td2-build-advice

[dense roost]

Is it better to frontload raw damage before crit

[flint arch]

-# Striker Chest technically has the highest damage potential of any Striker variation, but you need to maintain 150+ stacks, which is really difficult outside of Legendary/Raids

[flint arch]

Your first priority is 60% CHC

[dense roost]

is there anywhere I can see my total crit chance

It's prob obvious where it is I'm just stupid

[flint arch]

#td2-build-advice message
more detailed guidelines for crit

[cerulean smelt]

yes, inventory there's a tab Stats

[flint arch]

press E until you get to stats

[dense roost]

Okay gotcha

[hearty owl]

You should prioritize the main core damage over crit earlier on IMO

[dense roost]

Yeah I'm at 15% only gonna get that up, the pieces I have have are a lot of damagae and headshot damage so I'll keep farming

is there a specific exotic armor that I'd want or is the exotic gear slot to taste in this build

[hearty owl]

Cause judging on your rolls you aren’t going to reach a sufficient crit chance to damage ratio for it to be useful

[flint arch]

The Sacrifice + The Gift

[lost wren]

goated striker build

[flint arch]

It's the most difficult version of Striker to use, but has a higher damage potential than standard Striker

[hearty owl]

og Nego build

[civic meteor]

Mmm

Do I keep the backfire or do I try to blend my build with something new

[livid sorrel]

Backfire PGC Vigi

[flint arch]

scary

[dense roost]

Another striker question: If I'm using an Elmo's what's a good secondary, I know I'm gonna be maining the elmo's but is it wise to run another AR with a good talent or can I just use whatever I feel like using

[solar sable]

Police M4 or Carbine 7 w/Killer

[livid sorrel]

acs for stacking

[flint arch]

usually, people run ACS-12 with Fast Hands to stack Striker stacks, but honestly I don't find many opportunities to do that so I just run a SMG with Unwavering

or in my screenshot I just use a Lexington and an Ouroboros

[civic meteor]

What

[dense roost]

Oh I probably will I did not spend 7 hours farming this gun for no reason haha

[solar sable]

oh yeah sorry I didn't read that correctly 😂

[dense roost]

All g bro, I just wanna make sure my secondary isn't a totally dead slot bc, as a wise man once told me, switching to ur secondary is always faster than reloading 💯

[solar sable]

Follow that the folks recommended before: ACS-12 w/Brazen or SMG-9 w/Unwavering or Measured

Stacking strikers with ACS without Strikers Chest isn't advisable at all since you only have 100 stacks and can be built with pew pew-ing an enemy several times

[dense roost]

How can I get that perfect obliterate chest I keep hearing about

[solar sable]

that's why smg-9 is by far the best secondary for Strikers IMHO

[dense roost]

Probably gonna be what I go for next now that I have the bones of the build

[solar sable]

as any other, Targeted Loot

[flint arch]

idk why but i still don't have a usuable smg-9 lmao

too lazy to farm for it

i just use ouroboros and swap the elmos for a lex

[solar sable]

I crafted like 10 god rolls just to keep four

[flint arch]

[cloud oracle]

I was jus in a countdown and was doing 6-7m crits.. I want this build, does anyone know what it is? 😅🤣

[flint arch]

6-7m crits is not very specific

[cloud oracle]

6-7 million dmg 🧍🏻‍♂️ whilst using terrible armour since im leveling for expertise

[livid sorrel]

Probably the GE

[flint arch]

countdown has no GE

[livid sorrel]

Oh

[hazy steeple]

Countdown is a bit awkward to test builds with, because the buffs you get in there make it all wobbly.

[fair dragon]

Wobbly bobbly

[cloud oracle]

ahh, i originally thought it was an overcharge? build going insane but even with someone using overcharge in a raid i did, max i got was 2m number

[livid sorrel]

25% damage from the countermeasures, teammates using coyote's, etc...

[dense roost]

Would the Chameleon be good in a Striker build? I heard it’s bugged to be not so great rn but assuming it gets fixed, I love how that gun looks and wanna try it as well

[flint arch]

chameleon is meh

[hazy steeple]

timey wimey builds.

[flint arch]

it technically has a higher damage ceiling than st. elmos or police m4 or anything along those lines, but the buffs are inconsistent. they take a lot of shots to proc, the buffs disappear as soon as you swap, and don't last very long

not to mention, chameleon is NOT an AR

It uses AR ammunition, it's classified as an AR, but it has SMG range and accuracy

[cloud oracle]

ahh, i see.. i jus saw big orange numbers and my neurons activated 🤣 so i wanted the build

[solar sable]

what le fuh

[livid sorrel]

i mean, you can just send us what you have on

[cloud oracle]

using strikes atm w overdogs, in that clip

[flint arch]

standard striker is standard

[solar sable]

not even overdogs can hit such numbers without external buffs

Probably affected by Countdown Countermeasures and team buffs

[livid sorrel]

i see close range damage countermeasure and coyote buff

[flint arch]

50 different buffs from random stuff in countdown means you deal a lot more damage than usual

[dense roost]

I WILL use a striker build I am NOT unqiue I am EVERYTHING like yall

[cloud oracle]

yeah, i thought as much but to be seeing those big ass numbers even with max striker stacks.. i aint ever seen that

[flint arch]

just know it's not the norm

[cloud oracle]

ahhh, thatll be why then 😅

i didnt know countdown buffs make stuff inconsistent

i mustve jus gotten a goated run with those numbers lmao, ty guys

[flint arch]

only one guy in the sub-group is using coyote, i doubt it can jack up the numbers to 4x the amount lol

[solar sable]

oh yeah, lots of people run Coyote's/gearsets/talents that buff the team's dmg by unimaginable amounts

I'm still looking for the guys who made my TS build hit 6mil back then... they knew what they were doing

[winged timber]

holy dps

[flint arch]

i wonder how the hell can I run FI healer in countdown if everyone is running around

[cloud oracle]

i did see a lot of 6m too lmao,

[flint arch]

other than spamming healing chems all over the power plant

[winged timber]

i'm jealous

i'm still farming for overdogs but only just started since i came back

[junior lagoon]

i really need someone to explain me how does zealot worth 30 percent enemy damage increase

[cloud oracle]

my luck for exotics came from retaliations for bps lmao, my countdown luck for exotics is trash af

[keen plank]

Im using Gear Shift with tipping scales, what magazine would pair best for it? The large pouch or the rate of fire one?

[solar sable]

mag size

[winged timber]

whats retaliation?

[keen plank]

Nice. Thanks

[cerulean smelt]

a game mode where you piss off the factions enough they retaliate by taking a region of control points. you go in and try to reclaim them all

[smoky latch]

Usually yeah but doesn't it bother you that the first half the magazine has -5% WD with Perfectly Measured? Haven't seen any math with it yet

[winged timber]

weird i click on retaliation and my map is just empty

[solar sable]

Yeah I don't like Measured as a main

[cloud oracle]

you gotta build up the aggitation meters

[livid sorrel]

Bigger mag more TS stacks

[smoky latch]

TS chest piece gives you more stacks, you mean keep up stacks longer?

[winged timber]

by taking control points and such?

[smoky latch]

I'd have to see how that evens out. Not sure rn

[livid sorrel]

I meant more bullets get the max TS buff

[smoky latch]

Yea but then you'll have to make sure that you really keep firing (and hit NPCs) until the last bullet to get a benefit of the perfect talent (second half of the magazine part)

[cloud oracle]

yeah, any activity can knock it up but theres also a daily 100% aggitation project you can do for a garentee

[civic meteor]

How do you increase the expertise level?

[smoky latch]

Use/donate gear

I'd recommend to watch the 2025 guide about it by NothingButSkillz on YT, it's decent

[junior lagoon]

you increae expertise by increasing the number of items you are proficient with

you can make yourselft proficient with that item eitehr by using it or donating itself

once proficient you can increase expertise level of ecah item by another process upto the level of your expertise level

[teal wren]

hi which build have best dmg for pve/pvp ?

strikker/overdogs/equalizer ?

[livid sorrel]

yeah

[teal wren]

how much dmg per shoot ?

[flint arch]

all 3 at once for pve

[winged timber]

every how many retaliations did u get a exo?

[flint arch]

PVP is a whole different beast, you're better off going to #td2-pvp-discussions because the current meta is very disconnected from PVE

It's also rife with hackers (the game, not this server), and PVP below SHD 1000 is very dead

[delicate field]

I need a little help. I’m making my first build as I haven’t long started. I’m going with a 4 striker set and I see people mostly using Lexington. Is there any good replacements for that? As I wasn’t playing when that came out

[livid sorrel]

Lexington is just a Police M4 with slightly more damage, use that

[delicate field]

Okay, thank you!

[compact glen]

Just got Chameleon. Keep or scrap?

[livid sorrel]

Keep for the collection

[compact glen]

so scrap

[teal wren]

for pvp ?

[livid sorrel]

ask in #td2-pvp-discussions , pvp is very different when it comes to builds

[teal wren]

for strikker/overdogs/equalizer which weapon best ?

[flint arch]

police m4 with killer/measured

[subtle bluff]

The word Best is subjective....

[cerulean smelt]

now i need a macro 😹

[flint arch]

Should I use Setup or Courier for Hazpro Foam

[smoky latch]

Depends

I prefer Courier for higher difficulties or when playing with noobs

[cerulean smelt]

guess i should be glad you don't play with me 😹

[flint arch]

Well, I only pull out hazpro foam for hunters in countdown or something else

[smoky latch]

C'mon can't be bad lol

[cerulean smelt]

ask dien and local 😹

[flint arch]

Then again, the last part of Countdown has a bunch of Black Tusk alongside the Hunters

Good thing there's a Courier rolled with status effects in the countdown shop today

[smoky latch]

Setup then

[cerulean smelt]

they'll have toothless50ul95 ptsd

[smoky latch]

Floor 100 leggo hunters I prefer Courier again

[flint arch]

If it's like 1 single Hunter, but honestly if it's just 1 Hunter you don't really need Opportunistic I think?

[cerulean smelt]

you'd have to keep swapping to your Birdies if you go it for me 😹

[smoky latch]

Depends on your team 😂 I'd play safe

Especially heroic CD where literally anyhing is possible

[mint axle]

And when that damn immunity buff is active

[smoky latch]

That too

[flint arch]

Hotswapping

[smoky latch]

Works

[flint arch]

Thankfully I have a Setup with Hazpro too

[smoky latch]

Took me a good while to get one of those

Now I'm just focused on the PS chest with crits and GC 😛

[kindred plaza]

i got some stars and don't know which caches to open? what are the best caches?

[cerulean smelt]

if you're just starting out i'd say exotics as you'll need to break some down into components to use much later in the game eventually

[kindred plaza]

okay thanks

[cloud oracle]

In a strikers build, which offers more dps? Coyote's or Overdogs? or are they about the same and its jus preference?

[smoky latch]

In terms of damage without any specifics, Overdogs

[cerulean smelt]

overdogs is more consistent without worrying about range

[subtle bluff]

well it makes up quick

[cloud oracle]

ah okay, tyy

[winged timber]

whats the best way to get ouroboros smg?

[cerulean smelt]

run incursion

[smoky latch]

Paradise Lost incursion

[winged timber]

where on the map is that

[smoky latch]

That SMG can be part of event loot pools but that does not always happen and currently there is no such event in general

Top left in DC

"Meret Estate"

[winged timber]

is it a reward at the end?

[white spade]

hell iam new to the game i wanna be dps build is this a good build

[hearty gyro]

so im looking at the build spread sheet witch one is the best for master mode for tank builds the way its splits in to red blue yellow makes 0 sense to me i know yellow is skill red dps and blue defence people in game make it more complicated then it needs to be is there a current tank build i need for master mod will any of the blue builds wor?

[flint arch]

red striker

tank builds will do nothing for you, tanking in this game doesn't exist

if you want to play a support role you run FI healer or eclipse foam

[hearty gyro]

ya i did that i pop out of cover i die in a few bullets nothing ever focus my team i sems

[dense roost]

What's a good trait for SMGs? Probably smth like Killer right

[flint arch]

gonna need to start over, striker build guide

[flint arch]

Unwavering

You're only meant to use it in short bursts (unless you're maining the SMG)

[flint arch]

Learn how to position well and corner peek

Prioritize tall cover, you expose yourself way less

[hearty gyro]

maybe im just bad i try to do that asoon as things get line of site of me im dead they never focus my team mate only me asoon as they have line of site of me atleast on master mode others modes im fine and can just feed shots in to enemy's so im confused

[white spade]

do all need it just to get this armor ?

for a good stricker build?

[flint arch]

this is ideal but you can swap some things out if you don't have the exotics or stuff yet

for example, if you lack overdogs, you can use striker gloves and use salvo holster instead

do challenging countdown with unit alloys as targeted loot for the equalizer chest (and salvo holster)

[smoky latch]

You have a chance to get it from a boss or from the chest. The chance to get it from the chest is higher

[white spade]

yeah bet iam try to get those i do alr ready have the backpack the mask and kenne pads

[flint arch]

wait hang on

[white spade]

?

[flint arch]

@subtle bluff if I don't have overdogs and coyote and I don't have enough watch levels, is it better to use salvo or a ceska piece

[subtle bluff]

Ceska

[flint arch]

frick

[subtle bluff]

If on AR a normal UA is also good

[flint arch]

also you haven't even unlocked your watch yet

[subtle bluff]

Funny enough.. lol

[white spade]

yeah

[flint arch]

talk to the quartermaster at BoO

[willow sigil]

is the coyote with fenris no longer good?

[smoky latch]

Coyote's is still solid

[flint arch]

but fenris is no longer used nowadays (i think)

[smoky latch]

By now there are just better alternatives

[willow sigil]

cool, just making sure i wasnt looking at something too outdated

oic

[white spade]

i do have the watch

[willow sigil]

so i should be farming for overdogs then

[flint arch]

then why isn't it showing

yes

[winged timber]

how do some people have 2 stats tinkered?

[flint arch]

1 recalibrated stat, 1 optimized stat

recalibration is replacing a stat, you can only do this to one attribute on a single piece of gear

[smoky latch]

You can recalibrate one attribute/talent, you can optimize any attribute

[flint arch]

optimization is upgrading a stat, you can do this to all attributes

[white spade]

wait iam a lil confused now lol

[willow sigil]

is it still dmg out of cover and crit chance and crit damage for everything?

[flint arch]

this is what it should look like

[flint arch]

yes

#td2-build-advice message

[white spade]

oh it's because I did Prestige from level 40 and it made me start over again iam lvl 35 rn

[dense roost]

What does Salvo Holster do?

[flint arch]

fire rate attribute

[willow sigil]

will the chameleon be okay until i get an elmo?

[flint arch]

craft a police m4 with dttoc and killer/measured

[willow sigil]

i need to go see what i can do to get that bp

[smoky latch]

Nah don't craft. Farm

[flint arch]

i should stop talking sometimes

actually any AR that you can comfortably handle should be fine, just needs to be a high fire rate, DTTOC roll and killer/measured/something along those lines

[dense roost]

nah spit your shit twin

[winged timber]

do i do this?

[flint arch]

no

[willow sigil]

the chamel is 1035, what is elmos?

[flint arch]

if you get 30 expertise on all of your armor (which is REALLY expensive, like you need hundreds of exo components), you get a grand total of 1 blue core worth of armor

it's much better to put expertise on your weapons

[dense roost]

Anything for the min max ig lmao

This server has been great though haven't even been here for 24 hours and y'alls advice has helped so much with getting builds together

[winged timber]

ahh wait so i gotta loot stuff as junk and donate it?

[grand girder]

go to 12 because it costs no exo comps but only go beyond if you have a specific build that requires it, for example this full red backfire build with glass, the 1 passive blue core is quite nice (from all armor 30 expertise)

[willow sigil]

what do i do to farm credits for recalibrating?

[grand girder]

if you have scavenging points use those if not bountys

[smoky latch]

Bro, stop flexing.... 😭

[winged timber]

go to 12?

[grand girder]

the hours of grinding I dumped into this is definitely not a flex lol

[smoky latch]

I feel you...

[flint arch]

jesus christ

[grand girder]

yeah expertise 12 on anything requires 0 exo comps

just other materials you will acquire playing the game

[smoky latch]

I mainly meant due to the chest piece

[grand girder]

ahh unicorn yes

[smoky latch]

I cannot get it, for the life of me...

[flint arch]

oh my god i just noticed the red PS chest with GC

[willow sigil]

should i be using the police m4, or the pyromanic? i got dropped both during this run

[grand girder]

unicorns are my bread and butter

[smoky latch]

Hahahahhaahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahaaha

[flint arch]

give your account to me

[summer frost]

why x6 of the same piece? or am i missing something, not that advanced at the game

[smoky latch]

You miss something. It's just a meme, flexing

[summer frost]

fair enough 😄

[smoky latch]

There are several items that are considered "unicorns" because they are really fkn rare and hard to get

Certain attribute/core combinations

[flint arch]

the chest and backpack are particular pain points

[summer frost]

cause of perks right

[flint arch]

the talent

you need everything on the item to be correct before you can switch the core out

[grand girder]

kinda yeah, for the chest and backpack you need 3 rolls to be correct because you'll always need to change the CORE which will be armor, so for those two its hardest because its 2/12 odds for attributes and then 1/28 or whatever for the right talent, for the other 4 pieces its still a pain but only 2 attributes without a talent is alot easier to get

also the cost of materials for me making that 6pc build was around 42k habsburg materials

6k crafts for the chest and backpack and another like 2.6k for the other 4 pieces

[summer frost]

yikes

[grand girder]

yep complete waste of time but my tism spiked and wanted a perfect roll 6pc for memes

[smoky latch]

Guessing you also crafted the PS chest

[grand girder]

yup

did it solely for my full red* glass solo heroic countdown run, barely used it otherwise

[smoky latch]

Yeah I saw the video. Idk yet how I'd use it but I want it

Mostly for a Backfire build in the first place

[grand girder]

tbh just palisade in general helps with backfire alot, 20% aok with gunner is night and day difference

before I did glass I ran with a mask and it did the same thing

[smoky latch]

I'm also missing a good backpack. Only one I could roll the core to WD has Bloodsucker...

[grand girder]

a PS?

[smoky latch]

Yes

[grand girder]

yeah that'll be a tough piece to farm

best odds are hunting the vendors until a cheap palisade item appears then farm that til you get it or hate the game

[smoky latch]

I'm really just interested in the chest. But since I farm PS via TL I'll keep decent things along the way

Mask, gloves, holster, kneepads, np

[grand girder]

I got pretty lucky with the chest ngl, only took me like 350 crafts or something close to that

although the rolls were quite low I optimised it a bunch

[smoky latch]

I'm beyond that, just guessing tho

I stopped counting after I crafted roughly 2.5x the full PS fabric amount from inventory

[grand girder]

yeah it gets really draining after a while, but when you finally get it the feeling is unreal

[smoky latch]

Working on that 😛

[obtuse shoal]

I’m shd level 568 looking to build a nasty skill build. I have the ninja bike backpack so I can run three piece gear set and just alternate other pieces. Any advise would help

[smoky latch]

What type of skills?

[winged timber]

how hard is it to drop maxed mods in countdown jeez

[grand girder]

yes

[winged timber]

not a single maxed mod in a full run

[smoky latch]

Forget it. Don't chase them. Preserve your sanity

[grand girder]

yep really strong advice, its literally just RNG either blessing you or not

[winged timber]

i have bad mods tho so i wanna upgrade them

[smoky latch]

They occasionally drop preferably in heroic and legendary content, in my experience

[smoky latch]

Just keep playing the game on heroic in general

They can drop from any NPC in any activity, as well as random chestsfrom

[obtuse shoal]

Striker drone / hive

[ashen wasp]

after a strike build, wich one is good looking for?

[obtuse shoal]

I had ton of fun with the recent tech overdrive event

[smoky latch]

Yeah those events are fun for most ppl

[obtuse shoal]

Really missing that x5 xp 🥺

[smoky latch]

Take a look at these builds and read the info from iKia.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nOwUSECa-1iLhET-mW04u6oMBdIdMjFjB2Ie25ziEA/mobilebasic

[grand girder]

really wish they had a off button though, ruins my experience when I want to hunt a challenge but can't turn off a stupid buff

[smoky latch]

The next one will come. New season begins in April

[smoky latch]

I get it, hear it a lot

[smoky latch]

Do you play solo or in groups? Mostly

[willow sigil]

so something like this, i just roll the repair skills into crit damage?

[smoky latch]

Very nice drop

[willow sigil]

sucks because that i need to extract that 15% weapon damage

[smoky latch]

You'll get other items with it. Keep this one for sure

Having a solid build is the foundation of farming

[willow sigil]

if i am not adding it to my library or using it, i am deconstructing it correct? always deconstruct?

[smoky latch]

Yeah, selling items is not really worth it. Unless you urgently need money, then you can sell random stuff you don't need a few rounds

[livid sorrel]

Extract to library, donate to proficiency, then deconstruct

[willow sigil]

and its just countdown over and over again until i have everything i need correct?

oh donate to proficency? what is that and how does it work?

[smoky latch]

Switch things up a bit and do other activities before you burn out

But for a little while, until you have your build set I'd say, stick with CD

[willow sigil]

alright. im trying to get a elmos right now, and then ill go for the gloves after

[smoky latch]

GL!

[willow sigil]

exotics im not using do i just decon those also?

[livid sorrel]

You donate to proficiency until it reaches 10, then you can upgrade a weapon's dmg by 1%

[smoky latch]

Exotics should get deconstructed for the exotic components, yes

[livid sorrel]

Doesn't seem like much but it adds up

[willow sigil]

oh so if it says my prof for an item is already 10 there is no reason to donate?

[livid sorrel]

Yeah, proficiency also goes up when you use it

[smoky latch]

Yup

If you reached Proficiency level 10 with an item/brand set/gear set/skill you can upgrade it if you want. But wait with it for now

[willow sigil]

Thanks for the help

is there a way to lock something so that i dont extract it by accident? even in my stash it pulls it out in the library

[smoky latch]

You can favorite items. Do that immediately once you find a good item

[willow sigil]

I see, and then how to go about earning credits again, i was told earlier but i forgot.

[smoky latch]

Do activities that reward e-credits. If you urgently need credits just sell several inventories full of junk

Later on you'll be able to spend watch points on credits and that'll be your main way

[willow sigil]

am i supposed to be spending those points on credits instead of the shd currency?

[smoky latch]

SHD currency?

[willow sigil]

the shd calibration at the bottom of the scavaging tab on the watch

somewhere had told me to spend my points on those for whatever reason

[smoky latch]

It depends on how much you play and what activities you play (which rewards you earn/how many materials you get). The watch will give you access to a whole lot of materials and you can redeem them however you need it

You'll need certain materials a lot later on when upgrading your items, expertise wise

[willow sigil]

i see, ill look for activites that award e credits then, and save those points for whatever i need them for whenever i need it

[smoky latch]

Field Recon Data and various Tactical Assessments, SHD Calibration too

To get an idea of what's coming

AFAIK nothing was changed so it should be up-to-date

[hazy steeple]

Don't overload people too much, INF.

[smoky latch]

Tough 🫠

[junior lagoon]

Is this brand used in headshot builts?

[buoyant perch]

Well, technically you can if you want to with shotgun

[trim folio]

i vaugely recall a few years ago maybe there was talk of the specilization systems getting an overhaul did that ever happen?

[subtle bluff]

that was like last year they talked about it

[trim folio]

oh

[somber wolf]

someone gimme things to check in my build to see how am missing 30 chd xd

[hallow jungle]

upgraded my first build a little bit. removed coyotes mask. put a ceska mask for the crit chance. my crit damage went down 20% but i make more cuz of the 200 stack striker. so its about 1.2 to 1.4 mil crit dmg. anything you guys would advice? except optimizing it fully?

[somber wolf]

hm youre the same build and got 111 chd

[livid sorrel]

gun attachments, watch, mods, attributes

[hallow jungle]

mask is not optimized aswell as backpack. so it should be around 120% and i put chd mods on every thing i can put a mod on i think

and most of my shd points went into chd and chc

[tall jackal]

Striker Chest is only really good if you can maintain 150+ Stacks if you cannot you are better off using a high-end chest.

[hallow jungle]

so i guess the build i made is more for big bosses that got some huge health

[tall jackal]

Yes, you'll really see Chest Striker used on Raid Bosses (ex: buddy and lucy) and some other enemies like the Marauder with a lot of health/armor.

[hallow jungle]

so swap the striker chest with ceska and mask striker

[tall jackal]

That'll work.

You can also use other chests like the equalizer or a grupo if you have enough Crit Chance

[twilit geyser]

Is tempest pistol good?

[smoky latch]

It's decent, fun to play. Not really valid for all activities

[twilit geyser]

What kinda keeps it behind the top options

[subtle bluff]

Very Mid DPS

The weapon and the builds around aren't anything special.

[gray grotto]

Haven't played in a few years, nice to see my old build is somewhat strong still

[twilit geyser]

That’s unfortunate for such a gun that could have had high potential. Guess it’s still regulus or bust

[subtle bluff]

I mean it's pistol...

technically there are pistol that do more DPS than Tempest.

[snow fog]

Did i miss out on the Quickstep pistol entirely or is there some other way to obtain it?

[gray grotto]

there is a grp posting in the lfg channel that is doing the bounties on repeat farming Quickstep

[snow fog]

thank you, gonna check it out

[round zinc]

so harrier, how is it?

[subtle bluff]

with GE's it's hard to see if it's ok

[round zinc]

im not sure if i understand its mechanics, you get 80 stacks and you get a longer duration buff that stacks with the short term buff?

[dense roost]

Just pulled these from a DZ, is there any build or universe where they are useful

[subtle bluff]

can be used with BF so you don't slow down.

[elfin fractal]

hello, this is my current chc/chd, should i drop 10%chd for 5% chc? still farming for better gears

[dense roost]

Culmination of an evening's work, still got some stuff I wanna get like a better roll on my Equalizer and I wanna get Overdogs if I can

Getting closer to that 60% base crit

[smoky latch]

You can't compare those two pistols only because they're exotic. They both play totally different and require different builds

[cursive gull]

should i just run striker build for big alejandro or is there a better build i could use for it?

[smoky latch]

Tipping Scales I think does a little bit more damage, peak. Both work

But be prepared to run ouf of ammo sometimes - it's a hungry LMG

[cursive gull]

ive just been running crit for big alejandro and shield splinter on strikers for the most part

[dense roost]

What's Big Alejandro's perk? Haven't found much about it online whenever I look it up

[cursive gull]

1% damage increase per hit in cover capped at 100%

[smoky latch]

AR as secondary is good choice. But you can pick a better AR

[cursive gull]

what would you recommend

[smoky latch]

Police M4 / Carbine 7

Lexington ofc if you have one

[cursive gull]

isn't the DPS for those lower than the famas and F2000?

[flint arch]

i think people choose these simply because they are really accurate and have little to no recoil

[smoky latch]

Not exactly sure but they both have four mod slots (compared to three) and a reliable recoil/bloom that is top notch. You also can pick a better talent

[flint arch]

my aim is bad so i can only function with a lex/elmos/police m4 lol

[cursive gull]

i do have lexington but i was alternating between that and famas

[flint arch]

i tried using eagle bearer and i missed so many shots

[round zinc]

iirc lex does more dps than famas and f2k, and f2k also loses out on 1 mod slot so -5% chc

[smoky latch]

It kicks quite a bit without WH

[flint arch]

the gun pulls up and to the left and it's kinda difficult for me to control

[round zinc]

its because of the gun's atrocious spread so not a complete skill issue

[smoky latch]

I try to avoid mentioning the Lexington too often because not everyone has it/one cannot farm for it outside of special events. It is basically a modified Police M4 with only 5% increased base damage anyway

[flint arch]

the main part of its talent only procs on a headshot kill, and it's difficult to hit a headshot when it's unstable like that

[cursive gull]

i do have it at 51% and coyote, doesnt coyote bring you to the cap already?

[flint arch]

depends how far you're sitting from the enemy

[round zinc]

i mean yea but its just something to consider normally when youre not using coyote

[round zinc]

personally i find that playing it like a SMG works

[flint arch]

usually it's recommended to go to 55% with coyote's as it avoids overcapping on CHC too much while not losing out too much when at CQC

[smoky latch]

50% CHC is enough 90% of the time

[flint arch]

i guess

[smoky latch]

So you're good with that

[round zinc]

unless youre using chameleon i find that using orbit to fill the crit quota is more than enough and also opens up for you to use something else like overdog but thats just me ig

[flint arch]

i love when i accidentally give slightly wrong info and immediately slither into a hole

[smoky latch]

Some ppl like to add 5% to account for additional situations but then you might as well run a GS mask/piece

Keep in mind this is just total min-maxing 😄

[round zinc]

i wish they'd do QoL buffs like spread and recoil changes instead of just raw numbers
like can you imagine if eagle bearer can actually hit stuff at 15m and above, or chameleon being a real AR

[flint arch]

if chameleon acted more like an AR it would work pretty well all things considered

[dense roost]

Is the Ninjabike Bag worth going for to include in builds or would I better off targetting stuff that gives more specific benefits? It seems really useful but not sure if it's worth the time

[smoky latch]

I've known people who learned the EB recoil for DZ without Striker's or any WH. You can control it

[worn imp]

Is versatile and amp or is it total weapon damage??? This terminology consistency is dogshit

[flint arch]

you mention ninjabike bag in the presence of a ninjabike bag hater

[dense roost]

Yeah I'd been curious about ur name why don't u like it

[round zinc]

i dont have an issue with the recoil itself much, moreso the spread and how stacking the accuracy can be a real hassle

[smoky latch]

AMP. It even tells you it "amplifies"

[flint arch]

Ninjabike bag is a well-known noob trap

It sounds great on paper, but in actuality, you lose more from dropping the backpack talent than any stat increase you get from mix and matching brand/gear sets

[round zinc]

EB feels like youre shooting a vector over its range

[cursive gull]

i might just get the CTAR proficient then go back to lexington or famas

[dense roost]

I wanna get Overdogs or the Coyote Mask for my Striker build

[smoky latch]

EB isn't recommended anymore anyway. Not in PvE and not in the current PvP metas

[round zinc]

somewhere out there someone thinks that streamline is the strongest dps talent because of the big 42% btw

[dense roost]

Can Coyote Mask drop from other sources or is just that one mission

[smoky latch]

So many people fall for that

[flint arch]

Also, Ninjabike gives you 3 main attributes, which means if you, say, run a typical DPS build, you lose out on those minor attributes, so you have to sacrifice CHD for CHC because it's a crit starved piece

[smoky latch]

Generally targeted loot as well

[round zinc]

game just doesnt explain to you types of buffs at all its like destiny with all the vague terminology and buffs

[gray grotto]

ceska gloves over contractor seem to solve any chc problem

[smoky latch]

?

[grand girder]

8% for free will generally do that

[smoky latch]

What's the context?

[gray grotto]

if you are looking to get easy chc, farm a pair of ceska glvoes

14%chc

[grand girder]

chestplates better so you can run odogs

[smoky latch]

Yeah Ceska's brand bonus is 8% CHC

[gray grotto]

my slow brain was stuck on like 20 lines of old msgs here

[smoky latch]

Lol

[round zinc]

do people even use contractors on strikers now

[grand girder]

nah

[smoky latch]

Yeah generally a Ceska chest is recommended

[flint arch]

overdogs now

[grand girder]

8%dta vs 30% amp

[round zinc]

i remember when foxes and contractors were staple meta dps pieces

[flint arch]

foxes can still be seen sometimes

[grand girder]

pull up a chair unc

[gentle lichen]

like 2 years ago

striker just is used and now with overdog

[round zinc]

we love powercreep ig

[gray grotto]

does perf oblit and the rof of equalizer outweigh a ceska chest?

[gentle lichen]

yea

[smoky latch]

Yes

[grand girder]

only barely iirc

[smoky latch]

Not by much according to iKia, yes

[round zinc]

i think the QoL of being able to stack striker faster is worth it

does the same apply for HB or the buggy stacking screws it

[smoky latch]

Run HB with chest to make it kind of worth it

[gray grotto]

hb=honey badger?

[flint arch]

heartbreaker

[round zinc]

how does damage reduction stack in this game?multiplicatively?
only thing i now is that pfe caps at 80%

[gray grotto]

sry for the dumb question, I've been back for like 2 days after a few years off

[dense roost]

dude dw i've been asking nothing but questions with kinda obvious answers 😭

[smoky latch]

Not sure about DR

[gentle lichen]

probably since if it was additive stacking 80% pfe and 20%+ DR from defender drone which isn't hard would result in no damage taken

though not sure about other sources like aegis or provocator

[round zinc]

i also saw a video explaining harrier and the DR on it stacks multiplicatively with itself iirc
so if you get 40% DR from stack consumption then the next 40% DR from building stacks gives it a total of 64%

[smoky latch]

That backpack needs some re-work. I cannot reliably use it, maybe I'm dumb

[gentle lichen]

yea and expertising the defender drone increases the DR multiplicatively

[gentle lichen]

on heroic at least if you're not using a good amount of blue cores + DR you wouldn't get great use from it imo

[round zinc]

the bag on red builds is just a permanent 40% DR and a buildup of 40% weapon damage

[dense roost]

If I get one more pair of kneepads bro

[smoky latch]

I haven't used it much and therefore I might have missed how to "properly" use it but I'am already annoyed by the stack indicators

[gentle lichen]

that is if you stack it which for your armor is literally like 5 or 6 bullets to drain it so you have to refill your armor like 20-30 times and get it broken again just to get the full DR

[round zinc]

i think the stacking should be a tad faster, maybe 1 stack per 2 shots and there should be an indication of what buff it just gave you cuz you're not gonna remember it mid combat

[gentle lichen]

by that point just stack at white house and go play lmao

[smoky latch]

CoCo style lol

[round zinc]

shields should help it stack too but i havent tested

[gentle lichen]

uhhhhh im not sure if that stacked it for me
it prolly does

[round zinc]

i just dont see this replacing memento for a tank build, just a comfy flex dps bag

[smoky latch]

Nah, Memento's benefits are too good

[round zinc]

40% DR for the long buff is nothing to scoff at

[gentle lichen]

in reality the only difference between it and memento is the regen and skill eff
which i side with memento on that

[round zinc]

it could offset glass cannon but thats it
i dont think youd even want to use glass cannon on striker

[slim sorrel]

... IM SPEECHLESS

[smoky latch]

The brand name or what?

[gentle lichen]

how much does 40% DR add to your EHP?

[smoky latch]

Sure, Perfect Glass Cannon. Works great

[round zinc]

does the brand hurt though

[smoky latch]

Paired with The Gift (Perfect Vigilance)

It can hurt if you don't watch out, yes

[round zinc]

idk i think striker bag is just better tbh, not number wise but has more uptime incase you get shot at

[smoky latch]

Less ramp-up reliant, more instant damage is pretty good

[round zinc]

multiply your armor by 1.4 i think

i just swap memento for harrier on my solo dps build with no upgrade on the armor
second image is just a 5 blue build also with no expertise
891.6k x 1.4 ~ 1.248 mil so pretty decent if you think about it unless my understanding of ehp is wrong

theres also the fact that harrier stacks a lot faster than memento for encounter to encounter clears, and you dont always play a run n gun build to pick up the short buffs
so long term memento will win out but harrier is marginally less with less hassle

[gentle lichen]

i mean if you have 1000 armor and enemy does 100 bullet damage so enemy would take you out in 10 bullets
with harrier enemy will deal 60 damage and instead have to shoot you ~16 times

that's like a 60% increase in EHP if im not missing something

[silver coral]

anyone have a good build for striker pestilence build cause my chatter box wont do much damage because im still lvl 230 s shade level

[round zinc]

dont use pesti with striker, the damage buff from striker doesnt increase the tick dmg on pesti

[gentle lichen]

Use concentrated company

[silver coral]

what do you recommend for pesti then?

[solar sable]

^

[subtle bluff]

There's a really good guide in the build hub for it

[round zinc]

so 891.6k x 1.6 ~ 1.426 mil which actually puts it on par with 5 blues

[smoky latch]

Take a look at this guide, I suggest to read all the info as well

[silver coral]

ive been looking for it on this discord aswell where can i find it?

[gentle lichen]

And that's perma after triggering the reset if i read the talent correctly?

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages > Sheet 2 > Build Hub

[smoky latch]

Seen a video that shows the indicator disappears but apparently it's active? Not sure rn

[subtle bluff]

It's the same as others

[round zinc]

yes
after you consume the first 80 red stacks you get 40% DR until you hit 80 stacks again, and it loops forever unless you hit 80 blue stacks in which case it converts to 40% wd until the next stack cap

[round zinc]

they just dont show you which buff it grants the stacks is disappears and it starts again

[silver coral]

ok thanks

[gentle lichen]

What if you mix between both cause it real action that will happen

[smoky latch]

Yeah, annoying as hell

[gentle lichen]

It says whichever comes first which is kinda confusing

[lost wren]

even though you don't really use striker chest that much, if and when you do use it, you use it with salvo and overdogs no?

[smoky latch]

I do that in heroic Countdown

[round zinc]

ima try to record a video for comparison

[lost wren]

i'm just asking if that's the build people run with striker chest

[smoky latch]

Think it'a decent choice. @subtle bluff any better suggestions?

[subtle bluff]

hmm?

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message

[lost wren]

salvo and ovd

or even salvo + 1 pc unit

[subtle bluff]

uh?

Idk what context.

[lost wren]

striker chest setups

[subtle bluff]

Depends on the weapon.

[worn imp]

It also says "total weapon damage". This terminology is confusing

[subtle bluff]

SMG or LMG sure Salvo Overdogs, Ceska maybe more for AR's

[gentle lichen]

Faster stacking with salvo is definitely good since you need to get and upkeep 200 stacks

[smoky latch]

Confusing item descriptions is nothing new, but since it says AMP, it is one

[subtle bluff]

Trust there's a lot the dev did not right down correctly

[worn imp]

😹

[subtle bluff]

that other have tested to fine out it's AMP, TWD or actually WD

[gentle lichen]

I'm pretty sure overdogs still buffs your skills

[smoky latch]

It does, localdeck tested with some skill builds

Since he knows what he is talking about it's credible :p

[worn imp]

So it makes mortar do 30% more damage???

holy smokes if this is true....

[gentle lichen]

It is

[smoky latch]

Just search in this discord and you will find the builds he used and his results

[worn imp]

OMG

[gentle lichen]

Since mortar doesn't care about single target overdogs sounds good on it
You can target multiple hierarchies and whichever takes 30% more damage does

[round zinc]

ignoring the bonus armor from gunner plate, the DR is VERY noticeable imo

[worn imp]

😍

[lost wren]

w/o ceska i can get to 55 chc 105 chd on high end, and 120 chd with st elmo's

[gentle lichen]

If this isn't too much could you count each damage instance and compare the two? Just trying to verify what i said above

[round zinc]

this is 5 blues for comparison

[round zinc]

you mean as in turn on the damage received numbers?is it even possible?

[smoky latch]

And I thought I play with high sens 😄

[gentle lichen]

No lol like when you held the button you started taking damage at intervals just wanna count those and compare how many intervals to break armor before and after DR

[round zinc]

ahhhh

[dense roost]

What's a good talent for an ACS-12 in a striker build

[gentle lichen]

Brazen

If stack broker go fast hands

[round zinc]

my recording is borked and im too lazy to redo it, so i counted the ticks of the first clip
before i get the 40% DR it took 10 ticks to break my armor, after i get the DR and minus the bonus armor it was roughly 17 ticks for my armor to break
something also worth nothing is that it also adds extra DR when i take dmg in the 2nd instance but the bonus is smaller due to the second DR stack being applied on the remaining 60% damage

in truth i ran out of plates and idk where to replenish it in the white house

[gentle lichen]

Should walk in and out of the online area and where you spawn in the white house

[round zinc]

should be better this time, i tapped the self dmg button to count the instances easier this time around and no more bonus armor
before DR: ~8 ticks
after DR: ~12 ticks
also ignore the build i just tried to find anything without blue cores for the sake of minimum blue core comparison

TIL demo plate increases weapon handling by 30%

the takeaway here is that harrier gives you like ~4 blue cores worth of EHP without actually buidling for blues

oh my lord THAT BUILD HAD GLASS CANNON i cant stop fumbling

[smoky latch]

😄

All good

[spice niche]

Anyone here got a great backfire build?

[smoky latch]

I am really tempted to show a Backfire HazPro build now. But I get as soon as I do Mr. Chow comes from the shadows and chokes me

[hazy steeple]

Chow is just mad that I still refuse to make one of those and keep using my old HazPro setup.

[smoky latch]

😄

[smoky latch]

1s

[spice niche]

Mind if I take a look haha

[smoky latch]

Build in the pic below follows the same principlies with crits

Memento/HF
Backfire HazPro variant, due to request

[spice niche]

Without HazPro variant, is the bleed going to deal you a lot of damage?

[smoky latch]

You can trick that SMG. Shoot an enemy with a bullet, reload. Repeat that three times and the bleed stop before you reach 100 stacks with it

[spice niche]

So you're saying the trick is doing "shoot a single bullet, reload" 3 times in a row then the bleed backfire won't pop up?

[smoky latch]

Yeah. Give it a try in the shooting range

Or wait, you don't even have to hit NPCs

[spice niche]

Seems it does kinda work, but I dont get how often do I need to do this?

[worn imp]

New BiS mortar build!!! I know @hexed steppe will love it!! (We just found out that Overdogs boost skill damage)

[spice niche]

Also how does the thing reset? Cause I saw after some time the bleed will apply nevertheless

[smoky latch]

I'm not sure about the exact time window but it usually works for one encounter

[worn imp]

Tier 6 nonetheless!

[subtle bluff]

Eh.

[knotty flicker]

After 4 days of farming it finally happened

The build is coming together

[hexed steppe]

nice. ive built this with sacrifice, force, and china, dropped the grupo for ba. didnt run crit on it tho 🍻

[spice niche]

Also this HazPro Variant how does it have 100% resistance? Is it from the past modifiers?

[spice niche]

How about your Backfire Build Mr Chow 😁

[smoky latch]

It doesn't have any HazPro. I like it risky 😛

I just posted the HazPro version because you asked for it. Without any events or modifiers it's not efficient enough

[shy willow]

My logic is if you're using backfire you're going for complete overkill maximum dps

So hazpro is counter intuitive

In general use you're better off with other options

[spice niche]

Yh I meant the HazPro version, I've counted and I dont think it should give out 100%, I believe its from the previous modifiers where they'd give you like +50% bleed or haz pro

[spice niche]

So just counter the bleed from Armor on Kill?

[shy willow]

You don't need to counter it at all

The maximum it will bleed you for is only half your armour bar

Which you can mitigate by reloading a bunch to get bleed immunity

When you reach max stacks you won't bleed anymore either

[spice niche]

Alr I'll try it for now. Thanks for the info everyone

[ebon lantern]

Could you run the Hazpro varient on Hunters Fury or is it not worth it at that point?

[smoky latch]

Nah, not worth the grind

[buoyant perch]

Not worth the damage loss either

[hazy steeple]

Plus, Hunters Fury has limited attributes, so you are sacrificing stats for very little gain.

[ebon lantern]

Nah super fair, I like the gun a lot just the screen stuff it does gives me a headache. I don't even have an issue with the bleed lol. Just the screen change.

[hazy steeple]

100% fair.

[smoky latch]

At least you guys know it causes bleed. There are ppl who don't realize

Proof

[flint arch]

average redditor

[ebon lantern]

Honestly when i was looking up if you could turn off the screen change I saw an insane amount of post that had no idea, gave me a giggle

[ebon lantern]

But hey easy enough to build up a striker set for the gun to get that lol. Love the target loot farm in this game

[junior lagoon]

Increasing shield's expertise in a shield build worth it or not

It increase active regeneration

[smoky latch]

There are some more important skills to upgrade first I'd say but sure, shield expertise works

[junior lagoon]

I am impressed with bulwark shield build, holds pretty well in the pact master can tank almost anything so was wondering investing expertise could make it more viable

[hazy steeple]

AFAIK this is the most up to date one, missing Smart Cover but..... you aren't going to use a lot of Smart Cover.

as you can see, a lot of the Expertise Upgrades are not super worth it.

However: Skills are account-wide when you Upgrade them, so they're a good choice anyway.

[flint arch]

i love how a lot of them are kinda useless

EMP sticky giving 1% blast radius

when in most applications you're hurting for haste (or in a lesser capacity, duration)

[junior lagoon]

Looks like ignore if not damage

[smoky latch]

Not only

[hazy steeple]

Reviver Hive gives range, that will and has saved missions before.

Banshee's duration is a staple of my run+gun setup when I'm nuking spawns.

[minor edge]

Anyone else use Harmony over Capacitor with Refactor? I prefer not having to get stacks.

[hazy steeple]

A lot of them are nice little stat buffs, but they won't fix a broken build.

@minor edge I'd assume the reason behind Capacitor for that is that it gets a damage buff from the Skill Tiers you likely have when using Refractor.

[junior lagoon]

I use both

[hazy steeple]

So it's a sort of "in case your proxies do their proxy thing and get stuck on a doorway, again" thing.

[minor edge]

I might have to run both and do more examination

[junior lagoon]

Harmony is good against warfdogs and in distance capacitor is better otherwise

But you rely on turret and drone anyway. You are support

[minor edge]

Yeah

[hazy steeple]

I think the iKia build uses both, so if he says they're a good idea, there's probably something to it.

It's always a good idea to question though, it's how you learn!

[junior lagoon]

Especially if you choose tech support over combined arms you dont need to do anything

[minor edge]

It’s a new set to me. I took a bit of a break. I’m running perfect combined arms with waveform

It seemed to make sense. I tried memento first but it meant too much movement

[smoky latch]

Try this version. Consistent, good damage
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/18s3Gr5fZ3DvuA55xeBSyc_2SIusmfMULotivkSfs4xQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

[minor edge]

Lemme take a look

[smoky latch]

KM > Waveform

[minor edge]

I thought about that but I figured the chest talent was more group friendly

[smoky latch]

KM is good for solo and group, doesn't matter

[minor edge]

Hmm. Well I can certainly give it a try.

[smoky latch]

I'd recommend you try

[hazy steeple]

Btw, Memento is better for stuff like that than you'd think.
Since the slow buff only needs to get maxed once, then I think it's something like 5 actual minutes for it to run out again.

It's our hardest working Exotic for sure.

[minor edge]

It is 5

I have a memento build saved. I’m still poking for the one that feels right. Waveform was doing ok in Lego summit

I used to run a memento healing build back when warlords dropped. But this is pretty wild with refactor except those emp floors

Well now I have some ideas to poke at. Thanks

[smoky latch]

Hybrid w/ Memento e.g.
#td2-build-advice message

[slim sorrel]

real talk is the lexington not in div2 anymore??

have i been farming CD like a numpty or what

[hazy steeple]

@slim sorrel It's not part of the general loot pool, sorry Agent.
It'll return with a special event, people here will talk about it, for sure.

[slim sorrel]

🥹 im fine its ok..... ... ... .....

[warped crypt]

what's the meta for an smg build? I kinda want a tanky one for group play

[ebon lantern]

Probably a silly question but I'm guessing with the watch level being so high they're getting an additional 10% Hazard protection FROM the defensive section?

[smoky latch]

Yes the watch levels count into that

[ebon lantern]

Can we reset our watch or do we just roll with the decisions we've made

[smoky latch]

Resetting is not possible AFAIK

[ebon lantern]

EEK, roger that. Appreciate ya

[smoky latch]

No problem

[grand girder]

Well technically you can by using another character but seems like effort for no real reason

[solar sable]

tank and meta don't go together

[warped crypt]

what's a meta build for it?

[grand girder]

sounds like you're after a striker memento backfire build

2-3 blue cores on striker and you'll have a ton of survivability with the crusader shield and backfire will carry into decent dps

but with group play it'll be a bit weird with memento stacking

[solar sable]

Strikers w/Memento for solo and Strikers w/Overdogs for groups (?)
Both use Backfire*

dude I'm messing up so bad...

[warped crypt]

ok thank you

[slim sorrel]

here's dumb question, whats a good build that has a reasonable amount of armour / health and damage numbers that go brrr?

[solar sable]

Memento Strikers with Backfire; 3 blues & 4 reds maximum

[neon shoal]

guys i have a HF memento hunter killer build (2 blue core out of memento) with backfire but idk how to play this efficiently

[solar sable]

can also try Hunter's Fury instead of Striker’s

[subtle bluff]

Don't even need backfire..

Just Killer

[hazy steeple]

||Exactly, you do need Backfire.
thanks chow, for coming around.||

[subtle bluff]

UGH

💀

[solar sable]

Collect all 30 Memento's trophies from kills to reach max stacks, collect more trophies to gain Bonus Armor and refresh the 5 minute timer from max Memento Stacks

Everything else just does its work simultaneously

[solar sable]

that's so true, I tend to forget what weapon people prefer...

[neon shoal]

i think i shouldn't poke my head out too much while shooting 💀

[solar sable]

You can't backup that much with Backfire, it's an smg, i.e. a close range weapon

@slim sorrel what weapon type do yo prefer for the build I suggested?

[slim sorrel]

im loving the elmo right now and then big al .. im trying to f w the backfire as we speak.. trying to get the hang of the reload and not go too in ads and bosses faces...

[solar sable]

cn definitely use Elmo's instead but not Big Al

[slim sorrel]

AR/LMG pref then SMG because i eventually want to be good enough to get ouro... i play mainly solo and like doing things in groups but want to hold my own without crying i need a res cuz im too glass cannon

😩

@solar sable kinda what im messing with right now

[hexed steppe]

tank meta

[hexed steppe]

i can bet you are over on crit chance

[solar sable]

WAY over

[hexed steppe]

at least 2 mods

[flint arch]

is this like spamming decoy and artificer or something to constantly pull aggro

[hexed steppe]

i have a build for that

[slim sorrel]

probably am tbh.. i just started playing this again (bought the game back whenever it released and then never touched it till like 2 days ago) so im gona ask a ton of qs

[solar sable]

Mantis best tank weapon

[flint arch]

wait why overdogs

[slim sorrel]

should i drop some CHC mods for CHD?

[torpid mica]

I’m still getting to grips with builds, but got this as my heartbreaker, struggling to find the Kingbreaker. Anyways I can improve it?

[hexed steppe]

yes

[hexed steppe]

affects explosions

all roads lead to overdogs

[flint arch]

it's always explosions, and then we're back to goddamned MORTARS

[hexed steppe]

😎

you went back to it this time

[flint arch]

shush

[solar sable]

all roads lead to Rometars

[flint arch]

kingbreaker kinda sucks, any long rail AR with a high fire rate + normal flatline will work better

[hexed steppe]

actually im more likely to use btsu with it. its just saved like this on this agent

[hexed steppe]

this is an old image from a slightly different version, but the oc threat is the same if i use btsu

[slim sorrel]

dang i removed the only 2 CHC and still capped at 60.. build is cooked but CHD is 121.5 now..

[hexed steppe]

keep going

[slim sorrel]

as spongebob would say.. im learning....

[hexed steppe]

you have chance rolls on the gear

[slim sorrel]

yee...

when i stick on my elmo chc is 44.4

[solar sable]

that's because Backfire gives tons of CHC

from both attribute and mods

[slim sorrel]

all it needs is a 100 round mag.. and ill be a happy guy

[solar sable]

you can get it to... 70? with 3pc IA

[flint arch]

i am so confused by this description

[hexed steppe]

so so the new blackdogs kneepads... is it a visual bug or a working talent swap?

[solar sable]

🐛

[flint arch]

it works

[solar sable]

not just visual, they work as Overdogs lmao

[flint arch]

Underdogs

[hazy steeple]

d-listers.
ooh perfect.

[hexed steppe]

[flint arch]

Overlisters

[hexed steppe]

i wonder if i should head into leg with it

[hazy steeple]

Just don't call them the depression kneepads.

[gentle lichen]

i was gonna ask how swapping it to a knee slot would change some builds

[hazy steeple]

"blackdog".

[gentle lichen]

shameless plug to the black dog by samurai

[flint arch]

At least they didn't screw it up badly enough to accidentally have it appear on a named piece of gear

[solar sable]

what gearset is this

[hazy steeple]

We almost got Forge Dogs, and that is a real shame.

[flint arch]

30% and 30% amp on lowest ranking enemy would be almost early HB levels of absurd

[flint arch]

caviler or whatever i cannot spell it and idc lol

[hazy steeple]

horsey is fine.

[solar sable]

oh Cavalier

ew 😆

[gentle lichen]

which part in particular

[hazy steeple]

wait, thats cavalry.
cavaliers are the ones with fancy hats.

[flint arch]

the entire thing

[gentle lichen]

well in combat you charge up a meter that after being filled up shares 50% skill damage resistance and you amount of hazpro to your team
bag doubles the charge speed so it would activate in 5 seconds rather than 10 and vest increases the charge cap to 70% of skill damage resistance

[flint arch]

skill damage reduction

[gentle lichen]

tldr useless in pve and in pvp is the best support gearset

[flint arch]

i see

the way this description was written feels... off

[glad raven]

lol 😂

[hexed steppe]

im surprised ive never been kicked while using that . been kicked for headhunter before, but never troll mode

-# ill see myself out 🛌

[grand girder]

why airaldi gloves?

bro dun deleted it

I'm just curious, are you using it for a sniper in the second slot?

[jolly bramble]

How's Hard Wired for skill builds?

I wanted to do one skill build and a healer build.

[flint arch]

kinda bad

there is one single application for it that I know of, and it's for quickly EMPing all of the drones from Razorback in the DH raid

[jolly bramble]

Ah.

I'll work on the FI healer build.

I wanna get a Birdie's Quick Fix but it's a pain in the ass.

[flint arch]

Birdie's Quick Fix is only useful for when your team is really bad and keeps dying. If you're going to use it, it's better to just hotswap to it when needed

The Setup rerolled to a yellow core is more useful

Bring a Scorpio and Lefty + Survivalist spec and you can both heal and provide strong buffs for your team

Here's the build document for more info

[jolly bramble]

Gotcha.

I have BTSU datagloves, only painful thing is getting the Setup.

[trim folio]

thinking of switching to an explosives heavy build again when i get the gear are there any new options that come out in the last couple of years ?

[boreal tulip]

Any tips on how to play with flame thrower exuro

[buoyant kraken]

Which would be better? This screenshot or

Vile head
Sacrifice Chest
OD holster/kneepad/backpack/gloves with status effects on?

and which 2 skills do I use? hive and chem launcher?

[livid sorrel]

Status effects doesn't affect pestilence

[buoyant kraken]

So this would do the highest pestilence damage?

[gentle lichen]

yes

[livid sorrel]

Yeah

[buoyant kraken]

should I aim for 60% chc first then chd since im getting it from coco set?

cause im currently running 50%

[livid sorrel]

As long as you have a good balance of chc and chd

[buoyant kraken]

and 1 more thing, im not 100% sure how coco works. If I shoot an enemy once, and 3 other teammates shoots and kills it, I get x3 coco stacks than me firing him alone?

[livid sorrel]

Yeah

[woeful zodiac]

What build would Leon Kennedy use?🧐🤔

[sweet moon]

The tightest shirt he can find and an m1911

[hushed forge]

when I use materials to optimize weapon can I do it multiple times?

like it shows from 10 to 11% now but can i do it after to 12%

[gentle lichen]

Yes

[dapper glacier]

are the imperial dinasty good for a skill build?

[woeful zodiac]

Hmmmmm what about RE9 Leon?

I'm pretty sure he would use the "Requiem"

[tender whale]

Build recommendations for solo heroic retaliations?

[gentle lichen]

striker memento is good and comfortable

[tender whale]

In my personal opinion no u don't really wanna be that close to enemy's

Maybe u could do something with eclipse protocol but even then vile mask would be better off

[trim folio]

am looking to do an explosive build (seeker cluster focused) how does one go about that these days?

[gentle lichen]

hardwired is your friend

use it with bag to make the cooldown as low as 5 seconds

but honestly a really good explosive build in general is a mortar

[trim folio]

i tried the morter turret build but i sucked...

[toxic quarry]

hello everyone, tryna get more active within the div 2 community, but going to the topic, what's the best build i can make using the seeker mine? i do have one but i feel it's kinda outdated since i made it in like 2023

[inner sand]

tipping scales or strikers for LMG build?

[burnt bone]

Both good

Tipping scales is a bit more annoying to maintain stacks

[trim folio]

whats marksman rifle builds been like lately still high damage?

[patent fossil]

Yeah with hotshot and determined existing they're a very lazy easy way to power through most content

[buoyant kraken]

Fun* and fast* way

[smoky sigil]

Any tips on boosting this build a little further?

I would love to get it to the point where I can use the Mod rifle instead of 1886 and take determined off

[buoyant kraken]

Well if you want to use those weapons. Then i'd recommend

Hotshot x4 pieces (not needed 4th but extra armor and never having to reload is fun)

Vigilance backpack + chainkiller chest. All headshot mods. I run the white death. No need for scope and the 1886 if I have enemies close to me.

I still one shot most adds even on legendary and most of my build doesn't even have max stats.

I personally don't like overdogs. But you can run x3 hotshot/overdogs/chainkiller/vigilance backpaxk

[smoky sigil]

Would it make more sense to swap overdogs for another piece of breaking point to gain that 30% headshot (3pc)?

Rather than 30% damage increase

[buoyant kraken]

Im not sure how the calculations go for that sorry. You can ask chow

[tender whale]

Pretty sure the hardwired one is still the best for that

[tender whale]

If u have good mods and get a good roll u can get 30percent headshot with one piece of Habsburg guard Wich would give you two free slots to play around with

[delicate field]

What assault rifle do I use if I can’t get Lexington for my striker build?

[tender whale]

Do u have elmos engine

[delicate field]

I do yeah

[tender whale]

Use that if ur not using an exotic for ur secondary

[delicate field]

Thank you

[hushed forge]

how do I grind this item fastest? get a blueprint somehow or countdown with the gearset icon?

[tender whale]

Countdown are u looking for that exact roll or just the chest ?

[hushed forge]

Im looking for a red headshot roll

[tender whale]

If your making a sniper build chainkiller is your best bet but if u want that gear set countdown your best bet on heroic your best rolled drops will come from the extract hunters

[hushed forge]

what makes it better than zofia chest with normal headhunter

I actually have couple chainkillers maybe i just try it

[burnt bone]

Perfect HH gives more damage

[tender whale]

This exactly plus the 5percent damage is nice

[onyx sage]

the top end damage is worse than with habsburg but it ramps faster

most of the time, that's what people will realistically need, rather than more damage

[hexed steppe]

Hardwire is good for for cluster seeker spamming. Pair with a skill you can deploy/pickup to proc its talent. Hive/turrets/shields work well for this. Hive and btsu pair well. Overdogs also quite viable for boosting the explosive damage

[left zenith]

Question... how can i increase expertise and Grade level to upgrade weapon and gear?
right now im maxed out at level 3 only

[hexed steppe]

Domate items that are marked as junk at expertise bench

[hexed steppe]

To raise proficiency:

Named items/weapon are 20 donations for each to be fully proficient.
Gear and brand sets are 100 donations to proficient each set. Named gear and brand dont count towards brand.
Weapons donations are going to be the biggest category, so start with them.
Crafting 20 of each improvised will give you a quick 60 increments in whatever level youre currently on.

Using items also drives up level. Use exotics as opposed to donations because you need the exotic components for high level upgrades down the road.

Using skills is the best way to level them.

You can donate excess materials to individual items, but be mindfull of the tooltips. Its very easy to donate all materials, and the game wile take literally everything

With the event those totals are lower, is it 2x or 5x proficiency event rn?

[small orchid]

Guys any one have build for master Difficulty ? I want play solo

[small orchid]

Is this wrong channel i write in it ?

[subtle bluff]

No, you're in the right channel.

[subtle bluff]

The same build that you can solo heroics without having to stop to use any repair kits nor take long to do.

[small orchid]

Thx

[true oak]

hi guys is this build still good or there is a new better version ?

[raw forge]

is the craftable police m4 replica different from a regular police m4?

goes for any of the craftable weapons tbh, does replica mean simply that they are crafted or that they are worse tha base drops in some way?

[true oak]

k thx guys

[left zenith]

Thank you for your tips,
i have reached full poficient level on the big alejango lmg for example,
but the upgrade limit is only up to level 3 right now, im wondering how to increase the limit? since its up to level 30?

[arctic rock]

elucidate us?

[burnt bone]

Crafted weapons are more likely to have lower stats

[true oak]

if i used elmos engine am i gonna lose that mush dps ?

[tender whale]

You will probably gain some because of all the shock stuns you can get on enemy's

[jaunty swan]

Hi, can someone please explain, am I able to calibrate a gear piece more than once?

[livid sorrel]

You lose burst damage(your ability to kill one target in one mag) in exchange for sustain damage(your damage over an entire fight, taking into account mag size and reload speed)

[woeful zodiac]

What type of build would Re9uiem Leon use?

[faint vessel]

it's good for DPS guys ? i use dark winter

[worn imp]

local do you remember chows tech tank setup? do you want 6 skill tiers for shield on it?

[burnt bone]

Uhh it’s not really loading for me so I actually can’t tell if he shows build or not

[hearty orbit]

iirc chows TT was 2 red cores 3 blue, memento and technician spec
you get the max shield (shield scales off blue cores and skill tiers) and a 2 skill tier artificer hive

[worn imp]

he doesnt i looked. but i think this is the setup?

[burnt bone]

Uhhh looks about right

[junior lagoon]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1AxtLZi8SbziT3N7F6P8VM5J2h8yp4rLAFaSBIJA8Y4I/edit

check here , you wont like the damage though

[hexed steppe]

Ok so when you look at the dial with the big 3 in it, that represents your proficient level which is your current limit. Youll see a smaller set of numbers below (example 10/190). This represents actual proficiency levels on your items. 10 proficiency levels per item. The more items you make proficiend the higher that ( example 10/190) ticks up. Once you exceed that 190 in my example you tick up to the next expertise level (4 in your case).
Can you show a screenshot of your current expertise dial?

[burnt bone]

Will my shield be tech tanky enough if I just have the 3 levels from memento + technician

And the hive

[hexed steppe]

Probably not. It would be sacrificing damage and I think the idea is utilizing mostly free skilltiers. I'm not 💯 tho

[burnt bone]

I wanna use my full red heartbreaker :3

[junior lagoon]

Blue and yellow counts for shield

[burnt bone]

Yes that’s what I said

[junior lagoon]

you said 3 from memento

[hexed steppe]

The artificer is gonna do repairs every 10 seconds and memento scales both shield health and the artificer repairs. Probably fine with the 3 skilltiers

[hexed steppe]

2 from memento, 1 from tech

[burnt bone]

3 levels from (memento + technician)

[junior lagoon]

You can't tank everybody. Even with 6 tech tanks are nkt good at tanking or damaging imho. For shield i would rather use a foundry bulwark build

[hexed steppe]

Thankfully this is a group chat. Foundy is a downgrade unless you plan on just crawling through the mission

Tech tank is a solid approach without totally killing your damage potential

[outer agate]

best smg for hunters fury with tinkerers?

[junior lagoon]

there are different foundry builds. heartbreaker is not daling more damage than foundry, mostly struggling to keep stacks imho

[burnt bone]

Wdym, HB is doing more than foundry simply through its gearset assault rifle bonuses

[junior lagoon]

not if you put equazlier chest piece to your foundry build

[hexed steppe]

The only concession with hb tech tank is memento, which still gives 45% weapon damage on its own.

Like wdym 🤣

Bad take, js

[junior lagoon]

whatever. heartbreaker tech tank can't tank and damage is mediocre, i would rather go with bluecore striker

[hexed steppe]

You're misinterpreting the build. It isnt about sitting there face tanking everything you run into.
Its about having solid 6 red cores damage and utilizing talents and free skilltiers for a a strong shield that doesnt break in 2 shoots

Can do the same thing with pretty much any dps

[grave igloo]

is there a website where people posts builds? I'm tired of watching someone talk about how awesome this or that build is, then only show a small screenshot of the build. I'd rather just read the info.

[fiery gust]

Check the pinned spreadsheet in this channel. It has several builds in it.

[outer agate]

best smg for hunters fury with tinkerers?

[smoky latch]

Buildstation.app

Do you want build recommendations?

[grave igloo]

@fiery gust @smoky latch thank you

[grave igloo]

trying to find a good solo tank build that I can take into in raids sometimes

[smoky latch]

You only want a tank in the IH raid, in one particular area. Otherwise you want a DPS build or a build tailored to certain tasks

[buoyant perch]

2-3 areas

[grave igloo]

ok fair enough. i havent touch division 2 in years and trying to catch up

[smoky latch]

Okay right, control room, Morozova and maybe sth else I forgot. You're right

[burnt bone]

Yeah you should SHOULDT **SHOULDN’T really go to YouTube for builds haha

[void oracle]

Could anyone help me build a dps build like really good for anything

[void oracle]

youtube just feels outdated

[patent fossil]

*shouldn't

[burnt bone]

Everything is on le spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[buoyant perch]

Diag and occasionally Fieser if the team can't do oneshot

[void oracle]

id rather go to the guy who is lvl 20k+ or smth

[burnt bone]

Oopies

[solar sable]

shd level means nothing btw

[void oracle]

means they play this game wayy too much

[solar sable]

not necessarily

[burnt bone]

Have you looked at the lvl 40 starter guide - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[smoky latch]

Bookmark
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nOwUSECa-1iLhET-mW04u6oMBdIdMjFjB2Ie25ziEA/edit?usp=drivesdk

[void oracle]

hmm

[grave igloo]

Im curretnly messing around a foundry build using a shield. trying to find overdogs and the chameleon to add to the build

[void oracle]

i played a little and just using hunters fury for some close up dmg its just crit chance and crit dmg

[fiery gust]

You can run whatever you want in the game as long as you enjoy it. Never let anyone say otherwise. However, if you want to do specific content like raids, the Incursion, etc., 99.99% of people are going to ask you to change your build to something more oriented to DPS. Most likely Striker as it's easy to use.

[dapper glacier]

would scorpio shotgun works for this build?

or sweet dream?

I'm talking about the obliterate striker

[smoky latch]

Not really

[burnt bone]

Usually highish fire rate weapons

[grave igloo]

good to go. time for more farming. rng for overdogs hates me. been trying for a couple days on lvl4 to get the bp and nothing.

[void oracle]

i just use hunters fury with my scorpio

[solar sable]

Look, SHD level means nothing. It doesn't mean someone dedicates a lot of time 10/10 cases. We sometimes get XP events ranging from 3xXP and 5xXP, they both are capped at 1000 levels.
Now, why is it that you SHOULDN'T always take advice from players who are SHD (e.g) 30k? Because there are exploits that help people get unimaginable amounts of XP, so they leave macros doing the work while their PC/console is up and running.

[burnt bone]

Which blueprint

[void oracle]

mm ok

[burnt bone]

@grave igloo if you’re trying to get overdogs from control points you’ll never get it. It drops from completing Hyena retaliations

[grave igloo]

I know

rng for this game has never liked me.

[solar sable]

Also, searching YouTube for builds is just... sad. It is filled with clickbait and held back builds. This means that some of them need to be used under very precise situations and, 11/10 cases, when a Global Event is ongoing. These GEs make every build work differently depending on which one is live at that moment. There's also Overdrive Events (that a lot of us hate for the simplest reason, they can't be turned off) that boost lots of stats massively.
This also opens doors to YouTubers to spam trash builds because these events are carrying their "builds".

[cerulean smelt]

and they don't explain that. it's just BE OP or BE IMMORTAL! they show their builds and gameplay with the build but don't mention those overdives or global events

[solar sable]

that ☝️

[void oracle]

yeah i dont i used chatgpt 💀 i was barely starting out but now I do 2-3m crits upclose

[grave igloo]

I noticed that 🤬

[solar sable]

Let the AI slop be slop and the bubble to eventually burst 💌

[solar sable]

That's the ongoing Global Event: Assault
Close range combat amplifies your dmg

There's also a Tech Overdrive event, like goddammit... WHY?!

[cerulean smelt]

Assault increases your damage by 200%

[solar sable]

it's insane

[cerulean smelt]

Tuesday we go back to Ambush where you stand still your damage goes to 200%, last week of march back to assault for close range 200% again

[solar sable]

I was hitting 6mil headshots with INF's HE Strega build 😭

[cerulean smelt]

3 million ticks on pestilience for 3 lengmos here 😹

[solar sable]

5mil Ticks with CoCo

it's hilarious and frustrating 🫠

[cerulean smelt]

capitol? i was clearing all the spawns and had to wait some odd 3-7 seconds of no spawning

[cerulean smelt]

<-solos so coco means jack damage wise for me

[solar sable]

I wanna try playing some solo leg today... and I'm not sure if I should

[cerulean smelt]

least you can turn off assault if you're afraid that'd make it easier for you

[solar sable]

overdrive will make it easier 😔

[hexed steppe]

Wait what!? I thought godmode activated at 10k

[solar sable]

I don't hate GEs, I love them since you can turn em off

[violet ferry]

Are there any good websites to help with builds?

[solar sable]

but sir, you are very knowledgeable and an exception 👀

[void oracle]

oh

[solar sable]

buildstation.app

[open pulsar]

Should I change much or just level now ? (Going for striker obviously)

[void oracle]

ill try this when i get home

[gloomy spruce]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing

[void oracle]

i just love seeing big number

[solar sable]

quit striker chest and swap it on the holster, use Ceska w/Obliterate and Coyote's for now

[onyx sage]

just farm for equalizer tbh

[open pulsar]

I just picked the best parts I got off countdown

[grave igloo]

what s the best way to farm for it?

[onyx sage]

farm the brand and you get 2 good named items you can reuse over and over

[hexed steppe]

Shd is a lie tho. Raiders for example can pull of some crazy stuff and will have a really deep knowledge, but not have the shd level one expects for the amount of time spent because something like raid is low xp

[subtle bluff]

Why are we doing Ceska obli?

[onyx sage]

it's not a bad recommendation, but equalizer is just easier to farm now

[solar sable]

my brain forgets about Equalizer bruh plus they are low SHD, they need the CHC

[onyx sage]

but it's harder to farm, they can farm a ceska offpiece imo

it's not likely they'll have overdogs either so equalizer + ceska is the play

[gloomy spruce]

There is also the fact that some players farm gear and blueprints over SHD

[solar sable]

ceska mask I assume

[void oracle]

can I dm you so I can show/tell u my whole build?

[onyx sage]

any slot for ceska

[cerulean smelt]

just post the picture here honestly

[onyx sage]

besides bp and chest ofc