td2-build-advice

[flint arch]

Heartbreak is just botched Strikers

[lone perch]

with 165 points can u max all sharpshooter perks?

[flint arch]

yes

[lone perch]

how come u start with max points right away

[flint arch]

you bought ultimate edition

[junior lagoon]

not on all

[flint arch]

y1 pass gives you max points for some of the specializations

[lone perch]

oki

[junior lagoon]

the fire one you have to grind

[storm moon]

what Specializations ppls gona with Strikers ?

[flint arch]

gunner is most popular

[storm moon]

most builds dont show Specialization ? or im blind

[flint arch]

this is your specialization weapon, it corresponds to your specialization

[storm moon]

oh yea

[lone perch]

I want with these

[flint arch]

why not use all of your points

[lone perch]

yea I did now

[flint arch]

the only notable thing is with the gun damage bonuses, just invest in rifle, marksman and pistol

[lone perch]

damn u get these for free?

[flint arch]

ammo for these is scarce, and you lose the gun if you switch specialization

[lone perch]

oki

[solar sable]

put 15 points to shotguns and carry one as backup

[lone perch]

oki

[flint arch]

oh shotgun?

[lone perch]

need to get good rifle now 😄

[flint arch]

didn't know that, noted

[fleet lynx]

Best talents for ar’s?

[solar sable]

if you're using HH then it's best to use a shotty to one-shot named enemies or any tanky mf

[flint arch]

ah

I recall hearing about headshotting with shotguns before

[solar sable]

Killer for solo, Measured for group
can use Measured if you don't like Killer btw

[lone perch]

what rifle should I be looking for?

[solar sable]

it's because HH stacks apply individually for every pellet

[flint arch]

that sounds busted

[solar sable]

1886 best boy

[lone perch]

hard to get?

[edgy bone]

speaking of pellets shotguns stack striker faster right?

[solar sable]

no

[storm moon]

i really like this wep need get better version

[solar sable]

yes, but don't use it to stack Strikers if you don't have 200 Strikers stacks from its chest piece

[lone perch]

can u get scope on it?

[solar sable]

nope

[lone perch]

🙈

[solar sable]

scope makes you shoot slower btw

[lone perch]

oh

any 1886 build I can follow?

[lone perch]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1GT5z3qub9qZQ7Saih-ID304JsrYEBNR1jvd4V0hLZA0/edit

what about these?

[hexed steppe]

Fox knee, overdogs gloves , chain killer chest, breaking point mask/holster, gift or reg providence bag with vigilance

[solar sable]

it's the same setup just without Overdogs

[lone perch]

oki

[smoky latch]

The 2pcs Zwiadowka does a little more DMG IIRC

[hexed steppe]

Well, it has zwai too.

[solar sable]

hazwaii my beloved

[lone perch]

what type of drone is these

[smoky latch]

Where does "hazwaii" come from? 😄

[hexed steppe]

I think the difference is first shot to gift/ top end to zwai

[solar sable]

Spotter from Sharpshooter spec

[smoky latch]

Scanner drone, Sharpshooter skill

[lone perch]

oh okey

[hexed steppe]

A bad one. Dont use. It just pulses

[lone perch]

oki

[solar sable]

Rivens once typed Zwai instead of Zwia so I made a bad joke from it

[smoky latch]

Ahhhh

[storm moon]

should i follow this striker build ?

[onyx sage]

drei, eins

[smoky latch]

At least you don't call it "zoo" like ppl on Reddit and YT 😄

[solar sable]

hell yes

[storm moon]

k

[storm moon]

gunner ?

[lone perch]

how did u get these skills

I can't find it?

[patent fossil]

Warlords+Jupiter manhunt

[smoky latch]

You need to unlock them by finishing two missions, forgot which ones

[patent fossil]

Left is decoy, from the tombs mission in warlords of new York dlc. The other is emp sticky, you have to first get one of the sticky bombs from NY then do the Jupiter manhunt to get the emp variant

[hushed forge]

Theres also the one you get by finishing brooklyn

[flint arch]

that's smart cover

[hushed forge]

Yeah

[flint arch]

it's meh

[hushed forge]

Im trying to get it for my big al build

[smoky latch]

Makes sense for stationary builds but it's not mandatory

Also you will need to find its mods first to make it better

[hexed steppe]

Do you have to finish Brooklyn tho? I have smart cover and maybe did 2 missions and still have black areas i never visited

[flint arch]

you don't

[solar sable]

yes bc mortar lore is hidden in it

[flint arch]

I think the first or second time you talk to Theo, he gives you the skill

[hexed steppe]

It needs to be a napalm turret if im gonna be lured in by a mortar

[lone perch]

does these expire?

[solar sable]

no

wait you're not lvl40 yet

[lone perch]

no Im playing for 2 days

[slim sorrel]

If anyone has houndsman bounty pls help me get the quickstep gun thank you - IGN: Rohun_

[flint arch]

#lfg-pc

[lone perch]

does mounted gun means gun number 4 on gunner

[signal dock]

Returning player here, left the game pretty much a season after the summit dropped. Not sure if this is the right channel to ask this but any good builds or recommendations for incursion?

[lone perch]

or just gun u find in missions?

[slim sorrel]

Missions / control points

[lone perch]

ty

[signal frigate]

Does this build look build or nah not at all

[plush cape]

Check the pins

[lone perch]

does bank headquarters have mounted guns?

[flint arch]

get rid of the blue cores on striker, use coyote or overdogs (latter is preferred)

Lexington should use either Killer or Measured

[signal frigate]

Yeah i assumed so

[flint arch]

oh wait it's a YouTube video

yeah don't trust YT

a lot of clickbait

there are a few channels that offer good advice but they're few and far between

[smoky latch]

Is this from a solo legendary video?

[signal frigate]

Yeah that type of shit i always look it i never made a youtube build video I always ask

[smoky latch]

You can make it work but most importantly to note, players need experience with legendary difficulty. There are builds that can be more efficient for solo legendary. If you wanna get some tips on solo leggo check out "ToastyXGod" on YT

[flint arch]

we need someone on div 2 yt that has clickbait thumbnails but they just relay what's on the spreadsheet

[smoky latch]

Use AI. Write a script, set up the mirrors and show random footage 😂

[flint arch]

"DESTROYS LEGENDARY" (shows normal chest striker)

[solar sable]

Lvl40 Starters Guide

[solar sable]

Patrick Wolf, the master of clickbait

[smoky latch]

Oxpecker w/ Visionaro! OP legendary build

[flint arch]

the AI generated profile picture says it all really

[smoky latch]

Speaking of

[flint arch]

goddammit

[civic meteor]

So can you not get the Lexington anymore?

[flint arch]

I love the meaningless AI generated symbols in the thumbnail

[smoky latch]

Not at the moment, no

[flint arch]

They truly mean nothing at all

[civic meteor]

I came back right when it stopped lol

[smoky latch]

Wtf even are those symbols? 😂

Usually YTers show the gear/weapon talents there for no reason but this is totally made up by AI 😂

Had a good laugh seeing that

[livid sorrel]

Thumbnail alone turns me off

[flint arch]

At least it makes it easier to spot the 💩

[livid sorrel]

Like he could be good enough to solo legendary with whatever random BS but the very principle of using AI for his channel already drags his credibility down

[lone perch]

any easy way to do these to get more points for firewall

[livid sorrel]

is that a year 1 pass thing? i dont remember doing that to get firewall(and if i did they were probably easy enough to forget

[storm moon]

how to do this ?

[lone perch]

isn't these for more points?

[livid sorrel]

That's to unlock firewall

[lone perch]

I have it unlocked just by selecting it

[livid sorrel]

Can you activate it and use the flamethrower?

[lone perch]

yea but 0 points im trying to get more points

[livid sorrel]

You have the year 1 pass, it unlocks the 3 specializations instantly

For points just level up and do daily bounties and weekly projects

[lone perch]

all of them seems to be unlocked
just 3 of them have max points and rest 0

[livid sorrel]

Gotta equip it to get points

[lone perch]

yea

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1uy8eLQaZnK51PK9kmIKxl0sgJo7w98li6H_M3C2iJI0/edit imma follow these for shotgun build

[smoky latch]

Yup that works

[lone perch]

need to work on firewall points

[solar sable]

that works, although you gotta know how to use it, requires a bit of knowledge but not much

[lone perch]

yea I don't have any items anyways

just general follow atm before I get to 40

[smoky latch]

If you want to main a shotgun maybe it's worth farming for a Badger Tuff backpack with the same talent and attributes

[lone perch]

do I need 40 level to farm that?

[smoky latch]

To access targeted loot I think, yes. But I'm not sure. Been too long

[lone perch]

oki

what does the backpack do ;o

[smoky latch]

+10% Shotgun weapon damage

Badger Tuff that is

[lone perch]

oh nice

[civic meteor]

What’s the best smg

[smoky latch]

With this event going on you can also run goofy builds like this 😄

[smoky latch]

The answer is always: it depends. What build? What game mode?

[civic meteor]

Actually saw someone running something like that in a stronghold today

[smoky latch]

It's fun but without this global event I would not run this

[civic meteor]

Open world/PVE

[smoky latch]

Looks good

[hazy steeple]

If it has 4pcs of Striker on it, you can pretty much run it.

[smoky latch]

Maybe Equalizer chest tho, IIRC it does a little more damage than 1pc Sokolov with Obliterate

[civic meteor]

Been trying to switch out the torso but finding a sokolov with obliterate, crit chance, and crit damage is kinda hard

[smoky latch]

Just a matter of time. Keep farming targeted loot activities/open world and you'll get it eventually

[jolly sapphire]

anyone have a good build

[smoky latch]

But I would prioritize farming for an Equalizer chest with double crits

[smoky latch]

Yes

[civic meteor]

Do you have one I can see so I know what your talking about?

[hazy steeple]

@jolly sapphire If you check the 📌 pinned message > "spreadsheet 2" > builds, you'll find a bunch of heroic pre-made builds, we can help you understand them.

@civic meteor It's an incredibly common piece, you can trust them on that one.

[jolly sapphire]

is it up to date

[civic meteor]

This is so I can put an armour core on it as I want more survivability and such

[jolly sapphire]

nvm it is

[hazy steeple]

@jolly sapphire I believe so, it's definitely functional for the current update.
Pick a specific build and we can 100% confirm it.

[smoky latch]

Memento offers a great deal of survivability, if you need more you should reconsider your playstyle (no offense)

[civic meteor]

I mean I survive on heroic and do well

[smoky latch]

It's so sought after because of its talent: Perfect Obliterate

[civic meteor]

Just thinking it could be better

[smoky latch]

If you wanna go for one with 2x crits so you can roll the core to armor, go on, sure

[burnt bone]

Yeah memento should be fine by itself, you’ll survive better on heroic by killed things more efficiently

[civic meteor]

Hmm but would it be worth trading +10% smg damage for +5% fire rate for 4% more stackable damage

[smoky latch]

AFAIK yes

[jolly sapphire]

wait, I seen couple builds on youtube

The only problem is that they had modifiers on

[smoky latch]

Noooooooooooooooooo 😂

[hazy steeple]

The listed 10% SMG damage isn't actually the full 10%, just an FYI.

[civic meteor]

Oh?

[jolly sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHyJeILuxoI&t=69s

[hazy steeple]

Same as Fenris and AR's, etc.

[civic meteor]

Thanks yall

[burnt bone]

Yes the 4% is total weapon damage which is calculated different than the specific 10% weapon damage increase

[smoky latch]

His builds are mostly fine, if you play solo

[jolly sapphire]

I play solo

[smoky latch]

But that build seems to rely on old seasonal modifiers

[jolly sapphire]

I just dont know if modifiers are NEEDED

[strong cave]

They're not. If anything they're basically free damage or survivability

[hazy steeple]

As a general rule, if someone is showing a build with Modifiers active: there's a reason they're showing it with them active.
you can very easily disable them.

[smoky latch]

If a build has to rely on modifiers, it is not a good build

[junior lagoon]

there is this guy called nothingbutskils, use striker for everything, master, no worries add 2 blue and he is quite talented imho

[hazy steeple]

@junior lagoon It's best to avoid any of the popular ones.

[jolly sapphire]

wbt build https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oogdojA2yFo

tempest build

[buoyant perch]

I don't think so, people should be allowed to have fun with modifiers

[junior lagoon]

not his builds but the guy is a pretty good player

[smoky latch]

This is the build you said you wanted. It is more of a PvP build than a PvE build

[strong cave]

Skills isn't bad. Still has nothing on iKia

[hazy steeple]

@junior lagoon I mean that's cool and all, but div2 has had SHD Levels for 6 years, there are a lot of good players.

[burnt bone]

Ninjabike with foundry bulwark is interesting

[hazy steeple]

"interesting" is the wrong word.

[strong cave]

Overdogs in pvp just why

[smoky latch]

I said "more of a PvP build" not that it is one. Overdogs in PvP is a "no" ofc

[strong cave]

Alrighty just checking 💯

[burnt bone]

Which word would you use ms rivens 🙃

[smoky latch]

Test me, senpaii 😂

[strong cave]

Shit. But she can't outright say that

[hazy steeple]

@jolly sapphire Just to keep it simple for ya, the spreadsheet is useful because it's checked by people and the builds are vetted by math nerds.

[strong cave]

Get the pencil and eraser, agent 🤝

[hazy steeple]

"not good". :p

[junior lagoon]

ikia also play?

[burnt bone]

But that’s 2 words… what the heck…

[hazy steeple]

@vestal atlas indeed they do.

[smoky latch]

He plays and streams every day

(pretty much)

[burnt bone]

Looks like he streaming rn actually haha

[junior lagoon]

i mean does he play good? he always looked like the geek with the sheets etc

[hazy steeple]

The spreadsheet isn't a thing just anyone can put a build on, basically.
It's checked and tested, and if something is junky, you wouldn't risk your reputation as a smarty Agent by trying.

[burnt bone]

Why are you questioning Ikia.

[hazy steeple]

@burnt bone questioning them is exactly the point.

[burnt bone]

Never Ikia is the 🐐

[jolly sapphire]

assuming a full red striker build is single best quick and high dps build?

[buoyant perch]

what do you mean?

[hazy steeple]

A lot of options work fine for red-dps heroic play, sure you can go Striker, but you can also say, use an OD setup, or a high-end, or HF, or any number of builds.

[brave comet]

anyone got something thats actually strong outside of striker

[jolly sapphire]

what would you recommend for countdown?

[buoyant perch]

striker

[brave comet]

point proven lol

[jolly sapphire]

other then striker

[buoyant perch]

blue striker

[jolly sapphire]

like I wanna just sit by the sidelines and deal some dmg while aiding my team

[burnt bone]

Ongoing directive, negotiators dilemma, tipping scales

First Future initiative for support

[smoky latch]

Foam, FI healer come to my mind

Future Initiative*

[jolly sapphire]

which one would you recommend out of them

[hazy steeple]

Try them all, div2 is an ongoing game, have fun with it.

Start with Striker since it's easy to throw together.

[smoky latch]

They are both different versions of helping your team: foam nails down human NPCs temporarily, Future Initiative is to heal and buff your team. Depends on what you prefer playing

They're both really good builds

[vernal wing]

How does HF Compare to strikers actually?

Where would it shine? (Obv CQC)

[serene flare]

Is Liquid Engineer alright for Hunter's Fury? 🤔

[jolly sapphire]

ongoing directive

[burnt bone]

Does your chest have intimidate

[serene flare]

Yeah, I'm looking into using a Hunter Killer for it

[burnt bone]

Then yeah it’s alright

[smoky latch]

You will lose a bunch of damage. Try a PS backpack with Vigilance or Unstoppable Force

[serene flare]

what's PS?

[smoky latch]

Palisade Steelworks. My nemesis

Paired with Gunner spec 20% AoK

[junior lagoon]

i need a PS glove with crits for my latest blue build

[serene flare]

Unstoppable will probably be better IMO, I would like to actually have a Talent on my backpack lmao

[smoky latch]

I think so too but both talents will work

[kindred mango]

Eclipse is fun for Countdown. Give that a shot

[junior lagoon]

legendary god mode build

[serene flare]

considering that Hunter's Fury is a self-sustain monster, it would be far better to have the always-active damage

[serene flare]

If I'm going with Unstoppable Force, what chest talent should I go with?

[smoky latch]

A lot of ppl overlook 1pc PS in DPS builds

[burnt bone]

What weapon

[serene flare]

shotgun

[devout iris]

In what build should I use big Al here?

[junior lagoon]

unbreakable?

[smoky latch]

Chainkiller for one-tap builds is my go-to

[burnt bone]

Headhunter can be good for shotguns

[serene flare]

That's what I had going too, but Headhunter works weird with shotguns, it's super inconsistent

[burnt bone]

Obliterate for smgs

[serene flare]

I have an Equalizer I can use. My main HF setup uses Froth, so I can use that as a primer to stack up Obliterate and then blast away with my shotgun

[smoky latch]

Just hit headshots. [This](#td2-build-advice message) Is what I am running rn and it works flawless

[burnt bone]

Why froth?

[smoky latch]

Otherwise I run HHF, that build is just for fun during this event

[serene flare]

hmm well I guess I could change stuff up
I was using Froth because Gunner has the foam grenade, and I was using that to reset the cooldown on Bloody Knuckles, but if I'm not using the HF backpack talent I don't have room for an exotic

[vernal wing]

What weapons do you usually use for this?

[smoky latch]

M870 Custom

Apparently the M870 Express is identical

Backpack has HazPro, should have WH

[serene flare]

M870 for the damage, or would the Mop work too?

[smoky latch]

For the hard-hitting one-shot with decent accuracy

[signal frigate]

So i was debating which build to make and I want to know what makes the 1st build so hated and is this build used for dark zone ?

[solar sable]

people hate on Bighorn regen because it's strong or at least that's what I know

[signal frigate]

I meant the umbra build why is that hated

[solar sable]

I have no clue, I don't pvp in div2

[signal frigate]

Fair

[smoky latch]

#td2-pvp-discussions for more insights

[vernal wing]

Because umbra in PvP is:
1.) Camp in a corner to max your stacks
2.) Do a ridiculous amount of damage

[signal frigate]

Ty

[junior lagoon]

from the shadows into the light

umbra should not be hated bighorn regen yeah

at least in dark zone, dont knwo conflict

[tender robin]

any recomended build for new players ?

[maiden plinth]

hey everyone . is there any decent tanky builds with good dps too run solo legend difficulty content ?

[buoyant perch]

This is the recommended guide for beginners:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsWWMwQ4VU9474CUa6zvQdfJsDVAau2U2

[maiden plinth]

thanks apreciate it alot !

[buoyant perch]

Start with DUA legendary

[timid token]

@flint arch

Just need one more providence

[smoky latch]

Good idea linking that

[buoyant perch]

I was debating between that or the perfect glass cannon channel

[smoky latch]

Lol

I usually just mention Toasty but linking it is a fine idea

[maiden plinth]

will do thanks !

[foggy imp]

Has coco been fixed or gotten any better ?

[smoky latch]

1. No, the visual bug is still present sometimes
2. No need, it's already pretty strong

I wish anyone would ask if the disappearing marks and status effects on enemies has been fixed by now...

[stone smelt]

my build is good or not ?

if its bad can i get some advice?

[smoky latch]

Or not. When you use OD the chest piece is a must. Also, do not use OD as status effect build but treat it as a DPS build

[stone smelt]

Od ?

[smoky latch]

Ongoing Directive, the gear set you are using

Here are several good build examples that work very well:
1.
2.
3.

[stone smelt]

i dont have these exotic armor pieces (tinkerer , overdogs)

[smoky latch]

You can replace them while you farm for them. For instance additional critical hit damage or Contractor's gloves if you use LMGs

[stone smelt]

k ty

[subtle bluff]

Contractor isn't that great tbh numbers wise Crit is the stats you want to increases on builds when using a gearset due to lower amount of attributes slots you get.

[smoky latch]

Yeah okay, true

Just considered the LMG dmg and DtA more. If you break it down you are right

[subtle bluff]

Small things but I thought I share.

[smoky latch]

That's important (to me at least)

[subtle bluff]

hehe I know why I'm sharing

With Killer in play maybe contractor maybe better never did the numbers for that

[calm void]

Is it worth it to optimize a set of armor to max or should I just keep farming for better attributes?

[subtle bluff]

but for the OD it's just Ceska BP and Coytote or Grupo

[subtle bluff]

max out your library is lil more important.

[smoky latch]

It depends how much. If it's expensive you better farm

[subtle bluff]

There things you just keep incase like weapons with DTTooC on in even if there low and things with CHC/CHD already on it

There is a Keep List in the starter guide

[calm void]

I have been working on the library, I've been using negotiators dilemma and I got CHC/CHD on all pieces it's just not all maxed

[subtle bluff]

Because of your SHD have you looked around the Pinned Messages for the build hub?

[indigo fulcrum]

Any feedback would be appreciated. Not meta just something for fun. Not fully optimized yet Incase changes need to be made but would be sitting at 61% chc (I know that’s over the cap) and 157% chd. Would running 3 blue cores be better?

[tender robin]

how i can farm for overdogs ? sorry i just start the game before 1 day

[dire garden]

does status effect on a piece affect healing at all?

[junior lagoon]

it drops from the anniversary caches you get from event tracker, also you can get the blueprint from retaliations

[burnt bone]

Am I blind, what’s the difference between 1 and 3

[solar sable]

Wicked vs Vigi

[burnt bone]

Oh lol I thought I checked bp talent

Maybe the years are starting to catch up to me 😞😞

[kindred prism]

hi just got the rock n roll but i was wondering what mods people put on, i got an elmo striker build going atm

[solar sable]

In all honesty, you don't need R&R/Lefty for Strikers if you're not running Incursion/Raids with Strikers Chest.
You're better off with a regular ACS-12 w/Brazen and DTOC

[kindred prism]

and what mods do i want to put on it if im runnig raids

[solar sable]

mostly RoF, CHC and Accuracy if it admits any

[kindred prism]

ty

[knotty flicker]

Im upset, why are ARs so strong compared to other guns

[subtle bluff]

they aren't

The YouTubes and a lot players just use it as the most balance of everything.

[knotty flicker]

Made a Pesti build and swapped it for St Elmo and now it just clears anything I do so much faster now

[junior lagoon]

ARs are more versatile

[subtle bluff]

Pesti isn't a great weapon unless you build for it.

[knotty flicker]

I did is the craziest part

[subtle bluff]

Oh what was it?

that showcase is imo meta solo DPS w/o GC

[knotty flicker]

I couldn't finish it bc I couldn't get overdogs to drop yet, its running the shared damage gear set

Diplomat something

[subtle bluff]

CoCo?

Without stacks CoCo isn't great..

[knotty flicker]

No? It was getting a crit marked up to 3 enemies that share damage

Negotiators

[patent fossil]

Negotiators isn't really a build to make the most of pestilence

[knotty flicker]

Wym? I found the extra crowd control to be really nice. It helps with the issues of dealing with armored enemies

[lost wren]

it's less negotiator's and more using pesti with nego

[patent fossil]

Pesti benefits most from building weapon damage and amps, not crit. Hence pesti builds are usually CoCo or high end with 3pc lengmo.
Nego is a strong set that works well on its own terms, doesn't hugely benefit from any synergy with pesti though

Nego has good synergy with bluescreen for instance, since you spread stacks with both and get shared CC with your shared damage

[glad pilot]

got a build

[patent fossil]

Just equaliser, overdogs, 4pc nego

[glad pilot]

which skills

[patent fossil]

Whatever you like

[glad pilot]

last time i played bluescreen, i was using vile and emp pulse to map spread status n sht

[knotty flicker]

Im unfamiliar with what CoCo is of the top of my head, I find pesti (in my experience) to struggle with heavy armor enemies where I cant stack pesti passive. Using Nego helps me deal with the biggest enemy on the field while still having some level of crowd control.

Tho at this point I've swapped pesti for elmos anyways as now I can run stuff much faster than before on my own

[patent fossil]

Emp sticky can be a good way of proccing bluescreen talent

[glad pilot]

i forgot how the mechancis work

[serene flare]

I really want this build to work, Lullaby and Bloody Knuckles are really fun when they work, I just need to get it more consistent

I tried switching my attributes over to Weapon Handling to get more accuracy, but that doesn't seem to help me much

[glad pilot]

running oblitarate on shotgun is really inefficient

[serene flare]

I'm not, I'm priming with my SMG and then keeping Obliterate up with my shotgun

[glad pilot]

fair

[serene flare]

Even if one pellet critcs, it's enough to reset the timer

[real dagger]

I typically run assault rifle and sniper, keeping enemies at range using my drone as a distraction to keep enemies back or damage them consistently

[smoky latch]

Vigilance/Wicked mostly

[subtle bluff]

Drop Bloody and P. Obli run Intimidate an adrenaline rush.

[drowsy lion]

best exotic to use with strikers?

[subtle bluff]

There isn't a best. Nor you need to run exotic in general

Exo are good but also they aren't the best DPS.

[serene flare]

I get dropping Bloody Knuckles, but that just kinda defeats the purpose of the build
it's supposed to be a lot of punching

[subtle bluff]

You mean every 30s.

I wouldn't stay on it change to a different weapon

It's doable but hard in open PvE.

[serene flare]

every 30 seconds unless I'm throwing a foam grenade

[subtle bluff]

why you melee

[serene flare]

to make my shotgun do more damage lol

[subtle bluff]

It not jsut your shotgun

You proc BK with either Nade or Melee

You're doing too much tbh. Keep it simpler in sense

I'll make a quick clip.

[drowsy lion]

what would be the best way for me to farm overdogs to try them compared to my coyote mask?

countdown with glove focus?

[glad pilot]

hyena retals

[drowsy lion]

how do i do this?

[glad pilot]

https://thedivision.fandom.com/wiki/Retaliation_(Activity)

[subtle bluff]

Ya the effort to keep this up is pita

To switch back feel very uneed..

If you want to be silly do some blue build thing with both

[serene flare]

I thought about a blue core build, but the gun damage is just so bad without the red cores

[worn imp]

Am I tripping or is Sherrif absolutely cracked

[subtle bluff]

You're making some of it back up with BK

I capture bugged out

when i did a run with it but on my HF pieces were all HSD and on a SMG it does really nuttie DPS after BK proc

but BK has always been that strong

The effort of using the exo Shotgun is too much

[serene flare]

I get that, I just love the idea of knocking someone out cold instantly lmao

[subtle bluff]

You. It's not bad at all but it's not good enough to build around.

[obsidian lava]

Got this from a random elite enemy near a territory control. Did not know normal enemies outside DZ dropped exotics. Is this good?\

[subtle bluff]

that's one thing that a support tankc and leggo delete an ads once in a while.

[serene flare]

Would that be using a riot shield?
the whole vibe of this build is to run around naked and blast people in the face

[subtle bluff]

Exo and Name stuff has a chance to drop anywhere just very small.
Yes it good but in niche places.

[buoyant perch]

47% higher burst dps than Lexington with killer active, plus usable long range. It's good.

[subtle bluff]

I mean we can one shot with a shotgun already.. on solo heroic..

The effort to mele them is.....

[glad pilot]

very

[serene flare]

you can one shot?
the only reason why I'm using BK at all is because I wanted to increase my damage because I usually have to shoot 4-5 times to kill an enemy on solo heroic

[native grotto]

How can I get more crit hit chance and etc

[solar sable]

Use Police M4, swap Fenris for Ceska w/Glass, use Gunner for AoK.

[subtle bluff]

Chainkiller is one way but you can go Brazen Shotgun

[obsidian lava]

How is this heartbreaker build?

[subtle bluff]

Fenris isn't the way

[native grotto]

Yeah it’s just the only chest piece I got

[subtle bluff]

There a lot to unpack here..

[worn imp]

@subtle bluff Do the practice targets in the range count as "targetting" you so that "behind you" wont proc on them?

[native grotto]

Ceska chest piece ?

[subtle bluff]

that or Equalizer. Also your weapon needs to have DTTooC

[native grotto]

Dttooc?

Damage to enemies out of cover nvm

[serene flare]

I swear to god this game needs a visual indicator for when you're in cover but can still be hit by incoming fire

[native grotto]

What talent on the police M4?

[solar sable]

Killer

[native grotto]

Ty

One more thing right I bought the specialisation pack thing in the store for 1000 credits what does it do

[serene flare]

Chainkiller would be nice, if headshots actually worked

[subtle bluff]

It does..

[serene flare]

they don't, 50% of the time a clear headshot doesn't count

[obsidian lava]

Is it not good?

[subtle bluff]

If you had last seasonal modifiers on there one a modifiers that gave ads like 80% DR to HSD

[smoky latch]

For the third time, hit headshots 😂

I ran a HS build all day, with and without GE

[serene flare]

for the millionth time, I AM hitting headshots
they don't ever count as headshots for HH

[subtle bluff]

You're missing a lot of Crit. All those blue states do very lil for you

[shy willow]

Probably lacking damage or HSD

[subtle bluff]

currently or in the past?

[smoky latch]

If he ran the build he showed us earlier it would explain lacking HSD

[serene flare]

currently

[obsidian lava]

Got it

[shy willow]

Worth noting headhunter needs at least 150 percent HSD to be active

[smoky latch]

I ran [this](#td2-build-advice message) all day and had zero issues

[serene flare]

No it DOESN'T

I'm tired of this, HH doesn't need 150% to proc

[subtle bluff]

\

[shy willow]

It does to push it up to 1250 percent instead of capping at 800

[subtle bluff]

oh forgot

[shy willow]

Again, you're missing a ton of damage if you don't have it

[serene flare]

a ton of damage you don't need

[shy willow]

Going off what you posted earlier you're not running vigi either which also tanking your damage

[serene flare]

If shotgun headshots were consistent, it would be one thing to build further into
but they're not

[serene flare]

Look at the first three kills here, headshot headshot headshot, but no Headhunter proc
it's inconsistent

[subtle bluff]

Do you want me to go to Zoo leggo and show it?

[shy willow]

Works fine for me man idk what to tell you

[serene flare]

it's literally on video lmao

[subtle bluff]

The dmg says otherwise

[shy willow]

Damage numbers are consistent with HH stacks

Stack counter gets buggy

[serene flare]

but HH just doesn't visually activate until the 4th kill?

jeez that might be what's been tripping me up, honestly

[subtle bluff]

wait is the bug for weapon talents also bugged here visally?

I havenn't been playing a lot

[serene flare]

I'll try copying this build. What does your KSG have on it, DTTOOC? Mine has Accuracy on it, but I'm not sure if that would be good. It was either that or get Brazen on it

[shy willow]

Brazen is popping but HH bugged in clip

[subtle bluff]

You do not need to copy the build.. It's what I have on by default for HHF

[serene flare]

I mean I've noticed that a KSG is far more consistent, and it's the only good shotgun I have with Brazen rn

[subtle bluff]

M870 is pummel is normal

[serene flare]

You're using a D&H backpack with Vigilance. Would The Gift be just fine to use?

[subtle bluff]

again default build..

[serene flare]

I'm just asking questions about it lmao

[shy willow]

Any vigi, D&H is there because it's primarily a regulus build

[serene flare]

got it got it
I need to get a Regulus at some point, it looks fun af

[edgy bone]

for a mr build aces or hotshot?

[buoyant perch]

Hotshot

[serene flare]

This is going to sound so dumb, but as soon as I swapped over to my KSG, the build became 10000% more consistent
I took off Brazen and it was still killing faster than my Lullaby. I think that shotgun might just be bugged or something

[runic rapids]

@hexed steppeafter many MANY weeks of crafting. i got a skill damage kneepad should i replace my current ones (status effects) with it? id swap the armor core with skill teir

[hexed steppe]

if its a set you use a lot, sure. i would still farm out a better roll while using this... even at 4.9% youre still getting more damage than you would with status effects. turret drone, correct?

oh and as i know others have said, stop expertising gear untill you have all the builds youll ever need. those resources are too valuable while getting built out to waste at this point. save it for way end game 💯

farm out because its too many optimizations at this level

still usable tho

[runic rapids]

turret+drone yeah!

[cerulean smelt]

in case you didn't see the overdrive. you're getting 3 skill tiers and a bunch of free skill stats in your builds

[runic rapids]

yeah i saw that! but i always keep the same set as its very much what im used to now

[timid token]

I have Finnish the unit alloy build that you and corrupt told me

[hexed steppe]

Ok thoughts on my dream gearset

New gearset

Soft Ordnance

• 2pc
  20% skill haste

• 3pc
  30% status effects
  30% explosive damage

• 4pc
  Unlocks napalm turret variant. +2 ammo. Immune to self turret explosions and status. Turret ensnares npcs within 5m when disabled.

• Bag
  Additional +25% blast radius

• Chest
  Additional +50% status effects duration

-# Napalm Gang, Rise Up! 🔥

[cerulean smelt]

might've been corrupt as i don't recall suggesting any kind of Unit alloy build at all

[timid token]

Oh

[burnt bone]

Why do you have drone and tech support with no yellow cores?

[timid token]

I thought u was in on this xd

[timid token]

Uhhh idk

[timid token]

There all crit dmg and crit chance

And corrupt told me

To use this build

[burnt bone]

Do you have a screenshot or smth

[hexed steppe]

Just need vigilance on the bag

[burnt bone]

So you haven’t finished the build corrupt told you

[hexed steppe]

Probably a grupo vigilance rather than providence tho. You only use providence bag if you also use sacrifice chest

[timid token]

Well he said I can use equalizer if I want and other stuff that I don’t have

And then use 2 pc of providence

And I don’t know where to farm those item he sent

[hexed steppe]

👆

[timid token]

💀 finger not gonna tell me

[burnt bone]

I feel like we’ve had this conversation before

[hexed steppe]

👆 finger tell

[burnt bone]

Have you read this - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[timid token]

Why yes but I don’t want to use striker build anymore

[hexed steppe]

if using equalizer you wont be using providence, its gonna be lower damage. you utilize grupo instead for the extra crit damage

[burnt bone]

The guide explains this

[timid token]

…

[hexed steppe]

where did you farm your striker set

[timid token]

Uh countdown

[hexed steppe]

same f place my guy

[cerulean smelt]

the guide would let you know where to go to get gear and weapons....

[burnt bone]

And how did you farm strikers from countdown

[timid token]

Target loot 😭

[hexed steppe]

bingo

[timid token]

Xd

[hexed steppe]

pick the correct icon, farm

[burnt bone]

So how would you farm providence

[timid token]

Countdown 😂

[burnt bone]

And/or equalizer and salvo

[cerulean smelt]

countdown/retaliations is just easier as you can set your own otherwise you have to wait for the mission/open world you don't mind running over and over, but countdown/retalitaions are just faster as you get a lot of loot from it

[hexed steppe]

remove providence from this conversation now 😂
Lootcifer wept

[timid token]

Man this game fun to be confuse by 😂

[cerulean smelt]

it's harder for people who decided to use a level 30 or level 40 boost

[burnt bone]

Hmmmm my HE uses memento but once I get overdogs I’ll prob have to use an actual backpack huh ;-;

I could just run my ceska vigi and use a CHD mod instead of the usual CHC mod

[hexed steppe]

yeah, depends on how youre set. if using sacrifice, the prov bag is a no brainer since its chc. no sacrifice = its gonna be a crit bag

[burnt bone]

Equalizer has a chokehold on me

[hexed steppe]

only till you break its hand with pgc

[burnt bone]

Maybe… idk I honestly haven’t tried pgc yet

[cerulean smelt]

once you go PGC you don't go back 😹

[timid token]

O my f god I had sacrifice already didn’t even realize it 😂

Two of them now

Nope 3 of them

[hexed steppe]

any with skill damage and skill haste rolls

[timid token]

Yes

[hexed steppe]

thats a unicorn. save it for the mortar build youll be making soon

[timid token]

Yay

[hexed steppe]

🦄

make sure to favorite. also good in turret drone builds, and hardwire seeker spam builds

top tier piece

[timid token]

Ima put a crit dmg mod

[flint arch]

it's always mortars

[hexed steppe]

ones passion runs deep

[timid token]

Sadly it boost my stats little low when I put the sacrifice on

On crit dmg

Cause mine was at 121

[hexed steppe]

as long as your crit chance is right, the gain from sacrifice amp is better than equalizer

[timid token]

Ah ok

[hexed steppe]

check the actual top end damage from each

[flint arch]

I'm going to be honest, I personally don't see a damage difference between using PGC and Equalizer on my Striker build, but I heard PGC instills good gameplay habits, and also my ego is too inflated to stop using it now

[hexed steppe]

there is no ramp up with glass

[flint arch]

I groan when I see the Obliterate icon on my screen at this point

[timid token]

Well my crit chance at the right spot 55%

[atomic turtle]

Honestly, anything at or above 50% is usually good enough.

[hexed steppe]

nego and ts want a chat with you

[atomic turtle]

Tell them my voicemail is full.

[hexed steppe]

you really want to cap out tho. every non crit means the crit damage is doing nothing

[atomic turtle]

Crit damage is already doing nothing 40% of the time assuming you do hit the cap exactly. What's another 10% of time? 🤭

No, but really though, listen to local. The guy knows what he's talking about.

I'm actually still kind of miffed they brutalized my Ceska by that tiny 2% CHC.

I was hitting 60% CHC exactly.

Then they did that and now it's 58%. >:(

Granted it was on my HF build, so CHC kind of scales differently with shotguns, but still madge.

Local, why did they do this to us? sadge

[flint arch]

Ceska used to give 10%?

[atomic turtle]

Yes, and I'm still madge they nerfed it.

[hexed steppe]

they did it to tick you off

[flint arch]

you could say you were... massively trolled

[hexed steppe]

we all just gotta suffer now

[flint arch]

I'll see myself out

[atomic turtle]

Like WHY bro. WHY. it's TWO PERCENT. If you were gonna nerf it, at least go full throttle to 5 from 10. What is TWO PERCENT going to change aside from making people mad????????? arrrghgghghghhhhghghghsaeoujhgpaiwu hrenbgpae,nj rmx

Well... you lot know how I feel. I'll leave it at that.

[flint arch]

I think they should buff it to 9% next to really screw with you

Enjoy your 59% CHC

[atomic turtle]

I would actually flip the table, ngl.

There's already a huge hole behind my desk, this would just add to it.

Fragile Armor is still broken right? Devs still haven't fixed the damn thing?

[flint arch]

[atomic turtle]

No one is running Roosevelt right now. : (

[ebon lantern]

Anyone been enjoying a shotgun/close quarter combat build to take advantage of the seasonal mechanic?

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mWk2Jgg8uJX3hkturWAET95gizwVHReoOOayO-ixe6U/edit?usp=drivesdk

Hunters fury

[ebon lantern]

Hells yeah

[civic meteor]

Dps builds are addicting

[knotty flicker]

How do we feel about Doctor home?

[subtle bluff]

Mid can do something interesting with Red FI

[civic meteor]

How hard is the drop on this?

[shy willow]

Not very

[cerulean smelt]

it's a named item so you can't change the talent. just need it to have chance or damage or both

[civic meteor]

I know just having a hard time getting it to drop

The chest piece

[atomic turtle]

Any use for this?

[burnt bone]

Are you targeting unit alloy in countdown

Or retaliation

[cerulean smelt]

chance are they've been doing Chest piece target loot

[shy willow]

Eh not on a mask

Belstone protector bag with hazpro/explo resist is desirable

[atomic turtle]

I kind of figured.

[cerulean smelt]

not even pvp? oh right probably catharsis mask over this right?

[shy willow]

More or less

In PvP you'd run everyday carrier anyway

[atomic turtle]

Alright, in the junk heap it goes.

[slim sorrel]

whats a good build for lmg/ar? primary with alejandro .. mainly pve game

[atomic turtle]

The gear set one is good. Uhh what was it again?

[cerulean smelt]

lmg goto is Tipping scales or on going directive, ar striker, negotiator's and probably just high end?

[atomic turtle]

Yeah, that. Tipping Scales.

[atomic turtle]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gvv20WAX-qDLNqLj8qQCQjBbQxjz4A0OrzBBYL3hRoc/edit?tab=t.0

[slim sorrel]

bosh, thanks ill have a gander

[atomic turtle]

Is it worth specing toward health/armor damage for the Pestilence's DoT, or would I still be better off doing a normal crit build for the bullet damage?

[hexed steppe]

normal crit, dta, dttooc, twd, amps

im not 100 if dth affects or not tho

[buoyant perch]

Dth doesn't apply for some reason

[subtle bluff]

The value of getting you tick dmg lil high vs your bullet dmg for better DPS isn't worth

[atomic turtle]

Got it, so even for Pestilence, just stick to the normal way of doing things. Alright, thanks.

[sour bane]

Hi so i got Oxpecker and i got Big Alejandro yesterday. Can someone recommend a build for those?

[subtle bluff]

if you're curious about that DPS number it's in the guide you can see with ceska and PGC

[subtle bluff]

oxpecker is bad the base gun is pretty bad. Big AL you can use TS and Striker

[sour bane]

Should i mix them with anything or just choose one?

[cerulean smelt]

you can't use both in a build. only 1 exotic weapon and 1 exotic gear piece

[sour bane]

I know i mean ive seen builds that have some teal items and them some gold items i didnt know if i should do that or just run TS or Striker

[cerulean smelt]

teal, if that's a blueish color it's just colorblind mode on

[ebon lantern]

For the Hunters Fury set is there an SMG you guys like to use. Currently using Backfire and the screen effect after each reload is giving me a headache lol

[livid sorrel]

Chatterbox, ouroboros if you have it

[ebon lantern]

ty

[mild rain]

is there any like BiS mods for each weapon type? or is it just like max modifiers that increase dmg (hsd, chc, chd, ammo) ?

[cerulean smelt]

everything depends on your build

[ebon lantern]

love the build but my weak brain just gets mixed up a bit lol, wish we had a way to turn that off

[subtle bluff]

Which mods?

[civic meteor]

Yes

[keen vine]

whats a good build that people are running for DZ

[solar sable]

its better to ask in #td2-pvp-discussions

[cerulean smelt]

pretty sure in the pins Build Hub there are a few PVP starter guides, last i read some form of Headshot damage with Armor regen and big horn was popular, umbra being an "anti Heartbreaker" build of some sort and Heartbreaker, but they could've evolved in some fashion or no longer existent

[vernal tusk]

I want to make a 100% hazard, 36 protection and Grit damage+ Regen build. I focus on 3 gilla and 2 golan, 1 Belstone? I tried to make but i did not have 30 % hazard , i do get from cavalier 2pcs so.... hmmm

[subtle bluff]

🤢

[subtle bluff]

Why tho..

[atomic turtle]

MrChow is not... pleased with that loadout.

The disgust is palpable. 👌

[flint arch]

this sounds straight out of a clickbait div 2 "build" video with an ai-generated thumbnail

[subtle bluff]

or a reddit post....

[solar sable]

grit dmg

[flint arch]

grit chance

[cerulean smelt]

why not both reddit and youtube?

[atomic turtle]

Yeah, you know. Ghost Recon Breakpoint True Grit ability.

[solar sable]

regen in pve does nothing

[atomic turtle]

What on Earth would you even do with Crit Damage and no Crit Chance. That's actually just full blown cursed.

[flint arch]

average diamondback user

[atomic turtle]

The diamondback slander is real.

[vernal tusk]

I want to have 100 hazard protection, Do damage, have armor regen and 36% PFe protection that is possible? Im not saying im not making any damage, while playing with others any idear? Build setup?

[solar sable]

That's impossible to make

[cerulean smelt]

good luck in that endevour

[atomic turtle]

No, it's impossible to do that. You can't be a damage dealer and also be immune to status effects, that would be broken balance-wise.

Division 2 is a game wtih trade-offs.

[solar sable]

this aint no gacha game, boy

[cerulean smelt]

are you sure we're not turning into a gacha game?

[solar sable]

pizza's here!

[cerulean smelt]

grabs doomz pizza and licks it all over

[flint arch]

my PTSD from playing a particular Chinese gacha game has resurfaced

[cerulean smelt]

kidding doomz. but pizza would be so good if i had teef

best i can do for pizza. blend the pepperoni and cheese. warm up the marinara and dump it all in a bowl and eat it like soup 😹

[flint arch]

so here's a simple method, just wait until the stars align and you get a seasonal modifier that gives you free hazpro, alongside vanguard overdrive, and you can finally have the build of your dreams

for a whopping 3 days

[solar sable]

you do what to pizza? 😭

[cerulean smelt]

currently? don't eat it, but you're making me salivate wishing i can eat it

[atomic turtle]

First off, HazPro is only useful if you're going into specific situations where you're going to be hit with Status Effects constantly and make the content much harder (i.e. The Iron Horse Raid, such as in Feiser's arena, a very, very specific circumstance where that 100% HazPro build would shine).

Secondly, the only way to do damage is to use a DPS build, which focuses a lot of attributes into Critical Hit Chance, Critical Hit Damage, Headshot Damage, etc. You only have so many attributes to utilize and trying to make a hybrid DPS/HazPro build, more often than not, ends in failure and spits out a subpar build that isn't particularly good in either realm.

Lastly, Armor Regen is useless unless you have boatloads of Armor and are playing as a tank, which is hardly necessary in this game. Tanks are the butt of a lot of jokes in Division 2, sadly. They just don't bring a lot of value to the game. Rolling everything into Armor so that your Armor Regen is high just means you won't have any damage at all because your Red core attributes would all have to be Blue core attributes.

What you want is physically impossible to do because it directly contradicts itself in every way it can. Try to aim for a different build, bossman.

[shy willow]

Gotta specialise

Doing everything subpar is kinda sucky

[flint arch]

in conclusion: you either die fast, or you die fast and also piss your entire party off

[cerulean smelt]

click this to see tank builds in a nutshell
#td2-build-advice message

i feel we need to give kestrel a go fund me for providing us this amusing content

[atomic turtle]

Holy shit that video is effin funny, lmfao

I wonder if maybe the first game gave him the wrong idea, because Division 1 was pretty much the same to a degree. That is until Classifieds released and then you had people like D3-FNC players running with SMGs, and doing what a DPS build would do but also not die ever, lmao. And Striker did what a Healer would do and also not die ever, lmfao. And Reclaimer kind of just became a giga healer that could occasionally support with some damage/cc in the form of grenade spam. gigalol

Now Division 1 just kind of feels like a Power Fantasy instead of a Looter Shooter.

[vernal tusk]

I thought about 4 pcs heartbreaker armor, hazpro with chest and backpack. 2 cavalier with hazpro + 30 hazpro protection gives 100 hazpro and damage.....

36 Pfe

[solar sable]

🤦‍♂️ alright...

[livid sorrel]

welp not much you can do

[vernal tusk]

I want to be imune to fire, distrupt, poison and so on

I use tecnician, artificer hive, shield... pulse enemies

[solar sable]

@cerulean smelt break this guy's delusion with the Overdrive event and GE

[flint arch]

@solar sable totally unrelated note, but I've been using PVGC Striker for a bit, and it's been pretty fun weaving through tall cover

and also throwing a decoy off to my side so I can spawn camp a different door without getting shot at

[solar sable]

that's the full red PVGC spirit

[flint arch]

PGC is one thing, but additionally losing damage on getting hit is another thing entirely and it's quite interesting

[solar sable]

it takes a while to get used to but once you understand how to play with it, everything feels like warm butter

[flint arch]

also i've built up the courage to bring PGC in multiplayer now

[solar sable]

hehehe... I've been doing that since my first day on PC

[flint arch]

unfortunately im still bad at the game

[vernal tusk]

I see people use hazard protection and armor regen, a lot of pfe 72% and armor on legendary so i thought why cant i make same so i have survivability. They often use golan, belstone, murakimi, gila, improvised holster, kneepads, gloves. But hesrtbreaker gives damage ,bonus armor while pulse enemies with link laser pointer. And i was told to get 100 hazpro you will need 2 pcs cavalier, or 3 uzina to get 30% hazpro. And i thought about armor regen aswell , armor, Pfe. I make golan, belstone..... I have allready golan, murakimi, belstone with grit damage, armor, armor regen and centurion Scabbard holster + unit aloy backpack with adrenaline rush, or mask + weapon damage + armor regen

[flint arch]

you watch too much div 2 yt

[vernal tusk]

No people use it in game

[flint arch]

and they tend to perform like ass

[vernal tusk]

Maybe

[solar sable]

its a fact

[flint arch]

people bring these setups, they fire nerf darts at the enemy, and all of their defensive stats lets them tank a grand total of 1 more bullet, maybe 2

and at least 1 person will complain "how the hell did they delete all of my armor" or something and become immortalized in this server

[solar sable]

also why do you type Grit dmg instead of Crit with a C...?

[vernal tusk]

I have lost my c button on pc

[solar sable]

Gritical Hit Damage 🤣

[atomic turtle]

You don't get it corrupt, that one bullet could be the game changer vs the 10th elite that's about to kill him if not for the DPS saving them for the 40th time while mumbling to himself about tank builds.

[flint arch]

Standard DPS Attributes, GHC & GHD (Grit Hit Chance & Grit Hit DMG):
With Coyote's 50-54% GHC
W/O Coyote's closest to 60% GHC without going over cap of 60%
Then the rest into GHD.

If you are wanting to min/max or debating between which of the two to choose, multiply your GHC and GHD options together and see what ends up the highest:
GHC 1️⃣ × GHD 1️⃣ = X
GHC 2️⃣ × GHD 2️⃣ = Y

[solar sable]

lmfaoooo

[flint arch]

[solar sable]

then how tf are you typing C's if you dont have your C key? isgt people have to develop more creative ways to lie

[vernal tusk]

I type with G

[flint arch]

Interesting edit btw

[solar sable]

sure buddy, sure

genturion sgabbard

[flint arch]

I see people use hazard protegtion and armor regen, a lot of pfe 72% and armor on legendary so i thought why gant i make same so i have survivability. They often use golan, belstone, murakimi, gila, improvised holster, kneepads, gloves. But hesrtbreaker gives damage ,bonus armor while pulse enemies with link laser pointer. And i was told to get 100 hazpro you will need 2 pgs gavalier, or 3 uzina to get 30% hazpro. And i thought about armor regen aswell , armor, Pfe. I make golan, belstone..... I have allready golan, murakimi, belstone with grit damage, armor, armor regen and genturion Sgabbard holster + unit aloy bagkpagk with adrenaline rush, or mask + weapon damage + armor regen

This is like the lamest lie to exist, it's not like misspelling "critical" is a big deal

[atomic turtle]

Remember when I said that Tanks are the butt of a lot of jokes in Division 2?

It's because any value you provide to the team would be instantly doubled, if not tripled by having played DPS instead.

Your tank build is distracting all of 3 or 4 NPCs in a field full of 10 of them. You need to kill them, not distract them.

And you're not even doing a good job at that because you're so hyper-fixated on Hazard Protection, which is a useless attribute save for specific situations that you won't be in a majority of the time. It's not even a useful attribute to have on Legendary difficulty.

Idk what you're trying to achieve here, but all you're going to accomplish is a build that performs like dog ass and Godforbid you play with groups, cause they'll be annoyed at having to carry you for being dead weight because you chose to play a build that can't possibly inherently work in this game the way you want it to. I guarantee it. And that's if they don't kick you out of the party first immediately after seeing your build.

[vernal tusk]

Ok

[atomic turtle]

Look, you do you man. Try to make this build and see how far you get.

Once you've had your fill, come back here and we'll help you make a proper build that will actually get you places.

I'm all for people playing what they have fun with. I never discourage tanks because despite their value being comparatively low, at least they're having fun cosplaying a wall.

But the kind of build you want isn't going to be any fun to play, that's why I'm telling you this now. But if this is your idea of fun, go for it brother, have all the fun you want. I still don't recommend it. Lol

[vernal tusk]

All i wanted was to have some input to a possible build to get some hazard protection, Crit Damage, Grit Chance, Armor, Armor Regen, Pfe .....

[flint arch]

it's what we don't recommend at all, so obviously you're not going to get any advice other than "don't use it"

[vernal tusk]

Ok

[subtle bluff]

Do I post Armor builds doing "good" in leggo?

[atomic turtle]

And we told you that build is impossible. You can't have that amalgamation of attributes and expect it to work well. Not in anything beyond Hard anyway. Hell, Challenging will actually be quite challenging because that build won't synergize well in any conceivable way.

But like I said, try it and find out for yourself. See how that works out and get back to us on the results.

[restive dome]

What do you want exactly? Can't have it all.

[vernal tusk]

Eh build that gives survival on legendary, damage...

[atomic turtle]

He's answered this exact question with the same answer multiple times. He wants it all and we already explained Division 2 doesn't work that way.

[solar sable]

define good mr sir chow

[subtle bluff]

I said "good"

[buoyant perch]

With

[restive dome]

Yup, you could try running a full dps build on survivalist and with 2 pfe mods. It will add some protection from elites and damage negation while not sacrificing to much on damage.

[solar sable]

it needs more quote marks

[untold island]

Lemme get that striker build off ya real quick…. For research purposes 🥴

[atomic turtle]

God I love that video so much.

[subtle bluff]

Here's 3 blue builds doing there best

[atomic turtle]

It belongs in a Division 2 slander video on YT.

[flint arch]

"That is impossible that they wiped my armor like that, impossible!"

[untold island]

Try this out with the new Impetus. Thank me later

Also,

ForSpanishPressTwo is my PSN if yall wanna play. I’m on everyday

[vernal tusk]

?

[subtle bluff]

The clip I posted above

[vernal tusk]

Ok

[atomic turtle]

You know what would make armor rolls actually not suck if implemented well? Make every blue core attribute also have a flat damage mitigation. Idk like 10%. So a Tank Build would actually mitigate 60% of all damage taken.

Massive do this ^

[flint arch]

so just refactor with perfect kinetic momentum

not the most groundbreaking to be honest

[restive dome]

You have that in the game with PfE already.

[flint arch]

imo it was kinda obvious what the impetus chest could be for from the start

[atomic turtle]

Only against elites. I mean against all enemy veterancy levels.

[flint arch]

Red and purple enemies would like to have a few words with you

[atomic turtle]

Would actually make the bulwark shield much stronger too.

[restive dome]

we got that exotic chest...

[restive dome]

If you struggle killing those....

[flint arch]

if you're running PFE, you're not really going to kill those

[atomic turtle]

Which is still kind of meh for the amount it offers. Provocator is bleh.

[restive dome]

If you're on full red, you are. I'm saying you can, not that you should.

[flint arch]

noted

[restive dome]

I used a word to describe that chest that the bot didn't like 🙂

[atomic turtle]

Maybe with a flat boost to blue cores, it might make provocator actually useful as the real tank sponge build.

[subtle bluff]

Provoator is a trap.. I'd rather see vanguard

[atomic turtle]

Again, make blue cores have a flat damage mitigation, and keep tweaking the amount until we get it just right. Provocator would actually have at least some value then and turn you into a big sponge. The true tank braincell mindset.

[subtle bluff]

The end issues is threat..

Giving people DR on blue would just.. prolong things.

[untold island]

Simple yet effective

[vernal tusk]

The last one with fountry bulwark seams to be easy to make and works on legendary too. With hazard, weapon damage, armor? Pfe....

[flint arch]

oh my god how many times are we going to circle the same topic

[atomic turtle]

Have it generate more threat the longer it's out up to a max of 300% building over 10 seconds. And slowly degrading over 10 seconds after being put away.

[subtle bluff]

It doesn't work...

unless you are gonna jsut be a selfish tank that all you build for is to stand upright.

forcing the rest of the team to pick up your slack.

[atomic turtle]

Slogan for Y8S1: Make Tanks great again.

Massive pls.

[restive dome]

They were never great, can safely remove "again" from that slogan.

[vernal tusk]

I thought the video was meant for real...

[subtle bluff]

Are we watching the same video?

[atomic turtle]

YouTube guides are notoriously awful when it comes to builds. Don't listen to them. Half of those people don't even know what they're talking about and the other half that do, are either shitposting or misunderstood how to properly build around attributes.

[flint arch]

Make Tanks Slightly More Tolerable

[restive dome]

It's content management, too little content for a full time streamer, so they have to come up with something.

[restive dome]

Doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

[atomic turtle]

Oh is he talking about that video you sent, MrChow?

Yeah that's gonna be you, Hydra. Getting saved by a random DPS player that just happened to join at the right time.

[flint arch]

oh my god I just realized they saw an example of the build not working and they still think it's good

[vernal tusk]

It was the video that was posted 3 blue cores build do the best they can ...

[flint arch]

and the best they can do is die instantly

notice one person didn't die instantly, and it's not the people with blue cores

[atomic turtle]

But... but... my armor cores! 🥺

[flint arch]

okay i forgot the last guy actually didn't die, so i'm going to reword it

[vernal tusk]

Yes they have hazard, armor, pfe...

[flint arch]

notice one person managed to actually kill enemies and not either melt or stand around clueless, and it's not the people with blue cores

[atomic turtle]

How do you even know when you can't even tell what their build is from that video other than it's a vague tank build.

Are we watching the same video?

[vernal tusk]

On the last part fountry build

[subtle bluff]

I swear 2 night in a row...

[flint arch]

Why are you so fixated on these things when we've told you again and again and again that 1. you cannot have everything in a build, and 2. you will only become a slightly more resilient piece of paper holding a nerf gun if you go that route

Even showed an example of these builds

NOT WORKING AT ALL

And yet you still fixate on them

They don't even work well for the intended purpose of the stats

Let alone any semblance of damage

[solar sable]

make it 3

[atomic turtle]

Corrupt, just let it go. It's not worth it. Go on buildapp and make him the build exactly how he wants it and let him play it out. We'll see if he still stands by it after going through hell.

[flint arch]

idk why im doing this it's 2:17 am lol and i still have physics lab homework due today and i have class at 8:50

[atomic turtle]

The only way he's going to learn is by actually using the thing and seeing how far it gets him.

It's 5 am for me and I need to be up at 8:30.

[flint arch]

nah, i'm going to leech from the document, here it is

okay i'm going to actually do my homework now

[marble maple]

Is perfect obliterate better than tipping scales chest piece?

This is what Im running rn

Im thinking of running salvo, equalizer then replace carthasis with tinkerer?

[atomic turtle]

Everyone do be running blue cores these days...

[atomic turtle]

What are you actually trying to achieve here? What's the goal with this build?

[marble maple]

maximum dps with 5/6 blue cores

[atomic turtle]

That is not going to hit maximum DPS at all. You're firing a pea shooter that's going to mildly annoy NPCs.

[marble maple]

I'm not running legendary missions this is for solo heroic play

[atomic turtle]

You don't need that many blues for Heroic at all.

You don't even really need a single blue core since Tipping Scales just deletes enemies off the face of the Earth in Heroic solo scaling.

I'm doing like 1.7M headsets with a Classic M60 and 1.4M on bodyshots.

[marble maple]

Yeah so this is what Im running for all 6 reds

I was thinking overdogs then salvo?

[atomic turtle]

I would swap the chest if you can't maintain firing speed optimally but otherwise it's fine. I would swap Grupo for Contractors if you veer into Pestilence, but this build works fine as it is.

[subtle bluff]

TS chest is a trap

[marble maple]

I lose out on 175 cd tho

[atomic turtle]

^ Personnally, I'd go with Sacrifice Chest and Overdogs. Which makes up for that crit loss easily.

[subtle bluff]

It's not much dmg vs other and better choices

[atomic turtle]

See?

[marble maple]

huhhhhh interesting

[subtle bluff]

and it take 5s longer to get there

[atomic turtle]

You get more upfront damage sure, but it's less in the long term.

[buoyant perch]

Going from 400chd to 600chd isn't worth much because of diminishing returns

[atomic turtle]

Yeah, Division scaling is usually non linear there's always a curve somewhere that gets worse the more you add on, if you think about it.

[marble maple]

soooo whats the best?

over dogs salvo equalizer?

[atomic turtle]

Look at the graph it tells you.

[gray radish]

best build for Harrier Pride backpack for lmg

[marble maple]

whats C?

Salvo + overdogs but whats the chestpiece?

[slate wedge]

that’s with the chestpiece

but that’s like the worst if the three

[subtle bluff]

What's "Best"?

[slate wedge]

i’d recommend you just go Equalizer + Overdogs

what third attribute you got on the Big Al?

[slate wedge]

none

[gray radish]

best gear set for it?

[marble maple]

damage to armour

[slate wedge]

that’s perfect for TS

[subtle bluff]

Gearset or Build?
and I asked what's "Best"?

[marble maple]

yeah just farming CHC CD rolls on equalizer

[slate wedge]

[gray radish]

gear set

[marble maple]

If Im using GR9 would tinkerer be better? then like salvo

[slate wedge]

probably Striker with a HE chest piece

[subtle bluff]

If you're gonna use both I guess strikers or HB.

[marble maple]

Ideally I want to be as close to empty as possible after frenzy talent finishes proccing

[subtle bluff]

both aren't really good.

[gray radish]

thanks just get this backpack gonna try it out

[slate wedge]

it can be but depends on the circumstances and content you’re running

[slate wedge]

with Big Al you might wanna try out Centurion’s Holster and Equalizer

[marble maple]

oooo okay

[slate wedge]

if you have a chem launcher you can activate the centurion buff that reloads your weapon by swapping to the chem and back without losing the stack from Big Al’s talent

[marble maple]

Is swapping to chem launcher faster than switching weapons?

[shy willow]

Switching weapons resets big Al stacks

[marble maple]

so does chem launcher reload + keeps al stacks

[slate wedge]

yes, but only every second swap

[maiden plinth]

general qeustion , is there any tank builds out there , that can dish out like 600 too 900 k DPS , and still survive legendary content ?or heroic content like retaliation or countdown ? or am i dreaming a little bit ?

[strong cave]

Dreaming hardcore. However, you can run up to 2 blues on striker and deal plenty of damage. You won't be this "rolling bullet sponge" but you'll be able to take a few heavy hits and still be fine

[livid sorrel]

hoo boy another one

1. Tanks aren't useful outside of raids because of how the game deals with aggro
2. You have to choose between DPS and defense
3. If you want DPS with some defense, reconfiguring red cores to blue on a DPS build like Striker should be fine

[untold island]

I did and it’s orgasmic ❤️🥹🥹🥹

[maiden plinth]

oky cool , was thinking im dreaming a little bit there . i love DPS builds , but hate being one shot killed alot .

[maiden plinth]

understandable !

[strong cave]

In this case, I would recommend looking into how you are positioning yourself in fights. That's a lot of times why you easily get 1 shot hit

[livid sorrel]

For solo survivability you can use Memento, if that's not enough, Technician Artificer Hive with a shield

[strong cave]

Sometimes you can't control it. In those cases I swear by Exodus gloves

[maiden plinth]

yeah it is 100 percent true . im trying legendary content , but damn i get naded out of cover , im still a noob to this game lol

[strong cave]

You prio kill drone ops/grenadiers always

They are the #1 threat at the start of every encounter

[ocean stirrup]

i am nearly at floor 100 on summit normal do i need to change anything or get a group ?

[maiden plinth]

thanks will practise that

[maiden plinth]

what gear you running with striker ? equaliser chest with memento ?

[maiden plinth]

hey @livid sorrel so striker build with memento backpack ? and maybe equalizer chest running saint elmos ? or is there something better with striker set plus memento

[livid sorrel]

that's it

[upbeat whale]

hey, is there a good website for looking up builds. I got some exotics and want to know how to build them properly

[maiden plinth]

thanks blue

[buoyant perch]

Recommended builds are in the pinned spreadsheet. Not all exotics are worth building around.

[strong cave]

4 piece striker, Ceska chest obliterate, Overdogs/Exodus gloves

Occasionally will run Nimble Holster with Eagle Bearer AR

[maiden plinth]

thanks wil check this out

[misty walrus]

I just found out that eclipse is extremely efficient against hunters countdown

[hexed steppe]

Especially if you have some hazpro/disrupt resist 😉

The sheet has a hazpro cc eclipse guide 😎

[somber wolf]

hey peeps, im currently doing a shield/artificer hive build and i wanna know what to do to get more consistent damage/survivability
elmos mainhand
lengmo mask
ninjabike backpack
equalizer unit alloy chest
3 piece foundry bulwark

[livid sorrel]

can't have both dmg and survivability

[subtle bluff]

Not using so much blue gear.. but like mentioned you can't have everything.

[hexed steppe]

I would build a regular dps, then use memento bag along with the already active tech class. That alone puts you at tier 3 shield, tier 2 artificer (before figuring in any events).
Memento also additionally scales up the shield strength(skill health) and artificer repair(repair skills) by an additional 30-45% from the memento talent skill efficiency

Trust, ninja not doing you any favors

[misty walrus]

99% haz pro/dr + blinder & foam 😎 i wouldnt expect it to be that easy

[hexed steppe]

Yeah its a beautiful thing. You using creeping or are you using opportunistic?

All I use in cd

[misty walrus]

creeping

[somber wolf]

hm maybe i switch builds again then lol, i wanna do legendary missions and this aint it so far kek

[burnt bone]

Yeah as far as I know a tank build isn’t going to get you far in legendary unless your teammates REALLY carry

[subtle bluff]

Div2 isn't your traditional loot em shoot game. Tanks aren't really a thing here.

[somber wolf]

are links allowed in this chat? i found another build using alejandro, i wanna actually get confirmation before i spend ages building it kekw

[hexed steppe]

I started with creeping then I moved to opportunistic for additional team amp. Its nice when the jerks are hazard immune but you can still debuff 😂

[livid sorrel]

just say what it has

[burnt bone]

If it’s from youtube there’s likely something better

[somber wolf]

hm where yall finding good builds if not youtube D:

[livid sorrel]

the gear sheet

[somber wolf]

comment section saying this guy is an og lol

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[burnt bone]

What’s the build

[hazy steeple]

@somber wolf A long-time player does not mean they know what they're doing. I've been playing div2 since launch and a build I make would still need to check the sheet for stats.

[livid sorrel]

someone could solo legendary with the randomest BS and call it a build to get clicks

[hazy steeple]

If you use the screen-snipping tool that's built into windows and take a shot of the main build page, we can let you know if it's worthwhile going for.

[somber wolf]

The Division 2 | The New Exotic LMG Works Perfect With This Combo!! | Solo Legendary Easily!!

o wait can yall tell if this is good just by the picture

[livid sorrel]

oh, patrick wolf the oxpecker harrier guy with the ai generated channel banner and display picture

[hazy steeple]

4 blue cores on a build with no shield is....

If the goal is Big Al with Tipping Scales, you can probably just slap it in a full red setup.
Do they explain in the build why it has so few reds and so many blues?

[burnt bone]

Did they have the ambush modifier active

[somber wolf]

its because hes already getting 1.5m crits and its primarily a solo build

[subtle bluff]

The fact they use TS Chest is the dumb.

[somber wolf]

is that any of these

am new to the game only 5/6 days idk stuff yet lol

[livid sorrel]

It should be on the enemies iirc

[subtle bluff]

Measuring dmg by per bullet isn't an accurate way to measure a builds output

[hazy steeple]

"it's a solo build", doesn't explain why they are seriously nerfing the damage.
The 4/6 cores being blue is very strange.

I'm sure Chow can tell you how little that will benefit you without a shield.

[burnt bone]

Above the health bar I think

While not moving

[livid sorrel]

Nvm was thinking of assault

[somber wolf]

im guessing not then, he's behind cover at this part and theres nothing

[brave wagon]

Ok so i am trying to get a grasp on the gear and im kinda struggling

[livid sorrel]

What's the problem

[brave wagon]

Ok so like, like should i be focusing on armor sets or named gear?

I kinda have a idea on what tinkering is but not really at the same time.

[livid sorrel]

You want to work towards a full build. Whether that requires a gearset, a named piece, or a high end piece depends on the build.

[brave wagon]

Well I got the Shroud so I wanna make a sniper build

[cerulean smelt]

that was ambush and that got disabled monday night

[livid sorrel]

#td2-build-advice message
Every build you will ever need

[burnt bone]

Yeah ambush was when many YouTubers were making big al builds

[brave wagon]

came back for the anniversary stuff and got a bunch of exotics but I like the Shroud and the Chameleon

[cerulean smelt]

i imagine many never explaind the event either 😹

[burnt bone]

It would look like a thin blue line above the health bar

[brave wagon]

Ok so I need to get a set of Aces armor

[cerulean smelt]

wrong link?

oh nm, i clicked the wrong link 😹

[livid sorrel]

it's a link to the message with the link to the spreadsheet but aight

[marble maple]

How is memento over tipping scales backpack?

or does the chd difference really matter

[hexed steppe]

Chd doesnt matter on tipping. Its the chc thats important. That being said its always a trade off using memento

You will do less damage, but you will also gain a lot of other perks if memento is utilized fully

[marble maple]

yeah but 7-4 from each stack you lose out 150 CHD

[hexed steppe]

Yes, like everything, there is diminishing returns when a ton of it is stacked...
Also, I did mention its a trade off. What is the purpose of considering memento?

[marble maple]

bonus armour on add klls

[hexed steppe]

What weapon? Youll likely want to stick with ts bag, you wont be using memento properly. Bonus armor doesnt carry a build.

[marble maple]

gr9 + frenzy

[brave wagon]

Ok so.. it takes 5 shots with Shroud with my current build to kill a named gold dummy

is that good or bad

[hexed steppe]

Yeah no. Can't utilize shield, likely just using revive and cc skill/decoy. Memento isnt a good fit. Use good positioning and max damage output

[marble maple]

are all of the exotic backpacks really ass for tipping scales build?

[hexed steppe]

Shield can benefit 2 skill tiers from memento, skill efficiency can benefit damage or healing skills a lot

Memento is a really good bag, but if not utilized its a drain just like ninja. Utilized its top tier for its purpose

[tender whale]

Yo breaking point with ravenous makes sense or have I made my millionth super niche build

[slate wedge]

does Rav gain 2 stacks per shot?

[tender whale]

I think so and I can get the mag to 68 so 68 stacks at 7percent damage buff with the bag

[worn imp]

gonna post my question in asktd2community instead

[neat fjord]

Hey everyone, can someone recommend me some build that uses shotgun?

[patent fossil]

Hunters Fury (crit or headhunter version)

[drifting kraken]

hey guys, any good build for Big Alejandro without using Liquid Engineer?

[smoky latch]

4pcs Tipping Scales, Equalizer chest, Overdogs gloves. 59/slightly over 60% CHC, rest CHD

Same with Striker's but between 55-59% CHC

[burnt bone]

My understanding is most of the good big al builds don’t use liquid engineer

[drifting kraken]

Saw 3 builds yesterday on YT and they all had Liquid Engineer as backpack. Thx for the info

[smoky latch]

Don't use YT to find builds

Just a recommendation 😀

[drifting kraken]

k, fair. Was thinking Striker 4 piece with C.chance addons and something else?

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message

[drifting kraken]

thx!!!

[burnt bone]

Most YouTube vids vastly oversell the builds they’re using, when in doubt I recommend the spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[drifting kraken]

Thx!

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nOwUSECa-1iLhET-mW04u6oMBdIdMjFjB2Ie25ziEA/edit?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LPnA18PDgGg_dEbNI1kZVTVIMGXNHQS_

Bookmark these as well

[untold island]

Hotshot Mask, Holster, Kneepads— Overdog Gloves, Airaldi Backpack with Vigilance, and Chest with Headhunter. (If you want 25% more dmg run chain killer chest piece [perfect headhunter]❤️ hope this helps 🥹🥹

[smoky latch]

Pls stick to brand set names instead of item names. Several brands have multiple versions of an item which makes it confusing

[untold island]

It’s honestly not that hard

[smoky latch]

If you say Airaldi backpack, everyone knows what you mean

[hazy steeple]

Inf is right, that's the shorthand used in this franchise.