td2-build-advice

[sharp folio]

Wait so like how does that pulse work? Is it just several pulse zones or?

[serene flare]

I tried throwing in Bloody Knuckles and Lullaby
this Hunter's Fury build turned into a really fun crackhead brawler setup

[cerulean smelt]

If unobercharged it picks a couple zones i think?

[serene flare]

just run around shotgunning people in the head and knocking them out cold for huge damage buffs

[sharp folio]

Also do you guys have fun foundry bulwarks builds or nah?

[serene flare]

fun Foundry Bulwark builds?

just run any tank weapons platform you like lmao
there's nothing fun about Foundry, it's just a wall of meat

[sharp folio]

I'm already scared 🤣

[serene flare]

my advice would be to find a weapon that doesn't rely on red cores to be good

Alejandro will do very well for ya

[sharp folio]

There it's just foundry bulwark build question now

[sharp folio]

Don't have it yet

[serene flare]

link your Twitch account and idle in some streams for Anniversary caches. You'll get one out of there, but if you're unlucky you can get it from the event reward track

[sharp folio]

What should I max out now in this?

[hazy steeple]

Don't worry about rushing, you have another 3 weeks to farm it out via the Anniversary Track.

HazPro is never a bad thing to get.

[serene flare]

I would say Haz Pro, Explosive, and then Health

[sharp folio]

I just need 7 more rows to get big al blueprint

[shy willow]

Paints areas of a targets body, hitting painted areas counts for headshot damage

[serene flare]

the Anniversary caches have a pretty good drop rate on the bonus item to be the Exotics

[normal aurora]

Has anyone done a DMR build on PvP?

[sharp folio]

So like what specific stats should I run on foundry's bulwark?

Or attributes I mean

[serene flare]

stats depend on what you want to be doing with it
are you going to be more skills focused, guns focused, or tanking focused?

[sharp folio]

Most likely tanking focused, I already have guns/skills focused builds (although the skills focused one is more of a healer build)

[serene flare]

I would say Armor Regen would be a good stat to focus on for Foundry, but I don't have much experience with it. Based on what I know of what that set does, Armor Regen will probably be giving you great uptime

But if you're planning on using something like a Fixer Drone to keep yourself up quick, Repair Skills would be the way to go

[sharp folio]

Also is the description of this is outdated? I tried using it on myself but my armor wasn't reinforced (unless it only works on allies)

[serene flare]

that thing just repairs your armor

If you're not running any skill tier or a way to buff it up, I wouldn't use a chem launcher
it's an extremely slow heal that won't amount to much if you're tanking with Foundry

[sharp folio]

It's for my healer build only tho

[serene flare]

gocha

[sharp folio]

I didn't mean it that I will be using for foundry lol

[sharp folio]

In that case I would have to ask someone more experienced about which armor pieces I should use

[serene flare]

I mean, the nice thing about using Gear Set stuff is that you just have to get a good core roll and you can swap out the attributes to whatever you like
no reason not to try stuff

[sharp folio]

Honestly yeah but I'm still afraid that I'll make an abomination 😭

[bright raptor]

yeah it only repairs if you have missing armor, it doesn't provide bonus armor or anything resembling "overheal" in other games

[sharp folio]

I don't even know when I got this

[smoky latch]

It was granted once and by now became part of several event loot pools

[sharp folio]

Ah I see

I honestly need opinions on what to change

[faint wind]

Do you want survivability only?

[sharp folio]

Yep

[faint wind]

I'd never make such build on higher difficulty since it takes hours to kill a mob

[sharp folio]

Also I just realized why mrchow said that the smg that repairs the shields is shit

[faint wind]

Oxpecker sucks

[sharp folio]

It's just doesn't repair much on that type of build

[faint wind]

in terms of better gameplay ofc

what's the drone variant? is it a fixer?

[sharp folio]

Fixer yeah

Also what gun would ya recommend me for that build I made?

[faint wind]

Consider bringing reviver hive for the last backup, and put Emperor's guard for the kneepad instead if you really need healing in addtion to FB 4 pieces

Scorpio is fine I guess

Is that for solo? MM?

[smoky latch]

May I drop a remark about this build?

[sharp folio]

Just to play with my friends on higher difficulty, maybe for pre groups on it if it's "decent" enough

[sharp folio]

It's shit I know

[smoky latch]

Do you wanna keep the build as is, really defensive?

[faint wind]

I think your friends won't appreciate the build since you don't pull aggro. You are hard as fxxx but enemies will simply ignore you because of the low dmg output.

[sharp folio]

I mean yeah, I have striker build so like, I'm not sure if there's any better build than that (especially since I don't have big al or bluescreen)

[sharp folio]

I could try to use a mosquito pistol if that's what it's called

[smoky latch]

Armor Regen as attributes?

[sharp folio]

In the tank build? Yes

[smoky latch]

Use Technician Spec and use the Artificer hive

[faint wind]

Mosquito isn't a good aggro dragger, it only drags 5 secs

[sharp folio]

Instead of what? Fixer?

[sharp folio]

Then what is

[smoky latch]

Yes

Use Overdogs for a little damage, using Ceska has no effect on anything in that build

Kneepads, IDK, maybe Fox's Prayer

[sharp folio]

First time hearing of this

[smoky latch]

It drops a lot from random open world caches

[faint wind]

You dealing high damage is the best aggro tbh, but I'd suggest interfering mobs with something like riot foams, blinder ff, banshee pulse and so on

[sharp folio]

Uhhhhhhh, I'm confused to say the least

[sharp folio]

At this point I'll just scrap the build

[faint wind]

It's not necessarily useless but it's just not... helping your friends that's it

[sharp folio]

Well too late

[faint wind]

lmao

[sharp folio]

With more damage it doesn't help with survivability and with no damage it doesn't help my friends so yeah no

[faint wind]

Acosta's Go-Bag is a good instant Overcharge piece, useless if you aren't skill main

Harrier Pride is one of the latest exotic pieces but I think it's a bit cumbersome... You have to hit them a lot to gain damage buffs and have to eat shots to gain damage reduction, but it flips over at 80 stacks

[sharp folio]

Someone made a clickbait video about a build with this gun and the harrier backpack and called it "OP"

[faint wind]

that OP stands for "Obviously Poop", don't fall for it

[sharp folio]

I know

[toxic frigate]

if im looking for Everyday carrier

do i set the drop as Belstone or Chestplate

[smoky latch]

Always brand

[drifting fiber]

is it better to have higher max damage potential but harder to maintain stacks or a lower max damage but easier to maintian stacks?

[subtle bluff]

It simple.

[subtle bluff]

TS, Striker and CoCo chest aren't worth if that's your question.,

[drifting fiber]

nah using equalizer and overdogs, i just have an ouroboros striker that is working just fine, but ouroboros TS has a higher damage at max stacks but its hard to reach max stacks with such a small mag

[subtle bluff]

nah as in?

[drifting fiber]

i'm not using the chest pieces of neither striker or TS i'm talking about maintaining stacks itself between these two sets

[subtle bluff]

Strikes hands down.

You'd build slower and lose faster with ouro or any SMG.

[hearty owl]

Striker is as brain dead as it gets. Point, click and shoot. The decay is so forgiving that you basically always will have max stacks without chest

#NerfStriker

[sharp folio]

Could someone tell me what buffs does the FI healer build give?

I think I'm gonna farm up red OD build honestly

[subtle bluff]

All in the gearshhet

[hushed forge]

what would be a strong build for this assault and skill event? are they on both at same time

[mild dawn]

anything that is strong without the events is stronger with them and yes
just go hug the enemies

[patent fossil]

Hunter's fury is a decent bet for a close range event, skill event will make shield stronger

[mild dawn]

eclipse firedog gets pretty silly with assault

[hushed forge]

these events dont seem to work in countdown. are there other missions that wont work

[burnt bone]

Think it’s mainly just countdown where global events aren’t active

[sharp folio]

Which TS pieces should I use with big al?

[burnt bone]

Backpack

[sharp folio]

Why?

Also I meant like which 4 tipping scales gear pieces should I use, not just 1

[misty walrus]

my turret today shoots like trueson turret

[scenic whale]

typically you run backpack, mask, holster, knees. Then Equalizer and Overdogs

The backpack increases the crit damage you get per stack, the chest increases the stack count but 9/10 times you won't ever reach the base 50 stacks let alone the chest's onus of 75

if you dont have overdogs you can swap over to like Coyote's mask or something and use TS gloves

[burnt bone]

Not the chest

Doesn’t matter which others you use, mainly depends on which exotic you want

Tipping scales https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Gvv20WAX-qDLNqLj8qQCQjBbQxjz4A0OrzBBYL3hRoc/edit?usp=drivesdk

[sharp folio]

Is this tinkerer mask or?

[buoyant perch]

yes

[sharp folio]

Not sure if I can make CHD bigger

Actually I think I could with equalizer

[mint axle]

not much, gear sets have this limitation when between 50 and 60 chc.

[sharp folio]

(except for TS giving you chd stacks per shot I believe)

[thick meteor]

Is 53chd good? Since I have alot of chc (around 54 or so) and im upgrading the watch for chd

[livid sorrel]

I'd personally try and push it closer to 60

[buoyant perch]

the set gives you like 350% CHD, CHD is the least of your worries

[sharp folio]

Wait at 50 stacks?

[buoyant perch]

yeah

[sharp folio]

Just wondering because I'm building it for big al

[buoyant perch]

your non crit hits like peanuts so the crit has to make up for it somehow

[sharp folio]

I could get 60% chc but I'm not sure

[buoyant perch]

you have to, all the damage bucket is in crit

[sharp folio]

Let me see if I can get 60% in the first place

Ok I can do it with just changing mods on the pieces

Oh my I just realized how painful the TS if there's just a singular enemy

[hoary raptor]

With the new event would you say 4p red striker momento and anything else with 1 blue core with tech spec would be best way around it with capatior as main? To run shield and drone

[livid sorrel]

You're better off running a tech tank

[hoary raptor]

What’s a tech tank consist of?

[livid sorrel]

Technician spec, shield and the artificer hive from that spec

[hoary raptor]

Oh right but with the 4p striker momento and any other?

[livid sorrel]

I recommend you run all reds unless you want more defense

Your main source of defense is going to be the shield

[burnt bone]

Yeah honestly you’re fine with less chd base because you get a lot from TS, do you have equalizer you could use instead of a ceska chest?

[sharp folio]

Not yet unfortunately, gonna grind for equalizer later on tho

[burnt bone]

Ah it’s def worth it (and I guess the guide is a lil outdated haha)

[sharp folio]

Although pestilence is making up for it for now lol

[burnt bone]

Equalizer has kinda just become of permanent part of many shooty gun builds

[hoary raptor]

Thanks capatitor defo way forwards for the extra 7.5 p skill tier though?

[burnt bone]

Hmmm you might actually be losing a lot of TS damage with pesti, idk if it’s damage over time can crit

[livid sorrel]

No, capacitor isn't good for damage at all

[sharp folio]

Right...

I can't even go above half the stacks yet

[burnt bone]

That’s why 60% chc is so important on TS because if you don’t crit you’re just getting handlingbonus

[sharp folio]

Already got to 60% chc

[burnt bone]

Yaa that’s why I’m saying idk if pesti poison can crit

[livid sorrel]

it can't

[burnt bone]

Well it’s on the guide so I might be misleading you

[sharp folio]

What lmg would be better?

[hearty owl]

??? Who made that guide

No way Raucey is putting Stoner and Pestilence on there

[livid sorrel]

I mean it's an LMG, it should still work
The ticks are just a nice bonus

[sharp folio]

You're good

[burnt bone]

Looks like it’s mainly Reflex and a bit of mr chow

[buoyant perch]

stoner not sure but TS has 30% WP damage for pesti tick

[sharp folio]

Should I just run 200 round lmg and a big al for my TS build?

[burnt bone]

I’d say iron lung or mk46/gr9/m60/mg5 with a damage talent

[buoyant perch]

big al is fine

[burnt bone]

True I’ve heard good things about big Al TS

[sharp folio]

Which damage talent also how does the iron lung look like?

[burnt bone]

Like dwagon

Killer is good, I use measure in groups

[sharp folio]

Neuron activation

[sharp folio]

It stacks its cover damage with chd so I guess it is good (Unless it's damage out of cover talent)

[burnt bone]

I think it’s largely because big al has many bullet and wants to do the same thing that TS wants - shoot many bullet

[sharp folio]

Wait does big al has 200 ammo or?

[buoyant perch]

260 with TS

[sharp folio]

Oh nice

[burnt bone]

Who has nice things to say about techtank builds/which do you think I should try first

[zenith plover]

what's a good high end pieces for this PFE striker setup? looking in to trying to do a solo master run hehe

[sharp folio]

What do ya think about this now?

(still missing equalizer which I will try to get rn)

[patent fossil]

The high end pieces are improvised gear because they let you have a pfe mod instead of a brand bonus

You can't really swap them out without dropping a load of pfe

[zenith plover]

I see got it, but what about the stats? just chc, chd all mods pfe and 2 blue cores right?

[patent fossil]

Yeah it's unlikely to be anything else. You could maybe run more blue cores (at the cost of damage) if you needed, but of course this week you get free shield tiers anyway

[junior lagoon]

Is there a brand that gives smg damage? Something like equivalent of unit alloys for smsg. Like replacing equalizer

[coral reef]

hunters fury, my beloved

[buoyant perch]

Equalizer gives fire rate which is good for everything. There's a brand that gives 10% smg damage -sokolov

[junior lagoon]

Hinters fury wont work becuase i just need a chest could be 2 piece bonus at mx

Does sokolov have a named chest piece?

[coral reef]

i would keep Equalizer over 10% smg damage every time

[junior lagoon]

Ok

[buoyant perch]

I don't remember so nothing good

[lament reef]

yeah 10% smg is nowhere near firerate and perfect obliterate

[livid sorrel]

Striker for dmg heartbreaker for more armor

[real mesa]

I recently got back into TD2 again, and I was wondering what fun chill builds there currently are?

Any for skills and dmg? Or just exotics people don't normally use?

[jade tulip]

What would you consider to be the best general spec for overdogs obliterate striker?

[livid sorrel]

Gunner

[jade tulip]

What's the reasoning, if you don't mind me asking?

[livid sorrel]

10% armor on kill, 5% fire rate on kill, 10% ammo every minute

[jade tulip]

Would that be more useful than a global 5% Dtoc?

From Demo, that is

[livid sorrel]

I'd say it's worth it

[jade tulip]

Understood. To be fair, in a group setting, someone else would be the demo giving everyone that bonus.

[zenith plover]

how do you farm max rolled mods?

[jade tulip]

Years ago it was Legendaries and Summit 100. I don't know now

[zenith plover]

how do you farm max rolled gear mods?

[livid sorrel]

Countdown targeted loot

[zenith plover]

ayt thanks

[mild dawn]

if youre alone you dont get that dtoc, you need another player with demo spec to get the bonus

[jade tulip]

Interesting

I'm interested in trying the Elmo out. Would it do good in said striker obliterator build? I've been using the Carbine 7 for it.

[livid sorrel]

that's the usual striker gun

[jade tulip]

Aside from the Lex? Interesting

[junior lagoon]

for a new player st elmo could be better for lexington. bigger magazine and shock effect helps

[patent fossil]

Great mods too

[burnt bone]

Overall yeah

[patent fossil]

But striker works well with basically any reasonably fast firing automatic weapon, it's very flexible

[sharp folio]

How do I get st elmo btw?

[burnt bone]

Elmo is just the most popular, a famas or police m4 will deal more damage

[burnt bone]

Exotic caches, world drops, target ARs in countdown/retal/summit

[sharp folio]

I assume you count kill squads in retaliations?

[lament reef]

can also just get the blueprint as a retaliation reward

[burnt bone]

Uhhh are you asking if you can get the blueprint from kill squads

[sharp folio]

I meant how to get both honestly

Because I have bad luck in terms of getting exotic guns

[lament reef]

you can get it directly as a drop from places that you can target farm ARs

you can get it perhaps more quickly from retaliation by getting the blueprint

[burnt bone]

I think the question is just a bit misinformed is all, kill squads do drop things when they die because they’re full of strong enemies, but upon wiping a kill squad you have a chance to get an exotic BP from a pool tied to different factions’ kill squads

That’s what people mean when the talk about kill squads

[sharp folio]

I can probably only get blueprint from retaliations since neither of the places in the map have the ars as loot*

[burnt bone]

Do you know how to target things in countdown

[sharp folio]

I do

[hazy steeple]

Hover over CD and hold H.

[sharp folio]

If I didn't I wouldn't have gotten FI healer build, striker and TS build

[hazy steeple]

It also works with Retal/Summit.

[burnt bone]

Wdym by neither have ARs as loot?

[sharp folio]

I mean that any place in the map doesn't have assault rifles as targeted loot

[burnt bone]

When we’re talking about targeted loot we’re basically ALWAYS referring to places you target yourself

[lament reef]

the map zone targeted loot does not affect retaliation, that’s its own instance

[mild rain]

Do people generally solo countdown or do they do it in a group? Im just starting and seeing that the answer to how to get drops is generally target farm countdown. But i typically only play with a group of 3, so not sure if countdown is still worth it then

[lament reef]

group by far

[sharp folio]

Wait so retaliations targeted loot can be changed just like in countdown/summit?

[lament reef]

yeah, check the tab

[burnt bone]

Yeah you can choose

[sharp folio]

Oh I didn't know that then

[mild rain]

Is normal difficulty countdown still worth doing? I dont know if my group of 3 can do higher

[burnt bone]

No you want to matchmake for challenging

[sharp folio]

Also does the blueprints get affected by the targeted loot pool in retal?

[burnt bone]

Why is @hazy steeple div2timouting me ;-;

[burnt bone]

Don’t believe so

[lament reef]

No, that’s faction dependent

[sharp folio]

Ah that's sucks

[lament reef]

true sons have one pool, hyenas have another, etc

[burnt bone]

It’s a small pool that doesn’t drop repeats as far as I know

[lament reef]

it’s pinned somewhere

[hazy steeple]

Over in #ask-td2-community

[sharp folio]

I know that, just wanted to know if I can change the blueprints using the loot pool

[hazy steeple]

TL (targeted loot) doesn't affect blueprints of any kind, just loot drops.

[sharp folio]

I think I'm gonna do the retaliations on heroic then since it gives the most agitation

[burnt bone]

Retaliations don’t give agitation

[sharp folio]

Oh wait I meant gain agitation for retaliation mb

[smoky latch]

#ask-td2-community message

[sharp folio]

I already saw the agitation %

[misty sorrel]

Whats a good 2026 Skill build, I want to start farming the coreect gear

[smoky latch]

What kind of skill build?

[misty sorrel]

i good overall build, i do like the seeker mine to much, i have Capacitor, but im down to try new stuff

[hazy steeple]

There's a pretty popular and fairly easy to put together Turret+Drone combo with Refractor going around.

[smoky latch]

Seeker spam:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bVZQzNGa3aw

As mentioned, Refactor:
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/18s3Gr5fZ3DvuA55xeBSyc_2SIusmfMULotivkSfs4xQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

[misty sorrel]

i have something to aim for, Thanks very much,

[neon gorge]

what would you guys recommend for a tank build? ı only know heartbreaker but is there more?

[golden notch]

Foundry Bulwark is decent

[junior lagoon]

you want a shield

[patent fossil]

Most of us just wouldn't recommend a tank build at all, you've got to do damage to progress in this game, less damage=slower progress

[neon gorge]

ı know ı know was just wondering about them in general. there doesn't even seem to be many build options in the game for a tank build anyways

[junior lagoon]

here is a build for you.

people here will hate this build. not only it is tanky but also use ninja bike in pve which is blasphemy

[hazy steeple]

Did you lose a bet?

[junior lagoon]

but it tanks anything that comes to your way

[patent fossil]

Pfe tank is probably the most actually useful since you can still do some damage, especially in missions with lots of elites like manhunt master missions

[hazy steeple]

I still will go to bat for the Tempest TechTank from iKia.

[lament reef]

lengmo? st elmo? artificer hive?
what is blud cooking

[neon gorge]

ikia is a build crafter?

[patent fossil]

Yes, one of the few you can trust

[neon gorge]

will check them out? assuming yt?

thank you all

[hazy steeple]

Their guides are also in the "spreadseet 2" that's 📌 pinned here.

[burnt bone]

I was actually looking at this, is it secret sauce 👀👀

[burnt bone]

YouTube is typically bad for builds

[neon gorge]

oh ı meant that as in asking if ikia was on youtube

[burnt bone]

Oh ya he is

[junior lagoon]

youtube could be good. alot of creative stuff out there, not everyboyd wants to play with the perfect damage builds

some builds will fir to your playstyle better than others

[hazy steeple]

That's not why youtube builds are mostly seen as "bad".

[hazy steeple]

I mean it is what it is, it's fun, but there are better options.

[junior lagoon]

yt builders is a large category. even if 10 percent is good, that makes alot of them

[hazy steeple]

Again, that's not really the issue with YT builds.

[burnt bone]

Problem is usually clickbait titles + lack of understanding

[hazy steeple]

YT builds are generally considered bad, because div2 is an incredibly math-heavy game, and one small issue can easily snowball.
Intentionally or not, it's very easy to mislead how a build goes.

[burnt bone]

Although tbf you can’t really blame them for clickbait, they’re at the will of the algorithm 😔😔

[hazy steeple]

e.g. if someone has a Global Event Active, or has a team, or is in Countdown, or is just incredibly familiar with the location. There's a million little factors.

[junior lagoon]

does not change what i said. at least they are trying to innovate

[hazy steeple]

The sheer amount of them I've seen with titles like "this build destroys Legendary", and the gameplay is on Normal.

Or it's Heroic, with a full support team.

[junior lagoon]

yes need to be selective

[burnt bone]

Innovation is fine, the issue is passing misleading things off as “the next big thing”

[hazy steeple]

Or heck, they are just using a different build in the video itself and it's very obvious.

[burnt bone]

The algorithm forces content creators into trying to maximize engagement at the cost of almost everything else

[hazy steeple]

Avoiding Rule 12 here, I saw a video not that long ago where they repeatedly stated that their Striker build had 100% crit chance.
The comments were all praising it, with about 3 of them noting that it was impossible with their setup to break the 60% cap.

[junior lagoon]

"This Big Alejandro Build Melts Legendary Content! "

[hazy steeple]

Breaking a bad habit is harder than just learning good ones in the first place.

[gentle lichen]

oh my god this is so satisfying
assault GE range is the same as hunter's fury proximity amp

[junior lagoon]

is it 10 meters?

[gentle lichen]

15

[rocky pagoda]

I wanna feel like John wick

[gentle lichen]

use hhf

[hazy steeple]

Watching your wife die?

oh the gun thing.

[gentle lichen]

🤨

[junior lagoon]

does assoult double the damage within 15m?

[vernal wing]

I worry about you sometimes.

[hazy steeple]

I make my own fun.

[burnt bone]

[magic pilot]

no she left and took the kids

[mint axle]

And I don't even have a wife

[idle hawk]

trying to make a tinkerer build. and i feel the firing range is being inconsistent.

would you guys suggest flatline/streamline/closer (chest) or
Killer/streamline/equalizer?
or am i way off track?

[burnt bone]

Firing range is scuffed. What does the rest of the build look like

[burnt bone]

Measured is pretty strong

[idle hawk]

trying to decide between the two

[burnt bone]

Have you considered replacing the gloves with ceska or contractors

[idle hawk]

i have. only thing that stopped me, is id HAVE to go the flatline route bc i dont have either gloves that i can change to a blue core. (i like having 2 blue cores)

i always say your not doing any damage at all if your dead, lol

[burnt bone]

I guess

But you’re also not taking any damage if your enemies are dead

[idle hawk]

thats true but i already have an all red build. i could prob drop to one blue core bc of bloodsucker

[burnt bone]

If you want

You’re losing a lot of damage by taking bloodsucker tho

[idle hawk]

true, what else do you suggest?

vigilance?

[onyx sage]

if you have a shield, vigilance is good yes

[lethal finch]

Yo, I just went to get the Handyman mask. I wanted to know—do you have a document that lists all the weapon talents?
And are there any good combinations of two talents that work well with the Handyman?

[burnt bone]

I run memento because it makes me feel safe :3 but yeah vigilance is probably the strongest

Especially with shield

[idle hawk]

vigilance with shield and drop streamline for measured?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[idle hawk]

ok, and since im dropping closer run equalizer (so i can make the 2 piece UA ill runner killer instead of flatline

[burnt bone]

Measured probably but whatever talent you want tbh

[onyx sage]

also, i'd use equalizer over closer, you get to throw out basically a useless brand, keep 3p UA and throw in something like ceska that will help your damage more

oh nvm you just said that

[burnt bone]

I think ideally you have ceska or UA backpack with vigilance

[onyx sage]

in this setup ceska is probably the best last brand

[burnt bone]

And keep gloves as UA or swap em to contractor

[onyx sage]

i don't think you go over 60% chc here

[burnt bone]

Depends on if you want the extra bullets

[idle hawk]

thanx alot guys. i might try both UA bag and ceska (if i have it).

[burnt bone]

Btw an open talent ceska back is just very nice to grind for if you don’t already have it (chc + chd)

Useful on lots of builds

[idle hawk]

100% im almost to a point where im just going to start grinding "nice to have" stuff. so ill be doing that soon

[lethal finch]

Yo, I just went to get the tinkerer mask. I wanted to know—do you have a document that lists all the weapon talents?
And are there any good combinations of two talents that work well with the tinkerer?

[flint arch]

#td2-build-advice message

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[burnt bone]

Killer and measured are pretty solid, but which weapon type

[lethal finch]

Hum AR and submachine gun

[junior lagoon]

go dark winter comes with perfect killer

full cmd mods and extra ammo and you are gonna kill assault

[lethal finch]

Exotic weapons and named weapons do not work with the tinkerer.

[junior lagoon]

vector 45 acp then

[storm magnet]

Am I lucky or what

[junior lagoon]

or or black market t821 with strained

[neon gorge]

is backfire strong enough to forgo chc and cdmg on gear and slot in hazard/bleed?

[junior lagoon]

no

[neon gorge]

yeah figrues the oppurtunity cost would be too big

[smoky latch]

That just works well with certain events or seasonal modifiers that contain HazPro. You can run a BF HazPro build if you are stubborn but we don't recommend that here

[neon gorge]

yeah not really stubborn on it ı just got it and was wondering about it is all

[smoky latch]

All good, just saying

[neon gorge]

also what bouild would you guys recommend a new player? ı know striker's ofc but nything else? a friend is picking the game back up so more of a returning player really but he didn't play for like 3 years atp

[smoky latch]

Tipping Scales with LMG is nice if you don't want to run Striker's

[neon gorge]

sure will recommend that

[smoky latch]

Bluescreen, Big Alejandro as exotic recommendations, GR9 Frenzy, MK46/M249 with Measured also not bad

[lone perch]

can shotgun and shield skill work for build?

[smoky latch]

Yes

[lone perch]

okey will try find one

[smoky latch]

Use a Grupo Sombra backpack or a Badger Tuff backpack if you want to main a shotgun. Disregard the Regulus

With this event it almost doesn't matter which shotgun you use

[lone perch]

tyy

[lone perch]

"Use a Grupo Sombra backpack or a Badger Tuff backpack"
can u target farm these items?

[solar sable]

yes

[lone perch]

okey im kinda new to game so will wait for now with it

probs can't farm it anyways atm

[smoky latch]

Check out this guide

[lone perch]

ty young man

[smoky latch]

I wish, but yw

[junior lagoon]

refactor drone/turret skill build.

none of these guys are new players. i am a new player or was

[lone perch]

what agent do I go with shotgun?

[solar sable]

wha

[lone perch]

like class

[smoky latch]

Can you explain that?

[lone perch]

or whatever they are called

[lament reef]

agent? you opened the wrong ubisoft game

[smoky latch]

There are no classes, it just depends on your builds

[lone perch]

skill tree I mean

[neon gorge]

will keep in mind

[smoky latch]

Specialization you mean

[lone perch]

yea for these 2 builds u sended me

If I main shotgun

[smoky latch]

It shows you the best recommendation and alternatives top center

[lone perch]

these ?

[smoky latch]

Yessir

You unlock those at the Quartermaster in any Base of Operations

[lone perch]

ok will check which one is best

[bright veldt]

I realize im new here.. but id like to share a build thats absolute mindblowing.. Solo ANYTHING essentially..
Momento, Belstone holster (or whatever piece), 4 part Foundry Bulwark, especially Chest. All Atts are crit chance except chest which is Crit Damage.
Crusader Shield, and Artificer Hive. Shield Splitter & Sheriff. Elmos and decent shotty works too.
Literally walking around solo in legendary basically facerolling everything.
Oh and swap 2 blue cores to red on foundry to keep damage acceptable.

[lone perch]

okii

[smoky latch]

They're all good mostly, it just depends on what complements your build best. But as you can see, there are always alternatives

So it is definitely worth (kind of necessary) to unlock them all over time

[subtle bluff]

With GE on?

[bright veldt]

GE? no i turn those off

[smoky latch]

The backpack is called Memento, dear sir

[glad pilot]

yes

[junior lagoon]

your damage should be suboptimal normally but assault helps

[bright veldt]

im at floor 45 legendary solo summit.. laughing and not really worried. it does great

[subtle bluff]

Is this a statement or a question?

[bright veldt]

No just sharing a build for any solo people that want to relax at legendary

At most you just hide for 2 seconds to recover all your armor. its so freking hilarious

[subtle bluff]

In summit sure. Leggo up there isn't bad. Go step into mission with leggo on you won't have a good time there

[bright veldt]

I use it at all 5 strongholds too bud. easy peezy

[subtle bluff]

Ya how long did it take you do to Legendary Stronghold?

[patent fossil]

We've got 2 very powerful events active at the moment (skill surge and Assault)

[bright veldt]

Solo.. about 1.5h or maybe more cause im old and slow

I disable GEs.. bad build data

[subtle bluff]

You got anything to back up claim?

No ones has finished any leggo that quick on a FB build

[bright veldt]

Im just trying to be nice though. share this really fun build ya know

Back it up.. no. i could be wrong on time too. im not really keeping track

[subtle bluff]

It doesn't work enough players has tried it in leggo and have come back to ask what's wrong.

[bright veldt]

I dont stream or capture.. again old as dirt

[flint arch]

you could have just written down the time at the end screen

[subtle bluff]

The build doesn't do enough you get overran in normal leggo mission

screenshot the finishing screen

[bright veldt]

Not true. they press sure but sherrif helps a lot. and keeping 3 red cores was the bigges thing

[magic pilot]

isnt foundary chest really bad too

also catharsis would be much better on a foundary tank

[bright veldt]

No.. omg it sounds bad, but dude.. its fantastic

35% regen.. on hits like that.. you get it all back

[subtle bluff]

FB doesn't get any DR so it just gets down pretty quick with more than few things

You say this. We know what it does we've seen for a fact FB build just falling over in leggos

[magic pilot]

also you cant revive with that setup

[bright veldt]

Thats why the C Shield and Artificer. it keeps the shields up

No revives, go hard or go home buddy lol

[magic pilot]

exactly full red mentality lol

[bright veldt]

this guy gets it

Artificer and Shield is a match made in heaven

[lament reef]

if it is working for you personally, very well

[magic pilot]

artificer and oxidizer

[bright veldt]

ohh.. that sound nasty too

[sharp folio]

Is there a solo retaliations focused build in the spreadhseet or nah?

[subtle bluff]

watch what happens

[glad pilot]

just whatever open world build u r comfortable with

[magic pilot]

negotiator and tipping scales really good. or a high end crit build

[bright veldt]

I just like the infinity shield

[flint arch]

just position well, you'll get everyone without dying instantly using a full red build as long you don't rush

[sharp folio]

Devious 4+ engi spam with turrets staring at me:

[subtle bluff]

Don't let them setup

[sharp folio]

I didn't rush and I still died to engi spam, surely I'm skill issued

[lament reef]

bluescreen negotiators is my preferred

[bright veldt]

Leggos try but it recharges too fast. Bait them to get killed by Sheriff, get close, please do

[subtle bluff]

You can find players doing retal all the time atm

[junior lagoon]

add overdogs to that and i am your best friend

[lament reef]

with overdogs yeah

[sharp folio]

I can't do that in solo with 600k crit damage max 😭

[lament reef]

the devious chungus when he sees his engineer deploy a turret (he is about to take 30% amped crit share)

[subtle bluff]

Dmg per bullet isn't the way we measure output

DPS

[bright veldt]

maybe in a group, but solo they have less healh and armor so its not that bad

[lament reef]

emp pulse?

or grenade

[sharp folio]

That doesn't help me when I'm far away from them in a open area...

[subtle bluff]

postion is the key or repostioning

[flint arch]

bluescreen and pop a sticky in the air?

[bright veldt]

emp launcher instead

[sharp folio]

I don't have it

[bright veldt]

Sad day

[sharp folio]

I struggle to do the jupiter bossfight part

[bright veldt]

What diff?

[sharp folio]

Even on hard because of how high the damage from a modified emp is

[bright veldt]

Id help if asked lol. on pc

[flint arch]

you can hide in cover when the emp is about to blast

[subtle bluff]

Your suppose to hide

[sharp folio]

At the boat part where I have to walk to it?

[bright veldt]

yeah you are. even my build cant take that to the face, and i eat leggo grenades for breakfast

[flint arch]

your build

[sharp folio]

Still I'm not gonna get emp launcher for now

[subtle bluff]

I call BS on this because no matter what stats or anything you have explosions will rip off your your shield.

[bright veldt]

look up.. i posted it. people are questioning it as they should but.. it totally works lol

[sharp folio]

Show clip of it working

[subtle bluff]

I showed one of it not...

[flint arch]

I know, and @subtle bluff is correct on this

[subtle bluff]

But you've seen mine

[bright veldt]

if it hits straight it does. but even a slight sidestep it hit armor and your good

[subtle bluff]

So misleading your "facts"

[sharp folio]

Lul

[subtle bluff]

You're not straigh eating them.

[bright veldt]

No, i do to the armor

drop the shield and eat that thing

[subtle bluff]

I have watched too many FB players complain and go down and legendary.

[bright veldt]

in 3 sec youll be fine

[subtle bluff]

Misleading our OP statement.

[sharp folio]

Anyway time to do a mistake of my life and find a retaliation build on youtube

[subtle bluff]

all the builds are in the build hub

[bright veldt]

If you cant operate this, its a skill issue. I should not have to explain how you faceroll with this if you just tried it

[flint arch]

don't fall to the dark side

[sharp folio]

I'm already suffering mentally too much to even think at this point 😭

[subtle bluff]

or use this one too https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nOwUSECa-1iLhET-mW04u6oMBdIdMjFjB2Ie25ziEA/edit?ouid=116077497341513434163&usp=docs_home&ths=true

[sharp folio]

What's tempest?

[subtle bluff]

never said I don't know how to do it. I am saying your statemates are misleading.

[flint arch]

automatic exotic pistol

[subtle bluff]

Use the Gearsheet

Everything in the game is in there. (other than the newest of stuff atm)

[bright veldt]

Well i do expect people to kinda know how to do that. Were all builders here, you should know it has its flaws but, if you play right and smart youll do just fune

[sharp folio]

Will there be a big al build in the future?

[subtle bluff]

Not really. It's not that special of a weapon.

[subtle bluff]

No not everyone in here is a build. This is the #td2-build-advice we give advice.

[sharp folio]

Also how do refactor builds work?

[subtle bluff]

As in?

[broken edge]

you use your skills to heal others by doing damage

[sharp folio]

Like, what is their role?

[sharp folio]

Oh

[bright veldt]

Ookay maybe thats true too. Ill try to be clearer about it if i post more builds. Im just trying to help though. No ill intent.
The setup kinda plays itself imo
But in all fairness anything below leggo has little chance of even damaging you for more than the 10s.
Just trying to help my fellow solo players

[subtle bluff]

Being very blunt dunno how to say this better way. Sharing a build here then trying to show it off without proof or very good explanations of how it works does very little. Especially triangle it can do a legendary which legendary is some of the hardest content in this game.

[lament reef]

what difficulty are you trying to do retals on

[sharp folio]

Heroic

[lament reef]

no shame in lowering it

[subtle bluff]

Another fact, almost anything is viable in solo heroic but doesn't mean it's good.

[sharp folio]

Do I get exotic blueprints/exotic caches from for example challenging?

[bright veldt]

Yes and after 45 floors i figured.. hey.. this actually works. I should tell someone

[flint arch]

lower chance but yes

[sharp folio]

Honestly just blueprints are mainly needed for me

[subtle bluff]

and like I meantioned before leggo summit isn't anywhere as hard as missing leggo

I can go put on a FB and play it well by no means I'm getting thru all of leggo on it.

[bright veldt]

yeah. i know. summit is more white tusk "in the wild" not preset encounters

[flint arch]

well you claimed the build can "solo legendary", not "solo summit legendary"

the former implies you can bring it into a legendary stronghold

[bright veldt]

i figure legendary is legendary. not like they hit any less hard

[flint arch]

and you say you already know this

preset encounters are more difficult than randomly generated ones, the fact you say this implies you already know, so why not differentiate between the two

[bright veldt]

Because more im referring to the ability to eat that kind of damage and shrug it off. where it comes from is irrelevant.

[burnt bone]

I think the main issue is you’re claiming smth that others have repeatedly found to not be true, and backing up your claim with nothing but a “trust me bro”

[subtle bluff]

FB walking into a solo DUA first section on leggo always has issues to deal with that I cannot do solo with a ton of backpedaling.

[burnt bone]

I think dying in heroic retaliation is as much of a knowledge check as it is a build issue

[bright veldt]

well sorry i dont have a bunch of fancy knowledge of how to capture so people can see it. im old as dirt. im lucky i can play the game at all at my age

[burnt bone]

You have to learn where the good spots to hold are, and where to avoid getting swarmed

[flint arch]

extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

[knotty flicker]

how yall feel about lady death?

[sharp folio]

I have no knowledge fr 😃

[bright veldt]

Momento. FB and a Belstone. Takes 2 seconds to setup.. my lord are people that lazy

[lament reef]

nvidia and ryzen both have recording built into their GPUs, you could use that

[flint arch]

Anyone can just say "My 6 pc Foundry Bulwark build absolutely DESTROYS Legendary in 0.005 seconds", you need to back it up

[bright veldt]

6 parts is too much. you need that 4%regen

[flint arch]

congratulations, you didn't point out gear sets do nothing beyond 4pc

[burnt bone]

No one is blaming you for anything, it just starts to be an issue when you become combative while doing absolutely nothing to prove the strength of your build

[bright veldt]

theres already a yt video of a guy doing it with a lengmo mask but its not good enough. i fixed it. God Mode solo legendary build.. something.. it was a good setup but.. it was ninjabike.. yuk

swapping the mask for belstone and momento.. yes.. much better

This way its not 1% regen its 4%. Momento is flat damage buff to so Equalizer could go for the 4th FB part. Pust 30% tech eff.. which translates to better regen of the shield. You loose nothing, and actually gain tons more survivablity than that guys version of it.

[subtle bluff]

At least you know it's not all blue is good.

Also I'm fair sure there other near your age.

Div2 is funny on age

[bright veldt]

no its like 3 red, 4 blue, 1 skill, and technician to get the shield to T6. All atributs to crit chance.. its trynin to fake dps at the same time

[burnt bone]

Doesn’t memento get it to t6 without technician

[flint arch]

depends on how many blues you have

[burnt bone]

But actually I have no idea how shields work I just thought it was blues + yellows ;-;

[flint arch]

memento gives you 2 shield tiers by virtue of having a blue and yellow core

[bright veldt]

exactly

with tech that 3 out the gate

[burnt bone]

Ohh wait wait my b I forgot you were counting memento

In the 3 4 1

[bright veldt]

yeah. you change 2 of the FB to red cores

[burnt bone]

Do you have a picture of what you’re using? (I’m lame so I just take pictures of my screen on my phone :))

[bright veldt]

That way it doesn drop off too far with damage

sure.. ill try

[languid shard]

for this harvest build, would i benefit more from 3 pieces of imminence armaments, or would the difference be unnoticeable?

[smoky latch]

You'll benefit

[flint arch]

#ask-td2-community message

[bright veldt]

If only my hands would cooperate with the camera now lol

[smoky latch]

Use the built-in windows tools

[bright veldt]

Windows.. sorry im Arch

[smoky latch]

Ah ok

[languid shard]

is it a v noticeable diff?

[smoky latch]

I cannot present you any numbers for a comparison but I noticed a difference with 3pcs IA so that's what I run by now

[sharp folio]

I got back to back st elmo blueprint and backfire from challenging retaliation 😭

[burnt bone]

Nice

[sharp folio]

From a kill squad to be specific

[flint arch]

kill squads have a significantly higher chance to drop a blueprint than completion

[smoky latch]

Perhaps @subtle bluff can give more info on this

[flint arch]

as in, on Heroic, you are basically guaranteed to get one if you defeat the mill squad, whereas completion is 50%

[burnt bone]

Oh wait is it kill squads that have 95% drop on heroic

[subtle bluff]

I mean... I've evver used IA... I just use HHF... IDK.. sorry..

[burnt bone]

That makes more sense why I’ve missed 2-3 heroic completion bps in a row haha

[sharp folio]

I didn't get 1 on my solo heroic run so not 100%

[smoky latch]

Fair

[subtle bluff]

HHF is too strong to me.

IA yes will do more since it bring's up HH

[smoky latch]

Aye

[bright veldt]

@burnt bone as requested. All atts are CHC. Chest has CHD just to keep CHD above 100%. Mods are 1 CHC, 2 CHD.
Took 2 seconds to rebuild that dudes idea. And its smashing on everything i go to. like i could be eating a sandwich and not die.

[solar sable]

CC ≠ CHC
CD ≠ CHD
Totally different abbreviations

[sharp folio]

Should I use lexington or st elmo for my striker?

[solar sable]

you choose, I'd go Lexi w/Killer

[hearty owl]

I’m sure it’s smashing lol 😂

[bright veldt]

edited. ty

[sharp folio]

I might go with st elmo tbh

Feels like a safer option to me

[solar sable]

it's not a bad option, it has a built in CC talent, amazing Handling and a big ass mag

[sharp folio]

That's some of the reasons why I want to go for it

[bright veldt]

you laugh till you try it yourself and see

[subtle bluff]

@bright veldt BTW the current Seasonal Event cannot be turned off.

[undone quartz]

this a good build u think?

[bright veldt]

which event? i turned off Ambush. Today i havent looked. Being reset day theres probably a new one.

[junior lagoon]

Just completed dcu legendary with my blue regen build. Lowest damage by far, only 19 kills, terrible performance lol

[flint arch]

lol

[knotty flicker]

But did you die

[hearty owl]

That’s spectacular

[junior lagoon]

exactly

[hearty owl]

You don’t die on a full red either so

[sharp folio]

Also how much ammo does st elmo has in the mag? Idk if I can check it

[knotty flicker]

Doesn't matter how much damage as long as you live

[flint arch]

70+1

[junior lagoon]

0 death tanked the last boss like a champ

[hearty owl]

Especially on DUA the easiest legendary

[sharp folio]

Oh nice

[knotty flicker]

Alright I got a situation I could use some advice, my build is giving me some trouble

[thorny crown]

im building a striker elmo set, do i run crit chance on gear and add crit dmg or the other way around ?

[flint arch]

#td2-build-advice message

[knotty flicker]

Im still fairly new, SHD 280. I have been running Pestalence from the moment I got it early in my game. I run Pesti, Negotiators, and (when rng stops being a pain) over dogs.

I can clear any content on challenging and about 35% of all content on Heroic.

Should I keep with this build or should I drop presti for a different gun to focus my build around?

[thorny crown]

cheers

[hearty owl]

Drop Pesti, keep Nego

[flint arch]

pesti has low base damage

[hearty owl]

Run an AR instead, even a rifle works

[knotty flicker]

Drop presti for what though, everything i slot in feels like it preforms worse

[hearty owl]

Literally any AR will perform better idk how to tell you

Just by numbers alone

[flint arch]

nego build

[hearty owl]

Didn’t Raucey make one too

I like that one but yeah that works too

[flint arch]

older game version

the one I linked is from Y7S2, Raucey's version is from Y6S3

It's missing Overdogs for one, something that shouldn't be overlooked considering you can take advantage of Nego to deal 30% more damage to enemies in tier 1-2

[knotty flicker]

What AR would yall recommend then, rn I only have St emlo and chameleon for AR

[flint arch]

St. Elmo's

Chameleon technically deals more damage, but has SMG range and accuracy and is not very consistent

[knotty flicker]

What makes Elmo better than Pesti? Im missing some kind of knowledge it seems

[sharp folio]

Should I reroll this backfire?

[hearty owl]

Built in cc and high sustain damage, making it better for Heroic especially since you aren’t on Striker so you’re dumping more bullets into enemies

[flint arch]

If you don't have a copy, keep it for now
Otherwise reroll, look for DTTOC

[subtle bluff]

Elmo reloads quicker too

Pesti isn't good generally because it has no Crit mods.

So any build that has it on is generally Crit starved

[sharp folio]

No copy so yeah

[knotty flicker]

I play further back so reloads aren't normally an issue too often. I learned very quickly to not be upfront when I have no blue mods

[hearty owl]

Wow you’ve learned more than the average player then

I congratulate you

[knotty flicker]

I got shotgunned in the face one too many times

[subtle bluff]

Pesti isn't great a normal build for mentioned and is only good when the build leans into it the talent.

[flint arch]

coco

[knotty flicker]

Alright, ill need to change my mods rq

Im way over capped on crit chance, over dogs or coyotes mask for Elmos?

[subtle bluff]

To reference this is what a meta build does and it's DPS.

Not saying you need to play this way nor what you need to do just a reference

[subtle bluff]

Follow above on that.

[vernal gazelle]

LETS GOOO

[smoky latch]

Use it with Tipping Scales or not at all :p

[vernal gazelle]

what about striker?

there are probably better alternatives to use with striker

[flint arch]

you actually have to hit the enemies for you to get stacks with Striker, TS gives stacks based on firing time

[vernal gazelle]

tipping scales could be nice tho

i just read its description

[flint arch]

also BK, despite not needing reloads, still does less damage overall compared to the meta LMGs

[vernal gazelle]

but for consistency when using tipping scales it might be nice

while others need to reload you can have the perk up more

[cerulean smelt]

there's only 1 use for Bullet King that i heard of and it's within a raid. think Iron Horse?

[flint arch]

I think it's DH to distract one of the bots?

[buoyant perch]

Old strat, but yeah

IH sniper

[flint arch]

Oh right, I forgot

I saw it recently when I did my first IH raid

Do they just oxy chem them now

[hearty owl]

You look so tough

[cerulean smelt]

can we believe they're the young keener?

[hearty owl]

They preplace an EMP on the door to prevent the snipers from coming out and then Oxi it to make the key spawn on the nearest player (since the snipers are considered out of bounds if they don’t come out)

[vernal gazelle]

☺️

[flint arch]

Noted

I think I saw it when I was watching a GCROCK video on IH

[grand mason]

where can i get the chainkiller chestplate?

[hearty owl]

Target farm Walker and Harris in Countdown

[sharp folio]

Should I keep this on st elmo? Looks kind of decent to me

[hearty owl]

It’s fine if you don’t have the mats to reroll but you want dttooc

[vocal cedar]

hi there is no hotshot location farming today ?

[sharp folio]

Yeah I'm pretty sure I don't have it unfortunately

[smoky latch]

By now there are so many brand and gear sets that not all are available every day in the open world. However you can target farm loot in the Summit, Countdown and through Retaliations

[sharp folio]

I can't even reconfigure it lol

[vocal cedar]

can you explain how it works with retaliations please?

[vernal gazelle]

what are retaliations?

[smoky latch]

If you bother one of the DC factions enough they will "retaliate" and take over a district that you have to re-take. It's a bit tougher than the usual Control Point farming but very rewarding

[sharp folio]

My striker chd/chc stats skyrocketed with st elmo, nice

That was a good trade off ~~for ~~ instead* of lexington

[smoky latch]

Once you have one ready it will look like this

Only one can be active at a time. As you can see I have two more at 99% that I could do after the active one

[vernal gazelle]

ahh

and you can even select what loot you want i gotta try this

[smoky latch]

You will collect activity specific rewards that you can use to craft really great rewards. You will also collect exotic crafting blueprints

[burnt bone]

Don’t have the exotic components?

[smoky latch]

If you select TL via the Summit for instance, it will also be active for Retaliations

[sharp folio]

No I just don't have reconfiguration thing in the blueprints vendor

[smoky latch]

And you can change it on the fly while doing Retaliations

[burnt bone]

Did you build it from a blueprint?

[sharp folio]

Yes

[smoky latch]

Short guide

Long guide

@vernal gazelle @vocal cedar

[burnt bone]

Huh it should show up in Inaya’s shop, did you scroll down

[sharp folio]

I scrolled fully down and nothing

[burnt bone]

Have you relogged since crafting elmo

[sharp folio]

Yes

[burnt bone]

Have you recalibrated an exotic before?

[smoky latch]

Can you take a screenshot of the menu you are in when you're looking for it?

[sharp folio]

I did

[sharp folio]

Can't I'm on my phone now

Maybe there's a glitch where crafted exotics don't show up reconfigure options in the vendor?

[smoky latch]

You got the crafting blueprint and crafted one? It didn't drop for you?

[sharp folio]

Yes

[hexed steppe]

Crafting much faster than farming i think at this point

Retaliation drops blueprints like candy

[smoky latch]

Apparently you don't get the reconfiguration blueprint when you craft an exotic, at least that is what several players reported

I cannot confirm that, I just heard about that

[sharp folio]

Yeah I guess that's the issue

[burnt bone]

For exotics besides overdogs?

That’s the only one I’ve heard about

[smoky latch]

For any exotic you craft

No that is a different issue. You don't get the reconfig blueprint when it drops, at all. Same for Shroud

[smoky latch]

I am not sure if that is intended by the devs or not. It wouldn't make sense if it is intende but I have no clue

[burnt bone]

Where did you see this

[sharp folio]

I will ping both of you tomorrow with a screenshot of my reconfigure options

[smoky latch]

All over this discord for instance

Anyway, gotta dip now. Cya later

[hexed steppe]

Shroud was a known issue with no reconfig unless it was obtained from the season track first

[burnt bone]

Yeah shroud and overdogs specifically, was was curious if there were any other reports besides those 2

[hexed steppe]

Not afaik

[burnt bone]

Yeah idk just check when you can and take a pic of your exotic recalibration and inaya menus

[sharp folio]

Gotcha

[hexed steppe]

Missing reconfig could just be a delay in availability. I've seen dyes and the like also be delayed more than a day before they show up

[rancid pendant]

this good enough re-roll?

[subtle bluff]

yea but CHC is what you need on it

[rancid pendant]

damn alr thanks

[rancid pendant]

idk if i should keep it then change 1 crit dmg to chance on one of my gears to make it to 55-60% CHC or reroll it.

[subtle bluff]

You should keep it. You can reroll it.

"remake"

It will still work as a weapon but it has no Crit mods unlike the rest of the weapons out there so in turn you need to change your stats around for it

[gleaming zephyr]

if I take a setup into the shooting range, what would be a good dps output for a hybrid gun build capable of playing heroic and master difficulty content? I've got a Dare lmg pulse heartbreaker setup that can reach 5 mil dps in the shooting range that I'm having a fun time w/

is it good enough to run the legendary/master difficulty stuff for the sheriff?

[solar sable]

The DPS meter from the Shooting Range is useless and inaccurate, don't use it

[gleaming zephyr]

good to know!

[solar sable]

Hybrid in what way? Yellow/red...?

Show us the build itself, would be great to see it

[subtle bluff]

Use the one in the Pinned Messages

[gleaming zephyr]

still in the early stages of optimization, I need to grind for more red sub-perks on the armor pieces and will probably swap coyote for overdogs when I finally get one. but yeah it's a tanky dps w/ some CC

the Dare LMG w/ perfect flatline is the main weapon

[subtle bluff]

What's the blue minor stats?

You're missing out on good DPS

[flint arch]

I think they said they're trying to replace them with red stats

[gleaming zephyr]

for some reason Heartbreaker set only seems to be droping w/ armor as the main stat so I need to grind alot more drops to replace the hazard protections and armor on kill etc for crit

[flint arch]

HB only ever drops with armor as its main attribute

It's harder to farm than, say, Striker

[buoyant perch]

Yeah it's intended

[gleaming zephyr]

therefore I gotta spend the recalibration use on swapping that for dmg

[flint arch]

On top of that the minor attribute is also weighted to be blue

[gleaming zephyr]

I'm a big fan of pulse and having that info so I probably will grind out all those unicorn rolls

isn't there a holster or backpack that also grants even more amplified dmg off pulse?

[flint arch]

tbh it's not really unicorn, I got a full set of okay red minor attribute heartbreaker pieces from a few challenging countdown runs

[gleaming zephyr]

that's good to hear!

[flint arch]

if you want real unicorn, try red lengmo with crit

that'll tear you to pieces

[junior lagoon]

obliterate as well, right?

[buoyant perch]

Glass

[wispy hollow]

Which is no longer needed, unless for posterity

[hexed steppe]

Glass has no ramp

Oh this is for a hb setup.. hb chest

[flint arch]

oh wait I just noticed something

swap out the bag (and by extension coyote) for a vigilance backpack if you want to deal more damage

[buoyant perch]

No, conversation switched lengmo by then

[hexed steppe]

Ok glass 🍻

[hexed steppe]

Too bad youre maining the lmg. A shield in place of that firefly would be strong af with the blue cores and the event skilltiers

I would memento if going for a tanky feel

[gleaming zephyr]

Is there an AR w/ perfect flatline?

[subtle bluff]

no

[hexed steppe]

Kingbreaker

[subtle bluff]

I mean yes... But it REALLY bad.

[gleaming zephyr]

Oof. The Dare is really really good haha

[hexed steppe]

You dont actually need flatline tbh. You can run measured or killer

If you use tech class you also dont need to use pulse

But linked laser doesnt fit on dare or any small underbarrel rail

[gleaming zephyr]

Oh true! It's an smg thing right?

[burnt bone]

Not just smg, it’s tied to the smg branch in their spec tree but you can use it on basically any weapon with an underbarrel slot

But chat I feel so vindicated, I knew heartbreaker wasn’t stacking properly and Ikia just said the same thing in one of his videos

[smoky latch]

The LLP is also acting funky sometimes

[burnt bone]

It honestly makes me not want to run heartbreaker even after I farmed a full red set ;-;

[buoyant perch]

Yeah full red hb is just a worse full red 200 stack striker anyway, there was never any point running it

[warm merlin]

Should I put crit hit chance, damage or headshot damage on my armour?

[solar sable]

Depends on the build

[warm merlin]

Full DPS build

[solar sable]

If it's a DPS build, CHC and CHD
If it's a one shot build, HSD and WH

[slate wedge]

works like a charm

[hexed steppe]

Against tos and not allowed to be posted here

[slate wedge]

oh shit my bad

mea culpa

[molten lodge]

Gg buddy banned for life

[warm merlin]

Thanks

[slate wedge]

not again

[hexed steppe]

Verbal is enough I think

[gleaming zephyr]

Striker is so boooorriiiiinnngg I wish it wasn't so good

[solar sable]

Go PVGC, boring is not an option for it

[gleaming zephyr]

Pvgc? Is that a content creator or a gamemode?

[solar sable]

Perfect Vigilance & Perfect Glass Cannon

[flint arch]

this

[slate wedge]

didn’t even know it was against ToS tbh

[subtle bluff]

IS it tho? Maybe only playing strikers but it does so much.

[gleaming zephyr]

Idk I threw together a 4 piece striker and it just felt like it dumbed the game down. Too easy to be too powerful but also I'm biased towards low tier content. Wasn't even doing heroic countdown at the time

[hexed steppe]

Circumvents a game mechanic. Better safe than sorry

[slate wedge]

[subtle bluff]

Solo Heroic Retal it's fun

[onyx sage]

you'll need it for the hardest content sometimes... but even then striker most of the time isn't the best loadout

[solar sable]

it's never Determined.

[storm topaz]

Is lady death smg worth it?

[grand girder]

not really anymore, just has some niche uses

quickstep made it pretty obsolete

[storm topaz]

What's the best smg ?

[grand girder]

debatable but for me its backfire

[solar sable]

exotic? Backfire

[storm topaz]

Where to find it ?

[grand girder]

targeted loot pool

[solar sable]

anywhere SMG TL

[grand girder]

also can drop from exo caches so countdown will be your best bet achieveing both at once

[storm topaz]

Thank you all

[subtle bluff]

There is generally no Best overall thing in the game due to a lot different things

[storm topaz]

Am gonna use Oxpecker with a shield 🛡

[flint arch]

oxpecker is bad

[storm topaz]

But I like it

[jade tulip]

Made a TP and CoCo Pesti loadout. Any other recommendations? I doubt I'll ever raid again so no need for super niche stuff like builds to oneshot certain bosses.

[subtle bluff]

It's pretty bad vs other ways and things to do it.

[subtle bluff]

You can just delete TP... what are you looking for..

[jade tulip]

Just random interesting yet effective builds.

[subtle bluff]

Nego, TS, Lengmo...

HHF, Hotdog...

[jade tulip]

I meant I made a TS, not TP. Sorry

[subtle bluff]

ok good. Another discord server is saying it's not bad... 😐

[jade tulip]

Also have a negos, it's been one of my favourite sets for ages. I'll look into Lengmo. Already have an HHF

Didn't know there was a side discord but it doesn't surprise me since there are no VC channels anymore. I remember when tons of people gathered down there and it was very easy to find a group. Used to be an incredibly active server in terms of VC

Also considering a second Countdown build. Using a tanky striker with smg and scorpio. It's boring.

[subtle bluff]

Blue OD, it's in the build hub

[jade tulip]

Understood. I've been looking more at iKia's stuff since someone told me to

[subtle bluff]

ikia has a ton of stuff. They have a idea and purpose but to me some is... kind idk i don't like some of but I'm very about a meta thought mostly do being on Master/Leggo content.

[jade tulip]

The ones I lifted from there seem almost the same as the ones on the main spreadsheet. I suppose I looked for the more meta stuff.

In regards to the HB solo Techtank, I assume Coyote's could be replaced by an Overdogs. Also, I'm really enjoying the Elmo.

Having CC on a decently high DPS weapon is fun.

[burnt bone]

Yeah the spreadsheet will have lots of good stuff

[jade tulip]

I'm aware. It's a very old spreadsheet and I'm glad it's still being updated.

[burnt bone]

Pretty much everything on it is up to date

Oh gotcha yeah I agree

[neon gorge]

what's the best way to apply a status to kicksstart OD?

[buoyant perch]

Foam, nades, banshee pulse, etc. whatever you like

[neon gorge]

ımma just keep using foam then helps against hunters in countdown too

[flint arch]

hunters jam your skills constantly, it's likely that you won't have much of a chance to foam them

[vocal cedar]

hi someone got a link to a good build playing rifle or precision rifle with hotshot and the item that replicates 50% damage on another target please?

[magic pilot]

There's a hazpro foam build in the sheets

[flint arch]

i know, i used it before, but if you're using OD safe to assume you're not running hazpro

[magic pilot]

This with turmoil

[magic pilot]

Should have no problem with keeping OD rounds on hunters, marked enemies should die fast

[flint arch]

just pointing out that foam without hazpro isn't that useful against hunters

[neon gorge]

you get one out a couple of times but yeah practically no skill against those guys

[magic pilot]

None of the skills will be very useful

[neon gorge]

though there is genuinely so many people running elmo ı get my OD back from shock rounds

[vocal cedar]

what are these blue pieces which quality is it?

[magic pilot]

Gearset

Green, just a colorblind setting

[vocal cedar]

oh ok ^^

[junior lagoon]

Probably not a surprise but turrent drone is very strong next 2 days

Legendary summit ez mode

[magic pilot]

A red build is still going to be stronger and much faster

[burnt bone]

Erm actually L + ratio

[junior lagoon]

What i like is refactor healing is also ip

So not squishy anymore

Squishy but recovering quickly is a better wors

[magic pilot]

Gunner heals me

[civic meteor]

What’s the drop rate of the salvo?

[flint arch]

like any other named item

[burnt bone]

It drops

[smoky latch]

Depends on your sacrifices for lootcifer

[civic meteor]

Real

Just gotta spam count down I guess

[marble maple]

For full red builds like tipping scales, do you just run banshee pulse + reviver hive? I've seen some ppl run repair drone but at skill tier 0/1 it isn't doing anything

[subtle bluff]

There's almost no right or wrong skill wise. Figure what helps you is important.

[burnt bone]

Pulse, foam, banshee, shield, reviver, emp sticky

There’s a bunch

[hazy steeple]

Shame none of them were prodigies.

[solar sable]

My favorites are Decoy and EMP sticky

[burnt bone]

Oh yeah and decoy

[junior lagoon]

Reviver for sure other depends i have shield, decoy etc

[marble maple]

with tipping scales i can't use the shield that I'll normally use with 6 red core strikers so Im tryna decide between banshee or decoy

[junior lagoon]

In pvp i like stinger hive

Drop it where extraction rope is anyone trying to cut is wasy target

[marble maple]

I'm mainly pve player, rn Im running reviver hive, I'm tryna see if repair drone is more useful. Sometimes I swear banshee doesnt last as long as I need it to

[subtle bluff]

both?

[junior lagoon]

Try decoy or shield

[subtle bluff]

on LMG they can't

[junior lagoon]

Lmg yes

[subtle bluff]

You cannot use a Shield with a LMG.

[marble maple]

Already running reviver hive for oopsies

[zealous thistle]

what is like the best 2 abilities to have

[subtle bluff]

There is no "best"

[zealous thistle]

or skills

[zealous thistle]

ok

[hazy steeple]

@zealous thistle Are you looking for div1 or div2?

and which platform?

[junior lagoon]

Turret and Drone lol

Any Alejandro builds? I hear people use tipping scales

[solar sable]

TS and Strikers, amazing isn't it?

[smoky latch]

TS for sure

[hexed steppe]

mortar and emp sticky

[civic meteor]

How much armour does someone really need

[burnt bone]

None

[atomic turtle]

As much as you're comfortable with. You can easily play the game with no core armor rolls. As long as you know proper positioning and how to avoid taking damage, you'll be fine.

That said, armor rolls really won't help you a lot in the long run. They buy you an extra second or two out of cover when everything is targeting you, but you're not losing anything by skipping out on it.

Some builds do use armor rolls to scale certain buffs like Memento's bonus armor from trophies, but that's not really a necessity.

[civic meteor]

What I’m kinda saying

I’m hanging around 934k armour rn and on challenging it’s perfect on heroic I do die sometimes but not horribly

I haven’t maxed out anything either tho

[atomic turtle]

That's fine. The only thing you need in Division 2 is a cohesive build that synergizes well, and optimal game sense, which means picking your fights, choosing your cover, how to dance with the AI, and learning the playstyle.

[civic meteor]

Right

In your opinion should I use spotter or obliterate?

[atomic turtle]

Maxed out rolls aren't a necessity, they certainly help, but not as much as you'd think. As for your question, I typically prefer Obliterate.

I'm biased toward Crit builds, tho.

Spotter seems like something useful for like... the Heartbreaker Gear Set.

If you're going to use spotter, that's what I'd use it with anyway. That + Flatline on the weapon with the technician spec for the pulse laser.

[civic meteor]

Im using a backfire striker build rn

Trying to decide weather I wanna use like pulse or a defender drone

Sorry fixer drone

[flint arch]

no, HB chest is BiS for HB

[atomic turtle]

That's what I was thinking right? He asked specifically about spotter and the first thing that came to mind was HB.

[shy willow]

Spotter just isn't as good as something like glass or oblit

Or in the case of HB, the chest

[atomic turtle]

Pretty much.

[flint arch]

the one thing it feels like it would be useful with, it turns out to be not

[atomic turtle]

[flint arch]

I just feel like HB has too many limitations

[atomic turtle]

This is the hastily put together build I made but wow this just looks awful.

[gleaming zephyr]

The Dare lmg works pretty well in my experience but I've heard the kingbreaker kinda sucks

[flint arch]

According to this guide, BP talent should be Vigil for max damage

[gleaming zephyr]

Yeah it's the chest piece that's none-negotiable for hb

[atomic turtle]

I like how that guide still uses Coyote's.

[flint arch]

If you're going for max damage, HB's bonus armor at max gives you like 2 bullets worth of breathing room before you lose your Vigilance for 4 seconds

At that point, why not just use Striker lmao

[shy willow]

Id like it more if you didn't have to drop stacks to build up your bonus armour after losing it

[flint arch]

Yeah that's the other thing

[shy willow]

It's basically striker lite

[flint arch]

The fact that you can only get the armor by gaining bonus stacks means you have a limited amount of bonus armor (i.e. leeway until your vigilance breaks) while you're at max stacks

So if you position badly and lose all of it, congratulations, you are now using a worse Striker with Vigilance

On top of that, since you're essentially forced to run Technician spec, no AoK

So good luck relying on the miniscule amount of bonus armor you might gain from slowly regaining dropped stacks while you're health gated

[atomic turtle]

Well... remember when HB was giga strong and everyone was like "Hey this should probably get nerfed" and the devs just kinda went "Nah it's fine, nothing wrong with it." But players insisted, "Dog, this sht too stronk." And HB is all everyone used for like several weeks until the Devs finally said, "Ok maybe it's a little strong."

[flint arch]

Instead of being able to slowly build back up with Striker w/ Gunner spec, thus not needed armor plates as much

I mean, I guess you could use an AoK mod on there, but then we're back to sacrificing damage

[atomic turtle]

HB on release was something else. That shit was monstrous. It was just... lol, lmao even.

[flint arch]

I wasn't there so idk lol

[cerulean smelt]

i definitely remember that

[atomic turtle]

Ok so you know how the talent is an amp but each stack is additive onto it self?

[flint arch]

it was multiplicative?

[atomic turtle]

Well on Release, the amp stacks multiplied on each other.

So it was like... 70% more DPS than the meta red builds at the time.

[flint arch]

what the hell

[atomic turtle]

[flint arch]

"Nothing wrong with it", they said

"It's a little strong", they said

[cerulean smelt]

think they were confident in their coding

[atomic turtle]

Bro it was so obvious the devs just didn't bother to play test the fkin thing, oml.

[flint arch]

Not even 1 second was spent QA testing

[gleaming zephyr]

Does ongoing directive + sadist work better than hb + flatline? I guess it would just losing the bonus armor

And the tactical info of seeing ppl

[cerulean smelt]

ongoing is just more direct. no need to pulse and works with any specializations

[atomic turtle]

Here's the thing though, corrupt. Because HB was so strong and it was all that was ever used for those first couple of weeks, the effect really amplified since every enemy was just constantly pulsed, and every match was just a sweatfest of who could kill which NPC the fastest before hitting max stacks. lmfao Everyone using HB was basically getting free amp damage from the amount of pulsing going on.

[gleaming zephyr]

So it's not necessarily better then? Because I really like having that visibility

[smoky latch]

I remember the grind for a 10% PulseRes mod for DZ so HB players couldn't get stacks on you

[atomic turtle]

That shit was funny af bro. omg.

[smoky latch]

That was when SysCor was still good

The HB nerf hit hard tho

[atomic turtle]

Bro, I'll be damned if the balance was any good but holy shit was it funny as shit and to this day I still get a kick out of it.

I really don't know how that set made it past QA as it was.

[flat arch]

recently hit lvl 40 running striker and elmo, do i need to get my striker gear all red or is it ok for some of the gear pieces to not be all red?

[atomic turtle]

In typical massive fashion, yes.

[smoky latch]

Apparently the multiplicative stacks were never intended :p

[cerulean smelt]

if you want maximum damage all red's is ideal

[civic meteor]

Is this a bug?