td2-build-advice

[cerulean smelt]

you can look up dienakakim on youtube, he does a lot of legendary runs and see if you find some pointers you can use to get through those

[hearty owl]

@onyx sage is a noob

[smoky latch]

ToastyXGod as well, he also made guides for legendary solo

[frail halo]

Yes a Noob. Meanwhile 1 month ago

[cerulean smelt]

<-had dien carry me through legendary zoo which i thought i've done before but got the prize at the end of it 😹

[onyx sage]

nah he's right

[smoky latch]

Lmao

[frail halo]

Lol 😂

Ik it’s a joke but still it’s funny

I’ve never completed a legendary mission in division 2 maybe one day

[buoyant perch]

I bet you die in lego more than all of us combined

[onyx sage]

exactly, hence noob

[hexed steppe]

it utilizes stinger hive and btsu actually

[buoyant perch]

you need some armor sir
shield too, preferably the big one

[frail halo]

Stupid question but is hotshot not a good build for legendary capital building?

[cerulean smelt]

oh my bad, guess i'm the only one that uses clusters with my mortar 😹

[onyx sage]

it works fine in there

[buoyant perch]

I use to clear the first few areas just fine, striker from the rooftop onward

[frail halo]

Really I must be too bad

[buoyant perch]

no it's just difficult 😿

[cerulean smelt]

more of a not knowledgable enough

[frail halo]

Because if I peak I just get beamed by the assult guys and I can’t get into the building I tried all day yesterday for 5hrs

I made som progress got to right before the big machine gun area and then I died

[cerulean smelt]

think once you learn whre they spawn from so you can prepar you'll probably have less issues

[buoyant perch]

you have to run in and start at the fence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA6SE4ynnxM

[hazy steeple]

im now picturing dien being buried in an alalanche of Lego, thank you.

[buoyant perch]

or the raised platform in front of the fence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEN7O7eto5U

[frail halo]

Yea I’ve been hiding behind the excavator or whatever the truck is that’s near the entrance of the mission and cheesing enemies headshots from the glass window and it works but it’s slow as hell and enemies move to not peak especially since I’m hard scoping since they can’t shoot at me anyways

[buoyant perch]

you skip the dogs and chunga if you run in

[hearty owl]

28:46 surely we can do better…

🙂

[onyx sage]

26:16 bro

[hearty owl]

Oh was going off that screenshot

Is that solo record

[onyx sage]

ye

[hearty owl]

Are you still running it

[frail halo]

Really huh. I’ve also been running recon drone u know the drone u get from the sniper specialization with revive hive so

[buoyant perch]

I run decoy and revival hive. Decoy is a must for the clear.

[cerulean smelt]

you missed out the fun modifier where that was really effective

[solar sable]

sub 26 when

[hearty owl]

He’s too old for that I fear..

[frail halo]

Well Ik revive hive is a definite u have to have. But idk I like the recon drone because when the wether in the game makes it hard to see the enemies the drone helps a lot. Like the graphics update idk why but it makes it 100x harder to see people when theirs any type of fog or glare. An im console currently so I can’t turn it off to anything so yay

[frail halo]

Really which modifier was that?

[onyx sage]

i retired

[cerulean smelt]

i forget, but when you pulsed things they were set on fire 😹

[frail halo]

Wow that does sound fun

[buoyant perch]

well you have to change one of the two for decoy, at least for the first area to run in

[frail halo]

Yea

Ig I’ll run into the middle area because at least then it’s harder for them to flank me I think

Because I won’t be near any spawns and I have the obiwan Strats

[buoyant perch]

yeah Dien started with that area too

[frail halo]

I am a speedrunner but I have no interest in speedrunning this game that sounds like h3ll ngl

[cerulean smelt]

nods speed running feels like the game is a job with no pay

[frail halo]

I use to love this one game. now I hate it because the combat sections are h3ll they are h3ll I just can’t. casually is just so much more fun

A this game is so I won’t say grindy but has systems that gives a fun grind that I don’t want to ruin it by speedrunning. I mean maybe a casual speedrun of easy missions but nothing too fancy

[hazy steeple]

You can say hell, it's fine.

[buoyant perch]

I mean solo legendary is pretty high in the casual-hardcore continuum, I usually just play in a group

[hazy steeple]

we also allow gosh, darn, and whoopsie-daisy.

[frail halo]

Okay didn’t didn’t want to trigger the automod

[shy willow]

Requiem content when sir

[hazy steeple]

It's not THAT picky, I mean it's picky, but not that bad.

[cerulean smelt]

i want to see diens skill sin resurgence 👀

[frail halo]

So it allows words that aren’t curse words but are still kind of in the grey zone so to speak?

[hazy steeple]

We don't control the bot, but if you're ever unsure, it's best to just err on the side of caution.

[frail halo]

Ok

[hexed hollow]

Can I only get NinjaBike Messenger Bag from DZ?

[solar sable]

no

[cerulean smelt]

exotic caches, exotic reward

[hexed steppe]

ninja can drop anywhere... but its just a good component

...i do have a cluster dogs setup tho 🔥

@deep tulip tagged since you were looking for something like this earlier. you could technically use btsu gloves with a restorer hive if you wanted seeker spam + some sore of healing/regen

[buoyant perch]

in the pinned spreadsheet, it has all exotic and where to get them

[smoky latch]

I like this doc, everything nicely put together and explained

[subtle bluff]

That's a good one.

[deep tulip]

Would this work with bullet king and a marksman rifle do you think?

[cerulean smelt]

probably but it'd be nerfed because of no capacitor

[hexed steppe]

no, run in sync talent weapon and/or capacitor

[deep tulip]

I’m green lol. Why so? Lol

[hexed steppe]

if you dip into skills, just dive in... you wont effectively hybrid with anything other than capacitor anyways, so its the goto for damage skill builds

there is no weapon damage on a skill build, also no crit stats on a skill build unless specifically farmed

capacitor can use the skilltiers as weapon damage, and also score you 60% skill damage from its talent

there is no comparison

[deep tulip]

What are those gloves

[hexed steppe]

overdogs

[cerulean smelt]

i think tacticians in div 1 would say otherwise 😹

[hexed steppe]

you can use skill damage rolled contractor's gloves and still have a good seeker build. overdogs currently offers best damage potential for explosives, oxi, fire skills

[civic meteor]

Oh to have +15% weapon damage or another 170k armour core

Hmm

I guess I could just focus on the proficiencies to upgrade the armour % right

Like +30% each

I’m at 930k that’ll get me to atleast a million fully upgraded

[cerulean smelt]

knock yourself out to increase your white numbers on your armor pieces

@civic meteor see the red box? that's waht expertise is increasing

[civic meteor]

I keep forgetting about proficiencies I already feel overpowered all I need is a little survivability and I’m goated

[cerulean smelt]

expertise % doesn't touch the Core armor attribute at all

[civic meteor]

Oh I thought that was just the base armour

Now I have to figure out what to do to keep myself busy to farm these proficiencies

[smoky latch]

@flint arch Using this RN

[solar sable]

Turmoil is just there bc of Ambush or else they would be stashed

[smoky latch]

Since I farm solo IDC; using Turmoil, Determined everywhere, I just wanna reach the 1k 😂

[cerulean smelt]

help pry me from this build. haven't been using oxpecker, mostly stack broker 😹

[smoky latch]

Wha

Why would you use Oxpecker?

[cerulean smelt]

testing patrick wolf's build kind of, he used spot on holster instead, but i was like "what if turmoil?"

[smoky latch]

Oh right, you had shown a ss of that yesterday

Must be meh if you keep using Stack Broker lol

The only positive thing about the Oxpecker for me is the laser - reminds me of the Predator shoulder cannon laser :p

[cerulean smelt]

THANKS! i was like, where have i seen that before?

[smoky latch]

Haha

[vapid kiln]

Big al build? Just basic tipping scale or striker?

[cerulean smelt]

i might've found my assault GE build though 😹

[smoky latch]

Slaps a bit harder with TS I think

[vapid kiln]

Haven't had good use out of TS yet

But I was using iron lung with it

[smoky latch]

I also used IL with it

Sometimes GR9, sometimes Bluescreen

[vapid kiln]

What drew me away was the horrendous horizontal recoil i was experiencing

[smoky latch]

Which LMG?

[vapid kiln]

I can deal with vertical, but horizontal is tough

IL

[thick meteor]

Is harrier pride good?

[vapid kiln]

I didn't have any stability or accuracy watch bonuses when I last tried it

[smoky latch]

I mean I'm on PC so I use kb/m, but I cannot say that it has bad recoil

[vapid kiln]

Been having a blast with the proper striker build I copied from the pinned docs link

[smoky latch]

Is this too much for controller already? Not moving my mouse

[cerulean smelt]

it's meh

[thick meteor]

damn...

[vapid kiln]

If you have max watch bonuses it lessens what you experience handling wise as im only 42 into stability and 7 in accuracy, I havnt tried any lmg since I've been putting points in stability

[smoky latch]

Ah OK, my bad, I did not consider that

[vapid kiln]

Been noticing a difference even with ARs that I've been leveling it up

[smoky latch]

Gotcha

[vapid kiln]

For instance the only way bighorn for me is usable beyond 5 meters is if I use eagle grasp gloves

[sour phoenix]

Hi guys I am on a striker build with ninja backpack and unit alloy vest and holster

Can anyone give some advice on how to improve the build

[solar sable]

remove ninjabike

[vapid kiln]

Striker backpack is a big bonus to miss out on

[smoky latch]

😙

[cerulean smelt]

or even some form of Vigilience taleneted backpack?

[vapid kiln]

That's the same striker setup I'm using l, except just with elmo

[sour phoenix]

I use engine elmos nd I'm a new player

[flint arch]

if you run vigilance, you also run PGC with that, and that requires some balls

oh wait i forgot ceska exists, but either way it demands that you don't get hit or you lose a significant portion of your damage

[smoky latch]

Take a look at some really great recommendations (made by iKia)

[vapid kiln]

Bighorn build I have uses PGC and PV

[sour phoenix]

I want some lil changes to improve the build but not too much

[vapid kiln]

It SLAPS but you're not taking any kinda of dmg for long

[smoky latch]

Remove the NBB, use the Striker's backpack

You don't really need the +50% magazine size anyway

[sour phoenix]

What attributes tho?

[buoyant perch]

a connoisseur sir

[vapid kiln]

Striker backpack crit chance, crit dmg

If possible I'd say

[smoky latch]

CHC/CHD - get to 55-59% CHC, rest CHD

[sour phoenix]

Thank you so much guys 🥹

[smoky latch]

Good luck

[flint arch]

I wonder if Tipping Scales is better for Big Al than Striker

[sour phoenix]

How about momento

[buoyant perch]

not for nd

[vapid kiln]

Is bighorn viable on the striker build, havnt tried it myself

I typically just use st elmo cause its a laser

[smoky latch]

It slaps harder, yes

[solar sable]

I think it fits better ngl

[sour phoenix]

What's the best way to find outcast tactical assessment?

[flint arch]

i feel like if you run striker with Big Al, you'll run into scenarios where the timing on the buff on the gun is misaligned with your striker stacks

[vapid kiln]

Summit floor 10 on heroic

[smoky latch]

Outcast bounties, generally anything with named Outcasts

[buoyant perch]

just craft it (need to clear CP3/4 enough time to get bp)

[vapid kiln]

Hunt only for the named boss, open map return to lobby, repeat

[sour phoenix]

What's cp3

[buoyant perch]

control point lv 3

[vapid kiln]

Its rng what enemy type you get though

[smoky latch]

Control Point level 3, aka Challenging difficulty

[sour phoenix]

Oh ok

Summit floors sounds simple

[vapid kiln]

Its rng depending on enemy type but all tact assessments you'll eventually be needing at some point

[smoky latch]

True, Summit floor 10 farm. Forgot about that

[vapid kiln]

Its a good farm

[sour phoenix]

So can anyone help?

[buoyant perch]

I only use it for close range combat pfe striker

[cerulean smelt]

the april fool's exotic backpack? or typo? there was/is a momento backpack btw but it's mostyl for dismantling for exotic component

[vapid kiln]

Pfe?

[sour phoenix]

I also need someone to carry me on 100th summit floor

[buoyant perch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11RWr-X27mNuz0PLPpYT0Wm7qg2sKaVCs_xzasS8XXsk/edit?usp=sharing

it's in the pinned spreadsheet btw

[sour phoenix]

Momento backpack

[cerulean smelt]

so the april fool's exotic?

[vapid kiln]

Ah right, cause you have to be so close you're definitely going to take some dmg

[sour phoenix]

Idk 😭

[cerulean smelt]

you don't know how many pepole were so mad at seeing those. i found it amusing and just dismantled them all

[sour phoenix]

Its just momentos

[vapid kiln]

Cause I have it on PGC build but man does it suck when I get hit by even a single bullet

[sour phoenix]

Anyone?

[vapid kiln]

Try posting in #lfg-playstation

[sour phoenix]

Oh sorry

[cerulean smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Ph3AKjt5I
give this a watch and you'll understand what i'm asking

[flint arch]

Memento is the actual exotic
Momento is the fake one

[sour phoenix]

It's the exotic backpack gives armor

[vapid kiln]

Its ight but niche cases, it will lower your burst dps from not using striker backpack

[cerulean smelt]

so memento? typo version. like i said there was/is a momento backpack but it was an april fool's joke dev played on players

[smoky latch]

Bonus armor but yeah

[buoyant perch]

1.5 mil non-crit headshot at max stack

[vapid kiln]

Salvo, foxs?

[cerulean smelt]

protection from elites

[vapid kiln]

Oh man, nvm thoes cores

[sour phoenix]

So If I use striker backpack instead of ninja, rn I am on 49% crit chance and 99% crit damage how much would it be on striker backpack @vapid kiln

[vapid kiln]

The striker build i was referring to was the typical one with equalizer/overdogs

It's the only build I have close to max rolls on

[buoyant perch]

BH hits really hard if you can hit headshot but it has terrible handling

[vapid kiln]

Yea ik

Thats why I tend to just use elmo

More consistent dps, bighorn hits yes, but if you can land headshots

[sour phoenix]

Any idea?

[vapid kiln]

Because if my brain is correct, bighorn is a huge disadvantage/kinds pointless if you can't hit heads consistently

[buoyant perch]

standard striker overdog build, ninjabike backpack is just trash except for pvp

St Elmo, lexington good alternative

[vapid kiln]

Or carbine 7

[sour phoenix]

Okay I'll just ask ai to answer this

[vapid kiln]

With ninja backpack you have 49 crit?

[flint arch]

ai is worse than useless

[cerulean smelt]

you're asking, but not providing pictures of the build or your stats so we cant' tell you more than just what you're asking

far as we can tell you're below 1k you could have a bunch of stuff on with no chance on it, you could be missing weapon mods with chance on it as well

[vapid kiln]

Unrelated but what's best xp without year 1 dlc

[smoky latch]

CPs

[flint arch]

55% if you have 6% CHC on your backpack

[cerulean smelt]

pins here or in community has a control point farming guide

[sour phoenix]

Cuz I'm on Bed rn I can't I couldn't sleep so I came here

[sour phoenix]

Man I don't have any good mod with crit chance

[cerulean smelt]

corrupted message went over your head

[vapid kiln]

What do you have

[sour phoenix]

5.2 crit chance

[cerulean smelt]

what corrupted is saying. once you don the striker backpack you should get chance on it, if you're at 49% now once you have the striker backpack you'll be pushed to 55% without mods

[smoky latch]

That's decent

[flint arch]

my crit mods are all 5.2-5.4%, 5.2% is good

[vapid kiln]

My highest CC mod is 5.1

And I'm 56 CC on my striker build

[sour phoenix]

Can't I find 6%?

[flint arch]

you can, but it's extremely rare

[vapid kiln]

Kind of a unicorn

[cerulean smelt]

eventually
praying to rngesus or sacrificing to lootcifer nets you one

[smoky latch]

Naaahh

[sour phoenix]

I was thinking of going on a farm in countdown for it 💀

[cerulean smelt]

the harsh part of this game is the looter shooter aspect where drops are completely random

[vapid kiln]

All the mods I use on my striker build are crit dmg mods

[cerulean smelt]

you could run normal missions and maybe get lucky at getting a max rolled mod out of a ton of low rolled mods

same you can run heroic and get nearly maxed rolled mods out of 100 runs but no maxed out mods

[sour phoenix]

I think I'll use both attributes of maximum crit chance with recalibration and use the crit dmg mod 12% on my striker backpack

[smoky latch]

It's just the overall values that count, then you adjust accordingly

[vapid kiln]

58.9, and 100.9

Watch bonuses are 47 cc, 11 cd
So 9.4 and 4.4

[sour phoenix]

Is it possible? And is it a good idea?

[vapid kiln]

Typically no, each peice you want cc and cd if you can

[sour phoenix]

But why

[flint arch]

how you get there doesn't really matter, all that matters is you get close to 60% chc as much as possible and then dump the rest into chd

[vapid kiln]

Obviously holster is only 1 attri, so crit chance

High crit chance with low critt dmg isnt great

[sour phoenix]

Im on 49% with ninja backpack with mods on

[smoky latch]

I use a regular UA holster tho just for the crits

[sour phoenix]

I have cayoti mask as well

[vapid kiln]

That even confuses my febal brain

[subtle bluff]

You have your answer now.

Pretty simple..

[sour phoenix]

I can't multiply these

[subtle bluff]

You don't need to....

[sour phoenix]

Im not qualified for this calculation

[solar sable]

cayoti

[vapid kiln]

Like in looking at it, but have no idea what the equation even means or what the outcome is supposed to be

[sour phoenix]

Ya It felt simple 🗿

[subtle bluff]

Just read..

[flint arch]

it's simple multiplication

[subtle bluff]

You don't even need to.

[vapid kiln]

I did, it doesn't process for me

[subtle bluff]

That's the just extra for what it's state for.

[vapid kiln]

Am dumb

[sour phoenix]

Alright am off to sleep

Gn

[vapid kiln]

Like I would need a legit example to be able to understand it

Not just what it shows

[subtle bluff]

It's in your stats.

[sharp folio]

Think I might build this after I get to lvl 50 in season pass

[smoky latch]

Use it anyway but with Bluescreen

[sharp folio]

What does bluescreen have as a talent?

Or wait let me check

[buoyant perch]

It's good

[sharp folio]

Also would the build itself work in legendary/heroic runs with bluescreen?

[sharp folio]

It's from gcrock so just thinking that either

[buoyant perch]

Bluescreen doesn't have a damage talent (cc only) so I like the big Al more

[cerulean smelt]

nods aside black/white tusk if most things are disoriented they don't shoot back

[sharp folio]

Yeah screw it, big al is probably gonna be faster to be obtained for me

[buoyant perch]

It dropped from the caches when I did journey

[cerulean smelt]

didn't get mine until i hit the season reward at 40 something

[flint arch]

You kinda need to be in a group and shoot at a distance since it doesn't have the best damage, but the CC is quite helpful

[sharp folio]

Won't work then

Especially with my friend who has no idea how to do legendaries

[buoyant perch]

moving decoys are nice though

[sharp folio]

He dies to 2 hits with his build 😂

[flint arch]

literal true sons companion

[sharp folio]

He IS the true son lmao

He doesn't want to do countdown because he might friendly fire his allies

[cerulean smelt]

those are the best. especially if you call out your turret/drone during the hunter fights 😹

[sharp folio]

He probably won't be able to deal damage even with the blue od damage buff 🤣

[cerulean smelt]

i think a lot of people, including me, would welcome that option

[sharp folio]

The friendly fire option or?

[cerulean smelt]

yes, so many shield users do this phenomnon where they walk in front of someones line of fire and stop so people waste bullets hitting them instead

[sharp folio]

I would rather use friendly fire on my teammates who would make 2 groups and not run together (which leads to losing 99% of the time)

[eternal jackal]

CHC (build 1) x CHD (build 1) = ??
CHC (build 2) x CHD (build 2) = ??

To get how much of an overall damage boost you can expect for an effect like X% chance to boost damage by Y%, you just multiply them together.

Examples:
A 50% crit chance with 98% crit damage is 0.50 x 0.98 = 0.49, so +49% bonus damage on average.
A 60% crit chance with 85% crit damage is 0.60 x 0.85 = 0.51, so +51% bonus damage on average.

So even though you're losing 13% crit damage and only gaining 10% crit chance, it will still average more damage with these example numbers.

Obviously there could be other effects you'd need to take into account too for your particular build. Like if you need to kill an enemy with specifically a critical hit, you may still want to opt for more crit chance, even if it ends up being a lower total damage bonus, because it helps proc other bonuses.

[vapid kiln]

That still doesn't make any since to me, too complicated for me, so best to ignore it

All I know and can think of, is 60 crit chance, rest dmg

But obviously don't want low crit dmg, in favor of higher chance

[cerulean smelt]

we usuaally tell people to go 1% chance to 2% damage ratio

[eternal jackal]

I don't know how much easier to make it, lol. You just multiply both stats together to get a number. Do it for both builds and see which number is bigger.

[cerulean smelt]

my eyes starts spinning once you throwout formulas

[hexed steppe]

build it asap but lose lefty for an ar. nego thrives on crit and is a top tier setup

[sharp folio]

Uh I didn't understand it other than the first three words 😭

[hexed steppe]

. lose the secondary named shotgun. use an assault rifle. assault rifle will synergize better with negotiators dilemma better than a shotgun

my own setup is almost the same thing, and it works well

[cerulean smelt]

i use merciless and turmoil because why not

[sharp folio]

Now I understand (my braincells are evaporating)

[hexed steppe]

must be too much strikers

[mint shore]

For those who run techtanks, do you find that you do enough damage to clear heroic retaliations solo?

[sharp folio]

True

[swift raft]

guys i am pretty new to the game, about a 100 hours of just doing campaign and power leveling SHD to 1k. I like a good 1-2 shot build that doesnt require to hit constant headshots because i am not good at tracking the movement of NPC all that much. Anyone got a build i can work towards?

[buoyant perch]

Sniper build in the pinned spreadsheet

[cerulean smelt]

mention determined talent so you don't have to always get headshots. just 1 to start the chain then every hit is a headshot. toe sticking out and you shoot it? headshot 😹

[swift raft]

it says next shot

does that mean only 1 after that and then you need a headshot again?

[cerulean smelt]

yes, you get 1 headshot kill. all your kills past that is consdered headshots

[swift raft]

oh

wording ingame is weird

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, you'll get used to it at some point

[swift raft]

ty

[cerulean smelt]

and if you like that determined sniper build, steer clear of the perfect determined weapons as that is a 1 headshot, your 1 next shot is headshot, then you got to get another headshot again

[swift raft]

perfect one being worse than other is funny

thanks for the headsup

[cerulean smelt]

i think they attempted to fix it by swapping the 2, but the players won and they put it back how we have it now

🤔 what if in april they change it again but keep their ground

[subtle bluff]

During like TU21 they fix did it quickly and hot fix it back.

[cerulean smelt]

we're on what TU number now? like high 20's? low 30's?

quick google serch
The Division 2 - TU21 - Patch Notes
Megathread
The Division 2 - Year 6 Season 1 PTS - Patch Notes
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www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/1ccvl6s/the_division_2_tu21_patch_notes/
The Division 2 - TU21 - Patch Notes : r/thedivision - Reddit
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so yeah, i'd say it's safe to assume we're on high 20's or low 30's for TU numbers?

i feel old mrchow. that was 2 years ago? doesnt' feel like that to me 😹

[hexed steppe]

i wish they would re-implement that fix, ngl

[cerulean smelt]

i'm betting april will do just that 😹

[hexed steppe]

high doubt

many would lose their shit

[cerulean smelt]

yeah definitely but i could see them doing that and being like "well, there's the door thanks for your donations"

[subtle bluff]

Wish they God damn fix the wording of all the misworded text!

And have very detailed tickets made.

[toxic frigate]

is it better to use Strained or Optimist for the Lexington

[hexed steppe]

killer > measured > strained > optimist

[toxic frigate]

for dz

i would go for killer if i play normal lz

[hexed steppe]

oh, fair. probably, but im sure someone with more pvp knowledge can offer a better answer

[subtle bluff]

Helps to add that context before.
Measured but it more depends on your build.

[toxic frigate]

gear probably like this

(the most generic dz build that ever existed™ )

[subtle bluff]

Ya measured

[swift raft]

i think they changed it

i am loosing the headshot thing after one shot to body

[subtle bluff]

We do have #td2-pvp-discussions PvPer will get to you eventually.

[toxic frigate]

oh thank

[hexed steppe]

you do need to also have headhunter in the build. do you mind posting a ss of what you are using

[misty walrus]

How are these setups for countdown?

OD: weapons (pressure point + sadist)
Eclipse: yaahl gear mask

[swift raft]

bullwark backpack till i get the gift

tryign to find it but no luck

[hexed steppe]

if you can get to full disrupt resist on the eclipse itll be better. looks good tho. od pretty flexible and looks good

[hexed steppe]

ose any highend with a damage core over bulwark bag. you also want chainkiller chest. target walker harris and its a common drop

you wont easily find gift because it is dz /named cache only, but a regular providence bag with vigilance will give the same damage

[swift raft]

any specific talent on backpack needed?

[misty walrus]

mod gears are dr

[hexed steppe]

what % do you hit?

[swift raft]

ok

[misty walrus]

9.7%, 9.8%, 9.8%

[hexed steppe]

like total disrupt resist

[misty walrus]

2 blue cores r hazard protection

[hexed steppe]

70%ish

?

[misty walrus]

60%hp & 89.3% dr

[hexed steppe]

when i made mine i swapped haste to the mods and went hazpro on the gear to get further resist to anything. this is 100% immune all status and tailored for CD.
you really just gotta hit 96-97% for cd to be disrupt immune so almost there if it mattered to you

[thick meteor]

Is lexington, or st elmos better in my strikers build? I can only reach 48% chc with lexington, but almost max with st elmos, if you can help, thank you!

-# also what other builds is the lexington good in

[sharp folio]

So what am I supposed to do in this situation?

[hexed steppe]

keep the chance where it is, work in more crit damage

[sharp folio]

I can't 😭

[livid sorrel]

48% of what? Lexington is better damage-wise, but Elmo's might be easier to use with the big mag and accuracy

[thick meteor]

I forgor to put chc mb

[hexed steppe]

you can, trust. youll get weapon mods that are crit chance and be able to shift gear rolls to damage. youll optimize or farm better gear, and youll use crit brands to push the numbers as well

[livid sorrel]

no chc mods?

[sharp folio]

I deal like 600k with no stacks on crits with that % somehow

Which is surprising (although it's probably because of obliterate)

[thick meteor]

I got chc mods on every piece except one piece with max chd

[livid sorrel]

on the gun i mean

[thick meteor]

...the suppressor looks cool, and uh, my underbarrel is the chd one

-# and my sight is the chc one

[sharp folio]

Also should I put my offense points into CHD now?

[thick meteor]

If you dont have a maxed chc watch, then max it out, and see if you can move your stats around

[livid sorrel]

use chc attachments

[sharp folio]

My ceska has weapon handling on the first attribute lmao

[sharp folio]

Slightly better at the cost of 5% chc

[subtle bluff]

Guessing my crit post isn't needed here?

[livid sorrel]

is it? i'm not sure, i'm just working based on what they told me

[sharp folio]

Sucks, I can't use the 12% chd on my striker mask because I'll have 45% chc

[subtle bluff]

Wurd...

[sharp folio]

Not really sure if it's worth it

[subtle bluff]

Go max your libaray.

First.

[livid sorrel]

that one's better
at your level you should aim for a ratio of 1 chc to 2 chd

[sharp folio]

I can max out my mask with one of these sorta

[sharp folio]

Mask has only 1 slot in the attributes tho

[livid sorrel]

that's for your overall stats

[sharp folio]

Also in every armor piece or?

[livid sorrel]

in your stat screen

[sharp folio]

Ah yeah I'm being blind again mb

[solar berry]

More closer to 60% the better. But you also need high crit dmg as well.

[sharp folio]

Ok so most of my core attributes (mainly damage) is almost maxed

Just need to max out the attributes

Also how does every get max attributes and core attributes anyway?

[solar berry]

Farm countdown and dono/upgrade attributes

[cerulean smelt]

btw: welcome back zozo or you just lurking for now?

[sharp folio]

On gear I mean

[solar berry]

Life… I was playing div2 10th year…

I find new exo BP kinda underwhelming

[cerulean smelt]

same

[solar berry]

It’s cool. But it def can be a lot better ngl

[thick meteor]

I have gotten to a 53 in chc for lexington, but sacrificed 10chd in the process, which honestly, its fine

[livid sorrel]

what's your chd?

[sharp folio]

Ok yeah time to go to countdown and farm core attributes/attributes

[solar berry]

% per stack is to smol, or it resets on no combat very quickly idk

It don’t feel decent to use

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i noticed that. was like eh?

[solar berry]

It’s not bad but it just simply isn’t it 😔

[thick meteor]

Around 53, but im working on the chd with the watch

But anyways, is lexington better or st elmos better for a striker?

[cerulean smelt]

BA different story 😹

[solar berry]

Chc first from watch before chd

[thick meteor]

Fully maxed on chc

[subtle bluff]

Both are good. One has more burst other has more sustain.

They both do different jobs in a sense.

[thick meteor]

Could you recommend me any other builds that can use st elmos or lexington?

[cerulean smelt]

haven't tried it with GE off, but i can't stop using it

[subtle bluff]

Nego

[thick meteor]

I might donate the other gun to my second account for use since I wanna do the story again

[solar berry]

The exo BP?

[cerulean smelt]

good luck with that

[subtle bluff]

You can't use till their 40 anyways.

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, Big Alehandro

[thick meteor]

True, but I wanna get them ready

[solar berry]

Ahhh. It’s good exo. If you like staying in cover

[cerulean smelt]

you get the item when you're both grouped?

[livid sorrel]

Taking cover in a cover shooter, how preposterous

[solar berry]

I use cover when needed. I don’t rely on it personally

[subtle bluff]

Lex vs M4 isnt that much of difference.

[solar berry]

Unless… I’m on legendary difficulty

[subtle bluff]

Elmo and Lex aren't on the top of the meta weapons too.

[thick meteor]

What are the meta weapons rn anyways?

[subtle bluff]

MG5 w/killer

[thick meteor]

Interesting, is big al good with striker, equilizer and memento?

[subtle bluff]

You have to fit and change your playstyle to it. Depending on that content can be bad.

It works. All weapons with +790 rpm works on Strikers.

[west sonnet]

I've been working on a division builder (link in my profile since i cant link it here), I'd love any feedback/suggestions/bugs - there's a lot of data and logic 😅 and if anyone wants to help me refine it!

[subtle bluff]

Ya someone has shared it with us. There a lot missing.

the 2 that used that needs more is buildstation.app that sister to mx builder.

[west sonnet]

i did quite a few updates in the last 3 days to fix up some initial feedback, i have have the most recent exotics in there

[subtle bluff]

Like this is oppsite of what buildstation/mx build does.

feels unintuitive

[west sonnet]

the UI speciically?

[subtle bluff]

Yea.. No offense but this feels semi AI generated from my experience with the builder.

[livid sorrel]

Well, I checked your website now and the exotics have the correct talents now.

[west sonnet]

I've definitely used AI for the math/logic to link it all together. no offense taken

[subtle bluff]

being upfront with these DPS numbers are also misleading

[livid sorrel]

Nothing wrong with some AI for code, but don't get game info from it

[subtle bluff]

since they do not count in talents

[west sonnet]

what parts do you mean? hmm, talents should be counted

[mint axle]

Yeah, their algorithm is barely aligned with game info.

[west sonnet]

game info is sources from the community spreadsheet and patch notes

[subtle bluff]

Making a build is effort let me go a reference build

[west sonnet]

(appreciate all the feedback! Just trying to build a good resource and feedback good and bad is very helpful!)

[livid sorrel]

I personally don't like having exotics and nameds in a separate category but that's just me
Speaking of nameds, the named weapons are missing

[subtle bluff]

See you fixed most of the Minior Attriubtes

Have you used mxbuilder or buildstation.app?

[mint axle]

Do you guys have a link for this specific site that being made?

[west sonnet]

yes, they were outdated from old patches from what i could see which lead me down this road

[subtle bluff]

https://shdintel.com/

[subtle bluff]

There updated. We just haven't change the changelogs

There only one Dev now. I update and fix stuff.

We're activing looking for more people help out.

I keep getting this with OD chest.

[livid sorrel]

Exotics are missing their attachments

[west sonnet]

this is great, ty you all so much

good stuff to update! 😄

[livid sorrel]

Same with the striker bp

[subtle bluff]

but really what said that either site was out of date?

I guess we should put in the change log that we don't keep the change log updated.

[cerulean smelt]

pretty sure mxbuild was out of date? was my goto for build theories

[livid sorrel]

Mxbuilder doesn't have alejandro, but buildstation does

[mild dawn]

mx is missing all of previous season (unit alloy etc)

[west sonnet]

yeah i saw "last updated" and it was 2025

and i had been in the discord for years, and didn't see any posts about any updates, etc

[subtle bluff]

We're pushing them soon

[livid sorrel]

Nice

[subtle bluff]

It's there you need to clear your localDB

[mild dawn]

oh

[west sonnet]

going through logs to fix this now

[subtle bluff]

Yea MX build has just some issues at self updating per some users

But nothing we can do about it.

[subtle bluff]

Some how I was able to add it.... I'm noob.. I'm trying

[west sonnet]

i have named in the db, just needed to unflag them, and the exotic mods are in the calcs, i just didn't have them displayed as they are locked

[subtle bluff]

Your DPS should be a different section imo. Since it not counting for a lot stuff.

ANYWAY if you want to cont. this make your own discord we shouldn't spam this too much more here

[west sonnet]

thank you all for being my alpha testers and finding some of the obvious stuff i missed!

[subtle bluff]

Or you can use Chat for it but we shouldn't use his channel. IDK mod would tell us idk how this touches the rules.

[west sonnet]

general chat?

[cerulean smelt]

🤔 i'm with chow. maybe your own discord server?

if you want to stay here i imagine the mods won't get to mad if you did #off-topic-discussions maybe?

you plan on adding named items?

[sage jewel]

Which healer set would y'all say is better suited to heroic content with pugs?

[shy willow]

fundamentally healers aren't as useful on heroic imo

But purely talking about healer builds future initiative is the best one

[sage jewel]

yeah, disruption immune FI in countdown on heroic is workable. But I kind of agree. I just want to do some mindless support for fun.

[storm bough]

What is a good build for running dark zone? pvp focused

[cerulean smelt]

build doc here i think has a starter build for PVP but this would probably be better to ask in #td2-pvp-discussions

[storm bough]

oh ok thx

[junior lagoon]

i have seen an impetus build with pestilence and some strange choices. with turmoil and exodus gloves. any idea?

lengmo backpack

claims huge regen

[cerulean smelt]

There's no regen in that build

[shy willow]

Straight trash

[junior lagoon]

i think using incoming repairs mods

repair skills on impetus

[knotty flicker]

I like the pesti with shared dmg build, its strught red though using all crit dmg and max crit rate

Throw in a armor repair on kill here or there and I can do heroic solo (most of the time)

[magic pilot]

Armor on kill mods are terrible

[junior lagoon]

what do you think of above build?

also uses fixer drone and mender seeker mine

[knotty flicker]

I enjoy them because my build has zero blue in it, adding one gives me just enough sustain

[junior lagoon]

or you can use palisade

[knotty flicker]

Palisade?

[junior lagoon]

it has armor on kill on 1 piece set

[knotty flicker]

Interesting, I was unaware of that gear set

[junior lagoon]

yeah when you combine with gunner, you get 20 percent on kill

[magic pilot]

Not good

[deep fossil]

Refractor gear set is good aswell, since u can dealing dmg, as well as heal with ur turrets and drones

[civic meteor]

How do I get max attachments?

Or pardon me attachments that have max stats

[patent fossil]

Do you mean weapon attachments or gear mods?

[civic meteor]

Gear mods

[patent fossil]

just target farm them in countdown or retaliations on as hard a difficulty as you can comfortably manage

[hazy steeple]

(challenging or higher will only let gold ones drop, which is worth the push)

[civic meteor]

Would it drop well on summit?

[warm wraith]

I just did my first countdown. I guess im not sure what gear im aiming for. is there a set of gear that drops more fequently during the event?

or am I grinding for sets that are exotic? the red ones?

[solar sable]

claim your watch buddy
after that, go to Lvl40 Starters Guide

[warm wraith]

thanks for the guide! also where do u claim the watch?

[hazy steeple]

Quartermaster at the BoO (white house). Go in the front door, the desk on your left.

[warm wraith]

perfect. I see it now. You guys are great. thanks a lot!

[frail halo]

Is their any good build for retaliation true sins and the other factions like one build that can beat all of them? Or nah. I mean I’m mostly focusing true sins and the kill squads good lord if anyone has a good build for that hit me up. I’m going hotshot and it doesn’t really work very well for the kill squads since the brutes are so tanky

[onyx sage]

striker

[hazy steeple]

A certain average player set me on the "giant elmo mag build" path recently, and I'm finding it hard to look back.

[plain sapphire]

Thnks for slapping a new guy...

[proper wave]

swap out the gloves

it doesnt do anything here

[solar sable]

this is rather random stuff put together thinking it's good or you're new to theorycrafting

[hazy steeple]

Wait a tic, why is there 1 CoCo piece?

[tidal halo]

What's better to recalibrate to: +10% DMG to targets out of over or +6% damage to armor?

[hazy steeple]

dtooc is basically the meta on all guns.

[solar sable]

dtoc for everything except lmgs

[hazy steeple]

only other real option is for LMG's: you can throw on crit chance, since it already comes with dtooc.

[solar sable]

What were you thinking when you were putting this together?

off meta? maybe try and do a fun build? because what you sent doesn't fit any of the previously mentioned

[warm wraith]

I just want to make sure im reading this right. im doing to countdown event to get the caches to maybe get exotics and the striker set?

[solar sable]

I don't understand your question

[warm wraith]

so the purpose of doing the countdown event is to get the striker set?

or to get the caches?

[junior lagoon]

Striker set

Caches are for exotics

[solar sable]

it's not an event, it's a game mode
Countdown is used to put together builds in a rather fast way without much effort
Its Requisition reward on extraction is to be spent on the Vendor. You decide what to buy from it

Those caches in the ss you sent are rewards for leveling up, has nothing to do with Countdown

[warm wraith]

Oh I see. I guess Im just getting confused because in TD1 there were the global events where u would grind for caches and get special sets. I guess its different

[hazy steeple]

There are Global Events in div2 as well, Countdown is just another thing.

[warm wraith]

ahh okay gotcha.

[hazy steeple]

There's actually a div1 Global Event live in div2 right now, "Ambush". First time it's been in div2 before.

[hexed steppe]

you just grind for different types of caches

[hazy steeple]

You know what don't worry about it, just make sure you pick the "Targeted Loot" as Strikers for Countdown. Holding H over the mode and then select the one you want.

[warm wraith]

Is that something you can matchmake in? or

[civic meteor]

Do attachments drop well on summit if I do it on heroic?

[warm wraith]

lol okay. damn there's so much to learn

[hexed steppe]

only challenging/heroic boss floors if you are talking about attachment blueprints. if you are talking about gear/skill mods, they can drop anywhere

for blueprints its much faster running level 3 or 4 (challenging/heroic) controlpoints

[civic meteor]

I’m talking about gear mods

[hexed steppe]

yeah, theyll drop anywhere in summit. heroic will give decent average rolls

[civic meteor]

Trying to get max stat gear mods

[hexed steppe]

if you can work up to legendary summit youll have a higher average roll. difficulty basically raises the lowest possible roll . if you do heroic with some easy directives to manage youll get a bit more target loot chances. personally i think countdown or retaliations will produce more items and they share the same target loot system summit has

[civic meteor]

So trying to work up to countdown on heroic is better than doing summit on legendary?

If I even wanan try legendary I need like max proficiency on all my armour I have a total armour of 930k rn

[hexed steppe]

i would personally just do cd on challenging because youre gonna have a ton of drops and youll have some that can max roll on any difficulty

[plain sapphire]

It works for me...

[civic meteor]

Real, just the drop chance is so low coupled with the fact I want crit damage or crit chance shit would be annoying as fu

[hexed steppe]

you dont want to expertise your armor. hitting level 30 on all 6 pieces will give you ~1 blue core at the cost of 540 exotic components

you just roll a red to blue and call it a day

[civic meteor]

I use a momento already

[swift raft]

An Someone help me understand how the 1 tap sniper build actually work

[solar sable]

Just because it "works for you" doesn't mean it's good

[civic meteor]

Wdym by this

[hexed steppe]

irrelevant to the statement

[civic meteor]

I’m level 40 SHD 350

[hexed steppe]

you were talking max proficiency for more armor, that indicates expertise upgrades on armor for 1% per proficiency expertise* level... up to 30% upgrade for each piece

[plain sapphire]

Someone asked for an opinion. I'm not saying I am the best at doing builds in any way but it was more of a anything goes with your play style. I also didn't say it was fantastic in any way but it's how I work. I will not bother 'helping' now as it's not 'meta'. Cheers

[burnt bone]

I think smth like contractors gloves would simply be a straight upgrade

[civic meteor]

So you meant it’s better to just re roll a +15% weapon damage to an armour core

[hexed steppe]

its a lot cheaper than funneling in 540 exotic components for the same armor gain

yes

[swift raft]

I have perfect headhunter buff and I have determined active too. When I shoot some armoured enemy, it resets the headhunter and determined. Is there a something where by if the damage isn’t enough to 1 shot or the enemy doesn’t have a headshot box then the talents are reset?
Sorry it’s confusing Idk how to explain it.. I just wanna know why I keep looking my determined

[solar sable]

That's not an opinion, that's random stuff put together. You're also posting on build advice where us, the community, know what and where to get newbies to.

[civic meteor]

What costs 540 exotic components leveling to level 30?

[burnt bone]

Read determined

[plain sapphire]

Then as I said, I will stay out of 'your' domain.

[civic meteor]

Is that only for exotics or for regular gear

Cause I haven’t seen spending exotic components

[wooden bloom]

what’s a good dps build with the ox smg?

[swift raft]

Hmm basically I am lacking damage..

[solar sable]

it's a bad smg lol

[swift raft]

Can’t 1 shot it doesn’t proc again

[burnt bone]

This will always be the case when shooting an enemy who’s head is armored

[tidal swan]

There's also Assault GE coming on Tuesday!!!! 🥳

[civic meteor]

I love coming in here with a good idea sometimes and then everyone dogs on me and saids it’s a bad idea then again I’m being dogged on by level 1000’s that collectively have over 100k hours in the game

[wooden bloom]

what are good smgs ?

[civic meteor]

Just follow some builds you think will be good

Try to optimize others, everything can be improved

[swift raft]

Damn that’s the whole reason I build this thing was to run around mindlessly killing stuff, I feel stupid 💀

[civic meteor]

At the end of the day

[proper wave]

i assume since you posted on here you are asking for advice for improvement

[burnt bone]

You just have to shoot helmeted enemies again

[solar sable]

So, to one shot almost any enemy, even named enemies, you have to:

1. Proc Determined with a headshot kill
2. Get 2 kills (red/purple/yellow) with Determined to reach max HH stacks
3. Kill Named enemy in one shot

[plain sapphire]

I only came here for some advice a while back and hung around to help where I can. I will just stay in the background now.

[burnt bone]

I think they’re more wondering how to deal with the issue of helmets

[hexed steppe]

that coco piece does nothing. contractors or grupo piece in its place will make a difference in your damage... awe deleted build 😔

[swift raft]

Ya

[solar sable]

Well, you can't get around it anyways

[plain sapphire]

I appreciate your advice. Thank you

[swift raft]

🥀

[solar sable]

lol it's sad but the truth 😆

[burnt bone]

that’s what I said Mr doomz 👉👈🥺

[solar sable]

I know mr Donky 😂

[swift raft]

I saw someone using coyotes mask, 4 piece tipping scale and bullet king doing 2M+ per shot .. I wonder if anyone here knows that build? Looked cool

[burnt bone]

Probably equalizer chest as well. I imagine it’s just the ambush event

[solar sable]

one sec I'll send the mini guide

[tidal swan]

also to keep in mind: expertise in armor only affects the base armor, it doesn't scale with cores. So if you want one core worth of armor from expertise you have to max out all 6 pieces to 30. Which is just simply not worth it. Exo components don't grow on trees.

[swift raft]

Chest was TS too I think

[burnt bone]

Isn’t ts chest sort of bait

[solar sable]

situational and at most useless

[swift raft]

found the ss

[solar sable]

I mean it's not too bad but doesn't compare to the good setups

[sharp folio]

I can get blue od build yay...

[swift raft]

idk what stats he had but he was hugging the walls with his dron healing him and ripping everything

[subtle bluff]

Need a quick double check. Anyone get on mx builder and check harrier?

Clear your localDB first

[solar sable]

localdebt? that's deck's alter ego?

[hexed steppe]

can get around it if you dont use determined. youre gonna lose the hh proc anyways regardless, but no determined mean you can actually 1shot a red bar hyena rusher instead of force breaking their helmet

[subtle bluff]

Heyyo….

[solar sable]

so pro

[swift raft]

What is that

[hexed steppe]

idk about that

[solar sable]

u check the guide I sent already?

[sharp folio]

The build or gun?

[hexed steppe]

leave that title for grandson

[swift raft]

Ty

[tidal swan]

depending on difficulty you can always Turmoil+determined. Just kill the enemis who don't have helmets and hope that the helmet guys die from transfer 😄
edit: why you laughing Local? It's a viable controller% strat!!! 😄

[swift raft]

Build

[swift raft]

Yes I did, I’ll try to find a video on yt

[solar sable]

NO PLEASE DON'T

[burnt bone]

So is iron lung based or smth

[solar sable]

Iron Lung best boy

[swift raft]

Umm

[sharp folio]

It's basically a build that lets you buff allies damage by 50% on marked enemy killed for some time (not stackable tho)

But you use blue cores for that so

[burnt bone]

30%

[solar sable]

Stay away from YT Division builds

[hexed steppe]

guess youll need to dive deeper *with build explanation

[burnt bone]

But also isn’t red OD just better 90% of the time ;-;

[sharp folio]

I only see blue od in spreadsheed builds

[burnt bone]

Look again

[swift raft]

Blue because you wanna tank?

[sharp folio]

Honestly god knows why

[subtle bluff]

That’s the blue section… Look at the Red section..

[burnt bone]

Btw OD stands for “Ongoing Directive”

[sharp folio]

Yeah I'm blind and forget things easily (especially names)

[frail halo]

Oh and what gears/brand set would that entice to get said big mag Elmo?

[swift raft]

Are they not accurate?

[subtle bluff]

I’ll add that I keep forgetting

[hexed steppe]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Zu9fKBuzxZ_EDlx_hkm2HN_f_KZltlZu7I8LRyceVE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.feue0idx93gs

[subtle bluff]

Clickbait

[sharp folio]

Figured after remindering myself that 😭

[burnt bone]

I forgive you

[sharp folio]

Yeah I forget about what OD stands for

[frail halo]

Thought it meant over dose but hey learn something new everyday 🙂

[swift raft]

The what’s the best resource for builds? Any website or docs?

[frail halo]

Check the pin in this channel

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[hexed steppe]

ongoing dogs

[sharp folio]

Spreadsheet in the pinned comments:

[solar sable]

Do you wanna listen to 30 minutes of nonsense yapping and clickbait videos?

[sharp folio]

Ongoing (hot)dogs

[frail halo]

It’s the first pin. It’s a big ass spread sheet with like a infinite number of builds and info and stuff

[burnt bone]

make blue OD if you want but I STRONGLY RECOMMEND making standard OD build first

[sharp folio]

Sir, DEFINE standard OD build

[swift raft]

I look only at gear and talents from the timeline .. don’t care about why and what till it works. If things don’t work then I come to this channel

[subtle bluff]

Fixed

[sharp folio]

Also maybe change blue OD name to be the same to be less confusing?

[hexed steppe]

right here. yt gets stigmatized because there are a lot of videos that showcase builds in a way that make them look better than they are. like during ge or in countdown where buffs can skew the numbers. there are plenty of good youtubers out there, for sure, but you gotta take most builds you see with a grain of salt.

[sharp folio]

Also what is the "diamond dilemma" build?

[hexed steppe]

something about a snake and some trash set

[solar sable]

genuine advice: avoid YT for Division
You won't waste time if you do, like really

[hexed steppe]

😍

[frail halo]

Can we just abbreviate ongoing directive to just OnD instead of OD so theirs no confusion between that and over dose since od can also mean that

[tidal swan]

the thing is: 99% of youtuber builds are just spam upload clickbait. There's some that have uploaded good build videos in the past at least, but most of the time what they push out is just garbage "hey! consider running 'keyword' with this NEW 'keyword'" ... better to stick to spreadsheets and discord for builds.

[swift raft]

That’s actually how many of the videos I’ve watched start 😂

[sharp folio]

Honestly yeah, they are garbage

Also is there a difference between hazard protection shield builds and non hazard protection shield builds?

[swift raft]

Plus what I’ve noticed is most of them have high expertise which they never ever talk about

[tidal swan]

is there a reason why you would want to run a hazpro shield build? 🧐

[swift raft]

I didn’t know what that was till yesterday

[sharp folio]

Maybe? 👀

But first I wanted to see the difference

[tidal swan]

well.. the difference is that non-hazpro doesn't have hazpro while hazpro does 😄

But there are very few cases in PVE why you would want hazpro.

[sharp folio]

Hm ok, but seriously I checked spreadsheet for any tanky shield builds and there were none and youtube is full of clickbaits

[gentle lichen]

Try technician with artificer hive and crusader shield

Closest you'll get to that

[tidal swan]

well I think ikia has some tech-tanks that are basically a bit tankier shield builds... but yea it depends on what you're trying to achieve. Full tank? Just dps with shield?

[sharp folio]

Full tank mainly

[subtle bluff]

Uh?

It’s a tougher shield by no means a tank

It’ll break still if you let it beat too much

[tidal swan]

I guess that'd be Foundry Bulwark then with like Catharsis and uhhhh forge? I don't know anything about tanks. Besides the fast that they're not great in anything in the game outside of very specific raid roles. But yea... a general purpose tank for casual PVE is just ass.

[sharp folio]

Is this smg even worth using?

[solar sable]

in a yay or nay, nay wins

[sharp folio]

Is it like yeah or nah form?

[solar sable]

ye

[swift raft]

I did seen an amazing video with it yesterday

Which would make you want to build with that 😂

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Zu9fKBuzxZ_EDlx_hkm2HN_f_KZltlZu7I8LRyceVE/edit?usp=drivesdk

[subtle bluff]

Have you seen what you can do without it?

[hexed steppe]

apparently there is a god mode yt build about it

[swift raft]

[tidal swan]

now I'm curious...

[swift raft]

So you saw it too

[burnt bone]

Uhhh I think OD is more likely to be confused with overdogs. I don’t believe there’s something in the game called “overdose”

[frail halo]

Yea but in real life it means that is what I meant

[tidal swan]

naah... OD has been in the game since the dawn of time and Overdogs is fairly new. No confusion there.'

[frail halo]

When I see od I think of that

[hexed steppe]

yeah, but its setup on a striker build thats pre stacked with 200 stacks so the damage repairs are gonna be better than if you were cold on a mission. like mentioned above, sometimes unrealistic results

new player would walk in thinking theyre gonna be godmode on legendary and end up wiping from their first wave

[burnt bone]

Well yeah I just mean I imagine newer players like ninja are probably more likely to confuse OD (Ongoing Directive) with OD (OverDogs) than OD (OverDose)

[hexed steppe]

we just call dogs

[swift raft]

It’s that video that was uploaded a day ago right? I had to go back and check and yes he did have quite a few striker stacks

[subtle bluff]

That clip unlike Content Creators isn’t cherry picked after dozens runs. One shot go show it.

[burnt bone]

Yes that is the best way to prevent the confusion haha

[swift raft]

Honestly , I am fairly new. What would be a comfort build I can play for soloing legendary?

[burnt bone]

Don’t

[hexed steppe]

yt builds are fine, as long as youre skeptical and look at all the factors. always second guess here for feedback, but expect the 🤮 about yt in general and know it isnt personal

[subtle bluff]

You don’t…
A build will not solely carry you thru the game.
You need a mix balance of a build, gameplay and knowledge to get thru the hardest content.

If you lack on a area there’s only so much another area can pick up.

[hexed steppe]

probably Chows tech tank or a striker setup. if you dont mind slow maybe a refactor setup. there are a lot of goats here that can give good solo advice for sure

[onyx sage]

striker memento imo

[burnt bone]

This is the way

[hexed steppe]

-# 🐐 spotted

[swift raft]

I just got memento yesterday

Didn’t even understand what the talent was

[hexed steppe]

i got you on this. hold on

[burnt bone]

Kill guys, pick up the lil orange things they drop, profit

[hexed steppe]

It is the hardest working single piece in the game.

For me, I look at all it does. Cores and long buff only (at full stacks) represent:

• 45% weapon damage
• 2 shield tiers
• free armor and skill core
• 30% skill damage
• 30% status effects
• 30% skill duration
• 30% skill health
• 30% skill haste
• 30% skill repair
  -# skill buckets™️
• 3% armor regen

Short buff adds core dependent buff and are a nice bonus but dont factor in to my reasoning for usage because its inconsistent unless always cqb when killing

[tidal swan]

bro has this on standby 😄

[hexed steppe]

-# copy pasta deployed

[subtle bluff]

If you can’t solo almost prefect flawless a heroic tidal or zoo on a red build, you’re not ready solo leggo

[burnt bone]

Oh he said the thing

[onyx sage]

prefect 🫵😆

[gentle lichen]

There's such a fundamental difference between heroic and legendary that imo any heroic content can't compare

Maybe solo heroic countdown

Good legendary starter is summit to be honest

[mint axle]

plus: stack aren't lost when out of combat.

[hexed steppe]

i musta grabbed an old pin from my discord 😅

[subtle bluff]

Probably a better one there.

[hexed steppe]

as long as you dont fast travel to a safe house or settlement

[subtle bluff]

It’s just starter idea because it shows the gameplay you need to be able to do

[swift raft]

This with st elmos ?

[hexed steppe]

with whatever, elmo works well

[swift raft]

[gentle lichen]

Biggest shock you'll notice is the grenadier and drone operator being lifted way up the "need to kill asap" chain

[hexed steppe]

medics are up there too i think

[gentle lichen]

Whereas otherwise in heroic they're just a pushover

[burnt bone]

No that’s just everything you get from memento

[swift raft]

Omg yes! Didn’t know a medic is stronger than a literal shotgun rusher

[frail halo]

Need to kill more like need to burn and bury and make sure they are dead dead not dead I mean the body is gone like there no existence of them ever. That’s the best way to explain it

[swift raft]

Medics smg melts so fast

[burnt bone]

Well also they make you have to kill things more than once which is not very sigma grindset of them

[hexed steppe]

nothing like clearing most stuff out, then having a medic f you by reviving half the adds

[swift raft]

I mean what’s the best gun to pair it with, I have a good chameleon

[hexed steppe]

yes ik, skill issue

dont crucify

[burnt bone]

Literally anything

[keen plank]

What is the best third stat for capacitor?

[swift raft]

Memento striker yes?

[burnt bone]

Damage to target out of cover

[manic frigate]

So i got scorpio recently and i just had a few questions regarding building with it, i really enjoy both skills and status spam, is there a good set for both, or is that not viable? Also is the dz meta still rollerball nukes?

[warm wraith]

which cache is best to buy?

[mint axle]

-# depends on what you want/need

[warm wraith]

i dont have any exotics or any of the season gear stuff

[burnt bone]

Basically always exotic

IMO

[hexed steppe]

exotic. named are good if you are hunting for dz exclusives tho

[vapid kiln]

Isn't headhunter supposed to ignore armor?

[tidal swan]

I'd agree if blueprints weren't a thing for those. Might as well bite the bullet and get the bp's.

[mint axle]

-# why would it?

[vapid kiln]

Idk, because often times I hit 1 shots, then other times it doesn't, like its rng if it does or not

[subtle bluff]

Define "Armor"

[steep wedge]

Delicious Alejandro

[vapid kiln]

Named enemies have armor health ibguess

[subtle bluff]

....

[vapid kiln]

Obviously helmets will deny a 1 shot kill

[mint axle]

Armor like a white bar, or a physical 3D armor on a big guy?

[vapid kiln]

From my experience anyway

[subtle bluff]

Those are Armor Plates.

[vapid kiln]

Named enemy, not a chunga

[subtle bluff]

What do you mean but this statement exactly.

[mint axle]

It will only killed a enemy with armor because the headhunter stack are filled, not because you are hitting the head

[vapid kiln]

Most often I do have full stacks just even then sometimes it denies the 1 shot to reset determined and i get royally screwed if that happens

[subtle bluff]

Well with a determine you hard hitting the head. Just there's a Armor Plate that's protecting the Health.

[subtle bluff]

Do you have Modifiers on?

[vapid kiln]

No

Just the event

[subtle bluff]

I'd have to see a clip, to figure it out.

you explaining isn't gonna work at this rate. Sorry.

[mint axle]

Just out of curiosity, are you using turmoil?

[vapid kiln]

No, chain killer, foxs, the gift, punch drunk

With every peice with as much HS dmg I can get

[hexed steppe]

what are your 2 off pieces not mentioned

[mint axle]

Ok... So idk where did you get the idea of headhunter bypassing armor plates.

[vapid kiln]

Zwia, holster, eafle grasp

[hexed steppe]

weapon?

[vapid kiln]

1886

Worked great during valentines, had no issues with named enemies then

I think just my dmg is slightly low enough to not outright kill a named every time

[mint axle]

Valentine was a modified version of reanimated, an event that increases headshot damage

[hexed steppe]

you should add overdogs, drop punch drink and zwai and add 2 breaking pieces

should be capable of hitting 30mil+ easy in that config iirc

[vapid kiln]

This build was on the docs spreadsheet

[hexed steppe]

so wasnt a ninja setup at one point

trust

[mint axle]

Make sure you have more than 150% of hsd, otherwise the headhunter will be weaker.

[vapid kiln]

196 atm

[subtle bluff]

Almost anything on GE reanimated worked with it..

[vapid kiln]

Its weird though, sometimes ill hit 37mil other times it'll hit 23

[hexed steppe]

or this if the purpose of punch drunk was regulus

[mint axle]

Btw, local, shouldn't zwia be better for rifle damage since the perfect version of HH doesn't change much from the normal version?

[vapid kiln]

I don't have regulus

[hexed steppe]

2 breaking is 25% rifle/25%mmr, zwai is 20% rifle

iirc anyways

[subtle bluff]

atm? Context plz...

[mint axle]

I mean in exchange of the chain killer and the gift on that picture

[hexed steppe]

you cap faster with chainkiller. at some point it is preference tho, still 1 shotting either way. i dont have the zwai pieces to test idt, but more rifle will be a higher top end

[subtle bluff]

They both work.

Solo it doesn't matter.

[hexed steppe]

how much expertise do you have on your determined 1886?

[vapid kiln]

My expertise is only 5

[subtle bluff]

GE full and no GE active

Have you read how the GE works...

[vapid kiln]

What is ge

[subtle bluff]

Global Event

[vapid kiln]

Both ge buffs were full on the screenshots

Look behind the threat detection thing from the pulse can barely the bar

[subtle bluff]

That bar... Do you understand what it does for the GE?

Does it not, at least makes any sense here..

<---- Full | Not Full ---->

[vapid kiln]

I wasn't moving at all both thoes kills, which is what grants the buff

[gentle lichen]

Ge effect if you stand still and meter is full you do more damage

[vapid kiln]

Still did lower dmg

[burnt bone]

Mr chow it looks to me like the bar is full in both

[vapid kiln]

^

[subtle bluff]

Doesn't look like to me. I do know there somethign else with GE oen shot builds that weird

[burnt bone]

Is the left shot a crit?

[subtle bluff]

Right is Crit

[burnt bone]

Damage numbers appear to be different colors

[vapid kiln]

Just red number, the lower number was a crit

[subtle bluff]

left is only HS

As I mentioned there something weird with the GE and oneshots I've heard about but I don't play it with one shots to know nor enough to see

[mint axle]

-# Maybe the headhunter damage limit is negating the GE bonus or something, idk.

[subtle bluff]

I'm sorry wtf?

[burnt bone]

Bot/scam

[subtle bluff]

With that follow up seems questionable

[burnt bone]

@patent fossil

@hexed steppe

[mint axle]

scammer detected

[vapid kiln]

That pfp lol

[subtle bluff]

OH ya.. Kill bot now

bio makes all the sense.

[mint axle]

-# nice job

[burnt bone]

Thank 🙏🙏

[hexed steppe]

chow was all in on that already

[vapid kiln]

But yea, something funky happening, making me not 1 hit named enemies

[subtle bluff]

It's not with named

It's just in general. It goes away in a day with the GE so it's w/e

[burnt bone]

Can I see your build

[mint axle]

Not every named can be one shot with 1886, the outcast heavy gunner is a example.

Because his archetype has a lot of hp

[hexed steppe]

there are a lot of helmets on non chunga npcs too

[vapid kiln]

Well, if it says any context I've been farming, sinkhole and sleeping giant CPs

[hexed steppe]

ahh sg, my first and only love

[vapid kiln]

And the only enemies I've noticed with helmets are the true son gunners at sinkhole, or chungas

[burnt bone]

Can I see build 👉👈🥺

[vapid kiln]

When I last used this rifle I was sub shd 100 during valentines, this event has given opportunity to grind out lvls which is why I'm trying to just 1 shot blitz CPs

[burnt bone]

Chat is the 200% from ambush a 2x mult to damage

How is it calculated

[vapid kiln]

My 1886 has max HS roll, as I havnt gotten lucky with one that had dttoc or determined in it

Also have 1 with max dta

I figured it out

[mint axle]

-# amuse us

[vapid kiln]

Its just being funky as heck, if I slightly move to reset the buff after each kill, I'll do 37m consistently, even hit a 40 crit

But only if I reset the buff does it do 37m, if I don't it does 24

[hexed steppe]

now imagine overdogs on top

[vapid kiln]

Which why is it doing that

[hexed steppe]

spaghetti code ig

good info on it tho

[vapid kiln]

I shouldn't have to move at all

But probably because it wasn't intended for 1 shot builds for it to work properly

[hexed steppe]

ik, there are a lot of things that shouldnt happen.. notably, ninja builds

but we adapt and overcome

[subtle bluff]

HH has a bug with the GE.

[hexed steppe]

or in your case, overtake

[subtle bluff]

Go to range and you can see it

[vapid kiln]

But I just moved to reset ge buff, and 1 hit the named easily, if I don't move it doesn't 1 shot and cancels my determined

Kinda glad I just figured that out, it been driving me nuts, because in the range it 1 shots the named target everytime at just 22m

[subtle bluff]

....

Named and not named isn't causing the issue..

[vapid kiln]

Obviously did you not read what I just typed

[vapid kiln]

.

[mint axle]

-# Yeah, I also noticed that the double damage only applies to the first shot after the bar is filled, then until the bar is full again (cougar symbol) it will deal increased damage but not double.
Probably some weird interaction with the headhunter damage limit.

[subtle bluff]

Over it.

Trust i've read your stuff enough. More than I should of cared.

[obsidian lava]

My library is improving😊 . Anything to Improve in this striker, momento build?

[vapid kiln]

Not everyone will understand things the same as you, no need to get aggravated with someone... @subtle bluff

Like damn dude

[subtle bluff]

nor simply explain your content better is or isn't helpful for the context.

[vapid kiln]

I'm sorry I can't explain it how you want, nobody is perfect

[solar sable]

go like this

[mint axle]

-# if I was you guys I would accept that the GE is kinda broken with HH and move on, after March it won't matter after the event end anyways.

[solar sable]

why are you typing in extra lower case

[mint axle]

-# I like this font

[solar sable]

lmao

[cerulean smelt]

as far as you can tell. who knows after awhile both global events might get mixed in

[subtle bluff]

weeeee

weeeee

[solar sable]

REEEEEEEEE

[keen plank]

Anyone here use the Beacon in a buff build for teammates? What gearset do you use?

[cerulean smelt]

in another server Truck says it's good but haven't given us their build

[burnt bone]

Typing quirk ig

[keen plank]

Nice. My current teammate buff build is OD, coyotes and a gr9 with vindictive

[cerulean smelt]

i've tried it out, found it pretty underwhelming just like harrier

[mint axle]

-# IMO, when we talk about damage, beacon just lose to the coyote.

[cerulean smelt]

more like Overdogs you mean?

[mint axle]

-# Overdogs doesn't share to teammates

[burnt bone]

Don’t think vindictive is really worth, bleed is pretty badge

[solar sable]

what does vindi do again?

[cerulean smelt]

no, but build changed from having coyote to having overdogs damage wise

[burnt bone]

Spread status

[keen plank]

16+ crit chance and damage to teammates and yourself for 10 (15?)seconds

[mint axle]

-# That is not the point that me and the guy was talking about

[keen plank]

Perfect vindicative is 21+

[burnt bone]

Oh I’m thinkin of smth else

[subtle bluff]

the CHC unless your guys unCHC yourself which wouldn't be a good idea isn't that cool.

The CHD is what you're shooting for.

[solar sable]

hmmm

[obsidian lava]

ok

[keen plank]

That's creeping death on backpacks

I did also test out with overwatch instead of the OD chest but lost a lot of damage so didnt think it was worth it tbh

[subtle bluff]

oOOkkkay what is being said here..

I need context. What are you trying to do?

Support build of some sort?

also at what level of content are you shooting for?

[keen plank]

Yeah, just want to incorporate beacon but earlier responses doesn't seem worth it

[subtle bluff]

Having teamate huddle together isn't always the best idea.

Are we trying to do a support OD build? @keen plank

[burnt bone]

Hmmmm tbh I feel like the minimal team chd gain from vindictive is less impactful overall than smth like killer

[keen plank]

Yeah, just for heroic stuff

[foggy imp]

How’s the Harrier pride backpack? Comparable to the momento or maybe better to use ?

[solar sable]

Memento is way better tbh

[subtle bluff]

Do you want healing?

There's a balance what do you want?

[burnt bone]

From what I’ve heard Harrier isnt that goodge

[subtle bluff]

Pretty much compares to memento in different ways.

[burnt bone]

Oh really

[keen plank]

Hmm, not healing. Just buffing teammates with damage and dealing damage myself