td2-build-advice

[autumn totem]

RNG my friend

[solar sable]

can definitely swap Strikers chest for Ceska Oblit

[autumn totem]

target backpacks and run CD or summit

[timid token]

Oh

[subtle bluff]

it's all in that starter guide..

[timid token]

I already read it😂

[autumn totem]

Thats my plan, just need good striker gloves. Have a chest in my box waiting lol

[subtle bluff]

You say that..

[buoyant perch]

I messed up the weapon mods earlier, here is the corrected version

[timid token]

Thx

[subtle bluff]

I swear that's explained in the guide...

[solar sable]

my mini guide has that info too

[autumn totem]

I seriously need OVD already...been trying for 2 weeks now 😫

[solar sable]

Ovd please, not OD as it stands for Ongoing Directive

[smoky latch]

I want a PS chest with double crits and GC, been farming for weeks and this is the closest I can get 😄 And I'm actually farming, hahaha

[subtle bluff]

meeeee toooo

20% AoK is a lot.

[smoky latch]

Yessir

[subtle bluff]

I should put that in a showcase run

[smoky latch]

When I'll be back at 999 PS fabrics I'll try crafting again. It's mind bending

[autumn totem]

Hmmm might have to look into that chest 🤔

[burnt dock]

Best build for the 1886 ? Using the hotshot atm but not very consistent

[smoky latch]

I use this for solo farming

[solar sable]

it's fun
I run Chainkiller and Gift, maybe I have the wrong setup

[subtle bluff]

they both work.

I have the tested numbers some where.

[smoky latch]

Don't think the numbers are too different since HH does the heavy lifting

[burnt dock]

Thank you are all the stars towards hs damage ?

[smoky latch]

HSD main stat, WH secondary stat

So on Fox's you want HSD, same for the Breaking Point pieces

[burnt dock]

Thank you 😆

[smoky latch]

Yw

[subtle bluff]

TBF if you're having issues with hotshot MMR's you're not gonna have a better time with this.

It does less dmg overall and you have to know when to you need to stack HH or not.

[burnt dock]

Are you guys for hs all the time or just hitting wherever ?

[subtle bluff]

gameplay wise I can see issues.

[burnt dock]

Guys going*

[subtle bluff]

One shots require HS

I should say HH requires HS kills.

[burnt dock]

Constantly ? With the big sniper I get 1hs and hit wherever then

[smoky latch]

You can use the Tac .50 to get going and then swap to your actual mmr or rifle

Or focus on red bars and get going that way

[burnt bone]

Are you using the 1886 with hotshot?

[burnt dock]

I run the tac 50 but I want to run the 1886 but it’s not consistent I find

[subtle bluff]

wait wait..

[subtle bluff]

Give us context on hotshot not consistent.

[solar sable]

1886 and hotshot don't work together big bro

[burnt dock]

With the tac 50 I get 1 hs then hit anyone anywhere and get 1shot. I try thr 1186 get hs kill a couple guys then it does half damage to one

[burnt bone]

Read what hotshot does

And then look at 1886’s weapon type

[burnt dock]

I know but I want a build with the 1886 hence the first question xd

[solar sable]

which got answered here

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mWk2Jgg8uJX3hkturWAET95gizwVHReoOOayO-ixe6U/edit?usp=drivesdk scroll to the bottom 👍

[solar sable]

this is what the build should do
https://medal.tv/games/imported-clips/clips/mbJfw8TCUWjXOa3ej?invite=cr-MSxKd2QsNDY3Mjk4MzIw&v=158

I hope it loads and has no mic sounds on or else I'm gonna kill myself

[junior lagoon]

is there a strategy for solo heroic retals? there are alot of them and they hit like truck

[subtle bluff]

Kill before they shoot more at you.

[solar sable]

nego would do awesome

[solar sable]

chow, can you confirm if my medal link has mic noise or just gameplay?

[subtle bluff]

DL that instead

I got it.

Sounds fine

[burnt dock]

I will definitely try this build

[burnt bone]

Headhunters fury is also peak if you want to be a bit closer to the enemies

[burnt dock]

Sweet I’ll try them both 😝

[burnt bone]

It’s been kind of all I’ve been using since I made my set haha

[subtle bluff]

That's hotshot.

[burnt bone]

Is the secondary white death?

[solar sable]

yeah, it's there as a backup and first shot dmg

idk why but my White Death doesn't have its white camo on

[onyx sage]

headhunter's fury showcase

[burnt dock]

Gad damn is that regulus pistol ? 😮

[onyx sage]

yes

[burnt dock]

I am busting for that trying to get the magnum blueprint first but that’s my number 1 gun to get

[onyx sage]

keep farming them control points, you'll get it

[buoyant perch]

you misspelt aimbot

[burnt bone]

No dien is just the LeBron of div 2 😤😤🙌🙏🙏🙏

[burnt dock]

Hell yeah do people not raid as much these days ? Took me days to find one run 🥲

[burnt bone]

Think you just have to look in the right place

[onyx sage]

try looking for GCRock discord, can't paste the link here but you can either google it or use the discord server browser

[burnt dock]

Thank you I’ll see if I can find it 😀

[subtle bluff]

My bio has both of the bigger public servers if you can find them.

[misty walrus]

does repair skills core affect amour repair of refractor?

[shy willow]

no

[smoky latch]

Just Skill Damage

[timid token]

How my build my chest peace is ceska

I just need more stats point

[solar sable]

killer on your m4 and 🤌

[timid token]

So it good ?

On my gear and everything

[solar sable]

it will hold until you get the right attributes

[timid token]

Alr

[magic pilot]

uhhh chest talent

[solar sable]

i uhh... uhhh... what

[timid token]

?

[magic pilot]

tamper proof

[solar sable]

you also need Obliterate on your chest

[timid token]

How I get that

Wait I’ll just search it up

[civic meteor]

Using the backfire which talent should I put on chest armour?

[grand girder]

Depends on your needs tbh, can run obliterate for some more damage or unbreakable for a second life

I use glass for extra amp damage

[solar sable]

or glass for no life

[grand girder]

so real

[copper yarrow]

for a striker bighorn build, would it make more sense to get CHC to 50% or dump eveything into HSD?

[subtle bluff]

BH is only special if you hit the head. Otherwise just use aother guy

[buoyant perch]

Go full crit because you need to break helmets sometimes. BH's talent already gives you a ton of HSD.

[copper yarrow]

makes sense. Ty

[tiny flax]

Healer/support build?

[hazy steeple]

Most content in div2 doesn't really need a healer, it'd rather you be more focused on killing stuff.
but there's a few setups in the spreadsheet 📌 pinned i this channel.

[tiny flax]

Helping low lvls getting bored of dps lol but i see what you mean

[hazy steeple]

I'd honestly recommend status builds for that, it's pretty funny the first time a new-SHD sees a fire eclipse setup.

[tiny flax]

Would Armor on kill be good on striker bild?

only problem i go dowm too quick still

[subtle bluff]

use cover

[tiny flax]

I know i know xD i get flanked and they take shield down in 3 hits

Stupid me thought DMG out of cover meant for me..

[subtle bluff]

Decoy is very good

[tiny flax]

How does decoy work?

[buoyant perch]

it creates a hologram of yourself for enemies to shoot at

[tiny flax]

Do they ignore me completely ?

[buoyant perch]

it takes some heat off you

[pearl token]

Is their any good heart breaker builds for legendary? Apologies am somewhat new

[subtle bluff]

For solo?

[pearl token]

Either solo or group play? I’m assuming it would be a different build from ur MSG

[subtle bluff]

HB is lower on the DPS is the issues normally it's not recommend for leggo play.

[pearl token]

Ahh thank u then

Does the Lexington work with the collectors mask? I got conflicting answers online. Apologies if this has been asked before?

[subtle bluff]

With what?

Collectors mask?

[pearl token]

Yes. It’s the mask that allows you to share the same perk if your weapons are the same type, I understand that on the mask it says it can’t be named however, again I’ve seen multiple built online where it says that you can use it but also a few words it says you cannot

[subtle bluff]

Tinkerer....

No. It's named.

Idk where collector comes from..

[pearl token]

Thank u. Apologies had them mixed up. And again, I understand it seems as a stupid question however, again I saw multiple builds online with it stating that you could use it and that it worked even showing gameplay my apologies. I got the names mixed up as I was looking at all the exotics.

[subtle bluff]

You're fine. There a lot of incorrect information out there on the net. Div2 has probably one of the most confused.
The wiki doesn't help either no keep that updated correctly.

[pearl token]

That’s why I wanted to make sure before I wasted my time grinding out for it just to find out it doesn’t work. Again, I understand it’s self-explanatory but was told otherwise due to the Lexington being a specialized weapon. Thank you.

[uncut fable]

guys what should i go for if i wanna get a dps build but i also wanna dont wanna die lmao sorry i really suck at figuring things out since there are so many stuff in the game

[subtle bluff]

what SHD are you?

[uncut fable]

266

ive just been using a basic red dps build

[subtle bluff]

Search or go to build hub and look for Starter Guide

[buoyant perch]

standard striker dps build but with exodus gloves

[uncut fable]

can i get those from exotic caches

[buoyant perch]

yes or gloves target loot

[hearty orbit]

@subtle bluff you helped me out with a rifle OD build not too long ago, I have it together now for the most part, im really liking it

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j4Km15oZKIc1Hym0y-G2nMMYDH6mqRgLiumI68E724E/edit?usp=drivesdk from here

[frail halo]

Oh sniper build

[burnt bone]

Yeah it one shots everything and heals you while doing it

[onyx sage]

i love determined

[frail halo]

So having low armor won’t make a difference

[burnt bone]

Ya

[burnt bone]

Which other snipers do you like I want to try more out 👉👈🥺

[onyx sage]

model 700

[burnt bone]

I might replace my chud shotgun son

[onyx sage]

shroud, mantis

[burnt bone]

Think I’m gonna try foam as well for the annoying runny guys

[frail halo]

Does it only one shot with snipers like can I still do insane damage with a ar? Or Lmg or smg or anything that isn’t a sniper because I can’t aim for sh!t

[burnt bone]

Neither can I

[livid sorrel]

hotshot is sniper specific

[burnt bone]

This chains

[hushed forge]

what are meta builds in DZ / pvp

[burnt bone]

Get one headshot on an enemy before the fight starts and then every shot will be headshot

[frail halo]

So by getting a headshot it causes the next shot to be a headshot causing the perk to activate again and again and again forever so long as you don’t miss?

[burnt bone]

Even missing doesn’t matter

[frail halo]

Oh

[livid sorrel]

As long as you kill

[burnt bone]

“Next shot landed on an enemy”

[hushed forge]

for real?

but every shot after that?

[burnt bone]

It only resets if you hit a shot and don’t get a kill, like for guys with helmets

[frail halo]

Bruh f striker than im gonna grind for that i mean shesh if its that good then no point in doing striker

[burnt bone]

That’s why I think I’m gonna try foam haha

[livid sorrel]

i find it falls off on the big armored guys and dogs

[onyx sage]

striker has its place

[burnt bone]

Really? I found that determined still works on dogs 👀

[onyx sage]

you can't one shot everything with hotshot after all

[livid sorrel]

It's my aim issue, i always end up missing and dropping headhunter stacks lmao

[frail halo]

I mean surely theirs a way to give you more damage like idk could you put on a cyotote’s mask or something to give yourself more damage or have the memento backpack on or something?

[tidal swan]

determined does re-proc when the dog fully dies, assuming you killed the dog with that determined shot. It does not reproc HH tho.

[burnt bone]

Oh gotcha

[hushed forge]

what does optimal determined build look like?

[onyx sage]

crit doesn't work on headhunter builds, it's just a limitation of that damage archetype

if you want to deal with those enemies more consistently, use a crit build, this is just knowing the content

[burnt bone]

Is this the tech

[onyx sage]

i do that but i use overdogs for just a bit more damage

i don't really need 4p hotshot

[burnt bone]

Yeah I’m trying to get a build to attempt solo retals so I can get overddogs haha

[livid sorrel]

youre clearly missing the harvest with determined

[onyx sage]

honestly striker works fine, idk if you've seen how i play

[frail halo]

Your shd level is only 344?

[burnt bone]

My b

[burnt bone]

Yeah I started a few weeks ago, maybe a month

[livid sorrel]

now you look really determined

[frail halo]

Oh

Wow u leveled up fast

[burnt bone]

I tried striker but I keep getting slammed 😔😔

[burnt bone]

What stretch goal farming does to a mf

[frail halo]

What type of striker are you doing? Like what combination of pieces and what weapons you running

[burnt bone]

4pc + equalizer + memento with st elmos

[onyx sage]

catch my stream some time, you just gotta know where to position, or i'll just be in DFA vc

[burnt bone]

Yeah that’s my main issue, guys spawn behind me and get to close and I can’t escape

[frail halo]

True I rejoined back during season 1 of year 7 during triple xp and went from 20 to like 150 ish and then played a bit more and got to 300 something then took a break join again literally over the week and got to 450 ish so…idk maybe it’s just the activities

[onyx sage]

you gotta pick the right position then, that just comes with time

[burnt bone]

Yes sir Mr dien sir

[burnt bone]

Can you remind me why running 2 mmrs is good

Is the first shot from white death to get high headhunter stacks

[onyx sage]

well on hotshot it's hard to main anything else, i run 2 mmrs, one with scope and one without in case i can't peek with the scoped one but i can peek with unscoped

[livid sorrel]

i run it with a shotgun for emergencies

[onyx sage]

it's not a rule or anything, you can run shotgun as secondary, but i've tried it and it didn't work for me

i don't discourage it in any way, if it works it works

[burnt bone]

Ohh interesting

[onyx sage]

for my playstyle i run HHF a lot more than hotshot, if i know i'll engage both mid-long and short range

hotshot is rarely used for me, i only used it in like 2 runs, the rest is just HHF or crit builds

[burnt bone]

What do you mainly run for hhf besides regulus

[knotty flicker]

Question, im running Pestalence because I like the effect spreading. Is the best way to get the stacks to build and spread just shooting the weakest enemies, or is there a better way to use it?

[onyx sage]

white death, m870

[livid sorrel]

That's pretty much it. Bonus points if you run Overdogs with it

[frail halo]

What gear set is good for pestilence?

[knotty flicker]

Over dogs?

[onyx sage]

obligatory disclaimer, pestilence doesn't work on status effect builds btw, it's not a status effect, just scales on weapon damage and some other amps

[frail halo]

Exotic gloves

[livid sorrel]

CoCo is good, slow to stack though

[knotty flicker]

Hmm...im still new so I have very limited gear

[burnt bone]

Oh I didn’t even think about that, I’ve been running 1886 but white death is just more damage huh

Do you still run it with a shield

[livid sorrel]

can't shield with mmrs

[burnt bone]

Yeah I mean for the pistol and shield

*shotgun

[tidal swan]

just spam anything until it dies. Don't flick around between targets tagging everything with 1-2 bullets. The more you hit a target, the more tick damage you stack. Then that stacked tick damage transfers once the target dies.
And as Enny said, keep in mind that Pesti tick is not a status effect. So stack up weapon damage/LMG damage/Glass Cannon/Vigi/Overdogs... etc.
Striker stacks don't buff pesti ticks either. But do buff the actual bullet damage.

[knotty flicker]

Then besides things like Overdogs or Coyotes what general gear/build would i focus for?

[burnt bone]

Let’s see how it goes

[burnt bone]

Have you checked out the spreadsheet and/or lvl 40 starter guide

[burnt bone]

Minus shield, plus decoy

[knotty flicker]

No, im still learning, I was able to get to heroic difficulty then I lose the ability to do content w/out a carry

[hushed forge]

isnt it better to just grind countdown

on challenging

[tidal swan]

general builds that I think everyone should have is the basic striker variants + HHF variants.

But if you're looking for a specific build around a gun or something just let me know I'll try my best to help 😄

I think the nowadays "pesti-build" is: Sacrifice+Overdogs+Foxes+3xLengmo (Backbone packpack is most common but I prefer Vigi... Vigi Lengmo is just pain in the arse to get.)

[livid sorrel]

striker

[tidal swan]

but yea... if you're just getting started and just need an overall build to play with then go for the Obliterate striker I'd say. If you want to click heads and have regulus/harvest/1886 then go for HHF or a High-End headhunter.

[knotty flicker]

Maybe, I have no clue what country down is

[knotty flicker]

Ill look into this one thank you

[onyx sage]

no i don't use shield with it

[onyx sage]

also if you're comfortable with 1886 you should still use it, it does kill a lot faster, but i like mmrs because they have additional mod slots that help me reach 100% stability mainly, that's why i don't like 1886 that much

[burnt bone]

Are you a decoy girly

[onyx sage]

emp sticky and decoy my beloved

[burnt bone]

Oh true I’m still crunching revivehive haha

Hmm I think I have to starting trying hhf in retals

[onyx sage]

it wouldn't be my first choice for retals tbh

[burnt bone]

Then I guess I’ll just have to learn positioning with striker haha

[smoky latch]

Just use cover in Retaliations. And use preferably medium-long range dps builds

[tidal swan]

I think I've done one HHF retaliation when the mode came out and it was not fun. Striker is just so much easier for that... could do a HE regulus run for giggles tho and do regulus only 😄 but I feel like kill squads are gonna be pain in the ass with that lol.

[hushed forge]

countdown mission with 8 people in top right on map. you can selectt what gear to target and you get crazy amount of drops

[knotty flicker]

I did not know that, I've stayed away from 8 person missions so far

[burnt bone]

Are there any specific builds yall would recommend for solo retals? I’d I feel like I’m using the right stuff but immediately once guys start spawning I get overrun and die ;-;

[hazy steeple]

Retal's are honestly more about positioning and dealing with spawns fast enough that you can't get flanked.

and to be 100% honest: more than a bit of luck, since sometimes they'll all pile out of 1 door, and then it's just a matter of hitting a red weakpoint every now and then to stun them all.

A DPS build with some self-sustain can help a lot, like Memento or just good old Gunner.

[burnt bone]

Perhaps I’ll just stick to groups for now 🥺

[hazy steeple]

It's the smartest play honestly. You're there more for overall speed than anything.

just ya know, all do the same CP and don't split up. Made that bad call before.

[civic meteor]

Using the backfire which talent should I put on chest armour?

[smoky latch]

Perfect Obliterate is good for that

[civic meteor]

I'm thinking Spotter or Unbreakable since I die a bit and I use pulse

[civic meteor]

what does that do?

[solar sable]

what's your build? let's start from root

[civic meteor]

It’s not optimized but you can kinda see what I’m going for

[smoky latch]

Is that HazPro on your Bulwark gear?

[civic meteor]

HazPro?

[smoky latch]

Hazard Protection

[civic meteor]

I have bleed resistance for the backfire

[smoky latch]

You cannot have bleed resistance on gear, those are mods. I mean on your green gear pieces

But I guess it is Hazard Protection then

[civic meteor]

Oh on my chest

[smoky latch]

Because Hazard Protection also contains Bleed Resistance amongst others

[civic meteor]

Yes for rn I’m weighing which talent I should

Use

[smoky latch]

I would suggest a totally different build, honestly.

[civic meteor]

Well the build isn’t complete

[smoky latch]

However if you wanna stick to that build then use Obliterate on your chest; Equalizer with Perfect Obliterate should net you a little more damage, possibly

[civic meteor]

Idek what kinda build I want I just came back to the game and am working with what I have

[smoky latch]

Idk for how long you've been away but plenty things changed and new things were added

[civic meteor]

I think a year

Six months

[smoky latch]

Equalizer chest is definitely sth you will want to farm for then

Here you can see what gear you missed during your abscence

[civic meteor]

Mm

I’m going for like a run and gun tank build

I like the backfire bc it’s fast but I have a M1928 which is almost at 140K DPs

[solar sable]

Coyote's doesn't serve its full potential with Backfire. I'd recommend going HF/Strikers with Memento and absolutely zero hazpro or bleed res mods as Memento's trophies will help with that.
You're already using an smg which translates to Close Combat so why not use Memento? You're not going to hit from afar as with an AR

[civic meteor]

So use a foundry mask and use the momento?

[solar sable]

I would use a Palisade chest with Oblit instead if you want the extra AoK or Equalizer and 4pc gearset (HF or Strikers, you choose)

[civic meteor]

What is HF

[solar sable]

Hunter's Fury

[smoky latch]

If you really wanna go all HazPro you can try this and switch to blue cores to your liking:
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1wDdwNz4fPy26yi9cOAQ4s0muy_zWEU8oF2DTLXPTMS0/edit

You should know that if you use HazPro or if you use too many blue cores you will lose out on a lot of damage

If you want some armor regeneration use the Equalizer chest and the Memento backpack as Doomz suggested

So 4pcs Striker's, Equalizer chest, Memento backpack

[civic meteor]

What is the equalizer?

[smoky latch]

United Alloys' named chest piece

[undone silo]

Guys for tipping scales is over 1.1 million armour recommended?

[civic meteor]

I think my issue is that I don’t know what I want

[undone silo]

Im liking this build so far but i feel like i need to sacrifice some weapon damage for armour im at 700k something atm

Because i keep getting 2 tapped

[rotund finch]

anyone got a sheriff build

[smoky latch]

It's a good secondary weapon but I'd personally not want to build around it

[clear quarry]

Hi whats the best chest for my pfe build? Should I leave it as is or use a fenris?

[smoky latch]

@serene flare

[strong cave]

use catharsis

[serene flare]

is that an Everlasting Gaze?

I should really get one of those. I think a DZ vendor is selling one right now, but I would need to farm up resource lol

[smoky latch]

Retaliations, blueprint.

[serene flare]

I've never been able to complete a Retaliation

[smoky latch]

Hit me up if you need help

[serene flare]

I think I'll try my luck with Resource farming for a bit

I'm at 67 resource out of the 152 needed

[smoky latch]

Try named item caches too in case you can't farm the req. DZ resources

[clear quarry]

@strong cave i just want whats bis chest wise thanks for your feedback though

[smoky latch]

Your chest should work

I would not use ARs in a CQC build tho

Consider shotguns maybe

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11RWr-X27mNuz0PLPpYT0Wm7qg2sKaVCs_xzasS8XXsk/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.d41r78y7nby0

[civic meteor]

Why is it blue instead of green?

[serene flare]

colorblind settings

[smoky latch]

I use the Deuteranopia color blind mode

[civic meteor]

Why do you say it doesn’t serve its purpose isn’t the coyote mask made for close combat? And why over the momento?

[clear quarry]

Thanks a lot I just want to know whats the best chest for the build. In terms of dmg output with my current setup Grupo or Fenris? Or something else?

[civic meteor]

Oh sorry

[smoky latch]

I'm not color blind, I just use it because it makes skill areas of effect visible better amongst other things

[smoky latch]

If you insist on using that build while there are better options just keep the GS chest

[clear quarry]

Thanks

[solar sable]

The max you can get from Coyote's at close quarters is CHC IIRC, and I already explained in that same message why to choose Memento over Coyote's for Backfire

[smoky latch]

0-15m 25% CHD

[solar sable]

Backfire already gives fk tons of CHD so why bother using Coyote's lol

[smoky latch]

Some more can't hurt but there are other factors to consider as well

Memento survivability/utility is really good

[civic meteor]

It does seem good I’m just trying to make myself justify it lol

[smoky latch]

Just gotta play aggressive with it to keep collecting the dropping trophies upon NPC kills

[solar sable]

that's the main reason why I recommend Memento for solo content when Backfire is involved
it's just so good 😩

[winter matrix]

can anyone point me in the right direction? i just hit level 40 and dunno wth to do

builds wise + gameplay

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0
MrChows starter guide could help

Check the first pinned msg in this channel; it has a community run spreadsheet with plenty info in it

[civic meteor]

Fair

I can do that

Now do I keep foundry or do I try true patriot

[smoky latch]

Neither 😂

[civic meteor]

Sad

I wanna go back to patriot but idk if it’s worth it I’m trying to be a bit tanky

[smoky latch]

If Patriot was good, sure. It is fun to play in groups tho

But if you're new to the game there are more important builds to focus on I might say. Your call tho, ofc

[winter matrix]

preciate you

[civic meteor]

Why would you say it isn’t good?

[subtle bluff]

TP is over shadowed by other things that do more and better.

[burnt bone]

Well

Am I missing anything

[solar sable]

neh

[silent storm]

3 inventory slots

[civic meteor]

Is DPS builds just better even tho you become a glass cannon?

[subtle bluff]

Dmg is king in Div2 PvE.

[onyx sage]

for most cases yes

[burnt bone]

No :(

[fair dragon]

Tan"king" is king in wasting time

Oh oops wrong server

[burnt bone]

No this is peak actually

[serene flare]

it's the right server now

[silent storm]

Div1 had the best situation for tanking, why they threw it out here I don't understand

[civic meteor]

I just feel like I die too easily

Perhaps I’m just bad lmao

[onyx sage]

it's something you can learn over time. don't be afraid to die

[subtle bluff]

learning how to use cover is a big key

[remote ledge]

hey brand new to the game, just wondering if theres any general advice to keep in mind or things to look out for regarding builds, currently not many options for me but for the future

[subtle bluff]

You level 40 yet?

IF not just play the game try everything out while you can. Learn the gameplay.

[remote ledge]

no i mean brand new lol im lvl 4 i started a couple hours ago just been exploring and playing not super story focused

[remote ledge]

ah ok thanks!

[subtle bluff]

Come back when your 40. Trust play with everything learn the gameplay once you hit 40 it's a whole new world.

[remote ledge]

gotcha, i appreciate the advice :)

[serene flare]

Thank you so much for putting me onto Everlasting Gaze
this thing has enabled so many 1 million damage tics with my chem launcher lmfao

[runic rapids]

@subtle bluff harmony as the secondary?

[silent storm]

Great gun

[subtle bluff]

works

[runic rapids]

better then emelines?

[silent storm]

What do you need Emelines for on Refactor?

[runic rapids]

i dont but the secondary is irrelevant so i just use it for the extra armor regen when im out of ammo on the main wep.

[silent storm]

Harmony is great because it is a Rifle and you really don't want 2 ARs like with Test Subject

[runic rapids]

emelines triggers as long as you shot something BEFORE it died too. so its really really good for armor regen.

yeah def not two ar's my current is a smg. so the high fire rate / decent damage + the skill has been good. but i found out about harm last night

[silent storm]

And it still provides a decent bonus. SMGs with no boosts aren't going to kill much

[runic rapids]

yeah emelines is annoying since im depending on crit/headshot combo to melt heavy enemies. since that combo hits for 172k per shot. vs the 80k base damage. the only upside is its over the 60% base crit chance. so its effectively critting more then half the time anyway. so it does hit decently hard when i need it too. but id def love to replace it with harm.

does mean i have to keep farming blueprint caches. or, farm dz. but i cant do dz till at least tomorrow because of the season xp dz bug.

[silent storm]

Do the houndsman bounty, Harmony can drop there

[tidal swan]

Just sit back and enjoy the story and the first-time experience of all the mission. Especially some of the out of DC map ones are cool that you unlock later on. Gear wise you can pretty much just equip the highest level ones until you're 40. After 40 the real grind starts and you can start learning builds and dipping your toes into harder content and stuff.
And once you're 40... don't hesitate to ask around about builds, either here or other discords. The game can get pretty bad to play if you're running garbage builds/gear, and depending what kind of background you have in other games with similar RPG type whatever gear system, it might be annoying to figure out everything yourself. Thankfully there are plenty of nice and helpful people who love helping and sharing knowledge. 🙂

[kindred mango]

Test Subject AR also has Perfect In Sync and isn’t a DZ item btw

[silent storm]

The problem with Test Subject is that if you run out of ammo you are done. With Harmony, since it is a Rifle, you will be full up on ammo in the case you run out of AR ammo.

[kindred mango]

You could say the same vice versa though or about any weapon really.

It’s an easier item to farm is all that does the same thing

[silent storm]

The point is that Capacitor is better than Test Subject and Harmony. That is why they are back ups, but since Test Subject is an AR it is worthless as a backup because if you run out of AR ammo you can't shoot it.

And speaking of Capacitor, I feel like all status exotics should have a 7.5% WD boost per skill tier. Mainly I just want to abuse St. Elmo in a status effect build lol

Also Scorp would be nice at 1/2 Red Core Power

Where are the Mantis builds hiding? Is this gun worth anything?

[burnt bone]

Probably just general sniper things

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j4Km15oZKIc1Hym0y-G2nMMYDH6mqRgLiumI68E724E/edit?usp=drivesdk

[silent storm]

Yeah I was looking trough iKias builds but didn't see anything specific to mantis

Was hoping to find a breakdown of whether or not the DMG boost was worth it

[subtle bluff]

Yes it's worth something

[buoyant perch]

just standard sniper build, no changes needed

[silent storm]

I had my invo down to 60 pieces and now I am back at 119 lol. I hate looter shooters

[hexed steppe]

In sync on refactor is ideal secondary weapon. Get yourself a mop shotgun and put in sync on it and youll maintain damage and get 10%aok that will proc while its in your hands, regardless of you hitting anything with it.

[silent storm]

I don't see a need for this. Even with PGC I am never in need of more armor on Refactor. I have even started doing stupid things like this just to give everyone bonus armor for fun

[hexed steppe]

Put it anywhere youre cheesing with determined and hit heads

[hexed steppe]

I didn't tag you in that advice

[silent storm]

I was just reading

[hexed steppe]

Shoulda read the comment I was responding too

[silent storm]

Trying to get my invo back down to just builds

I did read it and even answered it before

[hexed steppe]

And

[silent storm]

Refactor isn't short on healing and doing unneeded farming for it it is pointless

[hexed steppe]

Op is using a smg for healing that is zero help to the build. I gave an option that gives the healing while also helping the damage in comparison.

Move. On.

[silent storm]

They are also trying to get Harmony to complete it so why add a new farm to it

[hexed steppe]

Move. On

[silent storm]

Moved on

[hexed steppe]

Ty

[silent storm]

The Cherished Lavoisier Refactor is kinda fun though I think Cherished is bugged because it seems like it is still 30 seconds on the Blind instead of the 20 it says

Depending on mission though I can swap the Drone for a snare. Shock Trap works really well in close quarters missions and Foam is great for the other when you don't need the max healing

[obsidian lava]

The RNG!! got the Momento. I almost jumped out of chair, lol

[kindred mango]

A fortuitous moment 😎

[silent storm]

Don't sleep on Iron Lung either

[obsidian lava]

Fire is a fun status effect. I won't sleep on it

[civic meteor]

I was so wrong to not try momento with striker

Now do I need a little bit more armour

Maybe
But other than that this is perfect

[stray hull]

Any advice to play on heroic mode with this build

Any advice to play on heroic mode with this build

[civic meteor]

Would yall say strikers torso is worth it? It adds another potential 65% damage

[silent storm]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0

[silent storm]

What is your build?

[stray hull]

Im trying to build a sniper build hi dps

high dps

[silent storm]

yeah but you just posted a stat sheet not a build sheet

[civic meteor]

How do I know how many stacks I am getting?

[silent storm]

There will be an effect that fills up by your life bar

[stray hull]

new to this

[civic meteor]

So there’s no like number I can get

[silent storm]

No it just fills, but you'll learn it from usage

[civic meteor]

Gotcha

[silent storm]

So all you Hunter's Fury is HSD?

[stray hull]

o0o0o that what you mean by build, im just picking random pieces at putting them together with the right stats

[silent storm]

Build is a collection of gear that you equip

So you want to snipe right?

[stray hull]

yuip

[silent storm]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j4Km15oZKIc1Hym0y-G2nMMYDH6mqRgLiumI68E724E/edit?tab=t.0

Now how do you want to snipe?

[stray hull]

i dont nderstand

[shy willow]

only in certain content

[silent storm]

Are you staying in back in cover or do you want to push forward and snipe as you press the enemy?

[stray hull]

cover

[silent storm]

Do you have access to Countdown?

[stray hull]

i have 0 clue on what that is

[silent storm]

Countdown is the bottom left of the MM screen. Can you join that?

[civic meteor]

What is weapon handling?

[silent storm]

Everything in this block

[civic meteor]

Ahhhh

Y’know the best specialization pair with sticker?

Striker*

[silent storm]

Gunner is the main choice but try them different ones and see what you like

Survivalist is good for St. Elmo Striker as it provides some DMG and other affects

[civic meteor]

Gotcha

Where can I find materials better?

Just deconstruct everything?

[silent storm]

ERRYTHING!!! Unless it is a unicorn, but you need to look that up yourself unless there is a database that has them listed somewhere

[civic meteor]

lol

Welp anyway I think I just made the first build I’m actually happy with

[silent storm]

The only Unicorns that matter though really are if it is Blue Core Chest or Back with CHC/CHD or Habsburg Guard Chest with Weapon Handling and HSD and Headhunter.

Lengmo Unicorn Chest would be CHC/CHD Glass Cannon

[stray hull]

Is this where Im supposed to be

[silent storm]

For what?

[stray hull]

you asked if I had access to countdown

[silent storm]

In your map

go all the way to the right tab

And see is countdown is available

[stray hull]

matchmake is all i have all the way to the right

[silent storm]

yes go there

[obsidian lava]

Is this good?

[eternal bramble]

kinda

[silent storm]

ok so give me a sec and I'll post a vid of what you need tro do

[stray hull]

thanks

[silent storm]

Make it look like this and it is a solid gun

Good for Strikers with max Weapon Handling

You go to map and you go to the Summit and hit H to pull up targeted loot. You pick the loot you need, HotShot for quick easy Sniper Build, and then accept it. Then as you can see on my targeted loot screen Hotshot is the targeted loot. So you will get a bunch of it in there. Then you just go to MM tab and join up and smash heads and get your loot. @stray hull

[subtle bluff]

MMR's aren't a DPS weapon. They are a one shot.

[misty walrus]

how is this combat medic setup?
2 blue mods r pfe

[subtle bluff]

works alright. Generally we never recommend running around with birdies on since it does nothing for the build. But hotswapping it on once players go down is really good.

There's a better guide to explain it all in the build hub

[misty walrus]

i use waveform for normal run, should i replace it with a non exotic for a quicker hotswap?

[silent storm]

Should swap your gloves to Red Core.

[magic pilot]

id change waveform for 2nd hanu, maybe tech support bp or combined arms

[misty walrus]

the armour bonus is too good for survivability, i mean losing a bit of damage but you could take 2-3 explosive drones

[silent storm]

You should be looking for then and sending your Turret and Drone after them, They make quick work of them

Then you send your Drone after the operator that sent them

Refactor is a battlefield controller. You need this mindset to play the role. You need to send your drone after the problem children of the enemy and use your turret to keep the the heals up and local area clear.

The game even helps you by automatically attacking the biggest threat to you

[runic rapids]

i just got one as a drop

[subtle bluff]

The way you do better is sick your drone on them and not stay in one position the whole time.

Waveform is trap it’s not worth that much in value.
Put on a BP like mention above. So when you need to swap you’re not changing the whole build.

[silent storm]

I don't think people understand how to play Refactor. You need to move to an area and post a Turret to get heals. When that area is expended of enemies you pick up your Turret and reposition to get more heals.

Refactor is a very involved class. You should be glued to your Turret and able to grab it as soon as it isn't hitting anything and reposition so that it is hitting

Drone makes it easy to be lax but if you want to do more than just heal, like CC or Bomb, you need to be moving your Turret often. Not just drop and forget

[runic rapids]

10000% this and you need to be agressive. you need to keep that turret on something at all times. even if it means burning your ammo on something else. EG ill put the turret on a boss. the drone on something purple. ill be shooting reds to keep my capactor stacks up. if i lose sight on targets ill pull and move the turret. its NEVER more then a meter from me.

[silent storm]

Yup. My Turret is always on top of the cover I am in and if I need to move I grab Turret and then post it up in my new cover. It's why I never stress about Skill Haste in my builds because Refactor really doesn't need Haste. When you grab your Turret before you go 5-6 seconds is the max it'll be on cooldown

[runic rapids]

yeah! its 21s if i dont scoop. its always <7s if i scoop. i never ever leave it. its not worth risking.

[silent storm]

Even at 11.6 I still scoop

[runic rapids]

yeah those extra few seconds even 1s is life and death ❤️

[subtle bluff]

I don’t stick with my turret I normally throw in a spot where it can see the best and been seen to pull agro and do dmg. But this is group leggo play. Solo I can kind of get it.

[stray hull]

Thanks

[silent storm]

Even group leggo play I am right next to my Turret. There are some exceptions where throwing it on top of a central structure will provide more and better coverage. For the most part though where my Turret is I am there.

[silent storm]

You're welcome

By the way @subtle bluff I figured out how to record clips lol

[subtle bluff]

Gameplay and play styles make a difference.

[junior lagoon]

Heroic retals are where drone shines

Some guys just stay behind cover forever

And you nerd turret to protect you

Those fatsos

[modern grove]

Nothing to do with the topic, but did you smash your keyboard while naming your character lol?

[junior lagoon]

Equalizer or Ceska Obliterate in Bluscreen Dilemna build ?

[smoky latch]

I use Ceska GC/Overdogs

[junior lagoon]

you die with one shot i guess?

[smoky latch]

Nah a few

Cover is your friend. If you are solo use decoy / drone to distract NPCs temporarily

[junior lagoon]

darn i dont have the bp for backpack

[smoky latch]

TL

[junior lagoon]

operation dark hours?

[smoky latch]

Targeted loot, it is a part of that for a good while

[junior lagoon]

drops from countdown?

[smoky latch]

Does Countdown facilitate Targeted Loot?

[junior lagoon]

yeah but i did a countdown and did not get it while i get all others

[smoky latch]

Do some more runs :p

[junior lagoon]

guess so

[smoky latch]

Gl!

[misty walrus]

I just tested in shooting range and there is an insane amount of damage gap between the refractor and perfect combined arms backpack

max capacitor stacks is equal to combined arms active

[solar sable]

that cannot happen

[smoky latch]

Health gate is the magic word here

Or one-shot protection if you wanna call it that

[smoky latch]

Explanation

[silent storm]

Combined Arms and Capacitor was never the question. Capacitor is better than Perfect In Sync by 20 points.

[fair dragon]

We using the points system now?

[silent storm]

10 for skill 10 for DMG

Refactor BP does nothing for anyone but yourself so it is a nonissue.

If you are using Refactor BP for party you are wrong

[subtle bluff]

No there not the same.
Combined Arms is Total Skill Dmg not normal Skill Dmg.

[hexed steppe]

technically cap is 20% more skill damage, 5%more weapon damage , than perfect in sync. its more if considering dta

[silent storm]

semantics

[hexed steppe]

just putting a finer point. its still agreeing

[silent storm]

Capacitor Refactor is best Refactor

[subtle bluff]

I could debate but it wouldn't be a normal refactor anymore.
Semantics.

[silent storm]

Refactor is what you want it to be. I have been playing more Refactor than TS or Striker recently and I feel it is the supreme GS

[runic rapids]

i HATE striker. but i could not play without refactor. its my ideal playstyle. its PERFECT for me.

[silent storm]

Refactor is SUPREME!

[livid bridge]

ngl my favorite thing to do in the dark zone is melt people with my heartbreaker build, i can always tell whos running striker cause they go down in 2 seconds most times

way too many glass cannons in the 10 to 500 range rn

[eternal jackal]

I'm looking to build one of the mortar builds from the doc (leaning towards mortar supremacy). How do you all feel about Overdogs vs BTSU? Apparently they work with explosive/fire/oxi skills? #ask-td2-community message
Or is the utility from BTSU gloves just too good to pass up?

[smoky latch]

@hexed steppe dis for you I'd say

[subtle bluff]

For PvE, for pure just dmg Overdogs will do more.
BTSU can bring some heals and gobal OC. OC's mortar is more not more than Overdogs but also more radius and stats for it.

[hexed steppe]

Mortar dogs has good damage overall. Mortar supremacy is about 1 mil lower on normal shots and about 1.5 mil higher when overcharged.
Utility of btsu/stinger hive is also underrated tho.
Youll need to use brazos pieces to hit your skilltier with dogs. Off skill choice may be lacking.

Personally, as a mortar main, I still use mortar supremacy over dogs. Ymmv

[eternal jackal]

Thanks! Plus resetting everyone else's hives is a pretty nice bonus too 🙂

[strong cave]

Not only that but their other skills get a refresh and a buff for the time being (they'll be overcharged skills)

[eternal jackal]

😄 nice!

[indigo perch]

I have a growing hatred for the constant volley of drones and airbursts from legendary. Is the Measured Assembly set any good? Any builds running it?

[subtle bluff]

It does work to a degree. Target priority is more important. Letting the drone operation setup is the issue.

[slate wedge]

what’s morat supremacy?

[hexed steppe]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19mY6aOHO0R6BIq7nDFNTk2bducYQkpwsQJNDQhnekAI/edit?usp=drive_link

[manic charm]

does any1 know if pestilence status is status effect? i mean it works with OD or i'm better with bluescreen?

[cerulean smelt]

no the pestilence is a debuff

[manic charm]

so bluescreen it is, right?

[cerulean smelt]

you can or go Iron Lung as well

[manic charm]

got it, thx bud

[slate wedge]

is PGC really better than a second piece Hana-U?

[shy willow]

Yes

[slate wedge]

It should be a really small difference tho

[hexed steppe]

Yes

Amp > skill damage

You're only using the 1 hanna for extra amp as well (dont crucify, single source tsd acts as amp).

[slate wedge]

i mean AWD is an amp if you inly have one source

[hexed steppe]

You never have 1 source of red cores on a dps

Its not the same

Do you have a single source of skill damage ?

Because on that setup you have a single source of total skill damage

Either way, the setup hits between 10mil (non oc)-13mil(oc) fully stacked with my expertise.

[slate wedge]

ofc you don’t and i also trust you that PGC is more dmg than Hana-U

just made another point why you shouldn’t be crucified for calling tsd an amp

[onyx sage]

the skill damage threshold where PGC starts beating regular GC is skill damage > 50%, which is very realistic

assuming the choice is one of {10% more skill damage, PGC over GC}

aka wyvern glass over sacrifice

[rich cosmos]

What all was in the new update?

[cerulean smelt]

Realism mode, div 1 global event, anniversary event

[rich cosmos]

Did we not get a gear set?

[shy willow]

Nah it's not a full season

[rich cosmos]

I feel like my hopes were a little high but that sucks

[shy willow]

Just a truck load of cosmetics , div1 GE's, new exotics and realism

[rich cosmos]

New exotics? As in multiple

Ive only seen the lmg

[shy willow]

Bag and Gun, Harrier pride and Big Al

[rich cosmos]

Can you show the other?

[shy willow]

Tri core like memento and ninjabike

[rich cosmos]

What does it look like?

[smoky latch]

That looks interesting

[rich cosmos]

Ew

Damn I wont be able to use my favorite bp but I least I get to use the vanity options

[slate wedge]

seems pretty bad tbh

[rich cosmos]

Ehh

I mean say you don’t get hit at all, thats what, 40% damage then swapping to 40% damage resistance?

[raw forge]

hello follks, I started recently (20 hrs into the game) just hit lvl 40 and did my story mode fairview point mission. I was told this is one of the best loot farms. I cant kill stufff very efficiently and I need some help setting up an earlyy build to farm this activity. can someone please help?

[subtle bluff]

Go to the Pinned Messages > Sheet 2 > Build Hub > starter guide

[raw forge]

I would also like to know about these XP events and stuff and if they are still relevant to me since I am already 40

[rich cosmos]

Unless I messed up the math or am missing something that seems pretty good

[livid sorrel]

You only have 40% for like a second then it resets

[vernal wing]

Is a skill tier 6 damage build still viable in end game PvE and PvP?

[cerulean smelt]

never known 6 st being something in pvp, but normal missions i'd say it still works

[patent fossil]

In most content yes, but on average it's slower (and safer) than going for weapon damage.
Just be aware of missions/game modes that have hunters or emp towers that will negate your skills

[vernal wing]

Is it usually more optimal to take a hybrid skill/damage build or does that just make you worse at both?

[patent fossil]

Hybrids can work quite well, although still less optimal than full red.
It can also vary a lot depending on the skills you're actually using and the content you're doing.

[cerulean smelt]

i'm using this atm which is a hybrid skill/weapon damage build. 2 pieces i haven't had the will to find yet, but it does it's job if you ask me

[vernal wing]

Hmm. No green set?

[smoky latch]

Why blue cores with GC tho?

[vernal wing]

And is that striker drone and turret? Or artillery turret?

[livid sorrel]

To compensate for it ig? Although I feel like a different talent with reds would work better

[smoky latch]

Additional armor with GC is pretty useless in my experience

[subtle bluff]

To note we call those Gearset and yellows HE (High end)

[subtle bluff]

Hybriding the other way. =/

[smoky latch]

Is there a legit reason to do that? Did I overlook anything?

[lost wren]

what’s the main talent on big al?

[subtle bluff]

Unicorn rolls are needed to get them red.

That's all I can think.

[smoky latch]

Oh if that is the only reason, nvm

[lost wren]

oh that’ll be interesting for pve

[subtle bluff]

What's the base weapon? GR9 and what are the mods?

[rich cosmos]

No clue

[lost wren]

base weapon is a gr9???
woah

[rich cosmos]

Im very interested to see how the backpack is, its very interesting

[subtle bluff]

Idk I'm asking.

[lost wren]

ah

[subtle bluff]

It looks like it.

I need the base numbers shown.
Then you should be able to scroll around for the weapon mods.

[livid sorrel]

It's a unique gun, same as it was in Div1

[subtle bluff]

Oh.

[burnt bone]

Looks to be an mg40

[subtle bluff]

Ya I thinking that

[livid sorrel]

It's an Ameli but that gun looks like an MG 42 so you're not too wrong

[subtle bluff]

But it's not mg40 but a different version

[onyx sage]

base is m249 in game

[subtle bluff]

Ya I was gonna say with the stats.

[onyx sage]

200 mag "m249" isn't too bad

[onyx sage]

can you scroll down to reload time?

[subtle bluff]

3.22

[vague thunder]

no mods

[subtle bluff]

Weird not having mods...

[patent fossil]

I guess combo with ninjaknees to keep buff up

If it works

C2C ftw

[vague thunder]

btw anyone got talent + spec for the new backpack?

woops nvm saw it when i scroll up

[subtle bluff]

Someone posted it.

Hehe

[onyx sage]

do you have any ROF buffs on? like 3p striker, equalizer, etc.

just want to know if that's the base rof

[subtle bluff]

Or if you can turn on base stats for us.

[cerulean smelt]

notice i did say "2 Pieces i haven't had the will to find yet" chest and mask on this build

[smoky latch]

I did not see that, my bad

[onyx sage]

gonna hazard a guess and assume that he has striker on but no other rof source, then it would be 15% rof bonus and the base RPM is 1100

hmm it's close but doesn't beat frenzy

even if we assume you get the 100% weapon damage at the start

[patent fossil]

Frenzy doesn't have 100% uptime either though?

[onyx sage]

i mean after first mag which you have to dump, you can keep 100% uptime

[burnt bone]

Not with that attitude

[onyx sage]

just use frenzy gr9

[patent fossil]

Presumably you have to dump any remaining ammo in your mag at the end of every encounter and reload at the start of the next one? Must burn through a lot of ammo

[onyx sage]

well in real use not really, most encounters should be over in at most 2 or 3 frenzy mags

and you can keep the mag empty purposefully and use another main weapon

treat it more like an "ability"

it's an important comparison to me because if you can beat an exotic with just a normal lmg (not even named) it's pretty relevant, you don't lose an exotic slot.

WITH THAT SAID, big al is best used as a primary weapon imo, frenzy gr9 or similar is more like a secondary weapon that you swap to sometimes

[burnt bone]

So how do yall feel about armor now being a minor attribute on chest and backpack

[onyx sage]

I'm pretty sure that's just a bug rn

[burnt bone]

Really? It’s a diff number than the core attribute

[onyx sage]

if we're talking about the library

[burnt bone]

Well tbf it is a really random number so it could def be a bug

[onyx sage]

wait is there a chestplate with armor attribute or something that i didn't know about

[burnt bone]

No I just logged on and saw my library was different

[livid sorrel]

It's a bug

[onyx sage]

ok yeah we're talking about the same thing, it's a known bug

[livid sorrel]

Although that'd be a pretty neat named

[burnt bone]

Gotcha gotcha

It would be an interesting addition tho 🤔

[onyx sage]

can anyone test the big al to see when the 15s duration starts?

[burnt bone]

Does this just happen every so often haha

[onyx sage]

no this is the first time this happened

[burnt bone]

So this could be a feature… 👀

Am I going crazy or is perfect measured a burst dps nerf

Does the extra 8% outweigh the 10% initial loss

[patent fossil]

TWD vs AWD

[west sonnet]

has anyone tested this for builds https://shdintel.com/

[burnt bone]

Well I guess it’s just 5% more actually

[burnt bone]

Ohhhhh wait I didn’t even see that

Thanks that makes a lot more sense

[livid sorrel]

looks outdated or broken

[subtle bluff]

Broken.. I tried to make a build and it broke on me.

It's updated with stuff to now last season.

It's missing stuff

[subtle bluff]

Looking around. Some looks AI generated.

[livid sorrel]

Exotics straight up have the wrong talent

[subtle bluff]

Attributes option shows ALL attributes

[vague thunder]

sorry mate just saw your message, i already turn off the game. if i dont see anyone share it yet tomorrow i will post it

[onyx sage]

no worries, I'm in no rush

[vague thunder]

but yeah i had 3 piece striker on

[onyx sage]

no equalizer/salvo?

[vague thunder]

nope

[onyx sage]

okay nice ty, should be 1100 rpm base

[vague thunder]

just usual ceska + striker

[shy willow]

Hmm so it is entirely unique

[onyx sage]

i'm just unsure about base damage now

[subtle bluff]

It has to have mods.

[burnt bone]

Btw is dttooc + boomerang the ideal roll for sig cqb

[lost wren]

dttooc is BiS aside from lmgs

[slate wedge]

dtooc always best, rerollable talent is the best outcome

not 100% sure about boomerang anymore tho

[burnt bone]

is there a better one you think 👀

[slate wedge]

Boomerang is a pretty low DPS boost with a bit of QoL

Behind you is a 20% DPS boost but needs a decoy or group play

Rifleman has the highest potential but also need you to be accurate

Lucky Shot is big QoL

Streamline is a big DPS boost but has a harsh requirement

Sadist is best by far for an OD build or if you have an OD player in your group

[vernal wing]

Chameleon still relevant?

[cerulean smelt]

can use it if you like being in their faces for the ability to hit your targets

[deep fossil]

anyone have tried harrier bag yet?

[copper yarrow]

What's the new tiger facred buff?

[cerulean smelt]

trying, not sure how i feel about it yet, but it might be my build

[deep fossil]

i feel like it is good as for tanking instead of dps ing imo

cuz getting the stacks for dps takes quite long

[cerulean smelt]

well, it does say after taking 3 hits you get some damage resistence, but if you shoot something 3 times you get weapon damage too

[deep fossil]

smh it works well with reflector shield

since u do two things

[solar berry]

Ngl… new BP is kinda meh 😒

[deep fossil]

Is the talent for harrier bag workings properly? cuz whenever I reached the full stack in total, I don't feel like getting a separate buff

[cerulean smelt]

don't think i've ever gotten full stacks 😹

[tiny flax]

Gear shift lmg is good

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, watched someone play with it and i'm impressed with it

[tiny flax]

I just got it from season pass

good with my striker

[hushed forge]

Whats best guns now? The new mg or fixed sheriff with ambush?

[burnt bone]

For what

[hushed forge]

For end game content

[cerulean smelt]

pretty vague what you're asking in general 😹

[onyx sage]

for what build

[solar sable]

best is subjective and people are still trying to figure out new content

[hushed forge]

I have the basic striker so far

[cerulean smelt]

wish i had the new exotic lmg, i only got the named one

[solar sable]

what that do?

[hushed forge]

People were talking about sheriff being fixed and that it could be strong with ambush

[cerulean smelt]

Big Al? or the named one? named is jsut perfect measured i think?

[burnt bone]

Named lmg is perfect measured

[solar sable]

named one, is it yay or nay?

[burnt bone]

I like

[smoky latch]

MK46 with Perfect Measured

[cerulean smelt]

i MM roosevelt and a guy was running it. seemed decent 😹

[smoky latch]

Ye looks good

[onyx sage]

it's worse than normal measured for first half but better on second half. you'll have to use the second half a lot to make it worthwhile

[smoky latch]

Yeah -30% WD instead of -25%

[shy terrace]

is there any skilled exotics

that arent the capacitor

[solar sable]

doesn't mk46 have a relatively small mag?

it doesn't seem worth it if so

[cerulean smelt]

think it's the only one that helps skills

[burnt bone]

100

[smoky latch]

150 w/ large pouch

[solar sable]

hmmmm... meh I guess

[smoky latch]

My personal favorite archetype, I'll run it for a while and see how it goes

Pretty sure iKia is gonna make an in-depth video soon anyway

[cerulean smelt]

on the gear shift? i wouldn't doubt it also on big a

[smoky latch]

Ya

I got one from a cache but need to get it again from the pass to re-roll it

Haven't touched it yet

[cerulean smelt]

inaya denied you? shame on her

[solar sable]

INF seems like a nice guy, I don't know why Inaya would say no

[smoky latch]

Ouch 😂

[burnt bone]

It’s always the nice ones that have smth to hide…

[rich cosmos]

Whats the talent on the new named vest

[smoky latch]

Wyvern?

[rich cosmos]

Well its a named chest so yea

[smoky latch]

Wyvern is a brand, I'm not all in the loop yet

Perf. Kinetic Momentum I think

[rich cosmos]

No

[hazy steeple]

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/the-division/news-updates/1myuMJ5wGJFqIy2ic0mYnp/celebrating-10-years-of-the-division

[rich cosmos]

Named is the classification, it only has one roll type unique to it, most of the time being a unique talent

[hazy steeple]

Impetus Named Chest:

When in combat, each skill generates a stack while active or not on cooldown.
Stacks increase your total skill damage by 1.5% and total skill repair by 2%. Up to 18 stacks per skill. Lost when on cooldown.```

[wispy hollow]

Isnt the regular Kinetic momentum 1% Skill Damage upto 15 stacks (so 15% Skill Damage per skill) ?

[cerulean smelt]

we get 3 more stacks with perfect

[wispy hollow]

Still worth it. Going from 22.5% per skill to 27% per skill

[hazy steeple]

Wyvern's not a half bad brand choice, which is the important part about it.

damage/status/duration

[wispy hollow]

Exactly considering 1 piece bonus is 8% Skill Damage. Really good for regular tur/dro build or Refactor

[frail halo]

for the obliterate setup for striker could i swap overdogs for the striker gloves and use cyotes mask instead of strikers masks?

since i dont have overdogs

[cerulean smelt]

you can, or just utilize a grupo piece

[solar sable]

I mean yes

[winged prism]

anyone tried stuff out with the new exo backpack? havent had time to play today

[frozen haven]

This works and I hate it

[wispy hollow]

Works and hate it ? Isnt it good ?

[obsidian lava]

Crafted my first exotic from a lvl 30 merciless. Is this good?

[solar sable]

for a lvl30 player anything is good

[vague root]

I'm looking for a good AR, doesn't have to be THE best but i want a solid option
Pic shows my armor, the chest is Equalizer and my CHC is 58% without gun mods
I know Famas is a community beloved, but would Caretaker be good too?
I'm also playing around with CoCo and Strega and it looks like they synergize well with each other

[silent storm]

So this is insanely good for Skill Builds

[hexed steppe]

Depends on the skill

Turret/drone yes

[smoky latch]

FAMAS would go well with CoCo due to 30% WH. But Carbine 7, Police M4, Lexington are great too. Caretaker is fine as well. Strega is fun but more work

[proper wave]

yeah pretty sure that's the goto before odogs

[silent storm]

Wow

[vague root]

damn yeah i didnt try Famas on Coco yet, that 30% WH is very nice! thank you! Do you have any recommendation for secondary? I usually run scorpio to make rogue encounters safer

[vernal wing]

Do I need to target farm the exotic slot I need from Retal or are the exotics rng regardless of TL?

[buoyant perch]

you don't "need to" but it's just more efficient to that

[vernal wing]

So it does increase the odds?

[smoky latch]

HE Lmg of your choice with a good damage talent

[buoyant perch]

yeah target loot is like that

[vague root]

alright, thanks!

[tiny flax]

trying to make a skill build any help?

[last schooner]

is the Vigil backpack trash?

found a double crit one.

[urban pewter]

silly numbers

[solar sable]

Tipping Scales?

[urban pewter]

yeap

the build is not viable but silly numbers

[strong cave]

"Division 2 Build Video - Diminishing Returns MONSTER!"

"today's focus: all crit, doing Jack shit"

[solar sable]

LMFAO

[urban pewter]

Dies to own bleed damage "I poor blood sweat and tears into this build"

[strong cave]

😂😂😂😂 STOP I CANT

I needed that one holy

[urban pewter]

pulls up to Legendary MAG dumps heavy, heavy dies, "yeah i won" -isac "agent down"

[strong cave]

😂😂😂😂

ISAC: an agent has left your group

[urban pewter]

ISAC: you are no longer in a group

[strong cave]

OOF 😂

[burnt bone]

You do retals for random blueprints from the retaliation pool, targeting gloves for example will give a chance of dropping overdogs while hoping for the overdogs bp to drop

So it’s like you’re farming 2 loot pools instead of one

[subtle bluff]

If you search my name or refactor hybrid. You'll find something.

[tiny flax]

Got it thanks

[twin dune]

anyone got any advice on what to farm for striker?

[solar sable]

Use that quick guide or look at the Build Hub which is located in the Spreadsheet (check pins)

[burnt bone]

Thanks discord user Doomz ! :]

[subtle bluff]

My ADHD won't let me ever finish theupdated one...

[solar sable]

we tend to procrastinate lots I get it

[subtle bluff]

I'm a master at it.

[vernal wing]

Oh so I’m better off farming gear sets if I need them while going for the exotic blueprints

[frail halo]

Is there a sniper rifle that will help me hit my shot 😭 I have my hotshot build not the greatest as it’s kind of whatever I have and stuff maxed out where I can. With mostly headshot damage but dang these enemies just move all over the f-ing dang place it’s hard to hit them at all causing me to miss all my shots and not able to get headshots then there’s like no good scopes either and when I shoot I get taken out of the zoom which is annoying since I have zoom back in. Does anyone have a suggestion for a sniper and a scope to use with hotshot?

Currently running a hunting m44 marksman ride with determined

And a Lexington as my secondary for now

[subtle bluff]

The base build is something like this right?

otherwise it's just timing and taking the shot.
I don't use scopes.

[frail halo]

I don’t have overdogs so it’s hotshot gloves and my high end pieces again are whatever I have but mostly that yes

[hearty owl]

If your problem is getting the first stack then the issue isn’t necessarily with your gear or weapon

Just run foam chem if you need the ad to stand still

you didn’t mention that you’re running headhunter but that’s basically necessary to abuse determined

[deep fossil]

Have u guys found a build that is good for Harrier bag? So far I'm running foundry with either bulwark or reflector. It's decent, but I feel it's not it's true potential

[deft peak]

Does anyone have any good builds to take on some hunters?

[deep fossil]

i do have a tank build, but its a support tank build that give em debuff

[deft peak]

Could you please send the gun name?

[deep fossil]

Scorpio

[deft peak]

Thanks any attachments that I need?

[deep fossil]

its an exotic m8

[deft peak]

Can I buy it from the shop?

[deep fossil]

u have to farm it, either from countdown/retaliation/summit

[deft peak]

Yeah, I know you see. I’m trying to do the summit, but I can’t kill the hunters on the 100th floor.

[deep fossil]

its a shotgun

[deep fossil]

again, the build that i refer, is more of a support, so u need another player that is running a dps

[deft peak]

Oh, when do you have any gun suggestions that I can buy from the shop?

Sorry about the AutoCorrect

[deep fossil]

ok, you're saying?

[deft peak]

I’m asking for any gun that I can buy from the shop

[solar sable]

This is not a pay to win game

[shy willow]

they will all be trash

[deft peak]

No, I mean from the shop in the base of operations

[deep fossil]

yeah, shop from base or any kind of shop is not good at all

[shy willow]

just craft or grind for one

[deep fossil]

best to just farm it

[shy willow]

that way you can get the rolls you actually need

[deft peak]

ok I will craft one,

Any good guns that I should craft?

[deep fossil]

why not just farm some in countdown? it drops a ton of loot there and u can change which loot u wanna farm
Crafting is only when u have spare resources imo

[woeful zodiac]

Is there a good Big Alejandro build?

[solar sable]

Tipping Scales

[peak yarrow]

What Is the best exotic mask for dps, coyote mask or catarsis?

[solar sable]

Coyote's, Catharsis will never

[sweet moon]

Yoinking this valuable information for future use

[solar sable]

you can use this setup tho 👇

[signal frigate]

Hey I have a question i remember long ago someone told me a lot builds from youtubers suck and theres some Google doc of the best builds to use in division and I wanted to know if anyone has that or am I just chatting

[solar sable]

check pins tho

[signal frigate]

Its been a minute since I played is striker still meta ?

[rich cosmos]

Yes

[buoyant perch]

Yes with slightly different build

[signal frigate]

Explain good sir

[solar sable]

4pc Strikers, Overdogs and Equalizer or Ceska w/Oblit or Glass

[signal frigate]

Isnt Lexington the best ar or im wrong

[solar sable]

best is subjective, but it's a good option

[signal frigate]

Ty for letting me know genuinely im coming back because crossplay is coming survival mode

I dont remember what builds I got on my game i gotta check i know I have a meta striker build idk anything else but ill check

[buoyant perch]

3% better but I don't want to put something that is timegated for farming there

[signal frigate]

Got it

Last question what are important builds to have for the game like 3 type of builds i know dps is one but what else

[buoyant perch]

Check the pinned spreadsheet for builds

[hexed steppe]

dps like striker, skill mortar, skill refactor, status fire eclipse protocol are a few

[vapid kiln]

I cant for the life of me get a belstone chest with the attributes I need

[solar sable]

skill mortar... this guy...

he just wants people to suffer

[subtle bluff]

Why do you need a belstone chest would be the question

[vapid kiln]

1% armor regen

[solar sable]

pvp?

[vapid kiln]

For my foundry build pve

[subtle bluff]

Rip

[solar sable]

-insert The Office "Nevermind" GIF-

[vapid kiln]

?

[subtle bluff]

Div2 isn't like traditional games.

[solar sable]

tank builds, in essence, just delay your inevitable death unless it's done right and actually provides your team buffs

[subtle bluff]

You can't Tank like you would in the traditional sense.

[vapid kiln]

There is no team when solo

[onyx sage]

well in solo you can just go dps and kill everything

[solar sable]

hence:

[smoky latch]

Watch this:
#td2-build-advice message

[vapid kiln]

Not inevitable if you don't die

[solar sable]

you cannot become immortal in this game

[smoky latch]

Or kill enemies before they kill you

[onyx sage]

the thing is if you know how to dps, you don't die either

if you play enough, you know what to do so you stop dying while other things die fast

[deep fossil]

Not even if there's 2 ppl running Refractors?

[solar sable]

if they go down you follow the domino effect

[onyx sage]

if you're a red player in a team with refactors, you will still take hits that exceed your EHP, the only thing that saves you is healthgate in this case

even with infinite healing, if you take the same hit again you will die

[vapid kiln]

Artificer, foundry + shield begs to difer

[cerulean smelt]

msut take you 8 hours to kill a red bar eh?

[solar sable]

good luck taking 2 hours to complete an heroic mission 👍

[smoky latch]

Do you like spending 5x more time in a legendary mission than is actually needed?

[solar sable]

not even leggo

[vapid kiln]

I've tried all red builds i cant even do floor 10 legendary with it

[onyx sage]

this is the potential of a full red, sure you don't die as much with full tank but you'll get to a state where you just want to kill fast

[smoky latch]

I mean you are on Playstation and play with a controller. I personally cannot play FPS games with a controller, so I get that

[solar sable]

legendary is not only about the build, it requires knowledge

[vapid kiln]

Even though my dps with said all red build is 28mill at shd lvl 198

[deep fossil]

And situational awareness

[cerulean smelt]

shd level doesn't really matter

[onyx sage]

you don't just think about the build when you go into legendary lol, it's more about positioning and good game sense

[solar sable]

the Range DPS meter doesnt work, dont use it as a metric or fact

[vapid kiln]

Kinda does when it adds a lot of extra % to stats

[onyx sage]

if people can do 4 man DUA legendary with gray gear builds...

[solar sable]

so stubborn...

[cerulean smelt]

hangs head before the watch people were doing things without those extras

[hazy steeple]

Don't worry about jumping straight to Legendary, you're SHD 198, you've only just started.

[solar sable]

@fair dragon come show your No Watch, No expertise Legendary run...

[smoky latch]

You see SHD 20 in leggo ^^

[hazy steeple]

I also see people running through traffic.

[onyx sage]

we're people who've played the game a ton, you can choose to listen or not, but there are good habits to learn now if you want to make your life easier in the game

[smoky latch]

That's safer I might say

[deep fossil]

At that point, is more of a skill issue, cuz I'm sure I can't pull that shit out

🤣

[cerulean smelt]

you can, just takes time

[vapid kiln]

Be more inclined to listen if people weren't loling at what build I said I was using

[deep fossil]

Meh, I prefer to play for fun, with the pace of my own and abilities, and with friends, rather than try harding and speed run shit

[onyx sage]

if you're on the internet, you should have thicker skin sooner or later

[cerulean smelt]

you mention it in a build advice. there's better ways to do things, but eh you do you and enjoy your runs that can take a lot longer than someone who does it with a totally differnt bulid

[onyx sage]

kinda a necessity if you want to take constructive criticism

[vapid kiln]

Being rude or laughing at me isn't really constructive criticism, but aight

[hazy steeple]

Your messages came across as smug, sort of a "i know what im doing i have this build" kind of thing. Intended or not, I'm assuming not intended.
your build has a certain....look to it. A quality that is referred to by people who know what they're doing as "youtubery".

Its fine, everyone here started out exactly where you are now, and before. I was awful at builds when I first joined the server.

[onyx sage]

no one was laughing at you in the beginning, it's only later when we saw the stubbornness which we've seen time and time again here

[cerulean smelt]

the infamous "BECOME IMMORTAL WITH THIS BUILD!" and they cut videos in where they don't go down, but i assure you, they've gone down with said build multiple of times

[solar sable]

not the KVD vid on him healing full health players 🤣

[cerulean smelt]

truthfully i laughed at it when they mention "artifice + foundry shield build begs to differ" 😹

[onyx sage]

we're telling you how your build doesn't really "beg to difer" when it comes to making your life easier, i would think if you want to shorten your time doing the same content by more than half, it's something you should strive for

[subtle bluff]

Here one of 3 tanks using that.

[solar sable]

Agent. I need to debrief with Schaffer 🗣️

[onyx sage]

Agent, we've intercepted comms that indicate Sokolova's summit has already started. We don't have a clear picture of exactly where it's happening yet, so figuring that out is priority one.

[subtle bluff]

Div2 again is a very different game from a traditional sense. Bullets hurt a lot. It is not great a idea to eat too many of them too long.
Up to solo heroic almost anything is viable. So I will not say your build isn't viable but once you start moving from there you will noticed a few things you build will lack.

[hexed steppe]

start with the best while new and one will outclass most they match with

[solar sable]

that is such good advice there

nothing but facts are spoken in this chat... love it

[hexed steppe]

just like someone that learns glass early

[cerulean smelt]

i should download this video 😹

[smoky latch]

It's epic

[fair dragon]

A 1 hour Tidal video? Haha yeah ok

[cerulean smelt]

like i love that guys exclamation "no way they wiped my armor like that!" 😹

[solar sable]

I mean it comes on point that Watch bonuses are not needed to be a top player/clear missions

[cerulean smelt]

better yet, can a mod pin that message with the video? Tank build in div 2 😹

[hazy steeple]

They aren't needed.

nor is Expertise.

[solar sable]

I only know two tanks that do their job right:
BlackestBile and fiftysdeath

[cerulean smelt]

i'm curious now. new exotic backpack with Aegis? 🤔