td2-build-advice

[subtle bluff]

EP has AoK?

[serene flare]

my MMR is just a platform to use Spike to get a bit of extra sticky damage

[buoyant perch]

Very high sustained damage after the buff but I don't like the handling

[serene flare]

AOK mods

[subtle bluff]

Have you read the amount of AoK?

[serene flare]

have you seen how much armor gets regenned from using EP with a group of enemies? 😏

let me tell you, I've gone from having 0 armor to 75% from a single sticky bomb

[uncut elbow]

I know it can't replace bluescreen in Tipping Scales build, but can it be used for the fun of it?

[serene flare]

on Heroic mind you

[subtle bluff]

Just having The Mop or the brandset will give you more than 8 stats of AoK...

[serene flare]

this is the caliber of my giga cope AOK mods that I scrounged up from one Countdown run

[buoyant perch]

Yeah sure. It's still very usable. Keeping TS stack with no reload is nice too.

[serene flare]

Oh I know, that's why I'm just screwing around with stuff to figure out if it was worth swapping out

[hexed steppe]

just use memento and run status effects for your minors if you want a survival ep

[uncut elbow]

13k is ~ 0.5-1% armor on kill, if running full blue core

[serene flare]

I'll have to get a Memento first

[serene flare]

I've only got 800k armor

[buoyant perch]

Gunner alone gives you 80k AOK already

[serene flare]

yeah, but flamethrowers are cool lmao

[subtle bluff]

AoK Gearmod is like round up 19k so x 3 + 57k to 800kk vs 10% AoK
or like localdeck mentioned Memento..

[serene flare]

what's giving you that passive armor regen?

[subtle bluff]

Memento and Gunner AoK

[serene flare]

gocha

I wonder if I could swap over to Gunner and Banshee Pulse with the Vile to get some DOTs off in close quarters

being able to EP that disorient around would be nuts

[subtle bluff]

People have done that.. Issue is CD.

[serene flare]

Gunner gets RIOT FOAM 'NADES?
Okay yeah I might have to switch EP over to Gunner lmao, that's so much potential status being thrown around

also what's CD stand for?

[subtle bluff]

Cooldown

[serene flare]

ahh, how bad is it?

[subtle bluff]

Bad enough

Stick Fire just more.

You've seen what Burn EP should be able to do right?

[serene flare]

Oh yeah, but then lobbing on Riot Foam and disorient?

[hexed steppe]

1mil+ with fire sticky 😎

[serene flare]

I've maxed out at half a mil with a fire sticky
but it kills all the same

[hexed steppe]

youre better doing fire sticky and fire chem. fire is still better cc then foam or disorient

you either all in on fire, or all in on cc

[serene flare]

I'll at least give it a try

[hexed steppe]

sure, but youll be back

[serene flare]

besides, if I'm playing Gunner, my riot foam comes from my grenade, not my skills

[subtle bluff]

Double CC target doesn't do much..

[serene flare]

plus I don't really vibe well with fire chem
it's weird to play with

[hexed steppe]

you know about double clicking to ignite it

[serene flare]

you can self-ignite a fire chem????

[subtle bluff]

Yes.

[serene flare]

WHY HAS IT TAKEN ME THIS LONG TO LEARN THIS? LMAOO

[subtle bluff]

It's in the skill....

[hexed steppe]

yes, double click either q or e, depending on what its set too

[serene flare]

aight, Gunner, you'll stay completely unleveled for another year

[hexed steppe]

if you do groups, survivalist gives your team a 10% amp, and fire nades for you

[serene flare]

oh my goodness, this is crazy

[hexed steppe]

this is how you hit the 1mil burn ticks btw. youll need expertise, but till then youll still hit harder than than the current 500k sticky burn

[serene flare]

I see you use the knees too
Is it because it makes the enemies look like they suffer from white phosphorous?

[hexed steppe]

no its just what i hhad on hand. i normally used eletrique glove, but then overdogs happened

[serene flare]

I'll have to get the Overdogs
I just have such a hard time farming Retaliations. They're so hard

[hexed steppe]

give it time

[serene flare]

I mean I've done 5 of them now and failed every one

I couldn't get one CP done

[burnt bone]

group

[uncut elbow]

Could get overdog from summit glove pool too. That's where I got mine the other day.

[serene flare]

I've never gotten an exotic from the Summit

and I've done it tons of times
I get extremely unlucky
I'm missing most exotics because almost every cache I open is a dupe of one I already have

[smoky latch]

Weren't you a new player?

[serene flare]

I've been off and on, but I've been playing since year 1

[smoky latch]

Gotcha

[subtle bluff]

Not the best place for it, really RNG over there.

[subtle bluff]

And better build...

[uncut elbow]

That is true, just an alternative if retaliations are bugging their patience.

[subtle bluff]

Do it on challenge then.

Idk... Then it's too easy.

[timid token]

Yo remember you send me that striker build list

I got it now

[hexed steppe]

nice, better?

[timid token]

I was farming in countdown and it was giving me so much

[hexed steppe]

roll the attributes to crit chance

tinkering

[timid token]

So I put armor on crit chance ?

[hexed steppe]

then if youre crit chance is 60, roll them back to crit damage one at a time till youre in the 50% range for crit chance

[timid token]

K

[hexed steppe]

you can check your stats* before rolling each then youll never go over i guess

[timid token]

Mine almost to 50%

[hexed steppe]

ok, roll the rest to crit damage

[timid token]

Wait nvm was looking on wrong thing 15% lol

[hexed steppe]

oh, lol

[timid token]

Crit dmg 47%

I’ll try farm more of them to crit chance

[hexed steppe]

crit damage is irrelevant without chance so thats first prio

[timid token]

Ok

[burnt bone]

btw you dont have to farm for it, you can simply change the stats on the armor

[timid token]

Oh how I do that

[timid token]

Nice stats man

[hexed steppe]

youll have a lot of farming to do, and to grind up your level and unlock mods so dont get too hung up. as long as you get your crit to the right starting place the rest will fill out over time and youll be tearing stuff up

thatll be around what youre looking for as to fill in

[burnt bone]

@timid token

[timid token]

Can u re send the link ?

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?usp=drivesdk

You’re looking for “library and tinkering”

[plain girder]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/EzC0FZQBlMBZqJsprkC44HYKgIxjygAcaZKGeJuR4YF5a6OkM9jDn6IubH-GHq1gCBmAMy44VGHjw45kOQDZy3YqU5jxUTfjiStXYN1FRuMgUA

Thoughts on that build?

[solar sable]

pesti ticks are not a status effect

[plain girder]

Ik ill be using emp or stinger hive

This is for conflict mainly

[solar sable]

better ask in -> #td2-pvp-discussions

[gloomy star]

so im running 3 providence pieces & 2 unit alloys im at 57% chc. 2 of my sets have 1 random attribute should i go for chc, double weapon handling or headshot damage ?

[subtle bluff]

depends on the rest of the build?

otherwise this...

[gloomy star]

st elmos/lexin with over dogs

my crit damage at 199%

[solar sable]

send a ss of your build pls

[subtle bluff]

You're good.

just ya more CHD then HSD isn't gonna do anything more.

[hazy steeple]

Is there a way to upload screenshots from a console? Because right now all I can see is blue.

[gloomy star]

i got 2 random attribute should i just roll one chc to cap it & the other should i do HSD or WH ?

[subtle bluff]

If nothing you want a salvo in the build instead of gurpo or 3pc prov

[hazy steeple]

Eiffel 65 style.

[subtle bluff]

Use his phone it looks like

[hazy steeple]

I was doing that in 2007, there's no way it's the same still.

[subtle bluff]

blame the TV?

[hazy steeple]

Do consoles really not have a way to upload screenshots to an app?

That feels like a thing that should exist.

[subtle bluff]

dunno

[smoky latch]

https://www.playstation.com/en-ca/editorial/the-playstation-guide-to-sharing/

[hazy steeple]

that title looks like the most sarcastic thing ever written, I love it.

[smoky latch]

They just need to link their accs

[hazy steeple]

"the pyromaniacs guide to fire safety" vibes.

[rich lotus]

They do, On PS go on your app game library, there you see all you have, game, storage etc..

[hazy steeple]

I'm going to be honest, I am never going to own a console again. But I appreciate the info!

[timid token]

I do

I upload screenshot all time

[magic pilot]

For Xbox and ps yes

[hazy steeple]

I think the multiple replies already telling me yes are enough, Agents.

[magic pilot]

It's just laziness which is incurable

[solar sable]

yes
||||

[hazy steeple]

@magic pilot You get a pass for intro'ing me to my new obsession: elmo with a giant mag.

[shy willow]

i mean strictly speaking doesnt elmo have a giant mag anyway

[hazy steeple]

Nah, that's a big mag.
with this build it has over a hundred rounds.

[final spire]

which version is better for a pistol build. i have tested in few heroic (full grp). but i couldnt figure out

[solar sable]

for groups Vigi is better than Unstoppable Force

[final spire]

the pistol doesnt have much precision+IA set (+100% increased threat), im kinda force to go in extreme close range like 5-10m range for my 1. HH buff. so its hard to keep vigi up

[onyx sage]

use a shield

[smoky latch]

Wdym it's not precise??

[final spire]

when shield get hit, it doesnt count?

[smoky latch]

It's got awesome accuracy

[onyx sage]

yes

[final spire]

not precise! some shots just doesnt land there where the crosshair is on mid range

[smoky latch]

If you said that about Regulus, okay, but this one has great stability/accuracy

[solar sable]

use Bulwark shield, its awesome for pistol builds

[final spire]

stability is max out on harvest. but the scope is much bigger than a head so its just not always landing hs for me

[solar sable]

custom crosshair lol

it solves some problems like some ingame crosshairs not being accurate or so I've heard, dont take my word as valid

[onyx sage]

the bullets just land on center of the screen always, the crosshair just makes it more apparent

[final spire]

my crosshair just moved because i made SS. but just to show here its 15m distance its already much bigger than the head so its not always accurate

[onyx sage]

the intersection is where it will land, you can estimate it with practice or use a custom crosshair

heck you can draw a dot with a marker on your monitor and it will work

[solar sable]

dont forget the tape

[final spire]

i will try out the custom crosshair thing:D

[final spire]

+shift to hold aim

[cerulean smelt]

so ninja bag with Imminence + true patriot? 🤔

[magic pilot]

It's pretty sick ngl

First 100 mag Elmo build that doesn't suck

[grand girder]

3pc brazo and UA go brrr

(for legal reasons I'm not this stupid)

[slate wedge]

use an IA chestpiece with hh and go foxes instead then

[final spire]

i dont have IA chest atm

[magic pilot]

I'd use whatever has the highest first shot dmg

[shy willow]

if youre using a pistol id run DCH tbh

overdogs are great but it REALLY helps with starting chains which is gonna be the most annoying part

[final spire]

ye same thats what im aiming for. so i just use fox prayer. because its constant there. on top i notice i was using a scope which reduce the optimal range by 25% which is kinda huge just for 5% extra dmg. after i swapped that it feels so much better

[magic pilot]

What talent are you running on harvest?

Ah nvm I see

[magic pilot]

I'd run the handling sight, mainly for reload speed

I'd also go vigi like the others said

Firewall could be worth running in groups if you really need more dmg

[subtle bluff]

Or just use a MMR's or Rifle's

[magic pilot]

Pistol should be fine no?

In heroic I mean

[subtle bluff]

on solo Heroic all they should need is HHF but that's a mood point now..

[magic pilot]

I usually go HHF in solo (regulus) and 1886 rifle build in groups now

[final spire]

im just bored. so i try to make some new builds so i have reason to grind stuff. ye i have swap to vigi with shield. and on heroic it works to 1shot most of the enemies in a full grp

[autumn totem]

Is a catharsis build good for all around stuff?

[solar sable]

for pvp most cases and very niche applications for pve

[copper yarrow]

Which build is that

[proper wave]

does anyone have a tinkerer striker chest lmg build

for paradise lost lovebirds

[grand girder]

probably just fox's with tinkerer 4pc striker and gr9 with frenzy and measured

[slate wedge]

just go Backfire Striker

[slate wedge]

why foxes when contractors exist?

[grand girder]

I'm taking dttooc over dta any day of the week

[slate wedge]

you already get 12% dtooc from LMG bonus so you basically increase your damage by only 7% (not factored in Demolitionist) bonus while with contractor’s you get the full 8% AND 15% weapon damage since it’s peteov

[hexed steppe]

Why tinkerer or contractors when overdogs exists

[mint axle]

Tinkerer might be useful with some other kinds of builds that are not DPS, I think the real question would be why bloody knuckles exist.

[strong cave]

Quietly sneaking back in

[dense flume]

I'm building a sniper build any tips

[patent fossil]

The spreadsheet linked in the pins has a guide to a few popular variants

[gloomy lichen]

What is better on a Elmo-Striker build? Ceska with CHD Mod or Equalizer with CHC mods?

Both have Obliterate

[lost wren]

assuming you’ve maxed out your chc from your watch levels, equalizer is better

[proper wave]

camping the spawn area so would prefer something longer ranged

[slate wedge]

which spawn are?

[proper wave]

lovebirds when you first enter

baiting one of them to seperate to come to you

[patent fossil]

Sounds like gate strat

[proper wave]

yeah that

[patent fossil]

Most experienced players here hate that, taking 20m to do a fight that can be won easily in 5m. I'm not an expert, but I'm sure someone will point you in the direction of a better approach.

[proper wave]

I will probably do that when I am comfortable with it but for now I am pretty unfamiliar with it

so, still trying to see a tinkerer striker chest lmg build to base off

[subtle bluff]

With either when Salvo is around.

[subtle bluff]

My bio. Video how incursions should be done.

[slate wedge]

Salvo???

[subtle bluff]

Tinkerer isn't that good overall.

[subtle bluff]

Salvo and either Bloody or Overdogs.

[slate wedge]

he specifically asked for a tinkerer build with LMG, Contractors clear Salvo easily

[subtle bluff]

Other than one shots, anywhere you'd use foxes, Salvo is better now for DPS numbers.

I see that.

[tepid linden]

General question from someone just getting started. I'm level 15. When trying to pick out weapons to use, is it better to use a high damage weapon with small clip and average rpm or use a weapon with high clip capacity with less damage?

[stark dawn]

I would avoid bolt ones like M700 (until you are higher in level and have the talents), but playing from 15-40 with rifles like M1A is quite feasible, and it actually has been the preferred weapon in the first 3 or so years (due to different build constraints).

[subtle bluff]

Just try everything. Nothing matters till you're 40.

Learn the gameplay, try everything out. Trust that once you're 40 it's a whole new world. Learn the gameplay and have fun trying stuff out while you can.

[obsidian lava]

First exotic less goo. Reached lvl 40 yesterday

Is this supposed to happen?😲

[hexed steppe]

yes

there are a few different caches like that in the journey iirc

[solar sable]

@shy willow Underoos! 🗣️

[copper yarrow]

Dawg Tp is such a fun gearset

works good enough even on Heroic

[magic pilot]

#td2-build-advice message

[magic pilot]

I can help teach you lovebirds, it's really easy to practice since there's a checkpoint

[obsidian lava]

Building a shield striker build. How to improve it?

[subtle bluff]

Or we give them a good old raucey video.

[smoky latch]

Here are a few options for you:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lIa85JQ4JsipRUTfFO6NtS7IkMSNp7Ws

[copper yarrow]

Interesting, I use a same build just use Devil'd due instead

[magic pilot]

Little further under that linked message is a few other variations

[subtle bluff]

Devil's due where?

[copper yarrow]

devils due bag on that build instead of Ceska vigi

[subtle bluff]

I don't see? Devil Due is a really bad named gear.

[hexed steppe]

use a damage talent chest and use memento bag. memento gives you 2 shield tiers and the skill efficiency is essentially shield health boost. use tech class for another free shield tier and artificer to provide further shield repairs (also augmented by memento skill efficiency in the form of increased repair skills)

[copper yarrow]

Cool I got it

[hexed steppe]

here is my generic memento copy pasta:

Memento is the hardest working single piece in the game.

I look at all it does. Cores and long buff only (at full stacks) represent:
-45% weapon damage
-2 shield tiers
-free armor and skill core
Skill efficiency (% in all Skill Buckets™)
-30% skill damage
-30% status effects
-30% skill duration
-30% skill health
-30% skill haste
-30% skill repair
-# skill buckets™️
-3% armor regen

Short buff adds temporary core dependent boosts. so weapon damage, more skill efficiency, bonus armor.

[magic pilot]

Lvl 100 memento and mortar knowledge

[simple sky]

Is 1.1 mil per shot when fully into my build good for my smg

[alpine glade]

EB build

Using

EB, AA12 and Quickstep

One mask
One kneecaps
One holster
One Backpack
Equaliser chest plate
Overdogs gloves 🧤

Any advice to improve that? Open to all ears won’t budge on the Overdogs tho. Grinded for those mf’s.

I’m only shd 306-310 so no crazy damage yet. But yeah. All advice is welcome.

DPS build^ ofc

[simple sky]

How get over dogs

[alpine glade]

Hyena retals. You’ll get the gloves 🧤 or blueprints and just build em.

[solar sable]

that doesn't tell anything about the build itself

[simple sky]

It was more of a question i am just wondering if that’s good

[smoky latch]

Striker's honestly. Eq / ODogs or Eq / Memento

[solar sable]

what's the build?

[slate wedge]

depends on:

• the content
• the build
• the group buffs
• the playstyle
• the group size

[magic pilot]

dps is more important than bullet dmg on an smg. if thats a vector or smg-9 its pretty good. not insane. if its the thompson smg then im not even remotely impressed

[slate wedge]

for reference, i once hit 7 Mil with Ouroboros

if you get that that amount of dmg per bullet it’s good no matter what

[burnt bone]

What if the enemies I have to fight are the demons in my head

[slate wedge]

any damage number will be enough

IRL is a pretty easy shooter game

[hazy steeple]

mirror match!

[burnt bone]

It’s not a mirror because I keep losing 😔😔

[hazy steeple]

You don't seem to understand what a mirror match is, but that's okay.

[burnt bone]

Okay ❤️

Yay ❤️

[shy terrace]

uhh what exotic (not mask i hate mask exotics /s) to go with iron lung CC build

[burnt bone]

as in crowd control or concentrated companyy (CoCo)

[smoky latch]

Iron Lung is good for DPS builds, not for CC builds

[shy terrace]

i mean CoCo

i forgot CC was a general term

[solar sable]

overdogs is the way

[shy terrace]

how do i get them?

[solar sable]

Gloves TL or Hyena Retaliations for the crafting blueprint

[shy terrace]

got it, can it drop from prio missons then?

[solar sable]

ye

[subtle bluff]

as mentioned above maybe missed. Measuring a build output of dmg by per bullet isn't good. DPS is the real measure of output. There is a calculator in the Pinned Messages to help you with that. The range one is buggy.

[burnt bone]

Ok wow I wasn’t a true hotshot believer until now, I just took it through a stronghold and I slapped everything the moment it spawned 🙏 🙏

Determine White death is peak

[solar sable]

streamline my beloved

[burnt bone]

Yes but skill issue

[buoyant perch]

Try the SR-1 and .308 too!

[subtle bluff]

M700 too

[burnt bone]

Yeah the sr1 looks fun don’t think I’ve gotten a good one to drop

Well actually it’s more than likely that I’ve dismantled a good number of open talent snipers

Because I didn’t think I would ever use marksman rifles haha

[subtle bluff]

The full build it also good in leggo and master runs

just need to note for helmet dudes

[burnt bone]

What counts as the full build :3

Is that like streamline and regulus and stuff

[subtle bluff]

minus weapons

[tidal swan]

what are the numbers compared to 2xHabs+gift compared to 3xHotshot?

[subtle bluff]

why Gift?

I've seen Chainkiller and 2x Habs.

[shy terrace]

look im no pro but why weapon handling over crit damage or crit chance? Do you not need the Handling buffs?

[subtle bluff]

Crit does very lil and % is too low for it needing it for already doing the dmg you do. It more helpful than crit for some weapons and at range it can be helpful.

[shy terrace]

I see, makes sense

[mint axle]

Plus M700 is way slower for reload and re chamber compared to white death.

[shy terrace]

I didnt know that

yeah weapon handling matters in that case

[subtle bluff]

But it's a mag vs a clip

[mint axle]

The way it was manufactured is not an excuse.

[subtle bluff]

M44 is 3.90 reload and m700 is 3.62

reloading 1 or 2 rounds sure M44 wins.

But then M44 is only 5 rounds while M700 is 10.
I hope you're not confusing M700 vs Model 700

[tidal swan]

well if you go overdogs+chainkill+2xHabs+Airaldi then you still have 1 slot to use

[subtle bluff]

Why would we go Airaldi then?..

Number wise people use Chainkiller and 2c Habs then hotshot.

The build to keep it simple is what I posted

[tidal swan]

I was literally just asking what the numbers look like because I was too lazy to go and pull the set bonuses in front of me to read... I wasn't trying to suggest anything, nor was I implying that it would be a better way. Or anything like that. 🤷‍♂️ but yea seems like 2hs 2habs would be the way for the highest MMR dmg. That's all I wanted to know, thanks.

[subtle bluff]

Hasb does win but the effort to farm 2 for the +5 more WD and extra 13 HSD isn't worth for newer players.

[onyx sage]

in actual use i take white death over it because it reloads from empty faster than m700 ever will

[subtle bluff]

Not disagreeing just for newer players.

[onyx sage]

also, model 700 is 7 rounds

unless you mean carbon or something

oh nvm you listed carbon in the pic

(say carbon in the name pls people)

[subtle bluff]

but I'm saying m700 not model 700....

[timid token]

Should I just do all striker gear

[onyx sage]

i mean that depends heavily on context too, you can't assume all people won't abbreviate model 700 to m700

[strong cave]

Absolutely, 6 piece striker is a full on meta 💯

[onyx sage]

if it's carbon, just say carbon

[timid token]

K

[burnt bone]

4 striker + equalizer + a ceska

[strong cave]

Jokes aside, don't. 4 piece is fine, chest you won't need. Backpack is preferred

[burnt bone]

Or overdogs if you have it instead of ceska

[subtle bluff]

bleh

[timid token]

I accidentally delete the equalizer when I had it 😂

[strong cave]

Ceska oblit is still good

[timid token]

Is that chest piece

[burnt bone]

Have you looked at https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?usp=drivesdk

Pretend it says equalizer when it mentions ceska chest + obliterate

And overdogs is better than coyote mask but I imagine you don’t have that yet

[tidal swan]

once again not in any way what I was suggesting or why I was asking. I was asking purely for selfish reasons 😄

[mint axle]

Overdogs is overrated IMO.

[burnt bone]

The kill squads have not been nice to me 😔

[burnt bone]

Why’s that?

[subtle bluff]

sorry what?

[onyx sage]

wait, hear him out, cuz i agree depending on the content

[subtle bluff]

To a degree I'm on that but... ya

[timid token]

So it is chest piece 😂

[mint axle]

Well, in a group, using coyote might be more useful than overdogs cause you are giving crits to other players. But the main reason I don't like overdogs is because it depends on the enemy class, so not all enemies on field will have that damage benefits in combat.

[fossil crag]

just becasue i say they are as seen on tv gloves, doesnt mean they are not good. lol

[timid token]

Oh forgot to tell you I got police m4 yellow thingy

[subtle bluff]

I would post something but I'd get a warned...

[timid token]

For what

[burnt bone]

An enemy will always have the damage buff tho?

[mint axle]

And others will not?

[onyx sage]

it does depend on the content. tier 3 is a really big category for enemies to fall under. most of the time the content spreads the distribution out so that you can readily target tier 3 enemies without much risk.

it's really when the content has set compositions that force you to deal with wrong tier enemies that overdogs really falls off. but i would only agree in legendary/master/some other content where you are forced in one way or another to deal with wrong tier enemies

also, they have to be in combat with you for overdogs to "consider" them, so you can control the population somewhat

i run legendary a lot, and because of that i rarely ever run it because i just don't have that bonus active for the strategies i use. it's only a few fights where it is consistently better for me

[fossil crag]

yeah its a regular gun as we all said

[burnt bone]

I mean my understanding is if you shoot the correct tier you’ll always have the buff

But tbf I don’t have them and everyone else knows a lot more than me :))

[onyx sage]

you'll get them eventually, and you have to run them in various content enough times to really get a grasp on how effective they are

[fossil crag]

at the end of the day its your game. you spent your money on it if you dont want to use them or a peace of gear or gun and you lets say use coyo mask over the overdawg gloves then do it coyo mask is Stear no matter what.

[burnt bone]

No I have to do the most damage all the time or else I’m a bad person and no one will love me ever again :(

[shy willow]

🙋‍♂️

[fossil crag]

in here, yes LOL dont let them ever see a fire build with a scorp not a cap gun LOL you will be burned at the stake

[burnt bone]

What if we burned at the stake together… 👉👈🥺

[magic pilot]

Fire is weak that's why...

[mint axle]

Some players said that to me once on a mission, outcome: my eclipse build killed more than half of the enemies of the mission.

[fossil crag]

i was already for that but i have super power i set them on fire insted

[burnt bone]

Waow… so cool… 😳😳

[fossil crag]

im like a young berry alan

[burnt bone]

Can I be the esrever to your flash

[tidal swan]

not on hard diff! ||who tf speedruns on hard?||

[hazy steeple]

You do give me cherry vibes.

[fossil crag]

you dont make sence at all

[fossil crag]

zoom zoom

[magic pilot]

only people who cant play harder difficulties. try that stuff on heroic bud

i can easily beat your washington hotel time on story

[tidal swan]

bro I already did the solo, are you jealous for being second? My clan does this easily faster. All our clan times are faster... oh god I should stop reading comments... 😄

[mint axle]

You might be a speedruner, but average got his reflexes

[magic pilot]

its honestly hilarious how many people dont even understand whats happening at all

they watch the runs and think either 1. you are cheating or 2. its super easy and anyone can do it

[tidal swan]

never fails to make me laugh and slam my head on the desk simultaneously 😄

[tidal swan]

3. "build please!" "can I have the build bro?" ...

[magic pilot]

staple division comment on literally any video ever

im pretty sure theres a comment asking about the build under Rauceys OSP video

[tidal swan]

I once had a goat viewer replying to one of those "build please" comments with "bro stop asking for the build, it doesn't matter if you made the same build you'd still need a team and months of grinding to even get close to this run" 😄 I wish that guy wins life. I think it was in the inc WR vid where I tried to explain to so many people that "it takes multiple builds for each player/role in the run. I'm not gonna list all of them lol."

[magic pilot]

yea group content is probably the worst place to ask builds. if you are watching 1/4 pov and you see in the video at least 2-3 build swaps. do some basic math and realize how many builds it is for the whole team

1886 was one of the best buffs we've ever had imo

[tidal swan]

makes me wanna go ask that in his "viable build" vid

[magic pilot]

there was literally a guy trying to tell Raucey his build doesnt work

[fossil crag]

LOL!!! \

thats comical

[fossil crag]

raucey the speed runner

[magic pilot]

this is a good one too

[burnt bone]

What’s even the context here lmao

[tidal swan]

what is a DD build?

[magic pilot]

16 minute run or 2 15 minute countdowns and a 8 min clear LMAO

[fossil crag]

same

dundgins and dragons..?

[magic pilot]

no idea

[burnt bone]

Dih devil (marvel rivals reference 😇😇)

[magic pilot]

https://youtu.be/bNtU3BIEkhM?si=E7Ow1sxLBfzmSZKi

[onyx sage]

reading comprehension is a basic requirement here, until you realize how so many people out there don't meet it

[onyx sage]

@magic pilot is the new average... he's taken up the mantle

[buoyant perch]

are you building a team? Of averagers?

[magic pilot]

a team of averages

[tidal swan]

Can you guys come up with a memey support build? Like... something that says "you shouldn't run this, but technically it works and makes sense". The memier the better. 🙂 don't ask why. 😄

[onyx sage]

holy shit this is a cool name

[subtle bluff]

Avg support player here

[burnt bone]

Tbf on the cheating thing, some of yall are so good your aim looks like aimbot haha

[buoyant perch]

blue future with pointman and perfect galvanize

[onyx sage]

blue OD called

[tidal swan]

honestly... I don't hate this that much... which skills?

[buoyant perch]

one is shield for pointman so the other is whatever, foam?

[tidal swan]

alright alright... attributes? Scorpio obv for a main weapon right? other guns don't think matter at all.

[buoyant perch]

personally still crit everywhere

[tidal swan]

oh god...

[sweet moon]

I require wisdom from the experts, what's the play for a tech build for Legendary/Master? (And general use, if applicable)

[subtle bluff]

What's "tech" in this context?

[sweet moon]

Drones, turrets and such like that. They seem pretty damn good from what I've seen

[magic pilot]

headshot

BH as main weapon

[sweet moon]

Appreciated, time to go to work

[karmic zodiac]

Finally got a Lexington what would be a good build with it using ridgeways?

[subtle bluff]

Strikers

[karmic zodiac]

Strikers and ridgeways?

Never thought about that

[smoky latch]

Ridgeways for PvP - OK
Ridgeways for PvE - Not good

[solar sable]

wanna apply bleed? go OD, it's way better

[grand girder]

Wanna apply self bleed? Backfire

[uncut elbow]

Do all of the above for bleeding

[solar sable]

wanna bleed? ninjabike

[vagrant rain]

Does anyone have a great build with a Quiet Roar for master difficulty?

[smoky latch]

Tipping Scales is good for LMGs

But Quiet Roar is not a great LMG

[vagrant rain]

Plus I'm a very noobie person when it comes down to build or understanding the build words and stats lol

So tipping scale?

[solar sable]

Lvl40 Starters Guide

[burnt bone]

Then master is probably not a good idea yet haha

[vagrant rain]

I want that sheriff 😂😂😅

[uncut elbow]

Once the manhunt ends, it'll end up under legacy manhunts and I asusme it'll still drop then

[solar sable]

like every other climax exotic it will still be available after the season ends

[burnt bone]

Thanks doomz

[vagrant rain]

Well then I shouldn't be in a hurry then lmao

[subtle bluff]

Also most build aren't weapon specific.

[vagrant rain]

It's the only named LMG that drops for me

[smoky latch]

Why do you want to play a named LMG?

[hearty orbit]

quick SMG question,

I am running a build that @solar sable gave me the other day (love it btw) just not too crazy about managing the bleed with back fire.

is ouro any good or is it just hype?

and if i were to run a HE smg would i better off running Dark winter or a tac vec 9?

[burnt bone]

I think most non named LMGs are better than quiet roar haha

[vagrant rain]

Always thought they were better than non named lmgs

[hazy steeple]

Only if it means their talent/special attribute is better.

[smoky latch]

While some named items can be better than HE items, it always depends on several factors.
If you look at the Quiet Roar, the talent is not great compared to others

[hazy steeple]

It's best to think of exotic/named/whatever as all the same tier, just build dependant.

[burnt bone]

Well, I’d say bell ringer is objectively better than its regular counterparts 😤😤

[hazy steeple]

It does free up space in groups!

[uncut elbow]

Easy way to get rid of teammates for sure!

[smoky latch]

Nah, that ususally applies to the drone VFXs 😄

[burnt bone]

Sometimes you need some fresh faces in the party 🤷🏻‍♂️

[hexed steppe]

bellringer >>> bat sfx

[uncut elbow]

why not both at once

[hexed steppe]

add explosive delivery for good measure

and use mender seeker obv

[uncut elbow]

Certain way to clear the party OR get like minded people in the group for whatever cursed run you're doing

[solar sable]

oreo is mainly hype that happened... a year ago or so which now means it's dead

Dark Winter is nice although I can't think of a good HE smg rn

[uncut elbow]

Converted SMG-9 variants? (I think that's the name of it)

[solar sable]

oreo hype was because it got buffed rpm wise which made it amazing but then it got nerfed

[autumn totem]

Just got bighorn 🔥

[solar sable]

I can't imagine smg-9 as a main weapon tbh

[hexed steppe]

i cant imagine smg as a main weapon.

ar or lmg so much better

[uncut elbow]

Tbh, neither. I'm a bigger fan of the SIG MPX or CMMG if I have to use SMGs

[uncut elbow]

Mortars all the way as main weapon.

[solar sable]

Backfire for close combat is good, I don't disagree with u in any way

[uncut elbow]

Mortar build was my main build before I originally took a break so Idk how much it has changed usage but it was super fun to mortar/cluster mine everything

[hexed steppe]

mortar being a realtime skill, not hitscan, has to be one of the most satisfying skills. nothing like timing a long range shot to just decimate adds running towards you

or spawning or whatever

were you using hardwire?

[uncut elbow]

No, HE + Waveform

[hexed steppe]

this is what i normally use. its Mortar Supremacy in the build guides

[uncut elbow]

This was WAY back around New York DLC so a lot has changed since then

[solar sable]

do not the unicorns

[hexed steppe]

thatll hit around 10 mil if you match the expertise on the skills and fully stack capacitor. 13mil hits when oc is active

[uncut elbow]

That whole left side of your items must've been a nightmare to farm

[solar sable]

deck has that build x4

[hexed steppe]

i have 4x. each alt has a copy

[solar sable]

for all 4 characters, he's a menace

[uncut elbow]

Menance, addict or a nerd 🤔 All seem fitting!

[solar sable]

all of the above*

[hexed steppe]

this is also a newer version that utlizes overdogs and can hit around 11-12mil fully stacked

i still prefer btsu setup tho

[uncut elbow]

I must admit. I've checked out his builds linked on his profile.

I grabbed my striker build from there 😂

[hexed steppe]

nice, with dogs or was it before i updated

[uncut elbow]

I'm rocking without dogs at the moment

Equalizer + Salvo and Elmo has been my go to at the moment and I'm loving it

[subtle bluff]

ceska will do more than salvo with Equalizer

[uncut elbow]

Yeah, but then I'd overcap CHC as my build is atm 🤔 but I could probably swap a chc stat for chd on one of the pieces

[hexed steppe]

all roads lead to overdogs

[uncut elbow]

I used to love Hunter's Fury in Div 1 and early Div 2, but I have not used it since I started playing again. Mostly striker is everywhere when you're looking at guides/builds for dps

[hexed steppe]

use nego, youll thank me later 💯

build same as striker

[uncut elbow]

So Equalizer chest, OD + 4 Nego and what weapons?

Any I enjoy or something specific?

[hexed steppe]

yeah. i use bluescreen, but any ar or lmg will do the job. as long as you get your crit up

you want to hit 60% chc cap because the talent transfers crit damage to all marked npcs. so more crits, more transfer

[uncut elbow]

Bluescreen and Lexiton may be a decent play. I assume you'd want a good fire rate with decent dmg for it

[hexed steppe]

yeah. you arent relying on stacking so thehre is some wiggle room. better burst will always be better choices

[uncut elbow]

Last time I saw someone use nego was a speedrun of Legendary capitol building solo and they used a shotgun 😅

[hexed steppe]

i run it like above, the cool thing about nego and overdogs... as long as your target youre hitting is lowest tier, that amped damage will transfer to any other mark regardless of the marks tier.

if you are good at chasing spawns, it wipes the floor

nego is super underrated, but capable of out damaging striker in target rich environments

[uncut elbow]

Relearning all the spawns is my biggest challenge right now. And groups not knowing the limits of their builds. Definitely gonna give it a go and play around with some different weapons

[hot folio]

Can someone help me set up ala load out? I hit the lvl 40 skip when I bought the dlcs alongside the game jus now and am confused as heck

[subtle bluff]

there's a lot...

If you scroll up or hit search for "Starter Guide" that's gonna be the easiest.

[hot folio]

where is the hit search for starter guide?

[subtle bluff]

You on mobile?

[hot folio]

no

[subtle bluff]

Top right. Just type it in

[hot folio]

okay thanks!

[copper yarrow]

What do you guys think about using perfect focus and overdogs with red striker/nego

[shy willow]

Focus meta died along with shield peeking a long time ago

[buoyant perch]

Damage wise it is fine but it's clunky to play

[copper yarrow]

sadly I wasn't playing div back then

[subtle bluff]

If you want to you can do Red FI, P. Focus and Overdogs, using Dr Home

[copper yarrow]

This is more like a Support build right?

[subtle bluff]

Hybrid thing..

It works in raids.

TBH hasn't been used with Overdogs.

It's really that, Dr.Home procs FI talent.

And build around that.

It probably does pretty decent dmg now with overdogs.

[copper yarrow]

Cool I will try it. Ty man

[subtle bluff]

the only thing is HSD would be better for dmg but that's up to you.

[uncut fable]

guys i just returned to the game whats the rec build for solo pve

[tidal swan]

overall just a basic striker (there's a few variations).
Or if you like clicking heads then HHF-Regulus.

[uncut fable]

alr thanks

[uncut fable]

tks for le tips

[smoky sigil]

What are your preferences for main AR to run? Besides lex and elmos

[subtle bluff]

any +790 rpm. Killer is best solo.

I don't use AR that much.

[smoky sigil]

Dark winter/acs varient

[misty walrus]

Tbh, i cant find any better ar after getting elmo

Lmg mag size, fine dps and talent

Dont rlly get the overhype of eb

[subtle bluff]

Elmo can't do this

[subtle bluff]

But LMG do more overall

[subtle bluff]

IMO it's a noob Trap.

[visual python]

Are overdogs in the general loot pool? I missed out on them during the pact.

[misty walrus]

i was tripping 😁

[tiny flax]

Anyone got a Ongoing bluescreen build

[solar sable]

I wouldn't recommend an exotic in OD

[tiny flax]

What gun?

[solar sable]

I run this although you can alternatively use Wicked instead of Vigi

[hexed steppe]

i actually really like bluescreen on OD, pair with carnage for a higher damage option if needed. bluescreen status talent goes a long way when you have entire rooms staggering. you just run it the standard way with wicked bag and overdogs. crit chance rolled on 3rd attribute

[tiny flax]

ive seen vile mask be used or overdogs better

[copper yarrow]

Weirdly enough I feel better when I'm using an 8x scope on Lexington for the P. Focus talent

I feel like my gameplay has improved lol

[tiny flax]

Whats best mods and talent for lexi

[devout iris]

so what build goes with the sherriff shotgun? cause i was thinking of HF

[burnt bone]

Killer and whatever gets you to 60% crit chance

[tidal swan]

Vile ticks gets buffed by Status Effect and Concussion nade damage. Throwing Vile into a build that doesn't have high SE stat is kind of useless. And OD afaik is a lot better as a crit build than as a status build so it's better to buff that weapon damage instead of giving the build a mediocre tick damage from vile.

[broken edge]

still running a basic HF with memento so far, too lazy to dig up virtuoso to see if the range advantage of sheriff lets you get the bonus more easily

[smoky sigil]

What are some builds specific for countdown?

DPS preferably

[patent fossil]

See pinned spreadsheet, build guides for lots of different builds. Dps options include striker, tipping scales, concentrated company, ongoing directive, all will work well in countdown

[smoky sigil]

Thanks, for my secondary weapon when I check my crit chance/dmg the values are different (less) than my primary (they both have same attatchments and skills).. when I look at the contributing pieces for both my primary has more. Is this a visual thing or is this actually how it is supposed to work

[tiny flax]

Overdogs it is

[hoary raptor]

Is there any great hardcore builds anyone recommends? Don’t want to be a glass cannon not sure what to go for in SHD level 225 so not maxed either

[uncut elbow]

Probably blue core striker could be a viable option. Tho I have not played much hardcore agent after 40

[delicate kite]

Does Scorpio benefit from Status Effect attribute bonuses?

[hexed steppe]

Vile is low tier for ongoing directive. You get way more out of overdogs. The other good option for OD is tinkerer mask

[tidal swan]

No. Scorpio statuses are buffed by the amount of pellets you hit (first shot pellets are the only ones that matter afaik. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.). That's at least for the shock... not sure about the others tbh ://

[solar sable]

because different weapons have different mods and attributes

[junior lagoon]

what is tech efficiency? i.e increasing artificier hive's expertise gives tech efficiency

[broken edge]

skill efficiency is all skill related attributes

similar to weapon handling is acc/stb/reload/swap

[junior lagoon]

so you are saying tech efficiency = skill efficiency ?

or it means skill efficiecny, duration, damage etc..

[subtle bluff]

It's Skill Efficiency only towards the one "Skill Tech" that it's buffing.

[tidal swan]

chowster... now that we're on the topic of tech hive... you got any clue what it buffs in smart cover? I noticed it does stim it when the cover is deployed, I just have no clue what it actually buffs lol.

[subtle bluff]

I've used smart cover the least

no idea

[copper yarrow]

Currently using a red striker build with Overdogs and a measured Lexington. What would give the more damage, striker chest or P. Focus?

[buoyant perch]

P.focus on paper shits on everything

It's just way too clunky to use

[onyx sage]

i hate perfect focus

would never use it ever, definitely not 3 years ago or something

[junior lagoon]

I tried smart cover at army terminal marauder battle after seeing in a video but didnt do anything

[buoyant perch]

Is it in the files?

[copper yarrow]

Damn why so

[junior lagoon]

The guy in the video was keep firing under marauder's bombardment, i died instantly

[silent storm]

Perfect Focus and Baker's Dozen used to be my Shizzile

[hazy steeple]

A gun that rewards you for missing and a Talent named "perfect focus" are the funniest combination since Close+Personal on an MMR.

[onyx sage]

i was sarcastic

[silent storm]

It's called overwhelming force, if you don't need to reload you just keep on shooting until they pop up

[hazy steeple]

it's best to add the /s honestly, even if you are incredibly blunt, there's still a chance someone misses it.

[subtle bluff]

Blunt here

[copper yarrow]

Oh okay lol my bad

[subtle bluff]

using 8x scope to do DPS all the time..... is weird.

[copper yarrow]

I've been playing for an year now so I honestly don't know if the talent was modified some way

[subtle bluff]

just how the gameplay works.

No it hasn't changed really.

[silent storm]

CQBSS is the best

[copper yarrow]

Okay cool. For some reason I'm dying a lot less since I've started playing with an 8x scope lol

[subtle bluff]

There use to be a peaking cover thing with scopes that got fixed

[copper yarrow]

What was that if I may ask please

[buoyant perch]

Peaking was peak 🏔️

[silent storm]

Zoomed in you could shoot through cover

[copper yarrow]

Wow

[subtle bluff]

not thru but show a lot less of yourself

[copper yarrow]

That sounds insane lol

[copper yarrow]

Oh okay okay

[subtle bluff]

iirc I could be wrong but the scope was like scoping thru the end of your barrel or something line that

[silent storm]

It moved the reticule and allowed a different firing line

[subtle bluff]

cheesey

[silent storm]

yes

[autumn totem]

So do all roads really lead to overdogs? Or can I get by solo with just a good momento build

[vapid kiln]

Are tanky builds worth making if I'm not 1000 shd lvl, kinda seems pointless to be tanky if I struggle to kill things because the lack of red attributes

I'm shd lvl 170 btw

[subtle bluff]

Memento is always good for solo.

[subtle bluff]

You've got the idea.

Bullets hurt a lot. It's not a good idea to try to eat them.
Div2 we do not have any true DR or threat table for tanks.

[vapid kiln]

Because I tried making a heartbreaker build but I struggle to kill things, and I die anyway because things that are shooting me don't die fast enough

Whereas with my striker build stuff dies before I even get anywhere near low hp

And my thought is, because I lack the full shd watch bonuses to make up for the lack of dps in a tanky build

[astral kraken]

I guess it depends on content. But IMO you kinda need BK for everything to synergize well. You really need 0 seconds spent reloading to make up for the DPS loss of BK and single target damage loss of turmoil. There's also the issue of Striker chest losing 2x stacks per second when above 100 stacks (which BK mitigates).

[subtle bluff]

P. Tank is BACK?!

Wrong channel. But also you should take a look at the Pinned Messages > Sheet 2 > Search for "Starter Guide"

[twilit jackal]

cant find it

[strong cave]

I've fallen in love with turmoil recently

[subtle bluff]

here ☝️

[clear quarry]

Hey guys whats better 4.6 chc mod or 10.2 chd mod?

[clear quarry]

I only habe these 2 options in vendors im a new player so I just multiply 4.6 x 10.2?

[hexed steppe]

If you dont have any of those type of mods get 3 of each, then as you farm better mods just replace them with the higher value mods

You wont need more than 3 of either

[clear quarry]

But are they equal?

[hexed steppe]

They have different purpose

Crit chance determines how many of your shots will critical hit. Crit damage is the multiplier which a shots damage is multiplied when it is a critical hit

[tiny flax]

Anything to improve?

[hexed steppe]

Basically for damage builds you push for 50-60% critical hit chance and dump the rest of the attributes/mods into crit damage

[hexed steppe]

Looks good from my house.

[solar sable]

solid

[clear quarry]

Ok thanks i think i understand now

[tiny flax]

I could change 1 armor core for dmg but i go down too quick

I think im good for dmg tho

[solar sable]

you do you, for me that armor core is there for emotional support lol

[tiny flax]

I scrapped my Elmo lol

[tiny flax]

Very true xD

[cosmic dock]

is coyote mask any good for dark zone/conflict

[subtle bluff]

only thing is acs12 isn't really needed here. SMG or someting else could be used here.

[tiny flax]

For striker stacks

[subtle bluff]

Mid depends if you have a team that building around having it but even then.

[subtle bluff]

You don't need to pre stack with striker .

[solar sable]

you don't need to focus on that if you're not using Strikers chest

[tiny flax]

I see thx

[cosmic dock]

do yk what else i could use? i wanna go for pestilence lmg

[tiny flax]

Should i use exotic smg?

[solar sable]

put Brazen on that bad boy, for example

[subtle bluff]

For PvP?

[cosmic dock]

yes

[subtle bluff]

You can Ouro is a good choice in your case

[tiny flax]

Is there a buildm without gear set?

[solar sable]

can but up to you
you can use an smg-9 with Unwavering/Measured as backup

[subtle bluff]

gonna point you here so we don't get this confused #td2-pvp-discussions

[solar sable]

High End builds ye

[tiny flax]

Do you have a build like that?

Just AR

[subtle bluff]

It's lil more to farm to note

[cosmic dock]

well that chat is kinda dead so should i switch off to catharsis

[subtle bluff]

A mix of something like this it depends on what you're trying to do in the end.

[subtle bluff]

There are less PvP than PvE so you have to wait generally for the good ones to get back on.

They get back to you.

[cosmic dock]

alrr thx

[tiny flax]

Thank you i dont like stacks lol strikers is annoying

[subtle bluff]

Go OD build then

[tiny flax]

On going?

[tiny flax]

is this good?

[subtle bluff]

no

[solar sable]

Wicked on your bag and Sadist on your Lexi

[subtle bluff]

You can build the build in the clip I posted.

[tiny flax]

Oh srry thought it was a skill vid ill check it out ty

[solar sable]

Chow has those as Build Showcases so people can see what they're capable of

it's not about ego or anything related

[subtle bluff]

You can see just by numbers how much different the build is doing.

[solar sable]

to be sure, is Overdogs vs Tinkerer a dumb comparison for OD? I think they are not on par by any means

[subtle bluff]

If you don't have Tinkerer use Overdogs.

Both work

[tiny flax]

Killer for Lexington fine?

Or strained?

[subtle bluff]

For what build?

[tiny flax]

Striker

[subtle bluff]

Killer solo
Measured group

[tiny flax]

Killer it is

I got crit at 59 %

[hexed steppe]

All this needs is wicked or vigilance on the bag. Fill missing mod. Weapons are choice as long as its a damage talent that procs a lot. Sadist is good, but i would go carnage named lmg with perfect sadist.
Swap out the acs 12 for carnage or bluescreen imho

[hexed steppe]

Tinkerer isnt the be all end all of OD

[hexed steppe]

really? just theorycrafting here, but 35%amp from carnage x 30% amp from overdogs seems like a pretty strong combo. hell, im hitting harder with a bluescreen on an overdogs setup than the showcase is on tinkerer

[subtle bluff]

Never said it was. Just easier to run.

I just don't like like negev

I was just running with OD Overdogs MG5 Inf on incursion tanker and it was quicker with overdogs for me for how I was playing.

[hexed steppe]

i mean, dude had almost textbook od build barring the bag talent, but its not good sounds like tinker is being pushed as meta

dogs is the stronger option

jmho

[subtle bluff]

Bag and main weapon talent.

The point of the clip is showing the upper limits of what OD can do.

[hexed steppe]

main weapon talent was irrelevant tbh

and the clip doesnt show upper limits. maybe upper limit of tinkerer

[subtle bluff]

UH?

Sadist vs any other talent isn't a just a mood point.

[hexed steppe]

*mood, mood is for cattle and love play *

[subtle bluff]

For my showcase for it run smoother and also give Trinkerer a good place to be. I'll add the strats to run Frenzy in the guide. I haven't done that yet.

[subtle bluff]

How would Sadist be irrelevant here btw..

[hexed steppe]

you can run any damage talent. sadist will have great uptime, no doubts, but im hitting harder than your showcase with bluescreen and no damage talent on it

[subtle bluff]

I've played OD Pre TU22. Post TU22 it's the solo reason I've pushed the build into the meta.

Your overall DPS is not more than Sadist weapon.

[hexed steppe]

the buff pushed it into forefront

[shy willow]

Is this overdogs Vs tinkerer in general or specifically for the incursion

[subtle bluff]

General.

[hexed steppe]

in general.

[subtle bluff]

I've been playing with OD being able to do speedrun in tanker incursion for a long time.

Today I tested it with Overdogs and it helped with the issues it had.

[shy willow]

Obviously when you have it up overdogs will be stronger but if you can slot in tinkerer I would

It's more consistent

[subtle bluff]

Tanker is very specific with the ads.

[hexed steppe]

i agree. but its still hitting harder than the tinkerer setup .

[subtle bluff]

Depends on the trinkerer setup..

[hexed steppe]

arent you pushing upper limits tinkerer in showcase

[solar sable]

I can't imagine Vigi, Overdogs and Carnage with the build at max compared to Tink w/Vigi

[subtle bluff]

It a showcase... No exp on the weapon...

[solar sable]

I'll have to try it fully, squeeze as much data as I can to see if, in theory, it's better or on par as I asked before

[hexed steppe]

i think they are at least on par, but i also think dogs will be stronger

[shy willow]

Off my head overdogs will hit harder but again it's down to consistency for me

[solar sable]

That's where "a dumb comparison" comes in, because it seems like they are on par

[subtle bluff]

The point of the posting the clip were 2 reasons. I am being lazy to explain what he was missing. Showing what 2 missing things will add to TTK.

[tiny flax]

Lexington is fun but idk if measured will be good?

[shy willow]

Measured is one of the top talents

[subtle bluff]

Local... I am not calling that overdog or tinkerer is better or worse nor either the end all be all.

[tiny flax]

Or keep Strained

[hearty orbit]

im not sure if you guys are talking about pure top end damage

I will say, that with tink, sadist + pressure point + wicked is brain dead respectable damage

[tiny flax]

Im using salvo so Measured would work well?

[shy willow]

Killer/measured will be better

[tiny flax]

Pyromaniac any good?

[shy willow]

Quick maffs is 2.19375 (p. Sadist, overdogs, vigi) Vs 1.7641 (Sadist, pressure point, wicked)

Obviously it's more complex than that and I'm severely dumbing it down

But in general overdogs will hit harder when procced

[shy willow]

Not really

[solar sable]

quick meth?

[shy willow]

🟦🪨

[buoyant perch]

maybe normalize it to vigi both sides

[shy willow]

1.86875

[hexed steppe]

while also just discounting what one had already made that was 97% correct and just needed a couple tweaks... thats why i called it out

[subtle bluff]

You make the clips then....

[buoyant perch]

blue stuff, you are a connoisseur 👌

[subtle bluff]

Idk why we're doing the call even.. I have not misinfo anything..

[solar sable]

use ninja, way better clips

[hexed steppe]

not everything needs a clip... sometimes a simple response is enough

[shy willow]

We're arguing over nothing here😭

[subtle bluff]

IDK.

[shy willow]

Guys setup just needed minor tweaks

[hazy steeple]

The clips do sometimes come across as a little passive-agressive, even if that's not the intention, and I'm sure it's not.

[subtle bluff]

which Doomz explained

[shy willow]

Are there other ways to do it, yeah but I don't think he needed anything radical to make it work better

[solar sable]

but sir I gave the answer

[shy willow]

I forgor

[subtle bluff]

First off... Context....

[sweet moon]

Ahoy-hoy, I arrive with a (more than likely dumb) build question, could you slip Turmoil into a Negotiators Dilemma Bluescreen build or nah?

[subtle bluff]

Yes it's bad.

[solar sable]

nah, not worth it

[buoyant perch]

no, likely the worst usage of turmoil

[subtle bluff]

Doing half dmg to split more of that half dmg?

[shy willow]

√damage

[sweet moon]

Thank you for the wisdom. Shall avoid that (using Turmoil. Not the wisdom)

[solar sable]

it's not dumb to ask, it is dumb to ask and then disagree with what you don't know as we have seen for centuries over here

Car, where tf are you? -beep beep-

[shy willow]

Dead in a parking lot at some power plant

[sweet moon]

Who killed Car?

[solar sable]

Wisdom.

[shy willow]

Pen. Co something or other

[sweet moon]

Anywhom, back to the front

[solar sable]

lmfao I love this

[subtle bluff]

Context @hexed steppe
Guy wanted a non-stacking build. I mention trying OD he showed his version of OD, I assumed he didn't like his build output. So I showed him that clip. So he can see the an example of a good OD build.

Doomz explained the rest.

[solar sable]

which was fairly simple

[subtle bluff]

I should of added the guide to it.

but that's the context. I just don't see what the call out was for tbf.

[shy willow]

Just leave it as being a misunderstanding tbh

It's not worth going over

[sweet moon]

Actually. Potentially dumb question part 2, would it be worth using Equalizer for the bump to fire rate and Perfect Obliterate or are there smarter/better options?

[hexed steppe]

context:
is this good.
-no.

no explanation. maybe you shoulda just let doomz respond because it was actually better than what came across as...
"build trash, build what i told you"

[shy willow]

Equaliser is pretty popular rn

It's not taking me off PGC but it's pretty good

[hexed steppe]

so keep it going if you want, but it sounded shitty

js

[subtle bluff]

He never did add more to converstion so.. I didn't add more too.

[shy willow]

Can we go back to taking the piss out of assorted NinjaBike builds plz

[hazy steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/xdefiant-xbox-pc-ps5-ubisoft-gif-745843868406850139

[hexed steppe]

sure, im ready to drop. i said my piece

[solar sable]

As I said previously, Chow's messages tend to sound aggressive but he is a chill guy, maybe that's where that started
I'll see myself out, I wanna test the theory I made

[sweet moon]

Conveniently that's what I'm using now. I was just wondering, although I might give it whack and see what feels better

[shy willow]

Xdefiant content in the big 2026

[solar sable]

ninjabike meta 2027

[hazy steeple]

hey now.

17 retaliations down and im still struggling to get that last CoCo piece.
im starting to think that my profile is reacting to the rainbow protection.

[sweet moon]

The real one more always provides. Trust

[subtle bluff]

I said it awhile ago you just piled on...
I don't mind being called out for how I did it. But you called me out for the facts.
I drop it here too.

[shy willow]

Make it great again

[hazy steeple]

that implies it was ever great.

or ever could be, for that matter.

[shy willow]

Conceptually flawed with this gear system tbh

[hazy steeple]

"make nbb suck a bit less!" Perfect.

[shy willow]

Needs some other bonus to help it

[hexed steppe]

swap talents between nbb and nbk and then we cooking

[magic pilot]

50% increase to whatever brandset it is activating

[hazy steeple]

Careful, you're going to summon Azur from the big sleep.

[shy willow]

Looped all the way back to hexo setups

[hazy steeple]

I do wonder some day if we're going to get the Skull MC Gloves equivalent for div2,

[magic pilot]

so yea anyways we replaced all the builds in the sheet with ninjabike setups

[hexed steppe]

awe he slumbering... there was talk of perfect focus earlier and no rumbles

[shy willow]

It'd be pretty cool, some kinda big buff for not running gearset

[shy willow]

💀

[hazy steeple]

you do realise that basically kills off div2 youtubers entirely.
how are they going to make the builds worse if they're already the worst? It's a paradox. We're going to see a wave of new meta setups.

[shy willow]

We have penetrated the bottom of the barrel and are now drilling into the earth's core

[hazy steeple]

and inside it's just the sky again.

"its turtles all the way down, I tell you!"

Okay I'll shut up now, that was too dorky even for me.

[buoyant perch]

Hopefully we have another ninjabike exotic that allows wearing all ninjabike items at once. Power Overwhelming

[solar sable]

Ninja Vest:
Extremely Resourceful.

[solar sable]

now that you mentioned him, I haven't seen him in a while

[shy willow]

unnnlimitedddddd POWERRR

[hazy steeple]

Honestly not thought about them for ages.

they post just not a lot. Probably for the best.

[tiny flax]

p90 with measured is insane

[buoyant kraken]

Question so if I run this :

All modded for Armor / Explosive Resistance / Armor Regen / Protection from Elites
I replace Chest with Badger Chest and Unbreakble talent or Zero F's chest with Perfect unbreakable talent. Would this be a good build for lego/master? Or is there any other build for a tank?

[flint arch]

you're going to be shooting nerf darts into the enemies, and 5 blues is going to help you survive for a grand total of 3 more seconds

just run standard striker or any other competent dps build with 6 reds

[buoyant kraken]

this will work then?

[flint arch]

same issue

[buoyant kraken]

cause I accidently deconstructed my 2nd striker set and I really don't wanna refarm it

[flint arch]

just matchmake for challenging countdown and set tl as striker

[buoyant perch]

usable

change scorpio to big horn and you will do decent damage

[flint arch]

also tank is basically useless outside of very specific settings (IH raid) because aggro in this game is wack, if you want to be a support in a lego/master run, you do eclipse foam

or FI healer

[buoyant kraken]

to be honest I have Yellow FI / Refactor / Red striker / Striker with chest / HH builds at the moment. Just looking for a tanky or tank build to run

[buoyant perch]

change chest/backpack to ceska/groupo so you accomodate more weapon types

[flint arch]

if you want some tankiness you could probably do with a techtank build, but it falls off in high level content
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1wZI1ZEwq3qQxGwmdPnVXcGHxf7D2-xOLRm0m7bfDTlE/edit

[buoyant kraken]

I had a similar ish build but I deleted it. It got harder to do anything while in a group of 4

[buoyant perch]

well if you can't get kills then memento is useless

[buoyant kraken]

Which Is why I switched memento out and changed it differently. Then I ran a x2 man group on master tidal basin manhunt. It went well till last boss. but had to switch out to full red striker as we started getting overwhelmed by the dogs

[karmic zodiac]

What would be a good build with Lexington that doesn't use striker? ( getting bored of it)

[subtle bluff]

Striker is viable at all level's of content in Div2 there no reason to not a have set

[bright raptor]

pinned spreadsheet, Negotiator's Dilemma or the old all red all crit

[buoyant kraken]

I have one. I just deconstructed my 2nd set. which was a blue one

[bright raptor]

Heartbreaker is technically not Striker but does rely on stacks etc anyway

[karmic zodiac]

Ah

Im thinking ridgeway might be good if I build it right

[magic pilot]

I'd go pfe over techtank

[primal cave]

whats better this or running it with Equalizer chest?

[subtle bluff]

TS Chest is a trap

Stop putting exp in your gear

weapons only and some skills

[primal cave]

just stick with Equalizer chest? and yeh i know i dont do it anymore

[atomic turtle]

Explosive Resistance also applies to shields right? Also, does the Catharsis heal also repair shields?

[buoyant perch]

Probably doesn't matter because overcharged shield (invulnerable or whatever in the description) still breaks to explosion. And Yes.

[loud thunder]

It’s been years since I played just got the game on pc again and started with the level 40 skip what do I have to work towards to reach max DPS ?

[buoyant perch]

Here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?usp=sharing

by MrChow and Doomz

[loud thunder]

Thanks so much and just to double check that’s the best dps for endgame content ?

[buoyant perch]

That's the classic build. There's a more modern version of this with more damage with overdog.

Lexington AR has 3% higher dps but can only be farmed during special events.

[loud thunder]

An nice thanks for the info!

I gotta say I’m a bit lost but I didn’t know how to feel about restarting from scratch again lol

[buoyant perch]

Just read the starter guide. Or you can start from lv1 to ease you into the game.

Not a bad option

[subtle bluff]

Just throw it on the normal build and it's great.. If you run it well.

[tiny flax]

Is there Bluescreen build with ongoing?

[hushed forge]

what content should I grind if I want to get strtiker gearset as fresh lvl40

[magic pilot]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[hushed forge]

The first thing you're gonna target is the Striker Battlegear. If you don’t have any level 40 gear ‌do the first few on hard or normal (which every queue you can get into), or if you have an idea what to go for, go to Challenging. Either on Countdown or Summit.

so I do countdown or summit on challengin difficultty?

[magic pilot]

Countdown is easier since it's in groups

Summit is more at your own pace

[junior lagoon]

need a build suggestion for soloing nderson manhunt master

done it in heroic with striker but does not work for master

[rocky rain]

Hoe to switch on water in boss mission?

[timid token]

I’ll use that for my police m4 lol thx

[smoky latch]

4pc Striker's, Equalizer and Memento is common. 58% CHC roughly, rest CHD

[gloomy lichen]

i dont think bro was looking

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message

[solar sable]

how will what work?

[smoky latch]

How will what work?

[solar sable]

oh c'mon 😆

explain

huh

[smoky latch]

Banned? ó_Ô

[solar sable]

don't think so, messages slowly dissappeared

[smoky latch]

Ok. Weird

[prime flume]

https://buildstation.app/td2/builder/game/BqJhwNdi

I dont remember the attributes all i know is they are not the best

But sone 15% dmg and a couple with crit can update it once I log back on

[solar sable]

textbook Strikers

that's a quick guide, we have a Spreadsheet pinned in this channel which has a Build Hub and in depth details

[prime flume]

Gunna use this as a guide to work on my build thank you 😊

[dawn perch]

is there a way to shutdown drone peramently?

with a build

[smoky latch]

What drone?

[hushed forge]

How do i target striker gear in countdown?

Like I mean can I choose what gear itt drops somehow?

[smoky latch]

Open map, press H and select. While out of countdown open map, hover over summit or CD map icon, press H and select

[hushed forge]

thanks

[radiant dirge]

Trying to give Teamatws as many buffs as possible and heals , any other suggestions?

[solar sable]

wanna heal and give buffs? Just go FI Healer

[junior lagoon]

This s from reddit. Anyone knows this build ? """80% PfE build is a most. I ran the build with Catharsis mask, Devil's Due named Backpack, Equalizer Chestpiece and Improvised Pieces, with 5 blue cores and all proced to CHC and CHD to keep myself alive"""

[smoky latch]

80% isn't a must, it's just capped at 80%

Devil's Due is pretty bad

[junior lagoon]

This is his build for the boss at anderson master

[solar sable]

P. Clutch?

[smoky latch]

Si

[solar sable]

ew

[buoyant perch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11RWr-X27mNuz0PLPpYT0Wm7qg2sKaVCs_xzasS8XXsk/edit?usp=drivesdk

My version is pretty similar but I use ceska/groupo chest/backpack. Weapon is either bighorn or backfire depending on the situation

[smoky latch]

I used this a few times in that master mission. I don't use those builds often and I think the armor regen here is pretty redundant cuz it's not much. Will probably adjust at some point

[buoyant perch]

The key to clear Anderson boss is at least one person actually doing the mechanic. So sit back and manage the water cannons. You don't need a tank build to do that.

[smoky latch]

I ran it a few times with randoms who didn't know what to do. I kept the boss busy and told them what to do

[buoyant perch]

I just manage the water and let them do whatever. No communication needed.

[smoky latch]

Works too 😄

[junior lagoon]

I was talking solo

People use decoy

[buoyant perch]

Well you still do the mechanic solo anyway

[smoky latch]

Full red, Negotiator's Dilemma 😄

[buoyant perch]

Broken cleared the boss with full red striker which is a bit up Average's alley

[smoky latch]

Yeah I saw his run, he switched a few times

[junior lagoon]

Who is broken?

[smoky latch]

BrokenRNG

[junior lagoon]

Streamer?

[smoky latch]

Fam.Broken on YT

[buoyant perch]

https://youtube.com/@fam.broken9999

Speedrunner. Definitely one the all time 🐐 in Division.

[junior lagoon]

I have been farming brooklyn bosses with a heartbreaker tech tank last couple days, damage is low but can facetank an army as long as they are in front

[smoky latch]

Yeah it's tedious. For solo it's okay

Try sticking to more red gear tho, it's a good practice over time

My two cents from experience

[buoyant perch]

I type slow 🦥

[junior lagoon]

I mostly use striker

Actually exodus glove version is pretty good

[onyx sage]

i might go back to anderson when next season comes. being taken by requiem rn

[cloud raptor]

What’s everyone running to get the ruin mask for a build?

[cloud raptor]

Sweet

[smoky latch]

Just for the first room to make sure the boss behind the glass dies

[cloud raptor]

Yessir I’ve already done it with the global event but I haven’t done it since and my build isn’t hitting hard enough now

[buoyant perch]

We don't have reanimated now so the sniper turmoil way is really difficult. An easier way is Pfe turmoil. Go straight to the door. Wait for enemies to go there before blasting. Wait for medic to revive also. With luck you can do this solo (more people makes boss have more health)

[smoky latch]

If you play in a group you can have someone with you using a foam launcher, helps pretty good

[buoyant perch]

Nah the health scaling makes it more difficult

[smoky latch]

Yeah true

[junior lagoon]

so brazen sasy at least 6 pellets hit, that is not same as magazine size right?

like m870 has magazine size of 5

[buoyant perch]

Each shot has 8 pellets

[junior lagoon]

aha

[delicate kite]

Does the talent on weapons "Overflowing" continuously stack itself or no?

[smoky latch]

No

IIRC every three reloads you get double mag size if you reload from empty

[autumn totem]

So I've been trying for another st em to reroll that one because the stats on this are decentish..would y'all just say F it and just re roll it?

[solar sable]

yes

[autumn totem]

😫 lol I had a feeling

[buoyant perch]

Need that dtoc fix

[timid token]

Can beacon be good with striker build

[solar sable]

hell no

[timid token]

Ok

[timid token]

What about catharsis

[solar sable]

nuh uh

[timid token]

Dam

I got useless stuff lol

[buoyant perch]

Eventually you will get the good stuff 👌🏼

[autumn totem]

Welp. 😅🤣 second re roll too.

[solar sable]

holy cow

[smoky latch]

Catharsis good in PvP, not much in PvE

[autumn totem]

Ya 😅😅 my luck has been something this week...no overdogs, but two bighorns and now a perfect reroll

[timid token]

Should mine just be all striker gear or no

[autumn totem]

Momento striker st elm has been nice at SHD 210. Ole reliable backpack never fails

[timid token]

I took pic of that I don’t have equalizer sadly

Or Overdogs

[smoky latch]

You can download that image too

[buoyant perch]

Just more CD grinding 😜

[timid token]

I deleted my equalizer lol

[autumn totem]

Could run ceska piece. Its been helping with the added bit of CHC

Most definitely not perfected. But gets the job done really well solo

[timid token]

How I get the backpack