td2-build-advice

[subtle bluff]

more RPM the better

You lose a stack every second. HB doesn't have a RoF like Striker.

[shy terrace]

what would you recommend

[subtle bluff]

w/e is faster

[copper yarrow]

Tinkerer works with bell ringer?

[subtle bluff]

no

[copper yarrow]

oof

@subtle bluff can you share your opinion pls

[obsidian lava]

I'm using lvl 25 milestone armor. Is this amount armour too low for lvl 30?

The passives are nice tho

[subtle bluff]

Get to lvl 40 first before worrying about build stuff. Just try everything and learn the game play while getting there.

[subtle bluff]

MG5 Inf would have more Burst DPS and GR9 is better Sustain.

[obsidian lava]

oh my, is this rare?

[patent fossil]

At lvl 30 yes but once you reach lvl 40 gearsets are standard loot

[lost wren]

at this point in the game just pick whatever has the bigger number

game only truly starts at level 40 and after

[hushed forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL5bq2FzWqE is this a good build for solo legendary missions?

trying to find out what the meta is rn

[subtle bluff]

Normal Striker is the best for it.
A build solely isn't gonna carry you thru end game. A 1/3 of it build, 1/3 gameplay and 1/3 knowledge. It's balancing.

These content creators don't have full runs of these "GOD" or w/e clickbait title they use for these build due to how many times it take to run get a full clean run done for solo legendary. For this case it would take FOREVER to get done because how low his DPS is and TTK per ads.

[hushed forge]

wwould you have any image or video of better build?

[hushed forge]

thanks

[subtle bluff]

There are more build and info if you go to Build Hub that in gearsheet that's in the Pinned Messages > Sheet 2

[obsidian lava]

These two exotics are in my stash. I've no idea how I got these

[slate wedge]

Year 1 Bundle, they appear in your stash every time you create a new character, no matter if you deconstructed them or not

do with that information what you want

[burnt bone]

Don’t forget the 4th third… it’s Mr chow 🥰🥰

[burnt bone]

If I’m gonna keep doing legendaries/masters with yall are there any specific things I need for the other missions 👉👈🥺 or will I be fine coyote + equalizer + striker

[onyx sage]

depends on whether you wanna carry or just play casually

[burnt bone]

Hmmmm for some reason I feel like I’ve gotten rid of a harvest with determined but reading the sniper doc I now see that was a mistake 🤔

[honest flare]

For those playing a support build, which gear set & exotics are you running? (I'm running a hardcore character)

I've been going either Future Initiative or Measured Assembly with BTSU Gloves, then either the Capacitor (nice that you can get it at LVL 35) or the Bittersweet.

Anyone running Refactor and just going into skill damage to get the repair?

[burnt bone]

The standard reliable support build is Future Initiative with BTSU

With Scorpio and sledgehammer

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11__a0xEKRKX22zNtLFwQM6P44oIq_h6g07a47Fd0X2M/edit?usp=drivesdk

Heals your team and increases their damage pretty significantly

[solar sable]

you're not lvl40? then why worry

[burnt bone]

Refactor is more damage focused, but still with elements of team support through healing

[honest flare]

am level 40

[inland dagger]

Does anyone know if perfect Entrenched is in the game

[smoky latch]

Yes

Bober chest

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12Su_etkf41V0BPIdI58drnGg0XSrxDmLdz4MEbrBqSY/edit?tab=t.0
Y24 M06 D11
TU 21
Year 6 Season 1
First Rogue

[cloud oracle]

What should i be looking for to build a tank build? 🫃🏻

or a tencity build

[smoky latch]

What is a tencity build?

Do you mean the Tenacity talent from the Eagle Bearer?

[buoyant perch]

Typo of ⛺ 🌆

[cloud oracle]

yus, my b

[smoky latch]

Tank builds aren't really a good option in this game. Maybe a PfE build.
Eagle Bearer isn't what it used to be anymore but you can't go wrong using it with 4pcs Striker's and for some survivability Memento with it

[hazy steeple]

its a build that buys out 51% of your loadout slots, and then does nothing if you make credits.

[smoky latch]

lol

[cloud oracle]

ahh right, atm im using the typical elmo+striker 🫃🏻 but if i can utilise Eagle's w it too then ill be happy

[smoky latch]

SB gives you 15% intrinsic WH which helps with the EB recoil

Sorry, Striker's Battlegear gives you 15% Weapon Handling which helps you with the Eagle Bearer recoil

Plus it's strong generally

[cloud oracle]

gotchaa! ty

[inland dagger]

How do I get it

[smoky latch]

Targeted loot is your best bet

Bober is Zwiadowka brand

[inland dagger]

Does it drop in countdown?

[smoky latch]

Yeah, it's not a DZ exclusive

[hexed steppe]

anywhere

[inland dagger]

Ok

Thanks

[pliant pelican]

4 piece Concentraded

• chest Equilizer.
• or should i go for con kneepds / overdogs, or contractor gloves?
• or keep this?
• build is around Pestilence.

[smoky latch]

If it's for Pestilence you wanna use Overdogs, ditch Turmoil

And for a little more damage per tick use The Sacrifice chest piece

[pliant pelican]

ah. was followin a build my clan dropped, was goin for 55% chc & rest chd.

but i shall try that build.

[smoky latch]

Will get you the highest ticks.

If fully maxed out

(CHC on Pestilence as 3rd attribute)

[pliant pelican]

uh. the only thing i am missing to max out is my kneepads i beliv? currenctly at 45.9% chc 105% chd

[smoky latch]

One or two rounds of CD should do it. Alternatively craft

[solar sable]

qq, does your clan think Turmoil "help spread Pesti ticks"?

[pliant pelican]

oh nah not the turmoil part. they said kneepads conc & contractor gloves.

wsa mostly my thought if turmoil was good. or nah

[onyx sage]

it's really only good for headhunter and even then it's not always advisable

[solar sable]

it's a troll item, not actually a BiS or anything

[pliant pelican]

ah. welp time to try this setup instead. any recommened skills or hive & whatever ?

[smoky latch]

Can use whatever you like

[solar sable]

decoy & emp sticky are my options
use whatever you want

[pliant pelican]

ah noice

[solar sable]

also note that CoCo isn't a solo gearset, you either prestack in the range before going to a mission with lots of enemies like Legendary or use it in groups

[pliant pelican]

i have Lengmo set. / ongoin directive, vile mask / scales. and uh something else

[smoky latch]

I run this for solo play

[solar sable]

these are my builds (ignore my gr9 with Frenzy as it should have Killer)

[smoky latch]

Can even use Turmoil if you want

[solar sable]

holy unicorns

[smoky latch]

Missing the chest with GC tho

But cba to get it

I only want a PS chest with double crits and GC 😭

[solar sable]

but sacrifice is so goooood

[smoky latch]

Not for this build, this build stays how it is

[solar sable]

is that for Backfire?

[smoky latch]

For instance, ya

[solar sable]

nailed it

[pliant pelican]

i did try that, but ain't lucky on gettin all red. i have few blue main cores.

[smoky latch]

You'll get them over time, no stress

[solar sable]

farming unicorn pieces is painful

[smoky latch]

Closest I could get so far

[pliant pelican]

my luck. i feel cursed when it comes to backbone. gotten so many but never fully red lol

[smoky latch]

Not sure what I wanna do with this one yet

[solar sable]

shotty build?

a fun build perhaps

[smoky latch]

Yeah my initial thought. Could skip bloodsucker

And use Matador

Something like that, Idk yet

[solar sable]

so many ideas

[smoky latch]

If I rolled the core to WD I'd use it in my rifle farming build

Nvm I have Zwiadowka chest with HH I need to optimize

[solar sable]

I thought of something

[smoky latch]

Shoot

[buoyant perch]

Turmoil

[smoky latch]

More AoK 😄

[solar sable]

goddammit, Taro... 🤣

[buoyant perch]

I gotchu bro

[burnt bone]

It’s dogs all the way down 👀

But also that’s a good point I just got tink I should use it on OD

So ive heard gr9 is good… any others I should use?

[smoky latch]

MK46/M249 as fast firing archetypes for instance

[magic pilot]

its so strong

[hazy steeple]

I'm sorta angry at how good it is, I was missing out on it all Season.

[pliant pelican]

if, i was going to build ongoin directive. what pieces are the Go-to like mask / gloves kneepads or chest?

[hazy steeple]

that build prod' recommended to me is just....like cmon all I do is shoot things and it's somehow beating out more complicated setups.

It's the "brick to the face" of div2 builds.

[magic pilot]

its probably the best exotic they have added in years

[magic pilot]

the dmg is really close to striker as well, and its even easier to use imo

[buoyant kraken]

Does vindicator not have a reconfigure blueprint? and any viable builds or uses for it?

[tidal swan]

I don't think it has, at least it didn't use to. Just have to get a DTOC one from descent vendor which resets every week afaik.
As for viable builds: I don't think it has... 😄 I mean, you could make a basic rifle crit build and try it out. I have no idea about numbers, but I'd assume it'd do decently, depending on content. I never ended up running it since it feels a bit odd to not aim at heads. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[smoky latch]

• No reconfig and no crafting bp
• Rolls change daily

[buoyant kraken]

Im just getting all the exotics. And I just got mine after like 3 hours in descent. Tried it out and don't really like it so eh. Going into storage

[tidal swan]

oh it's daily? TIL ...

[inland dagger]

@smoky latch I been running countdown trying to get the bober but I’ve only been getting the eagle grasp

[smoky latch]

RNG sucks sometimes. Can also run Retaliations for instance. Anything with TL can drop it

[subtle bluff]

TL (Target Loot) like you would with farming most things.

[inland dagger]

Ok

[gloomy star]

anyone have a backfire build ? cant find one on the docs

[smoky latch]

What kind of build are you looking for exactly?

[magic pilot]

Its under the strikers builds iirc

Yea it is

[smoky latch]

You could switch Overdogs with Memento for survivability, whatever you prefer and suits your playstyle

[magic pilot]

Memento pairs really well. @gloomy star if you are looking for backfire incursion build the one I sent is pretty solid. Can't remember if bloody knuckles is better in some areas though

@subtle bluff

[gloomy star]

ill give both builds a try just got the weapon & wanted to see if its good with armor regen/haz pro gear since it does damage to you when you reload

[smoky latch]

You can run a HazPro build but it'll be much weaker

And it also depends on how many red cores vs. blue cores you run it with

[magic pilot]

You can get around the bleed very easily, hit an enemy at least one time and reload 3x in quick succession

You become immune after the third bleed

[gloomy star]

will ninja bp be good with 3 stikers , 1 yaahl mask & ceska chest obliterate ? 2 blue cores the rest red cores

[smoky latch]

NBB will never be actually good in PvE because you lose your backpack damage talent

[subtle bluff]

Just use 2x Ceska at that rate.

[gloomy star]

okay so 2 ceska & all strikers with striker BP or chest ?

[shy terrace]

can someoe give me a cooler (the gun) build lol

[subtle bluff]

It doesn't do dmg.

[shy terrace]

ik lol it was meant as a joke

[smoky latch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12oWmQW0wNE

[tidal swan]

Also addition to what @magic pilot said: When Backfire stacks are full, you don't get bleed anymore when reloading. The bleed only applies when you're gaining stacks, and since at 100 you don't gain any more stacks, it doesn't apply bleed.
Generally just the 10% AOK from Gunner would be enough to get your armor back that you lose to bleed if you're running full red without any hazpro/bleed resist. But if you want something to mitigate the bleed then I would go the Memento route.

[gloomy star]

much appreciated for the help

[silent storm]

Who has a fun high end build?

[smoky latch]

Could you be a little more specific what you are looking for?

[silent storm]

Something that is high end that you find fun to play

[smoky latch]

Bro, DPS, skills, healer, CC, etc?

[silent storm]

Any

[smoky latch]

I'm a boring DPS player

[silent storm]

Ohh I think I have that build

Strega is nice with the added mag size

[smoky latch]

For drone turret 3x Empress, 2x Hana-U, 1x Wyvern

Kinetic Momentum and Perfect Combined Arms or Tech Support

You will find more HE builds in the spreadsheet which is the first pin in this channel

[silent storm]

Is that a Purist?

[subtle bluff]

No

[smoky latch]

Converted SMG-9

The talent is called Unwavering in case you're not familiar

[silent storm]

I don't have that gun, and I swapped out for a Salvo because I don't have the regular holster. Gonna run this for a bit

Just noticed the shield and swapped to it

[smoky latch]

Your secondary with that build can be whatever, I mostly use Strega anyway

This slaps good too, no HE tho

[burnt bone]

So for hunters fury

My shotgun is at 48% crit chance while my backfire is at 60%

I have 3 chc mods on my armor and 10% from shd watch

I have no chc attributes, is it worth using 1 to bring my shotgun above 50% crit? I feel like that would just be wasted on the backfire tho

Instead of the extra chd

[smoky latch]

@timid token something like this, CC means crowd control

In Countdown I'd recommend to use The Setup backpack tho

With status effects and skill haste on it so you can roll the core to utility (yellow)

This is a disrupt resistant version so hunters cannot disrupt your skills

The blue attributes are HazPro, two mods are Disrupt Resistance mods

[burnt bone]

Ok I def don’t understand HF yet

I keep dying before I have the chance to kill anything ;-;

And backfire feels super weak?

[silent storm]

You need to build the ramp

If you are all red then you will die if you shoot too fast

[subtle bluff]

No get closer.
Backfire isn't all Thay great in solo heroic or below

[chrome remnant]

any recommendations as an alternate build for Strikers? I have been using Strikers for a long time and decided to get back in the game and change builds.

[silent storm]

Bluescreen Dilemma

[chrome remnant]

From the spreadsheet, is any PvP build okay to take in DZ? I play solo most of the times, except for certain activities like Countdown for matchmaking

[smoky latch]

What direction do you have in mind?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nOwUSECa-1iLhET-mW04u6oMBdIdMjFjB2Ie25ziEA/mobilebasic

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LPnA18PDgGg_dEbNI1kZVTVIMGXNHQS_

I like to recommend iKia's build collections

[chrome remnant]

something that I can run solo mostly. I am loking at other build styles because Strikers is purely red, atleast the build I have.

[smoky latch]

Red builds, good builds :p

[chrome remnant]

I did look into it, kinda overwhelmed with options to be honest, so here I am looking for a direction.

[smoky latch]

But if you play solo only it shouldn't matter much anyway

This is an alternative

If you like Pestilence

One of several good OD versions

IDK if you like skill builds

Some of the best builds can be found in iKia's collections. Browse through and see what you like I might say

[chrome remnant]

I havent played TD2 much, and the Strikers is from way back when. Kinda surprised its still competitive with some small changes

[smoky latch]

Yup, still is

[silent storm]

Still the best

[smoky latch]

I wouldn't say that but one of the best for sure

Just really easy to deal with etc

[chrome remnant]

but, I see what you mean! I think I will start with Bluescreen Dilemma. The gun looks fun.

For Dark Zones, any PvP build would work right?

[smoky latch]

Check this:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X87BwJv-I_58WAQh_bSDXRKNLBHTOi9Wtt4Bs6Pv7bY/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.sztdj4iywieh

Can be found in the community spreadsheet, first pinned message in this channel

[chrome remnant]

yeah, I was looking at it. I just assumed that PvP = PvP and DZ but wanted to confirm

[smoky latch]

Conflict builds are usually different from what I remember but I haven't touched that in ages. Maybe @fossil crag can say a few more things

He plays conflict a lot

[fossil crag]

how far I need to look up hahah

[smoky latch]

Just how different DZ builds are from conflict builds

[fossil crag]

oo yeah they deff differ jsut the watch alone being gone in conflict gotta spec way diff. and most the build in gen jsut wont work say in DZ if its a flict build IE that one sniper build I showed you

[subtle bluff]

And playstyle for PvP

[fossil crag]

with this said^ im jsut not a umbra conflict player jsut not good at it or a conflict striker player, but DZ yeah I can put in work

[chrome remnant]

so the umbral capacitor would also work in DZ. tbh, I suck at pvp anyways so I just needed a build for dz when I do it once in a blue moon 🤣

[fossil crag]

the best dz umbra (dps) all around is gonna be ninja bike 3 umbras and 2 yawl and a puls res mod 100% f that 99 crap

[subtle bluff]

TS (Tipping Scales) that kind of like a striker is new and is different.

[fossil crag]

I cant speak on hybrid umbra builds sadly

[subtle bluff]

Has far has PvP wise not much has changed.

[burnt bone]

Oh gotcha, would I be better off with smth like the perfected killer smg in general stuff

[tidal swan]

Let me introduce you to our lord and saviour: Headhunting

[last schooner]

is bittersweet trash?

[smoky latch]

Niche but decent

[last schooner]

just for healing teamates?

[smoky latch]

Also packs a bunch

You could run it with a DPS build

[last schooner]

seems like its just a standard M1A1 but talent is healing team?

[obsidian lava]

At lvl 36, my team mate led me to darkZone. Man, it was heartthumpingly exciting. Extracted 20 things. One of the rifles is called Resolute. Its awesome

[subtle bluff]

Just killer in general. Prefect versions of talents aren't always good.

[subtle bluff]

Just play the story and level till 40. Nothing really matters till you're 40.

[tired garden]

hello good day, I'm not sure if this the right channel to ask this, but anyone have a good build for rifle one shot build that can 1 hit an elite ads to proc determine

[subtle bluff]

Yes, this is the right place. May I ask what your SHD is just to gauge your exp level?

[tired garden]

shd level is 4021

[subtle bluff]

You know how HH works right?

[tired garden]

yes

[tidal swan]

chainkiller+gift+overdogs+2xBreakpoint+Fox's Prayer. If you don't want overdogs then go for breaking point gloves for the extra HSD.

[subtle bluff]

the 2 rifle one shot builds are HHF and some Breaking Point/HE gear.

[tired garden]

i know HH is head hunter but what is "F"?

[subtle bluff]

Hunter Fury

4x HF, Chainkiller, Overlords for Rifles or anything you want to use with it.

[tidal swan]

"HHF"=Headhunter's Fury = Hunter's Fury Headhunter ... Really great build, but if you're mainly going for the 1886 determined tapping from long range I'd recommend the actual rifle build for that. HHF works better on close range because of the set buff.

[subtle bluff]

Solo HHF is great. When scaling up HHF without doing these to build HH correct it can be a mess that's where the HEish version comes into play.

They both have pro's and con's.

[tired garden]

oh I see, I understand. but as for gear what is HE, I'm bad at remembering the abbreviations for division terms

[subtle bluff]

High End

brandset stuff

[tired garden]

oh!! okay, so what which brandset do you recomend for the 1 shot rifle build I want to use 1886 with determine

I've tried these builds but I can't seem to 1 tap a elite/yellow armored ads to proc determine

[subtle bluff]

As mention above already

You only need 2x Breaking and Chainkiller has it's core tbh. It can be done a few other ways but there really isn't wrong way to build it if you're hitting the number you want.

You can just throw on Foxes instead of 3pc of Breaking and that'll work.

[shy willow]

If you wanna one tap an elite just open with regulus

Should be enough damage

[subtle bluff]

This is also why ask if you know how HH works.

[tired garden]

does this trigger chainkiller?

[subtle bluff]

Yea that's the way I use to run it and it was great.

HS Kill proc HH.

Any WD HS kill procs HH

[shy willow]

^ then just swap to your rifle and keep chaining

[tired garden]

good thing I asked, cuase I didn''t know I can open with regulus, I thought I need to proc head hunter and determine together.

[tidal swan]

if you open with Regulus and get a headshot kill, you will get Headhunter proc but obviously not your rifle determined proc. If you then want to continue with the rifle you need to kill with headshot, otherwise you will drop HH and not get determined.

[subtle bluff]

Does someone have a quick clip of the Avg HHF Zoo run?

[shy willow]

Uhhh somewhere

[tidal swan]

I don't have it on standby, but I do have my 56s capitol entrance 😄 that's on HE regulus tho ://

[subtle bluff]

I found one... I'm soo just a decent player...

[subtle bluff]

Goooood old pummel.

I need to farm avg clips off of the avg players. 😤

[tired garden]

is this the HHF one shot shotgun?

[subtle bluff]

yup both clips are HHF.

HHF can almost anything. (mainly big one shot weapons)

You can see the it makes follows safer. At range it loses out to only have AoK but otherwise.

[tired garden]

alrighty! thank you all for all the tips

I going to try it now. have a good one

[onyx sage]

it's the ultimate daredevil build 😈

[wheat current]

what build do i need for the sheriff where i can solo the potomac on herioc and master! lol

[onyx sage]

soloing it isn't just about having a build tbh, much less a build using the sheriff. you can do it with good old elmo striker if you wanted to

[runic rapids]

@subtle bluff just the kneepads and the backpack and i have 6 chc cores on this gear set.

@subtle bluff or can i stop now? will more help?

[subtle bluff]

that maybe too much CHC

[runic rapids]

what other stats should i be aiming for? skill duration perhaps? or maybe skill damage

[subtle bluff]

CHC and CHD

[hazy steeple]

CHC hard caps out at 60%, so try taking one stat off and seeing how much you have.

[wheat current]

would the sheriff be good with heartbreaker?

[solar sable]

not really

[wheat current]

thank you

[burnt bone]

Which smgs do you like 👉👈🥺

[runic rapids]

i love emelines guard.

[burnt bone]

I think I got rid of all of mine 😔

[subtle bluff]

Tac Vector 9mm, SMG9 and weird stop for MP5 but dunno haven't done anything with it yet.

[burnt bone]

I see 🤔

[subtle bluff]

You want DTTooC on them.

[burnt bone]

Too late, smg damage was recalibrated 😔

[runic rapids]

all good i have a spare haha.

[fossil crag]

A heres my lvl 30 foam on 2 stats roll HHF

[burnt bone]

I’ll have to keep the next one I find 👀

[fossil crag]

vs the none 2 peace status ( this is my 3ed ove agent so no lvl 30 guns and gear)

[limber ice]

Hi guys,

I came back to The Division 2 about a week ago and I’m looking for a solid build recommendation. I want something I can use to clear Legendary content solo without dying every two minutes.

I’m looking for a build with good survivability — shield and armor regen would be ideal — but that can still deal strong damage. I don’t want a full tank that hits like a wet noodle, and I don’t want a glass cannon that gets deleted instantly either.

If you have a balanced solo Legendary build that actually works, I’m interested. Thanks.

[smoky latch]

Striker's with Memento and additional blue cores is often used for this

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1lwPe_8uKpHUSMJPYe4UXx4ED_ScYm3dw_81w7qCvH-o/edit
Basically this but with Memento instead of Overdogs and 1-2 blue cores

Elmo is a good weapon of choice

Could also add up to three PfE mods if you want

[subtle bluff]

A build won't sololy carry you thru solo legendary/master. 1/3 of it build, gameplay and knowledge. If the balance of these 3 aren't there you're gonna have a really hard time in general.

[limber ice]

Hm k i see wym, build there is no more build with regen and dps ? I used to go on thats kind of build bid

[subtle bluff]

The regen stats itself?

[fossil crag]

Call me crazy but…. Striker with edc and fire wall or Gunner is stupid fun. You can use what ever 6th peace you want

[subtle bluff]

Using an attribute slot for regen in a solo content isn't great. Due to how much bullets hard and how much they take to actually regen your armor would take a long time to be effective.

[fossil crag]

Armor regen is more of a pvp thing not pve you’ll be there all day trying to kill a red add

[subtle bluff]

and reasoning for that is the in PvP there only very few sources of incoming bullets where in PvE there A LOT of it.

[fossil crag]

Kinda true but yeah that’s what we gonna go with for this discussion

[copper yarrow]

so s the third roll, I have CHC on Bluescreen and Pesti because they do not have CHC mods. What should the 3rd roll on my Iron lung be?

[solar sable]

about the same

[subtle bluff]

DTTooC > CHC > RoF > DTH/DTA

[copper yarrow]

Since IL has inbuild CHC mod I thought 3rd roll could be something else

[copper yarrow]

I guess RoF it is then

[solar sable]

if your build requires it, feed it CHC

[copper yarrow]

Undesrtood! I use IL only on Strikers

[magic pilot]

Should go chc then

[subtle bluff]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WChAQCX06I4wgHd3iU0BuearJps2Lnr5wvLVehb8utY/edit?usp=sharing
Lookie I add a cool pic for the guide

[solar sable]

this looks like an official pic, is it?

[shy willow]

of pesti yeah it will be

[subtle bluff]

Don't think so a user made it and they endorse it

[shy willow]

older sets and stuff had similar promo artwork

[subtle bluff]

Yea I have the good ones

[solar sable]

oh it's ai

[subtle bluff]

no no. THis a long time ago

that's there twitter

[shy willow]

Stuff like this

[hazy steeple]

@solar sable Don't claim AI unless you can prove it. It's insulting to the artist at work.

[solar sable]

it looks sick tho

[solar sable]

I was actually just going for the Gemini logo which led me to think it was AI generated. I will never insult an artist or any person whose job is digital art.

[hazy steeple]

Next time, frame it as a question, not accusing them of something. Then no worries!

[subtle bluff]

Looks like in game pics

[solar sable]

photo mode does a great job ngl

[hazy steeple]

They're a capture artist who edits the work, it's all in their bluesky.

[subtle bluff]

Oh I use Gemini to change the text to CHC

[solar sable]

looks cool, makes it seem more alive

[subtle bluff]

Like this striker on is from in-game pic

[hazy steeple]

although a lot of their work is pretty NSFW.

creepily NSFW

[solar sable]

it's kinda off lol

[hazy steeple]

@subtle bluff Make sure you ask the artist if you are going to use their work for something that you put out for the public to use as a resource, especially if you're going to edit it with AI after the fact.

[subtle bluff]

I reached out. No response

I making I leave there tag there. I'm not editing there work just text.

[hazy steeple]

A lot of artists I know are very much against any AI editing whatsoever if their work is involved.
I would recommend you keep the art out of your guide until they respond to your message.
you'll have a quicker time getting them to respond back to you if you use bluesky, they've seemingly mostly left twitter, which is fair.

[rich lotus]

oh when everyone uses AI it becomes a bit difficult to know what is real or not, now I think artists are doing some AI infected ideas to, no need to be so cynical

[hazy steeple]

We have a rule of no AI art on this server, it's that simple.
This is not a discussion or debate, I'm being polite about it.

[rich lotus]

Tru

[still vessel]

I have a question on a potential tank build but am split one of four ways about it.

1. Foundary Bulwark focus
2. Aegis focus w/ IA emnity
3. Ninja Backpack with Gila/Belstone/IA
4. Improvised Gear w/ Provocator

All of them have potential and different play styles, just too much theory crafting xD

[subtle bluff]

Here's the main question. What are you trying to do with a "tank" build?

[still vessel]

I feel like survivability and aggro is what I'm aiming for. Difficult to knock down, but able to keep focus so dps can pick off adds ^^

[subtle bluff]

There no way to grab agro really in TD2. There a pistol so you can hold a single target of but it won't work on all targets.

We really not threat table that we know of, only thing we know is the the one the most dmg will have the highest threat.

[still vessel]

What about the IA set bonus for 100% Increased emnity? Would that factor in too? O.o

[subtle bluff]

Barely. You have some extra threat at the start but get over taken easily by a good DPS'er

There no traditional tanking in Div2

[still vessel]

Ahhhh, so IA is kinda a moot point then?

[subtle bluff]

Basically

It give the same thread has a Tier 0 Decoy

On that note that's only thing that close to pull threat off is a high Tier Decoy

[still vessel]

That's given me another idea for another day, but back to this... I'd then feel that Aegis may not be the way to go then. Good as the potential is, it may be a hit and miss ^^'

[subtle bluff]

Let me put it this way...

The blunt way I explain tanking in Div2, there are 2 types of tanks, a selfish tank that just stand upright the whole time and a support tank.

[still vessel]

I know I often utilise shields, and Pointman is a staple. Trying to reroll one with explosive/hazard to handle being on my feet longer ^^

Even just pulling the Shield out and giving a nice mill bonus armour to others helps a little yanno?

[subtle bluff]

sometime, sometimes it does nothing

I've had more issues with tanks getting my way or creating a situation that makes it harder sometimes.

[runic rapids]

so i got the perfect glass cannon gear. i love it so far. but what exotic should i pair it with?

[teal yoke]

What is the one you are wearing now?

[subtle bluff]

Memento is fine. You can try out Overdogs.

[runic rapids]

yeah i just took it off! i was def using it wrong!

[subtle bluff]

You'd be surprise the most support tank that did a bit of everything was this:
This is older of build the build I don't have the current version on on hand.
It tank, taking something off the field very 30s, heals the team, pulls some agro and can do global OC.

[subtle bluff]

I still think Memeto is better but Overdogs does give different playstyle.

[runic rapids]

yeah i agree completely!

[still vessel]

Now that's an interesting take on a build... but looking at it, it makes a lot of sense o.o

Actually... that's pretty genius!

[subtle bluff]

It take a lot of good gameplay and knowledge to make the build work very well.

[still vessel]

If I remember right, armor kit gives plus one skill... then 75% chance to not consume. Then hive for added healing support, then destroy for overcharge and invulnerable shield.

[subtle bluff]

this is a @peak meadow build special (his one trick). I know how the build works and how to play but it's harder for me to enjoy using it.

[subtle bluff]

No rez hive

Keep him from every from staying down.

[peak meadow]

What I do

[subtle bluff]

Then he can OC to keep from going down.

Your build. Uppies. I don't have the current version on hand.

The skills are normally Decoy and Rez hive

But they can be swapped out for w/e the situation calls for.

[peak meadow]

@still vessel https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwZgtAHGAMNgbHWymto6AuA7AVjAIwGEqIHwBMa1KymwAnJIcVWQfrTWpiPlETgZuXWr0QDi6ETKwVYFYM1GyeFeE1hF8BBuF1LdnGpnUoC0bAjAVw8WBHCjToQjuhQVziqdgg-4CBWzlaCFiJAA

[subtle bluff]

Iron Lung is a main now?

[peak meadow]

Here you go, this is the simplified version of the build, it is considerably more complex to play it how I usually play it

Weapons are Iron Lung/Lullaby/Ravenous

[subtle bluff]

OK thought so.

[peak meadow]

Stage Left/Lexington for secondary

[subtle bluff]

Yup yup

[peak meadow]

Quickstep/Kard Custom for tertiary

Swapped depending on the situation at hand

[still vessel]

I see the potential though, that is freaking genius! Kudos!

[peak meadow]

I will DM you how to play it and additional pieces of gear

But there is a reason I call this build APM Support, it hinges a lot on rapidly swapping skills and items but this build is very good with little to no adjustments.

Also in defense of not having a healer in high level content:

It is to the point where my decision-making process could be easily shown by flow charts

[still vessel]

There's so much going on that's synergizing and my brain is piecing it together, and I'm just in awe o.o

[peak meadow]

I will send some DMs

[subtle bluff]

TEH Support tank.

[runic rapids]

for whatever reason i can not send the link to the tool here. but this is how the build looks right this second. all my weapons are over max crit lol. one has nearly 90% crit chance.

rip discord murDered that

[subtle bluff]

Tooo much CHC

[runic rapids]

for sure. ill need to take some off. i need to replace knees. so ill have to craft some more refactor stuff later.

[subtle bluff]

Follow this rule but like I've before only as much as you want.

[patent fossil]

The link included an unfortunate string of random letters that triggered the automod

[runic rapids]

sorry! ❤️

[subtle bluff]

Skill dmg isn't bad to have.

[patent fossil]

Haha, we know it wasn't intentional, just unlucky!

[runic rapids]

that does sound like a good one to swap it out for!

[runic rapids]

in one of my other servers i got a 30 day mute for 3 pictures at once. and they didnt even unmute me. aparently it was my fault for not knowing 3 images is a no-no! im gald your a lot nicer about it ❤️

[subtle bluff]

Again you're just very over CHC change it out

[still vessel]

I remember hearing that 54% is a sweet spot and then focusing on Crit Damage to make the Crits pop a little harder, so you're still going above half the chance of a crit shot ^^

[peak meadow]

Honestly I would just leave at that point

[still vessel]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/EwRgtMYAwW4w6TEugLgKweXXIDMqikR6AHNpPrpCAOwCcOMIJzyaT1L7pfaoMN1x9ezAeGHwxohGgAs1cPOkh6cENjUA2XgIbZ5YbeDoQY+M43bAoaQmTyKwWx9up1+2tKxkdbfghAA

Mostly play solo but been tinkering with a build that pushes with good crit synergy, paired with ammo regen and 25% armor on kills. Change the exotic to what's good for you, I just really like Pestilence xD

[autumn totem]

So I've got momento, coyote and ninjabike st elmo stiker builds. Been trying for overdogs but haven't seemed to dropped yet. Should I keep going for them or just try and perfect my gear/mods?

[peak meadow]

Coyote is aight, it's OG; Memento is good for solo

[runic rapids]

@hexed steppe will be around momentarily to recycle your messenger bag for you 😆

[peak meadow]

You will likely get a more consistent increase optimizing your current gear than farming for Overdogs but couldn't you just do retaliations

[still vessel]

Oh geez, should I be worried? 🤣

[runic rapids]

i ended up doing over 425 control points/retails and getting overdogs blueprints. then making them. then finding out i hate them! and going back to the memento! i like it a lot!

[runic rapids]

#ask-td2-community message you get a free exotic part! 😆

[still vessel]

Ahhhhh, I see now! 🤣

[peak meadow]

I usually stay out of DPS topics because I only know what my friends tell me, though they are wildly competent

But I think Coyote's Mask was good enough for my speedrunner friend before Overdogs/Exodus so I am going to say it is at least viable

[autumn totem]

My ninja bike build is paired with equalizer maxed out and fenris gloves, its been ripping thru stuff. Only at 161shd so it's not like I do super hard missions, but I get by on heroic. Probably will try and perfect my gear. I need max mods

[runic rapids]

i got my first perfect one after ~300h

[subtle bluff]

Back to your OP. Both NBB and Provocator are traps

[subtle bluff]

Don’t use on your build it’s not a high value for Turret/Drones

[subtle bluff]

To note NBB will always nerf any builds max potential.

[autumn totem]

Oof W. The CHC/D is edging me so bad bruh literally like a few points from being a maxed out mod 😑😒

[subtle bluff]

Use Ceska instead of Fenis

[runic rapids]

i know what you mean. ive got 4 5.9 chc. and 3 11.8/11.9 chd now.

[autumn totem]

Let's see if I can craft some ceska gloves rq

[runic rapids]

its decent at least.

[autumn totem]

Yeah shit pisses me off 😅

[subtle bluff]

Also Emily give buildstation.app a try that’s what I use to share builds

[still vessel]

Is NBB really that bad? O.o

[autumn totem]

My equalizer

[subtle bluff]

Yes it’s a noob trap

[still vessel]

Well, damn. Fair enough, it means I'll have to rework some of my builds then

[subtle bluff]

Busting NBB, it nerfs a build even when it gives more stats

Sorry it’s late Englishing and typing isn’t mixing well.

[still vessel]

You're fine!

[autumn totem]

@subtle bluff suggestions on what to use instead? Aside from the overdogs i don't have yet. I've got momento and coyote thats nearly perfect. Also I feel that

[subtle bluff]

Also for some reason my Desktop discord isn’t working so on a tablet.

4x Striker + BP, Equal and Cessna

[peak meadow]

Being real here, all advice is kinda contextual based on the content you want to do, right

[autumn totem]

Nvm the coyote is perfect aside from the not max mod

[peak meadow]

If you want to play Heroic and you can do Heroic, there's not a whole lot of pressure to change.

[subtle bluff]

Then weapon it’s anything that’s +790 RPM with Killer (for solo) anything else Measured.

[subtle bluff]

Coyote will work fine too

[peak meadow]

If you want to do Legendary then that's different but like on its face, Coyote's Striker is still viable and pass/fail is based on your team's collective competence and not really on what you brought

[autumn totem]

If I can survive solo great, and if I can help benefit the team also great

[stuck grotto]

You'll be doing both at the same time. Coyote works better in group play anyways. Memento is best for solo usage

[subtle bluff]

Best for sustainability

[peak meadow]

Assuming nobody catastrophically messes up, you should pass

[stuck grotto]

They're on Xbox so expect some rough patches

[autumn totem]

Fair enough, honestly if I'm not grinding countdown I'm in the summit running solo. Or just running thru the city doing random stuff

[peak meadow]

You could run Beacon as a joke if you wanted to be a support DPS player, it's good until someone dies. It's even good when YOU die.

If you're just solo then Memento is just the easy recommendation

[stuck grotto]

Beacon isn't that bad but it all depends on who is using it and how skilled the player is. Still better off taking a DPS chest

[autumn totem]

Ole reliable lol

[autumn totem]

Quite literally a laser beam

[peak meadow]

It's bugged to give allies 15ish% armor so arguably it is going to be good if healing matters but I am of the opinion that healing is bad on Legendary/Master anyways

Like this amount of heal is very obviously not 2% regen and my contribution to his survival was standing like 2 Faraday Fields away from him.

[stuck grotto]

Yeah on legendary and master it's pointless

[peak meadow]

It is kinda bonkers that an exotic can heal for 800% of the written value and it's still worse than Birdie's

[stuck grotto]

With my testing I noticed it gave the 2%. Going to assume triggering the bug is random? Or specific?

[peak meadow]

It's 2% for you, it's 15ish% for everyone else

[stuck grotto]

Wow 💀

Okay yeah that's a bit broken

[peak meadow]

Like go into a lobby right now and stand next to someone, it will either not heal them and needs to be taken off and back on, or gigaheal

And I know I used it in that video bur 1. I was just trying stuff out and 2. I didn't know healing was that much worse than just reviving people yet

That said, I had it tested by three separate people on Discord and they all confirmed that if the Beacon wasn't bugging out to give no heal, it was full healing people in six seconds

[stuck grotto]

Controversial opinion but make it 3% Regen per second and make it 1.5% Regen in pvp. I think it would be a good buff to it. Obviously fix the talent to work properly

[peak meadow]

My opinion is that 15% is still not high enough to make it good enough for a support player to heal DPS players with

[stuck grotto]

Maybe have it give 45% crit damage? Then pvp it can be 25%. Trying to take into account both modes

[autumn totem]

Good for now? Needs work tho, gotta grind the mats to keep upgrading the other stats

[peak meadow]

Like even in its VERY obviously broken state, it's still somehow worse than Birdie's

[stuck grotto]

Yeah anybody with refactor or simple future healer will still do more for the group

[peak meadow]

Yeah but that's also part of it, Refractor and FI cost four item slots

[stuck grotto]

Meanwhile beacon only costs 1

[peak meadow]

Beacon costs 1 and it gives damage stats, and it's still somehow worse than Birdie's

[stuck grotto]

Birdies has been bugged for a while. Sometimes birdies talent will stick and you'll get 50% damage reduction

[peak meadow]

I actually do not know how you release Birdie's one patch and Blacklisters later, like they're very obviously on completely different levels of power

[stuck grotto]

Reducing damage by 50 percent is significantly better than any sort of healing. Even more broken when you do have healing

[runic rapids]

does CHC/CHD apply to skills?

[stuck grotto]

Uh.... Not sure

[peak meadow]

Also not stated but Birdie's manual revive (not sure if all manual revives do this) resets one shot protection

So it's like however much health you have x 1.5 and then like an extra health gate

[stuck grotto]

Yeah I noticed that too. I don't see the "weakened" debuff icon

Pretty sure that's what removes health gate

[peak meadow]

On a zero second cooldown and it gives me skill tier, and it makes my hive lower CD, and it can overcharge me, and there's a self 50% weaken debuff stat and 10 second damage reduction buff for me and the dude

And that's just me ignoring that it's a mega revive speed increase like how did this make it past testing

[stuck grotto]

They test stuff?

[peak meadow]

Did they playtest this because if so they could have fooled me, I am going to abuse it every chance I get

[stuck grotto]

At this rate division is a game with a long list of abused mechanics but that's every video game. Division is just meme at this rate

They still haven't fixed smart cover

[peak meadow]

Yeah but like then they release Blacklisters

Exodus Gloves are neat, Nimble Holster doesn't get enough love

But Birdie's is like three different exotics in a single piece

I am gonna exalt this pack until this game dies off

[stuck grotto]

Exodus and Nimble are my personal favorites for utility exotics. Majority don't use cover to cover system which nimble rewards greatly. People sleep on those exotics hard

Besides, majority if not all enemies can't shoot you when doing cover to cover. They almost always miss

[peak meadow]

My DPS friend had to stop using Exodus because it seems like the aggro transfer sends your aggro to whoever is closest to you

Which tends to be your boy Frank Hassle despite him not firing a single shot

[stuck grotto]

It does. Had a friend get targeted immediately by all 3 chungas in legendary DUA

Gloves popped, they turned head, he was evaporated within milliseconds

[peak meadow]

I think it would be really funny to grief a dude like that

[stuck grotto]

If you truly want to grief, run Cloak kneepads and those gloves

[peak meadow]

It's also incredibly funny doing it to the dude whose job is to pick people up

[stuck grotto]

That's a double whammy

[subtle bluff]

Doesn't work that way

[stuck grotto]

Damn

[peak meadow]

I run several grief builds but like I am also at least competent enough that people don't even notice

But I have had about three people ask me why I am sledging myself

[stuck grotto]

Because yes

[mint axle]

That's why I always say, the exodus gloves is a selfish exotic

[smoky sigil]

Does striker gear set apply to tick damage with pestilence?

[strong cave]

No

[strong cave]

You'll want to invest in weapon damage stats that pertain to either Weapon Damage, Total Weapon Damage, or weapon specific damage (in this case, LMG damage)

Concentrated Company gearset, also known as CoCo, will boost Pestilence ticks. Lengmo Brandset is also known to boost the ticks (3 piece bonus for the LMG damage)

[subtle bluff]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WChAQCX06I4wgHd3iU0BuearJps2Lnr5wvLVehb8utY/edit?usp=sharing

Pesti Guide

[mint axle]

Btw, don't use the smoke gloves, the game removes pesti stack if out of combat.

[strong cave]

Chow will take the wheel on this one

[smoky sigil]

Thank yall

[strong cave]

^ this. I recommend overdogs instead. That WILL boost Pesti ticks

[smoky sigil]

For overdogs, with “enemies in combat” if there is a lower tier in a different room (not visible) that is aggro do I still get the buff for a higher tier that is right in front of me?

[strong cave]

I recommend opening the pinned messages in this channel and looking for Agent Taro's ODogs guide. Memorize each icon and what they are, starting from lowest tier enemies (the image tells you where to start). Prioritize those lowest tier enemies and you'll have boosted damage all the time

When those lowest tier enemies are all dead, the list changes. So if say tier 3 enemies are dead and there's tier 2 enemies left, the damage still applies. So on and so on

[smoky sigil]

Roger that, thank ya

[misty walrus]

Is this build for shroud decent?

[digital orchid]

Legendary content like Tidal Basin where the person running tank is essential to mission success.

[strong cave]

Get rid of hotshot bag. It does nothing for you

[patent fossil]

Ooh, truck came back.
Hotshot 4pc is a nice qol for infinite ammo, no reload and aok, if you're hitting the damage you need to one shot things then might as well take it

[copper yarrow]

A tank is not essential for mission success

[buoyant perch]

losing 25% TWD from the bag is rough

[hexed steppe]

swap hotshot bog for airaldi or providence(gift) with vigilance(p.vigilance). as suggested above

you could go as far as adding foxs and just 2pc the hotshot, but i think thats better when using rifle as well. ymmv. vigilance is the missing piece

[misty walrus]

Thanks, i completely forgot abt the vigilance. Tbh, i dont rlly like it, but this loadout is only for summit hunters, wouldnt mind losing 25% damage for 4sec 😁

[hexed steppe]

It'll definitely help first shot 💯

[burnt bone]

Yeah idk what I’m doing wrong on hunters fury, anything I can’t kill with a single smg mag just sends me to the respawn screen instantly

[shy willow]

Can always post your setup and we can take a look

[burnt bone]

It’s 4pc HF with memento and equalizer, I think that’s pretty standard right

I think I figured part of the issue out

[patent fossil]

Backfire?

[burnt bone]

I need to remember if they can see me, they can 2 shot me

So I have to try my best to permanently keep solid cover between me and the enemies while im approaching HF range

[burnt bone]

No idk it felt weak to me

I think I was using it wrong

[patent fossil]

My mistake. Often when someone reports dying and not understanding why, it turns out to be backfire...

[burnt bone]

I keep hearing backfire is goated so I’ll try again ;-;

But it def feels very punishing for someone who only recently set their world to heroic

[patent fossil]

If you can build and maintain stacks it is, so context dependent like striker chest

[burnt bone]

Will momento completely negate the bleed? (With enough stacks)

[patent fossil]

Potentially yeah the bonus armour should soak it up

[burnt bone]

I mean isn’t the passive regen greater than 1.5% from backfire bleed

[smoky latch]

Or the companions this season 🥲

[patent fossil]

No, iirc (I'm not actually a backfire user myself) it dumps a whole armour bar of bleed on you in like 10s, so definitely more than the 3% from memento

But it did get toned down a bit a few seasons ago so my memory might be outdated

[buoyant perch]

Only good for long long fight with a lot of enemies

[burnt bone]

Oh wait @patent fossil I misread, I thought it was 1.5% per second but it’s actually a 0.5% bleed per stack for 10 seconds

[buoyant perch]

The key to negate bleed to fire a few rounds, get very short bleed. Do it three times and you are immune

[burnt bone]

So it’ll def outdamage momento

[burnt bone]

Interesting… which non backfire smgs are good

[buoyant perch]

SMG-9 killer

[shy willow]

Smg-9, ouro, chatter, most vector variants

[burnt bone]

Are there any particularly strong shotguns I should look out for 👀

Oh true I’ve been meaning to try chatterbox

And how is dark winter? I’ve heard good things about it it

[shy willow]

M870 and KSG are good

[shy willow]

Don't know about now but at one point it was a great option

[buoyant perch]

Fall behind smg-9 killer

[burnt bone]

I see

Can I use custom m870 👉👈🥺

[buoyant perch]

Eh, IMO only good for one shot HF. Reload is too long.

[burnt bone]

Military m870 has faster reload? Or do you just mean the m870 in general

Oh mine is pummel tho

[burnt bone]

Rq can someone explain when I’m supposed to do 3 reloads on the backfire

Is that just to end a strong bleed early

Until you get to 100 stacks

[buoyant perch]

If you get exposed to a status effect, you build up immunity overtime

So 3 short bleed is relatively harmless

[burnt bone]

The immunity disappears after a few seconds tho

[buoyant perch]

Well yeah you only need two mag max stack anyway, at max stack you no longer receive bleed

[burnt bone]

Fair

[buoyant perch]

Again

[burnt bone]

But I wanna use the funny pain gunnnn ;-;

Do heroic missions have long enough fights

[buoyant perch]

Hey no kink shaming here

[buoyant perch]

Not really

[burnt bone]

Aw ok

Back to figuring out smg9 killer

[onyx sage]

backfire is only used in a few places currently

[buoyant kraken]

Is this the correct setup for Future Initiative? and is this the best healing setup? cause I have refactor aswell for armor

[onyx sage]

those places start with i and end with ncursion

[burnt bone]

Ohh for some reason I was under the impression that it was the BiS for hunters fury/cqb but was just hard to use

[onyx sage]

backpack is ideally the setup (perfect opportunistic)

[buoyant kraken]

I got one but couldn't reroll it due to me having to reroll 2 stats which I can't. Which Target loot is that?

[onyx sage]

no, it requires too much ramp up and have unnecessary initial damage taken for short fights

[onyx sage]

Uzina Guard, but you're fine with just rerolling the core, you don't need the 2 attributes to be correct

[burnt bone]

Gotcha gotcha, do you have any preferred smgs I should try besides converted smg9 + killer 👉👈🥺

[onyx sage]

yeah, smg9 measured xD

[burnt bone]

Haha alright

[buoyant kraken]

Alright, and any other weapons I may run with this except scorpion/lefty? and which is the better heal. this or refactor?

[onyx sage]

FI isn't a healing set, it's actually a buffer set with healing as a way to maintain the buff

[buoyant kraken]

ah. Just build this so trying to get a build of everything and this was one a lot of people talked about

[onyx sage]

with that said, the 4p FI when used correctly will heal more than refactor.

disclaimer with healing in this game: there is such a thing as "too much healing". some enemies deal lethal damage within a single hit. infinite healing wouldn't save them here

[burnt bone]

Hmmm ksg looks fun 🤔

[onyx sage]

4p FI already heals enough. the rest of your budget should be towards buffing/debuffing, that's why scorpio is de facto weapon, with opportunistic backpack

[buoyant kraken]

Also the gloves. I get overcharge and my skill cooldowns are refreshed when detonating a hive. Does this mean I manually just destroy it to go into overcharge and I can insta pop it again? Or does it gotta destroy itself?

[onyx sage]

the first time you pop it gives overcharge, you don't have to pop it again

popping it is destroying it

[river shell]

im trying to build something that works in all content around st elmos that isnt striker

[burnt bone]

Negotiators?

[uncut elbow]

Hunter fury with equalizer chest an moment backpack/overdog gloves

[gentle lichen]

Me when i don't have the moment bag: please give me a moment

[subtle bluff]

The issue with that is that strikers are the only build that can clear all content.

Next closest is TS then HHF and Nego.

Elmo isn't meta.

[subtle bluff]

Here's this.

[timid token]

Hi

Any build advice for damage and health and weapon

That my build

[hexed steppe]

are you focusing on the skills or weapon for damage

[timid token]

Both I’m trying get crit damage and weapon damage

But I got dominated cause of my health

[hexed steppe]

also no damage. its kindof all over the place if im being honest. its somewhat expected being a new agent tho so dont take it to heart

we all been here at one point

[timid token]

NO DAMAGE WHAT THE

[burnt bone]

Oh tipping scales is really that good?

[visual python]

For any build where you want high dps, focus on having at least 50% CHC and around 120-130% CHD

[timid token]

What chc and Chd

[subtle bluff]

Eh

[visual python]

Crit hit chance and crit hit damage

[timid token]

Ah

[timid token]

What about health

Or is health crit chance

[hexed steppe]

start with this build and youll understand when i say no damage. right now the build just wont do content past hard most likely
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0

[subtle bluff]

Can someone point him to the starter guide

[visual python]

Not sure about health builds, but the central theme around Division 2 is to output more damage so that you dont have to worry about death.

That's why prioritizing red cores, crit chance and crit damage increases your overall dps

[subtle bluff]

In the Pinned Messages > Sheet 2 > Build Hub > Starter Guide
That get you started

[hexed steppe]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0

[timid token]

I don’t got Lexington sadly as weapon

[subtle bluff]

Yeee that

[timid token]

Cause it said Lexington in there

[hexed steppe]

police m4, carbine 7 fine

[timid token]

K

[visual python]

St elmos exotic is a good placeholder

[hexed steppe]

st elmo fine also

[visual python]

But police m4 and carbine 7 work fine as well

[burnt bone]

Oh I just realized I can prob replace my coyote mask my nego build now that I have tinkerers

[hexed steppe]

elmo probably the best for new agents since it has a lot of crit in its mods

[visual python]

Lexington is basically a higher damage police m4

[visual python]

👍👍

[subtle bluff]

Slighty

[visual python]

St elmos is friendly for newer agents

[timid token]

Ima search it up on YouTube

[subtle bluff]

To a degree

We gave you the guide.

[visual python]

Once you start really target farming AR's and smg's you find higher numbers compared to the exotics

[subtle bluff]

Follow the starter guide

That’s all you need for now.

YouTube will confuse and lead you else where.

[burnt bone]

Probably not a good idea

[smoky latch]

YT builds suck pretty hard on average. You get some of the best guidance here

[river shell]

whats hhf

[visual python]

Hunters fury?

[subtle bluff]

Headhunter Hunter Fury

[visual python]

Oh Hunters fury with headhunter talent

[river shell]

then ts is tipping scale right

[visual python]

Yes

[burnt bone]

@timid token can you post a pic of your build here 👉👈🥺

[visual python]

Aka the best lmg build

[timid token]

I did

[burnt bone]

Oh uhhhh I see it now

[subtle bluff]

Use the starter guide

[visual python]

I have a build that I will post later today that I use for retaliation. Any feedback will be great.

[timid token]

Ik

[timid token]

Ok

[buoyant kraken]

Alps backpack is fine right?

[burnt bone]

Btw crit damage doesn’t really matter if your crit chance is booty cheeks

[subtle bluff]

Guide explains it in the BP section

[timid token]

Ye my crit chance is kinda terrible

[burnt bone]

Yaaa that’ll be helped with mods on your gun and attributes/mods on armor

[subtle bluff]

Tbh you dont have a build atm

[burnt bone]

+shd watch bonuses eventually, i think the goal on most weapons is around 50% chc

[subtle bluff]

Random stuff put together.

[timid token]

O

[timid token]

Well no shi I just did to boost my crit dmg 😂

[burnt bone]

Wait then what do you normally use, that’s what I was asking about

[timid token]

I don’t use anything I’m new

[subtle bluff]

He fresh. He needs to go farm a build.

[burnt bone]

I see I see

[timid token]

I just hit lvl 40 that why I’m here

[burnt bone]

Then yeah read the starter guide o7

[timid token]

Am going to

[hexed steppe]

came to the right spot 🍻

[uncut elbow]

Can turmoil be used in combination of negotiator or is there a better fitting build to incorporate turmoil into?

[burnt bone]

think turmoil is generally used with snipers

[onyx sage]

turmoil really only has value on headhunter builds and even then it's not recommended. it has niche use for some one-shot builds.

[burnt bone]

mainly just HE stuff right

[uncut elbow]

Hmm I see

[onyx sage]

it depends, you can do striker dch headshot with it too

watch this for example https://youtu.be/B2cOldjXm6U

or this https://youtu.be/28vB5dXdvRc

it's really only used because it bypasses immune gate

[burnt bone]

Lul

Can I still effectively use HHF in heroic without the regulus? Or is missing the aoe damage too big of a downside

Like 4pc hf with chainkiller + (idk the gift/memento?) + m870 pummel + white death (idk perk)

[solar sable]

I mean... yeah

[burnt bone]

Is it just… sadder…

[buoyant perch]

Even in 4-man lego, yeah

[burnt bone]

Btw what is lego I keep seeing it but can’t find it online ;-;

[solar sable]

you can, Regulus is mainly used to clear spawns so

[buoyant perch]

Legendary

[solar sable]

Legendary = Leg = Leggo = 🦵

[burnt bone]

Curious…

Ah well I’ll try it out

Do I want determined on white death or is that just a skill issue

[buoyant perch]

M870 would be the main weapon to clear spawn instead of Regulus in your case

[solar sable]

We use Streamline w/White Death on HHF to stack HH

[burnt bone]

Gotcha gotcha

[smoky latch]

Solo farming with Determined is perfectly fine tho. Saves you a bunch of time

[burnt bone]

How do you keep vigilance consistent?

[smoky latch]

Don't get shot 😂

[solar sable]

don't get hit lol

[burnt bone]

I’ll just keep one of both 🤷🏻‍♂️

[smoky latch]

Farm for one where you can change the talent

[burnt bone]

I already have both haha

A white death with dttooc and one with streamline

[smoky latch]

That's good, if you had a god rolled one it'll save you one inventory slot

[burnt bone]

And yeah but that’s harder because I’m new and I have to get closer than I’m used to for HF ;-;

[buoyant perch]

Btw HHF has a learning curve. Personally I die a lot at first. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[burnt bone]

Might just rock memento until I’m better at the game then

[buoyant perch]

Now I still die but less

[subtle bluff]

What a better than avg player you are now.

[burnt bone]

lol actually I just remembered I scrapped my streamline one

So I’ll just have to remember to swap the talent eventually

Unrelated question

Is Busy Little Bee attribute BiS swap speed

[hazy steeple]

As a general rule, swap-speed is never a bad choice if the main goal of the weapon is to use something else to deal damage.

e.g. Quickstep.

[burnt bone]

Tnx Ms/Mrs Lesbian 🙏🙏

[hazy steeple]

Not married yet, but dating, thanks for checking!

[burnt bone]

Glhf 🫡

So would Scorpio be included in the swap speed gang? Or does it do enough to justify a damage attribute

[smoky latch]

DTOC

In most cases I might say

[burnt bone]

So even fire rate to stack shots faster isn’t worth 🤔

[smoky latch]

Use Salvo is you want ROF increase

But - rather not in a status build

[burnt bone]

I’m talking specifically about Scorpio to reach its 9th shot damage boost faster

On like FI

[smoky latch]

It's not a bad choice as support

Should be OK in group play

[burnt bone]

Determine harvest is still dttooc right

[hazy steeple]

Just think of it like this "just always go dtooc and you're basically never wrong".

[burnt bone]

Fair

[urban pewter]

@onyx sage "yes" i like pain (perfect glass canon on chestpiece)

[onyx sage]

i don't mind pgc, i play it myself

but the easiest increase you can find is using a different backpack

i forgot the optimal 3 UA setup but in any case, something like vigilance or unstoppable force for backpack talent will beat ninjabike

@subtle bluff might have that build

[subtle bluff]

I've been summoning my cooking?

[onyx sage]

post the 3 UA build sir

[urban pewter]

i use the ninja bike cuz as bonuses i get +50%mag size/ +8% CHC + 13%CHD

[subtle bluff]

Brb

[onyx sage]

yes but those will lose to something like 25% TWD from vigilance for example

twd is a different multiplier, with no other twd source it's basically a 1.25×

[urban pewter]

[onyx sage]

you can still get the 50% mag size

[solar sable]

ninjabike is basically nerfing you

[urban pewter]

huh

[onyx sage]

never said you have to lose that mag size, but the other stats you gain is just worse than a good backpack talent

that's how bad brand bonuses are

[onyx sage]

they're good but they can't beat a strong backpack talent like vigilance

yeah above is pretty much close to optimal 3p UA setup

[subtle bluff]

It doesn't make up for the lost talent.

[hazy steeple]

I can attest that the equaliser replacing sacrifice +grupo for the mask" option works very well too, if you don't like the Glass Cannon playstyle.

[burnt bone]

Well what’s the optimal 👀

[burnt bone]

Equalizer my beloved

[urban pewter]

gonna have to fram for that cuz i never knew about the Overdogs gloves ...

[onyx sage]

i mean the above is optimal but i don't like overdogs personally :p

[hazy steeple]

Dien is just over dogs.

[urban pewter]

never had one

[onyx sage]

it is optimal assuming high overdogs uptime

[burnt bone]

Oh lol, I don’t have them so what would you use instead

[onyx sage]

i'd run ceska instead but it's preference in the end if you prefer utility

[solar sable]

sir is so pro that overdogs are already part of him

[hazy steeple]

Tink+that combo of stuff is quite nice too.

[onyx sage]

i only use overdogs on sniper builds which is quite ironic but it's the kind of build where i can pick and choose which target i like shooting more

[urban pewter]

btw what does Overdog give ?

[onyx sage]

30% amp to the "correct enemy tier"

[burnt bone]

I’m lame so I guess I’ll drop the backpack for memento, use equalizer, and figure out the rest

[onyx sage]

#td2-build-advice message refer to this picture, basically it applies to the enemies on the lowest tier in combat, moving up a tier if the lower tier is empty

in most content, it will apply most of the time

[urban pewter]

tbh yeah if i can swap my kneepads for something else i might switch back to the Mememto

[strong cave]

Perfect for crithorn

[burnt bone]

Ok my initial thoughts are trading foxes for a grupo

[timid token]

Is that your pve build or nah

I wanna snatch that build

[burnt bone]

Uhhh it’s the very beginning of an assault rifle based HE build

[timid token]

Ah

[burnt bone]

Which will be pve

[timid token]

Nice

It kinda hard to grind striker gear not gonna lie

Am having hard time

[burnt bone]

Really? Which parts are you struggling with

[timid token]

Well I got two striker gear one is chest and gloves I think

[timid token]

And the other I don’t have

[burnt bone]

You should be able to get the whole set in around 15 minutes

[timid token]

Dam I’m not lol

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?usp=drivesdk have you read this

[uncut elbow]

Summit/Countdown TL > mission with striker gear

[timid token]

Oh

[timid token]

Yes but it doesn’t show me location

[burnt bone]

I don’t think you read it

[uncut elbow]

Matchmake for countdown and set your target loot to Striker

[timid token]

When I do match make I can’t set my target loot

[solar sable]

no way

[timid token]

But the summit I can

[solar sable]

yes you can

[timid token]

Ah ok

[uncut elbow]

Should work exactly the same as summit

[solar sable]

Summit, Countdown and Retaliations share the same TL

[strong cave]

Your eyes aren't deceiving you, I'm truly back

[subtle bluff]

Do we need to do in steps?
Set TL then go into CD..

[smoky latch]

Welcome back

[uncut elbow]

I have a feeling they may have selected the manhunt in the area and not the countdown itself.

[subtle bluff]

I mean the picture of where to go shows different icons.. =/

[burnt bone]

I’ve just done heroic activities so far but this feels pretty good with memento stacks

[honest flare]

Best way to go for Refactor builds, mainly stack skill damage, any skill haste?

[solar sable]

#td2-build-advice message

[maiden sluice]

Does anyone have a good build for the new climax mission on master. I’m trying to get the ruin mask. Thanks

[buoyant perch]

Unless you are really good with tac-50 turmoil oneshot, it's impossible to get the mask without reanimated

[maiden sluice]

I guess im too late

[buoyant perch]

Yeah have to wait for a patch to make it possible again with another way

[maiden sluice]

If so imma keep grinding to get all the hunters masks

[subtle bluff]

I did it with a 1886 solo

I didn’t keep track but he just died with me just turmoil in the the corner

[buoyant perch]

Without reanimated?

[subtle bluff]

Haven't tried.

I'll give it a shot tonight. Maybe have to do in on hotshot.

[buoyant perch]

That's my point. Glorious did 72 mil and he didn't die so it probably requires 2 full stack tac-50 without reanimated.

[subtle bluff]

I didn't track when he died I just wanted to try to see if I could passively do it in the corner solo.

[buoyant perch]

I did it with 1886 too but I was doing 100mil+ with reanimated

[wispy hollow]

Who is the author of this document ?

[onyx sage]

@subtle bluff

[subtle bluff]

🥷

[burnt bone]

@subtle bluff @solar sable

[solar sable]

why me bro

[burnt bone]

You’re in the files…

[solar sable]

that's my doppelganger

it has to be, it can't be me

[burnt bone]

And why can’t it 🙃

[solar sable]

because... I'm too lazy

[subtle bluff]

Hi too lazy, I'm ADHD...

[burnt bone]

No ur doomz! :]

[buoyant perch]

You sure he wasn't just redacting names from the files 🤔

[burnt bone]

😦😦my goat would never…

[buoyant perch]

he's been awfully quiet....

[onyx sage]

i'm in none of the files.

[burnt bone]

Now isn’t that a familiar face…

[burnt bone]

Never meet your heroes…

[onyx sage]

who's that??

[burnt bone]

I’m looking into it.

[gloomy star]

anyone have a DPS/armor eagle bearer build ? about time i get the gun 😭

[subtle bluff]

Striker

[solar sable]

pvp or pve?

because in pve it sucks and in pvp it's kinda eh

[subtle bluff]

@burnt dock ask your build questiong here

[burnt dock]

Hey bro I’m looking for a few build options

Armour on kill with oroborus as main weapon

Bear healer build

Razerback build that keeps bleed down

[solar sable]

bear healer? wut?

[buoyant perch]

What bleed with razorback?

[burnt dock]

Healer build*

And backfire mb

[solar sable]

Hunter's Fury w/Memento for both Backfire and Ouro
FI Healer

You don't need any hazpro or bleed mods to "counter the bleed", you won't die nor will you bleed all the time.

[burnt dock]

Thank you very much I’ll give them all a try 😀

[serene flare]

I'm thinking of switching my sniper build from Hotshot over to Tip of the Spear so I can use the .50 cal more
would this be a good setup for it?

[visual python]

So currently this is my loadout for heroic retaliations.

In general i am a striker main, and have almost all loadouts for and only striker since I like to experiment with things. Been playing division since early 2025 ( end of shades of red to end of crossroads) then shifted to forza, BL4, etc...

[burnt bone]

Where’s the loadout 🥺

[burnt bone]

Yeah I saw that but that’s just your weapon stats

[visual python]

Oh sorry my bad

[burnt bone]

I was asking more about the gear pieces haha

[visual python]

Got you give me a sec

Here is the loadout

The only downside i find with memento is that you lose out on some extra crit damage since you can only apply one offensive gear mod, but any AR with killer can make up for it.

[burnt bone]

So what were you wondering about :3

[hexed steppe]

honestly, i dont see it. you would want headhunter if focusing on the sniper. go ahead and run it side by side and see your clear times. im sure youll reverse course

[burnt bone]

(I’m also a memento fan)

[visual python]

I was wondering how I could get extra crit damage out if this loadout but I kind of answered that myself in my head.

[subtle bluff]

You can use Tac 50 on hotshot... but also..... what were you using Crit hotshot?

[visual python]

Additionally I see people with 4 pc striker with coyotes and are consistently hitting 52% crit chance and 170% crit damage. My numbers aren't too far off. I can hit around 50-51% crit chance and around 145-150% crit damage.

[smoky latch]

Optimize your CHD stats. Otherwise solid build. If you wanna do more damage roll a blue core back to WD

[subtle bluff]

I mean... He went for Ceska when the guide calls for equal...

[smoky latch]

You could also use the Equalizer chest

[hexed steppe]

memento is always a trade off. it buffs your shield 3 ways while also giving some weapon damage and regen.. worth 🍻

[serene flare]

I was using weapon handling for Nemesis
the more I'm playing around with it, the less fun I'm having

[subtle bluff]

It's suppose to be he skimmed over the text and just looked and old picture..

[subtle bluff]

Why?

[burnt bone]

Eh, it says both

[hexed steppe]

doesnt the guide also call for coyote

[serene flare]

because the scope sway on Nemesis was really messing with me

[subtle bluff]

That's the striker guide... The starter guide

[subtle bluff]

You should be only use Nemisis once then switching to another MMR'.

[serene flare]

I really hate using two of the same weapon type

[burnt bone]

Yeah the pics are pre-equalizer

[subtle bluff]

Hotshot is all about MMR's

[burnt bone]

And overdogs

[subtle bluff]

This is how hotshot is played and used.

@serene flare

[hexed steppe]

could always build headhunter like i do and benefit mmr and rifle. shroud fits instead of mantis if you want bigger damage

[burnt bone]

Does the gearset buff not show up on screen?

[serene flare]

I tried that out, but Determined really felt cheap and cheaty to me
I wanted more of a challenge

[hexed steppe]

there is no determined there

[burnt bone]

He means the vid

[serene flare]

in the video

[hexed steppe]

oic, yeah determined cheap af

[serene flare]

I tried out the Turmoil build for the event last week and I had to put it down
it felt like I was literally just cheating

[burnt bone]

Then just take off determined :)

[visual python]

I try to. Dont really have a lot of optimization materials so I try to farm as much strikers gear, ceska gear, and grupo gear to get my stats up higher.

[smoky latch]

Farm CPs instead, do some bounties. Also less monotonous

[serene flare]

I also mostly used Nemesis as my primary weapon
I just love how it plays. I only used the weapon handling to make Nemesis easier to use

[subtle bluff]

Hotshot with Mantis or Shroud then

[burnt bone]

Oh that reminds me I have to do hyena retaliations

[subtle bluff]

I'm just so confused with this thought with this.

[hexed steppe]

shroud will give a lot of knockdown power, mantis will have solid knockdown and great qol

[serene flare]

I just have a weird thing about using two of the same weapon type/class
and having a tac 50 and Nemesis was just pushing my buttons

[burnt bone]

They want to use the tac 50

[subtle bluff]

You can use it without Tips too. I use it.

[livid sorrel]

you lose so much from tip of the spear

[burnt bone]

Well won’t tipping scales nerf your nemesis damage

[subtle bluff]

Yup

[burnt bone]

*tip of the spear

[hexed steppe]

tips used to be a good sniper set, but those days are long gone

[subtle bluff]

They nerfed it and it wasn't amazing before anyways.

[burnt bone]

It feels like there’s quite a few dedge armor sets 😞 do they ever fully rework bad stuff

[subtle bluff]

we're hoping on that.

[serene flare]

I think maybe I should find something different to play other than a main focused sniper

[hexed steppe]

-# Mortar life calls to you

[serene flare]

I tried a bit of Eclipse Protocol, and it feels fun, I just need to mold it into the niche I enjoy

[hexed steppe]

yeah ep is a great set. damage or crowd control versions both satisfying to use

[serene flare]

but for solo play I hear it's pretty difficult

I want to make it work, but I gotta figure out the best way to do it

[hexed steppe]

looking at fire if wanting to dominate solo. youll still have to do some work on heavies tho with capacitor

[serene flare]

I've seen someone running full armor and an Iron Lung
but I don't think I would be up for installng an auto-mouse program to hold M1 down at all times for me

[uncut elbow]

Iron long go brrrr on those builds

[serene flare]

every video I've seen with tank EP and an Iron Lung has been in group content, and it REALLY feels like massive copium when it comes to damage

[subtle bluff]

🤢 EP tanks...

[serene flare]

if I was doing group play for EP I would be running a fire sticky and then something like a riot foam chem

[hexed steppe]

oh, tank ep... just dont, please

[burnt bone]

The people have spoken

[subtle bluff]

Only reason Blue EP should ever be used is CD.... .

[hexed steppe]

not even there

[burnt bone]

They disapprove

[subtle bluff]

even then....

[serene flare]

I just need some way of staying alive lmao
no armor investment gets ROUGH, especially on Heroic

[subtle bluff]

The one time I've seen a Tank EP was someone made up the build to try to tank Wright....

[hexed steppe]

hazpro eclipse in countdown. still yellow core tho

[subtle bluff]

I laugh has he went down anyways..

[burnt bone]

Will any amount of armor investment really keep you alive in heroic

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no...

[hexed steppe]

not without another element

[burnt bone]

Water

[uncut elbow]

Bullet King any good in current update, or just there to throw thousand bullets down range without reloading?

[serene flare]

My current "mess around" EP build has Armor on Kill. I really want to incorporate an MMR just for some vibes/role play, but I think I'll just have to stick with Capacitor and The Mop for my survival aspect

[subtle bluff]

A build will not solely carry anyone thru any of the end game content.
You need a good mix of a build, gameplay and knowledge.