td2-build-advice

[subtle bluff]

Looks good. What's the blue gear mod?
Just make sure you have scorpio in hand or capa.

[serene flare]

The one blue is for Armor regen
I had it on Skill Haste, but I found that a tiny bit of Armor regen is really nice, especially since I'm just cowering behind cover most of the time

I don't know why more people don't use Spike as a gun stat stick
it increases the burn damage, and can double up with Damage to Armor

[subtle bluff]

Put on The Mop and there's both issues together.

Rarely have that issues where I'm being shot at while I'm cc everyone.

[serene flare]

I don't like doubling up on weapon types, it irks me in a weird way lol

[subtle bluff]

Then switch our scorpio for capa.

[serene flare]

Hmmm I would have to get a Mop, but I can try that out

[subtle bluff]

AoK and DTA.

[copper yarrow]

What gives more damage to a single target, overdogs or memento with full stacks

[onyx sage]

overdogs

[copper yarrow]

Okay okay

Is memeto too far behind damage wise? Debating whether to use memento or Overdogs on my HB build. Full stack memento regen is too good lol

[last kernel]

Depends what ur doing. Solo wise, I use memento. Maybe in group you can use overdogs

[subtle bluff]

At that point why are you on HB?

[copper yarrow]

Makes sense

[copper yarrow]

I don't get you..

[subtle bluff]

Vs striker.

[solar sable]

Chow means that if you're running Memento, why are you not using strikers instead maybe

[copper yarrow]

Ah okay

So memento is better on a striker vs HB

[last kernel]

Heartbreaker is only good for if ur soloing most of the time or if you run with a duo

But in a group just run striker

[copper yarrow]

Yes I'm trying to get into more solo olay

[solar sable]

If solo, go Strikers
If group, go Strikers
If raid, go Strikers
If real life, go Strikers

[copper yarrow]

F* HB then ,imma go striker techtank with strega lol

[subtle bluff]

HB is you're wanting some more survival.
Otherwise striker memento is enough.

[copper yarrow]

Understoood

Thanks for the advice guys

[subtle bluff]

Once you go like 4 red HB imo there's not much point of HB vs strikers memento.

[subtle bluff]

Someone is a striker fan.... 😵

[solar sable]

I like True Patriot, why isn't it meta?

[copper yarrow]

So on a striker build if I go with flatline+perfect spotter+overdogs, I'll get 65%amp damage in total?

[solar sable]

Careful, soldier. You're in a landmine field.

[copper yarrow]

Did I get it wrong

[subtle bluff]

Equalizer, Overdogs, killer

[burnt bone]

hmmmm memento strikers might be what im looking for

[copper yarrow]

Why would that be better, can you please explain? I'm trying to learn

[subtle bluff]

Simply more dmg.

Bigger numbers on talents and attributes.

[copper yarrow]

Goddamn

What LMG and SMG is that?

[subtle bluff]

MG5, SMG9

Don't mind the playstyle that's to force a DPS check on builds.

[lost wren]

i want to use regulus more either high end or hhf but it just feels off like i can't seem to get it to do the damage i want to, only like 14 mill headshots

is there something wrong with what i'm doing? or is reg just situational like that

[copper yarrow]

What do you mean don't mind? That was a great run haha

[subtle bluff]

What's the HHF build?

[subtle bluff]

It's reckless-ish

[onyx sage]

expertise

[lost wren]

damn is it really?

[onyx sage]

yes

14mil is about right for 0 expertise

[lost wren]

i'm only expertise 11 and i haven't gotten fully proficient with reg just yet, should probably get on it

[onyx sage]

yeah it's worth

[subtle bluff]

Last good day to have easier HH

[lost wren]

here's what i run for high end
though i think 3 pc IA is better no?

[onyx sage]

depends on whether you main pistol or not, but 3p IA is most impactful when you main reg 90% of the time and don't charge dodge

while the one you have is also good on your primaries

[lost wren]

gotcha

[onyx sage]

depends on the use case, i like this one more than 3p IA

[lost wren]

i know hhf is for leggo but can high end go up to leggo? or not so much

[subtle bluff]

I've never math this vs IA

[onyx sage]

it can

but a lot riskier

[lost wren]

ah right no crowd control

[subtle bluff]

AoK

[lost wren]

and that

[onyx sage]

just think of it like you'll be taking more damage. you have to know how to deal with the AI a lot more

[lost wren]

i guess i should just stick with this then no? if it's just better overall except for dark hours

[onyx sage]

knowing how to melee bait the AI helps in mitigating some of it

yeah keep it

[lost wren]

guess i should just get my expertise up

here would be the full proper build no?

m870 talent should be brazen lol

[strong cave]

looks right to me

[hexed steppe]

If in doubt, go mortar

[fossil crag]

I do one with pummel and one with braz. The braz I go health Dmg that’s my dog killer. (This build don’t work well on the mini dogs though haha) and chunga cracker

[lost wren]

what about the one with pummel?

[fossil crag]

Dmg outta cover

[lost wren]

no like why use one with pummel, should've specified

[fossil crag]

Ooo. Hahaha. For ooooo shyt moments where you know you can get 3 kills with out reloading (when you run out of reggy juice)

[subtle bluff]

First off Brazen is the strongest WD DMG talent in general. Pummel keep you from having to reload and the WD proc is pretty good too.

[fossil crag]

Also if you ditch that bread box rocket luncher go gunner you get armor on kill and that foam nade is top dog when camping doors,manhole covers

[magic pilot]

I'd go firewall the shield dmg is way better than 10% AoK when you get 20% with HF

[fossil crag]

You can. I like that foam nade and never needing a kit I swapped to fire wall for that exact reason and went right back. I keep yeeting clusters lol saying I miss my foam nade lol

I also run a full shield not that half one but the fire wall mods are good on the big one also. It’s all preference you bought the game you play it how you want to

[subtle bluff]

HF... The talent in it already made for camping doors..

[lost wren]

on that note how do you actually play hhf reg? do you stack first with white death? is it just regulues 99% of the time? what's the deal

[fossil crag]

I know……………. Hince why I said foam is good for hhf

Keeps them locked in place so they can’t run out like they the flash

[buoyant perch]

Start with regulus, then swap between regulus, M870, White death adapted to the situation

[onyx sage]

or

[lost wren]

wouldn't you start with white death for first shot on head hunter?

[onyx sage]

u become a madman and use white death to get first stack

or u use dodge city and just reg but you lose vigi

if the enemy is weak enough you can reg to start

i know reg has to be quite high expertise to single tap a red on leg solo

[lost wren]

does the final damage you get from head hunter differ depending on what you use to start it off?

[onyx sage]

yeah

base damage is what matters

if you mean max damage on reg, it's capped to reg's base

it's capped to the weapon you have in hand

so let's say you get max stack with white death then swap to reg, reg will also get max stack

but if you get max stack with reg then swap to white death, it won't be max cuz white death base > reg base

[lost wren]

so i should start stacking with white death before switching to reg
or just use dch

[onyx sage]

yes

[lost wren]

gotcha, that might be why i feel like i'm doing so low damage
what talent do i use on white death? determined or streamline

[solar sable]

git gud and use streamline whatver you like most, but Streamline is the pick i'd say

[lost wren]

gotcha

[atomic turtle]

What do you guys think? Can reroll for DTOC, but C&P isn't ideal. Usable or nah?

[solar sable]

mmmm nah

[atomic turtle]

Why does this talent even exist, lmao. It's just a worse brazen.

I guess I'll just toss it in the stash in case of the unlikely event the talent ever gets tweaked.

[subtle bluff]

Brazen was released somewhere TU20 or TU21 can't recall.
Before TU22 it wasn't bad. But now ya it's kind mid.

[atomic turtle]

Wasn't bad in what sense? I was under the impression it was an awful talent compared to other talents available even before Brazen. At the very least I was told that because of it's additive nature the damage increase wasn't even anywhere near 30% and was already beyond mid at that point.

Just asking for clarification, cause now I'm confused.

[subtle bluff]

Before talents like killer and measured were buffed to the point they are now.
Don't forget Brazen is a shotgun only talent.

Also it could be said with 1/3 of the talents never being used too.

[atomic turtle]

I typically saw Pummel and Fast Hands as the go-to Talents for shotguns.

At least that what I'd see most people run whenever I inspected their builds.

But this was long ago. Like years back.

[subtle bluff]

Never seeing someone use Fast Hands on shotgun.

[atomic turtle]

Supposedly it was meant to be good for sustained damage. Just keep spamming rounds or whatever.

Pummel was the big ooga booga one or whatever.

I never quite understood it though, I could really only see the ACS benefit from Fast Hands cause it's already so spammy with it's 20 mag size and high RPM.

[subtle bluff]

The reload speed nerf to acs12 was huge. It used to be way fast.

[atomic turtle]

How would you tweak Close & Personal now? Cause personally, I can't justify having the talent in the game as is right now. I mean... Brazen does a better job and... well... do SMGs ever even use it (C&P I mean)? I think a flat damage increase at specific range wouldn't really work.

[subtle bluff]

I mean the P. Version before TU22 was pretty good for HB.

[shy willow]

I believe dien used it before brazen

Six12 meta

[hazy steeple]

Wasn't that a bit of an old meta back in the day when Striker was still new to div2?

I distinctly recall having fast hands on my FMJ.

[shy willow]

Specifically on shotguns it was a short lived meta between fast hands working per pellet and brazen releasing

But yeah before fast hands was top tier

[glad pilot]

No

[fossil crag]

I still argue the lefty is the best acs12 with the drum mod slot

[fossil crag]

you have to target the red or purp 1st. if you find my steam all I do is play HHF you can get a good idea just look on twitch for a tofu fella haha

[fossil crag]

IIRC they nerfed reload speed on all guns right before the 1st set of modifiers came. they said ,again iirc, they nerfed the reload speed because the new modifiers would brake the game making reloading to fast because that 1st set had reload speed . or some BS. So IDK why they put reload speed in the modifiers but they did and here we are... try to reload a RPK takes longer then a snail to cross a road

[gloomy spruce]

I remember the even older meta that existed for years where most players just used the scorpio as their shotgun. It had cc, the six12 was a great weapon, and most of the shotgun talents were just lackluster in comparison.

Before the scorpio existed, most players barely bothered with shotguns at all.

[red island]

ayo, did people test the new gear ? anything good out of it ?

[gentle lichen]

cc?

its good on pest

unit is really good

[burnt bone]

If I use memento in group activities, will allied kills drop kill confirms?

[smoky latch]

No

[burnt bone]

can i get a diff answer plz 👉 👈 🥺

[hazy steeple]

I can lie and say yes, if that helps.

[burnt bone]

yayy thank you <33

clem

[hazy steeple]

He always makes me happy.

RIP DataReaper.

[burnt bone]

i havent helped him in too long :(

[cold veldt]

Too fill out an entire expertise of a gear
How many of the same gear you need to deposit or however you call it
Anyone knows??

[fresh fox]

depends on item type

[patent fossil]

For weapons, named items and exotics, 20 donations.
For regular gearset and brandset items, 100

[fresh fox]

yea that

[cold veldt]

Ah alot of grinding then 🤣
Since it’s exotic

Oh well keeps me busy with something I guess

[patent fossil]

Yeah for exotics you're better off donating materials or actually using them. Same for restricted drop named items like Enforcer, Stack broker etc.

[burnt bone]

Just need crit chance/damage gloves and I’ll have the full heartbreaker :))

[hoary raptor]

Wait what’s this about donating for expertise?

Returning player it’s all been since last I’ve been on - haven’t really played since NY dlc

[cerulean smelt]

you donate the gear, weapons to gain proficiency or materials for the skills and specializations each time you gain 10 proficiency in gear, weapons, skills or specializations you get expertise levels which you uprade the gear, weapons, skills and specialization to do 1% more damage or gain 1% more armor from the white base number of the gears

[hoary raptor]

Where do you donate?

[solar sable]

B > Tinkering > Expetise > Donate Junk

[lost wren]

curious about this build, assuming i'll be spamming pulse
would this be good?

for the master mission

[serene flare]

what should I recalibrate this Mop to, if I should change Vindictive at all.

[lost wren]

brazen

[serene flare]

That's what I was thinking myself. I just wasn't sure if it would be better with gun utility, or team utility

[subtle bluff]

No need to spam pulse. If you cared that much just use a sharpshooter drone.
No striker chest.

[subtle bluff]

In-Sync, Future Prefect or sure in the group Vindictive.

[blissful oracle]

I don't judge people for how they build their loadouts but I was just in a group with three of the goofiest builds I've ever seen in my life. I'm not trying to talk shit, I want to know what their thought process was when they set their builds up.

[subtle bluff]

It's wild what you'll see in the wild.

Trust I've seen some of the dumbest things and at alllll SHD levels.

[blissful oracle]

You got me there. I don't join public matchmaking very often so I have been baffled by some of the shit I've seen.

[subtle bluff]

I like a challenge... Sometimes I want to hurt myself with what I can carry.

[blissful oracle]

One of them had a Striker/Heartbreaker with the Ninja Bike Backpack setup, which I didn't think was that bad until I noticed that none of his attributes were rolled for crit chance or crit damage.

[lost wren]

3 pc striker with chest, ninjabike bag, and picaro's + fox's prayer

i'm in a match with a guy using this right now 💀

[subtle bluff]

30k SHD with TP build and starts all leggo fights no matter if the team is ready.

[blissful oracle]

That doesn't sound bad on paper. What are his attributes?

[subtle bluff]

And only hides.

[blissful oracle]

I'd say the worst experience I've had with someone who was SHD Level 10K+ was this guy who tried to pull the "I'm a day one player, so I know more than you do."

That had me heated because I'm also a day-one player, and I was a beta tester for this game. The only reason my SHD Level isn't at 10K is that I've played the game on and off. Even then, SHD Level means nothing after 1,000 unless you care that much about the health increase, which caps at 2,000.

Then he had the audacity to say I was being toxic 💀

[lost wren]

sounds about right

[blissful oracle]

Those kinds of players represent what's wrong with gaming nowadays but that's another story. Anyway, there is a Striker build I just started using that I've been having a lot of fun with.

[hazy steeple]

@blissful oracle That's enough of that. Nothing is "wrong with gaming nowadays".

[blissful oracle]

The build I'm referring to is my take on Striker with Equalizer, Salvo, and Ninja Bike Backpack.

One of my clanmates suggested that I try using Stack Broker with Pummel and it is nasty combined with this setup.

[subtle bluff]

Makes less sense on Stack Broker... It does less dmg than normal acs12

[blissful oracle]

It does, but it somehow works for me, at least. I'm not even proficient with the Stack Broker yet.

[subtle bluff]

I mean if you're targeting all reds and getting 3 kills within one mag go for it!

[blissful oracle]

I think it's because of how fast Stack Broker builds up Striker's Gamble on top of the increased Rate of Fire and the extra 50% Magazine Size.

[burnt bone]

What were they arguing about

[subtle bluff]

What magazine size?

[blissful oracle]

I usually target reds and purples then switch to the Eagle Bearer to mow down the elites with headshots.

[blissful oracle]

Unit Alloys adds the extra mag size because I have the NinjaBike Backpack as my exotic.

[subtle bluff]

Sounds even more wierd to me. Doing overall less DPS than with BP.

If it works it works.

[blissful oracle]

If I remember correctly, I was trying to give one of my friends advice, and the SHD Level 10K+ just kept cutting in and trying to contradict me. So, I called him out on it.

[blissful oracle]

I could always recalibrate it for Brazen at a later time.

[burnt bone]

I have jazz hands on my stack broker, I don’t like reloading :3

[subtle bluff]

Stack Broker is just for building stacking its end mag dmg will always be lower than normal acs12.

I need to get another one and throw ROF on it.

[blissful oracle]

That is true. EB is my main source of DPS, Stack Broker is just there to warm things up.

[burnt bone]

I accidentally recalibrated my talent without realizing stack brokers are rare ;-;

So I’m stuck with dttooc for now

[blissful oracle]

I don't see how that's an issue because I swear by DTOC.

[subtle bluff]

We can get one from caches.

[burnt bone]

If I’m just using it to stack, damage doesn’t matter :3 SB boosted fire rate + FR minor attribute is the fastest stacking in the game I believe

[burnt bone]

Shweet

[subtle bluff]

Point again is that stack broker is just for stacking.

[blissful oracle]

Fair enough lol

[copper yarrow]

stoner, GR9 or MG5, whats the better LMG

[solar sable]

for what?

[copper yarrow]

I'm general, like the police M4 or Lexington are recommended best non named ARs

[cerulean smelt]

think @solar sable wants to know the build you're asking about in general

[copper yarrow]

Sorry my bad lol

For strikers and nego. I'm bored of using Iron lung pesti and the BS

So I want to try a normal lng

[burnt bone]

i think MG5 is considered good

[cerulean smelt]

no clue honestly, if you were like "it's for tipping scaled" i'd say a frenzied stoner or GR9 is great for it

[burnt bone]

as is m249

This is in the tipping scales doc, I’m not sure if it applies to other builds tho? But I imagine so

And the strikers doc specifically mentions MG5 🤷🏻‍♂️

[cerulean smelt]

went over your head didn't it?

[burnt bone]

What did ;-;

[cerulean smelt]

all i mentioned if they were asking for a good LMG for TIpping scaled i would've told them a frenzied gr9 or stoner, you mention it from a doc. yeah, way over your head 😹

[burnt bone]

Oh I didn’t even read your reply

[solar sable]

I personally don't like Stoner, GR9 Frenzy is so good although I wouldn't* use it as a main

[copper yarrow]

Where is this from

[burnt bone]

its in the pinned spreadsheet, are you on pc or ios rn

[copper yarrow]

Android

[burnt bone]

Well it’s probably still the same

Click on “td2-build-advice” at the top of screen

3rd button from the left should be “pins”

Click on the spreadsheet link

The “hub” page on the excel has pretty detailed guides/explanations on a lot of the popular builds

Me when Riven sticks pins and needles in me 😔

[copper yarrow]

Sweeet thanks man

[left zenith]

Hi all, me a returning player after a few years out of td2,
i was trying to tweak a striker build with more survivability, i got
coyote mask,
equalizer chest /w perf obliterate and armor as core attri.
striker holster , kneepad, gloves, and bag all with armor core attrib,
primary gun is chameleon

but i find the lack of armor regen is weak, any of you tried similar build?

[solar sable]

Want armor? Go Heartbreaker
Either way your armor will always be shot down, immortality doesn't exist, all you will achieve is get overwhelmed and thus get killed

Armor regen is useless outside of pvp too

[burnt bone]

i've recently tried out memento on strikers and it's felt pretty decent. Equalizer chest, 4pc strikers. You lose damage by dropping overdogs/coyote and backpack but I like the armor regen you dont have to think about 🤷‍♂️

[solar sable]

Want Strikers and survivability? Go Memento

[left zenith]

alrite sounds like a plan, thanks guys

[subtle bluff]

I'll fix that later.

2 different/mix of authors...

[burnt bone]

oh is that not true haha

ive been keeping my mg5s because i thought they were good 👉 👈 🥺 dont think ive tried them yet tho

[subtle bluff]

I'm mostly updating guides. TS was one of the newer guides.

[subtle bluff]

They are good.

[burnt bone]

oh ok they were just left out of the TS guide accidentally

[subtle bluff]

Prooooof

[burnt bone]

your mailbox is full

is that CHC third attribute?'

Is it the IRS

[karmic zodiac]

Would heartbreaker and bluescreen be a good combo?

[left zenith]

yeaaa

i use that build too

[subtle bluff]

Eh. It's ok your burst is rather low due to Bluescreen not having any crit mods.

[fossil crag]

@timid token

BOTH GOld are named items and in the Seasson tracker for freeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[timid token]

Ah here it is

[timid token]

Nice

[timid token]

Where the gun at

[fossil crag]

THE Police M4 is what you want

and idk what ever you want fgor 2nd gun

[timid token]

I’ll grind it then does it have a exotic or is it just uncommon

[fossil crag]

jsut a gold police m4 with ranger is what I like

[timid token]

Ok

Ranger attachment right

[fossil crag]

its a talant

[timid token]

Also is there video how to get gold police m4

[fossil crag]

count down-target loot-ar

[timid token]

Oh so I do countdown and at the end I get the gold police ar ?

[fossil crag]

its a commin gun you can get it at a vender if they have one you can get it in a cash a box on the ground in open world its jsut a norm butt gun brother

no loot is random so if you target ar you might get it as a drop

[wispy hollow]

Not at the end but as a random drop

[timid token]

Ah

I just kill enemy in countdown and then it might drop for the ar

[subtle bluff]

Gold gear we is called HE (High-End) that is normal loot when you're level 40.

[timid token]

Aw man I can’t do countdown cause I’m lvl 20

[cerulean smelt]

only 20 and already worrying about builds? worry about getting 40 first then come back and ask

[subtle bluff]

and that's why I've been asking what SHD they are first now.

[fossil crag]

🤦‍♂️

[burnt bone]

*your’re

[fossil crag]

Ask if i care

[burnt bone]

Do you care?

[hazy steeple]

Just kiss and get it over already you two.

[fossil crag]

NOPE!!!🤣 but if it triggers you.. Ill let my dislexia take over adn rlaely lte ti take ocver

[burnt bone]

@fossil crag she said we’re good meet me out back

[fossil crag]

i love how yall are you cant say this cant do that we love everyone but let someone with a lerning disibily start typing

[fossil crag]

my DM's are open

[burnt bone]

I was kidding, your’re is also the incorrect spelling ;-;

[hazy steeple]

Okay that's enough, back to the builds now.

[burnt bone]

Is overdogs better on heartbreaker than coyote mask

[fossil crag]

im old school so no.

BUt I mean if you can get them to work then they prob do lotta dmg. I hear people say its like having vig on yuoer 😜 glove

but honestly HB is kinda DOA well DAF (dead after fix ) all them years ago. i do run it in countdown but I use the scabber holster so i get the 20 dmg and 20 ROF for my ar and every time i go back to my acs 12 its fully loaded that to me seem way moe better

[subtle bluff]

Yes it is.

[honest helm]

I'm very much enjoying Sheriff looking forward to making a build more favored to it.

[last schooner]

are contractors with skill dmg used in skill builds?

[fossil crag]

yes

[subtle bluff]

it's something to keep. May not use it but ya

[last schooner]

that's right, DTA boost oxi? doesn't boost drones or turret right?

[wispy hollow]

Correct

[fossil crag]

i think dmg outta cover and armor only effects oxy

[wispy hollow]

Thats correct

Assault turret and striker drone not dealing DTA and DTOOC is a shame considering they are firing at ARMOR of a target that is OUT OF COVER

[fossil crag]

brah!!!!!! GG man

[wispy hollow]

All of these info is in the spreadsheet under Pins

[fossil crag]

i like charts and graffs hahah I said graffs LOL

[fossil crag]

never taught of looking up there/ didnt know it was a chart I needed LOL

[hazy hull]

Any tips on making an engineer build

[subtle bluff]

can you be more specific on that?

[hazy hull]

Currently running refractor with turret and striker drone and just curious if there's any more powerful sets or anything like that

[subtle bluff]

Depends on what you want to do. Your build isn't finish.

It's missing a bit.

[last schooner]

Refractor boost skill dmg?

[subtle bluff]

The 3pcs bonus is 25% Skill dmg

[last schooner]

wow

thought it was a healer set

[wispy hollow]

Its both. Your skills do skill damage which turns the damage your skills do to healing you and your teammates armor

Its in the gearset description

[hazy hull]

Yea so skill tier 6 damage of a turret and striker drone giving me constant heals but idk I feel like it's lacking in damage still

[subtle bluff]

You're build is missing Skill dmg.

The at this rate doesn't matter. Since 2pc Hana is Skill dmg.

You're missing Capacitor and Skill dmg on your build.

[hazy hull]

Yea Hana and refractor both provide skill damage along with my tiers

[subtle bluff]

Turret/Drone will always not the most DPS.

[hazy hull]

What's the Best DPS skill

[subtle bluff]

But then Gear Mods should be CHC so Capa does more

[subtle bluff]

Best at what?

There is no just "Best" skill

[hazy hull]

Well you said turret and drone aren't the best DPS so what is

[subtle bluff]

In general I said.

[hazy hull]

Ahh ok

[subtle bluff]

Any build that has Red cores will always out DPS a turret and drone

[hazy hull]

Ok

[subtle bluff]

What I posted above is the best you can get out of the build has a whole.

It is a hybrid.

[hazy hull]

Ok chill will do refractor HE and hopefully get capacitor in my caches

[subtle bluff]

OH.. He blocked me

Yeah you can go to Summit to get it

[hazy hull]

Ok I'll try it and see what it's like thanks for the help

[burnt bone]

Which builds do yall think can handle the master mission?

[subtle bluff]

Striker

"The" you mean current?

[left zenith]

u need like perfect gear for master mission and insane aggress style play, from the videos ive seen

[subtle bluff]

Didn't need PFE to do clear this master. This was the easier master to do yet so far.

Just the boss is bugged so it's not solo able currently.

[last schooner]

are all manhunt final missions bugged?

[subtle bluff]

No just this one

[last schooner]

I have PTSD from the Manager one

[subtle bluff]

But it was still doable to degree

Meh my first like 4-6 clears of manager master was no issues.

Then I got a bug one.

[strong cave]

Hotshot:
Ongoing Directive:
Negotiator's Dilemma:
Healer:
Crowd Control:

Not a single one of us here recommends Master with PFE strikers. Positioning is everything to prevent taking damage. Mechanics are second to that

That and a well tossed decoy does the trick too

[subtle bluff]

I did my 4th clear today on my alt toon with OD and FI.

[strong cave]

I have yet to touch it and the last thing I'd walk into it with is pfe strikers. You'd see me running ninjabike before going that route

[solar sable]

people who use armor sleep on decoy so bad

[strong cave]

I call those people "team dependent"

[subtle bluff]

Funny enough you can actually tank the boss. He's a proximity based agro.

[strong cave]

Would go perfect with my vanguard build 💯

[subtle bluff]

Ya use that over FI acutal wouldn't be bad at all

but the boss is bugged so it is hard DPS check and if you catch the water in time.

[strong cave]

If you can aggro the boss then applying shock or confuse if possible plus a shield pop is instant 2m armor for the team

[subtle bluff]

Just a Melee bait.

[strong cave]

Every 25s as well. Galvanized less than that obv

[subtle bluff]

when he does swing is all you need for it

[strong cave]

Yeah pretty much what the build I have is set up for. Plus my shield will literally be invulnerable for 5s for the team. I frequently use it to hard push even hunters and force them to melee me. I laugh in 5s God mode 😂

[subtle bluff]

I've been to build a support tank I just... bleh

[strong cave]

It'll be a free day for me tomorrow after I get my car fixed. Hope this one isn't as rage inducing as the previous tidal one

Those marauders at the end...

[subtle bluff]

IH

[strong cave]

Yeah that's the part I'm not looking forward to. Iron Horse. Would rather be ran over by an Iron Horse

[burnt bone]

There’s a guy in my clan discord telling everyone to run a high end PFE build for masters

I feel like that’s wrong but I dont know a lot tbh ;-;

[subtle bluff]

2 strikers at least and things are pretty easy.

This Climax in general is EASY but if players aren't on it or clearing things it can be rough.

[solar sable]

He's trying to drag you to the Tank route because you don't know much about builds yet I suppose

[burnt bone]

Idk hes making it sound like HE PFE is the only viable build

[solar sable]

it's basically the same concept I was talking about

[burnt bone]

He might just be a believer

[solar sable]

he has a youtuber mentality for sure

[burnt bone]

He said strikers builds would be torn apart and I’m trying to figure out a nice of asking if that might be a positioning issue he never got around to learning

[onyx sage]

send him one of my runs xD

[subtle bluff]

or come do a Leggo run with us

[solar sable]

IMO, just ask that, he will most likely hate you or insult you. If you don't follow or agree with them you will get excluded for the simple reason that you realize tanks are useless in this game

[solar sable]

sir will get +1 hackusation

[onyx sage]

the people do not believe in the church of full red...

[hexed steppe]

Lootcifer believes...
he believes full reds are just as worthy a sacrifice as any other core loadout

[fiery gust]

Damage is king lol.

[solar sable]

all red pvgc soldiers, arise.

[grand girder]

it might seem crazy what im bout to say

[hexed steppe]

maybe ill be lucky enough for grandson to carry me through master this weekend 👴

[grand girder]

hallelujah I believe

[onyx sage]

nah doomz got u

[hexed steppe]

😭

[solar sable]

i wonder who that doomz guy is

[fiery gust]

What you mean? He about to do the first mortar solo for proof it's possible. 😌

[last schooner]

Hotshot build with Chainkiller and overdogs + shroud?

[solar sable]

🌭 so good

[hexed steppe]

idk if mortar good for master

[fiery gust]

It's your time to shine.

[grand girder]

if supremacy how no good master eh?

sterk i have

[hexed steppe]

i should actually look up the mission because at this point i still have no clue about the mission

supremacy most* places

[burnt bone]

True I’ve been watching your solos, those are crazy

[solar sable]

he's not human

[grand girder]

he is indeed cracked

[burnt bone]

Yooo I got Lexington

And dttooc chatterbox? I’m cracked

What is chatter used on typically

[grand girder]

very good on hf and striker

Personally I run it on striker overdogs PGC for heroic content

[solar sable]

it's good if you can kill one enemy with one mag

[grand girder]

sometimes nego if I'm feeling it

[solar sable]

what about HotChatter

[grand girder]

half a mag preferably

[onyx sage]

it's so negover...

[grand girder]

nedogs

[strong cave]

I mean, I'll take it considering I basically bought it with textiles 😂 (ignore the fact I'm on a steam deck for the time being)

Would've preferred a ravenous since I have 4 of these already but eh free comp

[fossil crag]

Your game looks amazing you on max settings..?

[strong cave]

Hell no 😂 I run a custom potato config to get 60 fps and higher. Right now you're seeing it capped at 45 and all the power settings/resolution scale dumped just to maximize the battery on my deck. Currently away from pc so it was all I had to use to log in and quickly pick up 50 levels for the stretch event

[fossil crag]

Ahhhhhhhhhh

Well it looks good on that deck.

[strong cave]

1024x768 with upscaling/sharpening. I think it's at 75% reso scale so at full power it looks way better

[cold veldt]

St. Elmo’s engine a good gun? Just got it in a countdown run

[glad heart]

Yes it is a good gun. You will want to have Damage to Target Out of Cover as the third attribute however. If you don't have that, it needs to be reconfigured.

[cold veldt]

Slowly getting to my first build and saw few good words about this gun so I went for it
But the video’s were a bit old so wonderd if it was still good

[glad heart]

It is still good, even great if you will.

[cold veldt]

Alright thanks

[glad heart]

welcome

[subtle bluff]

There’s a better starting/farm guide in build hub. That’s in Pinned Messages > Sheet 2 > Build Hub

[cold veldt]

I know ty

[glad pilot]

do i just replace these for turmoils if i want to kill the boss?

[patent fossil]

Yup. With reanimated it's pretty quick and easy just using the adds that spawn near him, without you might have to lure others over.
Nice sly unicorn brag though.

[glad pilot]

i think u were already there when i bragged about getting them lol

[buoyant perch]

Turmoil and overdog

[rich lotus]

I need to farm death grips. Do I put them on my Elmo / striker and salvo obliterate chest build or hunters fury?

[buoyant perch]

You can use Palisade for AoK instead

[rich lotus]

I'm fairly new and I heard the gloves are good that's all. Currently running 4 pce striker salvo chest and holster

[glad pilot]

w equalizer?

[marsh river]

question about Bittersweet - "all hits are guaranteed headshots for 8 s after healing an ally o r skill whitle at maximum stacks" - im assuming this applies only to the heal from the weapon itself, or does any heal work?

if not, then its possible to make a shield heal build and go nuts, right?

[rich lotus]

Salvo obliterate chest holster I think gives me xtra ammo I think?

[glad pilot]

Is it equalizer chest piece tho

[rich lotus]

Yes I believe so

[glad pilot]

U r pretty much set, the next step would be to get the overdogs gloves, and replace the holster with a striker

[rich lotus]

That's what I was thinking yes. Is death grips better?

[glad pilot]

No

[subtle bluff]

what is going on here...

[winged prism]

anyone got a good build for the sherriff? its really fun with reanimated, but i think once the event's over itll feel alot slower

[strong cave]

Did you craft those bad boys or did the drop as loot?

[strong cave]

Based on testing from @onyx sage , our local punching bag for all things niche and crazy, it's ass at best

[glad pilot]

craft

[strong cave]

I'll need to run CD a couple hundred times to get my Habs back up... Oh and clear 1 of 4 full characters and a full stash to make room for crafting... Yayyyy 🥲

[glad pilot]

ur chances of dropping it are abysmal

[strong cave]

(my stash is full bc I play PvE/pvp content and keep plenty of pieces just in case)

[strong cave]

I know that way too much. Sadly I've had plenty of unicorn Lengmo pieces that I've crafted. But that damn backpack eludes me

[subtle bluff]

Dunno about ass. For one shotting wise M870 Brazen does more still.

[strong cave]

That's because Brazen is part of a whole different damage source compared to sher being just built in WD and no damage drop off

Plus you actually have the option to take crit mods compared to sher

The gun looks kinda cool, but the feedback I've been reading about it hasn't been as positive as people thought the gun would be

[winged prism]

ive been looking forward to this gun all season so im gonna pretend you said its top tier and keep using it

cant afford another L right now

[strong cave]

Expertise it to 30, then it might be worth it

[grand girder]

but never zero

(both crafted I'm not that lucky lmao)

[glad pilot]

ikr

[strong cave]

Now get 6 piece red Palisades

[grand girder]

am working on that

also brazos

[strong cave]

I've got a few Brazos ones I looted over the last few years. Kinda got phased out bc of Unit being a thing. Unless ur weird and go 3 unit 3 brazos

On HF with chatter I typically take Ceska + Zwi. It's enough to keep my mag loaded with kill refresh

[grand girder]

Nah I meant same uni roll and 6pc of same set

meme builds

[glad pilot]

hmm

[burnt bone]

trying a HE build because why not, any modifications off the bat? I dont have overdogs or providence pieces besides the ones im using. CHC is 60%, CHD is like 105

[livid sorrel]

personally i'd replace the chest with equalizer

[lost wren]

or just use striker because high end ar is

[hexed steppe]

looks good for highend.

[hexed steppe]

sacrifice is superior

i would just use a different secondary. like lmg or rifle

[burnt bone]

oh true thats my stacking secondary

[slate wedge]

don’t treat it like a Pump-Action, treat it like a DPS weapon

[strong cave]

Stacking for what lmao oblit is only 1 hit per count, and it goes by bullets and not pellets

[strong cave]

What's sad is an m870 with brazen and crit mods will still do more

The only special thing about sher is the fact it's fairly accurate and no damage drop off. At that rate just run marksman if worried about doing big damage with no drop off

[slate wedge]

DPS?

Sheriff has like THE highest burst dps in the game lol

[serene flare]

wondering if it would be better to switch off the EP backpack and Elictrique gloves and go with China Light
CL will give me explosive damage for my grenade to boost up The Vile, but I lose out on the EP backpack talent

but a China Light could let me use the wider range spread talent

[burnt bone]

I highly doubt it, losing 30% damage amp isn’t worth it

[serene flare]

Yeah, I just wasn't sure if the damage added from China Light would even things out

[slate wedge]

(apart from maybe Strega, Backfire or Chameleon)

[burnt bone]

Napkin math (eg the voices in my head) tells me it isn’t

[serene flare]

what are the ways to increase the damage that The Vile does aside from explosives damage?

[fathom gazelle]

Hey guys 👋👋 i have full striker build with st elmos and overdogs exotics .. i have 49 crit chance and 140 crit damage and chest with obliterate ..should i add more crit chance ??

[shy willow]

Glass cannon and status effects

[hexed steppe]

definitely not. 30%amp is way too strong

[serene flare]

gocha tyty

[burnt bone]

I don’t think that’s particularly built for, I imagine vile is just the best option

[burnt bone]

Yeah as close to 60% crit as possible is ideal

[shy willow]

Just adds another tick to help w damage

[serene flare]

I've seen some people go with Gunner over Firewall for EP just because The Vile gets boosted by the extra explosives damage passive

[burnt bone]

What mods are you using? Can you swap some crit damage mods to crit chance, try for 60% chc and 120% chd @fathom gazelle

[serene flare]

but I think the general burn damage increase is far better

[hexed steppe]

now if you want to increase damage above vile, remove it, slot in overdogs. youre fire will be stronger with overdogs than fire+vile tick

[shy willow]

All roads lead to overdogs

It will force you into tech but for a 30 percent amp...

[hexed steppe]

they would need to use demo class for the extra explosives

[serene flare]

demo yeah, not gunner

[hexed steppe]

ive seen burn sticky have burn ticks over 1mil with overdogs (overclipse protodogs)

[fathom gazelle]

I am full red core with crit chance and crit damage but yhea i will swap some to go as close to 60 as possible ..thanks a lot

[burnt bone]

The cores are probably fine, I’m wondering what mods are on your armor

Like the mask, chest, and backpack mod slots

[serene flare]

what knees are those?

[hexed steppe]

snow machine, any eletrique works tho

they not really special

[serene flare]

gocha, wasn't sure what the talent was

[shy willow]

Overclipse protodog sounds like it'd be a boss encounter to rival sparkles

[hexed steppe]

i would go all in with the burn. whatever the pulse is, isnt worth it with you could have a second big damage source

[shy willow]

Firestarter and burn sticky

[serene flare]

I tried for a while
and I do when I'm in sticky content

[shy willow]

And if you're really fancy, THE firestarter double barrel

[serene flare]

I mostly play for vibes though
I don't like the look of the chem launcher, I think it's doofy

[shy willow]

For burning warhounds

[hexed steppe]

not with overdogs tho

[serene flare]

I mean... the EMP Pulse just kills warhounds

[hexed steppe]

yeah, but nothing else

[serene flare]

it adds a Vile proc too

[hexed steppe]

what, 120k

[serene flare]

and shuts down drones and RC mfs that come near me

I found that it's a LOT more useful than I originally thought
I mostly just had it on for grinding out normal mode content since The Vile just kills things outright

[hexed steppe]

i get it, but its not bringing big damage and thats usually where ep falls short in higher content. lower content yeah, its fine

[serene flare]

Yup, if I'm doing higher end content I just switch Sticky to chem launcher since that obliterates things

and for the most part I'm just running solo open-world stuff
CPs, bounties, even local small activities

speaking of, I should probably focus some gear mods and try to get Skill Damage ones
I don't have any since for the last 7 years I've done nothing but play Nemesis sniper

[fathom gazelle]

Crit chance and crit damage ..not maxed out btw ..the rng wasnt by my side .. like 5.8 crit chance and 11% crit damage .are the highest mods i have

[burnt bone]

Which ones are you currently using that have resulted in 50% crit chance

And can you just swap a crit damage mod to a crit chance mod

That would be fine

[half cosmos]

i got a 6p tech gunner for armor on kill whats good skills to use here?

[hexed steppe]

turret /drone, i used to use a similar setup based on high damage/aok

its largly outclassed by refactor now tho

[half cosmos]

ah so i am kinda late to the party?

[hexed steppe]

kinda, its still gonna be a solid setup, but refactor delivers constant heals during damage while the aok hits are not quite as consistent

plus refactor heals the team too

either way turret/drone have a lot of uptime and give best potential for sustained heals or aok depending on the setup. with long uptime and short cooldown your chest is opened to glass for higher damage output

[half cosmos]

i see i got it a bit spread in damage cooldown and duration

[half cosmos]

for refactor focus on red rolls or yellow?

[hexed steppe]

yellow

build it like your afk. as long as you have your 6 skilltiers you can still stick with whatever spec you prefer

[half cosmos]

i dont mean cores i ment roles like chc chd or skill damage etc?

[hexed steppe]

same difference, build like an afk. skill damage and haste. you can roll crit if preferred and utilize capacitor

this is an older shot but one way i set mine up

[half cosmos]

i have never bulld an afk i will be honest lol

[hexed steppe]

what you posted was basically an afk. just didnt have the turret/drone

[half cosmos]

ah

[hexed steppe]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19QJV66vqREDim4BKtW5qffSmsgN02tMd5LiuwUuJdGY/edit?usp=drive_link

MrChow has a hybrid showcase that can also be easily searched up if prefer the crit/hybrid route

[half cosmos]

will check it out gonna try this with drone and oxi/flame first then imama build a refactor

[hexed steppe]

sounds like a plan

[half cosmos]

flame is better than oxy darn i loved the idea of oxy

ok nooo oxy FUN

[strong cave]

so I did a ting...

it shoots so stupidly fast 😭 striker stacks 200 is achieved in basically no time 😭

[strong cave]

for anybody wondering:

[mild palm]

i have still yet to find a combo that beats this lol not even coyote + perfect obliterate

Tops out at 1.69 million crit headshots. Additional 10% rate of fire from the named unit alloys holster. And that's with 2 blue armor pieces so im not basically oneshot all the time on top of the shield.

[strong cave]

im seeing 2 blue cores, chameleon that has a roller coaster damage talent, a missing mask mod, and striker chest that is near impossible to maintain 200 stacks outside of raids. also, why the marksman rifle as a secondary? if youre going to have 200 stacks, at least use an ACS12 to stack them up

or better yet, ditch salvo and just use equalizer chest

[mild palm]

tried that build, it cuts the max damage by 400 thousand

and i have the 2 blue's on purpose so im not a perpetual 1 shot

[solar sable]

with max stacks, read again. You cannot build or maintain 200 stacks outside of Raids

[strong cave]

thats because after a certain point it starts to become better than ceska oblit. thats IF and ONLY IF you can even maintain those 200 stacks. which in heroic, things die too quickly to even maintain

[mild palm]

and i dont partiuclarly care about insta building max stacks i get there quck with the ricer'd chameleon already

[strong cave]

also, dying in 1 shot is a major exaggeration. its more like 4-6 shots

[burnt bone]

Not outside of the shooting range

[solar sable]

You cannot die to 1 shot because there's a thing called Health Gate which prevents getting one shot

[mild palm]

it's basically instant in master/legendary

[strong cave]

your other problem is taking coyote, a dead piece

[solar sable]

You are not understanding what we're trying to say...

[mild palm]

what...lol

[strong cave]

yeah thats because the enemies have like twice the health and in groups the health scales up, making your build a staple shooter towards them, especially with coyote and chameleon and zero stacking weapon

[strong cave]

ODogs gives 30% amp damage which is significantly better than just crit from coyote

you can go from hitting only 800k to 1.2m to the body by shooting specific enemies

unlike coyote giving you a whopping 25% chd at close range

[solar sable]

Take Strikers chest off and use Equalizer and keep Salvo, you have an even better setup for regular content

[strong cave]

this is what you want to run:

equalizer chest is fine as well

[solar sable]

pgc gang?

[strong cave]

can play glass easily, i just prefer oblit bc may as well just stack since striker is stacks

[mild palm]

this gets close with chameleon, elmo is still just worse in every way when maxed out on damage

[solar sable]

Again, Strikers chest wins when you can maintain its stacks, if you can't, just do Equalizer

[subtle bluff]

Elmo vs Chameleon?

[solar sable]

CC talent vs crit* stacking talent (which fluctuates)
it's not even a fair comparison

[lost wren]

striker chest is also only good in like boss room or something, leggo roosevelt island comes to mind

i switch to striker chest, bag, and 2 pc ua to deal with those

other than that striker chest is just not worth it in comparison to perfect ob or perfect glass

[strong cave]

elmos vs chameleon is a wild take. considering its got the handling and range of an SMG but its classed as an AR. the only reason cham beats elmos is because it has a damage talent. elmos is a utility weapon with better sustained dps

[cerulean smelt]

i can see you don't like the discussion, but this is why you're getting it you know right? you posted your build here, but it's getting torn apart because there is better out there. think even if you posted in community it'd still get the same treatment but mods might recommend posting it here for further discussion which would still be what you've gotten so far

[fiery gust]

Elmo > Chameleon even with everything considered. Not even really a choice.

[onyx sage]

health gate is why full red builds work

if it's not there, then i wouldn't have videos soloing every legendary and master (except the newest one)

[cerulean smelt]

why not the newest one yet? 😹

[onyx sage]

still routing duh

[cerulean smelt]

aside the last boss part, with needing to put him out at some point? can't imagine you managing that honestly

[onyx sage]

i will say... never say never xD

if i managed the pact solo full red no modifiers, this will take some time still but i haven't ruled it out completely

[fiery gust]

It has been done solo already. He just has to figure out how to do it without the things that make it easier, which aren't always available lol.

[cerulean smelt]

i'm just teasing Dien 😹

[fiery gust]

We all tell him he can't, so that way he is more motivated. Smart.

[grand girder]

I've made it to the boss with full red glass backfire everything before can be done still working on boss tho

that dude whooped my ass real quick lmao

[fiery gust]

From the video I saw, it looks like the play is to kill him super quick. I'm not sure how viable that is without any event or anything on.

[grand girder]

well if it isn't glitchless% it don't count IMO

reanimated doesn't exactly take skill, but one shotting has already been found without any events

[cerulean smelt]

nods i imagine everything upto that point anything works. i feel the kinks of how long can a player physically sit there and fill him with lead

[grand girder]

well its a hypermax build expertise included and its still very hard to do so I wouldnt really say anything works, just that its possible

[strong cave]

POV my dad legendary when refactor isnt healing:

[cerulean smelt]

wish there was a more fool proof way of getting the hunter in there though

[bronze plaza]

anybody got any advice for this just got my overdogs and came up with this build, got bloodsucker on the backpack too and i want a pair of knee pads with more armor for better survival

[strong cave]

if you want better survivability, can easily ditch that holster and take a palisades one

id also ditch those grupo kneepads for a pair of ceska kneepads

itll raise both your chc and your chd

[copper yarrow]

I've been really liking using normal weapons instead of exotics recently, for e.g MG5 goes hard with strikers and and Stoner works so good with Nego

[strong cave]

MG5 is pretty good since it is one of the best burst DPS LMGs you can use

also pretty sure the reload on it is pretty decent too

[copper yarrow]

Yes plus with mods the accuracy and stability is pretty good too

[junior lagoon]

need a one shot sniper build suggestion

looked at spreadsheet but was not very helpful

[copper yarrow]

3 hotshot, chainkiller overdogs and airaldi bah with Vigilance

All rolled to headshot damage and wep handling

[junior lagoon]

thanks. what is airaldi bah ?

[copper yarrow]

Sorry Airaldi brand backpack with Vigilance talent

[junior lagoon]

what weapon?

[strong cave]

any MMR with determined. White Death would be best. Handbasket works really well too though

[junior lagoon]

mods all headhunt?

[copper yarrow]

Open with Nemesis

[copper yarrow]

Yes all headshot damage mods

[foggy imp]

For the backfire is weapon handling better or accuracy

[junior lagoon]

this is not a named piece right? just regular backpack

[onyx sage]

yes

[strong cave]

nemesis is pretty good too

[magic pilot]

1886 is the best mmr unironically

[junior lagoon]

nemesis, white death, handbasket

1886 too? i dont think i have it

[copper yarrow]

What build are you going to use it with?

[foggy imp]

Striker, momento backpack. Mainly just right now trying to get headshots for the event

[copper yarrow]

Not a good weapon to try and get headshots with honestly

[solar sable]

just go Hotshot

[copper yarrow]

On an MG5, what would be the ideal mag attachment? 50 extra rounds or ROF or reload speed. For strikers btw

[plain crystal]

Building something for dz asked my friend for some advice but he dont really know so would this be a good build for dz? if yes ill optimize if not ill yea farm whatever i can improve

[burnt bone]

I like +50rd mag

[junior lagoon]

and what spec is this? gunner?

[solar sable]

one shot? Sharp

[junior lagoon]

yes of course

[subtle bluff]

To note we have #td2-pvp-discussions sometimes all of our PvP aren't on and they can catch up quicker there.

[plain crystal]

bet ty

[subtle bluff]

Np, pretty sure they need 1 or 2 more blue cores at least.

[brisk idol]

I want to put together a build using the new shotgun and exodus gloves, but I’m a support player for my team by supplying hollow points, but I’ve been thinking of switching it around since so many people run Saint elmos engine, any advice to what I should try putting together?

[subtle bluff]

Not as a support build..

[lost wren]

st elmo is used with red core dps

[solar sable]

I cannot see Sheriff used in any support build due to it not being support focused

[solar sable]

no idea and you're using two dmg based exotics that don't apply any team buffs

[wispy hollow]

1886 is rifle though

[north breach]

On Xbox would anyone be interested in opening there crates and gifting me the Lexington im on level 35 and still haven’t got one yet

[subtle bluff]

So many wrongs things in here....
id:browse there a LFG channel for your platform.
Get to lvl 40 it makes pointless sense to open stuff when you're 35..

[north breach]

No I meant like level 135 in the pass but I’m sorry

[hexed steppe]

did you do your textile purchase caches? like 50 levels worth

[north breach]

I only had enough for 20 levels

[hexed steppe]

rip

[north breach]

Yea 🥀

[hexed steppe]

are you utilizing projects from 4 agents , possibly saved manhunt activities?

[north breach]

Yea I turned in all my projects and everything but I used my journey missions on the bloody houndsmith outfit because I totally forgot that I could have saved it

[lost wren]

what's a good rifle determined setup, with the 1886 as well
i imagine chainkiller with 2 pc breaking point and fox's prayer? or have i lost the plot

[subtle bluff]

2 zoo and overdogs

[lost wren]

nowhere to fit chainkiller so

[subtle bluff]

Just HH Zoo works

[lost wren]

ye chainkiller doesn't change the damage cap, just how fast it stacks

i have zwia headhunter so i'm good

[subtle bluff]

I've never math it but that's what I've been using

[lost wren]

only issue is where the hell do i fit it on my builds 😭

[subtle bluff]

Using DiamondBack with some exp on it can help build HH better

[lost wren]

should give us more configs fr

[lost wren]

i did see the diamondback setup in builds hub

[magic pilot]

Still the best mmr

[hexed steppe]

always room for chainkiller

[lost wren]

if i wanted to replace overdogs maybe

[hexed steppe]

obv you swap zoo

hit top end faster

[hexed steppe]

yeah just drop the 30% amp 🤦‍♂️

[lost wren]

huh that's honestly not that bad of an idea
streamline is crazy though

[hexed steppe]

tf with these guys priorities

it front loads the damage a bit more

[lost wren]

shit maybe i just replace my hot shot build 😭

[hazy steeple]

@lost wren forgive local', they sleep in a mortar shaped bed. They're as normal as they can be.

[lost wren]

i want a mortar shaped bed fr

[hexed steppe]

if only i could headshot with mortar i wouldnt need a hh setup

[hazy steeple]

That's the dream.
Got another convert for your cult like-minded group.

[lost wren]

i should make a pve mortar setup, i have a pvp mortar setup though

[hexed steppe]

this was a direct replacement to hotshot when i made. i wanted to use both mmr and rifle. sometimes run with the traditional airaldi vigilance.

gift/prov gives a bit more first shot damage tho

[lost wren]

hot shot is just convenient because of the ammo regen

1886 is just speedy and more mobile though

[solar sable]

You gotta let go Determined

[lost wren]

never i suck at this game

[solar sable]

I also say that but ever since I dropped Determined my aim has improved a lot

I still suck so bad that I can't get to clear my first solo leggo

[subtle bluff]

The point of overdogs is to replace chainkiller to get that higher dmg off of the first HHnstack.

[hexed steppe]

or use both

whats the damage difference

chainkiller still stacks faster

[subtle bluff]

But if you do more dmg that stacks faster.
The rest I build this is because of incursion courtyard speeds with a FI buff. My first kill with diamond back gives me enough HH stacks to one shot of anything else in there.

That's around 20 mill HP elites afterwards.

Not saying your build and idea wrong by any means.

[hexed steppe]

isnt that a bit different than a determined build tho. are you kinda utilizing the crit shot/amp from diamondback that wouldnt really be applicable in normal determined setup

[subtle bluff]

Well yeah for LFG but use Flatline for speeds.

Diamondback still works for me in 4 man heroic and master.

[hexed steppe]

still, arent normal determined builds not as frontloaded for damage

[subtle bluff]

Not wrong.

[hexed steppe]

utilizing gift for example helps fronloads and leaves room for faster stacking chainkiller

[subtle bluff]

To a degree HH really depends on players knowledge and the content.

[subtle bluff]

I'll try it out later.

These are reasons I don't have defined guides yet.

[hexed steppe]

i think its important to tailor the advice for what one is trying to achieve

jmho

[solar sable]

🕵️

[subtle bluff]

I mean also give my build a try. Someone

[hexed steppe]

no its solid, i understand the concepts. i probably will try it myself since im anti determined lately anyways so only stand to gain

[solar sable]

I love hitting my headshots

[hexed steppe]

its so much more satisfying when it isnt a toe

[solar sable]

hitting heads constantly with effort and without determined is just 😩

I apologize for being explicit but I can't help the feeling

[magic pilot]

Determined sir

[hexed steppe]

determined mortar when?

[magic pilot]

I did

I brought my mmr build back briefly to try shroud but 1886 is just better

[lost wren]

i think even then shroud is just a good secondary even for the rifle determined setup

[solar sable]

when you fix this damn door

[hexed steppe]

if using breaking point you still have almost as much mmr damage as hotshot

[lost wren]

testing out the build a good bit with and without reanimated ge

[magic pilot]

I run 1886/m870 and quickstep. Don't even use reg on the rifle build

Ik it's weird

[magic pilot]

I had swapped to 2pc hotshot basically same build

[lost wren]

makes sense to me

[hexed steppe]

i like mantis a bit more than shroud if im using mmr

qol is much better

[lost wren]

mantis is 🔥

[magic pilot]

HHF i main reg and i dont want 2 reg builds

[hexed steppe]

lootcifer forbid

[lost wren]

i only brought out shroud yesterday to get the hunter mask from climax manhunt

[magic pilot]

I cleared final room of tidal today with HHF and reanimated (4 man)

Just spawned camped the doors on left side

[lost wren]

shit maybe i should just try and solo the leggo this week with 1886 reanimated lol

[lost wren]

maybe i should run chainkiller and gift idk
also i'm still quite happy with the fashion i have

[junior lagoon]

what mods are people using with lexington? i am moving from st elmo to it and magazine size is hurting me

[buoyant perch]

Striker overdog would be 3x 10% CHD mods and +20 mag targeting 58%CHC

[magic pilot]

I like chainkiller for the second shot dmg

[onyx sage]

i like determined for the determined

[buoyant perch]

For maximum determined determination

[marsh river]

anyone landed on a proper functional sheriff build?

[subtle bluff]

Doesn't main it. The bug is prevent most from running super well.

[slate wedge]

this is what i came up with, can go 2 or 3 pieces overlord for an even better aim time and spread

[marsh river]

yikes, chainkiller

i'd rather not

[eager cloak]

Hello pro gamers.
What are the best companion traits combo? I'm late to the season, just starting out.

[tawdry flare]

Real Chads Run 5.11

[marsh river]

running it with a more or less standard high end build and it seems sort of decent, but i cant tell.. it feels.. a little gimmicky

with the accuracy bug from cover and long reload, its somewhat unreliable. the uptime is questionable

it feels like one of the most versatile shotguns but still being a shotgun makes me not sure

its doing pretty serious damage though

its very hard to gauge this gun

[thorny cedar]

Question, does the scout drone provide pulse or is it just a different effect that just highlights enemies?

[marsh river]

i want to believe that virtuoso set is somewhat usable with sheriff.. theoreitcally +120% weapon damage sounds pretty fun

[slate wedge]

what’s wrong with chankiller?

[marsh river]

id rather just go for determined rifle then. far more reliable

[slate wedge]

yeah it could definitely work, just a bit annoying to play

[slate wedge]

could say that about every build

[subtle bluff]

Yes, just a Pulse.

[marsh river]

i think any variation of chainkiller build is quite annoying in groups and against certain enemy types.

having to compete against teammates to maintain stacks, and losing stack on tech and helmets is an overall frustrating experience.

its an incredibly powerful build in the right circumstance, infact totally broken, but i was looking for a more globally versatile and straight forward shotgun build utilizing the sheriff. something that "does it all".

i guess im just a bit weary of all the conditions for the various builds, i just want a brainless run and gun that is still competetive

[strong cave]

I use HeadHunter builds all the time in groups and have little issues keeping my stacks. It's scummy but if you time it just right and wait for the DPS people to near kill a target, just shoot their kill in the head and you now have a stack. Avoid enemies with helmets and you'll be making a major difference on the battlefield. I've recorded 2 hours worth of clips yesterday showcasing exactly this

Virtuoso I've done some testing with and getting those stacks takes effort that makes it not worth it

High End or hunters fury would be your best option

[marsh river]

well ive done a legendary stronghold with a high end sheriff build, in random group, and somehow ended as the top damage dealer. that is by no means a good benchmark for any build but its somewhat indicative... i guess. it works. but it doesnt feel super comfortable

im certain i would have performed better with a striker build

[strong cave]

Oh 100%, easily. Striker absolutely would. I've been seeing people glaze it up or hate on the gun. It looks cool but any other shotgun would have more versatility. Sher needs some rework if I'm being honest

[marsh river]

yeah, it has a huge issue in the mods that it uses. for example headshot damage. using any set bonus and you are saying good bye to anythign resembling crit chance/damage.

and this has been the issue since release of striker set, nothing really competes with it. its always returning to the same point.. "striker would be better"..

[thorny cedar]

so in theory, heartbreaker/flatline should proc off of it?

[marsh river]

i noticed another thing.. obliterate really doesnt stack well when using sheriff

got the feeling that sheriff is shooting slugs not pellets

[thorny cedar]

It does, and it is crazy, damn I wish I knew this before. I was getting max stacks off of like two or three prups. Might have to give it a try if I switch back to my heartbreaker build

[marsh river]

id probably just run hunters fury + thorn to satisfy my shotgun needs, sheriff aint it

[atomic turtle]

Any thoughts on this backpack drop?

[subtle bluff]

Eh, using a skill for isn't the greatest but yes it work.

[subtle bluff]

Keep and stash it.

[marsh river]

bad. it has 2/4

[atomic turtle]

That's... some conflicting advice right there, lmao

[marsh river]

a backpack with min rolls but correct in 3/4 stat types is far more valuable, because thats something you can use . just needs to optimize. this one will always be missing one to have a full 4/4

so you can use it but it will never be completely optimal for your build.

[subtle bluff]

oh I didn't read it. It's meh.

[marsh river]

additionally, backpack you typically want named talent like the gift

[atomic turtle]

Well, that depends on the build, no? I don't really need it either way, I already have an optimized Gift. Was just curious more than anything. I thought WH was good for snipers but I guess there's already better backpacks for those than this one.

[marsh river]

lets just put it this way. the correct stat type is far more valuable than the quality of the roll.

for example crit+crit both rolled at minimum is significantly more useful than crit+weapon handling at max roll. simply because you dont really use weapon handling on practically anything. and those builds that do use weapon handling very rarely, if ever, combine it with crit. they'd maybe combine with for example headshot.

then there's the talent. its not very good in itself, and the combination of the other stats makes it a big mismatch. so you're looking at 2 unwanted stats but you can only roll one of them. so your final piece will most likely be 3 out of 4 stats in the desired types. that makes it a bad piece.

[atomic turtle]

I assumed as much. I knew attribute synergy is more important than the quality. But it did lead me to wonder if a there was a niche build for this backpack, but fair point on the headshot damage. Makes sense. I've seen sniper crit builds and had thought if this backpack maybe had a use for one of those, but by the sounds of it, not so.

[marsh river]

so lets just say that this game is pretty much solved. the most optimal combinations have already been identified and tested. there is ofc some variation when there is a patch with nerfs and buffs or new stuff added, but outside of that there is an actual correct answer for "what is best".

and in that regard, there is always a combination of crit+crit, or headshot+weapon handling, etc. any cross between those two combinations can absolutely work but it would not be optimal

[atomic turtle]

I wonder if there's a rainbow build out there somewhere that people have used to do Legendary or Master just to see if it's possible. But now that I'm actually typing and thinking about this, that sounds like a kind of stupid question if you remove player skill out of the equation. I've pulled some shit out of my ass before that ended up saving Legendary runs from a wipe, so a skilled player should theoretically be able to make any build work, even if it's dog water.

[marsh river]

what do you mean by rainbow? a mix between offensive stats? of course its possible, but its effectively just giving yourself a handicap / worse overall performance for no other reason than "its funny"

and there absolutely are hybrid builds out there that work, but they are quite niche for a specific encounter or scenario.

typically a combination of red/yellow to achieve something specific.

or red/blue for tankier dps variants

[proper wave]

rainbow is more of a pvp thing

[atomic turtle]

No, like a literal rainbow build, 2 yellow, 2 red, 2 blue cores. And the attributes whatever is not the core. Might make for an interesting challenge but also pain and suffering, and sounds closer to a funny stream playthrough than anything else.

So not Hybrid builds or anything established as viable. It'd be more like a shitpost, which is why I thought "Hold on this is actually pretty stupid thinking about it now and not really meant to be done as anything other than a handicap cause game too ez."

[subtle bluff]

I have used one.

[marsh river]

yeah this type of build is definitely possible and can work, but this is leaving the predefined meta behind and making some very specific niche decisions. at this point, the reasons cant be easily explained.

i think those things are more fun when there are some crazy seasonal/event modifiers that enable something weird to function

[atomic turtle]

You mean like right now where Reanimated is kind of breaking Shroud and causing crazy double amp stacks?

[subtle bluff]

My old tech tank was that. I've used in leggo a lot. Help teach teams.

[marsh river]

like a fully red eclipse protocol build in the previous season with free fire spread was pretty dope

[strong cave]

The event is boosting damage itself so likely what's going on is it's being amplified after the damage has been boosted by the event

I'm keeping it simple on purpose. I'm not nerd enough to fully calculate all of it plus idk what damage the event is pooling into

[atomic turtle]

Speaking of builds, has anyone found a way to kill the boss at the start of the Mutiny Climax that doesn't involve using Turmoil?

Seems kind of silly and dumb of the Devs to lock a Hunter fight behind some knee pads that not everyone will have access to.

[strong cave]

Negotiator's Dilemma 1 shot tricks would work I'd assume

[atomic turtle]

I'm aware. The damage calculations can get pretty wild, and the amount can easily exceed crazy numbers from stacking enough buffs.

The gentleman who was running it had told be they were hitting 120M headshots usually, but would get spikes of 240M every other 3 kills or so.

[strong cave]

Sounds right based off my experiences too. I wasn't using shroud, I was using Nemesis. Saw upwards of 200m hits

[strong cave]

If I were to build for Sher, I'd probably do your bare basic high end setup with bloodsucker and Intimidate. Or use memento somehow. Hunters fury would be too crit starved and if I'm going headshot I'd rather just run HHF or a simple HH MMR/Rifle/Pistol setup. Just gets the job done better, easier to use, and not a headache. Oh, and striker. Can't forget striker LOL

My problem is I prefer Tinkerer on shotgun setups and taking Brazen + Pummel means I completely remove the need to reload. Sher from what I hear has abysmal reload speeds

[marsh river]

yeah this is all the things i said basically, you are echoing my sentiments exactly lol.

but opportunistic on backpack is quite nice, rather than bloodsucker. obliterate is not a super duper , might use glass cannon or unbreakable, depending. but all in all i think im not gonna play the sheriff at all

[marsh river]

and yes the reload speeds is a huge bummer, not to mention a massive dampener on overall output

if it was my decision, i think the concept of removing fall off and that for the sheriff is a very fun concept. it enables the shotgun to be used in a more natural way. but putting it as an exotic talent on one gun specific, was a big mistake.

the sheriff should have been something entirely else, and that range perk should be an exotic armour piece or a gear set bonus. that way you could use a way more interesting variety of builds. but this way, with the sheriff.. its a big of a let down especially when there was such a big potential for more

[atomic turtle]

By the way, what's the general sentiment toward Blacklisters? The way I see it right now, it's just Overdogs without the constraint of Weakest Link or Glass Canon that makes a single enemy roided out.

[marsh river]

i generally think that exotic weapons is a mistake, its too limiting. they should all be armour perks instead to promote build diversity

[strong cave]

Blacklisters give 20% to everything but one target. ODogs, pick your specific targets and you'll have 30% nearly all the time

[strong cave]

Opportunistic is a decent one to use too. I choose Intim over Oblit mainly because pellets don't stack Oblit, it only counts 1 of the 8 pellets. So Intim was a no brainer choice

Plus intim's talent is wrong and there's something going on that gives more damage than it should

[marsh river]

ive never been a fan of intimidate, it requires too reckless playstyle

i dont like to be close at all

[strong cave]

On a good setup, especially with shotguns killing things super quickly with 1-3 shots, it's hard to lose that bonus armor. It requires a John wick playstyle

It's like if you ran hunters fury/striker with a few blues and memento and a shield. Shotgun would work the same way

[atomic turtle]

Sacrifice already does this at the expense of 60% increased received damage. They both have trade offs but if you successfully manage either trade-off, it doesn't really feel necessary at all. Blacklisters to me, feels like an item that encroaches on already existing territory and I can't find much use for it, same with Overdogs.

That said, I don't have enough insight with either and I haven't used either nearly enough to formulate a proper stance on it. So I'm kind of hoping someone here might enlighten me a bit. Maybe you guys can tell me how either might fit into a build Sacrifice otherwise wouldn't.

[strong cave]

30% from Sacrifice and 30% from ODogs = 60% amp

ODogs is lowest tier enemy, check the pins in this channel. Numerous of our testers here that create guides for the community has posted an ODogs guide on who to target first with the gloves

If you did blacklisters, God forbid you get shot by the marked target. That's 6060% incoming amp damage (sacrifice included)

#td2-build-advice message

Read from the top down. That's who you'll prioritize targeting

[atomic turtle]

I also want to preface this by saying that I'm not against Blacklisters or Overdogs. It's just that as someone who's played with sacrifice for years, and learned to play around it's weakness since basically the start, I have a hard time understanding the necessity for either the kneepads or the gloves, mainly because I'm already used to having 30% amped damage without feeling like I'm being punished for it in any way.

But thanks for the info, I'll check out the guide and look into the build.

[hoary atlas]

Finally got Sheriff

But mask not yet

[strong cave]

All I can say is, try ODogs and focus the low tier targets first. The damage is hard to put down once you get used to dealing that kind of damage

[subtle bluff]

Btw it's in the pinned messages now.

[strong cave]

Yup I linked it to him from the pins 💯

[fresh fox]

more than 60% amp

since they are both amps they are their own multipliers

100 (base damage) x 1.3 (glass) x 1.3 (overdogs) = 169

so its actually 69% total increase since the two amps multiply into eachother or smth

idk how to word it but thats the math

[toxic frigate]

Is sheriff just undertuned or is it just straight ass

[fresh fox]

the reload speed feels so slow i want to like it though

[toxic frigate]

It do look cool tho

[fresh fox]

also the accuracy buff not working in cover/having to wait for the bloom to settle makes it feel weird to use at sometimes

on paper though its really good damage wise iirc

[toxic frigate]

I just doesn't like how it doesn't hit well at punching bags

😔

[strong cave]

Close enough

Damn 💀 I got auto modded. Anyways yeah idrc for the exact numbers. I just know they both do good damage lol

[fresh fox]

umm sure

still its good to be informed on how it truly works

[strong cave]

Was a good lesson that I do thank

I find it pretty ridiculous that we got to go through extensive testing just to make sure that we're getting our numbers right and understanding how our gear works. Especially when a good number of the things in this game is wrong to begin with

[delicate kite]

If Im planning to do my first build that's not Striker, going with Refractor to try a skill build, is there any exotic/named pieces to look out for? Atm I run Mask, Holster, Chest and Backpack for Refractor and normal yellow on knees and hands (whatever had skill duration, haste or damage atm) so Ive got plenty of wiggle room for suggestions

[vivid shard]

waveform is good(exotic holster)

[delicate kite]

Never even heard of it, whats its deal?

[vivid shard]

alternating skill damage boost between your two skills

[vivid shard]

what skills do you like running

I'd recommend the mortar turret and striker drone

[delicate kite]

So strike drone and the machine gun turret, haven't messed with Mortar turret yet. Planning for typical Technician build for free Skill Tier to give another armor core

[half cosmos]

question about overdogs

when it says damage to in tier say there is hunter support proxy it will do more damage to proxy and not to other till its alive yes?

now what if there is a support and engineer will it do same to both or more to enginer than support as enginer is 2nd name in tier 2

[onyx sage]

yes to first question

no to second, if they're both in the same tier and there are no enemies in lower tier they both receive the same damage amp

[half cosmos]

so just to clarify it does not care for enemy hp bar like yello red purple?

and does it get affected by negotiator tags?

[burnt bone]

@devout iris one of these?

I’ve been interested in building a pfe set 👀

[devout iris]

not those

[devout iris]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LPnA18PDgGg_dEbNI1kZVTVIMGXNHQS_

just type PFE in the search bar and youll see what im running here

and dont worry this is just ikia's build collection

[burnt bone]

;-;

[devout iris]

fourth one is what i run the 1.15

[burnt bone]

Gotcha gotcha thanks

[devout iris]

since you need both pointman and chill out gear set's for this as well as a third gila piece and a belstone gear item along with 2 improv gear item's like either improvised kneepads, holster or gloves

[onyx sage]

color does not matter at all

[elder flare]

Can anyone recommend a good St. Elmo’s build? I’m trying to find a high dmg build, but whenever I search up builds, I either get high mag capacity builds that don’t hit for much or builds from 2 years ago and I’m not really sure if they work anymore.

[lost wren]

i think a good striker setup should be good

although that’s the bog standard ar setup most use for pve

[burnt bone]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?usp=drivesdk

This is the standard striker setup

[lost wren]

ye pretty much

[elder flare]

Ooo! Thank you two🙏 Way more in depth than any videos go.

[burnt bone]

Yaaa

[lost wren]

most yters aren’t very great

[burnt bone]

Have you looked at the spreadsheet yet, it has guides on most of the popular/strong builds

It’s pinned to this channel

[elder flare]

Oh nah I haven’t. I only just joined the server. My friend and I stopped playing for a year or two and have only come back to the game this month.

Didn’t really know people went as far as making spreadsheets.

[burnt bone]

I just started playing again for the first time since launch pretty much, there’s a very dedicated community haha

Who’ve put together lots of resources for newer players

[lost wren]

i’m much newer to this game than most, never been around for the division 1 days but i think i started this game in 2024

yeah late 2024 i’m a newgen lol

[smoky latch]

Anyone tested some builds with the Sheriff shotgun that are decent? Haven't had much time lately

[lost wren]

i’ve heard it’s alright but there’s an accuracy bug that’s just annoying

[smoky latch]

Yeah the already known PTS bug was not fixed, heard of it

[dreamy valve]

Anyone still use smart cover?

[lost wren]

still wondering which to run for rifle headhunter

[meager fog]

Haven't used it for a while, but it's great for groups

[dreamy valve]

Im going to start using it again, for the new climax mission

[slate wedge]

i am using the right one, should be more damage

[lost wren]

gotcha, thanks

[subtle bluff]

Both work. One just has a higher dmg cap.

[lost wren]

i assume the one with 2 zwia because of the rifle damage

epico
see i’m learning i think

[onyx sage]

hi learning i think

[burnt bone]

No that’s not his name silly

[onyx sage]

but he said it...

[burnt bone]

His name is Much Newer To The Game Than Most

[clever onyx]

My PFE is Catharis, Hunter Killer Chest, Matador Backpack, and Improvised Kneepads, Holster, and Gloves. All rolled crit. Adrenaline Rush gives you bonus armor, and the bonus armor gives you weapon damage from the Intimidate talent.

[lost wren]

✅

[burnt bone]

Interesting 🤔

What cores are you using

[clever onyx]

All armor and all PFE mods and Survivalist specialization. i'm sitting at 80% PFE and can literally stand in a crowd of 5 enemies and take basically no damage. Catharis will drop a healing cloud when I do and it heals you right up. Scorpio and Lexington w/ optimist.

[velvet beacon]

Lol all full blue builds are useless until u play as support

Maybe in pvp make difference but in pve u need to kill fast thats all

[clever onyx]

The dude was asking for a PFE build...I don't see anywhere where I said this is what I run all the time.

[velvet beacon]

I know, but blue cores make gameplay super slow

Until u go armor regen builds

[subtle bluff]

But also if you read the context it wasn't him asking. He was showing where to find them.

[velvet beacon]

Perfect PFE mods are rare do find

[clever onyx]

Indeed. I've been playing off and on since day 1 and still haven't seen one.

[subtle bluff]

The rarest thing in the game.

[velvet beacon]

Dps and rpm matters only in this game, tanks are realy decent sadly

[subtle bluff]

There’s a degree to that. “Tanking” in the traditional sense is a thread holder which we can’t do in div well. Support tanking if a different matter.

[velvet beacon]

Exacly

I need do manhunt today for sherrif 😁, wondering if it is nice, atm bittersweet my fav

[subtle bluff]

This climax is the easiest out of all of them.

[velvet beacon]

Yeah but im lack of time to do last days 🤣

[subtle bluff]

Ad wise.

[copper yarrow]

Is there any real noticeable difference between MG5 and infantry MG5

[smoky latch]

Similar weapon archetypes usually have a small difference in stability or accuracy, not much at all

[velvet beacon]

And small difference on base dmg

[copper yarrow]

I like infantry one cause it has an extra mod slot too

[strong cave]

2 Walker would be fine (chainkiller + wh bag)

DtA is enemy dependent but still is a good 3rd option

[lost wren]

fair ye, i think i’ll just stick with two zwia because i have it

[lost wren]

i need to just get into farming materials to optimize my stuff

[cloud sluice]

Trying to perfect my Tank Tempest build, What would be the best mod to boost repairs, Repair skills or Incoming repairs? 🤔 Also it's a bit OTT but I'm already running 4 piece Bullwerk with the Forge

[subtle bluff]

"Prefect" a tank build...

Neither skill are useful for FB build.

Forge is also pretty bad for shield.

You'd think it's good but it's give Very lil to it.

[smoky latch]

I think Motherly Love could be better than Forge?

In terms of gains for shield hp

But yeah, a Tempest tank build is a little "oof"

[cloud sluice]

Sometimes I just need to chill and be ultra survivable, Other times I love to run and gun but it can be quite draining playstyle after a long week at work tbh 😂 So what mods would boost the shield and work well with FB? 🤔

Also I'll craft the Motherly love thanks 👍

[subtle bluff]

Shield Health
Imo playing with Tempest is more draining to me.

with this GE just go HSD RED and m1a

[smoky latch]

Wrong channel

[cloud sluice]

Ok thanks again 👍

[serene flare]

question: can the bottom attributes for Exotics get rerolled if you craft an exotic again?

[hexed steppe]

reconfig on crafting bench iirc

yes

[serene flare]

tyty, I thought I would be stuck with health damage on my Capacitor lol

[hexed steppe]

nope, but it will be a new weapon when you do it, just make sure to re-favorite the weapon when complete and youll need to resave it into your loadouts

[strong cave]

Who remembers when they used to not be reconfigured 3rd attributes? 🙋

[hexed steppe]

it will preserve expertise upgrades , before you ask

we need a mortar based gearset that unlocks the napalm turret

[last schooner]

are all variants of SASG the same?

stat wise.

huntsman > FAMAS w/ Killer?

[gentle lichen]

No

[solar sable]

I joined on 2024 so... that was already fixed

wait it's been two years already?! goddamn!