td2-build-advice

[pastel basin]

Yeah true true, but idk what was happening with them, they had FI, my perfect overwatch buff too and they were still failing

[subtle bluff]

We’d need a clip

Next time trying to get a clip for us then we can really figure it out.

[pastel basin]

They didn’t have sledgehammer though

[pastel basin]

Ofc ofc, next time it happens

[subtle bluff]

Wurd.. it’s not hard for anyone to sledge..

I remember like 4 months ago like the whole rest of the raid sledge… It was impossible for us to take shot

All the screen shake

[pastel basin]

I don’t think it’s because #1the healer wasn’t applying debuffs for buddy or lucy + no sledge, so that’s like 40% less damage I think?

You can apply debuff to buddy and lucy right?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[subtle bluff]

A FI player has no excuses not to sledge

[pastel basin]

Mb 30% less

Cause sledge plus the survivalist perk thing

[subtle bluff]

Ya it’s huge.

[pastel basin]

Omfg

And opportunist, wtf was our healer actually doing

[subtle bluff]

It’s more important that overwatch

Yuppers

[pastel basin]

I sadly cannot get the bookbag 😔

[strong cave]

love how when I go to go back to using glass in the open world, ALL my control points suddenly have f---- convoys coming and going. where was this a damn week ago when I NEEDED convoys????

[pastel basin]

It’s a pain bruh

[strong cave]

hate it when i get sandwiched out of nowhere

[pastel basin]

Ykw, ima grind the gift bookbag first then the perfect Habsburg bookbag

[subtle bluff]

TBH you should be fine on your build. It’s the buffs if they were all missing that’s a more of an issues

[pastel basin]

And btw, you don’t need glass cannon for this build right?

[subtle bluff]

For drones?

[pastel basin]

For jammer, you could run Overwatch or even perfect Overwatch?

[hazy steeple]

Wait, did you take that with a phone?

[pastel basin]

Yeah, idk how to do it on my laptop

Well I do, but it’s easier on my phone

[subtle bluff]

Win + shift + S (snipping tool)

[hazy steeple]

Windows has "snipping tool" built in, easiest one to use for discord.

and you can copy+paste straight into this channel.

[pastel basin]

Let me try 👀

Now my discord doesn’t want to work on my laptop…

[subtle bluff]

lol that’d be a thing

[pastel basin]

But yeah, you wouldn’t need all that extra damage for drones right? You could run something else to buff the rest of your team?

[subtle bluff]

Dunno never done it.

[pastel basin]

Is there any other way of getting the ferocious calm than just waiting until the vender comes?

[hazy steeple]

@pastel basin Named Item Caches, DZ/conflict, and the blueprint can be obtained from Reconstructed Caches via Retaliation/Descent.

[pastel basin]

You can get reconstructed caches from retaliation?

[amber crater]

the ongoing Shepherd event gives Reconstructed caches

[pastel basin]

👀

No one is ever calling for backup thooo

[hazy steeple]

@pastel basin You use the faction resources to craft them in the Exotics section of the menu, but you have to buy the blueprint for it from Inaya first.

"broken shd watches" are what's needed. 7 per cache.

[amber crater]

yes, they do, I'd suggest to start matchmaking: Random Call for Backup

[hazy steeple]

Depending on your Region, the calls can be....infrequent.

Just to end this to get us back on topic: a VPN is a good investment for div2.Just don't use a free one.

[pastel basin]

Very

I spent like 1 hour yesterday watching a movie while waiting for one and never got it

Almost the whole movie honestly, and then I gave up

Does the Lincoln memorial method still work? Cause I remember when me and my friends did that to get our shepherd ranks on console

[hazy steeple]

I'm just going to cut this off here and suggest you move over to #ask-td2-community

[pastel basin]

But you’re right here already 🫩

[hazy steeple]

Gotta go do the paying job now, can't freelance all day :p

[stone python]

Is Hotshot gear set good?

got a couple of drops from Lincoln memorial

[sly sand]

Hello all. I would like some help on a Tank Build. A couple things, (1) I am handicap, limited me to one hand. So my aiming is not great. (2) I cannot do Dark Zone (PvP) so if a piece of gear can only be found there, I wont be able to get it. Thank you.

[solar sable]

yes, check the spreadsheet

[astral kraken]

Are you using a controller or mouse/keyboard?

[sly sand]

Controller

[astral kraken]

Do you play solo or with a group?

[sly sand]

Sometimes with friends but mainly solo because they have lives and I do not lol

[astral kraken]

And you're looking for a tank build because you want a better chance to survive?

Or are you trying to do something specific?

Oh also what difficulty do you play? Challenging? Heroic?

[sly sand]

So I already have a "Skill build" (1) turret/drone (2) scanner/cluster bombs. I just learned how to customize my controller so I can move, aim, and shoot (Yes with one hand) so I thought I try something different rather than just hiding all the time.

[astral kraken]

Got it thanks. That info helps. And the difficulty?

[sly sand]

By myself I can do challenging. In a group I can do heroic

[astral kraken]

Thinking. Tank isn't really going to help because the enemies will cut you down fast. For example even if you have a big shield one explosion will destroy it in one shot. And if you run all blue cores your damage will be so low that eventually they'll get you.

[vivid axle]

do we like chc/chd or wh/hsd tempest

[astral kraken]

Do you think you can aim a shotgun? You just have to aim for the body.

[sly sand]

That looking like a DPS type build

[vivid axle]

not reading up but if youre playing with one hand a Hardwired build is litereally all you need

[vivid axle]

well yes

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say chc/chd as tempest isn't going to hsd much

[astral kraken]

They already have one. And a skill build. They want to try something that doesn't involve sitting in cover.

[vivid axle]

im trying both. I think having perfect GC and Punch Drunk and Eagles Grasp might make hsd/wh be ok

[astral kraken]

you're gonna die in like 2 seconds lol

[vivid axle]

HF with backpack chainkiller and a badger tuff with wh/hsd

[cerulean smelt]

try it all you want to try and do a HSD tempest but i can assure it's not goign to be that great

[vivid axle]

i tried the critical one its fine it can clear content

not super fun to play tho]

[strong cave]

temptest has a crit mod. its better for crits as opposed to headshots. if youre going headshot just run HHF or some sort of IA headshot build. which looks like this:

mixing up HSD on a crit weapon isnt gonna do you any good. considering the damage for tempest is utter shit without other damage talents

[vivid axle]

chainkiller on a auto weapon

[strong cave]

i never said use chainkiller on an automatic weapon 🤦 lets use our brains here

[vivid axle]

thats the build you literally just sent

[cerulean smelt]

try it with eagle bearer if you managed to get one and you'll realize it's not that great for hsd

[sly sand]

Remember, I did say my aiming is not great. Headshots would be hard for me.

[astral kraken]

Do you think you can aim a shotgun? You just have to aim for the body.

[vivid axle]

I have also used chainkiller with bighorn on a funky build so it dos kinda work

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, the gun is Harvest which has HSD in it....

[strong cave]

yes and im telling you right here right now that going HSD on tempest is pure trash. youre better off taking regulus for headshots, or harvest, which my build clearly shows..... 🤦‍♂️

build advice channel really has gone downhill

[vivid axle]

i am not looking for the best build. I am looking for interesting ways to use the tempest

[cerulean smelt]

then why ask us whether chc/chd or hsd/wh?

[strong cave]

youll spend more time kissing the ground going the HSD route. just saying

[vivid axle]

I have tried every build you have ever thought of i do not need "uhh just use determined and headhunter"

[sly sand]

I can use a shotgun

[vivid axle]

maybe someone else has tried off meta things

[cerulean smelt]

a guy named car can tell you

[strong cave]

come to build advice with a question, get an answer, doesnt like the answer, argues about the answer... crazy

[astral kraken]

iKia has a couple tempest builds. I've used both and they're good. Not amazing but I think it's as solid as you're going to get:
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1FK5UVrVAf6figTcEyg9EhxmuX4mL--7eLxyr-QP1UpM/edit
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/18v_nO_Y1yQxQlSWNiIyf5j02rV0C4VKR_04ewNy1Duk/edit

[vivid axle]

"use an established one shot build instead" is not an answer

[strong cave]

yeah ask car, he knows all about off meta builds. hes the one youll definitely wanna listen to

[cerulean smelt]

if you don't like the answers you get don't ask?

[strong cave]

it is tho bc ill have the content cleared 4x as fast as you can secure 1 kill with tempest hsd

[vivid axle]

acting like the game isnt solved and you are total geniuses for telling people to use the super off meta combo of determined and headhunter

[vivid axle]

wanna race? ill do a money match

[astral kraken]

I have an idea. One min.

[strong cave]

if you wanna play off meta, play off meta 🤷‍♀️ but dont come to build advice asking for advice and not take what youre told at face value

[vivid axle]

any mission you want ill use HSD tempest and clear it as fast or faster

[sly sand]

I'm the one asking for a tank build but I also mentioned I can't do PVP to get gear and I play with one hand

[strong cave]

and I have nothing to prove to you. youre the one taking HSD tempest and also asking for advice

[vivid axle]

exactly. stick to strikers and elmo you do not have a creative heart

[cerulean smelt]

you and another player here would get along fine as you both act the same way.
wanna duo this mode with me to prove a point

[strong cave]

tank builds in division 2 are useless. theres no such thing as tanking. tanking is the exact same as having high armor and absorbing bullets and dealing 0 damage

[strong cave]

ez money, just saying

[vivid axle]

all this whining nobody wants to money match

[astral kraken]

@strong cave What's the maximum blue cores you can put on a shotty HF build for it to stay potent? Let's say easy to play in challenging and doable in heroic with a group. This is for the guy above that can only play w/ one hand and is using a controller. I'm thinking HF with blues and memento... and... some kinda shotty.

[cerulean smelt]

get a job or get a promotion if you need money.....

[strong cave]

the only one crying here is you over build advice

[vivid axle]

your entire circlejerk is up my ass about an off meta build

[strong cave]

struck a nerve lol

[vivid axle]

and none of you are willing to back it up

[cerulean smelt]

again, you're here askign a question we gave you an answer. you just don't like that answer for obvious reasons

[strong cave]

no because we know its terrible 🤷 thats why we are all telling you NOT to go hsd

[vivid axle]

mad corny. do you enjoy circlejerking what basically is a dead game?

[solar sable]

wasn't it 3/4? or viceversa

[strong cave]

why are you playing it then if its so dead

[cerulean smelt]

so why are you here?

[sly sand]

I am sorry I asked for a Tank build, I didn't think people would argue about it.

[strong cave]

leave the server , do us a favor

[astral kraken]

@strong cave help meeee

[strong cave]

nah youre good. I get disabilities and all that. the problem is that tanking just sucks

[vivid axle]

just listen to the circlejerking clowns and build strikers and elmo thats the peak of what they can come up with

[strong cave]

id say 3 cores hunters fury rolled blue. 4 if a must

[astral kraken]

They're not arguing about your tank build. Someone ate too many cheetos. Ignore it.

[vivid axle]

you need 0 blue cores

[strong cave]

you need a new hobby

[astral kraken]

Didn't ask you. Go run your bulwark glass cannon.

[cerulean smelt]

i'ts not you, it's cheetoeater with their orange fingers 😹

[solar sable]

shut up if you're not adding something useful, alright?

[sly sand]

Can you pm a strike build that does not require me getting pieces in the dark zone?

[vivid axle]

imagine thinking you need blue cores on a HF build

[strong cave]

is that a PFE mod I see? 😂

[astral kraken]

I'll DM you.

[solar sable]

good lord wth happened here

[vivid axle]

39% PFE does more resistance than any amount of blue cores

[strong cave]

its kinda funny youre complaining about meta builds yet HHF is meta...

[cerulean smelt]

orange man wants to argue about their build idea and wants to continue being a troll to other people

[vivid axle]

HHF spas 12 is meta?

[strong cave]

yes 🤦‍♂️

[vivid axle]

literally it isnt

[solar sable]

hhf itself is meta

[cerulean smelt]

would you look at that in the pinned sheets of meta builds.....

[strong cave]

its all good, stop answering. let him figure it out

[vivid axle]

huh wonder where that build came from...

[cerulean smelt]

in this channel in the pins......

[strong cave]

its fine guys let him run the off meta stuff 👍 remember guys, creativity is more important than being efficient

with that being said, sys corr DH anyone?

creative raid 💯

[strong cave]

@subtle bluff it all started here btw since I know youre likely confused

[cerulean smelt]

in case you don't believe me

[solar sable]

cof cof wanna friend? cof cof

[strong cave]

if you still need help, a few of us are brainstorming a good build for you 💯

[vivid axle]

turns out HSD tempest is too wiley

thought it might be like merc or cham where it basically laser beams but alas

[strong cave]

wow, we learned? 🤯

[cerulean smelt]

i've tried it with Visionario and eagle's grasp but it's got too much recoil to really keep it in one spot when firing

[vivid axle]

you didnt know because you would never have tried to build it

[strong cave]

we tried to tell you 🤣 but yk were just a circlejerk

[cerulean smelt]

if you can burst fire then it'd probably be fine honestly

[vivid axle]

i did try 93r build with both HSD and CHC/D when IA came out

[strong cave]

its common knowledge not to mix HSD and crits together. the exception to that is Bighorn but even thats niche. its 1 or the other. this is why youll never see hybrid builds be part of the meta or be recommended at all 😂

[vivid axle]

thats why i thought tempest might be interesting with HSD

[vivid axle]

holy shit youre still posting give it a rest

[strong cave]

dont fight next time when advice is given to you 👍

[vivid axle]

dont you have a box of your own farts to huff? you've contributed nothing of value so might as well go back to that

[cerulean smelt]

i forget what other guns i've tried that's pretty unwieldly but there are others like tempest. you hold the trigger down you fire all over 😹

[subtle bluff]

Fight?

[vivid axle]

merc was like that and it seems like max WH fixes that idk what the difference is

i was going to try tempest with the range legionary mask or whatever it is but it sucks even at mid range so

[cerulean smelt]

that'd be the Visionario

[vivid axle]

ya thats the one i use on every other pistol build

[subtle bluff]

I skimmed over some interesting things said here..

Did I see soemthing challenging someone with Tempest?

[vivid axle]

sure i will

[cerulean smelt]

maybe that 3 pc would make it more wieldy?

[vivid axle]

i am not in love with my current chc/d but its perfectly fine and fast

[cerulean smelt]

oh nm, thought visionario and eagle's grasp were the same brand

[vivid axle]

tried 3pc leg doesnt make a noticable difference for some reason

[strong cave]

yeah, they did, they wanted to wager money to a race using HSD temptest against this 😂 I so shouldve taken the challenge. wouldve been the easiest money steal of my life 😂 coulda bought myself a happy meal from mcdonalds 😂

[gentle lichen]

you missed your shot at greatness

[vivid axle]

you were too scared you could have accepted and you didnt

[cerulean smelt]

3 Zwia (rifle brand) has 30% handling

[strong cave]

I'm not a politician, i dont steal from the poor 😂

[vivid axle]

yes i tried zoos and legs and it really isnt noticable

[vivid axle]

"my le epic cookie cutter reddit build is way better than a theorycraft i am so cool and awesome" god damn dude that is really sad if thats a win you need

[strong cave]

they still typing? all I see is blanks 😂

[cerulean smelt]

what about a hotshot + Zwia + Ninja backpack for 60% handling?

[vivid axle]

ninja 🤮

[subtle bluff]

I mean sounds like someone isn't using all there cells. When quickstep is here not many speedrun WR aren't being used with out it.

[astral kraken]

you know what i like this guy now

this was all a big misunderstanding

[vivid axle]

only ninja ive ever used is 2pc sticker 3pc umbra ninja to spam ROF

[strong cave]

true 😂

[vivid axle]

"there"

[cerulean smelt]

now add salvo to that next season (> <)

[subtle bluff]

English isn't my strong suit.

[strong cave]

chow is foreign asf, just like the game developers are

[cerulean smelt]

ok, so 2 or 3 hotshot, then whatever 3 pieces. would give you 60% handling, at lest 30% hsd

[vivid axle]

ninja can make merc go brr

[astral kraken]

chow is from mars, he's talking to us from outer space

[subtle bluff]

Fair

[cerulean smelt]

13% rof is going to be crazy right?!

[cerulean smelt]

don't you need to be out of cover to get the rof buff though?

[blissful sphinx]

just coming back to the game, is there anything i should swap on this?

[solar sable]

acs 12 with brazen and chef's kiss

[cerulean smelt]

looks good, maybe optimize?

[blissful sphinx]

i think that was what i was doing as im so poor on optimisation rss lol

[astral kraken]

• smg-9 or vector 9mm. more dmg.
• quickstep pistol. you dont need determined. or use finisher on your magnum.
• swap to a grupo mask if there are 2+ coyotes in the group.
• otherwise you're golden

[cerulean smelt]

that's considering they came back for halloween to get the quickstep and they add it to the goblin loot pool

[blissful sphinx]

alright thanks

[astral kraken]

also keep an eye out for the next season. the new brand set (unit alloy) might be the new standard for setups like yours. still not 100% on that but check in again soon.

[cerulean smelt]

thought i was mistaken but yeah umbra rof buff only goes when you leave cover

[strong cave]

Imagine it didn't. Smart cover + umbra pvp = broken

[cerulean smelt]

i can imagine

[subtle bluff]

I had a really really old build I did more merciless

[cerulean smelt]

oh? 🤔

[subtle bluff]

It used NBB tho.. so I never mention it

I used it in CD for exp grinding

[solar sable]

chow's division lore is dark

[subtle bluff]

😶‍🌫️

[cerulean smelt]

if i showed you how i use merciless you'd probably have an Anuerism

[subtle bluff]

I’d hate the recoil of merciless is my issue

[strong cave]

3 zwi fixes that 💯

[silent storm]

I use Merciless on my Tipping Scales build and it wrecks

[solar sable]

does it beat your bakers dozen tho

[silent storm]

Handedly

The explosion DMG scales with the Tipping Scales stacks

[subtle bluff]

I forget how merciless reads.

[silent storm]

At 75 stacks you;re hitting over 16 mil explosions every 7 rounds

[subtle bluff]

IDK about it wrecking but I’d assume it’d work alright. It’s needs more RPM. Next season it’ll be interesting.

DPS numbers say that not much otherwise. It’s a cool number.

[silent storm]

It's right in the sweet spot where it doesn't cause loss of stacks the thing about it is you have to really know how to use it and adjust your trigger finger accordingly

[subtle bluff]

That’s not what I was going against…

The RPM slow where it doesn’t really matter for it. Actually that statement is more confusing..

[silent storm]

IDK, the way I use it I could fire it faster but then I lose some accuracy in the process, so a RoF boost I don't think would matter much to me. The flow of firing it though because of the binary trigger really makes it a unique weapon to use

Do we buy this just for posterity sake?

Is there actually a use for it or is it a Reddit thing that doesn't really matter in game?

[pastel basin]

100%

Which build should I make for IH? Like does it really matter? I never really ran tank. But which would be the best for final encounter?

[silent storm]

Can I ask what those builds actually do?

[pastel basin]

I pretty much have all the pieces for each build except for the foundry one and the improvised gloves

[pastel basin]

Tank for iron horse I guess

On 4th encounter primarily

[silent storm]

How does it hold agro?

[pastel basin]

Uhhhhhh, idk

I would have to figure out how to play this role next time I do ih

I usually just do ad clear or sniper HH, mostly just the braindead roles in that raid

[vernal tusk]

Whats the difference fast hands, unwavering?

[silent storm]

That's one thing I still don't fully understand in this game. In Division 1 you could control agro with weapon mods and first shot mechanics. In this game I find that even if I am the last to fire I will pull agro simply because I am 6 red core

[pastel basin]

Not even just that, every single time in most of my teams (mainly console) I felt as if I was the only one getting shot at because I was the only one with a fully expertise weapons and maxed out mods/ build

Tanking in an actual regular mission isn’t even doing anything for the team because the enemies would still should at them no matter if you’re legit breathing down there necks

It makes no sense

Well it does but it also removes the ability of tanking in like the main parts of the game

[silent storm]

Finally got around to maxing this so mark this one down as completed. Now what builds are still good for this piece?

[cerulean smelt]

it's been nerfed to the ground

[silent storm]

Shotgun Hunter's Fury still good with it?

[pastel basin]

REALLY?

Is it no longer viable in PvP?

[cerulean smelt]

before nerf, you got bonus armor you got the damage immediately
after nerf, the bonus goes up slowly i believe

[silent storm]

10 seconds to maxz

[pastel basin]

…

Bruh, it was legit like 2 seconds before

[cerulean smelt]

i don't pvp, would have to get @strong cave death opinion on it

[pastel basin]

It felt like 2 seconds at least

[silent storm]

With the GR Matador that just dropped I pulled it out and was thinking Hunter's Fury with Matador and Hunter-Killer Shotgun build

We still didn't get the vet rewards?

[subtle bluff]

One builds stacks for quicker reload speed.
Another is 5s weapon handing buff that only procs when you switch to it, can stay active if getting a kill

[cerulean smelt]

#division-tweets message

i've seen too many youtube videos of "undetected hacks" and figured no point in pvping if stuff like that exists

[silent storm]

With you on that, PvP in this game is just for some caches and I don't take it too seriously

[strong cave]

It still has a place in pvp. Only on Regen bighorn builds. But your attributes needs to be Hazpro + HSD with armor and the backpack needs to be Matador

[silent storm]

So craft a H-K with HazPro and HSD for PvP and Bighorn?

[strong cave]

You could do Matador + Hunter Killer with 4 PCs striker and camp small spaces with Chatterbox

You'd get more out of Sokolov Intim on that type of build tho

[strong cave]

Correct. If you're extra spicy you can make all attributes Regen + Hazpro since bighorn is already broken enough

I strongly advise people away from PVP right now. It's in a terrible spot

[silent storm]

DO you regen bonus armor?

[strong cave]

It stays refreshed as long as you keep close and strafe

But the bonus armor isn't effected by the Regen, no

[silent storm]

Yeah I know nothing about PvP in this game lol

[cerulean smelt]

i've read things. mostly people here "ban cheaters!" or if you watch their streams you'll see endless chanting of that

[strong cave]

It's a hard community to get into. The playerbase never left the game and they abuse the mechanics badly. You can't play fun builds anymore, it's all Umbra / Regen / Regulus / Status

[silent storm]

I can sit in the back and drop mortars though so that works sometimes

[strong cave]

DZ is either full of cheats and their pets, or completely dead

Conflict is the same thing. Experiencing a cheater or a full clan is a coin toss each game

Depending on time of day, it's guaranteed

[cerulean smelt]

how about a clan of cheaters?

[strong cave]

They exist too

[silent storm]

Saddens me how badly Ubi dropped the ball with cheats in The Division. It's been a problem since open beta of Div1 and nothing has changed

[strong cave]

WOW and ROG are known for it

WOW Being Factor-WOW and ROG being Rogless

[silent storm]

I am ROG but that's because I named my clan Rogue Drones

[strong cave]

Saddens me they still don't have a damn pvp lead yet. But they're starting div 3 💀

[cerulean smelt]

i don't recall running into cheating problems earlier. this whole cheating thing is fairly recent to me anyways. maybe i've just been lucky

[silent storm]

oh no, it's always been in The Division

[strong cave]

The issues didn't get worse until newer players started showing up and the new updates brought older players back

Those who cheat never left the game either

[cerulean smelt]

probably since season 9?

[silent storm]

Since Div1

[cerulean smelt]

yes, you stated that already....

[strong cave]

Give or take last year and a half we started seeing a drastic uprise in it. Cheating is no longer a rare thing, it's now evolved into a whole business

[pastel basin]

What’s the fun in cheating bruh

[cerulean smelt]

you add competition to things it's going to be there

[strong cave]

Depends on what you're cheating in. PvP games, it's not fun. Say like GTA V, for money and stuff and gifting people free junk, it's worth it

[silent storm]

only if you allow it

[cerulean smelt]

no pretty sure most competitive games always has a cheater in their lobbies regardlessly

[subtle bluff]

Seriously stop bring up Div1 in Div2

[strong cave]

Some people are weirdos and get off and ruining people's player experience. Typically when that happens I get off the game 👍

[pastel basin]

Yeah, that 100% is worth it, but in division 2 PvP at least, you know you’re going to win each and every single game unless there’s another cheater, then it’s just cheat wars, whoever has the better cheat

My bunny has been on top of me for the past 3 minutes just licking my arm nonstop

[strong cave]

Seen them happen many times, anti cheaters do exist. It's funny when they stand there and type in chat. Like the spider men pointing at each other meme

[silent storm]

All I am saying is it has been a problem that Ubi and Massive have ignored since inception or they are too inept to stop it

[strong cave]

That's how I feel when I'm doing CP's and every faction wants to go for a neighborhood walk

[pastel basin]

Omg now he’s licking my ear, help

He’S LICKING MY NECK

HE BITES BRO

[cerulean smelt]

just admit it, it's whispering sweet nothings in your ear and you're enjoying it. we won't judge

[strong cave]

😂

[astral kraken]

terrifying creatures

[strong cave]

Might be trying to teach you new build theories... Look out... It might ask you to try headshot tempest

[cerulean smelt]

wait until they evolve to carnivores (> <)

[strong cave]

Next it'll tell you EB drops in Protomac

[silent storm]

Is that good?

[strong cave]

No but Cheetos are

[strong cave]

Mods please don't delete 🙏 it's cute. But definitely be wary of sending photos

Don't wanna lose image perms for all of us. It's too helpful to have those

[silent storm]

yeah I don't know if I want to give up movespeed for Tempest

[cerulean smelt]

mods, actually pin it so we can go to it when we need to cool down (> <)

[pastel basin]

Omg I remember watching those old mw2 YouTube videos about like “teaching cheaters to behave” or something

[strong cave]

Don't run headshot tempest. We had a discussion on it here earlier

Let's just say the user got humbled quickly

[gentle lichen]

If only they'd add a pet channel...

[pastel basin]

Basically some guy teaching cheaters that there’s levels to it. Getting into their lobbies over and over again until they got off. It was funny

[cerulean smelt]

fiftysdeath's pet is probably her captain (> <)

[strong cave]

Those were the days 😔 damn I miss when games were actually quality

[strong cave]

My pet consists of 4 cactus and 1 ghost pepper bush 💀

[cerulean smelt]

would've been great if you said a strawberry bush (> <)

[subtle bluff]

I love buddies.

[pastel basin]

Huh?

[subtle bluff]

getting off topic

we have a #off-topic-discussions for stuff like that

[cerulean smelt]

if mods were active here for any reason. picture would get deleted and you'd be told to post in #off-topic-discussions

[pastel basin]

OH YEAHHH

IDK WHY THEY DO THAT, Like genuinely who is it going to affect

[cerulean smelt]

depending how often you've done that, they'd eventually give you a warning

[pastel basin]

Tbh this is my general chat, I’d ask for a build in here and then get a conversation started and then mods immediately are coming after me

LIKE YOU CANT EVEN POST IMAGES THERE EITHER

OR GENERAL CHAT, this blows…

[subtle bluff]

b

[subtle bluff]

btw confirming you do 16 mill just with 6 red cores TS doesn't help the explosions.

[strong cave]

Sadly. Gotta be careful tho, mods are trigger happy here. Some are cool and will just ask you not to do it again. Others on the other hand won't hesitate to threaten the hammer

[pastel basin]

I’ve only seen that one guy with the like rainbow background, he’s cool but still, strict for no reason

[cerulean smelt]

hey mods, can you pin GeicoYT for us so if we lose picture capabilities we can blame them even if they get banned? (> <)

[subtle bluff]

You're good. Just don't go overboard with it.

[pastel basin]

NOOOOOOO

[strong cave]

😂😂😂

[strong cave]

I speak for everyone here, keep your head down. You'll learn why

[subtle bluff]

BACK TO SUBJECTS

[cerulean smelt]

there's subjects? who are the subjects?

[subtle bluff]

topics..

[strong cave]

Chow you know my ravvy build? If I ditched contractors, swapped coyote out and instead ran overdogs, think it would overall improve the build?

[subtle bluff]

🤢

[strong cave]

Humor me man 😭

[pastel basin]

Check dms

That’s a threat btw

[cerulean smelt]

you know you want to math that out

[strong cave]

If you need an image of it I can supply that too

[subtle bluff]

I don't wanna be here anymore.

😶‍🌫️

[cerulean smelt]

you would totally miss us all 🍻

[cerulean smelt]

i totally thought this was you scrubbing yourself off kind of emote 🤔

[pastel basin]

Oh wait, who here knows about raids the most? Would more armor regen or more hazard protection be better for IH?

[subtle bluff]

What role?

[pastel basin]

Still confused on which one of these two builds would be better

[cerulean smelt]

you know you said you didn't want to be here anymore. kind of an emote where you felt dirty being here (> <)

[subtle bluff]

@obtuse crystal

[pastel basin]

There’s two tanks on Mardoza right? So I’m assuming main tank?

[strong cave]

I'm being genuine like 😭😭 should I swap contractors for overdogs? I could slap Ceska on it too by doing so

[obtuse crystal]

do you be really friendly with morozova or do you put keys in the gun

[cerulean smelt]

i'd honestly say give it a shot. ceska mask and put on the overdogs and see how you do, hell, i'd say try blacklisters and see if you can survive (> <)

[pastel basin]

Ummm, keys in the gun I’m assuming 😭

[obtuse crystal]

thats key tank the best is building for pfe because the main shooting is the train which is a elite

[strong cave]

Not 100% sure Ravenous talent works with Amp. From what I gather, it's based off the crits

That'll have to be a test for later. Hopefully I got Ceska mask

[pastel basin]

And you take all the agro from the green lasers as well right?

[cerulean smelt]

of course you do, just gotta check all 16 of your alts (> <)

[strong cave]

Real 💀 and my full ass stash

[obtuse crystal]

you try to but much you can do tho if it goes to someone else

[pastel basin]

And then the other tank is basically just staggering morzova? But usually when I run it with people I only really see one tank? I think

[cerulean smelt]

the real question, if you got one in a loadout on your alt, do you want to pull it off for this test?

[obtuse crystal]

yes and also heres my iron horse tank builds https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QOo8_LOGCJ-L1bZMjMVLTYILpS-B2mpE9Y__H4HAl_0/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.36ud84mmagb5

[obtuse crystal]

2 tanks are always best makes it not a pain to do having one tank can be stressful on that one tank

[strong cave]

I likely got spare Zwi pieces in my stash too if worst comes to worse. Pretty sure I have a Zwi mask and I know I have a ceska holster. Will have to double check

[obtuse crystal]

and if youre doing the faraday strat the tardigrade will make it alot easier to survive the water for the dps players

[pastel basin]

Do you need the improvised pieces or can emperors kneepads and just one improvised piece work for this build

[obtuse crystal]

you should be fine with emperors i just use improvised for more pfe because it allows you to put on another pfe mod

[pastel basin]

In terms of min maxing

[obtuse crystal]

min maxing improvised will do better

[pastel basin]

😔

Thank you for your help!

I’ve genuinely never used a single improvised piece except for expertise

On the chill out mask, was the attribute hazard protection or armor regen?

Im assuming haz pro but just making sure

[obtuse crystal]

im pretty sure mine is hazpro but either or will do great it doesnt really matter if you have 10% hazpro or 5k armor regen

[pastel basin]

72% pfe is kinda nutty

Imagine it was all 13%

78

Anyways thank you so much for the help, and have a good one 🥹

[obtuse crystal]

you can go even more with a improvsed holster just you go over the cap of 80% so and isnt needed to me

[pastel basin]

I just realized what you said

There’s a cap 😔

You’re saying I can’t be the legit reincarnation of Superman and block every bullet

[shy willow]

No

Unless you have an overcharged defender drone

[buoyant perch]

70% pfe has the same protection as 80% pfe wearing perfect glass cannon. The last few % has way more value than the first.

[last schooner]

Best SMG for HF build? Why doesn't lady death get more love? mag size?

[hazy steeple]

No good talent on it.

the weapon talent is one of the strongest things you can add to a build.

[last schooner]

isn't 75% amp dmg good?

[magic pilot]

It's very hard to maintain

[broken edge]

it's finnicky in a world that revolves around crits and extended mags

doesnt scale will with groups also

works fine on solo

[last schooner]

so recommendations for SMG?

tac vector 9mm?

[analog mural]

its a matter of preference really since almost all weapons are balanced and HF is designed around gun and running with smgs

vector aint that good but i just like the dark winter coz i like vector... and it has perfect killer on it

[cerulean smelt]

so you're a chameleon lover too eh? (> <)

[analog mural]

hell yea brother i spent 12 hours on lincoln memorial with targeted AR trying to get it back in the day 😎

[pastel basin]

BRO CHAMELEON IS SO UNDERRATED

I genuinely don’t understand why it’s not used that much

[cerulean smelt]

it's an AR that shoots like an SMG. all over the place, plus trying to build up 3 different stacks can be rough

[analog mural]

aiming for the leg is a bad habit... and i kinda dont like individual stacks having little runtime while ur in combat

love the design

but a pain in the ass to use

i would love it more if it worked like "in-sync" but if u shoot in specific parts of the body and it will give you a corresponding buff for 5-10s or something

maybe remove the leg shooting and just focus on body/headshots

[pastel basin]

Still, insane amounts of dps once you get all 3

Not even just all 3

Just headshots and body shots it’s still powerful asf

[analog mural]

it has been collecting dust for a good while in my stash, ill probably slap it on my strikers build just to have some fun again

[pastel basin]

It really is so much fun, like I don’t use it that much and I legit optimized it just to sit dust, but the few times I’ve genuinely tried using it, it’s been so much fun

Especially with zealot

But there’s obviously always metas in a game, and for good reason, the chameleon doesn’t do good without the buffs at all, it’s only good when it has 2 or 3 which takes a good amount of bullets, it eats bullets like crazy

[subtle bluff]

It's the sucks it only proc again when you get out of combat.

[silent storm]

Then something weird happens with the ramp on TS because at low stacks you aren't hitting that hard.

[subtle bluff]

No. That’s in your own head.
Go test it yourself. If you read merciless talents it says “Weapon Damage”

Keep repeating myself with you stop trying to share misinformation unless you know for a fact and have tested or experienced it yourself. (I feel like sometimes it’s your ego farming)
Like even when you first posted that I didn’t know if it that was right or wrong hence I said I don’t remember the talent of it. Tested and yeah I was doing 14-16 mill depending on what gear I had on.

[silent storm]

First one is no stacks explosion at 3 mil and second one is full stacks 11 mil. I don't have my OvD on for this as they are on another character but I am wearing max Contractor's

I also switched off the 15% Rifle DMG on my Gunner spec because I was playing with an SMG

Regardless the numbers don't lie

TS changes the explosion value with stacks

[subtle bluff]

What's the full build you have on during this.

Btw yellow color is explosion.
Orange is crit.

You have yourself mixed up.

[subtle bluff]

Like mention above.

[silent storm]

Have my 6% CHC mods on other character as well but a couple .1 don't matter

[subtle bluff]

Your wording again.

[silent storm]

So then what is causing the orange DMG like that?

[subtle bluff]

Really... You can't read.

[silent storm]

crits but how is it producing?

[subtle bluff]

I swear I have bad English sometimes but you sometimes just….

On the 7 shot it’s AMP and does Explosion hit.

[silent storm]

So the 7th shot has 2 DMG types?

[subtle bluff]

What does the talent say.

[silent storm]

500% WD explosion

[subtle bluff]

Try again…

[silent storm]

And AMP

Ok so now I get it and I just realized it's doing even more DMG than I originally thought

[subtle bluff]

This is also the reason why for DPS for it RoF is really good for it. Hitting that 7th proc the whole quicker is big.

[silent storm]

Well shit I the only reason I stopped using it was because sometimes it's hard to stack while door camping but I might just say that with TS scaling Crits and explosion, Merciless might just be the best Rifle to use as off hand weapon

[subtle bluff]

And only sometimes since it’s on the 7th shot and it has to Crit.

[silent storm]

1 in 2 chance to crit though isn't bad odds

[subtle bluff]

You’re making wild accusations again.

[silent storm]

It isn't wild, it's just what happens when you are CCing a door and enemies are rushing out of it

[subtle bluff]

Crowd Controlling the door?

[silent storm]

You're not going to build 7 stacks in 7 shots there

[silent storm]

yes

[subtle bluff]

It doesn’t work like that. Give it a shot and then shot us.

[silent storm]

What doesn't work like that?

[subtle bluff]

HHF

[silent storm]

HHF?

[subtle bluff]

Head Hunter Fury

[silent storm]

Yeah why are you mentioning that?

[subtle bluff]

Because that’s does the door camping the best.

And sense you don’t know I thought I mention it.

[silent storm]

oh, well yeah but I'm talking about TS with Merciless

[subtle bluff]

Things again you don’t have experience about in game and trying to make accusations that you know.

[subtle bluff]

You mention that “might be the best” at door.

When really just gun everything down when you have LMG is the best.

Bluescreen if anything would better.

[silent storm]

No I said Merciless might be the best off hand Rifle for TS. The door comment was about the inability to build explosion stacks in 7 shots in a door camping scenerio

[subtle bluff]

Anyways anymore would be pointless with you. Have a good night. I’m out.

[silent storm]

Where yes just spamming Bluescreen would be better

Night dude

[lament birch]

Sorry if this seems like spam but this is a query I’ve been pondering for at least two days now.

I’m currently testing out what’re the best attachments and talents for my Lexington and my Dark Winter- I want to turn the rifle into a longer ranged tool while the sub is a crit spitter in comparison.

[strong cave]

Both weapons will be built around crit. Which you'll want CHC mods on your Lexington. As for running dark winter as a secondary, depending on the build, you'll be pretty crit chance heavy. You'll want to invest in crit damage mods for the weapon. As for the magazine mods on both guns, go with the biggest magazine you can

[hazy steeple]

What fifty said, but just to confirm: the rest of the build is what'll determine which guns you put on it.

[lament birch]

My build is the same as usual, with Quickstep as my pistol.

Strikers (Mask/Holster/Gloves/Knee pads) plus Palisade (Chest/Pack).

Plus my gadgets are Reviver Hive and Banshee Pulse or Striker Drone.

[strong cave]

Why 2 piece Palisades?

[lament birch]

Also I’ve tested out an ACOG + Laser Pointer + Suppressor on my Lexington and it’s an longer ranged AR with barely any recoil woes

[strong cave]

You'd be best off taking a ceska chest obliterate giving you more overall CHC and then your backpack can be Palisades if desired. Unstoppable force talent, vigi, bloodsucker are all fine

[lament birch]

For a boost in survivability

[strong cave]

1 piece is all you need. 2 pieces give health, which is a waste of a stat to spec into since everything revolves around armor

You're better off taking 1 piece ceska to boost overall damage

[lament birch]

I already have Obliterate on the Steelworks chest, they both have A.O.K mods slotted in + the pack has bloodsucker

[strong cave]

Yeah ditch 2 piece Palisades and go with 1 piece Palisades + 1 piece ceska

[lament birch]

Sadly, my liquid engineers are all middling in their rolls

And I would use my ninja bike but that A.O.K with Bloodsucker saves me from the big door plenty

[strong cave]

And the AOK mods won't be needed. You're too crit starved by not taking ceska and leaving out crit mods on the gear

Ninjabike backpack is a newbie trap. Backpack talents and chest talents are the strongest talents in the game. Never take ninjabike in pve

Ninjabike is a direct nerf to nearly all builds

[lament birch]

I am sure I have a cezska plate in my inventory or my stash somewhere

I’ve have to double check for it

[strong cave]

Definitely go Ceska + Palisades and not the Ninjabike route. The best defense is a solid offense

Full ditch those AOK mods and run crit mods. Your Lexington and overall DPS will thank you

Palisades + Gunner together will give 20% AOK which is identical to System Corruption and Hunter's Fury I believe

5 kills = back to full armor

[lament birch]

Ooohh nnnooo—

I never had a Cezska plate, it was only one Sokolov plate

[strong cave]

You can easily replace the backpack with a ceska one. They're pretty easy to farm for

[lament birch]

Gunner is my go to specialization honestly :))

[strong cave]

I personally run the striker backpack since it is the best DPS backpack in the game

Boosts striker damage to a near 33% I think

[lament birch]

Seeing that blue bar go up n up produces me much joyous chemicals

Saved me from near death a lot

[strong cave]

AOK is super nice, that I agree with. If your damage is good enough you could run preservation talent and keep your health topped off even more. That's optional though

[lament birch]

If I can keep the kill streaks coming along, that blue bar will stay up no matter what

Say- what talent should I use for my Lex?

I’ve been using strained for the longest time, even gave optimist, ranger and measured a good try at the range too

Measured felt the most inconsistent to me, couldn’t even break OPFOR armor bar in one mag

[silent storm]

How many blue cores do you use?

[lament birch]

And yes, this was with the ACOG + Laser + Suppressor kit I was using on it to full test it’s ranged capabilities

[lament birch]

With my dual Steelworks, two blues, plus the A.O.K mods, never ran this build with full red before-

[silent storm]

Want to break shields in 1 mag go 6 red cores

[lament birch]

But now I’m running a Sokolov plate instead of the Steelworks one, didn’t replace the pack- both plates have Obliterate as their talents

[silent storm]

What gun do you use?

Dark Winter?

[lament birch]

Here’s the revised build after taking in the feedback from Fifty and co.

[subtle bluff]

What are you trying to do here?
I think you're kind of confused.

[lament birch]

Vivi is my beloved :DD

[subtle bluff]

Bloodsucker and having a bunch of AoK is kind of a waste.

[lament birch]

For the most part yes, but I was running her with an LMG, like the GR9 with Frenzy or the M249 with Ranger, for a good while until I wanted to give Lexi a good go around with her.

[silent storm]

Honestly I would build more towards the Lexington over the Dark Winter. Stronger gun and SMG is a powerful backup

Dark Winter has long reload time

[lament birch]

Having even a hint of it with enough damage will help in seeing that blue bar stay up for longer times

[silent storm]

So only use it when you are in close range and use it as a swap instead of a mainstay

[lament birch]

I wanted to run the Lexi with an ACOG to help with its damage range

[lament birch]

I normally use Vivi as my back up as of late, it’s either an LMG or an AR as my main weapon

That’s a funky looking mask ya got there :0

[subtle bluff]

Just gonna show this replay and you can see from can be done.

Dark Winter isn't a great backup weapon due to it needing a proc to be powerful.

[lament birch]

I only have the Soko chest on because I don’t have a Cezska plate at all :((

[subtle bluff]

That's not the only thing.

[silent storm]

I love how you tell me to stop mentioning Div1 then post a video of Striker gameplay that was literally perfected in Div1

[subtle bluff]

Bloodsucker isn't worth to use vs other or even striker backpack.

[subtle bluff]

But see my video is build related to div2.

Idk what you even mean Tbh about Div1 stuff.

If you have to explain it to any degree it really isn't helpful here. Where the video is showcasing the build and the limits of it.

[silent storm]

Have you played Div1?

[hazy steeple]

Div1's striker was different to div2.
This channel is for build advice in div2.

[subtle bluff]

Context wise does it matter?

[silent storm]

Different, but same

[hazy steeple]

Nope.

[silent storm]

The gameplay is the same, skills have changed but the core tenants of Striker gameplay haven't changed since Falcon's Lost

Striker is the in your face DPS

[hazy steeple]

They very much have.
Don't keep bringing up div1, it has no impact on the builds mentioned in this channel.
A lot of people played div1, there's nothing unique about having done it.

[silent storm]

Always has been

I don't bring it up because I think I am unique

[subtle bluff]

Again it's going off topic. Stop.

[hazy steeple]

👆 Now it's time to get back to the div2 builds. We're here to give advice, not brag.

[subtle bluff]

Does that video kind help with mindset?

[silent storm]

I'm not bragging. Mr. Chow just showed us what Striker is

A great offence is the perfect defence

[hazy steeple]

The most relatable thing about this video is that one NPC running off to the side, making you hunt them down.

never stops being annoying.

[subtle bluff]

More or less. It's imperfect video showing limits of a build, gamepkay and what ads can be silly.

[silent storm]

That's bad but when you aim at the head and then they start breakdancing get's me more heated lol

You never seen them just start dodging as you aim at them?

Hyenas are the worst

[hazy steeple]

Never heard it described as breakdancing before.

Maybe if you're that one australian at the last olympics.

[silent storm]

Yeah I call it breakdancing because they move unnaturally while doing it

[lament birch]

What’s in that spice of theirs?

[hazy steeple]

Anyone who refers to them as Dune nerds.

[silent storm]

Spiced Up is the best mod this season and I am going to be sad to see it go

[lament birch]

Yeah, I’m seeing it, though I’m more impressed that you didn’t die from how low I saw your health go down, on legendary too?

I could never lol, I tried a mission on heroic once- didn’t realize they had taken the iron skull

[hazy steeple]

It's just Heroic.
Legendary is locked to specific missions (strongholds+summit) and is a unique version, always facing against Black Tusk but in white clothes.

[lament birch]

Or lost Rubiconians :p

[subtle bluff]

On leggo you have to be more methodical about your gameplay

[lament birch]

Ooohh— i remember dying twice on that difficulty and getting kicked back to the door-

….The LMB is back?? :0!!

[subtle bluff]

I am being some what reckless in the video

[lament birch]

<< Let’s get tactical, Marines! >>

[hazy steeple]

Not LMB, just BT who didn't wash the clothes right.

[lament birch]

Aahh

[lament birch]

Did my first heroic mission tonight— not bad, only died once (As per usual)

I should really swap out my gunner drone for the banshee pulse

Or the jammer pulse?

Wait a second- did the scanner pulse lose its crit modifiers?

[gentle lichen]

It's a glorified wallhack now

[lament birch]

It was already that before no?

And we even have a drone that can give mobile intel too

[gentle lichen]

I'm in love with that one
Everyone that does conflict is

[wraith zealot]

scanner pulse should've gotten the recon pack modifier that scans container from 1, because its just... meh.

[vernal tusk]

Im using rock and roll, but it looks like as12 has more rate of fire then rock and roll?

I thought rock and roll is better?

[analog mural]

its not necesarily better coz rnr has a named talent locked into it but the extra mag is nice to have for even more stacking on incursions

but people would just run a lefty for boss burns

[vernal tusk]

Yes thanks

[subtle bluff]

There the same stats wise.

RnR is BiS for building stack when stacking past 100 Stacks
ACS12 w/ Brazen is BiS for DPS
Lefty w/double RoF is BiS for quickest stacking (yes changing soon)

[vernal tusk]

I use it on heartbreaker too rock and roll

Striker yes

So lefty, ACS12 is usefull due it has rate of fire, less damage, rock and roll does not have rate of fire but more damage?

[analog mural]

no the mag size is good for stack building but people realized there are far more optimal ways and 20 shells from aa-12 is more than enough to get 100 striker stacks

sooo theyd use flatline aa-12 (if using HB) for considerably more damage

or fast hands on aa-12 if u wanna stack to 200

[subtle bluff]

Did my post get confused?

[subtle bluff]

Brazen does way more than Flatline...
RnR is best for stacking past 100

[subtle bluff]

UH? We dont use ACS12 is first mission is to get stacks not damage.

If you want damage ACS12 w/Brazen and DTTooC

Idk why I am repeating myself. THIS

OOOH words

I missed something there

There sorry

[vernal tusk]

Imm i can try get a As12 or just wait for the new shotgun. I use rock roll on striker

Since i see many players do due mag size

[analog mural]

if ur doing incursion make sure to use the lefty

[obtuse crystal]

No you want the brazen one in the incursion

[analog mural]

[vernal tusk]

Hmmm i thought stack , with striker incursion build with rock and roll?

[analog mural]

ur most likely using the strikers chest on incursion so yeah rnr works

and ofc ur healer most likely runs lefty

[vernal tusk]

So not on heartbreaker, i should have Acs12?

[analog mural]

wdym

[vernal tusk]

I use rock roll on heartbreaker too

[analog mural]

oh for heartbreaker try using a regular acs-12 with flatline if u care about dealing decent damage while stacking

[vernal tusk]

Thanks

Can i have fast hands on Acs12?

[analog mural]

ya its just a matter of preference really

[subtle bluff]

Brazen is more AMP than Flatline..

[subtle bluff]

It doesn't really matter. Well in speeds yes otherwise no.

[vernal tusk]

What does brazen do again?

[subtle bluff]

A lot of amp

[vernal tusk]

Amp?

[patent fossil]

Bigger damage

[subtle bluff]

Yes. AMP is extra source of dmg.

[vernal tusk]

Ok.

[obtuse crystal]

Yeah true

[subtle bluff]

Like even in speeds on tanker I still use RnR let's mess. For top's.

[vernal tusk]

Yes i want, like fast reloads

[subtle bluff]

No you don't. You shouldn't really have to reload ACS ever.

ACS12 is a mag dump and switch.

[obtuse crystal]

Yeah I only usually reload if I wanna stack more afterwards otherwise i never reload it

[vernal tusk]

No i mean it reload faster, i dont reload if i still have mag, fast hands, or wavering is another option but shorter duration

[subtle bluff]

I am so lost..

[vernal tusk]

Its not working like chatterbox, cause you should not reload!

[subtle bluff]

What is the context for asking for acs12...

[vernal tusk]

Its was using brazen, flatline or fast hands....

[subtle bluff]

again what's the context for using acs12..

[vernal tusk]

On heartbreaker

[subtle bluff]

For HB, you use either ACS12 w/brazen or Lefty for the same reason I stated above.

Brazen so you can stack and do good dmg.
Lefty is you just want to stack quickly.

[subtle bluff]

Don't mind the Shotgun Trinkerer build it was for kind of fun it's not a good build really.
Tinkerer has ACS12 brazen
Other clip is using Lefty.

[vernal tusk]

On the other video you use momento, lefty brazen? Heartbreaker chest, gloves, holster, mask? , do you use kneepads damage out of cover...atribute?

[subtle bluff]

Lefty can't have a talents..
No foxes isn't good vs other stuff.

The build is the Build Hub.

[hoary atlas]

using Tinkerer + Striker + Ceska (Obliterate) might be Was good idea

[gentle lichen]

3 blues is iffy especially when nothing is benefitting from it but the aok from gunner

[cerulean smelt]

i haven't been using my tinkerer since there's always some sort or exploit built into it and i don't want to have it in a build if one can accidentally tap into the exploits

[gentle lichen]

If you "accidentally" do an exploit it's really a dev issue
That was the case with blacklisters

[analog mural]

if u use the tinkerer like its intended way - getting 2 talents on ur primary then theres no exploit

[wraith zealot]

what should one run for 5 directives classified xp farm?

[strong cave]

Determined pistol build, super broken

[wraith zealot]

wont work, reduced damaged due to hollywood.

plus cool skill

[strong cave]

Is Hollywood necessary for the XP?

[wraith zealot]

well yeah, if you wanna loop it.

global event is necessary for the loop

[strong cave]

I heard if you get to the end you toggle globals back on to reset it

I don't bother with those since control points are my ways of XP farming especially using determined builds and going to closest fast travel proximity points

Can clear it in 2 minutes if you have the spawns memorized

[wraith zealot]

about the same for national bond armory.

[shy willow]

National bond is probably still the fastest xp farm rn

[strong cave]

I'll look into the XP farm today 🤔 if I noticed my pistol determined build isn't working like I plan, will just go back to control points

Also depends how many levels it gives as well

[hoary atlas]

Already got Stack Broker ACS-12 ?

[strong cave]

Still no word yet. Assume delayed

[hoary atlas]

Jeez

Imagine there Named Lightweight M4 turned to Assault Rifle

On next Veteran Rewards

[gentle lichen]

It's not

I used hotshot and it's shit with the event
Swapped to striker elmo/lex

Use shock to strip them and burst with lex is the fastest way

[strong cave]

Got it 💯 thank you. Is having the global event on mandatory or can you clear it with it off and swap it back on for reset?

I've never tried this XP farm before since I stuck to CP methods due to me having everything memorized

[gentle lichen]

uhh i still do cps i just use global event

[scenic whale]

Does shock rounds kill off the shields?

[hazy steeple]

Officially; it's EMP, explosives, or spec weapons that work for Hollywood.

[patent fossil]

Shock does in practice too iirc

[gentle lichen]

yes

[hazy steeple]

There is 0 reason it should work.

[gentle lichen]

disrupt can halt maradures the shock can do that too

[hazy steeple]

I guess I'll forget about trying a new build and just use an Elmo.

[strong cave]

Elmo's is usually the answer to everything

[patent fossil]

Every time Hollywood comes around I pull out a hw seeker spam build, then promptly give up on it after playing for a bit because it's too annoying and just go back to dps with elmo or rav

[strong cave]

Rav works for Hollywood? YO 👀

I've got just the build for it

[frozen sluice]

Guys new guy here . I have st elmo's engine with base damage as 88.9k , how do I increase it .
Any advice of builds

[strong cave]

Screenshot would be helpful 🙏 we need to see what you're working with

[patent fossil]

The explosive primers do yeah. So does merciless but takes longer to proc

[hazy steeple]

Okay so at least there's something mildly interesting I can justify using in Merci.

[frozen sluice]

One minute. I closed the game 😅. Opening it again now .

[strong cave]

All good lol. Once you drop the screenshot we can give you pointers

[hazy steeple]

Just one of your main inventory page will be enough.

[astral kraken]

nade launcher

once you proc it you can just never put it away

[frozen sluice]

5/6 of breaking point gear set.
How do I increase the damage

[hazy steeple]

I think I can see your problem pretty quickly.

you have new skills at the BoO.

[frozen sluice]

Did I do something dumb

[patent fossil]

There's no point in running more than 4pc of a gearset

[frozen sluice]

Those are unused perk points

[hazy steeple]

Not dumb, just a new player mistake.
don't worry, we all made it at one point.

What Kettle said, 4 pieces is the max.

[frozen sluice]

That's completely doable. Any suggestions to what should I use for damage buff .

[patent fossil]

To show a higher number on the weapon itself, you'd want all cores to be maxed weapon damage, and the gun itself to be expertised.
However, that's only one part of the damage you actually do to enemies.

Striker is generally the top damage build for most content, 4 pieces with a high end chest (ceska brand, obliterate talent) and an exotic such as coyotes mask or overdogs gloves

[vernal tusk]

I have banshe pulse can i use nightwatcher gila?

[frozen sluice]

You mean these

[patent fossil]

Yeah

[patent fossil]

Nightwatcher only benefits scanner pulse

[vernal tusk]

Why, hehe would be nice to have it on the other pulse skills 🙂

[cerulean smelt]

isn't breaking points purely for Rifles?

ah, rifles and Marksman rifles

[strong cave]

Run this Setup instead

I went ahead and dropped the watch points on the build tool to zero to essentially simulate your watch level. My recommendation would be as you level up your watch, focus on maxing out your critical hit chance box first. Your critical hit chance being as high as you can get it to the 60% chance cap, that's where your damage comes from. Striker will increase your weapon damage as well as you constantly hit your target. It's the best DPS gear set in the game

Once your critical hit chance box is maxed out, you can then move into stacking up critical hit damage or you can stack up your weapon damage box. The saying around here that we have is, if you aren't critting you aren't hitting

[gentle lichen]

well this is fun

[analog mural]

sir you have a crosshair on your crosshair

[gentle lichen]

double the accuracy sir

[shy willow]

That's 65 percent more crosshair per crosshair

[analog mural]

but 2x0 is still 0

[gentle lichen]

:(

[analog mural]

bro is not slick

[frozen sluice]

I know this isn't the group for this but how do I farm cleaners tactical assessment

[shy willow]

🛢️oil innit now I am

[gentle lichen]

this is how i find out the lmg is off centered my life is ruined

[analog mural]

id like to believe ur crosshair was off-center and ur gaslighting us into believing the lmg crosshair is off-center

[analog mural]

uh look for cleaners bounties on ur bounties tab while ur in NY

alternatively you can grind challenging control points until you get the crafting blueprint for the cleaners material

[gentle lichen]

I wish i was gaslighting 😭

[strong cave]

Use a micro dot. The dot guarantees you hits

[dreamy tulip]

Does the Liquid Engineer drop from countdown or is it only available at the vendor?

[hazy steeple]

@dreamy tulip DZ locked, so not in CD itself, yeah.

[dreamy tulip]

Ah dang it

[hazy steeple]

Long Term, you can get its blueprint via Retaliation crafting, or Descent.

[modern fulcrum]

How do I improve my CHC?

[patent fossil]

Gear stats, gear mods, weapon mods

[cerulean smelt]

isn't there like a 10% on the watch top left corner?

[patent fossil]

yeah that too

[vernal tusk]

I use vector with high rpm, but what AR weapon is similar - i use caretaker, lexington

[cerulean smelt]

AR high rpm is Famas or F2k i think?

[strong cave]

Famas > F2k due to the fact it has more damage, 1 more mod slot, and better optimal range

[vernal tusk]

F2k?

[cerulean smelt]

F2000

[vernal tusk]

Ohja... ok but on heartbreaker build lexington or caretaker best?

Hmmm famas i cant use tecnican laser point, so...

[strong cave]

actually, im wrong. F2k has slightly better damage, shoots 50 RPM less, and slightly better optimal range than famas. the fact f2k is missing a mod slot makes it not worth considering

[strong cave]

Lexington due to LLP. Caretaker if you plan on playing mid range

[vernal tusk]

Llp?

[strong cave]

linked laser pointer. used with tech for pulsing

[vernal tusk]

I play close range

[strong cave]

if you can make caretaker work, feel free to take it

[vernal tusk]

Yes caretaker, lexington have llp - kingbreaker support it aswell - others?

I have an issue or i dont know how to use it but i have been trying the holster that gives rate of fire, weapon damage so on, but the swapping , i heard there is a bug - i try to switch primary, secondary , it should increase mag size, rate of fire, weapon damage.

[strong cave]

kingbreaker is absolutely terrible

[vernal tusk]

Yes i just wonder llp support

[strong cave]

and no, its not a bug. the talent is very specific

when the mohawk isnt lit up, youll have bonus 1, which is the ROF and weapon damage. when the entire head is lit up (mohawk + helmet) youll have bonus 2

kingbreaker supports LLP but its a terrible weapon due to nerfs

bonus 1 active, then bonus 2 active

[vernal tusk]

Does it mean primary focuses on rate of fire , secondary , mag size , reload speed. What happens each switch - it wont be posible to have ekstended mag size on primary, reload speed, secondary rate of fire.... back to back. When i switch to sidearm i loose all bonuses- right?

[strong cave]

whichever icon is lit up, your weapon will receive the bonuses listed on the holster. so lets say for example, you're holding your pistol. you swap to primary slot 1, that means that slot will now have 20% more ROF and 20% more weapon damage. lets say you swap back to your pistol, then swap back to slot 1 again, youll now have the 2nd applied bonus, and the first set of bonuses no longer apply

[sullen island]

What's the "best" hollywood build?

[strong cave]

another example is lets say on slot 1, you had the extended mag bonus plus the handling. you swap to slot 2, that weapon will now have the first set of bonuses. its quite literally a weapon juggling holster. its more of a PVP item than PVE

another thing to note is every time you apply bonus set 2 to a weapon, then apply bonus set 1 back to the gun, it eats your ammo

[vernal tusk]

Hmmm what about when i switch primary , secondary i keep bonuses? Longer durations then 12 seconds

[strong cave]

it entirely depends on what bonus is applied to what weapon

I can make a clip of it real quick to give you an idea

[astral kraken]

i have smol brain. when i used it i did: 3-1-3-1 shoot until buff expires 3-1-3-1 shoot until buff expires

[vernal tusk]

, it eats my ammo when i switch to sidearm back to primary. But i hope it doesnt eat up ammo when switch primary, secondary. Its not a bug , why does it eat up my ammo?

[strong cave]

its easier I just show you

[vernal tusk]

Nice, kind

[strong cave]

just watch the icons at the bottom of my HUD bar and watch my ammo count

this is what the mag size should be by default, centurions changes that on 2nd bonus

for anybody curious about the build:

[vernal tusk]

Ammo count does increase when switch but i think after switch sidearm back to either seconday, primary it adds increased mag, and it looks like it does not eat your ammo, it ads ammo , like on chatterbox? , the only thing is you should not switch using chatterbox.

I dont use chatterbox , but i dont think i can , it wont work properly

[strong cave]

it still eats your ammo it just gets applied to the mag. occasionally swapping weapons over and over will cause it to reset

[vernal tusk]

Nah you mean bonuses resets yes swapping, swapping, so it does eat ammo quick 🙂

Shame but how you manage this loose ammo? Quick restock cases?

[strong cave]

gunner or boxes

or dont run centurions bc its more of a PVP item

[stone python]

Hello, whats the name of each gear piece you equiped are there any named ones?

[cerulean smelt]

think only name dis the knees. Fox's Prayer. gloves is overdogs

[vernal tusk]

Ok restock boxes is an alternativ, gunner means? Not spec... i like the bonuses centurion gives in pve:)

I might try provocator , i cant craft provocator like i did with centurion?

[strong cave]

just fox's knees. rest is all what you see. everything is crit

[smoky latch]

No and there's no blueprint. Gotta get one from the Theo Parnell climax mission

[vernal tusk]

Do we have a better smg weapon vector with high rpm - without exotic or is vector the highest rpm

[limpid ocean]

With tipping/striker should I use tinkerer/coyote respectively or the gloves from the pass

[subtle bluff]

Overdogs is the meta.

[subtle bluff]

My question would be why do you ask?

[vernal tusk]

It works better for me to play with highest rpm weapons smg, assault rifle, kill enemies But exotic im not as good

[rich cosmos]

The shotgun still isn’t out?

[vernal tusk]

No

[subtle bluff]

It shouldn’t… RPM is the end all be all for DPS. Try out SMG9

[vernal tusk]

Coverted 9,a and b i have

🙂 , vectors too, orobours chatterbox but not in use...

[grizzled garnet]

for hotshot white death build overall which does higher damage. 3pc or 4pc hotshot?

[strong cave]

about goddamn time..........

I dont even care it has skill damage on it. all im using it for is the buddy/lucy 1 shot build so I can finally take contractors...

nearly 3 whole years for this 💀

[strong cave]

can finally knock this off my list of things to fix... been a long time coming 😩

[onyx sage]

4p technically highest but uptime not 100%

[pliant pelican]

46.0% chc 140.4% chd should i higher the chc or this guud?

[solar sable]

I'd say yes, go up to 50%+ without sacrificing too much CHD

[hazy steeple]

@pliant pelican The cap for CHC is 60%, you should get as close to that as possible without going over.

Think of it like this: at 40%, you have a 60% chance every time you fire to not get a crit.

[pliant pelican]

hmm. i do not have fully crit chances in mods, only chd. it seems

i am 57.9% chc / 116.4% chd with two 5.9 chc.

[hazy steeple]

Honestly, that's better.

[pliant pelican]

bet.

[subtle bluff]

Just out of curiosity. Where did find that build from?

I know the build.

[pliant pelican]

this discord. or the other Div one. got a spreedsheet. it's 3x lengmo combo.

[subtle bluff]

Thanks.

[pliant pelican]

or 3x lengmo named Backpack backbone / perfect glasscannon / overdogs / Fox's prayer

[subtle bluff]

Again I know the build. I made the guide.

[pliant pelican]

then this disc it was

i am tho thinkin of goin some kamikaze mode atm. due to the event and explodin stuff is a fiesta.

anyone got any fun build that Explodes the world n more? so i can do this event even faster.

[solar sable]

mortar

[pliant pelican]

mortar build? bet. time to google one

[solar sable]

theres two* in the spreadsheet

[pliant pelican]

whats the most liked normal Mortal or Supremacy?

[solar sable]

@hexed steppe likes his Mortar Supremacy a lot but it requires unicorn pieces

[pliant pelican]

oh i see the pic. yikes that grind

[hazy steeple]

Most will be able to get collected via Countdown, which is worth running anyway, as you can just donate the trash bits to your Library, then Proficiency.

[pliant pelican]

tbh. 75% of the time i run those. people leave afk or overall can't kill the rogues. at the end

[hazy steeple]

Make sure you're running it on Challenging, and take a workable build to help kill stuff.
As long as you're doing the objectives, it'll let the people with super optimised builds kill stuff faster.

Not every one will be perfect, but it's a numbers game.
Or skip the randomness and join a #td2-clan-recruitment to farm it quicker.

[pliant pelican]

oh challen.

so. i do not own this backpack in the picture, but i do own Perfect combined arms / perf tech support. / perfectly tamper proof. / perfect shock & awe.

[astral kraken]

take any build, switch to demo spec, and use the grenade launcher

once you make one big boom you can just keep going

[pliant pelican]

i could use my Medic setup. prob just need to switch backpack?
2x Shiny monkey.
2x Electrique
1x BTSU

[subtle bluff]

all they need for the hollwood event is just Demo spec weapon and a emp pulse

[pliant pelican]

imma run this bc randoms loves to die from everything. i can at least be a lil supp on the side.

[solar sable]

ikik, I just read the words build/explosive/fun and thought of mortar hehe

[woven pewter]

Minigun from gunner works too.

[gentle lichen]

I WILL ONCE AGAIN PREACH ELMO SHOCK REMOVES SHIELD

[woven pewter]

Scorpio can do that too. :p And as others mentioned - Ruthless/Merciless - make a help too.

[hexed steppe]

Its too bad disrupt from bluescreen does not tho 😢

[ashen violet]

Does bleed do it?

Probably not but I might as well check

[gentle lichen]

nope

[hexed steppe]

until you have a teamate running od

[gentle lichen]

they don't exist

[hexed steppe]

sometimes i wish that were true

[last schooner]

is the 3 pc bonus for Urban Lookout worth it for an MMR build?

I'm guessing Hotshot is still superior

[strong cave]

Hotshot is still king. When the devs dropped urban lookout, using an MMR build, Yannick showcased a ninjabike build

[solar sable]

A WHAT?!

[strong cave]

It killed me inside to see the face of our game using a build like that. But it explained everything as well

[last schooner]

I guess duration works with decoy?

[strong cave]

Yeah you missed it. I saw it live on stream. They also had a fire alarm full interrupt the stream and it was over within 30m 😂

Didn't even try to get a follow up stream going. They gave up and said "anyways, patch notes are here and update is tomorrow, have fun"

[strong cave]

Skill duration? Pretty sure, yes

[solar sable]

horrible example for a showcase

[last schooner]

born great vs huntsman vs caretaker?

or stick with Lex

[strong cave]

Lex > Caretaker > Huntsman > Born Great (edit)

[last schooner]

lex with killer? haha

[strong cave]

Caretaker at 25m+ you'll notice pure shit accuracy

[strong cave]

That's the way to go. If you're not getting consistent kills in groups run Strained or Measured

[solar sable]

killer is great for solo play, and as fiftys said, it holds up if you can kill in groups

[last schooner]

Killer good for LMG too?

[shy willow]

Any crit based setup

[subtle bluff]

what's wrong with that?

[solar sable]

its a genuine question lol

[strong cave]

Killer is solid for LMGs. Frenzy would arguably be the strongest talent

[ashen violet]

Ahem

[last schooner]

Yeah that was a question not being sarcastic 😅

[drowsy mica]

I forget, do LMGs have optimist?

[analog mural]

iirc optimist is available on every weapon type so yes

[last schooner]

is backfire worth building around? What does it offer that a HF SMG build or Strikers SMG build doesn't

[drowsy mica]

I've seen a lot of people run a HazPro backfire build with Memento

My friend made one and it shreds, while also offering great survivability and immunity to the bleed effect

Slap a crusader shield on top of that and it'll be even better

[zinc canyon]

Hey I’m new to the game and just hit level 20 what should I do for builds?

[fair dragon]

Don't worry about builds until you get to lv 40

[subtle bluff]

You mean on YouTube. It's not very special without the season modifiers from last season.

[subtle bluff]

You don't need hazpro/bleed immunty to deal with the bleed.

[drowsy mica]

No, present day while in game

[subtle bluff]

I said not as special...

[drowsy mica]

Still pretty strong

[subtle bluff]

If you're using this modifiers it's kind of mid.
There's a reason why there's a a very few if even people that have ran that build thru solo legendary.

[drowsy mica]

Since when is solo legendary the benchmark for builds lol 😭

And I messed with the build without the modifiers

[subtle bluff]

If you're saying it's strong then that's the benchmark.

Powerful. No modifiers. Solo legendary.

[drowsy mica]

Heroic difficulty is what I consider basic benchmark

[drowsy mica]

Cool, but that’s not what I'm talking about though

[subtle bluff]

Idk this is the benchmark.

When running BF vs a normal smg it's slower to get everything cleared.

[drowsy mica]

If a build can competently handle heroic, I consider it viable

[subtle bluff]

Again you do not need hazpro to deal with the bleed.

[subtle bluff]

Almost anything is viable up to solo heroic tho.

[drowsy mica]

I never said you need hazpro

[subtle bluff]

Fair

[drowsy mica]

Yeah, as a lot of it should be. That's basic balancing. 5000 striker builds is kinda boring, and I love striker

[subtle bluff]

It's the benchmark. Not saying it's needed to use everyone but it's a build everyone should just have.

[drowsy mica]

Still doesn’t mean that what I suggested isn't powerful and fun in the right hands

As long as the build is fun to use and can handle most content in the game, awesome

[subtle bluff]

Melting ads is fun.

[drowsy mica]

I'm still gonna use my striker and HB builds like 90% of the time though lol

[drowsy mica]

Agreed, but sometimes making a weird combo that shouldn't be viable work is fun

[subtle bluff]

As long as it's not people saying tank builds are viable everywhere.... Ugh.

[subtle bluff]

Ya I'll do that once awhile.

But that's mostly gameplay.

[drowsy mica]

Did you have a bad experience with a tank main or something? 😭
What's wrong with tank builds?

I've had amazing legendary runs with tank users that clutched the match

[wraith zealot]

"But i didnt die once in legendary while being a tank and doing damage too!" meanwhile the striker, ND, TS people at the back 😓 😡

[hazy steeple]

Don't ask 'chow about tank builds, we only just stopped the screaming.

[subtle bluff]

This is my clip for it now.

Support tanks can be a thing. But a selfish tank that can only stand upright.

Can suck it.

[drowsy mica]

The whole point of tank builds are not dying and pulling aggro

[wraith zealot]

THEY CANT PULL AGGRO

[drowsy mica]

They can tho? 😭

[wraith zealot]

istg people treating TD 2 like classic mmorpg sometimes.

[subtle bluff]

There's no threat table.

[drowsy mica]

I can think of at least two legendary manning runs I've had in the past month where a tank player soaked up attention and allowed the damage players to do our job

[subtle bluff]

There's no reliable way to hold agro. Other than mosquito

[drowsy mica]

Increased threat is literally an attribute?

[subtle bluff]

Doesn't do much other than say you're at the decoy level.

[hazy steeple]

If you mean that the tank was way ahead of the damage dealers, most folks refer to "pulling aggro" as the damagers being up front too.

[wraith zealot]

The only way these "tank" mains were pulling aggro is by forcing the enemy to melee or running mosquito, for the 1st one after they are done with melee animation will go right back to shooting red cores that did damage.

[subtle bluff]

The only thing we kind of reliable know that creates more threat is DMG.

[wraith zealot]

yeah ok, but have you seen anyone using that set as tank? no, right?

so dont bring that argument, it wont hold

[drowsy mica]

Bulwark shield literally has increased threat iirc

[wraith zealot]

will get overriden by damage dealers, 100% of the time.

whatever the grammar is

[subtle bluff]

Our joke is that when a tank goes to tank the chunga that a dps is working that dps pulled agro the tank walk into the line of fire to block but then the dps can't hit the chunga....

[drowsy mica]

What is this server's problem with build diversity? 🥺

[subtle bluff]

Doesn't do anything.

[drowsy mica]

Just let people have fun

[subtle bluff]

Again I mention it. Support tank is a thing.

[drowsy mica]

Yet it literally does

[wraith zealot]

bring your fun anywhere except my legendary matchmaking, please and thank you.

[subtle bluff]

The shield doesn't create any threat.

[pastel basin]

Anyone have a really good solo build? Like with good amount of survivability and dps

[wraith zealot]

standard striker memento should work.

but then again, i would just run any 1 shot build, they cant shoot you if they are dead when they are out of cover @pastel basin

[drowsy mica]

I wouldn't want to be in your legendary team with any build tbh lol
The whole point of a team is to work together with different roles

I enjoy my teams with variety

[wraith zealot]

and i enjoy finishing my legendary mission within reasonable time, instead of almost 1 hour due to wiping because not enough damage dealers.

[pastel basin]

^^^

fr bruh, I get so frustrated whenever people bring full on blues and do no damage whatsoever

[drowsy mica]

With a well coordinated team, you won't wipe as well

2 dps, a healer, and a tank is my ideal team

[pastel basin]

Tank doesn’t make sense because of how agro works in this game and would be better to run a crowd control build, and dps mow the enemies down

You don’t really even need a healer either or a crowd control player

Legit, I did a capital building run with 4 dps all of us basically camping enemy spawns and finished within less than 30 min

Complete random team too, then we all decided to do Roosevelt and same thing

[pastel basin]

Btw I genuinely forgot how fast it was but it was quick asf

[hazy steeple]

What's the phrase: "the best defense is a pile of corpses".

[pastel basin]

Not even 30 min

[drowsy mica]

Look, I'm a dps main too, but dont hate on tank and heal players. They have valuable roles too

[pastel basin]

Arach, the only places for tanks in this game is legit raids, or if you’re running that true patriots, even then, it would be better for them to just not even run it and run pure dps

[wraith zealot]

if you camp spawn door you'll finish capitol within 15 mins

[hazy steeple]

They can valuably stay out of my Legendary groups.
And this is coming from someone who still hasn't let an Aces build go.

[pastel basin]

No 100% healers are amazing when you have them. Especially good ones, but tanks 100% just no

[wraith zealot]

nah dont you bring healers into this as if we're disparaging them, we only hate glorified decoy here.

my FI and EP fellow agents will always have a spot on legendary mm.