td2-build-advice

[violet shadow]

Ik it's just for the fun not for the actual build...

[cerulean smelt]

forgot a step. leave cover then fire

[stark flicker]

builds for legendary floor 10 farm?

[solar prairie]

Is floor10 farm still a thing until now?

[subtle bluff]

He's most likely going for a BH

[solar prairie]

sorry, BH means? Bighorn now drops in floor10?

[subtle bluff]

If you're doing on Legendary.

[solar prairie]

I see, I used to spam floor 100 for that

[subtle bluff]

every 10th floor spawns 2 name guys that always drop your targeted loot. (3 named for 90th)

[hazy steeple]

@solar prairie I did love the initial Floor 100 farm, when Summit first dropped.

shout out to the 7 guaranteed hunter spawns that made me almost fall off my chair the first time.

[solar prairie]

Same, I did those a lot, but I could no longer remember that it was 7 hunters. Do people still spam those till this day?

[subtle bluff]

You can.

[hazy steeple]

It's now not locked to Legendary, and it's down to Group Size +1.

so not as crazy.

[subtle bluff]

the only reason you spam it now is for xp stuff

[hazy steeple]

Well I mean......it is only kill XP, there's no completion XP after that first one, unless you reset to Floor 1.

[solar prairie]

so 5 hunters, thats boring!

[subtle bluff]

they've changed the room.

[hazy steeple]

Yeah you can't hide outside like a coward anymore.

I said it.

[solar prairie]

We never did but we all shot overcharged oxidizers and spawn killed

I guess that is no longer a thing with the room change?

[hazy steeple]

The OG meta was to get one sacificial lamb to bait them in, then nuke the doorway.
Now it forces you through and closes the door before they spawn in.

[solar prairie]

But still the same room layout, and they spawn once you step down the stairs?

[hazy steeple]

Basically yeah, identical, just can't wait in the ante-chamber.

[solar prairie]

I've really only done the oxidizer method since summit dropped

an Asian farmer was kind enough to teach me, and since then, they were my static farming group

[hazy steeple]

I'm glad they took the time off from their crops.

[solar prairie]

I still see them online but they no longer reply

[hazy steeple]

That happens a lot online, don't take it personally.

Some people feel too much time has passed and feel awkward about trying to talk after so long.

[solar prairie]

They are probably, oh its this guy again tht we need to use google translate

[hazy steeple]

I'm not sure what the current Flr 100 build meta is, but most folks just focus on a lower boss room instead, often 10, since it's quick to get to.

[solar prairie]

I miss the floor 10 days

[hazy steeple]

You can still farm it, you just don't get full completion XP unless you go back to Floor 1.

It's a fair change, the other one looked to be causing server issues.

[solar prairie]

So you just get the mob kill xp, so thats like 15% of the bar?

[hazy steeple]

You don't really do it for XP, just loot.

[solar prairie]

I think it still might be good for high roll items

The illusive 13% PfE

[hazy steeple]

Up to 10 Directives is a nice boost to your TL chance.

[solar prairie]

I still have them.. the memories!

Each loadouti is ever so slightly different to fill the missing piece of the oxi team. I never farmed that floor with guns. I also had a static team for it back then.

[broken cradle]

Good morning agents

[rapid arrow]

This build is absolutely bonkers

Basically striker if it was good

[hazy steeple]

I know that's you trying to get a reaction, but we generally don't advise that kind of thing on here.

[strong cave]

Hooray! Diminishing Returns!

Excessive CHD isn't worth it

[cerulean smelt]

would 4 haz pro be enough not to kill them in that build? 🤔
my initial thought was "this a pvp build? do they use it in PVE?"

[hazy steeple]

I think the answer there is going to be "you don't need hazpro, just aim better".

Not that I necessarily agree with that, but that's the usual response Backfire builds get.

[cerulean smelt]

was just thinking considering this season blue cores adds some haz pro and we've battled with people coming here in droves because "youtube backfire builds are godly!" then the few very knowledgable people have to educate them

[subtle bluff]

Isn’t that the same post it posted 6 hours ago?

[subtle bluff]

strikers bets to differ.

[obtuse crystal]

it was posted before if thats what you mean chow

[broken cradle]

Question, I'm using the modifiers for my striker build. Right now it's hard core-assualt link-safety first-multitasker-loaded up. Are these good? If not, suggestions?

[cerulean smelt]

just read they said it was better than striker and was thinking "sure if one likes to do the hokey pokey to do some extra damage opposed to just shooting and doing damage" but yeah i'd say let them dream

[obtuse crystal]

wait i just realized does he have like 400 chd

[hazy steeple]

@subtle bluff I wasn't online 6 hours ago.

[cerulean smelt]

honestly each modifier is more of a personal preference @broken cradle

[obtuse crystal]

at max

[subtle bluff]

I don’t remember summy found it.

At this point I bet he’s gonna post again just to spam it without reallly caring.

[cerulean smelt]

i scrolled up to find it and gave up XD

[hazy steeple]

Ah there we go, yeah just less clickbaity before.

[obtuse crystal]

i just searched messages from him and found it instantly

[subtle bluff]

Mobile app sucks to search on

[hazy steeple]

Unfortunately I have to do that a lot, so it tends to be second nature.

in all fairness, the desktop app also sucks to search on.

[cerulean smelt]

wait, i thought AI was supposed to know where every message is? 🤔

[obtuse crystal]

its better than moblie

[hazy steeple]

A modern AI might, but vista limits my access.

[cerulean smelt]

lol good one

[pliant pelican]

is there a way to fix the HB not doing its job? i am beamin enemie's faces but i ain't getin any extra shield + tried to eqiup another set.

[subtle bluff]

Need more context

[cerulean smelt]

depends, there are some enemies that don't have a head (mini tanks or warhounds) and when i play HB i go the technician route and equip the link light pointer to get around needing to hit heads and if memory serves that head shot only pulses them for a few short seconds

[pliant pelican]

i did a heroic mission earlier and my HB stacks never showed. after the mission, i eqiupped striker / some random loadout i had. switched back. and idk feels its jsut offline.

it was cleaners i beliv i hunted. but imma try on dummies with the good ol AC 12. see if it works.

[obtuse crystal]

i believe taking off one piece and putting it back on can fix it

not sure tho because i dont use heartbreaker

[pliant pelican]

and now someohow my laser pointer was off the gun. is the game trollin me or some o:

[cerulean smelt]

depends, think if you use the same gun in different loads outs with different mods it doesn't really change the mods on the guns themselves

[pliant pelican]

current setup. for some reason after switching my HB to striker my laser pointer came off, but after few ports to NY / DC / brook it seems to work now.

• Current 54% CHC / 101.8% CHD getttn there at least.

[cerulean smelt]

1 blue core. don't think you'd be getting much bonus armor while aiming down sights honestly

[pliant pelican]

aye. didnt have any luck finding a good kneepad. / crafting so i just kept my old one.

• my first build had 5 blues. & rest red.

to be exact.

[obtuse crystal]

loadout 1 and 3 names are funny af

[pliant pelican]

ah yes. my clan wants me to go Striker for raid but Yuck.

here's the 1 min builds

[cerulean smelt]

well, not just your clan it'd be the add control for every run in general regardlessly

[pliant pelican]

i just pref not runnin striker tbh so damn squish. and some lil dps. so i'll pref HB or anything with more survability

[obtuse crystal]

i honestly dont really care what your build is as long as youre killing things

[pliant pelican]

i wish my clan would see it like that :p

for them Striker or nothing.

[cerulean smelt]

i can kill the floor with hugs. would that count? (> <)

[obtuse crystal]

8 man scaling and 6 blue and memento dont mix well tbh

[pliant pelican]

could inv and ya could ask

i did built this instead of Striker (or tried) it's a Rifle fast tap build. does crit the millions. and shreds armor tbh sometimes (bc my aim sucks)

[cerulean smelt]

oh, didn't realize i tagged the wrong person. was trying to ask Summy The Dummy that question XD

[obtuse crystal]

how would you do that

[pliant pelican]

Magic.

[cerulean smelt]

go down, let my own hive pick me up go down again?

[obtuse crystal]

death is only allowed if we negoed the boss otherwise we will kick you if you die (joke)

[cerulean smelt]

i kid about that honestly. i had a good teacher for this game

[obtuse crystal]

if building for crit boomerrang could also be a good choice tbh

[cerulean smelt]

the rifle build for bad aiming build i was expecting HH + Determined honestly

[pliant pelican]

did the forbidden knowldege. followed a yter :p
but
its 100% crit / chd.

• ceska with obl etc 45.8% chc 144% chd

[cerulean smelt]

i'm surprised you dont' have a ceska with obliterate with your striker build honestly

[obtuse crystal]

its better than fenris

[pliant pelican]

bc striker is yuck :p idk i jsut randomly put it together to make em stop yap

[obtuse crystal]

i use a sacrifice on mine tho

[pliant pelican]

this is what i tried for. apparently this build shreds if done right

[obtuse crystal]

range isnt a good way to test dps

[cerulean smelt]

my teacher made me wear that with gift and 1 other providence, fox's, contractor's and the mask is pretty much anything i could use

[obtuse crystal]

way better way to test dps in pinned messages

[pliant pelican]

i kno i can do hc control points. just take a lil time due to my aimin do be a blind sniper

or ill usually go healer that do be fun. shooting folks with a chem launcher

[obtuse crystal]

"i healed the rusher"

[cerulean smelt]

@subtle bluff gif?

[pliant pelican]

i have 2 builds of it. one i made & one my clan recommeded.

[obtuse crystal]

show me the one you made

[obtuse crystal]

make fi please

[cerulean smelt]

that could use some serious work

[pliant pelican]

i got one :p

[obtuse crystal]

assuming thats not what they recommended

please use that its so so much better

[pliant pelican]

nah they recommended F1 or whatever this is called, but my build still do heal i've tried both.

[obtuse crystal]

future also gives a damage buff

[cerulean smelt]

you don't use a shotgun to utilize the backpack talent. you don't get skill kills to utilize skilled so it's a terrible build honestly

[obtuse crystal]

the only viable chestpiece talent if not fi chest is empathic

[pliant pelican]

got scorpio & AC12 eqiupped on my healin build. forgot about that

[obtuse crystal]

i think they meant the one you made its capacitor and a quiet roar im assuming

[pliant pelican]

then i tried a 1886 rifle / sniper / 1 tap / something. they said were the giga to solo run control points with

[cerulean smelt]

that would be the headhunter determined build

[pliant pelican]

i have 2 of it. one is all named items. and other is with break point.

[obtuse crystal]

if rifle i think best is 2 piece breaking point 2 zwiadowka tinkerer foxes

rifleman determined is best talents if not determined ranger/rifleman

[pliant pelican]

here's the fancy ones.

[cerulean smelt]

nods head hunter doesn't exactly require Chainkiller walker and harris named chest to make work

[obtuse crystal]

whats your crit chance on build 2

and 1

[pliant pelican]

damn just closed game. lemme pop it up, 2 sec

[strong cave]

only way it would work is if they ditch memento and instead do 2 pc ceska

on an SMG build, its pointless to take ceska

[cerulean smelt]

the french one i'd swap out that holster for something else as taht holster is for Marksman Rifles (sniper) rifles aren't sniper

[cerulean smelt]

i know, i was just thinking 3 days from now they'll be using that and wondering "why am i bleeding so much?!" come here and ask

[pliant pelican]

1886 French build 1. (all named)

• 20.4% chc
• 66.2% chd
• 183.6% headshot dmg
• build 2. Break point.
• 15.5% chc
• 66.2% chd
• 210.8% headshot dmg

[obtuse crystal]

killer needs a crit to work or deal more damage youll be better off with rifleman instead of killer

[cerulean smelt]

oh, nm. thought one hadsburge was MMR damage. just looked at the sheet and see it's headshot damage nm

[obtuse crystal]

1 piece is hsd 2 piece is mmr

3 piece is useless

[pliant pelican]

i didn't facny the build too much not that many red enemies to buff off. so decided to just HB - elmo for simple lifing

[obtuse crystal]

could go a high end ar with a long barrel for linked laser (pulses whatever you aim at)

[pliant pelican]

could try that. any builds ya recomendations?

[strong cave]

depending on how you spread your attributes out, the backfire build will still work. just need to take bleed mods but the YTers boast that its "full hazpro bro"

so youd only be bleed immune, not full hazpro, which defeats the purpose

[pliant pelican]

i am tho horrible. at aimin 95% of the time so rifles / snipers, ain't the best xd

[obtuse crystal]

i dont use heartbreaker so i dont really know but you could try the ikia heartbreaker techtank (lexington or m4 is better if you have it than kingbreaker) https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1AxtLZi8SbziT3N7F6P8VM5J2h8yp4rLAFaSBIJA8Y4I/edit

[cerulean smelt]

i know, which i find funny how people try to use it with gearsets and wonder why they're damage isn't there or why they bleed a lot as to me there's no balance to have crit chance and haz pro

[pliant pelican]

i tried a M4. but didnt perfome too well, got recommended Carbon in here. so im runnin that fancy m4.

[obtuse crystal]

the only ar i use tbh is lexington

the increased base is nice

[pliant pelican]

then i'd need to switch mask since that ain't workin with named. should that be coyote?

[obtuse crystal]

yeah

[cerulean smelt]

or you could just go back to memento

[obtuse crystal]

i only use tinkerer on my od build which uses a lmg tbh

[cerulean smelt]

i use mine in a striker build with GR9 main. frenzy + optimist is pretty fun in it XD along with Turmoil

[obtuse crystal]

i hate the idea of turmoil tbh sounds like a worse nego build

[cerulean smelt]

you're not wrong, it's just a fun build for me honestly

this last pts they gave us our current saves and i was able to use the build to clear out a retaliation and complete it. so it'll probably be my goto for retaliations

[obtuse crystal]

ill probably use hunters fury

but idk

[cerulean smelt]

i'll also be carryign with me a striker knees with a ceska obliterate chest too if i feel i need to swap them out XD

[strong cave]

Give the carbine 7 a tickle 🙏

[obtuse crystal]

its not my lexington

no

[cerulean smelt]

imo: lexington and carbine 7 are about the same damage wise (> <) was never a fan of lextington honestly

[strong cave]

crutch

[strong cave]

only noticeable difference between the 2 is the rate of fire

[obtuse crystal]

i mainly use cuz i can change talent around

[strong cave]

thats why you get you a carbine 7 you can change the talent around. yk whats crazy too? you can use it with tinkerer

already better than lexington 😎

[obtuse crystal]

i use tinkerer on one build and its not strikers

[strong cave]

lemme guess... OD?

[obtuse crystal]

and i dont use a ar on that build

[strong cave]

why am i not surprised 😂

[obtuse crystal]

because a 30% amp and a 15% amp is great

[strong cave]

wouldnt Sadist + Killer give more than over amplifying damage?

[obtuse crystal]

honestly i dont know

and didnt wanna check

yeah ikias video shows its better

[strong cave]

give it a check

you heard the man. its better. use it!

[cerulean smelt]

hear i would've thought Sadist + pressure point would be ideal honestly

[strong cave]

thats due to it being 2 different damage sources. Killer for Crits, which OD has crit damage starvation, and sadist amplifies to the FMJ rounds

[obtuse crystal]

but the 15% amp on the foamed guy 💔

[strong cave]

its the same if its a crit regardless 😭

[obtuse crystal]

isnt it hollow point not full metal jacket

(i know nothing about guns if its not obvious)

[strong cave]

IRL wise, technically, FMJ would go right through you, making an entry wound and an exit wound. Hollow Points will cause bullets to fragment and shatter, getting stuck in a body. Basically, its the "a-hole" ammunition. I think of OD as FMJ rounds because more bleeding

but the game's logic would tell you otherwise 😭 (def didnt get automodded by my last message)

[obtuse crystal]

all bullets irl would apply bleeding but that would be too op in game cuz of sadist

[strong cave]

true but not all hollow points cause entry and exit wounds ☝️ 🤓

FMJs for the most part do. They're designed for piercing

I really need to stop watching Guntube 💀

[obtuse crystal]

yeah you should watch ikia instead

[strong cave]

😭

[cerulean smelt]

next thing we'll be hearing that Fiftysdeath is on a list and wonders why XD

[strong cave]

Guns are a passion of mine what can I say 😭

Smith & Wesson my beloved ♥️ Glock > Sig

[cerulean smelt]

about only gun video i think i watched was some demo of people shooting guns at the cybertruck

[strong cave]

Brandon Herrera per chance?

[obtuse crystal]

pressure point is better assuming youre in a group tho tbh cuz bad uptime on killer probably tbh thinking abt it

[strong cave]

dont think Whistlin Diesel would do that sorta thing unless with .50 Cal Barrets

[cerulean smelt]

no clue, but probably if he's the one that showed like a grandma shooting at it

[strong cave]

whats the liklihood of you being in a group VS solo... thats about what it boils down to

[onyx sage]

y'all nerds

[strong cave]

what guns are you into? And don't say "Nerf or nothing"

[onyx sage]

i like the relic and prophet

[cerulean smelt]

Average player " the kinds that shoots"?

[obtuse crystal]

OH YAYYYYYYYYY A FREE CRIT ON MY HEADSHOT BUILD

[strong cave]

sounds like guns the average player would take

[cerulean smelt]

though i think fiftysdeath was talking guns IRL not in div 2 honestly

[onyx sage]

oh then i want the g28 and magnum

[strong cave]

which magnum?

[cerulean smelt]

got your clint eastwood outfit and phrase perfected?

[onyx sage]

the one that's 686 and that the police uses

[strong cave]

H&K G28 is a beauty

[strong cave]

thats the Smith & Wesson Model 686 🔥 its a cool ass revolver. Should give the S&W 500 a look

My EDC is the S&W M&P 2.0

would kill to have a .40 chambered Sub-Compact S&W. they recently dropped the Shield 2, sadly mostly chambered in .380 ACP. not a fan

[onyx sage]

yeah i'm just joking. i haven't really thought about what guns i should get irl yet even when i'm in a gun state

[strong cave]

im from Michigan and moved to florida a few years ago. The yeehaw mentality down here is near on par with Texas

[cerulean smelt]

aww, can't find a gif of police academy when that old lady shoots the magnum and goes flying backwards 😭

[strong cave]

my dream gun to shoot is a cold war era Dragunov SVD 🙏 wood finish 🫦

[onyx sage]

is a magnum practical irl?

[obtuse crystal]

Probably not tbh

Other than for style points

[onyx sage]

yeah i thought so

[cerulean smelt]

this would probably be me shooting a magnum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrPvUd7E9HU

[obtuse crystal]

I don’t know anything about guns tho so ask one of the gunnuts here

[onyx sage]

it's okay i know even less

[strong cave]

You can carry a magnum, sure, but the problem with magnums is that they're only 6 shots. the cool part is that they don't jam

[onyx sage]

yeah, i also feel it'd be clumsy reloading them

[strong cave]

the other issue is that some of them dont really have safeties. safety being your hammer

[onyx sage]

yeah

[strong cave]

they make speedloaders for them but they're finnicky. youre better off going with a semi-automatic Dbl stack fed weapon

sgl stack aint bad but yk, less bullets. they make sub-compat dbl stack weapons that can hold near 15 rounds

[glad heart]

The trigger finger is the safety. The real trouble with magnums, is they pass through the wall and kill you family

[strong cave]

this for the most part

[limpid ocean]

How are people hitting 2mil crits with striker while I do 1 mil crits

[strong cave]

but I think they mean doing CC. which I personally wouldnt CC a magnum. Id feel safer appendix carrying a P320 before I CC a magnum pistol 😭

[glad heart]

Glass Cannon I believe. I can't even really hit 1mil crits

[strong cave]

depends on build, and also depends on what other modifiers are in play as well as team bonuses

are you watching build videos of people showcasing builds that boast such numbers?

[onyx sage]

yeah i wasn't considering magnums to actually use them. i just think they're used now for niche reasons

[obtuse crystal]

Usually a glock will do better than it

[strong cave]

magnums are sexy pistols but for actual usage, i wouldnt carry one to defend myself

[limpid ocean]

Yeah

I see people post pictures here often

[strong cave]

drop the video link here and i can tell you how they're doing it

[obtuse crystal]

Or a pump action shotgun

[strong cave]

depends on what's fed in the shotgun. Birdshot, buck shot, or slugs?

[obtuse crystal]

Buckshot probably

[strong cave]

better off with a slug

birdshot and buckshot will spray everywhere. you want a direct impact

[obtuse crystal]

I mean unless your point blank

[strong cave]

point blank, that slug with blow your body everywhere. but then again, any point blank shotgun blast will blow chunks like its a meat factory

[onyx sage]

i thought about getting a slug shotty

[obtuse crystal]

Just don’t use a .950 jdj fat mac tbh (I’ve heard that video so many times)

[strong cave]

theyre super cool 🙏

[limpid ocean]

I can post links here right?

[cerulean smelt]

@limpid ocean if those videos are semi recent (thinking 2-3 weeks) and they're doing 22 million damage. gotta becareful of them as they're probably exploiting the mask to do that damage

[strong cave]

yes, you can. its allowed. you just cant post your own

[cerulean smelt]

probably as long as you're not posting a link that's showing how to do exploits/glitches

[strong cave]

Beware of Widdz, hes been using BLB in the firing range to show off "insane damage numbers"

cant say for sure if Patrick Wolf is one of them too. hes been around boasting the T8 sub machine gun as recommended usage on builds with tinkerer

[cerulean smelt]

about only trust worthy youtubers for me are NGN and Roguegold so far these days

[strong cave]

I only trust in Dod and iKia. And DJ Tickle

as long as it isnt a KVD video, we are good

[cerulean smelt]

sad i saw a video of i think same youtuber showing how to exploit the stretch goals and it still works for this stretch goal event. you'd think they'd see that video and put in a fix

[obtuse crystal]

I saw him in my White House yesterday

[strong cave]

I wouldve did the facepalm emoji in front of him tbh

then the slow clap

[cerulean smelt]

i haven't seen DOD videos come up on my feed lately. does he still do them?

[strong cave]

hes been going thru life events but hes still around

[cerulean smelt]

feels like tickle the same thing for me, just nothing from him either

[limpid ocean]

It was from 5 months ago but I coulda sword I seen people's here posting 2mil crits I just can't find them

[obtuse crystal]

I took a picture and sent a picture to my friend and said “the White House got a new trash can”

[strong cave]

tickle took a small vacation but is back making videos

[strong cave]

LEMME SEE 🙏

[limpid ocean]

Actually it was 4 days ago

https://youtu.be/pNr6y0g81nU?si=KsYaoqovadAgm3bP

[obtuse crystal]

Busy bee

[cerulean smelt]

busy bee and centurions holster

[limpid ocean]

Oh

[strong cave]

BLB gives 20% extra weapon damage per stack, and since thats stacked halfway about, they're getting basically double the damage output. its bait

[cerulean smelt]

so probably stiker chest, BLB, Centurion's holster. Strained

[obtuse crystal]

I could prob get higher than that if I tried to

[cerulean smelt]

no doubt

[obtuse crystal]

Without busy bee

[limpid ocean]

I see people hitting like 2mil flat tho

[cerulean smelt]

hmm, chow must've went to bed 🤔

[obtuse crystal]

I think highest I’ve hit per shot like 5 mill with strikers chest with backfire striker shield overcharged pulse bloody knuckles sledge and oppo

And fi buff

But I’ve done 1bill damage before as well

[onyx sage]

nah they're probably getting buffed by something you don't know

[cerulean smelt]

i only did that in a PTS once

[obtuse crystal]

I did on Razorback

[onyx sage]

i would take your time to inspect the builds carefully, but most of the time you don't hit 2mil that much if you use high rpm weapons with striker

[limpid ocean]

I guess but like all my dps builds barely go over 1mil if they even do

[cerulean smelt]

was some weird stacking mechanic from a gearset of some sort. could literally do it in the shooting range, go run a mission and every bullet did that damage 😹

[limpid ocean]

Even with seasonal modifiers

[onyx sage]

you probably are using high rpm weapons, they're balanced to have lower base damage

[obtuse crystal]

Highest I’ve hit without a buff I think is like 1.6 with strikers pgc vigilance and killer

[onyx sage]

how can you play pgc? don't you instantly die?

[strong cave]

thats what birdies is for 😎

[limpid ocean]

Might be killer then

[obtuse crystal]

No because the ads are dead

[cerulean smelt]

i do if an npc looks at me with a side eye

[onyx sage]

you guys are much better than me

[limpid ocean]

Could be my lower expertise level

[onyx sage]

killer is pretty strong

[cerulean smelt]

honestly. imo expertise isn't all that great

[limpid ocean]

I hate the grind for it

[obtuse crystal]

Only is nice on oneshot builds

[cerulean smelt]

not even needed for those

[obtuse crystal]

If it allows you to oneshot something you couldn’t before

[limpid ocean]

Reminded me to get a hotshot build

[onyx sage]

just got expertise 30 on achilles 🙏

[obtuse crystal]

One of 2 skills that deserve it

[cerulean smelt]

verdict?

[onyx sage]

it's very relevant

working on oxi next

[cerulean smelt]

i do enjoy killing myself with my 30 expertise oxidizer 😹

[obtuse crystal]

Aight everything is almost dead time to run into my own oxi

[cerulean smelt]

no more like, hey i can shoot my rifle through this big wall opening. pull oxi to shoot and it hits an invisible wall

[limpid ocean]

I'm try striker with tinkerer and optimist with killer

[cerulean smelt]

thinking wall street? the first area you can take cover behind a crumbling wall and you can shoot you guns through, you aim oxi and it shows properly where you're shooting it but it just hits nothing and drops at your feet bit

[cerulean smelt]

but that does happen too. the oxi pool disappears so you run through and down you go XD

[obtuse crystal]

I meant intentionally

[strong cave]

just stepped foot into dz west, some pour pve soul called extraction. so i went there, he had no idea I was there, flagged, took his loot, extracted his loot. bro gave up. didnt even try to fight for it. went back to white house 😭

[cerulean smelt]

2 or 3 exotic components?

[strong cave]

i was wearing squishy umbra dude had a chance 😭

[strong cave]

none. but i did snag a butt load of dz creds

[cerulean smelt]

maybe the pour soul was hunting for Yaahl chest piece

[strong cave]

😂

[obtuse crystal]

For what reason would you want that

[cerulean smelt]

you know the pts before this one i did the chest brand crafting hoping for any ceska with obliterate, did get a bunch of yaahl chest pieces lol

[cerulean smelt]

because youtubers say you need it for their godly backfire no bleed build

[obtuse crystal]

But like bleed

The only yaahl i want is a crit red core hollow man

[cerulean smelt]

like these 2?

[obtuse crystal]

Yeah

[cerulean smelt]

pretty sure i crafted both of mine

[obtuse crystal]

I ain’t playing descent

[strong cave]

I feel like you bought that hollow man mask from the countdown vendor a few weeks back

[cerulean smelt]

chc one? it's possible

[strong cave]

yes. that exact one was on sale a few weeks back

[cerulean smelt]

hell, both could've been bought by a vendor far as i know

[broken cradle]

Can I get a rate on my current striker coyote mask AR build? I need tips on getting my stats up. Thanks Agents

[obtuse crystal]

meta/10

[broken cradle]

What does that mean?

[obtuse crystal]

best way to get better rolls is to farm in countdown

tired and didnt read the message

[meager fog]

Replace close and personal (not a great talent for a squishy build)

[broken cradle]

Sadly no one ever does cd with ne

Squishy build?

[meager fog]

You have no armour, and 10% AOK only. You shouldn't be close enough to the enemies to use close and personal in the first place.

iirc, that requires you to be within 7m of enemies. With a full red striker that would normally be a death sentence

[obtuse crystal]

matchmake on challenging i usually find lobbies instantly

[meager fog]

For a secondary weapon on Striker, something like Preservation is a good choice, can regen plenty of armour in tight situations and in a group you'll likely get buffed with damage anyway

[cerulean smelt]

@broken cradle aside you're asking for pointers for more damage. by going by this picture the 2nd weapon even if you don't use it at all, just screams that you may use it for your "OH SHIT!" button kind of deal

[solar sable]

the "OH SHIT!" button saves lives

100% would carry a tac vector/smg 9 instead

[broken cradle]

Ok thanks I'll change it to vector

[meager fog]

I have SMG9 with killer on it.

For solo play I use Lexington with Preservation as primary.

[broken cradle]

@meager fog just changed it to your suggestions

So Lexington primary, vector as second?

And no I know I don't have armour, trust me I know I keep getting one shot to death

[meager fog]

Makes no difference which is where, as long as you know which you're using and when 🙂

[broken cradle]

I swear if it weren't you guys on discord my head wouldnt be on my shoulders?

[meager fog]

Give me a second to load up the game, i'll show you my solo build that I use when I want to relax more

[broken cradle]

Om

[meager fog]

A strikers build, but with a bit more meat about it

[broken cradle]

@meager fog ok

[meager fog]

@broken cradle I mostly run full red, but if i'm feeling lazy i'll stick this on and it's much more chilled.

As long as you're collecting the memento trophies, and using the Lexington to regen armour you're pretty much unkillable.

[broken cradle]

How'd you get blue loadout?

[meager fog]

Colourblind options (No i'm not colourblind it just looks better)

[tired falcon]

I'd like to know how people can run a Future Initiative loadout in countdown and not get killed; asking for a friend 😛

[cerulean smelt]

doesn't that also make seeing the hive boundies a little bit better?

[meager fog]

Couldn't tell you, added bonus if it does, the literal only reason I did it was because I thought it looked better. I dislike the green colour 😛

Green should be lowest ranked equipment, after basic (grey).... 😉

[cerulean smelt]

i don't blame you, really should've been blue in general since we do get green gear while leveling so it feels confusing to have it for gear sets as well

[magic pilot]

Yea

[meager fog]

grey, green, blue, purple, yellow, red. The natural order of looter games lol

[rain kite]

Have 2 braincells who are able to work together, thank me later.

[broken cradle]

@meager fog so there isnt any orange or red or blue loadout gear?

[magic pilot]

Red would be exotic

[broken cradle]

That much I know

[onyx sage]

red is just exotic, blue is mostly green that's blue because of colorblind setting

[magic pilot]

Blue/ green is gearsets or the lower quality blue gear

[onyx sage]

orange also probably due to colorblind from yellow

[magic pilot]

One of them does make it look orange

Like the key drops you get in missions, or the rockets in IH

[hexed steppe]

if it aint red, yellow/orange , green/purple then it doesnt matter and should be decon, js

[onyx sage]

tidal full group...

[hexed steppe]

you have a group?

carry me grandson

[onyx sage]

nah i saw you were in tidal earlier

[hexed steppe]

just prio

aka mortar carry

[onyx sage]

i can get on tonight

[hexed steppe]

i should be around. they only call me out till 9, not after unless its a major outage

[stark flicker]

By playing really well and using non-roaming healing skills I use chem and emp sticky

Could I use a cluster spam build for leggo floor 10 farm?

[hexed steppe]

whats the point of an fi using cc skill. just go full ep and let your team dominate

dont need heals when all npcs are stuck or dead

[gentle lichen]

Don't forget your 100% disrupt resist 👍

[hexed steppe]

yes that too

[stark flicker]

The group I run with doesn't deal enough dps to stay alive without a dedicated healer

[gentle lichen]

Red fi can be of help tbh

[hexed steppe]

need better group, or better direction then

[stark flicker]

Also can I slot bighorn into a standard elmo striker coyote build or do I need to build it different?

[gentle lichen]

Crits are your biggest problem

You'll barely get to 100% chd along with +50% chc

[hexed steppe]

the only place i really see healer worth is in leg. but not in cd. jmho tho

[gentle lichen]

I'd recommend going full headshot and only running it in content that usually has heads

[stark flicker]

Should I hard focus hsd and run headhunter?

[gentle lichen]

Huh?

[hexed steppe]

glass/hsd/striker

[stark flicker]

Ty

[gentle lichen]

That caught me off guard

[stark flicker]

Is sacrifice worth using or should I use a diff high-end chest?

[hexed steppe]

so, yeah. you will want a dedicated build, but should be pretty easy farm

probably worth, hsd focused anyways

[gentle lichen]

It already gives hsd and perf glass

Can't see another competitor

[stark flicker]

Didn't realise prov gave hsd

[patent fossil]

Personally I'd say focus crit on Bighorn build as you're already getting a ton of hsd from the gun and crit will help against enemies that don't have heads

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, 1 pc providence is HSD

[stark flicker]

Also does bighorn keep the same rpm when scoped or does it drop?

[gentle lichen]

Yeth in exchange for damage

[cerulean smelt]

drops significantly

[gentle lichen]

Becomes a rifle basically

[stark flicker]

Alr one last thing

I don't see any legendary builds on the spreadsheet and youtube is god awful for finding actually good builds so what's smth easy to farm I can use to farm summit floor 10?

[patent fossil]

Many of the builds on the spreadsheet are good for legendary, striker or nego are probably the best place to start. Drone turret if you want the slow but brainless approach.

[meager fog]

Red Striker works fine in legendary. JUst need something to take the aggro off you (Decoy/Drone/Turret) and learn where to position

[stark flicker]

Tysm

[magic pilot]

Out rn

[dreamy valve]

Hmm that reminds me to try out a red measured assembly build for legendary

[hexed steppe]

idk, doesnt sound like enough blue cores to survive

[dreamy valve]

With exodus gloves

[hexed steppe]

-# ill see myself out

[onyx sage]

i can't live in legendary without 2m armor

[dreamy valve]

Sometimes, you just get bored being invincible. Gotta let some mortals know you can bleed to give them a sense of false security

[onyx sage]

i too employ reverse psychology tactics

[subtle bluff]

BH isn't worth running unless with a full HSD build but then it sucks against things that don't have heads.
Running it with crit required you to stats a lot into CHC since it has none.

[stark flicker]

Can bh work in a headhunter build or is it too gimicky?

[cerulean smelt]

probably can work, just not as well as using a rifle or MMR

[obtuse crystal]

Honestly probably in semi auto but not worth tbh just use a 1886 instead of it tho

[cerulean smelt]

i honestly wish we'd get a differnt reload animation for it though

[limpid ocean]

What should my crit rate and dmg be with tinkerer hb/striker

[cerulean smelt]

crit chance max is 60% so 50-55% is fine honestly, not sure damage wise but i think people mentioned something like double what you have for crit damage minimum?

[opaque crown]

Can anyone help me with Gadgets and specializations and maybe even builds?

[cerulean smelt]

skills and specializations is more of a personal preference thing really

[patent fossil]

Check the pinned spreadsheet for a whole selection of good build guides

[limpid ocean]

For hb I got 59.9 CRIT chance and 105.5 dmg. With striker I got 60.6 chance and 115 dmg

[obtuse crystal]

Is watch done?

[opaque crown]

I don’t want a build

Not really anyway

[cerulean smelt]

so trolling us?
#td2-build-advice message

[meager fog]

you LITERALLY just asked for help with builds

[patent fossil]

The build guides include suggest suitable skills and specialisations, since different ones match to different builds, so the guides will answer all your requests

[opaque crown]

“Maybe even builds”

Mainly Gadgets and specializations vro

[hazy steeple]

@opaque crown That's enough with the trolling, this is moving towards an actual warning.

[meager fog]

Please stop tagging me.

[solar sable]

well, those are up to personal preference

or build purpose

[hazy steeple]

Mostly the latter for sure.

e.g. you wouldn't use a shield on an MMR setup.

[opaque crown]

I wanted the technicians specialization but idk

[solar sable]

read its bonuses and what they do, then think of what content you want to be able to run and if it fits your needs

if it doesn't then try another one

[opaque crown]

I mean by the sounds of it it does would kinda fit me

[hazy steeple]

The Spec Trees are very much focused around the bonuses you get, e.g. Technician's free Skill Tier is the main selling point.

[opaque crown]

Yep we know

Thats why I’m looking at it

[hazy steeple]

You have asked the same question at least 5 times now, I'm not sure you do.

[spare harness]

How does all this look?

[gentle lichen]

p good

u could throw an extra chc mod to push closer to 60% since you already have so much chd from killer but 50%+ is good regardless

[spare harness]

Im sittin at 57 now ill give it a shot, it def feels good

[meager fog]

remember once the season ends, you'll lose CHC. Be sure to test without modifiers on

[spare harness]

True!

Im sitting at 51 again 😭 so i think ill be okay for right now thankfully

[meager fog]

That's why Coyotes is BiS 😛

[cerulean smelt]

even if you want, put more chance on gear, change the measured to strained you'd get a bit more chd in the end

[spare harness]

well i have tink on right now but ill prob be swapping to that in groups its so yummy ( mb if that pinged, discord reset settings on that for whatever reason )

[spare harness]

i didnt even think of that, ill def try that too actually

[meager fog]

Tinkerer works better in groups tbh, others will likely be wearing a coyotes to buff you

[cerulean smelt]

well, the modifiers only adds some of your chance to damage and 1 lets you go higher than 60%

[meager fog]

Modifiers give extra crit chance based on red cores.

You lose 6% CHC when you turn it off

[cerulean smelt]

10% if you hit tier 5 from the looks of it?

my mind only thought of this honestly lol

[meager fog]

At base (inside a safe house) you gain 1% per red core. So when checking your stats, you'll see a 6% increase in crit chance compared to having them off

[subtle bluff]

in 2 day new modifiers.

[cerulean smelt]

3 isn't it?

today, tomorrow, monday?

[gentle lichen]

its on tuesday reset soo

[subtle bluff]

2 and 1/2

[cerulean smelt]

true, but whos seriously counting? (> <)

[gentle lichen]

thats me clicking on a pen like kingpin waiting for next season

[cerulean smelt]

oh trust me, i'm counting myself XD

[onyx sage]

the good thing is when next season starts zoo will be weekly leg

[subtle bluff]

Here's the meta idea. Talents are all powerful but there only powerful if there uptime is high.

[ivory compass]

recommended skills to use with hard wired?

[cerulean smelt]

people usually use any hive, i use revive so i dont' mess up the order and cluster mines

[subtle bluff]

depends what you're trying todo with it.

[ivory compass]

trying to get dmg in while not having to think about using and cancelling the skills too much

[subtle bluff]

with HW there's no really good way other than cancelling or pickup to drop again skills.

[gentle lichen]

Most brainless way to play hardwired i'd say is bulwark shield and seeker mine
-# can't quote how effective it is in pve tho

[ivory compass]

idk ive been doing seeker and drone just cuz theyre generally my fav skills but i dont think im really getting that good of a use in with drone

[subtle bluff]

is solo HW is slow imo

[gloomy spruce]

I have run hard wired with a jammer and stinger hive. The stinger hive can be placed near you and then picked up. If you have 6 yellow cores, then you can use the BTSU's to get the charges back quick. I often like the combo vs drone swarms in summit.

Another combo is the same idea with seekers and a hive.

Just placing the hive counts as deploying a skill and you can pick it right back up and get a free refresh.

[cerulean smelt]

the deploying hive trick is you double tap the skill for it so you just drop it at your agent's feet and you hold the same key to pick it back up

[gloomy spruce]

yeah

[ivory compass]

oooh sounds interesting ill try this

[subtle bluff]

or use "Instant use skill" keybind.

[gentle lichen]

Huh? So you don't need to bind instant use to do that?

[cerulean smelt]

so you throw seeker mine out. watch the seekers go on cool down. double tap the hive skill and watch your seeker cool down go into like 10 seconds from 30 or 40 or whatever it is

which is why i said revive hive so you don't mess up the order of it. any hive and shield does work but if your hive goes on cool down you might get that back instantly and be waiting on your seeker or main skill you want to use it for

[subtle bluff]

You could just use a turret too..

[gloomy spruce]

That is why I like the stinger as area denial when solo with the btsu data gloves. The charges comeback super quick at tier 6.

You don't even need all charges to redeploy either.

[cerulean smelt]

oh i know, i just don't like the long btsu gloves cooldown for that XD

[gloomy spruce]

?

[gloomy spruce]

That only applies to the allies.

[cerulean smelt]

you are an ally

[gloomy spruce]

Also if you don't break the hive and just pick it back up, the charges comeback super quick.

[cerulean smelt]

that's pretty long if you ask me

not sure how long its' been but it only filled up this much

pretty close to the 2 minute marker

[gloomy spruce]

I am not talking about breaking the hive for the instant refresh. I am talking about deploying it and then letting it rapid refresh.

I think we got our wires crossed.

[cerulean smelt]

well, this is what i was talking about with my BTSU comment. i dont like that long cool down to Overcharge it XD

[ivory compass]

oh god is this what a good build looks like i am basically firing a mortar at the outcasts

[cerulean smelt]

look at @hexed steppe 's profile and his spreadsheet. he's got a nice mortar supremecy build in there

[gloomy spruce]

@hexed steppe is good with the skill builds.

He gave me a great meme decoy build. 🙂

[hexed steppe]

😎

Mortar is 😍 , mortar is life.
-# Mortar Supremacy

[gentle lichen]

I'd love to introduce you to conflict mortar builds too

[cerulean smelt]

i got a mortar build but it's completely different from locals XD

[broken cradle]

Finally ran countdown a cpl times damn it's fun with a group

[shell bluff]

returning player that apparently never had a build before i stopped playing a couple years ago. did some lookin around and found a heartbreaker build i like. is heartbreaker still a solid endgame build?

[buoyant perch]

sadly no, it's a solid heroic build that falls off on legendary

[shell bluff]

rip. guess ill still roll with it to farm heroic while i figure out legendary build

[violet juniper]

Uh... You sure?

[subtle bluff]

uhh?

Yes and no.

Strikers is viable at all content in the game.

[cerulean smelt]

if you look at it though. Heartbreaker is Striker Div 1 but just altered for pulsing and getting bonus armor

[shell bluff]

im guessing the st elmo striker build is the meta for pve end game?

[meager fog]

Yep

[hexed steppe]

its 1 , there are a few that can do well depending on the situation. headhunters fury is also up towards the top. heartbreaker/ongoing directive/nego are all notable top tier dps

something like nego can outdamage striker if you have a lot of targets to utilize its damage transfer talent

[rapid arrow]

Yes. I got haz and bleed res. Plus with umbra if I get super low I just need to get into cover + the passive regen with memento

[rapid arrow]

W dmg but L survivability. On harder missions bro I be getting melted im ngl 😹

[rapid arrow]

Bruh so what if I forgot I posted it my bad ig 😭

[rapid arrow]

Just experimenting it's kinda fun it's just tedious to keep building the stacks

[shy willow]

With the DPS meta your skill is your survivability

[hazy steeple]

Even just knowing how+where to stand will increase your survivability by a crazy high factor.

You barely need a shield anymore.

[limpid ocean]

Dta or cc on lmg

[hexed steppe]

Chc, or rof

[rapid arrow]

I'm not good.

So all that goes out the window ig

[opaque crown]

Can i pare Striker with Technician

[obtuse crystal]

theres nothing stopping you not what i would do tho

[scenic whale]

For the sniper set ups are there any major fall offs for running a 4th hot shot piece over Foxes? Been wanting to try out the hot shot set bonus

[solar sable]

not really, you just don't get that penalty for missing shots like with the 4th hotshot pc bonus

try them out anyways

[scenic whale]

Sounds good,been wanting variety since I tried dread edict and the bonus armor and free reload was really nice

But I didn’t like how Dread lost headhunter stacks on anything slightly beefy

[hazy steeple]

@opaque crown Absolutely, especially if you go for a flatline setup.

check out how the bonuses work, and what they work best with. A lot of stuff works with Striker, so you have a fair bit of leeway.

[opaque crown]

I might have been catfished actually

Since the video i watched had a different effect than the striker in game

It doesn’t give me back my armor

[hazy steeple]

That's div1.

although you can get armour back from kills, if you pair it with Gunner or other "armour on kill" bonuses.

Like I said: loads of options.

[opaque crown]

Damn

[broken cradle]

Armour is currently 726.0k, striker coyote mask AR build with ceska obliterate, st Elmo's engine and Lexington with passive. Any tips on getting my stats up and armour especially? Primary damage 94.7

[hazy steeple]

How do you find building stacks consistently quickly is, with using 2 AR's?

[broken cradle]

@hazy steeple to your point, I thought you can't add blue core armour on kill to a red core build?

@hazy steeple it takes a while tbh

[onyx sage]

gunner gives you armor on kill

[broken cradle]

I am on Gunner yes

[onyx sage]

so does palisade brand, or similar with preservation talent

armor on kill doesn't need any blues to be impactful

[broken cradle]

@onyx sage that's what I meant preservation not passive

[hazy steeple]

You need a stacking weapon for striker, or using a primary that fires fast enough that it doesn't matter.

if you're using Lex or elmo as your primary, I highly recommend something to help build stacks, then swap to your primary to kill.

[onyx sage]

preservation is when you want even more, the amount you get from gunner is enough

[broken cradle]

@hazy steeple like a vector say?

[onyx sage]

acs-12 is the usual choice because each pellet counts for stacking

[broken cradle]

Does that help?

[hazy steeple]

the tiny vector can work, or the smg-9.
personal preference (and gives you a bit more wiggle room) is the ACS w/Fast Hands.

Rock+Roll is an option, but the increased mag size isn't that useful, and you lose out on Fast Hands.

what average' said, each pellet counts by a crazy amount, so each time you fire a shot and get all pellets on an enemy, that's 8 full stacks.

[broken cradle]

Ok ok 👌 noted 😃

[hazy steeple]

obligatory: a full mag won't get you to max stacks, but your Elmo or Lex fires fast enough to polish that off.

(since 8x20 is 160).

[broken cradle]

👍

[hazy steeple]

ohandifyoureusinggunneryoumightaswelluseBansheePulse.
okay im done.

[onyx sage]

hi done

[broken cradle]

Lol 😂

As for the build itself, done lol what's your opinion?

[hazy steeple]

You have officially hugged the meta, you can now (with a bit of practice) handle pretty much anything that PvE in div2 throws your way.
the only time it won't be full on perfect, is if you're fighting in a situation where you have enemies with crazy high HP pools (incursion/raids/legendary), and are able to keep your stacks up.
in that case, swap the ceska chest out for strikers, and use ceska in whatever slot is free.

[broken cradle]

Wish I could say that in terms of armour, I'm getting destroyed by literally everything. But thats because it's so low

[hazy steeple]

Even if you had 6 blue cores and a rabbits foot stapled to your face, the enemies will still wreck you if you stand out in the open.

[broken cradle]

I keep extra striker gear in my inventory for every run just in case I do need to switch

[hazy steeple]

div2 is very much not a game designed around tanking, even with a build dedicated to it.

[broken cradle]

That's sad

I've seen rogues in dz tanks

[hazy steeple]

PvP and PvE builds rarely translate directly.

what works in one almost never works in the other, basically.

e.g. the meta in PvP right now is armour regen, in PvE, armour regen is basically unseen.

you know the phrase "the best defence is a good offence"? That's PvE in div2.

[broken cradle]

I could definitely use armour regen. Would it hurt to add blue core to my build?

[pale crown]

Do hotshot HH builds work in legendary content..?

[broken cradle]

I'm trying to build striker so I can just hard

[onyx sage]

yes if you build it the right way

[pale crown]

i'm thinking 4 piece hotshot with turmoil and chainkiller

[onyx sage]

ditch turmoil, use vigilance backpack, done

[pale crown]

the rile version doesnt do enough damage on first shot

i was thinking turmoil cuz it'll help with cc ?

[broken cradle]

So use striker gear for raids or countdown, etc and ceska obliterate for anything else in other words

[onyx sage]

losing turmoil just solves your problem

[broken cradle]

I am not touching legendary again lol

[onyx sage]

turmoil doesn't help if you can't one-shot even one target

[pale crown]

true

[onyx sage]

and i'm not sure what you mean by cc, if it's crit chance then hh doesn't care about crit

[pale crown]

sorry crowd control

[onyx sage]

well them dying is basically crowd control, but turmoil doesn't really work that well in leg unless you have last season modifiers which is impossible now

[pale crown]

alright thanku

[hazy steeple]

If you do want to refer to crit chance or crit damage in the future, I highly recommend you use "chc" and "chd" respectively, makes it much cleaner.

[pale crown]

yes ik that : )

[hazy steeple]

The game likes to share a lot of terms.

"I need to go to a cp to get a bp for my bp".

[pale crown]

lol

[meager fog]

I already sent you a build yesterday....which works absolutely fine for Solo play when you want to chill out a bit.

[subtle bluff]

It's more the numbers aren't worth it. Look at regen number and the amount armor you and then how much dmg you are taking.

[meager fog]

Its 20% Aok (30% if you kill with headshots), plus a tier 3 shield. It works absolutely fine for chilling on Heroic.

I sent him that because hes been in here for DAYS saying how hes getting "one shot" with a full red build.

I use full red 90% of the time as you know lol

[subtle bluff]

I was just saying about the armor regen stats

[meager fog]

Yeah its not amazing, but it works when I'm being lazy lol

[urban latch]

The armor regen is just q part of memento though. Overall if you want to add survivability it's the single easiest way to, and you don't give up much damage at all to do so

[subtle bluff]

You're up really early?

[urban latch]

I had to pee

[subtle bluff]

lmao

[meager fog]

Getting old lol

[subtle bluff]

Me in 2 days actually

Funny same day as patch

[meager fog]

I do enjoy the tier 3 shield though. Like 4.5m HP on heroic makes it tough as hell

For the record: I didn't recommend he used the build, just gave him an idea to help him survive a bit lol

[subtle bluff]

I never say no to 1 or 2 blue cores while learning when using a shield. It's good way to learn peaking at first.

[broken cradle]

@subtle bluff good to know. (I'm observing your point)

[meager fog]

As opposed to what I literally told you 🤣

[rich lotus]

Just got myself a coyote mask and a ninja backpack in the final journey stage which I completed. The one where you get 4 exotic caches. The ninja backpack comes in really handy 😁

[patent fossil]

It's a bit of a trap actually, decent backpack talents are generally rather stronger than several brand bonuses combined

[rich lotus]

I can imagine. But for now, I’m only shd level 130. It’s fine. Running with 3 striker pieces and 2 Česká pieces. Got some good extra health with the ‘extra’ Česká piece

So I’m still gathering pieces and trying to fill the library.

[patent fossil]

Health is a pretty pointless stat to chase, the meta strikers build for most content involves the strikers backpack, coyotes, and a ceska chest with obliterate, so it sounds like you're not far off

[rich lotus]

Why a ceska chest and not a strikers chest? Striker chest has a talent which gives 200 stacks

[meager fog]

Because you're never hitting 200 stacks and maintaining anything above 120-130 is almost impossible in most content

[rich lotus]

Hmmm, sounds logical. Can’t really tell how much stacks I hit.

[meager fog]

In most content, even maintaining 100 stacks isn't easy. Enemies die far too quick

[patent fossil]

Obliterate with 100 stacks is like having 150 stacks but you get there faster and hold that damage for longer

[rich lotus]

So 3 striker pieces, coyote mask, and 1 ceska chest and a ninja backpack? Is that correct?

[meager fog]

Ditch ninja.

[patent fossil]

No, 4pc striker including bag

[rich lotus]

Check! I will try that

[meager fog]

Strikers bag gives 0.9% damage per stack instead of 0.65%

extra 25% WD

[patent fossil]

All crit stats for the minor stats if you can

[meager fog]

If you're struggling to survive when solo, you can use memento instead of Striker BP without losing too much damage and change Coyotes mask for Strikers

but Ninja BM is just an outright nerf to almost every build

[rich lotus]

Alright. Just when I was happy with that ninja bp 🤣

[meager fog]

as Kettle said, it's whats known as a noob trap. It looks good, until you do the math, then it actually just nerfs your build

It has a place, works very well in PvP

[rich lotus]

Im a returning player. After maybe 2 years not playing. 3 weeks in now. Really having fun again. But the builds takes up so much time. And i really have to figure out what’s good and what I like

[meager fog]

Just farming builds is literally 90% of endgame. Getting better loots, upgrading shit. It's just the entire genre

[rich lotus]

I know. And i like it a lot

And of course, just shooting shit is fun

[meager fog]

Definitely, and it's more fun when they die REALLY quickly 😛

[patent fossil]

In case you're not already aware, there's a spreadsheet pinned in this channel with a bunch of great build guides, if you want to save yourself reinventing the wheel

[rich lotus]

Yes thank you i know. But part of the fun is figuring out new load outs, and what’s fun and works for me

[patent fossil]

Yeah, that's why I said 'if you want' - no harm in exploring your own ideas. Just be aware if you offer suggestions or ask for feedback in this channel you'll likely get pushed in the direction of the established meta, it's often best to clarify early on if that's not what you want, save some frustration.

[rich lotus]

Yeah and thank you for that of course. Because now I will check out that ceska chest piece, and the strikers back pack. And I will look better at all the other stats of a gear piece

[normal condor]

Does anyone have any advice?

[meager fog]

Yes, remove mstrikers chest.

[cerulean smelt]

swap knees to striker
get a ceska chest with obliterate

[normal condor]

Ok is that all?

[cerulean smelt]

pretty much

[normal condor]

What’s the easiest way to get the ceska chest?

[cerulean smelt]

can keep the build for "raid/incursion" as is so don't dismantle the striker chest. though people will say it's not needed because you won't get 200 stacks in a raid/incursion

[cerulean smelt]

the usual TL ceska Countdown Challenging minimum, do heroic if you like, i'm a bit skeptical that heroic is worth it and believe people still check other peoples builds and kick if it's not up to their standards

[obtuse crystal]

Incursion use the chest but you won’t get 200 in most encounters in a raid but could be nice to have to swap to for the few places you can

[normal condor]

Also, any advice for my loadout?

[obtuse crystal]

Wdym

[normal condor]

Should I change it?

[cerulean smelt]

2 of us told you

[normal condor]

I mean my weapons

[obtuse crystal]

That’s why I was confused

[cerulean smelt]

weapons is fine. it's pretty much personal preference really

[obtuse crystal]

Could Be Better off with a he ar imo but it’s your choice tbh

[cerulean smelt]

i for one not a fan of Elmo, but people push that on people as it's standard in their opinion
i hate it because even if you shock an NPC they can glide to another cover and get hunkered down really good so you can't shoot them at all

as for HE AR it's usually Police M4, Famas, F2k and lexington as the highest ones to look for, Carbine 7 if you want a weaker laser beam compared to lexington but probaby just slightly, pretty sure i read the damage on it was nerfed recently?

[meager fog]

Elmo is pretty much BiS.

Massive magazine size coupled with in built CC and innate 15% CHC and CHD AND 10% weapon handling

As well as being an absolute laser of a gun

[hexed steppe]

i wouldnt say bis since a highend ar will do more damage. it is one of the most usable, out of the box options that scores good marks, tho. not to mention for someone early game and possibly not having all mods unlocked, 15%chc 15%chd kinda helps bridge the gaps one ones attachment/attribute availability .

[hexed steppe]

c7 was my goto flatline weapon on alts i didnt have lex on. now they go into the stash, still a solid weapon but lex is all around better for sure.

im guessing caregiver caretaker* is kinda bs weapon since i dont see it mentioned much... any hope for it? had one drop last night...

[magic pilot]

It's pretty good the accuracy is just really bad

[subtle bluff]

It's a starting point. In the end I shouldn't need either of them.

[subtle bluff]

Elmo is just a reliable weapon. The best handing weapon makes it easy to stay on target at any range, then 70rd mag ensures you should be able to burn down any target.

[hazy steeple]

The pre-made nature of it makes it an easy sell as well.

farming out a specific high-end AR, with specific 3rd attribute and/or a specific talent? Or just use an Elmo.

[subtle bluff]

You mean 1 or rng/exo comp rolling.

[hazy steeple]

Ain't no newbie rolling exo comps.

nor should they, for the record.

[subtle bluff]

I think it's one of the few that should.

But also I'm a shill for Iron Lung.

[tulip gulch]

Just got the tinkerer mask and I’m currently rocking strikers with the MK46 with frenzy and measured on another lmg. Besides OD are there any other gear sets yall would recommend for the mask ?

[magic pilot]

OD is the main one, or rifle build

[hexed steppe]

rifle hh pretty good with tinkerer. primary 1886 determined + secondary with rifleman

[tulip gulch]

TY!

[tulip gulch]

Still using lmgs? I looked into it and it sadist and pressure point right ?

[hexed steppe]

same combo (sadist+pp), weapon type is largely preference od but lmg give biggest mag. many liking rifle on od

[subtle bluff]

sadist and killer if you're solo is pretty good too.

[hazy steeple]

@hexed steppe I hope you're happy, I just trawled through the mods on 4 separate characters and managed to scrape together exactly 150% HSD for an OD Rifle build.

[hexed steppe]

Oh no, the tinkerer hh setup is highend.
I think the rifles on od are just crit based

[hazy steeple]

Well that's a countdown wasted.
At least I got a sweet dreams out of it......

[hexed steppe]

Never wasted

[hazy steeple]

Ya know you have too many random parts, when I can straight up make that without a single CD run.

I need to clean my stash.

[cerulean smelt]

nah, you stash is fine. it's bad if that's full and your 4 agents 150 is completely full as well XD

[hazy steeple]

I swear I must div2 in my sleep, because that's the only explanation why I have some of those janky rolls in there.

a lengmo with status and hsd. Why would I ever need that.

[cerulean smelt]

maybe you had a build in mind long ago. Lengmo + Iron Horse with fire sticky?

[subtle bluff]

me too and my mules.

[cerulean smelt]

not sure if you PVP maybe you had a pvp build in mind with hsd?

[hazy steeple]

No and no, I don't bother with Lengmo since OD exists.

[cerulean smelt]

maybe you emptied your inventory quickly for a run and just didnt' go back through it?

[pliant pelican]

how would this mask be towards my HB pulse Carbine 7 build?

[subtle bluff]

Lose a good chunk of DPS

[pliant pelican]

i did finally get my out of cover skill thing on the weapon. only took me 4 coutndowns

just gotta change my talent and i should be good to go. i hope

[pliant pelican]

10/10 response after i get my 3rd tinkerer mask & gives it to em.

[subtle bluff]

Idk what you're going on about in a build advice channel. There's a #td2-general-chat for that stuff.

[cerulean smelt]

fyi: that mask will make the pulse be ready before it falls off, but like mrchow said would lose quite a bit of dps because the 1 pc doesn't provide much but more armor

[pliant pelican]

aw. so keep mask & max optimize it? is strained best options, or is there any other fun AR stuff.

[cerulean smelt]

you can put it on and get you proficient in it if you don't want to do the material donation or mask donation to get your expertise up slowly

[pliant pelican]

oh i dont mind that. mostly thinking if i could add idk Fire or some other mismatch to go with the flatline talent.

[cerulean smelt]

you missed the fire modifier that would've been excellent for (> <)

[pliant pelican]

wot. when was this? - and what if i add idk presversation or however it's called. Armor / hp on kill?

[cerulean smelt]

your damage dips considerably if you go the armor regen route

[pliant pelican]

ah. so Stained and happy days?

[cerulean smelt]

flatline, strained, measured comes to mind

[pliant pelican]

i should give Measured a try, have not done yet.

[cerulean smelt]

i honestly say, just give everything a try honestly and find something that helps you especially if you're mostly solo

[pliant pelican]

im 95% solo unless i do some random heroic missions. not sure what talents solo gamin is go to.

but im assumin some crit based due to flatline needing that?

[cerulean smelt]

crits is just a bit more consistent damage wise
if you want some armor regen slap a memento on your build and collect those trophies after fights. the long buff of it is purely armor regen

[pliant pelican]

if i should get momento i gotta remove my tinkerer mask + gropo backpack

[cerulean smelt]

nods just whatever you decide. was just saying memento has a long buff (collecting trophies within 5 minutes) that gives armor regen

the usual answer people will give "you kill things they can't shoot back" so just need the damage in your build to make that happen

[pliant pelican]

i am currently maxing out HB carbine 7 flatline tinkerer groupo backpack.

[onyx sage]

flatline doesn't require any crit to work, it's just 1.15x on any pulsed target

[normal condor]

What do you guys thinkI is the best specialization?

[pliant pelican]

depends on ur build

[normal condor]

What would go good with this build?

That is part of my build

[urban latch]

What do you mean

[cerulean smelt]

sighs 2 maybe even 3 of us told you what to do......

[urban latch]

Firewall, Gunner, and tech all gave solid reasons to use them. Situaltionally there can be a reason to run all of them

[cerulean smelt]

long long time ago, specialiations was required to wear certain gearsets, but gear 1.0 came along and did away with that
now it's just a personal preference kind of thing. Gunner for the Armor on kill bit and 50 extra magazine for LMG
Demolitionist for i think a 7% chd underbarrrel mod

technician gives you a free skill tier + the artificer hive might make your shield a bit tankier off your hip or back wherever they place it on your agent

hopefully we'll still get a specialization rework and it'll just be "what 4th weapon do you want?" sort of deal (> <)

quick question. did we get any more skill mods? aside the initial roman candle one for was it seekers? pretty sure we gotten one that was more fancier recently didn't we?

[onyx sage]

why did bro leave

[strong cave]

Information overload I'd assume

[cerulean smelt]

or maybe they didn't like our opinion of what they can do with their striker build

[rapid arrow]

I'm too in love with umbra!!!!

[meager fog]

Probably because they asked the same or similar question a dozen times and didn't listen to anything they were told lol

[gentle lichen]

If i don't like your answer i'm out of here

[hexed steppe]

just be mindful of the inconsistent cd buffs. this one had long range buff. also, the modifiers will be changing and active modifier was triggered at the time of recording. umbra is a solid set tho, no doubt

[hexed steppe]

no weapon damage or skill efficiency on long buff anymore?
never underestimate Skill Buckets™ 🪣

[gentle lichen]

Skill tier and efficiency being the only way to increase range of your skills is criminal

[subtle bluff]

Skill range?

[gentle lichen]

-# and expertise too but f that

[gentle lichen]

Radius would be the better term?

[subtle bluff]

Another note, skill tiers and mods are the only things that give radius.

[hexed steppe]

if its for something like heartbreaker, which i think was the discussion around what i replied too, then its gonna be tech class, and shield... might as well have artificer along with the 2 free skilltiers/3 shield tiers. 30% in all skill buckets is nothing to sneeze at when youll be utilizing skill health and skill repair nonstop every 10 seconds

[cerulean smelt]

well, they asked about using Preservation on their gun, so assuming asking that to get some tankiness i just suggested Memento because part of the talent is armor regen

[hexed steppe]

just giving you more selling points , its a beautiful piece

[hexed steppe]

its a shame too. i used to run that on 90% of my dps, grouped or not.. but now its relegated to heartbreaker , or umbra if i run it.

just hard to justify the damage trade off most of the time since positioning fixes a lot of the reasons memento is used

ill tell ya, memento fire eclipse was something else tho.
-# please dont make this. its fun af but
-# not optimal compared to standard setup

[cerulean smelt]

Call me curious 🤔

I may have to give that a whirl

[hexed steppe]

i used to use fire sticky/stinger hive combo. set a spawn on fire, then drop a hive as you pass and it helps get the fire moving. it works well aggressive. burning npcs killed behind spawn doors and inaccessible areas drop trophies directly into the bag 😉

[onyx sage]

it still remains useful for the average player

[subtle bluff]

Can I make clips just have auto replies to his posts that just outshine his non context builds?

[solar prairie]

Thoughts on Classic M44 Carb vs SR1 on a determined hotshot build.

[hexed steppe]

m700 carbon/sr1 almost same and better quality of life, m44/whitedeath/model 700 highest damage potentials. either set will 1shot all the same stuff. personally i go qol

[solar prairie]

SR1 it is then, thanks!

I guess none of the mods matter much, besides from the choice of scope?

[hexed steppe]

they do, tbh. i would use stability muzzle and underbarrel

[subtle bluff]

+5 mag and stability is nice.

[hexed steppe]

between build and mods, if you can hit 100% stability youll have no scope sway while ads

really easy. youll hit 70% just in those 2 mods

[solar prairie]

oh right, stability does prevent sway

I wish they gave the option to scope in and not scope in with the digital scope attached XD

[subtle bluff]

there one that does let you do that but it's only 4x i think

[solar prairie]

Yeah the 3.4x and the optimal range scope

[hexed steppe]

you probably wont need the hsd from the scope if you prefer the option to not scope in

[solar prairie]

Im actually liking this MMR hotshot over the 1886 rifle HSD build

[hexed steppe]

yeah 4pc hotshot is really good qol, helps a lot when using ammo hoarders or pistolero (in other seasons) directives

[solar prairie]

24.2M (SR1) vs 27M( 1886 ) but this SR1 I have does not have any experties level yet, while my 1886 is level25

[hexed steppe]

so i made the striker intimidate memento backfire build and that bonus armor from the modifiers on top of memento keeps intimidate procced like nobodies business 😂

[solar prairie]

I have noticed that too lol

[subtle bluff]

My meme BH HF HSD used it. Been using it on HF more with SMG but yea you can do the same with striker

[solar prairie]

wait so perrfect head hunter gets consumed if you miss the target and hit a wall, while regular head hunter doesnt care? or is this just an MMR thing?

[subtle bluff]

uh?

[hexed steppe]

headhunter cares, determined does not

determined drops when you hit but dont kill, like helmets or cold determined shoots on named npcs

sometimes the generators/skill proxy eat those procs too.

[subtle bluff]

HH stack doesn't get consumed unless it's duration runs out or you hit something does "dmg".

[hexed steppe]

i thought it consumed on miss. maybe im confusing misses with hitting skill proxy. been a minute

[solar prairie]

I must be tripping but idk.

[hushed gorge]

Can I get Emperors Guard from Named Caches?

[solar prairie]

Yes

[subtle bluff]

No. Only Legacy cache.

[solar prairie]

Wait what? I swore i recently got mine from a name cache

[subtle bluff]

Next time use #ask-td2-community this is build channel.

Shouldn't have unless they change the loot pool for it.

[solar prairie]

Then i am not sure how I got it then, by recently i mean just 3-4 days ago, maybe it was from a conflict / dz cache?

[hushed gorge]

can i get it on dz?

[subtle bluff]

yes. GL.

[solar prairie]

I think I see the problem with the hotshot build that im running, sometimes it will only do 20M damage to named, and this is with a fully charged perfect head hunter & determined active, and just shot another dude for 25M prior to the named.

[patent fossil]

Hotshot buff is consumed on miss, neither headhunter nor determined are.

[solar prairie]

I see, that must be the issue.

[subtle bluff]

I was gonna assume hotshot but I don't like assuming. 🙃

[solar prairie]

even with the hotshot buff missing, I still hit 23M on the firing range. Idk why it randomly drops to 20M. Must be some lag or idk, ill see if restarting the client helps. But attribute this to skill issue.

[patent fossil]

Distance drop off maybe?

[subtle bluff]

can we see the build?

[solar prairie]

Hotshot MMR

and this is the rifle build that I was previously using, the rifle build hits\ harder, the only benefit of the MMR hotshot for me is the never need to reload but time inbetween shots is also longer.

and this is for the MMR hotshot with hotshot buff not active:

[strong cave]

Marksman rifles have their damage bonus in the specialization, yes?

And one would argue that type of rifle build won't be worth it if playing with certain directives. At least with hotshot you don't have to worry about ammo. Doing a negligible 3m more than hotshot just means you're doing more damage on a build that already does enough damage by itself... And has more utility by helping your ammo reserves and keeping your mag topped off

It's not to say it's a bad build, that's pretty impressive for what it is. Hotshot just has more utility

[urban latch]

The utility is using 1886 over any MMR. You can move are much more and use a crusader shield with it. As long as your 1 shotting everything, 1886 is far better

[strong cave]

It's pretty good I agree. I'm just seeing issues with it down the road if playing with ammo directive or pistolero

[urban latch]

Roughly speaking, what's your sensitivity at? Like how far in physical distance does your mouse move to spin around and do a 360?

[strong cave]

Would like to point out the SR-1 isn't Best in Slot. White death would hit for near what your rifle build is hitting

Model 700 as well but we all know that's top slot

[solar prairie]

Yes, Im not too worried about the max damage. Its the random damage drop to 20m is whats bothering me.

[solar prairie]

I havent checked. I use 800dpi, 20 exploration sens or whatever its called, 9 ads sens.

[solar prairie]

I have never had any ammo related issues with the 1886, I only use it for fast xp farming CP4. I am aware that SR1 is not BIS. I tried farming for white death and 0 drops in 4 countdown runs. So i just used what I already had in inventory.

[urban latch]

The games sensitivity defaults incredibly high. Would a 360 be like less than an inch of movement, or like 6+ inches?

[strong cave]

I'm pretty sure White Oak and Capital building drops white death

[solar prairie]

That I do not have an answer to as I dont do a double 360 no scope headshot.im using 20 ingame sense.

[solar prairie]

Guaranteed per run?

[strong cave]

Not 100% sure but I see it commonly there

[solar prairie]

So it doesnt drop in CD?

[strong cave]

It should I've gotten it there before too

RNG likely isn't favoring you

[solar prairie]

I never noticed it dropping in capitol, especially me and my friends ran it back to back last night to get them to season 150.

Im honestly okay with sr1

[urban latch]

It's just a relatively common measurement of sensitivity, not some brag on aiming skills. Games in game sensitivity settings aren't universal, plus people run different dpi, so people generally don't reference sensitivity in those terms

[strong cave]

SR-1 ain't bad. I sometimes use the Custom M44 with the mag fed variant for a little variety

[solar prairie]

I understand, how does this help with my issue though?

[urban latch]

It might be an easy way to make a large difference in your accuracy

[solar prairie]

Ah you must have confused me for someone else. I didnt post an accuracy issue.

[urban latch]

Was just responding to this

[solar prairie]

I guess you took it literally. Apologies for the confusion.

Im going to delete that to avoid confusing anyone else.

[hexed steppe]

yes, all the dz locked named items are available in named item caches

[solar prairie]

I tested this now and I hit my keyboard before doing a full 360. I would say im a low sensitivity player.

So yeah about 6+ inches

[urban latch]

You'd be surprised how many people it's like a fraction of an inch and they don't realize that's why they can't aim

[solar prairie]

I think it might be closer to 7 inches. Im using a TKL still hit my keyboard lol

[strong cave]

Is the 5 dollar foot long still a thing?

Tryna get a good deal on an Italian sandwich 🙏 🤌

[solar prairie]

Actually on ADS I need about 14inches to do a full 360, for non ADS its 7.5

[solar prairie]

I have no idea, I not located in the USA.

[hexed steppe]

Determined requires extraordinary ability to aim

[strong cave]

Good ol Subway reference. I think @hexed steppe would get it 😂

[strong cave]

Yes hitting bodies is hard 😞

[hexed steppe]

And no, they charge by the inch now it seems

[strong cave]

Sadly. That's mainly bc they were losing money trying to compete

[solar prairie]

Why do I feel so attacked 🤣

[hexed steppe]

Just speaking from experience. High sense player (1.5-2cm/360) and determined makes me look like a god

[urban latch]

Local would be one of the people I'm talking about lol

[onyx sage]

i need determined to function

[solar prairie]

They should allow us to use the Brutus skin on the normal Model 700

[onyx sage]

#fanart-and-photomode

[hexed steppe]

Yup, please add it there 👆

I'm just lucky 90% of my aiming requires knowing where one will be , not where they currently are
-# Mortar Supremacy

[solar prairie]

I love mortar builds since the game came out, too bad it is nausea inducing to my friends XD

[solar prairie]

What mods do you run with your model 700?

[strong cave]

Holo sight, Spring mod for damage, and then a stability mod I think

If scope is needed I run the 8x scope or so

[rich lotus]

Got myself a Lexington. What should I change about this?

[onyx sage]

the talent, can be anything you want, killer is great for solo play tho

[hoary sail]

only the talent put some u like or do some testing

[hushed gorge]

thank you bro

[cerulean smelt]

they're also in legacy season caches but won't be easier than named caches since the legacy is going through a lot of seasonal gear all at once

[hushed gorge]

and also have to wait for Star events

[hexed steppe]

The only reason I would get legacy caches would be farming system corruption

[hushed gorge]

System Corruption and True Patriot,
Nothing but myth

[cerulean smelt]

wouldn't the occasional Yaahl be worth those as well?

eh, true patriot is easier to farm via Target Loot True Patriot challenging countdown

[hexed steppe]

Nah not yaahl I don't think. That's better bought off the clan vendor anyways 😉

[cerulean smelt]

funnily enough if you got the materials can do that "Brand" crafting option and make them that way. did that on PTS anyways and gotten some yaahl from it

did the chest hoping "ceska chest with chc or chd and obliterate" but gotten quite a bit Yaahl chest pieces lol

[magic pilot]

You can craft purple yaahl for free mats

[hexed steppe]

I'm 999 on yaahl weave

But didn't know that

[cerulean smelt]

oh? didn't know that

[glad heart]

General talent for a D50 pistol (with DTTOOC) for no particular build or use?

[obtuse crystal]

Doesn’t matter

Just swap it to a useful talent when you decide the build for it because it could depend on that build

At most maybe determined for easier headhunting

[glad heart]

Was thinking optimist, for the straight bonus to weapon damage. I don't generally pop heads with it, suppose I could I guess

[hexed steppe]

If its more utility I usually put sledgehammer on pistols.

[magic pilot]

D50 is also really bad atm

[hexed steppe]

686 is better damage. With my rng all my pistols are kard customs

[cerulean smelt]

nodsi wanted a D50 HH once but i got harvest so i'm good on that

oh that reminds me. i should've farmed up another 3 piece immenence 🤔

[onyx sage]

my first zoo solo was with d50 hh lol

[magic pilot]

Before it sucked

[magic pilot]

Your determined clip is d50

[onyx sage]

prodigy asked in the video "no regulus?"

[magic pilot]

No way really?

[onyx sage]

"it's d50 time"

[magic pilot]

Best opening to a clip

[cerulean smelt]

wait a sec. would it be possible 3 pc strikers, 2 immenence NBB? 🤔

[onyx sage]

but why?

[magic pilot]

Damn I was an OG

[onyx sage]

i have really good memory

[magic pilot]

New pistol

[onyx sage]

i know, still

[magic pilot]

Yea idk

[cerulean smelt]

just for fun for me anyways

[hexed steppe]

Still are

Emphasis on the old part

👴

[onyx sage]

old man point and laugh

[cerulean smelt]

but then again, i'd probably resort to a High end tempest build anyways. 3 immenence, 1 d&H and maybe foxs and contractors?

[magic pilot]

Personally this is what I'm going with

[onyx sage]

charge your phone

[cerulean smelt]

looks like a pvp build?

[magic pilot]

I want a brandset that has handling as the 1pc

[magic pilot]

Tech tank

[cerulean smelt]

i wasn't going to use an exotic honestly
i probably would've gone immience holster, chest and backpack. d&h mask (not punch drunk) then contractors and fox's all chc/chd

[hexed steppe]

Not room for it but eagles grasp?

[cerulean smelt]

eh, kind of room for it. drop the fox's and add eagle's grasp gloves?

[magic pilot]

Yea but it's not the same 😪

[hexed steppe]

What part of the handling do you really want/need

[magic pilot]

I just want the option

[frank elk]

Anyone got a good raid defense build ?

[cerulean smelt]

telling Raucey this isn't good?

that's in the Pins. first link Spreadsheet then a hubs tab at the bottom

😹 🤣 😆 @urban latch

[urban latch]

Tbf compton put more effert into his raid tank guide. Mine is pretty general, one tank build to fill all raid roles. His goes into more situational setups that are more effective for each niche

[strong cave]

True patriot build when 😭🤣💀

[cerulean smelt]

tomorrow for Retaltion area clearing (> <)

[strong cave]

I'm so hyped for retaliation

[cerulean smelt]

same same

[subtle bluff]

I hope they buffed the kill squad.

[cerulean smelt]

in what fashion?