td2-build-advice

[magic pilot]

PFE/hazpro/armor regen

[strong cave]

So you basically did the work of 2 people

[magic pilot]

At least yea

[strong cave]

💀 I woulda backed out

[magic pilot]

He got a few revives so not completely useless

[strong cave]

If somebody is gonna be a bullet sponge the least they could do is run foundry, Tardi, and mosquito pistol

Tech tank it as well

[versed summit]

tech tank kinda mid for group content tbh

[magic pilot]

Yea he died a few times trying to revive

[strong cave]

It is but hey with foundry/Tardi/tech/mosquito, at least they're giving bonus armor to the team and at least getting enemy attention and doing something. The build prodigy here is telling us the guy used did basically nothing

[onyx sage]

he did double the work of an average player

[worn elbow]

I use almost the same thing lol but groupo is the holster and use striker backpack

[strong cave]

Sounds like the average division experience

[coral reef]

So are the Turmoil kneepads viable? I slapped them on my ( #td2-build-advice approved) Pesti build, replacing Fox's Prayer and my damage dropped quite a bit, but still kick ass in heroic I think?

[strong cave]

Read the talent

It cuts your damage and instead spreads it to nearby enemies. Basically like Nego if it was half assing its own job

They are way overhyped

[worn imp]

Best farm for Shiny monkey "Axel" backpack? It doesnt drop in CD even with Shiny monkey as targeted loot.

[subtle bluff]

I've had a few drop from CD. RNG is RNG.

[worn imp]

bruh

it seems to have a bad one of that (rng)

[subtle bluff]

It happens

[subtle bluff]

I'll use tumoil on pesti on anything on solo heroic or below you have to keep in mind like fify said your single target DPS is more or less 1/2

[worn imp]

It cant be as good a drop rate as Cherished or the named HG stuff. That shit be bloating up my lootpool bad when i tried to get all red headhunter HG

[subtle bluff]

It's RNG. Not much else to say about it.

[worn imp]

but is the RNG worse or better for certain named gear pieces? (supposing you have their respective brands targeted) ??

[subtle bluff]

When you're focusing on one piece it's gonna feel like ass to do it.

I can't get a white death after 2 CD's.

[worn imp]

is this the case @subtle bluff ??

[subtle bluff]

It's just RNG. There isn't a chance for these base named gear pieces.

[worn imp]

so its all equally likely or what? whats the chance for targeted to drop anyway

[subtle bluff]

some players may have better RNG for different things than others.

[worn imp]

?

[subtle bluff]

We do not have chart for this.

[worn imp]

lol

[subtle bluff]

Nor did the dev give us one

[worn imp]

bruh. did we make our own statistic probabilites?

[subtle bluff]

Yes. Some of us took the time with others to do it.

[worn imp]

know any names?

[subtle bluff]

Like I've already we haven't done it for the new stuff

[worn imp]

if like to inquire to know some numbers and estimations

thats fine. i just wanna know how much of a chance boost targeted loot is

[subtle bluff]

You have to search around for it. I haven't seen or looked at them for over a year now.

[worn imp]

kk

thanks anyway for letting me know they exist

[subtle bluff]

meh they maybe outdated as far as I know.

[worn imp]

But they would have told us if they messed with something as central to the game as targeted loot probability, no??

[subtle bluff]

to be blunt your overthinking this. RNG is RNG and in programing there isn't a true RNG.

[worn imp]

hm okay

[subtle bluff]

A lot has change over 7 years of this game. Dev and Dev teams.

[worn imp]

by all means thanks for your "blunt"ness

[subtle bluff]

I've barely been around of 2 years and seen weird stuff.

[obtuse crystal]

ive been here for a couple months and have as welll

[worn imp]

what u played mainly before those 2 years?

[subtle bluff]

only for the last 2 years.

like 19 months

[worn imp]

No like, what other game did you play before?

[subtle bluff]

a bunch of stuff

no MMO/Loot em shooter .

[worn imp]

@subtle bluff Does the Axel have a blueprint you can get to craft it?

[smoky latch]

Since it's a named item possibly from Descent game mode but not sure if it's already in

[lucid wagon]

Sup everyone, hope yall are having a good Sunday. I was wondering if there are any extended mags for the kingbreaker? This 30 found ain't it lol

[obtuse crystal]

should just be the 7.62 extended mag

[lucid wagon]

I probably have to unlock it huh?

Control points too unlock attachments?

[obtuse crystal]

Lvl 3 or 4

[lucid wagon]

Gotcha I'll try lvl 4 CP. Thank you

[kindred mango]

Level 4 is better than 3 if you can handle it. Two blueprint pools so you get two blueprints instead of one

[hazy steeple]

@kindred mango That's actually not true.

What is happening there, is that Lvl 4 CP's can drop 1 of 2 specific named items (setup/closer), you still only get 1 blueprint from actually completing it.
the setup/closer are dropped even if you already have them on that character, and they're dropped from the chest itself.

[kindred mango]

Hmm interesting

[limpid ocean]

What is a good gear set to use with tinker

[magic pilot]

OD

[limpid ocean]

What weapon type and skills

Or does it not really matter

[hexed steppe]

skills that can apply a a status effect. like emp sticky/jammer/banshee pulse pretty popular for it, any way you can apply a status will work tho

lmg are popular on od because of the bigger mags allowing for more bleed rounds generated. mostly preference tho

[hasty sluice]

setup good or bad for noraml shotgun fury build?

[shy willow]

Not great

It shines on support setups

[magic pilot]

For obliterate/ setup not bad

But intimidate/ ad rush is just so strong

[worn elbow]

I made a build and it says that I got over 90% crit chance where I got 6 crit attribute and 1 weapon mod that only gives 5% crit chance

[violet juniper]

uh, what

[worn elbow]

Ah shi my bad I made a mistake lmao

[worn elbow]

I made a small mistake while making the build lol

I was thinking of making a build with hunter killer chest piece

I made the build and saved the pic but how the hell am I supposed to post the pic like this lmao💀 I’ll post if anyone can see it lmk

[hazy steeple]

This channel has image permissions, the easiest way is to use the snipping-tool built into windows.

[worn elbow]

Idk why it saved the pic like this💀

[hazy steeple]

Like so:

[worn elbow]

I know I can post pics but idk why the dam thing saved like this lol it’s like a dam stick

[worn elbow]

If anyone has any other recommendations for it I’ll appreciate it

[subtle bluff]

on mobile most likely

This is why we're trying to push for buildstation.app but I know we're very much still working on it

[hazy steeple]

firefox has a built in screenshot tool now.

its really good actually

[subtle bluff]

On mobile?

[hazy steeple]

Not from what I can see, but knowing them it's likely not too far away.

[worn elbow]

Ye it’s cuz I’m on mobile

Other build stuff didn’t save the pic like this before idk why it looks like a stick lol

[subtle bluff]

honestly you can just post the build we normally know what's other stats.

[mellow flint]

the haters do be right, this build is fun af

[violet juniper]

The black tusk can just sense you coming with that Imminence gear lol

[grim plank]

is the orobouros still good?

[violet juniper]

Great burst damage, lowest top end damage of all the best SMG's

[grim plank]

u think its better then the tinkerer striker build with LMG?

[violet juniper]

nope

Different kinds of damage though. much better burst damage, much lower sustain damage

[subtle bluff]

That's a load question....

[violet juniper]

But also, dependent on what talents you run, etc. too many variables to make it a basic answer

[grim plank]

KILLER and measured

[subtle bluff]

......

[violet juniper]

LMG build would have much better sustain damage.

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no would be the answer.

Like Grem said too many Variables.

[violet juniper]

Would ouro striker be better on a Thursday compared to my hybrid mortar tank build?

NBB, btw

[subtle bluff]

Uh? No idea.

[hazy steeple]

@worn imp Just post it once in #ask-td2-community, there's no reason to put it in 3 separate channels.

[violet juniper]

I'm just messing lol

[subtle bluff]

On his 4th channel?

[worn imp]

[merry nest]

This all headshot damage and weapon handling?

[mellow flint]

always has been

[viral field]

Any good Lexington builds out there

[urban latch]

It's just an AR. Any build that uses an AR will use the Lex

[obtuse crystal]

Any ar build tbh

Strikers is always a great choice with ars

[rapid arrow]

After 4 days of straight grinding 😹

[obtuse crystal]

Time to throw it in the stash where it belongs

[rapid arrow]

Facts it kinda sucks 💔

[gentle lichen]

Outside of pvp you won't really use it

[candid hamlet]

Quick question: has anyone been able to transfer Streamlined to the Lexington? Streamlined in my AR talent library but it doesn’t show up on the transfer menu for the Lexington.

[violet juniper]

if you have streamlined in your talent library, you can put it on the lexington

[strong cave]

Glad to see you on it 🔥

[strong cave]

cant be no worse than this 😂

[viral field]

Is striker best for assault rifles?

[worn elbow]

It’s best for almost anything

Lmgs smgs

[strong cave]

striker is best for everything except MMRs, rifles, pistols

[viral field]

Best way to get coyote mask

[worn elbow]

Farm countdown with target loot on mask

But you can get vile exotic mask too

Which is not for striker build

[limpid niche]

is centurion's scabbard worth it over coyotes on a lengmo pesti build? any calcs on it anywhere?

[coral reef]

like the experts here say, Coyote is best in slot for Lengmo pesti, otherwise they would also recommend Centurion's

[coral reef]

This is the endgame

[onyx sage]

centurion incentivizes swapping and swapping makes you lose pesti buff anyway so the idea doesn't even work

[hearty owl]

I love Rugged Gloves

@onyx sage make me a build using rugged gloves please

nvm I dont need your help

[onyx sage]

i'm just an average player

[faint niche]

Im trying to make an smg dps with decent armor does anyone have recommendations? (Currently running striker/memento with vertical holster)

[solar sable]

Strikers Memento is strong so is Hunter's Fury.

FYI, armor in this game isn't as great as in other games tbh. Armor here just makes you upgrade from a bullet sponge into a premium bullet sponge. Ever heard of a "Meta Regen Tank Build!"? Well, those are pure garbage, although you can use one or two blue cores at max to keep a high DMG output whilst having a little bit more room to eat some bullets.

My advice is learn how to use your surroundings and learn how to peek corners without taking almost/any dmg at all

[strong cave]

But but but but my lady death armor HF Memento build :(

(surprisingly, I see near 1m crits to the head with it)

[solar sable]

sir I already told you that I'm allergic to blue 😵‍💫

[strong cave]

I run this (yes im fully aware no ceska piece, I like the extra boost to SMG damage)

[solar sable]

I remember my newbie times where my very first build was HF Memento and I didn't have a fkn clue how that worked and decided to call it trash
I mean you can't blame new players for not understanding how a build works 100%

[strong cave]

Or how builds work in general

My first build was Ninjabike, picaros, sacrifice and 3pc striker. All headshot

[solar sable]

hell naw

[strong cave]

Tac vec the main gun

[solar sable]

not even an LMG consumes that much ammo lmao

[rapid arrow]

Omg sniper build with determined is busted for pve

Straight 15 - 25m headshots by hitting the body

[hoary valve]

what would be a good build for legendary?

i ran striker with the chest piece it wasn't that useful but idk what to run

[solar sable]

can hit more with max HH stacks and Vigi active

[hoary valve]

i run ladydeath with striker with memento

not that bad of a build ngl

[rapid arrow]

Awesome!

[limpid ocean]

is there anything I should change. I'm tryna get the attributes up

Was also thinking about using 3 blues

[strong cave]

yeah, ditch that backpack for a ceska backpack instead

and ditch optimist. run killer on that other AR

push near 60 CHC as you can

[hazy steeple]

(and make sure you have the seasonal modifiers off whilst you're checking the crit stats)

[pastel basin]

Omg sameeee

[pastel basin]

31+ million if you fully optimize it

[pastel basin]

Is it a pve solo build?

[violet juniper]

You need Ceska.

[limpid ocean]

Nah it's just a all around PvE build

Ceska over perfect vigilance?

[violet juniper]

absolutely yes

[subtle bluff]

You can do more with a different BP.

[magic pilot]

Swap optimist for killer

Ceska as well

[strong cave]

take airaldi backpack instead

but damn I wish i had that bp... would go good on my 1 shot buddy/lucy build so i can finally take contractor's

[rapid arrow]

41m cap for me with nemesis

[pastel basin]

100%

[hexed steppe]

Double check that you have mods slotted into the mask/bag/chest. Screenshot had all empty

[pastel basin]

Nah, did some testing, Habsburg does more

Did it with the gift too

[onyx sage]

it will do less to helmets which are the real bottleneck anyway

dealing 32mil or more to a human is useless when he dies with 26mil

[pastel basin]

Not really, cause of stuff like legendary and incursion enemies/ enemies beyond heroic

Plus I sort of need the extra damage since I usually boost my friends in control points when they’re on

[onyx sage]

legendary 4 man elite hp is 25.3mil

[pastel basin]

Named?

[onyx sage]

"elite"

[pastel basin]

Yeah but what’s named

[onyx sage]

not known but there isn't like a single named archetype in legendary

but your most common bottleneck in legendary is chunga helmet which is 28mil AND it doesn't take hsd

that's why we recommend airaldi or weapon damage over hsd brands

[pastel basin]

Still, regular heroic named enemies in a full squad don’t get one shotted all the time

[onyx sage]

eh that's just expertise issue

[pastel basin]

With this build it does, it mainly depends on what situation you are

[onyx sage]

i speedrun legendary 4 man so

[pastel basin]

Exactly, different situations

[subtle bluff]

incursion is 20 mill ish for an elite

[onyx sage]

again your real bottleneck is helmet, if you can't one shot heroic named it's not because you have not enough hsd, it's because you have less weapon damage than you should, in the end higher weapon damage is more practical

[onyx sage]

heroic is strictly easier than legendary lol

[pastel basin]

Really? Damn I actually haven’t even tried it 😭

[onyx sage]

again you're overkilling but you're not focusing the correct stat

hsd is only absolutely needed for achilles one shot builds

[hexed steppe]

I wonder what would happen to 90% of those headhunter builds if determined got corrected 🤔

[pastel basin]

Talking about that, I made like every single one needed for raids, but no one on console is ever doing raid speedruns 😭

[onyx sage]

buy pc 👍

[pastel basin]

Too broke 😔

[onyx sage]

raid lobbies galore over here

[pastel basin]

Brooo I want to be on pc lobbies ngl, but I’ve spent way too much time and money on console games

[onyx sage]

you can have both

[pastel basin]

Legit like 20 platinums and over 260+ games

[onyx sage]

unless you can only have space for one

[pastel basin]

Yeah I don’t have space yet

My mom said it was on or the other, maybe when we move out yk

I have a small apartment

[onyx sage]

saving up for a farm

[pastel basin]

HUH?

Like a farm farm?

[onyx sage]

nah i'm jk lol saving up for a house

[pastel basin]

I know it’s overkill but with my version, it’s 57 million, no expertise and almost a maxed out nemesis

[pastel basin]

I’m trying to save up for a car, I just graduated from highschool and got a job, have 4.8 saved up so far

I honestly just like seeing the higher damage numbers tbh, and getting the harder to get builds

Like the backpack I have, except that it doesn’t have handling and instead cc

[subtle bluff]

Left Airaldi | Right Hasburg

[onyx sage]

nice dude

got a life ahead of you still

[pastel basin]

Idk what type of bs this is but for me on 3rd shot and fourth it was always

1. Habsburg
2. Airaldi
3. The gift

Like from most damage

[subtle bluff]

Habsburg and The gift are the same for Dmg wise

No reason they should be different

[pastel basin]

Wait…

did they like buff the providence gearset bonus?

[pastel basin]

I swear it was 10% before

[subtle bluff]

15% pre TU24

[pastel basin]

I swear to god I’m not tripping

wtf

Legit the only reason I got the Habsburg was cause of that extra 3%

wtf

[subtle bluff]

It's never been different

[limpid ocean]

Just putting stuff together before I fully build

[pastel basin]

wtf…

[hexed steppe]

Just noting in case it was a miss. Happens a lot, along with having the right weapons buffed in the spec tree one is using

[pastel basin]

Wait so question

I just did some testing, why does the gift and Habsburg do the same amount of damage in the testing range on their most damage bullets even though the gift legit has perfect vigilance?

Like both with the the main sniper and nemesis

[subtle bluff]

The different between Normal Vigil and P. Vigil is just seconds.

[pastel basin]

Ohhh I didn’t even read that

It’s legit just one second, omg…

Bruh, I’m so dumb

Istg I’m in some parallel dimension because I da thought that Habsburg had 3% more hs than providence

[hoary valve]

any legendary builds

[pastel basin]

Why tf do people like using Habsburg so much in speedrun builds?

Especially since it’s more of a unicorn than the gift

[hexed steppe]

Maybe for 2pc bonus

[hoary valve]

any legendary builds

[subtle bluff]

IE what speedrun?

[subtle bluff]

You do not need to spam this..

[pastel basin]

I’ve seen it in both incursion and DH

[hoary valve]

not spamming if i do it more times

[subtle bluff]

Incurison is only for the first courtyard.

[subtle bluff]

Within of a min of each other...

[hoary valve]

i only said it twic

[pastel basin]

Like the first encounter? Cause I’ve seen some people use it for the oil tanker thing as well, and all instances they use habsburg

[subtle bluff]

Is it that important?

[subtle bluff]

We do not use any more HSD stuff on tanker.

The courtyard section we're stacking HSD actually for DCH.

The rest of the incursion it's not needed

[urban latch]

PSN runs often use determined HHs for tanker

[pastel basin]

Yeah true

[subtle bluff]

Ah.

[pastel basin]

#td2-build-advice message

legit just use any build here and you’re good fr

[subtle bluff]

It's still just Top side running it right?

[urban latch]

Generally top left and right, then two strikers below

[pastel basin]

Yeah

[hexed steppe]

Anyways, check out the build sheet pinned here. You generally see striker dps in legs , with occasional future initiative healers

[urban latch]

Although idk exact run Geico is referring to

[pastel basin]

If you mean top right, and like everyone else is strikers

[subtle bluff]

I mean I get it for controller but power creep says BF is just faster now since it makes up for drone

[pastel basin]

Also try to find some friends to run legendaries with, cause it’s annoying to see people with full on PvP builds in there, at least it happens to me all the time.

[pastel basin]

Bf?

[subtle bluff]

Backfire

[pastel basin]

Is it just straight up striker backfire?

Is it that weird thing you guys do when you reload so you don’t get bleed?

[subtle bluff]

Both Glitch and Glitchless WR are with BF.

[pastel basin]

Is that a macro btw or can you do it in console?

[onyx sage]

ye just reloading

[subtle bluff]

Just shoot and reload to be simple.

[onyx sage]

there's no macro involved. it's just plain reloading

[pastel basin]

No but I’ve seen runs where people don’t get any bleed at all

[subtle bluff]

It's one of those read the talent again.

[strong cave]

Damage is stack dependent I'm pretty sure

[onyx sage]

either you have enough bleed res to not bleed or just use the status diminishing mechanic or get to 100 stacks to not bleed

the latter approach lets you build more crit damage which is better

[subtle bluff]

Not worded the best but in sense it's: Any new stacks on reload

[strong cave]

Doing like 2.7m per crit is so good in the incursion

[onyx sage]

yeah that ending part should've been "per stack gained from the magazine before reloading"

[pastel basin]

So just a build like this would work?

[onyx sage]

yeah. you can choose eagle's grasp over grupo here for more handling too

[subtle bluff]

Gunner too

[onyx sage]

backfire isn't lacking crit

[strong cave]

I'd argue slap on smart cover precision for DTTOC at the arches

[pastel basin]

Yeah I was just about to say that

[strong cave]

Or pulse skill

[pastel basin]

And you also use backfire at the end of arches?

[strong cave]

Well, backfire is for wright and the arches anyways

[pastel basin]

By arches you mean the end right? I’m not sure 😭

[strong cave]

Yes

[pastel basin]

Really 🤔

[strong cave]

Backfire isn't effective if utilizing gate strat

Never done incursion I take it?

[pastel basin]

Is that where you legit just should from a long range and never get bombarded?

[pastel basin]

No I have, like 20x with friends

And like once with people from this server

Never again 😅

[strong cave]

Arch strat is running up to where the bosses are and focus DPS on the bosses with an overcharge healer

Which is why that build is so good

[subtle bluff]

Look in my bio for different levels of run thrus

[pastel basin]

Yeah, we always do that, I just always run this for that strat ngl

Like 2 phases and done

[strong cave]

You'd get more benefit running Precision smart cover with the overcharge DTTOC

Firewall shield won't do much

[pastel basin]

Omg…

Backfire is actually crazy 😭 I never realized that thank you

[strong cave]

Enjoy the crits 🔥

Chow knows incursion a bit too well considering how much of a pain enjoyer he is with it

[pastel basin]

Like 2.1 to the head and 1.8 to the body

[strong cave]

we just barely miss each other...

[pastel basin]

Insane

This might honestly be my new primary build ngl

[strong cave]

I wouldn't recommend it outside of incursion

[pastel basin]

Why not? It’s self sustaining with gunner and you can basically just run and gun with that amount of damage?

I don’t even have any expertise on my backfire yet either

[strong cave]

The bleed. As well as maintaining the stacks

More enemies to shoot you as well which means more incoming damage on your end

[onyx sage]

incursion fights always have targets for you to shoot. other fights, not so much, and they probably end much sooner than you can max backfire stacks

if you don't max backfire stacks and maintain it throughout the fight, it's not worth using

[pastel basin]

Ohhh right, I forgot that they shoot whoever is doing the most amount of damage ngl

[strong cave]

That and what average said

I'm sure he's tried it once before and somebody had to hot swap to Birdies to revive him

[pastel basin]

I used to get so mad at that Before learning that it was intentional

[subtle bluff]

scarier side to that is that I've cleared more than in comibation of all the people in this chat for the last few hours....

[pastel basin]

I thought that the enemies just liked me wayy too much

[strong cave]

More than me for sure. I stopped playing the moment I got Ouroboros over a year ago

I've got less than 100 clears but enough I could easily teach people how to do it

[pastel basin]

Also is it possible to get shield health for all slots of your shield or no?

[strong cave]

I don't think it's possible, no

[pastel basin]

I need to learn how to do the oxidizers for the first encounter fr

[subtle bluff]

x 20 to that.

[strong cave]

I gave up with convincing myself to learn. I'd rather just do it the hard way

[subtle bluff]

Search this channel for the oxi guide it's all there

I'm pretty it's update to date.

[pastel basin]

I diddddd, I legit tried for like an hour and was never able to get the lineups

[subtle bluff]

You can't do it solo

unless you run up and spawn it

[onyx sage]

yeah the barrels don't spawn until you run into the next trigger

[pastel basin]

Oh you have to spawn it…

😭

[onyx sage]

yep. when you see actual enemies is when the turrets spawn. they spawn at the same time, and you also see the aggro on minimap

[limpid ocean]

What are good talebts to for ceska backpack

[subtle bluff]

depends on the build

[limpid ocean]

Heartbreaker with tinkerer

[hexed steppe]

vigilance

[limpid ocean]

Any substitutes. I can't get a good backpack so I would have to sacrifice crit dmg to run vigilance

[hazy steeple]

Just farm Countdown for a new one.

never settle for a subpar gear piece.

[limpid ocean]

Ive been farming all day and im tired of it

[dreamy spruce]

It will come. I believe in you.

[onyx sage]

carry me

[hexed steppe]

where too?

[onyx sage]

zoo

[hexed steppe]

oh gawd 😅

more like the other way around

[onyx sage]

i'm helpless

[hexed steppe]

but ill be your human shield/second decoy if needed

[crystal token]

any determined heads in here

should be a good enough piece while hunting the unicorn right

[shy willow]

Yea

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no. Chainkiller is still better.

[crystal token]

isn't 2pc habs better

[subtle bluff]

Hunting for these unicorns aren’t really worth it unless your trying to speed runs or doing hare challenges.

[subtle bluff]

Only if you have 2pcs of them.

[subtle bluff]

Even then unless your exp on your MMR is like +20-25 isn’t will make your 2nd HH not as strong

[crystal token]

yes I'm trying to speedrun leveling tbh

[subtle bluff]

Okies.

Just want to make sure.

I have Hapsburg pcs too but I don’t use it much.

[crystal token]

Yeah it's not really a big boost it seems but eh

[meager fog]

Boy are you in for a shock 🤣🤣 thats literally the purpose of the game

[subtle bluff]

You gain some dmg but then lose the quicker HH stacks builds

If you’re always landing HS and not worried about using it on a helmet, dog or tank.

Test the numbers for yourself and both on White Death and M700

[meager fog]

Kind of silly that killing hounds and tanks procs determined but not HH

[urban latch]

Determined is silly

[meager fog]

It is silly, but they're allowed to fix it because people cried last time 😅

[crystal token]

I can't wait to grab Shroud next season for funny numbers

[subtle bluff]

But we do funny numbers now!

[mellow flint]

when i get hit with the guava juice of death

[livid mesa]

Last time I remember accidentally doing that, I didn't know it'd stack in chem launcher, in short resumes the poor guy got obliterated by chemicals

[livid mesa]

I'd recommend to torture yourself over for the chain killer, it's painful but it pays off greatly

[warm oyster]

Can someone send me a good pve dmg Build pls ?

[livid mesa]

The spreadsheet has some builds in it

I recommend to see some of them and modify on how you please

[subtle bluff]

Check the Pinned Messages

[terse scroll]

are there any good builds with Bullet King? It feels like there should be something since you can just be constantly shooting most of the time

[strong cave]

Striker would be about all that's viable with it. The damage on bullet king kinda sucks

Makes sense tho considering that it fires infinitely (until you run out of ammo)

[red island]

whats the cap for pfe ?

[obtuse crystal]

80%

[coral reef]

Negotiator's Dilemma. Use the chestpiece to have 5 enemies marked at the same time, crits for all and endless bullets

[coral reef]

I mean this is for fun, its not meta or game breaking or anything

[strong cave]

Good clarification 👌 if anybody took this 100% serious they likely would've had a meltdown

[onyx sage]

🤬

[shy willow]

🔨

[faint mortar]

Thinking of making a backfire with ridgeway setup anyone have experience with this in legendary content?

[onyx sage]

it's not worth using in legendary

[faint mortar]

I’ve been using strikers mostly blue core and momento and it’s been workin rather well lol

[onyx sage]

just keep to that

[faint mortar]

Gotcha so right now my damage per shot is around 1.3-1.5 with full rev up thinkin how I could increase this with out losing to much survivability

[subtle bluff]

Remember it's not just damage per bullet but your dps. Rpm is a thing.

[magic pilot]

You really don't need to worry about survivability as much as learning the positioning and spawns for legendary

[meager fog]

Glass Cannon on lego, man loves to sweat 🤣

[magic pilot]

Just play tall cover and I don't get shot either way

I've ran this before with sacrifice and gift

[meager fog]

I haven't used GC on lego tbf, I don't think my heart could take that much adrenaline lol

[magic pilot]

Tbh it's not any noticeable different to running full red

[meager fog]

I suppose decoy helps alot too...I really should start running it and move away from revive hive

[subtle bluff]

It really helps in bad situations or getting into/next positions.

[hexed steppe]

can run decoy and revive

[meager fog]

Ideally I want to stop using revive, it's too much of a crutch and leads to me making stupid decisions sometimes lol

[hexed steppe]

run emp sticky+decoy... or better emp sticky+jammer/banshee

[meager fog]

I'll try some other stuff in place of revive tonight when we run some legendary.

Tbh, I've also not really been using the revive hive much recently either so it's kind of a wasted slot.

[hexed steppe]

emp sticky is goated in legs

that quick deploy dont miss.. unless youre bad

[magic pilot]

It's super nice to disable chungas if you don't have good cover and it staggers

Also pro tip: chunga backpack is based on line of sight

[solar sable]

fun fact: dump your mag on that chunga booty

[magic pilot]

If we have a good headhunter I'll break helmets sometimes while I'm playing striker

[glad heart]

Chunga not greatest threat: Chain, chain um again... chain > backpack... fold

[magic pilot]

Can't always hit the chain+ doesn't disable backpack

[glad heart]

I must be good at chaining then, not much else but that works 90% of the time

[magic pilot]

I'm talking specifically on legendary when the backpack deals dmg

[glad heart]

So am I

[magic pilot]

I think you are missing the point here

If you emp chunga you don't need to break the chain at all

It's staggers long enough to kill it if you are accurate

[glad heart]

I am sure it does, without a doubt. I don't use emp, sticky what have you. I use range. the backpack can't hurt you unless you are too close. Heck I can make a chunga run away, done more than once. Deploying a emp, or sticky takes valuable seconds that could be better used shooting drone controllers, which I consider a greater threat (even though emp pulse will take down the drones) rushers etc. Everyone is different. I do run banshee pulse.

[meager fog]

Yup, works 👍 #ask-td2-community message

[magic pilot]

Deploying an emp sticky takes literally less than half a second

Seconds to shoot a sticky seems like a skill issue

Considering banshee pulse has a least double the time to deploy

[meager fog]

I'm going to be sad to take off this chest next season...that small buff to WH has been nice.

Is there anything in the new season modifiers that buffs crit chance?

[worn imp]

Heyo there to anyone who wants to give build advice (@subtle bluff especially). Could this build work for non-black tusk legendaries? every 30 seconds, perfect energize allows me to get +1 skill tier. That allows me effectively to be unkillable with a downtime of only 15 seconds. If I run the season modifer that regens healing kits every time i reach Stamina Tier 5 (I:E every time I use the Security link), then I wont have any problems running out procs for perfect energize. Thoughts?

[meager fog]

All legendaries are White Tusk

[worn imp]

oh okay. Could it work still u think?

[magic pilot]

with the modifiers a lot more works

but i wouldnt build around them personally

[meager fog]

Issue is the modifiers change next week

So anything you make that works now, won't work again

or, may work differently.

If you're going to build with the seaosnal modifiers in mind, I would look at next seasons modifiers and build for those.

But as Mortar said, it's not good practise to build for modifiers.

[worn imp]

fine then ignore the modifiers. Thoughts on this instead?

[meager fog]

Personally I don't recommend blue cores or using Memento on legendary, unless it's specifically a regen build.

The extra armour from 2 blue cores isn't going to help, at all. It's at most an extra hit.

And you're not really going to be running around collecting trophies in legendary

[worn imp]

the shield gets stronger. and for every dude i kill and run over i get 20% bonus armor

[worn imp]

I wanna do an aggressive build for legendary

[subtle bluff]

Dorky got this.

[worn imp]

like a rusher build

[subtle bluff]

Like the only one of those is HHF.

[meager fog]

Not a good idea, for MANY reasons

[worn imp]

what is hhf

hunters fury?

[grizzled garnet]

Head Hunters Fury

[worn imp]

wtf

[meager fog]

Using HH and HF with a Shotgun basically

[grizzled garnet]

A mashup build with using a headhunter on a hunters fury buold for shotguns

[worn imp]

Shotgun headhunter? ive done that before lmfao

[grizzled garnet]

It works but requires skill

[worn imp]

cant i make a build for using chatterbox. its my fav exotic

[meager fog]

Thats the only form of aggro build that's going to work on Lego....and it's a hell of a gamble

[meager fog]

Chatterbox is eh even on Heroic, on lego it's just straight bad

[worn imp]

best smg then for lego?

[meager fog]

Smg-9 is one of the best SMGs

[tawdry raven]

Best lmg for measured/frenzy tinkerer?

[meager fog]

M249, or IWI

[meager fog]

Just an FYI, I love SMGS too, but on Legendary they do tend to be more a secondary for ending an enemy quickly under pressure as oppposed to a primary

Thats what I run with

[errant hornet]

Does pestilence always drop with the same attribute?

[meager fog]

No, the third can be random on most (if not all) exotic weapons

[worn imp]

if you take the fire rate of the chatterbox , multiply that 1.15 to account for striker RoF increase.Now suppose u have only 2 enemies near you with it, according to my calculation you will get 1527 in fire rate. Isnt that nuts?

[errant hornet]

Ah ty. Just getting screwed 3 straight with swap speed

[worn imp]

How would that look?

@meager fog do you know how to make a HHF build for legendaries?

[subtle bluff]

I did some math numbers for OD tinkerer.

[subtle bluff]

The issue with chatterbox for leggo is it doesn't have enough Mag dmg to kill a ad.

[worn imp]

Wtf why DH backpack?

[subtle bluff]

Like it does but says if you have 95% accuracy

[meager fog]

Pistol Damage, Regulus go boom

[magic pilot]

striker rof is off the base

[worn imp]

is there any SMG you would recommend for leggo?

[worn imp]

Why tho? dont you want something good for shotties, like ceska?

[magic pilot]

to main? not really @urban latch had some luck running the exotic mp7 if you play aggressive enough

[meager fog]

You're looking for heads, not crits.

[worn imp]

then why not another walker and harris for the shotties?

are u using regulus to proc it?

[meager fog]

Ask @urban latch they made the guide, and i'd trust their judgement over mine lol

[magic pilot]

the DH version mainly uses reg, if you want to use shotgun and reg just go providence

for legendary the DH makes a huge difference for reg since it tends to struggle in group legendary scaling

and you dont lose a lot by not running providence since the shotgun can still easily break helmets+ hsd does not apply to chunga helmet

[worn imp]

Why those 2 shotties and not a KSG with 12 shells? It baaaarely does less dmg

[magic pilot]

accuracy

[meager fog]

M870 is the best shotgun in the game. It's basically a shelled rifle

[worn imp]

they are the most accurate? more than ksg?

[worn imp]

is the difference that huge? damn didnt know

[urban latch]

its primarily a pistol/regulus build. The shotguns are mainly for quicly taking out dogs and chungas. With HH stacks you'll have way more damage than you need with the shotguns

[magic pilot]

m870 is second only to spas in dmg, and the spas only has a tube mod slot

[urban latch]

Memento is another backpack option for that build, especially for legendary

[worn imp]

Which verison? Custom or normal?

[urban latch]

doesnt matter, they are basically the same

[magic pilot]

military is the only one thats noticeably different as it has the low reflex sight for more headshot. but it doesnt make a noticeable difference in practice

[worn imp]

Do i wanna go way over 150% headshot damage or cant i just run crit chance on all the other mods as long as I have at least 150% HS damage?

[meager fog]

You don't need crit at all

[worn imp]

yeah but why not man

[meager fog]

heads go pop

Because you're mixing two different build styles and losing out on both

[worn imp]

ive heard that headshot damage is calculated differently and is therefore less effective than normal damage multiplication

[patent fossil]

that's not true unless you're talking specifically about the fact it stacks additively with crit damage

[worn imp]

oh? i see

[meager fog]

The only difference is that HEadshot damage and crit damage are added together, so you will only benefit from crit damage if you actually hit a crit headshot. Which you won't be, because you cant get crit high enough

[worn imp]

headhunter shottie build then i better then just critmaxxed shotttie build?

[magic pilot]

headshot builds will almost always have a higher potential dmg ceiling, since the base headshot % is higher than the base crit. its also easier to stack with brands/ attachments giving more than crit while requiring one attribute

[magic pilot]

100%

[meager fog]

PLus you're stacking only one attribute that relies on your skill rather than RNG for crits.

With crits you need to stack two attributes, so your damage potential is lower overall

[worn imp]

yo isnt a zwiadowka chest with headhunter better than chainkiller? an extra shell means 25% more damage per shell volley

[meager fog]

5% weapon damage plus 25% more damage on first kill for Perfect HH

[magic pilot]

1 extra shell doesnt change the dmg per shot

[magic pilot]

5% weapon dmg

[meager fog]

Sorry, my mistake

[worn imp]

no but it may likely give me the killing shot need to proc headhunter a lot of the time, no?

[meager fog]

Also this, the damage is the same it's just more spread out with an extra pellet

[worn imp]

what?

[magic pilot]

you dont get an extra pellet per shot

8 pellets always for shotguns

[meager fog]

Never mind, I got confused

[worn imp]

I dont follow

[meager fog]

But still, the guides are done the way they are with all the math already done by others. There's no need to reinvent the wheel because the outcome is the same

Those set ups are in most cases, the absolute optimal set up for that build. At that point changing anything is almost always a direct nerf

[worn imp]

is this true man?

[meager fog]

Nah, that was a mistake on my part misreading what you said

But in most games, that is how shotguns work. The total damage is spread between all pellets fired. IN order to hit the full damag,e all pellets need to hit the target

I believe that's the same here

[worn imp]

wtf then wym it was a mistake. lol im confused

[meager fog]

I for some reason thought you were adding extra pellets to the shot.

As Mortar said, all shotguns fire 8 pellets at a time.

So if your damage for that shot is 1.6m, each pellet deals 200k damage for that total.

[worn imp]

Why firewall instead of gunner? The grenades are useless and you dont get the 10% armor on kill from gunner

[gentle lichen]

Op shield

Amplifies damage to targets infront of it

[meager fog]

^

[meager fog]

You're alreayd getting 20% AOK from HF

HF gives 20% AOK and 50% HOK

[gentle lichen]

Add that to firewall and you get 70% health on kill

[worn imp]

what the striker shield does that??

[gentle lichen]

There's also a mod that improves that ability by an additional 5%
Very powerful indeed and it stacks per enemy in front of you

Can lead to funny numbers

[tropic solar]

why is the m870 the recommend shotty for headhunter if the talent is supposed to be brazen anyway?

youd think thorn would be better

also, theres no determined for shotguns, so im assuming hhf shotties are just always aiming for headshots all the time?

[onyx sage]

because m870 is a lot easier to use

[tropic solar]

why

[meager fog]

Accuracy

[onyx sage]

3 mod slots, tighter spread, faster reload at base too

[meager fog]

M870 is laser accurate for a shotgun

[tropic solar]

gotcha

[onyx sage]

and yes

gotta get good

[tropic solar]

can only dream

[meager fog]

Where is the math?

[tropic solar]

and still vigilance backpack?

[meager fog]

Luckily with shotties, you have 8 chances to hit the head lmao 😛

[onyx sage]

watch this

[tropic solar]

we've seen the clip, you are a god, we know

[onyx sage]

spas spread is a lot bigger than this

[meager fog]

Heads go pop

[onyx sage]

it's only used in a few places where accuracy isn't a problem

[onyx sage]

ye

concussion is also an alternative, but it will not buff your first shot

[subtle bluff]

This is for for the meta for OD Tinkerer.

[dreamy spruce]

Math for days

[grizzled garnet]

So uhhh... tldr? :3

My uneducated interpretation is that for lmgs per mag and shot 150rd iwi is top

[subtle bluff]

If I were better I'd math in accuracy into it.

[magic pilot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bmOAQE-McFIdXPNgbZGceIzFfmIEWu7BLVlyMX76zG8/edit?usp=sharing

@subtle bluff math check me

[subtle bluff]

Ugh let me get back to you on a PC. That's hard to look on mobile.

[tropic solar]

why wouldnt you put digital scope on everything for a headhunter? seems like massive hsd

[magic pilot]

then you have to use a 8x scope all the time

[tropic solar]

sure but for a specifically hsd focused build? wouldnt you do that?

[subtle bluff]

Generally we're like with I'm 15m and things are more pita with 8x

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no. The last pic is a good summary of the BiS for numbers.

[onyx sage]

no because zoom is cancer for me

plus adding it doesn't actually add that much damage

hsd does not increase hh bonus

[subtle bluff]

For newer players it can help to see the crosshairs.

[loud pine]

this is how the average player plays

[onyx sage]

of course, very representative

[loud pine]

completely average gameplay from your typical average player

in fact im going to watch it in bed right now in the hopes of becoming an average player one day

[magic pilot]

average gameplay

[loud pine]

nailed the average players melee bait

my goats 🫡

[subtle bluff]

I need to get better than under average player.. 🥲

[meager fog]

Do what us old schoolers did and put a sticker on your screen 🤣

Or use the built in monitor crosshair that almost all monitors have these days 😉

[subtle bluff]

I mean... I am turning 40 in a week. Sooo...

[meager fog]

Bless you, made me feel young. I turned 35 a week ago lmao

[subtle bluff]

It's was marker I used back in the days.

[magic pilot]

DAMN!

My bad

[subtle bluff]

😳

[meager fog]

I used to use bits of electrical tape lol

[magic pilot]

Chow is almost old enough to be my dad

[subtle bluff]

Isn't that local?

[magic pilot]

Well both of you technically

[meager fog]

Nothing wrong with that, I game with my Dad and he's 61 😛

[magic pilot]

My dad is almost 43 I couldn't imagine him playing the way chow does. He struggles with call of duty

[subtle bluff]

Lmao

[meager fog]

I can't imagine many people playing the way Chow does lmao

[magic pilot]

That's a fair point

[meager fog]

Chow is a monster

[subtle bluff]

Hey... I'm not that good.

I can do some things well other not so much.

[vivid axle]

imagine with capactior which apparetly i trashed. i would have to imagine waveform is better than china light. obv yellow rolled groupo bag too

trying to decide if its better to drop chc mods into the available pieces to get to 4pc HW or just run natural with haste

[subtle bluff]

Waveforms isn't good

There's a lot to be said about this build.

[magic pilot]

@subtle bluff +35 mag with m249 and striker syncs up with frenzy

[subtle bluff]

Yup. +50 still not bad due it's rpm and the small buff to frenzy.

[strong cave]

I'm barely half your age tf 💀

Only 22 😭😭😭😭

[subtle bluff]

Age is number.

[strong cave]

Gigachad family here 🤌

[strong cave]

You better not be dead before we get a run in for Incursion. I'll crash out

[subtle bluff]

Woahhhhhh....

[strong cave]

Might need to ask Average if his Birdie's buddy can revive you if so

I need that run with you my dude 🙏🙏

[subtle bluff]

LMAO @onyx sage BUFF ME BACK.

[strong cave]

Jokes aside lol happy early bday

Are you sure those incursion runs didn't age you???

[coral reef]

43 is actually pretty young for Division 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/Division2/comments/1mm6ga0/to_all_agents/

[coral reef]

Read the comments

[subtle bluff]

I mean... I was unemployed fora bit it was good for me in a way... 😐

[strong cave]

Yeah most division players typically fall in the old age range

[strong cave]

I'm in that boat rn 😞 ik how that feels

Most gamers my age are off playing COD or whatever games their iPad kid attention span can handle

It's cool being able to be part of an older community and be able to bond with people of all age ranges. It's what drawn me to division for both PvE and PvP. Such a great community

[nocturne eagle]

Definitely noticed D2 has a predominately older age group. Just the way I like it. I'm 40 myself.

[strong cave]

I feel so out of place half the time bc I'm 22 ongoing 23 😭😂

[subtle bluff]

Div2 scratches almost all the thing I want from a loot-em-shooter most the setting.

[buoyant berry]

that is me making builds. Mixing and matching stuff seeing what fits

quite the tick I get from actually finishing a build and going on test runs with it

especially if its still good weeks/months later (rip all my virtuoso attempts)

[subtle bluff]

Build/balance wise it could be a lot better sadly. Like I've said before in other chat I only hope and wished they take one TU just to do rebalancing of gear. Aka the most unused stuff and just buff it up to make it do something and then figuring a way out to balance the power creep we have one way or another.
Like no need for new content and just balance out the gear so more is usable to a degree.

[gentle lichen]

But i'm still young 😔

[magic pilot]

finally done with the regen build testing my god

[gentle lichen]

How's that

[subtle bluff]

OH RIGHT your calculator

[magic pilot]

3 final versions

memento, hunter killer and standard catharsis

standard - 3 gila, matador, catharsis, belstone

[buoyant berry]

True. I'm not even inclined to make builds with said exotics/gear/brand sets given their buffs (whenever they come) might just completely rewamp them, making them better with other stuff than now

[magic pilot]

memento- 3 gila, belstone, emperors, memento

[subtle bluff]

why is eeverything spread out in here. Lol

[magic pilot]

hunter killer- 2 golan, belstone, matador, catharsis

[magic pilot]

i moved the table on the right down incase i needed more space and i was too lazy to move it back

[subtle bluff]

You would

[gentle lichen]

Damn 30 expertise is 198k armor?
Insane

[magic pilot]

the expertise part works with all the talents and such as well now

when i was comparing to ingame values the regen is less than 500 off, but i think thats just the game rounding

[magic pilot]

30 expertise memento build regens 160k/s

With 5 regen rolls

[strong cave]

How young my fellow gamer ?

[gentle lichen]

This isn't okay

[gentle lichen]

Im 19 years young man
BD this month though

[strong cave]

👌🔥 got great taste in games

[vivid axle]

like what

i think the build might need 4pc HW tbh idk if the skill haste is enough

[versed summit]

You really need to pick skill damage or weapon damage here. Also use the HW 4 pc

[vivid axle]

uh yeah thats why i said imagine with capacitor and yellow cores i just need to farm the groupo chest

[subtle bluff]

Tryinig to do too much focus on one thing.

[vivid axle]

china light is probably a meme

[meager fog]

Eh, i'd take that with a pinch of salt.

Reddit is literally a place full of lies.

The worst place on the internet including LoL

[subtle bluff]

There's a lot of good build and info in the Pinned Messages i'd start there

[versed summit]

It’s probably better than waveform

[vivid axle]

4pc HW with CHC/CHD mods and 2pc Groupo with yellow rolls maybe

whats the natural capacitor crit chance? i know i had a maxed one i guess i scrapped it by accident

[subtle bluff]

The attribute that comes on any weapons is RNG.

[vivid axle]

hmm insync + spike lexis

obv with skill damage + chc/chd (whatever is needed) HW and china pieces

[subtle bluff]

That makes less sense.. Streamline and a Skill build....

[vivid axle]

read the top of the post

i said in sync + spike lexis with the tink

[subtle bluff]

Doesn't change my response.

[vivid axle]

with obviously rerolled stats on the gear

[vivid axle]

uh well it should since streamline isnt in the build

[subtle bluff]

Still a confused build. You're mixing stuff up too much.

[vivid axle]

how? its a skill build with the most DPS on weapon

[subtle bluff]

Only hybrid is refactor atm that good.

[vivid axle]

ya because thats all anyone has tried

[subtle bluff]

Oh.. I've tried stuff

[vivid axle]

also streamline might actually work with HW in a weird way. probably not but maybe

[subtle bluff]

They're not in guides because they suck. Can they be used to clear solo heroics yes but doesn't mean it's good.

[vivid axle]

who said i was trying to make a good build

[subtle bluff]

Streamline on a skill build would make something pointless.

[vivid axle]

im trying to make weird builds

[subtle bluff]

Well then I'll just stop.

[vivid axle]

its not designed to be like top DPS ever but it just might be interesting

[subtle bluff]

https://buildstation.app/
Here use this or
https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/

Just to note either a fully up to date on everything but allow you to mess with w/e

[vivid axle]

yes i know of those im just lazy

thank you though

[subtle bluff]

I'll just stop it there then. GL HF.

[vivid axle]

hmm yes it cannot work with lexis

[pliant pelican]

is there another weapon that i can drop flatline on as AR. feels like the m4 i have is a bit weak.

[gentle lichen]

Carbine works

[subtle bluff]

P416 is pretty good too.

[pliant pelican]

sadge server shutdown. ig i gotta countdown for that Cartbine.

[hexed steppe]

what is this meme 😂

hw streamline meta

[subtle bluff]

That's a visual bug.

[hazy steeple]

@hexed steppe oh btw, your fire eclipse build officially made someone cry from happiness last night.
I joined a call for backup and got a Heroic done that the person had been trying "for hours" to do.

[hexed steppe]

nice

[vivid axle]

what is this meme not reading a post above

[hazy steeple]

homework streamline meta, it's where you put all C's for your test and hope for the best.

[vivid axle]

hardwire proc of streamline and in sync might unironically be possible

[hexed steppe]

lets proc a skill based set so we can keep our anti skill weapon talent active... like i said, memes

[vivid axle]

omg ur right im scrapping the idea and using st. elmo and striker right now

maybe a fenris obliterate chest if im feeling spicy

[hexed steppe]

no, you should use mortar supremacy

if you want to learn how to not totally jack up a skill build

[vivid axle]

i do have an interesting mortar build a friend made

someone made the uhh fire turret build i couldnt tell you what the gear set is i plan on farming too

[vivid axle]

the only endgame left is jacking up builds

it wasnt ecipse it was ortiz the fire build

[hexed steppe]

well good luck with that. im always up for a good laugh 👴

youll be disappointed with ortiz

[vivid axle]

🙂

[magic pilot]

What the freak

[vivid axle]

i thought merciless worked like it did on launch

heres another good one

the worlds first 93r build. I think i improved it after this thoguh with IA

[magic pilot]

Actually not the first I've seen

[vivid axle]

ya you probably have seen one of my earlier iterations

[livid mesa]

Didn't you see the new stash exotic? Brings every stashed item, the downside is: you have a whole steel box covering your face and a thousand items

[vivid axle]

is that ravinz

actually couldnt be because we would never have used visionario over punch drunk and iirc it was obliterate on the chest

and claws was proven to be useless in testing

[magic pilot]

Not sure how it's useless

[vivid axle]

IA outclassed it by an insane margin

[magic pilot]

This is before IA

[vivid axle]

killer is nuts

even before IA ranger or breadbasket or uhh dang there was something else was better

[magic pilot]

Measured

[errant hornet]

Any shotgun users have build to share? Trying to build one can’t find one that feel good so far. Rn I’m using hunters fury with tinkerer

[subtle bluff]

HF chest and BP aren't good.

[bright raptor]

the pinned spreadsheet stuff still holds up, especially Headhunter's Fury

as an asides whichever active or passive that keeps giving bonus armor is pretty good with Intimidate as you can run in with the talent already stacked

[subtle bluff]

@hoary gate Pinned Messages here.

[hoary gate]

Sweet thanks

[frozen haven]

Running this at the moment, the shotgun is not optimized at all and it is enough to one/two shot elites on heroic.

[subtle bluff]

You could do that better

Again like I've said HF Chest and BP aren't worth using tinkerer for

If you wanted to HHF would do it better

[frozen haven]

Depends on what you want on Hunter's Fury, so I tend to disagree with this statement.

[subtle bluff]

But then DCH is better.

[frozen haven]

I was running a Chameleon, Palisade Glass Cannon, Exodus set-up before (Trade off was that you were using the HF backpack). But felt that the disorient range is pretty nice to have.

[subtle bluff]

Or just do more dmg and kill faster

[frozen haven]

Cool, another striker build! Very original

[spare harness]

What build is this? :0 I’m on my phone so its hard to see specifics

[subtle bluff]

I have it on HF too a full run

Was slower by 1 min but I had 2 chunga and rogue agent spawn

[subtle bluff]

Striker, Tac Vector 9 w/killer

[frozen haven]

Yeah but what has this to do with someone asking for a Hunter's Fury Shotgun build though

[hazy steeple]

If you're looking for a fast clear build (with teammates), I can highly recommend the old Fire Eclipse set-up.

HF shotgun is just "use headshots".

[subtle bluff]

One min

[hazy steeple]

there's a build for it in the 📌 spreadsheet.

[frozen haven]

Good job though

[gentle lichen]

Imo HF chest is horrible
You could do an intimidate/memento HF instead

[frozen haven]

This was my previous set-up with a Tsunami, but don't knock this version with Pummel/Brazen

[hazy steeple]

I think most HF setups these days w/ headshots just use the default "determined pistol" thing.
boring, but there's a reason it's boring: it works.

[frozen haven]

Zzzzz

It's nothing new really

[hazy steeple]

You seem to be over tired, you should get some sleep.

[shy willow]

Embrace regulus and become death

[subtle bluff]

Chunga!

[gray radish]

How do make your damage shown to the left?

[hazy steeple]

@shy willow Regulus is for people who can't get the Regular

[gentle lichen]

Don't

[shy willow]

It might take a momento

[gentle lichen]

I only got beagle and littlehorn but all i wanted was the regular

[subtle bluff]

Hit enter, chat on the arrow

[shy willow]

I'm sad we don't get this on console

[subtle bluff]

Is he console?

[gray radish]

Thank you I been looking for this forever

[subtle bluff]

well answers that!

[shy willow]

Talking more about myself

[gentle lichen]

Never too late to make the move

[subtle bluff]

Pulling out Six12 for this is fun

[gentle lichen]

Actually it might be if you value your current financial status

[shy willow]

Some day

[frozen haven]

Is it meta? never!

[subtle bluff]

To note can't self post yourself

I can do non meta easily.

[frozen haven]

Show me some, not the regular striker/hf setups

[subtle bluff]

I need to get the grey set and do 5 grey gear heroic run

[frozen haven]

Include the Ninjabike and it will slap

[gentle lichen]

Chainkiller and regulus?

[subtle bluff]

1886

[hazy steeple]

100% stability SVD meta.

the build the meta-huggers don't want you to try.

[gentle lichen]

You'd like pvp then
Lots of off-meta slop

[frozen haven]

Clearing missions with blindfire/hipfire only

[shy willow]

Remove dread's scope and we can make the SVD meta

[hazy steeple]

nah, just hipfire with it anyway.
granted, you will need 1 headshot to start, but

@frozen haven sorry, images aren't for that.

[gentle lichen]

whhuh

[frozen haven]

Okay like this then

[hazy steeple]

they were a gift by the Admins (people who actually run the server), if they're used poorly, they get taken away.

[subtle bluff]

Here's a start

what do you want to me to do non meta or blind fire..

[gentle lichen]

blind fire can be considered off-meta

[subtle bluff]

Fair

[patent fossil]

There's a good active modifier next season for blind fire

[gentle lichen]

rugged gloves and all

[frozen haven]

I don't want you to do anything tbf

[hazy steeple]

determined says hola

[gentle lichen]

i say adios

[subtle bluff]

I mean.... you did kind of called me out.

[hazy steeple]

I'm picturing the BT camera that's always following us watching you try to blind-fire your way through a mission and them just quietly closing the "danger" book on you.

[subtle bluff]

lol

using GC is a bit rough

also have tech on LOL

[frozen haven]

Best talent in the game to make idiotic builds do some form of DPS

[subtle bluff]

We have that. https://youtu.be/bNtU3BIEkhM?si=_ynDdH5JdAmdmWIb

[gentle lichen]

blow dust off
absolute cinema

[frozen haven]

Now we're talking

[hazy steeple]

@frozen haven Is that your channel?

[gentle lichen]

well 2 seconds in and you can see the username

[subtle bluff]

Yes

There's a reason I'm post the video in here and not a YT

[hazy steeple]

Rule 4.
Sorry, it's a hard rule. Otherwise we just get advertising spam here 24/7.

I try not to watch every single link that gets posted here, I see enough horror IRL.

[gentle lichen]

can't imagine what a mod has to witness everyday

[hazy steeple]

it ain't great.

[fresh grove]

Must suck

[subtle bluff]

I don't even have those gloves to do it that way

not too hard i'd assume just take cover all the time and blind fire over

[frozen haven]

Clearing a mission on heroic disabling right mouse button

Fun challenge

[gentle lichen]

The humble sniper:

[desert pasture]

Any advice where to start fixing this Striker?

[gentle lichen]

get an obliterate chest piece ceska and replace knees with striker's
replace mask mod for crit and make use your chc is above 50%
also use 2 blues at most cause you need the damage if you dont have your watch

[desert pasture]

Ceska backbag would not work?

[meager fog]

Strikers back pack is BiS because of the damage buffs

[desert pasture]

I could run it like this that I have pieces for at the moment

[meager fog]

That's absolutely fine

[desert pasture]

With Ceska backbag

[meager fog]

But you want red core

[desert pasture]

O..oh...

[hallow vigil]

hello any advise on this and quick question is brooklyn dlc good or wait for a sale ?

[meager fog]

Blue core is actively nerfing the strikers

[meager fog]

Don't use 5 pcs of the same set, you're gaining nothing.

Strikers chest is unwise, you cant hit full stacks.

Use Ceska Chedt with Obliterate talent

Also you don't want blue attributes

Weapon damage, crit chance and crit damage only

[desert pasture]

This is what I could do, I am also using protection from Elites on my mask. They hit hard ;c

[meager fog]

You hit harder

[desert pasture]

I do like 400-500k at max

[meager fog]

Change those blues for red cores (you're missing 60% weapon damage

[desert pasture]

And people said to go for armor so I did ;c

I am 1.4mil armor with this setup

[gentle lichen]

nuh uh

for pvp?

[desert pasture]

Nah PvE so you dont die

When doing heroic/legendary stuff

[gentle lichen]

kill before you are killed

[meager fog]

Armour is a waste unless its a pvp or regen build.

At higher difficulties armour doesn't help you survive. Good play does

[desert pasture]

Oh... I love youtube 🙂

[meager fog]

1.4m armour is nothing, you'll die just as fast as me with 700k while killing nothing

[desert pasture]

I am using the shield thing so it helps alot at least :C

[meager fog]

Like we said, don't listen to youtube. Most of them have crap builds

All the build theory you need is already done for you in here.

[desert pasture]

So should I just strip all the armor from the core stats?

[meager fog]

Yep

[meager fog]

That's mine.

Easily capable of legendary content

If you don't have Coyotes, Groupo mask can work.

[desert pasture]

Yeah I use chest from Groupo

I used to have that mask but I think I... deleted it

[meager fog]

Oooof.

Its the BiS mask for alot of builds

[desert pasture]

I have bloody knuckles tho ✊

Abit better I guess? Now I have just 1 blue piece

[gentle lichen]

very great

using memento still?

[desert pasture]

No Ceska

This would be with Memento

The guide says that Pristine Example would be best, I do have that but is it actually worth it? It seems you have to be scoped in

[gentle lichen]

hold on what guide and when was it last updated

cause that is an old piece to use with striker

[desert pasture]

I think its this one

[gentle lichen]

that was good when you used to be able to shield peek with a scope and crusader shield

you could use this though till you get your coyote's

[meager fog]

Strikers BP os BiS, Memento is good for solo

[desert pasture]

Yeah my clan is dead so I play solo mostly, which is why I was using memento

[hazy steeple]

You can just leave and join a new one via #td2-clan-recruitment
there's no penalty.

[gentle lichen]

you could also use this but rolls/watch are horrible so crits aren't even 100%

all mods are chc too

[hazy steeple]

that caption with that image is :chefskiss:

[gentle lichen]

lexington.......

[hazy steeple]

downhill is an understatement.

[desert pasture]

🥰

[subtle bluff]

😶

TP is not good. Also over 90% of YouTube builds are bad.

[hazy steeple]

a basic formula for a div2 youtube build is "does it have the title in capitol letters?" If yes, then ignore it.

@tight wedge You are in a channel called "build advice". If you don't want advice, don't post in here.

I'm usually nicer about that but it's been coming up way too much recently.

Most div2 youtubers are just farming clicks, they'll take a bad idea and make claims about it, leaving out any kind of context.

"this build destroys heroic", the footage is rarely actually heroic, but if it is, they're usually being carried by a team, or it's the start of Lincoln.

[subtle bluff]

#td2-general-chat would be the channel for that. I'm a bit too overly focus on giving some kind of build advice here.

[hazy steeple]

@tight wedge I can't really accept friend requests, my inbox is open if you need to DM me.

[fervent kelp]

what we thinking boysn gals

[meager fog]

Chatterbox is eh. Damage is way too low

[fervent kelp]

i still havent gotten a backfire sadly ;-;

game hates me

[meager fog]

If you really want to use an SMG, Tac9mm or SmG9 with Killer is good

Theres also alot of blue cores there, any reason for that?

[fervent kelp]

i was soloing master manhunt on master. i tried full red but just couldnt do it

[meager fog]

I assume those mods are PFE?

[fervent kelp]

yea

protection from evil 😄

elites

[meager fog]

Nerfing the damage alot for little real gain

[fervent kelp]

i needed something to atleast survive one of those stray nades or suicide bomber drones. all the blue attributes are just hazard protection

i feel like when im full red i dont even get past the first area

[meager fog]

Survivability as a striker comes from learning positioning and awareness. Its 90% pf how you survive.

[fervent kelp]

im 2 garb for that when solo xD il admit that 100%

but i did it .... after like 3 hours... but i did wich makes me semi proud

[meager fog]

That's fine lol, its a learning curve.

You need to find a comfortable balance of what works for yourself

[fervent kelp]

wish the game would give me backfire. heard its alot better then chatterbox

[meager fog]

What I would suggest is removing those blues over time, until you start to struggle. Then learning to survive before eventually getting rid of all of them

#ask-td2-community message

This is full red, using the SmG9

[fervent kelp]

is it better then backfire ? or do you just prefere a other exotic weapon

or simply killer is good af ?

[meager fog]

A mix. I use St Elmos as primary weapon.

[cerulean smelt]

there's videos out there people using backfire for this season since there's a modifier that gives us 7.5% hazard protection for each blue core i think it is? so it was a popular gun if you can manage to get your chc/chd Yaahl one piece to nullify the bleeding entirely i think it was

[rich lotus]

Heh guys,

Im struggling a bit with making a build.
I have used a striker build which I really like. And the last couple of days i have tried different builds. More tank like, and skill builds. But it just isn’t for me. As I’m a offensive player. So dps is the way to go for me.
So I’m thinking a striker really fits me. What other gear/brand set should I be using next to the striker set? And what kind of other things should I focus on in my build ?

[meager fog]

In answer to the last question:

Damage. Always.

Dead enemies don't shoot back

[cerulean smelt]

unless you set your 1 attribute to chance which is bad considering you won't be doing much damage because you don't have chd in your gear, the usual is a ceska chest with obliterate and the last piece you can add the coyote mask to obtain more chc/chd in your build or swap to the memento backpack or even for a 2nd chance mechanic the one exotic gloves that you produce a smoke bomb at your feet and get knocked out of combat for at least 1 second (brain fart on the exotic gloves name)

[raven wasp]

So I hit 40 got a chameleon and running striker for farming but I don’t understand how people are hitting like 1mil on dps like what’s my goal to get more dps besides shd watch

[cerulean smelt]

SHD level 1k, optimizing your striker build and most importantly filling in your library with attributes and talents

[raven wasp]

So when you hit 40 tinkering is how you get over a mil dps? Besides making a build

[subtle bluff]

DPS and Dmg per bullet are different things.

Btw. 1 mill DPS is really easy to hit.

[raven wasp]

I get ya but I’m sure if you’re hitting high grits your dps is probably also high

[cerulean smelt]

like i said most importantly filling in your library
whatever you have in your library stats wise is the highest you'll ever get your builds to

[subtle bluff]

Not really.

Not high dps.