td2-build-advice

[tawdry flare]

EMP is better works with everything

[raw marlin]

What is this

🤨

[patent fossil]

An exotic SMG that was added last season

[cosmic holly]

Exotic smg that is not exactly good… no?

[solar sable]

It's a helicopter.

[raw marlin]

Ok

Delete weapon

[versed summit]

it's not great, low damage and it's utility mostly just negates a skill issue

[raw marlin]

Oh ok

Gear skill

Bro I know

[solar sable]

?

Also, please mark as Favorite any gear that's useful.

[raw marlin]

My favorites gear striker

This is best danger

[urban latch]

Oh your back

[raw marlin]

Hey raucey

[urban latch]

👋

[raw marlin]

👋

Sorry raucey I have we you

See yaa

[onyx sage]

bye

[urban latch]

ok bye

[violet juniper]

omg.

[solar sable]

That's not what I meant.

[hexed steppe]

Looks like a finger

[strong cave]

At least we know he has fingers. Hopefully his legs unlike @verbal gust

[hexed steppe]

I hope that's a finger anyways 😅

[strong cave]

That to me looks like a juicy exotic component

[verbal gust]

Leave my legs out of it. Haha

[strong cave]

Slap it between buns, throw some Chili + cheese on it, now it's a chili dog

I'm so American it hurts...

🦅 🐻 🇺🇸

[hexed steppe]

Makes me want to hit sonic ngl...

[astral kraken]

I look forward to these now!

Life is great lol

And people are awesome

And if you run pfe watch out for purple mini tanks

Bye

[dreamy valve]

It’s great that measured assembly can one shot mini tanks

[willow garnet]

after latest patch, any new Builds?

nerfs or buffs?

[subtle bluff]

not really

Yes and no. Nothing game breaking.

[willow garnet]

any new builds? last played in march

[versed summit]

Measured Assembly, the new greatest, is pretty good

You can run it in a normal FI healer configuration, and trade chem for Smart Cover.

[subtle bluff]

Measured Assembly....

[onyx sage]

point and laugh

[willow garnet]

Is brooklyn DLC worth it?

[versed summit]

I didn’t even play that game

[subtle bluff]

As a fan and wanted to enjoy new stuff meh. It's like wony.

[slate wedge]

IA, new gearset is pretty strong for regulus and determined pistol builds

[subtle bluff]

I still don't use it for regggie

[willow garnet]

Where does drops measured assembly?

[subtle bluff]

It's part of the new season

So normal the normal places and targetable

[willow garnet]

measured assembly is Set gear. i tought it is a exotic weapon.

[light grove]

It’s going to take a bit to have a Measured Assembly of this gearset.

But if you’re Smart, you’ll Cover that ground easily.

[onyx sage]

I'm leaving

[dreamy valve]

Yep Measured Assembly plays into Smart Cover and Hives, while Imminence Armaments plays into pistol builds. I might be able to reach nearly 3 mill crit with Mosquito using Inminence

[willow garnet]

in pinned google docs, is there Measured assembly build guide?

[versed summit]

Not atm

[subtle bluff]

There's no optimized build for it due to how it's talent works.

it's very much a situational build.

and IMO a crutch for a group that can't focus DPS well or don't have enough DPS

[astral kraken]

Yea, the big benefit is it destroys proxies (including minitanks 😭) but with a couple good DPS players the proxies won't be around long enough to matter.

After that you're just running a lesser healer.

[slate wedge]

why not, so much dmg

[subtle bluff]

HF is too nice and I ended up doing enough with HF and HH afterwards.

[slate wedge]

yeah thats fair

in pvp tho, holy smokes is it good

you can run 1.7 mil armor and do 1.3m hsd

[dreamy valve]

Measured Assembly shines the best in pug legendary, where no one pays attention to drone operators and station medics

[astral kraken]

and minitanks!

[near elm]

Are these stats good enough to use in a pve striker build ?

[sterile stirrup]

Use what ever you have till you upgrade it yup

[subtle bluff]

Your weapons should always have DTTooC on it.

[near elm]

What?

[scarlet chasm]

so i just got st elmo and shocker punch and they have stuff that goes together that sounds fun but is it actually any good?

[solar sable]

DMG to Target out of Cover.

[solar sable]

nah, not really

[scarlet chasm]

dang sad day

[solar sable]

wait no, keep Elmo's

[near elm]

So what is that a core or an attribute?

[solar sable]

I didn't read that right @scarlet chasm

[scarlet chasm]

lol ok

[solar sable]

Attribute.

[near elm]

Alright then, do the core attributes change?

Like from health damage to damage to armour

[solar sable]

depends on the weapon, but they are fixed into them, you can't change those

[near elm]

Thanks

[surreal moth]

For an average striker build + Coyote + Ceska chest with obliterate, would I change anything for Ouroboros?

To make use of its perk?

[subtle bluff]

You can change out the Coyote for a Foxes. Just ensure CHC is near 60%

[verbal gust]

Got mp7 with killer and mp7 with optimist man decisions decisions….lol any recommendations ?

[odd ginkgo]

I prefer killer on my SMGs. What level are you?

[raw marlin]

Good night people

😴

[verbal gust]

I’m 28 exp almost 29 and 3693 shd

[subtle bluff]

Mp7 is not good. Best HE smg are Tac Vector 9 and SMG9

[odd ginkgo]

4pc HF + 2pc Sokolova chest and backpack. Obliterate and Vigilance.

And extra pockets for all of the SMG ammo you will need.

[verbal gust]

This ^ is helpful

[verbal gust]

Thank you 🙏 il get one of those then

[odd ginkgo]

You could do Memento back instead.

Good SMG build, regardless of weapon.

[surreal moth]

For the Future initative healer build I am planning to have repair skills as attribute on my gear, but for the mods how many do I want to use for Haste and how many for even more repair skill?

[solar sable]

Primary attribute: Repair Skills
Secondary attribute: Skill haste
Mods: Skill haste preferably

[surreal moth]

Oh okay thanks!

[odd ginkgo]

The Dark Winter SMG is in the Countdown store, you can roll DtTooC on it. It might not be the best, but I like it for HF builds.

[odd ginkgo]

Have you considered swapping your sidearm for The Harvest?

[proven merlin]

no intention or reason to

[eager viper]

i went ninjabike route with hasburg guard

[odd ginkgo]

I just like a nice punchy revolver.

[proven merlin]

nice i have an alt with 1 breaking point and ninjabike

[tranquil ice]

any one tap build out there?

[verbal gust]

What’s the difference between all the vectors?

[subtle bluff]

All 3 are different from WD, rpm, mag size.

[verbal gust]

Right. But what makes the tac best?

[subtle bluff]

Rpm and reload

[proven merlin]

either of the two i posted

[tranquil ice]

thanks 😄

[subtle bluff]

You could do more dmg.
Using NBB is always gonna nerd a build max dmg.

[proven merlin]

well, yeah, im using it becausei have a piece of breaking point and only 3 HS

[subtle bluff]

Oh Nvm you posted both.

[proven merlin]

idr what build vid i saw but i copied it and thought it was decent enough

[subtle bluff]

You want to go the MMR dmg brandset to max out dmg.

[proven merlin]

more shot dmg but less rpm

[subtle bluff]

The idea with more dmg you can run sr1, m700 carbon or 308 for the Mag vs single round reload.

[kindred mango]

Nice

[subtle bluff]

Have you not seen this yet?

[rose hinge]

hello any cluster seeker build ?
it's worth it or not

[glad heart]

Hardwire gearset w/backpack, china light chest w/glass cannon or explosive delivery, and 1 piece Wyvern.... all rolled skill damage and skill haste

[subtle bluff]

I’d add if you want to do it all add a BTSU and add hive and just keep dropping and picking it up.

HW cluster spam is my favorite support build.

“Support”

[glad heart]

I don't think that BTSU gloves help so much, unless in a group.

[subtle bluff]

If you use Stinger Hive it will

Doesn’t have to do just another way to do the build

HW has a bunch of different ways to do it.

[glad heart]

Ah, well I run reviver hive, just set it down and pick it up, spam seekers

But there is more than one way to skin a cat, I agree

[astral kraken]

overcharged seekers are pretty strong

i run acosta so i can overcharge more often

[subtle bluff]

Heh heh… wanna hear my newest support thingy?

[astral kraken]

always

[subtle bluff]

Everyday Carrier, Axle, 4pc HW.

DO it all support.

[astral kraken]

what's axle again? i insta decon that one so dont remember

[subtle bluff]

The Named BP for OC for armor kit

[astral kraken]

ah

hahaha that's great

[subtle bluff]

The problem with the build. YOU DON”T GET SHOT ever

Other than running up to a guy to get say HIT ME

[astral kraken]

there plenty of hazards around tho right

[subtle bluff]

I played with oxi myself

it’s scary

[astral kraken]

lol

[subtle bluff]

I was fun tho and messy

Cluster spam, either oxi or riot Chem everything

Then when hurt heal everyone near and OC

30 CD OC

[astral kraken]

i hate that seekers have "can't land here" zones

so annoying to need a throw and having to wait for the animation to reset

[hexed steppe]

mortar doesnt have that issue

[burnt urchin]

Would streamline + optimist + perfect glass cannon be a good combo while wearing the alphabridge exotic with heart breaker ? Saw the new exotic from the PTS on YouTube and was wondering

[lavish hill]

How do i figure out when to use an attribute in my build like crit or resists, etc

[astral kraken]

hard one to answer b/c a lot of concepts go into builds. most builds are created around 1 or 2 goals and the attributes help you reach the goal of the build. that's why it's good to start with one of the builds in the pinned spreadsheet until it all starts making sense.

[hexed steppe]

please keep images in this channel build/gear specific @lavish hill

[lavish hill]

I feel like "tank striker" fits both those

[hexed steppe]

😅 it was funny, but it was memes and not really allowed here. just share in pm or w/e so neither of us need to worry about it.
exception might be meme builds, but those are shared sometimes anyways without the op realizing it

[hexed steppe]

would you be using a shield?

reason being any skill shuts down streamlined

[lavish hill]

I dont mind meme builds. Its literally just me and my homie till we find a group to play with

[hexed steppe]

i hear ya. youre in the right place 👍

[burnt urchin]

Shields still work with streamline ?

[cerulean smelt]

no

PTS it did, but once the turned it live they made any deployed skills shuts off streamline
so you could've had a turret and drone out and doing 82% damage or 87% damage with either named weapon

[hexed steppe]

reason i asked was hb builds usually utilize a shield

[burnt urchin]

Ah tbh I didn't know that until now haha. Isn't there a talent that gives a damage boost if am enemy has any status effect ?

[cerulean smelt]

Pressure point i think for weapons? but best to use the specific status effects like bleed/fire/blind/shock sicne after x kills you apply that status effect
pressure point just increases your damage to any status effect but never applies it itself

[burnt urchin]

Is a enemy debuffed when it's pulsed ? I was wondering flatline + pressure point ?

[cerulean smelt]

pulse not a status effect

[hexed steppe]

so its a little disappointing, but bluescreen disrupt doesnt pop the hollywood shield fields

any know if elmo shock is working for it? i know scorpio shock is working

[burnt urchin]

I'm guessing for debuffer builds though you'd use pressure point + whatever debuff your build towards if your using the Tinkerer exotic holster

[shy willow]

It was the last time I played Hollywood

[burnt urchin]

Goalie + Pyromaniac with Exuro gear set and you get +75 weapon damage damage to enemies that are on fire if your using the Tinkerer exotic holster. That's nutty.

[cerulean smelt]

when you switch weapons you lose the talent

[burnt urchin]

But why would you? They're both assault rifles

One of them is probably never getting used

[cerulean smelt]

say you start off with goalie, you swap to pyromanic you lose pressure point, same goes if you start with pyromaniac you lose ignited talent going to Goalie

[shy willow]

It's worth noting perfect talents don't even work with alphabridge lol

[burnt urchin]

Now that that's just dumb

[cerulean smelt]

tinkerer doesn't play iwth exotics or named weapons

[cinder wedge]

yo nice status I'm one as well lol also imma go to bed soon so gn yall and have a great rest of your week :)

[cerulean smelt]

go dark zone vs someone who's going the perfect streamline and regular streamline and say that again (> <)

[burnt urchin]

But that's impossible right ? Both weapons must be non named and the talents can't be the same

[cerulean smelt]

it's pretty much what you're saying is dumb. someone would run that combo if named weapons weren't a restriction

[burnt urchin]

Fair point

[cerulean smelt]

or exotic combos might be something like bighorn with another ar with that talent for body shots increasing headshots? wanted to say breadbasket but i think i'm wrong?

[shy willow]

Breadbasket just trash anyway tbh

[cerulean smelt]

is that the talent i was thinking of for bodyshots increasing headshot damage though?

[shy willow]

Two body shots then a headshot yea

[burnt urchin]

Speaking of exotics. I'm trying make a debuff build using Saint Elmo's engine with the shock trap skill and eclipse protocol with the Ninja bike backpack (that don't have yet -_- ) would it be viable ?

[onyx sage]

no

you want something that gives shock faster

[cerulean smelt]

the trap skill we throw like we have no arm and only goes a few feet and explodes into the tinier traps spread all over

[burnt urchin]

Ye that one

Didn't the Hunters have a shock sticky bomb or something, wish we could get that

[solar sable]

you can get an emp sticky tho

[onyx sage]

i don't think there's a shock sticky bomb

[sudden cloak]

I love EMP sticky🔥

[cerulean smelt]

what if we used tamper proof and just shoot a sticky and not detonate it? (> <)

[shy willow]

I don't think stickies count as deployed skills tbh

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i don't hink that'd work either but you never know XD

[spice junco]

idk if this belongs here but might give you guys nightmares

[mighty tusk]

yes it does give us nightmares

[spice junco]

haha

[astral kraken]

at first glance i'm like "wow that's bad" but then i saw the foundry knees and i'm like "damn that's actually pretty good"

[shy willow]

🛐

[spice junco]

eyy at least some right with it then

[cerulean smelt]

good idea, i should go take cover in my souless shrine i put up

[astral kraken]

all it needs is 5 more foundry pieces and it's golden

[spice junco]

i had full set

[shy willow]

Gearsets don't have any added benefits for running more than 4 pieces

[spice junco]

but heavy but i found the chest that gave granades cooking and more radius

[shy willow]

And foundry genuinely isn't very good tbh

[astral kraken]

don't oversell foundry pls

[cerulean smelt]

shame collector exotic wasn't a backpack or gloves

[subtle bluff]

I like the set just doesn't work in div2

[shy willow]

Oh it's kestrel

[spice junco]

i have some gloves in the stash safe and sound and knees i have the ones that you need to stay still

[cerulean smelt]

would've been fun spamming grenades with madbomber talent and collector together

[astral kraken]

@spice junco start with a build from the build collection (pinned). that'll get you started much faster. you already have memento and elmo... not much left for a solid build.

[spice junco]

thanks for the advice and yes i got elmo today since i was doing the summit farming or y books farming running rifles as the gear you get and hoping to get it lol

[astral kraken]

that backpack is going to carry you through a lot of content with the right build

pretty much everything else can probably be deconstructed tho

[spice junco]

that's good to know and i like the way it gives armor and the weapon damage my ''build'' main focus was trying to get as much armor as can so can tank some hits

[astral kraken]

most common early mistake. most common question "what's the tankiest build that does a lot of dps?". doesn't exist. armor won't protect you from getting hit. armor is there as a utility more like skill tiers. if you're just using it for raw protection you'll make it harder on yourself.

best protection is damage b/c dead things don't shoot back. although with memento you'll benefit from running 1 blue core. that'll give you a tier 3 shield and short term trophy pickups will give you really good bonus armor.

[spice junco]

Aa that's very nice to know and yes i have seen the downside of my way xd

[astral kraken]

practice using the cover system. enemies have a hard time hitting you when you're doing a cover-to-cover move. hide behind tall cover. try to avoid short cover. if you peek above something (like a short wall) then you're exposed 180 degrees.

blind fire when things are close. stuff like that. you can live through almost anything even as a full red.

[spice junco]

ooi oi thats helpful

[spice junco]

that's true might need to tie my eyes shut XD

Might have to try some and give you people some traumas of my builds 😂

And my build experience was in destiny 2 where I was focused on being the tank so might have carried that into division

[devout iris]

any build for open world for the ravenous ?

[patent fossil]

It's not really a generally good enough gun to build around, it's useful for one shotting certain raid bosses, or for breaking Hollywood shields, but it doesn't really need a custom build. You can just throw it on a high end or nego build I guess

[rich lotus]

what brand set should i focus on getting if i wanna dps build?

[candid talon]

This or Gunslinger holster?

[odd ginkgo]

Striker. Check the pins for a build spreadsheet with a Striker build inside.

Does anyone have a fun melee punch build? I've got sweet dreams/lullaby and I've got St Elmo's and Shocker Punch. So hit me with your best build. Fire away!

[surreal moth]

How bad is a FI build when the backpack only has +repair effects and not skill hast too

[candid talon]

Pretty sure FI is still #1 healer build

[odd ginkgo]

Can you roll Skill Haste onto it?

[surreal moth]

No The Setup only comes with main blue core and I think I have to change that toa yellow one

[candid talon]

Oh, it barely matters if that's your only downside

[odd ginkgo]

Then keep grinding.

[candid talon]

This with red core.

[odd ginkgo]

You could use it, for now, but don't expect to see greatness out of it.

[sudden cloak]

2years of playing and the game still refuses to give a perfectly rolled setup bp

[odd ginkgo]

Is that in the general loot pool?

[candid talon]

Want me to craft you one...?

[candid talon]

Named Cache / Darkzone. Can either bite the bullet, farm countdown for caches OR just... wait for it to be in DZ vendors.

Either way, but yeah, waiting for it to be on DZ vendors WITH the right stats, meh

[slate wedge]

striker shield, bloody knuckles, lady death, claws out holster

[candid talon]

Why do you need yellow core on "The Setup", don't you use Technician as FI healer? So you should only need blue core repair skills and skill haste, no?

[odd ginkgo]

tech is yellow, armor is blue.

[surreal moth]

For BTSU gloves to work

[candid talon]

How is BTSU dependant on anything? What?

[sudden cloak]

I use survivalists on my FI build

[candid talon]

Bro, WHAT? You already have 5 yellow cores, technician gives you one for free, so you can do with 5 yellow cores + 1 skill tier from Technician and 1 blue core.

[surreal moth]

Btsu gloves only give your teammate overcharge if you havce 6 in tech

[sudden cloak]

As the healer you don't need armor

[candid talon]

See, THAT is a problem, in that case it makes sense.

Yeah but if you're using technician having 7 SKILL TIER is more waste than extra 170k armor

[candid talon]

Again, 4 FI pieces = 4 yellows, BTSU = 5 yellows, TECHNICIAN GIVES YOU 1 FOR FREE, 6 yellows.

[sudden cloak]

If I see someone rock up to an incursion with a blue setup bp, I will politely decline their assistance

[odd ginkgo]

I think I misunderstood your statement on first read.

[simple breach]

That’s a lot of caps lock for a chat about a video game.

[odd ginkgo]

lol

[simple breach]

Stop shouting.

[sudden cloak]

Okay, what content are you using your FI build for?

[odd ginkgo]

Reminds me of the movie Clue.

[candid talon]

WTF? Is using shift forbidden in this discord somehow? I've wrote it "normally" three times, I caps locked it to bring attention to that point, maybe next time I'll write it like this in case caps lock offends anyone.

[odd ginkgo]

It's NoDuck4u's build they are discussing.

[simple breach]

I do like a good bit of bold text to be fair.

[candid talon]

Any content you're using support for. you're missing the point. If you're using FI and BTSU that's already 5 cores, technician will give you the final 6th, having a 7th core is pointless. Your setup can have blue core and then repair skills and skill haste. It doesn't need the +1 skill tier.

[odd ginkgo]

Bold brings good attention. Caps lock brings bad attention.

[candid talon]

Attention is attention, that's just fancy for "tone policing"

[surreal moth]

Sorry I didn't know that the tech tree givers you one for free, never played that one before

[candid talon]

Like I stated and this is the whole point, you should only have a yellow core rolled Setup as a support if you're going Survivalist at which point it's valid. In that case it's totally fine! But if you're going technician, you're technically rolling 7 skill tier, it's pointless.

[versed summit]

for most content you do want survivalist for the team buffs it gives, but technician is important for certain fights

[surreal moth]

Thats the advised build in the sheet

[candid talon]

What IC3So said

[versed summit]

tbh I just use a yellow cored setup with the wrong rolls, you have enough heals with FI anyways.

[sudden cloak]

I use an alps bp

[candid talon]

In Survivalist you have Triage (15% extra healing) and Distributed Repair which is HOT armor kits but applies to all team, and PFE. As Technician you get 10% Skill Healing (not all sorts but, you know, marginal difference), one free yellow core that you can use to up your survivability slightly (170k armor from 1 blue core stacking with Technomasomething, the one that gives you 15% armor when aiming skills), you have Faraday Field which is one of the best skills in the game, longer radius hive and lower cooldown hive.

[versed summit]

generally The Setup is recommended even over an alps bag, just because that extra 5% amp damage is a lot stronger than the repair skills you get.

[subtle bluff]

Just gonna throw this here.

[candid talon]

Exactly what Chow posted!

Dude never misses 😂

[subtle bluff]

I need to throw a title on the OP post so when forwarded it enough it can be searched easily

Or #FI-guide or something

[candid talon]

So yeah, essentially my point, if you're going technician, you can have blue core setup, if you go survivalist, well, enjoy the sweaty grind 😂

[rich lotus]

whatt does LZ stand for on the spreadsheet?

[subtle bluff]

Survivalist gives more buff but heal wise it’s the same.

[sudden cloak]

I just slot in an alps bp with the same rolls

[versed summit]

light zone, it's just open world content bsaically

[candid talon]

Light Zone*. Basically, the world map minus dark zone.

[rich lotus]

i see ty

[subtle bluff]

Works fine but isn’t needed FI talent is so strong anyways

[candid talon]

Yeah, the difference is marginal, one won't likely save the run if you get to that point

[sudden cloak]

I only use FI in the incursion, don't heal much outside of there

[subtle bluff]

Even more reason to run FI Tech with the Setup.

[versed summit]

you really don't need a healer outside of incursion and Iron Horse, sometimes groups benefit from one in legendary though

[subtle bluff]

TBH don’t even need a healer in the incursion if you KWTD

[candid talon]

This ^

In most content TTK is king. Best form of CC is dead enemies. Best form of support is dead enemies that won't shoot at you.

[sudden cloak]

Sometimes I throw it on for legendaries or someone else does

[subtle bluff]

Just people don’t really KWTD well.

[candid talon]

I've seen Incursion solo'd no downs so it's definitely a skill/patience issue.

[sudden cloak]

I've ran the incursion as a duo with a friend

[subtle bluff]

You kinda of can’t go down when solo

You’ll overran immediately afterwards

[candid talon]

Mindset issue. That leaves room for another skill since you don't revive hive 😂

[subtle bluff]

IMO need all your skill slots for solo

Even duo

[candid talon]

Yeah, you don't want to spend it on Revive Hive

You just have to never die 😆

[subtle bluff]

Hell I don’t have a Rez on any of my loadouts

[versed summit]

i mean isn't solo wr with revive hive lol

[subtle bluff]

Nope

[versed summit]

who has it?

[subtle bluff]

Broken of course

[versed summit]

swear to god he used a res hive for lovebirds at least

[subtle bluff]

He set a new WR like 2 weeks ago

On his first run he did I think

I should get one solo run done.

[versed summit]

yeah I only watched the run from about a month ago

I don't think he's gotten a better time than 21:46 though

[sudden cloak]

I just wanna get a faster time on the incursion, not gonna try soloing it, don't have the builds for it

[candid talon]

I'm not anywhere patient enough to do a solo run of incursion

[subtle bluff]

My issue.

[candid talon]

Not a build issue because I have pretty much any piece you could ever need god rolled. It's a skill issue, patience is part of the skillset I don't have.

[sudden cloak]

I'm right there with you lol

[subtle bluff]

Like I’ve solo each section already just not has one whole run.

[subtle bluff]

Sub 10 is pretty easy these with a good group

[sudden cloak]

I'm still working on my soloing kiting

[sudden cloak]

I'm sitting at 7m 51secs currently, on xbox

[subtle bluff]

Ah

I wish the leaderboards weren’t bugged last season I would have 6:19 but I have 6:27

[sudden cloak]

I need a faster time cause a yt is ahead of me and I will not stand for that heresy

[subtle bluff]

Just need to get everything down with a team and sub 7 is easy

[sudden cloak]

Yeah on leaderboards I'm at 8min 11secs, but my fastest was the 7:51

[rich lotus]

is the pestilence lmg worth using? if so when do i stop using it to upgrade?

[odd ginkgo]

You don't have to stop using it. You can have up to 16 loadouts in your inventory that you can swap between outside of combat.

[rich lotus]

yes but like is it worth using now? im only shd level 20

[odd ginkgo]

Depends on the build.

[sudden cloak]

You can make a build that leans into pestilence

[odd ginkgo]

Your question is not easy to answer, unfortunately.

[rich lotus]

well im new to the whole build stuff rn so im not entirely sure of what gear is good to use and not

[odd ginkgo]

Check the pins for a build spreadsheet. It has recommendations of weapons for each build.

A full red Negotiators Dilemma could be fun with Pestilence.

Sometimes the best weapon to use for now is the one you have available.

[astral kraken]

Yea keep it. It's a good all arounder LMG. You can throw it into any crit based weapon damage (most of them) build and it'll do well.

[rich lotus]

how do u check what weapons r good in specific builds

on the spreadsheet

[odd ginkgo]

Mid range striker from cover position with a Pesti does sound fun.

[sudden cloak]

Certain brand sets have bonus that that buff either yourself or your weapon etc etc

[astral kraken]

Some of the builds are accompied by a guide. Read that b/c it'll show you alternative weapons you can use.

[odd ginkgo]

It will give recommendations like this in the Negotiator's Dilemma build.

Notice it says Common Primaries: but not Best Primaries

[rich lotus]

oh yeah

rn im running petrov defense group brand set

[odd ginkgo]

Can you screenshot and post your build? We can probably give you some advice on improving it. If you don't want to, that's cool. Just browse the spreadsheet and farm for a build you want to try.

[rich lotus]

What do I screenshot just my inventory?

[odd ginkgo]

Yeah just screenshot your current build in your inventory.

[rich lotus]

assuming this is what u meant

[odd ginkgo]

Do you like to shoot from cover or get up close for CQB?

[rich lotus]

Both but mostly cover

[odd ginkgo]

You could try a hybrid Red/Blue ND build. Check out the Negotiator's Dilemma Build in the spreadsheet for the basic build. You can roll Weapon Damage cores off for Armor cores, as long as you still have enough CHC/CHD to get between 50-60% CHC and over 100% CHD.

Click the Docs link on the build line to read about the build.

I encourage everyone to browse all of the builds.

[rich lotus]

pestilence is one hell of a game changer for me holy smokes

[forest trail]

has anybody cooked any new banger build

[candid talon]

Contrary to what YTbers want you to believe, nothing new under the sun for a long time

Every time a new piece is balanced / released we test it with just about every single possible combination with godrolls

What works, sticks, what doesn't, is fringe, it's novelty, you're hurting yourself by running it

Ultimately as long as you have fun you're playing the game right though

[astral kraken]

Imminence Armaments has some new stuff for pistol builds:
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1FK5UVrVAf6figTcEyg9EhxmuX4mL--7eLxyr-QP1UpM/edit?usp=sharing

Although the threat mechanic needs more testing in hard content to see if it actually helps.

[astral kraken]

Refactor is the new popular turdro/healer hybrid:
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1P_yxFbZI4IuP-m1YmNxT1aqHK5j1mg4AigCGu44SDow/edit?usp=sharing

That's about it really. Measured Assembly is nice but situational. Usually only useful on legendary when the group struggles on that difficulty.

[rich lotus]

for the capacitator should i get a striker build?

[astral kraken]

nah. that gun is for skill builds (yellow cores). you can make a yellow striker but that's more of a meme.

read the talent description and you'll see why it's for skill builds

[rich lotus]

ah

does the spreadsheet show what weapons r good towards dps builds?

[astral kraken]

read the guides that accompany the build

[mossy dirge]

Made this today, kamikazevondoom tip. Using oxpacker 104 magazine size,

😉

[astral kraken]

why oxpecker? well why a lot of things. but why oxpecker?

[mossy dirge]

?

[autumn yacht]

if it’s a kvd build, you can safely trash it 👍

[mossy dirge]

Kvd?

[autumn yacht]

kamikazevondoom

[mossy dirge]

You know him?

[vestal ibex]

Loathe would be a better word for it.

[mossy dirge]

Loate?

[vestal ibex]

Time and time again we have people who make builds sourced from him and can't figure out why they die/don't do damage/aren't having fun.

[autumn yacht]

this guy is just full of questions

[vestal ibex]

Loathe

[mossy dirge]

Whats that

[vestal ibex]

Link mark down.

[loweffortragebait](Hyperlink) example of how you'd do this in discord.

[autumn yacht]

he put effort into the build at least

[vestal ibex]

It's not even optimized nor does it have expertise, how much effort is that really?

[autumn yacht]

if that chest is chc chd with ub that’s impressive

useless but impressive

[loud pine]

absolutely hideous build to look at

[vestal ibex]

Meh it's just low effort rage bait.

[autumn yacht]

reading through his message history i don’t think it is ngl 😭

[vestal ibex]

Seeing their responses to me kinda screams it tho.

[astral kraken]

Why is the build using an Oxpecker?

[vestal ibex]

It's bait.

[astral kraken]

oh. I'm bad at detecting that lol

[autumn yacht]

i like that it has 3pc patriot definitely gonna need the extra bullets for the damage it’s doing

might take down an elite

[mossy dirge]

Ninja backpack too:)

[spice junco]

hmm nightmare fuel

[hexed steppe]

-# god mode activated

[spice junco]

god has abondoned the build

[tired falcon]

not a banger but having a lot of fun messing around with the new exotic lmg Pakhan. Been using it with Umbra and Centurion holster.
It's hilarious

[rich lotus]

whats the best way to get the backfire smg?

[forest trail]

Group countdown smg target loot

[hexed steppe]

Just target smg and open exo caches

[forest trail]

@tired falcon @astral kraken ty for the suggestions i'll check them a bit later

[rich lotus]

so enemies in the summit will drop it?

[hexed steppe]

It can drop anywhere

[tired falcon]

there's no real "best" way but the most efficient method would be to do countdown with as many players having smg as loot target.
Including yourself that would mean 8 players all having smg as the loot target.
On average you can expect 10 good item drops per player, 1 to 3 exotics.
So by sheer volume of item drops for the given loot target you have a good chance of getting what you want.
Also every 2 countdowns (again, on average) gives enough credits to buy 1 exotic cache.

Doesn't even have to be heroic level countdown. You can make the runs faster using challenging level difficulty

[forest trail]

If you target loot smg yes

[hexed steppe]

If you do summit directives increase target loot drop chances

F10 boss farm probably best use for summit

[autumn yacht]

what build have you been using for this?

[hexed steppe]

Probably hotshot. It's more controlled for leaving npcs alive so you can reset it.
I dont really run it myself anymore but it is legit.
@solar sable do you mind pm your bossfarm vid, I'll share it here

[autumn yacht]

is there a benefit to farming floor 10 vs cd other than summit exclusives?

[hexed steppe]

It can be really fast and the drop chances are higher.
CD is prefered because it has a small drop chance but also guaranteed caches

The caches being random regardless of target

[rich lotus]

is dz a good way to maybe get backfire?

[hexed steppe]

No

You'll have a chance to drop, but then you also have to extract it

CD > prio objectives > summit

[rich lotus]

whats CD

nvm

[solar sable]

#td2-general-chat message

oh pm, shi sorry

[hexed steppe]

That's perfect anyways

[solar sable]

Named bosses have a slightly higher chance of dropping exotics or named items, that's why I prefer summit for exo hunting and prio obj.

I can't really enjoy Countdown atm for all the newbies matchmaking nowadays... I've been able to extract, yes, but only if I get paired with another SHD 1,5k+ agent. I can't carry the whole thing myself lol

[hexed steppe]

You could with mortar

Dont look at them as agents needing to be carried... look at them as gifts for the great one.. you'll get a lot more joy out of CD

[autumn yacht]

sounds good i’m starting from scratch on xbox so this is helpful

[tired falcon]

lol; that's why I always run some form of a bonus armor build when running countdown with randoms. 99% of the time we extract without any issues.
It's rare that my group of randoms wipe (either at start or at extraction).
The hidden boss Delta-3 has caused me more grief than actual countdown noobs

[slate wedge]

also CD you get alot of other loot aswell + braindead gameplay

[slate wedge]

play challenging with a determined sniper build, no matter the team if you can hit shots you’ll win

[solar sable]

I've tried but these bastards always end up not being one shot by me and get killed by the team and losing Determined before extraction isn't pleasant

[solar sable]

shhh

[hexed steppe]

Honestly, the only build in cd that isnt boring to run is cc eclipse. I'm biased ofc, but it's all I ever run. I can count all cd matches where I ran dps on 1 hand.

[hexed steppe]

I run it sometimes for farming random exotics for components. Mmr target usually since it's a good amount of exotics compared to the rest of mmr pool

[tired falcon]

I've been using Iron Lung + Ongoing Directive + Perfect Creeping Death with the Catalyst mask in countdown, is a lot of fun. It's quite effective now that the mask is working

[rich lotus]

i just googled it, apparently the backfire has to be unlocked through season pass before it can be found through like the summit. is this true?

[hexed steppe]

Should run wicked or vig. Od has no issue spreading status w/o creeping

[tired falcon]

yes I know creeping death talent is not required, as I said that build I run for fun, not for maximum effectiveness.
When I need more dps I use the Perfect Wicked backpack and Coyote mask

[subtle bluff]

Above

[rich lotus]

the spreadhsset doesnt show the chances of getting it

[onyx sage]

the chances aren't static, that's why they aren't shown

there's a lot of loot pools, it's easier to understand those than to know what the chances are, because you may not even be doing the right thing to proc those chances.

but for your original question, no, backfire is farmable everywhere, in normal pool or in smg targeted too. i would just farm smg targeted in countdown

[rich lotus]

i dont have people to play copuntdown with. is it possible solo?

[candid talon]

Why isn't Anarchist's Cookbook used with pestilence builds? Pesti tic counts as Status, so Cookbook increases WD by 18%, which stacks with Pesti ticks since WD

Maker?

[candid talon]

Absolutely not.

[tired falcon]

the pestilence stacks are a dmg debuff, not an actual status effect. Hence Wicked/Perfect Wicked does not apply.

[onyx sage]

pesti doesn't count as status

even if it did you wouldn't use anarchist, the brand is useless and the perfect talent only extends the duration

[candid talon]

TIL. Never used Pesti

[tired falcon]

it is possible to solo it, even on heroic but the harder the difficulty the less builds exist that lets you solo it.|
There are still many players that run countdown so just matchmake, it's rare for matchmaker to not find a group for you

[rich lotus]

ill probs try this cos the summit keeps buggin out for me

[tired falcon]

countdown is just as unstable...don't be surprised by delta-3's...it's rng just like exotic item drops; sometimes you can do several countdown runs in a row without any issues then wham on the next run half the team gets disconnected

[ruby patrol]

Hey guys, I’m new to the game and was wondering if anybody can recommend a video/discord channel/reddit thread that explains how the tinkering station works and what gear/attributes I should be prioritizing.
I know there are a lot of variables depending on the build you’re going for but any information would help. I just hit level 30 which opened up a butt load of stuff I don’t understand and it got overwhelming. Just looking for a little advice and push in the right direction. Thanks in advance!

[astral kraken]

@smoky moss

45% explo

seekers and mortar do the same thing but nade launcher is fast and free

[subtle bluff]

Get to level 40 first then come back.

[ruby patrol]

Copy that, thank you

[subtle bluff]

You don't need to use it till much later.

[ruby patrol]

Cool, that alone is super helpful, thanks!

[stark dawn]

The tinkering station depends on the library, and it is split between level 1–30 and 31–40 (for historical reasons). Because nowadays you XP out of level 30, it is less useful to maintain a level 30 character (people used to do it for DZ, etc. reasons) and hence the level 1–30 library. So unless you are very into it, you can focus on building the level 31–40 library.

But unless you are level 40, you will not have anything that maxes out, so attributes (except the skill tier core) are less useful right now to discuss. For levels 31–40 once you are leveled beyond a gear to be useful, I would try to grab the talents or the skill tier core (they do not have levels) into the library.

[hexed steppe]

That's fine, but it is really not active a lot of time. You'll get 1 bullet that has a bit of range for its status then nothing until the next single bullet proc. Hell, ninja would be an improvement simply for the extra cores.
Memento also, which can give 30% status effects btw.

Less damage= more fun doesnt compute,

[ruby patrol]

Thanks for the info, really appreciate it!

[versed fulcrum]

hello how is everyone doing today im new to the game and could use help im level40 and my guns are trash im getting killed from left and right

[slate wedge]

yeah that’s really effective

[subtle bluff]

Farm up new gear

[stark dawn]

You can run Countdown or craft. For example the Police M4 crafted if ended up with reasonable roll can be decent. For gear you might need to consult known good builds, a lot of people run Striker, which is easier to farm, but that requires knowledge about how to stack to be really putting out damage. Another option that can be useful for new players and survivability, in particular with the M4 is to go for the Heartbreaker, but then you need the Technician attachment that pulses.

[cerulean smelt]

FYI: before this update https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/the-division/the-division-2/news-updates/9XK0DbaxzntoNxXqC5ftY
we were locked to DC level 30 if you chose not to goto New York to tackle the Warlords campaign and leveling 31-40
but that update i linked made it so one can go level 1-40 in DC alone without needing to buy warlords of new york to progress
so 1-30 library is pretty much obsolete as you can't stay in that bracket anymore really

[queen epoch]

Anyone able to tell me what mask and backpack these are?

[odd ginkgo]

Mask is Strikers Gear Set, backpack is Memento exotic.

[queen epoch]

Thank you kind sir

[odd ginkgo]

The Gear Set/Brand Set logo appears faintly on the left half of the gear piece image block.

The chest is Fenris btw

All of the blue stuff is Strikers. It's a Strikers Memento build. Pushing armor instead of damage.

[subtle bluff]

And Fenris isn’t BiS for this build.

[autumn yacht]

that guy is bad don’t use his builds

[cerulean smelt]

looking at it and the caption, dude thinks it's OP, but i imagine if they got banned it was for something else

[strong cave]

Don't use Fenris. Use Ceska

Antrax isn't really a good source for "top tier" builds. Mostly just does casual content creation for casual viewers

I do love his interaction with his viewers tho and he is a humble player. Even plays with his son on the game which is fun to watch

[cerulean smelt]

is that the creator who posted that build about being banned for using it?

[strong cave]

Captioned something about a ban or something, yes

He's clearly still playing and I think the caption was just people crying cheats

[cerulean smelt]

ah, didn't know who it was but could tell it was a content creator of sorts

[strong cave]

Ye he makes content that's mainly just laid back. Not really going for the "elitist" type builds that get thrown around here

He plays for fun

[cerulean smelt]

looks like an old PVP build before elmo's made it's way in and Bighorn

[strong cave]

Ye before the nerfs you had enough crits to deal without Ceska, now ceska is mandatory for nearly all builds DPS wise

Especially this one

[autumn yacht]

but the devs told him he was banned after that

[strong cave]

I must've missed it then. I don't watch that closely. I'll do some digging

Yeah nah his title confuses me. Regardless, he's not a hardcore player

[cerulean smelt]

probably like the guy i watch for gig work. puts things up watch it and it's just him reading a letter sent to him, but the title seems doom for gig workers

[surreal moth]

Whats the go to full dmg drone/turret build you'd recommend? Cause in the Sheet I see multiple and I don't really know which one to go for

[strong cave]

I wouldn't exactly know, would need to take a look myself

[cerulean smelt]

i liked @hexed steppe 's hybrid build. it's pretty fun XD

[strong cave]

I don't play skill builds except healer/crowd control bc they're the only known viable ones

Local has some decent builds for skills. Mortar go boom boom

[cerulean smelt]

his is 5 highends with memento and capacitor as main weapon, that thing shreds!

[strong cave]

Yup that sounds like a Local build lol

[cerulean smelt]

if you told or showed me that 3 to 6 months ago i'd think you were pulling my chain

[onyx sage]

y'all saw my god mode build

[cerulean smelt]

wish i had that video where a guy made a satire out about streamer build videos, but apparently i didn't save it 😭

oh i found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z1av1FEd5Y&list=LL&index=1&t=130s

[hexed steppe]

yeah, the turrret drone guide has a few options for sure. are you more solo or team oriented when you plan on using it?

[surreal moth]

Solo

Plan to use it for some harder solo content

[hexed steppe]

start a personal discord channel, if you havent already, and start saving that stuff. what i do anyways💯

[cerulean smelt]

never thought of that honestly

[hexed steppe]

my personal goto on that guide is the afk/aok (left side). its sitting on 20-30% armor on kill and high damage

[cerulean smelt]

thanks for that idea local deck!

[hexed steppe]

the hanna and sacrifice can be swapped to 3 empress which is really easy to farm

[solar sable]

yeah, pretty much this (will delete later, mods)

[hexed steppe]

gunner and palisades is 10% armor on kill each, then mop is another 10%aok when in hand.

[cerulean smelt]

i still haven't really messed with a skill effiency build i put together. 3 empress, 2 monkey and memento to see how that fares

[cerulean smelt]

nods yeah i just created it and made it private so only i will see it and can put things in

[hexed steppe]

and you do nitro, right? each server can have so many emoji... anyways let me shut my trap about off topic 🤐

[cerulean smelt]

yes, i pay for it yearly, been tempted to do another 3 boots for server tag but can't justify it

[surreal moth]

Why not the named Hana backpack

[hexed steppe]

low uptime, better for burst damage. i prefer force multiplier on mortar since im going for max damage, but with turret drone constantly working you constantly have to be proccing

tech support better there

refactor is a good option as well but i only use it in groups where i keep the refactor chest for better heals with ok damage

just remember you can use whatever spec if you have all 6 skilltiers on the gear

[cerulean smelt]

my build you lurked on i'm trying to accomplish that so i can go survivalist with fire nade sledgehammer XD

[hexed steppe]

yeah that can be handy for sure. ez damage

[surreal moth]

But wouldnt I be shooting stuff constantly for capacitor stacks anyways?

[hexed steppe]

you wouldnt need to constantly. you would just pop some stuff to top off or if they got to close

if its easy for you to maintain it, then definitely go for it.. people always say memento is a solo bag , but i give no f's and use it in group anyways

[surreal moth]

I already have a very nice Force Multiplier so I will try to get a normal version too so I can try both varients and see what I like more

[hexed steppe]

thatll be best bet. remember the guides are a starting point. not the be all end all

[surreal moth]

That is true but they are often from people that have a lot more experience with the game then me

[cerulean smelt]

i just think of the builds as additional tutorial

[autumn yacht]

@solar sabledo you have a particular hotshot build for summit or just whats in the doc

[solar sable]

just what is in the document:
3pc hotshot
Chainkiller
Fox's Prayer
Airaldi w/Vigilance

I use fox's cuz why not and Decoy as main skill

[cerulean smelt]

5 pieces? no 6th?

[solar sable]

shhhh no one saw nothing

[oblique crane]

is there builds document?

[solar sable]

check pins

[oblique crane]

this one?

Over on Reddit players have started a build collection that could be interesting as reference:

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/l1fx3o/january_2021_division_2_season_4_build_compendium/

[cerulean smelt]

this one

[autumn yacht]

ill prob just go for 4pc hot chain chest and hasburg bp or smth

[solar sable]

I'm so effin stressed right now I can't think clearly outside of what I'm doing

[solar sable]

no, that's not it

[subtle bluff]

First thing I saw was FB and closed it... God...

[honest moss]

The builds here are all you need, literally. There is everything. Plus everyone is super helpful.

[queen epoch]

What’s the benefits of ceska

[subtle bluff]

More CHC (Crit hit Chance)

[verbal gust]

Got a carbine 7 with measured absolutely loving it lol

[cyan drift]

dude eee is my favorite bonus

also I hope Azurmen sees this

[forest trail]

ping him

[faint badge]

My friend and me have the Same Build Same Stats etc why does he 8 mil dmg and I max 4.4

[little oriole]

anybody have a grupo sombra s.a backpack with vigilance they can drop me cant find one for the life of me

[subtle bluff]

plz don't

[forest trail]

did it become prohibited or what

[subtle bluff]

I can get it fixed without ping him

[forest trail]

oop i didn't know you can edit that

thought only him and like 2 other people lol

[subtle bluff]

It's very few people. I'd rather not bother him. He hasn't touched it for a while.

[forest trail]

makes sense

[rich lotus]

whats the best obtainable gun rn for a dps build? i been tryna get the backfire but no luck yet

[solar sable]

Any High End AR with 800+ RPM is great.
For exotics I think it depends on range and weapon talent but Elmo's is the common pick, it's not the best but exotics are not always BiS for builds.

[rich lotus]

i didnt play when elmos was around so

[shy willow]

You can still go farm one lol

[rich lotus]

wow, rlly cant trust google for info lol

[rich lotus]

also what is considered as high end?

[shy willow]

Gold

[rich lotus]

shouldnt the damage play into some thing tho too?

[solar sable]

if rpm is low then no, it's not always better except for MMRs

[shy willow]

Base damage stats on most things are meaningless

[rich lotus]

so 74.2k dmg with 900rpm would be good?

[solar sable]

sounds like an smg, which one?

[rich lotus]

burn out

assault rifle

[shy willow]

Just get a normal famas and put measured or killer or something on it

Or any assault rifle really

[solar sable]

naval is an average player, I wouldn't trust his word

[shy willow]

[rich lotus]

idk if im doing smthn wrong, i have an AR that has killer on it but i cant put it into the talents library

its not named either

[astral kraken]

does it say perfect killer or just killer

[rich lotus]

just killer

[astral kraken]

did you favorite it?

[rich lotus]

nope

[astral kraken]

are you a virgo?

lol not sure... screenshot maybe?

[rich lotus]

stupid h me had the bloody thing equipped

im gonna guess u cant recalibrate named weapons?

[subtle bluff]

I am

[subtle bluff]

You can... Just the 2.

[astral kraken]

obviously

[onyx sage]

i'm a taurus

[hazy steeple]

I am a human being with blood and the correct amount of limbs.

[onyx sage]

so you lied about being an AI

how could you lie on the internet?

[hazy steeple]

I can't possibly be an AI, now if you would just direct me to your human settlement....

[onyx sage]

right this way please

[astral kraken]

we've gathered all our favorite people in one place for you!

[stray venture]

lowk need a peak striker build please

[odd ginkgo]

Check the pins for the Striker build. It's gotta be near the best.

[stray venture]

looked in pings, don’t see a thing

[solar sable]

in the Spreadsheet

[stray venture]

see, i’m a donut and clicked the other link

[odd ginkgo]

That's fine, most everyone likes donuts.

[subtle bluff]

I want a donut!

[worn mango]

I don't ever wanna believe YT builds, but unironically saw a Vigil/Scabbard/HF with Oreo/ACS and it just looked fun

[odd ginkgo]

Just because it is on YT doesn't mean it's a bad build. The elitists here prefer raid builds. Plenty of fun stuff out there on YT. Three of my favorite builds came from Sgt Greybeard on The Gaming Brigade YT channel. They work fine in Heroic content.

[candid talon]

If you're good at the game random mismatching purple gear is good for heroic

When people build it's usually addressed to peak content, not stuff you could clear with a broom

[subtle bluff]

Raid builds?
Almost any build solo will work in solo heroic doesn’t mean there good builds.

[subtle bluff]

I don’t get line…

[candid talon]

When people make top builds, it's for hard content, not because "it can clear heroic", anything can clear heroic. Fun doesn't necessarily mean good. Building for "fun" is one thing, building for "optimal", well, you won't find a lot of "optimal" on youtube before everyone else already knows about it, you'll find novelties that can work or work because of a specific event or something, but for the most part, all the top performing builds have been known and honestly havent' changed drastically (minus PVP) in quite a few seasons.

[astral kraken]

Nothing can stop my raid builds. Clears legendary in 10 minutes flat!

iKia's build collection has over 48 awesome builds. If you include variants it's 75+.

[subtle bluff]

Top build….

[astral kraken]

Every single one is solid for the content it's meant for.

[subtle bluff]

Also make?

The DPS striker build has been the same for a Really long time why YouTube don’t make videos on it.

[candid talon]

Because everyone knows it's good

It's been good for like 2 years, the only difference is chest or obliterator, really

[subtle bluff]

If everyone knows why do we have to post guides about it everyday..

Longer than that.

[candid talon]

Because casuals also play the game?

[astral kraken]

Because people go on YT and the algorithm boosts clickbait instead of well established quality content. So YTers are incentized to make "new" builds (usually with Ninja bag b/c you can swap in more random pieces) and use misleading titles. New players see the algorithm boosted bad content, waste time farming for it, confused why things are so hard, and come here. @subtle bluff rate my answer

[subtle bluff]

Quoting you said “Everyone” so…

[candid talon]

Yes, casuals

Everyone is never "everyone". Nothing in the world encompasses "everyone". It's everyone worth their salt. Everyone who has been around for more than two weeks.

[subtle bluff]

wtf….

[candid talon]

Everyone who is serious about grinding and building

Everyone else just tell them to slap together umbra and GS with vigilance BP to teach them how to play

[subtle bluff]

Striker is the prefect grinding build.

You like to play words here seem like, it’s pointless to repeat yourself or make us repeat ourselves.

[astral kraken]

pgc should be mandatory for new players #changemymind

[candid talon]

You'll certainly learn if you stick with it

[subtle bluff]

I love when I see new players using GC.

[candid talon]

"Play words"? What does that even mean? 😂

[subtle bluff]

You and using Everyone in different ways after saying it a few times already.

[candid talon]

You're just being way too literal about the word "everyone". Context is important. I mentioned people who were serious about the game and I also mentioned that there hasn't been a new "meta build" in a long time. That's who I mean with "everyone". Not casual players who look for YT/Reddit for gaming tips.

[loud pine]

completely based take

get them on pgc pesti builds

[candid talon]

Reddit in general is not "competitive" friendly, it's usually way more about fluff and YT promotes spamming videos and clickbait for profit. As a gamer in a generalized manner, if those are your usual sources for information you're literally just scratching the tip of the iceberg.

[loud pine]

none of this woke backfire hazpro nonsense

[candid talon]

That build to me always felt like something that takes way too long to farm / requires too much investment for what you get out of it.

[pallid flax]

hey, i need an advice for 2man legendary setups. what is a good comp there to practice?

[astral kraken]

keep it simple. 2 striker with obliterate ceska chest.

[pallid flax]

full red with backpack or memento and some blues?

[astral kraken]

full red, no memento

you can run memento if you want a little cushion/safety but if you're actually practicing just go full red

also a lot of this personal preference and sorta based on your abilities, know what i mean?

[pallid flax]

yeah we want to give it a try finally, long time ago we cleared the first 3 legendary stronghold with a turrent/drone build, but never touched this content again

[astral kraken]

so like you can do a bunch of variants to see what you like:

• striker with chest/bp and 1 blue core
• striker with memento and 1 blue core or even 2 blue cores
• full red striker obliterate and 1 blue core. maybe have 1 coyote in the group and the other grupo.

blues are mostly just to make your shield stronger. if you're not running a shield then no point in blues imo.

you can also have one guy running headhunter/determined if they like that play style

for roosevelt and capitol that's really strong

[pallid flax]

ok, but in general no healer

i was thinking about 1 heal and 1 dps

[astral kraken]

you can try. if you do then have the healer run future initiative to buff the dps's damage.

the problem with 1 healer 1 dps is now you can only cover 1 spawn at a time

the safest way to run duos is for 2 people to split up and cover different spawns

and if there's only 1 spawn you just melt it down

also... keep in mind that every legendary mission has safe approaches for almost every encounter. if you get stuck on an encounter you can ask here and ppl will give you some strats.

when you're learning it's good to just run the safe strats first until you memorize the spawns. then you can do some aggressive pushes since you know what to expect.

[pallid flax]

alright thanks for the advices. so we should start with somthing like this and keep learning and going

[astral kraken]

yep. assuming your chc/chd is optimal. drop the acs since you won't be stack building. i copied toasteyxgod and run an smg with unwavering. massive sustained dps when things get too close.

also run gunner specialization for the aok, minigun, fire rate, and faster reload

[astral kraken]

if you can use cover well then running decoy+emp sticky is a huge benefit. decoy to distract enemies can make encounters really easy. emp sticky to deal with annoying enemies like grenade dogs.

but shield and revive hive is a good start especially if you use safe strats

[pallid flax]

ok, thanks, one last question, carnage ongoing + striker would work too?

[astral kraken]

nah, keep it simple

you can't pair ongoing with striker anyway

[pallid flax]

nono 😄

[astral kraken]

and ongoing shines when you're buffing more than 1 person anyway

[pallid flax]

i mean i run carnage ongoing and my coop runs striker

[astral kraken]

keep it in your back pocket. the fun thing about legendary is you can run all kinds of interesting things to solve problems.

for example on tidal there's an encounter where ammo can be an issue b/c there are sooo many waves

ongoing might actually be a good fit there if you're playing it safe

but in general simple 2x striker solves most problems

[pallid flax]

ok thanks 🙂

[astral kraken]

gl 🙂

[spice junco]

hmmm i have no idea if this is close to good or bad🤔

[candid talon]

What is the goal of your build?

[spice junco]

do some damage

and just to have some kinda build for harder stuff

[frail moss]

Is it worth reconfiguring this strega roll?

[warm dock]

Anyone got a oxidiser build?

[loud pine]

Yea

dtoc always definitely not stability

[frail moss]

That seem better I'm guessing

so sad about the assault rifle damage being so close to 15 if it was max it'd be perfect i bet

[loud pine]

it would indeed its very strong

[honest moss]

Honestly that is more than fine, you can optimize the ARD like once or twice to be maxed out

[frail moss]

Oh didn't realise you can do that on exotics

[frail moss]

Thanks matey

So what would be recommended for st elmios engine? Or is the norm for most guns dmg to target out of cover?

[loud pine]

yea pretty much everything except lmgs which is crit chance because they already have dtoc

[frail moss]

Thanks mate you weren't lying btw this is busted I love it xD

[stark dawn]

Note that stacking guns (Ravenous, Scorpio, etc.) that are not used for damage may need something else than DTTOOC, e.g. rate of fire, magazine size

[loud pine]

yea that too

[slate wedge]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/MwTgtOCMlgDGlh2fVL2oFwBYBMEEZ5EEAODCtLYGKGepANgFZK2tt7sCr33NQBaH16i4mXNxLgxsypkiN83ECrC4kc4LAHhujJOA1hgjMAHZz8ja26X0jIvOYSknMNlZjtCqzRNIwOSiQA

if you can’t be bothered to farm for the named pieces, replace them with

• if 1 missing: 1 pc wyvern
• if 2 missing: 1 pc wyvern + 1 pc hana-u
• if 3 missing: 1 pc wyvern + 2 pcs hana-u

[warm dock]

Thankyou very much

[slate wedge]

no problem👍

[river fern]

Hi guys! Just getting started to improve my build. Any advice? This is the one I'm using right now

[arctic thunder]

guys i just had some attempts as Striker Red on TB legendary in a grp of 4, the others were 2 supp + 1 shd 40 so i was pretty much the only DPS. Im only ~400 SHD and Expertise <10 myself, so not full build, but most items maxroll/optimized, correct attributes anyways.
Guns was E6 Elmo almost maxed (dtooc ofc), lefty for stacks, coyote mask + ceska knees, 4p striker with chest&bp. I had two Problems:

a) hard to stack, our grp was sitting back and i didnt get too many opps for acs stacking... and just elmo peak stacking yeah...
b) even fully stacked the elmo was not blasting enough.

So TlDr: wanna do more dmg in a sitback&camp legendary grp setting.
What should i try? Other weapon loadout? Dump the coyote? Say F it if we play peaking games striker sucks anyways?
Cause we made it twice to the "drop down now there is no ammo crate LOL" part and eventually got overwhelmed, and it felt like a different loadout couldve given us the edge and that IRKS ME.

[tired falcon]

Is that the part just before the hangar entrance?
You don't really need support builds until you get to the last part (checkpoint).
Ideally you have one healer or crowd control, the rest dps.
Determined headshot builds works well for tidal basin due to the very long target distances.
You can speed up the run having someone run a standard hotshot Determined build.
Besides that I would have one person running Ongoing Directive or Refactor/Future Initiative/Measured Assembly/Eclipse

[astral kraken]

You can't really stack with ACS in most legendary encounters unless you run an extremely tanky build (at which point you won't do much damage even at full stacks). Legendary enemies hit really really hard so you can't DPS trade with them in order to build stacks at close range with an ACS. I would just ditch the ACS.

At SHD 400 and the only DPS... that's going to be tough no matter what. If you get overrun in that encounter that just means there isn't enough DPS on the team.

DPS is the foundation of every team. You need at least 2 solid DPS builds in a 4 player team. Otherwise your support builds aren't supporting anything.

That's a big problem in legendary matchmaking right now. Everyone wants to be healer, support, turret/drone, etc but no one wants to run DPS... because those others seem easy and don't require knowledge of the mission (which is not true btw).

Anyway for that encounter an LMG really helps. Bullet King is good. Iron Lung is good for getting that annoying turret guy off the turret. MK46 with Frenzy is great but you'll run out of ammo faster.

[glad heart]

Not to mention, that the NPCs focus on the one doing the most damage: aka the DPS players.... (a reason everyone wants to be support rather than dps.

[astral kraken]

This is how you should start the encounter in the situation you described. Try to peek just barely out and the left half of your view is mostly safe.

When the first wave of choppers comes in don't worry about the chunga chopper. Focus the one further back with the medic and support guy. Chunga is not dangerous. If the support station goes down then it gets really annoying. You can see even in my case he was overhealed and I couldn't get him but I got him shortly after that.

When the next chopper wave comes shoot the drone operator that rappels down. Her backpack will be facing you. If you can get the medic, the support station guy, and the drone operator then the first half is much easier.

And don't forget the minitanks 😉

Grenade dog is important too. Man that room is a PITA when first learning it lol

[glad heart]

Which LMG are you running in video?

[astral kraken]

MK46 with Frenzy. It's my new favorite.

[glad heart]

Thanks

[astral kraken]

This is what it should feel like when you have enough DPS. You can see that we can just start pushing the helicopter spawns. The drone operator makes an appearance at the end.

Wipe the choppers then wipe the gate spawns one after the other.

(we are still a low DPS team here btw, with a full DPS team it goes even faster)

[sudden cloak]

All I'm watching is black screen lol

[astral kraken]

idk works for me

[sudden cloak]

Maybe cause I'm on my phone lol

[hazy steeple]

It's showing up on the desktop app, but it does look a little like you're out of the Optimal Range.

It's hard to tell exactly.

[arctic thunder]

Yeah im always struggling with "do i prioritize the target i have right now or the one that matters more", or with overstaying a peak if i get shot back just to finish off a guy. Our group was pretty doomed yeah, shouldve had the low SHD guy on support to have a chance. I think they were on a HF build lol. Me being below max SHD for my build didnt help either. It was a matchmade grp, and i was just going with the ropes. Didn't clear TB Leg myself yet either. I am looking for more weapons than just Elmo to target farm and/or optimize out, and expertise up. Sadly no lexington/CT as i am newer/missed the shepard event. Lmg sounds like the play for Strikers in TB though yeah, bit easier to stack than AR and shield is kinda meh anyways. I will look for more non Exotic stuff.

Vids are working fine for me but im also on Desktop.

[arctic thunder]

What gear are you running along the Mk46 here? Is it still 4p Striker ceska coyote?

[tired falcon]

oh he meant this part....yeah... @arctic thunder just have one person stay at top, rest drops down; ideally the one staying above runs Future Initiative build. If rest gets pushed they can fast travel. Healer drops healer hive down, other skill should be healer drone. Just wait there until that section is done. It's what I do anyway

[astral kraken]

Strongly disagree about having someone stay top. That person is basically useless because they can't see anything.

And there's no cover for them at all

[tired falcon]

and that's why Future Initiative is used

[tired falcon]

no cover for whom? The one at top? Sure there is. You can just hug the wall

[astral kraken]

FI can debuff with scorpio and throw fire grenades

There's nothing for them to do up there

[tired falcon]

depends on the group; if they're steamrolling then sure, they can go down. Otherwise, if I'm the healer I stay up there just in case rest of the team gets pushed and can't recover. I can then change skills to revive hive and decoy so that team can be revived. It all depends on how things have gone until that point

[astral kraken]

No there's never a reason to be up there. If someone goes down the healer can revive them. Standing around and changing skills is time lost. What'll actually happen is another DPS will waste time picking up a teammate and now you only have 1 person shooting.

And if the healer is changing skills to revive hive now their revive hive is on cooldown.

Which means no heal hive... and no healer...

[tired falcon]

lol I just gave you the reason. You're telling me that out of all the times you've run tidal legendary with randoms that you've never once been in a group where the combined dps output wasn't quite good enough. I'd rather play it safe and not have to redo the mission from start

[solar sable]

Exp 30 on almost everything? You made some overcap farm before nerf didn't you? lmao

[astral kraken]

You damn right I did LOL

[astral kraken]

I have plenty of runs with extremely DPS lacking teams. There's never a reason to be up there. There's a difference between playing it safe and gimping your team. That's too safe and ends up hurting everyone more than it helps. You don't gain anything by being up there. I consider that less safe, not more safe. Sometimes getting into the action is more safe.

If the team starts to get rolled and you wanna cheese your way out of it you can just fast travel while you're down there. Being up high doesn't do anything.

[sudden cloak]

You can fast travel to anyone in the group, it'll take you to the previous checkpoint

[astral kraken]

(even if they're dead)

[tired falcon]

I've tried that, doesn't work for me

[astral kraken]

There's a delay after getting shot at

Just dip into the back corner and you're good

[tired falcon]

nah, I've tried all the possible ways in that area, irrespective of where I am. Something bugs out and the game either doesn't fast travel me at all or I respawn on myself, which is kind of funny

[astral kraken]

Serves you right! Go down fighting!

Wiping doesn't matter anyway, it's a leg mission

[tired falcon]

lol I'd rather take the extra few minutes compared to restarting the mission 😛

[astral kraken]

to each their own!

[tired falcon]

there's an area by the fence, right side of the gate, sometimes the game will think you're out of bounds and auto respawn you in the previous section. Happened to me a few times

[sudden cloak]

I mean I can get tidal done in 40min with my clan, much better than when they first ran tidal

[glad heart]

Just curious, do you run that build in a situation where you can and do get flanked, or forbid they spawn behind you? Seems to me this build is for a controllable choke point...

[reef imp]

How do you guys build for Ouro? Just got it today and want to try it out.

I was thinking maybe hunters fury but I want to take advantage of the talent on the ouro

[arctic thunder]

Cheers, why the Mk46 over other LMGs with Frenzy? I dont know the bases too well, but looks like GR9 or Stoner are top dps with +50 mag

[astral kraken]

i run it for the whole mission

altho if boss room goes to complete hell ill switch to pfe just to get it done

[astral kraken]

because of uptime of frenzy. with that mag size and rpm you can have frenzy up a lot.

rpm is 978 and mag size is 150. 150/16.3 = 9.2 seconds. frenzy lasts for 9 seconds.

then once you have the buff the rpm will go up obviously, but im not firing continuously most of the time

so i just end up having frenzy more frequently with that gun

[arctic thunder]

Makes sense! What do you think of a Sleipnir? 100mag + p. frenzy sounds fun.

[astral kraken]

last time i checked the dps tables it kinda fell off

yea: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NnkQaEjFDHpF8JIMR1lOBJ_Ap7lO1lzHoESAT4Q0dtA/edit?usp=sharing

i think b/c it's an mg5 under the hood

[arctic thunder]

Hm both burst and sustained dps seem ok compared to the Mk46 150. Bit less burst , similar sustained. Should be easier to play with the 100 mag and faster reload

[onyx sage]

you basically favor burst a lot more than sustained in this game

[astral kraken]

the other problem is mag size. with a 100 mag you are reloading more frequently and that'll affect frenzy uptime.

but honestly just feel it out, its not a hard gun to get

focus less on the damage aspect but how often you can frenzy up

then if you like the frenzy uptime, optimize/grade the gun

better burst is nice tho

[arctic thunder]

yeah fair, just have the BP for sleipnir (idk if randomly) and thought its easier to get a good roll there than farm countdown for specifically the mk46 (cuz the others in between are even less worth the effort vs just sleip). Helps me feel the gameplay and performance fast.

[onyx sage]

you get the blueprint after finishing gunner track iirc

[arctic thunder]

Speaking of LMG DPS, did you try a pestilence/crit setup? The idea sounds great to me, pieces are a pain to grab tho.

[astral kraken]

Yea I actually posted a DPS comparison reddit. Mostly for fun, nothing too scientific. I ran the first few rooms of DUA with various guns and compared the times: https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/1komhpt/dps_comparison_elmo_vs_bullet_king_vs_lexington/

Pesti striker was pretty good. Better than high end pesti.

Pesti's issue is the reload time. The damage it does doesn't make up for it like frenzy does.

This was with old modifiers btw which'll skew results in various ways. Like it made the bluescreen way better than it is now.

[onyx sage]

there was a time when iron lung felt really bad to use. now it's been buffed twice

[astral kraken]

you inspired me to use that thing, it's amazing

the best part about it is how it gets enemies out from hiding

and stops them while they're running fast horizontally on your screen

[grand spear]

Great if you have any of the effects spreader loads running.

[onyx sage]

the underrated thing about it is it makes dttooc active more on suppressable enemies, the bad thing is it does nothing on enemies that are naturally out of cover, it's worse than a lmg in this aspect

[subtle bluff]

I’m gonna do this with my HE pesti but you had modifiers on..

[astral kraken]

yea worth a try

[subtle bluff]

I built my HE different was to dealing with reload and getting more dmg out out.

[astral kraken]

eagle's grasp?

[subtle bluff]

Scabbard and turmoil

[astral kraken]

aah scabbard

i forgot that existed lol. used to use it for so long then got tired of it.

[subtle bluff]

Only use it 2 builds pesti and a speed tanker top left..

[astral kraken]

thats why i like frenzy. feels like scabbard but without all the dancing

[subtle bluff]

The playstyle to use it isn't easy to get use to. I'm only good at it because of speed running with it.

[cerulean smelt]

do you have a build that specifically wants you swapping weapons? been thinking of making a build based on it, but haven't gotten around starting it

[subtle bluff]

I mean I do it with pesti. I don't pull the build much. Then the other is in fight in the incursion

[astral kraken]

the way i've used it was just the pistol-main double swap for a fast reload and big dps boost

with a bullet king tho

[subtle bluff]

Use it with unwavering and orbit.

[hazy pike]

Can someone help me make a build around the eagle bearer and chest talent perfectly unbreakable for pvp I don’t have An idea on what I want to do

[rich lotus]

What set is better to run for DPS with Elmo's engine.. negotiators dilemma or striker

[subtle bluff]

Both are good

[rich lotus]

But if one were better than the other whiche would it be

[subtle bluff]

#td2-pvp-discussions take a loot in here maybe someone will reponse there quicker too.

[subtle bluff]

Strikers then

I've carried more with nego but striker overall is better.

[hexed steppe]

Striker is higher single target damage.
Nego is highest multi target damage.
Personally I use nego for most dps, then Striker for legs

[solar sable]

now I see the typos

[subtle bluff]

Funny.. I enjoy using nego more for on scaling with more hit points.

I did not English that well at all..

[verbal gust]

You speaky likey me nowey!

[lofty frigate]

i'm suprised hollywood GE with big show negotiator xD

[subtle bluff]

Throw on a nade launcher and it's soo much quicker.

[lofty frigate]

negotiator dealt is counting thunder strike stacks

[subtle bluff]

Oh you mean that. I guess.

[near elm]

I need a bleed build, please.

[subtle bluff]

More context to this question plz

[solar sable]

already answered

[cerulean smelt]

typical new person joining spamming the question in most channels they can muster XD

[subtle bluff]

AH….

[solar sable]

yeah idk why people think like that

[subtle bluff]

It’s worse when they spam 3 or 4 servers. Me and lo5t have tracked this and kind of do the same when we see it.

[cerulean smelt]

nods it's kind of humorous when they do multiple servers multiple channels

[subtle bluff]

I can’t do the Kirby spin emoji sadly here.

[cerulean smelt]

shame there's no multi server bot that can detect when one does that and just deletes all their messages and DM's them "no need to spam the same message to multiple servers and channels"

[hexed steppe]

just keep posting the same answer in ever server , match their energy

[hazy steeple]

We'd be out of a job, don't take er jobs!

[buoyant willow]

This is just advice for anyone who needs it, I don’t know any specifics but I know I needed to hear it a LONGGGG time ago.
Don’t be afraid to mix concepts if it makes the game easier for your playstyle. I mean that as in my build is sniper and shotgun, I use cluster mines and stinger-hives, all of my armor is best for skill stuff (forgot the brand), and my specialization is demolition. It may not be best for most but I tend to be better with that than any other set up.
Yk how I found out about what worked best? Trying it in pve. If you die a lot, so what? Your not losing much anyways normally and your getting a chance to see what set up you work with best

[cerulean smelt]

just an FYI: heroic missions you tend to start way at the beginning of the mission. normal and hard i know you can just start from something like a checkpoint for the room you last cleared, haven't done challenging enough lately so it might be in that same boat of normal and hard difficulty

[autumn yacht]

dont run perfectly ub, honestly ub isnt very good in pvp

[hot inlet]

Ollo, been away from the Div 2 for A LONG TIME... the Eagle assault riffle was the craze back then. Anyways, looking to get back into it but feel lost now. What are some of the good weapons to have now a days?

[autumn yacht]

check the build doc in the pins

[solar sable]

Exotics:

1. St. Elmo's
2. Capacitor
3. Nemesis
4. Scorpio
   Exotic Gear
5. BTSU Gloves
6. Coyote's
7. Memento

High End
Any AR with 800+ RPM.

[autumn yacht]

feel like 'good guns' dont really make sense without the context of builds

[solar sable]

exotics aren't always BiS for builds so...

[autumn yacht]

he just asked ab good weapons with no context

[main parcel]

Does anyone know what the system corruption gear set does? If so, what kind of content is it good for, and what would be a good build for it?

[solar sable]

and I gave a list of almost* all the must have gear

[autumn yacht]

basically a super strong medkit every 60 seconds, not good for anything tho

[main parcel]

Okay thanks

[fair ether]

How would you nerf determined without making it worthless?

[cerulean smelt]

flip the perfect determined and determined maybe? or would that make it worthless considering the weapons the perfect is on?

[fair ether]

I think it would make the prophet the best pistol in the game and make the general talent worthless

[subtle bluff]

You mean fix it? It's glitch atm and doesn't work as intended.

[fair ether]

Iirc they did release a fix for it, people hated the fix and in the next patch they undid the "fix"

[hexed steppe]

it proved so "difficult" to fix that the wording was changed on normal determined...
-# nothing to see here

[subtle bluff]

The Harvest is better by far.

[fair ether]

It's also been like this for about 2 years now so it's not going back to that fix

[hexed steppe]

you never know. they have circled back before

[fair ether]

Not if the shot is also a guaranteed crit and works like the regular determined

[cerulean smelt]

bill was referring to me about changing the perfect going to normal and the normal going to perfect, which would probably make the Prophet best if we keep the determined buff on it

[subtle bluff]

I'll math it. You guys really think.

[cerulean smelt]

currently perfect determined is a one shot thing isn't it?

[hexed steppe]

it would be nice to see it actually corrected, tbh...

1x guaranteed crit headshot after kill

doesnt reset itself like regular

[subtle bluff]

Imo why even use pistol when 1886 does more.

[fair ether]

I've been thinking about this for a few days and the best nerf I can think of is giving it a timer of 5-10 seconds and making it so if you miss your shot you lose the buff.

[cerulean smelt]

what if it went during combat only? so you lose combat determined goes poof?

[hexed steppe]

im just kinda surprised it wasnt fixed prior. perfect works as intended

[cerulean smelt]

leave my pistol build alone! (> <)

[fair ether]

It just sucks that the perfect version is a down grade of the common one

[subtle bluff]

What SHD watch CHD again 40?

[cerulean smelt]

tell me about it. was surprised

[fair ether]

Should be 20

[subtle bluff]

Anyone confirm quickly?

Found it 20

[cerulean smelt]

was going to say if only i knew exactly what you were asking
assumed what shd level 1 should be to have it full maybe?

[hazy steeple]

Just in case you forgot: it's in the spreadsheet.

[subtle bluff]

4,137,715 256,610. Harvest
4,004,174 233,278. Prophet

[hazy steeple]

see folks, even the vets have a senior moment.

[subtle bluff]

I’m mobile hard to run back forward from sheets.

[hexed steppe]

👴

[subtle bluff]

@fair ether yea Harvest still does more

That higher base dmg is too much.

[cerulean smelt]

even if you flipped the determined?

[hexed steppe]

those are crit headshots?

[devout iris]

any backfire smg build? cause i wanted to see if i should pull it out of the stash, and wanted to make it a dps

[subtle bluff]

This is with just one HS with and without crit

[fair ether]

Is that number assuming the harvest is doing crit as well?

[hexed steppe]

striker, hunters fury

[subtle bluff]

No crit for harvest

[devout iris]

red core or blue core and how many

[hazy steeple]

I think I had that album in 2003.

[fair ether]

Interesting. I'll have to test it in the firing range but good to know

[hexed steppe]

if you take part in the modifiers blue cores can give hazpro with one of the passive mods

[cerulean smelt]

i do enjoy my determined harvest (> <)

[hexed steppe]

👆

forgot my tag

[devout iris]

one blue?

[subtle bluff]

Trying reminding of my senior HS

[spiral drift]

where can i farm the striker 4 pc set? and also the blackfire? (new to endgame)

[hazy steeple]

We could all do with more Puddle of Mud in our lives.

[devout iris]

so if i wann put my backfire in a striker build, do i need all to be blue core and 1 to be red core?

[cerulean smelt]

challenging countdown

[subtle bluff]

I knew this was gonna be. 20 CHD isn’t a lot vs 15% WD

[hexed steppe]

there was a striker backfire that was making its rounds. a few were going all blue but i dont think its realle necessary

[spiral drift]

what is countdown and where is that? and is there a specific reason as to why i should do it on challenging ?

[subtle bluff]

Can I forward rivens post of my video?

[cerulean smelt]

believe they said it was nothingbutskillz build video for this season

[hexed steppe]

i can forward if need

[fair ether]

Damn harvest is 15% WD? I thought it was at most 10. I should take that back out of storage and play around with it again

[cerulean smelt]

countdown is a game mode. believe to the right of DC map. it's suggested since you can set your target loot to most things in game and challenging is just less hassle difficulty wise but you can try for heroic

[subtle bluff]

Harvest is too strong

[hexed steppe]

https://youtu.be/R6vJhXTo0lI?si=7Qj-eJX-zv2b-xYu

[subtle bluff]

above

[hexed steppe]

bf mostly for boss burns, right?

[spiral drift]

ooh ty, yeah i play on heroic even though im new because i find challenging too easy still

[devout iris]

cause i was thinking of making a backfire with armor core with hazpro

[subtle bluff]

Watch and read the video

[hexed steppe]

on a serious note, you think i would get kicked out of leg tidal if i bring my decoy meme build

[subtle bluff]

IMO HF is better.

[cerulean smelt]

DO EEEET!

[devout iris]

i was thinking of striker cause of the ROF here

[hexed steppe]

challenging has a higher completion rate. sometimes it drops people so you might be extracting lacking some damage

[subtle bluff]

If it could hold agro against an “ @onyx sage “

[onyx sage]

why am i catching strays?

[subtle bluff]

I was typing average and so..

[hexed steppe]

idk, 219 threat with almost never ending uptime

i dont have a lot of faith in it tho. did ok in heroic and was popping shield fields

[subtle bluff]

I’m down to run with you with it

[cerulean smelt]

drag average with ya XD

be like "come average we're going on a great adventure!"

[hexed steppe]

lets do it, im always down to be carried

L05t coming too

[onyx sage]

okay holup

[subtle bluff]

LOL tomorrow I’ll do it

[subtle bluff]

???

[onyx sage]

i didn't sign up to this...

[subtle bluff]

We didn’t sign you up for anything

You’re just the example of @onyx sage

[cerulean smelt]

lol mrchow

[hexed steppe]

more like pressed into service

[onyx sage]

i'm going to be staring at the floor waiting for a hive

[subtle bluff]

GOD DAMNIT why does it do that

[cerulean smelt]

you cherish average player?

[subtle bluff]

No just the shining example of what a

[hexed steppe]

come now, you know youll be invisible to npcs

[subtle bluff]

I can’t type it or it’s do it again

[onyx sage]

i'm just gonna say, i was in the presence of an overcharged decoy, and they still focused me

[cerulean smelt]

i can feel it now. Local is inspecting my build and is asking "what is that monstrosity of a build!" XD

[devout iris]

well im gonna try anfd get a set of striker with blue core and have memento n it and see ho it handles

[hexed steppe]

-# troll mode active

[devout iris]

since i might just have CHD on my pieces

and a sokolov chest [piece