td2-build-advice

[cerulean smelt]

thanks. had a complete brain fart there

[subtle bluff]

what bitrate do you record in....

[astral kraken]

20000 kbps CBR

[subtle bluff]

that why we can't view these without a crazy buffer

[astral kraken]

i actually have to lower the bitrate when exporting so it stays <500mb

but good to know thx. i'll lower the bitrate more so the filesize is smaller.

every time you watch my video you use 500mb

[civic meteor]

Would a Catalyst True Patriot build smack or am I crazy

[subtle bluff]

My gif is like 31mb

[subtle bluff]

Crazy. It's crap.

[cerulean smelt]

not really, catalyst wants you to apply status effects to enemeis or yourself

[civic meteor]

Doesn’t true patriot apply status effects?

[subtle bluff]

‎

[cerulean smelt]

no they apply debuffs completely different from riot foam, fire, bleed, shock status effects

[civic meteor]

Ohhh ok

[subtle bluff]

Cata WD buff isn't doesn't make up for it's lost in CHC/CHD vs like Ceska piece.

[cerulean smelt]

@subtle bluff got any feed back?
not sure what a good secondary weapon would be in this case

want 3 new uzinas so i can go reds instead of blues

need a pic with modifiers off?

[subtle bluff]

what's going on here?

Prefect Clutch isn't good.

You know you can just get to like 50% bleed resti and then any repair skill (other than armor kits) will give you hazpro

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i might have to change that. didn't think i coudl get 100% haz pro on it so was hoping to use clutch to offset the bleeding

[subtle bluff]

You already know my take on not needing hazpro

[cerulean smelt]

true

[subtle bluff]

Go HF both Ceska Chest and BP

Intimated and Ad rush.

if you want some more hazpro go for it but that'll do you well

HF will CC things close so the bleed isn't so scary while you kill and stack up all the way.

[cerulean smelt]

and if we keep killing we get health and armor on kill so the bleed is just the visual annoyance

[astral kraken]

the bleed slows you

if you're bleeding a lot backfire isn't the play

[cerulean smelt]

yeah no kidding, but mrchow has a point that hazpro isn't really needed but everyone saw xcc show a video of 4 striker 2 other pieces doing big damage and come here asking questions about it like we all know what theyr'e talking about

[astral kraken]

im not saying you need hazpro

[subtle bluff]

The point people want is to be able to do dmg and take some.

Which I can get behind 100%

[astral kraken]

im saying if you're bleeding a lot then you're not doing an encounter where backfire is ideal

unless you just like the gun or something

forgot the "not" lol

chow is right tho, red hf and backfire is gr8

[cerulean smelt]

my build i posted pictures of was more of a "why not try this build over the streamers OMG BACKFIRE IS GODLY!" builds XD

[astral kraken]

well the optimal variants of backfire were figured out long ago

so if you want to run something suboptimal for funsies cool, just know its suboptimal is all

[cerulean smelt]

didn't those use the 5.11?

[astral kraken]

yep 6pc 5.11

unlocks a hidden talent called "Based Chad"

[cerulean smelt]

i'd love a backfire catalyst build for fun (> <)

[astral kraken]

i just hate smgs. they all suck.

[subtle bluff]

‎

Go for it

Go in dump a mag acs12 on someone then backfire the rest down

[cerulean smelt]

you think status effects on our gear would increase backfire bleeds we inflict on ourselves?

[subtle bluff]

idk test it

[frail tendon]

sorry for the stupid question but how do I find a good beginner skill damage focus build? My wife loves playing with the various robots and drones

[cerulean smelt]

pins in the upper right hand corner. spreadsheet link in there a builds hub. look under the yellow section and pick one that looks fun i'd say

[frail tendon]

yellow is skill?

[cerulean smelt]

localdeck here if you look at their profile has a link of builds they use. they opened my eyes to a hybrid skill build with memento

[cerulean smelt]

yeah anything in this is skill builds

according to localdeck the mortar supremacy is in order for the global event starting in a few hours

[frail tendon]

order?

[cerulean smelt]

i was going to say doctrine but might not be the correct term for that either. just like it's mandatory

[dreamy valve]

You’ll have to tap into the true power of blue cores for that to happen

If you have enough of them, then you can certainly do more damage and get more kills

Pure Damage spreadsheets can only take you so far on paper

[astral kraken]

blue cores are the new red cores #2025

[alpine tinsel]

Any good armor regen builds i can look into?

Having a lot of fun with strikers & chatterbox or chameleon or st elmos or a famas but i need to switch this up lmao

[slate wedge]

PvE or PvP?

[alpine tinsel]

PvE!

[solar sable]

armor regen in pve is not great tbh

[slate wedge]

then probably 4 piece foundry including the backpack with catharsis and pointman chest

for skills go bulwark shield and artificer hive with tdi kard custom or mosquito as your sidearm

all rolls to armor regen or hazprot

however you can only really play this in countdown or maybe in a 4 man group

[alpine tinsel]

a blue core build would pair beautifully with assault link

[solar sable]

||blue cores in PvE = skill issue||

[astral kraken]

no

no no no

[astral kraken]

when you run this build you are not playing. other people are playing. you are watching.

[slate wedge]

he asked for armor regen build

what else is a true armor regen build for you?

[subtle bluff]

I mean... Tbh we don't actually suggest tank builds.

[slate wedge]

you don’t wanna know what i use in Countdown then💀

[subtle bluff]

CD is kind of w/e

[slate wedge]

me neither, but foundry is probably the best armor regen build out there

[subtle bluff]

I can solo challenging CD.

[hoary sail]

better to build a heartbreaker i think

u will have some bonus armor nd dps with it

[slate wedge]

same, determined easy

but rn i run full pfe tank because of hardware limitations

[slate wedge]

well, that’s not an armor regen build tho

[hoary sail]

no but with ur build u are just a armor monster. U don't support ur team with it

[slate wedge]

he should have asked for a dps build with armor then

i could have also suggested a HF Ridgeways build tbf so that’s a bit on me

[leaden kayak]

Is there any good aoe dps builds ?

[candid talon]

Define good.

[stray atlas]

any ways to improve this do you think?

[candid talon]

Rifle/MMR Trauma works. Skill reset hive seeker mine is very serviceable. Many heartbreakers/bluescreen builds work. Future initiative is beyond tested and successful. So yeah, there's plenty.

[stray atlas]

i do have god rolled contractors gloves if the memnto might work better with that?

[terse scroll]

does anyone know any fun Hollywood builds? I feel like there can be something fun here if you can just constantly proc explosives

[stray atlas]

whats that?

[candid talon]

Hard Wired with BTSU gloves. DPS Hive and Seeker mine.

Throw seeker, drop hive, reset seeker, throw again, rinse repeat

[terse scroll]

skill haste on everything?

[candid talon]

If you run out of GAS, explode Hive and BTSU will return you all your stacks as well as putting you on overcharge

[candid talon]

Pointless. Your set already resets your skills. Just need skill damage and whatever you want next.

[terse scroll]

oh yeah true

[candid talon]

PfE, HazPro, etc.

[terse scroll]

might put that together, pretty much the same as my MA build but just hard wired

[candid talon]

This set is so safe I'd suggest glass cannon chest

[stray atlas]

what about the bluescreen build

[candid talon]

For bluescreen I use two builds, Bluescreen Heartbreaker with Nightwatcher mask and Exodus Gloves and another that isn't anywhere near as optimized as this so, this is the one I'd suggest.

Three blue cores (Nightwatcher and two HB pieces) but add as many blue cores as you feel like

[leaden kayak]

is this good at raids ?

[hoary sail]

no

[hoary sail]

in raids if u are new it's only dps red builds (weapon dmg)

[terse scroll]

anyone know what is buffing me in countdown? i was hitting like 3mil with my striker build

[hoary sail]

the screen i send it's a dmg explosive skill build

[terse scroll]

i know my own buffs, and coyote's but what else would be buffing me?

[hoary sail]

vangard the first buff in ur screen

[terse scroll]

what does it do?

[strong cave]

Vanguard only gives armor. He's talking about damage

[terse scroll]

yer this

[strong cave]

For me personally, I have not a clue. Is anyone running cavalier? Maybe just a shat load of coyote masks?

[hoary sail]

when a sheild is deploy it's gives in group 50% of ur total armor has bonus at all ur grp for perfect vangard

[eager viper]

For a turret-drone setup. Skill dmg or CHC/CHD?

[hoary sail]

skill dmg

[strong cave]

Skill damage

[eager viper]

I’ve seen some builds with CHD rolls. Any point to it?

[hoary sail]

no if it's a only skills build

[terse scroll]

Hmm, I didn't see anyone with anything crazy for buff builds. it looked like everyone was just running DPS build and some skill builds

[strong cave]

Depends. If it's a striker-skill build, that would be my only assumption

[strong cave]

Likely a ton of coyote buffs then

[eager viper]

Following some dude ikira?

He had CHd rolls

[terse scroll]

wish you could inspect everyone after the countdown is done, so crazy

[strong cave]

You mean iKiA?

[eager viper]

Yea. Whatever his name is. Got off his spreadsheet

[strong cave]

Post the build

[astral kraken]

that's honestly the best reason ive heard yet lol, legit

[strong cave]

Pre-game inspection helps a lot. But I fully get your confusion with the crazy damage. Even I can't explain it myself

[terse scroll]

yeah, it's always so mind boggling. just insane numbers sometimes in random countdowns

[eager viper]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1ht_FLSHV0bdOFjlQELzG80KeVcv0BkHd7sWb430lU18/edit?usp=drivesdk

[candid talon]

It's the countdown buffs from killing certain hunters. You can't replicate it outside of Countdown.

[strong cave]

I keep trying to debunk it Everytime it happens and usually it's somebody running Cavalier. Usually. You'll know somebody is running Cavalier when you see a meter icon with an electric type symbol over peoples heads

[candid talon]

You know the guys you go around killing right at the start before you start doing the missions? They're protecting some switches, when triggered, those switches turn debuffs into huge buffs.

That's literally all there is to it. It's not someone with a crazy build making you a God on earth. It's Countdown specific modifiers and that's why you can't replicate it outside. Also, Countdown enemies are legendary bullet sponges which enables builds like full strikers with chest so things get pretty insane in numbers.

[strong cave]

This setup ain't bad. This is mainly for using your turret and drone to shoot stuff up while also still doing damage with capacitor

Basically it's a "camp in cover and mindlessly shoot stuff" build

[eager viper]

Been using it. Doing ok. But was wondering about those CHd rolls

[slate wedge]

i mean it do be like that

[strong cave]

CHD boosts capacitor crits, giving more weapon damage

[eager viper]

Yea not sure who was boosting in a countdown but I was hitting 1.5mil with capacitor.

[slate wedge]

Maybe close range buff?

[eager viper]

No idea. But someone had some nice buffs going it seems

[terse scroll]

that makes sense tbh, i have read the debuffs/buffs a few times but eventually just ignored them since I think they change every match i think

[strong cave]

They usually do

They give you some buffs but nothing that should be 3.1m crit shots worth

I'm betting it was likely just coyote stacking or so. 25% close range with coyote and most fight close range in CD. I know you can only get 3x coyote buffs but there is 2 sub groups. CD might work differently. So if you have 6 people running coyote all shooting close range, 25%×6 = whole lot of damage. That might be why. I'm just spitballing and don't know the actual answer (but would love to know)

[slate wedge]

the Close Range Directive from Countdown (the ones you can turn from red to green at the yellow containers near the hunters) is kinda bugged and gives an insane amount of damage

[strong cave]

Well damn, so I was sorta half right. The more you know 😵‍💫🤯

[surreal moth]

What is the most efficient sniper build for things like farming named enemies for example

[astral kraken]

4pc hotshot, chainkiller chest, airaldi backpack with vigilance. rifle doesn't really matter unless it's one of the really weak ones. white death is most dmg but you can do m700, sr-71 (my pref), etc.

one shots nameds in solo

[surreal moth]

Is the Mantis any good?

Also any exotic armor that would be an upgrade?

Also do I go for crit chance and dmg on a sniper build or get headshot dmg on every piece?

[slate wedge]

it is good but with determined on a high-end sniper you are much faster (less skill required tho)

exotic gear i don’t think so

nothing that comes to mind right now, maybe sawyers kneepads but you need to stay still for them to work

[surreal moth]

I dont really have any good snipers at the ready, beside my good old Mantis

[slate wedge]

then use that one

[leaden kayak]

is there any top tier build lists ?

[odd ginkgo]

There is a build list spreadsheet in the pins.

[eager viper]

Is that sheet even updated?

[shy willow]

Meta hasn't changed

[surreal moth]

Whihc modifiers I want on my sniper gear?

[green stream]

what yall think of my expertise level

[mint axle]

assuming this is your screenshot, I think you are breaking rule 6.

[green stream]

nah thats my hermit crabs account

[vestal ibex]

idk bro asked the same thing yesterday too.

Considering the gun is still 111.24K damage it's just a visual thing or something.

[candid talon]

Correct. Which is why not in every session you reach those numbers. Buffs are RNG and some are DRASTICALLY better than others. If you're hitting 3M+ per shot with AR consistently, you were blessed.

[candid talon]

It was meta MMR before determined. Now its usable subpar.

[astral kraken]

Yea it's good. It just doesn't beat an MMR with the Determined talent (in terms how fast you can wipe enemies). Back when I was learning how to do aviary (legendary zoo) by myself I used Mantis. Always having a decoy up and seeing heads through foliage was very helpful.

[warm knot]

Ik ik, there are better builds. But how can I improve this?

[surreal moth]

So if I get this right for a build with a MMR that has perfect determined I wanned crit damage and headhshot damage on my armor pieces?

[hexed steppe]

Use glass or oblit.
Glass because it's a stronger amp and will also amp elmo.
Oblit being the single source of twd means it will act like an amp, boosts both weapons, yaddayadda..

[hexed steppe]

Dont use perfect determined. Trash weapons and also it works as intended. Regular determined is the only one that chains body shots.

M700/white death/ sr1/model 700 the goto for determined

Either way you spec headshot damage/handling

[candid talon]

Perfect Determined is A TRASH talent. Basically it trades off the chain for a guaranteed crit but then it resets. Keeping the chain going is the only point of Determined.

This is more or less your options when it comes to Determined

Read the last line of the talent and you'll realize why it's absolute garbage.

That line is not present in regular Determined.

[surreal moth]

So with normal determined kiling something with the talent retriggers it and so goes on forever if you kill with every hit?

[candid talon]

Exactly.

[surreal moth]

That sounds...... perfectly balaned

[candid talon]

You can chain 20M shots back to back to back to back to back from body shots.

[candid talon]

It's balanced by armored enemies although turmoil provides a work around with "a cost"

[surreal moth]

Well Il go play countdown and farm a sniper

[candid talon]

Neg.

[surreal moth]

So I can then farm Bighorn

[candid talon]

Enemies too spongy for that. Too many dogs will kill your streak, etc. etc.

That build is HEAVILY situational. Heroic Countdown ain't it chief.

[surreal moth]

I am playing my normal AR build for countdown but I use the targeted loot there for MMRs

[candid talon]

If any set is completely broken is anti-disrupt skill drone and turret

You can literally fall asleep and clear just about any content with that, but you need to farm perfect mods because you do NOT want your stuff to get comandeered.

[surreal moth]

Also normal determined just makes the shot a garanteed headshot, but doesnt add more dmg?

[bright raptor]

pretty much

[candid talon]

Doesn't need to. Perfect headhunter does it for you.

That build is supported literally by two things. Perfect Headhunter stacks. Determined keeping the stacks going.

Which is why Perfect Determined is garbage. It doesn't do the important part xD

[hexed steppe]

30mil with no ninja

[candid talon]

Yeah, if you dont' use Turmoil

[hexed steppe]

I dont

[candid talon]

But I'd rather use Turmoil to bypass armoreds

[hexed steppe]

Unnecessary. Clear times with determined hotshot already insane

[candid talon]

Yeah but I don't like resetting my chain

[hexed steppe]

Still gonna need to. Helmet breaks cause stagger so it's a free pickup on chain

I should add turmoil to my striker setup tho

[candid talon]

No, I don't. helmet enemies get killed by splash damage. I never target them.

[hexed steppe]

Idk bout that. You sometimes dont have choice or it's the only npc in front of tou

[candid talon]

Moreover, the talent is glitched. With Determined they take full damage.

[hexed steppe]

Should 3pc and add vigilance to the mix then

You'll hit harder

[candid talon]

is that so? Will try.

[hexed steppe]

Twd is pretty huge. You'll probably add 5mil or so to top end.

[onyx sage]

speaking of twd, i saw a post on a knockoff div2 subreddit yesterday and it basically said backbone is basically the same as petrov with normal unstoppable force because 10% + 25% = 35% 💀

[candid talon]

Like I said, I'm not fully sold on TWD. I love it, but I'm not sure I love it more than SR-1. Between a bit of RPM and a lot of Reload Speed, I feel "meh"

TWD is great when you're fighting against chunkier targets, but for general purpose I tend to use SR-1 more

[onyx sage]

twd is total weapon damage, you're thinking of the white death

[slate wedge]

oooooof

[worn imp]

Ayo gimme a Arty turret/bomber drone build

[candid talon]

Haven't used that in a while but I think I ran one with 4pce eclipse and vile IIRC

And ofc China as solo piece.

[slate wedge]

why eclipse?

[wispy sluice]

hi guys, im shd lvl 70 and currently looking for a pvp build. What do you think of 3 dillema, coyote, contactors and foxs with 3 blue and 3 red. Do you prefer something else?

[candid talon]

Bleed spread from Artillery + Pestilence IIRC, it's been a while

[slate wedge]

why dilemma?

[wispy sluice]

for crit hit chance and crit hit dmg, you prefer something else? i first thought of ceska, grupo and as third maybe wpn dmg

[slate wedge]

first of all, what kind of build do you want to create?

[wispy sluice]

i want something to have fun in dz, i want to shred ppl but not be glass cannon. I wanted to pair it with technician for scann bonus with the wpn attatchment. I want to use an AR and thats it

my problem currently is that i think im in a disatvantage bc of know-how lvl und shd lvl

[slate wedge]

i wouldn’t recommend using flatline anymore since it got nerfed but i’d say a great build is an umbra capacitor build with ninjabike backpack, picaro holster, 3 pieces umbra including the chest and one pice walker&harris

[wispy sluice]

can you maybe give me the details? like every piece exactly with witch stats?

[slate wedge]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwdgtAnGzGAM0DM8ULajaBcNLVgsMgKwBsmF62isUuhypxlL1ydBrX2ALAEx56KGJyrcc5Dt2lwsfRFB6QAHNGLNgxcJvKbVY2Xx6cI5cgkTkQ4AzmXklEZAcpZEOZH1jywfG5jdGZhAEUn1MIA

this is probably the best one out there

[covert meadow]

On a base striker my chc is 51% my chd is 153% is this right on or do I need to add 1 chc mod to get over to the 60? Adding 1 brings me to 57% chc?

[slate wedge]

depends, if you or a teammate uses coyotes mask then it is fine

without it you need one more mod

[hexed steppe]

Bleed is a really bad use for eclipse. For mortar, you are 100% better off with highend. Eclipse damage should be fire where you can tick 700k-800k plus vile.
Eclipse also doesnt do anything for pestilence as it isnt a status.

[covert meadow]

@slate wedge it's just me solo play and im using coyotes with cessation obliterate

Wasup local!

[hexed steppe]

What's good agent

[covert meadow]

Doing good just trying to understand this strikers lol

[slate wedge]

then 51% is fine

however if you feel like you are always only getting the short range buff then you can add a chc mod

[hexed steppe]

That sounds about where I'm sitting on mine

[slate wedge]

rate the build i posted

[covert meadow]

Ok cool @slate wedge appreciate it 👍

[candid talon]

I know. That's why I scrapped it. Not a huge fan of bleed in general.

[hexed steppe]

Looks good.
Few changes, but take with a grain of salt, I'm highly biased to the way I run it.
I would slot in a hive and btsu if possible.
Force multiplier gives 10% more total skill damage and can be procced right before mortar hits, which negates the 3sec uptime.
Use insync shotgun as secondary weapon or at a minimum, make sure test subject has dta on it.

Contractors gloves get a mention also as a solid choice

[slate wedge]

i thought he wanted arty and bombardier so thats why i didnt use a hive

you are probably right on the force multiplier, should swap that

i also forgot about dta applying to explosive dmg lol

[slate wedge]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwdgtAzGAMYEzxk2LlpQLgKxbQRjALwlVMTMy2HMSLgE50mKNgA2SJAi551j4LCgIeo9BggdhhXmNIY4ERtXoAOQjg3g8WDjvUtJYam2p4RkDiEYs4wKDrADC6tgVUHxwDNqJyMeOAQBBBQEJ6kQA

this would be how i’d build it

[wispy sluice]

thank you, i now saw one onlie with the catharsis mask, what you think of that?

[slate wedge]

nope

umbra isn’t meant for long fights which is exactly what catharsis shines at

with umbra you wanna burst the enemy down afap

[hexed steppe]

Secondary definitely preference. I lot of people use cluster seekers too.

[wispy sluice]

okey, thank you. i will try to get your build you sent me!! im really hyped for pvp

[slate wedge]

i either use an explosive sticky or cluster mines

[craggy forge]

Is there a way to get chainkiller blueprint so you can craft one?

[slate wedge]

good luck Agent

don’t be downed when you die alot, PvP is insanely sweaty so you might have to learn alot

also once you get to shd level 1000 it is much much better

[autumn yacht]

i recommend running all blue with this and defender drone or pulse and emp sticky

all blue does basically the same damage it’s crazy

[slate wedge]

is there something you’d change about the pvp umbra build i sent to the other guy?

[slate wedge]

kinda true, but still umbra gets worse the longer the fight takes

[wispy sluice]

i dont have walker harris knee pads, can i rock fox's prayer?? is that stronger?

[slate wedge]

not really, you can use any walker harris piece tho, doesnt have to be the kneepads

[autumn yacht]

try out all blue i made the switch recently and it’s way better

[autumn yacht]

targeted loot countdown you can use walker mask or gloves or knee shouldn’t take long

[slate wedge]

add gloves aswell

[slate wedge]

gonna have to be 5 blue for now since for my umbra build i don’t have a blue core vigil yet

[turbid light]

Haz pro

[slate wedge]

if i build a capacitor one i’ll do that tho

[turbid light]

https://youtu.be/z8F1GOq693w?si=t2c2rWYjB0ha8Hos

[slate wedge]

not really needed but still nice👍

[astral kraken]

not clicking that

just ate

[wispy sluice]

its like that at the moment until i get walker knee

[austere tree]

yeah don't think i'm touching this thing ever again

[slate wedge]

don’t you have walker mask or gloves?

[onyx sage]

that's not the worst time i've seen for random matchmaking

[astral kraken]

40 min is fine tbh

[slate wedge]

but looks good rn, i actually would go more blue cores, thats my bad for not telling you first

[onyx sage]

you could've gone through a lot worse

[wispy sluice]

unfortunately not, but wont be a thing, it will take 1 round in countdown

[turbid light]

Haz pro

https://youtu.be/z8F1GOq693w?si=t2c2rWYjB0ha8Hos

[onyx sage]

bro you already posted that

[astral kraken]

S P A M

[wispy sluice]

i want to have it as knee pads, bc everything else is optomized now

[turbid light]

Link is the build

[slate wedge]

yeah, if you go for countdown anyways, try to get a blue core with double crit

[autumn yacht]

mods he’s advertising his video

[slate wedge]

not even his i think

[slate wedge]

stop posting it

[wispy sluice]

shouldnt it be all red?? and i dont have this secendory and pistol you got in the build. Is this needed?

[autumn yacht]

no they aren’t needed just nice to have.

[wispy sluice]

perfect, going now for walker in countdown! thanks man!!!

[slate wedge]

blue core might actually be better so try to go for it, switching to a red core afterwards is much easier than switching to a blue one

[wispy sluice]

i was just thinking of the dmg loss i get, 4 blue and 2 red. But i know what you mean, maybe i get 2 walker pads know hahaha

[slate wedge]

nice, good luck

[wispy sluice]

thanks!!!!

[hexed steppe]

I got nothing when it comes to pvp builds. You would probably know way more than me on that

[slate wedge]

ah okay, do you know if the skill tier from barazos counts towards capacitor damage?

and the one from technician too

[hexed steppe]

It should. Easy to test to be sure in the range

[surreal moth]

This any good? It has determined

[feral anvil]

change rate of fire to damage to targets out of cover and ur solid

[slate wedge]

yeah, really good

[surreal moth]

Already had to tinker the talent on it

[feral anvil]

ah either way its still solid

[fair ether]

What builds do you guys like to run for hollywood?

[hexed steppe]

White death drops is easy farm. I get a ton in capital stronghold

[candid talon]

Did most of it with a Hard Wired Seeker mine reset in Wall Street (for 50 rikers as well). Then equipped a shield in a tank build (Foundry Bulwak but any works) and smacked a guy 50 times (it doesn't remove protection so this is easy). Now I'm 70/100 hitting enemies with specialization weapon which I recommend the minigun for but doing this as I do other stuff.

[unkempt knot]

Should I start adding more Blue cores?
Got the Catalyst yesteday. added 2 atm, thinking of adding more.

[onyx sage]

if you don't need them, don't add them

[solar sable]

blue cores in PvE are not that great, even with a 3/3 setup you'll still be squishy imho

[solar sable]

sir

[unkempt knot]

been seeing ppl run around with 6B & still deal good dmg so I've been thinking.
"ok, it don't seem like a bad idea to run a 'frontline tank' for my group."
so I've been brainstorming.
No I don't feel like running Heartbreaker.

[ionic mantle]

What that for blue gear ?

Is it on colour blind modus ?

[solar sable]

Modifiers can do a lot of things even with 6 blues. When they're not active you struggle to kill one single elite enemy, you get easily overwhelmed and that will get you killed

It's better if you can kill things faster without getting overwhelmed too much

[unkempt knot]

I understand the "Don't play tank" motif.
but playing only firearms does get boring after some time.

[solar sable]

It's not about "don't" I would say, but a do as you please

[rigid sedge]

Bring lots of ammo if you run a tank build.

[onyx sage]

sir, let me enjoy determined

[solar sable]

I bet you can't even hit body shots

[onyx sage]

don't out me like that, my street cred would vanish

[astral kraken]

tank is firearms too. except the arms are skinny and weak. red build arms are big and strong.

[subtle bluff]

I gave him a Harvest with DTTooC and determine last night. Just watch him go.

[rigid sedge]

Determined is good for bringing down warhounds and quadcopters though.

[solar sable]

it's good for almost anything

[heavy cedar]

Where can i farm to get the police M4

[hazy steeple]

@heavy cedar Targeted Loot: Assault Rifles, and go to Challenging Countdown.
you'll get one before too long.

[harsh lynx]

how do you get to expertise lvl 28

[near elm]

Is the Pestilence a good weapon?

[solar sable]

yes

[near elm]

How good?

[light bear]

whenever you said i should get a ceska vest with both crits, does that mean chd and chc orrr?

[solar sable]

Yes

[solar sable]

very, idk how else to describe it

[light bear]

also should i keep my vest at weapon damage and convert it to 170k armor?

[solar sable]

Keep it as Red core

[near elm]

I'm new I'm not sure how to ask

[solar sable]

Keep it, once you get a striker's build you can use Pesti and check it out

[light bear]

alright bet, i got st elmo’s and 2 obliterate vests yesterday so i got pretty lucky

only took 15 exotic crates

[near elm]

I have one

[solar sable]

If you wanna keep Memento swap Striker's chest for Ceska w/Obliterate and Striker holster.

Use Gunner instead of Sharpshooter and Reviver Hive instead of Turret/Drone. You can also run Crusader Shield.

[light bear]

crusader shield is so clutch for farming countdown

[near elm]

The gadgets were just for journey completion, I usually use rev hive and c shield anyway

[near elm]

And I'm halfway through unlocking the technician specialisation, one thing at a time for now

[light bear]

@solar sable is critical hit damage on my st elmo’s a decent attribute or are they all the same

[solar sable]

always DTOC (DMG to Target out of Cover)

[light bear]

so basically keep trying to get more st elmo’s 😭

[solar sable]

You can Reconfigure your exotics btw

[light bear]

how would i do that

[solar sable]

go to your nearest Crafting Station and go to the Exotic list

you might have to buy their respective blueprints from Inaya (inside the White House)

Although, reconfiguration costs exotic components which are obtained via deconstructing exotics

[light bear]

i have plenty of exotics that i can deconstruct so that shouldn’t be a problem

[solar sable]

Which ones do you have? make a list plz

[light bear]

just guns or armor included

[solar sable]

i wanna know which ones so I can tell you which to keep

[light bear]

ik ik im saying do you want to know just the exotic guns i have or also the exotic armor pieces aswell

[solar sable]

both

[light bear]

st elmos
memento bags
chameleons
bullet king
iron lung
doctor home
2 exodus gloves
shocker punch kneepads

which is weird because i literally know o used to have 2 chameleons

actually i could’ve sworn i had a ton more exotics

[solar sable]

Trash:
doctor home
Shocker Punch

Stash 1 pair of exodus if you wanna have more characters in the future

IMHO

[astral kraken]

poor shocker punch

[solar sable]

no one likes shocker punch hehe

[light bear]

i could’ve sworn i got like bloody knuckle exotic gloves earlier but i have no idea where they went

[solar sable]

if you ever get those, they can be useful for Incursion

[astral kraken]

are you favoriting all of your exotics?

[solar sable]

most importantly, all the goodies?

[light bear]

i normally stash them if i don’t use them

[astral kraken]

no i mean mark them as favorite

when you mark something as favorite the game won't let you deconstruct it

[light bear]

yeah ngl i’ve never done that before which means i was probably a moron and like deconstructed some of my exotics

[solar sable]

rip

[astral kraken]

favorite every single piece of gear you want to keep

even high-ends

[odd ginkgo]

Don't suffer like me and so many others!

[light bear]

stupid mistake on my part

[astral kraken]

nah the game doesnt make it obvious

[light bear]

wait do all the stashes connect, i know it’s a dumb question but

[solar sable]

I once deconstructed a god roll oreo... sadge

[solar sable]

yup, account shared

[stray atlas]

would the closer chest piece work with this build, or possibly if i swap it out for ongoing directive

[light bear]

i was just asking because in inaya it shows exotics that ik ive had but dont have in my stash or inventory

like my coyote mask, it shows i can reconfigure it but i don’t have it in my stash or inventory

[odd ginkgo]

Go with OD chest and Ceska back with Wicked.

And Coyote's Mask if you have it.

For a full red anyways.

[gray estuary]

just recently started. is there a way to unlock the momentum modifier

[odd ginkgo]

Check your 'Journey' tab, under the Crossroads screen, to see how to unlock Modifiers.

[south heath]

whats the strongest skill build

[subtle bluff]

In what sense?

[south heath]

for clearing endgame things

rn im using turrent drone with wave form and refactor set to heal my team

[subtle bluff]

I’ll be more specific, Damage, Support, mix support etc.

Skill builds are niche in the end game content.

[south heath]

something where im able to help my team and output damage

i play with a stack and they run super aggro shield builds

[subtle bluff]

This is leggo end game?

Best support build is FI healer hands down next to EP status close behind HW and the new MA but depends on your stack.

[south heath]

fl healer?

[subtle bluff]

Future Initiative

[south heath]

run me thru the build i might use it

[subtle bluff]

If your stack are using “tanks” they don’t need it they can go faster if everything is done right.
We ran thru leggo, Capital, Tidal and Zoo with a new FTC within like 90min in total. We had a healer maybe for a 3 or 4 section total.

[south heath]

can u explain the ep status build ?

and whats the best way to get named items

[subtle bluff]

I don’t have the build on hand atm. The gearset is called eclipse protocol. You can find this and many others in the Pinned Messages.

[south heath]

ok ok final question whats the fastest method to lvl up the watch

[subtle bluff]

That what I don’t have good answer for ask in either #ask-td2-community and/or #td2-general-chat
Heroic CP with all directives/during events normally are the quickest.

[strong cave]

All directives enabled, clear Heroic Level 4 Checkpoints with a hotshot determined build. Target Outcasts, as they do not have helmets. Don't call for reinforcements until all enemies are cleared, as spawns are guaranteed predictable

Calling for reinforcements early screws up the spawns

[subtle bluff]

I never farmed SHD. Just played, farmed and learned.

[strong cave]

I was a shd farmer. It SHaved years off my life. Kill me pls

[south heath]

thank u thank u

[subtle bluff]

I mean when I was 1.2k SHD I was at 12 exp… Not cheesing anything.

[south heath]

for the ep build would i run something like pestilence

[strong cave]

I sat at 18 exp up until they announced mule nerfs. I was due to laziness

[subtle bluff]

No. Pesti tick is not a status effect.

[strong cave]

No. Scorpio or iron lung

[subtle bluff]

Pesti build is really good but it’s pita to farm.

[south heath]

whats iron lung⁉️

[strong cave]

Exotic LMG

[south heath]

im only lvl 90 so mb for asking so much

[strong cave]

Half the magazine if continuously firing will light enemies on fire

Bluescreen would be okay as well. Another exotic LMG

[south heath]

ok ok what exotic armor would i run with the ep build

[strong cave]

I'm shd 14.6k . People gotta learn somehow. Happy to help

[subtle bluff]

Again go the Pinned Messages there’s a whole GDoc to learn.

[strong cave]

If you wanna tick for more damage, run Vile. If you want a support version, run BTSU with stinger hive for Overcharge for the team. You could go either or

[subtle bluff]

In general exotic gear/weapons aren’t always the best nor is needed for every build.

[strong cave]

Pinned messages on this channel will help you better by visually seeing it

[subtle bluff]

Stop… Let him go learn from the gearsheet. At this point we’re overloading him

[south heath]

nah i was a comp d2 player

i got 4k hrs on ts i understand it

[strong cave]

Destiny 2 way more confusing than Division 2

Division 2 basically dumbed down destiny 2 but more tacticool

[south heath]

yea and i super min maxxed d2 so division isnt all that crazy to understand

[strong cave]

Oh, also, vile is an exotic mask, BTSU are exotic gloves. Chow is right tho, check the pinned spreadsheet for those builds. I think it'll be under "skills" or "Crowd Control"

Once you get an idea of how to piece things together it's easy sailing tbh

[subtle bluff]

Just to check out the gear, weapons, exotics and all the gearset.

[south heath]

is there a way to target farm certain exotics

[subtle bluff]

Then go look at the builds.

[south heath]

i heard countdown was the best

[strong cave]

Yes, matchmake countdown on Challenging. In the map, you can select your target loot

Stick with the group, follow along. If you need say, exotic mask coyote, target farm masks. If you need say, Grupo brand backpack, target farm Grupo brand. Super easy

[south heath]

appreciate u ill lyk if i need more help thank u

[strong cave]

Happy to help 🫡 hope that eclipse build you're making ends up being fun. It channels my inner arsonist a ton lol

[hexed steppe]

i would personally glass or oblit. closer is probably pretty close to what you have since its a bad brand. youre not able to really proc spotter constantly anyways

[hexed steppe]

mortar

especially with the current ge

[subtle bluff]

I was gonna @ you for this but I didnt’ want to overload him.

[hexed steppe]

all good

[odd ginkgo]

I can't decide if I should use my Eclipse Protocol Vile Burn build or trying a Tip of the Spear flame or grenade build. Is the specialization weapon affected by the Weapon Damage stat?

Edit: for the Hollywood ge.

[cerulean smelt]

i even told someone before the GE opened up that you would tell them it was mandatory to run Mortar build

[sudden cloak]

The amount of people I see who don't use mortar build is astonishing

[subtle bluff]

TBH you don’t need much you can just run around with Demo and Demo everything

[odd ginkgo]

Mortar is fun outdoors, but kind of a pain in low ceiling interiors.

[odd ginkgo]

Maybe I'll go for both. Flamethrower on my EP build and Demo on a TotS build.

[subtle bluff]

Just you the nada launcher. On any build.

[sudden cloak]

If I'm running tidal basin then there should be a mortar lol

[odd ginkgo]

I agree with that.

[subtle bluff]

Well almost any build. It’s too easy.

[odd ginkgo]

Tots procs more spec ammo, is all I'm thinking.

[sudden cloak]

Some of the Xbox people I play with make tidal a pain

[odd ginkgo]

It's not the console, it's the player.

[sudden cloak]

Oh I know, Xbox just happens to be where I play the most

[odd ginkgo]

The phrase would read better this way then:

Some of the people I play with, on Xbox, make Tidal a pain.

[sudden cloak]

Yeahhhhh I'm not the best at wording things lol 😅

[odd ginkgo]

The other phrase made it sound like you hated Xbox players.

[subtle bluff]

That’s in general… Some of the stuff I’ve seen on Leggo tidal would make players sick.

[sudden cloak]

Wdym? Lmao

[odd ginkgo]

I need to complete my Leggo White Tusk apparel. I've got the mask and the pants.

[subtle bluff]

I think the funniest one is “This Decoy build is killer, once it’s setup” Yeah he did nothing the whole time…

[odd ginkgo]

My car is great, when it runs...

[sudden cloak]

That's actually crazy to hear

[subtle bluff]

Then there’s the TP full Repair Skill builds…..

[odd ginkgo]

TP? Toilet Paper?

[subtle bluff]

True Patriot

[odd ginkgo]

Oof

[versed summit]

Basically lol

[subtle bluff]

I have the most fun Dragging tanks along. (I’m kind of a troll with them) I let them tank the chunga while I kill everything else or just pull agro off of him the whole time during or after.

[sudden cloak]

I've been seeing so many blue core striker builds as of late, just... Not setup up correctly

[hexed steppe]

just do demo highend , the nade launcher will generate its own ammo during hollywood, no tots needed

[sudden cloak]

Trying to craft a sokolov chest with double crit and intimidate but the game hates me

[versed summit]

Such is life, good luck with the chest though

[flint wave]

countdown moment

[glad heart]

A combination that is too popular. It will be very difficult to craft, as well as very difficult to farm. Just like most of the popular combinations

[hexed steppe]

when life throws low ceilings at ya, use them lemons for ricochet shots

[flint wave]

👢 💥

where cleaner emote ♻️

[sudden cloak]

I honestly just want the unicorn to have it, don't necessarily need it

[versed summit]

I randomly got mine tbh, the chase is the best part anyways

[sudden cloak]

The one thing that I'm ticked off I don't have the fricken setup BP for FI healer build

[versed summit]

Yeah same. I’ve crafted a ton but I can’t get a perfect one

[sudden cloak]

I've spent entire days in countdown trying to get it to drop from the hunters

[hexed steppe]

anyone seeing disrupts transferred from an eclipse kill not popping hollywood shield field?

[hexed steppe]

i guess this is the perfect time to try out hide and Seek... see how well perfect explosive delivery works at proccing hollywood. artificer refreshes 15 sec uptime on decoy every 10 sec so can stay active until i decon...
its just a meme, dont crucify me
-# troll mode active

[sudden cloak]

😂

[cerulean smelt]

😹 i saw someone's seeker just continuously explode from that talent, think it could've been a healing seeker or maybe the single explosive that didn't have a target to go after so it just did the explosive delivery mechanic
honestly i was tempted to run something like that with it

[hexed steppe]

when it first came out i was matchmaking and dude was running it on mender/turret. it ticked me off because i was running headhunter mmr setup and the jerk kept putting his turret on my cover and occasionally sending the mender seeker on me. f's non stop that match

if i can get these close to a spawn door they are doing like 2mil damage and definitely popping shields. plus the npcs ignore everything when that 219% threat hits the pavement

explosive delivery scales with grenade, so grupo/china are helping out a bit

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i hate the screen shaking the talent does, i'd be tempted to do a explosive delivery + tamper proof build. can't imagine the damage that'd do to a spawn door honestly XD

[dreamy valve]

I shall call this, the Mosquito Cannon

[verbal gust]

Dude I run that in conflict and the stagger is so funny bruh omg

[mossy dirge]

What weapons can i use for funtry bulwark, catharsis, armor, armor regen , belstone build. ? 🙂

I could use lady death , secondary not surere??

[subtle bluff]

You don't use FB.
Use Strikers, Heartbreaker or hunters fury

[mossy dirge]

Ok. I have all 🙂

But lady death, orobours, dark winter ok?

[subtle bluff]

Ouro is good, DW is only good if you have killer up. Lady Death if you can keep running and killing sure.

[mossy dirge]

Killer up?

[sudden cloak]

A build I've been using on legendary tidal recently instead of my blue core striker build

[subtle bluff]

The weapon talent..

[mossy dirge]

Eh not perfect killer...

Grit damage..

[solar sable]

grit?

[mossy dirge]

Crit...hehe

[astral kraken]

hides from purple minitank

"guys can you kill that pls"

[sudden cloak]

I do ask them to catch any purples I miss but I run EMP sticky for the minitanks, the DMG they do is unreal

[astral kraken]

black tusk make zeppelins when they could deploy a fleet of 100,000 purple minitanks

[sudden cloak]

Istg bro

😂

[lethal mulch]

Hi! What's better build for regulus+claws out now? With Gift or with 3pc new brand IA? (don't remember full name)
For PVE

[subtle bluff]

Normally it's we just run HH HF D&H

[versed summit]

For headhunter 3 pc IA works better for HE now.

[golden isle]

is crit damage decent on the harvest?

[hoary sail]

nop u need dttoc

[golden isle]

Thanks man

[digital star]

If you use bullwark shield and liberty pistol you are basically invincible if you use the build correctly. Read the liberty talent

[digital star]

That’s when you use a measured assembly build, game over 🤣

[golden isle]

Got any pics for that build? I kinda want to try the out

[subtle bluff]

Yeah no. Liberty Dmg is so ass now. You will not do much for dmg vs just using a real build. You'll be shooting forever.
Yes you can clear stuff solo but the time taken...

[mossy dirge]

😁

[tawdry flare]

When did you become a mod

Also @bronze hound did you finally become a dev as well

[astral kraken]

everyone is growing up 😭

[candid talon]

Guys, if I have to recommend a friend, who isn't GOOD WITH ANYTHING, a build, that will allow him to do pretty much "any content" (No masters, no raids, no solo incursion) just, heroic stuff, some legendary maybe with patience, what build should I recommend? I'm thinking blue strikers with hazpro + armor and PFE, maybe with bluescreen or I dunno, something with Scorpio. I'm desperate, he dies with anything

[patent fossil]

Refactor turret drone is pretty safe if slow

Just not in countdown or any other content that includes hunters

[rotund cipher]

What am I looking for in the striker gear set

[candid talon]

I tried turret drone builds he has ZERO patience lol

[patent fossil]

Sounds like he's just playing the wrong game tbh

[candid talon]

Well, I'm trying to get him not to play FIFA exclusively but he's the type of person when he dies (or loses a match) blames the game

[loud pine]

make him wear the sacrifice

[candid talon]

So he dies faster?

[loud pine]

its a very beginner friendly gear item

[patent fossil]

It's certainly a valuable training tool

[loud pine]

but on a serious note, if he has no patience for anything hes a lost cause in a game like this where you need to farm and wont have everything right away

[patent fossil]

Even with a load of blue and pfe you'll get shredded (by reds and purples) if you just run in blindly, unless you stick to very low difficulties

[astral kraken]

yea i feel like turret drone is the only option

maybe hard wired seeker thrower

but that's suuuuuper boring

still more useful than a dead tm8 tho

whenever im dps and someone is throwing infinite seekers i love it

weakens enemies and keeps them diving around

and your friend can overcharge occasionally resetting hives

im gonna say this. non stop seeker spam, can heal, can overcharge, can eat 1 explosion every 60 sec

[candid talon]

That's the build I use for Hollywood. I can already see him overextend and get popped or not knowing when to retreat 😂

But yeah, I dunno, gonna try and help him farm this:

[rancid ocean]

lol I thought it was a pvp build

[astral kraken]

chest brand sucks and not enough regen. your friend will need regen. farm this instead:

[candid talon]

Hardwire reset? No...

[astral kraken]

sweet dreams/lullaby shotgun is mandatory so he can wack purples that get too close

[raw marlin]

Play dark zone and pvp

Bye

[urban latch]

Ok bye

[astral kraken]

#td2-build-advice message

😂

[urban latch]

rofl

[onyx sage]

bye

[hexed steppe]

[slate wedge]

hi raucey, how are you?

[urban latch]

doing good

[lethal mulch]

Like this, right? All stats hsd and handling

[versed summit]

That’s fine, I’d trade Fox’s for chain killer, but it just depends if you want/need the extra first shot damage or second shot damage. I value the second shot more

[lethal mulch]

ty!

[bronze hound]

Wuh

[strong cave]

never thought id see a claw's out in use on a build besides for Bonk 😭

[surreal moth]

How can I make this build more efficient for Heoric and what do I need to change for legendary?

[fair dragon]

It's already at its peak

The difference between Heroic and Legendary is that Legendary requires knowledge about being in combat

How you prioritise enemies, know enemy spawns, how you position yourself etc.

[surreal moth]

So all thats left is like.. upgrade the attributes?

[tranquil wave]

priority rolls for this build? damage > haste?

[astral kraken]

yep

[tranquil wave]

as much as i hate playing those skill builds, must do it for the event, eh

[tranquil wave]

modifiers?

[onyx sage]

don't need modifiers for that build

[astral kraken]

dunno, haven't used it this season. probably hands-on? but if you're doing the event you can't do modifiers too.

to be clear this one only advice for that case lol. it's not a very efficient build to run.

it's not that great for the event either

@hexed steppe has great explosive builds for that

[hexed steppe]

I use about the same but with ceska chest, i think you squeeze a little more our of the crit that way.
The only change I make for legs is swapping in striker chest and ceska somewhere else

[hexed steppe]

I never miss a chance to spread mortar propaganda

This is what I use
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19mY6aOHO0R6BIq7nDFNTk2bducYQkpwsQJNDQhnekAI/edit?usp=drive_link

But it's pretty hard to mess up an explosives build during this event

[dreamy valve]

Switch to gunner specialization, you won't be in close combat with that build

https://youtu.be/gXbrShTU2Xo?si=AkSc8QpUpU_1z7TH

study what other players do for those runs

[astral kraken]

isn't that his solo hardcore build?

[dreamy valve]

yeah

[astral kraken]

it is yea. that wouldn't scale to 4 players very well.

esp with the chest

the build they posted was fine

[onyx sage]

if you have a mostly red build like posted above it all comes down to strategy/routing

[surreal moth]

Should I put like 1 or 2 blue cores in it?

[dreamy valve]

wont matter in legendary unless you build for it

[onyx sage]

yeah they don't matter at all lol

[astral kraken]

makes shield stronger

[dreamy valve]

I posted the wrong vid and build whoops

[onyx sage]

you either build full blue or full red, the full red can have some items that help with survivability

[astral kraken]

when i was learning i just added blues until it felt right

i ran with 2 blues for a bit for my shield, then 1, then 0, then dropped the shield entirely

[onyx sage]

full blue you have to play aggressive to make use of the additional survivability you have and capitalize on close range damage

[astral kraken]

if i want a chill and boring run i'll run this:

[dreamy valve]

get your weapon to at least lvl 15 expertise after you finish optimizing everything, its an extra red core, but thats the last thing to do

[surreal moth]

I just maxxed the attributes on my Elmo and now I am out of steel

[dreamy valve]

This week's hollywood event has some nice resource rewards to grind

[surreal moth]

Where do I access that

[dreamy valve]

you can just turn it on in the event menu, and use the jammer skill with your build

[surreal moth]

For solo or multiplayer?

[astral kraken]

both

if it's a really good team just switch back to full red

but for matchmaking you wont have trouble getting trophies

[slate wedge]

only to 12

[dreamy valve]

3 exotic components wouldn’t kill you, you can get them a lot easier than before the update

But yeah it should be the last priority

[strong cave]

swap from grupo to ceska

[tiny stone]

what's the best roll on ACS12 for building striker stacks if i don't have a rock and roll?

[astral kraken]

i would just do pummel or something

gives it some utility as a main gun when you need it

brazen is another good one

or better yet... just run a lefty

easy to get that gun and you can use sledgehammer on stuff

and if you dont have a lefty just roll sledgehammer on a normal acs in the meantime

[strong cave]

Lefty

brazen for DPS, preservation for survivability. but best in slot is lefty

[hoary sail]

i will spread it with u

[candid talon]

Is there a way to improve damage without sacrificing survivability or vice-versa?

[hoary sail]

red core on chest nd backpack. Grupo chest nd ceska backpack

[candid talon]

Won't I become WAY more squishy?

[strong cave]

you already dont do enough damage with the build itself anyways

[dire fjord]

do caches levels go up as you do or do they stay the same as what you were when given it?

[strong cave]

youll be standing there unloading hella mags before you even get 1 kill anyways

[strong cave]

whats your shd level?

[dire fjord]

35

[candid talon]

I kill everything below elites with 1 clip, elites don't stress me with 78% PFE

[slate wedge]

rather turn this into a full support build, go with an opportunistic/protector backpack and tardigrade/pointman chest

[strong cave]

yeah may as well just say you can only kill purples/reds at that point. PFE is too niche and doesnt offer any benefits. better off going with a red build and just not getting shot

[slate wedge]

and if you wanna go pfe in something like CD, go with big striker and two improvised pieces

[candid talon]

I have a Bulwark set for that. This is for single player legendary.

[dreamy valve]

For this game, it’s always going to be a trade for damage the more survivability you want to add to your build. To quote FMA: “Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is Alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange."

[candid talon]

Yeah. figured as much.

[astral kraken]

😂😂😂 im ded

[slate wedge]

only real way to get more damage is by using a ceska backpack

[dire fjord]

its telling me i cant open a cashe becasue i have an exotic weapon but i dont have any?

[boreal lichen]

What signature weapon is the best to go with a striker build?

[solar sable]

Gunner

[boreal lichen]

Sweet, thank you

[hazy steeple]

It's a bug, it's being investigated.

[dire fjord]

okay thanks

[cerulean smelt]

wasn't there some work around for it at some point?
feel there was a thing about having other exotics on your character or in your stash prevented this so having those on an alt to open that cache?

[quartz pasture]

I need help with a build for provocator but i want to stay a tank and be a aggro person

[subtle bluff]

Tanks aren’t needed in Div2.

[cerulean smelt]

good luck on that endeavor

[astral kraken]

purple minitank: clears throat

[hazy hull]

Is striker plus Memento any good?

Ok my lesbian AI then I'll try it

[sudden cloak]

I like running it in legendaries

[surreal moth]

Does someone have a link ready or screenshot for an efficient healer build? For Irn Horse for example

[hazy hull]

I'm guessing all reds critical hit mixed with bullet King

[stark dawn]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11__a0xEKRKX22zNtLFwQM6P44oIq_h6g07a47Fd0X2M/ (from the community Google Doc by @urban latch)

[subtle bluff]

The doc or this

[surreal moth]

Thanks yall

Whats better targeted loot to farm Setup, Backpacks in general or Uzina?

[onyx sage]

uzina

[hazy steeple]

@surreal moth If it's a named item: go for the brand, always.
Only go for "type" for Exotics.

[surreal moth]

Okay thank you

[hazy steeple]

Think of it like this: you go for the brand, you have a 1/6 chance.
Type? Every single backpack ingame is in the pool.

[surreal moth]

Can't the backpack drop as unnamneed version too?

But I get the point

[hazy steeple]

Absolutely, but it's still a MUCH smaller chance.

[cerulean smelt]

nods you got gearsets, brandsets, named items, exotics to contend with if you go by Type only things not in those are the Dark Zone Exclusives

[surreal moth]

For a striker build what is the Chritchance I wnat to have?

[hazy steeple]

@surreal moth If you're using Coyotes Mask: 50-55.
With no Coyotes? As close to 60% without going over the limit, as it's wasted if you go past it.

That is assuming you're getting the mid-range Coyotes buff, which is ideal for AR's (assault rifles)

[surreal moth]

Yes I am running Coyote

[hazy steeple]

There's a "meta" guide in the 📌 pinned spreadsheet of this channel, it's worth a read. Strikers has a lot of nuance.

so that'd be 📌 > spreadsheet 2 > builds > strikers builds.

[surreal moth]

Yes I am currently working my way through the sheet but its a lot to take in and sometimes a bit difficult to navigate

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say it's just a matter of too much info coming at you at once, but once you get used to it you'll realize it's a lot simpler

[surreal moth]

Probably

[hazy steeple]

We're happy to answer any questions about it that you might have, we all started out in the same position as you.

[cerulean smelt]

some even further when builds was more complicated (> <)

[surreal moth]

Just one last question for tonight, how do I farm for maximum value mods?

[cerulean smelt]

countdown would probably be the most efficient with Gear or skill mods as target loot as it just drops a sheer amount of loot in general

or take your chance at crafting them or if you want, trying to run legendary when the target loot is gear or skill mods and praying

[surreal moth]

What is the difference between Gear System Mods and Skill Attachments?

Is skil attachment those you put for example on your drone and stuff?

[cerulean smelt]

gear mods are the Critical Hit Chance/Damage/Skill Duration, Skill haste, Armor regen etc
skill is putting them in your skill so you can +1 yoru cluster mines or add more damage to those mines and other skills

[stark dawn]

For that some go Legendary Summit, but bear in mind that is a lot of grind (slow and difficult)

[surreal moth]

I recently completed 100 floors of Summit and I feel like I lose my mind when I enter Summit again

Thanks yall for helping me out, I am heading to bed now so I am well rested for more sheet rreading tomorrow, gn

[hallow pike]

might seem like a dumb question but im new to end game in td2 and im confused as to how i get more than 1 god role on my gear seeing as i can only recalibrate one section, if anyone can explain to me how i see people having 3 or more god roles on their gear id really appreciate it

[cerulean smelt]

in the tinkering menu, you see Library. people probably filled that in by sacrficing gear for the max stats or nearly max stats then just optimized their gear towards it

[hallow pike]

yea my library is pretty filled up it optimising the only way to get more than 1 god role?

[cerulean smelt]

you can craft or farm up the pieces until it gives you the stats you want max rolled, but that could be a little or a whole lot of farming

[hallow pike]

yea i guess, i just find that whole part of the division so confusing and im trying my best to get my head around it because i wanna progress my build

[fallow fog]

Is this build still good for dps/tank?

Heartbreaker/ catharsis

[cerulean smelt]

is that a PVP build?

[fallow fog]

Pve, im barley SHD 157 I ain’t touching dz for awhile lol

[cerulean smelt]

think it'll still work, but i wasn't a fan of heartbreaker until last season i think? when pulsing would set npcs on fire XD

[fallow fog]

Oh gotcha lol 😂 well I’m new to division 2 I did play division 1 but that was like 6 years ago

[cerulean smelt]

believe div 1 would be more than 6 years ago, 6 years ago i think they put div 1 on life support

[fallow fog]

Lol, sorry let me rephrase that I last played division 1 6 years ago

[cerulean smelt]

@fallow fog welcome back btw

[fallow fog]

I got me striker st Elmo’s dps build, this tanky one & the one shot regulus build and thanks

[hallow pike]

how do u get the st elmos

[fallow fog]

I got it in challenge Countdown with auto rifles being targeted in the loot pool

[cerulean smelt]

hey btw: a few updates ago a good majority of Rifles are now auto

like the Classic M1A

[fallow fog]

Well I’m uninstalling how dare they

[cerulean smelt]

oops, misspelling

[verbal gust]

Oh yeah 🤣

[violet juniper]

Which one is better?

[kindred nova]

What's a good one piece high end mask for dps?

[violet juniper]

Build dependent

[kindred nova]

I'm running all red just need to get a mask, was thinking chill out for some armor and a bunch of mods but I'm not sure

[violet juniper]

Typically a good Ceska or grupo mask with crit rolls is best, due to how much you can get from just one piece of either brand

but like I say, build dependent.

[kindred nova]

Any good named ceska?

[violet juniper]

Only named ceska piece is Devil's Due

and it's a backpack.

[violet juniper]

all chill out actually does is let's you choose the second attribute instead of hoping for a good roll

[kindred nova]

What do you mean I can choose it?

[violet juniper]

Two mod slots. the second mod slot replaces the second attribute, so you have one minor attribute and two mod slots

[kindred nova]

Ya ok

[kindred nova]

Thanks

[hexed steppe]

turmoil

[violet juniper]

oh yeah... That thing

[hexed steppe]

is this all highend dps? the usual goto for masks is coyote for dps

[kindred nova]

Ya that's what I'm thinking

Was going to use a different exotic but coyotes is the goat so

[hexed steppe]

other options would be moving things around if you dont already use fox's/contractors on the build

[heavy cedar]

what set should i go for in order to run support?

[autumn yacht]

both are bad ngl

[hexed steppe]

future initiative - healer/buffer
ongoing directive - buffer/dps
eclipse foam - crowd control (cc)/limited buffer
refactor - skilldamage/heals

[violet juniper]

Why?

max armour, headshot, hazpro, unbreakable talent and belstone brand

[hexed steppe]

pvp, right

[violet juniper]

yeah

where else would you see gear like that lol

[kindred nova]

Am I able to get turmoil? Or was it a one time drop?

[violet juniper]

maybe IH I guess, but mostly PvP

[hexed steppe]

thats what im saying 😅

[violet juniper]

one time event drop. don't worry, it's not a good piece anyway

[kindred nova]

Isn't it?

[violet juniper]

unless you run a one shot build, it's ass

[kindred nova]

Ok

[hexed steppe]

ill just mention that named and exotics arent usually huge game changers or must haves. build proper and it will perform

some are good, and meta even... but not worth getting hyper focused over

[violet juniper]

a good high end is just as good as a named or even an exotic piece

use the gear that's best for the build, don't shove in a piece that doesn't fit for the sake of having it

[autumn yacht]

headshot

theres not really a build where you need a hazpro version of that either

[violet juniper]

lmao

bighorn Regen? where you need hazpro to counter foam?

[autumn yacht]

why would you use badger chest for bh oh nvm

[violet juniper]

perfect unbreakable

[autumn yacht]

ub is frankly trash with shotguns u want intimidate

[hoary valve]

so i'm currently running striker gear only 4 pieces and the pakhan is their any change to the build you guys would go with?

[subtle bluff]

More CHC so you can do more CHD.

[violet juniper]

Please get a ceska piece instead of that chest, you'll do so much more damage

[subtle bluff]

Also the chest should be obliterated talent

[hoary valve]

i played with the gun bit more and didn't like wasn't really my style of playing the game backfire is my stlye now because i got use to it

but thank you for helping

[subtle bluff]

There better stuff than backfire for solo

[hoary valve]

like what?

[subtle bluff]

Tac Vector 9 or SMG9 w/killer

Alright just does more DPS without having to wait to build stacks.

[violet juniper]

Backfire is my main gun too! I run hunter's Fury with mine

[subtle bluff]

That works too.

[violet juniper]

let's be honest, nothing matches the backfire at full stacks lol, it's a beast

but it suffers the same issue as striker chest does

[subtle bluff]

Oh I know at full stacks.

[violet juniper]

if you can't get at least 50 stacks on backfire your DPS will suffer

I always test new SMG's just in case I need a replacement

im looking for an AUG with strained rn, but RNG is being stingy

[subtle bluff]

SMG aug is trash

[onyx sage]

i thought of an analogy for comparing backfire versus a high end smg: do you walk to cross the street or do you use a car?

[hoary valve]

i want to grind exotics what gun be the best to get?

[onyx sage]

obviously you'd walk, in this case if the content is squishy enough you won't get to build backfire stacks and keep it at 100 long enough for it to be worth it

[subtle bluff]

Exotics aren’t always the best and aren’t always need for every build.

[violet juniper]

any SMG is good with my build, I'm just a little bit bored of the bullet sprayer SMG's

What I really want is a Tommy Gun but I can never get one

[subtle bluff]

I’ve been running it to make a video against BF. I KEEP getting all the chungas with it

BF no chunga other than the 2 name. Every HE SMG I get like 2 or 3 Chungas

I don’t have a HF Crit build or I’d just run thru it all with it.

[hoary valve]

think i'm already running what you showed me last time

[violet juniper]

HF crit can break a chunga pretty easy

[subtle bluff]

I know it’s the CC I need to make it easier.

With Tommy Gun

Vector and SMG9 I ran thru them.

[violet juniper]

Tommy Gun with strained should be fine right?

[subtle bluff]

Should just use Demo Fly for them.

[hoary valve]

i was thinking would striker build be good for backfire?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[subtle bluff]

Killer

[violet juniper]

Perfect but harder to keep health

things die so quickly it's not easy to keep stacks up

plus, 10% AoK from gunner really doesn't cut it

[violet juniper]

Decoy and shooting them in the butt is my tactic

I love decoy. it's such a weird skill but it just works so well

[subtle bluff]

Decoy is op

[solar sable]

I agree with strangers

[violet juniper]

It ruined shields forever for me

Unless they bring back the SMG shield from div 1, I'm not using them again lol

[onyx sage]

it took me a while to drop the shield too

[violet juniper]

I'm pretty sure I started trying the decoy after i went on a DH raid for the first time

I hadn't actually seen someone use it, and it seemed way more useful than the tier 0 shield that can take maybe half a clip before exploding

[hoary valve]

okay running backfire build but why do i need memento backpack?

like i have equipped why what does it do

[violet juniper]

you don't have to. But it pretty much eliminates all of the downsides of backfire

give you bonus armour, armour Regen, extra damage, 3 cores, and 30% skill efficiency

It probably does other stuff too that I'm forgetting about

[hoary valve]

okay i just searched it up online

[hexed steppe]

how am i supposed to properly roast a build when one deletes it?

[hexed steppe]

that chest fits into another build, btw 😎

helps if it shows the whole meme 🤦‍♂️

[autumn yacht]

do you have a doc somewhere of all your vuilds

[astral kraken]

there's a word for this: Ascension

[hexed steppe]

my daily drivers i do. its linked in my profile. most are just images, my build guides for mortar, cc ep, turret drone are linked there as well.

anything not linked is likely represented in the main pinned spreadsheet

[untold niche]

I'm running eclipse protocol and the vile mask is the pulse worth running because it goes through walls and cover and hits everything

[hexed steppe]

jammer can be good, especially for this event. are you running with the eclipse bag (30%amp)?

[untold niche]

Yes

[hexed steppe]

its better paired with fire. but fire chem/jammer should be ok. just be mindful, the only non-robot damage from jammer will just be vile ticks

[untold niche]

Currently I'm running the pulse and the trap for mass Satus effect on the map

[hexed steppe]

and obv the event makes jammer super potent

[astral kraken]

if you're in groups foam is a big help to your teammates

foam + fire is a really good combo

[hexed steppe]

i see around 750k damage ticks for fire sticky. 500k-600k with fire chem

[hexed steppe]

i wouldnt do traps. youll move off of them often

my ep, for reference. haste mods.

[untold niche]

What's that main weapon

[hexed steppe]

wyvern, china glove also fits

capacitor

[solar sable]

Capacitor

[hexed steppe]

it a guaranteed drop after completing 5 summit ascent challenges

fire is able to dip into both skill damage and status effects. cap has 12% damage to armor that boosts fire

[untold niche]

@hexed steppe is it better than pestilence

[hexed steppe]

much

cap allows you to stack an extra 60% skill damage

[untold niche]

Also how is your gear blue ?

[hexed steppe]

color blind settings

[untold niche]

Ah

This is my set up

[hexed steppe]

menu> settings> accessibility

change either glove, knee, or holster to a highend piece like wyvern

only need 4 pieces of the green set

you want to keep ep bag, ep chest, and vile in the build

having an insync talent on a shotgun also grants 30% skill damage when its procced

scorpio exotic shotgun fits too

[untold niche]

@hexed steppe OK will do are you on ps?

[hexed steppe]

unfort no. pc and no crossplay

[cerulean smelt]

well, PC has cross progression at least IE you buy it on ubisoft connect then you buy the base game on steam you just continue where you left off on ubisoft connect

[hexed steppe]

thats an interesting way to skill/dps. commendable 😎 .
-# lurk mode deactivated

[cerulean smelt]

still working on it though

would love the knees be skill tier too, so the 3 palisades can be weapon damage

[hexed steppe]

crit numbers are solid

[cerulean smelt]

what do you think? keep glass cannon or go obliterate? or just have both ready?

[hexed steppe]

glass. itll boost both skills and weapon damage

[cerulean smelt]

build was inspired after your hybrid build

[slate wedge]

change knees or gloves for 1 piece golan

[cerulean smelt]

nah, electrique less hassle

[slate wedge]

oh true lol

[restive python]

Good Dark Winter build?

[astral kraken]

any smg build really. hunter's fury is good. check the pinned spreadsheet.

you'll want to make sure you're at chc cap to best utilize the killer talent

[restive python]

Ah. Hunter's Fury with Memento good?

[hazy steeple]

Yep that's a solid combo, just throw a Ceska Chest on with it and you're golden.

yes even if your CHC is fine without it.

[astral kraken]

yea. 1 or 2 blue cores wont hurt.

keep removing blue cores if you can handle it

[hazy steeple]

I'd suggest starting off with just Memento for cores, since the core and skill tier should both count for your shield.
Just make sure you play within the HF (hunters fury) buff range, as that'll also get you max damage for your Dark Winter.

You will eventually get +10% CHC and +20% CHD from your SHD Watch, so you can factor that in to any future builds.

[restive python]

IK, been playing with it for a while, SHD 1600. Question is with or without Memento

[hazy steeple]

Memento is good even if you only get the long buffs, it's only improved if you get the short ones too.
It's honestly the strongest overall Exotic that we have right now.

[cerulean smelt]

a month or 2 ago i'd be doubting you
but localdeck opened my eyes to it and now understanding the short term and long term i'm like why did i sleep on this exotic for so long?!

[cerulean smelt]

although, i wish they'd flip the long term and short term icon uses, make long term the colored in bit short term the greyed out

[soft sinew]

Guys, can anyone recommend an pvp build with gunner specialisation!!

[solar sable]

PvP Guide

[gilded swift]

Anyone got a good dark winter build ?

[astral kraken]

#td2-build-advice message

[odd ginkgo]

Opinions on the Pakhan Exotic LMG? Build around it or Stash Queen?

[odd ginkgo]

The attributes are best at max, but I started with a suboptimal build and had fun. It was my first run n gun and made me fall in love with the style.

Mine is even 3 red, 3 blue. It does fine in Challenging solo or in a group. I haven't tried it in Heroic content for a while.

It's best with a shield because you need to be out of cover to get the extra damage proc from it. I run chest and back Umbra, like I said before, that way it heals me when I jump back in cover.

The one in the pins does more damage, but it is a build built for raids. I just like to clear PvE content with mine.

Beyond my knowledge I'm afraid. Those are relatively new gear to me. They appeared while I was taking a hiatus from the game.

It's worth a try, what can it hurt? Just some time playing the game.

[patent fossil]

I would say start from the build guide given in the pinned spreadsheet, then swap stuff around to your taste. Eg memento backpack for extra regen, or backfire (a popular choice this season due to the modifiers). Umbra is pretty easy going about what weapons you run with it

[stray atlas]

creeping death or wicked on the backpack?

[urban latch]

Wicked.

Don't think of OD as a status build. It's a buffing DPS build that essentially marks things with the bleed effect.

I'd also get a main weapon of your choice with sadist

[stray atlas]

so sswap the shotgun?

i also have god rolled contractors gloves, i want to get the mask u get from brooklyn army base but dont have

u rekon that could be strong?

[urban latch]

You could swap out both weapons for something with sadist.

[stray atlas]

i have the carnage

[urban latch]

A Scorpio is another good weapon option on the build as well.

[stray atlas]

but isnt the bluescreen quite good?

i dont have too much since im only shd 37

[urban latch]

It's ok, but nothing amazing. But sadist is one of the strongest talents in the game when it's active, so you really want it on OD

[stray atlas]

does hollow point just automtically add bleed?

so its always +35%

[urban latch]

Yeah, as long as your killing in a single mag

[stray atlas]

3.7m dps with sadist

getting 4 with bluescreen

[urban latch]

How are you calculating that?

[stray atlas]

shooting range

named heroic enemy

i could do more with contractors but lose survivablity

[urban latch]

The dps calc at the range is horribly inaccurate. Check the pins, there's a quick DPS calc in there

[stray atlas]

ok

yeah i cant figure all that out lol

[odd ginkgo]

What cores are you running?

[stray atlas]

contractors is god rolled

[odd ginkgo]

I recommend you drop the decoy and grab the healer gas. That frees the hive for a stinger. Remember you can proc Bluescreen to Disorient marked enemies by using a skill. The healer gas has 3 or 4 canisters and charges up pretty quick.

[stray atlas]

yeah i play a lot solo so im gonna keep the hive

[odd ginkgo]

I use it as a method to get blood ammo going if I can't proc it from combustibles on the map.

I still suggest the healer gas canisters or the fire gas canisters then.

[stray atlas]

yeah i am using that now

what about the mask from the brooklyn thing

[urban latch]

Imo chem foam is the best status skill to start OD. It's just a very good skill in general

[astral kraken]

i like banshee pulse. needs gunner spec tho (which is really good with OD)

[odd ginkgo]

Chem foam doesn't apply a status though.

[astral kraken]

he means riot foam

[odd ginkgo]

What status does it apply?

[astral kraken]

foam lol

[stray atlas]

damn sadist is doing loads in kegendary rn

[odd ginkgo]

Foam isn't a status effect, I'm talking about a means to apply a status to get the blood ammo flowing.

[stray atlas]

im just marking everyoiine with bluesceen at the start then skill then sadist

[astral kraken]

foam is a status effect

[urban latch]

Foam is definitely a status that can get you bleed ammo

[stray atlas]

is that correct?

[urban latch]

EMP is another skill you can use. Can be easier to start bleed but less effective as an actual skill.

[astral kraken]

no start with a skill that applies status, kill the status effected enemy, and you're good

[stray atlas]

ah ok

[astral kraken]

bluescreen requires stacks to apply status effects which will make things harder for you

[odd ginkgo]

I can't find it listed as a status effect. It just holds a character in place.

[stray atlas]

should i still use that on bigger enemies?

[urban latch]

It's technically the ensnare status

[odd ginkgo]

Well butter my biscuits!

I like my healer gas, but I'll have to try out the foam in my OD build.

[stray atlas]

anyone trying to run legendary tidal basin?

exotic cache waiting for me

[odd ginkgo]

Try the LFG channel for your platform.

People don't wander into here looking to group up.

[astral kraken]

You're in for a treat!

[stray atlas]

ive done it before lol dw

[astral kraken]

Lots of purple minitanks for you to fight.

[stray atlas]

i am just on a new account restarting

[odd ginkgo]

Will foam spread to nearby enemies using an EP build, like fire does?

[astral kraken]

it sure does and it is the top tier crowd control build in the game

[odd ginkgo]

TIL!

[odd ginkgo]

Opinions on the Pakhan Exotic LMG? Build around it or Stash Queen?

[eager viper]

Loved the Pakhan in div1. Not so much in div2