#td2-build-advice
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i wanna test pakhan more to see if i like its accuracy over iron lung or carnage
The carnage kinda kicks in a circle while the phakan just kinda bounces vertical more
yeah i don't really like carnage as much if i have to shoot at long range
PH left Carn right
is this a good build if i really like to use Striker drone?
yeah i might just use a m249 tbh
if you tell the drone what to attack then yes it can be used for the drone.
the rigger damage bonus triggers when you interact with a skill.
aka this
...worth keeping around for something?
If you dont have capacitor already it is THE BEST skill build gun ingame
Well i just got it so 😮
what is a good secondary for it? Razorback made me like rifles
where can i get it?
huh okay
Iron lung too goated
i agree with the stranger
🔨😡
I love Iron Lung. I’m falling for Bluescreen too but only on ND.
You're gonna hate me for this but I use it with Turmoil kneepads and striker. I actually find it fun in summit
Blue screen handles like a dream but i always forget the talent
I don’t hate if you know understand what you’re doing with it good if you’re using and having issues then…..ya
It works sooo well with ND it makes leggo a breeze with one good strikers
Talent still procs if you kill through transfer damage?
I'll def need to bust my ND build back out. Been collecting bunnies in my stash
Correct. Even on turmoil
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It works on OD too if you don't wanna juggle skills all the time
Read the talent and you'll understand.
Trust! There a guy that just does RMM in leggo and run into once awhile he took the build and freak loves it. It can really make leggo easy.
Crowd Control is clutch in every content it is thrown on. I breezed this group thru Heroic DUA and none of them ran strikers. Without CC we would've wiped for sure many times
Game can just be picky between what counts for talents😭
Eclipse my goat
Can you test something for me. Can you see if Bluescreen marks stays on when you swap weapons? If so test to see if you can proc it still.
Currently not in game, but I might know someone who can
You've been summoned in #td2-pvp-discussions 🙋♀️
We will soon get our answer
I just want to ask about the Library in the Tinker..is the passive skills/stats/core/talents that I extracted from the looted gears are automatically goes to my equiped gears? If not whats the use of it(library)
To Recal or improve existing stats on gear, or trading in a desired stat on a gear. Like say for example, you get striker gloves with perfect weapon damage roll (15%) and it drops with say 7% weapon handling, and you desire it to be Crit Damage, you can swap the weapon handling off for Crit Damage
Or, if it drops with the rolls you want, but you want to improve the stat, you'll need to have a max attribute in your library in order to be able to optimize existing stats on gear. I recommend farming for gear with decent rolls and then filling your library with Max Stat attributes
what would be better a catalyst ongoing directive build with backfire or catalyst hunters fury build with backfire? in terms of damage and consistency
in terms of dealing with the bleed because hunters fury has 20% armor on kill
Currently catalyst is bugged and not working with stacks.
Should i keep the Rigger set while i use Capacitor untill level 40?
i mean still what would be better if it worked properly
because ongoing doesnt have armor on killso prolly die of bleed
Without being able to test it I can't say atm. I really dislike that rainbow rolls on it.
What do you mean?
backfire
What about it?
i mean it will kill you aint it?
No. It's only gives bleeds on new stacks
hmmm so ongoing could still work
God I really need to make a write up about how backfire works. It's being asked so much.
Imo depending on the content backfire isn't needed.
It's competent for that purpose if you are asking
i mean i just wanna try new guns
oh?
instead of letting them dust away in the storage
Everyone always wants something newnthat isn't "meta"
At max stack you stop getting bleed
I explained that already.
I know but saying max stack is easier to understand
Also that's not correct it will still bleed since you made new stacks but it won't bleed afterwards.
Why a write up for it needs to he made.
Rewrite this in a way I can understand
A write up explain everything about backfire needs to be made.
So?
Nvm...
I just offer a different explanation
Not sure why you need to make a fuss about it
ha i'm watching Lud get added to the spreadsheet in real time right now
Caretaker is already in now it looks like
People slept on caretaker until they used it themselves. I've been screaming since the meta changes that the G36C isn't as bad as people think it is. If anything it seems like it does more damage than Lexington entirely
I haven't officially tested it in the range but it just feels that way
ah you mean if you compared it to a lexington with killer?
Correct
outside of handling characteristics and the range it should be pretty close.
Is Burst DPS lex killer is still more than caretaker
At range the G36 has noticeable spread, but you shouldn't be that far trying to laser people anyways. Within normal circumstances, the G36 keeps up with the Lexington... If not does a better job than Lex at doing sustained damage
Lex has a higher ROF tho so it's burst DPS will be better no matter what tinkering you do to get the caretaker to match
Killer is very strong talent but to keep it up is a requirement.
^ this
Sometimes I can't for the life of me get killer to proc. So I just swap to an Elmo when that's the case
😐
I mean you have a talent that procs on kill so don’t you want burst?? Sustain DPS is like irrelevant in this game lol
sustain dps is relevant when you can't one mag a particular target of if you suck at aiming lol.
Right and Lex is a laser so surely we can come close to landing every bullet lol
On mnk at least you just pull down your mouse a little while firing 😃
Like with the current power creep one magging something is hardly an issue lol. Last time we had to think about that was when FAMAS was the best
Yes but then again, aiming isn't an issue for me. I play both inputs, mnk and controller. Mostly controller bc I have permanent nerve damage in my wrists. The point I'm talking about is max stacks with your default striker build. G36 hits for more damage long term, Lexington for better burst DPS. I've noticed the Caretaker overall feels more powerful in the damage output it does. I'm willing to hit for harder if it means I trade in some Burst DPS. I'm not always trying sling bullets as fast as I can, sometimes the sustained DPS matters more than burst. Both guns will have a difference, always. However, it's always down to preference. I love the lex and I love the caretaker. Lex feels like a copy and paste of the St Elmo's, which is heavily overused. G36 is a nice switch up. Shoots slightly slower but hits way harder. Seems like a fair trade for me
Exactly this. I've noticed on Gunner type Named Bosses, the caretaker melts them quicker than the Lexington due to the higher damage output (obviously Killer being proc'd)
anyone got a build that can do pve/pvp dark zone in the same build?
Not really, no. Pvp focuses on high end setups with armor meanwhile PvE focuses heavily on gearsets
You can take some Gearsets into dz but most require stacking. You can't always stack so high end is better
oh okay thank you
I'd recommend checking the pinned build guide here in this channel
There's some decent builds thrown in there that are worth taking
I know noob question but what’s ND and OD god it’s been forever. Negotiators dilemma and ongoing directive I’m dumb
Probably Ongoing Directive (?)
oh and ND should be Negotiator's Dilemma
But yea all the acronyms can be like a stun grenade when you're newish or returning 😅
not really as skills are supposed to be one of it at a time
Il make it legal sidious voice
it'll get patched very quicly once it does happen
your video doesn't show you lagging at all so not sure what was going on other than some kind of exploit
ohhh, your video woke up the devs 🤔
Lmao
Did it 😟
Lol
Well let’s just hope nothing happens 😆😆
Anyone got a decent bullet king dps build, or it is just strikers ceska obliterate
never used bullet king for a long time. tried it a few time and can't fathom it being useful aside in Iron Horse Raid
Bruh then why tell the whole server how to do it
Gotta be some kind of bug or exploit should not even be mentioned in here.
I want to make a build using 2p gila guard, 2p imminence armaments and 2p hotshot any reccomendations for stats?
i'd honestly choose anything other than 2 hotshots, but then again i'm on the stance you wear all 4 gearsets or nothing as you do nerf yourself doing so
I'm not quite sure what's good or not as Ive only just hit lvl 40 but thats stuff I have and might work in a build
Rn I'm still using a lvl 29 bp
Check the pinned sheet
All hail the spreadsheet.
Why cant i max optimize even though i already have that stat max on my library? Im just afraid that you can only optimize 1 time and ny equip would go to waste
Can a streamlined Lexington compete with bighorn on hsd?
short on materials? short on ecredits?
1 have 100k plus currency
i can only increase .5% so does it mean that it would cost me those materials every .5% increase on the stat?
yes, then the next one will be more materials needed to go higher
oh i see but the material increase would only apply on that particular item and stat? im just worried that the increase would be permanent and material requirement would increase across the board
nah, think the next one will just max it out for you same as the weapon damage, small increase then maxed next optimization
Who told the whole server? 😂 like huh
🛐
I said do the steps I cut the video in half for a reason I didn’t show everything I did lol
Please reaquaint yourself with rule 6. No discussion of exploits.
If I'm looking for a specific peice of gear from a specific brand, how do I farm it?
Check target loot for the brand, or select it yourself in summit or countdown
almost sounds like you know but want confirmation?
I'd like to know if there's more than just countdown
Countdown is fastest but you can potentially find the target loot you need in the open world or a mission
Or summit as mentioned
Cheers
summit is just extremly slow compared to countdown
How many drops do you get from the summit?
Summit vs Countdown for loot farming is a matter of quality over quantity, Countdown has a higher quantity due to sheer amount of enemies: time completions.
not to mention you get currency to spend at the vendor for things like named caches and exotics
So basically if i get a low roll, i can optimize that stat as many times as i want right?
yes, but i think each time the material costs gets higher and higher
hence we tell people get the drops with the correct attributes/stats on it so you can change the talent freely on weapons, chest and backpacks
What gear is normally worn with capacitor
there's also summit but in terms of volume of item drops per minute, countdown is more efficient; if you have others loot targeting the same thing, even more chances for you to get good items
But the increase is just for that stat and item right? Its not permanent on your account that the mats and cost increase right? Did i get this one correct?
i like LocalDecks hybrid build he has with capacitor and memento
Got it
So u can just change the talent and optimize the rest right?
not that i know of. just that it increases if you're trying to optimize it from say a single digit to max
yes
capacitor is versatile so there really isn't one set of gear to use with it; you can go full skill build or hybrids
I see so it is really material intensive to optimize then hmmmm
local deck did something like 3 empress i think? memento, contractor's and fox's i'd have to double check though
And is it hard to get the mats for optmizing? Sorry just started the game too many questions
yes if you're going from single digit percentages to maximum
I see so at keast now i know which values to keep on equips
depends
think doing the solar power control point nets you a bunch of random materials but there's a time limit to it i think? like not sure how long after you loot all the materials you can go back and loot it again kind of thing
Yes, it's often faster to farm for max or near-max rolls than to farm optimisation mats
I have two non optimized builds right now the striker and hotshot, which build should i optimize first?
I see thats why last week they telling me to get near max stats, make sense
Is Heartbreaker worth running at all
personally it was fun at one time, but trying to make sure you can pulse things or hit them in the head just seemed not worth it compared to strikers which you just shoot and hit any body part for stacking
Yeah I figured that might be the case, I'm just trying to find something with survivability cause the heroic control points feel brutal with striker due to having no armor or DR.
only most effective way to make sure something is pulsed is techinican link laser pointer gun mod on a long barreled guns. you point they get pulsed
or run some iteration of night watcher mask with pulse, think it'd make it so your pulse is ready again before the effect wears off
Ok I'll give those a try, thanks
Is foundry bulwark worth running cause i like tanky builds with of course dps
Anyone know what gear sets are more prone to having companion as a talent?
I've used the following in the dlc, heroic difficulty, to have bonus armor; they are NOT meta but fun and do work, both solo and in a group
variant 1:
Catharsis mask
Liquid Engineer backpack (the named Belstone with Perfect Bloodsucker talent, gives bonus armor on kill)
Pecaro's holster
2 more Brazos
1 more Belstone (for the 10% armor on kill but you can use whatever you want here)
Obliterate talent on chest
Caretaker as primary
Scorpio as secondary
variant 2: same as variant 1 but chest, holster, gloves and kneepads replaced with Ongoing Directive
variant 3:
Memento backpack
Belstone chest with Obliterate
rest Virtuoso gearset (gives bonus armor on kills > 25 m away, rest of the bonus armor from Memento)
Caretaker as primary
Dark Winter as secondary
Nope, foundry has no dps. Something like heartbreaker is about as close as you can get, or maybe eagle bearer of you have it
Can you reconfigure a gun that has been max expertised? Also what is consider the best attribute for Iron lung? DttoC and ?
don't know about that...depending on the situation Foundry with Catharsis / Memento and a damage chest talent (like Obliterate) can work
You can't change the 2nd attribute on any gun, just the 3rd.
so with LMG's, you're always stuck using dtooc, and you can pick what the 3rd one is.
The general consensus is beteeen fire-rate/crit chance/damage to armour.
Okay ty
Yes, pretty sure you don't lose expertise levels when reconfiguring, best 3rd stat for lmgs these days is probably chc.
High end build formula didn't change, right? With prototype set, and stuff. I imagine it gets nasty with intruduction of Tinkerer to the build, and streamlined weapon in second slot.
Skill-DPS hybrids where your skills e.g. turret is always next to your cover.
OG smart cover...
The fact that smart cover requires you to be in cover, makes it not very smart
It's very smart to be in cover during a fire-fight.
Not necessarily
Smart cover is probably smarter then the agent. Very smart of it to not be a target.
Who covers who, eh?
It's smart to make use of cover, but often smartest to not actually be attached to that cover
Exactly
being out of cover in div2
Leg National Zoo when you step out of the train.
Monorail*
Out of the cyclops train.
High end build formula is the same for all weapon types, right?
Standard high end crit build will work with pretty much all weapons, yeah, although in most cases there are better options for that weapon type (you wouldn't normally run a high damage mmr on a crit build for instance)
If I didn’t get the overlord last season can I still farm it even if I don’t have the blueprint?
In theory yes, although some recent seasonal exotics don't seem to have been put into the loot pools correctly
Or very skewed weightings
I don't think there is any 'weighting' within loot pools in this game, just a case of is it in the pool, or not? Something like Catharsis being in the 'random exotic' pool but not in the target loot pool (until you get the blueprint) might give it the appearance of a weighting.
Oh I understand,what i mean is what gear drops with that talent
Electrique has a Named Chespiece 'Henri' which has the Perfect variant, but other than that, all chest pieces have an equal chance of rolling with Companion
ridgeway pride with a red eclipse protocol, how is it pve and pvp
Sucks in both
Just to clarify no other chest besides Henri has companion
damn no fake pred mark build
bleed just isnt that good yeah?
is the gun you get for the shepherd project worth it? waiting for backup requests takes so long that its kinda annoying to d
Caretaker. It's alright.
do you think its a better choice for a striker build than st elmo's?
Honestly: yes.
Elmo is fine and all, but it's a definite "just use it so you don't have to work on getting something better" option.
i see
is there any fix for backup calls taking so long to matchmake for? is it a bug, or is it meant to be taking this long
any other suggestions other than caretaker perhaps?
There's a bunch of meta choices in the 📌 pinned Striker build in the spreadsheet, but pretty much anything with a similar fire-rate high-end will work great, Strikers is really OP right now.
what about this?
There's a lot of people looking to run them right now, basically.
I have crafted so much gear it aint even funny at this point…💀
Companion is a backpack talent.
This is a chest tho.
Correct. Henri is the only chest with companion
glass cannon 50% dmg taken is not worth it in legendary content and like anything of that difficulty?
it's worth, if you know how to not take unnecessary damage
i main it in legendary
if you don't use it then striker chest is the other option, it does require a lot of stacking
obliterate? or actual just strikers chest
you can use any of those 3
is strikger gear still usable?
gc is worth using because of no stacking
yes, still meta
its been like a year since I played this game
lowkey do you got any builds I just got back into the game 🔥
still in the pinned sheet as always
the build guides are in google docs now instead of evernote because evernote is a pain
agreed.
whats a good signature weapon with striker gear? im currently using sniper
I’d use gunner just for the reserves
I wonder if theres any support builds worth running
OD, eclipse, FI
They in the pinned spread sheet yo
alright ty
any advice for build?what set is good?
Striker
What do people think about Ongoing Directive?
pretty good
A good "dmg share" set for teammates.
Im looking for a build that lets me play Vector. Any ideas? Ive allways liked bleed but I feel like it doesnt tick for alot but im running the Hunter set atm .
Ik,gone theough 2k ceremics💀
I can't get St. Elmo's for the life of me. Ran 5 Countdowns on Challenging and got a couple other exotics
Is there a good list of set and exotic effects? I find the wiki laggy as hell
Sorry, wall of text:
I ran a Hunter's Fury set with an SMG forever (basically all the way until SHD Level 1000) and it easily carried me through everything heroic while allowing a very "in your face" playstyle, which I enjoy.
It's very un-original, but here goes: Crusader Shield + any skill of your choice. Ceska chest with Obliterate talent and CHC + CHD + CHD mod, Memento with CHD mod, 4x Hunter's Fury, all with CHD as attribute and mod, 2 of them rolled to blue cores (most people hate this or find it dumb, but for me it was the sweet spot between damage and survivability since it boosts both the Memento bonus armor and the shield).
For group play or if you hate Memento, instead get a Sokolov backpack with Bloodsucker (sustain) or Wicked (DPS) talent.
For the Vector you just mod it with 3x 5% CHC, extended mag and Strained as talent (or use the named Vector called Dark Winter).
combined arms does it have a cd?
I can’t find the ceska man
Thats pretty much what im using now and yes it does feel really good. Havent tried Dark Winter gonna check it out
Ah sorry that wasn't much help then 😬 I'm not sure if there are dedicated builds that focus on the bleed damage itself, usually I only see bleed builds with Ongoing Directive as a means to pump weapon damage
Guys what’s the best way to target St Elmo’s, or is just play the game hope it drops…?
Oh btw rq if you still don't mind, what does green, blue and etc next to builds mean
Like main stat?
You could get one from exotic caches, I'd say countdown is best for that, you can focus elmo also
Anyone got any tips to improve sniping im new to sniping but I wanna get good
Are you 40 already?
CD or Summit targeted loot.
It's not fun I know but at the same time max out your library. Get exotic caches etc.
Got it
what's the go to well rounded solo CQB build? tried so many the last few days and I can't make my mind up as to what to invest in, i need someone else to make the decision for me lol
......... You just said CQB...
You need to figure out what you really want to do...
lol i know, i do like the SMG's but you're so locked into being toe to toe
Striker, nego or ongoing directive for mid range, HF for close range, hotshot for long range
true true. chatterbox worth farming, or tac vector does the trick?
No and Yes.
Or I guess run headhunter's fury with revolver, 1886 and White Death so you can pop heads at any range
chatterbox is fun to use tho :(
alright, so like 2 red, memento, ceska chest with obliterate, firebird?
Trust me I know.. I'll use it on door spawns.
:DDDDD
BUZZZZZZ
i meant does that sound like a good build, or too much blue?
Strikers, Ceska obli and Menento yes.
The amount of context you give us is minimal and doesn't help me advise you really.
I'll just point you to the Pinned Messages and to the GDoc's for builds.
ok sorry, thanks for the help
No need to be sorry. If you want help ask but if you're trying to be specific but not give enough context of what you want it's kind of hard for me to help you.
Hi! I just reached level 40 on my pc account. How can I get a nice pvp build. It s my first time doing a build, because my dad was playing on my console and he made me some builds there. I also don t know how to farm good equipment. Any advice?
Yes
In the Pinned Messages there’s GDOc with a Hotshot guide
Exotics and nameds from new DLC is not in spreadsheet right?
Probably not. If you look up ubi div the patch notes are there
Cant find the patch notes
hi can someone help me with my build? i have mainly dps stuff but i just die in a few bullets 😂
am brand new to the game
Pinned Messages has a Doc in it with a bunch of stuff.
Got a question I need the ceska with obliterate what kind of chest price do I need to find of it? To make it good the only ones I find are not good
you just keep targeting ceska, it's rng
I know that but I’m new to builds and using library and tinkering I know everything now but just the ceska vest is weird for me idk how to know if it’s a good one to upgrade
someone can say which is the best striker build at the moment?
4pc striker ceska obliterate and cayote mask
It’s hard to explain
hi there, can t find any build that use the new mask Catalyst, anyone have a tip or a link?
with only being able to modify one attribute OR the talent, for any gear piece tbh, you either want to roll:
- both attributes as the ones you want so you can change the talent of the chest to the one you want
- 1 attribute being the one you want as well as the talent being the one you want, so you can change the 2nd attribute to the one you want
in terms of a ceska chest, its more than likely being used as a DPS piece, so for the attributes you want crit hit chance, crit hit damage, and the talent "obliterate"
It's bugged atm and not working so nothign atm.
Buzzing I got some good drops and the grind has been a blast. Starting to really take shape now! Totally fallen back in love with D2
expanding on what mrchow said, the catalyst is currently only giving 2% weapon damage no matter how many stacks you have, but the devs are planning on fixing it i believe next patch
Thanks that is what I needed
And the attribute needs to be max because it’s not worth it to upgrade it all the way
preferably yeah but id still spend the resources anyways so i dont have to keep grinding for a better roll
Is there not a ceska vest blueprint ?
nope
So I'm on my partners account, making them a high end build. I can't get fox's Prayer, so what's the next best option? I was thinking cloak
The build is in progress, the pieces are mostly placeholders
I'm planning on using Memento, I have Contractors already
get fox's prayer
I just said I can't get it
is there any div 2 build youtubers that anyone actually recommends?
The problem with them all is all the meta builds have been done to absolute death, so all they have left is suboptimal and/or meme builds that work up to Heroic... But most decent builds survive heroic anyways. Trying to find an actual good build YouTuber is going to be an errand.
I figured most of them just upload anything they can think of just for the sake of making content. I think i’ll just look at the builds on the gear spreadsheet from now on.
I haven't seen the spreadsheet but this is what I usually show people.
pretty much what Decoyspell said, they just take some builds, tweak a piece or 2 and label it "IMMORTAL, GODLY, BEST DPS, BEST SKILL, etc"
Unfortunate I can’t get lexington or turmoil anymore. Half of the builds atleast use lexington
Police M4 is only like 3-6% behind the Lexington in terms of DPS
Gun looks kinda ugly though
Is the M4 better than the famas?
no
Lexington ? What’s that?
oh nothing, just a gun Content Creators put on a pedestal
It’s unfortunate people drive for things that are irrelevant. But things are things and that’s the end of it
Gg helping people bro
i only wish i knew what google doc Decoy is referring to
oh, maybe the one showing the AR damages?
It’s the one in the pinned section I thought.
Ima make a signature on my profile of the link to the pinned message so whenever I make a comment they see it 🤣
it is , but it's probably not the one Decoy wants to link
probably a much narrower show of the 4ish weapons at the top or something?
Well it is the best
thank you for this, i was looking at the docs but this has abit more info
is it really though?
i replaced it with Caretaker for the moment
yes
it's the best AR
It's only gonna get better when Abridged mask comes out because it works with the mask
Speaking of that mask, I really want to try a DB with optimist and Brazen
it did in PTS, so did streamline when you deployed a shield
so live it may get put in the "named list" and not work at all. will it still be the best?
yup, due to base damage being highest in game
EH... In Burst it's up there but that 2.03 reload hurts.
if they put lexington on the named item list to not work with tinkerer then is it still the best?
yes, cuz not everyone is gonna run tinkerer
I think it's gonna be a big choice for people if they want to use St Elmo's or Tinkerer, if the average player (not dien) even understands what it does
carbine 7 shoots just like it. like a laser but that doesn't get used much
Carbine is great but lower damage
I can never seem to kill anyone with that thing, even though it sounds and shoots like a dream
yeah, but everyone can get a carbine
noone can get a lexington
Famas.... Win
I forget why we put M4 on the guide vs Famas on it
police m4 just the same straight firing and just shy of lexington damage
yea would lexington actually not be able to benefit from tinkerer? i know its a named item but its not like it has a perfect talent
F2k recoil is lil hard to control.
propbably because it's like an upgraded carbine 7 with damage
Accuracy probably
In the PTS it worked. I hope because it doesn't have a perfect talent that it'll work, because then I can abuse First Sight
in PTS it worked fine, but like i told grem Streamline worked with a shield deployed too
I hope First Sight works.
Stabilize and Strained are gonna make that thing a dream
For me shotguns are going to go hard. I'm gonna have some fun clips.
Double barrel with optimised and Brazen is something I need to try
Why double?
5 stacks of optimised in one shot
Famas and streamlined? King
fixed oops
Does someone have an awesome fire starter build I don’t know about?
could anyone tell me if its possible to get umbra to drop with blue cores or only red
is possible, down to rng
nah, think it only drops as reds
Umbra only drops with red cores
great gonna be farming all yeah thanks guys
Pinned Message EP build
If using an LMG with striker, what would be a good Talent?
Chest? Bag? Weapons?
sorry lol
i am using the Stoner if that helps
Alternatively the exotics blue screen and iron lung are quite popular
You should try out blue screen whenever you can get your hands on one, it's an exotic stoner
In that case I would farm another lmg tbh
RPK, L86, MG5 seem to still be top contenders
i think my issue is that i dont have all the attachments unlocked so i cant use some guns to their full potential
I think 3xp is still on its worth farming some control points at challenging or heroic to get some of those knocked out
Side missions too if you have any left
The ones you're looking for are all the ones that give crit chance
No M249?
yea and some extended mags
Did they buff it I don't remember
Big RPM buff.
Ohhh yeah that's why pesti is so popular now I forget
Since TU21
i have an alright Big Show if that would be better
Unfortunately thunder strike is no good
yeah that is why i wasnt using it
Named and Exotic gear isn’t always good or needed for builds.
The base gun the MG5 is good though
If you ever get your hands on the sleipnir that thing is really good
Most LMG with Frenzy is good now only if you’re keeping Frenzy up. Frenzy got a +4 sec buff.
Like im not looking for perfection yet, i am just ,looking for something good enough to farm with on chall or heroic
If you're looking for something to farm with I suggest hotshot
There's a bunch of build templates and guides in the pinned spreadsheet here
We do. It really depends on your playstyle preference
i like striker for sure, i just wanted a optimal weapon to use it with becuase my St. isnt that great
Striker is good it's just hotshot is like the Premier turn your brain off and farm build
oh okay
For countdown and incursions and such yeah striker would be much better
i havent looked into hotshot so i will have to take a look, it is still a weapon build right? not a fan of skill builds
Yeah it's a headshot based MMR set
M249!
^
M249 then try the rest!
oh okay
I wonder if that means black Friday is any good now
It’s not bad. I used it on tanker for a week or 2

“Black Friday” needs a buff now that streamline is around
I still use it in PvP
If only there was a #1380126780152614944 channel for that
But in pve it's not very good
Must be new damn
Ya I as like that’s new
Rip
I was able to use it in Tanker fine. So idk.
On the occasions that I do visit the meret estate these days I pack a backfire for everything except turrets
Black Friday can put streamlined? lol
That's a named weapon with a perfect talent so no.
are there any differences between the guns with the exact same numbers in the spreadsheet? Are the FAL's all the same for example?
What do you mean?
All the weapons have a Base WD.
i think the only differences in the fals is their appearance maybe?
so in the weapon tab of the spread sheet, for the 4 rows of FAL variants all the numbers are the same
this?
yeah aside fro mthe strega, to me that looks like 4 of the same gun with a different name
the replica is a crafted weapon, but yeah they're all the same aside maybe their appearance? i haven't used them in forever so i don't know exactly
ok thanks was getting confused. i think i'd prefer to use an m4, but only have usable FAL's so far
Is Streamline TWD or AWD
After you get the birdie from Master Roosevelt, can you farm it on any difficulty or is master the only way?
Can farm it on any difficulty in the first place master being a better chance at a drop. I imagine it’s that for all climax missions.
Ok cool thank you
awd
yo should i be stopping at 40% crit when using chameleon/striker build or just go for 60% and aim for body shots?
i dont have coyote's mask if that matters also*
I’d stop at 50
i push to 60, or close to it on any crit dps, including when using coyote. do a simple (chc x chd) calc and pick whatever gives highest value. dont rely on buffs to make it up unless you can maintain a ton of uptime, otherwise you are losing potential damage
@subtle bluff / @onyx sage , whats the highest crit dps talent for ar. im thinking of swapping bluescreen or iron lung into secondary slot, (striker +chest/bag) setup and need lex take elmos place.
also possibly leaving elmo in and running highend lmg.
open to suggestions as this will mainly for legs and both yall way better than me at those
i personally reference the talent sheets from ikia to know but i've gravitated to using either measured or ranger for consistency
I see you a man of culture
if i use lex, i only use it on mid to long range, if i need for short range it's usually with smg
alright, can link me, or is it in the sheet? consistency is definitely a big consideration. i currently use flatline on lex for same reason (on hb), but dont want to sacrifice gunner spec just to use it
Bluescreen ND is one of main builds for Leggo now.
It's mostly a player's preferences with the weapons imo.
i definitely have a nego setup or 10. will try that. any blue cores or all red?
what i consider as consistent is if it doesn't require me to empty my mag or not make me take full advantage because i have to swap off. so things like killer, strained or optimist will not be favored much for me
all red. you'll need to learn your way through the encounters to find the best place to hold out
Full Red Ceska Obli and Exo Glove. I just go ham on marks then start focusing
some encounters will favor HH builds over crit, but for most encounters you can find 1 or 2 spots that are best for you to hold out from
for crit builds*
i also recommend measured but only if you're playing mid-range or closer. you either will hate using it at long-range or will need a lot of practice to make use of it well because of how rpm change can affect the recoil pattern
yeah, i usually hold back and manage exposure . not running past spawns to melt npcs from behind like i watched in some agents tidal youtube upload 
for this reason i tend to run measured on my secondary
yeah all in the name of consistency
honestly buy the exotic blueprint and roll the elmos for dmg to out of cover and you will see a huge diffrence
does the Supportive passive season mod double dip when healing your shield with artificer hive? because it's outgoing and incoming?
Thanks brotha I'll do that
Does streamline work while skills are active but not on a cd yet? There is a limited subset of skills it can work with, but I'd love to know my options better.
Yessir
Silly me, instantly forgot literal skill description.
It's not on in-game talent it's kind of dumb.
Best marksman to use in pve?
White Death. Can't get that, next best would be Model 700 or SR-1
Make sure it has determined talent on it or DTTOC
Because marksmans are useless if not paired with Chainkiller chest with perfect headhunter + determined talent MMRs
That's why the overwhelming meta weapons are SMG/AR/LMG
I mean. Mmr is possible to use withoit determined, old school style. But oncd you will try determined you will never look back.
Never once have I seen a crit marksman build with killer or a status effect sniper build. Only determined + Chainkiller. Additionally, @peak cloud , you're right but be honest. It's not efficient. Why recommend inefficient builds? Only makes the game harder. The only viable marksman build is a determined PHH build. Once you try it, you're right. Hard to go back
I agreed with you by implying mmr without determined is outdated.
I do have a dread edict aces and eights build that was viable a few seasons ago, but that's +8 months old now. Determined will have room cleared 3x before any other MMR build without determined + PHH clears the room
Oh, is determined refreshing itself again?
Has been
Hasn't changed for a good +2y now
I gave up trusting that talent.
I remember aces and eights clearing the raid looong time ago that was a fun and it was one of my fastest times. Haha
it works, it’s just… eh.
Normal Determined reprocs itself. Perfect determined does not
I've seen videos on that set back then. It looked super viable. Now it's just... Pathetic
I remember. It’s just body shot city. Effective but.. it gets old.
This whole game is old and we've been replaying the same content for 7 years
using the same old builds with the same old gear
Dude back then I used aces and eights from the tarmac all the way to razor and yeah now it’s complete garbo love this game and the utility it provides with build diversity but god**** it if we find something fun lol
I imagine only onr to run the old school mmr builds would be some kind of a speedrunner. But with the power creep I bet they do not even meed to use a TAC anymore...
You’re right, I’m masochistic. I enjoy the extra effort most of the time.
I remember tips TAC fun. One shot destroyed chunga's helmet, second finished said chunga and set you back to max hh stack. Good times.
Felt that 😂 we seriously need a rebalance of old Gearsets being buffed. TP, Sys Corr for pvp, hell even Rigger and Ortiz needs buffs
Aces needs a serious buff to work with rifles now too. The damage is highly underwhelming EVEN WITH ravenous
Rigger isn’t top but the backpack does offer interesting choices. While you’re not gonna clear a room like a mad man, you can sneak in some unexpected gains.
No one uses them and it’s sad like I’d love to use it but it’s not viable I don’t think devs test thier nerfs to see what viability the build has lost or how to utilize they are too worried about a bug or exploit before anything and rush the window of testing. Kind of sad really
little stuff like that helps keep me engaged.
Sadly, build diversity is fully dead with the new "content" we've been getting. Everything favors only the highest damage output. It's why majority community members here only recommend Striker/OD/Hotshot. It's what works, what is efficient, and saves everyone time. This game demands a ton of time. Why waste it?
They killed skill builds entirely then gave us refactor. I mean, seriously? 🤦♀️
Adding hunters to master missions I think was a huge mistake.
I think not fixing existing Gearsets to be on par with other builds in terms of uses was the mistake. Specialist revamps were promised years ago. DLC is out now, why not start that?
Hunters are fine to add sure but why lessen the utility to kill them to a mere 3 builds it makes no literal sense
if hunters didn’t completely lock out skill builds, I’d be for them.
Technician with a hive goes hard with that faraday cage talent
Right, until they hack your hive.
That's why you bust the hive and OC
Love those gloves
Only viable skill builds is literally a healer or crowd control with OC
Both builds taking BTSU
Btsu are the only exotic you need for skill viability imo
It’s been that way for years
I have no troubles fighting hunters or being Disrupted by them bc I prepare in advance for them. I run tech builds bc of this
People underestimate heavily how useful Tech + Hives are with the faraday cage talent
It even works on a striker build. Just drop your reviver hive ahead of you, charge where the hunter spawns (CD and hunter puzzles and missions and summit). By the time they spawn, you're within range of your hive. Disrupt immune. Skills work perfectly fine
I second this. Wish they added more stuff like that to the game in different ways. This game has too much potential tbf
I use this method to clear floor 100 summit all the time solo
Yep I used it to clear the masks in dc and Brooklyn
Ditch your shield for a chem riot foam and bam. Both hunters are immobile and glued. You'll have max Elmo's stacks by the time the first is dead. Second will be shocked. You'll have max striker stacks. Boom, floor 100 complete. Less than 2m
With hotshot, if you do it just right, you can 1 tap both hunters instantly
RF is downright dirty sometimes I feel like the hunters become immune a second time I swear I hit em with it again and they like dodge out of it now.
There's a small cooldown window. I've found it to be about 2-5 seconds. Differing results each time
Elmo's shock is the same
You could go the extreme and take iron lung. Results will be the same, they're just not immobilized when on fire unlike shock + foam
What are some of the good primaries*?
Which weapon type are you looking into?
That puts you in the overwhelming majority of AR, LMG, SMG. I'll give you my list of go to's for each Category weapon
AR:
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Caretaker (Named G36C with Perf. Killer. Obtained by getting shepherd rank 7-8. Answer backup calls, get endorsed by just helping)
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Lexington (veteran time-limited reward, not a lot have it)
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Famas (basic high end AR. Easy to get. Make sure it drops with damage to targets out of cover or with Killer talent)
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St. Elmo's Engine (exotic weapon. Easily obtainable. Target loot AR's in Countdown on Challenging diff. Matchmake)
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Eagle Bearer [exotic] (Dark Hours raid exclusive, get it by having a boss drop it [1% chance per first run of the week] or 10% chance per crate open)
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Chameleon [exotic] [useful on some builds. Weak accuracy at range but def good up close] (same farming method as St Elmo's)
SMG's:
- SMG-9 (high end. Target loot SMG's. Same farming method as Elmo's and Chameleon)
-Lady Death (exotic weapon. Same farming method as Elmo's and Chameleon. Just target loot SMG's)
-Ouroboros (exotic weapon. Paradise Lost: Incursion exclusive. Drop chance 1% per boss, 10% from the crate. There's better options than this for damage. But this is the best weapon for fire rate and handling)
-Chatterbox (exotic. There's a quest for building it, super easy. Def YT it)
LMG's:
-Pestilence (broken ASF, exotic weapon. Can be farmed in DZ and I believe in countdown. Also can be pulled from exo caches. Countdown vendor sells them)
-Iron Lung (exotic. Same farming method as Elmo's. Target loot LMG. Drops from exo caches, too)
-L86A1 (high end LMG. Target loot LMG's)
-RPK (high end LMG. Target loot LMG's)
Woah just uh
I think my book is complete 🤣
Give me a moment to go thru it.
Btw if I have skins for Lexington hypothetically should I have it?
If you don't have the gun itself, no
I should peep my inventory.
I guess ouroboros still holds itself up
Btw the boss drop 1% only one time per week?
1% per boss. There's 3 of them. Wright and the lovebirds. 10% from the crate pull
Ouro is okay, but Dark Winter is better
So hypothetically I could grind the bosses for that 1% drop over and over?
ah, just still have it from previous times.
Correct. Or use 4 different characters and clear it once on each for a higher chance
Perfect Killer is buffed to 90% rewarded CHD on a Crit Hit kill
Oh btw do my characters share storage then.
It's the best talent in the game rn
They do, yes. Stash space is shared
In the pinned messages of this channel, there's an entire spreadsheet for this game. It has good builds within it and information on everything there is about this game. Highly recommend giving it a look
can someone help me make a great pve build
You could use striker build from spreadsheet in hub
just a quick question, in the tinkering station can i change a talent on a gun and replace a stat from the libaray?
or can u just do one or the other?
One or the other
oh so u can just tinker 1 thing on an item?
Does holding the TDI "Kard" Custom even do anything if you're already at skill tier 6 without it?
no, but if you have Future Perfect on you can trigger overcharge if you get a kill with it
just, ah, good luck doing so with Skill Tier 6 weapon damage
Yes, once you changed one attribute or the talent on a weapon or gear, you can only increase the attributes it has afterwards
has Hunter's Fury change at all? are the chest/back not worth using still?
You don't use them still
if i have a lexington, is it better to use over the elmo for dps?
so whats good about the catalyst exactly, is it for hybrid status builds?
Well fun fact, it's currently broken. https://trello.com/c/oQ1ad3hT
lol
Otherwise it might just edge out some builds but it's probably gonna be a funky exotic that might see use or not. Kinda hard to tell in it's current state.
fair enough, it didnt get PTS testing?
also whats with all the increased threat stuff
attempt to make tanks useful id imagine
why they didnt just bake it into them directly idk
it should be a shield attribute or skill mod
also tank builds are great if you use them right
i cant think of a situation outside IH where id rather have a tank than dps or EP
4 shotgun tanks on legendary is funny af
incompetence
just ups the scaling for nothing
trust me its happened to me before
like if the situation is at a point where me being a bullet sponge is the only reason my team hasnt wiped im gone already
right but you cant say those sitations dont exist when you actively ditch them
What are generally good specializations for pve content?
depends on your build
elmo or lexington?
Striker gesr
Gunner
Or well depends on what actually, just our of curiosity
Gunner or Firewall
depends on content tho
Mostly messing around, later maybe raids, countdown and possibly legendary missions (even though I suck at them)
gunner is the most used I'd say
even in leg, gunner is what you see a lot because of the ammo pouch, AoK and ammo refill
@subtle bluff imma need your Nego setup. I have a friend trying to get into it cause of the free set from the seasonal cache.
pretty please :3
Okay, FI BTSU Datagloves restorer hive build. Which FI pieces should i use and what should the 6th piece be?
mask,chest,hoster,knees.
the setup for the backpack
you can use anything you want tbh. Chem for extra heals if need be. The new smart cover is a nice add on for extra DTTOOC.
But with The Setup, i should probably put Scorpio as my primary weapon?
Personally I use scorpio + lefty
I'm too daft to use grenades properly so I'll probably put something else instead of Lefty lol
nahh flame nade and flash bang are massive so its hard to miss. you only really need to throw it on something when it needs to die now
Ok ok I'll give it a try
not sure about Sharpshooter on a healer build tho lol
Survivalist for the incendiary makes more sense imo
true true but you have so much healing as FI it doesnt matter that much. Plus spy drone has its moments.
Wait, the tactician drone marking enemies, does that count as pulsed?
yes
Okay I'll tell my friends to put Flatline on their non-exotic guns lol
Or grab Kingbreaker
Flatline increases damage against pulsed enemies, Kingbreaker has perfect Flatline
I mean I know that. I just dont know if its better to run that over strained, optimistic, ect.
but I do know that if somebody is running HB they will be eating good if they dont run the laser pointer.
Hmmm tier 3+ tac drone applies flatline to all weapons firing at the targets it pulses, according to the wiki
a debuff called Weakness Exploit
hmmm
Yeah I'm definitely going with sharpshooter on that build lolol
only at overcharge
This is part of over charge.
Anything pulsed will get the flatline buff tho.
Okay wiki lists it at tier 3 so thanks for the hint
Weakness exploit via an overcharged pulse is 15% amp damage to anything pulsed while OC is active.
Okay, then i think I'll use a sidearm with future perfect to get some overcharge in once in a while
I would say keeping a gun out and pew pewing vs trying to swap get a kill and then swap back for a short OC might have better overall results.
Most sources are 15 seconds but I'd check for whatever you are using to get it.
I mean if you are doing a FI healer you will have BTSU for OC and it's global too.
Ah
So everyones skills get put on to OC for 15 seconds. It's really powerful and I'd suggest being a person who uses it in fights to give the advantage vs the one who uses it after fights to take revive hives off cool down.
btw after you pop your hive for btsu drop it and pick it up to get the skill haste boost for it to get a 10 second charge.
With popping you mean dismantling?
yes
uhgggg almost perfect chameleon
You break your hive to active BTSUs OC talent.
Eh swap speed isn't good at all
Go for something like DTTOOC instead
ik, if it was anything else it would be perfect
Are you in hyena drugs? 💀
i'm trying to get crit chance, i'm like, lvl 150 shd, barely got any
dttooc is still best anyways
plz define dttooc
out of cover damage
oh okay
my stats are just not ideal, idk what to go for, barely do any damage on countdown and can't do heroic
like, challenging is too easy to kill and heroic i can barely do damage
need to see the rest of your build
build?
that walker harris needs to go
only in high level content^
Replace striker chest with Ceska and Holster with Striker holster
k thanks imma get it
Striker chest is only useful in things like Incursion and Raids
and 🦵
Eh?
and leg, yes
Oh legendary 
rookie
what's wrong with coyote
Nothing
nothing
That's one of the few things you did correctly
she's a bad character
manny too
Kelso really just had to go
Yeah he's always debriefing with schaeffer, doesn't he have anything better to do?
yap for your entire journey
is this good or should i replace the Ouroboros with the St elmos engine? ofc if i did use the Ouroboros would need a carry through PL as im starting new
If you are new I would not aim for this particular setup then.
not new just starting new from a new character as i sold my old Ubi account
What is the standard dummy for the dps measurement? Invulnerable elite?
Putting the numbers you hit for in the calc pinned in this channel.
Oh. Fair.
Just shoot armor and use those crit and non crit numbers.
yeah, basically do not use the dps tracker in game
I mean if that's the case the choices you've made and are doing are preference anyway so just continue on with that for the weapon.
tru
What build should i run as a new player? I just hit 40, i have strikers because i found youtube videos mentioning it. Only problem im running into is most of the guns mentioned are exotics that im not able to get. Do i just run high-end guns instead?
Never ever trust YT builds.
Look at the 📌 Spreadsheet
there's some builds that are a must have:
hotshot, nego, OD, HF/HHF
Highend works
Pretty much every ar smg and lmgs can work with it
returning player here, any new fun builds or is it still strikers?
mostly strikers
the Imminence Armaments i'm having fun with pistol build wise (> <)
OD is fun.
oh yeah, a season or 2 ago they reworked some gears and weapons
like what anything good?
Negotiator's Dilema backpack got increased to 112%, thin OD got some buff as well?
OD chest went from like 30 to 50% amp
There’s a lot of good things but nothing crazy has changed.
so pretty much a lot is viable but the best is still the best
pretty much, hotshot 1 shot builds, strikers, future initiative healer
welcome back by the way
ty ty
hows the backfire? any new builds that are good
take it brooklyn brought you back?
kinda haven't bought it yet but
mine still sits in the stash but i hear having armor on kill or some bonus armor staves off the bleeding of backfire
this season if you've played Div 1 a lot of the nostolgia of it hits hard
the modifiers brought in the Firearms/Stamina and Electronics and buffs us in different ways
like the firearms allows us to go past our 60% CHC barrier and i think people say 99.x% is possible
I've always loved the premise of it but it was just never worth using. Yeah how do I get those modifiers and stuff?
in your inventory you should see something between your Spec weapon and to the right the modifers which you have to activate forget what's right of that honestly
then you do the journey things to unlock more active and passive modifiers
so much easier this season
Bro why your profile says that you are suspected to be part of a cyberterrorism organization? 💀
No.
I dislike it just because I just can’t be bothered to remember to make cover also IMO at higher end context and gameplay I think taking cover can be trap.
In Div2 builds a big part of your builds power comes from talents and keeping the uptime on the talent will make it more powerful. Umbra if you can keep it up it’s great but it’s a lot more in and out of cover where other builds can just keep shooting.
end rant
true, but big number and fun
i saw widz video where he did 3 umbra, ninja backpack, 1 fenris and 1 walker and harris with huntsman ar, i tried it but not with the fenris and walker and harris, but that thing screams
i think i might've had the stupidest idea yet
though, now i want to see 3 umbra and 2 strikers and see what that rof is on that thing 🤔
hear me out:
system corruption full yellow with skill damage
mortar and fire sticky
strategic alignment backpack and empress/wyvern chest with kinetic impulse
think about it: you pop a kit and people can't see your name, giving you enough time to blast them with a sticky or a mortar
then a player playing Final Measure shoots a smart cover close enough to your mortar and poof goes your mortar 😹
i have yet to see anyone using smart cover
or measured assembly for that matter
speacking of which, you just gave me another idea: final measure mortar
this might be the stupidest yet
so how do I find out my actual crit chance?
Inventory > Stats
mine just says 66 no matter what
check your modifiers
Big number
@wide sundial yes, that's a healing chem launcher shot (> <)
What drugs are you on and WHERE can I get them?
meh RPM is only so good.
oh i know, but didn't think how much that rpm would go up with the famas and perfect frenzy
That is the most useless idea I've ever heard using sys corr like that. You disgust me. I almost wanna scrap my sys Corr builds now after reading that
so where tf have I been to where you can heal the enemy for -50m wtf
That broke my heart 😭😭😭
must be what the charging hyenas use?
Only buffing RPM goes so far.
Woohoo! Diminishing returns!
Unhealth care at it's finest.
lmao
How the health system works in the US:
the healing of death and despair
you just had to say big numbers didn't you?
This is also pre Frenzy buff.
I thought hotshot was big number 😭
so during the 1 year I was gone the game is completely broken ok sure why not
pretty much, and you missed out on the april fools event XD
The game is still broken wdym 
did that say uh 490m
I mean it's the biggest but in this setting it is
Wait until you see the crit damage cap DJ Tickle hit. 1 billion damage
Hold my cup
in pts when they were letting us test Hotshot you could stack the damage up so high you could run around with say an AR and produce the maximum damage with each bullet, was hilarious
eh there was the fire sticky and I think it was a bug with something where you could hit for almost a bil with a sniper a year ago but
I was talking about the overwhelming bugs still in the game that's lasted years now, still unfixed
is PvP affected badly?
nods my favorite is the fragile armor
Pvp is basically dead. Either cheaters or dead. No in-between
Oh you mean basically all the directives now? 🤣
isn't hte in between leveling from 1-39 in dz? (> <)
ah I was looking forward to DZ pvp guess not anymore
yeah, hear people ask about trying to turn them off when it's not available
DZ pvp is cheater galore. Or mostly empty. I got ravvy to drop the other day and bighorn today to drop
Next up on my list is now EB. I've been farming 2 years for these weapons just to say I've gotten them to drop
I remember when we had to raids like big boys
how I got both of mine
Raids still exist, only with GC rock
my second account i managed to get a big horn through the stretch goals thing, was hoping to get regulus honestly
They do it btw in IH a lot
I got all my exclusives that way
Reg is nice but takes skill to use. I'm just not a fan of it besides DH 1 shot buddy Lucy
It's scummy in pvp as a crit setup as well
https://youtu.be/B3wKYsanYRw? skip to 40 if you want the funny part. 800m armor gone
just want it for collection really 
Armor went 👋
At the range we could max out 1bill
New to the game, any tips for my build?
Gib your Nego set :3
Yeah, a few: Fox's Prayer kneepads, Grupo holster, Backpack talent to Vigilance, Chest talent to Obliterate or Unbreakable. Crit Chance as close to 60 as possible (55% is ok,) and stack on crit damage after that. All attributes crit chance and crit damage.
4pc nego, Ceska chest obl and exo gloves, gunner and bluescreen
Exodus?
yup
havent used it tbh. whats good about them?
just allows me to stay in the fight.
I could do more dmg but since most of my leggo is me doing most of the unhealthing I need it
Another Free one shot protection w/free full regen
so your armor pops smoke drops they lose agrro?
oh its free full regen? Nice.
and if stop for a regen or swap to pistol full heal.
why pistol?
Super clutch by far the best exotic that's come out in the last few seasons
DUnno it works. lol
ill have to test it out some. Ive just stashed them tbh
thanks for the info on it

tbh I only use the build on 4man heroic or up. If things don't have enough HP doens't feel as good to me
Less build advice, more general advice, but I don't see a channel for that 😅😂
Currently making a sniper build, enjoying the playstyle. Anyone got recommendations/ where can I find the hotshot set 😂
havent been on today but you can check targeted loot and see what mission or area is targeted hotshot, you can also do summit with hotshot targeted or challenging/heroic countdown
That's valid. If think one of the dark zones had hotshot, but I was looking for alternatives. Still low watch level, so I've been avoiding it for now 🤷♂️😂
Was looking for alternatives, so thanks for filling me in!
also you need to chainkiller chest piece and The Gift or Airaldi or habsburg vigilance backpack
2nd w&h piece should be better
It isn't.
it is. i play 2 piece wh all the time. got hands on the gift bp through the project. crafted 140 pieces of that crap only to get disapointed. completely overrated
The Gift isn't give you anymore dmg vs the non-prefect
i know, but 2 piece wh give more dmg than 1 piece wh and the gift
And this is giving Walker better stats and more HSD modj
2pc walk can get close but DTA doesn't scale well a lot of the time since it's % dmg only cover the amount of armor a target has.
wtf you talking about? i didn't even said the gift gives more dmg than non perfect version
.... One min
You want me to use Gift instead of walkers?
BTW Gift vs non.
You're debating that 2pc walker is better than those options mentioned?
Taking more headshot damage or weapon damage using airaldi backpack or the gift is more powerful than w&h 2 piece i think
it's more reliable dmg. 5% DTA is only good for target with armor then it only apply it's 5% to total armor left.
Your HSD is so much already with MMR more WD is better at this point. 2pc Walk can out dmg HSD stats but that depends on the target you're shooting
If you're above the 25mill that'll 1shot most ads out there.
So what’s the deal with system corruption and how can I utilize it properly
It's built for PvP but even currently it's underpeforms vs a lot of the builds these days.
I see. I have a mean bighorn might try it.
With hsd ofcourse 🙂
System corruption isn't worth it. There's a huge reason why you'll never see it being used by other players In the dz
Anyone find any good builds for overlord yet?
No reason to use it
It's also not worth it 🤣
hsd isn't really the bottleneck. most of the time it's weapon damage. the real thing that will either make or break your sniper build is damage to helmets, which isn't increased at all by headshot damage or damage to armor. your real choices are dttooc, dth or weapon damage, and it's easiest to get more weapon damage
just fyi
so that's why we recommend airaldi or 2p habs (IF you can get it)
🤣 what’s so funny over there noob enough for the dz am I? lol
You didn't give context soo..
Well your answer to my question is all that mattered so context is irrelevant at this point sooo…..
of course. i would prefer 2 pieces of habsburg, but good luck with that
For pvp? I have 3 focused around it
please god, give me vigilance 🤣
It's only good in face fights tbh even then its niche. I'm a heavy sys Corr user and even I agree with others it's too niche and underwhelming
I hate these claims. You don't need half of what people say with these HH builds and most of them are functionally the same btw.
i blame content creators Souless13
I blame people thinking bigger numbers numbers means better builds. Cause if those numbers aren't big enough to move you up to shooting a new enemy in whatever scaling and diff you don't have a better build it's functionally the same.
Here come Mr chow with his gif of 50 million Chem launcher shot
I should make a gif of one with even higher damage just to show him up.
Ah no gifs? Was going to post the Shia Just Do It!
What's the best for the pakhan, ROF or DTA? I'm already bursting the CHC cap by 10% ish if I put chc on it.
what the build?
Both grupo obliterate stiker and pesty high end
It's still CHC jsut use modifiers you can go over cap
That mean your build has CHC in it
SMG has the most CHC already on it and I don't hit cap with either of those builds.
After CHC it's RoF for that
Is this a lucky pull from exotic cache?
I think it might work well cause I’m running striker
Yea you should just barely touch cap with CHC on ceska.
HF is better with it. It's not the greatest of SMG MPX base got hit hard awhile ago.
anyone got a backfire with crusader shield build?
Chem launcher wars needs to become a thing.
What is HF?
Hunter fury
Ohh I have a hunter build, dangg
What other fun should I run I have the Militsry P416 and and some random dmrs
Gun*
No. Backfire is really good on DPS once he's fully stack but to get there is pain. SMG9 will output faster DPS yes peak quicker but make quick work.
should pint mrchow with that XD
Oh i see why, I'm running coyotes on both builds.
meta healer build 😎
Nah i think that wont applies to the base cap, that chc will just go waste.
What the... orange locakdeck? 
Ultimate harmacist
are you scared now? 😹
Aurora gonna start shouting Mortar Supremacy every time i log now 
That just sounds stupid

Mortar Supremacy
but yeah, recent change
So this is what i have now.... 55 CHC 166 CHD. i think i'll stick with ROF cuz i want to exp it, and the mods wont be there forever...
Whats a good build for catalyst? (I know its bugged atm)
ongoing directive maybe?
Okay just got to level 40, are there any easy to obtain solo builds where one can also use the striker drone?
In the Pinned messages
which one of the pinned messages?
The Gear spreadsheet
OH I want you wanted builds. To grind for builds. Target loot in Countdown and Summit.
Sorry was mobile didn't read that well.
yee, i just don't what solo build to go with XD
but thanks!
Get strikers just to have and to grind with in CD then grab Ceska for the Chest and library.
strikers? also how do i pick what loot i want to have dropped at the summit?
when you're in the menu for either you can target loot. Look on the bot left
as in the lobby for either?
sorry I'm still not done with this guide but there
Should i go for the Rigger built if i wanna use the Striker Drone?
hi
is there a way to still get the Lexington ?
guys whats the best dps build? i found the one with purist and striker set , and another with catalyst and backfire , there are better builds ? whats the best?
You're here too asking... It depends on the content.
Catalyst is bugged atm so none and backfire doesn't work with the whole time.
I've already answer the best thing.
Striker is best set for DPS. It's comes down to the players and stacks management.
the thing that im not reaching that dps its corroding me
and im not understading what im doing wrong
You have DTTooC on the it right?
If you're trying to reach 1mill bullet it probably has to do with modifiers I also do have Coyotes on that you didn't
what modifiers?
Oh ya it's modifiers I hit 5 on it here that's when it pops it over a 1m
I already showed you...
what u use?
yeah that one i use too , i mean , there are passive i need to put?
ty
The build 2 weeks in
How much dmg should I reach to be considered a good dps build ?
I mean.. it's fixed number it's all math.
Gameplay matters.
10-15mill is a good number.
and you cannot use the range DPS counter that thing doesn't work correctly
If i dont use that how i test dps?
Per shot?
There's a spreadsheet in the Pinned Messages
Oh ty
idk if i am recalling it incorrectly but wasnt there some gear talent or bonus where you get a headshot kill and the next shot counts as headshot even if u miss the head?
Weapon talent
ahh i see. which one?
Forgot I just saw it though
thanks got it. determined
How good is eagle bearer for PvE Striker build?
decent
Is it possible to get 100% hazpro on strikers
St. Elmo or Police M4 better?
St. Elmo, shock ammo can save you sometimes
And striker is the strongest pve build right now?
yep
But it's kinda squishy right? Is there a build that has kinda the same output but it's more tankier?
If there was wouldn’t that be the meta?
Anyways HB or Hunter maybe what you’re looking for.
yes, try this
Can I see some ninja bike builds??
Are turmoil knees any good for a solo pve striker build?
What brand would you go for chest?
everything is good in pve as long as you have fun playing
NBB (Ninja Bike Backpack) is a noob trap. It will always nerf or limit your builds max potential
Omg fire starter!? Can I see whatcha did!? I want to run fire starter too. Do you have hazard protection?