td2-build-advice

[jaunty igloo]

more dmg = clear faster

[strong cave]

hotshot build will get you like 20 in an hour if you chain CP's together

[tulip charm]

That works too

I use hff tho or 1886

[strong cave]

wait until re-animated to farm those. pistol builds with determined are guaranteed one shot headshot kills. its what i did when speedrunning shd 1000 and farming for sys corr

[onyx sage]

head funter furry?

[tulip charm]

Yeah its a build I copied from dien.aka.kim

Goated guy

[onyx sage]

never heard of em

[tulip charm]

You should probably follow him and you could become slightly above average player

[onyx sage]

no thanks, i like my ninjabike too much

[tulip charm]

Ninjabike crutcher

Smh

[hearty owl]

Untrue

[pale solar]

Should I just go away from st elmos and run caretaker?

Striker build btw

[tulip charm]

Upto you

[thorny solstice]

Try both and you get your answer.
There are many variables.
Caretakers talent is "on kill". Its great for solo-duo heroic.
Im running Huntsman now, once u get used to that, its awesome.

[pale solar]

I have been using both I was just searching for some other opinions

[subtle bluff]

I'll put it this way. Elmo is reliable and caretaker is only good if you're killing a lot and have good CHC

[honest moss]

Exuro bag vs oppertunistic on exuro support build, i am under the impression the bag buff applies to the team.

Not using chest, using overwatch because i also have a smart cover on

[young notch]

im running an umbra lmg build atm, would it be better to have frenzy or overwhelm?

[honest moss]

I think frenzy in that scenario

[subtle bluff]

What is overwhelm again?

[young notch]

do you think there is a better perk to run?

its like 10% dmg on suppression

up to i think 40 or 50

[subtle bluff]

Suppression things are bad. Worse trying to keep them.

[honest moss]

Strained probs? Idk, most AR stuff is good on lmgs too

[young notch]

im shooting my lmg full to empty within like 4 seconds ngl

ill play with it tho

[solar berry]

overwhelming is more like underwhelming xD

[zenith plover]

But i cant get that airaldi backpack, can i see what hotshot build u have? Cause i wanna get to that 1k shd level

[lofty frigate]

anyone know ongoing directive build include 2~3 stamina backfire build?

i dont want 6 fire power

[subtle bluff]

OD build is pretty standard.

[cerulean smelt]

stamina, electroncis and fire power is just this seasons modifiers at work

[lofty frigate]

im already have it,but i want higher hazard protection

[subtle bluff]

4pc OD w/Chest. Free BP slot that normally uses Wicked talent.

You don't need it.. IMO not worth you can use BF without hazpro

How are you proc'ing OD on this build?

[cerulean smelt]

hive maybe?

or the occasional successful riot foam nade?

[solar berry]

banshee pulse is amazing in OD. if have gunner spec. but you do rn

[lofty frigate]

i used riot poam with start it

[zenith plover]

What specialization should i use for the hotshot build?

[lofty frigate]

Banshee pulse is so good skill, but I think the shield is better in case of an emergency

[solar berry]

sharpshooter

tbh, havent used a shield for 6 months now lol

[cerulean smelt]

i did like seeing an OC Banshee pulse. that radius!

[zenith plover]

So thats a 4 pc hotshot except for chest which is a chainkiller and an airaldi backpack, and all should be weapon damage and headshot damage right?

[solar sable]

and weapon handling

[solar berry]

fast cooldown and can help to get out of sticky situations rq

[solar berry]

^ @zenith plover

[zenith plover]

Weap handling for the weapon and backpack i assume?

[solar sable]

chest and bag

[cerulean smelt]

weapon handling on chainkiller and backpack

[solar sable]

you're slow

[zenith plover]

Last question is is it worth it to invest on this set?

[solar sable]

Hell yes

[subtle bluff]

most of have the build saved

[zenith plover]

Alright because im already on the brink of giviing up because of the backpack and just thought of running my non optimized striker build to run open world and shd level farming, targeted airaldi as my loot for 3 days and hevent gotten any luck on the backpack😔

[subtle bluff]

Don't sweat it any HSD bp will work too

The most important thing is just Vilg

[cerulean smelt]

Nods start with it having HSD and swap the talent to Vigilence until you get the one with weapon handling and hsd on it and change the talent

16% weapon handling doesn't help it much but it's just that much faster reloading at least

for when you need to

[zenith plover]

So any backpack with weapon damage and headshot damage for now that has vigilance right?

[cerulean smelt]

airialdi would be great i'd say since you're using MMR

[zenith plover]

Im really having a hard time getting headhsot damage and weapon handling in a backpack, been farming 3 days non stop

[cerulean smelt]

even a providence would be the other or "gift" if you got it with hsd on it would be beneficial

[zenith plover]

And im on 140 shd level so i need that extra damage

[solar sable]

shd doesn't matter, you'll get there eventually
the build itself is pretty strong without the shd bonuses

[lofty frigate]

i want habsburg vigilance 😂

[zenith plover]

Alright so maybe my plan for now is ill try to get providence and try my luck right now

[cerulean smelt]

i'd welcome that gift on my pistol build (> <)

[zenith plover]

Whts the talent on this one?

[lofty frigate]

Perfect vigilance

[solar sable]

Perfect Vigilance

one second less than normal vigilance
it ain't that great

[zenith plover]

So ill try my luck with providence today and see

[cerulean smelt]

think a shorter duration of cooldown by 1 second

normal is like 4 second perfect is 3 second

[solar sable]

such a buff!

[zenith plover]

But at least the only thing that i need to worry about is the attributes

[cerulean smelt]

and new players are like "need gift because of this youtube video!"

[zenith plover]

Let me try my luck with providence and maybe ill get what i need

[onyx sage]

it's 25% on top of 25%!!! so strong!!!

[zenith plover]

Any recos for a marksman rifle to start with?

Would a max rolled white death work?

[solar sable]

yes (sorry caps)

[cerulean smelt]

white death it hink has highest hsd

[lofty frigate]

White death is more strong any sr

[zenith plover]

I got a whit death that has max weapon damage and max headshot damage

[cerulean smelt]

i jumped to what you probably can't get is a Handbasket MMR that thing is funXD

[solar sable]

does it have dtoc or determined or both on it?

[cerulean smelt]

was about to say if the 3rd is dtooc or it has determined on it you're set XD

[zenith plover]

Since its a named weapon can i recalibrate the talent on this one??

I think it has perfect unbreakable

[solar sable]

yes, it's one of the few named weapons that have an open talent slot

[solar sable]

unbreakable is for vests lol

[cerulean smelt]

if it was perfect anything you wouldn't be able to change the talent

[zenith plover]

I think mine has critical damage attribute

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, if you got crit damage and some other talent not determined will be rough, but might be good until you get it with a determined talent or dtooc for 3rd attribute

[solar sable]

it'll work without dtoc, but it's something you really want

[zenith plover]

Im thinking of placeholder pieces for now anyways im just running challenging with 4 deirectives so that nets me 400k per control point

[solar sable]

solid
heroic 5D gives 810k per clear

[zenith plover]

Other than white death what other mmrs would u guys suggest?

[cerulean smelt]

think m700 was another choice and nemesis if you can get used to the holding down to charge bit

[zenith plover]

I need to practice on this build first

Lets me check what mmrs do i have and post it here

[solar sable]

any model 700 or SR-1 (this one is a little nerfed but still does the work)

[zenith plover]

Alright got it

[cerulean smelt]

i use a handbasket, but i think i probably had to farm it for the dtooc or determined on it

[zenith plover]

I think i have a few model 700s laying around ill just check the talents and attribs on those

[solar sable]

i forget, is handbasket in the general loot pool?

[cerulean smelt]

nope, was a goblin thing

[solar sable]

why msv why

ubi, silly me

[zenith plover]

Just got my hands on a new rig last feb and just downloaded the division 2 last march but stopped since i do t have any friends playing but got back after a month and a half since i disscovered the community and u guys are very welcoming to noobs like me thank you guys

[cerulean smelt]

i know right? i want to get a ceska turmoil with HSD and WH on it!

[shy willow]

The only Handbasket I have has the worst rolls I've ever seen

[modern night]

Same

I didn’t even take it out the stash I felt disgusted by the stat rolls

[bronze hound]

@cerulean smelt

[cerulean smelt]

yeah i need determined to do any "sniping"

[bronze hound]

skill issue

the only thing im determined to do is not use that waste of a talent

[cerulean smelt]

like i said in general i can have a headshot lined up they bob or weave last second and i shoot air

[cerulean smelt]

probably right though. skill wise i just watch them bob and weave too much and hope they calm down XD

[bronze hound]

its a semi-auto if you miss just shoot again

not like you run out of ammo

[cerulean smelt]

that's how many times i miss XD

[cerulean smelt]

wanna know what's funny? i use this and do just fine, explain that pleas? XD

[bronze hound]

skill issue

also we just confirmed i do like twice as much as you do

[bronze hound]

i dont

[charred eagle]

For the builds that are one shot like hotshot, hunters fury with 1886… are any of these really viable for group play because the xp event is droppin soon

[hasty sluice]

What are the small cores?

[peak meadow]

Explosive skill haste

[hasty sluice]

thought so. thanks. Made your other build. trying to get the hang of it. switching to kard when going to overcharge is abit wacky

also whats up with the firesticky?

[peak meadow]

Smart Cover

[peak meadow]

This build is out of style

Not for the sake of being too wonky to play but Birdie's just has better bonuses for saving people

[hasty sluice]

ah

[cerulean smelt]

that looks fun

[peak meadow]

Reinforcer Chem Launcher is situationally better, Decoy is always good

Defensive Smart Cover to eat drone spam and stray bullets for a coordinated team is kind of OK

[hasty sluice]

Makes sense

might stick to it just due to that

or use decoy

[peak meadow]

Depends on the map

If I could only pick one, I would choose Chem Launcher

Instant 500K heal for your DPS once he gets revived

[hasty sluice]

thats understandable

all the mods are pfe correct?

[peak meadow]

Yeah but realistically you could get by with one less

[ancient iron]

Thats the striker build u use for wverything?

[hasty sluice]

thats good cause I only have 5 XD

[peak meadow]

Use Everyday Carrier to apply a heal over time for your allies

[hasty sluice]

yep use it with my aegis tank

you use sandman just for the off chance you need it correct?

[peak meadow]

I use it whenever it's convenient

[lofty frigate]

another Variation i loved striker build

[hasty sluice]

steel works gaming

[solar berry]

Bloodsucker is decent on striker if you chain kills

[peak meadow]

Typical carry adventures

[solar berry]

Dien? Is you

[peak meadow]

I could only wish

I supported him while he carried, as usual

[solar berry]

Idk which is you. Discord name ain’t lining up 👀

[peak meadow]

Who knows

[solar berry]

So you have to be stranded then

[peak meadow]

He was, unfortunately, level 7 and on striker

[solar berry]

If an agent left. Their middle background goes away aka blank

[peak meadow]

I convinced him to play Legendary

[solar berry]

Lvl 7 forced into legendary 👀

Bro just got his watch

[peak meadow]

Man was enticed by the sweet promise of loot

[solar berry]

Mmm 🤔

Soft talk your way into him.

“But the loot. Who cares. It’s all about that sweet loot” 🤣

[solar sable]

he is the one named

[hexed steppe]

i would think that too, but patches/specs/names still there. clanless maybe for no banner. just guessing tho

[solar berry]

Could be clanless mmm 🤔

[solar berry]

They will show up even if you view results when leaving mission/group after completion also

But all will be blank set for stats numbers and stuff.

[hexed steppe]

not the extras or name usually, they dont show after disband .. exceptions for agents in teh same safehouse

[solar berry]

Tru tru

[tranquil surge]

What chance to get striker piece set in countdown? or where better farm it?

[zenith plover]

im already being tempted to use this as a placeholder for a hotshot build while im looking for that weapon handling attribute ill just recalibrate the talent to vindictive right? what do you guys think?

[cerulean smelt]

do it, just change the tech support to Vigilence

[subtle bluff]

Ya use it don't sweat at all needing the Weapon Handling

It's a nice to have. Go play the game

[young notch]

im just getting back into the game again, eclipse protocol is is better to run the backpack or creeping death backpack, and ive been running the flame chem launcher and bleed hive, anything better or differnt maybe i should run

[tranquil surge]

what good weapon for noob for striker build?

[hazy steeple]

There's a spreadsheet that's 📌 pinned in this channel, it has the meta Sriker build in it, there's a bunch of options in there.
but overall the trick is to make sure that you have a weapon to stack it up, and one to kill things with.

[solar berry]

The small arrow is stats in your library. It looks like you haven’t been extracting stats yet.

[hazy steeple]

@long aurora Right here, there's a 📌 pinned-message > spreadsheet 2 > builds. Enjoy!

[long aurora]

thanks!

[solar berry]

If you add stats to your library, you can easily reconfigure one of those red/yellow/blue lines to your liking.

But other stats will be fixed aka can’t change to a different stat. But can always optimize it to be a bigger number to maxed bar

[tranquil surge]

ok, what is library?

[solar berry]

Press M and it will be far left box

I’m launching game to post pics for easier explanation

[tranquil surge]

ok thanks

[solar berry]

when viewing your overall build. you press M to open this menu

[tranquil surge]

it's lock

[solar berry]

mmm

[bronze hound]

is there a "best weapon in the game" rn or no

i just unlocked huntsman and it seems kinda mid

what

[cerulean smelt]

saw a widz video he was 3 umbra, 1 fenris and 1 walker and harris with NBB and that thing roars

[bronze hound]

what is nbb

nebotiators bilemma?

[cerulean smelt]

Ninjabag Backpack the forbidden exotic backpack

[bronze hound]

cursed

my build still uses the ouroboros is it worth swapping or nah

[solar berry]

To unlock the Recalibration Station in The Division 2, you need to complete the third mission of the Campus Settlement

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say give it a shot and see how you feel about it in your build

[bronze hound]

okay so no weapons are really broken rn?

[tranquil surge]

am 40lvl, all mission done

[bronze hound]

theres no "meta" per se?

[solar berry]

After that. You should be able to access this

[solar berry]

Campus missions.

[tranquil surge]

i didn't talk with her

[bronze hound]

am i understanding correctly

[cerulean smelt]

i feel there isn't much honestly
caretaker is nice but feels lacking to me
huntman is just something you can kill and get a little bit faster rate of fire but still kind of meh to me

[solar berry]

far top left green building icon. need to complete 3rd mission

[bronze hound]

is it worth swapping my ouro or just keep it on

[tranquil surge]

i find

[bronze hound]

what is this icon

[solar berry]

the catalyst mask stacks/buff meter

[bronze hound]

ty

[bronze hound]

?

[solar sable]

backfire is solid
ouro still hits but the talent doesn't help much now that it got quite nerfed some updates ago

[bronze hound]

how did they nerf the talent

[solar sable]

the weapon

[solar berry]

For what build?

[bronze hound]

striker deeps

[solar berry]

You can ye. But talent isn’t much to work with. But the weapon it self is gud for stack gaining

[bronze hound]

how would the huntsman hold up in comparison

[solar berry]

Huntsman maybe do more dps 🤔

[cerulean smelt]

huntsman is a named famas so i'd imagine it's just probably a bit better and the perfect skill pushes it beyond ouro?

[solar berry]

Since after reload. You gain dmg and rof at max frenzy

[solar berry]

I wish I got it. Just to lazy to do hunters rn lol 😂

[bronze hound]

oh shit i mistook frenzy for measured

[solar berry]

I assume it could be better. But famas did get hit with a reload speed nerf… 🤔

[cerulean smelt]

i tried it in PTS and felt it lacking compared to Sleipnier in rate of fire

[bronze hound]

bruh this group leader chose scavenge skills and its not even working

[cerulean smelt]

current bug with directives atm

[bronze hound]

so why did they choose it

are they a nerd?

im gonna try huntsman

see how it holds up

i hate it

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i'd say it's not for everyone

[bronze hound]

forcing someone to reload from empty is a sin

especially with such a slow reload speed

[solar berry]

The reload speed hurts famas so bad 😔

[young notch]

is scorpio or the blue screen better for eclipse protocol build?

[solar berry]

Make it .5 quicker and it be okish again

[solar berry]

I’d assume Scorpio

[cerulean smelt]

that might explain the NBB with fenris for 30% reload speed on the huntsman?

[solar berry]

Yea. It reloads like a slow LMG for an AR

[bronze hound]

did they change 1 piece fenris?

[solar berry]

Famas don’t weigh much like a LMG. But PvP balancing made famas needed a nerf to its reload speed 😪

[bronze hound]

ah right ninjabike

[solar berry]

Fenris never changed tbh. Maybe the stability got a 20% buff if that.

I forgot. Been to long ago

[bronze hound]

i switched back to ouro and oh my god this is actually usable

[solar berry]

Even if you use +15 mag set of +20 due to -10% reload speed on 20rnd. Still feels hella slow on famas

[bronze hound]

uhhhh

[subtle bluff]

Scorpio for quicker Status Effects and the 9th global amp dmg

[bronze hound]

am i just that good at the game

[solar berry]

I complained about this and people say, reload speed is never an issue for them. 👀

[solar berry]

👀 wtf

[subtle bluff]

Dmg stacking is fun

[solar berry]

50 mil from healer

Healing and dealing

[bronze hound]

how

[buoyant perch]

Chem is coded as a wp with rpm, handling and tiny bit of damage, stack headhunter and you have that

[subtle bluff]

"much to learn, you still have"

Close

[solar berry]

I see that but that’s just wild to see in general

[subtle bluff]

I mean I've done where's messed me up on a speedrun

It was like 60mill HS stick roam chem

actually more I can't remember since we had other buffs going

[solar berry]

👀

Dps the boss with skills time in raids lol

[cerulean smelt]

would be hilarious if you hit a player with that and they flop

[subtle bluff]

I've tried to be Determined with it.

[subtle bluff]

I'd need to find a willing host for that.

[bronze hound]

caretaker makes a good secondary to my ouro actually

unfortunately its crit is too low tho

[cerulean smelt]

you know my experience with G36 i was like "WHY?!?!?!" tried it and i'm like "HOLY!!!!!!!" feels like it shoots like a lexington

[bronze hound]

i never used lexington

i just like ouro because it has hella good burst

[solar berry]

If only I had Lexington

Missed it by 2 days after 😠

[bronze hound]

mine is sitting in my stash i think

its still in my grants lol

so why is it a good weapon exactly

[subtle bluff]

It's top 3 DPS without a talent.

[bronze hound]

wait isnt this broken as shit

[cerulean smelt]

youtubers putting it on a pedestal i'd say

[subtle bluff]

Skills are powerful...

[cerulean smelt]

PTS was 87% perfect and 80% normal

[bronze hound]

does a shield being damaged count as cooldown

[cerulean smelt]

they fixed this when it came to live. deploy shield streamline goes poof

[bronze hound]

oh thank god

[cerulean smelt]

PTS you could shield/turret/drone hive as long as nothing was on cool down it'd stay activated

[bronze hound]

so skills have to be inactive and not on cooldown?

[cerulean smelt]

yeah

[bronze hound]

that is WAY better

[subtle bluff]

They really bad at updating talents wording.

[bronze hound]

btw i heard about some smg with a weapon damage attribute that was a seasonal item? whats up with that

[subtle bluff]

Sorry what?

[bronze hound]

idk thats why i asked

wait it was a revolver my bad

the harvest

[cerulean smelt]

The Harvest?

[bronze hound]

yeah

[bronze hound]

wait hold on

[bronze hound]

so what are the other two

[solar berry]

Shield out cancels out streamline. I tested it myself. Icon don’t pop up, and dps went back to base aka non talent buff.

It’s working as intended

[bronze hound]

youre really late to respond to that lmao

[solar berry]

My fault 😔

[subtle bluff]

Shield Spliter, Elmo

also it's handling is the next best to Elmo

[bronze hound]

oh i thought they were good weapons my bad

[subtle bluff]

?

[young notch]

is refactor any goodas a healer

[subtle bluff]

no

It's biggest pro Healing wise he heals the team without having to need LoS.

[strong cave]

I blacked out so couldn't answer your earlier ping. If you weren't able to find a decent airaldi bag with Vigi, I would've recommended using a Walker bag with Vigi until you could find the right one. It's not nearly as good as an airaldi bag but hey the 2 piece bonus of Walker + Harris is nice. Or you could use the new brand that came out, something Imminence or whatever. Also gives 5% weapon damage. You could go with Providence as a placeholder too, those are also easy to farm. Airaldi is tricky sometimes

[lofty frigate]

i think future initiative better than refactor healer

[strong cave]

Correct

[wary forge]

The new pistol set, the incresead treat affect decoy???!!

[strong cave]

Unsure but I know the pistol damage that Widdz showcased was insane

[wary forge]

Where?

I need a good build for pistol

[strong cave]

HHF - Headhunters fury

[wary forge]

I only have headshot dmg pistol build.. with this new set worth chc chd

[lofty frigate]

refactor is good for sustained recovery, but has poor instantaneous response capability

[strong cave]

Ah yeah CHC/CHD won't really work for pistols. The damage output as opposed to pistol rates of fire won't be viable enough. That's why all are typically built for headshot damage

[hexed steppe]

hhf showcasing new pistol set?

[wary forge]

So how build a headhunter fury with this new set?… Using ninja bike?

[strong cave]

Nah, I recommend HHF over Widdz' build. HHF stacks way more. Widdz' does just raw pistol damage

[hexed steppe]

what are the tops ends

[wary forge]

Wheres this widdz build?

[strong cave]

He had misrolls but in his vid he was hitting for about 11.2m

Wrong reply my bad

Keep in mind he was using determined and HH. Not perfect HH

[subtle bluff]

NBB will always nerf your Dmg.

[young notch]

so refactor skill build doesnt work too well only in a sustain environment?

[strong cave]

^^ this

[strong cave]

Refactor is a joke. Don't use it

Just trust us on this one

[subtle bluff]

Like it's usable but there's better.

[strong cave]

Usable at maybe challenging and below

[hexed steppe]

its works alright. it is a turret drone build, so it is slower. you also trade some damage for the heals... its a good middle ground when you want to have some heals and some damage

[wary forge]

My hhf

How fit the new brand on this without nb?

[subtle bluff]

nah you can use it leggo alright.

[solar berry]

Refractor is a fun build to play with.

FI is still the best overall healer in the game with BTSU gloves

[strong cave]

That will work

[strong cave]

You don't

If you want more survivability, throw a few blues on and run memento

Memento also gives bonus WD. It is the hardest working bp in the game after all

[hexed steppe]

memento beefs that shield too

[subtle bluff]

Um. What are trying to do with Pistol?

[strong cave]

Not just by a blue cores but a yellow too!

💥🔥

[hexed steppe]

and skill health 😉

[strong cave]

Efficiency 😩

[hexed steppe]

aka, shield health

[subtle bluff]

why..

[hexed steppe]

shield tier

[subtle bluff]

I know but

[strong cave]

Hell yeah. I approve

[subtle bluff]

If you're looking for more dmg you're doing it wrong

[strong cave]

Striker

[solar berry]

When someone is rss rich

[subtle bluff]

Firewall and Striker shield yup

[hexed steppe]

on a highend , i see my 9mil car door jump to 12mil on 30 trophy long buff

[strong cave]

All of those resources would 100% go to my sys Corr build

Except I ran outta components doing just that... God the expertise 30 grind on 10 whole pieces is a nightmare

[solar berry]

All those rss. Would boost my expertise levels 👀

[strong cave]

Me who dumped like 30k+ watch points to printer filaments right before update:

[solar berry]

I got extremely bored when I went up 5 expertise lvls

Can’t do it anymore

Regrets it. But gawd dam, how ya do boredom farm 👀

[strong cave]

I got bored the moment I had to restock all of my mats bc I ran outta points forever ago. Didn't feel like running mules. Well, them nerfing the mules lit a fire under my ass 😂 I put off my expertise for nearly a year

Having 14k+ SHD helps my mules case

[solar berry]

Meanwhile me sitting at under 3k

Cuz I play destiny 2

[strong cave]

Yeah you wouldn't benefit that much for mules. I found it's mostly viable around SHD 5k

[strong cave]

[hazy steeple]

as a former Hunter: you have my sympathies.

[solar berry]

What I figured. The mule farm would be hella slow for me

[solar berry]

Hunter main here since D1

But in div1 I was a AB main

[strong cave]

It wouldn't be worth it. I look at the farm in this way: I could be doing it for hours. Is the reward worth time spent? At that SHD level... No.... You're better off working a job at McDonald's. Would reward you for your time. To run a mule you'll only get like ~2k watch points. I can spend 2k and max out my whole resources tab. Those in printer filaments alone will get expensive quickly. If I went from exp 18 to 30 in basically 2.5d, I can't imagine what it'll be for you without the mules

[wary forge]

@strong cave this build?

Cuz it does less damage than headhunter fury ;-;

I was o a xtreme hype about new set

[strong cave]

I chose to neglect expertise and play without it. I'm a pvp Mainer so playing without hinders me since my SHD bracket is all high level players

[solar berry]

It would take maybe couple weeks of straight grinding to max it out. On my end.

[strong cave]

The new set is mediocre at best. Sure you can use Widdz setup as it's an alternate setup. But take into account HHF is amp damage plus the WD on headhunter. His build is straight pistol damage

All I did was give you options

[wary forge]

Tysm

[solar berry]

Tbh. I might be a noob and throw on random pieces of non expertised gear and play countdown.

[strong cave]

I wish the new set would be viable, basically ALL the new sets we've been getting lately

[strong cave]

You're left with no choice tbh

[solar berry]

Farm rss on the side. Dismantle everything as I go. Unless it’s un expertise gear and dono it

[strong cave]

Good luck agent

[strong cave]

Control points are a great way to snag resources daily. Will also give levels. I think doing about 10-20 a day would be worth it

Your SHD will climb, trust

[wary forge]

I was thinking before update do a set with memento and intimidate using liberty.. But as the treat doest affect decoy wont worth it :/

[strong cave]

During reanimated events and XP events I would run 100's per day. Till my eyes bled. Sys Corr and SHD farming was a nightmare

[solar berry]

Mmm 🤔. Time to pull out my side agents and transfer stash over so I can throw all my BP on main agent into stash and don’t have to worry about space for a long time

[subtle bluff]

LOL Liberty

[solar berry]

Free roam isn’t my cup of tea. Me like mission based more

[strong cave]

I mean you can run liberty but it's so bad as a crit setup. Fire rate is god awful since yk, it's a deagle. Didn't the base damage of the deagle get nerfed? Which affects liberty? Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone

[solar berry]

Summit I can handle. Countdown is a loot mayhem. More donos to expertise

[subtle bluff]

Very much so

[strong cave]

Sadly, the most boring methods are the most viable methods

[solar berry]

Sadly ye

[strong cave]

I made it fun by having a buddy join me and we just talk as we farm CPs or I slap on banger music and go crazy

[solar berry]

Imma go countdown route starting tmw after work and dono everything. To speed up the process.

Rest is free rss from dismantling

[strong cave]

With Brooklyn you can make a junk character, boost to 40, slap striker on it and just run CD. Junk everything you see and dono

[solar berry]

Tru tru. My HC is lost in the dust. So no need anymore for it

Free agent space

[strong cave]

Imo they should've kept the watch mules. Boost to 40 won't give the watch points. Doing 30-40 should give the points. But hey they changed it, no point dwelling

[solar berry]

People will find a workaround it

Now there is none. Just how the game is meant to be played

[strong cave]

That's how I felt about my 4th char. My gf and I at the time were playing from level 1. Until she just stopped caring. So I deleted that character and made mules

[solar berry]

My HC agent haven’t been touched in over 6 months. If I really wanted to. I’d just make a new one.

[strong cave]

Yeah I feel bad for the lower SHD playerbase. Expertise needs a heavy nerf for the required mats to dono as well as increase expertise

[solar berry]

I mean. They have so much stuff to do I tho to catch up

[strong cave]

Hardcore agents are nice but I don't see the appeal. If you wanna have a chance at losing loot just go in dz

[solar berry]

They can catch up so much if they play their cards right

[strong cave]

Farm 100 cp's a day would work... Speaking from experience 😭

You'll hit SHD 1k in 10 days doing that. Starting from 0 basically

[solar berry]

I’m finna fill up my BP full from countdown loot. See what I’m missing in expertise lvls first. Target loot. And repeat. Mark it all as junk. Dono to expertise. Dismantle rest and repeat

Dono gives a lot. It’s overlooked

[strong cave]

Yay! Replayable content! 😂 It really does give a ton. I was lazy and never bothered but did when I could

[solar berry]

It’s not hard. Either way it’s just boring to farm farm farm. But you get it done quick if you are not hoarding random stuff

[strong cave]

Just remember it costs about 3k printer filaments to max an item out. There is I think 432 items to expertise. Do the math...

432×3,000 = 1,296,000 printer filaments needed to hit expertise 30 (if my math is right)

[solar berry]

CPs, summit, countdown. Same mission over and over again. It’s all boring. At end of the day

[strong cave]

Very. Very boring. I would go crazy farming CP's, in the 100's range, for days on end. I had to force myself thru it

[solar berry]

I’m 19.5/30

[strong cave]

Okay so you're not too far off. There's hope for you

[solar berry]

I’m close but it’s just few sets. Many named items I missed so do I is impossible. Just rss farm and dunk it in. But that’s overtime. No biggie rn.

Like lex, I missed it. So I have to dono mats to it.

Can’t use it to lvl it up as I play

Most things I have. Other things I don’t

[strong cave]

Casual farming is gonna prevent burnout, I promise you that. Division is a marathon race so pacing is key. If you go balls to the wall at 110% all the time, you'll be burnt out before day 1 even ends

[strong cave]

That sys Corr expertise gonna go crazy 😂 rarest set in the game

Good luck getting those pieces. You'll likely have to dono for that too

[solar berry]

Some gear/brand sets I never used like skill dmg. But I just dono them out the way easily

[strong cave]

When the newer sets dropped I always dono'd them since the caches would drop those sets lmao. Same with shiny monkey when that dropped

[solar berry]

O I know. I have 3k hrs in destiny 2 since launch. I switch back and forth between games a lot overtime.

Surprisingly I never missed a season or major content in both games

[strong cave]

Destiny 2 has even worse grinding than Div 2, my buddy can attest to that. I know Destiny 2 has a way more hardcore playerbase

[hazy steeple]

*had

[strong cave]

But managed to miss Lexington and every other FOMO event

[strong cave]

We could say the same for division 2 as well 😂

[hearty owl]

why is it "had" for Destiny 2? Do you play Rivens?

[solar berry]

Busy life with the work life… but lex I went on Christmas leave to see family. Was to late when I got back

[hearty owl]

I play both equally, almost 6k+ hours in both and can confidently say Destiny 2 has a more hardcore playerbase lol

[strong cave]

To my knowledge, they have. They mentioned being a hunter earlier on there

[solar berry]

Def more. Than Div2. But not as much as it used to be rn

[strong cave]

Damn 💔💔 see even in college and work I made sure, extra sure, to log in and get it. I have a steam deck since I'm more On-The-Go than anything

But I do have a dedicated PC for when I'm home

[solar berry]

I’m in the military. Not your normal civi job

I get called in. I have no excuse to make

[strong cave]

Yeah nah you def don't have that kinda time even if you did get a deck

Yeah service jobs are essential

[hazy steeple]

Started out on Battle.net, yep.

[solar berry]

I have time. Just not as feeely as a normal job you get down the road.

[strong cave]

Which branch? I wanted to go army. Till I got FL baker acted at 18

[solar berry]

Other times. I can’t control

[solar berry]

Navy

[strong cave]

Majority servicemen + women I meet typically go Navy

Meanwhile we all wish we were div agents 😩

[verbal gust]

I am secretly a div agent lol

[solar berry]

When div2 devs talked about spec revamp ordeal during covid. Turns out to be on the back burner and never touched since. I was on deployment at the time then div2 went silent. I was there when I read back, when I got internet access

[subtle bluff]

hooyah

[solar berry]

Not playing. But was in chat and asking questions cuz I was surprised asf when I heard

[verbal gust]

Wait. Heard what?

[young notch]

ortiz any good? or bad skill bad

[strong cave]

Ortiz isn't bad as a full room CC setup. Not as ideal as eclipse but to see a turret go spinny spinny and piss flames like Ghost Rider is comedy to me. Maybe that's my Gen Z humor 💀

[hearty owl]

What you know about the red Ortiz setup

[strong cave]

I'm still pissed about that. Specialists are a joke rn

[hearty owl]

#underrated

[solar berry]

At some point in time. Div2 was supposed to be done for. Devs went pure silent for a hot minute. Community essentially upset, it was like “I appreciate it and we are done” later down the road. Ubi and massive saw the community and gave div2 support again.

[verbal gust]

Red Ortiz Crit and Crit dmg and ironlung lmg?

[strong cave]

With not even half the dev team they had originally, mind you

[hearty owl]

no crit is for ppl that cant hit headshots

[young notch]

can i run ortiz on some legendaries n stuff without pulling my hair out tho

[hearty owl]

4 pc Ortiz w Bag, PGC and Dodge City 😍 🧑‍🍳 chef's kiss

[strong cave]

Post the build let's see it

[solar berry]

Div2 would be done for. But us as a community wanted the game keep on going.

[verbal gust]

Ortiz is a cc room clearer at best support build. I actually wanna tap into final measure tbf been looking for a good setup

[strong cave]

While I won't use it, my buddy might

[solar berry]

Ubi/massive saw how we as a community cared about the game and wanted more.

[strong cave]

They planned to leave the game to die but the community wanted more. Yannick and his team are desperately trying to keep this game going. While they do an iffy job most the time, I have to give them credit where it's due. The dlc felt mid to me but the new gear I'm actually liking. The new set is PERFECT for conflict. It's basically a new contender/competitor for cavalier

[verbal gust]

I for one cannot wait for the tinkerer mask

[solar berry]

I was so pissed. Bruh, I was hyped asf ong. Then sad after cuz they said naw. After they reworked it again

[strong cave]

Locked behind mastery

[strong cave]

Now the dlc is out they should focus on fixing 6 year old bugs (basically the whole game). Then rework specialists. They promised us that nearly 2-3 years ago

[solar berry]

All of this wouldn’t be done if yannick and his team didn’t carry div2. Yannick got proof by the community to back them up for support.

[verbal gust]

Division I think went the way of the wow in late 2019 then did the rubber band man and snapped back flew farther then its lifetime. But it seems like it happens in small increments, eg, life and then needs life support then life again. lol

[hearty owl]

😎

[young notch]

the new final measure looks kinda eh at best compared to d1 final measure

[strong cave]

I can see how that would be viable actually

[verbal gust]

No argument their still miss OG alpha bridge.

[strong cave]

Not having pyro on that is a crime

[verbal gust]

Yeah Why aren’t you using pyro?

[solar berry]

I want it in div2 since 2019

[hearty owl]

yeah I always get bullied for running it 😢 @subtle bluff specifically

[solar berry]

I got the striker I asked for years down the road

[verbal gust]

Wait 12 weeks youl have it in 1 exotic lol

[solar berry]

Now I want my AB

[strong cave]

I want the game to be fixed that's what I want 😂

[solar berry]

I want the gearset 😔

[verbal gust]

You and everyone that had half a brain that’s been playing for almost 10 years ya

[strong cave]

2 years reload bug, ongoing 7 years armor directive bug... C'mon man 🤦‍♀️

[solar berry]

AB Gearset completes my life in div2

[young notch]

what about the catalyst with red ortiz?

[strong cave]

In dz there's spots you can SHOOT THRU WALLS

[verbal gust]

Cata bugged atm

[solar berry]

Catalyst is bugged for the first part of it

[strong cave]

Catalyst only buffs you by 2%. Not the 24% it promised. It's a stack bug

Doesn't register stacks properly. Patrick wolf tested this in a video

[verbal gust]

If your talking about that spot in east dz you can even go rouge and glitch the turrets

[strong cave]

Yup that spot too. There's spots all over west and south that allow that too

[verbal gust]

I know I get killed in those spots all the time.

[solar berry]

Div2 isn’t the same div2 I loved when it was 2019 for dz

[strong cave]

See, on PC, it's plagued with cheaters. Being shot thru the wall is the norm on PC. But if you're in a spot and there's a cheater, it's hard to tell now. Everything melts you. 2.4m armor feels like glass cannon. Pvp needs a MAJOR rework

[verbal gust]

Yeah now ppl have 999 exotic components in a day and shd 7mil

[solar berry]

2019 div2 was fun asf in dz. Now it’s major meh 😒

[hearty owl]

true the struggle was real back then

[verbal gust]

Reason I switched to Xbox which did me no good

[strong cave]

Everyone ran the same setup as always, coyote with 3p prov and Picaros

[hearty owl]

and the game was actually a bit difficult and took some skill

the power creep rn is so insane

[verbal gust]

Not much different than div1 was always pred mark house 😂

[hearty owl]

and they still haven't touched determined like what are we doing

[solar berry]

You can actually tank bullets, do dmg. Snipers were snipers. The whole rework for Wony destroyed dz

[strong cave]

Determined doesn't need a fix. Leave it be. We don't need snipers being nerfed now too. They already fondled striker which only needed a pvp nerf.

[hearty owl]

... "snipers"

[solar berry]

Wony killed dz with the whole arm rework and all. It’s not even close to being good anymore in dz

[hearty owl]

yes bro I love bodyshot chaining without a scope

[verbal gust]

Honestly they should of kept the same dz model as div1 I still remember going to dz 9 when it first came out getting annihilated by shotgunners

Man hunts were a blast back then too

[solar berry]

Started dz1 and work way up to dz9 back down and around

[verbal gust]

Getting that div tech had my own route lol loved that

[solar berry]

Underground sys and all was dope asf

[strong cave]

Div 2 favors DPS. No DPS, not efficient. Only viable weapons rn are AR's, LMGs and SMGs and MMRs bc determined. Nerf determined you're now literally stuck with the old boring builds as always. Pvp determined needs a nerf yes. I agree. But PvE leave it alone. Bots aren't crying about it, just you. Same with striker. Black Tusk didn't cry I was killing too fast. Players that cried it needed it is probably why

[verbal gust]

I love how they nerf stuff in pve like it’s competitive or something

What’s fun?

[strong cave]

THANK YOU. Somebody with a brain

[hearty owl]

I mean before Determined when Aces was the only MMR based gearset people would still be useful with a Nemesis actually headhunting

headhunting now is bodyshotting something lol it's literally not sniping

[solar berry]

They nerf it so it’s not op asf. But major nerfs. I disagree with devs in PvE

If that makes sense

[strong cave]

Aces still works. You're just choosing to not use it. But willy nilly saying something needs a nerf might result in something you didn't actually intend. Don't believe me? Again, look at Striker. Whole community got PISSED they dropped the nerf in the notes when they did

[verbal gust]

Like the scope nerf like now we need to zoom in like why? It’s a 3rd person game wtf

[hearty owl]

like I get why people love Determined so much, it's just such a crutch for so many people

[verbal gust]

Striker didn’t need a nerf the people believing it did need nerfs bruh

[hearty owl]

you put someone in content where they can't keep HH stacks and poof they don't know how to play the game, i.e. raids

[solar berry]

Ong bro. Forced zoom is wild to me. Doctor home can be good if it didn’t force zoom

[rich cosmos]

Them reverting the nerf before anyone even tested it because of a bug is still the stupidest shit ever

[strong cave]

Hence why we recommend them other builds to try. But if that's how they wanna play just let them. Name me ONE efficient MMR build that will clear content quickly. Without using determined. I bet you can't

[rich cosmos]

They should’ve committed to the original nerf

[hearty owl]

I use this for 99% of content in this game

[verbal gust]

When they nerf stuff it breaks the entire game tbf too

[solar berry]

I wish BP gearset was decent. Now it’s ass

[strong cave]

Every decent player knows HH doesn't work on raids except certain parts

[rich cosmos]

It was always ass

[solar berry]

Needs a heavy buff

A serious buff

[rich cosmos]

It needs a rework

[strong cave]

Same with sys Corr and true patriot

[rich cosmos]

Genuinely just buff sys corr but undoing its bug patch

[solar berry]

Devs should rework gearsets across the board. Look at the ones lacking in pick rate

Buff/rework them to be good again

[verbal gust]

3 quarters that we used to use is contributing to the stuff we don’t touch anymore making building less viable in pve. Because conflict and because PvP lol

[hearty owl]

make Strikers lose stacks on missing shots lol everyone would shit themselves

[strong cave]

Not just for the PvE players but whatever BUFFS they do applies to pvp. Mostly. Imagine a broken system breaking even more. That's why pvp players are always shafted every update meanwhile PvE gets their hands held for being "a good agent"

[strong cave]

Yup and there goes 90% of your playerbase

[karmic osprey]

nobody would have stacks then

[hearty owl]

LOL yeah

It's like that in Division 1 btw!1

[solar berry]

We had that. Before then they buffed it so we wouldn’t lose stacks

[karmic osprey]

it would kill the raids and incursions

[verbal gust]

They did that in div1 everyone left I remember the dz was empty af

[hearty owl]

I mean... you just don't miss shots then no???

[strong cave]

The devs know they change determined or striker again, it will kill off their game. They can't afford that with Ubisoft nearly going bankrupt rn

[hearty owl]

Like you become a better player

[verbal gust]

I’m surprised they havnt already

[hearty owl]

I mean most people still use Strikers in the DZ on Division 1 lool

[subtle bluff]

Everyone needing a backfire build but really you don't need backfire to do good dps...

[solar berry]

Atleast tencent isn’t on my precious Div franchise

[verbal gust]

This is an example of a game run by gamers and not devs in terms of business. Massive would have their tails between their legs and game would be dead if not for the player base.

[hazy steeple]

Okay folks, back to the build advice now.

[strong cave]

You say that but good luck hitting far far targets on mnk or controller. Some people can't dedicate the time like others can. Some don't have the actual skill to do so. It's easy to say "get good". How can I get good at mnk when I have literal nerve damage? I have to play controller on PC. A platform dominated by mnk

[solar berry]

Mmm 🤔 riven

[strong cave]

There's factors that go into these things so just shovelling out half baked statements is just foolish

[hearty owl]

😭

[solar berry]

Scatter

[strong cave]

Nah I'll drop a decoy instead and go pulse immune

[hearty owl]

There you go guys the most engaging convo killed

[verbal gust]

Well back to build advice about that final measure. Is it meant really for heals how can it be used in terms of damage?

[solar berry]

Sys corrupt, here we go

[subtle bluff]

It's Niche gearset imo

[strong cave]

Always 😈😈 if anyone needs any sys Corr builds hmu by @ me

[solar berry]

[verbal gust]

I have all pieces been wanting a build with it forever.

[solar berry]

I use a HSD EB arm regen system build… been forever ago.

[subtle bluff]

Ugh can't find the prefect chest.

[hearty owl]

..

[young notch]

any gear talen i can use to increase my survivalbility on my bullet spewing umbra build

[strong cave]

That's so dated 😭😭

[hearty owl]

yo can we remove the 30s slowmode now we're back on topic!!!!!!!!!!!

[solar berry]

Waste of blue for GC for max dps 👀

[subtle bluff]

Try other builds it may not be your playstyle

[strong cave]

I'll need to know each exact roll on each exact piece. That backpack on the set is a Must

[subtle bluff]

Unicorns of unicorns that I can't craft tell me about it

[young notch]

i just want to face tank while shooting a billion bullets like div 1

[strong cave]

Meanwhile bro has the all red crit bag

[hearty owl]

Chow hear me out, PGC

[subtle bluff]

It still better than obl red

[subtle bluff]

that one isn't that hard only need 2 rolls vs the chest you need all 3 rolls

[strong cave]

Loses out on 30% LMG damage. Effectively doing less damage. The LMG damage boosts pestilence ticks

[subtle bluff]

Then I'd drop someonething else I don't wanna drop.

[hearty owl]

Drop the kneepads gang

[solar berry]

I seen a blue blue core build with GC bro kept dying nonstop

[strong cave]

Now you're crit starved gang

[subtle bluff]

But it's nice on pesti

[hearty owl]

Well you were crit starved when u decided to run a Pesti so

[subtle bluff]

Ya I am CHC starved becase I went ROF

[strong cave]

C'mon chow... You know better than this

[hearty owl]

Make it a headshot build

[subtle bluff]

Meh RoF is more fun with Pesti

[strong cave]

umbra

[subtle bluff]

I don't use this build a lot it's fun to use.

But then no fun 1.4mill pesti tick

[strong cave]

Holdup sorry my accent is off.

Um... Bruh? CHC ON LMG. Take your own advice 😭🤣

[hearty owl]

ur right 2pc lengmo and 3pc umbra with forbidden ninja bag

[subtle bluff]

hate you all

[strong cave]

Slap on precision smart cover. Ditch the decoy

[hearty owl]

dont skull react me it's better than whatever you conjured up SIR

[strong cave]

Instant approval

Ninjabike bag is CRUCIAL

[subtle bluff]

DIdn't want to type SiR

[hearty owl]

Well SIR

u smell

[subtle bluff]

I'll come find you in the winter

[strong cave]

Old Spice would do us all some good. We spend too much time on division. Might be a good time to touch grass

[hearty owl]

🫃

[strong cave]

⏸️

[subtle bluff]

Damnitt... I'm sure I can get healing chem ove 60 mill solo

[verbal gust]

Yeah it is I read the talent but I got mostly blue cores with either crit damage or chance (recalib) idk why

[solar sable]

healing chem?!

[subtle bluff]

Yes it's Green

I can foam instead if that make people feel better

[solar sable]

what in the world

[verbal gust]

Yes please foam me for heals that would work better

[karmic osprey]

jesus

[subtle bluff]

Foam frame by frame is interesting.

[verbal gust]

Who riven?

[verbal gust]

Is that like a super skill build you wanna share?

[subtle bluff]

It's one shot trick not even a skill build. This shots is when you learn how all the dmg works in the game you can do something.

[verbal gust]

Ahh I see so when I become smart I can utilize it. Got it

[subtle bluff]

This is just showing off tbh. It's not something we use.

[young notch]

so eclipse protocol backpack or creeping death

[subtle bluff]

What are you trying to do with EP?

Fire/burning everything or CC support?

[young notch]

i think its kinda both

[subtle bluff]

It's one or the other

[young notch]

i use hive bleed and chem fire and end up with top dmg while cc ing alot

[subtle bluff]

Fire Chem and Fire Stick is the go too.

If you're doing dmg you want EP BP

If you read the talent it's pretty simple which one is more important.

[subtle bluff]

Rephase that. Dmg or Support

[young notch]

i read it as one is upfront application or after kill but refresh

[young notch]

oh 100$ was misreading it

[subtle bluff]

Why I'm questioning

[young notch]

i read the 4pc as the backpack buff everytime i have no idea how

[subtle bluff]

Gearset Talent
Chest Gearset Talent
BP Gearset Talent

Talents are powerful when used in combination or have good uptime.

[hasty sluice]

funny goo gun.

[young notch]

ok im using it mainly as support with high skill cd and status effect uptime and dmg a lil bit where i can fit it

[hasty sluice]

EP is great in a group. sticky one thing and watch it spread to everything else

fire EP is fun but only for solo really. In group play the damage really falls of and is only a so so crow control.

[mystic sky]

Hello. Which global modifier should I be using for striker?

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say this should be 1

[mystic sky]

I agree. Haha. I wonder what active modifier to use

[mellow tusk]

the gift providence backpack is a DZ Exclusive Drop?

[cerulean smelt]

yes

[young notch]

if im doing alot of group work you think i can drop a yellow or 2 for some blues in a support ep

[mellow tusk]

is a hard drop? or its possible to drop even if providence is not a target loot in dz's

[hearty owl]

It's just consumig a headhunter stack lol it's not tech

[stark trout]

I've noticed quite a few people have very tanky shields. is there a specific shield that can take more hits? or is it some armor set effect?

[lone roost]

I recently just got back into the game and was wondering if anyone got a good dps/tanky build i can use to farm for some exotics like the st elmo.

[shy willow]

It can be a combination of a number of things

Shield tiers, PFE, etc

[subtle bluff]

In the Pinned Messages there's a bunch of builds

[verbal gust]

What’s the meta Dz related builds? I’m looking for armor regen I want to be tanky but I also wanna do damage.

[solar berry]

Do you have bighorn?

[verbal gust]

Yes

Want to be a one pump chump? Craft a super 90 with streamlined omg!

[fathom brook]

I dropped an absolutely perfect iron lung, it seems like a good lmg for a more support dps role right? I'm curious how it compares to the bluescreen dilemma build

[patent fossil]

It's a great lmg, good dps and the talent helps deal with the suppression issue that lmgs have

[fathom brook]

That's good news, what would be a good set with it?

[strong cave]

Striker

[fathom brook]

Daring today

[strong cave]

You can go high end like pesti and do 3 PC lengmo but gl getting those unicorn rolls

[fathom brook]

Well, I got it for iron lung

All max rolls with TOC

[strong cave]

It's the same bonuses and setup but swap pesti for your lung

Heartbreaker could work since it does give LMG damage but you'll be crit starved and will need to rely on pulse skills and headshots

[strong cave]

Dtoc comes default with LMGs. What's the 3rd attribute?

[fathom brook]

Uhh give me a moment I can check

I remember it was damn good though

[strong cave]

Damage to Armor on Iron Lung is decent. You can do crit chance but I believe Iron Lung already comes with decent crit chance (or damage) due to the mods on the gun

[verbal gust]

Blue screen will not drop for me. Is that dilemma build good? If so il build it and what do I use instead of blue screen til I get it?

[strong cave]

Anything with Dilemma works. Don't use strega tho and DONT use turmoil kneepads. It heavily nerfs strega and nego

[strong cave]

Beautiful 👌

[verbal gust]

I don’t have turmoil I got ganked out of that deal. But alright maybe an lmg with streamlined

[strong cave]

Yeah I say run striker with that

[fathom brook]

wasn't even looking for it

[strong cave]

Ceska chest, Coyote mask, 4 PC striker. Oblit talent, or glass cannon. Up to you. Crit damage everywhere you can. You'll need I think 1 or 2 CHC mods and 1 or 2 chd mods. Apply mods where you need to make up for your crits. Cannot remember if it's either or

[magic pilot]

Personally I'd hold on to that and get a chc one

[strong cave]

Doesn't lung come with crit mods? Can't remember if damage or chance obviously

[fathom brook]

10% chc

[verbal gust]

Comes with 10 chc and 20chd

[strong cave]

I know pesti doesn't and nor does Blue. Iron Lung received a mod buff recently

[strong cave]

Yeah leave it to dta then

Reason prodigy said CHC one is because you can stack more chd on certain builds. They're not wrong with that

[verbal gust]

I use iron lung in conflict and my only complaint is the mag size other than that gun is cool

Honestly the bigger the magazine I guess makes the burn take longer to get to I’m sure

[strong cave]

Ninja, 3 PC umbra, picaros, 1 PC Brazos fixes that lol

[hushed gorge]

3rd time TwT

[strong cave]

More damage actually. Totally worth it

Not on burn but dmg per mag

[verbal gust]

That’s the build I use 🤣

[strong cave]

🤣🤣

[verbal gust]

How’d ya know?

[strong cave]

I run it as 1 PC walker and picaros. Ninja bag and umbra. You'll get more damage with walker bc of the wd and dta bonuses

3 blues I think 5 reds

[verbal gust]

Yeah that extra weapon damage global mod is not bad either might try that

[strong cave]

Walker gives 5%. Picaros got nerfed by 5 to match Yaahl. Which is 10% for both the brand and picaros. Pair picaros with walker and you get 15% wd. Free red core

[verbal gust]

Oh I just noticed that wtf? Haha

Picaros? What happened to you ?

[strong cave]

The devs fondled it is what happened. There are RARE bugged holsters still at 15% wd. Those were before the WD came as a fixed attribute. You used to have to optimize to full

[verbal gust]

God sake. Well I’m still waiting on my blue screen that dilemma build looks nasty saw someone one shot hunter in countdown (hacker) 🤣 w it. I saw him disappear too BAN LOL

[strong cave]

Either got banned or DC'd. Doubt it was a ban negl

On PC they surely won't be banned

[verbal gust]

Yeah prob dc but legit dude was carrying the whole squad we got done w the hunters on heroic in like 10 sec flat 🤣

[strong cave]

Anybody got any cancerous overlord builds they got up their sleeve? I need more anti-movement rogue police builds

[verbal gust]

Hunters Fury Mask, Chest Piece, Gloves, and Holster with Liquid Engineer backpack and Fox’s Prayer Kneepads

[strong cave]

Hunters fury? In dz? I'll kiss the ground with that build

Hunters fury chest nerfs HF entirely

[verbal gust]

Badger tough chest with intimidate matador backpack improvised knees holster and gloves with Chc mods and chill out mask with maxed chd mods

I used to run that anyway

[magic pilot]

There is no hackers on Xbox that's a common misconception

[verbal gust]

But why no contractors?

[magic pilot]

Shotgun comes with DTA

[verbal gust]

I’m on pc and Xbox but yeah and more dta is always good dta unless theirs a cap I don’t know about. lol

[magic pilot]

No but there is dimished returns

[strong cave]

I run mine with three blues and three reds

[magic pilot]

Yea that works too

[strong cave]

I'm also pretty sure I run mine as two piece Walker & harris. It won't be nearly as much as contractors but it works all the same

[rich lotus]

Why does honey badger only have 3 mod slots. It's my favorite gun 🥲

[verbal gust]

Also where is this dilemma build w blue screen? I don’t see it in the gdocs is their a different setup you guys use?

[strong cave]

Likely a YTer build

Those don't really go into the spreadsheets as the spreadsheet is updated by number crunchers. Dod Regnbue, Tickle, and iKiA are all solid examples to take advice from. Not saying the build isn't decent but it's likely not in the spreadsheet bc of the fact it isn't updated for that build or it's not recommended for efficiency

[lofty frigate]

palisade bloodsucker or liquid engineer(perfect bloodsucker)
Which of the two would be better for a striker build?

[magic pilot]

It's in the pinned sheet

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uC1ZYSegDfj5s9hrkZJUo7Z4FeMTjgKgZ1L6MqVj_Kg/edit?usp=drivesdk

[zenith plover]

Really appreciate your advice guys, i was able to build my starter hotshot build just in time for the 3x exp event, i was able to farm 20 shd levels cause of that, hoping to farm 350 more SHD levels before the event ends

Do u guys have any mmr recos asides from white death but a more accurate aim at lower shd levels?

[onyx sage]

they're all the same

[zenith plover]

Is there a limit on the number of times that u can reset control point? And when resetting control points do u still get the same number of exp?

[onyx sage]

no, and yes

[coral reef]

How are people "prestiging" their guns? I only have them at level 5. But I see people with their gear level 20+ I play with the same gear all the time and it does not advance. Am I missing something?

[shy willow]

you have to manually upgrade specific items through expertise after reaching max proficiency with it

[median hull]

You need to get more items proficient to increase expertise level

Then you can upgrade the times based on your expertise level

[zenith plover]

So unlimited resets and same exp? Yay!!

[coral reef]

That is how I got them to level 5. Is there another way to level up your guns/gear?

[vestal ibex]

To expertise an item you just need to increase your expertise level via gaining ranks on non proficient items then applying said levels via the menus for expertise.

[sullen night]

You can only upgrade the gear to your overall expertise level, to improve your overall expertise you have to become proficient with all items and skills (by donating duplicates of them to the expertise bench or playing with said items)

Could try to look up one of the Expertise videos on YT if chat doesn't make it clear

[vestal ibex]

#ask-td2-community message One of a billion explanations on expertise, pinned in the #ask-td2-community channel along with a bunch of other good info.

[solar berry]

I wish the muzzle had a fixed stat boost or sum. Like 10% chc

[dreamy valve]

You guys think Bullet King is still better than Pakhan?

[untold fulcrum]

Streamline seems super good? Im a returning player, is it meta now?

[vestal ibex]

It really depends on your skill usage.

[dreamy valve]

3 red cores of weapon damage if you give up both of your skill slots

I think the trade off isn’t worth it right now

Might be ok if your fighting something like Hunters where they disrupt your skills

[untold fulcrum]

What skills do people even use

[dreamy valve]

I personally use shield and defender drone for my bruiser build

The shield gives amp damage buff from firewall spec

Most players take revive hive which has the longest cooldown in the game

[rough thistle]

Trying all day to get the cayote mask no luck

[young notch]

does refactor get effected by skill repair?

[graceful gulch]

What build should I go for as I’ve just reached level 40 or any advice is kindly appreciated. Thank you 🙏🏽

[brisk bay]

So I have a question how good is hunter fury with chatterbox on heroic difficulty

[magic pilot]

Check the pinned sheet

[magic pilot]

Chatter is pretty good now since it got a buff to the talent

[crimson flume]

How can I get the chatter

[indigo terrace]

There’s videos on YouTube showing you where the locations are for the parts to build it

Is hunter still the go to or is striker back in demand?

[crimson flume]

I appreciate it, thank you I’ll look them up. Majority of the video are from 6y ago wasn’t sure those methods still worked

[indigo terrace]

If you haven’t built it before it should work, I’m not sure about getting it after, I just rebuilt mine to get it levelled up

[brisk bay]

Yea it's a farm on grand hotel and Jefferson for hyena boxes u need atleast 8 keys to be safe

[plucky delta]

hey, i'm struggling a lot with dps, feels like i can barely do any damage

any tips on what to farm? i'm currently running countdown to get st elmo

these are my items

[young notch]

whats the best archetype for lmg ?

[indigo terrace]

What are the roles for the core? If they’re not full work on getting them maxed

[plucky delta]

i'm sorry, define roles

[raven inlet]

Many ways to go about it. But it seems you need get crit up. Is the chameleon a level 40 or did you get it pre watch?

[plucky delta]

level 40

[indigo terrace]

Your build is all firearm cores right? So it should be weapon damage as the main core ability on each armour

[plucky delta]

oh okay got it now

[raven inlet]

Okay. Yeah just max the cores and roll for crit chance and dmg. Hit the 60% cap or stay at about 50%+ with the rest in crit damage.

[crimson flume]

That’s another question I have. How do I level up my gun. Let’s say I have a “ favorite “ weapon I run with.

[plucky delta]

ok thanks yall

[crimson flume]

Haven’t played since D2 release. So my memory on the game went to shit.

[indigo terrace]

Exotic or gold?

[plucky delta]

tried searching for guides and couldn't understand a thing lol

[crimson flume]

Gold

I’m lvl 55.

[raven inlet]

If you have questions you can message personally I’ll try to help as much as I can.

[indigo terrace]

Takes time and concentration, I spent hours looking through build videos on D1, gave up in the end but it’s actually quite simple when you take time to understand it

[plucky delta]

and also, instead of running for st elmo, should i farm for striker set to get better cores?

[indigo terrace]

You can try to build it if you have the BP or farm for a fresh one, targeted loot for the weapon and go to summit or countdown

[indigo terrace]

You can recalibrate your cores it depends on what they all look like and how much you think st Elmo’s will change your game I suppose

[long aurora]

hi

do you guys recommend any red build for starters ?

[indigo terrace]

You’ve got an empty gear mod slot on the backpack and chest piece I think you can add something too

[crimson flume]

Sucks I had to start fresh on pc from Xbox. Pain was worst than a break up.

[indigo terrace]

Couldn’t skip to level 40?

[loud pine]

strikers

[crimson flume]

I found out about the boost after I reached level 40.

[indigo terrace]

That sucks

[crimson flume]

I might be tripping but I feel like it was way less complex before compared to now

But I’m doing my research as I go to catch up on “ what’s new “

[indigo terrace]

I know the tinkering station wasn’t on launch not sure about the recalibration

[long aurora]

this one?

thanks

[loud pine]

yep that will sort you through most of the game then use it to farm other builds in countdown for stuff like headhunter, od and ep etc

[long aurora]

hmmm i see, thanks

[young notch]

how are sawyers kneepads for tanking to like tardigrade or any other exotic

[zenith plover]

In my exp for solo starters i ran mine with 4 pieces striker, holster, mask, gloves and knees, then had a ceska chest piece with obliterate and a memento back pack for coop just replace memento with a striker backpack and mask with cayote, obliterate really helps a lot with dps and try running st elmos instead of chameleon since imo chameleon is much better at later difficulties because of the stacks

[magic pilot]

Terrible

[young notch]

nice

just tardigrade then for tanking or pointman?

[rough thistle]

@solar sable making progression 🙏🏽

[young notch]

how is aegis as a gear set

[safe thunder]

Guys what is the metà dps atm? Ive seen a video with catalyst and backfire , and another with the smg from the pass

[cyan drift]

very normal countdown vendor reset W

Lefty has DTOC, Gift has CHC/Health

[cerulean smelt]

amusing isn't it?

[magic pilot]

Tanks in general aren't very good in Div 2

It's more of a tanky support style more than just taking dmg

[solar sable]

keep goin'!

[cyan drift]

this is already 20x better than what newer players typically have

[rough thistle]

I still need a good striker holster and kneepads

And then some adjustments

[solar sable]

oh vest is Ceska, not Fenris

[young notch]

yeah im just drawing aggro, ccing and marking for a hard/raid content with a friend trying to just build as many gearsets for fun aspossible

[cyan drift]

seeing this is never going to hurt less, is it

[rough thistle]

Yeah that too sorry

Ceska with obliterate

[worn imp]

Fastest way to farm Dark Winter? Named caches from CD or DZ with SMG targeted?

[hasty sluice]

HF backpack is potato right?

[hasty sluice]

there is no fastest. both are just rng. also the 9mm vector is better than the .45 atm

[worn imp]

How many different named items are in the DZ?

[cerulean smelt]

spreadsheet in the pins here lists them all

[hasty sluice]

^

[cerulean smelt]

seperated in gears and weapons

[hasty sluice]

even says lightzone/darkzone

[solar sable]

this is meta wdym

[solar berry]

Better if 6pc of striker

[cyan drift]

the 5 pieces of a gear set, is what I mean

like yea, striker st emlos etc etc is perfectly fine, but seeing people bring more than 4 gear pieces cause of div 1 hurts a little bit

[solar sable]

gearset says 4+ bonus there's a secret bonus when more than 4 pieces are equipped!!!!!!!

[cyan drift]

I've seen someone at SHD 400 using one gear piece of 5 different sets

[solar sable]

let me guess
with bikeninja

[cyan drift]

no

[solar sable]

fudge

[cyan drift]

piece 6 wasn't even an exotic

[solar sable]

random HE piece that got picked up the floor

[hasty sluice]

smh missing 2 gear slots

we live in a society

[young notch]

yall made refactor gearset like the worse thing ever, it doesnt feel that bad tf

[hasty sluice]

its a great passive support hybrid

do damage = healing

[young notch]

its like a unminmmaxed skill build in dmg but i get survivalbility

and i dont have so much wasted healing like Future

[solar berry]

FI is the top healer/support build.

Refractor isn’t bad, but it’s also meh. Overall a fun skill build to run. Just doesn’t out heal FI.

[young notch]

yeah it puts out crazy numbers but those crazy numbers arent used as efficently imo

[solar berry]

I have to say. Refractor do the best at distractions when it do heals

[exotic finch]

Any Tipps ?

Thankful for every Tipp 😀

[urban latch]

running a crusader shield will help a ton since it will be a t4 skill. Imo the HB backpack really isnt worth it. A backpack with vigilance is very good on HB because the bonus armor you gets protects vigi from going inactive

[hasty sluice]

cant decide what to use as a chestplate

Ik it should be badger but idk what skill to use

I guess I could run intimidate with momento

[raven inlet]

I run Solokov with Obliterate and momento Bp and it slapppppsss to be fair.

[hasty sluice]

understandable. trying to make a shotgun HF. should have made it more clear

[raven inlet]

Then same thing but Badger.

Sorry I went to tag you and didn’t clear that but yeah this is to your reply just now.

[magic pilot]

Not even mentioning the kingbreaker huh

[hasty sluice]

there we go. not the best chest plate but I also dont feel like farming out a unicorn rn

[magic pilot]

I'd actually run ceska

And it's easier to farm

[hasty sluice]

I dont have a ceska chest.....

[urban latch]

eh, its fine on HB

[magic pilot]

Police m4>kingbreaker

[hasty sluice]

I know i need a cheska but like. this is fine for now.

im just gonna run this for funny shotgun speed running

[magic pilot]

Ceska would slot into striker, nego, high end really well also

[hasty sluice]

I run PS in my strikers

this hurts to look at rn

so i simply wont

[magic pilot]

That's why ceska

[violet juniper]

ditch Kingbreaker

it's so bad

[young notch]

can i make blood knuckles work

[solar sable]

bloody knuckles are great against raid bosses (incursion mainly)
afaik they're not that great outside of that

[hasty sluice]

amazing "the gift" in countdown

[young notch]

melee is fixed dg or % dmg?

[subtle bluff]

What do you mean.

[signal night]

i thought you could only get this from DZ?

[hasty sluice]

Countdown vendor sells anything

[subtle bluff]

Named Cache can get it.

[hasty sluice]

as it just sells named items.

[young notch]

well if theyre great against raid bosses id assume it was %health dmg right because yk more dmg but if its fixed melee dmg 2x of like 7 is still not alot

[signal night]

Oh you mean named cache. got it

[hasty sluice]

i mean its in the shop

[signal night]

thank you for responding

[signal night]

understood

[subtle bluff]

What are you talking about?

[long aurora]

hi, how can i farm the striker gearset?

[young notch]

the bloody knuckles

[subtle bluff]

Countdown target loot.

[subtle bluff]

Ya.... Still makes no sense what you're saying.

[long aurora]

how's that work?

[young notch]

talking about this stateent and wondering why

[subtle bluff]

Read the talent...

How the talent is proc

[rough thistle]

Can I find a ceska with obliterate or do I need to add it on it

[solar sable]

you can, but as I said that day:

1. If the vest has both crits you have an open talent slot (can recalibrate any talent anytime)
2. If you get one crit and Obliterate then you can put both crits

[tranquil surge]

what the best way to get cayote mask? it's posible get without dls? And how add talents to your geaar?

[solar sable]

Anywhere Mask TL, someone already had answered your question before iirc

[tranquil surge]

it was about striker gear

[young notch]

ok so either on melee hit or grenade hit it procs +25% wdmg and 100% melee dmg that can be reprocd, still asking is it just because the 25% wdmg or is melee %health dmg

[rough thistle]

Bro I have been grinding all day no luck then I did the Jefferson trade center on heroic matchmake and I got it the second game

[onyx sage]

it's used for the weapon damage

[solar sable]

JTC isn't the best, but it kinda works

[onyx sage]

it's 25% total weapon damage not weapon damage like it's saying, it's among the best buffs in the game

[rough thistle]

Yeah idk man did it 2 times on heroic it’s only 7% chance tho

So yeah I get why you say it’s not the best

[young notch]

cool thanks for the answer

[thorny solstice]

Has there been update to Pestilence debuff ? Is it considered status effect now ?
Asking because ive seen too many people stacking status with pesti 😄

[versed summit]

No

It can be used alongside status effects, but really only for triple tick builds, where they’re there to buff stuff like od and vile

[tranquil surge]

what i can do with gear system mods?

[versed summit]

Equip them on your gear

Depending what level you are you might not be able to equip them yet though

[warm knot]

Need a backfire build that's not striker. Any tips?

[violet juniper]

Hazpro

2 piece Yaahl, 3 Piece Lavoisier and a Sokolov piece would be my bet

[subtle bluff]

IMO it's like striker but worse. You need to build stacks to be able to do good damage.

[warm knot]

Idc I just wanna try something different yk.

[solar sable]

hunters fury may be an option