td2-build-advice

[fresh fox]

for everything.

[vestal ibex]

Man life is hard

[fair dragon]

S&A procs on hit while TS procs on kill. But in a way, S&A also procs on kill if it one-hits the enemy.

S&A is better when it comes to chungas, but either way it's gonna take forever to kill them

[shy willow]

I was gonna say pull a crossbow out then realised it's a mortar build

[fair dragon]

I love the restrictiveness on the mortar build, makes it all the better

[vestal ibex]

Just run DCH and pop them.

[fresh fox]

raven is

[grim rover]

This is the second time ive done this in here. Ive been doin summit trying to find the umbra chest and swap it out but what else should i be doing. I seem to be melting shit on hard but would like to move up. Also which lmg

I got solid rolls on most things so im kinda hesitant to give em up

[patent fossil]

I believe there's an umbra build in the pinned spreadsheet, you likely just want to swap out to a ceska vigilance bag once you get the umbra chest. Iron lung would be a good choice of lmg if you have it.

[grim rover]

Solid appreciate it. Should i jist keep grinding summit for said lmg? Im relatively new am not sure wtf im doing lol

[patent fossil]

Matchmake into countdown on challenging difficulty if you can, that's the easiest way to farm gear quickly

[grim rover]

Imma look up iron lung and hopefully get a god damn chesr piece at some point lol

[patent fossil]

Iron lung is an exotic so doing priority objectives with exotic rewards would also be a valid farming strategy

[grim rover]

I thought about it but i feel like im not nearly capable and dont eanna drag people down

[patent fossil]

Summit just has really low drop rates

[patent fossil]

Challenging countdown is easy, don't worry about being carried at first, that only really matters on heroic. Just don't use hackable skills like turret and drone

[grim rover]

Well i got a full set of really bad strikers as least lol

[grim rover]

Ive been running shield and pulse

The gunner pulse rather

[patent fossil]

You'll be fine with striker or umbra, just follow your group and shoot at stuff

[grim rover]

Ok appreciate it man

Havent done countdown yet so here we go!

Im probably (definitely) stupid where tf is it

[patent fossil]

Just go through the matchmaking tab

[violet juniper]

top right of the map

[patent fossil]

It's the pentco power plant next to the general Anderson manhunt mission

[vestal ibex]

Can also use the map tabs and go to the match making tab.

[grim rover]

Baller thanks dudes

Just got off a 16 hour shift and had a cpl beers so we strugglin over here

[vestal ibex]

Naw sounds like you doing good.

[grim rover]

Killin the game

Got a group. Thanks boys

[agile pelican]

What should I go for?

[vestal ibex]

Top thing is that vanguard... You've got no armor cores so it does little to nothing.

[agile pelican]

whats that mean sorry aint played in years

[vestal ibex]

The talent on your chest, obliterate or if you don't mind more incoming damage glass cannon are better picks.

Also if you really enjoy this style of build you might wanna consider an OD build.

[agile pelican]

should I swap both my providence pieces?

[agile pelican]

thats what im going for

what would you rtecommend for a crit damage build?

[vestal ibex]

I mean I'd obliterate on the chest and vigi on the backpack for that build you have, I'm also not a fan of chameleon because it's only good if you can keep the buffs up and it's just up less than most think.

[agile pelican]

what ar would you recommend

[vestal ibex]

I mean what you have is fine. Other build like OD/nego/strikers will outperform it tho.

[vestal ibex]

Same slop everyone suggest. I mean most of this stuff is listed out in the build guides.

[agile pelican]

wait what is OD sorry thought u put CD

[vestal ibex]

Ongoing directive.

[grim rover]

Yall werent lying challenging countdown was a damn breeze lol

[tulip charm]

Yeah and same quality of loot compared to heroic

[grim rover]

Yeah i just blew through 2 runs in less than an hour i thought its be a slow grind at rhat difficulty level

Ive been solo since i started a cpl months ago so yeah. This is all new to me

[dreamy grotto]

definetly should get new exotic gloves instead coyotes - they allow you to reset chameleon stacks in fights, so you can have infinite duration

i tried, and its awesome

[alpine escarp]

Hello. Returning player here. Making a new char. Would love to know if shield builds, particularly the deflector build is still viable in PvE and PvP?

[urban latch]

crusader/striker shield is one of the strongest skills in the game, but the deflector has basically always been one of the worst in the game

[tulip gulch]

Is it safe to say that most exotic lmgs or lmgs in general want “damage to armor” as an attribute ?

[thorny solstice]

Yes

[prime elbow]

Is this good or should I change smt ?

[hazy steeple]

DtA is nice and all, but don't discount the other options.
Especially since it only works on enemies with a White Bar over their health.

@prime elbow The Striker Chest is only really good against enemies with massive health pools, like in the Incursion/Heroic CD, etc.
Otherwise you're better off with a Ceska Chest, usually with Obliterate.

[prime elbow]

I see, thx

[solar sable]

You're better off with the basic setup:
Coyote's
Ceska vest w/oblit
4pc Striker's

Everything rolled to CHD first, then CHC.

[prime elbow]

Exodus not that good? Been running Coyotes forever, wanted a change

[onyx sage]

no, chc is most used

[heavy abyss]

Hey question is the memento still good for a armor on kill damage build?

[hazy steeple]

a Memento build for it is a lot of fun, allows a different kinda playstyle with the same gearset.

[thorny solstice]

Wut? Infinite duration on all 3 stacks ? 😄

Need to have all 3 active when Exodus procs ?

[dreamy grotto]

they put you out of combat, so as many charged procs you have, as many will reset
and also it have 40 sec cd, when procs duration is 45, so you basically have 5 secs to reproc it by exposing yourself to enemies or a grenade)

[thorny solstice]

Sound good. I thought its bugged and make it literally infinite, no need for exodus again, that would have been insane, lol

[dreamy grotto]

oh, no, but in general its still good - even if you able to reproc it once, its already an x2 duration - which is nice

[prime elbow]

I mean, how? Exodus Gloves + Memento?

[slate spoke]

Exodus is good, more good if it lets you ditch the reviver hive for something else useful.

[slate spoke]

what role/function do you want the build for?

[prime elbow]

PvE in general

[dire anchor]

what is that small smg looking weapon?

[solar sable]

Ouroboros. Incursion exclusive. Chances from getting it from Brooklyn caches are .5%.

[slate spoke]

i can just see some situations being a little tricky since you are dedicated to close range. that exodus is going to do a lot of work. you won't have long range or a skill to work as a gap closer.

[dire anchor]

i see idk what incursion is i have seen it on the map but not sure if i can just jump in lol

[solar sable]

No, "Paradise Lost: Incursion" is meant to be run with a 4 people group.

[dire anchor]

oh

[slate spoke]

@prime elbow i DMed you in case

[obtuse sable]

Someone on PlayStation help me set up a pve build pls

[slate spoke]

thoughts on this build for killing hunters. all the blues are hazard protection.

nah, but playing with a team. trying to cc them as much as possible.

[hazy steeple]

You can't use 2 gear or 2 gun Exotics at the same time, just an FYI.
So e.g. No Coyotes+Memento.

[magic pilot]

If you are going to foam hunters just run hazpro eclipse

[slate spoke]

ah yeah i had that before. tried putting this together just to get a bit more status effect duration. but i think i'm only gaining 15% status effect

[slate spoke]

so i think you are both right, maybe put back in eclipse and take out vile.

[magic pilot]

Courier/yaahl

[slate spoke]

don't need yaahl if each piece has hazard pro

[magic pilot]

Your mods should be disrupt resistance

IMO

[slate spoke]

ah give up the other hazards immunity so i can switch the skill haste into status effect basically?

[magic pilot]

Yea that's how I run it

[slate spoke]

do you run banshee and foam or something else instead of banshee?

[magic pilot]

Foam and emp jammer or sticky usually

But I change second skill a lot

[slate spoke]

but probably don't have gunner so you can have banshee as an option?

[obtuse sable]

Anyone know a good pve build that’s easy to set up for someone that is bad at putting builds together

[slate spoke]

obliterate chest and striker backpack. 3 other pieces of striker and the last piece your choice.

[magic pilot]

Up to you

I usually run survivalist

[obtuse sable]

What’s about guns

[slate spoke]

st elmos or anything over 700 rpm

[prime elbow]

I'm aware, just didn't know what you were mentioning by replying to me asking if Exodus was decent

[slate spoke]

exodus is good if you basically need another revive. ideally you arn't even losing your armor in the first place though.

[obtuse sable]

The obliterate chest is it green or orange

[slate spoke]

what you got works, maybe a few tweaks

[obtuse sable]

Like what

[slate spoke]

run at least 4 armor cores, ditch the fenris. if you need more damage ditch the backback

[obtuse sable]

What should I look for instead of fenris

[dreamy grotto]

how to become "good" at putting basic builds together
step 1 - grab 4 pcs of dps set (striker, heartbreaker, umbra, hunters fury)
step 2 - grab coyote mask or other exotic (memento, centurion scabbard, exodus gloves etc)
step 3 - grab a gun you like to use
step 4 - set all base cores to red, and all attributes to chc till you get to 50%, the rest to chd

done - you r builder now

[slate spoke]

you are probably starved for crit so ceska and grupo. exodus gloves work nicely too

[hazy steeple]

Memento is a change from Coyotes, it was just a decent suggestion that'll allow you to make it quickly.

[obtuse sable]

I don’t have exodus gloves not 29 in battle pass but don’t know how to lvl it up

[slate spoke]

got any good exotic gear pieces? you don't need any in there but it might just spice it up more.

[hazy steeple]

Priority Objectives are the fastest way.
GL Agent

[obtuse sable]

That’s my only exotic

[slate spoke]

i think people like using carthasis with heartbreaker. might be worth a try to see if you like it.

[obtuse sable]

Okay

[slate spoke]

there are downsides and upsides to it so some people might not like it

[slate spoke]

you are using scanner pulse? you like it over the linked laser pointer or the tactician drone(pulsing drone)?

[obtuse pecan]

Do you go any exotic at all on Eclipse status builds nowadays?

[dreamy grotto]

vile?

[obtuse pecan]

... I'm literally replying to a guy saying to drop Vile

[onyx sage]

on fire builds you run vile, on pure control builds it depends. the situation above was for pure control. most of the time you don't run any exotic gear

[obtuse pecan]

yeah I'm talking about control as well

[onyx sage]

then you mostly don't run any exotic

[obtuse pecan]

I took a break for 2~ years and Vile was usable at some point even on control iirc

[onyx sage]

if you do, it's mostly for utility, like BTSU gloves and Acosta

[obtuse pecan]

or at least it wasn't necessary to run anything else

[onyx sage]

Vile isn't good for control. you don't want to kill steal from DPS

[obtuse pecan]

I'll mess around and see what I like the most then

tyty

[tulip gulch]

Man I need this mask smh

[dreamy grotto]

talking about control, does someone tested - bluescreen statuses are affected by status effect stat, or no?

[onyx sage]

iirc yes

[obtuse sable]

I just found backfire in countdown is that a good one

[solar sable]

keep

[tulip gulch]

I love that gun

[obtuse sable]

Doing Roosevelt legendary in middle of mission got bighorn

[solar sable]

mostly used in PvP

[obtuse sable]

Damn I saw that %450 dmg got excited then you said PvP

[solar sable]

it's not bad for pve, it's just more of a pvp gun

[obtuse sable]

Went doing only 1mill with Lexington to 6mill with bighorn

[hexed steppe]

I do 👴

[onyx sage]

leave that red alive for me pls

[hexed steppe]

Takin them out with my jammer as we speak

[onyx sage]

time to block.

[fair dragon]

but sir you are not a tank

[subtle bluff]

Dmg per bullet is nice but DPS is what matters in the end.

[obtuse sable]

Yea I don’t hit for that much damn

[subtle bluff]

The meme is that this was healing chem launcher. But the real thing is learning how to build and stacks stats to get things like to do good dmg.

[obtuse sable]

I’m just bad at making builds

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages there link to a few in there

[unkempt shell]

How much crit dps is to much cuz I have 177 crit dps on my smg build and 52 crit chance

@subtle bluff

I need ya wisdom

I am using dark winter smg

[glossy scarab]

Put another chc mod or roll on it. It'll do better w 60chc

Or at least closer to 60

[subtle bluff]

It really depends on the build. With an SMG I'd have go check

[subtle bluff]

Can you post the build?

[subtle bluff]

CHC 58% and CHD 166% on SMG

[unkempt shell]

Cant I’m not on Xbox plus it hella late

Four part Hunter fury with soklov and the group sombra bag

I will dm u it tomorrow

[subtle bluff]

Don't DM me I don't get them.

[subtle bluff]

is your weapon fully mod to CHC?

[unborn fable]

for a standard dps build, whats the best ar talent to roll?

[prime elbow]

if you just looking for dmg, Killer

it truly depends on what you running and planning to do, some could say Flatline for example, but only if you running pulse build

[unborn fable]

yea i was torn betweeen that and strained

not running pulse for flatline to be worth

[cerulean smelt]

i like strained since it's not a on kill talent

[hazy steeple]

Strained is pretty great, even since Killers buff.

[subtle bluff]

Strained, Killer, Measured, Ranger are all good.
All the Flat % are really good but only if your build runs it already.

There is no best.

[warm knot]

Quick question, how much hazpro do I need to be immune to backfire bleed? Is it the same for every effect? I think disrupt is 97.8% or something.

[prime elbow]

Around 95 or so

[prime elbow]

and no, you could have 100% Hazpro but if your bleed is at 92% you'll bleed

[warm knot]

That's for normal disrupt, it seems that countdown hunters require higher values.

[prime elbow]

99

[onyx sage]

there's not like "one" value you can use and it'll make you immune

[kind crest]

you wont necessarily need hazpro tbh, just maintain stacks and maybe have some sort of aok or armor regen so u wont lose too much armor during the buildup

[prime elbow]

Matador is a viable option no? Or just slap some regen

[kind crest]

depends on what you use it for tbh😅 i kinda only use it in the incursion so the 10% aok from gunner is enough for me

but i would say aok or regen would be the better option

adrenaline rush will still leave u at less armor if u dont have any regen or aok (if u accidentally take off anything that isnt bonus armor)

[warm knot]

Not the point here, but I appreciate that anyways. The biggest problem is the red screen, which is annoying. And I'm asking this for someone else.

[kind crest]

ohh okay yea if u dont want the red screen u would need to be fully resistant i think 🙂

[warm knot]

They seem to be struggling trying to get 3 perfect bleed resistance mods. I told them it wasn't necessary.

[cerulean smelt]

not sure the number, but if you get it to a certain point it'd be like a milisecond blip of bleed

[prime elbow]

I meant bleed, Hunter Disrupt is 99%

[kind crest]

hmmm they dont need to be perfect i think, i think bleed resistantce is at about 95-97% ? so he could have unoptimised mods

[prime elbow]

yep 93%

if you manage to get 95% bleed and 99% disrupt you should be good

[kind crest]

ahh yea, so unless he wants the loadout to look good and be fully optimised he should be alright right ?😅 or does the backfire glitch and still give a red screen ?

[warm knot]

Ofc that's important too, but it costs your mental health. RNG gods are upset with them

[prime elbow]

I mean, just get luckier

[stiff jasper]

95.1

[subtle bluff]

You don't need hazpro to deal with the bleed

Get to 100 stacks

or reload 3 times quickly

[stiff jasper]

Backfire bleed last for 10 second, 95.1 resistance reduces it less than 0.5 then immune

[subtle bluff]

You don't need hazpro...

[stiff jasper]

He ask how to immune
in fact if you have no hazard, you will bleeding unless no stack increase or you don't reload
Actually you don't even need backfire

[subtle bluff]

You can immune after 3 bleeds

[stiff jasper]

first, you still bleed few times, not immune at all
Second, it's not about how many time you reload then immune, it still under decreasing rules of status effect

[subtle bluff]

If you don't know if anyone Boss, Enemies or us after 3 Status Effect we become a immune for a short bit which will take off the bleed.
I was showing the example of it coming off. If you stack to 100 you won't get afterwards.

I've used Backfire probably more than most players due the amount of incursion runs I have done with it..

[stiff jasper]

You need to learn about mechanic of status effect and also backfire

If you get status effect second time in short time, the duration will decrease
And every time you reload backfire, it remove bleed first then immediately apply again

You can replay your recording and see if the second time and third time are ending so fast

[subtle bluff]

This was suppose to be only for PvP but it is one everyone now.

[stiff jasper]

It is for both pvp and pve from day1
Devs just mention some old machanic on patch note then people thought they working

[subtle bluff]

Explain why I am not bleed after reloading after 4 reload then.

[stiff jasper]

Because you keep reloading in short time, and diminishing not going down yet

[subtle bluff]

And that's what I've talking about this whole time...

[stiff jasper]

Try this, After the third time you bleeding, shot to keep stack but don't reload, After a while you reload, you bleeding again

[subtle bluff]

Idk if you noticed or not on any of the clips.

[warm knot]

Funny how this started with a quick question and you guys turned it into some sort of presidential debate

[restive dome]

New to build discussion eh?

[rich lotus]

Can anybody tell me if the crit hit chance from the Retribution modifier in Theo Master Mission goes above my 60% that I already have on my build?

[restive dome]

No, 60% is the cap

[warm knot]

Nope, but this is the first time I see something like that

[restive dome]

Stick around lol

[unkempt shell]

@subtle bluff here

[subtle bluff]

I tried to keep it simple... The other just didn't believe or understand. 😐

[warm knot]

I'm not blaming anyone btw, it's quite the opposite.

[bitter sable]

Consider Unstoppable Force if not running a shield and running solo 🙂

[stiff jasper]

I understand what you talking about but your explain are superficial

Why immune bleed after 3 times reload, because "diminishing", not because "reload 3 times"
In case I have some hazard like 30 or 50 or 70, or I got bleeding such as trueson specific ammo ,before I reload backfire, then the number of reload could be 1 or 2

[subtle bluff]

We do not need to repeat ourselves.

[rich lotus]

Can anybody tell me if Umbra is still broken?

[thorny kernel]

Would it be worth it to use ouroboros with the brand set that increases mag size by 50% on 3 pieces?

also which brand was that again?

[subtle bluff]

for fun sure for real dps no.

the spreadsheet if you to find it.

[thorny kernel]

Is Hunter's Fury good for a shotgun build with Scorpio?

[patent fossil]

Yes. Common build would be ceska intimidate chest and memento backpack with 4pc hunters fury.

[thorny kernel]

Gotcha

What skills would be best? I'd probably go with Reinforcer and Crusader but I'm not sure

[patent fossil]

Crusader or striker shield, second skill is up to you, revive hive is popular, banshee pulse, artificer hive, etc

[thorny kernel]

I'm just gonna try some and see what fits best to my playstyle

[hexed steppe]

looking a lot better than previous setups we talked about. i see unstoppable force mentioned for highend talent, wicked is also good and synergizes with the disorient status. memento also fits here, especially if you use the firewall shield. memento is 2 free skilltiers for shield, and the efficiency from memento also grants shield 30% skill health (aka shield heath).
all in all, looking good 👍

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[unkempt shell]

Mmmmm why unstoppable

[hexed steppe]

Probably suggested as alternative to vigilance because it doesnt deactivate when you take damage. Personally I would wicked or memento but all 3 are solid choices.

[pastel basin]

For the control point farming sniper build, what sniper does the most amount of damage then? I’ve been using the white death with dttoc and one shotting everything but I was just wondering what other sniper does more since I want to carry some of my friends as well in xp farming, it’s just that I can’t consistently one shot the bosses when there’s 3 or 4 players.

Also, does the sniper signature weapon go through armor? I haven’t tried it yet,

[thorny kernel]

How's this?

https://buildstation.app/td2/builder/game/yr1tLNnW

[thorny kernel]

"Shots penetrate through all but the heaviest armored targets."

Copied from the wiki

[patent fossil]

Nemesis is really the only mmr that will do enough damage to one shot bosses in 4 player scaling, although you could maybe use Achilles pulse (especially if overcharged by something) to give you a big damage amp for one shot

[thorny kernel]

Achilles pulse?

[patent fossil]

If you have enemies lined up in a row you can one shot them, but in practice it doesn't happen often

It doesn't go through armour plating like helmets though

[patent fossil]

The skill you get from the Faye Lau manhunt mission

[hexed steppe]

All the bolt mmr are able to hit a really high damage number. The only real difference is which one overkills more.
White death and model 700 both are top end. M700 carbon and sr1 are less damage but lot better QoL mod options. Handbasket also in in that group but a little lower damage .
M700 tac is ok but severely limited mods so not suggested

[vestal ibex]

1886 is still probably the best sniper in the game currently if you are solo farming.

[thorny kernel]

Is that mission still available?

[thorny kernel]

Ironically that's not even an MMR lmao

[patent fossil]

All the legacy manhunt missions are available. For that one just to camp white oak and toggle mission mode until it becomes active.

[vestal ibex]

😉

[thorny kernel]

Awesome, thanks

[vestal ibex]

There is also a manhunt mission tab when you open the map you can use too.

[thorny kernel]

On that note, which missions do drop a new skill(variant)?

[thorny kernel]

Ah okay, I'll keep that in mind

[patent fossil]

Hornet (tidal basin), Jupiter (Roosevelt island), Schaeffer (Coney Island Amusement Park), and Lau

[thorny kernel]

I do remember that Theo Parnell drops the Decoy but other than that idk

[vestal ibex]

NY manhunts all give one.

[spiral urchin]

Vivian conley = fire sticky bomb
James dragov = regular sticky bomb
Theo parnell = decoy
Javier kajika = shock trap

Bardon schaffer gives explosive trap, hornet gives healing trap and faye lau gives achilles pulse

[hazy steeple]

The 4 that Kettle listed are the OG four Season Pass Manhunts.

[spiral urchin]

Don't rember what jupiter gives

I forgor 💀💀💀

[thorny kernel]

I think its the Repair trap

[spiral urchin]

No, that's hornet

So it's jupiter = emp sticky

[hazy steeple]

EMP Sticky is from Roosevelt Island.
Repair Trap is from Tidal Basin.
Achilles Pulse is from White Oak (Lau's version).```

[thorny kernel]

Kay, mixed that up then lol

[spiral urchin]

It happens, lel

[thorny kernel]

Anyways how does this look?

https://buildstation.app/td2/builder/game/yr1tLNnW

[vestal ibex]

idk about the weapon choices, HF with memento/intimidate is good but an auto weapon would probably be really good vs the 1886.

[thorny kernel]

What kind of auto weapon would you suggest?

[vestal ibex]

Ripped right from the build guide.

lol no SMG-9 on the list.

[thorny kernel]

Tbh i was looking for something usable at longer distances, that's why i put 1886 there lol

[vestal ibex]

I would get in the mindset of having a mark overtop of everyone's head you are shooting so being within 15m is your goal with this build.

If you do not have a majority of your fights at this range it's just not a good set to run.

Most of your damage comes from HF proxy buff and intimidate meaning you need bonus armor from picking up trophies, it's all just super synergistic.

[patent fossil]

No chatterbox on that list 😢
(I know it's hugely dependent on enemy healthpools but it's such a fun fun to use)

[thorny kernel]

Could i also use something like Lefty/Rock'n'Roll as secondary?

[vestal ibex]

Brazen/pummel ACS are crazy strong. I would just try out a bunch of different weapons and see what you like and what works for you.

[magic rapids]

is the exuro set any good for a burn themed build?

[onyx sage]

for most use cases, no. it's worse than eclipse

[stiff jasper]

I had see used by raid speedrun team

[onyx sage]

yeah it's used for the team buff because it's a 25% amp but general use it's not really good

[spiral urchin]

What are the best status effects builds, nowadays?

[vestal ibex]

Fire/foam EP. OD can be used and is pretty good to use as a DPS styled support with it's recent buff.

All of these builds are in the spreadsheets also.

[tulip gulch]

Hey yall just got the bluescreen. Should I go OD or HB? I have most pieces to make both builds work. Thanks

[patent fossil]

I vote OD

[hexed steppe]

OD. I pair it with carnage on od, no ammo issues either since free bleed ammo all the time

With this season bs also procs coils sometimes. It just takes a little work to get the crit right

[tulip gulch]

TY!!!

[hexed steppe]

Works with vigilance also, I prefer wicked tho

[tulip gulch]

I also prefer wicked, I have a tendency to be out in the open lol

[hexed steppe]

Clan vendor has perfect canarage this week too 😎

[solar sable]

i only care about a unicorn Sacrifice

[tulip gulch]

Is CHC more preferred than damage to armor ?

[hexed steppe]

Yes

Its either chc or rof on lmg

Chc makes the building a lot easier

[tulip gulch]

Gotcha and that’s for essentially all lmgs

[hexed steppe]

The above hits in the 1.1m range with bs , and around 1.4m on Carnage, but that also with modifiers and the buffs you get

Pretty much. I rerolled the bs I have to get the chc on them

[tulip gulch]

Oh ok..good thing I have 2 and I can fool around with that carnage from the vendor

[onyx sage]

backpack core is not optimized. point and laugh

[hexed steppe]

Yeah carnage is dope, the bluescreen is 200 rounds and a ton of handling. I make sure to get bleed ammo in both and after that a have 350 bleeds to work with before i need to apply any status.

Overdrive + gunner pulse is goated af

[hexed steppe]

Carry me pop pop

👴

[onyx sage]

I'm an average player, I can only carry myself and even then I fail

[ember crane]

does heartseakers pulse enemies or do i have to do that?

[thorny kernel]

Can the Tac-50 benefit from the achilles pulse?

[vestal ibex]

Everything can.

[vestal ibex]

Heartbreakers will pulse enemies on headshot as stated in the sets description.

[candid patio]

Currently running this.

All pieces of gear are weapon damage and critical chance.

I cannot seem to get my chance up above like 45% and when I do my crit damage is very low.

Can anyone help turn this into something

[cerulean smelt]

swap out the fenris chest for ceska

[peak moss]

Stupid question

But is there a talent that increases weapon damage against pulsed enemies

[cerulean smelt]

nah, the only stupid question is the ones not asked

[cerulean smelt]

there is Spotter

[peak moss]

I see

Already running obliterate

[cerulean smelt]

did i get the wrong talent?

oh right
Flatline on weapons

Amplifies weapon damage by 15% (20%) to pulsed enemies. After 4 (3) kills, applies pulse to the next enemy you hit.

spotter
Amplifies total weapon and skill damage by 15% (20%) to pulsed enemies.

[peak moss]

Oh so there is a talent for weapons

Guess I’ll have to go farm it for my library

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, that's my bad, thought spotter was the weapon talent honestly XD

but you were like "i've got obliterate" i was like uh it's a weapon talent, wait a sec! looks at sheet oh then found the weapon talent lol

[charred yew]

What do we think, Good build ? 🤔

[honest moss]

Should be good, looks solid. Maybe swap out the bag with striker bag and slot in coyottes or a grupo mask.

[violet juniper]

swap bag for striker bag and yes

[charred yew]

But then I will have no Armor Regen ?

[cerulean smelt]

you don't have armor regen anyways

oh maybe you do, but it's so small how is it going to save you?

[charred yew]

I SUCK!!! at this game and get killed VERY!!! FAST!!! 🤕

[honest moss]

Gunner has 10% armour on kill, with a dps setup you focus on killing fast so healing will take care of itself. Just play cover and don't rush straight in. Also reviver hive can be a godsend.

The armour regen minor attribute is borderline useless, anything not % based is too low usually

[charred yew]

Thanks!! I need to learn how to use the reviver hive

[honest moss]

Basically just equip it, you go down and it auto pops. No worries and good luck!

[subtle bluff]

change the 2nd to smg or acs12 it's not really needed but it can come in clutch when you're in of needing to reload.

[charred yew]

Took the new setup out for a test run and WOW!!! the bad guys went down FAST!!

[subtle bluff]

Are you over CHC cap? Change one of your stats from CHC to CHD.

[cerulean smelt]

probably CHC on elmo

[charred yew]

I think I'm just at the 60% cap

[subtle bluff]

You can take some off since you have coyotes or change coyote to exo or put on a grupo or the brandset that give AoK

[charred yew]

With Coyote bring CHC down and CHD up ?

This is the Grupo I have.

[subtle bluff]

Just use grupo to keep it simple imo

Coyote is more dmg if you min the CHC and CHD but it can depend.

[charred yew]

This is with the Grupo

[subtle bluff]

Take out one CHC stats to CHD to see. I don't have the numbers what you should be at.

[honest moss]

Does the 45% hive efficiency from birdies work on other forms of hive? My hives stats do not update and i know the item has been buggy since release.

[hexed steppe]

depending on watch , with elmo 50/150 is achievable iirc

[subtle bluff]

Yeah it isn't working from what some of us have tested with it.

[hexed steppe]

dont judge my m1a. i dont f with acs

[honest moss]

Eesh. Thanks, was wanting to try it out but will wait some more xD

[subtle bluff]

It use to be the way from I know when I first started div2.

I was thinking of writing up a starting up farm guide and starting how build DPS build.

[magic rapids]

m700 or white death?

[hexed steppe]

carbon for better quality of life mods, whitedeath is higher damage but has limited mod slots. both 1 shot tho. personally i use m700 carbon or sr1

[magic rapids]

what talent do you have on it?

the m700

[subtle bluff]

Not bad you want to change the Chest talent to Obliterate

[solar sable]

determined

[subtle bluff]

Make sure you Primary DMG weapons has DDToOC (Dmg to targets out of Cover) and get your CHC (Crit hit Chance) 50-54% then the rest into CHD (Crit hit Dmg)

[loud pine]

EP foam always good to have and its not really late game but i like having OD for countdown farming

[pseudo shard]

Heartbreaker/bluescreen with exodus gloves is also a good build really good for crowd control

And survivorbility

[subtle bluff]

And this one

[subtle bluff]

IMO ND is better and works well with it since bluescreen has no CHC or CHD on it.

[pseudo shard]

Yeah I guess

[dreamy grotto]

Bluescreen is just good, you take a build and slap there bluescreen, and you cant be wrong)

[sudden maple]

Hi guys. I've been grinding for the a week now, I was hoping to find the eagle bearer and the capacitor I. The Brooklyn caches unfortunately I have no luck. I've saw a video on YouTube that the is a high chance of getting them. Is it true or not?

[ember crane]

is bakers dozen better for close range than the classic m1a?

i only run m1a with ranger, feels right and too old to change

[honest moss]

The chances are actually very low and the capacitor is not in those caches. Can get it via summit by doing 5 challenges i believe.

So it is a 0.5% (1/200) for a raid then a 1/6 for the eb specifically (or any of them)

Worth noting that the bighorn, ouroboros and provocator are also from things not raids. So can be easier to obtain through other means.

[tawdry raven]

never been so insulted by getting the provocator as my 1 0.5% drop, did the master mission for nothing

big horns def worse to get than the provocator tho

[sterile shoal]

0.5% to get the raid exotic OUTSIDE the raid is crazy work

Don’t get me started on the bighorn grind😭

[shy willow]

Bakers dozen is trash

Lucky shot in general

[atomic trench]

is heartbreaker build still worth it?

[ember crane]

Me n my buddy are noobies, he runs it - its good, opens up some harder content and allows us to blast

[hexed steppe]

Yes, it's a solid set

Ceska mask(or knee, or holster, or glove] + memento

Or coyote mask + ceska vigilance bag.

4pc hb including heartbreaker chest

How I normally set it up

[thorny kernel]

I want to make a build for Dread Edict, do i go for a standard hotshot build?

I do have this, the chestpiece is Chainkiller

[magic pilot]

Dread is better as a crit weapon with aces imo

Perfect focus and perfect opportunistic

[near blade]

Any build advice to try and solo Master Kelso Manhunt?

[subtle bluff]

Striker memento

[subtle bluff]

Change BP to concussion.
When I use to run Hotshot I ran dread Edict has my backup. Just keep landing HS you don't have to reload and the buff keep going.

[thorny kernel]

Aight

that backpack was already tinkered with i think so i need to get a new one but i think that's doable

[subtle bluff]

You may want to first fix the build having everything to HSD

[magic pilot]

I remember when dread came out and all the YouTubers were freaking out over it

[subtle bluff]

I remember when I was noob but then watching tux use this ace8 back then but then I was Hotshot and dread is crazy. I just beam HS without reloading.

[honest moss]

4 piece striker, ceska intimidate, memento a good combo or am i better just running obliterate or even gc? Main weapon will be ouro. Also is 55% CHC, slightly too low or should i be fine?

[dreamy ferry]

Who can help me make a build

[thorny kernel]

What playstyle are you going for?

[dreamy ferry]

Any lol I do not care just won’t damage tbh

[magic pilot]

Good chc, it's solid for heroic

[honest moss]

Ty

[magic pilot]

I like intimidate personally

[dreamy ferry]

Any tbh just something good I would love a arma regen build

[magic pilot]

Not really any good regen builds for pve

It's more of a pvp thing

[hazy steeple]

I've got to know, what's an "arma regen" build?

[dreamy ferry]

Who can help me with a good build

[versed flame]

Armor and regeneration? Then it's minus damage.

[hazy steeple]

@dreamy ferry No one, because you keep on ignoring the answers you're given.

[dreamy ferry]

Oh

[cerulean smelt]

you know, regenerationg Arma game (> <)

[honest moss]

Well for red builds there strikers and hotshot (if you wanna snipe) for skills theres a big variety and well blues are less useful in pve but there are a few that stand out, namely foundry.

[dreamy ferry]

Wdym

[magic pilot]

^

[dreamy ferry]

How do I get striker set??

[hazy steeple]

I'm going to assume that there's a language barrier issue here.

[magic pilot]

Countdown

[dreamy ferry]

Oh

[magic pilot]

what are your skill keybinds? Num 1 and 2 ?

[honest moss]

Set the target loot to "striker's battle gear"

[dreamy ferry]

Striker drone

And give

Hive revive

[magic pilot]

Don't run striker drone in countdown

[versed flame]

eap!))

[dreamy ferry]

Kk idk how but il try digger it out

[magic pilot]

Interesting

[dreamy ferry]

What should I run

[magic pilot]

Do you use quick deploy skills too? @versed flame

[dreamy ferry]

What that

I’m really new

[magic pilot]

Dw about it

[hazy steeple]

@dreamy ferry You should try and speak in full sentences, it's very hard to understand what you are saying.

[dreamy ferry]

Sorry I’m dialectic

What icon do I pick for striker gear

[hazy steeple]

You're into investigating the truth of opinions?

[dreamy ferry]

what icon do I pick ??????

For striker like what dose it look like

[honest moss]

@dreamy ferry See the blueish greenish colour? That symbol on those pieces

[dreamy ferry]

Found it I’m so sorry I can’t realy read

Really

[honest moss]

It is okay! But you want to copy that screenshot basically. Will be good to go for almost anything!

[dreamy ferry]

Can y send agen the screen shot pls

[hazy steeple]

@dreamy ferry I'm going to say this publicly for the record. Do anything like that again and you are gone.

[dreamy ferry]

Like what ?

?????

[hazy steeple]

Your actions on this server are logged.
Now go to the spreadsheet like I told you 10 minutes ago and make your build.

[dreamy ferry]

Kk

How I get blue gear

[cerulean smelt]

ohh, so far i haven't gotten that side of rivens coming out

[magic pilot]

It's just colorblind mode @dreamy ferry

Green and blue is the same

[dreamy ferry]

Oh ok

How I get that mask ass well

I’m so sorry I meant as

[versed flame]

countdown!

[brisk crescent]

U can find plenty of how to videos on youtube, they will explain everything to new ppl. Recommend u do that

[dreamy ferry]

Ok
Tyssm

[brisk crescent]

And for the future. Both here on discord and everywhere else in life. U only use one ? Or other signs. Else ppl will ignore u

[honest moss]

Any recommended high end LMGs with 100 or higher mag? I was thinking the regular version of the carnage but i forgot the guns name. Oops.

Negev?*

[cerulean smelt]

sounds about right

[magic pilot]

M249 or mk46

Imo

[honest moss]

Alright ty, will have a look at those!

[magic pilot]

I like the m249 because it's the pestilence base, a couple of my clan members prefer the mk46 though

[cerulean smelt]

couldn't the GR9 be in there since it gives more mag size?

[magic pilot]

It's kinda mid now

[cerulean smelt]

i honestly haven't been a fan of the gun anyways aside the exotic Bluescreen

[magic pilot]

Wat

That's not gr9 is it??

[cerulean smelt]

thought it was?

oh stoner

what's the GR9?

[subtle bluff]

Really low rpm but not bad on WD.

Bluescreen is the stoner.

[versed flame]

MG 5

[cerulean smelt]

ah ok, from pictures alone the GR9 and Bluescreen looks similar to me anyways so i thought bluescreen was a GR9

[versed flame]

Someone explain the beauty of it bluescreen??I mean, he's pathetic

[magic pilot]

Small mag

[versed flame]

100

with the talent- almost continuous buff

[magic pilot]

What talent?

It's 50 base, 50 with gunner mag?

[versed flame]

But if it's 200, the buff is only enough for 86 bullets, and then, alas.

[magic pilot]

Wat buff

[hexed steppe]

need to be built correct to make it good. "garbage in garbage out" as they say.
bs is great on OD

[versed flame]

frenzy

[magic pilot]

Ahh

[versed flame]

It's just that with a 200-round clip, there's only enough for 85-90, and the rest you have to shoot the rest! And with a 100-round clip, there's a buff for almost the whole belt.

Not bad either

[versed flame]

Well, just to me, it's a weapon for a sapport build.

not dd!

[cerulean smelt]

OD is where i use it currently

[versed flame]

OD?

[hexed steppe]

ongoing directive

[cerulean smelt]

you know you set an npc on status effects, get some hollow point bullets that makes them bleed and rarely touch your ammo

[versed flame]

Ah! Got it. Yeah, I agree, it's a good place to be.

[hexed steppe]

triggers coils a lot too.

plus it gives me an excuse to get more handling on carnage. both are pretty balanced concerning crit

[worn mango]

Man, I don't know what it is but I cannot shoot the Carnage

I feel anytime I use it I'm just whiffing

[unkempt shell]

Question

Would coyote mask work with four part ongoing directive and pesti lmg

[hexed steppe]

see above

[unkempt shell]

Just curious

[worn mango]

Pesti is wasted with OD

[silver kindle]

Just come back to the game after a long time of not playing, whats good and whats not? gonna need a bit of help as i feel so weak now haha. if anyone is able to help

[unkempt shell]

What if I change the back to ongoing directive

[hexed steppe]

pesti ok on od tbh. its just not as good as carnage

but... carnage is available right now at the clan vender

[unkempt shell]

I am using carnage

Dam 70 crit dps

With mask on oh boy

[hexed steppe]

screenshot plz

[worn mango]

For me I'd still rather just use Lexi with Sadist. The feel is unmatched

[unkempt shell]

I know I need the bag for four part bonus

[versed flame]

3 parts?

[hexed steppe]

swap ceska to your bag and od the knee

[unkempt shell]

I’m getting the four part

Why ceska

[worn mango]

Backpack is wasted for OD

[hexed steppe]

crit chance

[unkempt shell]

Why

?

[hexed steppe]

why you have it there currently

come on bro

[unkempt shell]

True

Need to farm for it now

[hexed steppe]

yup

[unkempt shell]

Don’t need to swap

I have ceska kneepads

[hexed steppe]

you do if you dont want to kill your build

[hexed steppe]

od bag is trash, and you need to fill one spot with od

[unkempt shell]

Why not the bag then

[hexed steppe]

so, youre losing a knee or mask

[unkempt shell]

Mmmm mask

Then I lose half the crt dps

[hexed steppe]

🤦‍♂️

[unkempt shell]

How many more days to the new dlc

[hexed steppe]

anyone have a link to TD2 builds for dummies book? i want to gift it 😂

[unkempt shell]

I see so many builds on YouTube by YouTube who don’t know what to do so it a little hard OK

[hexed steppe]

im poking fun. its my MO

[unkempt shell]

Ok

[hexed steppe]

for your best possibly damage on od it is with a ceska vigilance/wicked bag, coyote mask, rest 4pc od

[unkempt shell]

Uhhhh

What is a wicked bag

[hexed steppe]

its not worth keeping turmoil if doing so leaves you without vigilance

talent

just stick with vigilance... baby steps today

[unkempt shell]

Ok

[cerulean smelt]

i think local needs to make a Division 2 For Dummies book and sell it at $0.99 per (> <)

[hexed steppe]

i would be rich at half that price 😆

[unkempt shell]

My smg build it can handle ok I guess lol

[magic pilot]

Don't change smg build

[unkempt shell]

Ohh

[magic pilot]

Not everything needs the turdshit knees

[unkempt shell]

Did I make it into a diamond build

[hexed steppe]

that works. you always want the bag talent 👍

[magic pilot]

I mean turmoil

[unkempt shell]

So the build is diamond then right

Good fantastic ass sniffing good

[cerulean smelt]

these are extremely bugged by the way

[hexed steppe]

autocorrect FTW!

[unkempt shell]

Oh why ?

[magic pilot]

Yea.... autocorrect

[unkempt shell]

How much crt damage can a build have ??

[magic pilot]

Way too much to be good

[hexed steppe]

no limit on damage, chance is capped at 60% tho

[unkempt shell]

177 crt damage

[cerulean smelt]

no clue, part of it is the 50% transfer isn't exactly 50% and when you're 1 on 1 it's still 50% when it should go 100%

[unkempt shell]

I know crt chance needs upgrading

[magic pilot]

Basically things like glass cannon, dmg to armor etc apply twice

[unkempt shell]

Aka the chest

[magic pilot]

I mean that's pretty good

[unkempt shell]

Or should I leave it when i upgrade the cheat

Chest

[magic pilot]

I would try to hit closer to 60 for smg

But 53 is not bad

[hexed steppe]

yeah, thats good . anywhere 50-60 chance is solid

[unkempt shell]

Ok i just need to upgrade the chest chance on it

[cerulean smelt]

just don't go over the 60%

[unkempt shell]

I know lol

Anyone wanna run farm on d2

[hexed steppe]

#lfg-xbox

[unkempt shell]

Awww

[hexed steppe]

most in chat atm are pc

[cerulean smelt]

most of these channels are a mix of PS, XBOX and PC players so asking to for group activities doesn't really work in these channels and like local said most will probably be PC players

[silver kindle]

probably really bad but anything i can do to make it better?

[unkempt shell]

Is it bad I want dark winter to have a 50 round mag

[cerulean smelt]

lol extremely bad

[silver kindle]

thought so. havent played in like a year lmao

[magic pilot]

Check out the pinned google sheet

[cerulean smelt]

any reason you nerfed yourself with 5 gearset pieces with 2 different gear sets?

[hexed steppe]

i thought green meant go

[silver kindle]

no idea. i logged on yesterda getting ready for the dlc and this is how it was lmao

[hexed steppe]

start by swapping the chest and gloves to ceska/grupo and bag to striker

[subtle bluff]

Idk if anyone said but use wicked for OD for BP talents

[hexed steppe]

oblit or glass on the chest

[cerulean smelt]

thinking you read the descriptions of htem and thought "taht sounds cool!" and put it on

[silver kindle]

think it was the dmg thing you get on it 😂 that or i have 0 idea what i was thinking

[cerulean smelt]

rivens did, but said baby steps and the vigilence was a good start to baby stepping

[hexed steppe]

who 🤔

[subtle bluff]

uh oh

[cerulean smelt]

well, i thought it was rivens

[silver kindle]

these?

[silver kindle]

that is a lot damm

[subtle bluff]

You're asking a lot so I just gave all the answer at once.

[cerulean smelt]

the reason teh chest is because striker chest brings yoru stacks to 200 max which in most content you don't get and it's hard getting chc 50-60 with striker alone

[silver kindle]

gonna have to work to gunner then

[hexed steppe]

those work. you can have a lot of peices be whatever, but youll want highjend chest at minimum. with or without coyote, and striker bag

[silver kindle]

are these in a certain location or anywhere?

[subtle bluff]

To loot?

[silver kindle]

yeah

[subtle bluff]

I just started to make this but there.

More reading for all your questions

[silver kindle]

so much reading haha

[subtle bluff]

Too much typing for us.

[silver kindle]

haha i bet!

[subtle bluff]

https://youtu.be/67BKp4dPlIQ?
Video I gues works but this doesn't help you on the farming part.

[cerulean smelt]

costs $0.99 per share? (> <)

[silver kindle]

One question. for this is it saying 2 of that mod?

[magic pilot]

This does not look like google doc

[subtle bluff]

it is...lol

[magic pilot]

Bottom one is a mod top one is an attribute

[magic pilot]

I'm slow ignore me

[subtle bluff]

I use gDoc a lot.

[silver kindle]

ahh okay

[silver kindle]

the coyotes mask where do you get that from?

[versed flame]

the countdown, or the TC Jeffersonian mission.

[silver kindle]

is there a thing i can make it be the targeted drop? im not seeing the sysmbol

[versed flame]

or just out in the world, exotic boxes.

in the countdown? masks

[silver kindle]

oh i just put it to masks and hope?

[versed flame]

eup

[silver kindle]

alr thanks

[magic rapids]

is there a noticable difference between the m700 brands?

[magic pilot]

Yes

[magic rapids]

which one is the the best?

[magic pilot]

Dmg wise the wooden one

But I would just run white death

[magic pilot]

You are correct but it's going to get slapped by the mod

[kind crest]

haha dont worry its vondooms server im not worried😭🙏🏼

[magic pilot]

I mean the mod here will slap it

[kind crest]

ohh damn😫

[magic pilot]

Is that server still full of spammers and scams?

I left it awhile back

[kind crest]

no clue dont check on it often

[magic pilot]

Send me an invite

[kind crest]

ill do mister mod a favor and get it out of here to save him some work lol

[kind crest]

gotchu

[magic pilot]

🫡

Dm lol

[cerulean smelt]

omg, yeah some people no matter how much you explain things just don't learn

[thorny solstice]

Google: iKia's build collection and tools
There is google table with all the data, its super useful.
Quick answer: here aint much difference between bolt-action marksmanrifles.
It comes down to the build and quality of life.
For me its SRS Covert. All accuracy mods, no long scope.
Covert is shorter, so its easier to use indoors.

[kind crest]

lmao yea, tried to explain everything to him and then he tried to twist my words when he realised he was wrong🫠😅

[cerulean smelt]

imagine trying to explain to someone "melee builds are crap" it's not pve, ok players will shoot you and down you before you get in melee range "i'll shoot back and i'm good at dodging" 🤦

think they're still working on getting a claws out for this build

[kind crest]

yea lmaoo exactly sometimes its just not even worth explaining it to people, but in public servers i just dont want other people to read the wrong advice and then go off of that

i dont understand those players, its nice to learn imo but their egos are just too big i guess

[cerulean smelt]

they also kept spouting out percentages claws out, bloody knuckels lady death is 1k% melee damage oh booster hive gives melee damage
showed them a picture and said yeah it says in description but the things under it doesn't say anything about boosting melee damage

in their mind "melee build is slept on" i'm like people tried it and it failed that's why there are no current Melee builds in game

[kind crest]

even with 1k% its honestly still too low😕 would be kinda fun if we got a melee thing thats actually useful in the future, i guess shocker punch was headed into the right direction but idk, not worth to use it at all

[kind crest]

and yea booster doesnt affect your 100% right

[cerulean smelt]

didn't see anything in the percentages that it shows it does concernting melee damage so i think the tooltip in the description is wrong or if it's there, still not enough to make a difference

[kind crest]

i dont think it does it wouldnt make sense either imo but your right maybe we are overlooking something, i think dta and dtoc could affect it but i could be wrong on that

he will just have to find out the hard way i guess, if he doesnt wanna listen thats on him😅

[cerulean smelt]

told them for claws out can wait on wyvern or holster TL in dz and hope to get it or live in countdown and buy a crap ton of named caches

didn't hink of descent, not sure if that's a blueprint we can get there anyways?

[kind crest]

yea those are by far the best ways, its not really a worth using for much anyways

[kind crest]

im not entirely sure tbh😅 it could be yea but i dont know that much abt descent apart from the basics

[cerulean smelt]

all i know it felt like summit 2.0 but instead of ascending we descended
get to a certain part and we get a restructured or reconstructed blueprint which is some named item to craft on the bench
then we get currency i think we can spend it on the same thing but in a cache or something?

still haven't done it completely for all the blueprints. cant stomach the mode honestly, don't think running with 1-3 others could equal anymore fun in it so for now i don't bother XD

[kind crest]

ohh yea that i know but its only a certain pool of named blueprints you can get, and with every reconstructed cache you open you also get a regular named item thats seperate from the blueprint so theoretically that would be the best way for him to farm the holster if the blueprint also drops

[kind crest]

i wish descent could get some sort of quality of life update 😞 its such a fun gamemode but its so buggy and outdated

i love running it duo tbh, the enemies are easy to fight and its just nice to talk while playing and turning your brain off, it really depends on the talent pool on how fun it is tho imo

[cerulean smelt]

i found the mode completely boring, only reason i did it so much was for the exotic rifle

[kind crest]

ahh yea thats understandable, im only a fan of it with the wrath talentpool, others i dont bother to play either

and how is that rifle ? i never tried it but it honestly doesnt seem worth it to get it

[cerulean smelt]

no clue, only got it for collection purposes. you know having 1 of each exotic to say i got it

[kind crest]

haha honestly with that rifle i feel like its kinda its only purpose, the talent is sort of like a worse achilles i think

[cerulean smelt]

don't use it fo r the same reason i don't like diamond back
randomly selected target? no thanks

[kind crest]

yea exactly i dont like it either, ive seen it used in iron horse oneshots tho that does look pretty fun

[cerulean smelt]

not a fan of rifles either, but since the auto change trying a few out here and there
1886 is fun with determined though lol

can't get used to the harmony rifle being auto

[kind crest]

the change to them being full auto feels so wrong for some reason lol, the recoil just adds up weirdly, especially on the rav for example, really weird to control on controller, idk how it is on pc tho😅

and yea the 1886 is really fun with determined 😄

[cerulean smelt]

i tried merciless and was like yeah no, still one shotting things because it kicks too much

[dreamy grotto]

just slap 3pcs of zwiadowka, or eagles grasp + sharpshooter, its enough to handle the Rav

[kind crest]

idk i prefer to not waste any stats on weapon handling😅 i lose so much damage id rather just be more careful with shooting

unless its for oneshot builds i dont use weapon handling much tbh but maybe im just missing out idk lol

[dreamy grotto]

well, ravenous still require dedicated build, if you plan to use it as a main weapon

if it just for chungas tho its not worth it, yeah

[kind crest]

i just hotswap to it from sweet dreams/scorpio if im using my pfe tank but i rarely use it anymore

and yea mainly for chungas or just for a shitload of bonus armor

[dreamy grotto]

yeah, then no need to bother)

btw merciless follow same rules

3pcs zwia or eagles grasp is enough)

[cerulean smelt]

eh i dunno, pressing to fire and releasing to fire again i think it'll be extremely slow to use it to keep it from jumping all over XD

[dreamy grotto]

How to use merciless:

Step 1: get 93r pistol
Step 2: shoot it for 5 minutes in range

done, merciless feel ok to use now
xD

but if no jokes, it just need you to find its rythm

[cerulean smelt]

shrugs i only tried to see if it was auto but was like ok nope, and only remember long long time ago it was used to delete warhounds

[kind crest]

on controller i cant put my sens high enough to counter for it tho lol, everything feels so incredibly slow with recoil control on rifles

[kind crest]

i think its still good but i refrain from using it, saw someone hitting crazy numbers on lovebirds with it 🙂 if i remember correctly like 20mil but couldve been 10mil

[subtle bluff]

To deal with kick you need about 45 WH

20mill on it's boom shot.

[dreamy grotto]

I generally play with rav, just slapped merciles 2 or 3 times, so no real dmg testing done, but recoil - recoil is ok))

[kind crest]

in my opinion then its just not hitting hard enough anymore, better to use something else that wouldnt need weapon handling right ? 45 seems like u would lose a lot of chc/chd

[subtle bluff]

I had a Merciless build for fun a long time ago need NBB to make work.

Umber Chest Fox's either another Overlord

[cerulean smelt]

my thoughts too. lose this much damage for control? no thanks XD

[subtle bluff]

and Sharpshooter was all the WH you need

[kind crest]

ohh yea the rav has a little less kick right ? im not entirely sure how much kick the merciless has, havent used it much

[subtle bluff]

this well over year ago I did this

[kind crest]

nbb ? that that doesn't result in a damage loss kinda surprises me😅 but you probably also had it for the wh ?

[dreamy grotto]

Idk, on my build rav explode with like 10-14 mil damage, and merciles for like 6... But i have godrolled rav, and non optimized merciless, so idk really)

[subtle bluff]

It's fun build nothing to do amazing dps but it was used well enough in heroic CD

You would be full auto speed shooting with Umbra and recoil wasn't there.

[shy willow]

Yeah the recoil ain't it

[kind crest]

6 to 10-14 is too big of a difference for optimization to do anything i think but i guess its preference and the availability of the guns, some players dont have rav so i guess merciless is the cheapmans rav

[dreamy grotto]

Yeah, also merciless allow shield usage

So less damage for more... Survivability?)

[kind crest]

yea shoulderswapping is still kinda funky with shields and in some cover places

[kind crest]

lmaoo i believe you😭 even on normal rifles it can jump a good amount already

[dreamy grotto]

Idk - do merciless explosion follow the same rules as rav? Like explosion damage dont buff it, etc, etc?

[kind crest]

im not really sure all i know for rav is that the explosions are very crit oriented

so it would make sense in my head that the merciless follows the same rules but this game never disappoints with breaking my brain

[dreamy grotto]

Rav yeah, coz there is crit counter for every primer, and there are like 20 of them, so you want crit as much as possible

But i meant, that explosion damage doesnt buff rav at all - demo, china light, grupo.

Does merciless the same?)

[cerulean smelt]

what i remember the merciless when it exploded just did pure health damage to warhounds so it wa sused for those moments, then they patched it and merciless was just something that you have but sat in the stash

[kind crest]

yea it might be the same but for some reason my brain is telling me otherwise, maybe i vaguely remember something that explosion damage does affect it, ill try to search for it one sec

should purely be buffed by weapon damage i think, cant trust it till i tried it out tho so dont take my word for it lol

[cerulean smelt]

i feel i've tried china and 2 grupo with demo and felt it lacking in explosion damage

[kind crest]

are you playing rn ? could u maybe test it with crits or something

[cerulean smelt]

nah, not playing atm

semi conserving energy for brooklyn release but maybe jumping on for particular things or at the time i was grinding them brooklyn caches hoping to get a picture of a raid/incursion exotic in it and then turn it into a component (> <)

[kind crest]

haha yea ive seen so many pics of the exotics dropping but for me its still a myth i guess, would go into my stash to collect dust anyways aswell

[cerulean smelt]

my brain couldn't comprehend 13% protection from elites. was clearing out my 2nd account stash wait 13% PFE?! WTF?!?!?!?!

main account stuck to 11% and 12%

[kind crest]

😭😭the game really doesnt like you thats insane, i havent seen one once, my gf managed to snatch one from a hyena chest but also stuck at one

does it increase the dropchance after you get one ? i dont think it does does it ?

[dreamy grotto]

naah, demo doesnt buff the rav at all

[kind crest]

maybe things like chc/chd ? if its anything like the rav that should increase the damage dramatically

[cerulean smelt]

can't say as i haven't been trying to get another on the account
no reason so far to need it

[dreamy grotto]

yes, chc\chd, vigilance, obliterate. even striker stacks now buff it - but with striker its hella uncontrollable)

[cerulean smelt]

nods think that's the point i was making. using china/grupo/demo didn't seem to increase the explosive damage at all

[kind crest]

apparently before nyc released it did influence it but they decided to just make the gun useless i guess

[dreamy grotto]

gosh, i just tried merciless with striker, and it shoots almost like with speed of automatic weapon xD

[kind crest]

i can imagine doing backflips if u have full momentum aswell lol

recoil would be off the charts

[dreamy grotto]

well, it goes, but not so hard as rav, rav with full momentum and striker is uncontrollable

[kind crest]

😭need to try that lol

[timber dagger]

I just got EB yesterday what build can i build around it for dz. I have striker oreo for pve

[subtle bluff]

EB has been mostly replace by BH for PvP. There's a #td2-pvp-discussions maybe better in there.

[sullen sun]

Newb question but if I have the laser but not flatline but I have spotter am I still proc’ng spotter?

[bright raptor]

yes

[subtle bluff]

Yes. Laser pointer Pulse the target. Then Spotter is hitting a pulse target

[bright raptor]

can always try testing with and without the laser on the infinite HP target

[grand condor]

Does bonus armor like from armor on kill or heartbreaker set add to the shields HP? E.g does the shield count as armor

[subtle bluff]

All are different.

[grand condor]

Se regen och shield hp is things like skill tier etc?

[subtle bluff]

On your armor bar.
Armor is white. AoK only gives to that armor.
Blue is Bonus and is only generated through talents and is on top of anything else. Hence Bonus Armor.
Shield is a Skill in turn it has teirs and has its own HP bar above your armor bar.

[hexed steppe]

your shield will scale if you use memento, skill efficiency gives it a lot. you can also use tech class artificer hive which will heal your shield without dropping it. every 10 seconds artificer sends out a drone while still on back.

[tawdry raven]

does expertising the artificer help that? it just says tech efficiency which is kinda vague

[thin gull]

Anyone know how this guys build works? He had big horn and ninjabike backpack with full armor, but he also had full damage somehow too?

Like all his pieces were armor but he had maxed out damage in brackets

[cerulean smelt]

ninjabike backpack is usually frowned upon because you lose a backpack talent that could equal more damage in a build which is pretty big in comparison of getting a 2nd/3rd/4th piece of whatever you build with it

[livid bridge]

sooo is ninjabike worth it or not? was debating on a high end build with it? or 3 piece heartbreaker, 2 piece striker

[cerulean smelt]

if you want people to laugh at you go for it, especially if you come back posting a picture of it and ask how do i get more damage out of this

[quartz ermine]

for some it is for others it is not

[livid bridge]

currently running a 3 red core, 3 blue core heartbreaker build with coyote and a cezka holster

[quartz ermine]

it depends on what you want to do

[thin gull]

Here's what he was using, look at his damage and shield tho, how do you get that?

[cerulean smelt]

nods but like i said with ninjabike backpack you lose a backpack talent and that nerfs your whole build in general
so yes, you come back with a picture of a build an ask how do i get more damage out of this?
first thing people will say
lose ninjabike

[thin gull]

Okay so no one knows how he has full shields but full damage as well?

[cerulean smelt]

clearly pvp build, which is out of my knowledge aside knowing it's PVP, doesn't slook like it'd give damage aside the bighorn doing the carrying of the build

[thin gull]

Maybe it's big horn, idk what it's perk is tho

[quartz ermine]

jesus man I told you to google "the division 2 bighorn" and see for yourself :)))

[bold leaf]

Yes it's a hazard protection, Bighorn pvp build

[thin gull]

Lol I didn't see you say that

[thin gull]

Thank you appreciate it

[cerulean smelt]

was wondering, all i coudl see was 3 gila for armor regen, not sure what 2 belstone does, but assuming armor regen, then the cav was figuring haz pro, then the 2 ceska is definitley haz pro

[thin gull]

Is that all big horn does is get more damage when it's semi auto?

[bold leaf]

Belstone is 1% armour regen,10% AOK, Gila will give armour, health and 2% regen, cavalier adds 30% haz pro, ceska 8% chc and 20% haz pro

A real easy way to hit 100% haz pro

[cerulean smelt]

big horn is an AR that you need to do headshots with, you scope in and it hits probably something close to an Auto MMR, never liked the gun so it's in the stash

[thin gull]

Yeah i don't know what he would be using to take points from him armor and put it into dmg then

[quartz ermine]

as long as you hit the head, yeah

[cerulean smelt]

just read alot on this server and another BIghorn PVP is the current meta

[bold leaf]

Bighorn adds huge damage if you can stack up headshots. So in PvP if you can hit your shots you can dish out a ton of damage and stay on your feet with all that armour and regen

[cerulean smelt]

think others run with name escapes me for exotic mask where you take damage you drop a healing pool like a chem launcher hit you and erases status effect but you get more damage from it

[bold leaf]

Catharsis

[thorny solstice]

If you want damage, high armor and regen then go with:
4-piece Strikers with armorcore (chestpiece, backpack)
Catharsis exotic mask
1-piece Belstone for armor regen, or use whatever item u want.

Try to get at least 55CHC
6-blue cores = strong crusader shield
Use whatever AR u like. I go with Bighorn or St.Elmos mainly. Doesnt really matter.

[cerulean smelt]

thanks, was like i should know it, but nothing coming to mind XD

[thin gull]

I'll check it out, I still gotta find those guns sadly

Also catharsis too, there's a few things I'm missing lol

[cerulean smelt]

think an alphabridge with first sight would change this?

[thorny solstice]

Dont get too hyperfocused on those.
Im using highend/named AR-s all the time.
Dmg difference aint that huge to worry about it too much.

[thin gull]

Is catharsis a raid item or can you get it anywhere?

[bold leaf]

Unlikely

[thorny solstice]

tbh, i havent even checked what those new items do. Living in the moment 😄

[thorny solstice]

general loot pool

[cerulean smelt]

anywhere mask target loot, usually countdown is the suggested route since the sheer amount of loot and then the currency buying exotic caches

[thin gull]

Okay sweet thanks

[thorny solstice]

This is the way

[cerulean smelt]

any reason behind it?

[bold leaf]

First sight isn't very good

[cerulean smelt]

even with a high headshot damage on it? shame

[bold leaf]

It has higher than base headshot damage yeah but it's still slow firing and very inaccurate, so I can't see it being popular even with Tinkerer

[thorny solstice]

Alphabridge will change up some metas for sure. 2 talents on highend will beat most exotics, dmgwise at least.

[cerulean smelt]

for me in general i couldn't figure out what 2 talents to use on it anyways so was like 'could be a game changer if one doesn't own a bighorn"?

[thorny solstice]

Bighorn is mainly CQB gun, its really hard to beam with it over longer distances.
In avgerage, st.elmos will outperform Bighorn, mainly bcs of its superior accuracy and control.
I use both, depending on mission. Dmg doesnt count, if u miss the shots.

[bold leaf]

I tested it quite thoroughly on the PTS and honestly I think the biggest positive is being able to add utility talents - so preservation for example

[cerulean smelt]

tell me about it
after pts closed i was like
OH MY, hunter's fury, Mop with perservation and another shot gun with pummel
could equal a hard to down agent!

[bold leaf]

Not sure if it works with The Mop. It's supposed to not work with named weapons but Lexington was an exception. Handbasket didn't and that's also named with a non-perfect talent. So who knows

Overall though it adds another layer of build diversity, which is only a good thing

[cerulean smelt]

nods think they just put "Named Items" but mostly referring to "Named Perfect Talented Weapons"
imagine Perfect Streamline with normal streamline? thing would be a monster

[gritty ermine]

looking for a good SMG build

[dreamy grotto]

i latelly really like heartbreaker smg\shotgun hybrid,

with 4pcs hb
vigil backpack
centurion scabbard
acs with brazen
and vector with whatever you want

i play with 3b3r. but possibly any combo is ok

[wet nimbus]

Is refactor any good?

[cerulean smelt]

tried it, wasn't too impressed with it, but that's me
probably builds around it with skill damage, don't bother with skill repair as it probably won't even work

[pastel basin]

Honestly you should try it out for yourself, I went into a legendary mission with a bunch of randoms that had 3 refractors and I changed my build to a full on dps and no one died, bosses got melted, I can’t even remember if any of our armors even broke and we finished the entire mission in 22 minutes

Just make sure you get full yellow cores, no blues for most amount of dps, no need for more survivability

[cerulean smelt]

techinican would allow 1 blue though 🤔

[pastel basin]

Oh yeah you right :0

And run both the striker drone and the turret and then you’re fine

[wet nimbus]

Alright cool. Thanks for the help you two

[boreal void]

Good build for Hunters?

[placid lion]

Been ages since I’ve used the Ravenous. What build would complement it best?

[solar sable]

any dps, I've dealt with them with just foam chem and sometimes emp sticky

[boreal void]

Thank you finally finished the master with my dps

[atomic trench]

is it bad to have some armor when you solo a lot?

or should i purely focus dps?

[cerulean smelt]

the beauty of the game?
play how you like but just know if you come here with an atrocious build and ask "how do i get more damage?" at least try it out without butting heads about things

[onyx sage]

it depends on your experience

[atomic trench]

atm i run this

[cerulean smelt]

are you living for the most part? you having fun?

[onyx sage]

what's the blue mod on the mask

whatever it is, it's not worth having

[cerulean smelt]

i'm guessing armor on kill

[onyx sage]

some blue cores is fine but blue mods are rarely worth it

[atomic trench]

protection from elites, i forgot to change it out for a quest where i got one shot every time

[onyx sage]

small amounts of pfe aren't worth it

it's only worth when you stack up a lot

[atomic trench]

i used to have build where armor restacked which was actually nice

[versed flame]

Throw that machine gun away, it doesn't work with the talent.

or, uh, launch a drone to illuminate the target, or a skill.

[subtle bluff]

You can't target loot Catharsis, it is not in the general loot pool. At first just caches.

[alpine escarp]

Does the restorer hive heal the shield without deploying it? Like the way the artificer hive works?

[thorny kernel]

Is Cold Relations worth it for something like a Striker build?

[versed flame]

a mask?

[thorny kernel]

Just in case someone doesn't know, its a named PP-19 with Perfect Strained

[subtle bluff]

no

[onyx sage]

you mean without deploying the shield or without deploying the hive? cuz artificer doesn't heal a holstered shield

[alpine escarp]

Without deploying the hive

[onyx sage]

then no, that's the artificer's unique trait

[hexed steppe]

from what i understand,

• tech efficiency will improve the artificer specific buffs to your skills (skill damage, skill duration, skill repair)
• note that this is not the same as skill efficiency (which is all skill attributes).

i may be missing an attribute thats affected by tech efficiency, im sure someone will add to this if thats the case.

[tawdry raven]

so it does influence shield repair nice

[hexed steppe]

yeah. on top of that memento pushes those numbers much further. when i use memento on a tier4 car door, tier 3 artificer, it starts out repairing 48% , but then when memento is stacked that improves to around 58%-60%.
shield also scales up from memento too, in that build it goes from 9mil health to around 12mil health

[thorny kernel]

Tf is a car door lmao

[hexed steppe]

memento/tech/artificer is a pretty potent combo with a really low investment cost

[hexed steppe]

bulwark shield

[thorny kernel]

Oh lol

[hexed steppe]

tech class can also be set to repair instead of damage and squeeze a little more out of the artificer

[subtle bluff]

Another variant I use run was Motherly Love on top of those.

[hexed steppe]

nice

[gritty ermine]

can i survive decent with this?

[atomic trench]

what if i run lmg with heartbreaker

[subtle bluff]

It's more of playstyle than a just a build.

[subtle bluff]

It's a bad LMG in geneal.

[solar sable]

heartbreaker is basically the survive with a bit of dmg set

[atomic trench]

i like the 200 mag, but could go with quiet roar instead?

[subtle bluff]

If it takes you 100 rounds to kill something vs something else that takes 40 what's better?

[dreamy grotto]

idk, i dont play it)

[subtle bluff]

If mag size was king then we'd all be using Bullet King but we don't for reasons.

[atomic trench]

dare works well with pulse

[subtle bluff]

ok?

Then use it. I'm just giving out the facts and reasons.

[atomic trench]

what lmg's are gopod or are there none?

[subtle bluff]

It depends.

[dreamy grotto]

Blue screen is good, Pestilence is ok, General gr9 is good, Carnage is good

[subtle bluff]

I love both my Iron Lung and Pesti.

m249 is actually good with MG5. Finding a talent that works them and your playstyle maybe harder.

[atomic trench]

gr9 with which skill then?

[subtle bluff]

GR9 rather bad actually on the DPS charts on all 3 fronts

[dreamy grotto]

game not only about having highest dps

[dreamy grotto]

idk, i used with sadist in OD build, but then just switchet to bluescreen, but in general gr9 leaves good feeling

[subtle bluff]

I did say all 3 charts... Burst DPS, Sustain and Mag Dmg..

[dreamy grotto]

ok, we got you bro

[subtle bluff]

I find fun in things being unalive faster than not.

[versed summit]

Fun is subjective

[dreamy grotto]

thanks that you shared)

[subtle bluff]

What I am trying to get at that for a good weapon want to find good mix of all 3 types of DPS/Mags.

[atomic trench]

i mean lmg with higher rpm have lower dps which makes sense?

[versed summit]

Good in this context isn’t that subjective

[subtle bluff]

I've seen plenty of players hit a wall due trying to run a bad gun just due to knowledge of how DPS works with weapons.

[versed summit]

Not necessarily

[subtle bluff]

You're forgetting Base WD.

[atomic trench]

is supressed a status effect to?
cause rusty could be interesting then?

[subtle bluff]

You need a good mix of all WD, RPM and last Mag size.

[worn mango]

Lexington

[subtle bluff]

LMG supressed very well which isn't help a lot.

[versed summit]

No

[solar sable]

status effects are those that appear above the target's health/armor bar

[atomic trench]

also just dropped a second one of this with same max rolls, gave it to someone else in the party i was, is it even usefull for a build these days?

[subtle bluff]

Rifles imo are really good on OD builds atm.

[dreamy grotto]

yes. thats the point, and immrchow was forcing his opinion that only highest dps is "good"

[subtle bluff]

I'm sorry what? I mention 3 different dps and never said just "highest" dps.

[tulip charm]

The poor mans lexi

[subtle bluff]

Also was giving out facts because you can math or test it in general your DPS, sustiain and mag dmg.

[tulip charm]

💀

[main estuary]

help with my healer build

pls?

[tulip charm]

Just run FI

[main estuary]

what?

[subtle bluff]

FI Healer Build Guide

[tulip charm]

That

[main estuary]

ty 💔

idkkk i kinda like safegaurd

[subtle bluff]

Read guide

If you have more quesiton the full guide wil answer probably all of it

[main estuary]

i can almost guarantee it wont but thx anyway 💔

[atomic trench]

trying this lmg now, goes through a mag so fast lmao

[versed summit]

But not pesti

[versed summit]

Well you can always ask questions here anyway

[versed summit]

You just don’t need that much heals. Damage support is more valuable

[main estuary]

i gotta disagree there. see, i fold under the tiniest bit of pressure especially when it comes to killing enemies. so i stick to stuff that doesn’t put me in that kind of spotlight but still brings value to the team. that’s where healer and sniper builds come in. both let others handle the front lines while i hang back, either keeping everyone alive or picking off targets from a distance.

[subtle bluff]

Read FI talent

[dreamy grotto]

its a not a standart build ppl used to run here, so what sort of help do you need?

[subtle bluff]

This is a game where we all shoot. There is no front or backline

[main estuary]

i hate ppl who think like that, yea we all have guns but we dont have to use them as much as everyone else. i ment as in skirmish or raids or countdown and any other pve mission

[hexed steppe]

Fi healer , btsu gloves, opportunistic bag, 4pc future initiative. Scorpio.
You give your team a ton of buffs with the heals

[main estuary]

whole team you say?😍

[main estuary]

im in. ill start farmong when my map targets it

[main estuary]

ORR I COULD DO A BUNCH OF CD (that totaly requires backline and frontline)

[main estuary]

that was directed twards you

[subtle bluff]

Just saying from experience, this game at the end game and pretty only in a group setting, I don't solo.

[main estuary]

neither do i

[subtle bluff]

Are you also saying we use tanks?

[hexed steppe]

Yeah, fiture is 25% wowal weapon damage for team. Opportunistic applies a mark that let's npc take increased damage from all sources, scorpio also does this

[main estuary]

huh?

[versed summit]

There’s a misunderstanding, I’m not telling you healers are bad, I’m saying you have enough heals with FI, so you don’t safeguard, and a damage support talent is more valuable, like opportunistic

[main estuary]

yea ofc what do you think foundry is for?

[versed summit]

We don’t use foundry, not outside of ih anyways

[subtle bluff]

There's no agro table in this game. The one that holds agro the best is the highest DPS.

[dreamy grotto]

for deflector shield)

[hexed steppe]

Yeah, farm whas needed in cd

[main estuary]

yea duhhhh. so i make sure i dont have the highest dps?

[subtle bluff]

I've done both sides. I've tried to tank learn I'm kind of useless with it.

I do my job I kill things before than hurt me or others.

[main estuary]

yea that too, but tunks overall

[subtle bluff]

The point this game is not like the standard RPG game

It is but isn't.

[main estuary]

and i do my jhob to make sure that you are able to KEEP killing people

[subtle bluff]

And back to the point of a support build.

[main estuary]

yes

[subtle bluff]

Support isn't just healing.

[main estuary]

ik

[subtle bluff]

If you're taking aways a dmg role you need to support with yes some heals but buffs too.

[main estuary]

support is buffs and stuff, just anything that would make it eiser for tanks and dps

[subtle bluff]

If you want me to copy and paste my guide per question or thing I could.

[main estuary]

hell no ❤️

no shade tho