td2-build-advice

[subtle bluff]

Nvm just getting on and checking

[hexed steppe]

So wait, wouldn't caps wd from talent kinda be an amp as well, not full amp cause watch has wd but almost single source... I figure it would be a fairly strong bump on a skill build.

[solar sable]

yep

[subtle bluff]

Top is Pyro, Cap bot.
Pretty close. It's a toss up at that rate. DTA 12 vs DTH 21 imo is the thing.

I forgot the cap base dmg is big

[subtle bluff]

It adds into the WD equation. Cap wins off of base WD and I forgot the mods it has on is kind of big.

I need to make the Red Hybrid Tech tank Capa before the seasons up.

[hexed steppe]

Highend or gearset

[subtle bluff]

Just strikers it I think. The idea is just Overdriving and going full out with it.

[hexed steppe]

Gotcha

[subtle bluff]

It's got beat my HB Tech Tank some where

[hexed steppe]

I been loving hb this season

Its a staple now 🍻

[subtle bluff]

Yeah the buff was nice.

Gave me the other reason to switch over to it.

[subtle bluff]

Gonna make a in-depth guide on mine. You need to come and do a harder lego with me on it.

[rich lotus]

What ya think about this build

[fresh fox]

hell no

patty wolf #theusualsuspects

[fickle swallow]

goated thanks, so many mfs are misleading

[fickle swallow]

just so im on the right page should i do something like this or just outright get rid of foxes prayer?

[kindred escarp]

Bluescreen has low CHC, no Ceska, why Gila? No shield where you could have at5 one. Bad build.

Is Gila Nightwatcher? even worse.

[kindred escarp]

Replace it for Ceska, it's not hard and has been talked about a million times already.

[fickle swallow]

mb man ive been at work all day 😭

[kindred escarp]

Use Ceska obliterate unless that is something like an incursion build where you use Striker chest.

[fickle swallow]

its gonna be for just overall content im gonna tweek it with some blue cores as well

[kindred escarp]

Unless you are going HS, think of Ceska as the base for most builds unless you use Nego or Umbra that have 15% CHC stats.

[fickle swallow]

do you think some of these can be swapped for blue cores? i wanna do high dps but not be a walking piece of glass

[kindred escarp]

Bighorn is DTOC, Capicator is DTOC.

[subtle bluff]

yes you can

It's always DTTooC. LMG it's CHC.

[kindred escarp]

You can swap blue cores where you like generally but also consider Memento if you want survivability.

[fickle swallow]

i have momento but by chc and chd would suffer bc of it

my watch level is only at 100

[subtle bluff]

This

[kindred escarp]

Well your damage suffers from blue cores so it's sort of the same, Memento is really strong for a single piece, put all your points into CHC at the start. Alternatively because you are so low SHD, extending TTK by running bluecores is probably not worth it overall and you just need to learn how to play.

[fickle swallow]

ill try out all red and see how it goes

[kindred escarp]

It's a learning experience is all I can say, don't try to face trade ads they can have up to like 30x the EHP of the player.

[fickle swallow]

the highest ill go for now is challenging in a team, im only dealing around 250k per crit which is why im trying to overhaul my build

[kindred escarp]

Team scales enemies, try solo a bit and see if your TTK is acceptable with the standard Ceska Obliterate Striker's, maybe run 1 or 2 blue core.

[rich lotus]

Kinda new when it comes to builds can you let me know if any youtubers worth watching then for builds or nah avoid at all cost

[kindred escarp]

Ikia is best pure numbers and where they work, https://www.youtube.com/@ikia/featured, longer vids but they cover all the information you'll need. Dod has shorter vids that sometimes rub people the wrong way, he's informnation is usually good and you can take or leave his opinion, https://www.youtube.com/@DodRegnbue/featured.

[subtle bluff]

The stuff in my Playlist are good. In bio.

6 blue is too much imo.

[kindred escarp]

At most you want a T6 shield so the cores depend on specialisation and Memento or not.

[grand condor]

So what does reconfigure exotic really do? Does it re-roll all 3 stats at once so you can end up with something far worse than you had?

[silk fern]

yes

but it also has the chance of rerolling higher stats that you can just optimize up, or even giving you a maxed out exotic

[kindred escarp]

Roll everything o HS and run Bighorn.

[rich lotus]

How do I find your Playlist

Nvm

[rich bison]

as close to god as we're getting?

[subtle bluff]

If you don't get collect trophy stacks it does suck. But once it's fully stacked it's one if the hardest working gear piece's in the game.

[subtle bluff]

You still want DTTooC (Dmg to Targets out of cover)

[rich bison]

yah, i havent gotten any dttooc yet

[subtle bluff]

It's a playstyle afterwards.

[rich bison]

i had a crit chance/dam one earlier but i kept rerolling and landed this

[hazy steeple]

DtA is fine for now, it's not a bad choice, just not the best one.

I'd avoid re-rolling any more. you're better off farming out one with dtooc, than spending the Exo Comps to get one and optimising it to boot.

[rich lotus]

Im thinking of getting rid of the refractor build and just work on this support build instead I already got damage so maybe this could help in groups ?

[solar sable]

it does, uzina bag is quite a pain to get

[rich bison]

read that dta is a second best choice, at least on the guide on the spreadsheet

[solar sable]

got mine rolled with a blue and I run tech for that extra tier

[solar sable]

it's not as great as dtoc, but it works fine until you get DTOC

[hazy steeple]

I like to think of it like this: every enemy can be out of cover, but enemies need a white bar over their health to have "armour".

[clear haven]

Whyd you abbreviate just to unabbreviate

[solar sable]

Just in case they don't know what it means.

[hazy steeple]

e.g. TL (Targeted Loot).

Otherwise you fall into the situation of: "I need to go into the LZ, not the DZ, to farm a CP, so I can get a BP for my BP".

[snow geode]

What’s a good bighorn regen build with catharsis? 3 gila? 3 golan?

[rich bison]

yeah it seems like this is the move

dta still improves my times to kill somewhat

[hazy steeple]

You only run into issues with it when you try and fight a heavy, or enemies without that white bar.

[subtle bluff]

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/234461-tom-clancys-the-division-2/faqs/81858

[rich bison]

also, re benchmarking my build

i'm getting maybe 1.1b dam on countdown

[hazy steeple]

Countdown is not a good meter to test by, as the buffs and scaling stuff will mess with things.

[hazy hull]

I wanna run the m16 as a main wepon build suggestions would be great

[subtle bluff]

In the Pinned Message there is something that’ll help you calculate your DPS.

[subtle bluff]

OD all the way.

[hazy hull]

OD?

[subtle bluff]

Brb getting my build pic for it

[hazy hull]

OK

[hexed steppe]

whats happening XD

[subtle bluff]

THERE

UGH… iOS is what happened

[hazy hull]

Hahah

[tulip charm]

👀

[hexed steppe]

was gonna say Not_a_Virus.exe
-# /j

[hazy hull]

Just one of my friends joked about Bell being an SHD agent so I am now building a cold war agent lol

[subtle bluff]

ANYHOO. There is a guide in the Pinned Message of it. But here’s what the build would look like change weapons to m16

How you get CC on can be a done a few different ways but once you do it’s off the the races.

[rich bison]

Thanks! Are there any community benchmarks?

[subtle bluff]

My own when people telling us that they XXX,XXX amount but not know what DPS they do.

[subtle bluff]

Off of the top of our head no. Remember DPS on paper vs in actually where you have to land shots makes a different it’s a reference for yourself.

[hazy hull]

Wait does the heal chem launcher do damage?

[subtle bluff]

Everything that launch’s something at something does “dmg” this is a dumb example of when you learn how to stack dmgs in this game.

[hazy hull]

I honestly just use corrode or fire starter chems on my skill build

[hexed steppe]

~~max hh, dc chem ~~... nice 😎
-# nothing to see here

[subtle bluff]

Shhh that’s for them to figure out. Close.

[sullen sun]

Thoughts on this

YouTube build..

[solar sable]

I will never trust YT builds in the slightest.

[ebon ravine]

Anyone have a good build for the dz to take out bighorn regen builds?

[sullen sun]

I was just curious

[vestal ibex]

It's got OD chest and correct talent on gun. That in itself is enough for the build to do most solo heroic with no problem hence you've got a build worthy of making a video of and slap some odd things on the rest and it's now unique and "my take" on a build for some OC...

[kindred escarp]

Their CHC comes from Vindictive, trash.

[kindred escarp]

Umbra, spotter, reg, mortar, sniper, Striker, crit shotgun, pesti, old fashion AR build.

Heart Breaker, obliterate Lengmo LMG build.

[sullen sun]

I tried it and I’m hitting for over 14k

Believe it or not

I changed the bag talent to Wicked though

[fresh fox]

i mean it’s ok

ceska bag instead of petrov and it’s good

[small igloo]

@sullen sun you could always throw a ceska bp with wicked on it.

[sullen sun]

It’s not critting the same as the build with the scabard tbh

[kindred escarp]

No it would crit more, sort of the point of Ceska.

[sullen sun]

The Scabard has 20% weapon dmg too

[versed summit]

You can still run scabbard with Česká backpack tho

[shy willow]

On my OD setup I think I have contractors and a ceska bag

[rose spire]

Best exotic equipment for ongoing directive and courier?
I'm rolling vile right now and the dot is definitely helping to steamroll but if there is better, I'm all ears.

[subtle bluff]

None it doesn't need exotic.
OD does better has WD not has a Bleed build. The bleed isn't that much vs it's AMP damge it gives out.

[lunar dune]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[kindred escarp]

Only Petrov piece I'd run is Contractor's, OD needs CHC and CHD so Ceska is the best option. That doesn't replace holster it replaces BP.

[tulip charm]

Striker

[supple spindle]

Whats the best Pestilenz buid?

[violet juniper]

3 piece lengmo, contractors, and something else I can't remember

all red

[fresh fox]

foxes and coyotes

glass + vigi

[grand condor]

Should I be rolling crit dmg or crit change on the gear it self?

Its one or the other better to use as Mod rather than on the item?

[fresh fox]

it don’t matter

if it’s for crit builds you will roll both

then adjust mods/attachments depending on what crit stats you need

[fresh fox]

unless it’s like striker or something then you roll crit damage 99% of the time

[halcyon orchid]

My buddy wants an LMG Armor build, any recommendations on what he should run? I’m not very familiar with armor builds.

[ebon ravine]

Explain to me, havent played in a few years dont know what a lot of these are

[rich lotus]

So is this a tank dps build basically ?

[bright raptor]

tank-y depending on how many blue armor cores you choose to retain. The tankiness is primarily through how the blue cores improve the shield at the cost of weapon damage

[barren walrus]

In my eyes, not necessarily.

Bonus Armor is certainly a method of 'tanking' damage, but it's not a reliable method of 'negating' damage.

But, %-based values grow stronger based on the base value being bigger.

So you won't be getting a lot of armor to work with, even with the bonus armor. The set's bonus armor is ridiculous because *doubling a big number gets a bigger number.

It doesn't help that you have Vigilance, granting you a damage buff after not taking damage, the opposite of tanking.

This seems more like an "oh shit" build with a safety net more than a build capable of out-DPSing the enemy while taking in bullets.

[onyx sage]

the bonus armor protects vigilance, which is why it's used there

[barren walrus]

It does?! I never knew that

[onyx sage]

you're not going to "tank" damage as much as you're getting some more comfort compared to a normal dps build, but i get what you're saying

yeah, you only disable it when you take a staggering hit or you get hit on your white armor

[barren walrus]

Wow

That is lovely to know

Honestly, I'm going to say something crazy.

Health as a stat might be underrated. I need to find out a way to use it and find out properly "why" its bad, but still, I think it's underrated.

The Health flat values as a sub-attribute? Yeah, that's bad, too low to make yourself "tanky". But what about the brand sets? What with the 30%/60%/90% laying about

[magic pilot]

Not worth

Even the % are too small to even come close to the armor value

[barren walrus]

But what if: it didn't need to be.

Sure, I don't deny that you can't tank with health. After all, it doesn't compare to the armor values.

But what about in cases where nearly every single instance of talent and sub attribute is attributes to boosting damage?

Your armor stat becomes worthless, merely a health value that is easily removed, and hard to replenish without armor kits, or a talent that restores a portion (or makes armor kits last longer with stronger effects)

Of course, you'd have to build for health explicitly, and that makes it bad

But it might serve as a niche.

Because health does what armor cannot: it heals over time.

[urban latch]

The one shot protection mechanic can make health feel more important than it is. All those times you get "saved" on a silver of health isnt having just enough health, its that mechanic can trigger once ever 30 seconds. Play around that mechanic and your health (and armor) really doesnt matter

[magic pilot]

And what build would go for health? That already locks you out of striker

[barren walrus]

It's not the one shot that makes me hype it up, it's merely the regeneration at base, and Firewalls "30% Health on kill" that makes me look on it fondly.

Unquestionably, yes, the one shot is helpful as hell, and I am wary of the mechanic in existence.

And once more, I am wary that modding for health is nothing more than insanity or "not using meta out of principle", being potentially redundant at best, and passively nothing at worst.

Even then, I still want to see what I can do with it, since we were given the tools to use it to begin with.

[barren walrus]

See, the problem with your response is that your first thought for a DPS build uses Strikers.

Not without reason, of course, it's one of the best, and easiest, methods for DPS builds. But, you should know that it's not the only way of making a DPS build.

Look no further than a "Rainbow" build. (I believe that's what they call builds that prioritize a selection of brandsets, not a mixture of core attributes. They call that "hybrid", iirc.)

All red cores, Ninjabike backpack, Sub-Attributes set to critical damage and chance.

Perhaps use 5.11, and/or Gila Guard (5% armor might be redundant, but one can take what they can get). Ceska Vyroba is a safe option, too.

Maybe take some things that make weapons easier to handle like Zwiadowka and the Fox's Prayer for that amplified damage.

I recognize that the only things that boost Health in any kind of degree that could make it worthwhile are all in the Brandsets.

So, I would use the brandsets, with the exotic that is built to reach the upper set bonuses easily, and let the Sub Attributes, Fox's Prayer, and Chestpiece Talent pick up the slack.

[magic pilot]

You lost me with Ninjabike

The issue is that Fox does not pick up the slack

Nothing will make up for the dmg loss of running Ninjabike

You can make a 1.2m health build, it does nothing for survivability

[barren walrus]

If that's the case, then does survivability truly exist in the Division 2?

If Health, which by all accounts could be considered superior to armor, if compared 1:1 with no outside factors, could still not count as survivability...

Then at what point does being able to shrug off bullets begin counting as survivability?

Because you need talents and/or brandsets to specifically build armor regen and/or armor on kill.

Health requires brandsets to boost how much health you have, and Firewall to benefit from a hefty 30% of health back on kill. But outside of Sub-Attributes (which we can all agree are too small to make a difference), they do not take up any space on the build itself. Red Cores, Critical Damage and Chance, all there, untouched, uncompromised, with a Chestpiece talent to spare.

How is this setup any different than a pure-DPS setup, in terms of survival?

I say, there are some notable differences, as the point provided by one of you is "it can barely reach armor levels", but as I mentioned before, is it really necessary if used in a DPS build?

[magic pilot]

Survivability exists in Div 2 by killing everything before it kills you.

The reason health is inferior is because at base it is significantly lower and costs your brand slots to reach high health, which in turn lowers your dmg significantly

You don't. Simply kill before you die

Yes and going out of your way for armor regen/AoK is not worth building for in PvP unless it's easily obtainable. Like running gunner or 1 palisade or preservation. These have minimal effects on your overall dps

Brands are a significant source of dps, considering you would need to run ninja or run all your brands focused around health it would be a substantial dps drop.

The difference is one does more dps and one doesn't. The dps build has more survivability because it will clear enemies faster.

The issue is that building for health overall makes it not a dps build

If you would like you can share me a health build and I can compare it to a standard striker build in terms of dps

So we can see how big the loss actually is

[patent fossil]

pfe or EB are probably the only ways to achieve some survivability without sacrificing all your dps

[urban latch]

This is exactly where health builds fall apart. Once you actually start putting something together you'll quickly realize it's just not effective.

[subtle bluff]

Bullets, they hurt. Is it that bad from one source eh not too bad.
But now if they are incoming from multiple sources and multiple angles that's gonna suck.

Unhealthed things can't hurt you.

[magic pilot]

Life steal in div 2= kill everything and keep your 900k armor 🤣

[barren walrus]

Once more, I see an example of a troglodyte level of thinking. (Not attempting to insult you, just the tactic being described.)

I understand the moniker of "kill or be killed". But have you heard of the term "putting your eggs all in one basket"?

To claim the game works along the lines of "kill first, or be killed first" is nothing more than simplistic thinking in my eyes. Yes, you can build this way, and do so with a degree of success, if not the most reliable method of success.

Honestly respectable, on one hand. Who doesn't like killing fast and hard?

But on the other, to put down other methods of playing, maybe even negating certain ones, for the sake of the almighty META, is nothing short of unimaginative. What if I didn't want to just obliterate everything and then die the next time an enemy sneezed on me? If I'm going to do something stupid, I'd rather not be punished with being sent to the beginning of the level.

Definitely a skill issue on my end, sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't, but either way, it's preference.

It's not about outgunning the other man in a fast time, it's about doing so without dying in the process. Survivability has a foothold in this game, regardless of how effective you think it is, and how much you think it encroaches on a build.

We might disagree on the when we kill enemies, but we agree that enemies must be killed to progress. How we go about it, and what we lose in favor for something else is a matter of preference.

The "kill them first" mentality would only work if they aren't firing back.

So you fire back when they don't. But if they don't fire back, they don't peek, thus, you can't hit them effectively.

[subtle bluff]

I think this is why division is so different vs a lot of loot em shoot them is just it's different.
You need to look at how things are done differently as much as a curse when I do think wrong and get downed it's what makes this so much of challenges still playing this game for short but a lot still has me enjoying it.

[magic pilot]

The game is balanced around putting all your eggs in one basket, aka dmg. Build however you want, Idrc. I'm telling you building for health isn't effective. Not saying you shouldn't try it

If you are ok with a mission taking 2 hours to clear go for it

I'd rather be efficient and clear content fast

And you can absolutely do stupid things while playing full dps

@onyx sage runs no shield, no determined, no exotics, no armor, etc and does fine

[subtle bluff]

Just curiously what's your experience or time into the game.
I'm kind of late to this conversation and I see you have a lot to say.

[barren walrus]

I agree with that, yeah.

The game gave us tools, and its up to the individual to make what they want from them.

Not everyone has the "clear fast, win fast" mentality, some of us don't really give a shite about it. Some of us would run naked into a fight if they could, the rest would be armed to the teeth.

[magic pilot]

Your intial post I replied to was health might be underrated so I answered. Its not short answer

[barren walrus]

Got about 575 hours, maybe more since I played exclusively on XBOX prior to going on PC.

[subtle bluff]

Thanks for that!

[magic pilot]

If you are playing solo heroic you can effectively run whatever the hell you want

https://youtu.be/YSLySCNBwKg?si=_gS-nxWkBRAOLUuC

Perfect example

You'll also see from this video how armor and health mean nothing besides "unga bunga I can take .5 more seconds to die"

[barren walrus]

Hence the "might".

If I detect there's a problem, then I have nothing but myself to blame.

But I would rather look at a situation and judge for myself with math and theorization

Than discount it under the guise of "but its not DPS". Because there are elements health has over armor, and those are the aspects I'm focused on right now.

After all, I put together a Pestilence build that kills decently fast with Flat+1% armor regen and the Catharsis as a sub-attribute stat, because I realized The Pestilence doesn't use critical damage OR headshot damage.

And I ended up making something that's surprisingly effective.

Boring, maybe, but effective.

[magic pilot]

The issue is you are comparing health to armor like armor actually does something

[subtle bluff]

One I think I have something you should watch. Since you're going down this theory hole and there's too much to say here to help you.

[magic pilot]

Again, solo heroic anything is effective

[subtle bluff]

Prod one sec

[magic pilot]

This one long ass second

[subtle bluff]

....

[subtle bluff]

https://youtu.be/yy_3BeVavOM?si=DnkkqQqXdjEmdmLF
I don't recommend this guy a lot to ppl only to the ones that want alllll the details.

There's more like podcast breakdowns.

[urban latch]

Not him...

[subtle bluff]

Guys.. I know.. for this guy I think he wants this kind of info.

[magic pilot]

Wasn't all of this disproven as complete horse shit?

Like super biased testing

[subtle bluff]

As long as you keep as a theory ideas

[urban latch]

He is not at all a good source of info

[subtle bluff]

I... watched them alll.... It was another way of looking at it.

[urban latch]

We don't even need to have this whole "survivability vs damage" debate. The problem with health is compared to armor, health is far less effective

[barren walrus]

Because most of the time, it can.

The problem you're assuming it's trying to solve is to survive constant fire. Not bursts.

It cannot survive sustained fire, I agree on that end.

But if you're trying to lean on armor as the "end of taking damage", then perhaps you're still putting eggs into that one basket.

Because although enemies deal ridiculous levels of damage, being able to increase the amount of hits you have before dying is still invaluable, and the ability to regenerate those hits over time, is better still.

The Memento gives you 3% armor regen, and to be honest, I've had nothing but good times leaning on that regen. (Yes, the damage boost is very handy too, and I've seen it in effect. But that armor regen just lets me rest for a moment before peeking out for another pick.)

Because yeah, that one-shot protection is handy, but it's meant to stop you from dying instantly, not to lean on to prevent death forever. That 30-second cooldown is there for a reason, and you mean to tell me I should wait for 30 seconds to kill an enemy and hope to god the next one doesn't flank me? Nah, I'll take my chances.

[urban latch]

And if you ever want survivability, put on a crusader shield

[subtle bluff]

Oh... I haven't kept up at all.

[barren walrus]

Understandable, lots of word vomit being thrown around, complete with people hittin' me with skull emojis while they hit the others with 💯.

[magic pilot]

You think good players are hiding in cover for 30s and not fighting??

[peak meadow]

SKULL EMOJI

[magic pilot]

Shush you don't read paragraphs

[urban latch]

Toxicity, just come up with a health build your thinking of, and we can compare to a build with armor cures instead. We'll see what does more damage with equal survivability

[barren walrus]

You told me about that one-shot protect like its supposed to make up for survivability, brother.

[magic pilot]

I didn't bring it up. Read the messages

[barren walrus]

One sec...

[barren walrus]

Oh shit, remembered this incorrectly.

My B, bruv.

[peak meadow]

It's true, I just saw skull emoji

[subtle bluff]

The shield will tank better than us.

2 hana-u

[barren walrus]

Undoubtedly, since it is doing what it's designed to do.

[subtle bluff]

Keeping it simple. But there's more to it.

[barren walrus]

Indeed.

[magic pilot]

Scabbard

You'd want ceska on both

[subtle bluff]

I dislike waveform a lot imo.

[magic pilot]

Scabbard*

[subtle bluff]

This is for solo right?

[barren walrus]

"Hey guys, lets make an inconsistent damage buff apply to both skills, so you have to run shit like Striker Drone and the Assault turret to get the most use out of what you can do"

Neat in concept, bad in execution.

Shocker punch is worse though, I'll be real

[subtle bluff]

Once you're level up a bit more and ready for some end game content, come find me and I'll take you thru incursion. You'll forsure learn a lot.

[barren walrus]

OHHHH you meant in-game level???

I thought you mean hours

[subtle bluff]

Just in general.

[barren walrus]

Yeah nah, I'm level 1361.

Completed the incursion at least twice, would be lovely to keep going for the Ouroboros, since I have a healing build and shiz

[topaz mist]

wat, that hit as hard as the stats make it look?

[magic pilot]

If you can maintain the buffs with high up time yes

[onyx sage]

mag 2

[subtle bluff]

I ask for more context when giving advice out for this reason.

Momento is Great in solo because you do all the killing and get all the stacks.
In a group, you won't be the best DPS with it and you won't get all your stacks quickly and if you ever die you lose them all.

HB build is very much more of a playstyle that needs to match the build imo, has someone a lot of experience with it.

I hope you know they only drop blue so you need to get skill dmg to change the blue to yellow.

I LOVE Memento but I don't get to use it much due to always being a group and other exo are used but if you're able to get to your max stacks go for it.

[subtle bluff]

Not trying to be cocky or anything but have you done in less than 14 mins?

[barren walrus]

I mean, for one, the rewards are weekly so I couldn't give a rats' arse about "how fast" I complete it.

For two, I can only ever matchmake, so whether I do or not really did "depend".

[magic pilot]

Tbh it doesn't depend on matchmaking

Chow can probably solo carry 3 players relatively fast through incursion

[barren walrus]

Glad to see he can show off their skills to us lower-skilled plebians

[magic pilot]

Check the incursion clear leaderboard

[subtle bluff]

Ok then how cleanly it can be done then.

[magic pilot]

Chow doesn't like to show off so I do it for him

[subtle bluff]

Again wasn't trying to be cocky. I clear and teach incursion to FTC all the time. Like on the daily idk I have a issue...

[barren walrus]

FTC?

[magic pilot]

Which can involve doing all the work sometimes that's all

[trail hinge]

Not only is he a really good gamer, he's a really nice guy too

[magic pilot]

First time clear

[trail hinge]

Thats my contribution to the Chow fanclub

[subtle bluff]

Kingbreaker is actually really bad for HB (IMO gneneral since they nerfed it). Use fast ROF weapon like any of the M4 or G36.

[barren walrus]

Huh!

So far, I know how it works for the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd bosses in great detail.

I have trouble understanding the 4th, though. All I know is "sniper turret bad" and "huddle up in first area".

[subtle bluff]

I can teach it all.

[magic pilot]

There's only 2 stages with actual bosses

[barren walrus]

That, would be handy.

[magic pilot]

We don't count moss

[barren walrus]

Well erm-

I guess I mean the "stages" then.

[magic pilot]

Yea probably

Turrets, tanker, wright, lovers. Not counting the small areas between

[barren walrus]

Oh, in terms of paradise lost, does this work?

... Yeah, got half a mind to revert those Strikers blue cores, but nevertheless, if thats the only problem, then thats an easy fix, my guy.

[subtle bluff]

I'll DM you in a bit I have some work to do.

[magic pilot]

It'll work when you swap to all red yes

BK isn't ideal but it'll work fine

[subtle bluff]

Stop

[barren walrus]

Fast Fire rate, infinite ammo, seems kind of fine to me. You going to suggest St. Elmo's Engine?

[magic pilot]

No lol

[subtle bluff]

SOoo my requirement for running is 4pc Strikers Chest & BP w/ACS12

Prod stop I got it.

[magic pilot]

Sorry sir cannot

[subtle bluff]

MY WHEELHOUSE, GET OUT

[barren walrus]

pfff

[magic pilot]

Get to advice spitting then

Spending more time focused on me than him

[subtle bluff]

This guy.

[trail hinge]

...I dont like it when mommy and daddy fight

[barren walrus]

Ah, I knew I was missing somethin'. I got the Rock 'n Roll, that's what I needed

[subtle bluff]

I KNEW IT...

[magic pilot]

Who is mommy in this situation

[barren walrus]

And ye, I know any ACS12 works, just might as well go all in

[trail hinge]

I dont think anyone wants me to answer that question

[magic pilot]

Dibs

[trail hinge]

Ok fine, there we go

Daddy Chow it is

[subtle bluff]

You.... P.....p..l....

WHY do you make me say this.

UGH I typed it out again too.

[barren walrus]

There we go. Rock n Roll.

Current starts are...

53.5% Crit Chance / 132.8% Crit Damage

[subtle bluff]

I'll DM in a bit for the other public servers we use for VC I have a meeting to do.

[barren walrus]

Skills probably don't matter since its not built for them regardless

[rich lotus]

Hey i just wanted to know I'm a bit new to division I wanted to know what are some important builds to have in an arsenal I have a striker build and support build so I'm just wondering

If anyone can tell me and give me advice on builds to have if you want you can dm me

[pseudo shard]

Does status effect stat affect bluescreen lmg?

Or is still 5 secs for the effects

[hexed steppe]

I dont think status affects bs. Same with scorpio

[pseudo shard]

Yeah I did think so, I see YouTube but it on there gear :/

[bright raptor]

youtuber

[pseudo shard]

So I just don't bother with them vids much

I doing a bluescreen build, with heartbreaker armor set,new exotic gloves and the watchmen mask

[hexed steppe]

Can easily check it in the range

[magic pilot]

Rogue gold

[rich lotus]

??

[pseudo shard]

Huh?

[magic pilot]

YouTuber build they posted

[hexed vault]

Bluescreen and OD was the newest one

[tulip charm]

Sometimes I wish gear 1.0 still existed

There’s only so much you can do build wise

[subtle bluff]

I still don't get the obsession with bluescreen.. 😐

[tulip charm]

You haven’t been blue pilled yet

But yeah bluescreen is goated atm

[fresh fox]

idc pal.

its poop.

until someone i trust with my life says its good

its bad.

[tulip charm]

@onyx sage

[short verge]

reload animations are offensive to me

w e a p o n h a n d l i n g

[subtle bluff]

uh?

[pseudo shard]

Ehhh it's down to preference🤷🏽‍♂️

[fresh fox]

W bober

[short verge]

bober taught me to actually read, its great for emergencies but my stupid ass read the description as "every headshot" below 30% health as opposed to one (1) headshot with a proc cooldown

[magic pilot]

Every headshot does

Until you are over 30% armor lol

Which is 1 bullet

[magic pilot]

2 pc striker be like

[shy willow]

It's quite a good lmg

Handles more like an AR and has a pretty decent talent

[violet juniper]

The talent is awesome in legendary

Pairs well with emp sticky

[worn mango]

I've seen people use it with OD

Self procs, stupid big mag, good handling

[hexed vault]

RogueGold said that

[worn mango]

I still want my Sadist, but for something different there's nothing wrong

[kindred escarp]

Most builds can beat Regen Bighorn due to damage potential or DPS window, Reg can 2 tap, sniper can 1 tap, crit shotgun can 2 tap. Any crit build can hit them while they strafe provide you are on PC and can aim, don't try to face trade. There is a PvP thread here so maybe ask there.

[kindred escarp]

Kingbreaker is dead, throw it in the trash.

[kindred escarp]

Absolutely, any diversification from one or two stats is heavily punished in efficiency. Since the goal is dead enemies, running something like yellow core and repair skills on Striker's so you can use a repair hive to survive for longer while your lower damage kills enemies is the exact same outcome as red Striker's, it's just slower, more painful and gives the NPCS more time to pull some sort of BS.

Kingbreaker is dead, throw it in the trash. Use Lexi for HB is you got and want to pulse or roll everything to HS, use Bighorn and let others in the group shoot at the headless.

[topaz mist]

elmo and the striker set work well together? considering the big mag and refill ability elmo has

[fair oriole]

Does there happen to be any spreadsheet or place where I could possibly find speedrun builds for the incursion? Unless theyre hidden on the pinned spreadsheet only place ive seen some are on youtube vids

[onyx sage]

you can ask the guys that run it here too: @vestal ibex @magic turret @subtle bluff

[fair oriole]

Oh tyty, I was already looking at some of their vids on builds so I guess ill just stick with these then

Seeing em do speedruns made me want to try making some of the builds with friends

[merry hemlock]

hey guys just went and farmed out exuro really quick because i wanted to try, any suggestions on a build?

[vestal ibex]

These are most of the builds I use, name is shown on the left. How you use them and what your strat is will matter more than a build tho.

[white pollen]

💀 Ask and you shall receive!

[vestal ibex]

I do a bunch of different roles depending on the team I run with and I've pretty much done every role down to like low 6 min times.

[fair oriole]

I appreciate the builds a whole bunch, hopefully i can try doing it a couple times with friends

[vestal ibex]

Yeah if you have questions on how this or that works idm helping.

[white pollen]

Which exotic SMG is that on your 'Tanker' build?

recently returned and am still finding myself surprised by some exotics that I don't know of yet

[vestal ibex]

Backfire, it recently got a buff in the reduction of stacks required to get the 200% CHD so it's pretty good especially for tanker.

[fair oriole]

Of course tysm again!

[signal pelican]

Why is damage out of cover the best? I was always told but idk why

[vestal ibex]

It's a 10% amp in most cases(unless you've got foxes on) and most enemies are never in cover.

[signal pelican]

Wait foxes don't stack?

[vestal ibex]

It does but the way mafs works you don't get the full effect if you consider going from 10 to 18 it's not a full 8% but it's all still such a large increase vs any other option.

[signal pelican]

Ok

[grand condor]

What brand should I farm to have higher change of setting a high crit hit roll on backpack? Feels like the attributes follow the main stat

[thorn pivot]

can somebody show me a stagger tank build for IH raid 4th boss?

[subtle bluff]

In the Pinned Message sheet should have it

[solar sable]

yeah, if an item is rolled with Skill Tier, it mostly rolls with skill attributes and so goes

What are you looking for?

[grand condor]

Need crit chance for backpack, that one is my lowest in my lib

[solar sable]

target Ceska, it shouldn't take long

[grand condor]

Is div2 just like 1 where baseline for 90% of builds are max rolled: armor, crit dmg, crit change? (And skill haste etc for a skill build)

[hazy steeple]

@grand condor Most meta setups in div2 don't really use armour at all, but focus more-so on killing stuff faster and positioning.

[grand condor]

I suck to much for that. Even With armor, if I am angled I am dead in 1 sec while rolling and getting stuck in animation loops trying to cover 🤣

[fair dragon]

You gotta extract the most out of the build. Stat rolls is the easiest to do.

[indigo fjord]

A build from YT I just wanted to get a second and probably more experienced opinion on it before I dedicate myself to building it

[shy willow]

It's like half good

The blues would work for PvP but in that case I'd switch the talents round

[indigo fjord]

I was gonna run it all red anyway tbf

[shy willow]

For pve id go all red

[indigo fjord]

Should I go for it or would there be better options?

[shy willow]

Lengmo gets you the highest tick damage on pesti

Looks solid with all red

Though I'd use glass cannon

[dreamy valve]

What build is everyone planning to use for the upcoming climax mission on master difficulty

[subtle bluff]

Would you be surprised if we said Striker?

Full squad probably 2 strikers, PFE something and FI to learn it.

[dreamy grotto]

but whats better - have highest tick, or have both of worlds (decent tick and decent dps)

[indigo fjord]

Thats what I was thinking Id prefer a balance of both but idk if its better to just for for tick rate or just go for DPS

[dreamy grotto]

i mean, i just tried it on regular high end build (grupo + ceska + fox + contractors + coyotes) and there is like 900k ticks

does build focused on ticks have MUCH higher ticks? and how its dps related to usuall high end setup?

[indigo fjord]

The dude in the YT vid said like 1.3-1.5M tick

[dreamy valve]

I’d build for ticks cause why use Pesti if not for the ability

[dreamy valve]

More weapon dps means higher ticks

Expertise level can matter as well

[dreamy grotto]

well. thanks) it might be obvious, but here we are)

[dreamy valve]

Use 3pc Lengmo

1 million per tick is good I feel

Cause I would suggest some weapon handling

[sand meteor]

🤯

[cerulean smelt]

gotta remember some of them builds could've been uploaded years ago and probably don't have anything current

[indigo fjord]

The build is from about a month ago

and he was hitting 1.1M tick dmg with an unoptimized build with 2 blue

[tulip charm]

Its an optimial build for pesti

The hardest part is getting double crit rolls on lengmo pieces

But running foxes is trolling. Ceska would net you more damage overall.

[fresh fox]

no foxes isn’t trolling

since it’s a high end set and pesti can run chc you have more than enough crit

[halcyon orchid]

My buddy wants some form of an LMG tank build, I’m not familiar with armor builds so I was wondering if anyone could give some suggestions on what he should run

[urban latch]

People really overrate the tick damage with pesti. Your right that just running a good build is more important than trying to min/max the pesti tick damage. Roughly ~90% of your damage will be from regular DPS, ~10% will be from the tick damage.

[hexed vault]

Would Aegis be good for a tanky type build?

[cerulean smelt]

yes and no
the game doesn't really have a taunt or threat mechanic so if things don't target you you don't get any of the damage resistence

[hexed vault]

There's mosquito but that's every 5s

[terse scroll]

any tips on this build to just improve it besides just maxing out my attributes? (i just need to farm optimization stuff basically

also what would be a pistol I could slot in this build to work better with doing all directives and managing Pistolero? I've looked up and I think the Magnum would be my best option?

[tulip charm]

No

[vestal ibex]

It's beautiful.

[fresh fox]

perfect yea

[terse scroll]

hahah thank you

[fresh fox]

only thing that can really change is the exotic weapon

[vestal ibex]

Yeah nem is really great for start up shots if you don't have tac ammo.

[terse scroll]

yeah I've just been trying out the Diamondback since I got it because it seemed decent for armor and I hadn't got it before

[fresh fox]

nemesis or busy bee would be great

[terse scroll]

any good farming tips for Nemesis? I haven't really looked up how to actually get it

[terse scroll]

Oooh I got that one recently I think

[vestal ibex]

It's a project.

[terse scroll]

is this it?

[fresh fox]

i would start that now because i think grand washington is invaded

[fresh fox]

yea, just tag the red bar you plan to shoot

probably not needed but still good

[honest moss]

Or someone could drop you it too

[fresh fox]

also try to get a white death

[vestal ibex]

Ez nem this week or like 75% of it then finish next week.

[fresh fox]

once you get the blueprint from grand washington it’s in your targeted loot pool

[cerulean smelt]

personally i put my white death away for handbasket (> <)

[fresh fox]

so you could potentially get it sooner

[vestal ibex]

Depends on the player scaling.

[terse scroll]

so farming for Nemesis I just run Grand Washington Hotel?

[cerulean smelt]

i solo and it seems enough XD

[vestal ibex]

Yeah solo is ez.

solo heroic is like 9 mil elites where legendary 4 man is like 25 and some.

[cerulean smelt]

the project has blueprint drop on grand washington hotel, but you gotta get the named MMR in tidal basin and 1 other part to get the blueprint to drop in grand washington hotel

[vestal ibex]

Basically deconstruct the Adrestia SR1 which is in tidal basin behind a hidden keyed door, then go do the weeks invaded strong hold again on invaded as the boss will drop a part and now you'd have two parts and you can do grand washington invaded and puck will drop the blueprint.

[cerulean smelt]

oh? i thought it was one of those, do tidal and do soemthing else and wait for grand washington hotel invaded again XD

[terse scroll]

this sounds like a YouTube video is needed 😂

[vestal ibex]

Tons of nem guides out there, think one is pinned in #ask-td2-community too

[cerulean smelt]

did we only have 2 strongholds at one point or was there 3?

[hexed vault]

Non invaded was 2, invasion added a 3rd I think

[cerulean smelt]

memory has been lacking lately, i know they added Zoo as a stronghold after awhile

[patent fossil]

Main difference now is you can run tidal basin without having to run the full invasion first, although you still need to do that once for the second part

There were three strongholds on launch, dua, capitol and Roosevelt. Then tidal was added, then zoo.

[vestal ibex]

I mean on launch there was only one right? Then after two weeks we got another and another. Was trickled out.

[cerulean smelt]

was thinking dua honestly but was like nah

[terse scroll]

damnnnn you go left in the hovercraft, never knew this whole time 🤣 imma try to farm that now

[patent fossil]

I wasn't there at the time so I'll take your word for it, I thought they had the base story up to WT1 at launch.

[cerulean smelt]

think in the beginning was rough since you probably didn't have a BT key XD

[vestal ibex]

Don't forget the key from the bunkers in like the third area.

[terse scroll]

do I have to wait for certain strongholds to be invaded?

[vestal ibex]

Yeah WT1 was just a single strong hold.

[vestal ibex]

Yes and no. You'll get enough parts to qualify for the blueprint to drop from puck and once you have the blueprint you can farm TL MMRs for it.

You can also finish the strong holds and build a nem too.

[cerulean smelt]

from what i remember world tiers only went up as we did a strong hold for each tier?
like wt1 was dua, wt2 or capitol, wt3 roosevelt, wt4 and wt5 i forget honestly

[patent fossil]

Ah, you're talking about invaded strongholds rather than strongholds in general? I was kind of going with both tbf.

[vestal ibex]

Honestly it's been over 5 years and my brain doesn't have enough texture to keep those memories super well. I just remember world tiers coming out ever couple weeks. Thought the strong holds came with them but it's all fuzzy after that long.

[patent fossil]

Well, I was blurring the lines with invaded and non invaded strongholds anyway

[cerulean smelt]

all i can remember it was you hit 30 and were told to hit the various different strongholds XD then we learned about invaded strongholds and tackling tidal basin

[hexed vault]

That's where I lost a friend in the game lol

He had every control point and little side thing done, then the invasion took it all back and broke his OCD

[terse scroll]

side note, ty for answering the questions but starting this quest for the Nemesis now i finally found the yellow box in Tidal Basin to unlock that door where you pick up the keycard 🤣 I've been wondering for so long

[cerulean smelt]

did he rage quit?

[hexed vault]

Not rage quit but just hasn't picked it up since

[cerulean smelt]

you should capture the control points and send it his way and be like "mine stays green what's wrong with yours?" XD

[vestal ibex]

@terse scroll First set of 4 numbers at 8:31 are white death and second set of 4 numbers at 8:34 are the SR-1. To give you comparison of the two snipers. No scan used so flatline has no influence also.

[patent fossil]

Certainly the WT process after WONY was released required you to complete all three non invaded strongholds before you reached WT1, then each invaded stronghold raised you a world tier

[hexed vault]

Omg I should've. This was a few years ago now

[cerulean smelt]

was that what it was?

[patent fossil]

Yeah I'm certain about that, did it a few times with hardcore characters

[terse scroll]

ty ty, those numbers are so hard to read without the commas for me 😂

[vestal ibex]

Oh let me get nem numbers

[terse scroll]

I'm hitting usually like 20-23 mil with my current build depending on my stacks so not too far off, I find i can't 1 shot reds though when I'm in 4 stack legendary unless I have stacks so just need to optimize it a bit more and maybe use The White Death?

[vestal ibex]

Nem same exact build.

[terse scroll]

is this while using the nem?

[cerulean smelt]

are those the varying charges of nem? like a quick charge and shoot or full charge and shoot?

[vestal ibex]

100% on each shot, no HH, half, and then full HH.

The easy way to say is go out and find what enemies you can hit with a build in whatever content you are doing and remember that and stack accordingly but you can kinda guess based on these HP charts.

Team buffs obviously help you like FI/OD/spec buffs.

[terse scroll]

Yeah, sadly I haven't had a group yet where I can have fun with my Hotshot build in Legendary. Usually the fall back is Striker.
I've only done like one Legendary though, it's hard to find groups

[vestal ibex]

I know some guys who like to do lego run/teaching. I'll see if they are down and DM you if you don't mind.

[terse scroll]

yeah that's easy

[indigo fjord]

Looks like all imma be doing is playing countdown today then lmao

[cerulean smelt]

so true, getting the chc/weapon handling was a plus for backbone

[tulip charm]

i got 2 of those backbone

[indigo fjord]

Well I aint gonna stop farming countdown till I get double crit on all the lengmo that I need

[indigo fjord]

And thats on GOD

[hazy steeple]

@indigo fjord Chall in pub/Heroic in a team, is the most efficient method.

[indigo fjord]

Im running chall in pub anything less than that is a waste of my time ik

thx tho

[short verge]

does the chart also include the oddballs like rogue agents and hunters

[azure plank]

What should I put in attributes for this sidearm?

[onyx sage]

dttooc

[azure plank]

Thanks, or should I change the talent?

I mean just asking no idea about this tech, if talent can bring more benefits than attribute you can suggest me which talent

[onyx sage]

both of them are equally important

[solar sable]

TDI Kard offers both

[azure plank]

I don't have them, Tried so many times and hours but no TDI KARD from DZ

[solar sable]

named caches also work

[azure plank]

but with luck right? There have so many named item so getting that specific weapon gonna cost lots of named cache

[wanton heath]

Yo, is it better damage on enemies out of cover or armor damage for st elme ?

[onyx sage]

out of cover

[wanton heath]

ty buddy

[azure plank]

but I can recalibrate only one. So no choice or priority for this?

[onyx sage]

farm another one

you want one with dttooc

so talent is rerollable

[azure plank]

Oh Thank you, and wha talent I've to put in?

[onyx sage]

if it's a big mag like kard i'd use salvage, other than that it's preference really

[subtle bluff]

I got mine thru doing 4 man challenging CD with friends and just waiting out the timer and getting more spawns.

[hexed steppe]

The % chance is irrelevant, you drop that chance to 0% when you stop trying. There are probably a bunch of items you dont even know you need yet that also drop from those same named caches

[wooden finch]

has anyone tried memento+3p gila as a base for a regen DZ build

seems pretty solid if you build the stacks first

then just swap bag for something else once you go down

or is having near max hazpro worth

[vestal ibex]

No. That is just a normal enemy HP which still might vary a little by faction. It's just there to give you an idea of where you'll be at.

[magic pilot]

You lose catharsis but yea it's solid when stacked

Better for landmark farming than PvP

[languid zenith]

I know the answer is 100% no but is there any viable builds based around using the signature weapons? Preferably firewall flamethrower or survivalists crossbow

Can be tank, support or dps, just preferably something that isn't absoulte trash

[magic pilot]

FI uses crossbow a lot to break chunga armor and war hound

[indigo fjord]

Bold of you to assume I have friends

[dreamy valve]

Flamethrower build used to be better until they nerfed tip of the spear

Now you run out of fuel a lot faster

[languid zenith]

I've been making a list of ideas that might work but not be able to try them

[dreamy valve]

Player power has crept up each season that the specialization weapons get left behind more and more

Best to use them as utility weapons now for some of them

[languid zenith]

Ongoing Directive status effect can give ammo to signature weapon use

Negotiators dialemma maybe if the flamethrower can crit tagging

Hunters fury flamethrower

Eclipse protocol crossbow?

Those are my ideas to try so far

[terse scroll]

can i do anything with this? or is the health kinda messing it up from being a decent roll?

[onyx sage]

if you don't have anything better yeah. health is useless

[cerulean smelt]

reminds me someone was posting things like "healing hive/chem launcher/traps should heal health too" was trying to let them know devs would have to change making health mean something, which i think was changed because of Berzerk talent we used to have?

[onyx sage]

i think the healing trap does heal health actually

at least that's what i saw from the manhunt that you got it from

you take the eclipse virus damage and the trap actually heals that damage

[cerulean smelt]

don't think they understood that part, just said it would be nice to have our health healed instead of waiting until we're out of combat or whatever it is that fully recharges our health after some time

[onyx sage]

yeah i know, just wanted to note that the healing trap is the only skill that heals health itself

but yeah health doesn't really mean much in this game, not anymore

[cerulean smelt]

you know i totally forgot about that manhunt XD

[shy willow]

It's quite a tedious one

[languid zenith]

I've also asked in the other discord but theoretically would this perform somewhat well?

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/KwFgtAjATGAMkPkuLlrgLmMVCKQGZ1kZjMCA2SUhGADirKc2AOt2c-P2hXy84YCPGvw7imGARKkS5SWdLQYA7BihLF8uEA

I mean I feel like it's probably the best you could do for an actual flamethrower build but probably still sucks

[shy willow]

No😭

[languid zenith]

Fair enough

Cant blame me for trying

[shy willow]

Ninjabike is bad enough on its own but you're also taking two of the worst sets in the game and making them even worse by mixing 😭

If you want a good fire build you can try an eclipse setup

[languid zenith]

I mean ninjabike being bad is debatable and always has been but I get your point

The point is to try and make a somewhat viable builds using a signature weapon not specifically fire damage

[shy willow]

You don't get enough ammo to build entirely around sig weapons

They're relegated to utility

Tac 50 for building HH chains, crossbow for instantly breaking plates etc

[languid zenith]

I'm aware, that's why I'm trying to see if I can try something new, never hurts to try

[subtle bluff]

You're losing: a BP Talent and up 2x Attributes and a Brandset bonus
To gain: Up to 2x Brandset bonus and/or +1 gearset and both other cores

Here's my best example of NBB kind winning but then losing again.

You can get more HSD and MMR Dmg with NBB but then Talent.
4x Hotshot + 2x Habsburg = HSD 133 MMR 50
With NBB 3x Hotshot, 2x Breaking, 1x Habsburg = HSD 153 MMR 75 but no 25% TWD = less damage.

[cerulean smelt]

as a safety thing i would list the 2 talents where we're losing the damage talent(s), just assuming the backpack talent of Vigilence but considering if a player is fairly new and don't quite understand the 25% TWD damage loss part

[subtle bluff]

It's soo hard to explain in words I think

IDK what's the best way to do it.

[cerulean smelt]

i get it honestly, like i know what i want to say, but i don't know how i want to say it so it gets across XD

[subtle bluff]

I should make a quick clip of that build with NBB and then just changing to Vigl BP and showing the dmg.

[cerulean smelt]

i almost feel there should be a channel dedicated to "why the hate on ninjabike backpack" and have that explained in it XD

[cerulean smelt]

that probably wouldn't be a bad idea. similar builds and stats only thing changed is the backpack if it's possible? just one of the many things people probably don't see damage wise

[shy willow]

It could be understood if people knew the damage formula but generally people don't know or care

[cerulean smelt]

i don't know it, even if you typed it out or sent me an image of the formula complete with parenthesis it'll literally go over my head
even if you explained it like you were explaing it to a 1st grader

[subtle bluff]

Ya I've thinking if there a way to do "For Dummies" it's still a thought

[hexed steppe]

use demo class and let the spec grenade launcher work. it keeps topping off anytime you pop npc shield,. its kinda perfect for the event. as a bonus you can have a lot more flexibility in the build you choose.

its also easy to ricochet those grenades behind cover if npc is hiding

[subtle bluff]

I did it.. I gave it even a worse build when I took off NBB.

[azure plank]

motivation man, I should start my 3d art as well

[azure kelp]

Hey can anyone suggest me a good build I’m a returning player after a year 1/2 and I wanted to know a good solo build I can run through content with

[peak meadow]

Striker's Battle Gear is often recommended

[azure kelp]

Yeah I have my old one still, but don’t know how good it is still

[peak meadow]

It's the top DPS set for most content

Raiders are divided on whether or not high end DPS builds are better in the context of iron horse, but my friends make the guides and they say that high end DPS beats it outright since you can't build stacks there.

Two alternatives are Ongoing Directive builds and Heartbreaker builds, but I think they play second fiddle if you're going to solo content.

[peak meadow]

Thanks, Mr Chow, but if he's going to solo, wouldn't Memento be better than Coyote's Mask

[subtle bluff]

More player depended.

[azure kelp]

Player dependent as in groups?

[peak meadow]

No, he meant it's more dependent on your use case

[little scroll]

Is this the go to for solo heroic, 5 directives?

[bright raptor]

no, a sniper build is

[patent fossil]

ongoing directive works well too

[manic lantern]

Does anyone have interesting one shot builds? Right now i used this, but I dont like how unreliable it is.

Thinking about switching to handbasket with hotshot, but dunno

[bright raptor]

I used this a bunch before setting up Headhunter Hunter's Fury and tried Turmoil with it a bunch too

yeah I prefer Hunter's Fury to it since Turmoil makes the lows even worse

[stiff jasper]

First I don't understand which weapon you want, if you run with pistol then why not dodge city

[ebon coyote]

Anyone got a build idea for the blue screen lmg, been copying rougegolde one for his master solo run but not sure if there is something better

[manic lantern]

I want to switch to sniper rifle, because pistols are starting to piss me off

[subtle bluff]

hotshot

[manic lantern]

vest is most likely chainkiller, but what about backpack, how much it required?

[subtle bluff]

keep the chest and bp the rest hotshot

[manic lantern]

👍

[tight jackal]

is there somewhere where i can look up all the dz/pvp exclusive gear

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messags

[pseudo shard]

The set up bp is a good choice for sniper

[manic lantern]

im using gift atm

[bright raptor]

well if you got a Gift then use that

[subtle bluff]

works fine. The ideal one for more dmg with Chainkiller is brandset that give MMR. Forgive I'm not looking it up

[manic lantern]

Honestly works way better then pistol one, feel way less frustation.

[hasty coral]

I'm trying to clean up duplicates in my inventory for various guns and gear pieces - I've been out of the loop for a while so I'm not sure what's considered good to keep. Is there a resource out there that will provide some sort of guidance on what core attributes and talent are recommended per gear piece/gun or what generally advisable to keep. I know its highly subjective but I don't want to trash something that I will regret later.

[subtle bluff]

keep ones with DTTooC already on it.

[hasty coral]

I remember that much

[subtle bluff]

Things with double Crit

[placid latch]

You are asking which are the unicorn

You need to know 2 things

which build are good and which gear from those good build are difficult to get

[hasty coral]

well could be but like if I have 3 of something, which to keep for now that can be rotated out for something better when I loot it. I figured its better to have at least an item of each thing even if not optimal so iif I needed I can use it until I get a better version

[hasty coral]

ya I guess that is another way of saying what I'm looking for

[steady ridge]

I made a breaking point build

Ngl kinda underrated

[hasty coral]

Also i noticed named pistols have all exact same stats or each type - is that a bug, do I just mark them as just or is there a reason to keep multiple copies of the name pistol?

[placid latch]

Use this spread sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?gid=1925112187#gid=1925112187 for knowing which core attribute they have

I had once a data sheet with the drop chance of each attribute depending from the brand but the link isn't valid anymore

Know that the chest piece and the back pack are the most difficult to get (the other are fairly easy to get since you only have 2 or 3 attributes and you can change one so you can keep one and scrap the other), keep all DZ named piece for the moment (those are more difficult to obtain and should be picked one by one)

[dreamy grotto]

i enjoy in with OD set and with dilemma set - both good

[versed glacier]

Anyone knows where I can get more materials to craft this?
I looked quite a lot around and looked up on reddit. But there seems to be no way to get yaahl gear easily without it dropping from dz I think.

[hasty coral]

Is there a current bug that prevents you from deconstructing one item at a time. Item is not a favorite but I cannot deconstruct

[cerulean smelt]

pretty much that or hoping the clan vendor sells a piece

[fossil narwhal]

someone have a good build tank shotgun here ?

[cerulean smelt]

think conflict as well?

[cerulean smelt]

you can take your chance at getting this through named caches

[wooden finch]

yaahl works like any other dz (more like pvp) locked gear piece/weapon

so manhunt targets, legacy caches, conflict, named caches, dz etc

[cerulean smelt]

don't recall ever getting any yahl with manhunt targets honestly, but the dz stuff you mentioned i kind of figured

[wooden finch]

the only piece you can get is the mask in the screenshot, since its the named item from them that can be ”dz only” stuff

so very rare

[copper holly]

Anyone got a ongoing directive bluescreen build

[bright raptor]

Pinned post here, The Spreadsheet 2 -> Hub -> Builds -> Ongoing Directive, replace main weapon with Bluescreen

[dreamy grotto]

what is even the question? 4 pcs OD and slap there bluescreen - now you have od bluescreen build) add ceska or grupo backpack + coyote, or contractors

[tawdry hedge]

new to div 2, is striker build really good for dps or something?

[onyx sage]

yes

[tawdry hedge]

how to farm striker items?

is it the targeted loot thing

[onyx sage]

yes, farm in countdown challenging with matchmaking

[dreamy valve]

Yeah I got

It’s very fortunate that I saw your request since I’m the only one that pretty much have this playstyle as my main build

[cerulean smelt]

i can imagine after you get your alphabridge it'll be that much stronger

or the catalyst?

[hexed steppe]

Clan vendor also sells yaahl from time to time

[violet grail]

The EB can roll dmg to targets out of cover now right

[tulip charm]

yes

[quasi scaffold]

hello, can i have some help on doing a build?

i do play with Striker Drone and Restorer Hive

and this is ym build right now

(i just got level 40 now)

[tulip charm]

What do you want to do

[quasi scaffold]

i wanna keep those if possible

[tulip charm]

Like playstyle wise

Oh

[quasi scaffold]

oh uhm... supportive i guess? i do wanna heal

[tulip charm]

Ok so first would be to get a dps set that is extremely easy to build to build whatever desire.

After that you can go an future initiative build

which is bis support/healer build imo

[quasi scaffold]

oh ok

what should i build for a dps one then?

[subtle bluff]

First off you need a make a build to be able to do some farming. Then once you got one that's you can do some stuff make FI it's the go to support build.

[quasi scaffold]

FI?

[subtle bluff]

If you check out the Pinned Messages there's a bunch of build guides in there.

Sorry.
Future Initiative

[quasi scaffold]

oh oki tytyty

[tulip charm]

Striker

[quasi scaffold]

and uhm question:
what should i do with equipments?

[tulip charm]

Use it as library fodder

[quasi scaffold]

like sell or dismantle or the tinkering station

[tulip charm]

tinkering station

Gotta fill out the library

[quasi scaffold]

okokokokokokok

so the ebst thing to do is keep play in normal

till i ahve a buildthen i can go up with difficulty?

[white pollen]

Just got the TDI "Kard" Custom pistol, which has +1 skill tier as one of the core attributes. I equip it, and I'm not seeing the skill tier reflected anywhere (on a all-red build). Is this maybe just a stats UI bug or am I trippin'?

[tulip charm]

Exactly

[subtle bluff]

Only weapons in your hand give you it's stats/talents

[tulip charm]

You can also try your luck on getting carried in countdown

[white pollen]

hm, damn. Thanks!

[quasi scaffold]

what s that

[subtle bluff]

Make sure you go get the rest of your SHD Skills at some point too.

If you go into my bio there's YT PL for starters if you want to watch that.

[tulip charm]

8 man content and you can get loads of loot there

[quasi scaffold]

ooh how can i start it?

[visual scroll]

Anyone got anyone ouroboros builds they can share ? Just got one and have no clue what to really go for.

[tulip charm]

Its top right of the map

and matchmake in challenging and pray that you dont get kick

assuming that you do get into a run just follow the team.

[quasi scaffold]

oh nonononono as a healer i will stay totally behind!!

[median igloo]

I'm still sad about reclaimer not being brought back in Div 2

[tulip charm]

you can target loot in there by holding h on over the countdown icon on the map or and picking future or striker

[quasi scaffold]

i have ability power at 6 so i think i can give big heals i hope

[tulip charm]

Also Do not use striker drone or turrent in that mode

You'll wipe the party

[quasi scaffold]

ok i can use the hive heal and the seeker mine heal

[tulip charm]

thats fine.

[median ginkgo]

Heya. Returning to the game after a few years. Any good Bakers Dozen builds? I dont have a decent AR yet

[quasi scaffold]

"The Summit" right?

[solar sable]

Countdown, green circle

[quasi scaffold]

opsiees tyty

[white pollen]

Check the pinned spreadsheet & stuff for builds

[hexed steppe]

negotiators dilemma. just move to a classic m1a or m1a cqb with boomerang for better damage

highend also works well for rifle

[thorn pivot]

what iis a good alternative to the Lexington?

[onyx sage]

famas, police m4, f2000

[hexed steppe]

st elmo

[viscid coral]

I didn't get a lexington. Is there any way to get one?

[onyx sage]

not now

[thorn pivot]

can you get any exotic weapons to roll with dmg to out of cover:?

[shy willow]

Except LMGs any can roll with it as a third attribute

If not you can reconfigure to try and roll it on

[hexed steppe]

so i been running bluescreen on my OD setup. its pretty decent, but im wondering what skills work as a good trigger. currently emp sticky/jammer but i feel either kinda supersedes the bluescreen status. im thinking maybe a riot chem may be good as a trigger, but i never really ran BS. knowing this crew, i know someone has a good strategy for it

[subtle bluff]

Banshee Pulse

[placid latch]

even a hive or a chem launcher work

oxidizer, fire, banshee pulse, stinger hive

drone and turret too

decoy

seeker mine can also work

throw it at their feet, you will stun them, mine will deal some damage and finish them

[hexed steppe]

i was thinking chem because its got multiple charges . current setup has pretty long cooldowns

[placid latch]

you can pick up the hive

you don't have any Skill tier

[hexed steppe]

fair point

[dreamy grotto]

idk, i use healing chem - as its 3 charges, and you can drop it not equipping the chem launcher

[terse scroll]

question, for umbra gear set, what attributes am i looking for?

armor core and chc/chd?

[frozen flume]

im running 5r / 2b / 1y with ninjabike and it works well for me chc up to as close to cap as possible then chd.

[drowsy lion]

best way to farm the armor for the pestilence build?

[worn mango]

Which one is that?

The red rolled glass cannon lengmo?

If so it's countdown really and just pray

[stuck pagoda]

My build is fairly makeshift, havent tried to build, but is this good? SHD 11

I am using the bulwark set

5 of them, all but mask

[dreamy grotto]

dont bother with builds till you finish wony and get to lvl40

[stuck pagoda]

...

shd

lvl 11

as in post keener

[stuck pagoda]

lol

[onyx sage]

gear sets like bulwark don't bring you any additional benefit beyond 4 pieces

[stuck pagoda]

The reason I did 5 is because the 5th peace gave me a decent boost

[onyx sage]

bulwark itself isn't a useful set anyway.

go to the pinned sheet in this channel, the Hub tab has most builds you'll ever want, make the Striker's Battlegear build in the Red section

the 5th doesn't give you anything

[stuck pagoda]

...

[onyx sage]

the set maxed out at 4p

[stuck pagoda]

THE PIECE ITSELF HAVE ME A BOOST IN ARMOR

[onyx sage]

then take off 1 piece

[hazy steeple]

Yarr?

[stuck pagoda]

bruv

[hazy steeple]

Make that 5th piece walk the plank.

[onyx sage]

you can get an armor piece from another brand

that gives you the same thing + even more

[stuck pagoda]

ima kurt cobain myself I plan on actuallz making a build, thats just what I have

[onyx sage]

we know

[stuck pagoda]

I PLAN on making a build, I was asking how it was rn

[hazy steeple]

Bad.

[onyx sage]

the short answer is go to the sheet pinned here and make a build from that

[hazy steeple]

tl;dr 5 pieces of a Gearset is not the right amount of pieces.

[drowsy lion]

Is this useable or does it need glass cannon? its cc/cd

[indigo fjord]

Question. is a 4% loss in CHC worth a 10% increase in CHD? Making me 56% CHC and 121.7% CHD

[solar sable]

that's ok

[tulip charm]

No terrible talent

[drowsy lion]

okay i figured. i got a pair of gloves that are cc/cd can i use them or do i need to have chest back pack and holster for my lengmo pieces?

[tulip charm]

I mean gloves are useable but you'll be running contractors

[split plume]

which build would be better for the dark hours raid?

[lethal anvil]

How does this concept for a tank gearset sound?

2 piece:
+% armor

3 piece:
+% armor regen

4 piece:
+% damage mitigation based on 200 armor you have. When you deployed the shield, you create threat/aggro.

Chest bonus:
Increase the % damage mitigation

Bag bonus:
Increase the % armor regen

Note: PvP could be different than PvE if it's too powerful

[narrow bough]

So i decided to put a dilemma build with obliterate, the rifle with the burst fire rate, boomerang and i have to say, it is absolutely phenomenal how it works. The stacks are going up really fast.

Anyone who paired dilemma with glass cannon?

[median ginkgo]

what weapon snould I pair with my Elmo? RIght now I am striker

[bold leaf]

I would recommend Coyote and a Ceska chest. Dark Hours doesn't need the Striker chest and you're always better off with ceska if it's the only high end piece

[split plume]

wouldnt I rather run grupo?

[bold leaf]

Not sure how exactly to explain it but in the majority of scenarios unless you're already overloaded with crit chance, ceska is the better option

[split plume]

I got 58 chc

[bold leaf]

Are you using crit chance mods?

[split plume]

only on the grupo chest piece

[bold leaf]

Ok so in that case a ceska chest would allow you to swap that mod for crit damage. It is only a tiny difference but also the ceska piece will be more versatile for other builds 👍🏻

[tulip charm]

58? Are you running smg?

[violet grail]

Anybody still use EB in the DZ? What build do u use?

[wooden finch]

the guns are in the screenshot. its the attachments from st elmos boosting most likely

[subtle bluff]

The btter question is how much CHD

[karmic osprey]

i use it with an all red strikers with coyotes masks and a groupo chest with obliterate

[tulip charm]

if its mainly elmo he's running an extra chc mod somewhere

or running chc attribute

[wooden finch]

man?

[subtle bluff]

Someone isn't look at his gear stats correctly

[subtle bluff]

TBF Grupo works just fine not min-max. It's 2nd behind Ceska.

[split plume]

is that for the entire build the chc?

cause I was looking at the chc of the st elmos

cause I mostly use it

[tulip charm]

Thats if you run all chd

[split plume]

I only have 1 chc mod

[tulip charm]

then you should be around 51 if max chc from watch bonus

[tulip charm]

yeah 2 chc on gear

[subtle bluff]

Um.. 👀

[tulip charm]

Oh you're running chc on third atrribute too

[split plume]

wait

yeah

[tulip charm]

:/

[subtle bluff]

Numbers don't lie to us 😛

[split plume]

so erm

what was the topic again

[subtle bluff]

The reason we run with Ceska vs Grupo.

For you you have too much CHC because of Coyote gives more.

[split plume]

I run with grupo cause I've ran with it since i started playing

people told me not to

but for me feels like grupo is the perfect balance

[split plume]

how would I have too much though?

its not 60% +

[subtle bluff]

60% is hard cap

If we're reading Coyote it'll give more CHC so sitting around 50-54% is good for it

or if you don't care just run both Grupo and a Cheska and sit close to CHC cap is good

[split plume]

I do mostly use the dark winter too

but started using the rock n roll

for striker stacks

[split plume]

also is this like a website?

cause I lwky need it

[subtle bluff]

2nd is w/e if normal PvE both acs12 or an smg work

I use a Elmo/SMG or Lex/Ouro

[split plume]

what about 2 lexingtons with a 12x scope?

[subtle bluff]

in fight where I know I can get stacks I'll just use elmo and acs12

[split plume]

where do you do this

[subtle bluff]

https://mxswat.github.io/ is the old one where I showed Coyote
The new on is https://buildstation.app/
It still very much in beta we have a lot work to do on it.

[worn mango]

When you've been loving HB TechTank, thinking then getting some more damage with Strikers and of course iKia has a short on it from like a month ago

Not that it's rocket science to use three blue strikers with a memento but it really didn't dawn on me. Chamelon is a nice touch though

[subtle bluff]

I was a TechTank main but it very much one of my main playstyles.

[split plume]

so should I change my holster attribute to chd?

since its chc

[worn mango]

Just so good for solo and aggressive

I'll facetank anything now lol

[subtle bluff]

I only use my for leggo mission and groups. Otherwise I just kill everything

[worn mango]

It's good for leggo yeah? I don't play it often or at all honestly

[subtle bluff]

It take more gameplay to do right.

[onyx sage]

yes

[cedar hemlock]

So I was told this was a great build and ive had alot of fun with it on Hard but as soon as I changed to Challenging I was smashed by random mobs from regular reds to purples to yellows.

chatter with ninja. 3 hunters and 2 brazos

elmininating everything without thinking on hard but having a rough time on challenging

changed some of the attribues on my brazos for blue for more survivabilaty but no go

[white adder]

Does anyone have a good build for a newer player going into the dead zone?

[subtle bluff]

Dark Zone?

[subtle bluff]

Someone told you wrong. That isn't a great build. It could be fun build but that's it really.

[white adder]

Yeah my bad.

[subtle bluff]

Making sure you're on the right game.
I'm not a big PvP so I don't have good advice for new DZ players all I say is that PvP in TD2 is very different from PvE. Different builds and playstyle is really big for PvP

[kindred escarp]

Who ever told you that was lying, adding blues makes the whole thing worse. I was wondering why you are using Spike on chest but you are SHD 34 so what you want to do when you can is bin Ninja Bike BP and those two Brazos piece.

[cedar hemlock]

Well that sucks

[white adder]

I’m not interested in PvP I just want to level up in the dark zone and try to get exotics.

[kindred escarp]

do countdown.

[cedar hemlock]

oh well.. gonna leave the game for now anyways.. maybe check back with the DLC

lets see what happens

😄

[white adder]

Ok thanks

[subtle bluff]

Not that much more stuff and story stuff. You should get a better build you'll have more fun see body dropping.

[kindred escarp]

It's a game that is heavily build dependent, all you need to know is a bit of theory and have some experience and you'll be fine.

[cedar hemlock]

It was alot of fun tho

😄

[kindred escarp]

Well Hunter's fury can be fun on Heroic as well, just not that build lol.

[cedar hemlock]

(until challening difficulty)

ill check back in a few weeks. Now its back to WoW and Pubg

[drowsy lion]

Is armor on striker gear good for solo play?

[cedar hemlock]

Thanks for all the response on my build you guys. You're the goats!

[subtle bluff]

Not really. Doing more DPS is important.

[kindred escarp]

Not really.

[drowsy lion]

So coyote mask with 4 piece striker and a fenrir chest is my best bet?

[subtle bluff]

I will just say there a lot more about this game due how this game works and guns. It's not super straight forwards. GL HF

[subtle bluff]

No Fenrir. Ceska Chest

[drowsy lion]

With obliterate?

what skills do i use with it?

[subtle bluff]

That's more player-dependent.

Shield, Rez hive, decoy, EMP stuff, etc etc

[drowsy lion]

and i should use firewall correct?

[subtle bluff]

No and yes? Again player-dependent. There is right or wrong answer to these question.

Try them out

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say just think of specializations as something part of your playstyle honestly

[narrow bough]

Is it worth to try get some improvised piece for my build?

I am running dilemma with rifle. Currently sitting at 189 hit damage and 57 hit chance.

[subtle bluff]

Why would you

[narrow bough]

I am just asking since i never tried it.

[subtle bluff]

It just gives a mod slot.

[narrow bough]

And i have couple of maxed out for hit damage and hit chance that i could slap to it.

[subtle bluff]

Brandset do more CHC and CHD than Gear Mods do

Gear mod is 6/12
Ceska/Grupo 8/13

[narrow bough]

Thank you

[drowsy lion]

i have 49.6% cc and 154.2 cd. do i swap a cd mod for a cc mod on my chest piece?

[subtle bluff]

I always sit the closest I can get to CHC cap.

[azure plank]

chameleon with striker build work as well right?

[subtle bluff]

most things work well with strikers

[dusky raven]

what a good dps and armour build?

[subtle bluff]

Heartbreaker

[azure plank]

What if I did 64 body shot and suddenly one shot missed to leg/head and next shot again in body. Will it count as 65 body shot? or it'll count from beginning?

[subtle bluff]

When you're firing the weapon look at the weapon there's a bar.

[azure plank]

Which headshot build you guys are using? Or oneshot sniper build?

[solar sable]

HH/Hotshot

[tulip charm]

its just abusing headhunter and determined

many different ways in building it

[patent gull]

What’s a really good endgame dps build for pve

[solar sable]

striker's

other builds: nego, ongoing directive or regular HE

[patent gull]

What should I pair it with? Exotic wise

[solar sable]

St Elmo's is the basic fit

[wooden finch]

you dont need exotics for every build

but coyotes mask is a good gearpiece, and as mentioned st. elmos is a very solid gun

[patent gull]

Sweet, I came up with this

[solar sable]

Full Build:
4pc Striker's
Coyote's Mask
Ceska Chestpiece with Obliterate

Specialization: Up to personal preference, Gunner is recommended for Armor on Kill and Ammo Pouch.

Attributes: Crit DMG first and Crit Chance (CHD/CHC)

[solar sable]

switch Fenris for Ceska Oblit

[patent gull]

Literally amazing, thank you!

[solar sable]

np!

[patent gull]

I always feel like I could put my dps up more, doesn’t help that it’s only been a day since I started grinding since I’ve finished WONY

[thorn pivot]

for attribute is 8% dmg out of cover better than 10% crit dmg?

[hazy steeple]

@thorn pivot Yep!

You can apply that to just about every weapon in the game. That may change in the future, but right now it's the "meta".

[thorn pivot]

thank youu

im trynna build a orobouros build

[subtle bluff]

It's more specially a different dmg stats that'll make a bigger change on your damage vs CHD which you already have.

[hazy steeple]

@thorn pivot It's great on a Hunters Fury setup, as it's focused around closer ranges.
There's a full guide for it in the spreadsheet that's 📌 pinned in this channel

[thorn pivot]

oh ye im lookin at it right now

im just tired of Striker

lowkey bored of it tbh

[hazy steeple]

That is the great thing about div2 right now, a shed-ton of builds are very Heroic-capable.

Personal shout-out to Ongoing Directive (OD) with a Memento backpack+Sadist LMG.

[thorn pivot]

im running OD + Bluescreen on everytime i play Legendary now, its wwayyy much more fun than Striker

[dreamy grotto]

this. Bluescreen is so cool

[thorn pivot]

fr, so fun to use

lots of CC

[ashen turret]

I know it's not the meta but which build makes the pestilence most efficient? I just love it

[dreamy grotto]

ppl will suggest 3pcs lengmo
i stick with general high end setup, and still have like 900k ticks

[worn mango]

The Lengmo build looks super fun but getting that chest piece is dirty

[placid latch]

which piece is it ?

[worn mango]

That chest you need. Double crit with glass lol

Same as getting a double crit Grupo with unbreakable almost

[ashen turret]

what do you mean with general high end? just pieces that will improve the tick or such?

[worn mango]

Just HE red build but instead of an AR you use Pesti

[dreamy grotto]

general high end its something like: coyote+grupo+ceska + foxes+contractors

[ashen turret]

oh ok, thanks!

[subtle bluff]

Here’s the easier version to farm.

Chest is either obi or go

[ashen turret]

obi or go?

[subtle bluff]

Obi or GC sorry

For Chest talent

[ashen turret]

aaah I thought brands and was very confused

[subtle bluff]

I need to make more of these for Pesti. This is the easier version to farm

[ashen turret]

thank you very much!

[subtle bluff]

The kneelpads being fox’s or something is better but Lengmo chest is hard to farm.

[worn mango]

Yeah that chest is silly. Could use the other version while farming if you want a fully optimized setup

[subtle bluff]

The BP imo I think Vigil is better but Backbone does net more tick dmg. But also is really hard to farm too.

[subtle bluff]

I got one with obi. I want GC.

[worn mango]

I mean of a great second option lol

I had one earlier with GC and two red, it was handling and headshot

I was gutted

[subtle bluff]

Oof. I got a CG one but it’s blue core.

[magic pilot]

Chat this any good?

[worn mango]

You're the worst

[subtle bluff]

This is what I have atm. I switch the drone with a striker drone since Skill Health is good for something.

[worn mango]

Centurion and those knees huh

[subtle bluff]

I don't use the build too much

solo stuff normally bored

I'm use to switch due to one of my speeds strats I do.

[subtle bluff]

You think a blue GC is pretty worth to run?

[urban latch]

It hasn't been recalibrated yet

[worn mango]

To be honest I might not even use that build but it's something to target in CD now that I'm done my library again

Pistol reload speed was the bane of that thing

[magic pilot]

I'm gonna craft a vigi backpack too

[worn mango]

You can craft Lengmo?

[magic pilot]

Yea

Unfortunately I switched to pc one season too late to craft elextrique though

It haunts me every night

[worn mango]

I'm surprised they've never added the ability to unless this is still something you can get from descent

[ashen turret]

oh shit, backbone is actually a named version of the lengmo backpack, til that's a thing

[magic pilot]

Nope

[magic pilot]

Yea that's what most people use

[shrewd kelp]

Is there a way to put attributes on the 3rd empty attribute slot or do I have to find them?

[dim bloom]

hey, what did you use to make this?

[coral reef]

Is this any good on heroic with groups?

[onyx sage]

yes

it's not a build I would recommend you farm rn though. the pieces are hard to drop

[coral reef]

i actually have both guns... the mask I have tried farming before with no luck

[subtle bluff]

https://buildstation.app
Still in beta not everything works corrects.

[dim bloom]

That looks really cool, thanks for sharing

[subtle bluff]

My version of pesti is just fitting a playstyle that I already do. Not needed nor is recommended if new.
Pesti can be used with Strikers just fine. This HE pesti build is something when you're done with most of your main build and want something to farm.

[indigo fjord]

Found in the wild

[cerulean smelt]

think i got the holster/chest and backpack for providence, contractor's gloves, used to be fox's but i've been addicted to Turmoil with it and grupo mask but i put a coyotes until we can get my hands on the alphabridge 👀

[indigo fjord]

Fair enough

[cerulean smelt]

oh different 2 weapons as well XD

[indigo fjord]

🤣

[versed flame]

pvp??

[worn mango]

Really digging this Striker TechTank for just mobbing around now. With how janky HB stacks are this is so much easier lol

[subtle bluff]

I did Tech Tank first with Strike but since the context I use it the most was in leggo 4man I opt for HB for just the armor buffer.

[worn mango]

That makes sense

I'm just mucking about and using it still with laser on Lexi with Spotter on chest instead of Oblit, kinda fun

[topaz mist]

this gonna work?

[worn mango]

Hard to pass up Microwave Coils lol

I feel like this is opposing forces coming together