td2-build-advice

[placid latch]

In order to feel like a MC from time to time

[dreamy grotto]

its super fun with 1886 rifle

[vale sapphire]

Hey, just got my character to 40 the other day and spent the last 2 days working on this build i found online, any tips for the build and where to go from here to increase the dmg and maybe make it a little more tanky if possible?

[vocal flax]

Well from the start if you want to be more tanky, you can swap your chest talent for Unbreakable talent (basicaly insta regenrates your armor to full on PvE and i think to 60% on PvP)

[fresh fox]

start lowering your armor core amount

i don’t recommend changing anything

the best way to get a little more tanky while keeping some damage would be swapping from coyotes to exodus gloves from the season pass

and use striker mask + exodus instead

i wouldn’t swap off obliterate

as a new player

[signal pelican]

I run a different set up but it works. I like memento.

[vale sapphire]

is my above build capable of legendary?, also thanks for all the tips, ill look into and test them

[bright raptor]

Memento works solo but is less reliable if you can't secure kills and the trophies in groups

[signal pelican]

True

[bright raptor]

listen to compton, Legendary is as much about understanding how the mission spawns work as it is about builds

[signal pelican]

I like the ninja bike backpack you can make some insane builds with that thing.

[bright raptor]

and the way many players play even 6 blues can't save them from kissing the floor

[signal pelican]

I go max damage 1886 for legendary.

[vale sapphire]

would you suggest i drop the blues and go reds then for legendary?

[bright raptor]

Yes, once you figure out how to maximize the Exodus talent it's actually more useful than blue cores

[vocal flax]

A bit of a change of the topic, Im trying to make a PvP shotgun build but i dont really know what to use it with, ofc a piece of badger and a shotgun with brazen but thats pretty much it.

[vale sapphire]

okay, thank you, much appreciated for the help

[fresh fox]

coyotes mask
matador named dz item
badger tuff chest with intimidate or zero f (perfect unbreakable)
grupo
ceska
foxes

4 blues 2 reds

all chd/chc

with firewall

[vocal flax]

Thank you, now I know where to start from

[signal pelican]

This is my 1886 build I use in legendary anything recommended changes?

I use chain killer and fox and eagle grasp

[fresh fox]

dropping ninja bike for a vigi bag

1pc palisade
foxes
chain killer
2pc zwia
either providence or a walker piece

[hexed steppe]

for some reason, i copied my mortar as a template build guide and proceeded to edit the guide that was linked instead of the new one. this is a corrected version for Mortar Explosive - BTSU/PCA variant https://share.evernote.com/note/a4553961-c5c0-1956-7b54-7b5b80fcd08f

@hazy hull , this is the build i was mentioning the other day 👆, finally got it fixed.
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[cobalt narwhal]

It says I need to request access

[hexed steppe]

try now, didnt permission it proper

[versed flame]

Little damage, why the shield?It will be demolished

[signal pelican]

Overcharge makes it unbreakable

@versed flame

[cobalt narwhal]

it's working. Getting g used to the build, feels good now especially with friends

[versed flame]

on the legendary??)))))))

[signal pelican]

Yeah

Also can one tap them

[hexed steppe]

yeah, once you have a good handle on the targeting and travel time, then you shift into demolishing spawns and surgical strikes

[hexed steppe]

current modifiers make it real easy to oc, especially on demand if using overdrive

[cobalt narwhal]

Yeah I noticed so kooky I love it

[versed flame]

OK, but this is not a build!This is unintelligible nonsense.

[hexed steppe]

no doubt. BTW, thanks for bringing that to my attention the other day. its been messed up for a couple weeks and i would have not known otherwise , much appreciated

[vague root]

Hello! I got an idea for a build and i'm trying to get some feedback (fyi i'm basically a noob in this game). The idea is to go for an LMG armor-on-kill kind of playstyle.
I'm currently sitting on a 3pc Hunter's Fury, 2pc Lengmo and Ninjabike. Pestilence being my main gun for now, tho i am looking at Preservation as a gun talent and wondering if it might be better.
Spec is Gunner just for that 10% extra armor on kill and the Banshee Pulse.
Right now i'm somewhat struggling to clear anything above Hard depending on what enemy group i'm facing and i wanted to get some suggestions. Feel free to tell me i'm dumb and i'm doing it all wrong xD

[cobalt narwhal]

No problem, thanks for helping me with the build, great change of pace.

[bright raptor]

well Hunter's Fury is intended for SMGs and shotguns so you are not playing to its strengths, especially as LMGs cannot be used with shields

[vague root]

Ye, i was using Emeline's Guard and Scorpio earlier but i really want to switch to an lmg, tought Hunter's talent giving me 45% at max stacks would still be good but it is def not keeping up

[bright raptor]

it's also a long process to get Lengmo gear with the right minor attribute mix for a worthwhile set

[versed flame]

Armor damage has been reduced, but the armor will still be destroyed!The principle of the game is to kill faster than they kill you!

[vague root]

What should i go for?

[magic pilot]

Your main issue is Ninjabike

[hexed steppe]

its not a great build, i agree... but its not totally without thought. ninja builds are flawed, but they are agent is focused on rifle damage and handling... is it worth more than vigilance, probably not. it is probably squeezing as much specific damage as possible tho (zoo 2pc, breakingpoint 2pc, fox's). also giving a small amount of survivability, and some dta for free

[magic pilot]

https://share.evernote.com/note/6e4e77de-a771-1143-00ee-bae7caf88927

[bright raptor]

if you double stacked Preservation + Gunner spec on any regular all red weapon DPS build you'd get 20% armor on kill immediately

of course, you have less overall armor but you'd still regen a bunch

[magic pilot]

Check that out for lmg

[versed flame]

Ninja can be played in PVP, it's even possible!In PVE, it's more of a minus.

[magic pilot]

It has good uses in PvP

Sniper, or umbra

Healer

[versed flame]

Umbra is also a PVP build.

[magic pilot]

Why are you thumbs-downing

That's what I just said.

Echo!

[hexed steppe]

you did read what i wrote, right?

[vague root]

Ok, at this point i'm just not wanting to use pestilence xD
Like i respect that it can be a dps powerhouse, but i don't want to do a red core build :/

[magic pilot]

You are going to struggle hard in this game without running red builds

[hexed steppe]

its not great, but not nonsense either

[vague root]

Ok fair, but is there an lmg that lets me do a more middle-way style?

[magic pilot]

Most of the builds people are going to recommend you will be full red

That's just because of how the game is balanced

[hexed steppe]

switch from lmg focus to ar focus and you can roll capacitor on a skill build. cap uses skilltier as red core

[versed flame]

I play on glass, in red builds, and that's it, armor,ninja- it has the right to life - why not??!but this is very inefficient.

[vague root]

Ok so verdict is, i'm going back to smg and shotgun

[amber crypt]

Super new to the game only level 15 but I’m curious are shield builds any good? Specifically on pvp?

[tulip charm]

Shd or level 15

[amber crypt]

Shd?

[tulip charm]

Oh youre new new

[amber crypt]

Yeaaaahhh 😂

[tulip charm]

Im gonna assume youre doing the campaign and didnt reach level 40 to unlock a watch

[amber crypt]

Yes main camping for now but looking forward to pvp and I like the shield a lot

[tulip charm]

Well shield is niche due to how it works in there so I wouldn’t worry about it until later after campaign

[magic pilot]

Shield doesn't work well in PvP generally

I would just focus on the story until you hit 40

[cinder halo]

Hi, can n e 1 shre run & gun build ?

[solar sable]

check pins (Spreadsheet)

[cinder halo]

I dnt c n e pin with title spreadsheet

[solar sable]

you don't what?
Whatever... here.

[cinder halo]

Hw 2 dwnlod dis sheet?

[magic pilot]

You don't need to download

[versed flame]

I don't quite understand which build you are looking for?

[cinder halo]

Run & gun. And MELT enemies while doing it.

[cinder halo]

It opens in desktop mode & can’t understand wer to find al builds

[glad heart]

In the Hub tab

[solar sable]

Hub (Builds)

[magic pilot]

Use the link in my bio

It's a little easier

[cinder halo]

Can u tell me of all the build their is on the list, which one is run & gun

[solar sable]

Red/DPS

[signal pelican]

Wasn't vigilance nerfed?

[solar sable]

no?

[cinder halo]

Sure?
Red means Glass & Vigil right

[onyx sage]

doesn't have to be

[hexed steppe]

red would be weapon damage type build. many talents give weapon damage

[subtle bluff]

Where are people getting this from?

[cinder halo]

Heartbreaker with red cores, wil be also called Red build

[subtle bluff]

Yup? But you have to make them red.

[cinder halo]

Any build with red cores r Red build.

Then Y in raids they call Red build as Glass/Vigil

[subtle bluff]

I always say if you can’t solo a heroic on a mostly red build without reviver then you’re not ready for solo leggo.

[cinder halo]

Which build u wil suggest for that.

[subtle bluff]

In raids you shouldn’t be on a blue core gear piece. Your main role is to dmg only.

[subtle bluff]

Red Strikers.

[cinder halo]

All the striker pieces?

[solar sable]

Look at the spreadsheet, it's just Red Striker's

[cinder halo]

Coyote is for team build right. For solo should be fox prayer knee?

& striker mask right?

[bright raptor]

because there is one specific red build setup all experienced raiders have on hand for general purpose DPS, that is not reliant on stack mechanics like Striker or Heartbreaker

no, use Coyote's anyway as the critical hit chance buff applies to yourself and you will need every crit chance source you can have

[cinder halo]

After 60% Coyote cric chance is useless right?

[bright raptor]

but you still get the crit damage anyway

[cinder halo]

So for solo Heroic u want me to use the build shared above as it is

[bright raptor]

yes

[dreamy grotto]

you can try different weapons and use that fit you (like sound, range, how it handles etc) for example i use build like that with chameleon\vector coz... i like vector)
Vector goes brrrrrrrrrrt

[subtle bluff]

No one is forcing you to do anything specific. But solo’ing a heroic with this build is very doable.

[cinder halo]

Your funny, do u hv girlfriend?

[hexed steppe]

you would use coyote or grupo

striker is crit starved setup

[cinder halo]

Ok.
I’ll change my striker to this.

For SMG oroboro which build u wil suggest

[cinder halo]

Wat u use for run & gun

[hexed steppe]

personally for dps i run negotiators primarily, legs ill use striker with chest/bag. with this seasons modifiers heartbreaker is pretty good with microwave coils and the 2 crit modifiers

if youre looking to tank a little damage setup heartbreaker, hunters fury, or umbra initiative

in a tech tank config

[cinder halo]

Heartbreaker gives extra dmg to pulse enemies right

[hexed steppe]

yes, it pairs well with flatline, but weapon kinda needs linked laser for pulsing to be efficient

so long underbarrel attachment

[cinder halo]

I created Umbra with Oroboro & in team it works, but solo acquiring enemy territory doesn work.

[hexed steppe]

umbra definitely hit or miss for me as well

[cinder halo]

I was looking for run & gun build for SMG, were I can run up to an enemy & melt him is sec, moving to nxt target

[hexed steppe]

this is what i use, but if you cant pulse, it wont be ideal

this config gives tier 4 shield and tier 2 artificer that repairs shield eevry 10 seconds passively

you would setup similar with hunters fury, but using a ceska obliterate chest and memento, rest would be hunters fury

[dreamy grotto]

tactical vector SBR 9mm is your choice

[solar sable]

I've been putting together mortar, but got a piece for oxy instead

I guess I'll never be part of Mortar Supremacy

[past ridge]

Hello everyone, I'm trying to go for a Heartbreaker build (replacing my Chainkiller Hotshot one, for Legendary activities). I have this so far, and I just get toasted everywhere roaming on the world map in Heroic when it was a breeze before. Am I getting something wrong, or it's just a matter of maxing more red cores and having more damage ?

My watch has 50 level of HDS for now, so no CHD/CHC yet from it

Heartbreaker stacks seems to go up quite slowly, may be i'm doing something wrong. I am using the Technician laser pointer

[bright raptor]

Is the laser pointer on both weapons? The only thing I can think of is opening fire with the shotgun much closer to enemies so more pellets connect and you stack faster for more armor and damage

[magic pilot]

crit stats seem low

[subtle bluff]

So the issues with HB vs Strikers for stacks is that Strikes get ROF buff which is big for stacking numbers.
With HB you want stacks. ACS12 is gonna be go to it really needs it to get everything going.

[past ridge]

So get close, spam the ACS12 to stack fast, behind the child to stay alive, and then switch to AR when 'needed?

I'll try and see how it goes thank you

[onyx sage]

yes

[cerulean smelt]

Remember you'll either have to get a headshot to pulse or you use the laser link pointer to pulse by aiming down sight or using a skill

[past ridge]

Ah wait, I need to aim with sight to pulse the target? It's just not only "hit with mod attached"?

That explains a lot of things....

[glossy scarab]

Yeah you put the laser on the gun and pointing the gun hits em with the laser pulse

[onyx sage]

🤯

[glossy scarab]

It really is that complicated

[hexed steppe]

one doesnt choose the mortar supremacy life, mortar supremacy chooses them.

Mortar Supremacy

[onyx sage]

i did not choose to be an average player...

[hexed steppe]

doesnt surprise me an average player didnt know this
keep learning rookie

[hexed steppe]

work on farming more optimal bag and holster to get rid of those blue attributes. your watch should fill in the gaps as you climb. these are my stats on an AR hb setup that utilizes memento, which doesnt have attribute rolls. you should be able to hit a 52/127-ish range once watch is full with the extra couple attributes

[cloud raptor]

How does one get the yaahl gloves

[solar sable]

Yaahl is dz exclusive

[hexed steppe]

farm dz. or wait till clan vendor sells a yaahl piece and buy enough to craft the right rolls

[past ridge]

The question was mostly "do I need to scope, or simply aiming works"

Like shooting from hip / scoping on a mmr

(for the tech laser to work)

[onyx sage]

just aiming works

but it's kinda finicky, you have to pan over them a few times for the pulse to work, it has a visual effect

[terse scroll]

when farming for gear, what attributes should I be looking for when trying to improve my hotshot/1shot build? Headshot DMG or CHC or CHD?

[feral anvil]

headshot dmg

[signal pelican]

If headshot damage then try get weapons handling. If crit piece try get crit damage and crit hit chance.

[white pollen]

When using perfect clutch, is the armor repair from kills passive / always-on, or is this part of the active proc effect (below 20% armor, crits repair 2.5% missing armor) ?

[onyx sage]

below 20% armor always active, after kill is when the limit extends to past 20%

[white pollen]

I have been sleepin' on that

[pastel basin]

For this build, for the second primary, what would be a good replacement that would work for pve really well that isn’t a AR? Such as a smg or lmg?

Exclusively for dark zone yk

[subtle bluff]

Doesn't really matter. You're just gonna is BH mostly. I

[terse scroll]

should i replace the dmg to armor with a maxed DtA mod or replace it with something else?

I haven't found a DTTOC maxed mod yet so can't put that in, should I hold off an doing anything to the gun until I find that mod?

[patent fossil]

You can recalibrate it to max dta now and then switch it to dtooc once it's available in your library

You can only recalibrate one slot per item but you can keep recalibrating that slot as much as you like

[terse scroll]

Ohh right cool

ty for explaining, that part has been confusing me 🙂

[thin grail]

should i reroll my lady death or is it good?

[subtle bluff]

always DTTooC

[magic pilot]

Sledgehammer on lefty

I gotta update those pics

[sullen sun]

Can someone post the Hardwired build from the spreadsheet?

[hazy steeple]

@sullen sun The Razorback one alright?

[sullen sun]

Gracias

[wild ridge]

what is the current optimal strikers setup

[vestal ibex]

It's pretty much the same. You can do some GC/vigi stuff but it's dependent on if you get hit/stacking/content.

[wild ridge]

Alr. Lexington still best ar?

[vestal ibex]

Yeah, was nerfed a bit but still top just by a little.

[wild ridge]

Alr. What about the kneepads that were added?

[glossy scarab]

works ok in a few specific builds

[vestal ibex]

It can be very good but it has some issues splitting damage to dead chungas or just around chungas in general. There is a bit of double dipping and value in shooting things you can't see and not having to aim at new targets helping out TTK a bit.

With HH it's pretty busted tho.

[wild ridge]

Gotcha

[vestal ibex]

I would say the new options with strikers like turmoil/GC/Vigi can be better but it's down to the user skill and situation. So it's hard to say really unless you can utilize them well.

[glossy scarab]

memento and turmoil with the rest being strikers or HB works when you have your stacks up

[wild ridge]

Got it

[onyx sage]

bro is back....

[fair dragon]

Brostreet boys

[wild lily]

I have a Pestilence/Vile with 4-piece OD and Contractor's going and wondering if Survival or Demo is the better spec for it based on Vile's dot being in part 50% of your grenade damage

[vestal ibex]

Demo will give you a small increase to vile ticks while survivalist will give you team a large amp to status affected enemies.

[wild ridge]

for like a week lol

[subtle bluff]

To note pesti tick is not a status effect.

[bright raptor]

if you read their message they're running it with Ongoing for the bleed status to trigger Vile

[slender fox]

can anyone help me with load outs just got back into the game

[slender fox]

This is my loadout now

[dusk jasper]

I normally like to use a rifle as my secondary weapon but I don’t know what’s the best one now I haven’t played in almost 4 years

So what’s the best rifle now?

[bright raptor]

with the exception of Merciless they're all alright, they still have a ton of recoil but at least the risk of a repetitive strain injury is much lower now with the "auto" conversion

[subtle bluff]

It's all about your playstyle.

[honest moss]

Honestly this is a bit all over the place but i do see 2 piece striker so that is a good start for a dps build. Try getting 4 piece striker and use the bag but not the chest, as for chest talent i would suggest obliterate(more dps) or unbreakable(adds survival)

Chest brand would ideally be ceska or grupo but starting out i wouldn't stress too much. For the attributes you want crit hit chance and crit hit damage as a good mix. Ideally something like 50%+ CHC and the rest in CHD. The 50% will be higher once you get your watch filled out so don't worry too much.

If you find survivability is an issue then you can try hunter's fury or heartbreaker, both are great gearsets with good dps and added survival perks.

[slender fox]

Is there a possible way you could hop in a discord call and show me if I share my screen

I’m trying to work on a pve build

[honest moss]

As for guns, chameleon is fine but if possible try to get your hands on a st. Elmos engine (exotic assault rifle), it is a great weapon to have until you get more familiar with stuff. Or for high end, try out any you find really. Plenty of space to work with weapons once you have the gear down.

You can send a screenshot here but honestly not much else to say!

[slender fox]

How do I get st Elmo’s I seen people using it

[honest moss]

So you want to do AR targeted loot, so find assault rifles on the map or do countdown/summit with it set to them

[slender fox]

Oh okay cool

I appreciate it

[honest moss]

Matchmake for challenging countdown and you will be fine, just follow everyone else!

Ofcourse! Goodluck agent!

[slender fox]

👍🏼👍🏼

[zenith willow]

can u pls give me a good build for legendary missions ?

[honest moss]

Strikers or even hotshot HH determined if you can deal with heavies/have a team to kill them

Legendary you can run the chest of strikers but it is your call.

[subtle bluff]

It would be the same build you would have in a solo heroic but imo without reviver hive.

[cinder geode]

If I was to extract a talent off my M4? Could I put it on my M16, or would the fact ones a rifle and one is a AR prevent that? Going for a particular 'elemental build'

[onyx sage]

you can't, AR talents and rifle talents are different

you have to extract them separately

[zenith willow]

and what type of build is that?

[narrow bough]

Not gonna lie, this rifle is smooth with glass cannon. Easy to handle and goes through enemies on ease.

[magic pilot]

It is top for burst and sustain dps

[narrow bough]

hell yeah i love it. UIC is other rifle i run with. the handling, sound and look is phenomenal

[cinder geode]

My thanks

[smoky moss]

m16 is one of my favorite. huuuge damage and handles smooth.

[narrow bough]

hell yeah and the sound is amazing

[edgy junco]

anyone got a current meta heal build!

[urban latch]

Check the pinned Google doc, there's a FI guide in there. But basically 4p FI, btsu gloves, and opportunistic backpack

[edgy junco]

OK! thank you1

[subtle bluff]

back that down

[peak meadow]

I prefer the streamlined version, CHOW

[onyx sage]

i just noticed, mini tanks have no armor plates

the crossbow doesn't really do anything, if you mean the treads then blowing them up actually makes them more dangerous

[subtle bluff]

WURD...

[peak meadow]

Crossbowing the treads doesn't destroy them in one shot either

It's like shooting the backpack, it does damage and nothing else

[subtle bluff]

Did miss anything else?

[peak meadow]

If I were running this build, I would just put sledge on my pistol

And run a different gun for my secondary

But that's probably not meta

[vestal ibex]

Really you should put a blip about tech too.

[subtle bluff]

what would you run that's work with opp?

[subtle bluff]

There whole different one with tech and then the in-depth guide explain all of it

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/234461-tom-clancys-the-division-2/faqs/81858

[vestal ibex]

Ah, yeah it's just pretty much the same thing for these builds just spec difference.

[peak meadow]

I wouldn't, probably, I would just run an SMG-9 personally

Guys, I haven't healed a day in my life, don't listen to my bullshit

[vestal ibex]

lol this stuff is healer build stuff tho. You support by giving buffs.

[honest moss]

Since the sledge nerf i just run an AR as a secondary for dps if needed since opp lasts a few seconds. Kard custom lets me run an extra blue on surv since tier 6 is only 20% extra healing and is mainly only needed for overcharge. But i don't do raids ect so healing is easier in regular content.

[subtle bluff]

wait what....

You run Lefty for sledgehammer 20%...

[magic pilot]

You know you have to hold Kard to get the extra skill tier

[subtle bluff]

There soo many things to be said there.. 😐

[magic pilot]

Yea sledge is 100% worth running still

[subtle bluff]

I'd assume that he things sledge work like it writen in-game even tho it works like it always has done and the only nerf is 40 to 20% now..

[subtle bluff]

Let me rebreak this down in "non-raid" healing
Sledge is only nerf is from 40 to 20% it still works for the team.

We still use shotgun/Scorpio as the main weapon for 2 reasons

• Opp buff for 15% team amp dmg
• Survivalist Tactical Link 10% team amp dmg
• If you get to 7 shots on Scorpio, another 20% team amp dmg
  This amount of boost dmg to the team is a crazy amount you won't ever be able to output.

In some sense, I guess you're not wrong about not needing 6 skill tier, but you'll use more charges to keep everyone topped up rather than slightly over-healing.

[thin grail]

whats the best spot on roosevelt island to do the "roosevelt roundup" objective for the gunner specialization?

[urban latch]

Your also doing so little damage, there's just no point in using an AR to shoot. All it does is distract you from healing.

Losing the skill tier for an armor core is again, super pointless. FI is super tanky with 0 armor tiers since you have your heals. Shoot a teammate with a chem heal, and the shared healing can keep you up through just about anything

[honest moss]

Sledge doesn't apply to teammates anymore i thought since last season.

[onyx sage]

nope it's been reverted. they just haven't reverted the tooltip

[honest moss]

The blue is because i also run it in dz.

[urban latch]

Yes it does

[honest moss]

Well that is great to know!!!

Thanks yall!!

[onyx sage]

it's only been changed in pts, so now basically all that's changed is % nerf

[honest moss]

Thank you for the breakdown, i will use this information to update my stuff

[subtle bluff]

I posted the picture of the guide. If you have more questions, the url/in-depth should cover the rest.

[hollow relic]

Hey. Someone that knows about build to send private a photo to explain me something please?

[patent fossil]

Is that the mounted gun kills one? You can get a few in the middle in the area where you first encounter the engineer lady you rescue, then a bunch more right at the end if you hold back from destroying both fuel tanks and just let more waves of adds spawn.

[magic pilot]

The one blue core is not going to save you as a healer

[honest moss]

No but it has helped, anyway i reverted my build back to what the build sheet has so thanks anyway. Also planning on making a pvp orientated one once i have loadout space.

[honest moss]

Thank wise mrchow. Been a few times now you have helped me out so thank you and everyone else in here!

[subtle bluff]

PvP Healing is so different is all I know.

[subtle bluff]

Sorry what? If nothing go to the Pinned Message it has a bunch of info in there.

[magic pilot]

I can send you my pvp healer later

[granite cedar]

Are the turmoil kneepads farmable? Or am I just out of luck

[onyx sage]

nope

[heady stump]

I'm new to the division 2 I have assembled a build to say and want to know what you think about it and any advice is welcomed

• Ninjabike backpack
• Chill out mask
• Gila guard kneepads ( 5% total armor/ 60% health/2.0% armor regen)
• Legatus S.p.a holster & chestplate (30% swap speed/70% optimal range/ 15 Weapon damage)
• Providence defense gloves (13% headshot damage/ 8% crit hit chance)

I'm at 60% crit/1.3 armor/ 83% all weapon damage/ 98.5% headshot damage

[glossy scarab]

what weapon ya using?

the regen you're getting isnt enough to be worth it to use those gila pieces unless you spec into armor regen on every piece of the build.. i would keep my eye out for ceska, grupo, walker and harris, fenris

[heady stump]

pestilence or st elmo's engine / and I like to use artist's tool or the Virginian as a secondary hence the headshot damage

[glossy scarab]

yeah those are solid

[heady stump]

the chill out mask just because it give another mod slot not for the armor regen

I swapped to turmoil since I'm using pestilence

[magic pilot]

I'd check out the pinned spreadsheet

[honest moss]

Sorry for the late reply but that would be great ❤️

[tranquil wraith]

Is there any build that buffs the whole teams attack?

[solar sable]

OD gives hollow point ammo (applies bleed)

[tranquil wraith]

hmmm, I ask because I just got out of a countdown where I went from hitting 1m to 3-4m a hit, not sure if it was due to someone buffing the team

[solar sable]

a lot of coyote's and CD buffs

[subtle bluff]

FI, OD, Demo, Coyote's there's a few more that does a team buff.

[hexed steppe]

also, survivalist if running status, opportunistic and scorpio both amp any damage the npcs take

[hexed steppe]

this is probably what was causing damage spike

[hollow relic]

Good morning everyone.

I saw someone PvP build yesterday on dz. Can you tell me if i send it if its good? I'm confused why use those gloves with those weapons

[subtle bluff]

to note there is #td2-pvp-discussions

[hollow relic]

@subtle bluff can i send it there?

[nocturne socket]

You can send it here, that's what this channel is for. 😄 Mention that it's a PvP build, so people keep that in mind when commenting on it.

[subtle bluff]

I was trying to point in a better direction.

[hazy steeple]

Isa' is right that if you post it here, you should mention that it's a PvP build, as this channel is mostly PvE focused.
@hollow relic Use #td2-pvp-discussions if you can though for sure, there's image permissions in there and you'll get a more focused response.

[severe hedge]

Idk I was trying out a build

Strikers + Backfire.

[dreamy grotto]

yes, but bleed

[hexed steppe]

whats the question?

[severe hedge]

It was just fun to experiment with

[dreamy grotto]

actual build doable be like... technitian, 3pcs striker, ninjabike, ceska and 1 pcs cavalier - with booster hive

something like this

[bright raptor]

so to solve the bleed problem you just made a significantly worse overall build

[dreamy grotto]

worse? - no
Different - yes

[hexed steppe]

you dont really need a hazpro build for backfire anymore. its quicker to get stacked, so you wont be bled as much. once stacked you wont bleed as long as stack level is the same between reloads

imho backfire still a meme weapon, better options out there

worse because ninja. trading a total weapon damage talent for additive crit damage isnt really great. its purpose built, sure, but its not consistently strong. if not 100% uptime on backfire stacks, then you end up doing way worse than a normal setup

[urban latch]

It's legitimately one of the strongest guns out there in the right situation

But yeah, building haz pro for it is a mistake

[hexed steppe]

sure, if you keep it stacked. anytime you are out of combat its resetting, and youre stuck rebuilding the damage

[magic pilot]

I run it in countdown with no haz

[carmine echo]

Looking for a dark zone dps build any one got one?

[hazy steeple]

@carmine echo There's a set of PvP builds in the 📌 pinned-message > spreadsheet 2 > builds > PvP starter guide in this channel.
Make sure you also get some advice over in #td2-pvp-discussions, they're more dedicated to the DZ/Conflict directly.
GL Agent

[grim rover]

Sup boys its me again. Is there a relatively easy upgrade on my weapons? Im just now workiNG my way through the NY expansion

Not having much trouble with dudes other than this theo parnell mission that the dude that puts holographs of himself everywhere and i feel like its a dps check im failing. Went through the whole mission twice only to take forever on the boss and the servers restarted both times. So im trying to make sure im gucci before starting this again lol

Also, I got 3 pieces of strikers as well, but am shit so been relying on the umbra armor repair but am willing to switch (been holding off to find a 4th piece)

[azure plank]

Hi, It's not right build but the thing is, I'm getting 2 - 3M most of the time with my secondary weapon but not with the nemesis. Why?

I did this build but I don't have the chest and backpack so I used something else

[patent fossil]

You have to charge nemesis shots by holding down the trigger

[azure plank]

wow I had no idea

[patent fossil]

Also literally any high end chest and backpack with headhunter and vigilance would be better than your current choices

[azure plank]

This is what the build said from the google sheet but I have no brand items

[patent fossil]

I think that's likely an old build. Hotshot is better than aces these days, unless you want to run a rifle.

[azure plank]

In google sheet it's saying TU 12

is this 10M?

[patent fossil]

We're currently on about TU26

[patent fossil]

Yes

[azure plank]

Wow had no idea, let's see if I find any updated on here by searching name

Thank you so much for the help finally a sniper build.

and 10M damage is insane the whole time I had 200K - 300K damage weapon. But not that great in chellenging mode while active the directives

One last thing how to zoom out and in in nemesis?

[urban latch]

The headhunter chest talent is what makes MMRs and other high base damage weapons so strong. Right now you've just got a bunch of gearset pieces on not really doing anything

[grim rover]

Dumb question what is an MMR i keep seeing it get thrown around

[urban latch]

10m damage with headhunter is honestly not that high, that's like low mid-stack damage

[peak meadow]

Marksman Rifle

[grim rover]

Duh ok ty

[patent fossil]

While aiming into the scope, tap the 'tab' button to change zoom levels. Not all scopes can change zoom though.

[grim rover]

Do people really use mmr? I aint that patient i go in blastin

I stashed a few that i got but dont ever see myself using them

[urban latch]

Headhunter builds in general are some of the top builds in the game, so they are absolutely used

Especially with determined being a thing making it OP

[onyx sage]

no he said the thing...

[grim rover]

Damn no shit. Good to know... Pvp? Or both pvp/pve

I was wondering because im newish and have been focusing on my library and MMR is the only thing i got all the talents lol

[urban latch]

You'll run into less MMR builds on console pvp, but they can basically 1 tap anyone with a headshot, so especially on PC they are deadly. Different builds for pvp vs pve.

[grim rover]

I figured im too old and slow for pvp but know i gotta go in the dz for stuff so figured id ask lol

Appreciate the info bossman

[azure plank]

I was using Sharpshooter specialization but not upgrading marksman rifle upgrade 🤣

[grim rover]

Imma go fail to kill theo parnell for the 3rd time

[fresh fox]

headhunter isn’t used in pvp no

it gets a huge nerf

focus/glass cannon the talents used in pvp

[grim rover]

I aint worried about pvp until im forced to go into the dz to farm something. Ya boy will be out here dying on story difficulty in the meantime

[dreamy grotto]

thats why on general gameplay i play tots flamethrower build xD

[fair dragon]

Thankfully you'll never be forced to go into the DZ

Unless you for some reason refuse to do the Raids or Descent

[grim rover]

Nah im all about those... Eventually lol

[azure plank]

Which specialized weapon will be good for this build? Gunner or technician?

[grim rover]

I jist thought some pieces could only be got there or named caches

[urban latch]

Think of OD as a dps support build, not a status build. Spec doesn't matter that much, really down to preference, but something like gunner or firewall are probably your best options.

Main thing to change though is your weapons, you'll really want high end weapons with sadist, those will benefit the most from OD. Focus on getting crit minor attributes, not status or whatever the blue rolls are, and that 1p nego holster is doing nothing for you, ideally that would be a ceska piece.

[dreamy valve]

Tsunami with Oxidizer is fixed right?

[onyx sage]

ye

[reef summit]

would that make a good OD build or what is BiS for it?

[supple spindle]

any suggestions for improvement?

[patent fossil]

Drop blue core, swap fenris unbreakable for ceska obliterate

Maybe run gunner for the aok, ammo regen etc

[supple spindle]

ok ty

[grim rover]

Whats OD

[barren walrus]

"Ongoing Directive" - Shooting a status-inflicted enemy will apply a debuff for a few seconds.

When the enemy dies with the debuff, you gain a magazine's worth of Hollow-Point Bullets. Your teammates get half a magazine of the same bullets.

[grim rover]

Oh damn that sounds fun. Imma have to look into getting pieces of that to try

I got a list of a few builds om stashing gear for

Ive always been solo but would love to do a team build. Ive always played support or tank in most mmos

I swapped from demolitionist to gunner yesterday and ive been wanting to grab all the team Perks but im by my lonesome lol

[barren walrus]

Yeah.

I forgot to mention, both you and your teammates experience a 20% damage amplifier while having Hollow-Points.

A personal gripe I have with it is the lackluster survivability, but that only comes into effect when you're solo.

A piece that may actually work well with this is "Ridgeway's Pride", considering the constant bleed, amplification, and even some minor healing.

At the cost of the chestpiece of OD granting a 35% boost to damage instead of 20% (to only yourself), because the Exotic is in the chestpiece slot.

More of a "pick your poison" deal.

[karmic osprey]

what im running now just to keep the game fun

[grim rover]

That sounds solid

[barren walrus]

Of course, use weapons with "Sadist" to amplify the damage further.

[grim rover]

I figured sadist wasnt reallt useful too. Shows how dumb I can be

Got sadist on most weapons but really only beem caring about measured, strained, fast hands and maybe optimist. Got a LOT to learn

[dusk warren]

Wasnt here for bewildered turmoil knee pads, any alternatives or compromises?

[subtle bluff]

it's a better solo build than a team build.

[subtle bluff]

don't use it?

[dusk warren]

I dont have them, what would be the alternative for them?

[subtle bluff]

no

there are none. they're not that great anyways.

[dusk warren]

Copy

[subtle bluff]

they are but not at the same time

[dusk warren]

Its a yes or no lol

[onyx sage]

depends on the situation

[dusk warren]

Word

Well it wont matter to me then, fomo i guess

[magic pilot]

They are currently bugged rn, so some builds benefit from them more than others

[dusk warren]

What would you consider for a base dps
Focused build? Ars/smg or a tank lmg/shotgun based build?

Came back from a 5 year hiatus, everything is new to me

[hexed steppe]

Ar rifle nego dps 😍

You may fall in love tho

[grim rover]

Ar. Lmg. For lyfe

[dusk warren]

Thanks

[dusk warren]

Whats this?

I personally like lmgs/ sg but im playign with a buddy that ONLY runs ARs so i wanted to help him set up a build

[dreamy grotto]

bluescreen negotiator)

[dusk warren]

BS is that status lmg? Whats a good set to combine it with?

Looked interesting to me

[magic pilot]

nego is good

or OD

[dusk warren]

Im so lost, whats nego?

[vestal atlas]

short for negotiators dillema, another gearset

[magic pilot]

thanks ikia, i just loaded into a conflict match

[vestal atlas]

reason it pairs well with bluescreen is that ND works by shooting enemies to mark them, and then shooting one enemy to spread the crit damage over to the other targets, and bluecreen will work well as you want to mark multiple enemies too, so they overlap well

[dreamy grotto]

also set bonuses are crit chance and damage, bluescreen lacks of

[dusk warren]

Goated

I heard heartbreaker is good with BS too, valid build?

[dreamy grotto]

idk, its hard to stack much crit chance and damage

i thinking how about smg(probably vector or backfire) + shotgun (thorn or like glue) heartbreaker with Vigil backpack - that 45% amp damage (from backpack only) looks interesting

[bright raptor]

ish, you're very reliant on headshots or using your secondary ACS-12 to both pulse and gain stacks

[dreamy grotto]

like striker + obliterate is 90% amp (backpack) + 25% amp
and vigil + HB is 45% amp + 110% amp(chest)? - on top of additional bonus armor from time to time

[bright raptor]

no, Vigil requires too much micromanagement for a buff that isn't nearly long enough to justify it

[dusk warren]

Lets say im a beginner, should i just stick to the striker build previously provided until i gain more knowledge?

[dreamy grotto]

with centurion scabbard - use weapon swap as reload and also a buff gain?

[dusk warren]

My end goal is a viable pve/pvp endgame build

[bright raptor]

this does not exist due to how differently PvP and PvE play, a build effective in one is usually not very good in the other

short of something like the total silliness that was launch day Heartbreaker

[kind sluice]

Which of these 2 builds is better to use?
https://imgur.com/a/80rgxzp
Headhunter/Vigilance

https://imgur.com/a/0stcEV4
Headhunter/The Gift

[onyx sage]

for sniping the first

[bright raptor]

^

[kind sluice]

Thought so. I tested with pristine Example too but that lowered the damage

[bright raptor]

if that's Handbasket it benefits far more from the Hotshot gearset buffs than the high end setup

[onyx sage]

pristine example is for DPS

headhunter is for one-shotting

[kind sluice]

yeah better make every shot as the npc's can oneshot me too

[dusk warren]

What lmg/sg build would you recommend for pvp?

[bright raptor]

https://lite.evernote.com/note/e276d9da-3885-ebd9-5354-35b77ed1c75c

[brave temple]

lookin to do some 31-40 solo in the DZ....but want to use a rifle with glasscannon + blood sucker, any recommendations on what kind of high end 31 rifle to look for?

[worn mango]

M1A, M1A variant, SCAR, M16, all decent options

[onyx sage]

bro is back

[worn mango]

Ughhhhh

No this is fake version

I've been shadow playing but it's the same old shenanigans

[onyx sage]

and i am the average player

[worn mango]

No no I am the average player

[onyx sage]

don't you take my throne

[thin cobalt]

So this is the build im running, besides red cores what can I do to get more out of it? Besides changing the entire thing

[bright raptor]

regular Ceska knees instead of Turmoil

using weapons with Flatline and the Technician pulse laser

[worn mango]

Yeah, Turmoil is just not worth it. More red cores, getting close to if not 60% crit chance, using an AR with linked laser pointer

Lexington/any good high end AR with an ACS-12 for stack building, both with laser from technician, flatline on both

If I recall Ikia uses two red core, three blue core and momento

[thin cobalt]

Unfortunately I don't have the Lexington.

[worn mango]

Next best is FAMAS, F2000 or FAL, whatever you handle the best

For stack sake though, FAMAS or F2k

[onyx sage]

famas and f2k have no laser pointer tho

[thin cobalt]

I'll see if I can get my hands on a decent famas

[worn mango]

Oh really? I thought one of those did

[onyx sage]

nah

i would know, i'm the average player

[worn mango]

Then FAL or even the Honey Badger if it takes it. Kingbreaker is fine but I just hate the way it shoots

TKB is so low tier now sadly

[bright raptor]

Police M4

[onyx sage]

police m4 and p416 are my recs, siding more with m4

[bright raptor]

TKB was never great, Kingbreaker just happened to benefit a lot from Perfect Flatline if you were point blank and with the original launch day Heartbreaker

[worn mango]

I could see that

I forget if I had to update these numbers at all, don't believe I did. But based on my arbitrary weighting this is how it all shakes out

Lexi is just so god damn good lol

[bright raptor]

I still have to do some number crunching on which Honey Badgers in the stash to optimize and which to scrap for optimization mats

[thin cobalt]

Do yall think the Lexington will come back? Cause I've seen alot of builds use it

[worn mango]

I believe they said it would

[bright raptor]

the developers have said it will, but it will likely remain a limited time grant, so log in the day or day after they announce that a future patch will come with a grant

[thin cobalt]

Well that's good atleast, I missed the log on to get it back when so I'll have a look to out for it

[worn mango]

I'd imagine they'll do something with the release of the DLC or around that

Gets people hype again

[onyx sage]

just know that right now you're not missing out on anything big because lexington isn't beating the other options by much

[worn mango]

It's all marginal gains for sure

[onyx sage]

wherever you see a lexington used, a police m4 does the exact same thing

[bright raptor]

especially if the lexington user isn't actually hitting their shots

[worn mango]

Well we all shoot 100% of course

[subtle bluff]

It's not updated.

[worn mango]

Looks like base reload is too low and damage is off by 9

I'd have to go through from the last patch notes

[subtle bluff]

#patch-notes

[worn mango]

Yeah I got em up from the trello board

[subtle bluff]

https://trello.com/c/chpVimJr
I normally go here for looking up the past patch notes

[worn mango]

Hmm, the last picture of weapon changes has Lexi at 2.24

[magic pilot]

thet said it would

[magic pilot]

notes are wrong

our sheet is up to date tho

[worn mango]

Ah diggity

Sheet on the main doc?

[subtle bluff]

It needs more updating.. 😐

Small things tho

[magic pilot]

send me them ill make a note for it

[worn mango]

Are the reload speeds there the base speed or the speed + the big mag?

[cerulean smelt]

anyone enjoying handbasket in their headshot builds?

[magic pilot]

@versed summit

[worn mango]

Yeah I've used it on mine instead of wasting materials on getting the expertise up

[versed summit]

Base and no watch

[worn mango]

Cool, appreciate it

Haha, after adding all the AR's with weighting, Invisible Hand is #1 lol

But obviously it's buns because no talent essentially

[cerulean smelt]

isn't the handling on it pretty terrible too?

[worn mango]

I believe so, but that's also so hard to justify numerically

Some people it might work for them depending on input device. I'm a controller pleb, give me vertical recoil only

In the end it's still the Lexington, followed by FAMAS

[magic pilot]

i tried out invisible hand

[cerulean smelt]

i don't remember it being a verticle thing
for me it bounces all over up, left and right quite a bit

[magic pilot]

it just feels like shit

[worn mango]

Yeah, horizontal recoil is hard to control just in general. That's been a FPS thing forever

Bouncing patterns are generally nearly impossible for controller inputs

[subtle bluff]

Wish it was better

[worn mango]

What's wild to me is how lowly ranked Elmo is but we know it just shoots so damn straight

[cerulean smelt]

for the gun would be great if you're always in their face XD

[subtle bluff]

It's still the most reliably AR.

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say most reliably obtainable AR honestly

[subtle bluff]

more or less... Some with bad RNG like me it was one of my last exo guns I got. I got ouro and BH before it....

[worn mango]

The problem with this as well is that it can't farily rank exotics due to them having 0 attachments but we also know that's not true

Just 0 players choice mods

[languid zenith]

Hi someone told me there's a good run and gun pistol build on here can someone help me find it

[cerulean smelt]

see that thumbtack icon in the upper right hand corner? click on that and the first link for spreadsheet. in there look for the Build hub tab

[languid zenith]

Thanks sorry

[cerulean smelt]

no worries, for a long time i didn't know pins existed on discord

it's called Regulus Headhunter

[bright raptor]

^despite the name it works great with a Determined 586 or 686 revolver too, and to a lesser extent the D50

wish it did with the Diceros family but stuff is already silly enough when it all comes together

[cerulean smelt]

think i got an odd build off youtube or something i just pieced together and i took it for a test run and it worked pretty well

[languid zenith]

I feel stupid I've been looking through the spreadsheet don't see it, thanks for trying to help anyway

[cerulean smelt]

chainkiller, punchdrunk, memento, 2 arcabuz (1 picaros), and 1 providence. swapped out the guns for handbasket, the 1886 rifle and harvest gun XD

[bright raptor]

Hub tab

[wild lily]

There's tabs on the bottom, it's the second one that says Hub on it

[cerulean smelt]

https://lite.evernote.com/note/a7f5c11a-6dfd-226c-836b-18e272395d1c

[bright raptor]

without the Arcabuz pieces it's most of the way to being a all high end headshot build

well if you wanted brandset bonuses for headshot or sniper rifles at least

[cerulean smelt]

at the bottom above your taskbar if you're looking at it on the PC will be the tabs

[glossy scarab]

replace 2 arcabuz with 2 zwia for the 20% rifle dmg and use the 1886

[cerulean smelt]

i got the build mostly for regulus. love the whole head exploding bit that it does

[bright raptor]

yes, just found out that the headshot explosion goes through "floors" while speedrunning Grand Washington - saved me a few shots across the atrium

[glossy scarab]

sick

[cerulean smelt]

seriously?

[bright raptor]

headshot guy on one floor and the guy in the "niche" a floor above got oneshot by the explosion

[cerulean smelt]

atrium, is that the one with npcs across the way we can't reach so we just have to shoot them?

[bright raptor]

yes that one

[cerulean smelt]

good to know 🤔 though i dont' think i'm that good of a shot with regulus, it'd just be a lucky shot for me

although, there's a huge part of me wanting to mix turmoil in that build (> <)

[bold leaf]

Turmoil is insane with an 1886, doesn't seem to do so well with Regulus for some reason

[cerulean smelt]

well, gotta get headshots for regulus, but yeah my whole idea was just dropping the regulus and going with 1886/handbasket/harvest all determined XD

[bold leaf]

Headshots are easy enough with a tall shield and close range; heads be popping

[cerulean smelt]

i know chainkiller is probably more than enough for the most part?

[bold leaf]

Yep

[cerulean smelt]

would be tempting to try 2 zwia as someone mentioned, chainkiller, fox's, contractors and maybe hollowman just for laughs XD

or would dropping contractors for eagle's grasp be a thing?

[urban marten]

Who is running a Virtuoso set?

I have questions please

[cerulean smelt]

i've got one with pestilence, but i don't quite understand the set aside needing to get 2 different kills at different ranges to get a boost in damage

[urban marten]

Are you running the backpack or nah? I'm trying to see if the backpack is not worth it and just get a different one w/a talent for more DPS

[cerulean smelt]

currently, no backpack, but i do use the chest. so chest, holster, gloves, mask with backbone and turmoil

[static shadow]

So the next few pics are my build that I use and sheesh I might not kill super fast but it gets the job done.

[cerulean smelt]

so basically showing off what you go so far? but dont' want input?

[static shadow]

Yea input is great tbh. See if i can tweak it

I have a few to finish maxing then I'll upgrade but the gun is at the wh vendor cause like a dummy I pooped the lexington

[cerulean smelt]

from what i can see, doesn't look to horrible aside the turmoil chopping your damage in half 🤔

[static shadow]

You think even tho it's splitting to other targets

That's the thing I'm wondering because of the set bonus and that if it's actually worth it I mean I see mons drop pretty quick but I could have something better maybe

[cerulean smelt]

from what i've been experiencing with them (i do use them myself) your damage is always 50% even if you're 1 vs 1

[static shadow]

Really it's not supposed to be did they f up lol

[cerulean smelt]

also DOD pointed out that shooting with them the transfer isn't always 50% either, so they're kind of broken in a lot of ways currently

[static shadow]

Yea I have noticed that I'll hit 700k on main and a mob gets like 70k like ummmm wait a moment lol

[cerulean smelt]

mind if i send you a link in DM?

[static shadow]

Go ahead

[glossy scarab]

i've used that build and it works great, you can do the same thing with strikers too. just gotta ACS a couple bad guys up for stacks

with full memento stacks i remember i was hitting around 700k.. it was plenty

[cerulean smelt]

with turmoil?

[glossy scarab]

yea

at full momentum and full stacks

[cerulean smelt]

if you've been following the latest streams. they mentioned they'll give out the lexington again just no when/how yet

[static shadow]

Yea i have but this one ain't bad tbh

I'm actually tempted to use oxepecker lol. Just to keep my shield up indefinitely and never watch it die lol

[cerulean smelt]

in PTS my shield got destroyed 2 times honestly, but i think i managed to keep myself going honestly

[static shadow]

I'm just curious cause crits and turmoil and oxepecker repair on the shield. Downside you just have to aim at the heads the whole time.

[cerulean smelt]

heads, or run something like nightwatcher and pulse skill

[static shadow]

True then you lose the drone hmm

Drop the fixer drone instead of striker lol. Not much healing tho

[cerulean smelt]

striker build i have is chest, gloves, holster and knees with devil's due backpack and grupo mask. ox pecker did pretty well in pts with that set up, only lost my shield was i was taking on too much for what i had on me

[static shadow]

Ahhh not bad.

I might try defender drone. It has over 4 million ho and 40% damage reduction

Trying to find a decent tank and don't take forever to kill stuff build

[pastel basin]

On the pvp starter pinned spreadsheet, which build would the best if you can’t hit headshots like that

[static shadow]

Imma try pulse scanner with reaper oxe and shield on this set up kinda curious now. As long as it's no black tusks and that stupid remove skills debuff I'm good lol

[static shadow]

So i did Lincoln memorial on heroic with 3 objectives cause I like my odds to have 2 skills. Used Heartbreaker damage set and was surprised never have i ever done a heroic solo so

[ebon coyote]

Is this a tanky set up you got going on? I have sort of join mid convo seen your pics of the build but don’t really understand it still learning everything

[cerulean smelt]

semi tanki with 4 armor cores and 2 weapon cores. gain extra damage by pulsing your enemies and gaining stacks like Striker while getting bonus armor

[cerulean smelt]

lincoln memorial but picture shows grand washington hotel? did you run it with oxpecker?

[ebon coyote]

Nice, thanks for explaining, would this be good with a lmg or would it suit any gun?

[cerulean smelt]

depends. you good at shooting heads for the pulsing? you going to pulse periodically?

only problem i have with heartbreaker. you're either beaming heads or you're using some form of pulsing skill or you're technician with Link Laser Pointer attachment on your gun so you point gun and they get pulsed

[ebon coyote]

O yea I have a terrible shot haha maybe not for me then 😂

[white pollen]

It feels like it compliments more of a beefy / cqb style of play which makes headshots just silly easy, given close range.

[cerulean smelt]

only reason someone mentioned ACS-12 for close range is to gain 50-100 stacks in a quick moment then using their main gun to do the rest out of harms way so to speak. wouldn't say heartbreaker is for getting in someone's face though

[white pollen]

Nah I wasn't going off what anybody said - just my take on the gear set. I mean it's blue cored with offensive bonuses, it feels like meant for a bruiser style of build, no?

[static shadow]

@cerulean smelt yea that's what I ment lol. Oxepecker still sucked. Idk why. But minus the tank and using my dps heartbreaker set i cleared it. On heroic seems like the shield is just meh

[versed summit]

It can definitely be used in a bruiser style

[subtle bluff]

Oxpecker sucks. It doesn't do enough DPS.

I've slightly carried a team thru leggo zoo on HB. Slightly because I forced them to kill all tanks and dogs. I've done a lot with HB. My build is playstyle more than the build doing the work.

[shy willow]

Its a fun gun but not competitive

[agile blaze]

Goodday everyone, this might be a long question but please forgive me. as we all know you need field recon data and faction assesment for optimizing items. I have loads of faction assesment because i love just joining random bounty runs, but i severely lack field recon data. As far as i know the best way to farm this is through control points or playing countdown and buying optimization caches. Only other way i know of is using a second character as a mule but i also read that because i'm only lvl 300 that's not really worth it yet.

Do you guys have any tips for me? If control points are really the best way, is there a certain build for me to make it faster/easier? Right now running 4 striker, cezka chest and coyote mask, full red.

[dreamy grotto]

headhunter builds can be really fast, coz you just one tap everything
for example regulus headhunter - if you can land thouse headshots

or for more relaxed style - any weapon with determined - for example i use 1886 rifle and it lands 21 mil shots - enough to one tap stuff

[patent fossil]

Landmarks in DZ can be a very fast way to farm it too, especially if you get in a group since the enemies don't scale to group size

[agile blaze]

How much field recon do you get per landmark?

[patent fossil]

I don't know off the top of my head, I've just seen others recommend it over the last year or so.
I'd also recommend just farming better rolls on gear so you don't have to optimise very much where possible.

You can also craft it if you have the blueprint

[dreamy grotto]

something like this will do the work

[bright raptor]

I think you get 1-4 field recon data depending on the DZ landmark difficulty

[agile blaze]

Alright thanks anyway, i do have almost everything maxed out but the last 0.% cost so much field recon and i hate doing control points. I unfortunatly do not have the blue print yet.

[agile blaze]

Thanks man

[agile blaze]

Where do you find a build guide picture like this?

[dreamy grotto]

build planner, its a bit outdated in terms of stats, but good to use as a template https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/

[agile blaze]

Thanks!

[agile blaze]

Literally the first control point i do after this message gave me the field recon data blueprint lol

[thorn crest]

so I have found that I can not recalibrate items after I have done it once, does this mean I need to farm for items again and again untill I have found some with the right stats?

[bright raptor]

You can only recalibrate the same slot once you have, but you can do it as many times as you want

And yes, this is why you want the other 2-3 rolls to be what you want before recalibrating

[worn mango]

Man I'm absolutely getting gut checked rolled in the DZ and it's frustrating. For whatever reason I just do nothing. Only difference in the AR PVP setup is that I have two red rolls because it's hard rolls but yeesh, no fun in there

I don't even wanna engage in it, just if I have to kill someone I have a fighting chance lol

[dreamy grotto]

So, apparently i noticed that striker stacks started to affect Ravenous explosion... - in range i was able to see like 14mil-15 mil explosions
(i didnt played a game a while, and then sets wasnt buffing rav)

Does anyone here tested it with other sets aswell? - maybe all red heartbreaker or some other interesting combo?
(i allready have high end setup, and it got smaller explosions than stacked striker, also rpm is nice)

[thorn crest]

I see thank you

Is the summit a good place to farm exotics?

[dreamy grotto]

better do countdown - you can choose item type you want there, as well as at summit, but also you get currency by completing it, with which you can buy exotic container - so its like almost 1 container per countdown

also other players can carry you there if you have suboptimal build, so less suffering involved

[gloomy hare]

lately i've heard of many having luck in countdown

[thorn crest]

Thank you for the info

[manic lantern]

Will status effect even do anything for smg-ridgeway build?

[tulip charm]

No

[manic lantern]

Opinions?

[vestal ibex]

Just use OD.... Bleed is a VERY small tick and you really aren't getting much out of it no matter how much you think it's synergistic.

Also not to mention how hard what you've got there is to farm.

[manic lantern]

you know that this build is not about bleed doing damage?

[vestal ibex]

Point still stands cause that's what the chest/weapon talent/electrique bonus are doing for you.

Oh and the backpack talent.

[fresh fox]

yea it’s meh

almost a decent pvp build

[manic lantern]

why almost? 🤔

[fresh fox]

bag sucks and no contractors

contractors would probably do more

probably

[fresh fox]

headhunter is nerfed in dz and you need to account for possibly getting jumped by others

so standard regulus pve build wouldn’t be that great

[manic lantern]

Why bag sucks?
It should trigger whole chest bonus faster, I guess would be really useful in conflict or isn`t?
I mean, other option would be perfect wicked then?

[vestal ibex]

You'd probably get rolled in PVP with that, considering it's a all red build and ridgeways is % based and having little armor is regening very little.

[fresh fox]

1. not a damage talent which is needed on this build
2. bad brand

the chest is only for the bleed proc

buffing the bleed is useless on that build

[manic lantern]

specific on red build or even with switching to blue?

[fresh fox]

even on switching

creeping death sucks on ridgeways

you do very little damage without something like wicked

[manic lantern]

perfect wicked worth it or not?

or best option would be take sokolov backpack with regular wicked and as gloves take contractor?

[fresh fox]

not worth

yea sokolov bag and contractors better

[dreamy grotto]

question was about control points

[fresh fox]

oh i saw someone talking about landmarks under that and assumed

my bad!

[magic pilot]

Yea it's over crit cap

I would run Fox/ contractors and run electrique on mask, holster and bp

If you are up for that farm, otherwise just run the old bleed build. Even though it's not very good anymore

[lyric prism]

so lmg people. MK46 I just got w/ maxed lmg/dta and 10%dttoc, flatline.

useful in some fashion?

talent switchable is nice.

[magic pilot]

It's decent iirc, can use whenever

[static shadow]

What build is best to destroy rogue hunters fast. I always seem to have trouble with them

[spiral tangle]

I'm wondering if this would be a decent lmg build I can work towards

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwNgtATGAMlutE2U1MBcBWTKwEZ58BmNJKUjEKKAqBXC09YAvYOAxh76LdqInC7CMmfmEGce01OhABOZJkUB2SIMzluRdCMa6ZMuQb0nD0IA

[bright raptor]

no

[cerulean smelt]

people will tell you to drop the ninja bag as it kind of nerfs your damage (losing a backpack talent)

[bright raptor]

https://lite.evernote.com/note/6e4e77de-a771-1143-00ee-bae7caf88927

if you really want Lengmo you can, but it will take a long time to get the minor attributes you need

[dreamy grotto]

depends, i find very easy to deal with them usint TOTS flamethrower build, coz.... they constantly on fire

[hexed steppe]

Mark as junk, hold tab

I'll echo Souless, od would be better.

[cerulean smelt]

the one where you kill things and stay alive?

[manic lantern]

and how pvp od looks like?

[magic pilot]

pfe its pinned in the sheet

[vestal ibex]

Well idk if OD gets much use in PVP but no where did you actually state it was a PVP build and seemed to just go with the flow once compton mentions it's almost a decent PVP build.

[subtle bluff]

Where and how to keep making your OD ammo in PvP?

[vestal ibex]

I'd look at the context of the entire conversation tbh. [Starts here](#td2-build-advice message)

[magic pilot]

almost a good pvp build 2 years ago

[vestal ibex]

Are your builds even good now??

[magic pilot]

obviously not

[signal pelican]

What's the hate with ninja BP? I have to build gor 1886 I lose damage with vigilance by a great amount. Over 200k in damage.

[cerulean smelt]

basically you lose a damage talent to just have something count as 1 brand/gear set piece

[magic pilot]

send your build

[signal pelican]

I use eagle grasp belstone mask chain killer fox. Breakpoint holster and ninja all red core

[magic pilot]

headshot and handling?

[signal pelican]

Yes all

[magic pilot]

1886?

[signal pelican]

Yeah it does 1.3mill or something but have 8 expertise

Full groll

[magic pilot]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwJgtMYIzWDMYAMSXLajiBcBWHGYEo51Sxwy0tQJZDpFLNnscBOCGSGJ3zXDpGQ8Wo0lhDcE3MbKrFp0KCOQA2VWKx9tWuSy27tSQ3KA

that look right?

sharpshooter spec?

[signal pelican]

Yeah besides on my 1886 I have headshot damage and I run gunner

Also my shd is max

[magic pilot]

thats crit it doesnt count

and modifiers?

[subtle bluff]

Ya oops wrong clip

Still hits hard enough

with only crit and no proc

[cerulean smelt]

same build but just something with vigilence?

[subtle bluff]

I'm hitting body not HSD.

This is my PvP build

[signal pelican]

I use my build in solo legendary mission

[subtle bluff]

Were we talking about PvE?

[magic pilot]

my build isnt even close to optimized

and i used virginian without crit

[signal pelican]

Alright

[magic pilot]

no expertise

so im not sure how you are hitting harder with no vigi

[signal pelican]

I have both 1886 dttoc and headshot

[cerulean smelt]

if they truly fixed vigilence and shields. you can use striker/crusader (forget which is the non firewall shield) and keep your vigilence as long as they keep hitting your shield

[magic pilot]

my mask and holster

im hitting 4x your dmg with vigi

[subtle bluff]

PvE HSD

[cerulean smelt]

show off, but then again i'm probably not far off myself XD

[magic pilot]

im hitting for 4.6m with HHF

[signal pelican]

I use belstone because that 20% armor on kill and 1% armor regen comes in clutch.

[magic pilot]

just run HF at that point?

youd get more AoK, keep vigi and do more dmg

[subtle bluff]

I kind of doubt you are doing the whole legendary mission with a HSD build.

[subtle bluff]

Let me put that on

[signal pelican]

Only up to the boss then I switch to diamond back and go ham

[cerulean smelt]

with NBB?

[subtle bluff]

ya with that too.
I mean you can take a long time depending on the mission. I end up switching on to striker for some sections

[signal pelican]

NBB gets trashed on but it has some insane raw damage it can do.

[magic pilot]

is the raw dmg in the room with us?

[subtle bluff]

Not really. You think you do dmg but you're missing out on more number then using NBB

[magic pilot]

because me and chow both just did 4 times more dmg than your current build

and mine was random shit i had in the stash

i could probably slap 3 blue cores on and still do more dmg

[subtle bluff]

HHF

[cerulean smelt]

i can imagine mortar and chow can utilize the same build with memento and still do a whole lot more damage

[subtle bluff]

Did you say put on blue cores?

[magic pilot]

chow is closing in on 5x more dmg lol

[signal pelican]

Alright good for him but a 1 shot is a 1 shot.

[subtle bluff]

Wait wah... LOL

[magic pilot]

yea you arent one shotting anything with 1.3m dmg though thats the issue

[cerulean smelt]

is raucey here? send Skycraper your soulless challenge video XD

[magic pilot]

im doing 4.6m dmg and it takes me 3 shots to kill an elite on heroic

so if you are doing a 4th of that....

[signal pelican]

Bro I'm doing 22 million with max head hunter and max momentum

[subtle bluff]

HHF 3 blue cores and missing a HSD Gear mod and not full HSD maxed.

ALSO no modifiers

[magic pilot]

yea thats not what im talking about

[subtle bluff]

You want modifiers on now?

[cerulean smelt]

sadly this build does even more damage than your build Skyscraper

[magic pilot]

what about first shot? how are you supposed to be building stacks with no dmg?

[signal pelican]

I headshot the red health guys first a build on or just use nemesis

[magic pilot]

bro 3x dmg while running 3 blue cores, you see why people trash on ninja?

[subtle bluff]

oh i cut the clip earlier

No matter what say NBB will always do less dmg then without it.

[magic pilot]

im doing 31m with no modifiers btw

at max stacks

[signal pelican]

Alright then but I have fun with my build and you have fun with your build as simple as that.

[subtle bluff]

No plz have fun with your build. We're saying don't use it. We're trying to have you understand that NBB isn't has good as you think it is.

[onyx sage]

they answered your question on why people hate on ninja

[magic pilot]

you brought all this up so we showed you lol

why say anything if you are going to get butthurt

[subtle bluff]

Here's my best example of NBB kind winning but then losing again.

You can get more HSD and MMR Dmg with NBB but then Talent.
4xHotshot 2x Habsburg = HSD 133 MMR 50
NBB 3x Hotshot 2x Breaking 1x Habsburg = HSD 153 MMR 75 but no 25% TWD = less damage.

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i had to backtrack was like. ok why we having this discussion (argument)? and was like right they wanted to know why people hated NBB

[magic pilot]

TLDR people hate ninja because its objectively worse 99% of the time vs running an actual backpack talent

[subtle bluff]

I don't hate it. I hate it because people people don't understand why it is a trap.

It's a build trap. It is OK to use if you understand why you're gonna use it. Mostly for PvP

[magic pilot]

"i dont hate it. i hate it" ~ Mr.Chow 2025

[cerulean smelt]

just like with turmoil? i enjoy it for what it does, bugged and all, probably still use it after they fix it

[magic pilot]

turmoil is hated the opposite way

because its stupidly strong and its not supposed to be

[onyx sage]

thanks, i hate it

[subtle bluff]

Do YOU know how many people I've seen come into leggo mission with PGC and Turmoil on?

LIKE...

[cerulean smelt]

that's the bugged part apparently. once they fix it, will be trash, but hopefully that single target bit gets fixed too as it doesn't seem to do our normal damage

[subtle bluff]

All the qq is I'm dying too much.

[manic lantern]

btw, was kinda funny when I found out that turmoil spreads strega to everything after single kill

[signal pelican]

I'm gonna enjoy some oblivion now. Wait really lol

[cerulean smelt]

seriously? i'll have to check that out

[manic lantern]

yup, tried it with a friend on union leggie, died only on garage boss because was pushing like in heroic. 😅

[signal pelican]

You know what's a funny build melee.

[manic lantern]

never tried melee build outside that mission for modifiers

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, then go bashing things and dying because you can't get close to do more bashing

[signal pelican]

That's what exodus gloves are for

[cerulean smelt]

so dropping the shocker puncher exotic holster for gloves?

[signal pelican]

Well claw holster is a thing you know

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, but elmo + shocker puncher shocks them so you can keep bashing

[signal pelican]

True

Have a good day now im gonna go play oblivion remastered

[patent fossil]

@last stirrup no self promo in this server, sorry

[feral anvil]

i prefer my 5 piece 6.11 build with nbb

[brittle lance]

I threw stuff together but I need pros to help me make a good dps, healer, and tank builds
I hope the pros can help me out

[indigo fjord]

Thoughts on this? I like the extra survivability from the gloves and it does decent dmg plus le bullet hose is fun

[hexed steppe]

Keep ceska and memento, replace everything else with crit rolled heartbreaker

Crit rolls and red main cores

[brittle lance]

Wdym crit rolled ik I'm slow

[feral anvil]

for the secondary attributes, crit damage and crit chance

[hexed steppe]

Should do work. Crit rolls are lower than expected but that's partially due to blue screen .
Should be able to get in the range of 50/150 with something that can take weapon mods up to 15%chc

[fair ether]

Hit 60 crit chance then start doing crit damage on everything else

[indigo fjord]

Yeah I need better mods and actually max my rolls and watch im getting there

[hexed steppe]

It's a good start for sure

What do those gloves roll for attributes? New ones right?

[indigo fjord]

^ I havent re rolled them at all since i got em

[brittle lance]

Would yall recommend I do countdowns with the targeted loot heartbreaker?

[hexed steppe]

Yeah, thatll fill you up quick

[hexed steppe]

Umbra can go in the same configuration if you're gonna test a few builds

[indigo fjord]

Does heartbreaker still stack weird

[hexed steppe]

You might grab grupo gloves as a backup. I havent used those yet so not knocking the exo, but options are nice if they arent s huge benefit

[indigo fjord]

I have a groupo pack for max dmg

[cerulean smelt]

or strikers gloves and put on the green smoke mask and be high 24/7

[hexed steppe]

Hb still needs to be stacked on pulsed npcs. Seems good to me. It ties in pretty well with the global modifiers. The 2 crit modifiers and microwave coils on hb is really good

[indigo fjord]

I am usually dont need my agent baked aswell 🤣

[cerulean smelt]

become one of us (> <)

[dreamy grotto]

does someone know, what i need to fix that enormous screen shake when using liberty? i tried to wear some handling, and dont see it working

[subtle bluff]

All but tank builds are in the Pinned Messages.

[magic pilot]

looks good

roll bluescreen to chc

[hexed steppe]

this is how I setup hb

[feral anvil]

suboptimal

no nbb

[subtle bluff]

Wait DW? ACS12 Brazen with either those imo.

[magic pilot]

tbh id just run killer over flatline

i doubt its even close in dps

[feral anvil]

what is preferred in an lmg heartbreaker build tho, flatline or strained

[violet juniper]

Depends on what you're lacking on

I'd say if you're under the CHD breakpoint, I'd use strained

[brittle lance]

If only getting exotics was as easy as getting gear sets

[feral anvil]

i could probably get rid of the backpack for this build tbh but i like the bonus armor

[magic pilot]

strained is kinda dead in pve

[near mason]

I got a 2nd character and looking to build a decent dps build that will help me through anything.. But what is a good talent on a Six12 shotgun to have

[magic pilot]

i would run killer now if you are solo or play aggressive

[violet juniper]

this community confuses me

[magic pilot]

killer is so much stronger

[violet juniper]

you have one server saying strained is meta

one server saying it sucks

[magic pilot]

it doesnt suck

[near mason]

Btw killer is definitely better than strained especially Perfect killer

[magic pilot]

its just very outclassed by killer

[cerulean smelt]

never tried priority objectives huh?

[magic pilot]

bro doesnt know about the deluxe pack??

[feral anvil]

im guessing its cuz you dont get much use out of strained when everything dies so quick especially in solo?

[magic pilot]

its not that, its just that the crit value is way higher with killer

[near mason]

?

[feral anvil]

okay makes sense

[magic pilot]

six12 not that good anymore

get a sasg

tsunami or black market with brazen

[brittle lance]

Touchè

[cerulean smelt]

hear those things gives out exotics like candy

[brittle lance]

They do too be fair but I always get dupes that are worse

[hexed steppe]

Components are components

[feral anvil]

is this useful for literally anything

[hexed steppe]

Almost

[bold leaf]

Some skill builds do well with a yellow Sacrifice, but not with Repair Skills

[feral anvil]

yea i was gonna guess probably skill haste

[hexed steppe]

Its technically ok you lose some haste which isnt the worse for a unicorn piece

[cerulean smelt]

maybe for smartcover?

[bold leaf]

Just use technician for the free skill tier with that

[brittle lance]

What are some good stats for the ceska mask

[feral anvil]

you want crit damage and crit chance

[hexed steppe]

You would do well to save ceska and grupo crit rolled pieces of every type. Makes future builds that much easier having flexibility

[cerulean smelt]

i'm just speculating. not knowing how attributes we get will interat with smart cover

[brittle lance]

Currently this is my build

[hexed steppe]

The clear winner will be memento+smartcover

Future prediction

[cerulean smelt]

i'd be super curious how 3 empress, 2 shiny + memento + smart cover would interact

[hexed steppe]

Empress probably wont be worth, or shiney. You'll want dps with smart cover I think

I need to go back and actually watch the live tho. I'm speculating on something I know nothing about 😂

[feral anvil]

you are going to want to get red attributes on your heartbreaker pieces like crit chance and/or crit damage, and then you can go to the tinkering station and change the blue armor cores to red damage cores. im guessing you will need lots of crit chance rolls on them though

[scenic bobcat]

I've only been using a Striker build since coming back. Finally got a Coyote to drop. But now I'm conflicted if I should swap my Turmoil for a chest piece with Obliterate.

[indigo fjord]

Not DtA?

[feral anvil]

i think lots of lmgs like the bluescreen benefit more from having CHC than DtA

[indigo fjord]

Ill give it a go I have the exo components for it

[brittle lance]

Currently farming for those in countdown wdym crit chance rolls? Like just spin for them

[magic pilot]

chc unless you are going full support or for tick dmg basically

[onyx sage]

bluescreen makes you lack a LOT of crit

[hexed steppe]

If you arent keeping up with the increased stacks the striker chest allows, then you should be on highend chest anyways

[onyx sage]

so you want chc

[magic pilot]

0 crit mods right?

[feral anvil]

nah i just meant like when the piece drops

[onyx sage]

i think so yeah

[scenic bobcat]

I use an ACS to build stacks. But I usually forget to or have 100 by the time I get to a named enemy.

[brittle lance]

Do you have to get lucky from drops just to get maxed crit roll

[indigo fjord]

My mods on my mask and pack are Chc and a Chd on chest

[feral anvil]

you dont need a maxed crit roll, you can optimize it at the crafting bench

[hexed steppe]

• Optimize up to the highest roll in library

[feral anvil]

if you do get a maxed crit roll on a piece you dont want however and you dont need it, take it to the library and save that roll in there so you can use it on future pieces of gear

you have to do that for each gear piece type however

[scenic bobcat]

Mentioning optimization. I have a 14.5 firearm damage and it doesn't allow me to optimize it.

[brittle lance]

Ohhh

[hexed steppe]

Library rolls are item type specific

[scenic bobcat]

That answered my question lol

[cerulean smelt]

oh?

[hexed steppe]

Ideally you'll focus on getting chance right , then dumping rest of attributes to damage. 50-60% chance is solid for most dps. You'll focus closer to 50 when using coyote for mid buff. However, something like negotiators dilemma you make sure to hit the 60% chance because the talent is critical hit based.

[cerulean smelt]

not even with capacitor?

i keep getting told capcitor overcharges skills

[brittle lance]

If I get a better attribute but I have something in it already can I trade it for a better one?

[cerulean smelt]

@subtle bluff was curious if 3 empress, 2 shiney monkey and memento would be pretty strong in general, then was like what if adding capacitor to that mix?

[hexed steppe]

It doesnt. Cap gives 60% skill damage when stacked tho

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, the way it's been explained to me that stack gives skills the equivalent of overcharged skills

[hexed steppe]

Cap is the goto for skill damage type builds like mortar/afk/fire eclipse

Oc covers more than damage

Cap is a strong choice , it's just not an oc stick if that makes sense

[subtle bluff]

For Cap this was my favorite way of running it. Back when I still new I'd out damage some strikers due to be able to not pull agro and shooting most of the time.

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, makes sense to me, guess people aren't as informed how it works

[hexed steppe]

Cap is like having 6 skill damage rolls. It's really good on fire eclipse where the fire pulls damage from status and skill damage

[cerulean smelt]

no matter how many times i've tried it, i feel it's underwhelming in damage and even with skill damage

[subtle bluff]

But also atm you could just go all Red's a Overdrive for all the skill teir

[hexed steppe]

Throw a tier 6 stinger hive at a heavy's feet, trigger overdrive, then hammer them with cap ... you'll be all 😍 like me in no time 💯

[subtle bluff]

I have a new build and some different ways of running EP or HW now.

[hexed steppe]

Uh oh

[subtle bluff]

Was messing with stuff trying to carry has a support

on zoo. You ready for this?

[cerulean smelt]

run localdeck run!

[hexed steppe]

Sure, I been using ep on zoo for a bit now tho. Heroic anyways

[cerulean smelt]

how effective are those highends synergy?

[hexed steppe]

Go home, you're drunk /s

[hexed steppe]

Heal chem for feedback loop

[cerulean smelt]

i read on this server or the other everyday carrier and whatever that shiney monkey is called (grease?) and thought oh my! 🤔

although, i do like the concept of it
armorkit, get OC hit people with OC chem launcher XD

[subtle bluff]

it's a oxi to to push ads out of cover....

[hexed steppe]

Yeah. Chems are a pretty solid trigger

[subtle bluff]

It does everything.

[cerulean smelt]

so throw oc seeker out, then hit covers with oxi? so they dont' dodge seeker?

[subtle bluff]

Team, Heal, Dmg, CC win.

[hexed steppe]

How often can bag oc, and does a quick heal trigger or does it need to be full medkit animation

Plus you have to be damaged to medkit/oc right?

[subtle bluff]

Yeah it sucks.. NOTHING wanted to shoot me

I had to get to someone that was getting nada or droned

[cerulean smelt]

maybe your agent is too hot for them wanting to shoot?

[subtle bluff]

That the heal is sooo good for the team! A HOT heal is so strong for people to move and do stuff.

Nah I am CC'ing and doing soo much shit to them

[hexed steppe]

Consider acosta's?
Ties in with lefty/fire nades. 60s cooldown iirc

[subtle bluff]

I did something like this with EP too

[subtle bluff]

I tried this a long time ago.

Didn't really like

The point is that Armor the repairs the team

[hexed steppe]

If you can trigger it. You still have the chest tho

Oc not being dependent on damage taken sounds like a win

[cerulean smelt]

the named backpack perfect energize is every 30 seconds

[hexed steppe]

Cant oc on full health. Survivalist medkit is overtime. The cooldown isnt important if it cant be used in that timeframe

Nade, cluster seeker, oxi, repeat sounds pretty good to me.

[cerulean smelt]

🤔 wonder what that build will be like with smartcover? always resetting when you move XD

we can't get duration on gears can we? aside the mods?

[fresh fox]

just brands and mods

[hexed steppe]

Maybe certain expertise upgrades

Idk which tho

[cerulean smelt]

won't know until we get it XD

[fresh fox]

probably not

unless a content creator that played speaks

[cerulean smelt]

i can see that kind of build working with smart cover honestly, especially the whole resetting it aspect

[hexed steppe]

Smartcover + artificer+ memento gonna be @cerulean smelt goto setup on all builds. Calling it now 😎

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i can see that too

[fresh fox]

if it even works

[cerulean smelt]

i see smartcover bringing out all kinds of support builds

soulless on other server mentioned yellow striker with it, not sure what weapon

[fresh fox]

capacitor

should have almost the same dps as a full red

[cerulean smelt]

depending, i coudl see the PDR named weapon and Harmony if the skill damage from it takes effect