td2-build-advice

[forest trail]

i can't quite find it
can you give me the link

[magic pilot]

Swap the shotgun for carnage

You want chc third attribute for LMGs

[solar berry]

Doesn’t OD essentially give out free ammo to. Since it’s bleed ammo?

[vestal ibex]

Yeah

[solar berry]

Helps ammo economy in a way

[magic pilot]

Yes, I run it with 5D open world

[bold leaf]

I've seen people say this but I've had instances (using Pistolero) where I have special ammo but can't fire the weapon because I'm out of regular ammo... so idk what's going on there

[solar berry]

I haven’t ran OD in a while 👀

[onyx sage]

just ubisoft things

[magic pilot]

I've never had that happen

[solar berry]

Might use it again someday

[onyx sage]

it happens sometimes

[magic pilot]

Wouldn't it fix on weapon swap?

[forest trail]

ty

[magic pilot]

Also I run it with gunner so that's probably why

[solar berry]

Been maining striker with EB forever now

Occasionally swap different primary weapon

[bold leaf]

I never thought to try that tbh

[magic pilot]

Memento? Couple blues?

[solar berry]

Ye

Usually 3 blues on the build

[vestal ibex]

HHF most fun build ever. Probably would have dropped the game if it wasn't for that build.

[magic pilot]

100% would not be playing

That and old tips

[solar berry]

I use many builds. Just always crawl back to striker EB

[magic pilot]

Old tips is what even got me to play the real end game stuff

[vestal ibex]

Outside of having to use meta strikers for speeds I'd 1000% just run HHF all day or in a group EP of some form.

[magic pilot]

Dodge city regulus probably one of my favorite chill builds to run for general use

[vestal ibex]

Brings literal meaning to "BOOM HEADSHOT"

[solar berry]

I just like free dmg with no downsides or jump through hopes

[bold leaf]

If the enemy would stop breakdancing in front of me I'd have a much more enjoyable time with Regulus xD

[solar berry]

Face to face with a shield

What they gonna do. Kiss your shield

[vestal ibex]

Bro these mfs will punch you to oblivion given the chance.

[onyx sage]

Here comes the hammer

[magic pilot]

Just gotta learn the movements

They are super consistent at least

[bold leaf]

Yeah I guess I'll get used to it eventually. Only got Regulus like 3 weeks ago so still some learning to do

[rich lotus]

Hit up Aimlabs

[vestal ibex]

Naw dude 20k DPI and 25 in game sense with muscle memory ez.

[pallid prairie]

does anyone here have a build for The Ravenous?

my current build is like such

[magic pilot]

I remember that guy

[vestal ibex]

If you don't have 1 micron/360 I ain't wanna hear it.

[magic pilot]

Didn't he have like 25% headshot rating

[vestal ibex]

I have no clue what your talking about at this point lol..

[onyx sage]

magic man soloing incursion

[vestal ibex]

Must have missed that one.

[rich lotus]

This is a very awesome build

😃

[magic pilot]

Nah it was awhile ago

Remember the guy talking about his sens and dpi

[vestal ibex]

Oh yeah but there is always that crowd.

[pallid prairie]

thanks

i'm trying to get better

[hexed steppe]

30k* ez

[west badge]

You want max DPI and Sense for Sniping 👨‍🦲

[sullen sun]

Is spotter on HB amplified dmg?

Is there any reason to run it?

[bright raptor]

yes

no because the 50 more stacks from the HB chest are stronger

[civic turret]

So Backfire---Striker with Hazpro and call it a day?

[vestal ibex]

Striker no haz pro and call it a day.

[civic turret]

Even better.

[vestal ibex]

AOK from gunner or palisade is plenty.

[civic turret]

The why not both GIF was good here, but forgot gifs were ruined.

All roads lead back to Striker.

[urban latch]

Hunters fury is another good option

[dreamy valve]

Which shotgun do you guys use for Headhunters now

[onyx sage]

still m870

[dreamy valve]

Do you guys feel Thorns 4 pellet to proc amp help with headshots

[onyx sage]

the spread is too big

you also only get 1 mod slot

[dreamy valve]

Is M870 spread the smallest?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[cobalt arrow]

what can i change about my build?

criticism welcome, newish player

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say mask to Grupo, but that's just me. some might not like turmoil and say go ceska chest with obliterate

[urban latch]

swap out the knees

[cobalt arrow]

yeah i was thinking the same, ive only used it because ive tried to find a use for it, what’s a good alternative?

[urban latch]

just a normal peice of ceska (the same brandset

[cobalt arrow]

wait so what would be the benefit of swapping it if it’s the same brand set sorry if it’s a stupid question

[cerulean smelt]

personally, go striker mask, gloves, holster and knees. ceska chest or backpack and grupo the other piece. obliterate and vigilence maybe?

[cobalt arrow]

hmm yeah okay i’ll try that out

[subtle bluff]

A reference.

[cerulean smelt]

as enticing as turmoil sounds, you're not gaining extra striker stacks out of it

[cobalt arrow]

hmm yeah i understand thanks very much guys much appreciated

[manic lantern]

What did I build same thing as on this pic without ever seeing this before, phahaha, i guess im basic

[subtle bluff]

it's the basic strikers.

[cerulean smelt]

personally. the coyote's is nice when you don't have the watch for chc/chd filled in. it helps, but once past that i'd say do the ceska/grupo combo

[subtle bluff]

It's good thing that mean you have a good grasp on building.

[manic lantern]

I mean, game literally decided this build instead of me by giving me this roll

[subtle bluff]

It does mention you can use Grupo instead.

Some how I have 2 of them which is prefect since I switch from obi and GC.

[cerulean smelt]

oh i know, i'm just saying that once you have the chc/chd on your watch filled in to swap over to that combo
people might not think that the coyote's mask doesn't stack up correctly
IE i shoot a person between this and this to get the higher chc/chd buff, then i shoot this other for the other chc/chd buff

[vestal ibex]

With strikers you just need to shoot em. Give em the old pew pew pew

[sullen night]

Which MMR would you guys recommend for a hot shot build?

Is there a "best" one in Damage/Handling tradeoff?

[magic pilot]

That's just wrong but ok

[magic pilot]

White death

[cerulean smelt]

that's why i said Personally. my personal opinion is coyotes is nice when you don't have your chc/chd filled in on watch it helps close that gap. past that i don't think it's needed anymore

[magic pilot]

"Nice" or more dps

Because either way coyotes is still the best option

[cerulean smelt]

if coyotes was "enemy in this range increases your chc/chd" sure, but it's your 2nd shot gets that dps increase
wearing ceska and grupo your just have chc/chd increase on your 1st shot

[magic pilot]

???

That's literally like .01% of your dps

It's not a one shot build lol

[cerulean smelt]

i'm not saying it is a 1 shot build
just thinking it's more effiecient to wear ceska/grupo and have an increase in dps based in 1 shot
instead of let me shoot this enemy within this range to get an increase in chc/chd then keep them in that range to continue to have that increase

[magic pilot]

its not more efficient though thats the thing

you are acting like its a huge insane task to shoot enemies between 15-25m even though thats pretty normal engagement distance in this game

With your logic headhunter is worse than glass cannon because it applies on the first shot

[cerulean smelt]

yes it is, but i do use headhunter with regulus and white death

but again, my personal opinion

[onyx sage]

it's good to have your own opinion, but we're not seeing any actual testing to validate said opinion

[subtle bluff]

SR a1 and the others that have a mag are good for your normal content. Once you need more dmg white death.

[magic pilot]

also you just said grupo would be more efficient which is a factual claim not an opinion

and is also wrong

[subtle bluff]

Imo player preference.

[onyx sage]

let's just keep this channel factual rather than feelscrafting

[cerulean smelt]

hmmm, my opinion triggered someone it seems

[onyx sage]

i mean opinions don't start or end with you

[magic pilot]

idrc about your opinion either way. my response was because your claim was that coyotes is less beneficial once you have the watch and optimized build which is not true

[hazy steeple]

Regardless of anything else, needing 10% less CHC. and Ceska only giving 8% CHC, seems like a bad trade-off.
but since most Gearset builds use both (optimally speaking), it feels like a redundant conversation overall.

[versed summit]

Feelscrafting

[cerulean smelt]

did they change the percentages on coyotes? thought they were something like 25% and forget the other 2 range differences?

[versed summit]

Not in ages

If at all

[hazy steeple]

15-25m: +10% critical hit chance and +10% critical hit damage
25m+: +25% critcal hit Chance```

It's why we usually suggest 50-55% instad of a flat 50% for AR setups.

[vestal ibex]

Coyotes is pretty much always a gain in CHC/CHD if you build it correctly.

[versed summit]

There’s an argument for damage consistency at different ranges, but it’s literally always giving you a buff after the first shot

[vestal ibex]

***first shot of the entire string of engagements you'll be in

Might not even crit too

[versed summit]

Literally barely any damage

[cerulean smelt]

but doesn't those change based on the ranges on coyotes as well? say you do hit an enemy in the 0-15, turn to hit another in the 15-25 you get the 15-25 buff?

[vestal ibex]

Yes it changes but if I made a build and we compare any of the ranges it'll be equal to or more stats than a ceska/grupo setup.

[onyx sage]

that change is still an upgrade over ceska/grupo

the worst buff is the close one which gives 25% chd, and it still is better than ceska/grupo in terms of crit value

oh maybe a bit worse (25 vs 29)

[magic pilot]

25/29 ?

[onyx sage]

yeah i'm just comparing in terms of crit value, i.e. 2*chc + chd

[magic pilot]

Ahhh

[onyx sage]

it's a napkin way of comparing crit buffs when they're mixed

[cerulean smelt]

i keep forgetting they changed all the numbers on gears too honestly
1 ceska is now 8%?

[vestal ibex]

yeah and grupo 13

[cerulean smelt]

grupo was 25%? or lower than that?

[vestal ibex]

15

Ceska was 10

[cobalt arrow]

ok whoever told me to do ceska and grupo thank you very big difference honestly

[cerulean smelt]

probably me, but if you read the chat above this you'll see my advice is bad

[cobalt arrow]

idk it’s working for me and i just spent like 2 hours grinding for good rolls so

i’m a solo player except for solo queue countdown so it’s working fine

[magic pilot]

probably better than what you had either way

[severe bolt]

I'm running a hunter's build what should I focus on adding the last two?

[cerulean smelt]

hunter's build? IE hunter's fury?

[severe bolt]

Hunter's fury

[cerulean smelt]

i need to farm me up a build and see if i can make it work with Turmoil knees. i'm picturing if i can manage it, solo door farming build XD

[subtle bluff]

More context.

[severe bolt]

Well I have mask, gloves, holsters and kneepads hunter fury, should I go for chest Solokov and backpack grupo if I can't find memento?

[manic lantern]

Guys, what with healing seeker mines? I cant figure out they work or not.

I mean, i pop them out once, they worked and then they turned into permanent emotional support pokemon

No amount of begging or pressing E made them heal ever again

[polar rose]

Could someone show me a rlly good dps striker build

[cerulean smelt]

this good?#td2-build-advice message

[polar rose]

Got all of them already just need to get the stats up

What guns would u recommend to ?

[worn charm]

i would recommend to try all of them and see what it suits your playstyle

[still lodge]

Is ceska chest better to wear with striker? I have capped ceska gloves and striker chest and backpack with 48% chc and 129% chd, shd level 69

[cerulean smelt]

striker chest is hard to maintain 200 stacks

[magic pilot]

def run ceska

[polar rose]

I was thinking to farm and use the bighorn I’m using st Elmos atm

[junior surge]

Any fast firing AR like Lexington, Famas, F2000, Police M4, Elmos and a secondary of your choice. Scorpio is great for ccing targets like hunters in countdown, Six12 or Like Glue can help you burst quick, any Acs12 variant if you wanna run chest. Smgs are also okay.

[solar sable]

F2k, Famas, if you have Lexi

[solar sable]

Bighorn is more of a PvP gun and only hits hard with headshots

[polar rose]

U can’t get Lexington anymore ?

[solar sable]

no

[cerulean smelt]

devs mentioned a streem or 2 ago. they plan to re-release it, but no details what they have in mind

[polar rose]

Would the chameleon be good

[solar sable]

hell no

[cerulean smelt]

if you like getting in their faces and dying after getting a stack (> <)

[polar rose]

Alright thx for the help

[hexed steppe]

Anyone got a good little horn build? 🐐

[versed summit]

It’s good on all the builds NBB is good on

That should get you started

[red island]

they should have made a little horn exotic for aprils fool

[versed summit]

They did

[red island]

oh damn

[versed summit]

Lol

[red island]

thats sick

too bad i cant play lately

[versed summit]

Rip

[manic lantern]

Is there actually practical use for healing trap/seeker mines?

[versed summit]

Healing trap no

seeker mines are solid though.

[manic lantern]

any advice on how to use them? felt really wonkey, like they refused to heal and just followed people

[normal pawn]

whats the infamous one shot build for sniper

[junior surge]

Which one lol

[fair dragon]

There's only one

[junior surge]

There are tons of different variations, but pretty much all make use of headhunter

[fair dragon]

Except only one variant is infamous

[junior surge]

right

[fair dragon]

And that's the Hotshot Determined

[junior surge]

Ok, but 3pc, 4pc, 2 habs, airaldi+chainkiller, foxes, contractors?

That's like saying there's only one striker build

[fair dragon]

How do you expect people to ask for the most specific-est of builds if they don't know what they're looking for?

[junior surge]

I don't. I was trying to show them some options, but you came in saying that there's only one specific version that they can possibly mean

[fair dragon]

There are many variants of a Hotshot Determined. You gotta have Hotshot, Determined, and Headhunter. For simplicity's sake, that's all they need to know

[solar sable]

Only, if only, they ask for the other variarions then give them the variations
why do you people always have to go all nerdy instead of just giving newbies what they're asking for... gosh.

[onyx sage]

full red you die in 2 shoots

[fair dragon]

DW you will crit on the 3rd mag

[versed summit]

gearsets are only good in a group

[onyx sage]

i didn't say that

[versed summit]

stop patronizing me

[red island]

no, they can be good in solo

[onyx sage]

we're using quotes from a notorious guy

who believes that crit is calculated per mag and gear sets genuinely are bad in solo

[red island]

if it aint from notorious big it doesnt count as notorious i decided

but sounds like a cool dude

[versed summit]

yeah he's a jre mod

[onyx sage]

he used to be here

[red island]

an average player you could say

jre ?

[onyx sage]

don't disrespect the average player

[versed summit]

personally I don't know why he cares that much about java runtime experience, but it's fine by me ig

[onyx sage]

they're smarter than that

[red island]

no disrespect, i also am one

[onyx sage]

joe rogan environment

[red island]

average person moment

[versed summit]

so true

[fervent shuttle]

Someone knows what to Farm for Sniper high DMG build?

[solar sable]

Hotshot set
↓
#td2-build-advice message

[pseudo badge]

Whats a good build that gives high dmg?

[hexed steppe]

striker, mortar, eclipse, headhunter/sniper. what flavor you want?

[versed summit]

I dunno about eclipse for high damage tbh

[solar sable]

is there a mix of strawberry, chocolate and vanilla?

[versed summit]

like kinda, but I dunno

[hexed steppe]

fire eclipse in team performs well up to heroic

[versed summit]

Neapolitan

[hexed steppe]

team spreading and all

[versed summit]

i mean it's strong

just kinda weird imo to call it high damage

[solar sable]

I think of a nbb build as neapolitan ice cream

[versed summit]

Neapolitan bike backpack?

[solar sable]

is this a new term

[hexed steppe]

its there. idk. personally ill use eclipse or mortar way more than striker. they all work well for general stuff. you arent taking ep into leg/raid/incursion ill grant

plus dude gave no context into purpose, the suggestion covers a lot

ig more accurately, those suggestions would be the top of their respective category

[versed summit]

yeah that's a good point

[hexed steppe]

personally, hb been pretty good this season with the modifiers

[hazy steeple]

There's a pun in there about holding up under heat but I'm not quite there yet.

[pseudo badge]

Prob eclipse or striker

[hexed steppe]

both are pretty easy to set up. do you know about the pinned spreadsheet. there are a ton of proven *build guides in it

[hexed steppe]

forgot tag 👆

[pseudo badge]

No i dont

[hexed steppe]

pinned in this channel, spreadsheet 2 iirc, look for Hub (builds) tab. each build line has a detailed breakdown linked at the end. they list best gear to use for that specific build and variants

this is an example, striker breakdown pulled from the sheet https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/sh/0ee25268-ad51-0dd8-be36-f12373c7630a/ed1072bcb59a18f66b8619994f12c4e6

[pseudo badge]

This is what i have so far, im gonna try to get a better holster, with max damage, but other than that what would you recommend skills wise?

[solar sable]

Striker chest is only for raids/incursion, not really recommended for anything else, maybe legendary

[hazy steeple]

^Heroic CD it can work, but you have to be pretty agressive and know the spawns well.

[cerulean smelt]

i'd cry if the finale was master Countdown

[dreamy valve]

Nah it’s gunna be ||Roosevelt||

[hexed steppe]

its a good start. with dps the focus is getting crit chance to the 50% range and filling the rest of the attributes with crit damage. the formula is right tho, just need to farm highend ceska* chest and striker knee so you can swap around for optimal setup depending on the content

[pseudo badge]

Alright what about eclipse, i cant access the doc thing rn for some reason

[hexed steppe]

fire setup is 4pc eclipse, including chest and bag, vile mask if have , then eletrique/wyvern off piece (glove/knee/holster)

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/sh/8f1fc875-172a-9331-f92e-fe314f1772f5/dc56508e8364ba0de3919f877c42afe8

status effects and haste attributes

[fervent shuttle]

Whats a good build for the chatterbox?

[subtle bluff]

Realistic HF is the only good one. I use it once in awhile on striker but that's because I know where spawns are.

[knotty rose]

if im farming for a named gear item, should i target the brand or the item type like backpack?

[patent fossil]

Always brand, there are far fewer possible drops within the brand so more likely to get the one you want

[knotty rose]

gotcha thanks

[civic turret]

Do we know the rough difference in DPS between DTA and DTTOC?

I know DTTOC is better, but I'm contemplating whether I want to grind for a new Dark Winter (I've got a max DTA roll currently).

[patent fossil]

Depends what you're shooting at, and the size of the roll - iirc dta on a weapon is 8% while dtooc is 10%, then dta is better vs veterans and elites in cover while dtooc is better vs warhounds, chungas, and anyone out of cover

[civic turret]

I'd imagine the difference isn't substantial.

But I tend to be picky with these kind of things.

[hazy steeple]

One major factor with dtooc is that unless an enemy is actively in proper cover, it will work on them.
It's why dtooc is the "ideal" stat for pretty much every gun that we have, and dta is considered a secondary option at most.

The tl;dr is that the math nerds say dtooc, so I trust their giant glasses and pocket calculators and go for dtooc.

[patent fossil]

Dta does have some advantageous interactions with Nego, some skills, and possibly HH iirc, but even then I don't think it's really worth worrying about for those circumstances

[hazy steeple]

It working on every enemy is a big bonus.

Just be cool and use an LMG, save yourself the choice.

[magic pilot]

HH yes

[junior surge]

Do you have something else recalibrated on that gun? If not, you can just recalibrate dta to dttooc and not have to grind a new one

[fresh fox]

yea it does on hh

[vestal ibex]

Since DW has a locked talent you should have recalibrated your third stat. As for which is more DPS it's too hard to calculate that cause it's content dependent. If looking at a snap shot of a situation we find typical tho it'll still be DTTOOC more than not considering how much stuff is in cover vs your possible gains via nego or double dipping situations then there is all the things that don't have armor like chungas/dogs and others.

[fresh fox]

multiplies within the headhunter damage calc iirc

but dttoc better for 99% of cases because shot damage also matters

[vestal ibex]

Yeah but it's typically kinda whatever at that point cause huge over damage anyway.

[fresh fox]

yea

maybe for something like harvest in group content

but like just use reg bruh

[vestal ibex]

Yeah idk the typical break points for that even, might make 0 difference.

[civic turret]

Oh wait I can recalibrate it.

This is how little I've interacted with non-exotics.

[brittle drift]

Hey guys. Are there any builds that are decent for players who use a rifle and an assault rifle? I use m1a and a Strega, depending on the distance of enemies. I also like to take my time and I think I do not use the Striker gamble too much. Only when enemies are rushing at me then I see the increase of the damage

[patent fossil]

you could use negotiators dilemma - there's a guide in the pinned spreadsheet

[brittle drift]

Will check it out thanks

[magic pilot]

If you mainly want to run Strega I would recommend striker or a high end build

Umbra could work as well

[patent fossil]

that's true, strega isn't a good combo with negotiators.
But then, if you're taking your time and not building striker stacks quickly then you're likely not getting the most out of Strega either, since groups of enemies may well have spread out too far by the time you're killing them

[onyx sage]

i'd recommend hunter's fury actually, though it's inconsistent in hard content

[west badge]

yeah strega stack is a little oof

[dreamy valve]

I want to make Turmoil work

I need to

[vestal ibex]

Press equip and boom there ya go.

[flint wave]

🤯

[untold condor]

Any chatterbox or ouroboros Build ideas that are funny but still really good ?

[vestal ibex]

Just all your normal DPS builds mostly.

[untold condor]

Like strikers or HF ? Or can i make it work with OD ? Or isnt it good ?

[vestal ibex]

All of that sounds good.

Plus all of these items are from normal builds anyway it's pretty easy to just slap it on, adjust CHC to be where it should and just try it out to see what you find most fun.

[subtle bluff]

My one note is that with OD builds, that sadist is a good chuck of its dps.

[untold condor]

Yeah i thought so Thats the reason i asked if OD is any good

[paper pecan]

Anybody here have a good memento build with the chameleon?

[idle crane]

Advice, boomer negosh for doors

[urban latch]

use chainkiller

or do you need prov for 150%?

[subtle bluff]

or a m870 with pummel.

[vestal ibex]

Boomer nego

For pubs

[subtle bluff]

oh.. wurd

[normal pawn]

Does a high end build deliver more dmg than stacking build like hb or strikers

[onyx sage]

if you don't let the stacking build get stacks then yes

[normal pawn]

AHAHAHAH fair

[proven merlin]

Does pummel still even work? Didnt they patch pummel not too long ago?

[subtle bluff]

That was for someone thing else.

[cerulean smelt]

all they really patch on it was so we can't use pummel with Chem launcher i believe

[proven merlin]

oh yeah for eclipse burn and oxi right

[subtle bluff]

oxi isn't a status effect

[proven merlin]

i know its not im mentioning it because i seen it in a few builds that also had oxi

saw one that was sticky burn and oxi chem

[thick scaffold]

hello i was looking for a dz build thats fairly simple to throw together. any suggestions?\

[solar sable]

check the PvP guide in the 📌 spreadsheet

[signal needle]

Does anyone know what glove these are?

[hazy steeple]

The brand is ceska, there's no named ceska gloves, so just that.

That brand is the usual choice for a gearset build, as it offers free crit chance. (CHC)

[woeful zodiac]

How do I get doubles kill using explosive skills? Can anyone recommend a build for it

[hazy steeple]

Explosive Seekier Mine works well, as does the Mortar. Just lower the difficulty if you get stuck.

The Turret/Drone setup works fine for this, if you just trade out the drone for a Seeker Mine and change it to Demo for the Spec Tree.
It'll go by in a flash.
There's a full build if you need it in the 📌 >spreadsheet 2 > builds of this channel.

[woeful zodiac]

I legit crashed out when I used seeker mine and shrapnel trap to take over Navy Plaza

[hazy steeple]

Sorry, I don't speak youth.

[fair dragon]

Mortar turret is the easiest since seeker mines are inaccurate

[hazy steeple]

You can target with the Seeker Mines too.

[fair dragon]

6 mil damage easily one-hits reds and purples on Heroic

[hazy steeple]

There's actually a Modifier later on in the Journey that lets you make them frankly kinda OP.

[woeful zodiac]

Sorry, in other words I raged because it was trash🗑️

[hazy steeple]

If you know enemy spawns well, you can nuke them very effectively with the Mortar alone.

[grand jolt]

It feels like no one goes on raids at all. I tried to find a party last night... I've been searching for 40 minutes now... eh...

[hazy steeple]

If you mean on Discovery difficulty, that's because it's a worthless mode, that doesn't reward you any of the exotics/projects/boss loot/has easier enemies/and different mechanics.
If you mean Normal mode; try out the GCrock discord server, you can find it via 🧭 discover, and they regularly teach raids in there.
Happy Raiding, Agent

[grand jolt]

How is it not rewarding? A huge part of the drawings opens there, but if they have already opened everything, this does not mean that it does not give anything.

[hazy steeple]

No I mean it literally doesn't award any of those things. It's basically a walking tour with some easy NPC's.
No Regulus Project, no Ravenous, no Eagle Bearer, no blueprints, nada.

If you have a question about Raids in the future, feel free to head on down to #td2-raid-discussions

Normal mode for the Raid doesn't have matchmaking, so if you find yourself in matchmaking for a Raid: you are in the wrong mode.

[grand jolt]

So it's pretending to be looking for players? Strangely, I just chose the medium difficulty mode (there is no other one) and chose the selection of players. It's a pity you can't send screenshots here so that I can show it)

[hazy steeple]

You can in this channel, but this is the wrong channel for it. Head on over to #ask-td2-community and post a screenshot of what you're talking about.

[grand jolt]

Oh my God, I'm sorry. I didn't even pay attention to which channel I was writing in.... 😱

[fair dragon]

Legend says that Rivens is still waiting for the screenshot

[steep plover]

Hi im looking to make a bleed build any recommendations on what to use?

[versed summit]

Bleed is kind of a meh status, so we mostly use it to proc other talents.

Ongoing directive is a build that bleeds enemies, but it’s really about the damage increase you get to bleeding enemies.

There’s a guide in the pinned spreadsheet.

[steep plover]

Ah no probs

[steep plover]

Any smg shotgun builds you recommend?

[versed summit]

Check out the hunter’s Fury guide in the pinned spreadsheet

[covert meadow]

What is considered a 'high end build' all red standard build or blue build,'? From the spreadsheet?

[fair dragon]

Any thing that does not have gear sets in it

High-End is the gold(?) rarity of gear

[covert meadow]

Oh @fair dragon ok thank you, I'm looking at the sheet and I'm trying to figure out what to build, that can focus on solo pve, so figured I better ask

[rich lotus]

What would be the best assault rifle to use the Elmo or the Strega? Or does it really matter?

[versed flame]

depends on the build

[patent fossil]

Both will work well. Strega depends on you getting the kill so might fall off a bit in group content (but even then probably not, with a build like that you'll likely be getting most of the kills).
Elmo crit stats are maybe more helpful at low shd levels like that when you don't have the watch bonuses, but either way it's probably not a huge factor.
I'd say try them both, maybe use Elmo more in open world and for individual tough targets (like rogue encounters) and strega more in missions where enemies are grouped together

[bright hill]

Sorry if this is a dumb question. I keep seeing this amazing dmg/dps builds with Striker. All weapon, chc, chd maxed etc. What is the advice for armor in this case? I've tried this build and I feel like the damage output doesn't really offset how much of a glass cannon you are. What am I missing? I also accpet the answer "you're just bad, get better"

[cerulean smelt]

are you using Sacrifice chest? or ceksa with Glass Cannon talent on it?

[bright hill]

I was using striker chest. sometimes ninja bike with hunter to get the 4 piece striker + healing effects of hunter

[bright raptor]

the Striker chest is not very practical outside of raids, the incursion or Legendary as most enemies die before you can fully stack

[cerulean smelt]

well, striker chest gives you 200 stacks which you rarely get doing missions and open world activities and the time you take running from point a to b with stacks makes them all go poof

[bright hill]

ahh okay this is helpful. being doing more countdowns and summits recently

[bright raptor]

Ninjabike for that is just a worse version of the Gunner passive on kill regeneration

[cerulean smelt]

nods most people aren't a fan of ninja bike. since you don't get a damage talent you lose damage

[bright hill]

ahhh okay this very helpful. thank you

[bright raptor]

you're better going for the Striker backpack and going for a damage talent like Obliterate, or Unbreakable in case stuff goes wrong

the Exodus gloves introduced this season also offer an unusual way to heal up after armor break due to how it works - if I'm remembering correctly swapping weapons after its talent is triggered fully regenerates armor

[bright hill]

okay okay cool! I'm glad I ask. Thanks for being so helpful

[cerulean smelt]

about only use i can find for Ninjabike backpack is trying to create some kind of Hybrid build, but i haven't found any i enjoy using yet so the bag sits in the stash atm

[bold leaf]

Tbf to ninja bag, it works really well as an exotic component

[cerulean smelt]

i'm sure it does, only one i have so i have it favorited

[signal needle]

Anyone know how i can get the coyote mask and orouboro fast?

[bright raptor]

1. Mask target loot Challenging Countdown and buy exotic caches with the reward currency

2. find a group that regularly does incursion runs

[signal needle]

Where can i get the exotic caches

[cerulean smelt]

know where to find this place?

[signal needle]

I thought you meant the one with textiles not premium

[cerulean smelt]

i'm confused, when did textiles get used for countdown purchases?

[signal needle]

Theres like a secret vendor that sells exotic caches for 500 textiles

[cerulean smelt]

i know, but Krieger didn't mention danny

[signal needle]

Im trying to go for this build

[patent fossil]

You find Danny (the textile vendor) the same way as Cassie, by spawning the snitch and talking to him

[cerulean smelt]

nods but not what they're asking and i was confused as they mentioned using textiles but noone mentioned it#td2-build-advice message

[civic turret]

Does Ongoing just replace all status rounds (Elmos/Iron Lung) if someone else is running it in your party?

[cerulean smelt]

believe you'd still do bleeding but also shocking for elmo and fire for iron lung, but i usually solo so i have no clue how that'd interact

[civic turret]

Nah I think it replaces those rounds.

[cerulean smelt]

actually, maybe elmo overrights the bleed? iron lung might still operate in burning and bleeding

[patent fossil]

Yeah, you answered that question and I'm answering the question they might have been also trying to ask about how to find Danny

Yes shock bullets replace the amp damage bleed bullets, and vice versa, so it's not a great combo. Iron lung is better since the fire effect doesn't come from special bullets

[civic turret]

So if someone else is running Ongoing your Iron Lung build doesn't suffer.

Good.

[patent fossil]

Correct, and you can also effectively run iron lung on your own OD build for easy status proccing, although you lose the option of Sadist that way

[versed glacier]

Is it only me or did they half removed yaahl gear?
Do never seem it as targeted loot, and not able to select as targeted loot as well...

[cerulean smelt]

still exists in the game, if you're asking about that specfically are you just trying to get a Hollowman Mask? named caches will give you a better chance of getting it

otherwise Legacy Manhunt caches, maybe conflict caches?

[versed glacier]

I wanted the 10% hazard protection.
Super lucky, that I just bearly had enough to craft 3 holsters and one was ok. Backfire build.
But yeah. Kind of a bummer that I would have opened caches for an eternity if I would not have been lucky on the third crafted one.

[bright hill]

these april fools exotics are killing me

[cerulean smelt]

heard they kind of nerfed the backfire bleed a bit where you don't have to worry to much about it aside the non-sprinting aspect of being bled

[cerulean smelt]

think you woke up yannick 👀

[bright hill]

someone dropped me eagle bearer... it says april fools, but this dude is trying to tell me I can still equip it. so confused

[karmic osprey]

It's called beagle bearer it's only good for exotic components

[red island]

you cant equip it

[bright hill]

so bummed. i got so hard when he dropped it for me. thought it was the real thing lol

[cerulean smelt]

if they didn't drop it for you in Dark Hours, then it's not a real exotic aside being a free component

[karmic osprey]

The one you have can't be equipped at all it's just there to be scrapped or collected

[cerulean smelt]

i know, just telling them if they see it and they're not getting it shared from Dark Hours it's a fake

[karmic osprey]

You can also get it from the dark zone but it's more rare there

[cerulean smelt]

if you can extract i think yes

[karmic osprey]

If your lucky enough to even have it drop in the dz 0.024% chance from what I was told

[cerulean smelt]

yes, extremely low, least dark hours if it drops its a guarantee

[bright hill]

but really... this is the most annoying game gimmick

[cerulean smelt]

lol, i appreciate it honestly, but yeah i'd be a little on the pissed side if i was in the hunt for say a coyote's mask and think i got it finally only to find Dogface

main account i have all exotics possible i believe minus the april fools exotics so i'm not too worried about anything atm

[bright hill]

It was funny for a day... but it's the 5th

[elder kite]

what knee pads should i rock right now with my currents set up? i just got back into the game after being gone like a year.

[patent fossil]

It was never in target loot, only drops in DZ, DZ caches, conflict caches and possibly legacy season caches. Occasionally the clan vendor sells a piece though, you can buy up a load to deconstruct for materials, then craft your own

[cerulean smelt]

turmoil is nice, but know that the hits that damage other targets don't increase your striker/chameleon stacks

[patent fossil]

More hits against your current target help build stacks though

Most on kill talents suffer with turmoil, but on hit ones are fine

[elder kite]

oh okay ill keep that in mind.

[elder kite]

so as long as im hitting shots it will stack no matter what?

[patent fossil]

Yup, no reason why it wouldn't

[cerulean smelt]

from what i saw, Preservation and Armor On Kill worked perfectly with turmoil
things like striker stack, hunter's fury stack and so on. think on hit mechanic involved didn't work so well
about only thing that works awesome is the Determined headshot builds getting a 2 for 1

[patent fossil]

Preservation works, headhunter is just broken strong (albeit harder to build stacks in the first place), for strikers it's just a trade off where you have to spend twice as long shooting an enemy but less time reaiming at the next enemy.
Other sets tend to be worse off with it for various reasons.

[elder kite]

Thanks everyone i appreciate the advice!

[hard turret]

Can i better optimize this sniper build?

Also, if I want to farm for The Gift do I put targetted loot as bagpacks or providence?

[solar sable]

Gift isn't worth the time spent
Get another Airaldi backpack with all red (weapon handling & HSD) to get rid of that blue in there.

[hard turret]

but if I were to farm what would be the most efficient way?

[hard turret]

I see ok

[red island]

hardly, you will already be overkilling everything but tanks

you can lose a lot of stats and still be overkilling npcs

[cerulean smelt]

gift is just a 1 second difference honestly

[solar sable]

It's a DZ drop, and as 50UL said, it's not a huge difference or buff in any way

[patent fossil]

Gift is a dz-locked drop so ideally you'd farm one of the DZs when it has providence target loot, but honestly airaldi is better in your current build since weapon damage boosts your max damage with headhunter stacks, but headshot damage doesn't.

[solar sable]

I'll also suggest some changes in your secondary weapons and skills:

Instead of Pesti, you can use Scorpio for very tight situations where you're on serious danger.
Instead of healing hive, use reviver.
If you usually run with the Directive Fog of War, use Scanner Pulse.

Healing hive without Repair Skills or Skill tiers is useless and doesn't even cover 10% of your total armor.

[hard turret]

i see okok

[glad heart]

Since you have already received "advice" on everything you have done wrong with your build, but no one told you how to actually get The Gift: To get the named backpack, you farm for the brand, E.G. Providence. For exotics, you farm for the gear type. That said, though I agree that Airaldi is probably best for you build, it goes well with other builds. You can pick up the Gift from a DZ vendor, collect 152 DZ currency (from narrow loot boxes) and hold on to it. Check the vendors weekly, until you find it on sale. May take a little time, but it will show up. Time consuming prehaps, but the easiest way to get DZ locked gear.

[red island]

best way to get dz gear is just farming dz

anything you dont want : deconstruct for dz ressources

its way faster than the boxes

[glad heart]

I would not say that, as I have got the needed resources in an hour several times, and without the harassment of players whose life purpose is to kill other players.

[red island]

i didnt say it would be easy or without risk

[glad heart]

The first time I went in the DZ, the very first time, I was rewarded The Gift, for something, and i dropped my first rogue with lady death... But I digress... haha

[rich lotus]

besides maxing out the damage mods how can I increase damage

[red island]

use the named petrov instead of the not named holster

[rich lotus]

I perfer no reload any time

[red island]

if you not running raids or lengedary or incursion the chest is overkill tbh

[subtle bluff]

It's not that it's overkill it's not being used even. Getting past 100 stacks and keep it up in normal content isn't a thing really.

[rich lotus]

why not striker vest

doubles output

[subtle bluff]

You ask how to do more damage. Other weapons do more damage but BK is only only good sustained DPS.

[versed flame]

weapons of your choice

[subtle bluff]

I already explained it I'll do it again.
Getting past 100 stacks and keep it above is hard to do in normal content.
Getting someone else that gives you more dmg while aside to striker is better.

[versed flame]

You won't get as many stacks in the world.

[rich lotus]

I have never ending clip so idk if going without is good

anyways I can try yours

[subtle bluff]

So for this case has the pic I showed earlier is using this chest talent.

Obliterate: Critical hits increase total weapon damage by 1% for 10s. Stacks up to 20 times.

[solar sable]

You don't even have 100 stacks when you kill an Elite bru

[rich lotus]

depends on enemy

[versed flame]

try this

[subtle bluff]

Let me put it a different way.
what if you were building more damage with another stack?
So when you get to let say 50 stacks you'd have another stacks of 20% damage on top of your 40% amp.

Is that better? or is having a someone you have to build more to get to more damage?

[rich lotus]

do yalls get up to like 50mil dps

[subtle bluff]

How about doing 21mill with a healing chem launcher?

[subtle bluff]

We can do more but that's not the point here.

[rich lotus]

last question is possible get 100% damage reduction

I know there is exotic like 25% close up

and drone which is like 65 or something

[subtle bluff]

no

[red island]

you cant double output if everything is dead before

[subtle bluff]

here's depending this well over 50mill dps.

[red island]

thats why its not good for heroic

[subtle bluff]

nah.. He can't even get to 200 stacks in any normal content is the point.

[red island]

yeah thats what i said

[subtle bluff]

If he asking for how to do more dmg then say he can do more dmg let him be tbh.

[rich lotus]

I playing heroic seams 200 not enough

[red island]

its way more than you need

[rich lotus]

well switch heroic and challenging

[red island]

on this build i rarely go over 50 stacks on heroic

cause everything dies so fast

[rich lotus]

I go to 200 seams I still struggling kill

[red island]

how

[rich lotus]

sometimes

[hexed steppe]

Easy to hit 200 striker stacks if you jack up your crit and all low damage

[subtle bluff]

Ya because you don't do good dps.

[red island]

show us your stats tab

[rich lotus]

is bulletking low damage?

[red island]

no, its fine damage

[subtle bluff]

Yes

[hexed steppe]

Yes

[subtle bluff]

It's mid

[red island]

there is better weapon but if you run striker its not your problem

[subtle bluff]

Argh I'm using that word.

[red island]

you shouldnt be at 200 stacks

whatever weapon you use tbh

you're supposed to have so much dps that you lack targets to shoot at cause they die

[rich lotus]

I just need change my gun

[red island]

its not a gun pb here

i use bk and i rarely go over 50 stacks

cause everything dies so fast

[hexed steppe]

What are your crit stats

[red island]

show us your stats tab

[rich lotus]

believe once my watch maxed it will be like 50ish percent and max out my crit damage will be 100 plus the coyote

and I turned off xbox

[red island]

rip

[hexed steppe]

You'll want to hit 50/150 or close too. I think it's possible with striker

[rich lotus]

well it's a estimate

[hexed steppe]

Weapon choice can make a difference tho since exo have locked mods

[rich lotus]

struggling find maxed mods

[red island]

you dont need maxed mod

start with a normal stat on mods, then replace when you find better

but striker with lmg is crit based, if your crit chance is low, or crit damage is low, or both, your damage with be very low

with some buffs/talent, crit damage can become insanely strong, like a non crit bullet will do 150k damage and a crit one will do 500k

you want the crit

[rich lotus]

50% isn't low

[red island]

non crit bullets are just to build stacks tbh, the crit bullets are here to do the damage

[red island]

its the lowest you should be

coyote can give you +10% crit chance if you are in the medium range, which give you the capped crit chance

[hexed steppe]

50% chance is right on to money for coyote. The lower crit damage was what I saw as the concern. It kinda indicates that you might have non optimal setup where you had to trade some damage rolls to get your chance right. Obv if watch isnt maxed thats kinda understandable, to a point.

[hexed steppe]

I'm pretty sure that's understood..

[paper pecan]

Where can I find builds like this? Like the picture you have?

[subtle bluff]

Look up my name here for images you'll find a few of them.
We don't have a place where we posted them all atm.

[paper pecan]

I did an image search and stumbled across a massive collection of unique builds for different exotic weapons and gear pieces. They all stem from Reddit it seems

[subtle bluff]

iKia would be the next with all the pics kind of like this.

[peak moss]

I’m rerolling my ouroboros but can’t seem to get dttoc

Is that non compatible or bad luck?

[subtle bluff]

RnG bad luck

[peak moss]

I c

[subtle bluff]

when I first got my elmo after ouro it took me like 27 rolls.

[hexed steppe]

perfect opportunity to link them all in an evernote and add it to your profile links 😉

[subtle bluff]

Ya making more gonna be using something else and making more of them.

[civic turret]

Is Strega best on Striker as per usual?

[worldly laurel]

I mean... probably? That or Heartbreaker would be interesting for it.

[civic turret]

I mean I'd imagine it's Striker, but the lower RPM/smaller mag size was enough to question it.

[thorny anvil]

Hello. I'm new player to division 2. I'm like level 4. How do i get a sniper early? And i would like a build help for solo sniper with self heal. Is this build good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ee8fiBPVs ? How do i get the weapons and other gear? And how do i get gear before the final gear? What attributes etc. Thanks.

[subtle bluff]

If you're not 40 yet don't worry about this yet. Level up and play the storyline.

[thorny anvil]

Thanks, but i still want to know the things i asked. Just to have something to work towards and build the play style for the end build while i'm leveling...

For example that guide on youtube has the skills fixer drone and sniper turret. I would like to know if it's good, so i can use those skills while i level up. Also to gear up in the same style.

[subtle bluff]

Till you're 40 the build and stuff doesn't matter. You're gonna be changing gear the whole time.
Gave before 40 and when your 40 is a completely a different game. Basically.

[solar sable]

That build seems like a temu clone of strikers nbb

[subtle bluff]

I didn't even look at it.

[charred swift]

leave a comment and do share opinions on improving it :))

[subtle bluff]

Read the Strikes Gearset.

[limpid sky]

Okay so I’m trying to get back into division 2 but I wanna find a good build for the eagle bearer but all build ideas that I find are like 2-3 years old so what build is good for it in 2025

[subtle bluff]

It's all the same Strikers.

[limpid sky]

Thank you man

You lowkey helped me a lot 😭

[charred swift]

Can anyone explain in easier words the benefit of having 4 strikers gear set?

[vestal ibex]

Almost no great set is worth taking over brand sets unless you unlock the 4 pc set. The reason is you get no bonus from 1 pc sets and you lack a second attribute. The 4 pc bonuses(seems like you didn't read what it does) are powerful enough to make up for those stat losses and then some.

The biggest outlier to this is the hot shot set which just provides such a huge bonus to damage in head Hunter builds so you can use 2-4 pieces and have a great build regardless.

[charred swift]

The reason I asked this is because, if I equip 3 strikers gear and 3 others, my cric hit dmg and chance gets higher but the enemies dont die as quickly as they do when I equip 4 strikers gear set (But the cric hit dmg and chance gets lower than the combination where I use 3 strikers gear)

Im confused if I should go with 4 or 3 strikers gear😅

[fresh fox]

4

read what 4 pieces of striker gives you

then you’ll know why they die faster

[charred swift]

But the cric hit damage & chance is about 10% and 8% higher if I use 3 strikers gear set, it is because I have a better kneepad than the strikers kneepad

[fresh fox]

read the striker 4 piece

[charred swift]

I have also seen players with striker kneepads of 2 attributes while mine have only 1

Any idea how or where I could get the one with 2?

[fresh fox]

you can’t

[charred swift]

...

[fresh fox]

they do not have 2 attributes on a gearset piece

[charred swift]

What did I see then 😐

[fresh fox]

must be blind i’m afraid

sorry pal

[charred swift]

I truly am tho lol

[fresh fox]

#noticing

[charred swift]

A cric hit chance of 50% is pretty decent right?

[hazy steeple]

It has an absolute maximum of 60%.

[charred swift]

Seems like I cannot go that far with my build, I would have to give up on some cric damage if so😅

Would it be worth it tho?

[hazy steeple]

What's your overall build? If you want, you can post a picture of the main page in this channel.

[charred swift]

I did, scroll up for a mini second and you would see :))

[hazy steeple]

I honestly thought that it had been improved.
With a Gearset, you should have 4 pieces or no pieces. So in the case of Striker, you ideally want something like Coyotes Mask, a high-end chest w/obliterate as the talent (ceska is the ideal brand there) and the rest are all just Striker pieces.

Basically, just copy the build from the Spreadsheet, it's been mathed out by our resident nerds.

[charred swift]

Off topic for this channel but, could you specifically say where can I get named cleaners (other than DLC)? Idk how or where I killed 1/5 but I need 4 more and I happen to complete all bounties on my map but still no progress

[hazy steeple]

Can you not access the NYC map?

[charred swift]

Isnt that paid DLC?

[hazy steeple]

You should be able to, even without owning the DLC.

[charred swift]

Or what? How?

[hazy steeple]

Check up the top of your main map, there's an icon that you can fast travel to.
I'm unsure about what you would need Named Cleaners for though.

[charred swift]

What do I play if I specifically want to farm good gears? (Such as a good striker holster and the ceska vest you said about?)

[charred swift]

Projects

[hazy steeple]

Challenging Countdown, you can pick your own Targeted Loot (TL), and it's also the best place to get the Exotics that aren't Raid locked from.

If you are farming a specific brand, make sure you farm the Brand. e.g. with the Ceska Chest, go for Ceska.

[charred swift]

So yes, if I want strikers holster, do I select Holster or Strikers gear as targeted loot?

[charred swift]

Im afraid I cant, it says 'Go to Store'

New York City is what you are referring to I assume?

[hazy steeple]

Same goes for Strikers.

You shouldn't have access to any Projects that require the WONY dlc. But if you can't finish it, don't worry too much, it'll just be a daily/weekly one, they're something you tend to forget about before too logn anyway.

[charred swift]

I would have got good rewards if I finished it tho, dont really want to miss out on these😅

One more thing, is summit a better option for farming those gears which I talked about? Or do you still rate countdown higher than summit for farming?

[solar sable]

nope, summit is much slower than countdown, in countdown you get more than 25 drops in the whole 20 minute run

in the same amount of time in summit, you get around 10 drops

[hazy steeple]

If you get lucky with your Countdown team (or make your own with good players down in #lfg-pc), you can easily clear 30-40 loot pieces, most of which will be your TL.

[woeful zodiac]

Is Backfire better than Dark Winter?

[hazy steeple]

It's a bit of a loaded question, but generally speaking with its recent massive buffs, Dark Winter wins out.

[woeful zodiac]

Is chatterbox better than Dark Winter?

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no.

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no.

[woeful zodiac]

Do u have a definite answer

[subtle bluff]

It's all about talent and how you keep the uptime of it on.

[patent fossil]

Coney Island Amusement Park has one, Jupiter manhunt has one. You can maybe farm them by running on challenging or lower difficulty and letting the other adds in the area down you after killing them once

[terse prairie]

Grupo 🎒 on this??

[cerulean smelt]

assuming you're doing 3 providence, fox's, contractor's and you're short on chd? grupo will increase that a bit for when you crit

[terse prairie]

Yeah something like that here’s the cors broski

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say just look at your stats and add 13% CHD and see if that'd be an increase. can't say for sure since i never play rifles

[terse prairie]

Be hitting enough for dh?

I’m hitting anywhere from - min 500.000 to max 1.6m damage per shot

[cerulean smelt]

dark hours? no clue i haven't ran that in forever

anyone have thoughts on Clutch + Turmoil knees being "godly"?

[subtle bluff]

Barely for the speed we can do these days. I’ll end up struggling on ad clear on razorback.

[subtle bluff]

Problem is that you’ll be take away from you dmg that’s almost half from turmoil.

[cerulean smelt]

yeah i kind of figured that part, just wasn't sure if it was godly as they described it. watched a bit of their video and seen it edited to show moments when they completely lost their armor and got most of it back in encounters. was impressed honestly but i stopped watching so i don't know aside turmoil knees and whatever backpack with clutch on it they used

[patent fossil]

Why use clutch when we have a passive modifier that's basically the same but better?

[faint ocean]

Tried to use Turmoil. Neat concept, but went back to my maxed out Ceska instead. I put it in the Stash.

[patent fossil]

It's good when your build is overkill for the content, if you're killing elites in like 2s then might as well run it

[remote sequoia]

Has to be my new favorite build to run. Cherished and Anarchist Cookbook with Ongoing Directive. Keep meaning to slap a Grudge as a backup keep forgetting. But, I have one of my Lexingtons with Sadist rolled on to it. Though, I have used Saint Elmo's either one works pretty good.

And yeah, it could hit harder with the blue cores taken out, but honestly still hits pretty hard.

[hard turret]

are there any summit exclusive exotics?

[cerulean smelt]

ridgeway's pride (shame april fools chest) comes to mind

i feel there's another one in there, but nothing comes to mind on it atm

[fair dragon]

Not really exclusive but there's the Capacitor

[hard turret]

thanks

[remote sequoia]

Don't you have to get it through the Summit for it to get added to your general loot pool?

[rich lotus]

Could anyone tell me a good pvp dark zone build? I want to start venturing around the dark zones without being bullied 😂

[brittle drift]

I asked AI to tell me what I should use with Umbra build. I said a backpack and chest is a must. It said I need to use it with a Grupo holster and an Overlord mask. I use a classic m1a and a Strega. It also said Baker's Dozen would be better

[wooden finch]

yes

when did they combine all the status effect talents into one?

(yes I know they buffed the single status ones)

[cerulean smelt]

think last season they added that talent?

[onyx sage]

this season

[remote sequoia]

Thanks, been a minute since I got it at the Summit. Honestly, it's one of the more rare ones I've had drop in game along side the Memento.

[cerulean smelt]

oh? thought it was last season with mb

[cerulean smelt]

sure it was memento not momento?

[remote sequoia]

I mean, sure, but that's the only solace of the April fools, I won't need to go hunting for components anytime soon

[cerulean smelt]

can you believe the nerve of some people being tired of it already? like it's a free easy exotic component why complain?

[remote sequoia]

Only time I was annoyed was April 1, but also that's when I learned I lost my job soooooooo

[wooden finch]

especially the people getting the raid/legendary exclusive ones and thinking they made them available instead of thinking something is off on april first

[charred eagle]

What’s the third attribute I should roll on the bluescreen? Currently got health dmg

[cerulean smelt]

probably depends on your build

[charred eagle]

I’m not sure what other attributes roll for the 3rd column

[charred eagle]

Was thinkin crit chance cause im gonna run it with ND

[fresh fox]

do not use AI for division 2 build advice 😭

umbra backpack is also fairly mid so don’t use that

just use a damage talent on ceska/grupo bag

[cerulean smelt]

someone here or the other server mentioned Umbra + Turmoil knees is pretty fun
not a fan of umbra honestly so i don't use it atm

[onyx sage]

my chatgpt build bro

[cerulean smelt]

that looks amazing! XD

[fresh fox]

lowkey it’s good trust

[brittle drift]

I mean I am pretty happy with umbra. It fits my play style. In and out of cover I build damage stacks and armor replenishes quickly. I love it. I only wanted to know what are the other 2 pieces of gear I should use

And I don't like turmoil. I prefer to focus on one opponent

Before umbra I tried Striker and it was shit. I am slow to build stacks for striker

[cerulean smelt]

about only use i had for it was 3 pieces of umbra, ninja backpack and 2 strikers to further increase my fire rate on oreo just for laughs

[brittle drift]

Yea the 4 pieces are nice though

[cerulean smelt]

was fun until i needed to find the nearest ammo stock...

[remote sequoia]

Going for the brand bonus there.

[brittle drift]

AI make some mistkaes though so you need to check it yourself. I use Grok

[cerulean smelt]

for me umbra is too gimmicky for my tastes. the get in cover get stacks. leave cover to use the stacks gained in cover then gain another set of stacks out of cover to take cover to use up the other stacks

[brittle drift]

I guess it depends on the play style. Maybe you have a good aim and rush at enemies

[cerulean smelt]

i don't rush enemies much

[onyx sage]

it boosts all the brands in the game and gives permanent overcharge = god mode

[brittle drift]

When I approach enemies I tend to start with a rifle and make a few quick headshots. Then they start rushing at me and i switch to AR

Still new to this game. Man I only play on Hard right now lol

[cerulean smelt]

even after most rifles has been turned auto i still don't use them

[bright raptor]

you would have had no idea of the issues if you hadn't posted here

[onyx sage]

to go up to higher difficulties it's all about getting high damage and have good awareness. then the playstyle is based on your build, though keep in mind that the content dictates how you play so you can't always rush in some content whereas you have content that forces you to rush to be consistent

and yeah AI will not know all the tiny nuances in this game that will make or break a build

ask it to explain the damage formula in this game and you can compare it to a few good sources to see how it fails instantly

[remote sequoia]

If you really want to break your brain, look at some people's PVP builds.

[fresh fox]

AI doesn’t know this game i’m afraid

not yet 😨

[cerulean smelt]

think i remember seeing one that had all 1 piece bonuses all armor core and i was baffled by the looks of it

[onyx sage]

we gotta gatekeep it

[remote sequoia]

I have a build like that, it's all named pieces which gives you an attritube that you wouldn't normally have like armor damage or weapon damage.

Not all armor

[cerulean smelt]

fox's, contractor's and hollowman?

[remote sequoia]

That and toss in everyday carry, and either liquid engineer or matador. But matodor I'd swap out and maybe go for something with intimidate.

[fresh fox]

comptongpt finished soon 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫

[cerulean smelt]

hmm, wonder if those videos i've seen lately about a new division 2 build tool has a gpt added to it

[remote sequoia]

Also to be fair, there's effectively two PVP modes, some stuff you'd do in the DZ don't make sense in Conflict.

[cerulean smelt]

nods i can imagine i don't pvp in general so i wouldn't know

just read from here or other server that big horn seems to be one of the main gotos for pvping

[remote sequoia]

Honestly, for me in the DZ, I go in for the exotic components. I am really not there to PVP. So mine are more built towards evading and killing NPCs

Well in PVP there's always at least a dozen more players that have your number, and sometimes you're unfortunate to meet all them.

[cerulean smelt]

about only reasons i'd want to hit up DZ is for say System Corruption or Yahl pieces beyond that i don't think i really need to go in there honestly XD

[brittle drift]

Yea I was just playing with AI while away from PC. I have a little knowledge about builds in this game. I got advice from this discord to use Umbra and I like it so far. There is a lot to learn in this game

[brittle drift]

Sounds like getting more experience by spending more time playing. Still learning here. Have not even tried the expertise thing

[onyx sage]

expertise certainly helps, but is not required at all to clear anything. and yeah experience is the bulk of your success in this game

you can run completely shit builds and still clear by having enough experience alone

[remote sequoia]

Honestly, best way for Sys Corruption is just buy lots of past season caches.

[brittle drift]

@onyx sage so what do you usually do in this game. Strongholds? Summit? Or maybe some other things. I only like to play solo

[onyx sage]

it really varies per person. i reeeeaallly like running legendaries solo and grouped, some others like running raids and incursion

i'm also mostly a solo player but i run grouped content sometimes, it's fun both ways for me

[brittle drift]

Oh man. Legendaries. I guess that is the difficulty. I tried summit on challenging and got killed on the floor 9

[onyx sage]

descent is also a really hard game mode you can do solo or grouped

[brittle drift]

What mouse sensitivity you guys use. I keep lowereing it

[onyx sage]

i use 25 25 400 dpi

25 is in game sens

[brittle drift]

I think mine is 4 on 1600dpi

Still too high

[onyx sage]

but find the settings you like tbh, just like everything in this game you have to find your groove

i use low dpi to basically train myself to do more arm aim

[brittle drift]

Right. I try to only use my wrist

Afaik the lower sens the bettet precision. At least in games I played years ago

[cerulean smelt]

it's possible but at this point way too many seasonal gears to filter through honestly

feels like it'd be 1 in 60+ something maybe 70+ something for 6 pieces of gear

[remote sequoia]

That's how I got mine together last season.

[cerulean smelt]

lucky you, i feel i tend to get a bunch of other things i can get normally through countdown/summit/open world more than anything else

[remote sequoia]

I mean, I also was able to get the Custom Kard. But yeah, it was lucky. But, I don't think I've seen Sys Cor drop in the DZ, though to be fair, I don't live there.

[fresh fox]

i’ve seen a single drop from a chest while farming exo comes

plenty of yaahl though so that’s good

but you can craft like all the pieces you would ever need 🤫🤫

[cerulean smelt]

from what i read think it's the DZ/Conflict caches that gives you a chance at getting system corruption
DZ obviously will probably never have Yahl/Sys Corruption as targeted loot

[glossy scarab]

is system corruption even worth the stash space?

i never got the hang of it to the point where it provided any benefit so its probably just a knowledge issue

[cerulean smelt]

probably not honestly, but there are times i'm like wish i kept a set XD

[hexed steppe]

No.
Sys cor drops frequently from legacy season caches if you really want a set. They are available from season track and for purchase through a ge vendor (stars)

[glossy scarab]

yea im mad i got rid of my all red true patriot pieces since I hear there are changes maybe coming to that set

[cerulean smelt]

probably happened already

[glossy scarab]

yeah im not paying much attention

[cerulean smelt]

this season i think? a lot of things changed

from memory i know striker pack got a nerf. used to be 1% is not 0.9%

[onyx sage]

nah nothing happened to TP yet

[glossy scarab]

yeah i know about that one. i just found out about the negotiators backpack giving an even bigger shared damage boost tho

[cerulean smelt]

like from my memory i'm still stuck on the Grupo/ceska percentages for 1 piece being pretty good that i haven't used coyotes in forever, but seeing the numbers now i'm like yeah i'm losing dps from that for whatever builds i pulled coyotes from XD

[onyx sage]

obliterate, striker backpack got nerfed, nego backpack got buffed

hsd and crit buffs from brands got nerfed

[rich lotus]

They should like

Buff nego again

Just cause why not you know

[cerulean smelt]

10% isn't enough of a buff?

[rich lotus]

😃

They should make it 25 because.. yeah 😎

[onyx sage]

they should make it uhhhh... *reverse calcs from boss hp* 43%

for no particular reason of course

[cerulean smelt]

they should've made it so when you damage one, it heals the others marked (> <)

[rich lotus]

I mean really just remove the crit requirement altogether

Make it a no crit requirement but still transfer damage as if it was a crit 😁

[onyx sage]

so true

to balance it only enable this buff in raids

for no particular reason of course

[rich lotus]

YES!!

Also put armor plating on EVERY enemy

[onyx sage]

monkeys paw triggered: every enemy has an explosive weakpoint besides the head

f u if you're too close to them

black tusk grenadier moment

[rich lotus]

nah screw that guy

[cerulean smelt]

next seasons modifiers. they explode when they're close to you. set you on fire, confuse, discrupt, poison, bleed and riot foams you all at once? (> <)

[rich lotus]

ragdoll black tusk sniper is the real enemy

gatekeeping the pouch smfh

[onyx sage]

bro spawns and decides to roll towards you

[rich lotus]

they should make razorback targetable with nego

that would be so awesome

like why not

Im gonna report that as a bug actually

like why cant I target him??? making nego useless wth

[onyx sage]

too big bro

how you going to negotiate with goliath

[cerulean smelt]

you can blame the striker set for that

striker in DH used to hit the razorback and gain/keep their stacks for add clearing

[rich lotus]

oh wow never thought about that

very cool tip

[onyx sage]

💀

[flint wave]

[regal pulsar]

Contractors gloves, fox’s prayer and Picaro’s holster how and where can I get these ?

[cerulean smelt]

fox's is Overlord Target Loot, Picaro's is Arcabuz De Brazos and Contractor's Petrov

highest chance in Countdown probably and i think you can get named caches with the countdown currency, but i'd save those for exotic caches honestly

[willow garnet]

check manufacturer, and run countdown with trageted loot.

[hazy steeple]

@regal pulsar If you can't figure out what the brand of something is, the 📌 pinned-message in this channel has a link called "spreadsheet 2", that lists everything ingame.

It's also a good place to find builds, other stat info, etc.

[hearty fractal]

Anyone got a good defense build that I can just copy

[fair dragon]

Defense builds?

Hope you don't mean a Tower Defense build.

[hazy steeple]

@hearty fractal If you want a "tank" build of sorts, something like a Heartbreaker or Hunters Fury would work well in PvE.
there's links to both in the 📌 pinned-message of this channel, just check out "spreadsheet 2", then the builds tab. All builds are viable in Heroic.

[magic pilot]

im working on adding more "tank" builds to the sheet but ive been sick all weekend

[hazy steeple]

Normally I just direct to the iKia section when it comes to "random builds that work".
Health comes before maths, take care of yourself yeah.

btw I only just noticed, the iKia section title still mentions TU16.

[tame crane]

What is a good weapon choice to the standard Striker DPS with besides Elmo's and Ouroborous? Want to switch it up a little try something new

[magic pilot]

A lot of them say old TU because that's when they were originally made but are still updated

Was thinking of changing the updated ones to "current" that way I don't change it each patch

[versed summit]

We could, but not much changes anyways so it’s nice to know when they were last updated so we can take into account what’s changed.

[versed summit]

Any decent fire rate ar works

[hazy steeple]

The thing is that it does look at first glance like that is when it was last fixed up.
Maybe a star or something next to the TU tag so people know it's "fresh".

[empty rune]

What would be a good skill build for this season? Hard wired since its pretty seeker based?

[tame crane]

Would a High End DPS build be something good to consider after running Strikers for basically my whole playtime?

[hexed steppe]

Skill Buckets™️ also double as sick buckets 🪣 , get well noob

[versed summit]

it's technically better for content where you want more upfront damage, but it's mostly not needed.

It's worth considering for variety's sake

[tame crane]

Yeah, was thinking just to have something to maybe rotate around, also, even though I probably wont use them a lot, what are some other great builds to have? Only really got a Striker DPS, 3pc Hotshot Headhunter and 4pc FI Healer Build, want to make some builds just for the sake of having them.

[hexed steppe]

ongoing directive is a good dps setup. same with nego

highend is great, but its kinda outclassed at this point ... there is a big reason striker is suggested for raids/incursion now as your basic dps set

personally, as a longtime highend runner, nego feels a lot like it in general content. just a bit of added mechanic that boosts the damage pretty high

[tame crane]

Gotcha, I will definitely check it out!

I assume the Nego setup is in the spreedsheet somwehere?

[hexed steppe]

yeah, you can basically set it the same as striker. ceska chest/nego bag

coyote or fox's prayer as off piece

glass/oblit

[tame crane]

I love my coyote hehe, so I will run it Coyote Ceska Chest and rest nego?

[hexed steppe]

yup

you want to hit close to 60% crit chance tho. i personally use fox's now but i also use m1a cqb so fox's is double useful there

[tame crane]

Gotcha, you run Oblit on your chest or Glass?

[hexed steppe]

the talent relies on damage transfer so crits chance is king. either talent. i use glass now, but oblit still works well if thats what you're comfortable with

[tame crane]

I see, been running Oblit all the time so will stick to it, thanks

[hexed steppe]

usually how i setup, its pretty flexible as long as youre hitting all the right boxes

[magic pilot]

i just HH on rotunda first try feeling like a million bucks rn

[glossy scarab]

i tried a new variation on my old perfect opportunistic/scorpio,pfe build for countdown. it has 120% optimal range on the weapons so I can hit and mark oppo on pretty much any enemy on the map and give everyone else 15% amp dmg on them. also i can just run around not caring about getting shot at all. pretty damn effective when u already got a squad full of strikers. speeds things up. i like to play the soften em up guy sometimes but i do get a good amount of kills.

[versed summit]

that optimal range is not worth it lol

[glossy scarab]

yah i wasnt sure but i gave it a shot

i'll go back to coyotes mask and whatever chest. grupo probably

[hexed steppe]

with a solid team you may not need all the pfe, something like foam eclipse +setup/scorpio performs really well in groups

at a minimum i would put sledgehammer on the kard. you got the good nades for it already

[glossy scarab]

good call. i threw a couple nades at the heli drops and was kicking myself about not using sledge

not that it was at all necessary. but still a missed opportunity

[hexed steppe]

i use a hazpro ep setup when i cd. same purpose tho, team buff/cc. immunity can be a beautiful thing 😉

[glossy scarab]

yeah. countdown is a walk in the park that way

[hexed steppe]

-# typing skills can also be a beautiful thing... if i had any 🤦‍♂️

[worldly laurel]

Okay, I maybe have played like 20 rounds of conflict back at launch. Anyone got any shooty builds they like?

[honest moss]

I have a theory crafted build/setup based on last season that i have updated the notes on. My main thing is i am unsure how to math out the specific boosts in what order to get my possible number on hit and also what the boost from achillies actually is as i can't seem to find a number. Anyone have any advice on this and in what order i add damage bonuses in? I.e TWD, Amplified damage, ect. Anything is much appreciated.

Or could i share my notes here? Unsure. Apologies.

[fair dragon]

@honest moss

[honest moss]

Thank you so much!!

[honest moss]

Calculated total: 1,271,775,414.2493 (Headshot, critical, achillies, point blank modifiers, all buffs) is what i got assuming i did it right. Also assumed achillies is a 1.5x but going off what i remember number wise this makes sense. My old number i thought was possible was a 1.1-1.2B range.

With my sub optimal build i was able to hit 600-800M last season, so this would be the maxed out version with all the extra sprinkles.

[subtle bluff]

What's the build?

Are you saying you're HS, gonna Crit on a achillie shot?

[subtle bluff]

The range maxs out.

[subtle bluff]

There's an easier way to calculate an Achilles shot.

[steep plover]

What’s the best way to get 5:11 deathgrip gloves named?

[cerulean smelt]

named caches honestly

[steep plover]

Ok is it worth farming at all too?

[cerulean smelt]

shrugs think if i have a pair it's just sitting in the stash for me

[gentle lichen]

Palisade is basically a better path unless you're gonna use both in conjunction

But still there are better methods of getting armor on kill without losing a glove/brand/attribute slot

[cerulean smelt]

for instance if you built a headhunter fury build with uh, forget the name of the shotgun it has armor on kill on it so you can have a 3rd attribute probably headshot damage and not sure determined can be put on it as a talent otherwise use any talent on it like preservation for extra ooomph in your armor regen

[subtle bluff]

It's not worth it only exp.

[cerulean smelt]

deathgrips i have just as a collection in case one day i want to make some kind of armor on kill build but never got around to it so it's in my stash if i have them still

[gentle lichen]

I just remember theory crafting a full on armor on kill build before ninjabike dropped. Around 80% aok?

[honest moss]

3 piece hotshot, perfect focus, the gift, 1 hadsburg. But this inflated number is with extra bonuses from other sets ect. As previously said this is a theory based off numbers and tests i did with the previous seasons modifiers and stuff. It was entirely for fun

[honest moss]

I would love to know this please 😅

[honest moss]

A critical headshot with lots of boosts yes, again it is a theory but a 45% chc is doable.

[honest moss]

I.e f.i boost, OD bullets ect.

[cerulean smelt]

sighs i don't understand people these days. 2nd time within 48 hours i get a DM about something i mentioned here or the other server

[honest moss]

But since i have the calculation order i can work out what the real numbers on my build would be ect, just did this based off notes i had.

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say that's some serious dedication there honestly

[honest moss]

My current build, no achillies ect would be roughly 30.3M no crit headshot so the main idea was to show how crazy the scaling got with the modifiers + bonuses

[subtle bluff]

it's not too hard tbf there are a few shortcuts you can do.

[cerulean smelt]

i can imagine, but for me just wanting to jump in and shoot stuff, seems like a lot of work XD

[subtle bluff]

[number you would hit without] x [1 + hsd%] x [1 + exp%]

[charred swift]

@cerulean smelt tell me what the numbers represent please

[subtle bluff]

how high you can expertise level....

Your expertise level is how high you can expertise you gear, weapons and skills.

[charred swift]

No no, I meant 71/200 and 12/417

What does these 2 say?

[honest moss]

Oh so achillies is a extra headshot modifier? Thank you so much!!

[subtle bluff]

How many things your proficent with.

[charred swift]

Cuz I just kept donating and donating and sometimes they dont increase even if I donate

[cerulean smelt]

see how that 12/417 Proficenty? means you got 12 items to level 10 by using the items or donating extra stuff to it or crunching them into materials then using thos materials to put it in the proficiency

[charred swift]

Ohh okk! And what about 71/200?

[cerulean smelt]

how much experience you need to get to the next expertise level

[charred swift]

Well, then where does the Junk I donate go?

[cerulean smelt]

so 139 experience and you'll have expertise level 4 which you can upgrade your proficient skills/weapons/gears to level 4

[patent fossil]

DZ West vendor today

[cerulean smelt]

the 12 items you have proficient doesn't leave your inventory, which you can just deconstruct to parts or go sell to vendor for ecredits

[charred swift]

I get it

And, does my global difficulty level somehow creates a difference in the control point rewards? (Other than XP)

[cerulean smelt]

the difficulty changes the level of the control points Normal=1, hard = 2, challenging =3 and heroic =4

[charred swift]

I need SHD Calibration and Field Recon Data, where do I farm these?

Control points at some point gets too monotonous, where else could I get these?

[cerulean smelt]

shrugs no clue honestly. global events comes to mind if you partake in them and use them stars on recalibration caches i think? maybe? if you got the blue prints you can craft them i believe, other place comes to mind is the watch scavenging points

[charred swift]

How do I craft these? Come again in details please😅

[cerulean smelt]

crafting bench, you've been there before right?

[charred swift]

Yeah, but I remain clueless there lol

[cerulean smelt]

try seeing if there's a youtube video explaining all that?

[fair dragon]

Obtain their respective blueprints from CP3/CP4

[cerulean smelt]

i think they wrote out "i want someone to hold my hand playing this game until i fully understand everything"

[fair dragon]

Tbf the game doesn't really explain much and leaves the player to interpret however they like. Like the expertise system: expertise rank, expertise, proficiency rank, proficiency, which is which? It's very confusing

[cerulean smelt]

am i crazy thinking we can craft the field recon data and shd calibration materials? i feel it's an option but uses so much materials to do so that it's probably just more efficient spamming control points?

[patent fossil]

yes we can craft them, generally I find scav points is the easiest way to get them though

[fair dragon]

Yeah

[cerulean smelt]

so we can get both from the watch, thought maybe only 1 of the 2 as i only usually obtain Printer Filaments XD

[fair dragon]

When you've played a lot, you'll find that the watch is a very convenient way to get materials

[cerulean smelt]

so true, still got to get myself motivated to level up a watch mule

[fair dragon]

Out of watch points? Make a new character, level to 40 and BOOM, 10000 watch points

[cerulean smelt]

oh right, the 1 and 2 ones. rarely get them as i'm trying to fill the rest and mainly printer filaments. only time i actually used watch to get them was when i had everythign else maxed and was like oh i need those 2

[fair dragon]

SHD 208? Sir, do you even play the game?

[patent fossil]

nah, everything I know I get from discord

[cerulean smelt]

me? nah only jump on to do them scouts then stop playing until new scouts open up XD

[fair dragon]

Ah

[cerulean smelt]

though i can't wait until we see something about brooklyn

have we been able to buy it yet? or think there'll be a time they'll be like "you can now preorder brooklyn!"?

ok, nothing in either steam or ubi stores for brooklyn. thought maybe it'd be one of those lexington things where if you were in the know you could preorder it XD

[restive dome]

News on the Battle for Brooklyn DLC is expected on April 23th. So keep an eye out.

[bright raptor]

not with the new resource caps, but yes if you do it often (say, to reach the new cap on both) you will run out of mats fast

[bright raptor]

The Mop's per shot damage got seriously hammered with the Six12 nerf so getting the opening kill to build stacks with is harder than it used to be

[willow hinge]

The 71 is how many Proficiency Ranks you have done out of the 200 you need to move up to the next Expertise Level, which will be 4. The 12 is how many weapons, gear pieces and skills you have maxed out Proficiency. There are 10 Ranks of Proficiency for each weapon, gear piece and skill.

[willow hinge]

When you hold down the X key when donating watch that 71/200 number, it will increase if any item gains a Proficiency Rank.

[covert meadow]

Does anyone have a bullet king build, they could verify? All i see is bluescreen deliema?

[subtle bluff]

Just use strikers.

[covert meadow]

Strikers and lmg? @subtle bluff

[patent fossil]

strikers works with any full-auto weapon, including LMGs

[covert meadow]

Ok thank you

[charred swift]

Anyone here to assist me in my loadout😅

[woeful zodiac]

I will try to help

What is the brand u have equipped?

[charred swift]

Is it somehow possible to change talents of any equipment?😅

[woeful zodiac]

Depends

Perfect talents?

No

[woeful zodiac]

It's a named item

So no

[charred swift]

Oh, one more thing, I got this kneepad (idk how or where) but this thing is maxed out even tho I didnt even touch this thing? 😐

All attributes are maxed

[woeful zodiac]

The devs gave the maxed out kneepads for the April fools day event if ur talking about Turmoil kneepads

[charred swift]

Oh yeah, turmoil it is

The talent thing reduces 50% dmg to the enemy I hit, it is kinda annoying

[woeful zodiac]

But the other 50% goes to nearby hostiles

Best for Sniper builds

[charred swift]

Yeah But takes wayyy too long to kill the enemy I actually intend to kill

[woeful zodiac]

Completely upto u if u want to use turmoil kneepads

[charred swift]

I felt tempted seeing the max attributes but the talent sucks for the way I play 🥲

[fair dragon]

Then use something else

Not all named items will automatically be best-in-slot

[thick scaffold]

Hello I just got my first ouro and have tried strikers and hunters fury but it feels a little lack luster. Am I doing something wrong?

[kindred mango]

Probably not. Try HF with Dark Winter that one is pretty fun

[cerulean smelt]

oh is that why some people are interested in that stream date? i couldn't watch the last stream they had

[vestal ibex]

Ouro got a pretty big nerf like 6 months ago and it went from why use anything else to it's still good but now other things are good again.

[thick scaffold]

Yeah that makes sense lmao. Was wondering why it felt so underwhelming compared to the videos I watched. But those videos are about a year old

[brave temple]

is the best spec for SMG the firewall cuz of the striker shield passives?

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say it depends on your skill honestly

[glossy scarab]

I usually use gunner just for the armor on kill but the firewall shield dmg boost is nice

[vestal ibex]

Best spec is kinda not a thing. Some make more sense in certain setups.

[brave temple]

i see, and what would yall recommend the next big thing if i dont have an ouroboros? and would i build smg with strikers?

[cerulean smelt]

think firewall has a mod for weapons that is a bit higher than the mods you can craft. something like a 2% higher chd?

[vestal ibex]

Weapons should have CHC on them typically.

[glossy scarab]

dark winter

[cerulean smelt]

considering striker you can't really increase your chc and chd as much really

[vestal ibex]

You almost always can.

[glossy scarab]

when i main an AR with strikers my secondary is usually dark winter with an optimal range mod and two accuracy mods. helps a lot with hitting further away targets. if I was always close up i'd just chd the whole thing but the difference is enough for me to prefer range and accuracy. the perfect killer chd is enough for me

[vestal ibex]

It's as simple as taking CHC over CHD unless it gives you double or more.

[brave temple]

hm this one can only be obtained thru DZ/named caches?

[glossy scarab]

yeah but ive gotten loads of them in named caches

got one on all 4 characters

[brave temple]

ah icic

[glossy scarab]

although if you're specifically buying named caches looking for dark winter it feels like it will never drop

[vestal ibex]

Eh tons of stuff to get in those caches anyway.

[glossy scarab]

im still hoping for a chc/chd liquid engineer that i can roll to weapon dmg. not that its noticeably better than bloodsucker on a better brand set

[thick scaffold]

Is the carbine 7 a decent AR to run for a heart breaker build?

[glossy scarab]

good enough. a higher rate of fire AR might be a little better but carb7 is fine

[cerulean smelt]

thank you! i can never remember that gun

[thick scaffold]

What are some other suggestions?

[thick scaffold]

Lmao np I never see anyone talk about it just usually the Lexington

[cerulean smelt]

Famas, police m4 SOuless mentioned f2k as well

AR wise anyways

[thick scaffold]

I’m a big fan of AR’s so I wanted to find a decent one for a heart breaker build

[glossy scarab]

famas not so great cuz no linked laser pointer

[cerulean smelt]

ah, thought it did have a slot for that, woudln't that put the f2k out of it as well?

[glossy scarab]

yup

[vestal ibex]

Yeah HB setups get a bit of different gun recommendations for that reason.

If you manage to have a lex it's great for that reason tho.

[thick scaffold]

I’m hoping they bring the Lexington back. Everyone keeps recommending I use it but I don’t have it :(

[cerulean smelt]

🤔 i do have 2, but one i put strained on it

[cerulean smelt]

a few streams back they mentioned they want to re-release it but no details of when or how
might be the same log in within these days to obtain it

[glossy scarab]

if you put strained on it you can change the talent again to whatever

[cerulean smelt]

i know, but would rather keep it strained for my 3 providence build whenever i decide to dust it off

[glossy scarab]

ah i see

doesnt cost much to switch talents back and forth though

[cerulean smelt]

depends. i haven't been playing much lately so changing that talent for 2 different builds is a lot to lose if you ask me, but if you play enough and gather materials constantly then yeah probably doesn't cost you that much

but i prefer having a dedicated gun with the proper talent on it for each build

[glossy scarab]

oh yea i know i've been there. only playing a few days a month sometimes I end up super low on materials and even in game money

[cerulean smelt]

but i don't know about lexington being that great honestly, almost feels like it's carbine 7 damage to me honestly maybe i just need to play it more to see

[vestal ibex]

It just a bit more damage after it's recent nerf.

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, remember dod showing it's 1.1% then in div 2 stream they mentioned the same number shortly after dod's stream

[prime elbow]

I have this laying around, any builds I could create that uses it?

[vestal ibex]

imo nothing.