td2-build-advice

[hexed steppe]

idk, drone controllers, grenadiers, medics are my usual priority targets

[fair dragon]

They're literal dance monkeys

[solar sable]

If I could take out one enemy in this game it would be drone controllers

[fair dragon]

I would take out Kenly graduates

[charred eagle]

Anybody use eclipse protocol? Tryin to see if it’s viable

[solar sable]

there's a CC build in the spreadsheet

[solar sable]

PvP guide in the 📌 Spreadsheet

[blazing ridge]

What’s the new gear set I heard there’s a new one but forgot the name

[solar sable]

refactor?

[blazing ridge]

Last I remembered wasn’t system corruption a gear set?

Bc I Wana use it in a build but now I don’t see it in for count down selected drops

[solar sable]

It's a DZ and legacy caches exclusive

[blazing ridge]

Oh

[frozen hull]

I don’t think it’s that sought after if a set for pvp which is what it’s intended for from what I’ve read

[thin olive]

• Pointman with Axel + System corruption.
  Pointman + System Corruption Rotation

1. Activate Pointman → 5s invulnerability
2. After 5s, activate System Corruption → 15s invulnerability
3. Total uptime: 20s invulnerability
4. 5s downtime before Pointman is ready again
5. Repeat when cooldowns reset

My question is can this be done in pvp?

[red island]

pvp stats and cd arent the same, check the difference in inventory with the option given at the bottom

also doesnt protect you from getting killed from the side

[amber rampart]

Good Afternoon guys, does anyone have a hard wired build i can use by any chance?

[versed summit]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1GN69iUrteLediJjwFtT9-MBe8HRBgyCHascJtok1Q-Y/edit?usp=drivesdk

[amber rampart]

Thank you🙏

[amber rampart]

I don't have capacitor is there any replacement?

[placid latch]

you can use In-sync on any weapon

Some named also got the perfoect version of it

[honest moss]

Test subject is a mini capacitor, Harmony is a decent rifle. Both have perfect in-sync. GL!

[patent fossil]

Capacitor is really easy to get, just head to summit and run a few challenges, can be done within 10 floors on any difficulty if you plan it well

[pure estuary]

Guys does it matter which weapon is in the primary slot or secondary slot in a build? my friend told me that my overall stats depends on the weapon in the primary slot (e.g if I mod my secondary weapon it doesn't matter) Which doesnt make sense to me because I thought the mods would apply whenever I swap to a weapon?

also should I use ouroboros or St elmos for striker build?

[shy willow]

it doesnt matter

as for ouro v Elmo it's preference

[patent fossil]

Only the stats/mods/talent on the weapon you're actually holding count (except for a couple of specific 'on swap' talents like Finisher)

[pure estuary]

ok thanks. it was weird my friend said I only inherited the primary weapon

guys is there anyway to make this faster?

[red island]

for librairy ? not really, once you completed it you wont do it again anyway

[pure estuary]

I see

oh wait if I use a stat it doesn't disappear?

so that means if my library is maxed it will always be maxed? thats dope ngl

[red island]

yes

[pure estuary]

im so dumb. I wish I did this earlier lol. I been deconstructing for years

[red island]

you should only extract perfect rolls tbh

[pure estuary]

I see okay thanks.

[onyx sage]

your friend is wrong, stats apply from the weapon in hand

that's why for fire/explosive builds people use capacitor or a shotgun because of the damage to armor those have

and you have to hold them in hand

[solar token]

i'm trying to copy a pvp build from The Spreadsheet ™️

if you're recalibrating a core attribute, that means you need to roll the exact minor attributes and talent that you want on the finished build right

[onyx sage]

yes

[solar token]

tough

[frosty fossil]

Hi all. I'm looking into an Aces Rifle build but I don't know if I should be slotting into Crit or headshot damage. All the videos I've seen kinda hand-wave it as preference.

On one hand I'd be using Artists Tool and ACES which both benefit from headshot. But it's also tougher to land and all rifles have extra Crit damage 🤷

Any ideas?

[onyx sage]

artist's tool and aces benefit from headshot in the sense that they boost different stats when you hit a headshot (rifleman boosts weapon damage, aces gives an amp faster than if you don't go for headshots). this doesn't mean going into headshot damage makes any difference

so it literally is up to your preference. personally i would go for crit since not all targets have heads

but you can crit against everything

[placid latch]

Also depend from the kind of rifle

Some isn't suited for headshot

[frosty fossil]

Thanks very much!

[spiral talon]

heard the lexington got a nerf a while back, is there a assault rifle that outperformes it now? or should i continue maxing it out?

[rich cosmos]

No

Its still the best burst dps ar

[spiral talon]

sweet, i really like ht look on it

[subtle bluff]

1% nerf.

[spiral talon]

damn, they really hit it that hard? probably unusable then

[subtle bluff]

"nerf" It was a balance F2000 has a 1% higher burst DPS now.

[pastel crane]

Yeah, the nerf is so small, that you won't lose out in using the Lexi

[spiral talon]

ah so the f2000 would be best in slot? but lexinton is sitll best because it looks the coolest 😄

[onyx sage]

i think you should test these two out before making decisions so quickly

[urban latch]

Is that accounting for the missing mod?

[onyx sage]

f2000 does have less accuracy so you wouldn't use it for faraway targets

[spiral talon]

been using the famas before lexi so im used to close rifles

[onyx sage]

famas is way more accurate

[subtle bluff]

I hate using the word best here...

[spiral talon]

nothing cant be 100% balanced, something gots to be best

[subtle bluff]

Nope

For you guys and just normal PvE doesn't matter

[onyx sage]

pretty much

[spiral talon]

for people that love min maxing it does matter

its why i like theese types of build games

[onyx sage]

well there are too many nuances

[subtle bluff]

Once you're getting to the end game content and you're trying to figure out how to clear things cleaner/quicker then we can start saying things that'll do better.

[onyx sage]

look at what speedrunners use for an example

they don't use whatever we use or deem "best" or "meta" because they are in situations that have so many nuances

so there is no "best" overall

[subtle bluff]

If nothing there are "best" for a situation

[onyx sage]

tldr just use the lexington

[spiral talon]

has there been a fun build focused around semi auto rifles since they came out with the qol making them full auto?

just vaguely been reading patch notes last couple years

[onyx sage]

you can use it with pretty much anything that doesn't require high rpm

OD, nego, full high end

aces but it's not that good

[timber dagger]

I just got the Ouroboros SMG via operation Paradise lost. Someone told me it's the highest DPS gun in the game is this true? Thanks

[subtle bluff]

for Base WD + RPM and hitting all of your shots and within it's range yes it is.

[subtle bluff]

It's not faster Full auto just you can hold and it'll fire for you.

[timber dagger]

Would it substitute an AR with visianaro mask?

[subtle bluff]

IMO try it in the range and different ranges vs me having to explain it to you.

[spiral talon]

been trying out a full red m1a classic build now and i kinda like it more than my standard striker lexington, what other rifles are fun to use?

[solar sable]

police m16 or sum like that

[spiral talon]

gonna see if i can get my hands on one and try it out then, thanks 😄

[hexed steppe]

m1a cqb is a bit more dps than classic afaik. i usually have that as my secondary on nego/striker/he/any dps

added bonus , it nets the same chc as the ar

[spiral talon]

been neglecting rifles for so long because i dont wanna spam my mouse constantly, so now i have so many more options to trty

really nice

[hexed steppe]

i think the only other rifle i use is artists tool, on an umbra build. prefer m1a over all tho tbh

[spiral talon]

i did have a non classic m1, getting on modding that one right now

lightweight m4 looks real nice too

is it always boomerang on rifles? seems like a really good trait

[hexed steppe]

for most yeah, boomerang really strong. i keep flatline variants on all agents as well

something like 1886 with determined can be used on headhunter builds . that, artists tool and stage left are the only exceptions i really make, tho i dont have a determined 1886, probably never farm one

[spiral talon]

little bit harder to control on the mnon classic m1

[hexed steppe]

you mean cqb vs classic

[spiral talon]

ya

[hexed steppe]

yeah its a little more recoil. i dont usually hold down fire, ill double tap when at range. closer ill let it rip tho

[spiral talon]

lightweight m4 were super hard to control

[hexed steppe]

i burst fire ar as well to limit ammo consumtion and keeping tighter groups

[spiral talon]

one mag on the m4 has me drag the mouse further down than my mousepads lenght 😄

[hexed steppe]

yeah, im not a fan of the non rifle rifles. they all kinda bad in my eyes

i mean that loosely , rifles/mmr/ar all rifles at the end of the day

[spiral talon]

m1a cqb seems to win out on dps over the classic in close range by quiet a lot tho, so im gonna run some missions with it and try it out

just been fiddling in the range

[hexed steppe]

yeah no doubt. i used to rock classic all te time... once i got used to cqb rof classic feels slow

my normal rifle assortment 😅

[spiral talon]

didnt ravenous get a decent buff too? that good now?

kinda unsuable if you wanna be a shield user tho

[subtle bluff]

No. You can't swap shoulder with a shield for ravenous.

#patch-notes if you're looking for exact answers.

[spiral talon]

not really looking for hard numbers, just peoples opinions

[subtle bluff]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12vzrBI53INNVcKx25ILuvwIgJDg2xUvOO_IA0uctlwE/edit?usp=sharing
For references.

[spiral talon]

yeah i did check ikeas thingy earlier

[subtle bluff]

Ravenous is still in its exact spot overall.
Why would a Shield user use Ravenous?

[spiral talon]

never said a shield user would want it

[subtle bluff]

Just curious on why you said this.

[spiral talon]

just thinking out loud, my rifle build were using a shield at the time

[frosty fossil]

Speaking of rifles: I kinda wanna try a hybrid Rifle/Skill build.

My first thought was just change a hybrid striker class over: 3pc Aces, Ninjapack, Picaro's, Brazos chest

Not sure about weapons yet. Maybe the rifle with perfect in sync and the sniper with future perfection?

[red island]

hybrids dont do damage and arent tanky

[onyx sage]

it just depends on what you want to do

what are you trying to do that a normal rifle build doesn't help you finish? imo if you're trying to make a new rifle build and the playstyle is just completely the same as a strong, well-tested rifle build, there's just no use

[frosty fossil]

It would be mostly for variety and fun. Probably wouldn't attempt legendary runs on it (the hybrid striker build I found was pretty good but that's striker)

Would still want to optimize it though

[onyx sage]

what exactly do you mean by variety and fun is my point. if the build doesn't let you do anything new then the fun only lasts for the 5 minutes you spend putting it together

[frosty fossil]

A build with decent weapon damage where I can still swap out and use skills based on what I'm doing/feel like and they'll actually be helpful.

I found a few comments about a similar build with strikers (see pic) that had a bit more survivability as well.

I really enjoyed the build so I wanted to see if I could make a similar one for rifles

[cloud raptor]

Is the best way to farm memento countdown?

[red island]

yes

[subtle bluff]

You could do a hybrid.

[red island]

yeah if i wanted to be neither tanky nor deal damage

[subtle bluff]

You could...

[red island]

dont tempt me

in reality, i'd love to make new builds to fill the spreadsheet, but lot of gear is locked behind raid that i cant do, or take 80 years to farm, which is so much pain

i dont have regulus or eb, im missing so many blueprints cause fk descent and nemesis

i wish raids or descent didnt take 80 years to complete with such a low drop rate for the prize

[languid apex]

is chill out gila mask in loot pool rn?

[subtle bluff]

use Countdown and Summit for targeted loot

[languid apex]

i am but i keep getting the nightwatcher one

[subtle bluff]

OH

that's can't build looted like that

That's a DZ or named cache only

I think

[shy willow]

Its a holiday exclusive

Drops from the loot goblin

I believe they finally patched it out till next winter

[thorny kernel]

Is Aces&Eights good for a marksman build?

[tulip charm]

Hotshot outclasses it unless you’re running svd ig

[thorny kernel]

Nah, using Mantis rn and Nemesis once BT finally decides to invade GWH

Then ill be going for Hotshot+Chainkiller+idk what exotic armor

[undone axle]

hey, does anyone have a suggestion how I can create an unlimited Oxi build?

[shy willow]

You can't

Pummel was patched and now no longer applies to chem launchers

[sullen sun]

Can you use Anarchists Cookbook on OD?

Or should I just go with Grupo?

[undone axle]

Okay thx

[glossy scarab]

i dunno if this is ideal but its been pretty good for the seekers. i could use wyvern instead of shiny monkey but i liked the idea of having 13% skill efficiency rather than just the 8% from empress. caesars guard chest resets cooldowns pretty often.

[hexed steppe]

that depends if you want to self buff, or team buff. wicked will definitely self buff, weather its perfect or on grupo. another option is setup- perfect opportunistic, which is a 15% amp from all sources, including yourself. kinda locks ya in to scorpio a bit unless you proc status with skill to get ball rolling and use a brazen shotgun to proc opp

[worn mango]

4/5 of the way on Ridgeway's in Summit and I can then stop for a bit at 90 to try this farming

Give me doubel crit grupo unbreakable or give me death

[bold leaf]

Replace the bag and it'll be much better 👍🏻

[glossy scarab]

yeah im gonna try that too

[hexed steppe]

use mortar instead of sticky, much shorter cooldown and ability to multikill often

[bold leaf]

And if you're gonna use mortar, use the china named backpack

[glossy scarab]

yup i had mortars on first and then tried stickys because i got tired of finding safe spots to hang out while i focused on mortaring

[hexed steppe]

ill have to show you how its done sometime

[glossy scarab]

yea for sure. ive never been good at it

[hexed steppe]

so im gonna be that stick in the mud that also mentions ninja and losing damage because of it, same with skilled tbh, but it makes up for the loss a bit

[glossy scarab]

i just came back after like 6-8 months and saw stash space was increased. that was a big surprise

[hexed steppe]

yeah its nice.

[glossy scarab]

yeah im gonna use the china bag with perfect shock and awe, a couple yellow grupos, and 3 empress i guess? not sure

[bold leaf]

that'll work

[hexed steppe]

how does the single roller compare to clusters

[glossy scarab]

im just trying to get thru journey stuff to unlock all the modifiers

i dunno, i wasnt sure if i was gonna get kills with clusters so i just went straight to explosive

[hexed steppe]

hardwire handy for resetting cooldown as well. like clusters every 5 seconds or so now

[glossy scarab]

yeah i gotta farm that set unfortunately

[bold leaf]

One of the seekers is straight dumb, never goes after anything and when it does they out run it

[glossy scarab]

alright i'll try clusters tomorrow. tonight i only had like 1 miss out of 5 tries

[hexed steppe]

also the possibility of stinger hive + btsu for oc and a big damage buff. if you have overdrive unlocked its really solid oc on demand

[bold leaf]

Works really well during countdown extraction too 👀

[hexed steppe]

no doubts

quick study😎

he'll be smiling on you for sure
🔥 😈 🔥

[sharp raptor]

What are some good weapons/exotics I should be looking for in Raids/Incursions?

[hexed steppe]

eagle burger, oreo, regulus project, rav

[onyx sage]

engel barrel

[versed summit]

He meant to use

I was confused too

[hexed steppe]

ah. no worries

[bold leaf]

I read it as what weapons to look for in raids, i.e. as drops

[versed summit]

Yeah

[shy willow]

Perfect wicked only increases uptime so it's a bit of a waste on golan

[sullen sun]

I’m talking about the named bag?

[shy willow]

Ye

Anarchists cookbook

Its on golan

[sullen sun]

Right, but you said it’s a waste on golan..did you mean on Ongoing?

[versed summit]

It’s just a bad bag

[shy willow]

Yeah it's just a waste full stop

[hexed steppe]

been so long, but i decided to put a crit hf together again. up in the air what spec i want to use, but leaning heavily towards tech for skilltier/artificer.
also not 100 if i want memento or matador, those Skill Buckets™️ seem to be calling my name tho.
tear it up, but give me suggestions if you do. ill probably try a few setups.

[final bobcat]

Anybody on Playstation 5 I need some people to run with PSN:Auradude2

Not new to the game finished 1&2 on XBOX but made the switch and need people to play with

[hexed steppe]

#td2-clan-recruitment or #lfg-playstation best bet for finding other agents

[versed summit]

backbone works pretty well if skipping Memento

[pure estuary]

do u guys know how I can sort my mods easily? Like I want to just keep the highest stat mod only. I've been hoarding mods in my stash in case I need it for a build I don't even know what to do with the mods that are not really maxed but I am scared to deconstruct because it might be the only one I have.

[trail shore]

can someone help me with these mask? im on xbox

[subtle bluff]

Go to your LFG channel to look for help.

[haughty kernel]

should I put skill haste on instead of repair?

using assault turret and striker drone

[pure estuary]

of course. U never need repair skills in turret and drone build. Look at the pin builds it tells u what stats to prioritise

I believe once you reach the max skill tier u can focus stats on damage and stuff. my skill build has like 10 second cooldown on drone and turret, I think maybe thats overkill since you can buffer the cooldowns with each other. but I like spamming it and the damage is still reasonable for a beginner.

[haughty kernel]

got ya,will check it out, thanks

[pure estuary]

that was my first build but I really recommend swapping to striker asap because it is so easy to grind for builds now the loot drops in countdown are insane.

[haughty kernel]

I got a striker build, but my low level friend wont play anything but status build, so we need dps and healing

so i run the new set, helped us finally beat legendary missions

[pure estuary]

ur striker build should have more dps than a drone build

turret and drone is pretty decent but I could never go back after seeing like 300k dps unstacked with striker build

[haughty kernel]

we only play duo, so i'm kinda forced into the hybrid build.

[pure estuary]

if u stack up u can easily reach millions per bullet

[haughty kernel]

if i die as striker he can't do much to revive me. and then he gets mad and quits 💀

[pure estuary]

even with duo my friend carries more with striker build. ur issue is that you are dying not the build

if u wanted to support him just go a support buidl instead

like a healing one. but if ur friend can't revive you I doubt that the majority of the damage is coming from him

turret and drone build is fun when there is 4 people running it ngl

unstoppable army until u run into EMP, it just takes alot more to min max and get good dps on as drone and turret build compared to any red build. I know cus I only beenr unning turret and drone since I started playing and swapped recently.

[haughty kernel]

turret and drone build is nice, feels like i have teammates for once

[pure estuary]

yeah. it feels nice until you do heroic solo with 4 modifiers

thats like the only time where I felt I need more damage.

[haughty kernel]

i dunno, seems to do well in legendary for me.

then again, i dont really turn the modifiers on too much, a few, but the easy ones like fog of war

[pure estuary]

idk how u getting so much dps on legendary but like i'm only getting like 200k per bullet on the drones /turrets

its easier to clear content with turret and drone build but if u get better at the game I feel like striker is so much better

like in most public parties I am slowing the game down or behind everybody cus they clear it so fast

drone and turret is easier but slower

if u get better at the game striker is alot faster

[haughty kernel]

i only ever play solo

or duo with a friend

[subtle bluff]

Drone/Turrets in Legendary honestly slows down the clear speed your DPS is so minimal vs most DPS builds.

If you’re looking for Builds and stuff if you check out the Pinned Message there’s a spreadsheet with Guides in there.

[haughty kernel]

I believe it, but its just the two of us and my friend dont do much other then a status build, rather just play it safe with the refactor build.. slow finish , but almost guarenteed.

[subtle bluff]

Idk about guaranteed clear for every leggo mission.

[haughty kernel]

not guarentee, but it became much easier to carry him.

I got a max fi build, but if i run it we lack dps, if i run just a skill build, we lack heals, if i run a striker build, i'm basically running legendary solo it feels like. i'm trying to get more friends to join in so i can run my dps builds again

[hybrid hatch]

Which variation of this looks best ?

• The Electrique BP is a Lavosier
• Knees are Grease in all
• All gear mods are Skill Haste
• Im not married to the weapons or skills, but I’d likely get rid of shock trap without Lavosier

Refactor bp has a very similar ability as Lavosier, gives bonus armor from skill damage if you’re at full armor vs give’s bonus armor from certain status effects

[subtle bluff]

Here we go with the word best again. More Context what “best” in yours words.

[hybrid hatch]

Most effective in combat, I guess. I play solo a lot so most survivable wouldn’t hurt

I’ve tried mostly the first setup, open world stuff. Seems decent but hasn’t really given me a good reason to use it over other stuff i feel like

I don’t think Id try it in legendary or something I consider challenging

[willow hinge]

Press G shows the number of each type, I then just click on ones that have more than two or one (depending how many I want to keep), then ESC to mark as Junk.

[sullen sun]

@hexed steppe is anyone working on a Refector build for the spreadsheet?

[hexed steppe]

Not that I'm aware of atm.

[magic pilot]

Not that I'm aware of

WTH

[hexed steppe]

Jinx

You owe me 🍻

[magic pilot]

I been around this discord so long we all type the same

[magic pilot]

Call me in for Lego

[sullen sun]

I want one and I want it meow

[magic pilot]

I was thinking about adding some build templates for the gearsets

[sullen sun]

Do you remember a guy named Chameleon Deconstructer? You look just like him

[trim wedge]

Bruh

[magic pilot]

I've heard of him

[sullen sun]

Pubes on the chin and everything

[hexed steppe]

I would build like turret drone setup. He bag talent for sure tech support, most likely chest he kinetic or glass. Leaning towards kinetic since drone/turret have long uptime

[sullen sun]

Doesn’t sound like a time consuming build

[hexed steppe]

It's not a really strong set so I wouldn't cluster/mortar/hive

[sullen sun]

I reckon devs are looking into it to probably make it better?

[hexed steppe]

I was in a leg with a guy running it and the armor was decent tho.

[sullen sun]

Seems like a good solo build

[hexed steppe]

Turret drone are constant consistent damage so seems good fornthat

[sullen sun]

For open world?

[hexed steppe]

It probably be alright. Slow tho

[magic pilot]

It's good repair just super inconsistent

[vocal dirge]

I’m looking to do a dps build I’m somewhat of a new player, I wanted to get ready to do the iron horse raid looking to learn more about this game etc

[urban latch]

A striker build will work and is a good first build, but specifically for iron horse your much better off with a high end crit build

[vocal dirge]

High end crit is definitely what I’m looking for

[urban latch]

Your heading in the right direction. You'll want to get a better chest talent and swap out memento for a vigilance backpack for the raid. From there its mostly optimizing stuff and getting correct rolls on everything

[cerulean smelt]

I'd replace the holster mask to like ceska and grupo and definitely a chest with a better talent

[red island]

whats your go to build for legendaries ?

[heavy gulch]

Okay, I have a basic Strikers build set up that's handling Challenging pretty easily. What's a good/easily put-together build to aim for next that will bring me up to Heroic?

[worn mango]

Better strikers

[heavy gulch]

Makes sense, lol. Just gotta keep doing Countdown with mask target for Coyote then

[worn mango]

Basically. At minimum have a ceska piece for the crit chance and grupo for crit damage

Strikers will carry you through anything really, it's the DPS choice since it's so plug and play

[onyx sage]

3p 5.11 with 3p murakami with health and armor regen

[worn mango]

Ugh, if your 5.11 doesn't have hazard protection what are you even doing

[onyx sage]

u right

i need the momento and the rouge momentum modifier

[worn mango]

So close to trying this L90 Summit farming

Sucks that I have to go to level 100 just to finish Ridgeways lol

[red island]

i just cant seem to win fights in legendaries

no matter what build i use, even tank, i get obliterated

[worn mango]

I was using the TechTank HB, was mincing in legendary when I used it earlier in summit

[patent fossil]

it's all about positioning

[worn mango]

On Legendary, even if you're in too short of cover, they can usually tap you in it huh?

Isn't that why a lot of people either take really high cover or side cover?

[onyx sage]

if you're using short cover, you will peek up and your hitbox is exposed

tall cover doesn't suffer from this problem, your hitbox isn't exposed if you peek correctly

both when you hug the cover and when you don't

[worn mango]

Yeah. I've never really leveraged that but I've also never purposefully gone for Legendary. I did master last season but that was it

And I've dabbled in Legendary for summit

[onyx sage]

the thing is only legendary and master really test your knowledge in this

you're not really penalized for not knowing this elsewhere

[worn mango]

And patience

[onyx sage]

but if you know this then you'll do fine pretty much anywhere, even pvp. it's good to know

[worn mango]

I struggled in PVP but only because I tried going in with all red lol

Oh to be young and ignorant

Hence why I'm trying to get this damn Grupo chest lol

[vocal dirge]

Guessing countdown is the best for farming grupo and ceska?

[worn mango]

This level 90 legendary summit is kinda crazy and you can keep repeating it

Problem is for brand set the amount of chest and backpacks you get seem so minimal. I'm always getting the other four pieces

But I'm essentially looking for a triple roll with incredibly low probabability

[onyx sage]

yes

[worn mango]

I've already learned that all the effort to get to 90 and farm there doesn't seem worth it. 5 runs and never even got a chest from 15 bosses and npcs

[bold leaf]

Why summit and not countdown?

[patent fossil]

crafting is generally best of unicorn pieces (if you have a blueprint and access to huge amounts of resources)

[worn mango]

Yeah, I do wonder if I even have a Grupo chest

There's so many things I wanna do but when blueprints are hidden behind a game mode I don't really wanna play it pains me lol

[patent fossil]

if you mean descent, that's only named item blueprints

[worn mango]

Oh really? I thought it was just everything that was once unlockable

[patent fossil]

nope, there's a list of which blueprints it gives pinned in #td2-descent

[heavy gulch]

Is there a seeker mine build? Trying to do season journey mission 4

[worn mango]

Hard Wired. 4 piece, china chest with glass cannon, btsu gloves, roll for skill damage and skill haste where you can

[subtle bluff]

What are you farming for?

[worn mango]

Unbreakable grupo double crit

[subtle bluff]

Grupo?

[worn mango]

I literally won't even play PVP, but I want it so I have it just in case

Yeah

[subtle bluff]

And you know about reconfiguring 1 stats or talent too?

[bold leaf]

I know not everyone likes Countdown but not sure why you wouldn't farm that, considering how many items drop in a run

and it's not like you're going for a unicorn piece

[worn mango]

Yeah, I wanna reroll core to armor

Trust me I have all the builds I want, I just don't dabble in PVP and I want to

[subtle bluff]

At that rate you may has well get the named version.

[bold leaf]

Ok the core reroll makes it a bit tougher

[worn mango]

Yeah but there's no fun in that. It's all passive gameplay at this point. Like right now I had no idea there were 10 gear dyes you could get from crates in the air, doing that now lol

[subtle bluff]

Farming for unicorn this early isn't worth it.

[worn mango]

Oh I'm not early lol

I'm 3764

[subtle bluff]

Tbh SHD doesn't really mean much.

[bold leaf]

Not sure I did either

[worn mango]

@bold leaf it's how you get the all black dye lol

Some nice colours actually

[subtle bluff]

I'm 6k but I don't farm much fast 1k but I have too much experience at some parts of the game.

[bold leaf]

I thought that was a from a hunter or something

[worn mango]

Nope, apparently not

[bold leaf]

Omg I can't keep track lol

[worn mango]

Just look up '10 gear dye locations' and there's a great video I just watched

[vestal ibex]

Teach me IH pls

[worn mango]

You shoot orange crates that are stuck in trees and such

[subtle bluff]

Speaking of 🐐

[violet juniper]

I think that is old old

You used to be able to get the full black gear dye from those, but you can't anymore

[worn mango]

I just did lol

[bold leaf]

That's the 'Solid - Black' one right?

[violet juniper]

yeah .

[worn mango]

There's a damn difference in black gear dye now? Man this game lol

[violet juniper]

I don't want to go through the pain of killing the new york hunters lol

[vestal ibex]

do et

[worn mango]

Yeah that's the one I got

[violet juniper]

The Washington ones were nice, the NY ones are straight up bullshit

[vestal ibex]

unalive dem fools

[worn mango]

I think I stopped at the final set of NY ones because of all the time gating crap

[violet juniper]

go here, shoot tree, go to the other side of the city, shoot tree, do it again, then shoot some paper targets in random buildings with a time limit, then some more bs

booooooringggggg

[bold leaf]

Funny seeing this gear dye video with 450 gear score and talents on every piece

[worn mango]

lol right

[vestal ibex]

The apartment window targets was such fun and interactive gameplay tho.

[violet juniper]

It's fun if you have a full group

[vestal ibex]

Everyone has friends right?

[violet juniper]

annoys me that the hunter masks from the manhunt are so much better

freedom mask and the Wright mask are by far the best for me

[bold leaf]

I like the hunter puzzles...until I mess up, get one shot and have to repeat from the start

[vestal ibex]

All the mask are bleh to me with how they look being strapped to your head like they are.

[bold leaf]

How else should a mask be affixed to your face

[violet juniper]

Suction

[vestal ibex]

Well in video games you can do it however you want.

[violet juniper]

I love the hockey mask look

[vestal ibex]

Also there are mask like face covers

[bold leaf]

I don't mind how they attach, just let me wear a hood up at the same time

[violet juniper]

Bonehead hoodie is good for that

if you use the firewall mask

[vocal dirge]

Is ceska crit chance and grupo crit damage or vise versa

[onyx sage]

ceska crit chance and grupo crit damage, yes

[tepid trout]

Did some casual dps runs to get 2 friends back on the board not a bad run

Considering we did nothing special

Here's what I ran

[vocal dirge]

For a high end crit build what’s a good chest piece?

I don’t have any good chest talents gonna have to grind for some

[bold leaf]

Obliterate is usually the go-to. Glass cannon if you don't mind the extra incoming damage.

Oh you meant actual chest piece not talent

Ceska with obliterate will fit into many builds. Named chest The Sacrifice if you want perfect glass cannon.

[bright raptor]

Spotter if you want to try the Spotter/Flatline combination, it's still pretty respectable

[onyx sage]

goat

[tepid trout]

We literally just ran 3 strikers through this

Idk if it's happening on other platforms but on Xbox legendary times are resetting so we just wanted to beat super ryos and haggis' time

[bold leaf]

I love the "we did nothing special" and then you're placed 9th xD

[onyx sage]

it happens on pc too

[tepid trout]

We ran 2 strikers 1HH and a future foamer

No regs or shotty HH

Plus my build alone can be improved

[bold leaf]

Nice one

[true oak]

hi guys i am in journey mission 3 and i finished 6 missions but i can not get the rewards any help ?

[glad heart]

Only see 5 missions completed, not 6

[true oak]

oh yea my bad i just did it thx

[fresh fox]

striker chest setup still better in incursion

wait idk why i thought that was incursion

[heavy gulch]

I have most of a Striker's build set up... I'm currently using Backfire, but get annoyed by the self bleed. Ultimately want St. Elmo, but is there any other gun that's easy to farm that I can use instead of Backfire until I get Elmo?

[red island]

lexington would be better tbh

otherwise, any assault rifle with a good talent is good enough

[onyx sage]

is chameleon good?

[red island]

Not really

It's pretty bad with a bad talent

[onyx sage]

can i use it with momento?

i play legendaries but often get carried

[red island]

You can, but it's super bad like really one of the worst exotics

I really dont understand why caméléon is so bad when they made regulus after, like wtf

[hexed steppe]

sacrum imperium is calling you with a bone to pick

line 2

[red island]

Dread edict isnt better

Fun yeah, but good ? Nah

[hexed steppe]

dread is functional

[onyx sage]

i like regulus but can't aim for head

[versed summit]

how about you actually look at a build guide pal. they'rein the pins

[red island]

Not if you fire the weapon with that accuracy and stab

No, it cant, cause it's bad

Like any gold gun is better

[hexed steppe]

cham is fine, especially when you dont have other stuff available

[onyx sage]

i used to have d50 with determined

[red island]

And caméléon accucary is insanely bad cause it's smg based

[red island]

Meanwhile I complète the mission with bullet king

[onyx sage]

@versed summit my real fan in this clip

[shy willow]

Bruh

It has one of the most loaded talents

[red island]

It's much more viable too

[versed summit]

It's funny you should say that, because I was looking through some old videos and it looks very, uh... similar.

[shy willow]

BK and cham are just meh but they're not trash anymore at least

[onyx sage]

i have no idea of what you're talking about

[hexed steppe]

Lootcifer Sacrifices, lots of them...
🔥 😈 🔥

[shy willow]

Not ninjabike

[versed summit]

you're trash @onyx sage

[onyx sage]

i love chameleon and ninjabike

first exotics i get

[onyx sage]

i only play on the weekend

[hexed steppe]

can farm legendary summit. i got all my best mods out of proficiency caches tho

[hexed steppe]

Godmode Activated

yeah that too. lots of drops in cd

dont take my name in vain

[onyx sage]

i used to have that

ooc: i used it with brazen six12 before they nerfed it

i can't, it's sacrilege

[plain girder]

Thoughts on an all reds FI with vigi for conflict?

[hexed steppe]

a quick study you are 😎

what's conflict?

[violet juniper]

All that's left is to optimize the gloves and I'm finished!

[heavy gulch]

What does "LZ" mean under drop location in the gear sheet?

[violet juniper]

Landing zone?

[solar sable]

Light Zone/Open world.

[hexed steppe]

crit or hsd? stats screen screenshot

[worn mango]

Finally got Ridgeway's to never do anything with it

[heavy gulch]

How do I get Lexington? I don't see it in the build spreadsheet under exotic/named weapons

[hexed steppe]

you cant atm

[worn mango]

Unable to get it right now. I believe they've said they're going to add it somewhere later on

[heavy gulch]

Ahh, gotcha

[worn mango]

Your next best options are FAMAS and F2000

[hexed steppe]

elmo is basically lexington without a damage talent, so also solid choice

[warm knot]

Elmo is good, but it's not Lexington. Seems like tables have turned, huh?

[worn mango]

They should have just made it an exotic that you could roll a talent on

But then you can't use an actual exotic lol

[warm knot]

Maybe because of coding/design stuff they couldn't do that...

[hexed steppe]

well , considering lex isnt available atm, elmo is a good alternative. also pairs well wtih rifles since elmo and the rifle will end up with the same crit stats

[worn mango]

I'm just going to make Ridgeway's work with a Tommy Gun

I'm surprised Ikia has a Ridgeway's build, it doesn't actually look bad

[violet juniper]

For Bighorn and my Vector

[violet juniper]

If you want Lexington but dont have it, the Police M4 is the closest you'll get

[warm knot]

I do have Lexington. It was just that "its not elmo" joke lol

[violet juniper]

I tried to balance them out

The bighorn is without buffs though, at full stacks it goes up to 305% headshot damage

[shy willow]

Ideally you don't wanna mix HSD and crit

[violet juniper]

I was trying to account for use of other weapons, and that I won't hit headshots every single time

the belstone is for Regen when I've ran out of armour kits

[heavy gulch]

What about the Chameleon, is that any good for Striker?

[tacit goblet]

If you can get the buffs yeah chameleon is stronk

but most of the time it kinda underperforms

also its a SMG pretending to be an assault rifle

is there a build specifically for XP farming in control points

[subtle bluff]

I can 100% 2nd this to everyone has a big BH fan.
But I don’t use it everywhere and rarely solo. It just really sucks against things that don’t have heads.

Chameleon is really strong if you’re able to get keep up the talents.

[onyx sage]

i love chameleon

[violet moon]

Is 3 piece HB 2 piece striker and ninjabike an alright build? Thinking 4 blues 3 reds

[subtle bluff]

I wonder how much shit I would have gotten if I used it for R island leggo speed. It would have worked I think well.

[subtle bluff]

Check out the Pinned Message 📌

[tulip charm]

Anything that runs headhunter ig

[onyx sage]

i only use determined.

[crystal sphinx]

Tryna be Dark Zone Proof … Any Tips ?

[subtle bluff]

So when I explain DZ build and what we’re trying to do.
Simply we’re trying to Kill the agent but be able to survive in a 1on1.
In one mag or so we have to be able to 100-0 the other but the then the same the other way around.

[tulip charm]

Yeah determined needs headhunter anyways 😄

[tacit goblet]

Is 52mil Damage a headshot with Nemesis good

[subtle bluff]

21mill with Healing Chem Launcher.

[onyx sage]

i don't see anything except black

[tulip charm]

Normal iirc but nemesis is mainly used to start headhunter stacks

[subtle bluff]

What do you mean?

[subtle bluff]

Weird… I see it fine and a few others I know do too.

[onyx sage]

maybe it's my discord, i'll restart it later

[true oak]

is it good or i need to do something else ?

[patent fossil]

For most content you'd be better off swapping the gloves for a ceska obliterate chest, you only really get much use out of striker chest when dealing with excessively tanky enemies like incursion bosses

Other than that it looks good

[true oak]

ok i will do that thx but what about main weapons ? it is good ? any other good ar that deal more dmg ?

[patent fossil]

It's good, you could maybe squeeze a bit more damage out of an F2000 or FAMAS with a damage talent like Strained, but the handling won't be quite as good

Bighorn hits like a truck if you can land consistent headshots but again the handling isn't great

[true oak]

what do you think about skills ?

[patent fossil]

Lots of room for choice there, use whatever you find you can use effectively

Shield and revive hive are probably the most popular, but speedrunners will often use emp sticky and decoy instead

The momentum system this season makes shield near invulnerable once you get up to top momentum tier though which lets you be a bit lazier without having to watch your health as much

[true oak]

for the stats ? is it good ?

[patent fossil]

If you swap one chd mod or roll for chc you'll get a bit more damage on average

Oh wait, you're running coyote, nvm that

Yeah it's good

[true oak]

so no edit ? everything is good ? sry i am asking too mush XD i just get back to the game yesterday and trying to do my best

[patent fossil]

Yeah that looks like a good strong build

[true oak]

okay thx for your time

[little forum]

What mod eliminates all recoil?????

[red island]

None, you can only reduce it

[patent fossil]

Stability and handling mods reduce recoil
Also if you activate the golden bullet event and get the buff that gives a huge handling boost

[true oak]

btw countdown still the best gear farming right ?

[patent fossil]

Yes

[thorny kernel]

Okay, did some buildsmithing for my mantis.

I went with a Chainkiller Chestpiece, Hotshot Mask/Gloves/Kneepads/Holster and an Airaldi backpack with bloodsucker, as well as fixer drone and decoy as my skills.

Anything i should change?

Everything is attributed to either headshot damage, weapon handling or both

[patent fossil]

Could put vigilance on backpack if you want more damage (if you use decoy effectively you don't really need the extra bonus armour)

Other than that it's pretty textbook

[thorny kernel]

Some enemies tend to ignore my decoy and still target me for some reason

[patent fossil]

Throw decoy out before shooting anyone, preferably before they even know you're there

When it's about to run out, duck back into cover and throw another

[thorny kernel]

Btw does hitting an enemy's helmet still count as a headshot?

[patent fossil]

It does for hotshot, but not for hsd bonus or headhunter

[thorny kernel]

Ah

[hexed steppe]

#ask-td2-community message

[tacit goblet]

ayyy I have that build

[little forum]

What reduces it the most???

[red island]

stability mods/handling stats

[urban latch]

Stability is recoil, accuracy is the bloom on the fire, and handling is both of those plus reload speed

[little forum]

What armour has the most damage multiplier and equipment

[shy willow]

?

[red island]

my eyes are bleeding

but its still better than the guy saying he run "the best build ever but couldnt kill keener cause devs are bad" and in the end he was running 6 piece patriot xd

[hazy steeple]

Now that's what I call a true Patriot.

[red island]

it took 30min of him ranting about keener mision and not wanting to say what his build was before finally posting him and getting mocked by everyone

[patent fossil]

I'd say striker has the biggest damage multiplier...

[warm knot]

LOL my bad I read ARMOR instead of dmg 🤦

[halcyon orchid]

6 pieces? True patriot? Oh my lord 😭

[wicked falcon]

oh my lord

[deep mulch]

this is one of my favorits

[halcyon orchid]

Little bit of this and a little bit of that ahh build 😭

[worn mango]

Jack of no trades

[wicked falcon]

im gonna convulse 💀

[red island]

yeah but the worst part was him saying it was the best build possible to get and argued if he couldnt beat keener mission thats cause devs are bad xd

he spent an hour ranting about devs being bad cause of keener fight

that was something to witness

[worn mango]

If you can't beat Keener being a True Patroit, are you even playing the game?

[halcyon orchid]

I remember having trouble with it, but this was on release. WHEN WE ALL HAD TO GET NEW GEAR. This dude is actively sabotaging himself 😭

[wicked falcon]

how much more health do rogues have in summit between heroic and legendary?

[halcyon orchid]

That’s not including the fact that Keener is one of the easiest bosses in the game

[wicked falcon]

im at f90 tryna see if i could solo from there

[magic pilot]

I don't think they spawn on legendary?

[wicked falcon]

what about f100?

[deep mulch]

basically makes 0 use of the ninjabike backpack 😄

[vestal ibex]

Pretty average NBB build tho

[halcyon orchid]

Level 5000 btw 💀

That build had to have been a joke right?

[magic pilot]

That's hunters

[halcyon orchid]

I must say I absolutely love your profile

[wicked falcon]

well that shows i don't do summit often

[worn mango]

Clearly one of the hardest

[placid latch]

Keener fight can be tricky

[halcyon orchid]

I wouldn’t blame you for it, after you beat it the first time, and get the Capacitor it’s really only good for farming exotics

[halcyon orchid]

You just gotta have good positioning

[halcyon orchid]

I’ve had more trouble fighting Saint on Grand Washington than Keener and that’s saying a lot

[placid latch]

And knowing how to avoid his skill (seeker mine and ruche) and being to play without skill

But clearly, there is harder boss

[worn mango]

Or just striker go brrrtttttt

[halcyon orchid]

I forgot he had seekers, I kill him before he can get them off. Now that you mention them though I remember being an absolute nuisance

[halcyon orchid]

Exactly what I use

Run a striker with a chatterbox and you’ll actually break the games audio in the right circumstance

[placid latch]

Any hidden hunter or level 100 summit is harder than keener

because Keener almost never use his fire arm

Not counting legendary difficulty, Raid or Incursion

[magic pilot]

Years of work

[placid latch]

or even Climax Mission on Master

[magic pilot]

But yes the f100 hunters can be done on legendary

Your best bet is using some sort of niche HHer build

I think Raucey has a video on it

https://youtu.be/Six6HkkI8jI?si=so2Hd7mBQO3Nt3sA

[wicked falcon]

man i just saw the oxidizer method

that shit broken

[magic pilot]

That's the way to go but it takes a little more setup, usually easier in a duo so you can foam them

[solar berry]

Scorpio ftw against hunters

[red island]

we need an updated tank build

there are 2 in spreadsheet only, one is from 3y ago, and the other is a broken link

[shy willow]

nothing has changed regarding tanks

no new meta or anything

[worn mango]

6 piece 5.11 tank*

[placid latch]

and I guess PFE regen is probably the best bet actually for a "tank"

[onyx sage]

i run 3p true patriot 2p cavalier ninjabike for my tank build

[red island]

we got new gear tho

[shy willow]

and its all ass

[magic pilot]

I can work on that

[shy willow]

the one tank I'd put in there is blue OD

[red island]

i mean

we got aegis, cavalier, bulwark

and new exotics, idk what they are even

[magic pilot]

That's what I was thinking

Maybe blue FI as well

[shy willow]

yeah blue FI worth a shout

[magic pilot]

There's no pfe builds either, can add a section for those

[worn mango]

Blue OD, better with firewall?

[magic pilot]

Personal preference, firewall good for team buff from shield, demo has good group buff same with survivalist

Sharpshooter is decent

[worn mango]

I think I was rocking the crossbow one on mine for the time being

[magic pilot]

Firewall will help with personal dmg a lot

[placid latch]

And Gunner give more ammo and more survivavility alone

[shy willow]

I run survivalist just for group buff and crossbow

[magic pilot]

Ammo is decent in higher lvl cotent, but you won't gain much from the AoK on full blue build. Not enough dmg

[magic pilot]

Fire nades are so good too

[placid latch]

I'm using survivaliste on my pfe build

It's all about preference

except Sharpshooter where it's a lost

[magic pilot]

^

Sharpshooter has some sleeper benefits

[shy willow]

incendiaries my beloved sledge

[onyx sage]

sharpshooter nades also are good sledge proccers

[placid latch]

yeah but a little lack luster from the other speciality imo

[magic pilot]

Bonus armor in cover, with no cooldown. Hsd for team. Flashbangs, tactician drone great. Especially this season

[placid latch]

So sad by the way that grenade are tied from the speciality

[magic pilot]

Not to mention tac-50 easily one of the best spec weapons. I'd say crossbow is a little better for support but it's not bad at all

[shy willow]

damn i thought flashbangs didnt proc sledge cuz no damage

[red island]

does overclock talent works with shield ?

[magic pilot]

They do have dmg, like 1k

[magic pilot]

No

[red island]

unlucky

[shy willow]

wtf

[magic pilot]

Only grenade that doesn't work is goo goo

Yea I use sharpshooter on incursion speed healer, flash bangs super easy to proc sledge

[shy willow]

do they detonate faster or is it just the big radius

[magic pilot]

Covers the whole stage, throw 3 of those as soon as drone is broken and you usually hit both bosses

[shy willow]

ahh

[magic pilot]

Tbh I don't remember the detonation time

[shy willow]

annoying that cooking them off is locked behind a chest talent

[hazy hull]

Current build that drops 20 million damage on a single target and regenerates on enemy kills the issue is it's heavy cover based the minute I get caught out of cover I am screwed

[vestal ibex]

This build has some major synergistic issues namely that focus requires to to stay scoped for long periods of times to get that damage and the fact that aces needs lots of shots to keep giving you cards to gain the buffs. Couple of routes you can go with this but if you like sniping and can hit heads often you should go with a chest with headhunter mostly the named chainkiller.

[hazy hull]

i'll see if I can get chainkiller

[patent fossil]

Yup, with 4pc hotshot, chainkiller and airaldi vigilance backpack you'll be blowing through enemies with snap-shots, no need to stay out of cover

[vestal ibex]

There is also a list of builds in the pinned spread sheet including a sniper setups guide and it has tons of good info.

[patent fossil]

If you want to be really lazy, put determined on the sniper, you'll hardly ever need to aim again

[vestal ibex]

Determined is the greatest cheese talent I've probably ever seen in any video game.

[placid latch]

There is still the helmet issue but should be manageable

[vestal ibex]

Yeah helmets/dogs/any HH comsuming thing is fine once you learn your options.

[vestal ibex]

Just so you know the headhunters talent is probably the strongest talent by far if you build for it correctly and understand how it works. You'll literally 1 shot 98% of all enemies.

[hazy hull]

Kk

[red island]

what is that even

[magic pilot]

Anyone got any good tank builds they want to send my way

[hexed steppe]

1 hardwire short of a classified set

[worn mango]

Unironically isn't Striker PFE great

Catharsis, improvised knee and 4 piece

[hexed steppe]

Until the red bar unloads on you

[hazy steeple]

That's when you break out your ultimate Secret Weapon.
||Lullaby.||

[worn mango]

Or I should say blue striker PFE

Forgot that I didn't actually state we weren't keeping it red lol

[onyx sage]

i only use determined

[worn mango]

Triple improvised, catharsis, ceska, badger with adrenaline rush and intimidate is pretty fun and tanky

Slap on a brazen sasg and you'll be slappin

[patent fossil]

You keep saying that but I don't think I've spotted it in your YouTube channel yet, just your regular aimbot

[onyx sage]

yeah that's determined

[worn mango]

Just determined to be better

[magic pilot]

Yes

[magic pilot]

Send the determined clip

[patent fossil]

Determined regulus

[stone thistle]

What should a legendary mission team composition look like? (I know different missions have different optimizations).

My guess: 3 DPS builds (striker, high end, heartbreak) and an eclipse protocol CC build

[patent fossil]

I'd say yes but swap HB for nego or headhunter

[onyx sage]

they could all be striker. as you said, some missions like zoo are best done with HH for some stages

[red island]

i made one with lavoisier to give armor to the team

[urban latch]

thats not a mortar build

[onyx sage]

not oxi either

[vestal ibex]

Not 1886 HH grey gear either

[onyx sage]

meta is a crutch

from my perspective nothing gained using meta anything is earned

[vestal ibex]

I was wondering if you were gonna put the entire thing lol

[magic pilot]

Send it

[onyx sage]

average player oppressed

[worn mango]

Hey, if I wanna use 2 piece hunters fury, 2 piece strikers and two improvised pieces with tommy gun let me live my life

[hazy steeple]

I bet you like the taste of lukewarm water too.

[vestal ibex]

Hey water is water and all water chads know that.

[onyx sage]

still water 💀 those who know

[worn mango]

Easier to chug lukewarm water

Hydration is hydration, no matter how we get it. Hydrohomies know

[hazy steeple]

I was going to go with "i bet you like the smell of burning hair", but this felt classier.

[worn mango]

I'm bald, jokes on you

[red island]

requires a unicorn on bag to get explosive resistance and hazard protection and then change core to armor but other than that, gives a lot of shield to the team and you can tank a lot

[worn mango]

man_bald, like me for real

[hazy steeple]

Did someone steal all the colour from your game or something?

[red island]

or as a variant when your healers arent that good :

[red island]

nah, my screen dim when not in focus, idk why

[vestal ibex]

HDR screen shots

[onyx sage]

should use focus talent on your chest

[red island]

its not a dps build

[onyx sage]

just to focus

so screen no dim

[red island]

lmao

[hazy steeple]

That's a pristine example of a joke right there.

[vestal ibex]

But yeah HDR in games includes some color info that pretty much no screenshot software captures so they look like this.

[magic pilot]

Specific in Div 2 usually

It's funny because PS5 has HDR and it doesn't mess up screenshots

[red island]

i can take normal screenshots, but it require another step to send, and im lazy

[vestal ibex]

Shift+win+s is the default snipping tool

[hazy steeple]

Cool hipsters use the older version of the program that windows never removed.

[vestal ibex]

Yeah just gotta have a software that knows what those extra bits are for colors.

[solar berry]

My pc and Xbox have hdr, and don’t mess up screenshots

[vestal ibex]

Yes because they built it all to work correctly where windows is not always up to date on new features being fully thought out. They do support HDR but the windows screenshotting programs don't support HDR on most windows versions.

[red island]

yeah, but it loses focus

[red island]

truth be told

[vestal ibex]

Well if your game is running HDR and you don't have a screenshotting program that will do HDR it's gonna look like that regardless focus or not. Trust me I struggled with capturing video for a bit but it's just easier to turn off HDR in game if you want normal looking screenshots/video.

[red island]

i didnt even know you could turn it off lol

[vestal ibex]

I mean HDR does look really good and I'd rather use it but the support just isn't there right now.

[red island]

i'll check what it looks like

[sudden fog]

why does my like builds feel really weak i just started playing again

[red island]

lot of balance chances, whats your build atm ?

[sudden fog]

was using a skill build with turret and drone but i’m getting like 3-4 hit doing heroic events

[gloomy spruce]

What are your talents and specific pieces?

Also which type of events?

[sudden fog]

using empress and hana-u corporation got unbreakable and perfect combined arms

[red island]

show us a screen of our build

also if you have no armor its normal to get oneshot

[sudden fog]

like basic public executions but i’m on heroic with directive

[gloomy spruce]

Public executions tend to still have more elites than usual.

[red island]

you have 0 armor, thats why u get oneshot, unbreakable is bad on your build, try getting another chest piece

[gloomy spruce]

If you have the modifiers on, that can cause some damage spikes when they are frenzied and are also blacklisted

[red island]

try perfectly skilled instead to have 0 downtime of your skills

[gloomy spruce]

Elites when frienzied and blacklisted are the worst

[gloomy spruce]

Its a drone/turret build, kinetic momentum would be better

[sudden fog]

hmm okay thank you guys

[red island]

yeah that too

[subtle bluff]

Skill build normally do a decent less DPS than a Weapon Base build.

[vestal ibex]

Yeah his cap will out DPS his skills on the build shown.

[hexed steppe]

You need glass chest in your life. And tech support on the bag. Combined arms is really strong, and in certain builds like mortar it really excels, but in turret drone it requires a lot of exposure .
This is what I use, you could swap the ps/2x hanna for 3 empress. Sacrifice chest(perfect glass), wyvern tech support.

This setup is geared towards high damage and 20-30% armor on kill (mop shotgun, palisades, gunner all give aok). Used for constantly topping off armor while dealing damage

A selfish version of refracture gearset

[hexed steppe]

Glass or use another build

[hexed steppe]

Doubtful

Sorry I'm just catching up, not trying to spam

[hexed steppe]

Skills pretty useful this season for momentum. Couple drone modifiers, skill kills modifier, and oc on demand with overdrive

[gloomy spruce]

The guy complained about dying too easily in 3-4 hits. He seemed to want to use drone turret.

Glass makes that problem worse and opting for something else for heroic is understandable, but not what everyone wants.

[red island]

drone and turrett wont do damage in that case

especially drone which lose los 80% of the time

[hexed steppe]

Builds are builds. The chest wasnt the problem, needing to proc the only damage talent was

Tech support + glass +actual cover use is easily achievable

Js

[gloomy spruce]

It is, but if a person is dying too easily since they are doing tasks with lots of elites during an event that makes them frenzied; telling them to use a talent that makes them die easier seems like a big ask

[red island]

i think if you get oneshot, getting glass canon wont make a different, you cant get more oneshot

[gloomy spruce]

He was getting 3-4 shot

[red island]

yeah cause there is anti oneshot protection

[gloomy spruce]

Do you guys not read what people are saying and asking for?

[red island]

nothing will change

[gloomy spruce]

Or do you all thoughtlessly regurgitate the meta without thinking?

[red island]

bruh

[hexed steppe]

I gave a full build. Which includes a bunch of aok...

[red island]

we understand mechanics

[hexed steppe]

And a bunch of damage

[red island]

if you wanna advise a build, go for it

[gloomy spruce]

I know you all understand mechanics. Do you all understand what a person is asking for?

[hexed steppe]

Alot ot times advice on skill builds breaks down to " dps is better, dont use skill"

Anything I reccomend is something I actively use

[red island]

i did, and we advised something better

[gloomy spruce]

You all know the game quite well. I am not doubting that. I am just saying that not everyone wants the optimal build.

[red island]

you cant die if you kill them first

[shy willow]

Kinetic is a serviceable alternative

Its TSD iirc so it's pretty good

[red island]

also yeah kinetic was proposed too

[gloomy spruce]

Some people want help to make their build better.

They already know an optimal build is out there, they just want their build better.

[red island]

if they want their build, then they can make it

we proposed something better, thats it

[hexed steppe]

Sure, they want functional builds.
I'm not totally knocking kinetic, but I think glass is achievable if tech support is used and not having to proc PCA every 3 seconds

That was the bigger problem than the chest tbh

3-4 shot with unbreakable ... why? Proccing pca . Any chest we suggest puts them in a harder to survive situation. Fix the problem first is my thought process.

[gloomy spruce]

PCA does require a person to stick their head out which is a hazard.

Good point.

[hexed steppe]

That's the only reason I see tbh. I love the talent, on mortar where you just need to proc right before the mortar hits

[gloomy spruce]

On mortar, I use perfect shock and awe lol

[hexed steppe]

Doesnt affect your first hit

[gloomy spruce]

No, but it effects all the others

Its a good bonus also and comes with a great brand

[hexed steppe]

At a 10% loss to an amp... unless you're running kinetic too

Mortar with 2 30% amps is just 😍

[red island]

i still need to farm thoses unicorns

to make it complete

[gloomy spruce]

Yeah, well I wasn't trying to be mean, I just get concerned people come into this channel to get a tune up on their build and then get sold on a brand new Ferrari

Ferrari's are great, but not everyone is after one at certain points in their game playthrough.

[hexed steppe]

Mortar didnt get suggested, so they got the Subaru suggestion

[red island]

also the best build still is and always will be striker no matter the content

[hexed steppe]

Safe and powerful

[gloomy spruce]

The Lamborghini of the Division 2

[onyx sage]

i only use determined

[red island]

striker isnt a lamborghini at this point, its a complete fighter jet

[worn mango]

I only use Refactor

[red island]

refractor

[shy willow]

💀😭

[fading cove]

Any good builds floating around for one shot marksmen rifles?

[hexed steppe]

But for real tho, the build suggestions are generally gonna be focused towards doing more damage and survivability through damage output. If people can use glass on a variety of dps builds I think it's a fair choice for skill where you are generally at a lot less risk. If doing open world stuff you can set skills pretty far back and let them have a bit more time to work. Kinetic is a good stepping stone to glass , but I just dont think anything compares when glass boosts the skills/nades/spec weapon/weapons

[hexed steppe]

Same old determined hotshot. Check sniper setups in the pinned spreadsheet

[pure estuary]

guys is hotshot sniper the best general purpose sniper build?

[hexed steppe]

yes. pairs with headhunter/chainkiller named chest for insane damage cap

[static shadow]

Man I swear I see some people do insane skill damage with seeker Mines and here I am barely pulling 2 million per min what's the trick. I'm using vile mask hard wire everything except electrique gloves. All with status effects and skill damage.

[hexed steppe]

basically vile and hardwire lower the top end damage. hardwire is good for spamming the clusters but you trade top end damage for the talent. you want skill damage, explosive damage, and damage to armor*
high-end skill build will have a lot more damage. capacitor ar also helps driving up the damage. this is what i use for mortar, but that can just be traded out for clusters, definitely some unicorns but itll point you in the right direction

sub in contractors if you dont have/ dont want to use btsu

grupo and china are both explosive damage

[static shadow]

If you don't mind me asking if you swapped clusters what do you get for damage

[dry crag]

can someone send me the raid tank builds and raid heal builds

[static shadow]

Yea i also never got capacitor lol

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages.
FI is for healer. There only tank needed is for last part of IH.

[hexed steppe]

ill check tomorrow for ya. but yeah cap is really good for skillbuilds in general, even better in explosive skill builds. caps talent allows you to stack 60% skill damage on top of all your other skilldamage rolls . also maxes out a 12% damage to armor, which is another multiplier. i know the mortar hits for around 10 mil when all stacked, and about 13mil when its stacked and overcharged.
cap is easy to get , you just need 5 summit challenges complete and its a guaranteed drop. it gets added to the loot pool after that as well

[static shadow]

Ok thanks

[hazy hull]

Took the advice I was given changed a few things around but debating between hotshot backpack for a miss not breaking the cycle or the bloodsucker one

[patent fossil]

The usual pick is airaldi vigilance for more damage, but if you're comfortably one shotting everything in the content you're playing then that lets you choose whatever you like

[gloomy swallow]

So i havent played in a few years, and i just got back here. Where can i find Virtuoso gear? I dont see it on the map

[patent fossil]

There's more target loot categories than spaces on the map so some are always missing, but it changes every day and you can always choose your own target loot in countdown and the summit

[true oak]

hello which one is good to build ?

[urban latch]

I wouldn't use either tbh. The chest really isn't worth using, and ninja is definitely not the way to go

[halcyon orchid]

That Ninja had me curious too

[red island]

ninja is a big nono, the 2nd sound decent, not incredible tho

[true oak]

i have this one but i was trying to make new one

[urban latch]

The set does more healing the more damage you do, so having damage talents on the chest and backpack are pretty key

Basically just take that, leave the chest and backpack, and put on the 4p

[true oak]

i see

[true oak]

that one is good enough right ?

[urban latch]

That's what a drone/turret build looks like

[true oak]

do you have good website i can take builds from ? cuz looks like yt not helping

[urban latch]

Check the Google doc pinned in this channel

[thorny kernel]

Okay so how's this? I keep swapping between Mantis and Nemesis, that's why Decoy's in there

[urban latch]

Ideally vigilance on the backpack. You've obviously got some recalibration/optimizing to do but I'm sure you already know that. If you want easy mode get yourself a high end MMR with determined. Nemesis is great, but not really ideal as a general weapon. Mantis is ok, but imo I'd rather just use a high end MMR

[magic pilot]

Rock n roll definitely not needed here

[hazy steeple]

A cqb backup is never a bad choice, for those pesky rushers.

[thorny kernel]

That's a standard ACS, plus it's my backup for those who want to sit on my lap for some reason

[shy willow]

If you need a backup weapon on a headhunter setup use an m870 or something

[hazy steeple]

ACS is not that bad of a choice, and it's easy to panic fire if they get within electro-baton range.

[magic pilot]

Just waking up

(I've been on the clock for 40 min)

Brazen will work well. Fast hands not the greatest since you (should) have no crit

Bloodsucker is good for solo heroic but Vigi definitely recommend for group play or higher difficulty

[pure estuary]

guys what backpack talent should I go for on obliterate striker setup? I'm using ceska chest and coyote mask

btw do u guys know how to get a good chest and backpack to drop? do I look for the brand or the piece? because of the talent I find it harder to get good chests or backpacks

[red island]

is it all high end ? if so vigilance is nice

if you play smg not so much

[pure estuary]

idk what u mean by high end my gear is all basically picked up off the floor and barely min maxed but somehow it feels better to play than my skill build. I am using lefty with a famas because I haven't gotten st elmos yet

[red island]

high end means all gold items

not gear set

[shy willow]

Vigilance

[red island]

you can screenshot your build and we'll tell you what you should change

[shy willow]

Though i suggest glass over oblit

[thorny kernel]

Tbh if we weren't limited to 1 exotic at a time I'd main Mantis and have Lullaby as backup to punch people in the face with lol

[pure estuary]

im following the obliterate setup but I don't have a good ceska chest yet

[red island]

its a good build so far

whats you're crit hit chance ?

[thorny kernel]

Personally id suggest going with ceska kneepads and a striker chest piece

[red island]

yeah no, dont do that

you're rarely above 100 stacks on striker

[thorny kernel]

No?

Fair enough then

[red island]

except for legendaries

[magic pilot]

Well by order of operations you are going to be using striker backpack

[red island]

yeah, in order of important, striker > the rest of your gear here

[magic pilot]

General content striker chest is overkill, but def would keep one to swap in

[pure estuary]

yeah but what talen do I need on the striker backpack?

[pure estuary]

my crit chance is 50%

[bold leaf]

It has its own gear set talent

It should say it increases each striker stack from 0.65% to 0.90%

[red island]

its decent, your build is good imo

[pure estuary]

that makes it alot easier. I just need a better chest plate tbh

its so hard to get 2/3 good stats rather than 1/2 good stats for a build

[pure estuary]

I feel like it isn't that optimised. my friend is using striker and its not optimized and he is getting million per bullet

mine is like 900k per bullet. though its hard to stack cus he is using st elmo and im not

[red island]

if you're only missing some optimization, you're fine, optimizing cost a lot and its only slight changes

also bullet damage isnt important without rpm

like ouro damage per bullet is low, but its rpm is so high it makes it very high dps

[rocky void]

I am looking to build a build, what seems like a combination of heartbreaker and Refractor.
I like my skills doing damage and but would also like mig weapons to deal a good amount also.

[red island]

you cant really have both, you need red core for your weapon to deal damage, and skill core for your skills

[bold leaf]

Your best bet for skill and weapon damage is with Capacitor

[honest moss]

If you run technician you get an extra skill tier so you could do 5 yellow cores 1 red and still be skill tier 6. Like above capacitor will be best for both but in sync is also a great two way talent.

[magic pilot]

Yea that's the thing with He chest

[honest moss]

Its risky but you could run glass cannon to also help overall damage from skills and yourself

[magic pilot]

St Elmo has lower than average dps as well that's why you only crit for 900k

[pure estuary]

I dont have St Elmo

my friend is doing 1 mil with st elmo lol.

[rocky void]

looks like i need to farm Ascent when i get back home from work den :)

[pure estuary]

I just don't want to go close range to stack because im so squishy.

and sniper builds are annoying as well cus I have to hit headshots every time

like lowkey every good build has some stacking mechanic which is so annoying

[honest moss]

If you don't have capacitor i do highly recommend getting it. Really good weapon but for a slot in "test subject" is a named pdr (same gun) with perfect in sync. Works really well too.

[red island]

hotshot sniper build let you not hit heads while oneshotting everything

[hexed steppe]

Set your build up as dps. Utilize overdrive modifier and different passives to drive up your momentum.
Utilize memento to give yourself a good but of skill attributes without really compromising the build.
I suggest heartbreaker + memento+ 1x ceska as either mask/knee/holster.
Tech class for the skilltier and linked laser.
Microwave coils critical momentum and critical recovery(iirc, crits repair armor modifier) .
Any ar/lmg/smg that takes the linked laser pointer , personal preference

Remember that overdrive is overcharge on demand. I would use a shield and 1 damage skill , or just 2 damage skills if you're fine going no shield. Could also do damage skill and artificer to buff the skill

[red island]

yeah, and remember to do that at the end of countdown on heroic, for very cool message from your team

[hexed steppe]

Nego wants a word with you in private...

[magic pilot]

But but but Nego has stacking too

[hexed steppe]

Not a major impact with it tho. Nego is doing great damage cold, and it just improves. No need to acs spam just to make damage acceptable quick

[magic pilot]

Sir, 20 crit dmg is monumental

[hexed steppe]

Oh Lootcifer, 😈

[magic pilot]

That's why st Elmo's is the best weapon

Who needs dps when you can have pretty crit stats

[hexed steppe]

I still use elmo on most builds. It still melts. I only use lex on hb because both mine are flatline.
Hell one of my hb setups uses a flatline carbine 7 and it still melts. Native stability goes a long way in making some of the lower damage options viable

If you cant tell I'm unconcerned about which weapons the recent rebalance puts at the top of the lists

[hazy steeple]

Unless the other guns were nerfed: nothing really changed about them, so I don't see a reason to throw toys out of the pram.

Heck, even Burn Out is still a damn good AR, I'm sure that's not at the top of any current list.

[halcyon orchid]

Finally someone who mentions Burn Out

Honestly I think it’s on par or even better than the Lex

[hazy steeple]

An increase in usage DPS, is still an increase in DPS.
It's like the c7: more bullets hit an enemy: it's a good way to kill stuff.

[halcyon orchid]

Indeed

I feel like that’s something that most people especially newer players don’t pay attention to, just because the DPS number is higher on one weapon doesn’t mean it’s better than the other. The amount of low levels I see only running bolt actions and double barrel shotguns is insane

[boreal ingot]

Aside from ND are there any build/set that compliment diamondback well?

[hexed steppe]

Highend. Nd fits it perfect tho, especially during golden bullet

[boreal ingot]

OFC, just asking in case there are other combo that can do as well

1 thing I hate about this gun is when it mark target behind wall and it just won't come out for me to shot them 😛

[rocky void]

Thanks for the suggestion, I will keep it in mind

[austere falcon]

can someone recommend any improvements to my build?
or maybe another build that i could go for?
or should i be grinding SHD Levels maybe?

[hexed steppe]

That's pretty standard he build. Damage chest talent prefered but this should work well as is

Any build you can clear stuff with is good for shd farming. Fastest is probably hotshot, pinned spreadsheet> sniper setups

[violet raven]

Hey. I got a ton of Forge's. What secondary attribute should I be keeping?

[red island]

none, its abad item

[violet raven]

Omf

[solar berry]

Burnout is a amazing gun

[hexed steppe]

Hsd it fits a pistol headshot setup where you use the car door. It's not bis but its serviceable in that type of role

[violet raven]

Just had them in my invi and never knew what attributes to keep so I had like ten of them just sitting around

Ty

[hexed steppe]

Donate most to expertise if not proficient

[median marsh]

Lvl 700 on shd watch I want to pvp in dark zone so I want a build for pvp but I also need a pve build to farm for the pvp build and I’m completely lost just started playin again after like 2 years someone help please

[patent fossil]

Take a look in the pinned spreadsheet, lots of build guides and a pvp guide

[median marsh]

Where’s that ?

[rich lotus]

Search Icon > Pins

Assuming on mobile

[onyx sage]

hi unc

[rich lotus]

hi

decided to check this server

is it the same meta or what

[magic pilot]

Yep

6 piece hardwired

[rich lotus]

Damn bruh it’s been 3 years can they introduce something worth running 😭

[shy willow]

💀

[rich lotus]

I swear if they reskinned Regulus and called it something different I would be sold

and remove Determined from the game

maybe rollback everyone who has used it thus far

including myself

[pure estuary]

really? I thought hotshot was u can't miss the headshot?
i was reading the build guide

btw do u guys know a build that is as easy to play as turret drone skill build? I feel like its so hard to die with that build. my other build is faster I recently got a good striker setup thats my second build ever made and its fast but I die alot easier cus I have to shoot out of cover more

[shy willow]

theyre referring to determined

[pure estuary]

the turrets and drones tend to make the ai split aggrow hich I find make it easy to solo and team combat alot more

[rich lotus]

Yeah you use Determined so you never need to hit a headshot after the first

[shy willow]

which is a gun talent

[pure estuary]

I see okay thanks

[rich lotus]

Not broken at all, completely intended

Also me 🤡

[shy willow]

I wonder how many players bothered with snipers and HH in normal gameplay before determined

[pure estuary]

bruh i replied the wrong message

[magic pilot]

Good amount

Less on console

[rich lotus]

Yeah there were quite a bit.. a lot of them were like roleplaying American Sniper or something it was kinda freaky but more tolerable than the current average sniper player

[shy willow]

weird to think back to a time where the default was aces or tips and not hotshot😭

[onyx sage]

rip tips

[rich lotus]

Tips was so goated idk why they reworked that of all things

Now it’s legit just used to gen spec ammo

[red island]

cause it was too strong

they nerfed spec weapon to the ground

cause you could just wipe the end room of every mission with 1 spec mag

and oneshot bosses

[onyx sage]

no this is way after

this is when they introduced hotshot

spec weapon nerf was way long ago

[rich lotus]

It really wasn’t “too strong”…