td2-build-advice

[dreamy valve]

will perform as well as a full red dps

[versed flame]

In the new season!build for drones!)))

[bold leaf]

5 blue core striker as good as full red? I would have to see a video because that sounds crazy

[patent fossil]

For solo, eagle bearer and memento striker with a couple of blue cores is very resilient while still doing decent damage, I run it when I'm too lazy or tired to actually play cautiously

[dreamy valve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zeOyYEs5w

[bold leaf]

Ooh thanks!

That might be the widest field of view I have ever seen in a video game

[dreamy valve]

yeah the guy plays in ultrawide

[bold leaf]

Eagle Bearer is from Dark Hours?

[patent fossil]

Yes, 10% chance from final box

[bold leaf]

Ah. I have yet to step in to a raid

[patent fossil]

recommend the GCRock discord for finding raid groups, ideally find some experienced players running their first raid of the week (it resets on tuesdays) as that increases the chance of someone getting one to share with you, if you don't get it yourself

[bold leaf]

Thanks I joined a TSW clan recently, hoping to get Regulus soon. EB will be next!

[trim wedge]

All about stacks, so many blue core haters. I put my blue cores on and still shred and out survive everyone with a smile

[wheat anchor]

Exactly

Those who often run 6 red tend to not run a shotgun to build stacks

So they will just be worse

[trim wedge]

Hard to build stacks when 3-4 bullets kills you

[bold leaf]

Well that is definitely an impressive run

[dreamy valve]

yeah, decoy is better than you would think for solo runs

[charred eagle]

So if I am running 6 blue cores… what attribute am I using, like armor, orrr?

[dreamy valve]

depends on the build and the content, but generally you can stick with CHD/CHC for full PFE. You use the blue cores to proc bonus armor from your talent sources

[hexed steppe]

Usually this is a variation of gunner and/or memento on top of striker/hunters fury/heartbreaker.

Personally I usually just run a gunner negotiators build, but also glass (use obliterate or unbreakable for more survivability)

The idea is generally survivability through superior damage output and being situationally aware of your surrounding so you dont get flanked

Anything past full red with memento (like blue core striker) is overkill on armor and means you need better tactics, not a better build. Js

I think 1 thing people miss about nego with gunner... if you're killing targets and marks, they all trigger aok from gunner 😉 .
This can be a pretty insane aok return if hitting spawns.

[dreamy valve]

just be aware that going this route with tougher content requires a much higher ceiling of awareness and performance from the player, and that sometimes even then, you will still get killed due to unavoidable circumstances

[hexed steppe]

No doubt. Usually there is a revive hive as well.
It's definitely a high risk, high reward mindset on my part.

[dreamy valve]

If youre looking to solo legendary manning or tidal basin with full dps, be prepared to be locked in and not have netflix up on the second monitor

[warm knot]

I never got to understand negotiator's. Idk at least on paper it doesn't look that good. I'm too lazy to farm for max rolls.

[hexed steppe]

Adjustments warranted for legendary. The original comment appeared to be for general use

[dreamy valve]

if its solo heroics only, yeah youll be fine, just need to get used to feeling like wet paper. After that, youll speed run

[uncut willow]

heartbreaker build is a strongh build for solo pve ? or they are better tank dps build ?

[hexed steppe]

So in a target rich environment, negotiators can easily out damage striker due to the damage transfer mechanic.
Nego is easy to farm max rolls, chances are you only need the gearset itself. Same ceska chest and coyote as striker setup. It's all crit damage rolls on the gear.
50-60% chc target just like striker... its really one of the easiest transitions if you have a striker setup. You might farm out a foxs chd for non coyote setup bit that's about it.
The talent is pretty simple.
If you crit something, it is marked. Hitting a marked npc/item transfers and crits to all other marked npc/item. This transfer can also pass to immune items if they are marked...
Transfer rate with bag is now 112%. So if you crit for 1mil, marks take 1.12mil.
With 3 marks total is 3.24mil for every crit at that damage output.
Rough example obv.

For single target damage, striker still king, so for raids/incursion it excels.

[hexed steppe]

Hb is pretty good. Use hb chest. Memento or ceska vigilance bag.
Coyote or ceska mask

[bright raptor]

also because the incursion bosses specifically cannot get Negotiator's marks to prevent creative uses of the gearset for raid boss oneshots

[hexed steppe]

They need single target damage anyways.

[warm knot]

Wait wait wait, lemme see if I get it right, you can actually "one shot" an entire room just by killing a marked target?

[uncut willow]

okay thank and u take protection or weapon dommage ?

[hexed steppe]

Weapon damage

Can use a blue core or 2 depending on preference

[bright raptor]

no, it's still pretty regular ammo consumption - you tag two reds, purples etc, tag and focus the elite and usually the first two will be dead by the time the elite is down

[uncut willow]

okay thank

[bright raptor]

the oneshotting stuff is possible with raid bosses but only works in the raids (not the incursion)

[warm knot]

Oh, I get the idea now. I'll keep an eye if I find that targeted in open world

[hexed steppe]

A little excessive. But it is used as a strategy for 1shotting some bosses.
Your basically doing damage to 3 by hitting 1.
I generally run with glas foxs and modifiers si damage can climb pretty high

[warm knot]

I'm kinda not in the mood for cd anymore.

I get it now. Thanks for clarifying

[hexed steppe]

It's like a 1 run farm. Tbf

[tame crane]

What would be the desired Attribute on exotics LMGS? Not that I am using them rn, but curious since the Core attribute is already DTTOOC

Would it be CHC or CHD?

[shy willow]

its a toss up between chc, dta, rof

[magic pilot]

ideally chc

DTA for pesti if you are building for tick dmg

if you are going full support rof is fine on bluescreen

[rapid jasper]

Question: Would a DTOC Diamonback be a good exotic for a rifle-Neg/Dil?

[bright raptor]

yes

the pinned spreadsheet even has some ideas for a Diamondback specific ND setup

[hazy harbor]

I’m running a 4 pc Heartbreakers with blue cores and a coyotes mask. I don’t have a Ceska backpack yet so I currently have a blue core Habsburg backpack equipped with Vigilance, but I’m debating switching over to the Heartbreakers backpack. Which one would be better until I find a Ceska?

[bright raptor]

the Vigilance damage increase is more useful than the minor increase in bonus armor

[hazy harbor]

Good to know, thanks for the help!

[silk pendant]

any tips for any raid builds?

[versed flame]

To assemble a hunter, and a dd build, in addition to stryker-not all RL approve of him, stacks are more difficult to assemble in a raid

[subtle bluff]

If you're new to them just bring striker or red dps. Just be able to kill an ad or 2 quickly.

[hexed steppe]

Highend red or red core striker both good for ftc raid roles

[blazing egret]

Okay took me two days to get the gear but is there anything that I'm missing or should I replace cause i really want to use Memento

[tepid trout]

Replace the whole build

Hb can't rely compete

[turbid gate]

Anyone got a good build for solo Legendary Summit, to grind Big Horn

[tepid trout]

It isn't great if you're unconfident but I run 4 nego sac and coyotes

I run that through master speeds and other legendary missions

[subtle bluff]

Don't use kingbreaker. M4, Vector 45 or G36 and aa acs12 with Brazen. Then your other offset piece should be a Ceska piece.

[blazing egret]

Is lefty okay?

[subtle bluff]

That's fine.

[blazing egret]

Cool, thanks for the tip

[turbid gate]

I’m hella dumb, what’s Nego sac lol

[cerulean smelt]

nego = Negotiator's Dilemma. got a talent that you can mark 3-5 targets and each time you crit the marked targets takes the damage too

maybe sacrifice?

[trim wedge]

People just starting to realize nego is good

[strong cave]

Nego has always been good, people just like the ease of use of strikers tho

[frozen hull]

This …

[turbid gate]

I’ll have to try nego

[strong cave]

Nego is nice in pve and pvp. Good for hurting multiple targets at once 🔥

[frozen hull]

I’ve never tried it but it always read like it would be a good build

When I first started I had a fun true patriot build but I feel like it was just good for a starter build

[deep viper]

So this build has been shredding for me in solo heroic missions and countdown grinds etc but is there anything i could do to improve it thats kingbreaker and the armor adds 20% dmg to pulse enem (i am working on the small attributes and expertise also its a reviver hive i dont need anything for skill)

[cerulean smelt]

i decided to do a true patriot + 2 arcabuz with ninja bag and forget the exotic SMG with melee damage on it and after you get a kill you get a bit of run speed added to yourself

[cerulean smelt]

i've tried what i could, but i can't even like using Heartbreaker (> <)

[deep viper]

ITS SO GOOOOD THO 😭 😭 😭

I got this to max out at 9mil dps 7.8mil without headshots

And strega even hits 5-8mil at times

[deep viper]

But if anyone with a higher iq than me got tips to improve it im all ears

[rapid jasper]

Can someone link me to the "pinned spreadsheet"?

[cerulean smelt]

this one?https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing

[strong cave]

I mean, this setup works, but you're effectively nerfing this build by not taking the Heartbreaker chest piece. Taking red cores on heartbreaker is Redundant as well, the point of heartbreaker is to gain armor and damage and have the option to face tank. I'll give you props, you used the backpack, but you'd get so much more out of using the traditional armor heartbreaker with the chest plate + memento

Rule of thumb with heartbreaker: if you're speccing more into damage than armor, you might as well just run striker

[cerulean smelt]

i'd agree to that as well. one of hte reasons i don't use heartbreaker is because striker is much better from my point of view

[strong cave]

The problem with heartbreaker is people don't wanna be locked to technician. Nor do they really read what each piece does for heartbreaker. Why would you limit yourself to only 50 stacks maximum? You get weapon damage per stack. As well as armor. You want the chest plate bc it gives 100 stacks instead of 50. The backpack gives DOUBLE your armor. The backpack and chest plate work together, they pair with each other. Memento fits well due to the bonus armor per armor core you get. Too much damage with heartbreaker, you may as well use striker. Easier to stack, better up front damage. Additionally can be ran with blue cores as well and also use ANY specialist. Heartbreaker is optimal with tech, which is redundant on its own but has niche uses too

[strong cave]

Additionally you can't exactly run any exotic on heartbreaker except maybe eagle bearer. Even then, you'll want a flatline high end weapon because it'll do better damage

[cerulean smelt]

nods probably why i don't have a hearbreaker build. stuck to technician for the pulse weapon mod and have to use kingbreaker or some other long rail weapon with flatline

[bold leaf]

I stopped with heartbreaker because once you're at max stacks any lost bonus armour can't be regained until your stacks lower. Don't know if that's changed since I last tried it, but it seemed a bit pointless.

[subtle bluff]

It's only new stacks that give you Bonus armor.

[strong cave]

Memento is a beautiful replacement to HB backpack

[deep viper]

I 100% GET THAT but if i switched for a hb chestpeice with the cores would it really still do more than the named peice i have rn with 20% pulse its meant to coarlate with it (I WILL BE TRYING OUT YOUR ADVICE ITS NOT IN VEIN), also ive been using striker for the kongest time with the correct build but i get more use out of armor and survivability than striker and im not sacrificing much damage if you get what in saying

[strong cave]

Trust me as a source on this one

[bold leaf]

Ok I never thought of Memento there hmm

[deep viper]

OHHHHH

[deep viper]

Aight aight your advice aint goin in vein ill work on it thank youuuu so much

[cerulean smelt]

i'd love the memento if it got the doctor home love and as you kill you insta collect the trophies

[strong cave]

4 PC Heartbreaker, ceska piece, memento backpack. You'll borderline never die. If you have good aim, Eagle Bearer and ACS 12 will be your weapons. Simplicity just use Lexington with Flatline or the G36 with Flatline

Specialization will be technician, reason being is solely for linked Lazer pointer

[subtle bluff]

Lexington/M4 AR or G36.

[strong cave]

Don't change any of the cores HB drops with. Just roll crits everywhere you can

[deep viper]

Aight also ive been trying to get the eagle bearer from dz cuz i aint got a raid group and its been taking forever with no luck lmfao

[bold leaf]

6x red core hb, no chest piece. got it xD

[strong cave]

You loving the G36 too? Feels like an AK and an M4 combined 😩😩

[subtle bluff]

I used it the last season but M4 is good again this season

More RPM better stack building otherwise yes.

[strong cave]

You should see my cursed hazpro status abuse class

[subtle bluff]

Bleh Hazpro

[bold leaf]

I love cursed builds

[strong cave]

Works in pvp and pve 😂😂

[subtle bluff]

I have one no will ever use

[strong cave]

You're immune to hunter pulses and skill tier 6

[strong cave]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/MzC0EYCZQNlbxgAyhW1H1YFwFZeYQRiJaHRlrbAAcE0cKiothlbq2kALPbB+0GdudOFHgDJlbNwCc-IYrZcA7CtC8oYSEjg71OuoOzhuyKQJOR1YXGE3qYYFRWXdqdFXBrQa4S5AE3NAiUkA

Local (shout-out 🔥) had a small hand in helping me determine if I should drop some status and go full hazpro or keep it 80-90 hazpro and good status. I chose full hazpro instead for dz reasons as well as PvE Countdown/Summit hunters. Any status skill can be thrown on this. LvoaC Rifle is supposed to be cooler rifle, overlord for slowing stuff down. Pistol can be Mozambique or a perpetuation Kard pistol

Best part? You could literally craft this build rn except the kneepads. I crafted this in maybe 20m??

Was instantly PvE/PvP ready. It's so cursed but it does what it needs: being annoying

[bold leaf]

That's amazing lolol

[subtle bluff]

I want six12 back

[strong cave]

Nerf to Scorpio was foul

[trim wedge]

Nego especially good in the dz rn, can kill sweats by singling out the noobs

[subtle bluff]

Ya.. Scorpio was too strong tho

[trim wedge]

Mark the sweat burn the noob all that zig zagging for what?

[strong cave]

That's what my cqb overlord build is for

Console pvp doesn't even compare to PC strafing

[trim wedge]

Most console sweats use mnk

[strong cave]

Until they touch actual PC and get mopped

Hussam the evil 😂😂

[trim wedge]

I seen that 😂 he’s trying

[strong cave]

Div is div this community is burning out. PvE content is milked to exhaustion. I've done all content there is. Pvp is where I reside

Would love to get back to PvE raids and stuff but adulting sucks

[trim wedge]

The lack of new content is sad to say the least, DH ain’t even a raid at this point with all the cheese it’s a 15min mission

[subtle bluff]

Still waiting for when i can show you what a proper incursion run is.

[strong cave]

Feb 22nd and Feb 23rd looking like real solid days 👀

Soon, trust 🔥

You'll be carrying 2 newbies and 1 dumbass

[charred eagle]

Is striker with memento somethin to invest in? I been thinkin about it and it doesn’t sound bad honestly… was gonna run a 6 blue core striker build with it

[subtle bluff]

Don't use full blue

[charred eagle]

Might tune it down to 4 or 5 but I do want that extra survivability

[trim wedge]

3 blue 3 red

perfect combo don’t need to much blue because you’re running momento and getting armour as you go

[charred eagle]

Honestly might do this

I’m not sure what was nerfed about the Scorpio but is it still viable in end game?

I’m farming for everything I need right now

[cerulean smelt]

more shots i believe

[charred eagle]

Ah that’s not too bad

[cerulean smelt]

instead of a clip to shock and amp damage. think it's several clips now?

[shy willow]

1 and some change

[hexed steppe]

Tbf, the 1 blue memento core is enough. You'll be sacrificing a little damage using it. It's a good trade, but not if you totally kill the rest of your builds damage output along with it. I wouldn't use more than 2blue total

[steady ridge]

I be running st elmo and .45 Vector with optimist, 60% chc and 137 chd and still barely hitting what be going wrong with my PvE build (providence build using perfect unbreakable)

[shy willow]

Post a picture of the build

[solar berry]

Don’t really need unbreakable in PvE. That’s for PvP mainly

[odd elk]

id do obliterate over unbreakable

[solar berry]

Fax

Obliterate is amazing on crit builds. Free dmg at no cost

Also. If your build with alot of blue cores. You’re wrong for PvE. Unless it’s a pure tank build for like bulwark

At most. 2-3 blues min. But pure dps. No blues

On striker/heartbreaker. You can mess around with it. But def not full blue cores in PvE

[steady ridge]

Ill post it in a few, not on the game currently

[steady ridge]

Its cause I get wiped by any bot in PvE

[steady ridge]

I don’t have a single blue core

[solar berry]

Use your cover and revive hive. To advantage

[steady ridge]

Will switch this over tho tryna do a 3pc providence and then coyote mask with ad rush

[odd elk]

ive seen some really good full blue high end builds on countdowns

[solar berry]

You have modifiers to help out and your prob not running sum like heroic difficulty

[shy willow]

Blues if you think about it hurt survivability because it takes 5 business days to kill anything

[solar berry]

Depends how much blues you have

On my striker. I run 3 at most.

But I also have momento/coyotes, vigi BP and obilerate chest to help on dmg

If I don’t use vigi bp and not momento. I use striker bp. So I can have more dmg per stack

[shy willow]

Tech tank isn't so bad

But yeah in the traditional sense tank builds tend to be ass outside very specific situations

[solar berry]

Tru tru

[strong cave]

Has anyone tried Umbra Memento in the dark zone per chance???

Need to know for solo reasons

[solar berry]

Not me. I use umbra for conflict or pve at most

[manic aurora]

hey what's a good/meta pvp build?

[solar berry]

If you can hit heads. Bighorn with haz pro is good.

[strong cave]

Bighorn with hazpro+ Regen is such a troll

I'm that kinda guy 😂

[solar berry]

It’s so good tho

[strong cave]

Wanna see my cursed riot regulus build?? 👀

[solar berry]

😳

For PvP or pve?

[strong cave]

Both

[solar berry]

👀

[strong cave]

Full hazpro and as much status as it can

6 ST, immune to EMP as well

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/MzC0EYCZQNlbxgAyhW1H1YFwFZeYQRiJaHRlrbAAcE0cKiothlbq2kALPbB+0GdudOFHgDJlbNwCc-IYrZcA7CtC8oYSEjg71OuoOzhuyKQJOR1YXGE3qYYFRWXdqdFXBrQa4S5AE3NAiUkA

Summit floor 100 boutt be ez pz and this build alr plagues the dz

Meant for group or solo dz police

ANY status skill works on it too. It's that versatile

[solar berry]

NB build 👀

[strong cave]

It's so cursed 😂😂

[solar berry]

People say NB is ass

[strong cave]

Could legit craft it

I crafted the build 😂😂😂

Except the kneepads

[solar berry]

That dz pc ye

[strong cave]

Correct

Make sure you strafe like a mf

[solar berry]

Can also farm them in conflict. Same loot pool

Set for exos ofc

Many people don’t know about conflict getting dz gear to this day

Can get system corruption and yahaal gear

[strong cave]

Nobody ever knows that but the best way would be to buy legacy caches since it's pve and you don't take any abuse

Then again sys Corr needs a major buff and Yaahl is only good for hazpro or pulse immunity

[solar berry]

Real

[strong cave]

💔 Sys Corr my beloved

[solar berry]

Sys need another buff

Man is still dead in the water

[strong cave]

It needs either a buff to the talent lasting 10s instead of 5 or it needs to be a 15s cooldown

Boost damage you do while having bonus armor too needs more damage

[solar berry]

Cooldown would be better if lowered

[strong cave]

It's a BURST gearset not a sustained

[solar berry]

More than now ye

It used to be good at one point in time. Now it’s that quiet kid in the corner that don’t get attention anymore in life

[strong cave]

I dislike that they removed the quick kit feature from sys corr. There should be a way we can still quick kit if we need to and still proc sys corr

And have it still count towards an actual kit

[solar berry]

Atleast bring it back but only applies half of Medkit use

[strong cave]

I still bring it out to test for cheaters. Way way way too funny dropping a decoy being pulse resistant and I run the other way, proc sys Corr and they still track exactly where I am

[solar berry]

I see them every now and then, but rare. But that’s smart asf

[strong cave]

I watch their name tag perfectly follow me

[solar berry]

Season starts this week coming up right… been playing Destiny 2 lately

[strong cave]

I have developed that method to test for cheaters. Caught one yesterday, he was running the infamous invisible Yaahl build. Can't be pulsed. That's fine, bro is running a decoy and can only use it every 20s. He was in a 4m group. Okay, fine, whatever. His builds damage came from Spotter + Vigi. He broke my armor TWICE and I mag dumped him with a FAMAS. You're telling me in 10 shots from him, I'm almost dead, but 1 FAMAS mag, he isn't dead???

[solar berry]

Bruh

[strong cave]

I'm pulse immune, even if he was running LLP, his build had 4 blues 2 reds. Vigi also got wiped too bc I shot him many times

Spotter can't be proc'd, nor flatline

Where'd his damage come from? 😂

Moment I proc'd sys Corr I watched his armor shred itself

It gets better tho: he was the only one shooting me. I ensured this

Even in moments I was being shot by multiple guys, where he barely peeked to shoot me, he still damaged me the most. How?

[strong cave]

Ew... Don't remind me. Can't wait to see silent nerfs coming in

[urban latch]

that really doesnt soud like cheating.....

[strong cave]

Ones they chose to withhold

[strong cave]

Listen to the explanation, it will make sense

[urban latch]

I read it, it doesnt dound like cheating.....

It sounds sounds like you were beat

[strong cave]

I'm pulse immune and his builds damage comes from spotter + vigi + flatline. 1.6m Armor, his the same. Why is it he's shredding me with zero damage talents active (vigi got wiped the moment I shot him) in less than a few shots but it takes me almost a whole mag to kill him? Similar armor even? Doesn't add up

I was in cover as well and stayed still to test if I'm being shot while in cover. I wasn't. Moment I peeked he hit me for big chunks. Again, he has no damage, explain that?

[turbid gate]

Cope harder

[strong cave]

I'm being perfectly followed by the same player chunking me when I drop a decoy (hides name plates). I can't be pulsed either. Also sys Corr hides nameplate for 5s. How does he know where I am 😂

[urban latch]

your not describing cheating..... your only describing being beat....

just because you dont know why you were beat doesnt mean you were beat

[strong cave]

🤦 play some dz

Or go back to speed running DUA

[turbid gate]

Why are you so upset

[solar berry]

They always do silent nerfs and buffs in every game people always find them out anyways

[urban latch]

ive done my fair share of pvp lol

[solar berry]

I don’t get why they can’t put it in patch notes tbh

[strong cave]

I'm not, simply explaining it's an obvious cheater and bro comes in with an opinion nobody asked for 😂

[solar berry]

Fifty isn’t wrong. There is ways to spot a cheater, easily than you expect

[turbid gate]

You came in with an opinion about a cheater that nobody asked for, let alone in an open server for people to discuss their opinions …..

[strong cave]

Tbf the more secretive a game company gets with its playerbase the less people put trust in it

[solar berry]

Real

But that goes for any company

[strong cave]

It was an A + B conversation before @urban latch who barely touches PVP had to pipe up and talk and then you came in and said "Cope Harder" when 100% of your pvp playerbase doesn't even strafe 😂😂 come to PC you'll see why I explained my methods

[solar berry]

Pc players is insane and deadly. Especially when it comes to DZ

[strong cave]

This ^^ and most of them cheat. Been talking with the community. Rewasd is an issue and so is actual services

There's ways to detect it and my way is one of them

[solar berry]

I thought I was good when I swapped over from console. Nope, whole different ball game. Not even just division, any game tbh

But Div, you see a direct comparison among the 2

[strong cave]

I never aim to be good. I know this game is currently shit and it's dying. I aim for fun and fairness and when a manhunt group has a cheater it's just not fun

[solar berry]

^

[strong cave]

I'm stuck with permanent nerve damage, I have a limit to how much I can play. Wrists be crazy sometimes

[solar berry]

I can play. But my intentions to play longer isn’t the same as before

People is mainly to good to keep up

Plus game is far different now than Year 1 and div1

[strong cave]

Next season I probably won't really bother with the modifiers, manhunt, any of it. Pvp is all that's left for me. The content is dead in LZ

[solar berry]

Not the same anymore

[solar berry]

It’s meh 😒 but fun to mess around with some builds

[strong cave]

Too bad they won't buff the MP7 back to where it belongs

They did that gun too dirty

Fingers crossed True Patriot gets a buff and so does sys Corr 💔😭

[solar berry]

True and trueee

I remember when TP was good. Now it’s meh 😒

Maybe be buffed back up. Or atleast for pve at most

But don’t bring back pesti TP meta again. That was Garbo asf

[strong cave]

Uh.... I kinda use pesty with TP in pvp 😂😂

When I wanna be scummy I use umbra

Now the overhauled meta this season is bighorn and Regen builds. Lots of healer builds are starting to make an entrance to metas now, surprised to see a build I made get used in the community

Dark Zone builds have narrowed down it seems like as well. You don't see much diversity anymore or weird troll builds

[mint hollow]

Could someone give me a good tank build

[lime swallow]

Hi, can you tell me a build of the eclipse protocol for the foam?

[bright raptor]

4pc Eclipse Protocol including chest, all Status Effects

1x The Courier with Status Effects, reroll core attribute to yellow

1x Electrique with Status Effects + Skill Damage

[charred eagle]

So if I’m runnin 4 piece striker, memento, would it be better to run a chest piece that has obliterate on it With it bein ceska? Or run a belstone chest piece with obliterate for the extra 1% armor regen for mementos?

[bright raptor]

Ceska

[lime swallow]

and the talent of the backpack? it is from eclipse protocol?

[bright raptor]

The Courier is the backpack

[lime swallow]

aa ok

[hazy steeple]

@obsidian haven Take that to another server, it's not allowed on this one.

[cerulean smelt]

believe perfect creeping death which applies status effects to enemies within 8ish meters?

[cerulean smelt]

finally got my provacator. thinking that with 4 aegis and maybe chillout for 58% PFE perhaps?

[subtle bluff]

Provacator sucks...

[lime crown]

I have to find gear that has that third slot unlocked, correct? I can't do anything on the piece to open it?

[solar sable]

Empty gear mod slot is for a gear Mod. Those are obtained from farming, as their own name says, Gear/Weapon Mods.
These mods are CHD, CHC, Skill DMG, Skill Haste, Hazpro, Bleed Res, etc etc.

[lime crown]

Ok. It doesn't allow me to mod it though. I have several peieces with the empty slot and I can't use the Tinker to fill it.

[solar sable]

You can add those where you edit the backpack skin

[lime crown]

Oh...my....god.

[solar sable]

It's not a Tinkering option

[solar sable]

you found it didn't ya? lol

[lime crown]

Im heading back to check. I'm going to be so mad.

[lime crown]

That was it.

[solar sable]

lmaooo it's confusing at first but you get it

[lime crown]

Yeah. I did Countdown and Summit so many times to find one that dropped that third slot. Thank you.

[solar sable]

yw

[jade fable]

These parts that i need to donate comes from bosses + last chest in raid? or somewhere else?

[bright raptor]

the raid bosses, yes

[versed flame]

From the bosses, and you need to craft a revolver, 357 policeman

[strong cave]

The bosses will drop each part you need. Make sure you craft a Police 357 Magnum Replica before you start the raid so that way once it's done you just go finish the projects and craft your regulus 🔥

If you ever need a 2nd reg, just move it off that character and rerun the raid and craft a 2nd reg

[solar sable]

you need to run ih at least 2 times if I'm not mistaken

[sturdy monolith]

What is the best build for a tank right now?

[boreal ingot]

Don't remember who suggest it, but ty to whome ever suggest me to use Shok trap it my CC build, goddamn it was so good, and almost none has immunity to it so it's always useful and eat at least 1/3 of the room

BTW between God roll with headhunter and less than god roll but perfect headhunter, which is better?

[shy willow]

Perfect headhunter ramps up much faster

[boreal ingot]

Dodge City Exotic holster Quickdraw don't proc determine?

[mint axle]

no, they kinda do the same thing on paper but differently on programming.

[boreal ingot]

Thanks ANNA

[mint axle]

bassicaly: the holster just convert body dmg to head dmg, determined converts body shot into head shot

[rich lotus]

hello what is the best dps build actually ?

it s striker build ?

[urban latch]

really depends on best for what. Given a chance to build up stacks and on single targets, yes striker is at the top

also ignoring things like 1 tapping with headhunter

[rich lotus]

best for killing mon really faster

idk if it s striker or another build

bc i don’t really like strike r

[urban latch]

There's no single answer here. Striker, headhunter builds, negotiators, hunters fury, high end, eclipse are all among the top builds

[rich lotus]

ok thank

[tame crane]

Striker is probably the easiest to get around (imo) and works so good that it is a no brainer build but yeah if you dont like it theres other options

[trim wedge]

Replica

[trim wedge]

Striker and HF both work with blue cores aswell don’t have to be all red so ide put them up top

[tame crane]

Yeah for sure, if you want more survivability yeah, but for normal use there is no real reason for blue core striker that i have 😄 I use my blue core striker for Legendary missions only really

[trim wedge]

Yep you need it for top tier gameplay and the DZ

Use my blue cores for master aswell piece of cake, 35 min run with randoms

Rn in DZ lengmo and nego are king, everyone using the iron lung for cheap kills, it’s sad but haz pro handles them

[tame crane]

Havent really touched DZ yet, really wanna get into it soon tho

[trim wedge]

Once you touch the DZ at least in my expirence you’ll delete every single pve build to fit more pvp ones 😂 so I just started a second character for pve builds entirely…never enough room

[tame crane]

I can see that happening, currently working on getting pieces for my Bighorn build since I heaerd its meta

[trim wedge]

Also if you need to level a character have a few friends take you to the DZ, ez level 40

I’ll never do WONY again

[vestal ibex]

Invaded missions OP for power leveling tho.

[solar sable]

DZ is slower than invaded or heroic Lincoln

[trim wedge]

Ehh depends on who your with, can clear landmarks in 2-4mins

Long as you get left alone, there is that factor

[vestal ibex]

If you have 3 carries it's like 20 minutes.

[trim wedge]

20 minutes for ?

[vestal ibex]

30-40

[trim wedge]

Ahh gotcha, with invaded ?

[vestal ibex]

If you have 1 carry it's like 40ish minutes.

[trim wedge]

Might try it I just know WONY takes you 4 hours and that was horrible

[solar sable]

not entirely

[tame crane]

So Invaded missions would be the preffered way if you were to be power leveled?

[trim wedge]

I tried Lincoln method you don’t even get 1 level, so is that really viable?

[vestal ibex]

As you level up it scales up the xp.

[trim wedge]

Gotcha

[vestal ibex]

So an invaded heroic 5D mission takes 6 clears usually.

[trim wedge]

when it was 2x expertise I did like 8 characters with WONY and I wanted to cry

[vestal ibex]

Just have your low level start in NY because it gets them a level and then have them come back to DC and then get invited to boss room by the carry.

[tame crane]

When I did WONY with my friend to help him, I had enough after 1 run, 8 characters? Jesus

[vestal ibex]

WONY with a carry was like 1-1.5 hours if you knew what you were doing.

[solar sable]

can confirm, last mule I made took less than 2 hours

[vestal ibex]

Now you just have to know how to do a mission quickly. DCD is by far the fastest invaded mission tho.

[tame crane]

Thoughts on the upcomming exotics? It is that MP7 right with some Shield Talent? What else is coming? And will it be of any use really?

[magic pilot]

It's all decent nothing game changing

[tame crane]

What is the last exotic that released that is actually meta/commonly used?

[versed flame]

Elmo

and Strega

[autumn elbow]

in the pvp builds listed here (https://lite.evernote.com/note/e276d9da-3885-ebd9-5354-35b77ed1c75c) would the bighorn regen build be my best option for DZ? I figure if im going to invest in a pvp build i want to invest in the current best

[magic pilot]

Depends on if you can hit headshots or not

I highly recommend making at least 4-5 pvp builds

[autumn elbow]

OH... well headshot accuracy is usually around 35-40% so not great, and i have enough slots to make 3.....what 3 would you recommend then if you dont mind sharing?

[urban latch]

35-40% would be likely* cheating levels high lol

[junior vessel]

Nah tbh 80% of div playerbase just doesn't know how to properly aim or even have a reasonable mouse sense. I hit around 40+% cause I use my sense I use since 2014 in csgo lmao

[autumn elbow]

Im just going off what i usually hit in missions in pve lol

[urban latch]

It's a thing that can be looked up lol, what's your IGN

[autumn elbow]

Fury_VI

[junior vessel]

Ketoo.YL if you meant me :D

[autumn elbow]

im not gonna be surprised if its alot lower lol im just guessing at the average

[onyx sage]

9%

[autumn elbow]

LOL so yea really bad

[vestal ibex]

Average Headshots /hour: 173 Average Bodyshots /hour: 1,884 Average Critical Hits /hour: 664 Average Weapon Hits /hour: 2,057 Weapon Hits: 1,082,449 Bodyshots: 991,447 Headshots: 91,002 Headshot Percentage: 9% Bodyshot Percentage: 91% BS to HS Ratio: 10.89 HS to BS Ratio: 1.20

[junior vessel]

But that is overall since playing and counts everything in or?

[onyx sage]

17% for you, that's very good actually

[onyx sage]

since playing yes

[autumn elbow]

so i might still be able to improve mine...i just passed SHD lvl 1000 almost 1100 so

[vestal ibex]

9% isn't bad tho.

[autumn elbow]

no?

[onyx sage]

glare at the 1%s bro

[urban latch]

Id say its roughly average

[onyx sage]

they are plenty

[junior vessel]

I'm at shd100 💀

[onyx sage]

i'm at 14% but i've done a lot of content

most of my headshots come from legendary runs and open world

for other content it's just easier running crit and shoot body + heads

[junior vessel]

My thing in pve is that I just randomly hold down lmb and aim xd I guess if I would start pvp it would get higher since I care about smacking my enemy hard and fast

[onyx sage]

and also in pve not everything has heads

most notably skill proxies

[autumn elbow]

im usually just running a crit build or a bluescreen suppression build with skills

But yea so given that hsd % what would be the best 3 pvp builds ?

[junior vessel]

Btw build related question again xd

Currently figuring out a fun build for scorpio as main weapon

Some ideas for that?

[onyx sage]

striker

[urban latch]

hunters fury

[onyx sage]

or HF

[urban latch]

Im sure you'd do fine with any top build, anything from striker to a headhunter build

[onyx sage]

^ either of us have had lots of time to practice shooting heads, you just need to go through that training period too

i wouldn't fret it if you haven't seriously been going after headshots now

[vestal ibex]

I don't even have 1%

[autumn elbow]

oh okay awesome, and yea usually headshots is the last thing on my mind because i can just burn with crits... thankyou! 🙂

[autumn elbow]

Do you happen to have that website to look that up? or is it a bot in discord? Im on the tracker.gg website for div 2 but cant find my accuracy rating

[vestal ibex]

It's a bot thing.

[magic pilot]

There is a discord for it but I think the links are private

[subtle bluff]

Oxy hits are op.

[charred eagle]

Does Scorpio get striker stacks fast or nah?

[cerulean smelt]

each pellets builds up the stacks so yes, but the gun fires slow so it'd be awhile XD

[charred eagle]

Ok, but gunner specialization should increase fire rate no?

[cerulean smelt]

don't think so honestly? it's perk is regenerating ammo periodically and like every 3rd reload = a bit faster reload?

[charred eagle]

Yea, you get a 5% rate of fire increase for 5 seconds after a kill

[magic pilot]

It helps but it's not a lot

[cerulean smelt]

was going to say, i'm probably always reloading and not experiencing the rof increase

[solar token]

on a red crit build do y'all reckon fox's prayer is still worth it if i never use rifles (because i am bad at the game)?

[magic pilot]

I notice the 3rd faster reload more than the rof

[magic pilot]

Yes

If you are talking high end

[solar token]

yes

over something like grupo?

[dreamy valve]

Post your loadout let’s take a look at what you have

[magic pilot]

^

[solar token]

all minor attributes are chc and chd, all mod slots are chd

not fully optimized, still working on that

[cerulean smelt]

pretty solid i'd say. for me i don't like coyotes and would rather have Grupo, but that's just me XD

[steady copper]

better off using acs-12 or one of the named variants

[winged prism]

lefty is a rly good option for strikers

granted the BIS just kinda gets used way more often but lefty is still fun

[solar berry]

Lefty is my top fav. Talent and fastest auto shotgun

[merry basalt]

Okay so here's my idea, I want a strikers hybrid dps build with capacitor, and I also want suriviability. Should I roll 3 for skill tier a 3 for armor, OR should I say screw it and roll 4 skill tier and 2 armor and run technician tree for 5 total and have around 1 mill armor

I'm brainstorming this rn

[cerulean smelt]

pretty sure a build is out there for it

[merry basalt]

I don't wanna rely on someone else's build, playing with someone else's build could be a WAY different play style than mine

[cerulean smelt]

well, it'd probably give you an idea which way you want to run

[merry basalt]

Like I don't fw armor regeneration bighorn. I tried it and it doesn't fit my playstyle

I'm thinking 3 piece skill tier 3 piece armor with crit chance and crit damage on the pieces

Cause I still want the bag, and run either obliterate or unbreakable on the chest

[cerulean smelt]

even though bag is .9% now?

[merry basalt]

Still builds quick with a acs

Doesn't matter that bag helps especially in pvp

Faster the stacks the faster I can fight

[cerulean smelt]

oh for pvp?

[bold leaf]

The stacks go up the same speed, bag or not

[merry basalt]

Trynna build off meta

[strong cave]

Problem with division is diversifying builds too much makes it that much more terrible. Mediocre at everything. If you want a solid hybrid with damage and survivability, go 4 PC striker + memento. For pvp, go matador backpack and unbreakable chest plate. Preferred ceska.

4 PC strikers again for the pvp build

[merry basalt]

Momento isn't really good for pvp

[strong cave]

Ouroboros or Chatterbox are good options for CQB striker pvp fights. For all around best setup use Eagle Bearer

[merry basalt]

To much of a build up and you have to rely on trophies

[strong cave]

Define "pvp". Conflict or dark zone???

[cerulean smelt]

yet you're using a build up striker build (> <)

[merry basalt]

Mandator is good but you have to run intimidate and I still think obliterate or unbreakable are better

[bold leaf]

That's why they suggested matador for pvp

[strong cave]

^ this

Sorry to say but using off meta will result in you kissing the ground in pvp. Off meta doesn't work. The metas are what does the most DPS in the shortest possible time, which is what is most efficient

Again, please define what pvp content you'll be playing. Conflict is ass, dz is where the true pvp is

[merry basalt]

Dz

[strong cave]

Okay so yes, dz, memento is hella viable

[cerulean smelt]

give you survivability + the other stuff that'd probably increase your damage for both capacitor and whatever skills you plan on using

[strong cave]

4 PC strikers, ceska chest with oblit or unbreakable, memento backpack. Eagle Bearer for primary. Proc a headshot, get 3 kills, you'll never die

[merry basalt]

Idk I just don't like the memento just because of the perk of having to pick up the trophies

[strong cave]

It's a nasty solo build. I went manhunt 7 solo with it

[cerulean smelt]

if only they'd give the memento the Doctor Home love with trophies

[strong cave]

DZ you always wanna stay moving. If you don't, people like me will flag and kill you like easy prey

[strong cave]

Real

[cerulean smelt]

people said "it'd make it too powerful then" i'm like uh how?

[strong cave]

Right now with the way this game sits, strikers or Umbra is the meta overall for damage. Everything in this game that is damage is stacked. Gearsets, high end, everything. Only exception is vigilance and glass cannon

[cerulean smelt]

anytime i use Memento i'm collecting trophies after the fight. try to during and i almost die 99.9% of the time XD

[strong cave]

Pvp?

[cerulean smelt]

PvE for me

i'd imagine the same PvP

[strong cave]

Skill issue for sure. Was gonna say, if you're dying in dz with memento farming landmarks, that's an awareness issue. Memento is the crutch for all solo players in both content of this game

The two strongest memento builds I run in pvp is striker or sys corr

[cerulean smelt]

👀 i can only imagine full memento and Sys Corruption bonus armor looking tiny on your screen (> <)

[strong cave]

I've been doing some testing with Umbra Memento. Feels absolutely weird to play. Get cover stacks, shoot people and pick up trophies, ah crap gotta get stacks again, back to killing, repeat cycle

[strong cave]

You could legit scan me for 75% off your next purchase at McDonalds

[cerulean smelt]

i was honestly excited for Umbra but as i tried it out i was like ehhhhhh?

[strong cave]

Umbra HITS. It's a solid gearset for all content in this game. I'd rate it A tier because it's only downside is the required umbra chest plate. Stacks is damage, and umbra chest gives damage. It's a must

[bold leaf]

That's basically my reaction to all gear sets

[strong cave]

Strikers, you don't want the chest except legendary

In pvp you want as much survivability but able to dish damage too

[cerulean smelt]

you get to try the new Refactor in the PTS a couple weekends ago?

[strong cave]

If you want, first chance I get, I'll post a screenshot of what it would look like with all bonuses active 😂

[cerulean smelt]

don't have to, just picturing it makes me laugh

[bold leaf]

I did! Fun set but honestly I'm hoping other people pick it up so I don't have to change anything 👀

[cerulean smelt]

think i might've tried a SyS Corruption + memento PvE build just to try something

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i only did the status effects one and was impressed

but i only used it in the targeting range so who knows

[bold leaf]

I did some legendaries, 3x refactors and 1x future. We pretty much just stood out in the open watching our skills do everything and not dying xD

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i'd set those AOE targets on fire and hit the "hurt self" button and watched maybe 1/4 of the armor disappear and fill back up while the targets burned

[merry basalt]

The only issue with that is that my squad doesn't farm we exclusively pvp really. Hence why memento wouldn't really work for me, I'd say mandator would be a better pick

[bold leaf]

That modifier in the new season that burns targets that are pulsed - some good potential there

[merry basalt]

People farming in the dz should only do chests, either than that why farm in the dz

[cerulean smelt]

i didn't mess with those. wasn't a fan of modifiers

[merry basalt]

That's what countdown is for

[strong cave]

Raid exotics

[bold leaf]

lol what

Why can't people play the way they want

[strong cave]

I stole rav on Xmas lol

Poor guy 😭😂

[merry basalt]

Having the fantasy of seeing not even a 1% drop, dropping

[strong cave]

One day

🙏

[merry basalt]

It'll never happen with those odds, I'd rather open cs2 cases and having better odds getting a knife

[strong cave]

Every player worth their salt and community knowledge would know that by joining the GC Rock discord server, you have a 100% chance of eventually getting your raid exotics when you LFG for raids

[merry basalt]

Already did

💀

[strong cave]

So why farm for such rare loot in dz? Because if you get it to drop, the adrenaline skyrockets. It can be stolen by ANYONE. Isn't that alone worth it?

[merry basalt]

Got my ravenous on my first go on iron horse

[strong cave]

It's the experience, never the reward

[merry basalt]

Bro I could care less if I lost a rare drop, if anything I'd record myself dismantling it for dz resources to piss off the reddit

💀

[strong cave]

I'd rather call out in DZ chat I just got Eagle Bearer to drop, and have the entire server hunting me down for it. I'd record it and throw it on YouTube, share it everywhere, get views, get paid by YouTube, blow up, never work another job again in my life

But that's too generous thinking tho

[merry basalt]

Yeah gl with that

💀

Anyhow I'm prob going to come up with my own build with skill tiers with strikers and tweak it around a little, the capacitor itself already does a ton of damage so I'm thinking centurion scabbard or catharsis, 4 piece strikers and prob either a chest with obliterate or a bag with adrenaline rush

[hexed steppe]

Good way of increasing your rng for raid drops. The more people you rob, the better your rng gets 😎

[strong cave]

Exactly 🤠 the dz rogue life calls you 📱 you should answer it ✅

[strong cave]

Or just run skill + damage + armor umbra with capacitor and stack faster than striker will ever dream of

[fair dragon]

I stopped reading at "skill tiers with Strikers". Decided to continue reading and stopped for real at "the Capacitor already does a ton of damage"

[merry basalt]

I might look into that actually haven't really dabbled into umbra alot

I swear this community is like warframes 😂 I ask and get criticized when I think out of the box

[strong cave]

Umbra is viable for PvE and pvp. Also meta too, and works differently than strikers

[merry basalt]

Yeah I'll mess with umbra I already have a ton of pieces, I've been hording them for a build

[strong cave]

Issue is that thinking outside the box in this game results in poor builds and alot of ground kissing and upset players. Game knowledge is everything. When we tell you a build is shit, trust us, don't fight us

[hexed steppe]

Embrace it as ❤️ and you'll not sweat it

[strong cave]

^^ I learned the hard way when this community pissed me off many times. Now I'm just like em

[fair dragon]

If you can't beat em, join em

[hexed steppe]

Molded to perfection

[merry basalt]

Tbh I think this game would be a little more reasonable with builds if armor regeneration headshot builds would at least get a little nerf. They are to God damn strong in the current meta

[lone sonnet]

anyone ableto show me some PVP builds for pc?

[merry basalt]

Or nerf the big horns headshot attachment

[fair dragon]

FWIW e.g. bring a tank build to a Legendary mission is like bringing a Limbo to an excavation mission

[strong cave]

Stop fighting bighorn builds close range, you have no business being that close. Also stop pushing a firewall kitter. Paired with perf efficient increases Regen by like 300%

Heartbreaker and Sys Corr are bighorn counters

[merry basalt]

That's the problem though, with how alot of people play and how the movement is all they do it dodge and weave and when they directly push you their armor is already back up by the time you run and turn back around to shoot them back

[cerulean smelt]

i've never learned that wiggle movement

[strong cave]

The talent with perf efficient applies to instant kits as well. 2.4m armor with 25% back as an instant kit. Also doesn't steal the kit

[strong cave]

I have, and it's too much Adderall for me to keep up with

[merry basalt]

And all they do is just put on pulse res builds to counter Heartbreaker

Yes it's good but heartbreaker is just to easy to counter itself

[strong cave]

So that's when you start playing with using decoys to flank and run the same pulse immune setup. Be a ghost

Division is a chess match, stop playing checkers

[cerulean smelt]

i'm curious if there'll bee any pvp Provocator builds at some point

[strong cave]

There is. It's cursed.

They're coming in waves

[cerulean smelt]

oh? cursed good or cursed bad?

[strong cave]

It's already replacing tardigrade

[cerulean smelt]

i remember watching a streamer putting it down hard "it has no place in pve or pvp" it's that bad XD

[merry basalt]

That's how I play it's just getting around those players is the challenge. Tank builds like that are just bullet sponges and high armor regeneration is just to powerful right now

[strong cave]

Dod Regnbue 😂

[merry basalt]

But tbh after seeing the new exotic I don't see anything getting changed

They don't know what balancing is

[cerulean smelt]

then watched another. guy puts on 4 aegis, provocator but forgot the last piece and watched him tank legendary

[strong cave]

Pvp has been neglected for years now. Everytime they buff a gun for both content, it gets that much more broken. Pestilence plagues pvp rn and not in a good way

[merry basalt]

Umbra pest

Just to good rn

[cerulean smelt]

most PvP video's i've seen were iron lung

[merry basalt]

And again just run a bighorn armor regeneration Hazzard pro build

[strong cave]

Nobody ever runs haz pro and it's funny

[strong cave]

Guilty as charged 😭😭

[merry basalt]

That's the reason I think armor regeneration needs a nerf in general it's so versatile that you can build it anyway you want without any con

[lone sonnet]

literally everyone on pc

[cerulean smelt]

though, im tempted to try a provocator armor regen/hazpro build

[strong cave]

Stick with tardigrade

[merry basalt]

You can be tanky, do a ton of damage, and catharsis for a get of jail free card for more armor

[cerulean smelt]

not a fan of catharsis honestly :/

my second account i do have a HF + catharsis build going

[strong cave]

I have a tardi build I keep tucked for group play. Does decent damage for clearing landmarks and it's got solid armor and CHC and chd

[merry basalt]

We say that but that exotic is a get out of jail free card

That's how builds should be

This game needs more variety

Instead of everyone running the same shit

[cerulean smelt]

should've seen it before gears 2.0 (> <)

[strong cave]

Tell that to the developers that pushed back the DLC and left us in a content drought for 2+ years

[merry basalt]

Ngl this game was 100% a day 1 cash and dash game

Typical ubisoft

[cerulean smelt]

pre 2.0 builds everyone was running the exact same build and specialization

[merry basalt]

It's the same still

Either firewall or technician

That's all I see

[strong cave]

Idk what side of the game you see but all I see is gunner or firewall 😂

[cerulean smelt]

think there was a time everyone was using hollowman mask, contractor's gloves and Fox's then 3 other pieces of something else

[strong cave]

Barely anyone runs tech in pvp except for pulse or a skill tier

[merry basalt]

Gunner is ight honestly mid at best, firewall just has the benefits for the armor repair and that itself makes it good

[strong cave]

Firewall shield boosts dps

[merry basalt]

Yupppp

It's just to good to pass up on

It does everything you need

Dps and survivability

[strong cave]

If you like health on kill

Issue with that shield is you gotta be up close for the damage buffs. Striker is usually used with an AR at mid range. Firewall would be moot and Gunner takes over

[merry basalt]

Plus using the flamethrower in conflict is funny

[cerulean smelt]

these days though. i'm mostly a soloer so i see what i build and i try to have 1 of each specialization with a build of some sort

[shy willow]

All specs get used

Just a question of build archetype

[strong cave]

I never touch demo unless DH raid

[merry basalt]

I gotta find ravenous abuser though that dude is funny asf

[cerulean smelt]

i'm happy with my demo build (> <)

[merry basalt]

I ran with ravenous abuser the other night and that dude is good and funny asf

[strong cave]

I have a tardi rav build lol

[cerulean smelt]

3 empress, china light backpack, 2 grupo

[merry basalt]

I need to find a build off meta that hits hard and is fun to use really

Playing meta just ain't my style tbh

[strong cave]

What shd bracket you in?

[merry basalt]

1001+

[strong cave]

As well as what region

[merry basalt]

Us east

[strong cave]

We might meet 😂

[cerulean smelt]

i've got 2 builds i can't destroy at all

[merry basalt]

We prob have already

Same name on discord in game

[strong cave]

Correct

It'll never change

[trim wedge]

Shawn that you?

[strong cave]

The pulse immune crit sniper is my kryptonite esp in the dark

[cerulean smelt]

one build that i know as Full metal jacket and the other is my demo build. both are my gotos when i'm like ok i just need to finish what i started here XD

[strong cave]

My high end Strega build for me 🤷 pve content

Pvp for efficiency I slap on my high end EB setup

[cerulean smelt]

i haven't figured out what to do with that gun yet

[hazy harbor]

What weapon mods are best for a Lexington on a Heartbreaker build? Just do as much CHC as possible?

[strong cave]

Honestly just run it on your typical strikers setup with Ceska and coyote

[cerulean smelt]

i don't have a striker with ceska and coyote XD

[strong cave]

Yes, max out CHC on the gun. Make sure you take linked Laser Pointer for your laser slot

Hoping like hell you have flatline on that Lexington

[hazy harbor]

Ok, thanks! And yes I’m running flatline 👍🏼

[violet juniper]

ew striker

[strong cave]

Coyote mask, fenris chest with oblit, grupo holster, ceska backpack with unstoppable force, contractors gloves and Fox's prayer kneepads. Specialization gunner

[cerulean smelt]

probably what the hell is that one with increasing your chd :/

[violet juniper]

I liked using Strega on an OD build tbh

[strong cave]

Skills, shield and reviver hive. Main gun Strega. Hits hard 🔥

[strong cave]

OD works best with Sadist. It's too hard not to pass that up, especially the G36C 🤌

You can use Strega to get some marks and swap to sadist gun and consume the amp damage marks left by Strega

[strong cave]

You're set then go kick ass agent!

[strong cave]

OD > Striker now. Only reason I said striker is bc every player should have a striker build in their loadouts tab. It's essential

Apparently this dude don't 😭😂

[violet juniper]

I do not either

I did, but I got rid of it

[cerulean smelt]

i do just not one without the chest XD

[strong cave]

I keep it bc it's still efficient in raids

[violet juniper]

My HF build clears any and all content, so I'm happy with that

[cerulean smelt]

i was hoping i could get something like div1 striker build going, but i don't think it's possible

[violet juniper]

frenzy umbra build goes crazy though, that's always fun

[cerulean smelt]

i recreated one with headshot damage. i get random moments of not disorienting enemies in range (unmarked enemies outside range getting disoriented) or they get disoriented once or twice and then nothing

[violet juniper]

most enemies don't get disoriented for me

I get too aggressive for my own good

but the fast hands mini vector is just too fun 😢

[cerulean smelt]

i'm assuming from reading the talent. the marked one should get disoriented? i get it like once or twice then nothing for the longest time but i'll notice others outside the marked range getting disoriented

[violet juniper]

It's any marked enemies in a 5-7m radius from the killed target (I can't remember exactly)

[cerulean smelt]

one thing that's really throwing me off is using Tsunami with Perfect Pummel working off seeker mines

[violet juniper]

I still don't understand that gun

People seem to love pummel but brazen is just miles better

[cerulean smelt]

saw a video where they were using it with Fire chem launcher and explaining they get the chem launcher filled up. didn't think that'd work with skills

so, i farmed for a tsunami and put it on an eclipse build and oxidizer build and watch as my chem launcher fills up every 2 or so kills XD

i've been using it to try and cheese master mission

[bold leaf]

Pummel is great for taking out ads one after the other since you get a damage bonus and it refills the mag. Brazen is suited to single targets. It's why the Headhunters Fury build has one of each - pummel and DTOC for multiple targets, brazen and health damage for single

[cerulean smelt]

Pummel also after the 3rd normal kill 2nd perfect refills your magazine

[merry basalt]

@strong cave this is the build im having the most fun with rn

also stalker 2 fashion is best

[strong cave]

Solid setup, just don't have somebody sneak up on you

[merry basalt]

ofc xD

i typically just run the capcaitor with 50% crit chance and 140% crit damage

cause the scabbard just runs with it well

[strong cave]

If anything I actually recommend running a few more blues, ditching the ACS12 with a normal high end AR then when in pvp action swap to ouroboros for extreme mag size

Mag size ouroboros builds in a facefight is a MONSTER

[merry basalt]

i just run the acs12 for fast striker stacks

[strong cave]

You should be at full striker stacks by then to make up for the damage loss

[merry basalt]

it pairs well in invaded for stacks on dogs and heavies

[strong cave]

What about when those don't exist? Now you're killing ads too fast to maintain stacks

[merry basalt]

dont run it in normal dz i sub it for my lexington with flatline

or strained

[strong cave]

Yeah nah a build that only works good for just invaded dz is not a build fit for dz then

[limpid pelican]

Anyone know bis for intimidate shotty pvp? Not sure if its double walker or ceska with fox's + contractors

[strong cave]

Damage is nice but having too much damage is a detriment more than a benefit

[strong cave]

Double walker I'm pretty sure

[limpid pelican]

Ok ty, I should prob just throw it together and double check

[onyx sage]

we mostly run brazen nowadays only tbh

for legendary we just compulsively reload

brazen is a LOT stronger than pummel, makes it very consistent in one shotting minitanks

[bold leaf]

Ah fair enough

[stable marten]

can Ouroboros drop from countdown if you haven't previously gotten it?

[topaz badge]

@stable marten no

[shy willow]

It will only drop from the incursion regardless

[stable marten]

ah ok ok ty

[graceful hawk]

How do I know if my build is ready for a raid ? Atleast dark hours I came back after a 3 year break last thing I played was camp white oak

[glad heart]

https://lite.evernote.com/note/47f32f03-af5c-e3c1-2150-a94d6bb56701

[boreal ingot]

is tactical drone effect consider enemy pulse for flatline or heartbreaker?

Spotter drone I mean

[shy willow]

Yes

Replace the bag with a high end one

[versed flame]

🧐 Pvp?

[cerulean smelt]

i imagine if this is accurate then you spend way more time in cover and out of cover for both talents on the set?
"Increases Max stacks From the Shadows from 50 to 100, stack gain from 10 to 20.
(buffs the armor regen talent)"

[shy willow]

The regen part of the talent is pretty weak

Chest is good tho cuz buffs the offensive part

Better off with vigilance or something

[cerulean smelt]

considered umbra kneepads and trying the eagles grasp gloves? think that has handling bonus?

nods15% mag size and same percent for Weapon Handling which includes a lot of weapon things in general one being reload speed and swap speed

hmm 🤔 45% reload speed would be interesting to see

[shy willow]

Yeah ninja umbra is super strong in pvp

3rd piece is flex I believe

[cerulean smelt]

curious how it's bugged?

[shy willow]

Umbra itself is bugged idk if they fixed it

[cerulean smelt]

oh yeah, i totally forgot that

[shy willow]

But yeah it's a really fun set

[cerulean smelt]

they might've fixed it then and people haven't tried it again since

[shy willow]

If you equip it from a preset the talent doesn't work unless you unequip and re-equip a piece

[cerulean smelt]

the armor as a whole. like naval said sometimes after you equip it from a loadout the talent doesn't start anything in cover or out so you'd have to change 1 piece to something else and put that piece back on for it to start working

[shy willow]

I mean it could but striker is so much more consistent

[strong cave]

Currently, umbra is bugged where when you equip the gearset as a loadout, it doesn't always register the gearsets talent even with 4 PC equipped. To fix it, simply equip the umbra loadout, swap 1 PC of umbra with something else, wait for the game to say "equipped", then swap back to the unequipped umbra piece. This is how we have to use umbra in pve and pvp. Absolutely obnoxious but it shreds when it actually works

As for legendary content, stick to 4 PC striker, ceska piece, coyote

[strong cave]

There's lots of things not fixed in this game that needs to be. Infamous armor directive bug 😂😂

Reload bug took almost 2y to get fixed as well

Umbra was bugged, then got fixed, now is bugged again 😂

One bug I wanna see return again for S&G's is the crafting bug 😂😂😂

Farming got stupid easy when that was a thing: could just craft what you need 😂😂

I went crazy and crafted like 8 duplicate mods a piece for the must-haves and I crafted like 20 famas' bc it was the best AR for a while besides shield splint

Even took advantage of the crafting bench and started crafting sys Corr pieces to get my unicorn setups 👀

Crafting bug I miss you 💔

[lime swallow]

What build do you recommend I use with the Ouroboros? For pve and pvp

[red island]

striker, as usual

ouro is def best combined with striker with its high rof

[patent fossil]

For pve hunters fury is a good choice, better suited to playing up close than striker

[timber dagger]

So I can use blue " protection from elite " mods and become invincible from yellow enemies and bosses ?!

[bold leaf]

Not invincible no, but definitely way tankier than without

[timber dagger]

How if Theoretically if im 100% that's invincibility to yellow enemies and bosses?!

[patent fossil]

Pfe caps at 80%

[timber dagger]

So there's no perfectly rolled items?

[vestal ibex]

There are and you could put 100% PFE on it's just a hard cap of 80%.

Well 91% but still hard cap.

[timber dagger]

So where do u know all this. I spent 40 hrs almost on maximum dmg and then learned u can boost it even more using striker?! And i get downed fast!

[vestal ibex]

This is common knowledge among most players but it probably tells you in the stats UI when looking at PFE just like CHC does.

[cerulean smelt]

plus one of the only ways to hit that cap for PFE would mean you'd have no other benefit for damage or survivability as the 3 pieces you'd be wearing would be Improvised gear which gives you no benefit aside putting 1 mod in them

not to mention the amount of materials you'd go through crafting those 3 pieces up

[bold leaf]

Reallistically PfE has limited uses anyway. I only use it for hunters and recently the master mode manhunt, to give me a few extra nanoseconds of survivability (definitely not to make up for lack of skill 👀 )

[cerulean smelt]

i definitely made a build with 58% pfe and the new exotic + aegis and really slow boat my way in XD

[bold leaf]

Are you still in there? Do you need help? xD

[cerulean smelt]

nah i just woke up XD

[timber dagger]

Its not common knowledge for me! I would 100% choose to farm invincibility build I just saw it on " Reddit " today! The community pin only shows " Meta builds "

[cerulean smelt]

look at the year and TU on that build

[bold leaf]

No game worth anything would allow a 100% invincibility build anyway. Also the meta builds are there for a reason. They get the job done

[cerulean smelt]

and i'm pretty sure that's not a Meta Build (> <)

[timber dagger]

Its almost your shielded 80% from elites! Thats almost invincibility

[bold leaf]

It also does nothing for reds and purples, so unless your activity has mostly elites you won't benefit

[bronze hound]

It doesn't

[bronze hound]

Nah you can still get hit pretty hard

[bronze hound]

Also works on legendary TB/MZ

[bold leaf]

Oh that's a good point. I have avoided those so far xD

[cerulean smelt]

also, you still take damage from them regardlessly

[bronze hound]

Right

80% is nothing when you're doing legendary missions

It's more a requirement than anything

[vestal ibex]

You carry us thru legendary soon then?

[bronze hound]

Do you want me to?

[onyx sage]

same, i need a carry

[bronze hound]

I'm free Monday/Wednesday nights, Saturday mornings and all day Sunday (EST)

[onyx sage]

i have drone turret, i'll be in your care

[vestal ibex]

I will DM on sunday then.

[bronze hound]

Cool you can dm or ping me or whatever is most convenient

[onyx sage]

pls DM me too

[bright raptor]

Div 2 Redditors have very fragile feelings and will death threat you for not respecting their build

[vestal ibex]

Will do papi

[vestal ibex]

Have you unlocked mastery too?

[bronze hound]

I beat it twice why

[onyx sage]

uhhh it's master* 🤓

[bronze hound]

Wasn't that hard

I expected worse

[tawdry flare]

Carry me as well I already beat it solo but without Carry

[bronze hound]

Good for you

[tawdry flare]

I want to see how getting carried feels like instead of the one carrying

[red island]

Whats the différence btw ?

[bronze hound]

More enemies some gimmicks

[bronze hound]

I just tanked the whole thing ngl

[tawdry flare]

Same

[bronze hound]

Pfe basically makes you immune to damage in that mission

[vestal ibex]

Maybe we could all run it too.

[tawdry flare]

Does all counts me ?

[vestal ibex]

Raucey and I were trying to duo it but my internet was going in and out so I got off for the day so I still haven't done mastery.

[bronze hound]

It's nothing special really

[magic pilot]

Me?

[tawdry flare]

He meant me clearly

[patent fossil]

I feel like I ought to redirect you lot to #lfg-pc even though I know you're only memeing. Keep the channel for build advice please!

[bronze hound]

You're a mod now?

[patent fossil]

It does rather look that way, yes.

[bronze hound]

Damn this game really is dead 😔

[patent fossil]

It'll pick up next week when the new season starts, at least for a couple of weeks or so

[vestal ibex]

We building friendships.

[magic pilot]

Eevee only comes in here every now and then to let us know we need to get carried

[graceful hawk]

Thank I appreciate it

[tawdry flare]

You were secretly a dev as well

[bronze hound]

If people actually want to speak to me I'll be here within minutes so long as I'm not asleep, at work, or taking a test

[cerulean smelt]

what about driving? (> <)

[bronze hound]

That too

[cerulean smelt]

is evie your pfp picture?

what show is that?

[bronze hound]

._.

[cerulean smelt]

i just barely saw your pic and see Eevee i thought Pokemone at first

[bronze hound]

Lol

[slow nest]

why do people like eagle's grasp so much for rifle builds, it's only 15% weapon handing

[versed summit]

It’s noticeable and if you’re going for zwia it’s pretty justifiable

If you don’t feel like it benefits you normal zwia gloves or contractors are potentially better options

[cerulean smelt]

you do know what weapon handling affects right?

[slow nest]

errr it was more or less everything except dmg stats no?

I haven't played for well over a year so I don't remember the exact things it boosts

[cerulean smelt]

ah, it's stability, accuracy, swap speed and i think reload speed? could be more that i don't remember myself

[magic pilot]

Yes

[versed summit]

Reload speed will increase your sustain damage

[magic pilot]

Which 1886 lacks

[slow nest]

haven't noticed that so far, the reload speed seems fast

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, think at first i noticed nothing different for the longest time

i feel with all the weapon handling stuff we should be able to theoritically hit near golden bullet reloading XD

[slow nest]

I need a rifle build that works with bodyshots 😄

my aim is too shit, but I like rifles

[torpid gulch]

try this. everything is cc/cd. great damage & handling for rifles.

[slow nest]

I'll give it a shot tomorrow, thank you 🙂

[versed summit]

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/sh/0d1135cf-139c-394e-53f6-02c1b8b4cea9/2e477c029e8333d52b55d2d99eec4808

id just recommend high end red, it’s a few % worse than a zwia build would be, but it isn’t weapon specific.

[lime swallow]

Does anyone have the one shot build used for buddy and lucy?

[cerulean smelt]

can't say i heard of 1 shot for either, but if there is any, probably requires a well coordinated group

thinking if it's possible. some kind of skill tier build with BTSU gloves, another person with Achilles pulse and whatever build to do 1 shot to either

[red island]

you just need to burst them down fast

its possible, but you need to be coordinated

simple dps build is good enough

[vestal ibex]

BLB baby

[urban latch]

Punch drunk, pgc, dch, contractors, foxes, and then ideally habs backpack with vigilance, but walker Harris or providence are fine. Really you just need vigi on the backpack.

For lfgs you stack blb in the baggage room, and swap to regulus/harvest once the buddy/Lucy fight starts

[cerulean smelt]

so it is possible, even without the achilles pulse?

[urban latch]

you achilles the boss, yes

[cerulean smelt]

would that include both groups having a build like that to basically 1 shot both buddy and lucy at once?

[vestal ibex]

Yes.

[urban latch]

you'll also need to charge up your dch while not swapping off your pistol, so you'll either pull out a grenade or skill like foam to charge it up

[vestal ibex]

Two people doing the same thing on each dog.

[urban latch]

1 for each dog

[cerulean smelt]

oh wow, so extremely coordinated group XD

[vestal ibex]

Naw this is pubs stuff

[urban latch]

the coordinated stuff is when you do it without blb in a speedrun lol

[vestal ibex]

Coordinated groups will use HS strikers.

3 HS strikers+1 buffer per dog.

[cerulean smelt]

well, the coordinated i'm thinking is both timing their shots on both buddy and lucy together

then again, since i've gotten my EB from there i rarely ran it again

[vestal ibex]

Just shoot them when their health bars come up.

[urban latch]

you do need to tell the group to not shoot the dogs if your attempting the 1 shot. If others are doing damage it will mess things up, you need to be the first damage on the boss. Ive seen people mess it up by throwing grenades for sledge

[cerulean smelt]

then the anger comes out XD

[urban latch]

the trick to the timing is watch the little shield icon above thier health bars. The moment both go away, you shoot

[cerulean smelt]

wanted a gif with Ren and Stimpy "you eedeeiot!" XD

[vestal ibex]

If it gets messed up it's not a big deal, most groups will at least run 1 BLB and just kill buddy and burn lucy down instantly.

[cerulean smelt]

they got something similar to that first boss or is that mechanic just have to do it manually?

[vestal ibex]

New blb players make 1 big mistake all the time tho. That's going into their inventory when they have the skill still in their hands which forces your main weapon into your hands thus activating BLB too early and it runs out before they take their shot.

[vestal ibex]

Boomer? He is one shot but it's nego and way more setup.

Most groups do double, triple, or infinite downs on him and just burn him over and over real quick, others use a couple nego builds to do damage while going back and forth.

[cerulean smelt]

lol, i remember we'd have 1 or 2 people be the bait on him and if anyone else got his attention they'd get yelled at XD

[vestal ibex]

Yeah eye swapping isn't ideal regardless. Usually a FI healer is kiting the boss, doing scorp shock/elmo+sucker punch or something.

[cerulean smelt]

think last time i ran DH was before 40 was a thing or shortly after to help people get an EB or something? i forget

[hazy steeple]

Ah, FMJ days. Or at least close.
It's been 5 years, who's counting.

[cerulean smelt]

my favorite was the Aces chunga deleting days XD

[vestal ibex]

idk I did like 600 of em in year one, was a lot of fun and basically a different game.

[urban latch]

That wasnt a thing at that point lol

[hazy steeple]

That's why I added the rest. Who's counting after 5 years.

[cerulean smelt]

certainly not me. maybe Raucey is? (> <)

[hazy steeple]

Raucey likes to nitpick me specifically, everyone needs a hobby.

[cerulean smelt]

maybe it's Raucey's way of showing affection towards you?

[timid plume]

What's the best build to use for legendary missions solo?

[torpid gulch]

Striker's & Negotiator's Dilemma works great.

[subtle bluff]

Generally Strikers. Nego and HB can be used but should be swap off on depending on what section you're on. Half of doing leggo cleanly is knowing the spawns.

I like to say this not to be rude if you have ask you're not ready for it. Solo heroics without going down (no rez hive) in all red's if you can do that then you can start trying legendary solo.

[subtle bluff]

We love our raucey. The small things we all over look he doesn't. Who's else has explained our "1shot protection?"

[timid plume]

I've done them plenty of times before I asked cause I haven't played for a while so I was curious of anything changed. To lazy to google or figure out in game myself. 😄

[worn mango]

@magic pilot getting that Pointman double crit will be the death of me

Doing that blue OD, ughhh lol

[magic pilot]

rip lol

[worn mango]

Just using tardi and perfectly opportunistic backpack, works pretty good. Couple of calibrates to do on the crit chance but that's it

[subtle bluff]

Nothing major has changed. Some small stuff but as far solo leggo nothing. There's some new tech for some leggo speeds but that's it.

[dreamy valve]

Having 2 Lexingtons has been perfect for this global event so far

[dreamy valve]

And damn, the UIC rifle is gunna be a beast next season. That thing has laser beam handling and super fast reload

Even unoptimized it has huge optimal range, 1 second reload time, max accuracy and stability,58 mag capacity

[versed summit]

The fact there’s no crit mods scares me

[dreamy valve]

Headshot central

Also, cool I finally had a dtooc Harvest drop

[subtle bluff]

Wouldn't use UIC for HS rifle builds. At that rate you want higher Base DMG rifiles.

[dreamy valve]

seems fine to me

Artist Tool was doing great for HSD

[subtle bluff]

Sorry not a lot of context there. One HS Rifle builds.

[boreal ingot]

heart breaker lmg build would you preferred steady hand for ammo refill so you can cont shooting or flatline for dmg?

[sick canopy]

Some one drop a screen shot of they builds please 🙏 😭 need to get my builds together

[solar sable]

what builds are you looking for?

[sick canopy]

@solar sable lol all of them I have striker and Heartbreakers that's it

[solar sable]

hmmm, aight gimme a few mins

[sick canopy]

Bet thanks

[solar sable]

my Incursion build may be outdated idk

I haven't finished some of the builds that are in my loadouts
(e.g mortar)

[subtle bluff]

#td2-build-advice message

[sick canopy]

👍

[magic pilot]

these are all good still besides your oxi lol

[solar sable]

i mean you ain't wrong
I just have the game installed but I don't play anymore

[mint hollow]

Hey guys what talent should I use on my police magnum? I got a good roll but in sync for the talent and want to know what I should put instead

[bright raptor]

For most purposes it doesn't really matter

but

if you want to try a pistol Chainkiller headshot build you can try Determined on it

[onyx sage]

hmm

[subtle bluff]

I've seen a few of these oxi builds. Dunno where they came from.

[hazy steeple]

Oxi builds are (at least partially) one of the old Hunter Floor 100 setups.

This was yonks ago now.

They're still pretty good for killing tougher armoured enemies.

[subtle bluff]

The oxy for Floor 100 oxi is better than that

[solar sable]

I just had spare pieces with skill dmg and decided to slap them into the build while I farmed the real ones

that was at least 3 months ago

[subtle bluff]

OC for Oxi is kind of given for it, DTTooC and DTA help it a good amount.

My issue is that your sharing a very sub oxi build.

The rest are fine.

[solar sable]

I didn't even look at it

I thought it was fine when I saw it but eh

[subtle bluff]

Just give the speadsheet next time imo

[solar sable]

it's really not

[solar sable]

my fault don't kill me

[bright raptor]

loads Orbit

[subtle bluff]

Just trying to keep it simple.

[devout iris]

So is nemesis good with HS?

By HS I mean hotshot

[bright raptor]

Yes, just need enemies to hold still while you charge up

[patent fossil]

Too slow to be your main weapon but good for rebuilding HH stacks after you lose them

[red island]

yeah if you dont have spec ammo

[devout iris]

Cause I already got chain killer and the gift on my HS build

[hazy steeple]

Those two Talents are just the default for MMR setups, they don't really change between builds.

Headhunter+Vigi: all day long.

[supple storm]

I need some help for a IH tank build:

I saw on of my clan LTs use this in the IH raid and wanted to try to make it

I feel like i did a good job but still need some advice

[shy willow]

Its basically impossible to go down on a tank build in IH you're better off with a protector bag

[versed summit]

This is my recommendation. There’s no benefit to running ninja, and this would only be useful for key tank, when something like this will work for every boss as it’s full hazpro.

If you don’t want ad rush or protector, the setup is the next best option and those are all a tier options.

[urban latch]

For raids you don't really need ad rush. Protector is generally ideal to help the team a little, healer generally already has opportunistic.

[tawdry raven]

What's the top 3 ARs rn?

[urban latch]

IC3SOs setup is solid. Tbh all you really need is 6 blue cores, vanguard (or tardi as the second tank), and the bulwark shield. Having Regen, haz pro, and pfe are all things you can benefit from. The tank guide in the spreadsheet is a bit more optimized for the raid and gets you has immunity, Regen, and pfe, but has some difficult things to farm for. For fieser you'd ideally be immune to fire at least.

[versed summit]

They’re all pretty balanced besides Lexington

[tawdry raven]

That explains why I thought the famas was dookie stat compared to Lexington last night

[urban latch]

The difference between them isn't huge, but the Lexington is a clear winner

[versed summit]

IMO this is a better version than the one in the sheet. 3% regen vs 2% , same PFE and hazpro,

[long inlet]

I've just came back to divison 2 not long ago I wanna know what's a decent build I'm watch level 24 trying to level it up currently

[fresh fox]

which tank is this for

this setup is more of a diagnostic tank

since you can only really give vanguard

so it’s about beefing up your armor so vanguard can be the best

[versed summit]

A striker build is a good one to start with, you can find a guide in the pinned spreadsheet

[urban latch]

its got an extra pfe mod on it, and its not using 3p gila so you can swap in tardi when needed

[long inlet]

Where's the pinned spreadsheet lol 😅

[fresh fox]

ninja is good for big beefy vanguard procs but that’s honestly it

[versed summit]

This has 4 PFEs because of Chill out, swapping in tardigrade is a little more complicated though.

[versed summit]

#td2-build-advice message

[urban latch]

oh fair point. Yours is definitely good. The differences are really minor and theres a lot of ways you can set things up

[versed summit]

Like you said there’s just a few things you need to have and everything else is a bonus

[urban latch]

Right. People have run 4p foundry for ages and its fine. Not min/maxed, but easy to setup and does the job

[long inlet]

Thank you

[urban latch]

It's one of the pinned comments in this channel for future reference

[warm knot]

Is hard wired that good for mortar build? I saw a guy just wiping everything in DUA some time ago. I have the high end version.

I think they were running wyvern/kinect and btsu. 🤔

[shy willow]

if you're building mortar high end is better

[bright raptor]

^ Hard Wired is good if you really want minimal downtime, but high end does more damage and is close enough in terms of turret uptime

[magic pilot]

Same

[rich lotus]

what is the best build for summit

[sullen sun]

Is running spotter irrelevant with HB?

[versed summit]

Nearly

The chest is a lot better, and if you’re running heartbreaker and want up front damage, just run high end spotter at that point

[turbid gate]

Finally got a big horn last night!
Any suggestions for builds to pair with its HSD?
I was thinking a HB build w/ ceska and obliterate or strikers

[magic pilot]

Give me some blue crystal and I'll tell you

[tame crane]

Is this gun usable? Got like the most perfect roll on it I think, all maxed with DTTOOC and Determined

[final steppe]

no idea i use them on my Tank build For Morozova with perfect oportunistic version or i use G28 with Galvanize. And i use Eyeless talent on my SVD ^^

[tame crane]

Yeah I was thinking more of if its usable in those Sniper one shot builds 😄 I have my White Death 3pc Hotshot build but curious of if this gun is of any use in a build of that kind

[final steppe]

Try and u will see if it's good 🙂

I prefered White death and Nemesis for my build sniper

[tame crane]

yeah exactly what I use

[final steppe]

Not the same pc of you but it's same result i think

[tame crane]

yeah was thinking of guns, dont really need to ask for more when I have my White Death and Nemesis 😄

[bright raptor]

it is usable but not great due to whatever design lack of thought it is that makes bolt action sniper rifles significantly stronger than the others

[versed flame]

Small damage, bets will constantly fly off, unless in the GS

[bright raptor]

but you know, if you like it you can keep it, I've got one of those and one max rolled G28 too despite never using it

[tame crane]

Yeah probably will just put it in my stash, considering the roll it dropped with, probably never touching it tho

[bright raptor]

shame the gearset reworks to accommodate the semi auto sniper rifles didn't actually do anything meaningful

[final steppe]

i have a G28 max roll and 27 expertise for my tank it's the best option for the moment but it's a Tank build haha 🥲

[bright raptor]

the Reanimated global event buff to headshots might actually make it usable with it on

[vestal ibex]

#ask-td2-community message Anything works with that event...

[plush field]

anyone got Gold Build for DZ and Conflict for Eaglebearer?

[magic pilot]

https://lite.evernote.com/note/e276d9da-3885-ebd9-5354-35b77ed1c75c

[plush field]

tnx

[wild helm]

Hello, returning player here, only played few years ago until shd lvl 40.
Anyone got suggestions for an LMG build for solo and one for group content? Every guide I found is almost a year old, and I'm not sure if something got patched.

[fresh fox]

it’s poop

[magic pilot]

OD