td2-build-advice

[honest relic]

Assault.

[low narwhal]

no, its better to be at tier 6, coz thats when you get overcharge, after your 4th kill

If you started out at tier 2 and get 3 kills and land at tier 5, you dont get overcharge

so its a waste of half of the talent

For assault if you wanted to know

[honest relic]

I understand. So if i lean a little more into weapon damage instead of skill tier, then sit at 4 ranks skill tier.. the the three kills with future perfect gets me overcharge, but I have to get the third kill to activate ot

Thats a big damage jump

[low narwhal]

yes, you can do that so its easier to get overcharge

[onyx sage]

you can start at 3 skill tier

[low narwhal]

if you sit at tier 4, you only need 3 kills for overcharge

[low narwhal]

this will be more effective

[onyx sage]

you get 3 from future perfect, then the 4th kill will give you overcharge

[honest relic]

Then you wouldn't get overcharge

[onyx sage]

you would

[honest relic]

Really?

[onyx sage]

yes

[low narwhal]

simply put, you wont get overcharge if you are tier 2 or below

If you are tier 3 or above, you get overcharge

[onyx sage]

you can also test yourself lol

[honest relic]

3+3 is six. Does the overcharge trigger when you hit tier 6?

[onyx sage]

yes

the talent checks on kill if you are tier 6, if yes it gives overcharge

[honest relic]

Ooh that opens up a few things!

[onyx sage]

the talent does 2 different things at once

[honest relic]

See... This is why im here... Cause im dumb lol

[low narwhal]

you know you hit overcharge, coz you will see a charging battery icon above your skills

where it usually says what tier it is

[honest relic]

Ok i have Future perfect on both my m44 and 1886 right now and im sitting at tier 5. Soni could totally diversify my gear a bit more

[low narwhal]

no sometimes its just complicated wording xD

[honest relic]

No doubt lol

[ebon sapphire]

Sheeeesh RNG Jesus working hard

[low narwhal]

Goddamnnn💦

[strong cave]

I'd roll armor on those bad boys

Slot it on for PvE and pvp 🔥

[lost wren]

how's this for a heartbreaker pvp setup?

[strong cave]

Ditch holster for HB and ditch mask for catharsis

Catharsis is free weapon damage and free health. You tank hard for heartbreaker. I'd also recommend taking technician, ditch firewall. You need to hit heads for pulse. Ditch the decoy, take a defender drone. Ditch the sticky, take pulse. Throw linked Lazer pointer on your ACS 12 @lost wren

[ebon sapphire]

I didn’t think about this. I think I rolled it to max wep dmg lmao

[strong cave]

Ye just slot on armor if you need armor since you can roll off the core infinitely

(whatever you reroll is now the only slot you can reroll)

[lost wren]

don't have technician leveled yet

[tulip charm]

Pretty sure most hb are running hs

[strong cave]

Much better. Level up tech, it's borderline a must for heartbreaker in case pulse is on cooldown or you get EMPd

[strong cave]

I run mine as crits and even with EB it's nasty. Fought 5 at once bc of it and came out on top

[ebon sapphire]

Unbreakable chest for more survivability?

[honest relic]

You guys were not kidding about the head hunter talent. 20% damage from spotter has nothing on head hunter

[strong cave]

For heartbreaker? Hell no. You're losing half your damage taking unbreakable

[strong cave]

Headhunter + determined Model 700 can pretty much 1 shot everything even with level 1 gear

[ebon sapphire]

I don’t really pvp lol planning to make one with lexington and hb

I don’t have the almighty EB

[strong cave]

I mean you could use the heartbreaker backpack and take unbreakable chest but you lose out on so much damage. I'm also pretty sure the chest increases stacks from 50 to 100 so it counts for bonus armor too. You lose out on so so much not taking the chest

Backpack boosts bonus armor, chest boosts stacks, which means more armor + damage. I'd rather have that over unbreakable

[onyx sage]

it's one of the most hard carrying chest talents in the game

[strong cave]

It's also likely gonna be nerfed I feel 😂

[ebon sapphire]

Would you use fenris over ceska for the kneepads?

[onyx sage]

it hasn't been nerfed except once already

[strong cave]

No, more crit chance means more places to stack crit damage

[lost wren]

also, for striker obliterate
should i use 1 or 2?

[strong cave]

Which usually results in more damage

[low narwhal]

Is HB backpack worth it? I rather use some backpack talent?

[strong cave]

Extremely. You get double the bonus armor. Additionally, memento works just as good

[versed summit]

1

[lost wren]

gotcha

[versed summit]

PvP maybe, but it’s kinda mid for both IMO

[honest relic]

Im running tactician drone and turret and was just sniping as an opportunist. Spotter was a nice damage bump. Someone recommended head hunter. Im running model 1886 and m44 right now. Its stupid. 20mil a hit when i get a groove going

[strong cave]

Use 1, but honestly you should ditch grupo and just take coyote mask instead. Buffs not just you but your squad too. Facefights are common in PvP so you'll almost always be getting the 25% buff. It's better than Grupo

[lost wren]

damn

[onyx sage]

now you kinda see how weapon damage builds are meta in this game

[low narwhal]

And I heard catharsis is bad because you don’t see the healing cloud tbf. Maybe coyote will work better in terms of DPS coz it’s consistent. You only get average 15% with catharsis?

[honest relic]

Thus why my skills are more.. manipulation of the ai lol and making it easier for me to shoot lol

[onyx sage]

i would say use the decoy instead so your skills don't accidentally steal your kills

[honest relic]

Turret nice damage against mobs and pins some down. Drone pinpointing enemies even when i go blind lol

[onyx sage]

you actually don't want your skills to be stealing your kills. it's an anti-synergy

[honest relic]

Haven't got it yet. I was only level 27 back in 2019 lol. I only just picked it back up 3 days ago

Its a whole nother game now

[onyx sage]

you haven't played through the dlc?

[strong cave]

Catharsis got buffed heavily for weapon damage. It went from 30% to I think 45? Ish? I don't know but it's now really good. Definitely deals crazy damage on face tank builds in dz like Regen bighorn, heartbreaker, other gear sets or even high end builds

[ebon sapphire]

Yeah I played back in 2019 and came back a month ago. I was surprised to see the basement is gone haha

[onyx sage]

yeah 45%

[honest relic]

Working on it. Farming some gear right now

[onyx sage]

so on average 22.5%

[onyx sage]

are you level 40 yet?

[honest relic]

Dude.. untill you just said that.. I forgot it existed

[low narwhal]

Wait what? Since when?

[onyx sage]

this patch

[honest relic]

Yeah. Level 15 watch

[strong cave]

Since this update

/season started

[low narwhal]

Might have to slip on the catharsis mask then

[strong cave]

Catharsis has always been good but too niche for PVP

[onyx sage]

got it, yeah i definitely recommend playing through the dlc storyline to get the rogue skills, you don't need any specific build to do them aside from the end mission which requires you to do weapon damage

[strong cave]

Didn't have a proper place in pve besides full armor builds or heartbreaker

[ebon sapphire]

I think it was gear score before right?

[low narwhal]

Hmm im still not convinced of keeping HB backpack tho. I feel like something else can be used but idk what now. I’ll have a look later

[strong cave]

It was correct

[honest relic]

What are the rogue skills? Im looking for ninja pack, scalpel, and eagles grasp gloves right now.

[onyx sage]

decoy, sticky bomb

[honest relic]

Yeah i was looking for gear score lol

[onyx sage]

these are some of the best skills in the game

[strong cave]

Keep it for now. Exotic backpack Memento slots good there as a backpack too. You'll get a shit load of armor, weapon damage and even skill efficiency which is a majorly slept on bonus. You'll even get passive weapon damage, armor Regen, and obviously skill efficiency too

[low narwhal]

Maybe check countdown vendor. Eagle grasp Might be there idk if it’s changed

[strong cave]

It'll turn heartbreaker into hunters fury basically but immortal

[strong cave]

Avoid ninjabike backpack. Serious newbie trap

[low narwhal]

Yhh that’s why I’m thinking momento could be better choice also

[strong cave]

There's only a small handful of ninjabike builds that are actually good

[honest relic]

Right now im running model 1886 3 empress and 3 breaking point with 6 skill tier and future perfect

[honest relic]

Ive yet to even try count down lol

[ebon sapphire]

Ninjabike I think is best with backfire so you can get more haz pro with just 2 gear pieces. for pve at least

[low narwhal]

It’s real easy on challenging. Just stay with the team and keep shooting

[strong cave]

Till you get slapped into a group and your damage lacks so you die more than you kill

[honest relic]

Well originally my build was 3 different vendors so it made sense. Now that I scrapped spotter from my build... Options are open

[low narwhal]

I think 3 improvised pieces give you 60% haz pro?

[strong cave]

Hotshot ninjabike builds?

[ebon sapphire]

for pve? I run hunters fury with it, cavalier and ceska.

[strong cave]

Not worth it. You get zero bonuses with ninja for improvised. Take 1 ceska, take 1 Yaahl, get 60 hazpro rolls and use 3 bleed resis mods. You'll be 100 bleed

[honest relic]

Yeah . But then i found this damn 1886 and i freaking love it, so specing exclusively into marksman wasnt an option anymore.. so breaking point and empress lol

[strong cave]

Or, ditch Yaahl and take cavalier

[onyx sage]

yoooo did someone say ninjabike with improvised

[low narwhal]

I think you misunderstood. I’m not using ninja. Do you mean using ninja with your set up?

[onyx sage]

the "WHAT IS THAT" build

[strong cave]

Yup and this is where the party starts. Would you be interesting in partaking a full 5.11 manhunt run with me? 😂

5.11 only. Let's show these dz kiddies what's up

I just need to farm for the mask, chest, holster, gloves, backpack and kneepads 🔥

[onyx sage]

so true

[strong cave]

That's how I'd go for a hazpro build with backfire. Pair it with Umbra. Shreds like you wouldn't believe

One of the few ninjabike builds I actually like

[honest relic]

Ive got a long way to go

[low narwhal]

Same! Once my stash got full, I deleted all 5.11

[low narwhal]

Ahh Okayy, will give it a go!

[strong cave]

Your issue began when you started collecting that 5.11 shit 😂

Just saying 😂

[low narwhal]

I didn’t know back then till i realised 30% health is shit😂

So I deleted any pieces that give me health lol

[strong cave]

Yk what since I have absolutely no content worth grinding for, should I buy this game again when it goes on sale and only collect 5.11 gear? Like 4 full characters of just 5.11 gear. That's it. Fill the stash, everything. 5.11 only

[low narwhal]

Unless other two stats are worth it😂

[strong cave]

I'm that bored. Might even turn it into a YT video

[low narwhal]

😂😂

[strong cave]

YO THATS A CRAZY IDEA

[low narwhal]

😂😂

[strong cave]

IM A GENIUS

[low narwhal]

The most disgusting account to exist!😂

[strong cave]

Dw @onyx sage , I'll make sure to do ninjabike backpack next 🔥

All 4 characters, full stash, only ninjabike

[ebon sapphire]

Is umbra armor or wep dmg. as main attribute?

[strong cave]

Weapon damage

[onyx sage]

it's the best gear item ever

[strong cave]

Idk tho their biggest rival is their little brother: the kneepads

25% bonus armor when I vault cover. Or cover to cover. Might save my life yk?

[low narwhal]

You can’t even vault that much in the game lol

I don’t even vault half the time

[strong cave]

And they still gave us acostas kneepads 😂

[low narwhal]

Maybe you can

[low narwhal]

Countdown knees😂

[strong cave]

Acostas kneepads is just fancier ninjabike kneepads

[strong cave]

For real 😂

[low narwhal]

To escape the hunters😂

[strong cave]

Can't even pair them mfs with lady death. Like bruh cmon. Yawn

I wanted to make my sanik hedjhawg bild

[low narwhal]

Lady death lost 500% melee dmg :/

Idk when but not a needed nerf

[strong cave]

Did it really?

[low narwhal]

Yhh

I wanted to make a fun melee build earlier but I guess sweet dreams is the way

[strong cave]

Damn, you missed it. Bonk builds were so broken for a bit. They still are against a full team of them 😂

[low narwhal]

😂😂😂

Sweet dreams works now I think

[strong cave]

They're really bad against heartbreaker or bighorn Regen tho

[low narwhal]

And you can swap out and back

[low narwhal]

Oo you mean pvp?

[strong cave]

Yes

[low narwhal]

Must be fun 😂 conflict 5v5

[strong cave]

Melee builds on PvE is god awful unless on a stupid low difficulty

Most melee objectives I do with my PvP bonk build

[low narwhal]

Yhh I figured🥲 I was hoping that’s where sweet dreams came in

[strong cave]

On normal I can pretty much 1 tap elites

That was with lady death mind you

[low narwhal]

Damn🥲 must be nice!

[low narwhal]

Yhh 2.7mil dmg apparently

[strong cave]

Most you could bonk for was 2.7m yup

[low narwhal]

W lady death, striker shield, claws out and seeing red

[strong cave]

I didn't use seeing red actually, hurt the survivability

[low narwhal]

Yhh saw on a Reddit post today as I was looking for melee builds

[low narwhal]

Why?

First bonk will be weaker I guess

[strong cave]

Well I ran mine with armor Regen and hazpro. You're gonna be close range, always. You'll need to Regen health, and hazpro makes you immune to any skills

[low narwhal]

Ahh makes sense

That’s truu say

[strong cave]

Just run 3 gila, 1 belstone, claws out and Emp guard knees with hazpro and Regen everywhere

Armor on everything

Booster hive, firewall striker shield. Using everyday carrier with firewall is busted, especially on 100k+ armor Regen builds

[low narwhal]

Ooo damnn😂 I’ll give it a go😂 but melee is not good rn especially since their nerf. So idk if it’s worth it

[strong cave]

Firewall kit repairs I think 200% armor. Everyday carrier doubles it I believe, so it'll be twice that plus 100k armor Regen

[strong cave]

It isn't. You're unfortunately 1 title update too late

[low narwhal]

Oo damnn that’s a good explanation of the synergy between them

[low narwhal]

Rip🥲

[strong cave]

It's kinda how a bighorn Regen build works too. It's just busted how talents work sometimes. Run a ton of Regen and pop a kit, you'll be unkillable for a bit. People dare say it's better than unbreakable

[low narwhal]

Ooo wouldn’t it work it all guns?🤔

So it would be good to run in any set up p much

You just need everyday carrier and striker spec

[strong cave]

Bighorn is a headshot weapon. Hitting headshots rewards more headshot damage. Deadly in close quarters

[low narwhal]

Ahh I see! I’m just familiar with 450% scoped dmg

I need to read the rest

[strong cave]

Ideally you'll want catharsis, everyday carrier, gila holster, gila bag, gila gloves, Emp guard knees rolled for either hs damage or armor Regen. Roll for blue on the kneepads ofc

[low narwhal]

Just read the description, a cool weapon!

[strong cave]

Ad Rush backpack, skills can be whatever. Booster hive and defender drone is busted

[low narwhal]

I have it but dont use as much

[strong cave]

Firewall ofc

[strong cave]

Booster hive removes status effects

If you wanna get toxic just run the same setup but slap on hazpro and armor Regen instead of armor Regen and headshot damage

[low narwhal]

This is for pvp?

[strong cave]

Bighorn delivers enough damage on its own anyways

[low narwhal]

For PvE?

[low narwhal]

Truuu sayy

Don’t even need weapon cores

[strong cave]

Correct. You can run it on PvE but I personally wouldn't unless you like playing challenging

[low narwhal]

Nice nice! I shall try that builds out if I ever get into PvP😂

I’m staying clear of it until I got nothing else to do😂

[strong cave]

I've been on my PvP grind since I'm technically considered a "veteran" ish. I've done basically all content there is in this game besides Kenley College

All I have left for me is PvP and even then that's dying hard too. PvP community makes up maybe 10% of this game, if that

[low narwhal]

Ahh i see! Same I finished p much all content. I could explore the raids further and become more effective in legendaries but that’s about it

[low narwhal]

Yhhh pvp channels on discord be dead too

And ppl already got their own groups to PvP

[strong cave]

I've only played 1 Legendary, and that's DUA. I'm choosing to try them all blind so I can improve myself. I've done the raids countlessly, and farming them over and over is exhausting for me. Loved helping newbies get their guns but damn it's so repetitive

[low narwhal]

Same I’m at the stage of helping newbies also. But I guess I’ll get bored of it too

[strong cave]

I float between groups. Mostly I play with known PvP'ers that hop on in the dz's at the same time daily

[low narwhal]

Solo legendary or?

[strong cave]

Solo and once in a blue moon duo with my buddy

[low narwhal]

Ahh Okayy

[low narwhal]

Oo okayy. I do 4 man legendary😂 maybe one day I can do solo too😂

[strong cave]

Eventually I got tired of running incursion 5 times in a row and Dark Hours about 7

Iron Horse maybe 3 or 4?

[low narwhal]

I agree! It does repetitive. I still got a bit to learn in iron horse so it’s gonna take a while before that dies for me

[strong cave]

I've not got triple digits for clears but I know enough to say I'm burnt out from it lol

[honest relic]

Which is better when tinkering for a marksman rifle. Mag size, optimal range, crit chance, or damage to armor?

[low narwhal]

Yhh Truu say.

[low narwhal]

DTA

[strong cave]

I need me a second regulus but I truly don't wanna run Iron Horse more

[strong cave]

Damage to Targets out of Cover

[low narwhal]

why second regulus?

[strong cave]

So I can use it on my other pvp character

Without having to swap between 2 when I wanna be a scumbag holding a regulus with my right hand and pixel peeking a right hand corner behind a shield

[low narwhal]

😂😂

Regulus in capitol WR run was quite cool!

Popping heads everywhere

And the crazy oxy also

Literal spawn detox

[strong cave]

Regulus in conflict and DZ is a nightmare. Can't peek nothing, you'll be dropped in 1 or 2 shots. Crit regulus is worse

[strong cave]

I got a spawn trap going for the capitol building using pestilence 😂

[low narwhal]

Oo damn 🥲

[low narwhal]

😂😂 w eclipse protocol?

[strong cave]

True Patriot, surprisingly

[low narwhal]

Ooh do the explosions under full flag affect nearby enemies?

[strong cave]

It does actually

Enemies go boom boom 😂

[low narwhal]

Ahh crazy

That’s a quite cool tanky build tbf

I have TP but idk what to use it. Maybe pestilence the way😂

It’s rerolled half hazpro or explosive res and half armor regen

[honest relic]

Im tempted to run versatile since im running a rifle with iron sights and marksman with scope

35% more damage

[lost wren]

?

[honest relic]

Is preservation a worthwhile talent?

[strong cave]

Versatile, mediocre talent at best. Literally vigilance and unstoppable force give the same damage bonus and it's uptime depends entirely on you

[versed summit]

Sometimes. It’s one of the better talents for utility

[honest relic]

I was tempted to put in on my 1886. If im using it... Danger close. Otherwise im in the scope on my m44.

[strong cave]

Build don't look bad but not taking double walker and Harris is a crime. You'll get so much more damage out of your build that way

[lost wren]

holster then?

[strong cave]

Yes. You'll unlock 5% more damage to armor that way. Gloves are hopefully contractors so that's 8% too. 13% total DTA unless you have 6% on EB or 10% DTTOC

Then it'll either be 19% bonus damage or 23%

[lost wren]

i have chd currently on eb

need to roll more

[strong cave]

Reroll for DTTOC

EB got a CHC buff this title update. Desperately needed one

[magic pilot]

this is false.

[fresh fox]

knew that was coming

was gonna say something but i wanted to fully read everything..

[lost wren]

what should i run then?

[magic pilot]

what you had before lol

[strong cave]

Ah wait this is a spreadsheet build isn't it

[magic pilot]

you need to get a blue core tho

[lost wren]

4 blues should be ok for now, no?

[strong cave]

4 blues is usually ideal but I'm not sure. I dislike this kinda setup because it doesn't feel as powerful as it should

[lost wren]

also trying to farm for matador that i can swap to blue core for
conflict's the best way to do so right?

[strong cave]

Named Item caches or targeted w&h for DZ

[lost wren]

gotcha

[magic pilot]

how much WD do you have in the stats page?

[strong cave]

I didn't even see his SHD level holy shit you're right, keep grupo 💀💀

MY BAD 😭😭

[lost wren]

in conflict rn so idk if this is accurate

[strong cave]

Conflict normalizes stats so I'd say no

[lost wren]

i'll sc when i get out

[strong cave]

Good luck. Hope it's not got a skill build EMP vile glass cannon

[lost wren]

i seem to be getting up against a whole lot of skill builds with damage over time and status effects

is that what that is?

[magic pilot]

going off the WD he has rn, 2 pc walker is an okay option depending on how many headshots he hits

problem is if he does hit headshots its only a 0.68% increase

2000damage roughly

[strong cave]

Yeah get off conflict. Go to DZ for good pvp if there's even anyone there. Most of the frequent manhunters are on at this time assuming you're US East

[strong cave]

It's probably the most toxic build in conflict. Those guys aren't playing for fun, probably to win

[kindred mango]

GL that is a hard one. I found the blueprint from Descent and crafted it before I dropped one in the wild

[magic pilot]

same

after someone dropped me one

if DZ gets walker TL farm that in a 4 man

[strong cave]

Or solo with striker + memento

Just in case you're solo like most 🔥

[magic pilot]

im saying to farm in a 4 man for a higher drop chance.

[strong cave]

Truth, that too

[lost wren]

we'll i'm shd level 600+ dunno if i'd find any of those

[strong cave]

There's probably players in your dz bracket and if not then I bid you good luck with not ripping your hair out with conflict

[lost wren]

yeah conflict is really not that fun

[strong cave]

DZ on top 👑

[lost wren]

i literally got this game for the dz

[strong cave]

when it's populated ofc...

[shy willow]

Rip

[strong cave]

Felt the pain there

[kindred mango]

Get to shd 1000 and I’m pretty sure you’ll find peeps in the dz. Or vice versa 👹

[lost wren]

hmm
should i go for fenris holster for the weapon damage?

[lost wren]

hoping for another 5x xp multi for christmas break to grind out the levels 💪

[solar sable]

it's actually a 3xXP

[kindred mango]

3x xp in 1w 4d

[lost wren]

oh really? epic

[solar sable]

then the next 5xXP is in a month or so

[magic pilot]

you wanna hop in dz with me rn? youll be in 1k bracket

[kindred mango]

5x in 6w

[lost wren]

i'd probably get my butt kicked but sure

gives me a chance to go for my striker obliterate

[fresh fox]

probably yea

[lost wren]

which i personally really like

[magic pilot]

depending on your blues yea

[lost wren]

this bad boy

4 blues. shouldn't be too bad

?????????????

[magic pilot]

cant say his name

because of scams, just drop the O

crypt

[lost wren]

aahhh the funny "coin" currency

[magic pilot]

yep

[lost wren]

love those

[round zinc]

is this for pvp

kinda looks like generic striker build for pve ngl minus the blue cores

[lost wren]

yeah
crypt's striker obliterate setup

@magic pilot

could i run this instead of grupo holster?

[fresh fox]

i mean you could yea

[lost wren]

would it better or would there not be much of a difference?

[fresh fox]

it would be better i think

if you make it blue then yea def

[lost wren]

wish i could

4 blues is fine but 6 blues is yummy

[fresh fox]

4b2r is just awkward to play idk what it is about it

[lost wren]

at least i'll get the extra weapon damage from fenris

[magic pilot]

^ agreed

also dz is dead rn lol

[lost wren]

rip

guess the targetted loot isn't good

[magic pilot]

we got something over here!

[onyx sage]

getting cooked over here

[magic pilot]

@fresh fox wanna come? theres a reg player

[lost wren]

yeah goodness

[fresh fox]

ooo sure

let me grab my reg

[lost wren]

i'm getting slaughtered holy

[magic pilot]

yea we gotta stay close

[lost wren]

bringing out regen bighorn now

[fresh fox]

@magic pilot was it syncing

[magic pilot]

bunch of rogue police

[fresh fox]

i loaded in and no one was anywhere...

[magic pilot]

we were rogue thats why

[fresh fox]

one sec

@magic pilot couldnt join had to leave a dz at the time

oh i found the dz south lobby again

[honest relic]

Something just shot me during a bounty... I don't know what it was.. but the whole roof i was on turned to rubble lol

[magic pilot]

i like this one with hazpro on everything

[lost wren]

could i run this instead of striker obliterate?

[magic pilot]

For sure

[lost wren]

better or worse?

[honest relic]

Sweet... Just found a momento in the open world

[lost wren]

nice

[honest relic]

First exotic ever!

Not a bad roll either. 13.4weapon, 166898 armor, skill tier

Skill haste 9.6 avg

[magic pilot]

This is better imo

[hasty sluice]

this useful?

it doesnt effect the quick use does it?

[subtle bluff]

In the right kind of build (Rare for PvE) but it is good in PvP. Good rolls keep it around.

[low narwhal]

The first part of the talent affects the quick use, but not the second part

[low narwhal]

Yhh it can be. I used to run this but not anymore. But I wouldn’t say it’s useless either

It’s a good roll

[subtle bluff]

There's tricks to this but that's for more advance builds for team play for PvE.

[strong cave]

The quick use kits are entirely why this chest piece is kinda broken. 75% chance to not use a kit, talent rearms itself every 10s I think. You get 25% armor per insta kit. On Regen builds, this chest piece is insanely good when paired with firewall. The instant kits won't be boosted but the full kit will be. Firewall has 200% armor Regen or so when you pop a kit, and Everyday carrier buffs it by twice as much or so. Bear in mind I'm remembering off the top of my head so my numbers are probably off. I hope you get the idea tho

[fresh fox]

no the rearm is just when you put it on for the first time

that’s how they prevented cheat swapping iirc

you used to be able to run whatever chest you wanted but if you needed to kit you could just swap to carrier while popping the kit for its bonuses

[magic pilot]

Chest swapping still works btw

They fixed nothing

The arming part of the talent doesn't do anything

[fresh fox]

wtf

[magic pilot]

You have to be in the same dz server for awhile to work

[cedar warren]

Last played this game over a year ago, what new builds is recommended?

This is my current striker build, but also have heartbreaker and another dps build

[covert meadow]

Guys I need help in making a Countdown build to try and get some pieces, any suggestions on what i could search for in the open world until I can get the pieces recommended?

[tulip charm]

its the same since a year ago

Well OD is very strong now

[tulip charm]

Just get into a challenging countdown run and pray. Most of the time people will carry lower shd in challenging compared to heroic( waste of time imo).

[covert meadow]

Yeah they've just been kicking me out, i have strikers but I figured something more was needed

And i usually play the challenging level

@tulip charm

[tulip charm]

just keep trying ig

[cedar warren]

Well great

[versed summit]

try and host

can't kick you out that way

[covert meadow]

@versed summit that is very true, didn't think about that.

[tulip charm]

xd

[sly gulch]

show me your 'just because' builds e.g.

[lost wren]

got this from the pvp guide, did i do this rigt?

[fresh fox]

yea

just be careful in conflict because you will need to get some more crit chance

looks good though

[lost wren]

i dunno if i'd take a striker's build into conflict lol

[fresh fox]

you could

[lost wren]

maybe, either way so many god damn status effect builds

[tulip charm]

Striker in conflict is not that good imo

[plain leaf]

yall armor or weapon dmg as the main att

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwdgtAzGAMYExgIwxbNqNoFwFYoNgQUTgA5ML1sdh4Uik4BOS17YZRWhqtyrUHUJ9eorHFqIo+ESKzJaEAGxJBXFl3KIcomPJwtYIWrrGJoDYARQlicKGOjzDcibOhA

[fresh fox]

use a ceska

and is this for pve or like pvp

[plain leaf]

pve

[fresh fox]

you don’t need all that armor

i believe in you

[plain leaf]

i thought with the bighorn giving 450% weapon dmg and umbra giving 100% crit dmg didnt need the weapon dmg from the armor

i left a link to the build if anyone has any improvments

changed the main stat to weapon dmg says 49,676,720 dmg per mag

with crit

[fresh fox]

it doesn’t give weapon damage

umbra gives crit damage and bighorn gives headshot

[plain leaf]

did they change it

am i reading it wrong....?

[fresh fox]

that’s the scoped in mode

you use the fully auto mode with bighorn because the scope mode kinda sucks

[plain leaf]

oh well ill learn to live with it

bruh scoped is fine ive seen worse

[lost wren]

for pve maybe

pvp it's really bad

[plain leaf]

which its for

pve

dont really do alot of the pvp ill make builds for that later

thx for the advice tho

[fresh fox]

forced scope isn’t that good in this game

and the stats of the rifle mode suck

ar bighorn is so much better

[sacred bear]

How do I get highest possible results damage hits?

I used to get 40+ 2 years back now I only get 18 (with a similar build)

[fresh fox]

depends on the build really

[sacred bear]

Punch drunk, gift, chainkiller/sacrifice, contractor, foxes prayer. Dodge city all rolled to HSD AND WD

[fresh fox]

oh

use achilles pulse

you will see big increase with dodge city

[sacred bear]

So THATS why I could kill legendary hunters ty

How do I aim it at their head or is it random?

[fresh fox]

random

[sacred bear]

Ok

[fresh fox]

itll choose a spot on them

[sacred bear]

Chainkiller or sacrifice?

[fresh fox]

different use cases

[sacred bear]

Solo heroic all directives except FOW and also MAYBE solo legendary summit

FOW has killed me too many times 😦

[fresh fox]

use chain killer for heroic and sac for legendary i guess

ngl i wouldnt take a high end headshot into legendary, strikers is just too strong to ignore

another thing is that you could have been fooled by dodge city/chain killer combo

after you get a dodge city kill

the stacks you get from it will be much higher

like this

[sacred bear]

This is two consecutive shots?

[fresh fox]

yea

[sacred bear]

Or not actual damage

[fresh fox]

first one is dodge city

second is buffed from headhunter

[sacred bear]

So if the 17 mil is without the DC bonus, was.that achilles?

[fresh fox]

its with dc

you arent hitting 40mil with dc without achilles

[sacred bear]

How many kills?

[fresh fox]

1

[sacred bear]

☠️ damn that's crazy

[fresh fox]

anymore kills would bring the numbers back down to normal amounts

see

[fluid sage]

What build do y'all recommend for the ravenous

[hexed steppe]

this is what i put together for rav., lifted it from another agent that was melting stuff. pretty strong but i havent had a lot of time on it, yet.
eagle grasp gloves, fox's knee

[lost wren]

@magic pilot
which of the 3 holsters should i run for this?

[fresh fox]

fenris

[lost wren]

gotcha

[lost wren]

also what's the best optimization material farm?
my current matador has all the attributes i want, but the rolls aren't good

[thick fossil]

Hello all, build advice for a returning player.
I will check out Utube! But a few questions and pointers would be much appreciated.

1. Apart from the strikers set what should I look to get?
2. What skill build sets/ items are good?
3. What specialisations are best?
4. Can I get the Lexington again as I pulled it out on a new character 😡😬 didn't know about it...
5. Is the season pass current and worthwhile?

Any other tips or things I should focus on as I haven't played in 3-4 years so it seems a lot of changes.

[solar sable]

Heya!

First of all, don't go into Division youtube. It's full of clickbait and misinformation.

1. You can take a look at the pinned spreadsheet in this channel but:
   Nego is another great option for DPS. Hotshot/1-tap is also OP.

2. Mortar and oxi for Damage or Healer. (also at the spreadsheet)

3. It's not really a matter of which is best, but what build uses or requires most. Gunner and Firewall usually are the best picks for DPS. Technician for Skill builds and Demo is often used for Mortar.

4. Unfortunately no. Hopefully it'll be available later.

5. You can get a blueprint and the weapon itself that's pretty good. Looks like it pairs with Nego but I've seen people say it doesn't work with Nego stacks...

If you aren't 40 yet, get to SHD and then focus on builds and the important stuff.

[vivid shard]

why are there so many unused skills? i know that they kinda suck but why doesnt anyone bother?

also, is there a speadsheet with every talent in the game?

[subtle bluff]

Check out the pinned comments.

[low narwhal]

They are used in the right moment. You don’t see them with like a specific build sometimes coz the build might have been designed around a gun or some other situation. Certain builds are designed around specific skills.. like there is an oxy build for incursion. But usually since we can swap to different skills mid battle, you don’t see it in build sheets per say. But you can use whatever skills you like during battle for the most effecient use of skills

[subtle bluff]

ZB covered it well. There are only a few skills that we never use, but like ZB, they're used in either specific builds and/or strats. You'll learn or try them in out.

[low narwhal]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?gid=1380412817#gid=1380412817

if you didnt find it ^

[thick fossil]

Thank you for your reply and time.

[rich lotus]

Oxidizer is not an unused skill 😭

Also don’t let this stop you from thinkig that some skills are in fact completely useless and need a rework

Like the healing trap??

[tulip charm]

Bomber drone is terrible zero vaule and it kills itself everytime

[rich lotus]

Yes that one too

[low narwhal]

where did you get that from? Coz i never said that

I never gave any examples of unused skill lol

[rich lotus]

Oh ok so you were just mentioning it mb

[low narwhal]

I wanna be like the drone pilots xD

They use it effeciently

Gotta torture one of them to find out how

unless SHD cant make it properly for shit

[low narwhal]

yaya like we have oxidiser build for incursion and other purposes

[low narwhal]

id say reinforcer is better

[rich lotus]

no way…

[low narwhal]

unreal sarcasm xD

[faint ocean]

Evening folks. Im at the point where Im on level 101 (think thats how it goes). Currently have assault rifle and LMG as my weapons and heartbreaker on 4 of items and foundy on the other two. Feels like I stagnated a bit. Wanting a chance to get the higher level AR and LMG.

Trying to see what are good build suggestions and see where I can improve and advice on how to

[solar sable]

having all your gear on gearsets is a no-no
Heartbreaker itself is already enough survivability, idk why you put foundry there...
Theres a 📌 Spreadsheet with all the info on tanky DPS, lmgs pretty much fit on any of them and Umbra is usually the best pick, then there's Striker's

[faint ocean]

I restarted on PC. I didnt get far on PS4 and put the game down for a bit.

Ill take a look at that.

[hexed steppe]

Heartbreaker , striker , nego all good dps. You'll pair either sets 4pc with 2 highend pieces. Highend gives a brand bonus and 2 attributes.
Look for replacements for foundry. One is ceska(hand and hammer logo) , the other is Grupo (GS logo).
Ceska increases crit chance, and grupo increases crit damage.
You'll want all attributes to be crit chance and crit damage.
Crit chance caps at 60% so get close to that and dump everything else into crit damage.

[ebon sapphire]

I do dz landmarks for field recon

I just craft the assessments

[lost wren]

don't have the blueprints for the assessments

[hexed steppe]

Roll through cp3 and cp4. Those give blueprints and field recon data

[faint ocean]

Good info. Switched it to 4 Strikers and 2 Groupo. CHD at 67 and CHC at 14.4 ATM.

[ebon sapphire]

One shot marksman build, run through cp3 or cp4. Personally I choose the ones with outcasts and trusons. Mostly outcasts since they don’t have helmets

Then reset control points. Rinse and repeat

[lost wren]

need to make myself a marksman build

[hexed steppe]

Change one grupo to ceska and itll bring up your chance. The chance is one of the biggest factors to your overall dps

[ebon sapphire]

You don’t really have to tbh. Yes it’s faster but it gets boring fast. Since I have multiple builds now, i switch builds depending on what faction holds the CP

[honest relic]

I just got the mantis and the sacrum imperium in my last run. Those worth building around?

[faint ocean]

Im on the hunt for a better assault rifle and LMG.

[grave wraith]

how'd you get that exotic gun?

[solar sable]

Ravenous, raid exclusive

[hexed steppe]

iron horse raid, Ravenous as mentioned

[shy willow]

Sacrum is Garbo and mantis is unfortunately outclassed these days

Mantis can be funny though free decoys

[hexed steppe]

this is how i generally setup striker and my stats for it.
a couple caveats that will see your numbers different than what i have.
my watch is maxed with full chc/chd, if not maxed youll see less chc/chd until the stats are maxed. also using elmo ar that has 15%chc and 15%chd, if you are using a regular ar youll only have the 15%chc with mods.

grupo would be in the coyote spot if i was setting up without the exotic

[maiden swift]

Genuine question, is Coyote’s Mask a better option over the exotic Centurion’s Scabbard holster?

[onyx sage]

for damage yes

[fresh fox]

no centurion is better for dps but is very annoying to maximize iirc

[molten thorn]

My setup is identical to yours (down to the weapon choices) and i have 2% less chc. I wonder what's up with that

Oh wait i know what it is nvm disregard

[honest relic]

What makes momento so good. Lile how does it work? And how is it best utilized?

[shy willow]

It has 3 cores and it's talent is very versatile

[magic pilot]

There's a more optimal setup now

https://youtu.be/zlMPJp6XpnE?si=ezNXWOn9bER7vPkg

[hexed steppe]

what changes, other than weapon choice

[magic pilot]

Basically ceska/grupo chest or gift/sacrifice

[hexed steppe]

Memento is the hardest working single piece in the game.

For me, I look at all it does. Cores and long buff only (at full stacks) represent:
-45% weapon damage
-2 shield tiers
-free armor and skill core
-30% skill damage
-30% status effects
-30% skill duration
-30% skill health
-30% skill haste
-30% skill repair
-# skill buckets™️
-3% armor regen

Short buff adds core dependent buff and are a nice bonus but dont factor in to my reasoning for usage because its inconsistent unless always cqb when killing

[magic pilot]

For striker chest setup it's still the same

[hexed steppe]

so using the he bag yields more damage?

ill have to watch the vid in a bit

[magic pilot]

With the chest yes

If no chest you want high end chest and bp

[hexed steppe]

i dont run it a lot tbf. im nego to the core 👴

[magic pilot]

Specifically glass

[magic pilot]

Fair

We need Raucey to update the Evernote

Everyone yell at him

[hexed steppe]

oh, glass because of oblit nerf

[subtle bluff]

He tells me enough to stop sucking...

[hexed steppe]

i havent been through half my builds to get things corrected

[magic pilot]

I've slowly started working on it

Me and dod were doing some team composition earlier

Interesting note about pesti is each players stacks are independent, so 4 players can tick on one npc

[shy willow]

4 man triple tick when

[magic pilot]

We were running 3 striker 1 OD

[onyx sage]

Raucey is the most hard working guide on the sheet.

[fresh fox]

ummm actually no #punchdrunkonheadshotstrikers

[onyx sage]

okay big guy write your own google docs

[fresh fox]

maybe i will.

yup.

now what..

[onyx sage]

retire bro.

[hexed steppe]

[fresh fox]

maybe..

[strong cave]

Y'all are dorks 😂

[hasty sluice]

Bluescreen vs iron lung for OD?

[solar sable]

I'd say iron lung

[subtle bluff]

Either once you have OD ammo. Use anything with Sadist.

[hasty sluice]

Carnage go brrr

[stone lark]

what third attribute would i want on bluescreen? mostly using it for the bluescreen dilemma build from the spreadsheet, which recommended DTA but i'm not too sure rn.

[subtle bluff]

For LMG IMO
ROF > CHC > DTA

[stone lark]

was mostly just going off the description recommending DTA for some kind of ND synergy, but the build was last updated in Y5 S2

[thorn grove]

Are there any Bighorn PvE builds worth giving a go? I realize it’s a headshot focused weapon, but I’m not seeing any gear sets that really reward you for that. Maybe I’m missing something?

[hexed steppe]

i would probably chc knowing its nego, unless youre pushing cap already.

the way nego works, your transfered damage is conditioned on the target, not the marks. so say you have dttooc on the build, as long as your target is out of cover that whole damage will transfer to the marks regardless of their in cover or not... with dta its a little better, it can calculate twice, as long as the target and the mark both have armor, dta will calc on the target and again when it hits the mark. is the build utilizing contractors as well?

[broken edge]

out of personal interest i did use it a lot with OD gear set and i'm still need to test it with virtuoso since it's gun that can handle both close and long range well to activate the bonus

[dark crystal]

is there a viable tanky build with good dmg? i've seen umbra with like 1.8m armour hitting 500k crits but is there anything else good for tanky dps?

[snow gazelle]

blue core heartbreaker

[magic pilot]

Just run blue striker

[low narwhal]

dont listen to them. 6 5.11 red pieces will get you through your tanky business

[subtle bluff]

HB works till you meet things this don't have a head.

[fresh fox]

chc > dta/rof

honestly it should always be crit chance unless you are doing triple tick

[chrome locust]

Hi, I'm taking a look at diminishing returns and caps. Is there a place I can go to look at caps in TD2?

[low narwhal]

dont think so

There is a cap on CHC at 60%

Cap on PFE at 80%

I think maybe thats it... but i feel there is one more

the rest are uncapped

if i remember, ill let you know xD

[chrome locust]

Sounds good, thank you

I have been wondering because I have a blue strikers build and a red one and my illogical mind perceives I am dropping enemies at a fairly similar TTK so I'm checking my sanity

[low narwhal]

#456041973636136960 message

here, when i was new, i asked about the cap on everything ^

maybe that will provide some insight xD

[chrome locust]

I'll give it a shot

[low narwhal]

okay

[onyx sage]

you have to test in hard enough content in order to see real differences

like heroic or legendary

[versed summit]

I think explosive resistance is capped as well

[chrome locust]

I have a blue core based Strikers build that I run in Heroic. I can't use it in legendary because it relies on Memento. Collecting confirmed kills would get me killed unless the team has good CC. Once my stacks are up I am wiping enemies. I think it is the combination of face tanking for stacks and the temporary buff on Memento after getting a confirmed kill. Still I traded 6 red cores so I can't help feeling the TTK should a bit worse than with my all red build. It probably is. Since no one is stating there is a cap on weapon dmg it's likely my own human misperception and the fact I have never tried to run this in legendary.

[fresh fox]

yea there’s no cap on weapon damage

the only hard cap i can think of is crit chance

[magic pilot]

Yes

[fresh fox]

and i guess explo res

#comptondidntknow

[magic pilot]

PFE, explosive resistance and crit chance

[fresh fox]

i forgot about pfe…

[low narwhal]

ahh yes. I saw in the chat i pinned also, but didnt say since i assumed he will read it xD

[subtle bluff]

Otherwise it's just the math numbers.

[glossy scarab]

i just realized you can keep putting stability mods on a weapon even after the stability bar is maxed out and it stilll improves the stability noticeabley. that white bar being full doesn't mean you can't keep getting better stability

[magic pilot]

There's only a cap on weapon sway technically

[stone lark]

the build doesn't have contractor's, no. the build's utilizing coyote's to reach 55% chc with 3 crit dmg mods whilst bluescreen has dta, it's able to bypass the cap if it's rolled with chc, though.

i'm iffy on dta because it's only 45% chc without coyote's active, could replace one of the crit dmg mods with chc, but idk.

[magic pilot]

That's a pretty solid setup, technically glass would be better but yk

[subtle bluff]

imo you should always be at 50% CHC before Coyote. There's no point of more CHD if you're not gonna Crit enough is the thought process.

[faint ocean]

This has helped btw. Thanks. Just need to get higher levels of the striker items and get higher level assault rifle and LMG.

[stone lark]

should i replace one of the mod slots for chc then, or just go for a chc attribute on the lmg?

[subtle bluff]

Replace a CHD to CHC on anything. Gear or a Skill mod

[stone lark]

i mean, is it worth keeping dta on this build specifically though?

[subtle bluff]

For DMG Idk unless I math it. Where are you gonna be using this in mostly?

[stone lark]

kinda just general use, not gonna be bringing into content like raids though

[subtle bluff]

Yeah I get it. I wouldn't sweat rolling for it. Not worth it imo. I with was better with nego there's a bunch of fun things to use with it. Shotguns are silly with pummel.

[hexed steppe]

youll want to balance your chc to where coyote buff will push it to 60%. nego's crit based transfer is always gonna perform better at max.
mainly 50chc before coyote mid range buff.
close range (smg/shotgun) you would want to be at 60% all the time, and long range you would do better with a grupo piece.

tbf, the global modifier retribution can be utilized to boost the chc up to 50% buff, and technically you could have just your 10% from the watch and have that buff it to cap. so ther is a little wiggle room in the build if that is utilized. same global modifier helps capacitor on my skill build have way better dps

[hexed steppe]

check out what was mentioned last night about the shifting meta in striker setups. it might save some farming time #td2-build-advice message

[honest relic]

How do i view the pinned spreadsheets? Im tech stupid

[subtle bluff]

Either click on his link or on top you'll see a Pin

[honest relic]

Ty

[honest relic]

Keener is messing me up

[scarlet rampart]

any tips for my current setup? wanted to be able to help more on team contents, and survive more in solo
also, how do people get blue colored striker's gear?

[restive dome]

You roll the weapon core to an armor core, so you need to farm for an item with your desired 2nd stat

[hexed steppe]

youll want to utilize high end chest and bag. ideally with glass and vigilance for top damage. your highend should be ceska and grupo. you wont see 200 stacks in normal combat so striker chest is meh unless iyou are doing something with really tanky npcs. youll see your crit chance and crit damage numbers come up with that change.

oblit or spotter are safer chest talents if glass isnt your thing

[scarlet rampart]

I mean blue like this

[scarlet rampart]

so should I go strikers mask, gloves, holster and kneepads? then use different set for chest and backpack? any sets you can recommend?

[solar sable]

That's a colorblind mode.

[restive dome]

That a colour blind mode setting

[scarlet rampart]

oh I see, thank you @solar sable and @restive dome

[hexed steppe]

ceska and grupo, red marks on the image. glass/spotter/obliterate on chest, vigilance/unstoppable force on bag. vigilance doesn require kills to proc and has all damage up from

[scarlet rampart]

last question, I should only aim for Crit Chance and Crit damage stats right?

[hexed steppe]

yeah, most dps will be crit rolls, youll want to get close to 60%crit chance and dump the rest into crit damage. there are some headshot dps builds that would focus headshot damage

[night abyss]

Hey guys (newbie here) what’s most used build for surviving on your own on legendary difficulty

[hexed steppe]

probably striker, its high damage output. basically survivability because dead npcs dont shoot back 😅 . could add some blue cores if you wanted to be a little tankier.

im sure @onyx sage has some suggestions on building for legendary

[rich lotus]

infinte decoy build provides the best survivability actually 🤓

bet that rotor blade guy doesn’t know about it…

[scarlet rampart]

thank you so much for the info ❤️

[honest relic]

So i say this weird mission i never heard of... It said incursion.... Figured id try ut ...My one shot build was not so... "One-shotty"

[fresh fox]

yea it’s meant for 4 people

[magic pilot]

We don't talk about the solo runs...

[low narwhal]

but they exist

i wonder what would be good for solo run tho. HH HF white like m870 and white death?

all red cores rolled to CHC and CHD?

maybe with regulus and bulwark shield also

and reviver i guess so you dont die xD

[magic pilot]

I'm pretty sure they striker through the whole thing

Don't quote me

[vestal ibex]

Solo incursion is a mix of builds really.

[zenith bone]

Hello

[vestal ibex]

Usually striker and then some PFE tank with BLB and DCH for wright.

[low narwhal]

ahh i see.

whats BLB, DCH? xD

[vestal ibex]

Depends on how fast you wanna go tho. Some have done it in 20 some minutes where most do it in an hour or so.

[low narwhal]

hello!

[vestal ibex]

Busy lil bee, dodge city holster.

[zenith bone]

Thank you 👍

[low narwhal]

ooo yhh truu sayy that would be a solid combo tbh

[zenith bone]

Can i post my gameplay here??

[low narwhal]

you need help with something or just for fun?

[zenith bone]

Help

[low narwhal]

tbf i dont think you can either way

[zenith bone]

I'm a new youtube creator..

[zenith bone]

I want to show my gameplay

[low narwhal]

oo wait you can

maybe .. that was just a file upload

so idk if video works the same way lol

[zenith bone]

https://youtube.com/@ps5playguru?si=-QN5FSt70qeG-bf3

Links work??

[low narwhal]

yhh ofc

its text

[low narwhal]

im not an expert in being a youtube creator xD

only know bits and pieces of division 2

[zenith bone]

Will you check out my gameplay??

[magic pilot]

No self promo here btw

[low narwhal]

only if you need help w particular mission or its a bug, otherwise i already know what the game does

[zenith bone]

Will you subscribe??

[low narwhal]

yhh rule 4

[zenith bone]

Ohh sorry

[vestal ibex]

#td2-general-chat message

Read what were were talking about here.

[magic pilot]

It's kind of annoying but that's how it is

Just have a friend post it and say "how does this guys build look" lmao

[vestal ibex]

Eh just post relevant thing to the topic.

[low narwhal]

i mean they could make a separate channel for it

otherwise it just be annoying to post it on general

[vestal ibex]

It's easier to not have it.

Cause then it'll spread and leak around to other channels and require more moderation.

Most the time posting relevant topic videos, like for instance if I posted a solo incursion video of myself to give you an idea of how you'd do it then I don't think the mods would care.

[low narwhal]

i guess

[low narwhal]

truu sayy

[low narwhal]

you did one?

how long did it take?

and did you do it with the above build you suggested?

[magic pilot]

Souless won't say it but he has over 1,000 imcursion clears. Not counting restarts

Wouldn't be suprised if he was blindfolded for a run

[low narwhal]

damnn xD he knows the drill v well! quite cool!

[vestal ibex]

I haven't done a solo run, I probably never will as I don't really solo play the game, I have done a bunch of duo runs in the incursion tho.

This is the fastest solo run to date.

This was the first solo incursion done in the game tho.

[low narwhal]

damnn crazy runss

watched the first video. very efficient. Guy was only hitting headshots if he had st elmos

and no reviver- he had the confidence for thiss

[vestal ibex]

Reviver is for people who expect to go down or don't wanna revive team mates. Tons don't run it.

Better off taking a utility skill and staying alive with it.

[low narwhal]

truu sayy

build and combat knowledge alone should be good enough to stay alive

especially we know what to expect half the time

[honest relic]

I wonder how much damage i would have to do to solo it

I have a perfect white death

[shy willow]

Don't bother sniping in anything involving a DPS check

Better to just unload with striker

[honest relic]

Ive been speccing for rifle (1886) and marksman. Right now its hitting for 10mil with rifle and 15mill fornthe white death. But im specced into skill tier. If i switched it all to weapon damage... Would jt be high enough I wonder

All with determined and headhunter

[honest relic]

I see

Granted headhunter and determined wouldn't do any good if I can't get enough damage to oneshot through the armor

And if they have helmets, im just blowing my wad for nothing

[shy willow]

You can technically one shot bosses with some setup but it depends on encounter

Incursion bosses are health gated iirc

[vestal ibex]

Can't really one shot(in the sense of 1 singlular shot) pretty much any of the incursion bosses.

[honest relic]

So at min, a two man team. One to burn armor, and then i pop the shot in close with the 1886 and 'kill steal'. Team would have to fire on all cylinders though.

[vestal ibex]

If you came into an incursion saying you'll one shot all the enemies I'd honestly just ignore you and treat it like a 3 man run.

What you are suggesting just doesn't work that well and it's more pain than gain.

[honest relic]

Understood. Ive seen a bunch if solo runs on YouTube.. after my.. encounter.. and yeah.. none if them sniped.. atleast not the whole time. Generally swapped in and out of certain builds

[vestal ibex]

Even in 4 man speed runs we run pistol HH on turrets and swap to strikers for the rest of the run. HH on tanker is just not faster and I've never seen a team do it quicker than our fastest tankers.

[onyx sage]

stacking up to full HH takes more time than just killing yeah

the reason it's faster in something like legendary is because spawns only come out of a few doors at a time and we can spare 1 person to foam, when in tanker everyone must be dps to cover a door, and then there are drones which you can mess up very heavily on if you only have HH

[vestal ibex]

Not to mention all the chungas that spawn.

[honest relic]

Lol i believe you. I lasted about 10sec. Ill keep trying just to see how far i can get. I had no idea what i was walking into lol. That was 4am. I never slept. This game is becoming a problem lol

[vestal ibex]

Have you done the incursion normally with a full team?

[honest relic]

Nope. Im just coming back to the game. Haven't played since launch. I booted up a week ago and my character was level 27 lol. Ive burned through the story content, leveled to 40. 92 on watch. Geared up for how i like to play. Was a bout to check out the legacy man hunts and saw the shiney incursion lol

[low narwhal]

you should really play other content than try play incursion

it will be a waste of time

no gain, no gear, nothing

you can try solo once you understand the mechanics of your build

and even the mechanics of the bosses you will face

Coz he is literally immune unless you do a specific mechanic

which you cant figure out in the heat of the moment

thats assuming you figure out the first phase

which is also somewhat hidden but i guess maybe not too hard to figure out

[onyx sage]

just don't do it solo, it's literally meant to be group content. even legendary you can try to solo and it's arguably easier in that you just need to kill everything

[honest relic]

Good to know. I been mostly breezing through heroic, but I do get into snafus for sure. My expertise is..1... Lol

[vestal ibex]

Well I could see about a teaching incursion after our runs tonight if you want. I do have like 9 keys for the box.

[low narwhal]

you should upgrade that. But good to hear heroic is easy. will make the game easier

[honest relic]

Some level 5000 jumped into my game the other day. Offered to "carry me" to level... He was not much help lol

[vestal ibex]

tbf SHD just shows how long you've played.

[honest relic]

Right now the big armored guys are two shots as long as i got a red or purple mob around to pop first. Though im reaching the point where im gonna have to stop the hybrid build and lean all in on damage, if I want to keep the one shotting.

[vestal ibex]

Bro needs a regulus.

[honest relic]

Ive bugged a few story missions out with the headhunter determined. The atv fight i had to reload 3x before i realized what was happening

[honest relic]

Eh..

Me or the other guy?

[vestal ibex]

You.

Unless you are stuck on determined and can't aim then I'd say nvm.

[rich lotus]

New to the game and already on Determined 🙏 let's go!

WWWWWWWWW

[onyx sage]

this guy

gatekeeping aiming

[rich lotus]

so true

[honest relic]

I like the sound. Tell me more. I keep aiming for heads even with the determined. Though its making me a lazy shot. I didn't know about the combo till a couple days ago

Or am i getting suckered lol

[onyx sage]

he's basically saying you can't run determined everywhere and if you get stuck on having determined you won't have a good time when you're forced to play without it

which i 100% agree btw

[honest relic]

I can see that being the case. Like i said. I ground 80% of what if done in the last week without it .. with controller on pc lol

[rich lotus]

This game has been in shambles since Determined was released. Every night I make a prayer next to my bed that it gets patched

[onyx sage]

🙏

[vestal ibex]

I think everyone should just put on determined and we can let the devs wonder why everyone calls 90% of the content too easy while they look at near 100% HS hits.

[onyx sage]

isac bot: cheater detected

[honest relic]

I keep feeling like it actually plays as intended on the harder stuff since the helmets eat the first shot. So you still have to pull off the follow up shot. But yeah. Makes anything under heroic a breeze

[rich lotus]

determined and "intended" have a long history let me tell you that

at some point it did work as "intended"

and it was fine, it was great! it was balanced.....

[onyx sage]

perfect intended

[honest relic]

So anyway... Whats this regulous?

[rich lotus]

the only gun you will ever need to use in this game

[onyx sage]

the pistol that makes this happen

[honest relic]

You monster!

Replace my sniper with a pistol?! For shame... Even if it fires nukes lol

[rich lotus]

nah he's lowkey triggerbotting dont trust what this guy posts

[onyx sage]

but yeah it is completely incompatible with determined

[honest relic]

Lol

[onyx sage]

i know you have 200 clips stashed on your ssd

[rich lotus]

of you being sus? yes I do

I'm waiting to compile it all into one big report

[onyx sage]

🛏️

[honest relic]

You guys are great. Im dying at work. Nothing to do till next year.

[magic pilot]

I've seen the legendary runs with determined, trust me it makes all content a breeze. Especially in the hands of the already amazing speedrunners

[honest relic]

Easily possible. My only limitation right now is im in love with the tactician drone and the decoy. So I need skill tier to make it work. I shout test out dropping 3 skill tier for weapon skill and running future perfect instead of determined. But then the drone isnt as useful as an opener. I could also do turret and pulse build and use insyc. But then I gotta shoot what the turret shoots I think. But thats an extra 36% (ithink) skill and weapon damage. Still have head hunter.

I have noticed some strange damage numbers with determined/headhunter. First shot lower damage for obvious reasons. Second shot is sometimes my max headshot damage and sometimes its a weird number in between my max and base. The by the third shot, everything normalizes

That tells me for sure.. that wither i have some other synergy going on I don't understand... Or there is a bug

[onyx sage]

there's a lot of complexities in hh damage

shooting helmets for example doesn't factor in hsd

[empty trout]

can someone give me a cool super high dmg rifle/MMR build? please? the google spreadsheet is not helping because some links don't work and some builds are old. a build with the very strong rifle that reloads super fast

[fresh fox]

the spreadsheet should be working perfectly fine?

[empty trout]

Y5S2

[onyx sage]

yeah it doesn't change cuz nothing has changed

[fresh fox]

if it ain’t broke don’t fix it

[honest relic]

Seems fine to me

[empty trout]

Explosive DPS build has a imgur link that has nothing in it

[summer harbor]

Need an ar but what can I change to make dps better but still be tanks

[ocean ingot]

If your survival is good you can run 2 more red cores on the gear. This looks very similar to ikia's all red hb build

[onyx sage]

wrong talent and roll on backpack, should be vigilance

[summer harbor]

I’m tryna get vigilance on countdown now, I’ll grind for hb back pack to have a red core on and gloves for red core

[onyx sage]

you don't need hb backpack

let's get that out the way first

[patent fossil]

if you have EB, it gives a huge amount of tankiness when the talent is active, lets you run more red cores without giving up much damage

[summer harbor]

Can u send a photo of a build then I can kinda copy it will be easier

What’s EVEN

Eb*

[patent fossil]

eagle bearer

[summer harbor]

That a gun?

[vestal ibex]

It a gun gun

[patent fossil]

exotic AR, locked to dark hours raid or DZ if you're very lucky

[summer harbor]

What gun ar or smg

[vestal ibex]

But it's a bit raid or impossible DZ drop locked.

[summer harbor]

Ahhh I see damnnn

[vestal ibex]

EB is an AR.

[summer harbor]

I’ll run dz later for that

[vestal ibex]

Pls don't

[onyx sage]

forget about it

[patent fossil]

like 'win the lottery' levels of lucky, in the DZ

[onyx sage]

if you don't have it just run something else

[summer harbor]

I run dz a lot in division 2 on my old console

Ahhh so it’s a 1% chance hahaha

[onyx sage]

no, less

[patent fossil]

not even close

[summer harbor]

Jesus impossible then lol

[onyx sage]

so forget about it

[summer harbor]

Yep absolutely

I’ll grind to get good stats on an ar

[vestal ibex]

Kingbreaker is an ez one tho.

[patent fossil]

no other single item gives anywhere close to the same levels of tankiness, however

[onyx sage]

a gun with flatline and you can attach the tech pointer is all you need

[summer harbor]

Yeah I have that done

[vestal ibex]

Guessing you didn't get a lexington?

[summer harbor]

Mines capped at 30 for some reason

[vestal ibex]

Logged in on a level 30 character rip

[summer harbor]

Yep rip

[ocean ingot]

Always a police m4 or something

[honest relic]

So... Nemesis

Worth it for a one shot?

Or too slow?

[onyx sage]

you only use it in beginning of fights or some speedruns

it's not your main gun

[magic pilot]

I've never even heard of an explosive dps build

[honest relic]

Seemed slow in the vids i saw. Also not much diff then the tac 50

[magic pilot]

You basically use it to start HH stacks

[vestal ibex]

Nem is great but it requires a lot of skill to be used all the time, mostly used to get full stacks off a first shot.

[magic pilot]

Also bighorn, EB and ravenous are a 0.0024% drop chance in dz

[onyx sage]

tac50 on the other hand is fast but is limited ammo and you don't really use it on bosses

[honest relic]

I usually only use it to bust armor

[onyx sage]

you can do it with a normal mmr

a full stack white death can bust chunga helmets

[vestal ibex]

On a proper build

[onyx sage]

yeah, so no skill hybrids

[honest relic]

Absolutely... There are some extra big chunga's that that slow me down a bit

[honest relic]

If i went all in on the damage. What skills would be worth messing with with such low skill tier? Sticky?

[onyx sage]

decoy, sticky, tactician drone

lots of skills are viable at tier 0, but they're mostly utility skills

[honest relic]

So kinda how im already running... Ill test out tonight.. i gotta keep myself awake to get back on proper sleep schedule lol

My white death is perfect on all stats.. however perfect damage out of cover or to armor would be nice. I should grind for mr in countdown tonight

[honest relic]

How does the lower threat effect the decoy performance?

[onyx sage]

it has a lower effective radius and you will regain aggro after less kills

[honest relic]

Ahh. Yeah at tier 6 im a ghost.

[sand scroll]

Anyone have any advice on how to make this build better?

[versed summit]

probably more blue tbh

[sand scroll]

I can do that. How many you think?

[versed summit]

6 tbh. catharsis benefits from the extra blues

as in you can take more damage

[sand scroll]

Ahhh okay. Let me change that. Thank you

Hell yeah

[sand scroll]

This is honestly my fav PVP build so far. May I ask which PVP build you use if in DZ?

[versed summit]

It depends, but typically just High End AR or SMG

I do have a couple syscor builds tho

[faint ocean]

Made some changes to my build based on some good feedback in here. Just need better weapons TBH.

[low narwhal]

you need to get rid of the yellow attribute on the striker holster

and knees. But you do know that probably xD

unless you wanna combine drone dmg w strikers?

[solar sable]

is this build from a "headshot dmg in your weapons instead of dtoc because enemies aren't out of cover" guy?

[low narwhal]

idk if having 20% skill dmg is worth it even especially since you are tier 0.

so better to just turn it in to crit striker build

and maybe decoy and drone if you really dont wanna use reviver

or riot foam (you gotta learn how to shoot them quick in case you get pushed unexpectedly)

otherwise reviver and drone/shield is good

actually shield as one skill will be a good choice since you dont ahve much health anyways

[faint ocean]

How do I get rid of it? Im a little new to the finer quirks of the game. 😂

[low narwhal]

by recalibrating the holster

click holster, then tinker. click on yellow attribute. It forces you to choose another option, and go for critical hit chance

[magic pilot]

Nah I think he's new

[faint ocean]

Never did the recab table. Im learning.

[low narwhal]

no worries! learning curve for all of us!

[vestal ibex]

#ask-td2-community message this might help you a bit then.

[hexed steppe]

We haz all the pins

[nova shoal]

ehhh long way to go

[low narwhal]

WHY ARE YOU RUNNING A CAPACITORRRRRRR

jk, but still why? xD

I really wanted to try artillery turret. forgot it exists lol xD

its lowkey fun bombing them

[nova shoal]

Yeah tbh i was using onlyu diamond back till last week

[hexed steppe]

Might be worth looking into centurian scabbard to pair with versitile bag. Cent is weapon swap based as well, right?

[fresh fox]

yes

[fiery gust]

Dude in my clan ran one last night for a legendary and was doing mega damage. Enough to keep the chungas basically stun locked. 😂

Err, stagger locked? 🤔

[hexed steppe]

Mortar is definitely a strong skill if built right

[rich cosmos]

What am I staring at

[low narwhal]

ahh did you get lexington? or maybe another AR? as of now, any AR works in your build

[low narwhal]

the path to greatness!

this is the first step!

[rich cosmos]

Still needs another 57 steps

[low narwhal]

ahh that sounds promising. maybe i try make smt with it too xD

[nova shoal]

xD

ye i used lexington

[hexed steppe]

Ez 60% skill damage for the mortar

[low narwhal]

oo i have skill dmg build. maybe i can put it into that

[hexed steppe]

You dont run cap yet?

[low narwhal]

I used rigger with Hana named back, but i havent messed around with it to make it effective in combat. I just looked at the sheets and built it and left it XD

[low narwhal]

well not yet xD

[hexed steppe]

Oh man. Get away from rigger

[light grove]

Rigger is really only going to be useful if you’re using the backpack. If you’re trying to up raw damage, there are better options.

[low narwhal]

why so? what build do you suggest?

ahh i see

[hexed steppe]

Hardwire can make some decent skill spam builds, otherwise just go highend

[fiery gust]

High end for mortar build for sure.

[hexed steppe]

There are a couple guides

[light grove]

What skills do you intend on using with this build?

[low narwhal]

yes, i should find them. Feel like i should build known builds know. I understand how the gear stuff works etc. just dont know whats effective without experimenting

[low narwhal]

striker drone and assault drone xD

w capacitor and maybe insync

i think

think i also ahve combined arms

[hexed steppe]

You're already halfway to my mortar setup if you're used to using force multiplier 😎

[low narwhal]

is force multiplier the one with combined arms talent?

I know force multiplier is Hana U

[light grove]

Oh.. so what rigger is actually built for. I see why you went for it.

The alternative tried and true for pure skill build uses 3 empress, 1 wyvern and 2 Hana u. Yeas, you used the named Hana u backpack with combined arms.

You could wave form on the holster if you want. It’s.. weird though.

[hexed steppe]

Yeah

[low narwhal]

yepp i think I used 2 piece Hana to make use of its brandset also

extra 10% skill dmg

[hexed steppe]

For mortar you at least want china light as well. Would replace the wyvern , 3emp, 2 hanna, china

As a budget build

[low narwhal]

i read it was shit, but to me it sounds good but i didnt end up using it

but it does sound it will give additional skill dps for my build

instead of 10% from hana U, ill get it 30% acrross both skills

[light grove]

Well, it’s definitely able to. You’re just going to be depending on a rotating buff to do slightly more damage on one skill instead of having consistent damage from a brand set.

[low narwhal]

is this rolled with skill dmg and skill haste?

[hexed steppe]

Its shifting all the time. For turret/drone afk its alright

[low narwhal]

I was trying for the afk build cant lie XD

but i never tested it xD

just build, maxed (idk why) and left it xD

[hexed steppe]

[dreamy valve]

Which third attribute is best for Cooler?

[light grove]

Yeah. Essentially, you could try other substats for help if you want but usually your turret and drone is doing everything for you. Keeping them up is usually ideal.

[hexed steppe]

Even my afk is overcomplicated 😂

[low narwhal]

nothing. why do you want 0 dmg gun xD

[light grove]

Rate of fire for maximum cooling velocity.

[low narwhal]

ahh okayy. I wonder what how much skill dmg percent mine differs from the mentioned skill dmg build

[hexed steppe]

Swap speed probably it for cooler

[dreamy valve]

I’m attempting to build a loadout of only event and holiday gear

[low narwhal]

wow quite cool!

[light grove]

If you’re already using a total skill damage talent chest and backpack, it’ll have a decent increase on skill damage since the brand for rigger doesn’t really have any

[low narwhal]

the chest gives it 50% skill dmg

each time i aim with it. which will be most times i guess