td2-build-advice

[fiery igloo]

i just feel like my crusader gets insta nuked what are some go to mods to go for it

[wise swallow]

yea unstoppable is good for more run and gun builds

this isnt PVP right?

[fiery igloo]

nah nah

[wise swallow]

your shield should last a fairly long time in heroic

even a tier 1 shield

[versed summit]

Mods aren’t gonna help ya. Are you running glass?

[fiery igloo]

on a full red build?

[fiery igloo]

nah obliterate

[onyx sage]

tier 0 shield is more than your effective hp btw

it's stronger than you think

[fiery igloo]

maybe i over did it the last few times haha

guess imma try vigi on my AR

[onyx sage]

pop it out when you're about to lay on something, put it away when you're done

don't turtle with it

[fiery igloo]

gotcha also uhhh is the svd viable? i kinda wanna do russian gun loadouts "for fun" but am wondering if they are even viable in endgame content. like the dread edict or a regular svd

[onyx sage]

not the best but you can have fun with it

[fiery igloo]

the regular one or the exotic one?

[versed summit]

Both ish

[fiery igloo]

how is the designated hitter for bolty builds?

[fiery igloo]

what are the talents you want on marksman rifles and or snipers?

[versed summit]

Worse than one with a damage talent or determined. The SR-1 is very good though.

[versed summit]

Determined is easy mode. Ranger or optimist are good damage options. Preservation & Future Perfect can be good for utility.

[fiery igloo]

can you just use the regular providence set for marksman rifles or would you go for different sets?

[onyx sage]

providence isn't really used for anything much in pve tbh

[fiery igloo]

i got a 3 piece providence and coyote for my ar and it works well

[onyx sage]

the problem is you don't really use the 1p in the 2 most powerful build archetypes

crit and headhunter

headshot damage is weirdly niche in pve, and if you do want headshot damage you rarely look for it in 1p providence

if you're going for the 2p and 3p providence you're better off with 1p ceska and 1p grupo

[fiery igloo]

what would the rest be filled with?

[onyx sage]

if you're running high end then yes 3p providence is top tier, but for striker or gear sets providence isn't best in slot anymore

there are guides for high end and gear set builds in the pinned guide

[fiery igloo]

for marksman now or in general?

[onyx sage]

in general

[fiery igloo]

yeah i run high end hence the providence

[onyx sage]

for marksman you want to run 3 or 4p hotshot

either way you don't run providence

[fiery igloo]

what would be a good exoitc gear piece for marksman?

[versed summit]

Not really a good one

[onyx sage]

exotic doesn't mean good fyi, because there are very few exotics considered good...

[fiery igloo]

ah i thought you usually wanna get that exotic slot used

[onyx sage]

exotics (bar very few situations) are rarely integral to a build, it usually makes the build better than alternatives but not 100% necessary

in marksman there's like 1 relevant exotic which is the dodge city holster and that doesn't even benefit a mmr directly

[tawdry raven]

i got the eagle bearer😃

[wise swallow]

close

eagle is a P416

[tawdry raven]

next ur gonna tell me elmo aint a lvoa

wait lady death uses cmmg's base stats but it didn't get the project resolve buffs...

[wise swallow]

ealge is a P416

elmo is a LVOA tho

P416 is a real gun

LVOA was a real gun

p416 probably discontinued aswell but

[shy willow]

Elmo is lvoa just uses M4 stats

[tawdry raven]

eb is a mk18

[wise swallow]

EB is not a mk18

[devout agate]

Is it better to build the eb for headshot dmg or CHD and CHC

[wise swallow]

even if for whatever reason you dont think its a P416 its definitely not a mk18

[shy willow]

CHD and CHC tbh unless you have god aim

[wise swallow]

you could argue its a M4 or some variant

its not ambi nor does it have DD marking

[tawdry raven]

im side by side comparing the eb and mk18 and its literally nearly carbon copy except the barrel

[wise swallow]

because they are both AR15's

besides the rail an LVOA is the same thing as the POF p416 and the mk18 and the M4a1

at the end of the day mk18's biggest distinction is the rail lol

small things internally change but thats irrelavent in this context

[tawdry raven]

its more the stock that i saw

[dreamy valve]

Do you guys find the f2000 a bit too unwieldly even with weapon handling?

[wise swallow]

uhh mk18s can have like a million stocks

pretty sure DD sells em with like 4 different stock options

[shy willow]

It's more inaccurate than FAMAS

[wise swallow]

no your on PC

how does that happen

[tawdry raven]

just use it til u learn the recoil

[dreamy valve]

Yeah that’s it the recoil

It kicks up

[shy willow]

Pull down

[dreamy valve]

Elmo doesn’t have that strong of a recoil, so I need to relearn the muscle memory

[tawdry raven]

elmo also has 20 weapon handling

[wise swallow]

elmo has exactly zero recoil

maybe try using it with striker exclusively for now

[tawdry raven]

does striker give it recoil cuz i swore elmo had recoil but i only play strikers

[dreamy valve]

I have it with striker yeah

[wise swallow]

fire rate increase could throw you off but itll still overall lower recoil

[dreamy valve]

I use controller for PC gaming

[wise swallow]

you should explode

[dreamy valve]

Buhyhu

[tawdry raven]

like i said just play with it til u learn the recoil control thats how i got into eagle bearer

[dreamy valve]

Is Merciless recoil still high

[shy willow]

Yes

[tawdry raven]

rifles arent worth the finger workout

[dreamy valve]

Hmmm, I’ll try out M4 and Famas again to compare

[wise swallow]

or the time to set up a totally not autoclicker

[dreamy valve]

I used to use Ravenous alot

[tawdry raven]

gotta appreciate the games that add hold fire settings for single shot guns

what stats does the lady death copy from to be so much worse than the cmmg

[shy willow]

It still uses cmmg stats but didn't get the buffs for whatever reason

[tawdry raven]

i think i get 20k more dmg than lady death tho

cmmg only got 5% dmg buff unless 5% is that crazy

yeah cmmg has over 10k base dmg that cant be 5%

[onyx sage]

i mean

lol

the 5% multiplicative translating to a 10k increase just means the base is pretty big

[tawdry raven]

40k-ish on lady death and 50k-ish on cmmg

[onyx sage]

ah yeah i see it now

do we have pre-resolve cmmg base?

it might be already bigger than lady death

lady death also has 50 less rpm

[tawdry raven]

a video from 3 years ago says 50,244

they prob slashed lady deaths base dmg cuz of the talent

but it shoulda still got the project resolve buffs honestly cuz its kinda meh

[devout agate]

Would strikers with EB be good

I was thinking strikers with a fenris chest and coyotes mask

Would that be good?

[magic pilot]

Ceska chest @devout agate

[strong cave]

I can attest that an all red strikers EB build works beautifully. Dump for headshots and when tenacity is proc'd, clean the room

I find it has better survivability than a St Elmo's striker build

Plus you'll crit for way higher than st Elmo's 🤔 kinda weird but pretty cool

[strong cave]

See, with my nego rav build, I'm tempted to run a macros so I don't have to constantly click click click. One of my raid buddies does it so it's easier to get the stacks but I have heard that in pvp and PvE you can get banned for it. He hasn't been banned due to the fact everyone he plays with is okay he does that. He won't run one on pvp bc it doesn't seem fair to do so

I don't wanna chance getting banned so I don't run one

[hearty timber]

any good secondary with this?

Im using Cabaret smg as secondary atm

[versed summit]

Swap Chain is a pretty good one.

[dull ermine]

Banshee strained / vector fast hands or unwavering + swap chain

[hexed steppe]

Depends on the build.
Personally I always have an m1a cqb paired with elmo. Nego, highend, striker... I also use elmo as the backup on mmr/ hotshot builds

[strong cave]

@hearty timber I second this. I used to hate on swap chain bc I thought the talent was dog shyte. Damn was I dead wrong. You could use a normal MP7 with strained on it, optimist works well. Fast hands too works

St Elmo's is all around a really good AR for borderline any build (except ongoing Directive or skill builds)

[devout agate]

For pvp

[strong cave]

Ah no in that case I wouldn't go strikers. I mean, you can if you're gonna be doing landmarks in dz

If you want I can come up with a build that will work in conflict and dz

[stiff jasper]

Strike become good inseparable with ouro

[strong cave]

I've found strikers is good but getting the stacks is a rough journey. Basically I'm shooting rat poop until I hit max stacks, then I'm doing serious damage

I found better use of it in dark zone

[hearty timber]

Hm

[devout agate]

That’s why I thought I could use rock n roll and put increase fire rate on it

So I can build stacks wayyy faster than usual

[stiff jasper]

Ouro have nice dps and high rpm, allow striker dealing damage and stacking at same time, but not stack with aa12 first

[strong cave]

Well where are you even gonna use this pvp striker build at?

[tepid trout]

Strikers doesn't have to be pvp

[stiff jasper]

Also the changes of medkit also help striker stronger, since striker lacking of sustain/survivability

[tepid trout]

Hai naval

[shy willow]

Heya

[strong cave]

They said they want a striker pvp build lmao

With eagle bearer

[shy willow]

Striker is pretty good in PvP afaik

[stiff jasper]

I had mentioned why striker good in pvp nowadays

[strong cave]

It's decent if you can get the stacks. I dislike how you have to maintain the stacks to keep the damage. Most the time when I run my striker pvp build I get overpowered by those who just run high end builds

Then again, my striker pvp build ain't maxed out just yet, will be eventually

[shy willow]

Someone on the other server shared this might be worth trying

[strong cave]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/EwDgtMYAwbP9RDnQFwBYaQMxgIywCc4KpSaeAbLLpDieWcquLlox02sIWG-p0GlUPPokhdJ3AOwx0+KvkLU8haUvCrew7NXmV5AVkS6w07YxHpceY9WN5wlAoQmXpqbPuPSClC8zqeAR4kkA

I run this ^^ I could probably drop a weapon core for more armor. Damage hits hard but only when I have stacks

[shy willow]

Why gila

[strong cave]

5% little extra armor. It's best I had at the time i made the build. Negl I can't be assed to fix it 🤣

Don't get me wrong it works but... Idk. Conflict, it's straight up ass. In DZ, it hits but that's bc conflict loses watch bonuses meanwhile dz there's ads to keep stacks up

[tulip charm]

Reviver hive huh ig thats a free slot

[mossy dirge]

I made a deflector fountry amor,skill damage build with catharsis, belstone adrenaline Rush,artificer hive, liberty but not sure if it works properly

[patent fossil]

Not sure what you mean by 'works properly', but any build around the deflector shield is going to struggle compared to meta builds

[mossy dirge]

Deflector build not easy to play compared to crusader, bulwark shield?

[onyx sage]

it's completely different

[strong cave]

Deflector damage and the deflector shield is just straight up ass. You're better off running a bulwark shield using Liberty

[onyx sage]

but if you wanted to make a deflector shield build yours sound close to optimal

it's just using it is far from optimal

[mossy dirge]

Deflector reflects bullets so and damage trough enemies.

[strong cave]

Sure cool it can reflect bullets and all but the damage isn't going to be all that great

[onyx sage]

yeah but it isn't optimal is a fact

and say hello to grenades

shield go byebye

[strong cave]

I mean hey if you can get an optimal build using the deflector shield by all means let me know. But one thing I can say is that if you're not doing enough damage then having a shield that deflects bullets but doesn't do a lot of damage and the shield can easily be broken you may as well just not even use it

[mossy dirge]

I have skill damage, and armor on fountry how to use this build in a good way?

[strong cave]

Armor is great but if your damage is ass, all you are is a bullet sponge with legs

I'm talking weapon damage and skill damage

[hexed steppe]

If stuck using pistol with deflector, why not just spec into a bulwark shield and free up some attributes for weapon damage so liberty can be main damage...

[strong cave]

^^ this

[mossy dirge]

Weapon damage and skill damage on fountry

[strong cave]

If you're looking to try a foundry build, try this one -

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwJgtAzGAMbHNG2U1yBcBWTr54ioWOERgcZAuACw6lprpRSwkP2nrUBsY1sUNh3ZJ0oSqxHDC6EBACcfMPIAccbOoDs63sExrOIaLGrLTao3ygqDjENSh6zYHMDXd48oaMxNFm83BNRU4IXm4cTXhuW0IgA

[hexed steppe]

I have a high end build I use with regulus , tier 4 bulwark/tier 3 artificer while still 6red cores and it's like 12mil shield with 58% skill repair on the artificer. Shit doesnt go down without a ton of incoming fire

[strong cave]

^^ this build would've been my next suggestion

[hexed steppe]

Shield starts at around 10mil cold, then memento stacks it to 12mil as trophy are gathered

[strong cave]

Haven't seen a Memento variant of that build 🤔 but that's a really good one

[hexed steppe]

I like it. I think hhhf hits a bit harder but I kinda like having a bit of a safety net with the bulwark. I'm not the best with regulus 💯

[mossy dirge]

I have fountry crit damage, armor, artificer hive, deflector, catharsis, adrenaline Rush backpack Liberty weapon build, sound a bit better than armor, skill damage?

[strong cave]

Is it going to sound really stupid but I'm a big ninja bike advocator on specific builds, how would ninja bike slot into that one?

I'm thinking only in terms of Walker and Harris giving that weapon damage and damage to armor

I'm not sure what the other attributes will give but I know you can possibly boost that shield up just a little bit further using ninja bike because picaros will grant an extra skill tear

[hexed steppe]

Not as well. With memento you can count on 30-60 wd on top of the core. Plus the skill efficiency and regen make a huge difference

[strong cave]

Obviously in this case I would choose Memento route but I wonder if ninja bike would even work with it

[strong cave]

Yeah you're right, the amp damage at the end of your stacks would be much higher than ninja bike granting higher shield health

[hexed steppe]

It probably wouldn't be horrible but it would be a couple mil less damage

[strong cave]

A couple million less damage is huge

[hexed steppe]

With ninja you would end up with another shield and artificer tier and extra dta from wh 2pc

[onyx sage]

it's not amp damage fyi

[strong cave]

Yeah that trade-off is so not worth it just keep Memento LMAO

[onyx sage]

neither is it "at the end" of any formula

[strong cave]

Whatever it is idrk and idrc I'm just questioning LMAO

[shy willow]

memento is just base damage iirc

[onyx sage]

just don't refer to bonuses being strong because it's near the end of a formula

[strong cave]

Collect stacks, gives more damage per trophy and bonus armor

[onyx sage]

it's just really dumb

[strong cave]

Basically what I was trying to say

[onyx sage]

"damn, that 1 is really strong in 3×2×1" is what many youtubers say and i don't want more people to say ridiculable stuff like this

[strong cave]

Who even says stuff like that

[onyx sage]

it's just basically them saying fox and contractor are strong because they're "at the end of the equation" right

when the formula doesn't care which order you multiply or add stuff in

[shy willow]

isnt it just to do with it being another multiplier

[onyx sage]

yeah it's just a small rant i have. sorry and carry on

[strong cave]

Only time those 2 pieces are ever strong is on high end builds

[shy willow]

understandable

[strong cave]

I run fox/contractors on my spotter build

[shy willow]

youtube is brain rot

[strong cave]

Never anywhere else

[strong cave]

I like watching build videos just to at least see what kind of different play styles there are but I usually make my own builds

[shy willow]

ive been checking hutchlers catalogue lately and he's been cool

[onyx sage]

"we use forge here so we get the whopping 20% INCOMING REPAIRS, 50% SHIELD HEALTH and a free SKILL TIER so you and your shield get AMPLIFIED healing"

how's this for brain rot

[strong cave]

Hutchler is a knowledgeable creator I enjoy watching. I sometimes watch DJ Tickle

[shy willow]

🤮

[hexed steppe]

I kinda cant stand div2 tubers anymore, at least for builds. It's usually a bunch of shit. Plus they all pretty condescending...
Speed runs and stuff are cool ig.

Im good at coming up with my own shit builds

[strong cave]

If I need a shit build I'll usually just inspect the level 20 newbie

[shy willow]

most of their audience is probably super casual so they don't know better tbh

idk how else theyd be this popular

[strong cave]

Yeah can't make fun of em for that. I was there at one point

Oh you meant the content creators LMAO

[hexed steppe]

They usually have better builds than the 8k shd

[shy willow]

I can never tell if they're extremely bored or just very bad

[strong cave]

OOF 🤣

[strong cave]

I saw on YouTube these duos running around in the dark zone with purple gear and they're actually doing pretty good

They're high level players with the only reason they went with purple gears because they're just insanely bored and they needed a challenge

[hexed steppe]

Usually it's just for gaming the algorithm. Regardless of how bad the new gear is in a season. Its gonna be heavily searched in beginning of the season.
Also if something is purposely wrong there always gonna be a bunch of people that feel compelled to correct the tuber and show their superiority

All help boost the video

[shy willow]

I can already smell the Acosta kneepads with lady death build videos

INSANE MOVEMENT SPEED

(it doesn't stack)

[strong cave]

Wait for real 😭 please tell me this ain't true

[hexed steppe]

It's even better if they make such bad claims that another tuber posts a response. Probably why kvd has an audience

[strong cave]

That's if you can even make it thru the 30m explanations

[shy willow]

unfortunately is

[strong cave]

Nah man I was soo looking to try that 😭😭 you killed my hope

[shy willow]

free algorithm blessing just post a video and say outrageous things like ninjabike is the best exotic

[onyx sage]

ninjabike with 5p improvised for extra pfe

[hexed steppe]

Bulletking + ninja knee! Unlock GODMODE, dominate the dz!

[strong cave]

Bruh tf kinda use is Ninja on a build like that 🗿

[hazy steeple]

You can edit that to say "ninja on a build". At all.

[onyx sage]

lol

[strong cave]

Lol I was in KVD server but magically it's not there anymore 🤡

I wonder why

[shy willow]

this new umbra model 700 build shreds! put more rounds downrange than an ouroboros!

[strong cave]

Make sure it has rate of fire attribute and uses rugged gauntlets, its key to the build

[dreamy valve]

I’m using a similar style of play

[onyx sage]

HHF... hmmmm

[urban latch]

That's a lot of red cores for you

[dreamy valve]

I went the optimist route like you said last week with tech spec. It had similar results, but you could use a different skill

[onyx sage]

yeah it's pretty good

[devout agate]

Dz and conflict

[lilac rampart]

Umm guys what pieces of armor would I need for a regulus build

the gift the sacrifice dodge city punch drunk contractors?

is this the right one?

[shy willow]

depends which one you want

some variations have dodge, some hunters fury, some high end

[hexed steppe]

punch drunk, chain killer, contractors, foxes for sure if going the high end route. could do gift (or non named vigilance) and dch as well

[lilac rampart]

Oh hi local! wdym by dch??

[hexed steppe]

dodge city

[magic pilot]

Dodge city holster

[lilac rampart]

Ok thank youuu guys!!

[devout spoke]

anyone know the d2 meta dark zone solo build?

[urban latch]

Give this a look

[magic pilot]

Smg, AR crit or AR hsd?

[strong cave]

Cheats

[devout spoke]

why do people go firewall in pvp?

im looking at the tree confused rn i dont get it

[fresh grove]

Mainly for the medkit iirc, haven’t used firewall for pvp as I mainly go with gunner for the medkit that gives bonus armor

[wise swallow]

The medkit is the best healing skill in the game by a long shot

[ancient crescent]

any skill build tips for legendary missions? i have decent build and i can run heroic with 4 directives no problem but my drone was pretty much useless on the legendary and i kept switching my skill slot since i couldnt figure out whats the best turret was doing fine-ish

[real blade]

At last got it from the key!!! So i just need to optimize the attributes right?

[vestal ibex]

The ideal weapons have DTTOOC on them as the third attribute. I'd start with reconfiguring it untill that's your third attribute then optimize it from there.

[real blade]

How do I reconfigure?

This one?

[vestal ibex]

You need to talk to the blue print girl in the whitehouse, then go to your crafting bench and reconfigure it.

What that does is drop it like it's a new exotic and your third attribute will be random, although you will keep any expertise levels you've put on the weapon.

[real blade]

Okay noted! But what is DTTOOC?

Ah damage the target out of cover

[vestal ibex]

Yur

[real blade]

So i need to reconfigure when i get damage to armor?

Ah okay, just got 10% for DTTOC and 21% CHC

Thank you

[hollow prism]

if I put my chd attributes on kneepads with a value of 12%
can I increase that value in future?

[vestal ibex]

You can recalibrate a line over and over as long as you don't optimize it.

[devout spoke]

Why not just run max armor regen build ?

[wise swallow]

you do lol you run both firewall spec and regen if thats what you want
even max possible regen is so much slower then a firewall pop

[real blade]

Guys how do i get this part?

From optimization cache?

[vestal ibex]

That's hyenas tactical assessment. You get them from killing named hyenas or crafting them.

[real blade]

Ah i can craft it?

[vestal ibex]

If you've got the blueprint.

[real blade]

Damn I don’t have the blueprint.

So if i replay the hyenas mission like killing the coyotes, can i get it from that mission?

[hexed steppe]

Better start busting out level 3 + controlpoints to get the optimization blueprints

Added bonus, it's also a top method of shd farming

[real blade]

Alright thanks! @hexed steppe

[real blade]

Guys what’s the best AR for striker build.

Already use Ouroboros for my smg, and i want to run it with ar

[hexed steppe]

Famas or f2000 probably

[real blade]

Alright thank you!

[lean raft]

Big horn

[woven oak]

What can go best for tank build with Ouroboros?

[hexed steppe]

maybe blue strikers. tank builds like foundry are really meh outside of a few roles

[strong cave]

^ what he said @woven oak

Also, was scrolling on YouTube and this guy made a combat medic build.... Wtf is this 💀💀

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwWgTCDMKqAsA2EAGFbUfegXJCxNVQAOUQrcjXfVaVCMATgpcu2Jkte8Oyc56C2-AkLFUArM1BgJMBqjipictsGJwQm4nXF8E8TnOAB2EzBPSTHdV2TY42YM36RNkc8M1xvSO0A

That's his exact build... Wtf 💀

Says his damage is good but his numbers are everywhere. Worse than a chameleon

[woven oak]

my heart literally hurts after seeing this bullshit

wtf is wrong with him?

[strong cave]

I've made some wacky striker skill builds but oml that's next level stupid

[woven oak]

I remember combining 4 Striker and 3 Hunters

[strong cave]

Idk but what's sad is this guy is SHD 14,000+ making builds like that 💀

[woven oak]

That was dumb, but anyway better than this

[strong cave]

If I'm gonna go a striker healer build, I wouldn't go that route lemme tell you

[woven oak]

That already sounds like a brain suicide

[hexed steppe]

if its team build than red fi probably be a good option

at least itll be buffing something

[strong cave]

He ran it solo 💀💀💀

[hexed steppe]

yeah thats a special one

[strong cave]

Showed off team play as well, could barely keep himself healed he had to hide behind cover

Repair skills only 120% lol

All of 750k armor, gets shot once has to instantly hide

[hexed steppe]

probably would have done a bit better with a standard striker and memento then. solo

[strong cave]

See that's the route I woulda went 🤣

I'd go half red/half yellow on strikers and then use a future perfect weapon

[hexed steppe]

yeah same. with tech thats 40% repair skills with 0 attributes dedicated

[strong cave]

He's using a reformation RPK to boost the healing more 🤣 maybe instead of trying to make a DPS healer just do either or?

I mean my Ninjabike combat medic build is better than that 💀

[woven oak]

It's easier to get a regular skill build and insert healer skill instead of this

[strong cave]

This is by far the most braindead build I've seen and I run a lot of healer builds... This is just sad

[hexed steppe]

i need to farm out another ceska chest for one of my alts and i keep getting skill damage grupo pieces regardless of the target loot

[woven oak]

Not just sad, but depressing

[hexed steppe]

not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth but damn. coulda used them a few weeks ago

[strong cave]

Yeah I gotta get the perfect ceska piece come tomorrow to finish off my pvp hunters fury build

Weapon damage, crits, obliterate. Weapon will be swapped to blue core

I have the grupo backpack with companion already and my crits+weapon damage

[hexed steppe]

nice

[woven oak]

probably gonna farm eagle bearer soon

[strong cave]

Funny enough I got the backpack out of dark zone yesterday when grupo was targeted 🤣 as well as a full god rolled 1886 with dttoc and determined on it

Y'all don't even wanna know the amount of bullets I was sweating waiting for that extract to show up and then leave

a squad manhunt was a couple hundred feet down the road btw...

[woven oak]

main reason why I'm afraid of DZs

[strong cave]

Fun gun, hands down my favorite exotic assault rifle. I prefer it over St Elmo's. Sure, shock ammo is cool but headshot kills granting reduced incoming damage or 3 kills negates all damage... Slap that on heartbreaker and you are in legit god mode lmao

[strong cave]

Best way to get better is to make halfway decent builds AND don't be scared to die

[woven oak]

Altho it's DZ chance... like 0,045% if I remember correctly

and I don't have like enough friends or clan to go to raid every week

[strong cave]

You'd be better off getting struck by lightning or winning the lottery. I go in there just to try to get it to drop as well as go rogue/be rogue police

[woven oak]

and I'm just lazy because of problems with heart last days

[strong cave]

GCROCK discord server is a great place to run the raids quickly and efficiently. I myself host raid tours there a lot

[woven oak]

link in dms?

[strong cave]

Sure

[tulip charm]

Ngl if you need a dh run/carry corpsemaker is the one to go to

[hexed steppe]

game keeps giving me mortar gear for days 😂

[tawdry raven]

Are big horn or iron lung good? Idk what to expertise

[dull ermine]

Iron lung > bighorn

Bighorn is a situational AR, iron lungs weakness is its low mag for an LMG + suppression (talent fixes that)

Easy to fit iron lung into a build bc crit mods

[wise swallow]

depends on what your doing

[tawdry raven]

Is cc a good 3rd attribute? I did it on bullet king so it fit better on a crit build

[dull ermine]

Crit chance?

[tawdry raven]

Yeah

[dull ermine]

It’s the best thing for lmg

I like ROF but then you’ll end up like me with 2 of each (1 crit and 1 ROF) and have no inventory space lol

Crit is better

[tawdry raven]

Saw an argument for dmg to armor but 6% doesn't seem good

[dull ermine]

DTA is good the main argument against it is it doesn’t work against non armored targets

[wise swallow]

DTA is the strongest assuming all your targets have only armour which is true in PVP and nothing else

CHC is the best firerate is a close second

[tawdry raven]

Should I expertise my lvl 1 Ruthless? Might be meta with the new rifle gearset

[dull ermine]

You can’t

[wise swallow]

if you could yes

[tawdry raven]

Darn it, it might have been able to reach 1k dmg

Whelp getting crit chc cost 9 components...

[devout agate]

Is this good it’s headshot dmg build

[fair dragon]

for PvP?

[devout agate]

Yea

Is it good or no

[fair dragon]

I'm not the one to ask about PvP builds

[devout agate]

Alright

[wise swallow]

whats the point of gila

Id swap it for metador or normal walker

[tawdry flare]

I would swap for 5.11

[devout agate]

Uh

[devout agate]

What about this

[shy willow]

Health is useless

[tulip charm]

Looks like a standard pvp striker build

Man trying to drop a unbreakable ceska piece is stupid

Isn’t r&r still bugged?

[tawdry flare]

Yes I haven't played in few days though idk

Btw new feature dropped @bronze hound

[bronze hound]

Poggers

[tawdry flare]

Did you even watch it

[bronze hound]

Yes

You teleported

[tawdry flare]

That was not me

[lean raft]

Use coyotes instead of ceska

[lean raft]

Use 3 gila ( backpack Holster gloves ) Catharsis Mask, Belstone perfect efficient chest , and murakami knee pads (named item). Roll everything Headshot and armor regen. Use the bighorn with it too

You’ll have a lot of damage and survivability

Put headshot mods on your gear too

[rotund pumice]

Use headshot builds they are the best for pvp you can aim 👍

[real blade]

Guys, is there a optimal builds for ouroboros? Im running striker at the moment. With CHC 52% and CHD around 130%

[devout iris]

New feature that rogues hate: Rubber banding

[stiff jasper]

1 foam send back to checkpoint

[gentle lichen]

Not really as you will be heavily at a disadvantage in long range or when the enemy has their back facing you

Also the medkit animation when you're facing a wall has you covering your head so headshotting while they kit is also going to be hard

[lean raft]

That’s why you run booster hive and defender drone

[stiff jasper]

Have you think about booster are unrealistic of against foam

Especially low tier foam, use emp sticky dude

[lean raft]

Literally never been killed when I got foamed while running armor regen headshot build

[stiff jasper]

Ah my bad, haven't attended you are ps platform

[hearty timber]

when can i take on countdown heroic? seem like those veteran really dont like new players for some reasons

[shy willow]

Host one and then nobody can kick you

Make sure your build is good though

[hearty timber]

ye my build can do heroic mission just fine, idk about countdown though because that mode is for 8 players

[shy willow]

Striker?

[hearty timber]

yup

i tried it with a tank build before, doesnt end well

[wild lily]

just try not to die and host it

youll be fine

[hearty timber]

kind of sad that dps build is the only good option for end game content though

[wild lily]

depends really

[hearty timber]

i got a bunch of other build but more dps is just...better

healer, tank, tech

[shy willow]

DPS isn't better in every situation but ye it's the bread n butter

[hearty timber]

what's the exeption then?

[shy willow]

Raids and incursions call for support roles and specialized builds

Crowd controllers are really nice in legendaries too

[hearty timber]

those are for group gameplay right?

what about solo?

[devout iris]

What talent is the best to use on a rifle here?

[hearty timber]

maybe clutch if not exotic?

oh wait, rifle

i keep getting mix up with AR and Rifle

[devout iris]

Well I got a rifle build with yellow gear and since there are a lot of rifles I decided to see which talent is better

[hearty timber]

maybe flatline?

[devout iris]

Cause the only talent's that I know are good for rifles are boomerang, determined and lucky shot

[hearty timber]

idk tbh, rarely use rifle

[onyx sage]

solo it's pretty obvious

[neat rapids]

I recently came back to the game and I'm really lost tbh, I'm level 40 but my gear just seems so underpowered and not sure what direction to go, is there anyone who can help or a youtube video that could help me start grinding for a good build.

[onyx sage]

get striker, farm in countdown mode on challenging difficulty

[neat rapids]

Okies

Countdown mode? What's that sorry

[onyx sage]

it's a new game mode with 8 players

best for farming

[neat rapids]

Oh okay, thanks for the help :)

[sullen sun]

Can someone show me their Tardi build?

Look ok?

[stiff jasper]

Not make sense with brand Rh

And hive doesn't worth

[dull ermine]

What’s the dps difference between 5% rpm and 15% chd

[versed summit]

depends on the rest of the build. should be pretty close though

[dull ermine]

I have a bunch of LMGs that have crit chance / ROF… debating that crit chance is better bc it’s more versatile

No inventory space keeping so many lol

[versed summit]

CHC for 3 mod LMGs & Flatline LMGs, ROF for 4 mod LMGs.

[dull ermine]

Big mag ones like IWI?

With ROF on mag for 10% ROF?

[versed summit]

ROF mag is usually better on big mags

[dull ermine]

That’s a good way to think about it I guess

I have DTA LMGs as well

I’m an avid user and they serve a purpose I just wonder if I’m hoarding having say a crit chance, ROF, Dta GR9

[versed summit]

DTA isn't worth it IMO

[dull ermine]

So let’s use Williams for example on IH… it’s a straight dps check once you are done with alphabet… the DTA isn’t worth?

The only reason I’m thinking of keeping the dta ones is for negotiators

Apparently dta transfers

I also may or may not have gotten a godrolled DTA Gr9 and feel guilty about deconstructing it

[versed summit]

If you run that enough it might be worth it, but you're probably already getting DTA from Contracto's anyways.

[versed summit]

it's that it can apply twice last I checked.

[dull ermine]

Also what’s your opinion of the stoner

[versed summit]

worst lmg lol

[dull ermine]

🥲

[stiff jasper]

15% chd depends your chd chc
Rpm 5% basically = dps x 1.05, dpm mostly = dps x60 before calculated reload speed

[dull ermine]

So what I was gonna do is just run 15% chd mods on the chc lmg… coyotes will make up the 5% chc difference (I run it) otherwise run one of the mods as chc

Basically it’s just to be used on builds where nothing about the lmg or build changes

On negotiators or umbra I could run the ROF one

[stiff jasper]

If you talking about weapon mod, I would say just use chc mod

It is things about value

For example, gear mod and attributes are 12%chd or 6% chc, basically 2:1

Then get back to weapon mod, weapon mod are 5chd or 5chc, 1:1

Then use chc weapon mod have more value than chd weapon mod

[strong cave]

@rich lotus ill need a ceska piece with same attributes on it so i can roll on for armor. ofc until i get the piece, im using a memento backpack

[rich lotus]

nice nice, good luck with it!

[strong cave]

hopefully i get it decently rolled as well as soon bc i got dark zone i wanna farm

[devout agate]

I want to use the eb

[real blade]

Guys, is there a optimal builds for ouroboros? Im running striker at the moment. With CHC 52% and CHD around 130%

[devout agate]

I use sokolov ceska

Two piece sokolov

Ceska mask

Fox prayers knee pads contractors and picaros

[urban latch]

The optimal setup really depends on what exactly your doing, primarily for a striker build deciding if you'll run the striker chest or something else. Check out the striker guide in the pinned Google doc.

[real blade]

Can you send me the photo?

[vestal ibex]

The best way to put it is there is no perfect answer and it's too situational to say "this is the best" while also a ton of these setups are near 1% difference.

[real blade]

Ah i see, okay thank you.

[devout agate]

1 sec

[tulip charm]

Im pretty sure hes a newer player

and not talking about pvp

[versed summit]

I don't believe they need a Conflict build either

[real blade]

Thank you so much!

[real blade]

Btw can u explain it to me, what is this build? I never use named gears before.

[tulip charm]

Its mainly a pvp build if you dont know.

[real blade]

Ah i see Im more pve player 😂, thank you

[devout agate]

I am

Oh you meant him

Oh my fault

[tulip charm]

yeah no worries

[dim cape]

anyone got a mortar build for DZ? The one with hazpro pls

[magic pilot]

Conflict

[real blade]

Whats the best famas attributes?

[tulip charm]

Depends

pve is usually fast hands or strained

[real blade]

Ah i see

And how about core attributes?

[tulip charm]

dttoc

[real blade]

Okay thanks

[dreamy valve]

How is the ACR compared to Famas, F2000, M4, Carbine7?

Which of these do you think it competes with the most

[versed summit]

M4 & Carbine 7 are some of the worst ARs comparatively now, while F200 & FAMAS are some of the best. The ACR is a bit more in the middle of the pack for burst, but has very good sustain.

[vestal ibex]

They all close enough. Your recoil pattern preference will probably mean more in the end.

[dreamy valve]

How’s the base handling compared to F2K and Fam

[real blade]

Is there a way to upgrade exotic weapon damage?

[dreamy valve]

Yeah, expertise

After optimization and recal

[real blade]

Ah i see, so i need to have the same weapon?

[tulip charm]

Its has low recoil but the accuracy of an ak iirc

[blissful rampart]

eh well yes and no. theres a helpful quick guide on expertise system pinned in #ask-td2-community

[real blade]

Thank you!

[stiff jasper]

china light, grupo x2, wyvern, yaahl, sacrifice/contract gloves

[tulip charm]

.

[dreamy valve]

What do you guys think of the Custom PF45 pistol

Not sure why I have this in my stash in the first place might dismantle to free up more space

[real blade]

Saved, thank you

[lean raft]

I have 1 crit change attribute rolled on my striker holster btw

[devout agate]

Everything chd except holster?

[lean raft]

These are pvp builds btw

[lean raft]

Yeah, choose any striker piece to put chc and everything else chd

[devout agate]

Might have to make this ngl

[lean raft]

Or everything chd and you can put a chc mod in a mask chest or backpack

[devout agate]

It looks 🔥

[lean raft]

You can also switch it to unbreakable on the chest piece if you have it but I like to run intimidate. You burst through a lot of people

[devout agate]

This what I got

[lean raft]

Switch the mask to a grupo mask

[devout agate]

I have more dps overall with ceska mask

[lean raft]

Ceska isn’t worth having in a smg build since you have so much crit chance already

[devout agate]

I’m not max SHd

[lean raft]

Ah

[devout agate]

Yeah lol

[lean raft]

I see, once you have a high watch switch to grupo

[devout agate]

Yep

[devout agate]

It hits that hard without striker stacks?

[lean raft]

Damn you got the adrenaline rush backpack with chc and chd??

[devout agate]

Yes sir

[devout agate]

This

Does it do good damage without stacks also?

[lean raft]

Yeah because of the intimidate but even without it, the rpm makes it broken haha

[devout agate]

Why not run double sokolov instead

U get 15% chd with 2 pieces

Plus the 10% Smg dmg

[lean raft]

Grupo and sokolov is the same as two sokolov

[devout agate]

Oh yeah

U right lol

[devout agate]

Yeah I’m def gonna make this

I may need to use two pieces CHC tho

[lean raft]

What’s your watch level?

[devout agate]

Around 400 I think

[lean raft]

Once you hit 1k you’ll be good

[devout agate]

Yeah

I mean you prob hit way harder than the build says because of your expertise

[lean raft]

Do another character so when you’re leveling up your main character. You’re getting double the points

[devout agate]

Do u have a EB build by any chance

[lean raft]

Yeah

[devout agate]

I get 2x xp with two characters?

[devout agate]

Can you send it

[lean raft]

You get 2x points not XP

[devout agate]

So two levels?

[lean raft]

Points transfer over on characters when you level up

[lean raft]

Yes

[devout agate]

Yeah so basically double the xp

[lean raft]

Pretty much

[devout agate]

So 2 points per level on my main?

[devout agate]

Does it have to be 40

[lean raft]

No, I’m talking points for your watch

My bad you have to be 1k for that to work

[devout agate]

oh ok

Can you show me your EB build

[lean raft]

Yeah give me a sec

[devout agate]

Alright

[lean raft]

I’m still finding out which I like better haha

[devout agate]

Alright lol

[urban latch]

All your characters stay the same level. So when you go from 400->1000, both characters have earned those shd points to spend

[tulip charm]

Bro whats with people recommending pvp builds to newer player 😦

[devout agate]

So if I make a character rn and I’m at 400 would I get 2 points per level?

[urban latch]

If you make a second character right now that character will also be shd 400, with those shd points to spend. It's why high shd players will delete characters and rerun wony to reach 40, spend all the scavenger shd points, and repeat

[lean raft]

Are people not allowed that? Lmfao there’s new people who rather pvp than pve right away

[devout agate]

So I can’t get 2 points per level if I make a character rn

[lean raft]

This is what I can come up with right now, my friend has a better build with more headshot damage @devout agate

[devout agate]

Do you have a chd Chc build

[lean raft]

After 1k you will get two points which you can spend on materials, I didn’t realize you had to be above 1k

[lean raft]

Nah I dont, just headshot

[devout agate]

Does it hit hard

[lean raft]

Yeah because it goes through peoples unbreakable

[tulip charm]

I mean he did mention it he was more of a pve player but its whatever ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vestal ibex]

It was found out later that they were looking to improve their incursion build after getting some less than ideal advice from some random person. PVE and PVP are just such a huge contrast it's just easier to ask what's the goal of the build.

[magic pilot]

Punch drunk is pointless on that

[lean raft]

Yeah that’s why I said this is what I can can come up with right now

[magic pilot]

Providence mask

Or catharsis

[lean raft]

Catharsis is what I’m leaning more towards

[magic pilot]

Also swap off rock and roll for something else

Maybe an mmr or shotgun

M870 or DB

[lean raft]

That shotty was just there atm haha

[magic pilot]

Gotcha

[dreamy valve]

Do you guys think Banshee can compete with Backfire

[glossy scarab]

dunno but i would pick banshee either way

[gentle lichen]

Assuming 200backfire stacks?

That's a very ideal world you live in

But really no banshee will absolutely be the better choice over a weapon that actively kills you

[dull ermine]

Well there are people who recommend running strikers chest in open world

I mean virtually they’re the same thing except backfire loses all stacks way quicker

[glossy scarab]

never gonna happen but i will always advocate for backfire stacks to decay

[dull ermine]

Can you out regen backfire talent anyways? On a armor regen build

[gentle lichen]

I believe some types of bleed stop regen from working
I also believe that backfire is one of them

[wise swallow]

even if it did

max stacks would way out DPS any amount of regen

[magic pilot]

i got a lvl 34 in my conflict match

[wise swallow]

did you lose?

[magic pilot]

in it rn

hes on my team

i dont even know how he got in mid wony

[blissful rampart]

wait... acutal level 34 not SHD 34?! haha

[magic pilot]

yea lmao

[stiff jasper]

In conflict you can even meet people who don't have 30 yet

[wise swallow]

if the other teams loses id laugh

[magic pilot]

we are getting destroyed

[stiff jasper]

Conflict are completely random match, without any criteria

[stiff jasper]

If others 3 people strong enough then opponents may lose

[magic pilot]

0-6

[dreamy valve]

jD Glad's Backfire build grants bleed immunity

thats with strikers

[gentle lichen]

At the cost of crits

A lot of crits

[magic pilot]

just gotta survive to full stacks and then you dont take dmg anymore

[dreamy valve]

I thought about that too, but the ramp isnt as bad as I thought

[magic pilot]

2 ceska?

[dreamy valve]

yeah

[magic pilot]

seen it

[dreamy valve]

What was the max dmg, 1.8 mill per shot?

[magic pilot]

its pretty high

[glossy scarab]

woo shout out to me. im sure countless others have come up with that same build tho. also i dont have pics of it anymore, but i will get some next time i open up the game

[dreamy valve]

I think this was the test server right? I still reached the same amount of dmg though after a few weapon upgrades

I used Strikers backpack though

[glossy scarab]

oh i use strikers bag too. i dunno why i built that one like that. i use ceska chest and a ceska anywhere else but the bag

[devout agate]

Is this a good heal build

[glossy scarab]

the chest talent isnt doing anything for you and 5 pieces of future initiative is one too many

[devout agate]

So what piece do I replace

Can I use imperial dynasty?

[glossy scarab]

i dont suppose you have a pair of exotic btsu data gloves?

[devout agate]

Oh wait

[devout agate]

I forgot about that piece

[glossy scarab]

ok nice

one of the more popular ways to do it is like this although I don't really have an answer for how much repair skills vs skill haste you might want to use. and if you cant find "the setup" you can use an alps summit backpack with opportunistic (or safeguard if you want borderline overkill on the heals). you could also trade the FI chest for an alps chest with empathic resolve.

just make sure you know how to use the exotic gloves in conjunction with the hive in order to trigger overcharge. as well as have all the repair charges in the hive regained super fast (which is pretty much just by destroying your hive at strategically beneficial moments. hopefully your team lets you know when)

[tulip charm]

I don’t recommend using empathic resolve over btsu. OC + skill refresh is insanely strong.

[tulip charm]

Oh also whats the restore hives skill haste without btsu

[shy willow]

Idk like your haste with it minus 90 percent

[devout agate]

@wise swallow

[tulip charm]

Sounds wack lmao

[devout agate]

Got a question

I’m at 150% CHD with this build

But 49 percent Chc

Should I throw on a Chc mod or no

[shy willow]

Yes

[shy willow]

Yeah the datagloves are a big help

[devout agate]

Should I change the gloves to gruppo?

[shy willow]

No

Contractors is pretty valuable

Actually are you overcapped on crit chance

[devout agate]

I think yeah

[shy willow]

Maybe swap ceska for grupo unless conflict

Or actually just another soko piece

[devout agate]

Why

Oh crit hit chance

[shy willow]

Because overcap is a waste

[devout agate]

I’m not over if I take off ceska

[shy willow]

Is 3p sokolov crit chance or damage

[devout agate]

ChNce

[shy willow]

Oh

Maybe just swap ceska for grupo then

[tulip charm]

If its for pvp you need 60% or as close to it

[shy willow]

How much crit chance do you have w/o ceska

[devout agate]

60

[shy willow]

Oh yeah then go grupo for sure

[devout agate]

So replace contractors with gruppo

What about this

Do I change anything or am I good

@shy willow

[shy willow]

Ceska not contractors

[devout agate]

I can’t

I won’t be at 60 if I do

[shy willow]

But

Build is fine as is if you're not crazy overcapped

[devout agate]

Alright

[devout agate]

Is this good?

[devout agate]

Is this a good headshot build

[stiff jasper]

if you have blue madator is good, if no, you can also change ceska to grupo or coyote

[devout agate]

Gotcha

[stiff jasper]

can better, since you run headshot, basically you need 1 attribute only, then you can feel free to use picaro+fox+contract, unless you are mixing with something functional like hazard protection

this mindset also apply to smg, for example you run ouro, then you have at least 41%, you need 3 attribute only to stack chc

[hearty timber]

look ok?

[solar sable]

Talent ruins the whole weapon

also, SR-1 better than wd.

[hearty timber]

Idk

It just look cool

And iconic too

[hearty timber]

kind of weird when you dont melee much in this game

[tame flax]

u might no melee, but others will want to adapt and melee

[hearty timber]

how so when your enemy can reduce your armor in 3s?

[glossy scarab]

when you're up in their face they usually melee rather than shoot. of course that doesn't matter if there are other enemies spread around you who will open fire

[hearty timber]

should be good for now

[rocky rain]

There was something about automatically regenerating specialization ammo. What was that again?

[stiff jasper]

Tots

[real blade]

Guys what’s the best build for tank + ouroboros, for PVE

[flint wave]

Just run more blues

[flint wave]

blue striker

or hunters fury

[real blade]

Watched a youtuber with 2 UG, 2 belstone, grupo and memento

[flint wave]

don't watch build youtubers on div2 worst mistake of my life

[real blade]

That’s his build

[hazy steeple]

Someone hit randomise, I see.

[fresh grove]

Probably

[real blade]

So it’s either blue striker or hunters ??

[tulip charm]

yes

[hearty timber]

Heartbreaker vs striker?

[dreamy valve]

more survivability vs more dps

[devout agate]

I need some help with this

What can I replace with fenris piece

[dull ermine]

Belstone chest < fenris unbreakable

[devout agate]

I like everyday carrier

[tulip charm]

Then find yourself a fenris backpack with adrush

also emp sticky instead of striker drone imo

[wise swallow]

good enough

if its properly rolled its good

[wise swallow]

groupo

[wise swallow]

P efficient is better tbh

fenris probably out does groupo when you have that many blues

I dont know why you even need fenris

[wise swallow]

this would be the best if you set on using fenris

but I personally would just drop groupo

[devout agate]

Should I change it to fenris or just keep it like that

[neat rapids]

Question, the best way to farm striker gear, is it countdown on challenging?

[versed summit]

yep

[neat rapids]

Aight

I've only gotten one piece so far and I've ran so many 😩

[versed summit]

yeah that's what I believe Odder was saying. drop the grupo glove for a Fenris one.

[hazy steeple]

Make sure you set the Targeted Loot (TL) to Striker.
and are picking up loot of course.

[neat rapids]

How do I set targeted loot...

[hazy steeple]

either from the map or once in Countdown, open the map and hold H.

you can only set TL in Countdown and Summit.

[neat rapids]

Oh sick okay, thanks!

[devout agate]

Gotcha

[rich lotus]

Which is better? Military G36 or G36 Enhanced?

[solemn idol]

guys is the kingbreaker heartbreaker build still good? from like a year+ ago?

[flint wave]

blue striker is better

and kingbreaker is smelly

[fiery igloo]

so regarding taking part in raids do i need multiple builds or is a dps build fine?

[solar sable]

Depends on the role assigned to you. But yeah, red striker as dps is perfect for raids

[fiery igloo]

well what role would i get as a first timeer / noob in raids?

[solar sable]

DPS

don't hesitate asking how to play healer or any other role on raids if you wanna learn

[fiery igloo]

i assume all the builds in the pinned spreadsheet are still valid and uptodate?

[solar sable]

Yes

[fiery igloo]

oh will definetly do i just would like to get all the how do i say exotics and stuff so i can do whatever role really

[solar sable]

Good luck on your raids, agent

[fiery igloo]

well no group yet haha i just got my red build done did a providence one with invisible hand might try and find a group to help me clear but thanks :) any raid guides pinned here by chance i think i did ask but i forgor

[solar sable]

Yes, there's everything in the spreadsheet

[fiery igloo]

the one with the builds?

[steel mason]

Anyone one right now able to inspect me and tell my why my dmg so bad?

[shy willow]

Just screenshot your build and send it here

[onyx sage]

what are you using that in?

for solo open world it's not that bad but can do with some minor tweaks, like dropping picaro's holster and use ceska instead, ideally use ceska chest and not striker chest

for legendary or incursion it's kinda obvious why the build would give low dmg

[steel mason]

all heroic stuff

open world, incursion, missions. dmg wont go past 500 a round unless i roll busy bee

Got this build from Anytime gaming

[shy willow]

Because you're running a ton of blues

[steel mason]

I know that it wont be exactly the same, being at 300 shd lvl of course

I mean he was popping 1.5 mil a shot lol, i figured id be at least at 600 without max stacks etc etc

[shy willow]

He definitely was making it look way better than it actually is

Typical youtuber

Probably had max bee stacks

[onyx sage]

1.5mil a shot is full red or max bee

you're not getting that

and don't use this for incursion

but for solo open world this just works fine

you don't need that much dmg

[magic pilot]

Link the video

[steel mason]

Nah not that one. I stated the wrong youtuber as well, like a dummy. Its mark of bladez

[magic pilot]

Yea that's why

He likes to make his build videos showing them with buffs active

[mortal lake]

anyone know where the best place to farm for the tardigrade chest piece?

[hazy steeple]

then either Countdown or Directives will work best.```

[mortal lake]

the tutorials im watching are a bit dated, they say fighting true son missions on heroic will work best. but then again its dated.

thanks

[hearty timber]

Im crazy or reviver hive is just stupid long cooldown?

[mortal lake]

stupid long cool down i agree.

[hearty timber]

And it spend all my charge when im the one downed instead of 1 for teammate

Which took even more times to recharge

It feel like a heavy nerf compare to D1 support station

[hazy steeple]

Technically they will have a higher chance, but it's super not worth it over focusing on Targeted Loot overall.

@hearty timber Reviver Hive is kinda a funny Skill, in that the more you play the less you'll use it. Most endgame players who are not playing in dedicated groups won't even have it equipped.

[hearty timber]

True tbh

I rather use a skill that let me stay alive

Instead of waiting for this thing to recharge

[hazy steeple]

Jammer Pulse and a shield is not a bad combo, especially against BT or True Sons.

but when held out fully, the Jammer is good against any deployed skill.

[hearty timber]

Im using a medic build so maybe just seeker mine healer and shield

[hazy steeple]

heal chem will do you a lot of good for that one.

[hearty timber]

Maybe

[hazy steeple]

If you've never tried it out, take a look at the "red FI" setup. It's basically a healer build that can kill stuff.
just heal others and it heals you. There's a full guide in the spreadsheet that's 📌 pinned in this channel.

[hearty timber]

Noted

I kind of miss support station tbh

Compare to hive

[mortal lake]

you would suggest running countdown over and over for farming it?

[hearty timber]

Pretty much

Coutdown is just a farming heaven

I got pretty much all my stuff from there

[mortal lake]

im still kinda new to end game so i was a bit confused.

thought it would only drop at true sons missions at random yk

[hearty timber]

just do countdown over and over again

the rest loot you can just break down for mat or sell them

oh ye, make sure you do the 8 players one

[hexed steppe]

can farm tardi anywhere. cd and summit both have ability to change target loot. anywhere else that has chest target can possibly drop it. countdown is ideal because you kil 2 birds with one stone. you have possible drops from the npc's. you also earn countdown credits that let you buy exotic caches from the cd vendor (outside whitehouse across from the helicopter).

[hexed steppe]

i would check against library and expertise donations before breaking or selling any gear.

[devout iris]

So what weapon should I use apart from a rifle in a rifle build?

[shy willow]

What are you running

[hexed steppe]

Ar. Something like elmo or famas

ARs work well in both nego or highend

[dreamy valve]

What do you guys think of the ACR-E

Too slow?

[tulip charm]

I mean its slow if you’re used to only playing oreo and elmo and what not but I don’t mind it

[shy willow]

iirc it's a really good flatline ar

[dreamy valve]

How does it compare with Elmo

[shy willow]

comparing stuff with Elmo doesn't rlly work

[magic pilot]

Everything is better than Elmo for dmg

[hazy steeple]

Well that's just untrue.

[tulip charm]

I wouldn’t say everything but a good handful of them can out dps an elmo but elmo virtually has no recoil so it enables you to consistently hit your shots

[magic pilot]

Every single AR is better on sustained with fast hands, every AR with strained out dps Elmo

The mag dmg and and handling are the main perks now

At base for burst Elmo only beats out 3 high end ARs and chameleon with no buffs active

Ctar, carbine 7 and sig

[shy willow]

poor c7

[magic pilot]

Sig might actually lose to Elmo it's that bad

[glossy scarab]

i feel like we need a weapons graveyard to commemmorate their former greatness

[magic pilot]

Elmo loses to EB on sustained, burst and mag dmg

[shy willow]

EB validation wooo

[devout agate]

Is this any good

[tulip charm]

@magic pilot

[autumn yacht]

are you max watch?

[devout agate]

No

[autumn yacht]

i’d switch a walker piece with grupo

[devout agate]

Wb the bonus

[autumn yacht]

grupo is better

[devout agate]

I can change the mask to gruppo

[autumn yacht]

if you’re willing to change the mask grupo or coyote for sure

[shy willow]

dta is better id imagine

if anything it might be worth slotting in contractors or foxes

[autumn yacht]

he already has picaro and a non maxed watch idk if he’d get max chc with one of those too

[devout agate]

I do

[autumn yacht]

what’s your watch lvl

[devout agate]

493

[autumn yacht]

i know people on console like using carth but coyote or grupo mask would prob help the most imo

there’s people here who know the damages way more tho that could help

[magic pilot]

Build is decent, grupo knees ideally but 2 walker is ok

If you are gonna use coyotes or grupo mask run Fox

[devout agate]

So don’t use two piece walker

[autumn yacht]

yeah fox and contractor give more damage but if you need the chc it could be good since ur not max watch

i think if you’re maximizing damage coyote mask and grupo or fox knees would be best

[devout agate]

So if I need more Chc use two piece walker?

[magic pilot]

I've sent the build pics like 100 times

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1234522257880121374/1234571766211543220/IMG_2260.png?ex=665427ce&is=6652d64e&hm=e0e7b1fbfcc6a636b3d488783bc1fd795faa260f315be0604a43248749ed6d81&

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[dreamy valve]

Is there any lmg builds you would use over an AR for dps

[onyx sage]

for pve?

[dreamy valve]

Yeah

[tulip charm]

Iron Lungs, MG5, L86 and RPK are very good lmgs

[onyx sage]

the problem is practicality

on paper if you just take any AR build with crit, a LMG will just do the job better

the problem is suppressed

"what's the problem, just shoot them thru the suppression"

1. they don't take dttooc unless you have a way to force them out of suppression
2. in legendary, npcs gain infinite accuracy when suppressed; you probably don't notice that much but npcs actually do miss shots, but when they're suppressed they will laser you

[tulip charm]

Iron lungs can counter suppression via talent

[onyx sage]

it mitigates suppression but introduces another issue being the reload time

[tulip charm]

yeah

idk if banshee pulse can counter suppression aswell

[onyx sage]

it can

[tulip charm]

I see

[onyx sage]

any status that stuns will force them out of cover and suppression

disorient, shock, burn being the main 3 ways

[mortal lake]

Wow thanks!

[tulip charm]

cool to know that

[onyx sage]

oh yeah riot foam too of course

[magic pilot]

I love LMGs it's just suppression

They work great for open world, when engagements are shorter

[devout iris]

Well lucky for that my whole build is just high end gear although I should probably switch the talent focus from my provider chest piece with unbreakable or something

[hexed steppe]

If its pve you can glass or spotter as well.
For the longest time I ran highend spotter with flatline c7/m1a cqb and it never let me down.
If you like the way high end works, you should give nego a try.

Are you taking advantage of foxs and/or contractors?

[devout iris]

For the fox yes and as my rifle I was choosing in either using doctor home cause it's basically the M1A cqb or just use a normal one with the boomerang talent on it

And yes I did used to have the sacrifice on me but switched with a providence with spotter on it

[hexed steppe]

Nice

[devout iris]

And yes I also use it just for pve as well

[hexed steppe]

I usually use oblit but I main the ar most of the time so it's usually stacked when I switch for something long range

[devout iris]

Eh for me my whole build is just a coyote mask, the gift, fox, 2 other full red providence and a 1 piece grupo and all are full red core with CHD and CHC

[hexed steppe]

Does it overcap chc with coyote

[devout iris]

Well the max CHC you can have is just 60% and my CHC is just 54.4% here

But my fights are usually in medium or close range here

[hexed steppe]

Are you using handling mods on weapon

[solemn idol]

folks what do you suggest as the best general overall easy build

that lets you do a bit of everything

is the general raid DPS a good overall build?

[devout agate]

Do I go towards more crit bit chance or damage with umbra initarive

[urban latch]

yeah, thats a real solid build

[hexed steppe]

Because it should be hitting max chc and overcap 5% if running chc/chd everywhere

[solemn idol]

ok because I built the kingbreaker heartbraker build over a year ago, but not sure how it plays these days, but just want something simple to get back to it

relearning is a PITA:)

[hexed steppe]

Striker also really easy to build. Stronger than hb with an easier stacking mechanic

[solemn idol]

i just want something pretty point and click until im back into the game again

[hazy steeple]

Hunters Fury is about as point-and-click as you can get whilst still having self-heals.
just need to get close and use that shield+cover.

and the best part: no stacking.

[glossy scarab]

HF has been top tier for as long as I can remember. i hope it never changes (again)

[hexed steppe]

Striker kinda point and click as you get. No range limits and massive damage 🍻
Also stupid easy to farm for 🤔

[hazy steeple]

Yeah but if you use Strikers in LZ play everyone just thinks you're a bit of a try hard.

[hexed steppe]

Yeah no. I disagree

[hazy steeple]

Guess I found decks' LZ build :p

[hexed steppe]

Theyll be thankful you're not a carry

[magic pilot]

When did it change besides the recent nerf?

[hazy steeple]

wait, nerf?

[glossy scarab]

health bonus was cut in half

not a big deal

[hexed steppe]

I use em all
Nego or strike
Hotshot
Mortar kinda my goto unless it's a team with zero damage

[hazy steeple]

Backfire

[magic pilot]

Not a mortar fan at all

[solemn idol]

so would you chase HF strikers or the general one if you were coming back after a year

i never raided etc before

[magic pilot]

Striker

I enjoy HF more though

[hexed steppe]

Using mortar is kind of an art

[magic pilot]

Can't stand it

[hazy steeple]

Striker is better for damage and you can self-sustain a little if you go for something like Gunner with its Armour on Kill (AoK).
HF is more brainless and I use it when I'm doing GE farming.

[solemn idol]

I think i like brainless for right now lol

[devout iris]

Well for my famas it's just CHD, CHC and a +20 rounds one but the craziest I dead I had a few seconds ago is to to slap the 8x scope on my famas here

[hexed steppe]

I'm an old arma/dayz player.. I kinda miss bullets having travel time where you need to lead your target... probably why I like mortar and riot foam. Almost nothing else has travel time

[glossy scarab]

thats bc div2 guns/rounds all have a muzzle velocity of 20,000 ft/s

and get to ignore gravity

[magic pilot]

Dayz is my most played game

[hexed steppe]

Gotta appreciate when you get nailed during a full sprint and didnt hear the shot 💯

[steel mason]

Alright dudes/dudettes/flying flamingos.... I have a stryker build eith a picaros holster... it doesn't out but but a max of 500k dmg on crit.... what I do to fix this and become a blasting demon from the depths of hell that can't be stopped.

[strong cave]

Oh, you mean running simulator?

[magic pilot]

One of my favorite games of all time, if I had more free time I'd play it more

[strong cave]

Depends on your crit stats. No crit damage = no damage. No crit chance = no damage

[hexed steppe]

I did a lot of the arma 3 mods as well as stand alone. Like 12k hrs I'm arma 3

But that's my last off topic so Rivens doesnt yell at me 😅

[strong cave]

Post a photo of your actual build and your weapon stats and we might be able to help

[steel mason]

39% CHC and almost 110% CHD.

[hazy steeple]

Well that's step 1 of your problem right there.

the cap for chc is 60%, assuming you're using the Coyotes Striker combo, the cap you're likely looking for is 50%.

[strong cave]

39 is low crit chance and 110 is sad for crit damage. You typically wanna aim for 50 crit chance and then stack as much crit damage

[strong cave]

Oh

[steel mason]

I'll get on in a sec and post my stats

[strong cave]

5 blue 3 red would be the issue there. Too much armor cores. 110 CHD is low, 39 is ungodly low too

[hazy steeple]

I'm assuming this is from a youtuber?

[hexed steppe]

Change picaros to striker, add ceska obliterate to chest.

[strong cave]

I hope not bc ew 🤢

[steel mason]

Lol yes, from mark of bladez

[hexed steppe]

Both picaros and memento take away from your crit

[strong cave]

Must be scraping the bottom of the barrel this time 💀

[hazy steeple]

You can always tell. It's the use of Picaros.
okay deck you got this? I need sleep.

[strong cave]

I can help too! Sleep well

[hexed steppe]

Yeah I'm gold. Nighty night

[steel mason]

So get rid of picaros and memento?

[strong cave]

I mean, you can get away with using picaro's in this case but you'd need to drop some blues. If you really want more for better, run a ceska chest piece with obliterate

[steel mason]

Change armor cores to weapon damage cores

I'll try it out. Was looking for survivability as I'm solo mostly

[strong cave]

You'll never maintain 200 stacks with striker unless on raids or incursion or countdown

[hexed steppe]

Meta striker build is in the pinned spreadsheet attached to this channel.
You can hold onto memento if you really utilize it. You'll have lower crit stats but will still be able to improve damage

[strong cave]

Killing quicker = survivability

Memento is okay, I run a Palisades steelworks chest with my striker pieces all blue. 2 reds 5 blue is great, just need a damage talent and crit attributes

Palisades gives 10% AoK and gunner does too, giving 20 total

But, your CHC is low so ceska should be what you run. Use obliterate talent, stack CHD

My other advice is run St Elmo's, yes I know, yawn for all those reading. My only reason why is the crit mods on the guns. It'll also boost your damage