td2-build-advice

[tulip charm]

I can easily change 4/2 or 3/3

also its an mil akm

[limpid pelican]

ik just was going off of what u sent

spotter gets outgunned by 5-6 blue lengmo unbreakable so thats the only reason i said that

u gotta really go reds to make spotter worth

[tulip charm]

Oh I see

So this is how my first conflict went. I can see why people complain about skill builds

[stiff jasper]

Lot of people don't know how to against skill build, playing like csgo in div

[magic pilot]

Looks good, if you want to mid max run picaros over fox

[gentle lichen]

Military akm? Isn't the kingbreaker better?

[stiff jasper]

Personally don't recommend perfect spotter, use grupo

[tulip charm]

Granted spotter vigi is a terrible matchup granted I manage to down him twice due to him playing aggressively

Also just threw that build in like 2 minutes and threw myself into conflict

I also notice that unbreakable/rush or striker would be better for solo/against lower skilled players

[stiff jasper]

I mean use grupo spotter, not telling you don't use spotter

[tulip charm]

Yeah ik but not gonna run spotter/vigi since its very reliant on positioning and being able to maintain vigi buff

[tulip charm]

Im assuming and armor+wd would outperform the dttoc?

[serene hare]

This is pretty good to use as an outmeta build.

Probably there's a better weapon tho.

But this concept is pretty decent, at least from my point of view.

[tulip charm]

You know that is just the classic dps build

Good Ol’ Reliable

[serene hare]

But it's funny to me how well it works.

[tulip charm]

Yeah you should get regulus and dch and it’s actually really good

[serene hare]

Tomorrow will be money farming day, so I gotta sleep now instead of going until 4am grinding.

[shy willow]

At one point it was meta and still is during some raid encounters

[cyan drift]

burst fire guns make me sad

[shy willow]

Ole reliable high end builds

[serene hare]

I think they are very fun.

[shy willow]

They’re kinda ew

[limpid pelican]

any specific control point thats BIS for getting blueprints?

for efficiency purposes

[shy willow]

I hear navy plaza is good

[limpid pelican]

ah yes def one of my favs

[gentle lichen]

Also the one control point directly facing the castle

[magic pilot]

I did 181 navy clears

[magic pilot]

On mostly blue build yes

[acoustic coral]

That's perfect, awesome!

[ancient dune]

just make a copy and change values around if you want to see a different build or expertise

[acoustic coral]

Yeah, for sure, gonna cook around, learn a bit and then maybe we'll have a quick and dirty 101 on MMRs for headhunter. Thinking I'll look into a version for solo.

[grim plank]

should i use police m4/famas with scorpio with striker crit build pve?

[tepid trout]

Depends on content

Use an acs if you're close Scorpio is safe but most of the time I prefer famas

[grim plank]

i have EB, st elmo, police m4, famas, but scorpio is also really good

[real blade]

Okay so I’ve been farming gears lately. Focusing on striker. But it’s seems I’m missing something. My damage is only 200k. I use st elmo and vector. do i need to to something?

[wanton hornet]

Crit chance close to cap (60%), high crit chance, damage talent(s?) on chest and/or backpack and remember Strikers ramps up. It's not instant damage on demand.

[real blade]

Noted! I’ll try it later. And thank you

Do i need to farm until i get 15% weapon damage? on all pieces?

[versed summit]

eventually, but it's fine for most content even not maxed out.

[real blade]

Okay! Thanks

[versed summit]

how is your build laid out?

[real blade]

I’ll send the photo later

There u go @versed summit

Just let me know if i need to change something

[real blade]

Ah btw which one is better? Crit chance or crit damage?

[wanton hornet]

Chance caps at 60. Any more is a waste so get as close as you can without going over. There are enough gear pieces that you can then boost crit damage as high as you can.

[shy willow]

Make sure everything is rolled to crit chance and damage

And get an obliterate chest, if you wanna do more damage then ceska

[real blade]

Okay noted. Is there an option to see how much my critical hit chance?

[shy willow]

Scroll over to the stats menu

Top right of your screen while you're looking at your build

[real blade]

Ah okay! Thank you found it

[grim plank]

is the orrobourus good?

[versed summit]

very

[grim plank]

for which build?

[tulip charm]

Dps

[versed summit]

Hunter's Fury and Striker's are best

[urban latch]

And nego

[stoic island]

I just play it safe and use it on everything

[tawdry flare]

This people forget how amazing nego truly is

[tulip charm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[noble meadow]

Hi guys! Which high-end SMG should I use and upgrade to +25 as the secondary weapon in all-red Striker set?

St Elmo is superior but sometimes it runs out of ammo for me in legendary content. So I'd like to know which SMG is a perfect companion (and quick stack-builder) and I'll dump my hard-earned 49 components into it.

It seems like CMMG Banshee tops in the dps leaderboard after the buff in tu20 according to a youtuber's analysis video but its handling (I feel like the bullet spread is kind of weird.) and/or accessories' choices are limited.

[gentle lichen]

Cmmg banshee

[gentle lichen]

It has 4 mods you can apply on so it is pretty good in that department

Unsure if you can stick a linked laser on it but that shouldn't matter in your build

[urban latch]

Mpx is the best high end SMG, but honestly I wouldn't spend the exotic components to make one 25. The ouro + a high end AR is much better than Elmo + high end SMG

[versed summit]

you cannot. Aug is the best SMG for LLP when relevant.

[versed summit]

The Banshee is pretty great, but tbh you kinda have to run it with fast hands, the reload sucks. MP7 is a very good option as well. as a secondary Swap Chain is very solid. as far stack building goes though, nothing beats an ACS.

[versed summit]

MPX is a little lackluster now, Fast Hands MP7 and Banshee can beat an MPX w/Strained.

[urban latch]

The thing that sets it apart imo is the attachments you can put on it and the base range.

You don't need chc mods like other weapons types on smgs, and it has some unique attachment types for smgs which allows you to put on a bunch of optimal range mods on it.

It can get up to the optimal range of the FAMAS while still having more chc

[versed summit]

true, hadn't thought about it like that.

[urban latch]

@dense seal 👀

[dense seal]

Imma just copy pasta:
When Raucey and I were testing Ouroboros at range, we both came to the same conclusion.
Yeah, it can out damage X, Y, Z at 25 meters, but it can't hit anything.
20 meters was like the max of being even remotely viable. . . .
Now you are telling me that you are wanting to use an SMG at 28 meters. . . . . . . . . . . .
Oooooff

I concur with IC3SO.
Banshee Fast Hands and MP7.
Banshee is my new Go To Smg. 100% reccomend.

Also tested Handling Talents on SMG's ages ago. Stabalize (worthless) Steady Handed (good on LMG). Took note of the increase in accuracy mainly.
Came to the conclusion that if you really want to use an SMG at that sort of range you need like 380% Accuracy.

[flint wave]

outsider

[dense seal]

Doesn't do enough to compensate for SMG accuracy at 25 meters.
It feels like it because they are typically oh so bad. But try and actually consistently hit things at that range on par with what you can naturally do with a HE AR.

[noble meadow]

This might be my problem, but I feel like Ouro is not that all-round as St Elmo. I can kill 1 or 2 elites in heroic countdown with one magazine, but ouro (even with +25) cannot. I cannot handle that 1600 rpm beast if there's an enemy 10 meters away.

For me the smg is mainly used only in heroic countdown mission encounters and legendary summit (with ammo-related directives), with 4 striker(chest + bag) + 2 temporary all with protection from elites.

[flint wave]

Yes smgs do in fact have range issues

also we ar users take that 21% health damage for granted

[vocal sable]

Hey question about the trait or tuning system. If I have an item with a max attribute roll and add it to my library. And then put that attribute on another great piece. Will the trait be max? I’m completely new to this haven’t played in years so still learning lol.

[onyx sage]

yes

[vocal sable]

Yay tyvm.

[shy willow]

Of course it's not as all round but in close quarters it destroys everything insanely fast

[flint wave]

A trait that's not worth trading the versatility of an assault rifle and shock rounds for in countdown imo

[onyx sage]

if you can run ouro you can run six12

[shy willow]

Yeah i only really use it in the incursion

[tawdry flare]

Raucey called for backup

[urban latch]

Nah, he was calling me out in private lol

[tawdry flare]

Scorpio is the only all round weapon

[serene hare]

Just a impression or that special Diceros from Demolitionist is kinda strong?

[onyx sage]

not really

[tulip charm]

Most spec weapons sucks

[serene hare]

I feel like weapons like Diceros and Magnuns had more damage, Idk, around 500k.

[tulip charm]

Firewall db is cool for fire ep tho

[serene hare]

I'm not sure if I should farm Orbit.

Sidearms in this game is such a letdown.

[tulip charm]

Its not mandatory its just minimaxing

[serene hare]

The problem is that I can't find a reliable secondary to activate that XP bonus of ammo only after killing with sidearms.

I like my Prophet, but it feels like it should deal more damage.

Maybe I should have a normal Magnum with normal Determined, Idk.

[onyx sage]

d50 with determined is your best bet

[serene hare]

I hate D50's recoil

[onyx sage]

you want it for the base damage

[serene hare]

In any case, I don't have a D50, I'd be better lucky rolling a good Magnum.

[shy willow]

D50 hits hard and has bigger mag

[serene hare]

Yeah, but it's super clunky to use

[shy willow]

Good thing determined guarantees headshots if you start the chain with one

[real blade]

Guys what should i do now? I’m at SHD lvl 26. Should i focus on gear farming? Or leveling up my SHD level first?

[solar sable]

When you're farming for gear don't focus too much on leveling up shd

If you want to focus on leveling up then xp farm

[serene hare]

Shield builds are OP, indeed.

[tulip charm]

Pick a good dps build ideally Strikers and max it out if you can. A good build > High Shd.

Also make a Healer build and/or Eclipse Protocol build for easy carries.

[serene hare]

20 Magnuns made, none were really good

and I don't have Determined...

Guess I'll be forced to do Countdown for sidearms, damn.

[patent elm]

Crafting will basically never give you good rolls... Just farm a d50 with determined/dttoc

[next jolt]

is there a link to build guides that are currently up to date?

[versed summit]

The build guides in the pinned spreadsheet are up to date.

[next jolt]

thank you!

[real blade]

Okay guys thank you @tulip charm @solar sable

[grim birch]

Any cool builds with iron lung?

[wild lily]

Any suggestions? Its a DoT spread build. I was thinking is there any better backpack skill to use here to make the burn hit more?

[vestal ibex]

Electrique brand, fire chem vs stinger, capacitor. Make sure all rolls are status effects.

[wild lily]

All rolls are status effects

are there utility system mods for skill dmg?

[acoustic coral]

Iron Lung
Grupo/Ceska Chest with Obliterate
Grupo/Ceska Backpack with Wicked
4pc Ongoing Directive
Variation ideas
Note this doesn't talk about Iron Lung, but they go alright together

[wild lily]

Would "Tech Support" talent work well with this build?

[vestal ibex]

If you make just the few changes I mentioned it's the best version of the build you can really get.

Capacitor is bigger than you might expect cause it'll net you 60% skill damage when fully stacked and this build takes advantage of it because it's rolled mostly status effects.

[wild lily]

Oh right didint realize capacitor gives you skill dmg

great advice thanks!

So would this be good? Tech Support: Skill kills increase total skill damage by 25% for 20 seconds

[vestal ibex]

I'm pretty sure the firewall burn duration perk being up all the time will benefit you more in the long run but you can try it out.

I'd also suggest learning how to insta use the fire sticky and if you really wanna git gud you can use a center screen crosshair or something to line up shots while full sprint.

[wild lily]

Okay! Thanks for the advice!

[grim plank]

WHAT IS THE BEST specialist for strikers build? pve

[patent fossil]

Depends on specific details and is partly a matter of taste, but gunner would be the most popular option in general.

[versed summit]

Eclipse backpack beats out tech support.

[wild lily]

yep i figured it amplifies the dmg from my burn after i searched reddit

would it be worth it to switch off the vile for something else?

its only doing 80 k dmg per tick on heroic

[versed summit]

nah vile's good

[wild lily]

alr cheers

[shy willow]

What are you currently running

Oh I see

[wild lily]

:D

this is the current one

[vestal ibex]

Specs are better in certain situations/playstyles/strats but if you want more damage and use the crusader-firewall, if you want some survivability-gunner, all the other specs can help in some way but they are more niche and situational. I'd suggest picking between mo damage or mo armor on kill. Really you could argue one spec is better in one room vs the one next to it and depending on team comp it changes too.

[shy willow]

Swap wyvern for electrique or Golan and you're golden

And maybe your test subject for a harmony or something but that's just to conserve ammo

[wild lily]

i have a everlastign gaze as second rn

[vestal ibex]

I'd say the secondary isn't a big deal. Cap and it's stacks are mo betta

[wild lily]

yup, i use everlasting if cap istn stacked already

[mint axle]

Go for electrique instead of Golan because it's already comes with skill tier, (it's easier than praying for a Golan piece to come with skill damage and status effect so you can change the blue core to a skill tier).

[wild lily]

Yeah sounds good

[delicate rivet]

Hey guys
Working one a pvp builds, currently having all exotics except Eb, witch build should i go, have ninjabike and memeto but no matador,

[stiff jasper]

Neither ninja and memento

[delicate rivet]

Oh shit😃 better alternative?

[magic pilot]

Sheild splinterer And EB top in pvp rn

[patent fossil]

Not ouro?

[wise swallow]

I assuming he is only talking AR's

[magic pilot]

I usually recommend ARs first to people getting into PvP, smg/shotgun you need really good movement despite being really strong options

[timid plume]

Do you want dmg to targets out of cover on the ouroboros or is crit dmg similar in output as a third stat on it?

[hazy steeple]

dtooc is better.
it's pretty much the "go to" on every gun.

[timid plume]

What's a fast way to farm polycarbonate

[versed summit]

Solar Farm. And whoever it drops from, I don’t remember off hand.

[hazy steeple]

Hyena, so if Solar Farm gets boring can always spam their activities.

[timid plume]

Do you know how long it takes for all the material boxes to reset after opening them

[vestal ibex]

Daily reset. https://divisiontimers.com/

Should be 12 hours from now basically.

[hushed saddle]

Nice!

[gentle lichen]

Isn't it 24 hours after you open the cache? Haven't tested it though

[versed summit]

Nah

[gentle lichen]

It's funny that you can open it a minute before reset and loot it 2 times

[vestal ibex]

Yeah but in the end you really can only open it on average once per 24 hours.

[hazy steeple]

With 4 characters and an SSD, you can open it 8 times in 10 minutes.
that poor NPC must be so confused.

[rocky rain]

What’s so special about these Hunter Killer pieces?

[wise swallow]

Perfect intimidate

[rocky rain]

That’s it?

And can you recalibrate them? So to combine with Matador/Memento?

[wise swallow]

THe hunter killer chest itself yea

[onyx sage]

i did it.

[fresh grove]

It has perfect intimidate which basically gives 15% amplified weapon damage when you have bonus armor

[onyx sage]

technically it's 48% amp

[fresh grove]

Is it? I don’t have the chestpiece and since the devs technically removed the blueprint from the descent recon caches which was a very annoying thing to do ngl

[onyx sage]

yeah, normal version is 42%

[fresh grove]

Ic so there’s basically a 6% difference

[onyx sage]

in the formula it's an exponential buff. it's 1.04^9 for the normal version and 1.04^10 for the perfect version

[fresh grove]

Got that

[timid plume]

What's the best non exotic pistol (Third weapon slot) to use?

[versed summit]

TDI Kard custom is my favorite. The extra skill tier is nice

[tulip charm]

The only good non exo pistol are tdi kard, orbit or a d50 imo

[rich cosmos]

Once your level 40 there little reason to use a pistol

Unless its tdi kard or a pistol build your using

[next jolt]

are there any builds thats good for xp farming?

[fleet basin]

Is anyone good at making DPS builds?

[rich cosmos]

A lot of people are

[fleet basin]

Ok but who tho

[rich cosmos]

They will show up in chat eventually or will cite the spreadsheet in pins

[onyx sage]

look at the pinned sheet

[versed summit]

Hotshot w/ determined is pretty strong. Head hunter’s fury as well.

[serene hare]

Should I buy only exotic crates?

Bought already.

[tulip charm]

It depends if 1. you're looking for any exotics. 2. need components.

[serene hare]

Got a Nike, 2 Merciless, another Elmo and some other useless trash like another Mantis, Diamondback, Backfire and so

Unfortunately no Regulus.

[marsh sphinx]

Please 3 providence fox's contractors and group or ceska or fenris for an AR?

[covert meadow]

Are regulus even in exotic cache now, i thought it was online only in raids?

[marsh sphinx]

@covert meadow it's only in IH

[covert meadow]

Yeah, I accidentally deleted mine today

Full max roll

[marsh sphinx]

I deleted my 22 expertise regulus didn't like it

[covert meadow]

No fun, but hard lesson learned, I won't be going for another, as I don't do raids anymore

[marsh sphinx]

It's 1 run just to get the parts I think

[covert meadow]

I thought I heard you gotta do like 5 runs of it

And find a crew to even finish

I have my blue prints

[marsh sphinx]

No 2 I run to get the required materials and another to pick its golden gun parts. But since we had it we only need 1 run

[covert meadow]

Oh

Ok thanks for letting me know, I hope you get yours asap.

[shy willow]

You'll only find it in iron horse

If you ain't buying exo caches devils due is a good option

Some cheeky DZ exclusive expertise

[wooden hamlet]

they nerfed my builds

im mad

[marsh sphinx]

How so?

[shy willow]

What did they nerf

[rich cosmos]

I don’t recall anything getting nerfed any time recently

[shy willow]

There was resolve but that was all buffs and things

[sinful folio]

I'm a returning player and have missed a lot of updates and changes to the game. What is/are the best builds at right now?

or weapons/new weapons

[hazy steeple]

tl;dr for best builds is pretty much "the spreadsheet has been updated".
for guns it depends on the build, but most of them list good current options.

Current DPS meta is a Red Strikers.

[grim plank]

BK striker is also underrated

[tawdry flare]

#5.11 rocks

[hazy steeple]

Yes, in that the build should be weight down with them before you throw it in the sea.

[dense seal]

You rang?

[dense seal]

Ceska

[dense seal]

Generally speaking, the answer is "what ever you enjoy".
But if you are looking for a place to start, 4 Pieces Strikers, Ceska Chest with Obliterate and Coyotes Mask is a very safe bet.
For Weapons. Most stick with AR's as they are good at pretty much all ranges except EXTREME distances. Which no weapon is particularly good at.
To pair with Strikers we normaally go for faster RPM weapons. Bigger numbers wins, essentially.
Famas, F2000, St Elmo are the top contenders.

[marsh sphinx]

Guys I just ran an alt please whats the highest gold build. I saw kamikaze van doom running a capacacitator that hit for 900k

I really don't want to waste materials please thanks

[dense seal]

Highest? As in DPS?

[marsh sphinx]

Yes non striker I have a one already please help 🙏

[dense seal]

So you like Scopes?

[marsh sphinx]

Sure if it's max dmg

[dense seal]

Still not that good compared to Striker/Negotiator @marsh sphinx

[tawdry flare]

Just be careful with scopes they block most of your view entirely

[sinful folio]

thats still the meta?

[tawdry flare]

I mean with the Nerf to shield peeking it is still the highest dps HE build

[dense seal]

For High End Focus Play, yeah.
F2000 missing the attachment slots takes it out of the running. Elmo barely has anything worthy of calling a "scope".
Next on the list will be Big Horn, Chameleon and G36.
Big Horn scope swapps fire mode, good lucking hitting anything further than your nose with Chameleon and G36 is weaker than Famas, as well as good luch hitting anything at range

The biggest down side to Scope play now is due to the ABYSMAL change to Shield Play, using a Scope is now kind of toxic to get used to.

[marsh sphinx]

But what about the gear pieces please last question

[tawdry flare]

Gear pcs ?

[dense seal]

Click on the image, it literally says the individual pieces

[marsh sphinx]

Sorry what 6 yellow pieces output most dmg?

[tawdry flare]

The build picture bruh

[marsh sphinx]

Oh didn't see that so sorry

[e-mail]

[dense seal]

p.s. Capacitor is bad for general DPS builds

[hazy steeple]

p.p.s. Youtubers for div2 are generally bad for everything.
There's about 3 good ones, and one of them is in this conversation.

[dense seal]

I did not know @tawdry flare is a youtuber. . . .

[tawdry flare]

Wut when did I open a YouTube channel

[hazy steeple]

510 subscribers too, such a shame.

[tawdry flare]

511

[slate nest]

not my build

[tawdry flare]

Need to replace the chest

[dense seal]

Not a true beleiever in the 511

[acoustic coral]

You shoud rename to 5.11 again ...

[dense seal]

You removed it? HERETIC!

[tawdry flare]

I retired for few days

[onyx sage]

i wish i was also a good youtuber 😔

[tawdry flare]

Kamikaze is certainly the best tuber his videos should be pinned in the channel every build feels so weak compared to his

[patent fossil]

you should stop showcasing all your hacks then

[onyx sage]

true!

[marsh sphinx]

What do you guys think about kamikazevandooms sacrifice fox contractors build? With capacitor?

[hexed steppe]

Kvd is kinda bad in general. There is usually some gimmick attribute he is trying to boost up while sacrificing every other part of the build

Tbf you can make cap work in most builds...skill hybrid/explosive builds benefit a lot from cap, but there are usually a lot better choices for general dps.

[brisk barn]

My biggest greivance with cap is that you need to build stacks BEFORE applying the skill

By then everything is dead no?

[hexed steppe]

Send me some so I can get gud

[onyx sage]

sure, type in chat /invite dien.aka.kim 🤓

[hexed steppe]

Depends on the skill. Fire for sure, but hive constantly checks for each charge iirc

[brisk barn]

With deployable skills yeah it’s fine

But with launched skills

Eh

[hexed steppe]

Carry me papa 👴

[onyx sage]

now?

[hexed steppe]

If you know how to use it, it's not an issue. Finish off burning npcs builds stacks for the next shot. using eclipse as an example

[hexed steppe]

No I'm stuck on bonsai duty all day today

[onyx sage]

rip

[hexed steppe]

Also good practice to keep cap and maybe an insync mop as backup for a quick sd boost in a pinch.
If not using the dta I would harmony rifle as backup

[fleet basin]

Tryna make a dps build with the Bluescreen but it’s confusing

[hexed steppe]

There is a blue screen dilemma in the pinned spreadsheet. @acoustic coral probably has a few variants as well

[wooden hamlet]

this guy gave me a strikers build and it supposed to do 1.2M CHD i have not EVER changed the build it is now doing 776K

[acoustic coral]

this guy?
In any case, post your build in here, striker, obliterate, coyote, elmo does about 1.0-1.1M body perfectly rolled
Edit:
Ceska Obliterate
Coyote
6x Red cores
Elmo, no expertise, DTTOC
All max roll - 52chc, 173chd
Body crit: 957,119.5
HS crit: 1,210,773.1

Elmo, 20 expertise:
Body crit: 1,040,354.3
HS crit: 1,316,066.6
(assuming DTH)

Considering Elmo wasn't changed in Resolve, this has been the math for the longest time.

[wooden hamlet]

yea that guy

[hexed steppe]

Ceska oblit elmo coyote all red striker should be doing about 1.2 mil.
52chc 173chd iirc

[wooden hamlet]

and mine is close to that and before update it was doing 1,2M now its doing baby numbers

[wooden hamlet]

exactly

[hexed steppe]

I'll check my own setup in the range later when I get home and see if I get the same

[hushed saddle]

I have a question. Is such equipment only for pvp and not for pve? These are things I try to understand. Example: Is it good to wear more armor or damage in pvp? Etc.

[wooden hamlet]

alr

[acoustic coral]

tbh, the BluescreenDilemma guide is the version you wanna run in most situations, every other variant I've got is cooked versions that doesn't work half the time.
Only note I have is have DTA as third stat on the Bluescreen

[hexed steppe]

The quoted build unlocks godmode when used proper...

But seriously, no something like that isnt suggested.
Pvp would be more armor, but it would make use of damage brand sets/dttooc/dta .

We have some good pvp guys in here to set you straight. @magic pilot

[acoustic coral]

Aswell as @wise swallow and @rich lotus

[acoustic coral]

@wooden hamlet Don't know what to tell you, no nerfs / changes to any of the mentioned gear in 6+ months

[wooden hamlet]

tis okay imma jus turn into a tank player🥲 my buddy was laughing at me cuz all he plays is tanks

[inland plinth]

i have a tank hybrid you might like

[hexed steppe]

Say it ain't so. Go cc instead. Team wont hae you that way

[wooden hamlet]

alr will do

[wooden hamlet]

shoot 👌

[hushed saddle]

Thank you for replying. And you shed some light on pvp gear for me. And reading about guy who uses tanks, I also have a question, is ability damage viable in pvp? Or it's just set aside for a pve. What I'm trying to know, is there a balance of loadouts in pvp between damage, ability damage, medics, tanks? etc. Although I think it's just pure damage and armor.

In their gaming experiences, I'd like to know what they think about those equipments.

[acoustic coral]

You're gonna turn into a tank player because what exactly? Striker is still the highest single target DPS in the game

[wooden hamlet]

wtv they did my build aint workin the same

and its not only one build

its 3

[inland plinth]

this build has 3 variants to use, this is the one i use the most and has the most damage out of the 3

do you want me to explain it further?

[shy willow]

Nothing changed

[inland plinth]

are you meaning me when you mention "reading about guy who uses tanks"?

[shy willow]

Drop a pic of your build

That and tanks are almost entirely useless

[inland plinth]

not entirely honestly, i run with a group that uses DPS and i can pretty much outdo them in both damage and survivability

[wooden hamlet]

im not on pc u got a xbox ?

[inland plinth]

it works either way and yes i have div 2 on xbox

[wooden hamlet]

no not u

he said send build

[shy willow]

My tag says Xbox yes

[wooden hamlet]

user ?

[inland plinth]

my bad

[shy willow]

Just take a screengrab on your Xbox and send the upload here

[wooden hamlet]

oh no ur good man

[wooden hamlet]

how do i do that ive never done that?

[inland plinth]

take a screenshot and let it upload to the xbox network, your on a PC right now right?

[wooden hamlet]

no im on here from xbox

[inland plinth]

you on an xbox right now typing??

[wooden hamlet]

yup

crazy innit

[inland plinth]

lol your using the browser

[wooden hamlet]

yuppp

[inland plinth]

ok do you have a tablet or even a smart phone?

i don't know if it would work via xbox browser

[wooden hamlet]

phone broke gotta get a new one💀💀

[inland plinth]

OOF

[wooden hamlet]

hold on i think i can figure sum out

gimme a min

[inland plinth]

i'm naturally a smart ass and the thought that came across my mind on this is funny but i'm gonna be nice right now

[hushed saddle]

Yes. To be clearer with my doubt, are the equipment that gives armor, heals, ability damage, quite apart from weapon damage used in pvp or only in pve? Kind of like roles.

[inland plinth]

i'm not sure how you mean exactly, are you talking about benefits between those vs weapon damage?

[hushed saddle]

Yes!

[shy willow]

if youre on next gen the controllers have a built in capture button

otherwise theres a button to capture in the dashboard

[wooden hamlet]

nah man u can say it

[inland plinth]

i was gonna say your minute is up lol

it something i always say to my GF who says that a lot, makes her mad af but funny af too

[inland plinth]

this is the best way i can explain it
A common -- or I guess not quite that common -- problem with the min-maxing game we tend to play at the end game is determining what bonuses are additive and which ones are multiplicative.

Multiplicative bonuses do as they as and multiply your damage directly. Regardless of any of your existing stats, if your body shot deals 100 damage, then a 20% multiplicative bonus makes it 120, end of story.

Additive bonuses add to a multiplier. If you are doing a red build, for example, you probably already have a ton of weapon damage bonus on each of the six armor pieces. These are not individual multiplicative bonuses, but are multipliers of the same category, Weapon Damage, which is added together. If your body shot deals 100 damage, and you put on a full red suit adding 90% WD bonus, you now do 190; if you then get another weapon damage bonus of 20%, you don't do 190 * 120%, but 100 * (100 + 90 + 20)%, because that 20% is additive, and of the Weapon Damage type.

With that out of the way, the table categorizes most of the sources of bonus damage in this game that I can think of, excluding crit damage, as they are apparently additive. Some of them remain to be tested due to lack of relevant gear, so feel free to let me know if you already experimented with them.

One notable discovery we made is that the wording "total weapon damage" on gear talents is not just a different wording on "weapon damage", but a signal that the talent uses a separate multiplier than the normal "weapon damage", which you get from gear core attributes and weapon talents. The TWD is additive with a limited source, namely chest and backpack talents, so if you are only using one damage boosting talent, it would appear to be multiplicative. Meanwhile all talents that say "amplify" are multiplicative (having their own unique multipliers), and don't interfere with one another.

E.g. if you put on 4p Tips, Overwatch and Composure, the ratio between a Tips/Overwatch/Composure proc shot and a unboosted body shot would turn out to be exactly 1.47:1, where the 47% is the sum of the bonus from all these pieces, whose talents all have the wording "total weapon damage" in them. If you were feeling short-damaged by your setup, this is probably why.

A few other interesting things we noticed:

Most weapon talents are additive, except the three status effect talents plus Ranger.

Tips is the only damage boosting gearset that boosts TWD instead of amplification. Consider using amplifying talents with it.

Striker 4p's bonus seems to be multiplicative but with a weird number. My experiments gave me 64.66% on multiple builds, which doesn't look quite right but the numbers are stable.

Sharpshooter has the worst tactical link.

this is what i reference to whenever i need a refresher course on the damage calculations basically

[onyx sage]

striker is an amp

it's not twd

[inland plinth]

yep

which is why i leave 2 pieces with weapon damage and do 2 other pieces with armor and use the momento backpack

i've been doing a few tests like this recently

[hushed saddle]

@inland plinth I'm going to read it, thanks. 🥺

[inland plinth]

sorry its so long bruh

its not orginally mine either, i have it set in my notes

[hushed saddle]

No, not at all. I appreciate the fact that you take the trouble to give me such an explanation. 🥺

[onyx sage]

you can keep asking here, we got lots of knowledgeable people

[inland plinth]

although its not a bad thing to ask around in various places about things like this, i do always suggest using google to search and if you can't find the info via that search then ask

this is how i am though

[onyx sage]

i don't recommend it for this game due to how tribal the good information is

[inland plinth]

it varies depending on the game though lol

[onyx sage]

even then reddit is usually your best bet

this game is terrible in terms of good information on google

[inland plinth]

actually that's where i found that explination i sent him

[onyx sage]

you get the most correct info here

[magic pilot]

Absolutely

[shy willow]

yeah google ain't got shit

[magic pilot]

Everywhere else is a mess, sometimes here is too

But it's our mess

[shy willow]

people in here know basically everything you want to

[hexed steppe]

Their 2019 game info is on point

[onyx sage]

like will google tell you how intimidate works

[inland plinth]

the google search led me to reddit back then though 🤣

[hushed saddle]

I appreciate all the answers, they are very kind. They remind me of the reason why I fell in love with the first installment (the division 1). 🥺

[shy willow]

all the guides are still in world tiers it's so surreal

[wooden hamlet]

i do the same thing i love to troll man

[onyx sage]

how does it work in the formula?

[inland plinth]

lol that's a bit more complicated

[hearty forge]

Looking up status gear. Is pestilence worth the farming?

[onyx sage]

exactly

you won't find that on there

[inland plinth]

i have a pesti and i love using it

[shy willow]

pestilence and status effects are completely separate

[inland plinth]

fair enough but i usually do that kind of thing on my own although if a new player then yea asking here would benefit from that

[shy willow]

plague is a debuff

[wooden hamlet]

here u go naval

[inland plinth]

how is that now working for you?

[hearty forge]

So it wouldn't stack with stuff like vile and that one gear set?

[onyx sage]

it's like a medium-level talent to figure out on your own but not the hardest thing

[shy willow]

yep

[shy willow]

get a double crit chest and swap spec to firewall or gunner

and get an ACS for stacking

[inland plinth]

i'll have to do a test on that, i think i have a pesti on a EP with vile build, i don't remember if it worked or not

[onyx sage]

it does not lol

feel free to test but everyone here knows already

[hearty forge]

That kills my vibe, how about that one status dealing exotic shotgun. Trying to figure out a fun build while leveling survivalist

[shy willow]

^

scorpio is a pretty universal gun it'll work on anything

if you wanna use surv try eclipse fire or cc

[wooden hamlet]

ill do gunner and is there a way to farm for it ?

[shy willow]

countdown

[inland plinth]

or summit

[shy willow]

same brand same talent just needs crit chance and crit damage

[inland plinth]

i do summit to knock out the 15 floors for the weekly project and then go to count down if i get no pieces i need by the 30th floor

[inland plinth]

this is good for strikers and heartbreaker but if you get a rock n roll be careful on reloading, you'll lose ammo swapping to your other weapon as well.

[hearty forge]

Bluescreen sounds funny

[shy willow]

atp fast hands acs or a lefty is better

rest in pieces rock n roll

[inland plinth]

i still use one lol i'm just careful on the reload

[shy willow]

acs already crashes ammo economy but losing 10 rounds on weaoon switch nahhh

[inland plinth]

hmm...not sure what you mean by crashes ammo economy...

[shy willow]

it eats ammo insanely fast

[inland plinth]

ohh lol i burn ammo faster on the elmo then the ACS

basically when using the rock n roll i use it till it get under 20 and then swap to my elmo, i also grab ammo at any restock every chance i get which helps keeps ammo on both

i honestly wish they would bring the showstopper to div 2, that's the one weapon from div 1 i want the most

[placid lion]

Got an ACS with Mag size and it still melts. Runs ammo but boy is she fun

[inland plinth]

yea but if you put DTOC on it, it would melt even more guaranteed.

[onyx sage]

acs with dttooc and fast hands

[tawdry flare]

Fast hands on shotgun is now meta for dps what do you think @urban latch

[placid lion]

Yeah i’m sure. Personal preference i spose. Those 22 shots with fast hands certainly do the thing

[inland plinth]

if you get a second one try it out, you'll never go back plus you can do different loadouts with each of them honestly

[urban latch]

well for ACS, not necessarily shotguns in general

[tawdry flare]

I mean super 90 with fast hands can be nice or six 12 fast hands

[acoustic coral]

When you said this guy in regards to who gave you the build, I can only assume you meant a youtuber, because otherwise I'm confused what you're shouting about. Outside of some of your rolls not being maxed + missing out on a tiny bit from watch - that build still melts whatever you throw at it.
Those 1.2M hits are most likely Headshot Crits and a cherry-picked number.
I gave you what a max-rolled build will do for damage on health targets.
It is the #1 Single-target dps build out there.

[placid lion]

That’s true. I gotchu though, I’ll give it a gander.

@wooden hamlet Looks great to start

[wise swallow]

[wooden hamlet]

you gave it to me man

its okay tho

[acoustic coral]

Interesting how I said headshot crits then aswell

[wooden hamlet]

but my guy i never aim for the head unless i have a sniper

i get what u saying tho

im good now i found a good dps build

[acoustic coral]

Yes, but you're stating "it got nerfed, 1.2M" yada yada and saying I said it, which is false. I just found the message aswell, I've always said 1.2M HS Crits with striker, no expertise Elmo

[acoustic coral]

Let me guess, Striker?

[wooden hamlet]

yea u told me strikers is best i dont have anything thats beats it as if right now

[wooden hamlet]

well idk but for me it aint hitting the same

and i jus now tried it out

still not hitting 1.2M headshot ill jus wait till i max out everything

but thank u anyway

[acoustic coral]

ofcourse not
1.2M requires: 52% CHC, 173% CHD, Mid-Range Coyote buff, all items maxed out, watch maxed out. (goes without saying it's also at max striker + obliterate stacks)
It will be between 1M and 1.2M before you get it all maxed

[grim plank]

How can I make my build better? I use striker crit build with ourobourus. 60chc 180chd any advice?

[brisk barn]

Do you have a picture of the build?

[grim plank]

Not atm, but I’m still leveling my expertise level it’s 10 now. And if I upgrade my watch i have 60chc

[urban latch]

what are your two non-striker pieces?

[grim plank]

Grupo and czeska

But I’m thinking czeska gone for sokolov chest the talent i use is obliterate

[brisk barn]

Sounds fine to me

Make sure to have an extra strikers chestplate for Dark Hours and Incursions

And then you can have an extra high end piece of your choice somewhere else

[grim plank]

Okay thanks

[brisk barn]

Also if you change your chest piece to solokov’s don’t throw away the ceska one in case you want to use other weapon types

Ouro has a high base CHC because it’s an SMG but for longer range combat it’s a big meh

So the extra ceska CHC is good to have whenever facing further enemies

I like to see builds as very fluid things that are changed as you progress through different content. Many raids I run with 4-5 variations of the same build throughout the raid for different cases

Don’t know if it’s the best thing to do but it keeps things fun and dynamic

[onyx sage]

i have 6 striker loadouts

each for different things

[tulip charm]

6? wtf

[onyx sage]

yeah

[tulip charm]

do you have a dch ver?

[onyx sage]

no, i deleted it

[tulip charm]

Thats the only extra striker loadout I have

[tulip charm]

Honestly just keep ceska chest

And run coyotes mask instead of groupo

[onyx sage]

striker with ceska/coyote striker chest acs+six12
striker with ceska/coyote obliterate
striker with ceska/coyote striker chest famas
striker with ceska/coyote striker chest elmo
striker with ceska/coyote striker chest but technician
blue striker with intim + ad rush

[tulip charm]

sokolov's smg damage is meh at best

[grim plank]

There is always a teammate who runs cayote’s mask

[tulip charm]

I dont rely on my teammates for that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[onyx sage]

i'm too lazy to readjust my crit mods so yeah i have 6

[tulip charm]

I mean

All you have to do is just change chd mods to chc mods on striker

[onyx sage]

too long for my solo runs

[tulip charm]

yeah

[onyx sage]

loadout switch is instant

oh wait technically there's 7. striker with ceska/coyote striker chest elmo with 39% pfe

but yeah basically all of them have coyote because i really feel it when no one runs coyote

i would rather run it than bank on anyone else running it

[tulip charm]

same

[devout agate]

I want a pve build with catharsis

What should I use?

I want high damage

[patent fossil]

catharsis is kind of designed for tank builds, not high damage

the damage buff it gives is more valuable the fewer red cores you have, and the requirement of being shot doesn't exactly help a DPS build either

I guess standard striker (ceska obliterate chest) but with a few blue cores and catharsis instead of coyotes would work well enough - maybe eagle bearer if you have it

[onyx sage]

catharsis gives the most effectiveness at 6 blue which is against the idea of damage

it's just a minor damage buff, it's the survivability it gives that makes it worth it

so, "catharsis" and "high damage" don't really go in the same sentence

[devout agate]

How much armor should I have for a catharsis build

[onyx sage]

6 blue

[grim plank]

which stats do i need to roll on my ouroborous?

[rich lotus]

Damage to target out of cover

[grim plank]

i have chd chc smg dmg

[onyx sage]

damage to target out of cover for 3rd attribute

[grim plank]

ah man i just god it god rolled 😢

[steel rampart]

Can anyone point me towards a complete list of available gear for level 30 including named. Trying to make best level 30 build for solo WONY. This is what I have so far.

The aces is for the 30% HSD bonus getting me to 155 with the regulus. I main the regulus so ideally don’t want DCH. Farming for a providence with vigi since memento won’t work

[hexed steppe]

dont use memento, it wont work in wony without an shd agent with you

[steel rampart]

My last sentence haha but thanks I learned the hard way but is nice to have if someone joins

[hexed steppe]

welp, reading skills lacking 😂

hotshot isnt craftable pre wony, huh

[steel rampart]

Nope. I really wish I could get hunters furry. The level 30 base armor quickly becomes much lower in comparison which is what made me think of memento in the first place along with minimal uptime with vigi due to my impatient play style

[hexed steppe]

youll probably have enough damage regardless of bag tho. maybe bloodsucker

[onyx sage]

i don't think bloodsucker is pre-wony

[hexed steppe]

dxamnit

its been a long time since i crafted anything for wony.. and i just used a skill build with scorpio

[steel rampart]

Yea I can one tap reds up to level 37 or 37 but then it quickly becomes difficult after that

[onyx sage]

my build is inviting someone with fire eclipse and regulus headhunter so they could carry me

[hexed steppe]

im usually one of the guys that shows up for that stuff

skill builds just scale well in wony. skill core is a skill core regardless

[steel rampart]

Well it is kinda funny because any level 40 that joins is normally sprinting to keep up asking why I called for backup in the first place. At least for the first half of wony. It’s just nice to practice aiming while going through it.

I did know that about skill tiers but would like to stick with regulus HH in mind

[grim plank]

my current build

[steel rampart]

Reconfigure til you get dtoc on ouro

[grim plank]

for incursion and raids i use strikers chest and cayotes mask

and if i had my watch higher level i should have 60chc i have now 10/50p in chc

[hexed steppe]

its still in a good spot

[undone haven]

Keep chc around 50% as from coyote's mask you'll get buffs (missing % till 60%)

[hexed steppe]

itll be close buff 90% of the time... no chc gain on close

[grim plank]

if i maxed out my chc on my watch i have 60%chc

i levelled 200 levels in 2 days

[undone haven]

But if couple of people are running with coyote's during raids/incursion all the time all 3 buffs will be active

[hexed steppe]

personally , ill ride 60 regardless... maybe its all the nego use that spoiled me 😂

but ig with all 3 buffs active all the time you could get away with running the stock 31% on oreo

[undone haven]

That's what I'm doing with my lady death build, 48% chc, 200% chd, 110% or 120% HD, lady is hitting over 2 mil

Also with perfect team (buffs) I managed to get over 4 mil with lady death

[grim plank]

is lady death that good?

[grim plank]

but you only run crit armor pieces? or also striker

[onyx sage]

it's not that great. the mag size holds it back

[undone haven]

It's my favorite gun 😁😁

[undone haven]

That's true but with that dmg output mag size it's great, not complaining 😁

[undone haven]

No armor, only red attributes+ perfect glass cannon

[marsh sphinx]

Guys please I'm hitting higher numbers at range with 3 provi/ ceska / fox / Groupo ? What am I doing wrong? Should contractors hit stronger?

[grim plank]

isnt obliterate better? because you have that much crit? or is glass canon always better

[onyx sage]

obliterate and gc in striker is basically the same

[hazy steeple]

It depends on what enemy type you are hitting. Enemies with a white bar over their health are the only ones that Contractors affect.

[hazy steeple]

Lady Death's Talent is mostly subpar compared to just a good high-end with dtooc and actual useful mod slots+Talent.
It has a good niche thing for speedruns and I think PvP in some way, but that's about it. Use it for fun, but I wouldn't pick it if you're trying to go super meta.

[marsh sphinx]

I'm hitting named in range what would be better overall for raids and incursions?

[undone haven]

Obliterate needs to be stacked up, with glass cannon is pure dmg output

[grim plank]

omg man i rolled 54 times and not even 1 with dttoc

[hushed saddle]

Is armor damage important?

[hexed steppe]

what are you swapping out for contractors... also, your chc probably overcap with ceska on highend build if your rolls are all crit

[serene hare]

Damn, no one doing CD now.

[marsh sphinx]

@hexed steppe so go for contractors ? 3 provi contractors Groupo.and fox?

[hexed steppe]

yeah thats the typical high end red setup. shouldnt need ceska in there unless you are using something that doesnt allow for crit mods on weapon

[marsh sphinx]

Thanks last question with famas I'm good?

[hexed steppe]

yeah famas is solid

[marsh sphinx]

@hexed steppe thanks going to farm in cd now

[hexed steppe]

nice

[hexed steppe]

i top out @ 1.0m to body and 1.3m head. mid buff elite.
close buff @ 1.1m body. 1.39m head
52chc/172.9chd + 25 expertise
post a screenshot of your build and the stats screen. sounds like something got mixed up if not hitting similar range of numbers .

[solar sable]

What builds should I run to solo legendary roosevelt?

[onyx sage]

striker elmo is comfy

it's more about strats tbh

[solar sable]

I've seen your runs, yeah, I like it

[onyx sage]

you can use memento instead of striker backpack

making it even easier

[solar sable]

alr, I'll try

[grim plank]

is it even possible to get dttoc on ouroborus? i rerrolled like 60times

[patent fossil]

yes, you're just unlucky

[grim plank]

im out of every material and exotic

[solar sable]

you must sacrifice something to lootcifer in order to get dttoc in your oreo

[grim plank]

i saw a build on youtube maxed damage to armor (26%)60chc 164chc with oreo

[solar sable]

Please refrain from using yt builds. That's why we have the 📌 spreadsheet

[hexed steppe]

you need to step up the Lootcifer sacrifices
🔥 😈 🔥

[grim plank]

i just dont know what build to run haha

tested everything almost

[hexed steppe]

t6 hacked stinger hive at heroic CD extraction should ensure favorable results

[onyx sage]

yes. guarantees you a god rolled elmo with dttooc

(sample size: 1)

[hexed steppe]

for oreo, run what i posted just above and swap out elmo for oreo. if chc is way over use grupo instead of ceska chest

[serene hare]

Finally got a Ekim's Stick

Never felt so deceptioned with a weapon before.

[hexed steppe]

the high end you have on works as well. make sure youre hitting a little higher chc, 41 is a bit low and increasing will increase overall dps

[grim plank]

well, i rerolled it extra 4 times and im going offline now. its unbelieveble what my luck is. dttoc is not popping only dta, range, reload speed,chd

[worldly mountain]

hello. any advise for increasing headshot dmg aside from the famous holster set.

[onyx sage]

if you're talking about sniper builds, headshot damage shouldn't be stacked at the cost of weapon damage. weapon damage scales your damage more

[worldly mountain]

I see. the more weapon dmg equals more dmg even with decent headshot dmg.

[onyx sage]

yes

[worldly mountain]

can you share me some tips for sniper build?

[onyx sage]

linked in the pinned spreadsheet, in the hub tab, check out the "Sniper Setups" link

[serene hare]

There are any viable sidearm build that deals something like 20 million damage?

I don't know how to make sidearm or skill builds.

[onyx sage]

regulus

and headhunter

[worldly mountain]

oh no I have bad luck for that pistol

[worldly mountain]

worse luck than regulus but hoepfully I can get that

[onyx sage]

you need to do iron horse, it's guaranteed after 3 times

[worldly mountain]

a talent?

[onyx sage]

iron horse is a raid

[worldly mountain]

I can try that

[shy willow]

Gonna have to if you want a regulus

[worldly mountain]

I do want that pistol

[serene hare]

How does this weapon deals that much damage? It's talent seems like to deal damage only to crowd of enemies.

And the damage of the weapon itself seems to be less than D50's damage.

[shy willow]

Dodge city boosts pistol damage by like 1000 percent at max stacks if you want damage

With headhunter you can do stupid numbers

Regulus is better cuz of the free AOE

You can knock out entire spawns in a couple of shots

[serene hare]

Ok, but just once.

[shy willow]

From my understanding of headhunter it'll build up stacks for it insanely fast if you land the shot so not exactly

[serene hare]

I don't understand.
If the damage of the Regulus is around 400k, how does it get to 20 million?

[shy willow]

^

[serene hare]

Ok, so why it doesn't work with other sidearms?

[onyx sage]

it has the highest base damage

[shy willow]

And this

[ancient dune]

Basically just lots of number stacking

[shy willow]

Why?

[onyx sage]

you have to if you want to hit 20m consistently

[serene hare]

I misread.

[shy willow]

Ah

[serene hare]

Can I have a example of build?

[ancient dune]

Lots of different multipliers stacking together to push you to 20 mil

[onyx sage]

in pinned spreadsheet, "Regulus Headhunter"

[ancient dune]

So glad the headhunter gang rocked up to spread more headhunter propaganda 🤝

[onyx sage]

headhunter

[serene hare]

Maybe I'm a fucking ape, but I can't find it.

[onyx sage]

regulus headhunter

[serene hare]

This is literally the build I have

Except the Regulus, sure.

[onyx sage]

yeah... the regulus's base damage is how you can get to 20m

[serene hare]

How much it have?

[onyx sage]

you quite literally cannot get that elsewhere

[tawdry flare]

19. Something at expertise 20

[tulip charm]

I dont think you can hit 20m unless you get buffs

[onyx sage]

yeah you need striker shield

[serene hare]

How much damage it has?

[tawdry flare]

Also hf stacked to max

[onyx sage]

the highest in pistols

you can look in the same sheet

[tawdry flare]

It is the highest dps pistol too

[ancient dune]

It also has a real crosshair :D

[serene hare]

I'm almost punching my balls in rage, I don't know how to use this.

[ancient dune]

Click weapons

[magic pilot]

Maybe don't punch your balls?

[onyx sage]

Weapons

[ancient dune]

You should punch your balls anyway tho

[magic pilot]

Maybe close the 1000 YouTube videos

[onyx sage]

replace them with solo legendary clips

[magic pilot]

Buddy has the game and 100 tabs open

[serene hare]

They made me to not break a finger while playing something, I can't.

I think leaving this game for so many years made all this weird for me to read, I don't know how to read it with and without scale anymore.

I see it has higher numbers, that's all, and maybe that's all that matters.

The thing is, apparently there's no other sidearm that can do very high numbers.

I'm getting 8 to 9 million at best.

Instead of Dodge city I'll pick up Forge and call the day.

Wait, there's 1 big mistake in my build.

I'm not using Sharpshooter.

I'm telling you, I'm an ape.

[worldly mountain]

at least I note all your tips.

[serene hare]

Meh, the damage remain same-ish.

Well, I oneshot heroic elites when full stacked, at least.

[shy willow]

Headhunter

[tawdry flare]

You don't need to be fully stacked tbh

[serene hare]

Just to keep damage.
With Dodge City it kills with first shot.

[tawdry flare]

You should join headhunter gang than

[tawdry flare]

Yeah if you hit though if you miss it's game over sometimes

[serene hare]

Not when I have this:

Could be more optimized tho...

[shy willow]

If you miss with dodge city it drops all your stacks

[serene hare]

Oh, he meant that.

[shy willow]

That and forge is an immensely inferior option for a headhunter build

[serene hare]

But good option for the shield.

from 2.7 million health, it goes to 5.88

[shy willow]

The shield health scales off the base health of the shield before blues and all so it's pretty negligible

[serene hare]

Doesn't seems like.

[shy willow]

And at T0 your shield is gonna get whacked anyway if you're trying to tank with it

It's a buffer only

[serene hare]

It's only for close range option anyway.
This build works wonders with my Model 700, it is dealing around 24 million damage.

So for bosses I'd be using it anyway.

For trash minions I can use the Magnum.

[steel rampart]

I had that happen with the Scorpio. Used up all my components and then would have to rock whatever horrible roll I had on it. Eventually I got it and it was near god rolled with dtoc maxed out. You’ll get it eventually

[shy willow]

If you tweaked your build you'd be hitting way harder with it

[serene hare]

The thing is that dodge city is good to have while sniping

so when swapping, I already have a hitkill damage on headshot.

Fucking dilema.

[shy willow]

So put on dodge city

Forge isn't gonna save you

[serene hare]

Yeah, maybe not.

If only my Forge had headshot damage...

I'd just change the base attribute to weapon damage and it would be quite fun to hold in lower difficulty missions.

Just shield and go.

[shy willow]

10 percent hsd is not gonna beat out 1000 percent free damage every 30 seconds

[serene hare]

Weak enemies dies to everything anyway.

Ops, it was something I was looking, ignore the picture.

[onyx sage]

not really in legendary...

[serene hare]

In legendary I'd not be using this build anyway.

[onyx sage]

you should, it's the best build for it rn

[shy willow]

It is possibly the most potent pve build in the game especially on legendary

[serene hare]

But I don't have the Regulus, why would I do it?

[onyx sage]

only practicality holds it back

you can use m870 still

[shy willow]

^ m870 headhunter goes hard

Wait does pummel boost scale with headhunter

[onyx sage]

yes, it gives weapon damage, hh scales with weapon damage

[shy willow]

Ahh

[serene hare]

Which talent?

[onyx sage]

pummel

[serene hare]

I think I can get my build to deal 10 million when optimizing and, with luck, getting a Forge with HSD.

[shy willow]

Someone pull up the legendary aviary clip

Ah found it

[worldly mountain]

now that is what I called a stopping white armored army

[ancient dune]

whoa a dien clip

[shy willow]

The real binoculars

[onyx sage]

headhunter

[shy willow]

headhunter

[surreal depot]

Chameleon

[magic pilot]

Deconstruct?

[serene hare]

Donkey

[shy willow]

Yes please

[steel rampart]

I’d forget about forge and consider using the bulwark shield which you can also pair with technician specialization for the skill tier towards your shield.

I recorded this during the weekly leg project because I thought the shock traps looked cool. I do drop stacks at one point but eventually recover after putting on some sunglasses. Aside from crazy high damage the ability to blow up entire spawns brings me immense joy and satisfaction knowing that drone operator never got to spam us with his toys. The regulus is just something you have to try out in this game. I think you’d love it

[onyx sage]

or firewall, for the damage. i'm hitting 20m+ easily here

[shy willow]

Having a foamer goes so hard

[onyx sage]

thanks @vestal ibex

[magic pilot]

Buddy had foam and future

Demo and survivalist buffs

[shy willow]

DPS players' wildest dreams

[serene hare]

Dammit, I bet my ass I can go CD 10x in a row and I'll not get a Regulus.

[shy willow]

You can do CD infinitely and not get a regulus brother

It's a raid exclusive

[serene hare]

Even worse, then

No one is doing IH now

and I don't know how to play it.

[shy willow]

You don't have to be skilled or knowledgeable to do a raid just head to Gcrock or the community server and find a group

Tell them it's your first time and have a striker build ready and just do what they say

Ez clapz

Then just do what the project says and there's your regulus

[serene hare]

Last time I tried this, the team was filled with people who also didn't know what to do.

[shy willow]

Then find one that isn't

[serene hare]

Well, there's the problem

[shy willow]

There are plenty to go round

[serene hare]

there's no one playing it.

[shy willow]

There are plenty of raiders

[serene hare]

So I'm the unluckiest person alive, because I get 30 minutes queue and nothing.

[shy willow]

Are you matchmaking on discovery

[serene hare]

Yes.

[shy willow]

Completely pointless

[serene hare]

Wait, why?

Isn't this the standard mode to get exotics, or this is just DH?

[onyx sage]

no, you need normal difficulty

raids on discovery are pointless

[serene hare]

Ok, and how the hell do I get into a group?

[onyx sage]

you need to post lfg, #lfg-raid-pc

[serene hare]

Aw, come on

Like this chat is active

Guess I'll just never have this weapon.

[brittle bloom]

There's other discords that help with raids on all platforms like gcrock

[tame flax]

Imagine if this one gonna be able to follow instructions in raid.

[real blade]

Guys i need your help. I’ll be sending my gear pieces. And i need your advices

Is it okay if i send bunch of images?

[magic pilot]

Yes

[real blade]

My gears.

My stats.

My mask

Armor

[solar sable]

Get more CHD instead of CHC mods, as you'll do more damage

don't focus a lot in chc for now

[real blade]

Holsters

[solar sable]

More like this

[real blade]

Kneepads and gloves

[real blade]

Waw this is really great!

[solar sable]

Instead of using Lady Death get a St Elmo's and Lefty or ACS-12

[real blade]

I do have elmos and acs-12

And for the smgs?

Should i try to get dark winter?

[solar sable]

nope, there are better options than dw

I prefer AR and shotgun

[real blade]

Noted, and how about chameleon? Is it good?

[gentle lichen]

Not as consistent

[solar sable]

Not really, but keep it

or better, junk it

[gentle lichen]

I suggest having a secondary with preservation on your build

[real blade]

Alright guys. Thank you so much.

I’ll be back soon with the update

[serene hare]

Jesus, that exotic Dragunov is actually very good.

Sure, it's not the most damaging sniper, but damn.

Seriously tho, why do I get 18 million damage with 1 shot of my Magnum the second one gets 29 million and the third to beyond falls to 9 million? It makes no sense.

[onyx sage]

dodge city shenanigans

the second shot does the most damage then it drops down to non-dodge city buffed damage

[serene hare]

Ngl, this is kinda stressful.

Does it work the same with the Regulus?

[onyx sage]

yes, because you're using dodge city

it can get north of 40m on second shot

[serene hare]

This makes me wanna keep this new build (which was intended to be a sidearm build) into a Sniper 2 build, take a look

This sniper is surprisingly very strong.

And if I need, I have this damn sidearm to deal this damage in a short time.

[shy willow]

Swap the prophet out for a d50 w determined

[serene hare]

And if I completely forget about the very existance of the sidearm, I can equip this and get more armor damage of the Airaldi set.

[serene hare]

Not a Prophet.

And I hate D50.

[shy willow]

One headshot is all it takes then you one tap nearly everything

[serene hare]

One shot with that recoil is all that takes to make me sick.

Ngl, the more I'm trying this Dread Edict, the least I wanna get further into this sidearm build.

[onyx sage]

it's fun

[serene hare]

Fun when you have it, when you don't (like the idiot here) it's not.

'-'

Cool, now this build with a god rolled max damage + max armor damage Liberty is consistently dealing named hitkill, and with one of my lucky numbers (125).

Ok, now this is kinda scary.
This is basically the damage of my Nemesis, is this right?

[coral kindle]

Hi I'm new to the game and have only played for 4 hours. Looking for a beginner build. And would like to know when and where I can farm it

[solar sable]

Have you finished WoNY? If yes, look at the 📌 spreadsheet and farm for a Striker build.

mb I had that copied

[serene hare]

Ok, now I want Regulus again ('-_-).

[coral kindle]

No, I started with the main story

[hazy steeple]

@coral kindle Builds only really matter once you've finished WONY, before that think of it as a tutorial and just try new stuff out as you get it.

[ancient dune]

if that's with dodge city, it's bugged in the range

gives the effect of 2x stacks iirc

[coral kindle]

So no build is necessary for the whole story?😕

[ancient dune]

yeah always use the highest levelled equipment you find

[hazy steeple]

The one caveat is if you're struggling, throw on a couple of blue cores and have the rest red. It'll make your time much easier.
but you don't need-need it.

[coral kindle]

Ok can you at least recommend me some good weapons to look out for during the story?

[shy willow]

Literally any work during the story

Rest is preference

[hazy steeple]

The basic idea of everything below Lvl 40 (aka: having finished WONY) is to try out everything you find to see what works for you.
You'll likely find a favourite or two.

[hexed steppe]

Basically under 40 you'll look for the following:
for dps weapon damage builds you'll basically look for red cores. Crit chance/damage attributes. Weapon damage brand bonus.
Assault rifles/smg will do well. Talents that increase weapon damage will fit here.

Skill builds are pretty easy as well. Yellow cores with skill damage/skill haste rolls. Wyvern/hanna u and any other brand with skill attributes bonus like duration/haste/damage. Can round out with weapon damage pieces and have it kinda hybrid.
Skill damage talents fit here

You'll have limited brandsets until after wony.

To echo others just use the best you got as you climb

[grim birch]

Is the ninja bag good now? Since they buff 2nd and third attributes of the high end brands

[solar sable]

I'd say it's still a newbie trap

[grim birch]

Yeah it was never good in the first place lol

Vigilance is still king

[devout iris]

Does anyone got a pvp build that I can try? Cause I never dove into pvp that often and decided to do it

[versed summit]

It's good. If you can't find a single relevant backpack talent to your build... and there isn't an exotic that would do more than ninjabike for your build. Then it's good.

[dense seal]

So no and never.

[versed summit]

you're the one who runs it on your healer build lol.

but yeah, basically

[dense seal]

2.8 Mil on Ally Repair Tick . . . . That is the only reason

[vestal ibex]

I was sniping tho. Jailbroken to thank.

[coral kindle]

Alright got it, thank you. It will take some time but what do I do when I'm lvl 40?

[glossy scarab]

then you really start the game

[hexed steppe]

Once you beat keener in the final mission you'll get access to a bunch more gear and an shd watch that will boost different attributes. At that point you'll be able to farm some solid builds depending on your preferred playstyle. Those builds can be found in the spreadsheet pinned to this channel.
All proven and up to date for current season

[placid lion]

Head into the Pinned Messages and look in the Google Sheets link labeled “Division 2 Gear Spreadsheet” there’s a little tab toward the top labeled PvP basics and starter builds. Click on the underlined Evernote thing and take a peeek

[magic pilot]

I think ninjas only real use is healers

[tawdry flare]

5.11

[versed summit]

Is it really better than safeguard tho tbh? I know your DZ healer is an exception.

[magic pilot]

I think it depends, for niche uses it has a spot

[onyx sage]

ninjabike 5p improv

[tulip charm]

Do you have an explosive build ready for hollywood ge?

or seeker spam?

[tawdry flare]

Yeah

[tulip charm]

Man Im gonna enjoy hitting 18m nukes

[grim plank]

Any build advice for a pvp build with Oreo?

[hexed steppe]

New godmode meta incoming

[hexed steppe]

Cannot wait for hollywood 😍

[tulip charm]

hell yeah 3x explosive damage and range is gonna be funny

[jagged hare]

I just finished Warlords. I don’t have a build - have just used best gear. I know there are lots builds and tools out there, but a lot seem to be high end e.g., based around an exotic having a full specialisation library etc.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a nice starter build to use in the early endgame while I ramp up?

Thanks in advance

[flint wave]

Strikers battlegear

with backpack and coyotes if u want damage

[hazy steeple]

obligatory: ceska chest w/obliterate talent to go along with it.

[wanton hornet]

re: striker with coyote's. what crit chance should you aim for pre coyote buff?

[hazy steeple]

Striker mostly uses the mid-buff when it's an AR, so go for about 50% chc, and over 100% CHD.

[serene hare]

1886 with Determined is oddly satisfying.

I knew I could make this weapon to work someday.

[wanton hornet]

ya it's my offhand for my lvl 30 sniper

[pliant gull]

I have a Aces & Eights build with Chainkiller and Vigilance. Do you think that would work? I like this build, but having a offhand that's quicker than my Mantis would be great.

I've tried Relic, too. What's the quickest MR in terms of fire rate?

Using a MR would benefit from the Aces gear. Rifles don't get the Aces gear bonus.

[wanton hornet]

If at 40 I would rather go Hotshot, If at 30, Chainkiller is not available unless you've crafted one. (so just normal Headhunter, not perfect)
Not sure re: RoF as I have not checked too closely. Remember that Relic's Perfect Determined does not proc itself like normal Determined does.

Fox's Prayer kneepads gives rifle damage ofc

[pliant gull]

Ah, yes. I found a build guide recently and it shows that exact build. Hope I didn't junk my Hotshot gear recently. lol Thanks!

Ah, that extra handling eliminates much sway. And the RNG of the card gimmick can be irksome.

[hexed steppe]

If you use stability mods and push stability to 100%+ then there is no sway

[serene hare]

Seriously, I need to test this somewhere, it can't be possible that this damage is real.
Ok, it's only two shots, but this value is absurd.

[hexed steppe]

What weapon?

[serene hare]

Liberty.

[bronze hound]

thats totally possible

what is that 29m?

[hexed steppe]

29 then 45

[serene hare]

I think someone said before that this is a glitch on the training area when using Dodge City.

[bronze hound]

sounds like dch

[serene hare]

Glitch or bug, Idk.

[bronze hound]

or neither

im pretty sure you can hit 45 with a liberty

[hexed steppe]

Yeah it's probably not as great. Liberty you kinda negate the talent on a hs build since body shots build the weapon damage stacks and headshots use stacks to repair shield.

[bronze hound]

you definitely cant hit that consistently

[hexed steppe]

Determined d50 will do the same but be able to chain body shots as headshots

[serene hare]

Well, I can use a normal D50 with Determined.

[serene hare]

It's only 2 shots.
After that it falls to 12 million.

[bronze hound]

well yeah definitely

[serene hare]

I hate D50 for it's disgusting recoil, but if it's only to shot twice, I think I can try to farm it.

[bronze hound]

show pic of build

[serene hare]

Damn, getting a D50 is hard enough, imagine having one with good damage and dttooc or hsd...

[hexed steppe]

Liberty is d50 as well...

[bronze hound]

yeah that sounds about right

[serene hare]

Yes, but Liberty don't have Determined, fella.

[bronze hound]

45 doesnt shock me with that lol

[hexed steppe]

No shit sherlock

[serene hare]

Then why are you telling me that?

[hexed steppe]

Recoil comment

[serene hare]

I have stressed enough that I hate D50 for it's recoil, but if I get one only to shoot twice to get this damage, I think I can ignore it, that's what I'm saying.

There's anything that's too hard to understand?

[bronze hound]

this server as toxic as ever i see

[hexed steppe]

Should look into regulus

[serene hare]

Yeah, I know that, but it's easier to find a Elmo inside a random case in the streets than finding a raid group for IH.

[bronze hound]

thats false

[serene hare]

That's not.

[bronze hound]

youre just not looking in the right places then

[hexed steppe]

Lots of agents here will take you through.

I recently got mine because if some epic agents carrying me

[bronze hound]

recently?

[hexed steppe]

Couple months ago

[bronze hound]

it took you that long?

[hexed steppe]

I dont raid really

Also no eb or oreo 😂

[bronze hound]

ya see id boot up the game to do something but theres nothing to do

[serene hare]

@bronze hound What I said is so true that it happened to me.

[bronze hound]

im confused how thats related to this discussion

[serene hare]

'-'

[devout agate]

Do headshot damage builds with the bighorn kill faster than ouro?

[bronze hound]

that implies its hard to find an elmo in a case around the streets

[bronze hound]

not even close

[devout agate]

I just went against someone in dz with a headshot bighorn build and he melted everyone

[serene hare]

So it's even harder to find IH groups to me.

[bronze hound]

i dont really have anything else to say other than get better

[serene hare]

In that #lfg-raid-pc at least.

[bronze hound]

if youre only looking for raids in one place then thats why you aint finding any

[serene hare]

Well, where else should I look for?

[bronze hound]

that one persons discord

[serene hare]

Who?

[bronze hound]

local probably knows idfk i havent played in months

[hexed steppe]

I can hook you up with the community discord in a bit. Plenty of raiders that dont mind teaching/carrying there

[devout agate]

What do u use for pvp

[bronze hound]

mate i havent played this game in months

[serene hare]

Well

[hexed steppe]

I wasnt gonna send anything unsolicited. 😅
I'll dm since links get flagged here

[hexed steppe]

Sent📨

[formal roost]

Heartbreaker build any suggestions

[solar sable]

HB Build from Spreadsheet

[shy willow]

I told you to check Gcrock and the community server dude😭

[serene hare]

What is this again?

[flint wave]

commendation score

[serene hare]

And what does that mean?

[onyx sage]

commendation = achievement

[serene hare]

Got like 6 D50s, none slightly how I need it to be

and I'm already bored.

[blissful marsh]

Not sure if this is the right spot but where do I find the Memento backpack? Been farming countdown and floor 10.

[hazy steeple]

Best asked in #ask-td2-community, but since it's slow I might as well.
Same place as about 90% of loot in div2:

then either Countdown+caches, or stack up Directives.```

Once you've done that, you've negated RNG as much as you can, after that it's just down to time and luck.

[hexed steppe]

can further negate rng with proper Lootcifer sacrifices.
🔥 😈 🔥

[shy willow]

Burn all your DZ exclusives😈

[tulip charm]

Download more luck

[final iron]

Would The Mop be a suitable fill in for RockinRoll or ACS12

[inland plinth]

for me personally no its not got the rate of fire needed but then again that depends on the build your using it with, i honestly don't think it does well for build stacks like HB or strikers but that's just me.

[vestal ibex]

ACS is the best stacking weapon and that's why it's suggested as the meta for it. Other options will work and if you like it for preference then just use what you like.

[final iron]

copy thT im just learning strikers

[inland plinth]

if your using the rock n roll then just stick with it honestly and always remember to grab ammo at restocks and don't reload before switching to your other weapon, i tend to shoot till its below 20 ammo then swap to my other and continue mowing down the enemies. works the best honestly oh yea what's your striker build your running btw?

[tawdry flare]

Finally new meta dropped

[solar sable]

dark hours + iron horse = Dark Horse
Nice

[hazy steeple]

It'll take you Iron Hours to finish it.

[serene hare]

Wtf is this

Is this a Horse Hours build?

[tawdry flare]

It grants access to exclusive dark 🐴 raid

[shy willow]

5️⃣.1️⃣1️⃣

[tulip charm]

The fact that its on Reddit makes it funnier

[shy willow]

Needs a better pistol

Mosquito perhaps

[solar sable]

idk which one should I keep

[serene hare]

Only need to keep optimizing this shit now...

[tulip charm]

Just pick whatever looks prettier to you

Also @magic pilot your thoughts on umbra in pvp

[shy willow]

I've been seeing a whole bunch of umbra/ninja in dz

[solar sable]

a very harsh decision...

[magic pilot]

I don't use it ever

Some try for fun not really good though

[solar sable]

I'll just keep it for the 5.11 lover we have here

[faint dagger]

Smg viable in dz pvp?

[onyx sage]

how is solo roosevelt btw

[tawdry flare]

Solo roose ? LEGO

[solar sable]

can't pass thru the first encounter, they shoot me from behind a car :(

[onyx sage]

oh you ran back out there