#td2-build-advice
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How do you report problems with getting on division 2
if its the same problems as everyone else. they know about it
Is it something went wrong problem
the update last night caused a bunch of problems, on playstation at least
Ok thanks
Just got this. Should I max out DTA and use it over my Baker's Dozen?
If you don't care about it being a not great gun go wild
Why isn't it good it looks like it would synergize great with my Pyromaniac
Have you tried shooting it before?
No just got it
Try it first then report back
The sway is kinda brutal
Sway doesn't seem any worse than my Baker's Dozen and does ok DMG
Baker's Dozen just just a little less DMG
But the synergy with my Pyromaniac and the speed debuff sounds nice
Plus I have Trauma on my chest so I can do 3 status effects every 30 seconds
I also have a nice Pristine Example with CHD and CHC
Is the Sacrum Optic 8x? or is it 4x like other ACOGs?
Yeah that is FAIL. The optic is only 4x so no bonus on the Pristine Example
yep, and the other part is that the semi auto snipers being worse rifles is a long running design issue
Just use it a bit first and see how it fully plays before you start rolling it
But to me its a pass
they can't kill in one shot and so they can't trigger the one talent that makes the bolt actions usable at endgame
also the Sacrum's talent itself is tons of setup for little impact
Well considering that on my Baker's Dozen I can get up to almost 3 mil a shot with Pristine Example and Sacrum is stuck at 1.5 mil it's not worth it
Plus on the BD I get misses refunded lol
And I might need that sometimes
ok more often than not
realistically you're "expected" to use the Sacrum at some point due to the expertise system, it's no good but while you're here you can just put it in your second weapon slot while splitting heads with Baker's Dozen
still collects proficiency XP, albeit slower
I like to switch between my BD and Pyro though
Ya its unfortunate but the gun is a own one and then it's a component after that
I was just happy because it was a god roll and looked like it might make my kit better but it's a bust
If I could put an 8x on it I would love it
Why would they put a 4x on an MR?
When on doubt, when you get a new exotic with good roles, it's probably trash
boomerang or flatline depending on the spec used
Ranger, flatline, boomerang
That too
if you run a bunch of blue cores optimist is an option as well
What about Rifleman? Would that be better than Boomerang?
if you maintain headshots it can be. boomerang is much more manageable
Lots of RNG in Boomerang while Rifleman is just be good
I do have a lot of CHC on my set though
just to give an example of my rifle selection for different builds.
personally i like flatline best. its always up and active with the linked laser from tech class
then boomerang is the goto
God roll FAMAS
For foundry bulwark, should I use incoming repair or repair skill mods? I never know which is best to use
I think I might try Boomerang first then if I don't lkike it try Rifleman
You can recalibrate the same slot again right after you do it once?
Yeah you can I just tested it on a junk piece, been so long since I played wasn't sure
yeah, its actually best to keep the talent able to roll. kinda future proofs the weapon if you ad expertise and then the meta talents change
Yeah I have so many god rolled guns just sitting in my stash because of the way they treated us in year 2 lol
Basically ruined all my builds from year 1
Hey does anyone have a good DZ build? something that can usually win face trades?
I think you need level 25 expertise for that now as I just get hammered in the DZ now
As 3 is the highest expertise I have since coming back
Then there is the cheaters that literally warp to you to one shot you after calling extraction
It's kind of sad really that UBI hasn't figured out how to make the DZ cheat free
Got a Mantis with max armor damage
Specially considering that this was the original extraction shooter that seem to be so popular now
Not true at all
Look up lyrical fighter on YouTube. He plays dz with no expertise
yeah well the guys I've been running into they are expertise 25 on everything
That matters a good bit
Yea that's who he fights too lmao
I am not lyrical fighter lol
He just recently hit 1k shd too
I am 430 something I haven't played in like 3 years lol
Well I played a lot before the watch was even introduced
Should I optimize first or recalibrate first on a piece?
Sooo does it really matter what build i need? i know 50% CHC and about 100 CHD is great but would it be better to have like 5 armor core and 1 wpn dmg for survivability while fighting?
probably recal to get the stat you want
or is it just grind my ass off expertise lmao
And is the Core Attribute cheaper to optimize than the other Attributes?
i dont know about that specifically but a good rule of thumb if you arent swimming in SHD levels is make sure a piece is like 75+% "perfect" before you start using your mats cause it can get expensive
Is this telling me that with one Optimization it will max out at 15%?
yes
cool so cheaper to optimize Core then Recal the skill haste
Yes
So I should 100% go CHC on the knees then right?
CHD
CHD?
if youre using foxes and need chc then its a damage loss
critical hit damage
also good is skill damage for oxi builds and headshot damage for headhunter builds
Is CHD not as easy to come by here as it is in TD1?
Actually yeah I am rocking sub 100% CHD good call
no, its just that using that piece you lose an attribute, and if you are at a chc deficit then a ceska piece would be better
wait that was for the wrtong gun
whats the build
How do I toggle guns again?
hold g
could you post atop view of the build, like this
Not bad
I did CHD
you should be at a higher chd, also missing mods in mask and bag
are you rolling headshot damage on the pieces?
Now my Holster and Knees are maxed
154.3% HSD
is that good or do I need it higher?
this is what my highend looks like stat wise
i would pick either crit or hsd. its counter productive to run both
Is CHD and HDS additive or multiplicitive?
I can't remember?
Like compared to each other
everything is additive with itself, multiplicative to other categories. other than amps which are multiplicative to everything
chd and hsd are additive together in a category
I remember someone doing a vid years ago that you want to not go too far into one stat train where he broke down how all the DMG types worked with each other
so how does TWD interact with say an assaults rifles dmg
would that be multiplicative but AR dmg itself be addiitive
its additive to other total weapon damage talents. multiplicative to the red cores
if you only have 1 source of twd it acts like an amp tho
hmm
something like memento would be additive the the regular red cores as well
Is there a gearset that is good for Rifles?
nego
Negotiator's Dilemma due to the transferred critical damage
Sucks because I love Rifles in this game
guess which weapon class has an inherent extra critical damage bonus?
Rifles
but its all about crit
also might make it a bit easier on your mouse clicking finger
click on target until you get the negotiator's mark, repeat on second, repeat on third, then click on biggest and baddest of the three - by the time they're dead the other two will be too due to the damage transfer
?
yup, crits into the target transfer to the marked npcs.
crits on the npcs mark them as well
what is negotiators dilemma?>
I don't have any of those
Which chest talent is good for Striker?
Wouldn't that be better on an SMG?
when using the nego bag it ups the transfer from 60% to 100%
obliterate, focus or striker chest
no, it's good on anything
also consider Unbreakable if you're new to playing all red
Oh I have a holster
ar/rifle best for it. if you keep a lot closer to the enemy smg could be good
I think the Striker chest is kinda underwhelming, unless if the weapon have crazy fire rate
garbage holster lol
i ran nego scorpio back in the day as a close range dps set. it fared pretty well with HF but a bit glass
you can use acs to stack fast. striker chest is beneficial if you have a lot of tanky targets and can constantly keep stacking
striker itself already requires a weapon with high fire rate. striker chest is a bonus
use a shotgun because each pellet can stack
I mean, I think I did quite well with my PP-19
nowhere near as fast as acs
Here is the Striker build I have
Ok, but I don't think I needed it.
no contractor, use ceska
you don't need anything better until you do
Elmo?
yeah the exotic ar
Ceska better than 10% LMG DMG?
yes
Oh, the electric shit, I don't have it.
I never have to reload though
I have the holster tho
that's regarding bullet king which i'm not commenting on yet, but ceska is better
but bullet king is also terrible compared to a gr9 with steady handed which does the exact same thing but better
You don't like Bullet King do you?
no, because it's bad
Bullet King would be ok if it had something else going on.
So stable thoiugh
you have to realize certain weapons in this game are powercrept by newer guns
And no reload
Every LMG is stable
gr9 also has no reload and is stable with steady handed
LMG reload is terrible
you barely played the game so i'm introducing you to the stuff you may have missed
Ok, that's not really a problem.
The problem is not really compensating for it.
What is GR9?
a LMG
named?
no, normal
how does it have no reload
steady handed talent
SO I should ditch the Bullet King for a GR9 with Steady Hands?
fyi, the pinned spreadsheet in this channel lists most things you need to know including talents on gear and weapons
and yes
I wish Chatterbox was good
Chatterbox isn't good now?
I tried on my striker build and it felt pretty underwhelming
Was it ever?
falls off hard at Heroic and Heroic with multiple players as it can't kill reliably and can't benefit from the talent reliably
My PP-19, which is not even optimized, was far better.
hell yeah it was
of course it's not going to work with Striker as the ROF side of the talent means you must be close, and on all red Striker it's a fine line between being close and being face down ass up
My Chattebox got me though tons of content
again you haven't tried a lot of stuff
you're in a channel where people who no lifed this game have been through everything
yeah
I got like 400 hours in then left lol
because TD1 was better I think
Where I have a thousand hours in that
this game plays completely differently
faster
and it's more skill-based play
TD2 is way faster than TD1
the movement is better and you can actually melee bait
cover to cover doesn't feel scuffed
(before this update anyway)
Debatable
cover to cover can make you take close to no damage
it's not that much of an effect in div1
Play legendary you won't think so lol
And it's way faster, which can be good
legendary in div2 is a lot harder
Legendary is so much harder then div 1
ehh
1000%
I don't think so
i mean if you don't believe go ahead and try
I have
which ones have you soloed
I played div 1 as a 12-15 year old and did better than div 2
why do you think I play a sniper?
which ones have you soloed
Well you got older you ggot gud
doesn't mean it's easy
Opposite of what I said but sure
doesn't help your point either
All missions have a format
you either bring gear to defeat it or you lose
TD1 is the same as TD2
except that's not the point
it is though
the point is div2 legendary is harder even if you bring the best gear
it's also a skill check and that's what we're discussing
Skill checks in this game demostrably low
so please go solo DUA and come back
Why? It's a multiplayer game
Open Party, Start mission
it's so you don't get carried
Wait, you just said that solo missions are super easy, yet you want me to prove myself by doing a solo mission>?
i never said that, i said legendary in div2 is hard and legendary in multi is easy
then too bad you can't prove your point
I don't even know what point you think I had that I can't prove
Is it that I said TD2 was easier?
Because that is demonstratable that it is
Just go solo landmarks
in heroic
Ok, I think I found my build with a P90 (until I get one with better stats).
heroic is super easy bro
I'll make use of the Bee pistol.
yeah it is and that is my point
where in this did i say heroic
Legendary in TD1 is hard too though, you need a specific build to win it. Same as TD2
you just need striker
Go solo legendary in your striker build
no because it takes effort and i don't have to do that here
That's true, I imgine it would be hard to figure out how to solo all the TD1 missions on you Striker build for videos
dude, just look on youtube for all the runs where they all use classy striker
i don't have to prove to you because someone else already did
Well if you do videos I'm sure you have one of your own right that I can go watch?
i do not do div1 videos
So you do all your solo vids in TD2?
yes
just click on his channel
Or search up "6 red solo legendary" on yt(old outdated videos tbhtbh)
how do I do that?
This dudes cheating. he got KB/M prompts but he is bouncing between targets like he got aim assist active

of course that's what you're going to say
that's called knowing the AI
memorizing spawns is kindof a thing in div2
yeah no i'm done with you
This dude is aimbotting to the extreme
this is quite the funny topic..
The more I watch this video I laugh
literally no one serious has said anything about it
wants proof, gets proof, cries cheater instantly.
With Hacks all things are possible
Does anyone know rotoblitz yt name?
have you thought about getting good first and then realizing you yourself can do it
I can't find it
go watch this if you want to look at aim god https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waWn5nhrAso
There we go, now I subbed lol
my question is how can anyone watch this video and think yeah that is all him aiming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMa44_aVPVA
Have you watched competitive gaming?
It's and obvious bot
he moves too mechanically to the next target once he kills one
i doubt you would know the difference between bot and good.
its situational awareness and deep muscle memory for the spawn locations. its actually quite easy to achieve fine tuned aim
I know bots
Man looked at one TAS video and concluded every run that is flawless is one
We've all seen his videos lol
Your proof is his video or is it your skewed vision of what a good player is?
yeah and you don't think him buoncing through targets mechanically is a little bit of a give away?
He's using M/KB right?
Local man discovers target reacquisition
yet when an enemy tracks infront of the one he was shooting at drags his aim away you don't find that suspicious?
dont bring my name into this

That would've been the case if i said localdick which in a way he is lmao
Boy do i have news for you...
so, you're saying the guy whose name is Binoculars is cheating?
He has streamed his gameplay at the community server.
what's that?
You might wanna sit down for this...
I'm already sitting what do you think I have a standing desk?
if you feel he is, go ahead and forward his video to ubi.. not supposed to be throwing accusations #unofficial-troubleshooting has pinned links
It's possible
the one and only
Ubi, the people that I send multiple reports to only to be kilkled by the same cheaters in the DZ
yup, those guys
I'm hoping I can cheat like binoculars one day
Um, guys, we are at the wrong channel, if you don't mind
I think we can all just sit back a realize that Ubi doesn't care about the division and cheaters at this point
This all started about a build
ik, I've scrolled
this is all just kinda bs trolling at this point.. im not givving any more air to the windbag 🥱
He's talking about you but yes
He was probably talking about me here but I don't care
I'm gonna watch his run in a bit
Why is your quality so weird
1080p it's low def
You don't have pfp pics either?
no
we all agree
what do I need pfp for?
more seperation between messages. easier to read
pfft
its not for the PFP itself just the UI layout
I'm not even sure what your discord is lol
its compact mode
wait you guys care about pfp?
...
well they follow a cheater
Probably a little bit of aimbot and a screen of ESP on top
Oh absolutely
So if I master a run that perfectly, master my aim, etcetera, I would be considered a cheater just because I got better?
me when i get called a cheater for playing too much legendary
what did bro even do to get called an ESP user when bots spawn in the same spot every time
Personally, I respect you and all the veteran agents tbh
it's not even offensive at this point to be called a cheater, it's more validation tbh
watch the YT if you know cheating you can see it
cant know cheating without cheating first
define "the yt"
The Youtube
i googled the youtube and dont see any division 2 gameplay
need more detailed instructions
^
This one is even more egregious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reL9XOEpYSM
nothing looks sketchy to me besides maybe some of the flicks. AI movement is pretty damn predictable. after playing a billion hours its not hard to track AI.
flicks in this setting is basically just aim trainers. I can make flicks stupid fast when nothing is moving mate. Hes not cheating
sends a link to the easiest legendary mission
let me see how many mobile data I have left so I can watch the run
cope
He is flicking right onto the body or head of the next target
yea its called aiming.
yeah aimbotting
so being able to flick frrom one target to another auto means cheating
What if I told you that you have a higher headshot % than him? @silent storm
at that consistency, yes it does
Damn, y'all still on this, been over an hour
Pefect hits everytime
You hit more headshots I think you are cheating
its a cherry picked run out of hundreds? ofc his best times are when everything was done perfectly?
Only thing I see wrong about the videos is having light bloom and whatnot
That's the real crime here
My HS% is garbage
and also how can you see that?>
So my stats are out there online?
Yep
Where?
Dien is under 10%
He doesn't need HSD he is botting
you pay for TRN or something
Isac network
Check for yourself
It's private sorry
My question is what are Elite kills?
Yellow enemies
Seems I have 0 of those
Tracker.gg is inaccurate
bro has never stepped foot in the DZ
24h played and he's judging someone who has 5k or more
Nah DZ is too wild here
I am at 6% also even roterblitz is under 10% and that guy is monster
Cheaters and now rank 25 expertise
Odder has 20% lol
Lol I can't believe someone to be more monster than roter blitz
Wait I think I know why @wise swallow do you play pve or PvP mostly ?
I see I mostly play legendary and we get lot of things without heads so that also skews the results
1/4 of my hours are in DZ
lol
DZ level is very easy
I mean all it's doing is dividing headshot/total shots
With skill hits too
It may include shots on drones and stuff
Headshot/(skill hits+bodyshots)
Seems I'm not alone though as I am top 22% in the DZ at 24 hours played lol
Noone like the DZ lol
There is the issue
Completely inaccurate
roterblitz is 1%
No other way to track sadly, Ubisoft doesn't differentiate the 2
Yeah the people that play the DZ love the DZ
but you are a small minority in the game as a whole
that kinda tells you how hard he grinds legendary
Absolutely
to have 99% be body shots or shots on skill proxies
thats a lot of warhounds lol
Becasue noone wants to deal with gear discrepancies and then cheaters on top of it
also when hes using automatic weapons he really doesnt go for headshots
he's after consistency at this point
100%
technically striker headshot would be the fastest build for leg when not HH
but no one uses it in practice
because electronics yeah
because its also impractical to hit that many headshots to be worth it
you would have to basically hit more headshots than the crit chance you can get on striker and then some, because you can also crit on headshots
70% headshot at least
And you look at my stats and laugh but remember I haven't even play for a few years and I am still in the top of a bunch of categories
yeah. that also reminded me of something very underrated about focus striker
easier to hit the head?
forcing you to use 8x means you get 85% hsd
true
Isn't it like 105 on ar?
when are we getting a focus run with the named mpx?
nah because robots end ur career
And sometimes u just can't headshot ppl
^
I'm honestly sad focus is not as great as it was.
Not saying it's bad but the usability has definitely diminished after shield peek is gone
chungas also don't take hsd before helmet break
whats the mpx named again?
safety distance
solo DUA safety distance focus striker
Focused safety distance build
There is one
Bullet King
I mean with the talent rip every ar
Striker is made for Bullet King
Safety distance users when they kill an enemy 0.002 seconds before the talent runs out:
striker is made for any automatic weapon above 600 rpm lol
Afaik strained is 8-9% amp on famas but SMG are quite ahead compared to ar
Fr fr ong?
Never need to reload and as long as you hit someone you gain DMG
Insane discoveries going on rn
safety distance is at least 100k more dps than ARs
he's on his tirade about bullet king again
🤯
What is safety distance?
a talent that needs to refresh on kill
It has the highest damage per mag!
Incomparable!
MPX is 752k F2k is 676k burst dps (no talent on both)
🤯
Bullet king with mag size my beloved
highest sustained dps lol
MPX is The House in TD2
yes, theres a shit version of the house in D2
It WISHES it was the house
At infinity 
called the apartment and its the worst gun in the game
No it is
More like the dorm
The House is an MPX
more like the cardboard box
the underbridge
?? yea we know
The MPX are now dead
where's the apartment
MPX is the worst smg and its better than the top AR lmao
Previously they were busted now they are comparatively weak
Amhurst?
Yeah
this guy is so lost
mud hut is west chechnya

when i open my game and its in windowed mode
don't take him seriously atp
At 5.11 Street
Pyromanic is a great AR
alright well im gonna go for a little bit, need to grind 50 levels tonight
Was*
man procrastinated on his season pass
if i'm staying up i'll let you know
Why was?
Every other ar got buff
(Relatable)
f2000 has accuracy issue
any of you PC sweats willing to let me steal your donation exotics?
someone give him elmo
and most of the orignal weapons lol
This still does work for me
chatterbox and nemesis
no dtoc. Deconstruct
blud recalled the health dmg
how do you mess up reconning a named item lmao
guesses on the role??
swap speed
swap speed
stability
Health DMG is god roll Dark Winter?
not anymore
oh wow thats my first pesti
is that a troll or just someone completely and totally lost
hes lost and confused
late edit
I'm really sorry you had to read through all that
yeah i have a headache now
A word i cannot use describes him perfectly
now I'm lost
so earth is flat
This is my Dark Winter
rip
RIP you only need smg /crit to be max rolled
game and discord just crashed wow
L bozo
it was never meant to be
thats actually wild
want to see mine?
What other named guns are good?
tbh most of them are trash
shield splinter is good
eh
Rock and roll once they fix the stupid magazine ammo bug
normal f2k is better
lefty
I got this one that I have been saving
if your using flatline or just in general
@wise swallow you on rn?
mhm
in general, f2k doesnt take laser
glory daze is beyond ass
ok
oxy thats it
this is true
glory daze good for chems
strained f2k is more burst and fast hands is more sustained the shield splinterer
what use does it have
shooting extremely far with no sway lol
yeah 100% stability = no sway
What about this one should I max it?
actually a good one with OD build
What is OD?
ongoing directive
ahh
its like predators mark from div 1 but worse

only od build I like is the blue scorpio vanguard version
Would this be better than Carnage?
no
Odder i sent you a FR
ew navy plaza is china light rip
who remembers the guy who was in here that hates china lmao
mortar build
not happening lol
What about this what would this work with?
I have a funny copy pasta that goes along with hate china
rip tidal speedruns...
1 sec
become birdie from camp white oak
whats the talent?
Preservation
Six12 just better tbh
a good mortar build is full of unicorns not to mention ive never actually used mortar ever
It's some shit with contractor's and PGC lmao
if im making a build i go for the most optimal
And what kind of build would this fit in?
Could make one for conflict probably
Alright I just got caught up and I really want to see a clip of rowdy playing.
i dont even have mortar pgc on PS and i have the blueprint lol
Maybe pgc isn't necessary
But I take 10% more dmg
you are shooting literally mortars at people who cares
never going back to the glass cannon life
bro didn't play drone turret 😔
theres a reason empress chest is called bot protector
Is that actually skill haste skill damage pgc
could go status/skill dmg for max dmg
Mine is rolled status skill damage ye
I think I like this build.
I'd just wish the talents were swapped, but ok.
Striker chest you won't be using very often
You need like 150 stacks to outdo obliterate
My Ceska chest is very mid tho
gotta farm another one then
Hell no
time to farm
so farming on pc is fine? no loot problems like PS?
Wtf what kinda game do you think you’re playing?
back to countdown 👢 💥 
i havent had any issues
nice
I 1 2 die
only 48 levels of control points left today
Yeah it seems to be just PS I haven't had any issues
Ok, tomorrow I'll try to farm a better chestpiece (or delete myself).
Today I'll sleep earlier, 5:30 instead of only 4 hours (or less).
Rookie numbers
Gotta pump those up
Like what, 3 hours?
Mhm
Monster Hunter Mobile? Wut
T_T

W
Thanks for the chest!
no prob
I need muh habs😔
If you go headshot build strikers, best chest piece would be fenris right
That winter is sexy to look at
Probably, specially if blues
For pve providence
Wouldn't that be more hs on top of already enough hs?
It's still better than Fenris.
for brands like Fenris, Sokolov, etc, the "10% damage" only scales off before you factor in the red core.
So with a full red build, Fenris is only doing like, 2-3% extra damage, not 10%.
so it's actually better to have a bunch of blues there if you want to get closer to the full 10%, as Naval said.
sooo the tl;dr is that there's pretty much nothing else to add that's useful, so Provi works fine.
I see
One of the few major exceptions to this rule is Airaldi, since headhunter basically needs super high base damage.
just got a Aegis mask with max armor core, should I keep it?
Yea why not you would have to use it someday prolly for tanky build
Or to get the attribute for other pieces
there goes one more to the collection
Well are the other stats on it useful for a tank build?
6% skill dmg
remember: you can only change one, so no point in keeping a piece that's junk.
not really I'd say
I have a ton of max rolled gear and idk which one's to keep as my inventory is at 120
Me sitting with 290 thinking of different builds
Just look at it like that, basically.
If you can't make it flawless in 1 recal and a few optimisations, junk it.
120 honestly pick up whatever looks like a unicorn.
gotta be ruthless in div2, you run out of space otherwise.
well, ig I'll make another character so I can use the stash, need a carry tho...
I sorely regret deconstructing my grupo pieces that I didn't know were unicorns
ik, I'm also planning to use them as resources and exo caches from projects
My stash isn't full yet and if it gets I know some stuff there are doggo so I'm alright for now
There's an incredibly high chance that you're carrying stuff that's basically worthless.
Try going through a section later and seeing what can and can't be made flawless.
MY ISSUE IS HAVING 2-3 of the same piece but with CHC/CHD/HSD
Fucking fox's I have all 3 lmao
You should Stash clean at like 295 or something like that imo. Until then pick up what you think would be viable for a build
And ceska chest I only now found 1 where I can roll the talent
I had 3-4 diff ceska until now
I got with hazpro armor and damage core as well as contractors lmao
Here's what I always say to newer players about getting loot, the order is:
Keep if good > Recal Library > Expertise donation > Junk > Sell.
Look at loot like that and you'll cut down a lot.
Yeah but things like skill damage/status effects grupo may not seem good at first sight
Farming for it is a no go since you dont get sht from it
100%
You gotta have knowledge about what you can do with the pieces tbh
You can always get another copy, Countdown makes gaining loot soooooo much faster than it used to be.
I would def insta delete that lol
Ig part of it is because I dont like skill build much
Especially right now, the current League has BT elites as one of the goals? the Hunters in Countdown count.
never a better time to farm it out.
Is there anyway to counter those hunters when they have status immunity besides having to disable it?
Countdown is always a good time to farm
Hard when your team barely has any dps lol
You can almost solo Countdown with a good strikers build.
I dislike the last hunter that guards the computer at containment. Seems to consistently shoot from behind cover
Not when im trying to use foam build and the hunters get stats imm
Grenades make enemies roll out of cover, and make cover-to-cover moves as well. There's a lot you can do to get them moving.
Ngl idc anymore I suffered enough in cd to the point where if my team struggles to kill the first 2 hunters I might just leave lol
Yeh I abuse that when they have that pesky immunity
I guess everyone is used to cc the hunters and not deal with them the old ways
I literally always nade that one
You can nade from above the fences and it will make him roll out
Nah I'm still in the "use an aces" mindset.
Good habit to have
This sounds a lot like you're playing on Heroic CD, don't bother.
Challenging scales almost as well and is a heck of a lot faster.
Yeah Im always heroic
Would't gears be absolutely doggo in challenging though
I canttype today damn
Peeps love that 200 credits
Since countdown has 8 people on the map, the loot scales to halfway heroic on challenging.
Me
I just found out I had this, any suggestions?
And heroic countdown honestly reminds me of div1 type bullet sponge
Heroic CD is weird, since it's like "heroic+" loot, but challenging is like "challenging ++" loot.
so the tl;dr is only bother playing Heroic if it's gonna be faster than Chall'
you can still afford an exotic cache every 2-3 runs.
Oxi users like it due to it making the chem not move but you'd prefer dtoc on that
Roll dttooc on and it's a nice piece for oxi build
Ngl ever since someone mentioned me strikers + scorpio
It kinda shreds
half the time it feels like you're the only one doing anything
When i run countdown i only hear and see elmo
Noice
I am the only person who runs red FI as well lmao
Does it work well in cd?
Elmo users when OD
I'm sure a handful do
Vigilance type buff to every member in the team? Yessir
Don't think I ever saw one ngl
I've seem some blue/yellow mixes
If you want it to be more consistent you'd have a tank with pointman/lavosier
and full healer without technician...
Dude was pretty much waste resource by the end lol
I gotta craft the setup since it's quite important for that kind of build
Lucky me I got a full red one not long ago
That double crit to roll red
Exactly
Actually we may be the only two.
People only like selfish striker 😿
hey I'm not complaining about them putting out the DPS.
I just like keeping them alive so I don't have to meta hug.
Oh yeah the heals from red fi are quite good actually
That 60% bonus fill up 2 to 3 blues players
red FI is a perfect podcast build.
It's more of a, I wish people researched builds to be efficient on that mode
I've seen some messes that I wish I haven't while doing cd
The half brother of red FI is ongoing directive
At least more people seem to run it
Yesterday I saw 2 guys run det sniper build on heroic
I almost exclusively use blue OD on countdown now
Can you even 1 shot the veterans lol?
Bonus armor share type?
Ye
On heroic idk
I thought that was a breaking bad joke for a second and was very confused.
Whats blue OD?
Tank od
Blue overdose? Lmao
Orokin Derelict, you have to use the keys to unlock the vaults though.
We have a mind alike lol
What should I recal skill dmg in a Zero F's for HF build?
Nothing beats hacked defender drone
I did always wonder if the Firefly being awful was a reference to that boring episode.
guess we know now.
Been a long time since I watched that show
The internet ruined it.
Oof
I AM THE ONE WHO BUFFS
I am looking forward to whatever happens with the div movie though, and how they're going to explain the endless drones.
What if they added a healing firefly lol
THE REAL HEISENBUFF?
Honestly i want the revive sticky so bad
It was a clutch back in div1
I was confused when you said sticky in div1 my brain lagged lol
Everything in div1 was broken in its own way
People actually used every skill
We played a very different div1.
Fire turret in 1v1s
Urban mdr+classy predator's mark
Stickies and seekers were popular for tac, mobile cover was popular for wall reaches, turret was busted, smart cover was good fun, defib busted, pulse great in PvP and pve, broken asf support station and ballistic shield broken on d3
With a showstopper and good aim it's still pretty good
better balanced in div2 though.
To be fair you do need good aim
that's 1 gun, and we're talking about skills.
Not hard to achieve on pc
With how much gearboxes and item boxes that exist in div 2 a loot pulse could've been great
Nah I need my support running full skill so my pulse gives me 50% crits
we have the CP buff though
Rofl that shit was somthing else n div
You actually do have a "loot pulse", it just only works for material containers, and only after you donate enough to the Control Points.
Sticky 1 shots lmao
If you ever want a fun time, max out the solar farm donations and then go for a wander.
Yeah but with how they reworked gear/weapon caches you really look for those instead
fun fact: it also highlights friendly NPCs as well, instead if just hostiles
A lot of the caches aren't actually scaled.
source: I used to and still open a LOT.
It's not TL that I'm referring to, the LZ crates drop purples with high regularity.
what I think happened is that they need to be done individually and some were missed.
I consistently open the caches around the descent entrance on heroic and they do drop heroic quality loot
I don't remember getting a purple from it
^
Side note What was funny to me is that their fix of the cache that is next to the descent entrance is just to move it to the left lol
Cause players who wanted to open it accidentally went into descent instead
Flashbacks to when loot drops near ammo boxes
Gotta look away from the damn thing to loot it
||I moaned in my head by seeing that almost god rolled oreo||
How many rerolls are we talking?
Perfect
Can I upgrade exotic weapons/equipment with gear score 500 to level 40 or are these items junk?
which is better?
i mean if both were maxxed out
idk if i should replace my knee pads for fox prayer im running striker build
Fenris isn't as good as it seems, since the "10% ar damage" scales off before you have red cores applied.
So it's actually closer to a 2% buff.
the tl;dr for strikers is that Fox's knees are only really useful on there if you are using the strikers chest, since otherwise what you need is a ceska w/obliterate.
that is assuming you are using the meta setup with Coyotes mask.
What even is the build gonna be used for
Yeah im using coyotes mask, should I grind for the fox prayer?
Your average full red dps?
Yeah, solo targeting
Well fox's is always handy to have
not on a strikers build in most cases though.
Grupo is kinda a subpar choice compared to ceska, even if you have the chc without it.
It's a good choice for when you don't want to run coyote's because 2 people are already using it
Fox's + ceska/gruppo and problem solved
If you don't need coyotes, then go ceska+fox. the dtooc is always good.
basically, you only ever want the Strikers chest if you are using it in situation where enemies have massive health pools,
e.g. Incursions, Legendary, some situations in Countdown, etc.
the vast majority of the time, you just want the ceska chest w/obliterate instead.
Ceska is basically a must on striker. If not using coyote you need to dedicate some attribute space to chc anyways... I would just use grupo at that point over foxs
which specializations is good for early world tier 1?
Tech or gunner
Run tech and something with future perfect 4-5 skill tier
Most likely you haven’t done the challenges yet so you haven’t unlocked tech or gunner, therefore I’d say sharpshooter (tac 50) - easiest one to get ammo for
Flashbang grenades also the most useful
year one pass coming in clutch
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For a striker pve build use fenris with obliterate. Coyotes if no one is using it. The rest 4pc striker with crit chance and some crit damage.
I like to run two sokolov, chest/holster with 4pc striker
Actually Fenris is subpar to Ceska, as the 10% ar damage from it only scales off pre-red cores. So with full reds it's more like 2-3%.
since Strikers is a gearset, it only has 1 proper attribute slot, so it even beats out Grupo.
Add in that usually using gearsets can make you lack crits due to 1 attribute on 4 pieces so crit brands have more value
as above, ceska is better than fenris for full red
And yes that applies to Elmo with its excessive crit chance.
more space to stack up that beautiful CHD.
Ceska and fenris is a must together
no, coyote and ceska is best
xd
fenris doesn't add that much value since you have that much weapon damage
On a AR build? Lmfao
yes. do you know the formula
😂😂😂😂
if you take the time to add up all your weapon damage, you'll see that you end up around 230% weapon damage before fenris
Well you are free to test it in-game to see for yourself
fenris makes it 240%, meanwhile your crit is low enough that getting more crit is better
tl;dr you have too much weapon damage so getting more isn't as good as boosting a lower stat
The less attributes that are rolled to CHC the better, honestly.
the other big reason why ceska is recommended over grupo or fenris.
That’s for a striker build
yeah, ideally you want all mods and attributes to be chd, besides the high end or coyote which can have chc
well, we are discussing striker from the start
That’s why I said I like to run 2 sokolov instead
This whole discussion is about Striker.
although ceska chest w/obliterate will work on quite a few builds.
I use one on my HF setup.
WH and CHD. It's a fun piece.
2 sokolov with obliterate chest piece 4 striker melts
SMG and AR are different tho
I mean if you want my pvp AR builds I can show you
Fenris is still viable to have in a pve build too tho
striker pve
learn to not derail the convo first before you try to be productive
It’s not that serious 😂😂😂
Giving bad advice in an advice channel should always be corrected...
you're in a serious channel, to be frank
Div is life huh
You're advising people on how to better their builds.
Like i see why you’re saying why to run fenrirs since you’re running 2p soko but you’re benefiting more from the chd bonus than the wd from the brand bonus
Misinformation is pretty important to avoid spreading in div2, as the systems in this game are really complicated, especially to newbies.
One youtuber puts out a video talking about getting 70% chc and there's a community wide groan.
It is 
Flatline shotgun with no way to pulse, claims headshots pulse but it's not a HB build...
You just won’t be able to make use of 10% chc
Technically 100% is possible, you just need to use Diamondback.
or perfect determined but who uses that
Just gotta have a teammate with hardwired/nightwatcher pulse build! 112% uptime with a 12% margin of error