#td2-build-advice

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sudden fog
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ye.

mental eagle
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How do you report problems with getting on division 2

glossy scarab
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if its the same problems as everyone else. they know about it

mental eagle
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Is it something went wrong problem

glossy scarab
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the update last night caused a bunch of problems, on playstation at least

mental eagle
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Ok thanks

silent storm
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Just got this. Should I max out DTA and use it over my Baker's Dozen?

fierce garnet
silent storm
fierce garnet
silent storm
fierce garnet
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The sway is kinda brutal

silent storm
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Sway doesn't seem any worse than my Baker's Dozen and does ok DMG

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Baker's Dozen just just a little less DMG

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But the synergy with my Pyromaniac and the speed debuff sounds nice

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Plus I have Trauma on my chest so I can do 3 status effects every 30 seconds

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I also have a nice Pristine Example with CHD and CHC

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Is the Sacrum Optic 8x? or is it 4x like other ACOGs?

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Yeah that is FAIL. The optic is only 4x so no bonus on the Pristine Example

bright raptor
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yep, and the other part is that the semi auto snipers being worse rifles is a long running design issue

fierce garnet
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Just use it a bit first and see how it fully plays before you start rolling it

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But to me its a pass

bright raptor
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they can't kill in one shot and so they can't trigger the one talent that makes the bolt actions usable at endgame

also the Sacrum's talent itself is tons of setup for little impact

silent storm
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Plus on the BD I get misses refunded lol

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And I might need that sometimes

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ok more often than not

bright raptor
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realistically you're "expected" to use the Sacrum at some point due to the expertise system, it's no good but while you're here you can just put it in your second weapon slot while splitting heads with Baker's Dozen

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still collects proficiency XP, albeit slower

silent storm
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I like to switch between my BD and Pyro though

fierce garnet
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Ya its unfortunate but the gun is a own one and then it's a component after that

silent storm
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I was just happy because it was a god roll and looked like it might make my kit better but it's a bust

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If I could put an 8x on it I would love it

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Why would they put a 4x on an MR?

fierce garnet
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When on doubt, when you get a new exotic with good roles, it's probably trash

silent storm
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It's the Nemesis all over again

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What talent would you put on this?

hexed steppe
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boomerang or flatline depending on the spec used

dull ermine
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Ranger, flatline, boomerang

fresh grove
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That too

hexed steppe
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if you run a bunch of blue cores optimist is an option as well

silent storm
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What about Rifleman? Would that be better than Boomerang?

hexed steppe
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if you maintain headshots it can be. boomerang is much more manageable

silent storm
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Lots of RNG in Boomerang while Rifleman is just be good

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I do have a lot of CHC on my set though

hexed steppe
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just to give an example of my rifle selection for different builds.

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personally i like flatline best. its always up and active with the linked laser from tech class

silent storm
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I use the TAC-50

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So I can get the scope

hexed steppe
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then boomerang is the goto

pulsar hound
silent storm
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God roll FAMAS

sage matrix
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For foundry bulwark, should I use incoming repair or repair skill mods? I never know which is best to use

silent storm
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I think I might try Boomerang first then if I don't lkike it try Rifleman

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You can recalibrate the same slot again right after you do it once?

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Yeah you can I just tested it on a junk piece, been so long since I played wasn't sure

hexed steppe
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yeah, its actually best to keep the talent able to roll. kinda future proofs the weapon if you ad expertise and then the meta talents change

silent storm
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Basically ruined all my builds from year 1

tender plover
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Hey does anyone have a good DZ build? something that can usually win face trades?

silent storm
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I think you need level 25 expertise for that now as I just get hammered in the DZ now

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As 3 is the highest expertise I have since coming back

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Then there is the cheaters that literally warp to you to one shot you after calling extraction

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It's kind of sad really that UBI hasn't figured out how to make the DZ cheat free

serene hare
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Got a Mantis with max armor damage

silent storm
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Specially considering that this was the original extraction shooter that seem to be so popular now

magic pilot
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Look up lyrical fighter on YouTube. He plays dz with no expertise

silent storm
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That matters a good bit

magic pilot
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Yea that's who he fights too lmao

silent storm
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I am not lyrical fighter lol

magic pilot
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He just recently hit 1k shd too

silent storm
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I am 430 something I haven't played in like 3 years lol

magic pilot
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Skill issue 🤷‍♂️

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I just hit 400 and I have less than 90 hours played

silent storm
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Well I played a lot before the watch was even introduced

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Should I optimize first or recalibrate first on a piece?

tender plover
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Sooo does it really matter what build i need? i know 50% CHC and about 100 CHD is great but would it be better to have like 5 armor core and 1 wpn dmg for survivability while fighting?

rich lotus
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probably recal to get the stat you want

tender plover
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or is it just grind my ass off expertise lmao

silent storm
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And is the Core Attribute cheaper to optimize than the other Attributes?

rich lotus
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i dont know about that specifically but a good rule of thumb if you arent swimming in SHD levels is make sure a piece is like 75+% "perfect" before you start using your mats cause it can get expensive

silent storm
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Is this telling me that with one Optimization it will max out at 15%?

rich lotus
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yes

silent storm
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cool so cheaper to optimize Core then Recal the skill haste

magic pilot
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Yes

silent storm
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So I should 100% go CHC on the knees then right?

hexed steppe
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CHD

silent storm
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CHD?

hexed steppe
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if youre using foxes and need chc then its a damage loss

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critical hit damage

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also good is skill damage for oxi builds and headshot damage for headhunter builds

silent storm
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Is CHD not as easy to come by here as it is in TD1?

magic pilot
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Chc isn't

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Chd you want on everything

silent storm
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Actually yeah I am rocking sub 100% CHD good call

hexed steppe
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no, its just that using that piece you lose an attribute, and if you are at a chc deficit then a ceska piece would be better

silent storm
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wait that was for the wrtong gun

hexed steppe
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whats the build

silent storm
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How do I toggle guns again?

hexed steppe
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hold g

silent storm
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ok there we go

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So CHD on Fox's?

hexed steppe
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could you post atop view of the build, like this

silent storm
magic pilot
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Not bad

silent storm
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I did CHD

hexed steppe
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you should be at a higher chd, also missing mods in mask and bag

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are you rolling headshot damage on the pieces?

silent storm
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Now my Holster and Knees are maxed

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154.3% HSD

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is that good or do I need it higher?

hexed steppe
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this is what my highend looks like stat wise

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i would pick either crit or hsd. its counter productive to run both

silent storm
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Is CHD and HDS additive or multiplicitive?

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I can't remember?

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Like compared to each other

hexed steppe
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everything is additive with itself, multiplicative to other categories. other than amps which are multiplicative to everything

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chd and hsd are additive together in a category

silent storm
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I remember someone doing a vid years ago that you want to not go too far into one stat train where he broke down how all the DMG types worked with each other

wise swallow
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would that be multiplicative but AR dmg itself be addiitive

hexed steppe
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its additive to other total weapon damage talents. multiplicative to the red cores

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if you only have 1 source of twd it acts like an amp tho

wise swallow
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hmm

hexed steppe
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something like memento would be additive the the regular red cores as well

silent storm
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Is there a gearset that is good for Rifles?

hexed steppe
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nego

bright raptor
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Negotiator's Dilemma due to the transferred critical damage

silent storm
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Sucks because I love Rifles in this game

bright raptor
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guess which weapon class has an inherent extra critical damage bonus?

silent storm
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Rifles

hexed steppe
bright raptor
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also might make it a bit easier on your mouse clicking finger

bright raptor
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click on target until you get the negotiator's mark, repeat on second, repeat on third, then click on biggest and baddest of the three - by the time they're dead the other two will be too due to the damage transfer

silent storm
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?

hexed steppe
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yup, crits into the target transfer to the marked npcs.

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crits on the npcs mark them as well

silent storm
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what is negotiators dilemma?>

silent storm
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I don't have any of those

onyx sage
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go grind

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it's so easy to farm

hexed steppe
serene hare
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Which chest talent is good for Striker?

silent storm
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Wouldn't that be better on an SMG?

hexed steppe
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when using the nego bag it ups the transfer from 60% to 100%

onyx sage
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obliterate, focus or striker chest

onyx sage
bright raptor
silent storm
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Oh I have a holster

hexed steppe
serene hare
silent storm
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garbage holster lol

onyx sage
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i ran nego scorpio back in the day as a close range dps set. it fared pretty well with HF but a bit glass

hexed steppe
onyx sage
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use a shotgun because each pellet can stack

serene hare
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I mean, I think I did quite well with my PP-19

onyx sage
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nowhere near as fast as acs

silent storm
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Here is the Striker build I have

serene hare
onyx sage
onyx sage
serene hare
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Which weapon have like fast fire rate and big mag?

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Excluding LMGs

onyx sage
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f2000, elmo are most commonly run with striker

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famas is also run with it

serene hare
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Elmo?

onyx sage
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yeah the exotic ar

silent storm
onyx sage
serene hare
silent storm
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I never have to reload though

serene hare
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I have the holster tho

onyx sage
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but bullet king is also terrible compared to a gr9 with steady handed which does the exact same thing but better

silent storm
onyx sage
serene hare
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Bullet King would be ok if it had something else going on.

silent storm
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So stable thoiugh

onyx sage
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you have to realize certain weapons in this game are powercrept by newer guns

silent storm
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And no reload

serene hare
onyx sage
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gr9 also has no reload and is stable with steady handed

silent storm
onyx sage
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you barely played the game so i'm introducing you to the stuff you may have missed

serene hare
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The problem is not really compensating for it.

silent storm
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What is GR9?

onyx sage
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a LMG

silent storm
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named?

onyx sage
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no, normal

silent storm
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how does it have no reload

onyx sage
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steady handed talent

silent storm
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SO I should ditch the Bullet King for a GR9 with Steady Hands?

onyx sage
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fyi, the pinned spreadsheet in this channel lists most things you need to know including talents on gear and weapons

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and yes

serene hare
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I wish Chatterbox was good

silent storm
serene hare
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I tried on my striker build and it felt pretty underwhelming

versed summit
bright raptor
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falls off hard at Heroic and Heroic with multiple players as it can't kill reliably and can't benefit from the talent reliably

serene hare
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My PP-19, which is not even optimized, was far better.

silent storm
bright raptor
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of course it's not going to work with Striker as the ROF side of the talent means you must be close, and on all red Striker it's a fine line between being close and being face down ass up

silent storm
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My Chattebox got me though tons of content

onyx sage
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again you haven't tried a lot of stuff

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you're in a channel where people who no lifed this game have been through everything

silent storm
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yeah

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I got like 400 hours in then left lol

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because TD1 was better I think

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Where I have a thousand hours in that

onyx sage
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this game plays completely differently

silent storm
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faster

onyx sage
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and it's more skill-based play

silent storm
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TD2 is way faster than TD1

onyx sage
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the movement is better and you can actually melee bait

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cover to cover doesn't feel scuffed

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(before this update anyway)

silent storm
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Debatable

onyx sage
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cover to cover can make you take close to no damage

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it's not that much of an effect in div1

silent storm
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Depends

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You can do the same thing in TD1 but you need to sacrifice some

onyx sage
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i run exclusively full red in div2

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because movement in this game is that good

silent storm
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Yeah they made TD2 easier

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Less sacrifice in this game for DEEPSD

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:

magic pilot
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Play legendary you won't think so lol

silent storm
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And it's way faster, which can be good

onyx sage
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legendary in div2 is a lot harder

magic pilot
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Legendary is so much harder then div 1

silent storm
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ehh

magic pilot
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1000%

silent storm
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I don't think so

onyx sage
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i mean if you don't believe go ahead and try

silent storm
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I have

onyx sage
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which ones have you soloed

magic pilot
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I played div 1 as a 12-15 year old and did better than div 2

silent storm
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why do you think I play a sniper?

onyx sage
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which ones have you soloed

silent storm
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Well you got older you ggot gud

onyx sage
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doesn't mean it's easy

magic pilot
onyx sage
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doesn't help your point either

silent storm
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All missions have a format

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you either bring gear to defeat it or you lose

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TD1 is the same as TD2

onyx sage
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except that's not the point

silent storm
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it is though

onyx sage
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the point is div2 legendary is harder even if you bring the best gear

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it's also a skill check and that's what we're discussing

silent storm
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Skill checks in this game demostrably low

onyx sage
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so please go solo DUA and come back

silent storm
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Why? It's a multiplayer game

onyx sage
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again missing the point

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because multiplayer legendary is super easy

silent storm
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Open Party, Start mission

onyx sage
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it's so you don't get carried

silent storm
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Wait, you just said that solo missions are super easy, yet you want me to prove myself by doing a solo mission>?

onyx sage
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i never said that, i said legendary in div2 is hard and legendary in multi is easy

silent storm
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oh

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yeah but I don't care about that

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it's a multiplayer game

onyx sage
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then too bad you can't prove your point

silent storm
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I don't even know what point you think I had that I can't prove

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Is it that I said TD2 was easier?

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Because that is demonstratable that it is

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Just go solo landmarks

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in heroic

serene hare
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Ok, I think I found my build with a P90 (until I get one with better stats).

onyx sage
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heroic is super easy bro

serene hare
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I'll make use of the Bee pistol.

silent storm
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yeah it is and that is my point

onyx sage
silent storm
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Legendary in TD1 is hard too though, you need a specific build to win it. Same as TD2

onyx sage
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you just need striker

silent storm
onyx sage
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many times

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i've soloed every div1 mission

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i just post vids for div2

silent storm
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Then do a recap for us of all TD1 missions

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Legendary with your Striker build

onyx sage
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no because it takes effort and i don't have to do that here

silent storm
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That's true, I imgine it would be hard to figure out how to solo all the TD1 missions on you Striker build for videos

onyx sage
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dude, just look on youtube for all the runs where they all use classy striker

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i don't have to prove to you because someone else already did

flint wave
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what's div1petter

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old news to me

silent storm
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Well if you do videos I'm sure you have one of your own right that I can go watch?

onyx sage
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i do not do div1 videos

silent storm
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So you do all your solo vids in TD2?

onyx sage
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yes

silent storm
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Send me one

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I want to see it

flint wave
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just click on his channel

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Or search up "6 red solo legendary" on yt(old outdated videos tbhtbh)

silent storm
magic pilot
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Lmao this gonna be good

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Is his YT

silent storm
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This dudes cheating. he got KB/M prompts but he is bouncing between targets like he got aim assist active

hexed steppe
onyx sage
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of course that's what you're going to say

silent storm
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Your aim assist is draggin when enemies run in front of your target

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your a cheater

onyx sage
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that's called knowing the AI

silent storm
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trying to pass yourself off as good

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no it's called botting

hexed steppe
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memorizing spawns is kindof a thing in div2

onyx sage
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yeah no i'm done with you

silent storm
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yeah I'm muting you

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cheater

magic pilot
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This guy

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Wait till you see rotorblitz

silent storm
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This dude is aimbotting to the extreme

hexed steppe
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this is quite the funny topic..

silent storm
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The more I watch this video I laugh

onyx sage
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literally no one serious has said anything about it

hexed steppe
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wants proof, gets proof, cries cheater instantly.

silent storm
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With Hacks all things are possible

magic pilot
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Does anyone know rotoblitz yt name?

onyx sage
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have you thought about getting good first and then realizing you yourself can do it

magic pilot
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I can't find it

onyx sage
magic pilot
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There we go, now I subbed lol

silent storm
versed summit
silent storm
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It's and obvious bot

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he moves too mechanically to the next target once he kills one

hexed steppe
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i doubt you would know the difference between bot and good.

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its situational awareness and deep muscle memory for the spawn locations. its actually quite easy to achieve fine tuned aim

silent storm
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I know bots

gentle lichen
silent storm
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Dude is cheating. if you don't accept that cool

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I don't care

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but he is

gentle lichen
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no proof provided

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Trust me bro

silent storm
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He provided the proof

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Watch his video

magic pilot
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We've all seen his videos lol

gentle lichen
silent storm
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yeah and you don't think him buoncing through targets mechanically is a little bit of a give away?

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He's using M/KB right?

gentle lichen
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Local man discovers target reacquisition

silent storm
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yet when an enemy tracks infront of the one he was shooting at drags his aim away you don't find that suspicious?

hexed steppe
silent storm
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Dude is cheating

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I would bet on it

gentle lichen
gentle lichen
solar sable
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so, you're saying the guy whose name is Binoculars is cheating?
He has streamed his gameplay at the community server.

silent storm
gentle lichen
silent storm
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I'm already sitting what do you think I have a standing desk?

hexed steppe
magic pilot
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It's possible

onyx sage
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go ahead and report

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let ubi be the judge

solar sable
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the one and only

silent storm
magic pilot
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I'm hoping I can cheat like binoculars one day

solar sable
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Um, guys, we are at the wrong channel, if you don't mind

silent storm
magic pilot
solar sable
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ik, I've scrolled

hexed steppe
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this is all just kinda bs trolling at this point.. im not givving any more air to the windbag 🥱

silent storm
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Yeah I blocked dude already

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so next build talk and go

magic pilot
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He's talking about you but yes

silent storm
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He was probably talking about me here but I don't care

solar sable
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I'm gonna watch his run in a bit

magic pilot
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Why is your quality so weird

silent storm
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1080p it's low def

wise swallow
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god i hate the version of discord UI

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1080p is not low def

magic pilot
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You don't have pfp pics either?

silent storm
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no

solar sable
silent storm
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what do I need pfp for?

wise swallow
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more seperation between messages. easier to read

silent storm
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pfft

wise swallow
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its not for the PFP itself just the UI layout

magic pilot
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I'm not even sure what your discord is lol

wise swallow
silent storm
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wait you guys care about pfp?

silent storm
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well mine is Pope Vader so

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Hear me now, Understand me later

wise swallow
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I dont think anyone is ever going to understand.

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Probably for the better

silent storm
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well they follow a cheater

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Probably a little bit of aimbot and a screen of ESP on top

magic pilot
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Oh absolutely

solar sable
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So if I master a run that perfectly, master my aim, etcetera, I would be considered a cheater just because I got better?

onyx sage
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me when i get called a cheater for playing too much legendary

wise swallow
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what did bro even do to get called an ESP user when bots spawn in the same spot every time

solar sable
onyx sage
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it's not even offensive at this point to be called a cheater, it's more validation tbh

silent storm
wise swallow
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cant know cheating without cheating first

wise swallow
silent storm
wise swallow
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need more detailed instructions

wise swallow
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nothing looks sketchy to me besides maybe some of the flicks. AI movement is pretty damn predictable. after playing a billion hours its not hard to track AI.

flicks in this setting is basically just aim trainers. I can make flicks stupid fast when nothing is moving mate. Hes not cheating

magic pilot
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sends a link to the easiest legendary mission

solar sable
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let me see how many mobile data I have left so I can watch the run

wise swallow
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what makes you think hes cheating

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nothing in there is even ridiculous

silent storm
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He is flicking right onto the body or head of the next target

wise swallow
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yea its called aiming.

silent storm
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yeah aimbotting

wise swallow
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so being able to flick frrom one target to another auto means cheating

magic pilot
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What if I told you that you have a higher headshot % than him? @silent storm

silent storm
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at that consistency, yes it does

wooden acorn
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Damn, y'all still on this, been over an hour

silent storm
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Pefect hits everytime

magic pilot
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You hit more headshots I think you are cheating

wise swallow
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its a cherry picked run out of hundreds? ofc his best times are when everything was done perfectly?

wooden acorn
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Only thing I see wrong about the videos is having light bloom and whatnot

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That's the real crime here

silent storm
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and also how can you see that?>

magic pilot
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I can track it

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13%

silent storm
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So my stats are out there online?

magic pilot
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Yep

silent storm
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Where?

magic pilot
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Dien is under 10%

silent storm
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He doesn't need HSD he is botting

wise swallow
magic pilot
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Isac network

wise swallow
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oh

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curious to what mine is

magic pilot
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Check for yourself

silent storm
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How do you check?

magic pilot
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It's private sorry

silent storm
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My question is what are Elite kills?

magic pilot
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Yellow enemies

silent storm
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Seems I have 0 of those

magic pilot
wise swallow
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bro has never stepped foot in the DZ

solar sable
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24h played and he's judging someone who has 5k or more

silent storm
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Nah DZ is too wild here

tawdry flare
silent storm
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Cheaters and now rank 25 expertise

tawdry flare
silent storm
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I am DZ level 49 though in under a day

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That has to count for something right?

tawdry flare
magic pilot
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PvP

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EB main

tawdry flare
# magic pilot PvP

I see I mostly play legendary and we get lot of things without heads so that also skews the results

wise swallow
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lol

wise swallow
tawdry flare
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I mean all it's doing is dividing headshot/total shots

magic pilot
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With skill hits too

tawdry flare
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It may include shots on drones and stuff

magic pilot
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Headshot/(skill hits+bodyshots)

silent storm
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Seems I'm not alone though as I am top 22% in the DZ at 24 hours played lol

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Noone like the DZ lol

tawdry flare
magic pilot
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Completely inaccurate

onyx sage
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roterblitz is 1%

magic pilot
silent storm
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Yeah the people that play the DZ love the DZ

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but you are a small minority in the game as a whole

onyx sage
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that kinda tells you how hard he grinds legendary

magic pilot
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Absolutely

onyx sage
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to have 99% be body shots or shots on skill proxies

magic pilot
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thats a lot of warhounds lol

silent storm
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Becasue noone wants to deal with gear discrepancies and then cheaters on top of it

magic pilot
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also when hes using automatic weapons he really doesnt go for headshots

onyx sage
#

he's after consistency at this point

magic pilot
#

100%

#

technically striker headshot would be the fastest build for leg when not HH

#

but no one uses it in practice

onyx sage
#

because electronics yeah

magic pilot
#

because its also impractical to hit that many headshots to be worth it

#

you would have to basically hit more headshots than the crit chance you can get on striker and then some, because you can also crit on headshots

#

70% headshot at least

silent storm
#

And you look at my stats and laugh but remember I haven't even play for a few years and I am still in the top of a bunch of categories

onyx sage
#

yeah. that also reminded me of something very underrated about focus striker

magic pilot
#

easier to hit the head?

onyx sage
#

forcing you to use 8x means you get 85% hsd

magic pilot
#

true

gentle lichen
onyx sage
#

oh yeah 105

#

it's a massive steroid for a minor crit loss

magic pilot
#

when are we getting a focus run with the named mpx?

flint wave
#

And sometimes u just can't headshot ppl

magic pilot
gentle lichen
#

I'm honestly sad focus is not as great as it was.
Not saying it's bad but the usability has definitely diminished after shield peek is gone

onyx sage
#

chungas also don't take hsd before helmet break

tawdry flare
#

Also the scope makes it easy to hit head

#

You can take a good look at head

magic pilot
#

whats the mpx named again?

onyx sage
#

safety distance

magic pilot
#

thats it

#

we need a striker focus run with safety distance

onyx sage
#

solo DUA safety distance focus striker

tawdry flare
#

Focused safety distance build

tawdry flare
magic pilot
#

it does outdps all the ARs lol

#

i mean by dien lol

silent storm
#

Bullet King

tawdry flare
#

I mean with the talent rip every ar

silent storm
#

Striker is made for Bullet King

flint wave
#

Safety distance users when they kill an enemy 0.002 seconds before the talent runs out:

magic pilot
#

striker is made for any automatic weapon above 600 rpm lol

tawdry flare
#

Afaik strained is 8-9% amp on famas but SMG are quite ahead compared to ar

flint wave
#

Fr fr ong?

silent storm
#

Never need to reload and as long as you hit someone you gain DMG

flint wave
#

Insane discoveries going on rn

magic pilot
onyx sage
#

he's on his tirade about bullet king again

flint wave
#

🤯

silent storm
#

What is safety distance?

flint wave
#

a talent that needs to refresh on kill

gentle lichen
#

Incomparable!

magic pilot
#

MPX is 752k F2k is 676k burst dps (no talent on both)

onyx sage
flint wave
#

Bullet king with mag size my beloved

magic pilot
silent storm
#

MPX is The House in TD2

magic pilot
gentle lichen
tawdry flare
magic pilot
#

called the apartment and its the worst gun in the game

silent storm
#

No it is

gentle lichen
silent storm
#

The House is an MPX

magic pilot
#

more like the cardboard box

onyx sage
#

the underbridge

magic pilot
tawdry flare
#

The MPX are now dead

flint wave
#

where's the apartment

magic pilot
#

MPX is the worst smg and its better than the top AR lmao

tawdry flare
#

Previously they were busted now they are comparatively weak

silent storm
magic pilot
#

this guy is so lost

wise swallow
flint wave
magic pilot
#

when i open my game and its in windowed mode

onyx sage
#

don't take him seriously atp

tawdry flare
silent storm
#

Pyromanic is a great AR

magic pilot
#

alright well im gonna go for a little bit, need to grind 50 levels tonight

tawdry flare
flint wave
onyx sage
silent storm
tawdry flare
flint wave
#

(Relatable)

tawdry flare
#

Top is famas/f2k for burst

#

I mean it needs +50 rof and than no one would use famas petter

flint wave
#

f2000 has accuracy issue

magic pilot
#

any of you PC sweats willing to let me steal your donation exotics?

flint wave
#

someone give him elmo

onyx sage
#

i haven't gotten it

#

i gave him

magic pilot
#

i need bloody knuckles and vile

magic pilot
#

and most of the orignal weapons lol

silent storm
#

This still does work for me

magic pilot
#

chatterbox and nemesis

flint wave
#

no dtoc. Deconstruct

wise swallow
#

blud recalled the health dmg

magic pilot
#

guesses on the role??

flint wave
#

swap speed

onyx sage
#

swap speed

wise swallow
#

stability

magic pilot
#

i got a god rolled dark winter too lol with dtooc

#

health dmg on pesti

silent storm
#

Health DMG is god roll Dark Winter?

flint wave
#

not anymore

magic pilot
#

oh wow thats my first pesti

fickle light
#

is that a troll or just someone completely and totally lost

magic pilot
flint wave
#

late edit

onyx sage
#

I'm really sorry you had to read through all that

fickle light
#

yeah i have a headache now

wise swallow
flint wave
#

now I'm lostpetter

magic pilot
#

im drunk and confused

#

i tried to be patient with you

flint wave
#

so earth is flat

magic pilot
#

high up but you fall back down

#

trapped in a concept

silent storm
#

This is my Dark Winter

magic pilot
#

rip

tawdry flare
#

RIP you only need smg /crit to be max rolled

magic pilot
#

game and discord just crashed wow

wise swallow
#

L bozo

flint wave
#

it was never meant to be

magic pilot
#

thats actually wild

magic pilot
silent storm
#

What other named guns are good?

magic pilot
wise swallow
#

shield splinter is good

magic pilot
#

eh

flint wave
#

Rock and roll once they fix the stupid magazine ammo bug

magic pilot
#

normal f2k is better

flint wave
#

lefty

magic pilot
silent storm
#

I got this one that I have been saving

wise swallow
magic pilot
#

@wise swallow you on rn?

wise swallow
#

mhm

magic pilot
wise swallow
silent storm
magic pilot
wise swallow
flint wave
#

glory daze good for chemspetter

magic pilot
#

strained f2k is more burst and fast hands is more sustained the shield splinterer

wise swallow
magic pilot
#

shooting extremely far with no sway lol

onyx sage
#

yeah 100% stability = no sway

silent storm
#

What about this one should I max it?

magic pilot
silent storm
#

What is OD?

magic pilot
#

ongoing directive

silent storm
#

ahh

magic pilot
#

its like predators mark from div 1 but worse

wise swallow
flint wave
#

only od build I like is the blue scorpio vanguard version

silent storm
#

Would this be better than Carnage?

magic pilot
#

Odder i sent you a FR

#

ew navy plaza is china light rip

#

who remembers the guy who was in here that hates china lmao

onyx sage
#

mortar build

magic pilot
silent storm
#

What about this what would this work with?

wise swallow
onyx sage
wise swallow
flint wave
magic pilot
silent storm
#

Preservation

flint wave
#

Six12 just better tbh

magic pilot
#

a good mortar build is full of unicorns not to mention ive never actually used mortar ever

flint wave
#

just get 3pc empress 1pc China 1pc wyvern

#

ez mode

gentle lichen
#

It's some shit with contractor's and PGC lmao

magic pilot
#

if im making a build i go for the most optimal

silent storm
#

And what kind of build would this fit in?

gentle lichen
urban latch
#

Alright I just got caught up and I really want to see a clip of rowdy playing.

magic pilot
#

contractors, pgc, wyvern, 2 grupo and china

#

4 unicorn build

gentle lichen
#

Not too bad

#

3/4 secured

magic pilot
#

i dont even have mortar pgc on PS and i have the blueprint lol

flint wave
#

Maybe pgc isn't necessarypetter

gentle lichen
#

That 5% is everything

#

It's the make or break

flint wave
magic pilot
#

you are shooting literally mortars at people who cares

flint wave
#

never going back to the glass cannon lifediv2relax

onyx sage
#

bro didn't play drone turret 😔

magic pilot
#

theres a reason empress chest is called bot protector

shy willow
#

Mortar build is pain to farm

flint wave
#

Is that actually skill haste skill damage pgc

magic pilot
#

could go status/skill dmg for max dmg

shy willow
#

Mine is rolled status skill damage ye

serene hare
#

I think I like this build.
I'd just wish the talents were swapped, but ok.

shy willow
#

Striker chest you won't be using very often

flint wave
#

How is that primary not a pistolpetter

#

tiniest gun known to man

shy willow
#

You need like 150 stacks to outdo obliterate

serene hare
#

My Ceska chest is very mid tho

flint wave
#

gotta farm another one then

serene hare
#

Hell no

magic pilot
#

time to farm

glossy scarab
#

so farming on pc is fine? no loot problems like PS?

versed summit
flint wave
#

back to countdown 👢 💥 petter

magic pilot
glossy scarab
#

nice

serene hare
#

I 1 2 die

magic pilot
#

only 48 levels of control points left today

shy willow
#

Yeah it seems to be just PS I haven't had any issues

serene hare
#

Ok, tomorrow I'll try to farm a better chestpiece (or delete myself).
Today I'll sleep earlier, 5:30 instead of only 4 hours (or less).

magic pilot
#

Gotta pump those up

serene hare
#

Like what, 3 hours?

magic pilot
#

Mhm

serene hare
#

Monster Hunter Mobile? Wut

onyx sage
serene hare
#

T_T

flint wave
magic pilot
magic pilot
onyx sage
#

no prob

shy willow
rich lotus
#

If you go headshot build strikers, best chest piece would be fenris right

rich lotus
shy willow
rich lotus
hazy steeple
#

It's still better than Fenris.
for brands like Fenris, Sokolov, etc, the "10% damage" only scales off before you factor in the red core.
So with a full red build, Fenris is only doing like, 2-3% extra damage, not 10%.

#

so it's actually better to have a bunch of blues there if you want to get closer to the full 10%, as Naval said.

sooo the tl;dr is that there's pretty much nothing else to add that's useful, so Provi works fine.

rich lotus
#

I see

hazy steeple
#

One of the few major exceptions to this rule is Airaldi, since headhunter basically needs super high base damage.

solar sable
#

just got a Aegis mask with max armor core, should I keep it?

misty fjord
#

Yea why not you would have to use it someday prolly for tanky build

#

Or to get the attribute for other pieces

solar sable
#

there goes one more to the collection

hazy steeple
#

Well are the other stats on it useful for a tank build?

solar sable
#

6% skill dmg

hazy steeple
#

remember: you can only change one, so no point in keeping a piece that's junk.

solar sable
#

not really I'd say

#

I have a ton of max rolled gear and idk which one's to keep as my inventory is at 120

gentle lichen
hazy steeple
#

Just look at it like that, basically.
If you can't make it flawless in 1 recal and a few optimisations, junk it.

gentle lichen
#

120 honestly pick up whatever looks like a unicorn.

hazy steeple
#

gotta be ruthless in div2, you run out of space otherwise.

rich lotus
#

Yep

#

Im always scanning what seems useless

solar sable
#

well, ig I'll make another character so I can use the stash, need a carry tho...

shy willow
#

I sorely regret deconstructing my grupo pieces that I didn't know were unicorns

rich lotus
#

Have 2 and dont even use them as storage rofl

#

CBA to have to log out and in

solar sable
rich lotus
#

My stash isn't full yet and if it gets I know some stuff there are doggo so I'm alright for now

hazy steeple
#

There's an incredibly high chance that you're carrying stuff that's basically worthless.
Try going through a section later and seeing what can and can't be made flawless.

rich lotus
#

MY ISSUE IS HAVING 2-3 of the same piece but with CHC/CHD/HSD

#

Fucking fox's I have all 3 lmao

gentle lichen
#

You should Stash clean at like 295 or something like that imo. Until then pick up what you think would be viable for a build

rich lotus
#

And ceska chest I only now found 1 where I can roll the talent

#

I had 3-4 diff ceska until now

gentle lichen
hazy steeple
#

Here's what I always say to newer players about getting loot, the order is:
Keep if good > Recal Library > Expertise donation > Junk > Sell.
Look at loot like that and you'll cut down a lot.

rich lotus
#

i can not for the life of me finish library

#

I'm only missing like 4-5 overall guns

gentle lichen
rich lotus
#

Farming for it is a no go since you dont get sht from it

gentle lichen
#

You gotta have knowledge about what you can do with the pieces tbh

hazy steeple
#

You can always get another copy, Countdown makes gaining loot soooooo much faster than it used to be.

rich lotus
#

I would def insta delete that lol

#

Ig part of it is because I dont like skill build much

hazy steeple
#

Especially right now, the current League has BT elites as one of the goals? the Hunters in Countdown count.

#

never a better time to farm it out.

rich lotus
#

Is there anyway to counter those hunters when they have status immunity besides having to disable it?

gentle lichen
#

Countdown is always a good time to farm

hazy steeple
#

Shoot them in the face.

#

the best defense is a dead enemy.

rich lotus
hazy steeple
#

You can almost solo Countdown with a good strikers build.

gentle lichen
rich lotus
#

Not when im trying to use foam build and the hunters get stats imm

hazy steeple
#

Grenades make enemies roll out of cover, and make cover-to-cover moves as well. There's a lot you can do to get them moving.

rich lotus
#

Ngl idc anymore I suffered enough in cd to the point where if my team struggles to kill the first 2 hunters I might just leave lol

rich lotus
gentle lichen
rich lotus
#

You can nade from above the fences and it will make him roll out

hazy steeple
rich lotus
#

Good habit to have

hazy steeple
#

This sounds a lot like you're playing on Heroic CD, don't bother.
Challenging scales almost as well and is a heck of a lot faster.

rich lotus
#

Yeah Im always heroic

#

Would't gears be absolutely doggo in challenging though

#

I canttype today damn

hazy steeple
#

Since countdown has 8 people on the map, the loot scales to halfway heroic on challenging.

rich lotus
solar sable
#

I just found out I had this, any suggestions?

gentle lichen
#

And heroic countdown honestly reminds me of div1 type bullet sponge

hazy steeple
#

Heroic CD is weird, since it's like "heroic+" loot, but challenging is like "challenging ++" loot.
so the tl;dr is only bother playing Heroic if it's gonna be faster than Chall'

#

you can still afford an exotic cache every 2-3 runs.

gentle lichen
shy willow
rich lotus
#

It kinda shreds

#

half the time it feels like you're the only one doing anything

gentle lichen
#

When i run countdown i only hear and see elmo

gentle lichen
#

I am the only person who runs red FI as well lmao

rich lotus
#

Does it work well in cd?

shy willow
#

Elmo users when ODpetter

shy willow
gentle lichen
rich lotus
#

I've seem some blue/yellow mixes

gentle lichen
#

If you want it to be more consistent you'd have a tank with pointman/lavosier

rich lotus
#

and full healer without technician...

#

Dude was pretty much waste resource by the end lol

gentle lichen
rich lotus
gentle lichen
#

That double crit to roll red

rich lotus
#

Yeh

#

This one

gentle lichen
#

Exactly

hazy steeple
gentle lichen
hazy steeple
#

hey I'm not complaining about them putting out the DPS.

#

I just like keeping them alive so I don't have to meta hug.

gentle lichen
#

Oh yeah the heals from red fi are quite good actually

#

That 60% bonus fill up 2 to 3 blues players

hazy steeple
#

red FI is a perfect podcast build.

rich lotus
#

It's more of a, I wish people researched builds to be efficient on that mode

#

I've seen some messes that I wish I haven't while doing cd

gentle lichen
#

The half brother of red FI is ongoing directive

#

At least more people seem to run it

rich lotus
#

Yesterday I saw 2 guys run det sniper build on heroic

shy willow
#

I almost exclusively use blue OD on countdown now

gentle lichen
#

Can you even 1 shot the veterans lol?

gentle lichen
shy willow
rich lotus
#

On heroic idk

hazy steeple
rich lotus
#

Whats blue OD?

tulip charm
#

Tank od

hazy steeple
#

Orokin Derelict, you have to use the keys to unlock the vaults though.

rich lotus
solar sable
#

What should I recal skill dmg in a Zero F's for HF build?

shy willow
#

Waltuh, why are you running 6 yellows waltuh

#

Put the turret away waltuh

rich lotus
#

Tier 6 hacked drone and turret combo slaps

#

Easiest way to wipe team 😎

gentle lichen
hazy steeple
shy willow
#

Been a long time since I watched that show

hazy steeple
#

The internet ruined it.

shy willow
#

Oof

gentle lichen
#

I AM THE ONE WHO BUFFS

hazy steeple
#

I am looking forward to whatever happens with the div movie though, and how they're going to explain the endless drones.

rich lotus
#

What if they added a healing firefly lol

shy willow
rich lotus
#

Send that fucker to a player across the map

#

Speed of light

gentle lichen
#

It was a clutch back in div1

shy willow
#

Muh defib😔

#

Broken asf skill

rich lotus
#

I was confused when you said sticky in div1 my brain lagged lol

#

Everything in div1 was broken in its own way

shy willow
#

People actually used every skill

hazy steeple
#

We played a very different div1.

rich lotus
#

Played most of div1 on xbox

#

The 1v1 hybrid builds

gentle lichen
#

Fire turret in 1v1s

rich lotus
#

Pop shotgun 1v1s lol

#

Then striker got nerfed to the ground but still op

gentle lichen
#

Urban mdr+classy predator's mark

rich lotus
#

That 0.0001s manhunt wipe

shy willow
#

Stickies and seekers were popular for tac, mobile cover was popular for wall reaches, turret was busted, smart cover was good fun, defib busted, pulse great in PvP and pve, broken asf support station and ballistic shield broken on d3

shy willow
rich lotus
#

Pulse giving crits was the shit tbh

#

Loved to use it

hazy steeple
#

better balanced in div2 though.

rich lotus
#

Meh

#

Not really balanced

#

Look at regulus lol that gun isn't balanced AT all

shy willow
#

To be fair you do need good aim

hazy steeple
#

that's 1 gun, and we're talking about skills.

rich lotus
#

Not hard to achieve on pc

gentle lichen
#

With how much gearboxes and item boxes that exist in div 2 a loot pulse could've been great

rich lotus
rich lotus
#

Rofl that shit was somthing else n div

hazy steeple
#

You actually do have a "loot pulse", it just only works for material containers, and only after you donate enough to the Control Points.

rich lotus
#

Sticky 1 shots lmao

hazy steeple
#

If you ever want a fun time, max out the solar farm donations and then go for a wander.

gentle lichen
fallen comet
#

fun fact: it also highlights friendly NPCs as well, instead if just hostiles

hazy steeple
gentle lichen
#

The targeted isn't scaled iirc

#

But the initial item itself is scaled

hazy steeple
#

It's not TL that I'm referring to, the LZ crates drop purples with high regularity.

#

what I think happened is that they need to be done individually and some were missed.

gentle lichen
#

I consistently open the caches around the descent entrance on heroic and they do drop heroic quality loot
I don't remember getting a purple from it

gentle lichen
#

Side note What was funny to me is that their fix of the cache that is next to the descent entrance is just to move it to the left lol

#

Cause players who wanted to open it accidentally went into descent instead

rich lotus
#

Flashbacks to when loot drops near ammo boxes

#

Gotta look away from the damn thing to loot it

sudden fog
#

is this a cute oreo roll

solar sable
#

||I moaned in my head by seeing that almost god rolled oreo||

solar sable
sudden fog
#

max 10

#

prob like 8 or sum

gentle lichen
cedar crescent
#

Can I upgrade exotic weapons/equipment with gear score 500 to level 40 or are these items junk?

dull ermine
#

You’ll be able to at level 40

#

You just need to reconfigure them at level 40

rich lotus
#

which is better?

#

i mean if both were maxxed out

#

idk if i should replace my knee pads for fox prayer im running striker build

hazy steeple
#

Fenris isn't as good as it seems, since the "10% ar damage" scales off before you have red cores applied.
So it's actually closer to a 2% buff.

the tl;dr for strikers is that Fox's knees are only really useful on there if you are using the strikers chest, since otherwise what you need is a ceska w/obliterate.

#

that is assuming you are using the meta setup with Coyotes mask.

rich lotus
#

What even is the build gonna be used for

#

Yeah im using coyotes mask, should I grind for the fox prayer?

#

Your average full red dps?

#

Yeah, solo targeting

#

Well fox's is always handy to have

hazy steeple
#

not on a strikers build in most cases though.

rich lotus
#

I use gruppo mask + fox's for cd 🤷

#

It has it's places

hazy steeple
#

Grupo is kinda a subpar choice compared to ceska, even if you have the chc without it.

rich lotus
#

It's a good choice for when you don't want to run coyote's because 2 people are already using it

#

Fox's + ceska/gruppo and problem solved

hazy steeple
#

If you don't need coyotes, then go ceska+fox. the dtooc is always good.

hazy steeple
#

the vast majority of the time, you just want the ceska chest w/obliterate instead.

hexed steppe
#

Ceska is basically a must on striker. If not using coyote you need to dedicate some attribute space to chc anyways... I would just use grupo at that point over foxs

wet yacht
#

which specializations is good for early world tier 1?

hexed steppe
#

Tech or gunner

magic pilot
dull ermine
#

Most likely you haven’t done the challenges yet so you haven’t unlocked tech or gunner, therefore I’d say sharpshooter (tac 50) - easiest one to get ammo for

#

Flashbang grenades also the most useful

shy willow
#

year one pass coming in clutch

sudden fog
#

aaaa

lean raft
#

I like to run two sokolov, chest/holster with 4pc striker

hazy steeple
#

Actually Fenris is subpar to Ceska, as the 10% ar damage from it only scales off pre-red cores. So with full reds it's more like 2-3%.

#

since Strikers is a gearset, it only has 1 proper attribute slot, so it even beats out Grupo.

gentle lichen
#

Add in that usually using gearsets can make you lack crits due to 1 attribute on 4 pieces so crit brands have more value

onyx sage
hazy steeple
#

And yes that applies to Elmo with its excessive crit chance.

#

more space to stack up that beautiful CHD.

lean raft
onyx sage
tulip charm
#

xd

onyx sage
#

fenris doesn't add that much value since you have that much weapon damage

lean raft
#

On a AR build? Lmfao

onyx sage
#

yes. do you know the formula

lean raft
#

😂😂😂😂

onyx sage
#

if you take the time to add up all your weapon damage, you'll see that you end up around 230% weapon damage before fenris

tulip charm
#

Well you are free to test it in-game to see for yourself

onyx sage
#

fenris makes it 240%, meanwhile your crit is low enough that getting more crit is better

#

tl;dr you have too much weapon damage so getting more isn't as good as boosting a lower stat

hazy steeple
#

The less attributes that are rolled to CHC the better, honestly.
the other big reason why ceska is recommended over grupo or fenris.

lean raft
#

That’s for a striker build

onyx sage
#

yeah, ideally you want all mods and attributes to be chd, besides the high end or coyote which can have chc

#

well, we are discussing striker from the start

lean raft
#

That’s why I said I like to run 2 sokolov instead

hazy steeple
#

This whole discussion is about Striker.
although ceska chest w/obliterate will work on quite a few builds.

#

I use one on my HF setup.

#

WH and CHD. It's a fun piece.

lean raft
#

2 sokolov with obliterate chest piece 4 striker melts

tulip charm
#

SMG and AR are different tho

lean raft
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I mean if you want my pvp AR builds I can show you

tulip charm
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And pvp is built completely different

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Wtf kinda conv is this

lean raft
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Fenris is still viable to have in a pve build too tho

onyx sage
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learn to not derail the convo first before you try to be productive

lean raft
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It’s not that serious 😂😂😂

vestal ibex
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Giving bad advice in an advice channel should always be corrected...

onyx sage
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you're in a serious channel, to be frank

lean raft
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Div is life huh

gentle lichen
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You're advising people on how to better their builds.

tulip charm
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Like i see why you’re saying why to run fenrirs since you’re running 2p soko but you’re benefiting more from the chd bonus than the wd from the brand bonus

hazy steeple
# lean raft Div is life huh

Misinformation is pretty important to avoid spreading in div2, as the systems in this game are really complicated, especially to newbies.
One youtuber puts out a video talking about getting 70% chc and there's a community wide groan.

lean raft
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70% CHC 😂😂😂 I want that build

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If only it was possible

dull ermine
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It is petter

vestal ibex
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Flatline shotgun with no way to pulse, claims headshots pulse but it's not a HB build...

dull ermine
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You just won’t be able to make use of 10% chc

hazy steeple
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Technically 100% is possible, you just need to use Diamondback.

onyx sage
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or perfect determined but who uses that

gentle lichen
magic pilot
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Ceska is almost always the best brand to use on a crit build

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For AR it's ceska>grupo>fenris>walker for 1pc bonus

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The only crit build I don't use ceska is the HE/FMJ raid setup