td2-build-advice

[acoustic coral]

headhead

[solar sable]

hunterhunter

[lyric prism]

I go and get sick and you people lose your minds.

Who broke the servers? I log in, load into the boo, turn and delta.

[acoustic coral]

Stay sick, obviously.

[lyric prism]

don't you wish well on me. Don't you dare.

[waxen grotto]

any advice

[acoustic stream]

should i farm TL backpack for a named backpack or the TL brand instead?

[acoustic coral]

Named = brand
Exotic = slot

[acoustic stream]

what?

[acoustic coral]

TL wise

[acoustic stream]

ohhh

im dumb

[tulip charm]

Well what do want it to do

[acoustic stream]

ty i figured id do brand instead

[waxen grotto]

the hell is tl

[acoustic stream]

targeted loot bro

[waxen grotto]

why tho

oh

wait mb

[acoustic stream]

lol

[waxen grotto]

u should target backpacks if u want a named back

and do countdown cuz youll get insane amount

[acoustic stream]

👍

[tulip charm]

You target brand if you’re looking for named items

[sudden fog]

How many more runs until I get oreo man

[acoustic coral]

If you want a named something from a specific brand, you target the brand.

[dull ermine]

Does anyone use adrenaline rush with hunters fury?

[acoustic stream]

u said that thank you

[acoustic coral]

Yeah, I just wanted to echo it, because realvkin then said the opposite

[acoustic stream]

Lol

[hexed steppe]

looks fairly meta for a HB setup, as long as you have crit stats and not hsd

[hexed steppe]

at least 1 more

[magic pilot]

With intimidate yes

[dull ermine]

Does it keep up intimidate? How many armor cores are you running, I’m running 2 with shield and it’s pretty much gone in like 3 seconds

I had greater longevity with memento

Granted I am using flatline spotter mp5 to see how it works but ad rush didn’t work for me 1 year ago … I guess I’m not using it right

160 Chd 59 chd

[magic pilot]

I run 3 with ad rush

[magic pilot]

Mp5 is just that bad

[magic pilot]

Focus is kinda dead now that shield peeking is fixed

[dull atlas]

oh poop, i was following a guide

[shy willow]

Try replacing your mask with coyotes or grupo, your chest with ceska obliterate, and your holster with striker

[dull atlas]

i do have coyotes, is ceska a named item?

[strong cave]

Brand set

I forget the bonuses you get from it

[shy willow]

And make sure everything is rolled to crit chance until 50-60 percent then dump everything into crit damage

[shy willow]

10 percent crit chance

[strong cave]

Ah

With my chameleon build I benefit more from fenris coyotes mask and the crit attr I have on my gear already boost my damage so I use crit chance mods and hit headshots for the 90% boosts

[dull atlas]

okay ill farm for that, thank you!

[strong cave]

Sitting at 56% CHC and about 154% CHD

Without buffs

[magic pilot]

It's ok, meta shifted recently

Is this for legendary?

[dull atlas]

this build, i was able to do solo challenging stuff

[magic pilot]

What is your goal with this build?

More of what I trying to ask

[dull atlas]

i wanna comfortably farm heroic and do the endgame stuff, never gotten there before

[magic pilot]

Shoot for this setup

[acoustic coral]

Oh come on, give him an HH build smh

[halcyon nebula]

what ar is that?

[magic pilot]

He should have a striker build first

St Elmo @halcyon nebula

[halcyon nebula]

thx

[magic pilot]

Np

[acoustic coral]

Nooo, we need to break the meta.
We should advice heartbreaker or something, corrupt people

Actually, eclipse protocol

[strong cave]

Nah, have him run backfire 🤠

[dull atlas]

i DO have backfire lol

[strong cave]

Have fun cutting corners getting haz pro lol

[onyx sage]

i think i can give my verdict now that i've had my fair experience playing at this point.

there is still a way to peek without return fire, but you can't use a shield with it and you have to use third person view. so due to this i really think focus is going to take a massive hit

[strong cave]

I have a backfire idea in my mind I wanna try and make, gotta come up with a theory first

[onyx sage]

we should trick people into playing HHF

[strong cave]

Ridgeways pride/backfire is the focus

[dull atlas]

i dont think i understand haha

[acoustic coral]

That's one of the few builds that only really comes alive at 1K SHD

[strong cave]

My idea is run ridgeways pride and use backfire. If I bleed, they bleed. It's only an idea right now, as I'm still brainstorming

[dull ermine]

Try hunters fury with banshee smg, memento or heartbreaker

[strong cave]

Very off meta ofc but I like me a weird build

[acoustic coral]

I don't personally enjoy HHF enough to do that
I can tell you, I should not play HHF late at night or with cold hands = I get mad cuz me no hit

Me no hit with HHF = me sad

[dull ermine]

Stream it ? 👁️

[shy willow]

headhunter

[ancient dune]

headhunter

[acoustic coral]

Nah, legit. At primetime when I'm relaxed and hands are warm (Denmark had been cold last few days), HHF Regulus is fun.
Outside of that? It's just pain

[acoustic coral]

headhunter

[rich lotus]

Are there any unique weapons with unique multiplicative damage boosts?

*exotic weapons

[ancient dune]

vindicator i guess?

[rich lotus]

I didnt actually check the numbers but seat of the pants makes it feel like its additive

a boomerang m1a cqb outdps it on a 180CHD with 24 weapon handling high end with perfect focus and that makes me sad

i wanted it to be good

[onyx sage]

it's amp but like it has this weird de-amp when you shoot limbs (legs and arms) that it makes the amp towards highlighted part kinda mild

[rich lotus]

@onyx sage ahhh

[onyx sage]

you only do 85% damage towards limbs

[ancient dune]

also it's like adding a second headshot point really, the marked spot is only good when it highlights head

[onyx sage]

i stream HHF gameplay

[rich lotus]

My Determined Model 700 is broken ATM so I tried going back to my HHF build and holy shit has determined made me lazy. All red HHF is a pretty high skill ceiling IMO

and my hat is off to those that just breeze through shit with it 🙂

[onyx sage]

HHF is the reason why i don't play determined

if i play too much determined i can't hit heads

[ancient dune]

the 40% amp from vindicator is not much more (if at all) than a rifle's native 80% hsd even diminished by crit so you only get cracked damage when the mark is also on the head otherwise it's essentially another headshot spot. To add to that, the MDR is more of a spammy rifle than a precise rifle like the classic m1a so you're not consistently hitting the marked spots either

[rich lotus]

I dont know if its just me, but its hard getting into that little rhythm of the slight like .25/.5 pause I need to do before I shoot my 870 at moderate shotgun range or else nothing hits

Reckoon so basically its poopy all round

[onyx sage]

yeah it's not that great

[dull atlas]

is this a good roll? just change out hazard protection for something else of course

@shy willow

[ancient dune]

it probably needed to be like an MMR that did guaranteed headshot damage to marked spots plus an amp to be good

bonus if the marked spot counts as headshot or something for talent sets

not the first time they fucked up an exotic though

[magic pilot]

I saw the video on how to peek lol

[onyx sage]

pls release regulus 2

[magic pilot]

Eclipse would actually be good

[rich lotus]

quick question before i have to IRL stuff, does marked zone on achilles give amplied damage for the full duration or just 1 shot?

[ancient dune]

1 shot

[magic pilot]

I've been doing the third person peek for a long time

[onyx sage]

so marked zones have their own health, if you don't deplete that health you can do more than one shot

yeah that peek is very common in pvp

[magic pilot]

Your gun has to go close to your chest and you won't get hit

[magic pilot]

Was just gonna say lol

I'm pretty sure panda taught me that

[onyx sage]

i figured i would post it because some people were asking

[magic pilot]

Nah i definitely would too

[onyx sage]

what i said above, but also realistically because you want to do the most damage with it you're just going to deplete the zone health anyway in 1 shot

[dull ermine]

lol I can somehow manage to use concussion but maintaining rifleman or headshots with Mmrs is the death of me

[acoustic coral]

Electric boogaloo
But also give akimbo pistol+smg

[onyx sage]

they only want to do that when they release pistol gear set

if they do

[magic pilot]

Rifleman isn't on mmrs

[dull ermine]

Yes, that it isn’t

[magic pilot]

I'm lost

[dull ermine]

I know it isn’t on mmrs

[magic pilot]

Got that part

[onyx sage]

maintaining (1) rifleman and (2) headshots with mmrs, i think

[dull ermine]

I was just commenting on Rudolph’s mention of playstyle with HHF

[onyx sage]

as in "headshots with mmrs" and "rifleman" are separate

[dull ermine]

Basically I can maintain headshots with high rpm weapons is all I was saying

But not ones I need to stack / low rpm

[onyx sage]

so you can track continuous fire but you can't tap fire

[dull ermine]

No lol I can’t keep up with the dancing npcs 😂

[onyx sage]

try melee baiting them then headshotting. works wonders

[hexed steppe]

maintaining headshots by occasionally sweeping a head

[dull ermine]

As soon as I pull out an MMR they wanna start running / ducking in cover 🤣

[hexed steppe]

sounds about right

ive been kinda forcing regulus use for most content the last couple weeks. actually starting to improve , i think i hit more distance shots than i do right on top of the npc though.

[onyx sage]

yeah trust me, i was really bad with it when i started out. had to push myself to use it

[hexed steppe]

thats why i been just selecting it. some mission ill swap to dps, but for the most part ill just use it. helps that my setup has a stupid strong shield so it grants me some forgivness for not hitting every shot

[dull ermine]

On a good note I just completed my recalibration library 😭

After 3 years 🤣

[dull ermine]

During the polarity switch I mostly used the lady death it was awesome bc of the reload

Oh come on don’t tell me I have to go find some shit talent for every gun… I don’t think I’ve even seen it… thunder strike?

[hexed steppe]

yeah polarity was kinda doodoo for a pistol/bulwark setup. if i wasnt close enough to melee i had to keep reloading . was better with my nego build. i didnt do a lot of polarity tho, just enough to get the track done

[dull ermine]

I called for backup and this guy kept meleeing 🥲… that made the tombs so much worse

[magic pilot]

Ahhh

[dull ermine]

As of yesterday I had my library maxed out on talents 👁️

Stupid patch 😭

[pine monolith]

Where do you get named blueprints from? Been trying to farm a walker harris mask from countdown with core att armor and crit attributes but after nearly 3 days I'm just absolutely fed up and wondering if I can have the same results crafting one?

[hexed steppe]

there isnt a named walker harris mask.

[pine monolith]

I meant the blueprint for that specific item in the walker harris category.

[hexed steppe]

im not in game to check if there is one. but when farming it you wont get an armor core, youll have to recalibrate the piece. so really just need to farm one with 2 crit attributes

[pine monolith]

Is Inaya the only vendor that sells blueprints?

[hexed steppe]

yes

[pine monolith]

Also didn't know it can't drop with armor, thanks. Still new to build crafting on this game, kinda confusing to me although I'm sure it's simple and I'm just a slow learner lol.

[hexed steppe]

all good. i just logged to check and there is a wh blueprint. it doesnt give me any indication what it was a reward for. if its still able to be unlocked its probably from running level 3+ controlpoints

yeah basically when looking for a piece just keep in mind that you can only recalibrate 1 attribute/core

[pine monolith]

Yea all it says is random reward from control points lvl3+, countdown, projects, or can be bought.

[hexed steppe]

is there another piece in your build that can take the armor core instead. if so you would only need to worry about 1 attribute and recal the othe

[pine monolith]

So you can only recalibrate one slot but are you able to optimize all 3? Like if both crit spots are not maxed can you max them or do you need to get lucky on the drop with that as well?

[hexed steppe]

you can optimize them, but it will be limited by the library and will not optimize fully unless you have a maxed out roll saved

[pine monolith]

I could probably sub the armor core on something else since I'm only using 1. Going with a Hunter's Fury Lady Death build so mostly focused on damage with some survivability.

[hexed steppe]

also if you optimize an attribute/core that you recal onto the piece, it effectively locks the stats in place and will not be able to change it

hunters fury?

scratch that im stupid and cant read

[pine monolith]

All good lol

[hexed steppe]

have you had a memento bag drop. exotic

it pairs really well with hf

[pine monolith]

Nah I'm using Ninja so I can get the 2 piece bonuses for Sokolov and Walker.

[hexed steppe]

it also has a ton of survivability built in
3% regen
30%-60% weapon damage
30% skill efficiency (% in every skill attribute type)
bonus armor on trophy pickup, which hunters fury leaves you close to the kill

[shy willow]

Memento >>>>> ninja

[pine monolith]

Was going off a build a found on YT by Adamz damage abd survivability seemed good. Was shredding enemies on heroic and taking shots like they tickled.

[hexed steppe]

pair it with an unbreakable chest for a ton of survivability. or use an oblit chest for i big damage boost

[pine monolith]

Was gonna go with Oblit. Memento seemed good but I think that's more of like a solo build wouldn't it be? Difficult to keep those trophy stacks if your group is killing too.

[hexed steppe]

memento will be way stronger. the set bonuses ninja unlocks get outshined by memento

[hazy steeple]

It's worth noting that a lot of div2 youtube builds are misrepresentative or outright lying about how good they are.
A lot of "shreds heroic" setups are actually not even being played on Heroic.

or the more common reality: there's a team supporting the person.

[hexed steppe]

i use memento a lot in groups. its never hard to get maxed charge. once it is you only have to pick up a trophy every 5 minutes to keep the long buff active

[pine monolith]

Sooo swap ninja for memento and what chest do you recommend?

[hexed steppe]

also if using shield. memento is 2 skill tiers pluss the 30% efficiengy means 30% skill health, which is pretty much shield health

[hexed steppe]

ceska or grupo obliterate chest. you want your chc to be close to the hardcap of 60%

thats what determines which you should faarm. ceska is if needing chc

you can also use tech class for another free skill tier, and possibly an artificer hive that repairs the shield passibly every 10 seconds

but gunner also good for the armor on kill

[pine monolith]

I have a good ceska and an obliterate talent stored in library so. How do I wanna spread my cores? Like 4 red 2 blue?

[hexed steppe]

yeah that would probably be a good start. if still feeling squishey add another blue* core

[flint wave]

or the more common reality: Lincoln memorial or federal emergency bunker solo

[pine monolith]

Gotcha. Thanks for the advice.

[flint wave]

mayhe rven the start of legendary dua if ur lucky

[hexed steppe]

i been using something like this for the shield deal. memento makes a 10mil shield a 12mil shield when stacked. its not hf but it is kindof a close quarters build since pistol

crusader shield will be less armor, but same concept

[flint wave]

Division players always want survivability but they don't want to run blue cores

[hexed steppe]

yuk, blue cores 🤮

[pine monolith]

I always see a lot of endgame builds running just nothing but high-end gear, are the gear sets outshined by some of these combinations or something?

[flint wave]

no the gearsets are the best

[hexed steppe]

i dont need armor when i got tier 4 shield 😆 that repairs 50is percent every 10 seconds

not always. i would have more damage as a hf in the above setup, but this way allows me to be 6red core, 4 yellow core, 1 blue

for skill builds high end is always better than gear.
eclipse being the outlier since eclipse is amazing as well

[flint wave]

Yea skill builds are the exception

[hexed steppe]

for dps it: striker > nego > high end

[flint wave]

The ones that do damage kind

[hexed steppe]

hotshot top sniper setup

[flint wave]

dedicated tank builds too if you hate your team

[magic pilot]

Countdown

[magic pilot]

Nego is better with 3 marks though

[flint wave]

👴

[hexed steppe]

ik, nego my baby 😍 , but its more situational compared to striker

[magic pilot]

Very true

[hexed steppe]

one other thing, not sure if anyone mentioned so forgive if im repeating , but there is a pinned spreadsheet in this channel. the Hub (builds) tab has a bunch of up to date, tested builds. most include variations in the detailed breakdown

but on that note time to catch some zzzz😴 tc

[solar sable]

Got a Designated Hitter with max DTA, should I recal it to DTOC or stay looking for a Determined SR-1?

[rich lotus]

Wish they allowed us to make groups of builds instead of just plane build save from 1 to whatever the max is

Then you could go into a group for example PVP and save a few in there, or go to the second group for example PVE Healer

Lazying out having to change a few pieces everywhere everytime because no save slots lol

[shy willow]

Pretty neat idea actually

Build folders

[rich lotus]

I'm more shocked that it isn't already a thing when you notice how many gears and different variations can be done

Specially for specialization, I seem to always have to swap to a whole diff build to get a specialization I want and then swap all pieces over and mods

[shy willow]

That's another thing I wish specialization point investment was tied to loadouts

[rich lotus]

YES

[shy willow]

So I don't have to respec

[rich lotus]

I HATE THAT SO MUCH

Ubisoft

[shy willow]

Oh and while I'm at it make transmogs part of the apparel menu so it doesn't disappear when I change loadout

[rich lotus]

I feel like they should put it behind some effort like "you can save specd points only after you finish all specializations" or something like that

But right off the bat would be ncie too

[rich lotus]

There should be a way to lock transmog/colors tied whenever you swap loadouts too

[shy willow]

Ye that's the thing

[rich lotus]

So many QOL things that should've been added but I understand, they're more busy with adding more bugs each update

I mean fixing bugs

[shy willow]

I'll settle for resolve for now

[acoustic coral]

Seems to be a database limitation - a lot of things are.
Stash is DB limit.
Loadouts
Descent not having a save point

[rich lotus]

How dare they invest into making the game better for players

Animals

Give me my monthly shop skins

[acoustic coral]

Depending on what kind of DB limitation we're talking about, it could aswell not be about money :))

[rich lotus]

Yeah I'd imagine so

[hazy steeple]

Okay enough armchair dev'ing, this is build advice after all.

[rich lotus]

Tips on optimizing this pvp shotgun build

[acoustic coral]

Ah, yes, this is where you draw the line in build advice

[rich lotus]

There fixed the chat

[shy willow]

Tips for this man's countdown build

[rich lotus]

WHAT IS THAT

[shy willow]

[rich lotus]

I can see it being "somewhat" effective in certain areas but I'd rather have 1 more dps clearing things 🥹

No wonder sometimes countdown tasks fails on time

That or 6 people running coyote's

[shy willow]

The bigger issue is hunters

[rich lotus]

I mean he does have tech, as long as he goes to the hunters giving them kisses goodnight it shouldn't be an issue rofl

But yeah end strat is doomed to fail

[shy willow]

Oh and somebody tell this man to get a 4 piece oml SHD 800 too

[shy willow]

If the hunters hack his turret it's over for the team

[rich lotus]

Then he just joined them ez

You can't lose if you switch teams

[acoustic coral]

He's preparing for a sacrifice to lootcifer

[rich lotus]

I've seen some questionable 1k+ players too

[shy willow]

"i present to thee, 7 hog roast SHD agents"

[rich lotus]

This is prob one of the reasons I don't enjoy countdown as much as I do on summit

Already enough rng on loot I don't like rng on players too

[acoustic coral]

I don't know about you, but I think programming from an armchair is too comfortable. I prefer an old office chair with a broken pump and 3 monitors, but all of different resolutions - gotta stay on edge to catch dem bugs

[rich lotus]

The 3 res monitor hit home

[shy willow]

You're doing your part

[tight isle]

What’s the best attribute for the st Elmo’s ? DTOC critical hit mag ?

[rich lotus]

DTOC

[stray maple]

so they updated the new gear set on pvp

and its basically useless at pvp even more

[hazy steeple]

As a general rule, "dtooc" (damage to target out of cover) is going to be what you want as your 3rd attribute on Exotic Weapons.

[tight isle]

Still trying to reroll I’m like 15 in still no luck

[hazy steeple]

It's super not worth wasting Exotic Components on reconfiguring farmable Exotics like that, unless you have nothing else to spend your components on.
I'd just farm out a new copy, and in the meantime you're going to get a bunch of extra bits to use for the future.

[tight isle]

How rare is it I’m like 30 in nothing lmao

[rich lotus]

Depends

I was around that number too on my EB

Think I spent like 40 or so

[tight isle]

Just gonna keep trying lmao

Guest I’ll farm till I get it

Got it

[rich lotus]

Was the rolls even good?

I wanted to rip my skull off after rerolling that many times and got a terrible rolled gauge lol

[tight isle]

I just god rolled it

Spent like 50 tactical assessments

[rich lotus]

Yup

[rich lotus]

Not thaat bad

[patent fossil]

I think it didn't work in pvp anyway, they just updated the description to make this clearer

[tight isle]

Wish I had the EB tho that gun is crazy

I got the ouro just missing raid guns tbh

[rich lotus]

EB is very situational

And only worth if your dps is extremely high to get kills consistently

Regulus on the other hand that gun is something else lol

[tight isle]

Yeah I’m only 395 shd I’ll get them sometime

[acoustic coral]

It never worked in PvP - now it's just clearly described.

[rich lotus]

Strikers 4pc with each diff top gear picks (assuming your weapon is rolled DTOC)

Ik damage numbers are wrong but calc still right I think

[acoustic coral]

[rich lotus]

Contractor's Ceska to squeeze that minmax in

I didnt understand why ceska was good

But having more mods/stats rolled into CHD is op

[acoustic coral]

Sorry, I laughed at it being Eagleburger but I realise what you mean now

[rich lotus]

Yeah wanted to test an AR but didn't really care about swapping diff weapon

[acoustic coral]

I'd recommend getting a sheets rolling to calculate DPS with striker stacks and talents (iKia has a good template)

[rich lotus]

Oo nice

Imma do that

[acoustic coral]

It takes a bit to get rolling, but it's nice once you learn how it works

[rich lotus]

Is it pinned somewhere

[acoustic coral]

His drive is linked under his Twitch, best I can recommend

[rich lotus]

And is his twitch also called iKia?

Ah nvm found it

[gusty ravine]

Is creeping death good ?

[vestal ibex]

For the CC EP build mostly.

[ebon elm]

hi, i Know that this isn't the correct chat but how i active this skill?

if it's a skill

[rich lotus]

Which skill?

If you mean specialization then it works just like a weapon

[ebon elm]

the fist

[lyric prism]

on keyboard hit 4

[vestal ibex]

That's your spec weapon, it's a 40mm GL.

[hazy steeple]

In the future, if you have a question that requires an image, #ask-td2-community also has image permissions and would be a better choice.

[ebon elm]

But why does it load orange and other times it is discharged?

[ebon elm]

sorry

[brisk barn]

Specialization weapons require charges to gain ammo

it's because they are more "powerful" weapons so you don't always have ammo for them

once you get enough kills, the next enemy to die when your orange bar is full will drop the ammo

[ebon elm]

thanks dude

[acoustic coral]

Oh, she was merely stating it, nothing to he sorry about friend!

[rich lotus]

Anyone know how I can get memento been doing count down target backpack and exotic cashe open right away once got point for it

[rich lotus]

That's prob by far the best way to get it

Just gotta get that rng luck

Okay cheers new to game but done about 30 count down trying to get it as people say it must for most builds

[rich lotus]

Def not a must it's great for rush/ad kill high dps builds for survivability or extra damage

But yeah just keep on doing that, division late game is pretty much that in a nutshell

Yeah doing a shotgun build so can do level 3 control point fast to get my optimize patterns

[acoustic coral]

Heroic 5 Directives Lincoln if TL matches > Heroic CP4 5D if TL matches > Summit F10 somewhere in here > Countdown
For specific exotics.

Rates aren't applied in Countdown as far as we know.

[rich lotus]

Where u find that ?

[acoustic coral]

Here you go

Normal exotic drop rate and TL exotic are two different rolls.
Normal drop rate for exotics are 1/3rd in Countdown vs LZ - I wouldn't be surprised if the same applies for Targeted Loot.
Otherwise, on average, you should get an exotic from your chosen TL every 3-4 runs

[hexed steppe]

I been having pretty good drop rates in summit lately. Got memento, coyote within 15floors, needed them for a 3rd alt. unfortunately the exo cache I got from completing the floors was ID holster

That was not farming f10, btw.
Just running up on heroic 3d, 1 boss floor.
F10 will probably be more and one of the few places to farm the bighorn

I still feel like summit is the best for getting what you're actually targetting
With countdown being the best for component farming

[acoustic coral]

My summit exotic rate is abysmal, whether it's heroic or legendary with 5+ Directives, but it definitely holds up if you compare to the non-TL exotic drop rate

So I would imagine it scales similarly with TL-exotics

[valid shadow]

Any good pve fire build?

I have playes division 1 and im new to Division 2

[tawdry flare]

Eclipse protocol check the pinned spreadsheet

[modern heron]

Whats a good gear set for explosive damage?

[tulip charm]

Ig the closes would be hw seeker spam

explosive build better in high end gear imo

[modern heron]

Do u know of a setup thats u would recommend?

[tulip charm]

Well what skill

[modern heron]

The morter and seeker

[patent elm]

Can you even still farm summit f10? Last time i Tried, the boss stopped dropping after a while

[shy willow]

2 grupo one China light and 3 empress

[modern heron]

Sweet thx

[magic roost]

Anyone have any good solo dz builds? I’m returning after a hiatus. Currently running heartbreaker set w/ coyote mask, kingbreaker and acs-12

[hexed steppe]

Kill boss, lobby while npcs are still alive. Ascend. Repeat.

[hexed steppe]

Not exactly mortar seeker. But btsu+ stinger hive is really strong on the build.
Can kill the mortar cooldown instantly with oc.

Hits very hard, easy to proc combined arms right before mortar lands

[modern heron]

Sweet thx ill give it go later just need to farm for the exotics

[hexed steppe]

Capacitor is just doing summit challenges. 5 I think.
Btsu available anywhere glove target loot

If you dont have sacrifice chest use a wyvern piece

[gusty ravine]

Looking for something that doesn't require stacks but hits hard against hunters and uses the Scorpio shottie

[onyx sage]

any dps build can use scorpio, you can use high end or negotiator, but against hunters none of them are as strong as striker

[gusty ravine]

Trying to find a good striker setup lol

Looking at the spreadsheet but idk which one is good for me

[onyx sage]

just use the striker guide in there lol

get that done first before you move on

[gusty ravine]

Anyone know what chest piece is that

Ik the prim is St elmos but I don't have that so I'm using lady killer will that ruin me or?

[acoustic coral]

Ceska obliterate (the Evernote mentions this)

[onyx sage]

you can craft a police m4 or famas and just use that

[gusty ravine]

Oo I don't have one of them

[gusty ravine]

I got like 30 of them but none of them are good 🤣

[onyx sage]

doesn't have to be good

just use until you find a better one

striker just carries anyway

[gusty ravine]

How do I recall talents

Reroll*

[onyx sage]

tinkering

[gusty ravine]

Or do I have to keep crafting until I get the 1 I want 🤣

[solar sable]

you need recal blueprints

[onyx sage]

they're talking about high end not exotic

[solar sable]

there are high end recon bps

[onyx sage]

no?

those are crafting

[gusty ravine]

Says I can't recalibrate it? Even though I just crafted it

[onyx sage]

does it say why

[gusty ravine]

I mean I have the resources I'm a loot goblin

[acoustic coral]

Getting a good one may take a little, but just get the chest, reroll talent to obliterate - feel the power of that, then focus on getting the correct rolls for stats

[onyx sage]

you need to have the talent you want already in the library btw

[gusty ravine]

Just says This slot can't be recalibrated

[onyx sage]

what gun is it

[gusty ravine]

The police m4 replica

[onyx sage]

and did you optimize it

[gusty ravine]

No I just legit just crafted one

[onyx sage]

do you have any AR talents in the library yet

[gusty ravine]

I don't think so rofl

[onyx sage]

there you go lmao

[gusty ravine]

How I check

[onyx sage]

there's another tab called the library

that's where you extract talents and stats to use for recalibration

[gusty ravine]

Hold up I think I got a perfect optimistic just need to find it

Is perfect flatline good

Got like 20 of them on my guns I just keep in my stash 🤣

Same with a perfect sledgehammer rofl

[acoustic coral]

Perfect is named items only and cannot be extracted nor changed

[gusty ravine]

Oh then it must not be perfect i assumed it was cause it has a gold background

[acoustic coral]

The talent will literally be called "Perfect x"

[magic roost]

Anyone got a good solo dz build?

[gusty ravine]

Best place to farm for it

[tulip charm]

Countdown!

[acoustic coral]

Countdown, summit or if there's Ceska targeted loot at one of the quick to clear Control Points

[gusty ravine]

CD hates me I tried getting the St elmos but it never dropped it for me

[acoustic coral]

That's because Exotic drop rate in Countdown is bad compared to what you could do.

For something like a Ceska chest though (which is just a brand piece, not a named) Countdown excels

[gusty ravine]

Okay I got like 10 different chest pieces

@tulip charm Does it matter what the chest piece talent is?

[acoustic coral]

Obliterate

[gusty ravine]

Ffs

38 x 104

Sorry ignore

[vestal ibex]

mafs

[acoustic coral]

2 + 2 is 4, -1 that's 3, quick mafs

[tulip charm]

I mean if you get a chest pieces with crit chance and crit damage then talent doesnt really matter as you can just reroll talent to obliterate

[gusty ravine]

Hold up I'll send a photo

Watcha think @tulip charm

[acoustic coral]

The talent is the important one

[acoustic coral]

@gusty ravine

[gusty ravine]

Ik but is that chest good cause it has both dmg and chance and I haven't rolled

[acoustic coral]

I can see you have recalibrated a stat

[gusty ravine]

Ye that's recalibrate

[acoustic coral]

Second

[gusty ravine]

Can I still reroll the talent?

If I can't imma cry

[acoustic coral]

#ask-td2-community message

[dull ermine]

What do you guys think of a red Aegis build ?

I’ve been finding pieces with crit damage and have been debating it 🥲👁️

[acoustic coral]

Isn't aegis the new gearset?

[dull ermine]

Perhaps

[flint wave]

I think I'm gonna hurl

[dull ermine]

😂

[acoustic coral]

Yeeeeaaah, just don't.
How is red cores and crit gonna fix a set that isn't strong enough for tanking?

[dull ermine]

They will be dead 😂

Idk im just tryna find a use for it

[flint wave]

do skill tier aegis using decoy and shield

it probably has a niche

[dull ermine]

I can’t say it would simply cause it doesn’t force enemies to target you

[magic pilot]

new pvp smg meta

[flint wave]

Aegis Shares its damage resistance with the decoy and the decoy powers the damage resistance with chest

tldr: tanky decoy

[magic pilot]

Such a pain to farm for but it blows the old meta out of the water

[dull ermine]

Yes but what use is that to a team 😂

[flint wave]

the enemies aren't shooting the team they are shooting the immortal decoy

[magic pilot]

Why not just run a healer with a decoy and over charge

[flint wave]

and if they shoot you as long as you have shield up you are also tanky

[flint wave]

cuz overcharge has a cooldown

of 120s

[magic pilot]

Energize, Acosta, btsu

Future perfect

[flint wave]

No no and too long

[dull ermine]

Thompson is onto something here 👁️

[flint wave]

And no

[flint wave]

I didn't create the idea

[dull ermine]

Just to be clear how much sarcasm are you using 🫶

[magic pilot]

I'd rather have a healer than someone using that shit

[dull ermine]

Before I take you seriously lol

[flint wave]

Same

However unlike red aegis this build probably has a small niche

[dull ermine]

I figured red aegis might have some use against hunters / rogue agents

[magic pilot]

We did Roosevelt last night, had 2 of the dps running decoy and I would OC and clear the intial enemies with no one being shot

[dull ermine]

And legendary not getting spammed by mortars

[flint wave]

just run a pfe build with a side of blue cores and done

for the hunters

[magic pilot]

Or

[flint wave]

Everything else you can just run 3 pfe mods lolol9

[magic pilot]

Run normal striker and have a healer lol

[dull ermine]

I don’t have a pfe build besides a haz pro regen tank

[flint wave]

no worries then

Just use 3 pfe mods on ur average cookie cutter striker

especially if you're using elmo or an smg

[dull ermine]

What currently is the issue with aegis anyways?

I’m not too familiar with it

It seems to have some synergy with the mosquito pistol but it only lasts 5 seconds… it needs an exotic piece like shocker punch that transfers the targetting of enemies to a group

[flint wave]

foundry bulwark and high end exists

so why use aegis as a selfish tank set(which it was designed for)

[dull ermine]

I mean does the talent work essentially or is it just a gimmick (for the tank… does the damage resistance actually offer any benefit to make them immune in a sense)

Like how foundry can basically be immune if running unbreakable with liberty pistol

[flint wave]

The talent seemingly has a stacking cap

so no u can't be immortal if you somehow have the entire squad in legendary targeting you

it's a simple talent otherwise

[dull ermine]

I see, but that’s why I thought it would kind of be good for let’s say the hunter during the Schaffer mission assuming you’re solo, will it (red aegis prevent him from 1 shotting you)

But that wouldn’t work because it requires a group to work better

[flint wave]

he's the only enemy in that enemh so hell no lmfao

also you are NOT gonna kill that hunter before he uses all 4 armor kits unless below heroic

[dull ermine]

That bro spams fire chems and armor kits 😭

[patent elm]

Are the extra 20% smg dmg really worth the effort?

What if we just run sokolov foxes and grupo

[flint wave]

30%*

[magic pilot]

According to the math that Raucey, Panda and myself have been doing. Electrique is the strongest option

Same for lengmo in PvP

Notably lengmo is significantly easier to farm for

[flint wave]

actually pvp exclusive math or can I do this with an average high end in pve

[patent elm]

Why is that, nvm we want the blue cores

[rich lotus]

@magic pilot 3 Piece Lengmo, Contractor/Foxes and Coyote is the best high end LMG setup??

i need to farm some stuff since my happy place weapons are all broken

[patent elm]

Probably pvp since you want blue cores in pvp, no reason to do that in pve really

[rich lotus]

finding lengmo chests and backpacks gonna be rough

[magic pilot]

It's technically the best high end option in pve for lmg

But you'd have to red core it

[magic pilot]

3 lengmo, coyotes, contractors picaros

[magic pilot]

For pvp its easy since they have a blue core

[rich lotus]

sorry i should have specified for PVE 🙂

[magic pilot]

This is my pve version until I get the chest

Pve you want contractors fox yes

Coyotes mask

[rich lotus]

actually kind of thinking lengmo//contractor/coyote and pristine example would be pretty sick for legendaries, granted i have to find another steady handed gr9 since mine is broken

[magic pilot]

That would work as well

I personally wouldn't go coyotes with focus, since the range will vary a lot

[magic pilot]

This has 170% lmg dmg before expertise

[rich lotus]

Oddly enough I only use Coyote in focus builds so i can dump CC from my gear

[patent elm]

What is that backpack?

Is it the named one with unstoppable force?

[glossy scarab]

backbone or whatever? most likely

[magic pilot]

Yes

[rich lotus]

obviously much easier to get than a unicorn, but if you could replace it with another talent would you?

[magic pilot]

Probably not, it has higher max dmg than vigi

[patent elm]

You need the kills though right

[magic pilot]

Yes

Pve strictly I would use it

PvP Raucey thought 3 lengmo, tardi, ceska bp and contractors/picaros would be good

Bp with wicked and use iron lung as Main. Emp jammer to help with wicked proc

[gentle lichen]

Iron lung on tardi is great

[patent elm]

What has tardigrade to do with iron lung

[wise swallow]

Its good on a build that uses tardi since it fits with the same role as tardigrade

tardi provides utility to team and so does iron lung

iron also requires some level of tankiness. tardi is typically used in a tankier set up

[woeful tendon]

For an ouroboros build in the DZ: would 4 strikers blue cores, 1 coyotes, and one ceska be worse or equal to 4 strikers, picaros, and sokolov?

With coyotes, I manage exactly 60 chc and 163 chd plus the bonus. On the picaros I get 60 chc and 132 chd.

Both builds are 4 blue 2 red. (But picaros makes it 4/3)

[magic pilot]

Run ceska/coyotes

Close buff is too strong to give up and ceska puts you at 60% (unoptimized) and offers the highest dps

[solar sable]

it's such a headache to find an Xbox group looking for oreo farm

[vestal ibex]

Hit up naval so you can do gate strat.

[acoustic coral]

😳🥹😵‍💫

[magic pilot]

Lmao

Oxy gate strat

[vestal ibex]

Bro that's is 200 IQ...

[magic pilot]

Ikr

[vestal ibex]

1 dps 3 oxy, DPS goes and transfers drone and all the oxy guys just spam the handrail...

[magic roost]

Is emperors guard still dz and named cache exclusive?

[shy willow]

[shy willow]

You still need an Oreo?

I have my key still if youre looking for takers by the time I get back home

[solar sable]

Ye, I'll text you when I get on, okay?

[tawdry flare]

Run 6 pcs 5.11 all red

Or 5pcs 5.11 with ninjabike bagpack the ultimate meta shaking meme build

[solar sable]

idk about ninjabag

[acoustic coral]

Might make 5.11 too powerful

NBB would make it 6.12

[magic pilot]

5.11 is honestly one of the most overpriced brands out there

The gear looks cool but im glad Ubisoft contract with them is up

[rich cosmos]

Tbf it’ll be back for whatever the next tactical shooter they release, they work with them a bunch

[magic pilot]

Maybe, it's been a long time

[gentle lichen]

It has the shittiest look in div how's the irl counterpart?

[magic pilot]

About the same just less bulky

If you played breakpoint that's basically what they sell

[rich lotus]

Is it worth investing in striker HS builds with the EB or is CHC/CHD better?

[ancient dune]

crit is better

[gentle lichen]

Depends on how good you are

[hazy steeple]

A better way of putting it is "it depends on your playstyle".

Although I can't say for sure that EB is the better choice no matter what build, it's not exactly the greatest gun.

[acoustic coral]

I don't see any world where EB gets better with HSD over CHC/CHD on a striker build.

[rich lotus]

Good for huge team fights

[gentle lichen]

I'm assuming pvp

[stiff jasper]

If you have good headshot hit rate, of course HS
HS or CHD depends on build, also depends on you are bodyshot player or not

[harsh shore]

I want to be better in Conflict, any tips?

[stiff jasper]

Tips is don't use trash build, I know what concept you want to run but it doesn't work well

But I assume you won't change build right?

[harsh shore]

I would 🙂 thats why i'm here 😄

[stiff jasper]

Your build trash like 10/100, then it is able to being 12/100, and if you just running normal pvp meta build, it 90/100

[acoustic coral]

Even with a high HS rate, wouldn't say 60% CHD, something 150-170% CHD be more beneficial so more Headshots are critical headshots?

[snow mural]

what kind of build

[harsh shore]

doesn't matter, I like skills tough

[stiff jasper]

If you really want same shit, you can change fernis to grupo, the 20 expo damage benefit your bfb and seeker, 15chd benefit your guns

Use chc on mod and grupo, in conflict you have 49chc

No chd on attributes, use skill damage on attributes

Roll those blue core to 1 red 1 yellow

Then your able going to 12/100

If you don't have grupo, walker as well, walker 5dta benefit guns and your expo skill

[snow mural]

If not, you can't answer a simple question

[stiff jasper]

His concept like boost rpm of capacitor, then get skill damage increase to benefit sticky, but in fact it won't work well

[stiff jasper]

HS slightly better because you only need 1 attributes but crit need 2,
So HS build have more space to build more damage,or some chc, or more functional like hazard

For example, HS can feel free to use all "3 best gear" and don't need ceska, but crit can't since you will lacking of attributes to build chc

Also, If you only looking at number of hs and chd, hs are still higher because guns base hs are higher than crit around 20

[pastel shard]

for the one shot build is there any reason the build in the sheet uses technician specialisation?

[magic pilot]

Which one is it?

[vestal ibex]

This the one in question right?

You'd use tech because the extra skill tier is nice to make the door thiccer.

[tawdry flare]

You can also use sharpshooter

[acoustic coral]

I was talking about his mentioned build specifically (Striker with EB)

[stiff jasper]

Still HS better if his aim good

[tawdry flare]

Be roter blitz ezy

[acoustic coral]

With higher crit you stil utilise the native HSD on the weapon for crit headshots.
I'll put it into the math calculator later

[pastel shard]

oop i forgot to be specific i meant the nego oneshot

[tawdry flare]

Ahh the ravenous build for raid

[rich lotus]

Extreme hs player I rarely aim at the body even on npcs lol too many years playing siege/cs

[rich lotus]

I think crit does very slightly more damage than headshot focused
and then add the fact that you still do lots of damage on the body too unlike HS only

But I'm not sure you need to confirm on the calc

[gentle lichen]

100% headshot chance vs 60% crit chance so it will solely depend if they can headshot or not

[vestal ibex]

Might be to give extra achilleas marks but in groups I'd suggest demo as you'll be able to take 1 mortar. No spec is gonna really "help" too much but demos negate explosion perk is nice.

[gentle lichen]

Also a popular thing HSD players do is use orbit and proc it on defender drone or decoy

[pastel shard]

ah ok ty

[acoustic coral]

Yeah, but I'm specifically talking about Critical Headshots, which does more damage than a Crit / Headshot because of the combined calculation.

[rich lotus]

But wasn't crits + hsd not a good combination?

[gentle lichen]

Chd and hsd are additive so it really wouldn't be that much of a boost

[rich lotus]

Best to just invest in one or the other no?

[rich lotus]

Pretty much you'd have to full commit to either

[vestal ibex]

I think you aren't probably going to hit headshots as much as you think regardless.

[ancient dune]

I suspect if one actually had a 100% headshot rate a HSD focused build would do more damage, but realistically I would really like to meet the person that can hit 100% headshots

[gentle lichen]

When crit build going for headshot is good. When headshot going for crit it is not good

[ancient dune]

The question then becomes at what headshot rate does the crit build do more damage than the headshot build?

[rich lotus]

The only time I might miss some is when someone is extremely skilled at strafing

Not that many people are in dz so far that I noticed

[vestal ibex]

Dat chicken dance tho.

[gentle lichen]

I think we derailed from pvp to pve or? Because headshot is for upclose so hitting head not as hard

[ancient dune]

And the last time I bounced that through a calculator the answer was that you needed close to 80% headshots

[blissful rampart]

you full focus on 1 or the other. reason being when going for Crit build you have no room for HSD stat because Crit needs both chc and chd.

when going for HSD build you only have 1 free stat space so cannot go BOTH chc and chd.

[tawdry flare]

RoterBlitz

[rich lotus]

Exactly

[flint wave]

rip if you encounter helmets and robots

[rich lotus]

Specially at close range, it's impossible to miss hs

[rich lotus]

pvp

[vestal ibex]

This is about PVP HSD builds.

[flint wave]

bighorn it is then🙏

[rich lotus]

Sad reality right there

[tawdry flare]

6 pcs 5.11 works everywhere

[flint wave]

agree

[rich lotus]

In the end bighorn does more than eb by miles

[ancient dune]

Unironically if it's stacked it kinda does

[flint wave]

balanced because it's bighorn

[rich lotus]

I was thinking of EB for sort of a solo vs server manhunt situation where I could keep chaining kills with memento included

[gentle lichen]

I find bighorn to work best on regen/hazpro

[blissful rampart]

iirc even with zero stacks, Bighorn out dps EB.

[rich lotus]

It does but it also does wonders on strikers

[rich lotus]

🥹

[stiff jasper]

Bighorn does lot more damage than eb, but meanwhile eb are able to dominate when 1vN but bighorn can't

[rich lotus]

Guess it makes sense because if they buff eb even a little bit we'd see people wiping servers left and right being immortal once they chain 2 kills on it

[blissful rampart]

Bighorn is a very high DPS AR, with big Cons (bad mods, trash recoil and low mag size)

[rich lotus]

Thats p the situation yep

[rich lotus]

Honestly I grew used to the recoil

It's not as terrible after a while

[stiff jasper]

Eb strong by its functional

[gentle lichen]

Recoil not too bad especially when 15< meters away

[urban latch]

What's your uplay name, and what do you think your accounts hsd% is?

[flint wave]

TIL eagle bearers talent in Pvp is more powerful then the pve version

[blissful rampart]

still is because has that trash random horizontal recoil QQ

[gentle lichen]

Pulling up the %s is wild

[rich lotus]

Honestly no clue and it's IHezu

[flint wave]

Headhunter

[ancient dune]

Bro is pulling up the logs 💀 💀

[tawdry flare]

You gonna check division site

[gentle lichen]

There's a tracker that shows that type of info

Your body and head %

[rich lotus]

Meh idc I doubt it will be that high since a lot of times I play slacking farming gears with no sound or watching shows lol

[rich lotus]

Ooo which

[gentle lichen]

Unsure if it's allowed to advertise here so i'll dm

[rich lotus]

alr

I thought it was an in game stats thing

Would be cool to see

[gentle lichen]

That is a really good %

[urban latch]

16% isn't bad, the best players will end up around 20%, which is high. Much above that and you get into assumed cheating territory.

[rich lotus]

I'm assuming this counts for all the weapons too?

[gentle lichen]

Pve too i think

[urban latch]

Compared to how you can get 60% with chc, that's the reason crit is generally considered better, outside specific headshot builds

[rich lotus]

Oof then rip, I use shotguns a lot specially on npcs to stack

[urban latch]

That's your hs% of your accounts history

[gentle lichen]

Ahh that might mess it up

[rich lotus]

I pretty much live rent free with strikers and a shotgun for stacks

Is there a way to specify no shotguns/smg?

[urban latch]

No, but that hs% is roughly accurate in the ballpark

[stiff jasper]

Imagine I only got 8%😂

[rich lotus]

I'm surprised I even have 3k skill kills since I barely every use damage skill

Made a skill build not too long ago and it's already in the stash

[tulip charm]

What about me!

[flint wave]

How did this happen

[gentle lichen]

You could also make the case that high rpm weapon are usually used for crit and low rpm like sniper or regulus are for headshot

That'd skew the %

[rich lotus]

Oreo 🥹

Getting plastered to a wall in 0,002s by a strikers oreo

While their aiming at my feet

[magic pilot]

I can check

[rich lotus]

If there was a way to check the % on specific weapon types that would be so cool though

[magic roost]

I’m so lost

[magic pilot]

About?

My Pc account I have 16% headshot rate

[rich lotus]

Can you also check td1 stats on there?

[magic pilot]

On one of them yes

[magic roost]

Maybe I just don’t know enough about the brands and and their bonuses. And the spreadsheet makes my head spin. I’m trying to put together a solo dz build that is going to do damage and keep me alive while also being viable for pve

Someone had mentioned a strikers build to me but idk where to even start with it

[rich lotus]

What lvl are you currently?

[magic roost]

40 and 40 on my watch

I’m guessing strikers chest is non negotiable

[versed summit]

it's quite negotiable

[magic roost]

I guess what I really don’t understand is to pair with my 4 pieces of striker and what type weapons to use

[versed summit]

typically 4 piece of striker's (including the backpack), a ceska obliterate chest, and coyotes mask. A Grupo mask works fine if yopu don't ahve coyote's yet. Crit chance till you get to 50-60% then all crit damage. ARs work best

[rich lotus]

And don't forget the glorious AA12

[magic roost]

And this will work in dz ?

[rich lotus]

Yes

[magic roost]

Acs 12?

I have coyotes.

[rich lotus]

The only difference between pvp to pve is that you'll need more blue cores

With strikers for example you'd want 4-5 blue cores

[magic roost]

Awesome thanks guys

Or ladies

[rich lotus]

If you need more help just ask away here, people r always available to help

[magic roost]

Can do. I have to go grind some striker pieces now

[rich lotus]

Here is an "example" of what I mentioned although I'm still building it and it is sort of a goof around build for now

[magic roost]

I like the idea of having momento in my build. I just know it can be iffy without having the stacks

[rich lotus]

That's the thing

[gentle lichen]

In pvp you'd rather have short term than long term

[rich lotus]

Yep

That's why its a goof around build for now

Players vs server, if I can't kill them fast enough to get EB proc and memento stacks = dead

[magic roost]

Any good exotic ar’s or smg’s that synergize well with the build?

[rich lotus]

Most ARs with good talent/stats (Including exotics), Dark winter, Ouroboros, Lefty/Rock n' Roll

There's prob a lot more tbh strikers is by far one of the builds where you just mount it and toy with it with different guns

[rich lotus]

Talents such as strained, measured, optimist

[tulip charm]

oh ty

[magic roost]

Ok awesome thanks a lot for real

[magic pilot]

What's your Ubisoft?

[versed summit]

Still don't get why people are recommending Measured... if you're not playing below 5m Ranger will do more...

[rich lotus]

I like measured a lot more than the other ones I mentioned purely because of the initial fire rate

Followed by the big numbers at the end which goes well on striker no stacks sort of

[vestal ibex]

Isn't measured just less damage than all the other options tho?

[versed summit]

or you could just take an actual damage talent and do more damage... Big damage numbers don't mean a lot when you'd still be doing more damage with another talent.

[rich lotus]

Yes

[gentle lichen]

If you add up the loss and gain of damage and rpm it is ~1% boost

[rich lotus]

It's a personal preference, if I want damage I'll just use shield splinterer lol

[gentle lichen]

Placebo basically

[rich lotus]

Tbh now that I mentioned it i've been only using shield for the last month I haven't touched my famas with measured

[rich lotus]

Which I do unless I'm solo and feel like measured+famas

[vestal ibex]

I'm still using strained famas...

[magic pilot]

Measured is only good in a build with no WD

Which is a build that still sucks even in PvP

Pre-picaros it was ok at best in PvP

[versed summit]

shouldn't it be even worse on low AWD builds because the AWD is weighed more heavily? or do you literally mean no AWD

[flint wave]

lol yeah measured prefers to have the build already possess a bunch of weapon damage

optimist is the one that gets better with less weapon damage

[magic pilot]

If you have 0 WD there's no negative to measured

You get a ROF buff and a dmg buff for the other halve

If I wasn't using bighorn I would use measured

Measured would only lose 12% wd on the first half

[versed summit]

dang

[flint wave]

you can't have 0 wd tho

[onyx sage]

based

[magic pilot]

You can

Lowest is 15% from spec

Which is 7 in pvp I think?

[flint wave]

10% from watch 15% from the guns weapon damage roll and then spec yea

impossible even in conflict

[magic pilot]

Not worth it then lol

Measured just sucks

Especially with expertise

[magic roost]

So obliterate drops on ceska chest right?

[versed summit]

eventually

[magic pilot]

Any non named chest

No talents are locked to any specific brand

[magic roost]

So it would be more beneficial to target chest over ceska?

[rich lotus]

Opposite

[hexed steppe]

Brand for named or regular pieces. Type for exotics

[magic roost]

Continue targeting ceska

[magic pilot]

Junk chest lol

[vestal ibex]

Target chest-get like a billion brands, target ceska 1 out of 6 chance.

[magic roost]

Roger that

[magic pilot]

Talent not changeable

[rich lotus]

Why would I want to change it

[hexed steppe]

💯
Time to decon

[rich lotus]

😔

[hexed steppe]

[rich lotus]

Nooo no more farming

[magic pilot]

I had no guns get affected by the bug lol

All my talents are changeable

[rich lotus]

Neither

If the bug happened to gears too on the other hand...

And the community would crucify the devs even harder

[versed summit]

imagine getting your hapsburg unicorns changed lmao

[rich lotus]

...

I'd commit

[flint wave]

back to pentco you go 👢 💥

[magic pilot]

Ceska/grupo chest and bp with changeable talent is one of the first things i recommend people to farm for after getting a decent build

[rich lotus]

So you can rotate talent to one you will need the most in certain situations?

[magic pilot]

RNG been on my side lately

[versed summit]

or for whatever build you want to use with it.

[flint wave]

me with multiple ceska chests

[rich lotus]

ME LOL

[magic pilot]

Me with one ceska chest

[rich lotus]

The more the better

Collecting all the different variations of it

[versed summit]

yeah i just have a bunch I can change talents on tbh

[rich lotus]

Stash full of ceska chest

[flint wave]

hope you get the blue ceska chest so you can make the HEALTH tank

[magic roost]

That’s what I got going on atm

[rich lotus]

If youre doing countdown use something else with no blue core

[magic pilot]

Get ceska gloves or that chest piece I just sent

[flint wave]

blue core is never the problem

[rich lotus]

It is when the rest of the other team mates are all running blue yellow cores and the hunters never die

[magic roost]

I got a pair sitting in my inventory

[magic pilot]

Blue cores?

[flint wave]

yeah bad teammates

theres nothing we can do

[rich lotus]

Good point

[flint wave]

except extract by ourselves

[rich lotus]

Ez

[onyx sage]

i can carry legendary and still get fast clears but not heroic cd

hunters too tanky

[magic pilot]

Finally got my iron lung with chc

[flint wave]

roosevelt dua and capitol just too ez

[onyx sage]

when carry zoo

[flint wave]

when I solo it first

[rich lotus]

Yup

[magic pilot]

Iron lung only needed 2 optimizations

[flint wave]

jk I already carried a zoo match before in terms of stats

[magic pilot]

I need to do 3 more Roosevelt

[sudden fog]

what’s best build for roosevelt’s!!!!

[rich lotus]

Hotshot makes most content an easy walk on the park

[magic pilot]

3 striker and healer or foam

[onyx sage]

i only snipe in specific stages

[rich lotus]

Bruh whaaaat

With sniper I zoom through content like its nothing

[flint wave]

business as usual until you get to the end just have the support use emp sticky

[onyx sage]

not if you keep getting killstolen

[rich lotus]

As long as you have 3 others to soak up the aggro for me 😄

[rich lotus]

Be fast enough

[onyx sage]

which will happen if you run with actually good teammates ironically

[rich lotus]

At that point I'll afk and let them do the work ez

[flint wave]

mfw dps teammates prioritize the red rushers from across the map

[onyx sage]

it's either striker or hhf

[rich lotus]

This boils my blood

[onyx sage]

hhf i can actually guarantee the kills because i'm right up their face

[sudden fog]

what’s hhf

[onyx sage]

headhunter's fury

[sudden fog]

something hunters fury

[onyx sage]

hunter's fury with headhunter

[sudden fog]

ohhhh

[onyx sage]

it's really strong but you gotta know what you're doing

[hazy steeple]

apparently that extra h in there was just too darn expensive.

[flint wave]

head hunter hunter fury

[rich lotus]

hhh

[onyx sage]

h

[rich lotus]

hhhf

[hazy steeple]

hunter head hotshot friends.

[flint wave]

headhunter hunter fury = hhf because headhunter is one word

[magic pilot]

Well HFHH is something else...

[rich lotus]

hehuhufu

She got it lol

Thats enough for me for today

[onyx sage]

but yeah i only snipe in stages that are actually faster than using striker for me

[rich lotus]

Actually before I go

Forgot to mention

[onyx sage]

because as it turns out, sniping is slower than striker

[rich lotus]

Soloq only which means never good team mates

[magic pilot]

True

[flint wave]

high end headhunter

[rich lotus]

It's always people that never cleared the game before

[flint wave]

HEH

[onyx sage]

brug

[rich lotus]

I disagree

[hazy steeple]

HEadHunter.

[rich lotus]

🧐

[onyx sage]

you haven't run with speedrunners

[rich lotus]

True

Prob never will, forever soloq

[onyx sage]

so my point stands

[rich lotus]

Not in my view, ez

[hazy steeple]

Is that a persistent typo or are you saying something other than "solo" ?

[onyx sage]

solo q = solo queue

[rich lotus]

Solo queue

[magic pilot]

Solo queue

[hazy steeple]

oh god not more

[rich lotus]

More?

[magic pilot]

Solo queue?

[flint wave]

English

[rich lotus]

This is VERY known lol

[magic pilot]

She hates abbreviations

[flint wave]

I love english

[onyx sage]

but anyways snipers can only shoot so fast

[rich lotus]

MORE

[onyx sage]

regulus actually beats sniping

just because of rpm

[flint wave]

D50 beats regulus
on reanimated

[vestal ibex]

I bet you could use other pistols during reanimated with the 3x damage.

Faster/less recoil ones.

[hazy steeple]

You could use the ak in reanimated and steamroll Legendary.

[rich lotus]

Which is the hardest hitting gun for strikers?

As your primary

[vestal ibex]

Depends?

[rich lotus]

Or ttk ig

[hazy steeple]

Ouro is the peak, but it requires you to sell your soul.

[rich lotus]

Which soul

[hazy steeple]

i mean hsd technically does more, but....

[vestal ibex]

Ouro on ttk yeah

[rich lotus]

Ok then ouro it is

[onyx sage]

six12

[hazy steeple]

along with ouro, take the AR of your choice for range.
ouro alone is fine for building stacks.

[vestal ibex]

This isn't really a lie or troll either.

[onyx sage]

i'm speaking the truth

[flint wave]

Acs is the peak but it requires you to have no range

[rich lotus]

I don't even know what that is

[onyx sage]

shotgun lol

[rich lotus]

Is it the shotgun?

Oooh

[onyx sage]

i consistently clear faster with six12 than ouro

[rich lotus]

It does more damage than ouro even?

[hazy steeple]

8 metres range though.

[vestal ibex]

Problem is you miss like two pellets and you are doing less

[onyx sage]

yeah only limitation is range

[magic pilot]

Pyromaniac, swap chain, kingbreaker, mop, railsplitter, Caesar's guard, pointman. No matador today so far

[hazy steeple]

technically it has 14m but 8 is the "actual" range for pellets.

[rich lotus]

With optimist talent DTOC?

Now I need to get one myself

[vestal ibex]

Fast hands I'd guess

[onyx sage]

yeah fast hands

[rich lotus]

Oh god I'm gonna lose it, I had to get back into my stash 3x because npcs kept passing by and pushing me away from it

[onyx sage]

use the stash outside lol

[rich lotus]

Will this do?

[onyx sage]

under the helipad

[rich lotus]

Idk why I even have it

[vestal ibex]

Inside stash is a mosh pit

[onyx sage]

rip

[rich lotus]

Do you also know in which category each weapon does more? ouro smg, six for shotgun

AR would be shield I assume?

Disregarding range or hs/bs%

[onyx sage]

i think f2000 is best yeah (if we ignore chameleon lol)

[rich lotus]

I always forget cham is an ar ngl

[hazy steeple]

The lack of mod slots does have me questioning how "good" the f2000 actually is.

[flint wave]

The most versatile weapon is elmo

[rich lotus]

I hate elmo

[flint wave]

Sadge

[rich lotus]

Will never use it despite having a full maxed one

[onyx sage]

but i don't use f2000 personally, too inaccurate for me

[hazy steeple]

It also colours horribly, rendering it worthless.

[rich lotus]

Is cham better than the f2000 then?

[flint wave]

back in my day shield splinterer had a bit of gold plating on it

[onyx sage]

it's still either famas or elmo for AR for me

[rich lotus]

I see

[hazy steeple]

You can still use that skin on it, ak.

Actually it gets put on it by default.

[flint wave]

Chameleon is only top damage because it's an smg disguised as an ar

[rich lotus]

personal preference or highest dmg?

[onyx sage]

i wouldn't consider chameleon in the same scenarios as the other ARs

[onyx sage]

personal preference, since i can't always be close for f2000 to hit every shot

both famas and elmo are lasers for me

[rich lotus]

Hmmm

[rich lotus]

I mean I did mention that disregarding range or hits accuracy

[flint wave]

despairge

[rich lotus]

I'd have to reroll mine oof

[onyx sage]

well i did answer that previously

cham or f2000

but realistically i use famas or elmo

[rich lotus]

I see

Oh I forgot to mention, on an all red build shield splint loses a lot of value right

[onyx sage]

yes but it's still top tier

[rich lotus]

f2000 + strained?

[onyx sage]

that's also top tier

[vestal ibex]

Or fast hands

[rich lotus]

Fast hands is reload right

[onyx sage]

yes which improves sustained dps

[hazy steeple]

perfect Optimist on shield splinterer is basically the only way to get it to out damage strained, unless I'm forgetting something.
and even then it's only a few %.

[onyx sage]

ss needs headshots to outdps strained

[vestal ibex]

Yeah but if you kill in less than a mag but can't 1 mag 2 enemies fast hands can improve your overall effectiveness.

[hazy steeple]

Ain't nothing wrong with using a QoL talent over a straight up damage one.

[flint wave]

introducing preservation

⠀

[vestal ibex]

Just don't get shot tho

[sudden fog]

how long does it take to get regulus

[magic pilot]

I expertised my normal f2k before sheild splinterer

Soley because I can run fast hands or strained

[hazy steeple]

Also Cassie just wouldn't spawn I'm guessing lol.

[magic pilot]

Famas is still stronger on gearsets technically

[vestal ibex]

Typically 3 weekly raid resets.

[magic pilot]

Due to slightly higher crit

[hazy steeple]

well Famas has actual mod slots.

[acoustic coral]

@rich lotus Had a glance at the EB Striker question you had earlier.
Bear in mind, this is mathed around No Expertise and all red cores + the DTH rarely comes into play, but it's part of the equation.

Build 1: EB Striker CHC/CHD focus, Ceska Chest with Obliterate + Mid-Coyote buff active
Build 2: Striker HSD/CHD focus, Ceska Chest with Obliterate and Fox's knees for dttoc (needed a replacement for coyote, since you aren't focusing crit)

Picture 1: Damage formula from iKia to math the avgshot damage - note it assumes 100% Headshot Rate
Picture 2: The comparison