td2-build-advice

[gentle lichen]

Ticks aren't going to be worth

[magic pilot]

I run the IKia version in the spreedsheet

[wheat anchor]

What spreadsheet

[pastel shard]

look into the bluescreen apparently thats good for it

[gentle lichen]

Got that aswell but i already have a double crit rolled to armor so no reason to have it

[wheat anchor]

I figured that would be good

Id also assume pestilence but eh

[pastel shard]

pest doesnt work iirc

i tried it n it wasnt working

[magic pilot]

I crafted mine

[wheat anchor]

Pest is broken you're saying?

[magic pilot]

No it's not a status

[wheat anchor]

Damn

[magic pilot]

It's a debuff

[wheat anchor]

Fair enough

Same situation as pulse

[magic pilot]

Basically

[wheat anchor]

Pulse as a status would be fucked though

Considering we have spotter and flatline

[magic pilot]

Wait till you find out about linked laser lol

[wheat anchor]

Im aware

[magic pilot]

Ok good

[wheat anchor]

Never would use kingbreaker tho

Sure its got perfect flatline but its slow

[bright egret]

new and improved

[wheat anchor]

What are the yellow and blue attris

[vestal ibex]

Gotta recal those yellows off tho

[wheat anchor]

Just unfortunate side effects?

[magic pilot]

@gentle lichen omg I got sadist and eyeless in an alternating order

So every kill one of them is active

[bright egret]

wait how would i get rid of them

[hazy steeple]

Countdown runs, no need for side effects when at most an hour of playtime can give you 80% of the way towards a perfect build.

[wheat anchor]

Recalibrating them off

[vestal ibex]

Remember the library you should be filling up?

[bright egret]

ya

[wheat anchor]

Should be fine for the kneepads

[gentle lichen]

Get ignited as well

[wheat anchor]

Backpack is a lost cause for now

[vestal ibex]

You then can take those stats stored and recalibrate those dead stats.

[magic pilot]

I def will

Idk if I'll get trauma now

[wheat anchor]

Elmos at shd 32 jesus

Did you go straight to countdown or something?

[bright egret]

yes i did

[magic pilot]

I got Ouro at shd 12 on pc

[wheat anchor]

I've still never bothered with countdown

[magic pilot]

@vestal ibex lol

[wheat anchor]

And Im shd 325 lmao

[flint wave]

I saw shd 9 with elmo and memento

countdown is very cool gamemode

[bright egret]

is memento the backpack

[pastel shard]

rate the build 😂

[bright egret]

the exotic one

[wheat anchor]

Yep

[wheat anchor]

What the fuck

[bright egret]

i dismantled that

[wheat anchor]

Its fine you'll get it back fairly quickly

[pastel shard]

its great right

[vestal ibex]

I mean Raucey and I got a SHD level 1 an ouro.

[wheat anchor]

Your only source of damage is the busy little bee, madman

[bright egret]

so i just extract the health thing

[glossy scarab]

yeah bloodsucker isnt gonna work for that build

[magic pilot]

That's awesome

[wheat anchor]

Shd 1 an ouro wth

[vestal ibex]

NO! Do not be in library to recalibrate.

[magic pilot]

Saywers

[wheat anchor]

Oh right I forgot about that

[bright egret]

thank you

[wheat anchor]

Sawyers and demolitionist is wild considering they both have a perk which prevents staggering

[pastel shard]

i was thinkin of swappin from that ot the mosquito 💀

[wheat anchor]

Oh you mean the literally useless exotic

[magic pilot]

What is the point of the gloves

[pastel shard]

does it not work

[magic pilot]

You aren't getting any kills

[glossy scarab]

the "look at me! look at me!" pistol

[wheat anchor]

It is only good with aegis, thats it

[vestal ibex]

Library is the tab you'd be in to sacrifice items with good rolls so your library has these things stored.

[pastel shard]

yes 😂

[wheat anchor]

Hipfire ig

Whod have thought there would be a worse pair of gloves than the bloody knuckles

[pastel shard]

I was thinkin I might change 4 of the things for foundries

[wheat anchor]

Full fucking tank

[magic pilot]

Not the exotic gloves

He's using the new brand which is armor on kill

[wheat anchor]

Oh right LOL

[pastel shard]

my thought process was everyone n there nan kept dying when i did leg tidal so why not be invincible 😂

[wheat anchor]

Best form of invincibility is a bunch of 511 tanks

[pastel shard]

I was killing stuff

[hazy steeple]

Wait, bloody knuckles bad?

[wheat anchor]

Who the fuck is meleeing

[hazy steeple]

rugged gauntlets I can understand.

[flint wave]

More like stalling the match

[wheat anchor]

Unless you're using lady death why bother

[flint wave]

delaying the inevitable

[hazy steeple]

read the rest of the talent, try and work out why they might be amazing in certain situations.

[pastel shard]

idk if thats a joke cause 511 doesnt seem to be great

[hazy steeple]

While in cooldown, striking an enemy with a melee attack or hitting an enemy with the effect of a grenade will complete the cooldown instantly."```

[hazy steeple]

It is a joke, 5.11 sucks big time.

[magic pilot]

BK is super good lol

[wheat anchor]

oh, effect of a grenade

[pastel shard]

ah

[magic pilot]

You can also melee 99% of bosses

[wheat anchor]

Makes more sense now

[vestal ibex]

Sledge and BK proc is yummy

[magic pilot]

Or sledgehammer them

[flint wave]

"bk is good" - cursed sentences

[hazy steeple]

People on here are kinda, how do I put this.
terrible at conveying sarcasm through text.

[acoustic coral]

burger king is pretty good 😠

[vestal ibex]

lol double meaning

[flint wave]

what would we ever do without

[wheat anchor]

5.11 is too broken, needs a nerf

[magic pilot]

BK gloves are good

[hazy steeple]

I honestly think half of you would be banned right now if it wasn't for that one emote that looks like the guy from RLM.

[flint wave]

fml acronyms

[vestal ibex]

Fast food is ew, I want it slow like me.

[magic pilot]

BK GLOVES!

[flint wave]

🛌

[hazy steeple]

I think that's just Risotto.

[vestal ibex]

Not smooth enough.

[pastel shard]

what is the cap for prot from elites?

[acoustic coral]

Alright James May

[glossy scarab]

80% ?

[hazy steeple]

you're making Risotto wrong.
80% for pfe.

[magic pilot]

Risotto is at least 45 min to make

[pastel shard]

interesting

[acoustic coral]

I have no idea what you mean (outside of missing my access to 1000's of nitro emotes to properly convery meaning 😢 )

[flint wave]

ong

[tulip charm]

Riven am I one of them?

[flint wave]

where's my embed and nitro emoji access at

[hazy steeple]

Wait who are you again?

[vestal ibex]

I'm talking about my brain here.

[tulip charm]

😦

[hazy steeple]

Oh cmon, that timing was too perfect to miss.

[magic pilot]

Anyone who talks in here more than 3 times a week woulda gotten banned at some point lol

[hazy steeple]

I mean just ask @wise swallow

[flint wave]

rip me

[pastel shard]

are there any named gear pieces that give prot from elite?

[tulip charm]

No

[magic pilot]

Only the mods and survivalist

[hazy steeple]

Stacking pfe is a weird thing, I like to throw Chill Out on and overuse the double mod slots.

[magic pilot]

Rivens gives -20% PFE though

[acoustic coral]

Yeah, have you seen the stuff Rivens type

[hazy steeple]

It's true, I'm a real gosh darn menace.

[flint wave]

ok

[pastel shard]

ye i was jus thinkin cuz i have 4 12% pfe rn n thought about possibly makign some improvised gear n adding some more

[glossy scarab]

you get another 10% by running survivalist

[tulip charm]

wheres the 13% pfe flex at

[flint wave]

not yet

[hazy steeple]

I decon'd one once, just to prove that I could.

[flint wave]

But I have something better

20% incoming repairs

[magic pilot]

This descent rotation is probably the easiest to farm nemesis on

[flint wave]

decent rotation

[tulip charm]

I want to do a skill build decent

[magic pilot]

I did 2 oxi runs the other day

[tulip charm]

waiting on glass cannon and cap talent

[magic pilot]

Was super fast

It was gluttony I think

[tulip charm]

oxi is pretty funny in descent when built up

[magic pilot]

Lucky shot works with it

[pastel shard]

now what about this (I wanna get a foundry bp and then put chillout back on)

[wheat anchor]

Embraced the idea of BK

54.4 chc, 119 chd

[magic pilot]

What in the rainbow

[magic pilot]

Change bp talent to protector or ad rush

[wheat anchor]

Dont even have adr rush lmfao

Thought I had it in the library, guess not

[pastel shard]

does forge n foundry shield health stack to 100% shield health??

[wheat anchor]

Wait is that the nanoplate chest exotic or whatever

[pastel shard]

tardigrade

[wheat anchor]

Fair

Definitely works for group play

[glossy scarab]

the water bear

[pastel shard]

idk if i want to use that or pointman with perf vanguard

[glossy scarab]

well with vanguard you get to pick when you put out that bonus armor

[pastel shard]

I need to get the liberty aswell

[glossy scarab]

thats a pretty easy project

or not project, but u know what i mean

[pastel shard]

ye

[wheat anchor]

Same

Imma just go kill wade a bunch of times

[pastel shard]

havent u gotta kill the spec bosses to drop the items?

[wheat anchor]

Gotta kill certain bosses yeah

I got the first 2 already

@pearl atlas scam link above

[glossy scarab]

yoink it

[vestal ibex]

Mod overlords save the day!

[pastel shard]

bruh

[pearl atlas]

👍

[wheat anchor]

Quick response

[glossy scarab]

thanks you

[pastel shard]

do the items have a higher change to drop on higher difficulties or should i jus speed run it on low

[wheat anchor]

Idk actually

Id assume higher difficulty is better

[glossy scarab]

probably doesnt matter

[wheat anchor]

If it was an actual exotic item for sure it would be difficulty influenced

[glossy scarab]

oh yeah def

[wheat anchor]

If I get it on this first run of viewpoint

Then it clearly doesnt matter at all

[solar berry]

the percent is higher as harder the difficulty. the stats is bigger also.

[glossy scarab]

this a specific exotic component, not an actual exotic

[solar berry]

at the same time. if you can run a mission/mode 1.5-2 times as fast than harder difficulty. its more efficient.

[wise swallow]

[pastel shard]

got my part first time

[glossy scarab]

win

[wheat anchor]

I did infact get it on the first try

Nice to know

American history time ig

Thinking about it, it makes sense

First time clearing the capitol you do get the exotic piece from the boss on the roof

[normal sundial]

What are some of the best SMG's for a striker build ?

[wheat anchor]

9mm vector

[acoustic coral]

Ourobouros and then a normal vector

[tulip charm]

Oreo banshee

[wheat anchor]

Dont bother with the 45 vector

Unless you are for some reason using pulse damage instead

[normal sundial]

Was expecting to hear at least a bout a named one :))

[wheat anchor]

Nah

[tulip charm]

Dark winter is mid

[wheat anchor]

Named ones arent really needed

Optimist is better generally

3% damage increase per 10% of the mag missing

[tulip charm]

🤓 actually optimist is good when you have alots of blue. Strained is better for dps.

[wheat anchor]

Ah yes strained on a 1380 rpm vector

[normal sundial]

cheers lads !

[wheat anchor]

You'll empty the mag in 1 second LOL

[tulip charm]

Damn you're running umbra?

[wheat anchor]

No

You get 1380 on the 9mm using strikers

Both sets give 15% rof ig

Plus I haven't bothered to farm an umbra set

[tulip charm]

eh it doesnt matter since they're both similar in damage even in strikers apparently.

[glossy scarab]

i gotta give umbra another chance but i dont know what weapon to use

probably an LMG

[turbid fiber]

Anyone have a good build for the diamondback rifle i just got it and dont know what to use with it

[pastel shard]

nothing 💀

[lyric prism]

salvage.

[lyric prism]

Dark Winter and any .45 does now as well.

[normal sundial]

best talent for the vector ?

[lyric prism]

strained.

fast hands is also a good one. try one then the other, see what works for you.

[wheat anchor]

Got the liberty, ofc it came with a max pistol damage instantly

[pastel shard]

i got all the parts n blueprint but cant craft it

[sly gulch]

try flatline for a red HB or use optimist, rpm too high and mag too low for strained

[sly gulch]

trash or ND, other than that you need a high end crit build but drop crit chance for handling and/or headshot

[wheat anchor]

You missing a d50?

[pastel shard]

no

i tried loggin in n out aswell

[wheat anchor]

What's it saying you are missing

[pastel shard]

it says recover the trigger mechanism at capitol but ive already got it

[wheat anchor]

Wth lmao

Send a screenshot

[pastel shard]

its jus 4 parts n the blueprint right

[lyric prism]

did you already make it before?

[pastel shard]

no

[wheat anchor]

The whole screen

Actually wont make a difference nvm

Check your resources tab

[lyric prism]

you have all four parts showing in Resources?

[pastel shard]

ye

[wheat anchor]

I love how Im just always gonna have the dodge city exotic pieces

I randomly got it in the open world before being able to craft it

[lyric prism]

I have all four Liberty pieces and got them well after making the pistol.

and yea thats them.

[glossy scarab]

you can make as many as you want as long as you have the other liberties on alt characters

[lyric prism]

but hayz has not made it before.

[glossy scarab]

ohh right

[pastel shard]

am i gonna have to make a new char get all the parts on that n try again?

[wheat anchor]

Wouldn't material sharing share the exotic pieces

[pastel shard]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wheat anchor]

Although would that just think you haven't gotten the trigger yet

Honestly idk

[glossy scarab]

if its anything like the way chatterbox works, the components will not drop if you already have a liberty in your inventory or stash

[lyric prism]

what if you go run Capitol again? does the trigger drop? I would expect it not to.

[upper patrol]

Is the the buff for damage on countdown?

[pastel shard]

no its cayotes mask

[lyric prism]

left is Coyote, right is Strikers.

[pastel shard]

i saw someone say do somethin with pistol targetted loot n itll drop so ill give that a go

[upper patrol]

i have no clue why i deal so much more damage sometimes then

[pastel shard]

well that mask can buff crit chance/damage

[lyric prism]

Striker stacks

[pastel shard]

or maybe its ur strikers stacks

[vestal ibex]

Countdown buffs are on the top left? Green icons

These are dem. Some do give a lot of damage. 1.2 mil is the number you said ealier today but that's a headshot crit on a normal obliterate elmo strikers full on stacks tho.

[magic pilot]

This is not all of them anymore btw

[vestal ibex]

More? wat?

[magic pilot]

Yea there's a lot more

[vestal ibex]

Where info? Gib it bish.

[flint wave]

bait used to be believable

[hexed steppe]

when were they added. afaik it was 1 addition after the initial drop

[magic pilot]

Someone posted one in here the other day where enemies drop a grenade or explode on death or something like that

[flint wave]

ur thinking kenly

lol ur washed af

[magic pilot]

Am I ?

Been playing descent for the last 6 hours my brain is gone

[lyric prism]

you named the forgotten aborted idea that shall not be named. let them have their suicide grenades

[magic pilot]

My fault

[lyric prism]

i blame elmo but ok

[magic pilot]

Fair

[muted hare]

Hey guys what’s a good talent for a ACS-12

[vestal ibex]

Depends on what you use it for. Fast hands if you reload and use multiple mags, stained if you do one mag and put it away, pummel if you can get three kills in a mag.

[flint wave]

I doubt anyone's using acs pummel unironically

[muted hare]

Wait would optimist work on shotguns since it has many pellets

[flint wave]

I tried it in the past on acs and it felt like virtually no extra damage idk how that works

strained is definitely better for that kind of thing

[muted hare]

I figured cause it says it’s based off on the amount of shots missing from the mag but it would be nice

[vestal ibex]

It's for the memes

I don't really know how many kills you can get with a mag in like solo heroic. Bros just main acs would be funny tho.

[lyric prism]

they should of made HB a dual wield class. the more you move and dual shoot the same guns the more armor you get.

ACS-12 forever.

[solar berry]

to op

[amber mortar]

What talent dps wise would you put on f2000

[vestal ibex]

Fast hands/stained

[tawdry flare]

Or use shield splinter

[rich cosmos]

Duel wielding is not balanced and isn’t realistic

Even Halo hasn’t brought back duel wielding

Its too unreliable for balancing

[upper patrol]

What is the bis pistol atm?

[shy willow]

Regulus

[lyric prism]

tell that to the Rikers.

[rich cosmos]

Well I mean of course the prison convicts wouldn’t know how to handle guns

[upper patrol]

Is that the DZ one?

[shy willow]

Iron Horse

[hushed gorge]

Hello chat

[tawdry flare]

Depends for DMG Regulus for utility kard kustom

[hazy steeple]

You're actually very close.
Regulus is locked to the Raid Project yeah, but Ravenous/Eagle Bearer/Bighorn are all farmable inside the DZ.
HOWEVER: it isn't affected by TL (targeted loot) and people can steal it, and it's roughly 0.024% drop chance (not an exaggeration) so just pretend they aren't in there and do the activity where they're otherwise found.

[bleak siren]

Any good true patriot builds to go based off of if im aiming for more damage over tankiness? or better off doing strikers or something else

[hazy steeple]

TP is a little bit pants right now, but the previous build listed on the spreadsheet should still work fine.
Strikers is 100% going to be doing higher damage of course, but that doesn't mean it's the only worthwhile build.

huh, could've sworn there's one on there.

[bleak siren]

There isnt I dont think, I took a look eariler

[lyric prism]

sp are the Super 90 series shotguns worth using now or still not?

[shy willow]

Try ‘em with fast hands

[hazy steeple]

super90 is still great, as always.

it's basically an m870, ish.

[lyric prism]

twice the hit or twice the rpm.

[bleak siren]

I found this:
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1iRgO-9AmeP6wo0CXY8e66lFkwD-chuVlxNhX94AjohM/edit

via iKia's build list database if that was what you meant? @hazy steeple

hope ping was okay < 3

[hazy steeple]

Ping is no problem if I'm on green status 🙂

[bleak siren]

oo okay thank thank

[hazy steeple]

okay that is for TU19 as far as I can tell.

[bleak siren]

Has there been major changes since? I am just getting back into the game so im still picking up whats all new

I know that pvp changed status effects balancing at the least

[hazy steeple]

I don't think TP was changed again in TU20, although I really don't care for the set so I'm not 100% sure.

[bleak siren]

I read the patch notes eariler and TP wasn't mentioned so I dont think so, as long as it wasnt a secret change

[hazy steeple]

I am actually thinking of Tip of the Spear, which was kinda nerfed into the floor with the changes to spec gun interactions.
TP was just never a powerhouse, but it seems fine enough.

[bleak siren]

Ohh gotcha

[hazy steeple]

Unless I'm horribly wrong, TruePat should be 100% fine with the 2.13 build. This appears to be a slightly later version.

[onyx sage]

super 90 has always been worth using

[bleak siren]

and i took a gander at youtuber builds and saw these too

[hazy steeple]

here's the full current list, including updated stuff where it has been.

[bleak siren]

oo thank you ill give it a look and see whats best for me between that and the two i sent!

[solar token]

can you not extract perfect talents?

[versed summit]

you cannot

[solar token]

ffs

this game is relentless

[tawdry flare]

Super 90 with fast hand is ❤️

Boy that change made it amazing

[rich cosmos]

The point of perfect talents is that they are locked onto the item

If they weren’t you’d never use the normal versions of talents

[strange wigeon]

Thoughts on this build for conflict ? Its pretty much just going for max SMG dmg and idk if its worth it

[hazy steeple]

As a general rule, 4 pieces or no pieces of a gearset, mostly due to the lack of attribute slots that they have compared to normal pieces, so you want that 4pc set bonus or just brandset bits.

I'm not 100% sure how you got to 8000 SHD level without realising this, outside of exploits.

There are of course exceptions, but 2pc HF is not really one of them.

[strange wigeon]

I know that's the rule for PVE builds, but the PVP dmg algorithm can be weird sometimes. Guess only way to find out is to try it myself

[hazy steeple]

No backpack damage talent, focusing entirely on a weapon damage, I assume the Electrique pieces were to get to the 30% SMG at the end but you sacrifice a heck of a lot of other stats to reach it.

Being as charitable as possible, I see one of Odder's weird "might be a joke might not" builds, but the Ouro is so stupidly strong that it could work.

I'm all for off meta, but I'd so some heavy testing before I relied on that, all I'm saying.

[limpid pelican]

i know you said you're trying to avoid striker, but if you're trying to run a meta ouro setup then striker with unbreakable or obliterate + coyotes is almost impossible to compete with

quite literally the only thing that can win against it is better aim with the same build, or just positioning

[strange wigeon]

or a 4-stack; I play solo a lot, so Im kinda depended on adrenalin rush to keep me alive while half my team is afk in spawn

[limpid pelican]

yeah true but in that case i'd say use a 1.7m crit build with ouro

2 piece sokolov, matador, grupo, catharsis and picaros. unbreakable onw/e u have

idk tho man if ur really 1v4ing like you say you are, it doesnt matter how much armor you have lol

[strange wigeon]

this is what Im running rn, and Im planning / farming for a 4th Armor Core piece. Works really well, even tho many pieces arent perfect

[limpid pelican]

do you get much bonus armor with only 3 blues?

[strange wigeon]

I dont have a sokolov chest and I would use it if I had it

[strange wigeon]

350kish times 3 is pretty good, but yeah idealy I would have another sokolov chest with armor core

[limpid pelican]

let me get a ss of a matador build i use with ouro

its really good for solo carrying conflict

have you tried using a perfect spotter vigilance setup by chance? @strange wigeon

you can also just ditch the 2 sokolov and run fox's + contractors. i think that may actually be better tbh

[strange wigeon]

tried perfect spotter before with ARs, but didnt like it, havent with Ouro

[limpid pelican]

try perfect spotter with lmgs

l86 or rpk

[strange wigeon]

I hate lmgs lol, promotes sitting in a corner, and camping, same goes for 1-shot builds

[limpid pelican]

i mean you keep saying you're alone 4v1ing...

you cant expect to face tank 4 people and make it happen with an smg lol

unless theyre literally bots

[strange wigeon]

well I can run in inhumane circles and put in a firewall armor kit, laser 1 person, then repeat until Im dead

[limpid pelican]

but we're not in the dz we're in conflict lol

they will mortar/stinger hive/fire sticky u

[strange wigeon]

oh if someone is using a skill build, Im switching to my skill build and sit in spawn, make them waste 12mins

[limpid pelican]

genuinely though, try that build but instead of grupo 2p sokolov use sokolov unbreakable as your red

then contractors and fox's

5 blues 1 red

[wise swallow]

you like cath?

[limpid pelican]

for console hell yeah

but then again like in conflict

just use perfect spotter vigilance...

[limpid pelican]

i like it when im running all blues and face tanking but i really dont use that build

im more of a beamer not a strafe player

[plucky thunder]

I need some help. I've just recently returned to division 2 and beatsn the dlc, and now i have no clue whats what for a build. I have an idea that id like to try but i thought maybe id come here for advisement, so hows this as a concept:
St elmos engine, lefty shotgun, and survivalist d50 for weapons
Vile mask, combined with eclipse protocol and the gift backpack
With the mender seeker mine and achilles pulse

If this is garbage i dont mind being told as much

[tulip charm]

Alright bro what do you like

We have a spreadsheet with up-to-date builds in pinned comments

[plucky thunder]

Im on my phone, i tried but the spreadsheet isnt exactly working out well for me

[tulip charm]

On the page you press the tab with builds then click on evernote on whatever build you want to see.

[plucky thunder]

Ok, thank you

Good gods i was a click off im dumb

Thanks

Not only a click off, but also a few details off from one of these builds, sweet

[tulip charm]

Feel free to drop any questions here later

[sacred raven]

which sniper rifle better than white death after update ?

[clever canyon]

Does the artificer hive boost anything other than skill damage / skill repair? It doesn't seem to extend the duration of riot foam, so it looks like it doesn't work for status effects?

[onyx sage]

1. damage, repair, duration refresh
2. correct

[clever canyon]

Thanks

[exotic saddle]

Is this build good for PvE? (I'm not gonna be using it for PvP)

3x Hard Wired (Mask, Chest, Kneepads)
2x Wyvern's Wear (Backpack with Crawling Death, Holster)
BTSU Gloves.

Stinger Hives + Shrapnel Trap.

813K Dmg on Hive and 1.6m Dmg on Shrapnel Trap.

(I don't really care about the 4-set bonus of Hard Wired, I simply want to deal as much Dmg as possible so I can start tackling Heroics and Legendary stuff)

[tulip charm]

Its not good ngl

[exotic saddle]

Y?

[tulip charm]

Using a gearset chest without using a 4 piece and the backpack doesnt make sense at all with that build. Only going for you is the occasional oc from btsu.

[exotic saddle]

What should I do then? Get a fourth hard Wired or go for another gear set?

[tulip charm]

3x Empress, 1x Wyvern, 2 Hana U

[plucky thunder]

Got a question about the spreadsheet, whats cc mean? I looked at the faq but it isnt listed

[exotic saddle]

I kinda don't want to get rid of the backpack since it has crawling death on it

[plucky thunder]

Is it crit chance?

[tulip charm]

Are you looking at Eclipse Protocol?

[plucky thunder]

Yeah

[tulip charm]

Crowd Control

[plucky thunder]

Ahh, thanks G

[tulip charm]

That talent is meh. Only used in cc builds.

[exotic saddle]

Well, the stinger and shrapnel both aply bleed, and with crawling death, it applies bleed in an 8m radius to Everyone, so it's perfect for cc

I could switch shrapnel for electrocution so it freezes everyone in place

[tulip charm]

Well issue is bleed in pve is garbo and shock trap is ok. If you’re so focus on trying to cc people just use eclipse protocol.

[flint wave]

3pc hardwired🗿

[tulip charm]

Dont forget the chest. 🗿

[flint wave]

fml

[exotic saddle]

What chest talent should I get on Empress?

[tulip charm]

Glass cannon if max damage, unbreakable for survivability

[exotic saddle]

Thx

[flint wave]

kinetic momentum is a good middle ground

[tulip charm]

I forget that talent exists

[exotic saddle]

Never heard of it, what it Do?

[tulip charm]

Builds stack for left and right skill bar and each stacks gives 1% skill damage and repair upto 15% and applies it to the skill when used.

[exotic saddle]

Hmmmmm

[tulip charm]

Its your build so you pick

[exotic saddle]

I'm prob gonna go unbrealakable on the chest since I can reroll for it

[clever merlin]

Anyone here use a hybrid red yellow build?

[gusty tapir]

so playing sniper isnt viable in pvp.... so everyone run striker oubouros?

[round zinc]

unlucky

[tardy flame]

its mostly used for drone turret builds in pve

[hexed steppe]

It's not really effective trying to make a strong skill build do dps as well.
Best option for hybrid, imho, is making a striker or nego dps build wih normal red cores/crit stats, then add memento bag/tech class/capacitor or insync mop as secondary weapon.
Could also use a future perfect weapon and use the talent to add more yellow cores.

The 30% skill efficiency from memento is % in every skill bucket.
6red 1blue 2yellow main cores.
With capacitor/memento fully charged you'll be rocking 90% skill damage.
If you use a glass chest your skills and weapons also get an amp to damage.

[sudden cloak]

What'd be a good build for legendary missions? I've got blue core strikers, memento and everyday carrier with firewall spec as my current legendary solo build

[round zinc]

honestly it entirely depends on how comfortable you feel using it

like i cannot for the life of me solo leggo dua on red striker

call it a skill issue whatever

[sudden cloak]

Dua is the only legendary I've soloed and it took me almost 2hrs, partly because I had to step away and eneded up losing my memento stacks

[flint wave]

with the murder of shield peek I'm almost convinced all red solo legendaries are impossible now lmfao unless you are insanely lucky

[sudden cloak]

I couldn't imagine trying to solo with full reds

[flint wave]

yeah and people were convinced it was the best way to solo legendaries

[round zinc]

it used to

i mean if you know how to then its technically one of the fastest

[flint wave]

it never was

[round zinc]

you definitely will need to be more tanky tho

i had this funny thought of running like 5 pfe blue sttiker

[flint wave]

then you start dieing and suddenly the theoretical 17 min run starts taking up 4 hours of ur time

[sudden cloak]

The only problems I have with legendary missions are grenade launchers, controllers and the explosive drones

[round zinc]

real

[flint wave]

that's technical for u

[round zinc]

thats like most solo leggo problem

[flint wave]

legendary wouldn't be hard if the explosion frequency was like heroic

[sudden cloak]

Them mfs are a pain

[round zinc]

i actually forgot about aegis

how is it

[flint wave]

it's been comfortable in my stash so far

[sudden cloak]

I don't think it has any use as far as I know

[round zinc]

nanomachines son

[sudden cloak]

Steelworks I've used a bit

[round zinc]

i was expecting aegis to be like a bulwark sidegrade

that doesn’t instantly fall apart when you get hit with a seeker or bomb drone

i forgot where i read it but shields are coded so that they instantly break on explosive

[flint wave]

if it hits the shield directly yeah

very annoying when it happens after you shoot a weakpoint

nice tier 6 shield bro

[round zinc]

what about overcharged shield

[flint wave]

even shock grenades that do no damage from elite grenade dogs on non legendary content can one shot the crusader shield

[round zinc]

do they at least tank it

[sudden cloak]

I try not to let my shield get hit

[flint wave]

idk

[round zinc]

imagine if the “unbreakable” shield loses to the 0 damage shock nade

hot take but firewall should grant fire immunity in pve tbh

[flint wave]

simply move demos 20% burn resistance to firewall

[round zinc]

20%

[sudden cloak]

Or change the 50% pulse res to fire res

[flint wave]

that 20% allows you to survive heroic sparkle fire grenade on a full red

[round zinc]

when stovepipe first came out i still have the 90% pfe backfire build

granted its a terrible build but holy crap it came in clutch so hard for sparkles lmao

bro was just a regular robo dog to me

get stomped nerd

[weary pier]

is this youtube build good

[round zinc]

do not let bro cook ever again

[weary pier]

😂

what can be improved? i was thinking changing the backpack

[strange wigeon]

i don’t think god herself could fix this build

[round zinc]

tbf there have been worse youtuber “builds” before

that umbra one at least kinda works

[strange wigeon]

yeah, but everything else doesn’t make sense lol

[round zinc]

you underestimated how low the bar has gotten

[strange wigeon]

unless you are specifically looking for a capacitor umbra build

[round zinc]

like i swear i saw a status duration st elmo build before

[strange wigeon]

wait let them cook, they are onto something big /j

[sudden fog]

Change that capacitor now

[tardy flame]

i think the most important info is what you want to use the build for

cause out of all the content in the game i never felt the need to build umbra ever before

[tawdry flare]

I mean sometimes build can be for memeing but than you have to it properly

[hexed steppe]

Technically cap is using 7 red core equivelant since there are 2 skilltiers

Dta/dttooc cap isnt necessarily a horrible choice... really depends on intent

[acoustic coral]

Time to create a copy-pasta that fits for division 2 builds based on the one from CS.
This [insert CSGO team or player here] is fantastic. Just needs to work on communication, aim, map awareness, crosshair placement, economy management, pistol aim, awp flicks, grenade spots, smoke spots, pop flashes, positioning, bomb plant positions, retake ability, bunny hopping, spray control and getting a kill.

Tihs build is amazing. Just needs to tinker with getting the right pieces, get the proper rolls, work on getting perfect rolls, use a better weapon, upgrade it with expertise, get 1000 SHD, change to striker's (I dunno what else it could be, I summon the council for this)

[tawdry flare]

Single gearset to rule them all

[tardy flame]

expertise

unless you included that in „tinker“

[acoustic coral]

Updated it, let's get some more in it.

[tame trout]

What would be a good LMG for a Stiker's build?

[tardy flame]

st. elmo

[tulip charm]

RPK, L86, MG5, Iron Lungs.

[tame crane]

This looks pretty usefull no? If I reroll health to HS damage?

[tulip charm]

Yeah

[hexed steppe]

It's a good piece but for hsd mmr you'll want chainkiller

[tame crane]

yeah I got chainkiller on this build, wasnt thinking of using it on my mmr build, just in the future for something else perhaps?

[tulip charm]

The only time I used that piece was for raid builds

[tame crane]

yeah thats what i had in mind

[hexed steppe]

Nego/ rifle build it will do well

Or highend rifle

[tulip charm]

Yeah

[onyx sage]

i think if you make it more general than just build making you'd have more items to list for more comedic effect.

idk if i'm part of the council tho

[tawdry flare]

If it's for memeing I would definitely be the head

[onyx sage]

or try this:

Your build is amazing. Just needs to stop using Merciless, Sacrum Imperium, NinjaBike backpack, 2p Heartbreaker, 2p Cavalier, Aces & Eights, 3p Lengmo, stop using Armor Regen and Health attributes, Walker & Harris outside of Chainkiller, or just use Striker with Ceska Vyroba chestpiece with Obliterate and St. Elmo's Engine. Next, your gameplay is perfect, you just need to work on not reviving your teammates in the open, not dropping decoy right on top of teammates, not bringing hackable skills to Countdown, cover-to-cover, dodge rolling, melee baiting, and learning how to solo legendary & incursion. I hope these simple tips help.

i'm being conservative with this so feel free to add more

[tawdry flare]

Negotiator is missing as well as high end and hunter's fury

[onyx sage]

those are actually good

[tawdry flare]

Yeah

I meant in outside of part

[onyx sage]

no but i mean just use one

for comedic effect it just needs to be striker

[lyric prism]

if you pinned that to auto show in order to post in this channel, the channel would die.

[vestal ibex]

I thought all you needed was 1k SHD?

[tawdry flare]

Striker with 2pcs 5.11 Peak Comedy

[pastel shard]

figured it out I had to run it again n the blueprint dropped which was weird cause it dropped the first time i did it unless its possible to dismantle a blueprint when u dismantle the other junk

[lyric prism]

so you got your Liberty now?

[pastel shard]

ye

[lyric prism]

I slept in the time you got it working. that took a while to figure out but yea it happens

and no you can't dismantle a blueprint

[pastel shard]

oh no I went to sleep n did a raid and a incursion before i had the will to do that mission again

[lyric prism]

lol ya

[onyx sage]

time to accept challenge again

[versed summit]

has focus/perfect focus lost favor because shield glitching doesn't work anymore?

[vestal ibex]

Don't you already do it without the peek thing?

[onyx sage]

i haven't played since patch dropped but i have some strats in mind that don't use focus any longer except for very few scenarios

it's just mostly going to be intimidate gaming

[bronze hound]

No?

[onyx sage]

no, shield peeking has been pretty essential in my runs actually. i need to go on more runs

[tawdry flare]

Mean dua and capitol is still soloable

Problem is tidal and Manning

[onyx sage]

but i have to do 6 red

[tawdry flare]

All red improvised pfe build

[vestal ibex]

From the speed runners I know who do legendary with strikers they favor strikers chest because it's got better overall uptime of damage.

[onyx sage]

i'll see when i get back what i can do

[tawdry flare]

Since focus has lost it's value

[vestal ibex]

I think it's always been that way tho.

[onyx sage]

i know mostly for myself i run striker chest a lot because i've been running six12 a lot

[versed summit]

I saw that Hutchler was recommending the chest now, but I didn't ask why. fair enough.

[bronze hound]

Build advice license revoked

Tbh

[onyx sage]

and focus hasn't really lost value, it never had the necessity to be ran with shield in the first place tbh

[tawdry flare]

The shield peeking has made its value

[tawdry flare]

Never had the licence so it can't be revoked

[bronze hound]

Spelling license revoked

[onyx sage]

if you can run focus you would because of the damage, the shield doesn't make it lose value

[tawdry flare]

Now outside of synchronised strats it's meh

[tawdry flare]

Don't know how to spele

[bronze hound]

I can tell

[vestal ibex]

I think focus was never great even with peeking, it's just too much blinders to what's going on and one of my personal strengths is situational awareness. Just how I feel.

[signal pendant]

Hey, I am seeing ppl run around doing 7M in headshot dmg with D50 hunter build, but I can't seem to get past 1.5M dmg, I am at 156% HeadShot Dmg, is it simply due to me being low SHD? since even if I get the next few to the 10% HS attributes, then it won't give the ~4x higher

[tawdry flare]

You could carry with focus previously

[onyx sage]

focus is just done when you have some distance between you and the enemy, so your exposure is less. the shield just foolproofs it

[bronze hound]

Are you using headhunter

[signal pendant]

Ohh yeah that's what I am missing, ty

[bronze hound]

That's like the only reason that build works lol

[onyx sage]

you can mitigate the tunnel vision by learning the tap rhythm, you can let go and zoom back in slow enough but still maintain stacks. but i agree you have to learn it, just saying it's not as hard as most people make it seem

[tawdry flare]

Me and bino have both run focus on tidal duo for the most part

[bronze hound]

I don't Speedrun because I touch grass personally

[signal pendant]

Forgot I had to get that one, so getting back to farming for that one

[tawdry flare]

Are we going to have this mechanic in your new raid ?

[bronze hound]

What mechanic

There's gonna be grass yes

[onyx sage]

touching grass

[tawdry flare]

Touch the grass

Gain buff on touching the grass

[bronze hound]

I can throw in a random spot that's just like

[F] Touch Grass

[onyx sage]

and then you wipe

[bronze hound]

Then gives you a backpack trophy

[tawdry flare]

Buff is proportional to the amount of time you touched the grass

[tawdry flare]

And an emote

[bronze hound]

Sure

Touch Grass emote

[tawdry flare]

Exclusive leak

[tawdry flare]

The boss of the mission

[vestal ibex]

I'd have to say I don't wanna get good at something I don't like doing for a thing that can be situationally better but isn't always. It's preference and I don't think that skill is that over shadowing of striker chest to warrant picking it up for any reason.

[onyx sage]

no i agree, if you don't solo or duo where it's hard to close in on the enemy due to survivability then you'd have no reason to learn how to do it. it's just it's still a valid category people like me like running in so it's a valuable skill there

i never said striker chest isn't worth running, it's very much so especially if you don't want to run focus or where focus is straight up impractical

there is a time and place for both

[vestal ibex]

Do you think PF is make or break or could you do these certain things without it?

[tawdry flare]

But yeah I deleted me focus builds from loadout and I am gonna revamp my load out

[onyx sage]

perfect focus just makes you reach your damage ceiling much faster if distance is already a thing you have to use for survivability, because you have to get that distance you can't stack that fast with striker alone (which makes striker chest lose value). but if you can get close then striker chest wins.

in some runs some of the strats i do simply don't work if you don't have enough damage to clear fast enough, but you can also just not play that risky and get by with obliterate. so it's not that make-or-break.

[flint wave]

tfw I unscope for .4 seconds and lose 60% of my damage output

[acoustic coral]

This is perfection

[vestal ibex]

Yeah, I do think that with project resolve and some of the new weapons and damage creep that PF is probably going to become an alternate strat as other new things pop up. Might be slow going tho because a lot of speed runners aren't motivated after the leaderboard botch and no prep/heli skips.

[onyx sage]

i agree, PF isn't going to be played as much post-resolve. i want to just really take a spin with it again and give the right verdict rather than just say outright it's trash without any actual experience

[glossy scarab]

do an obliterate and double the time it takes for the buff to disappear when you're out of scope

[flint wave]

anywhere perfect focus is practical in striker chest is also applicable

[onyx sage]

more like 10 times kek

[glossy scarab]

yea rly

[lyric prism]

so help me here. got a new player friend who is having some living issues. doesn't do raids or anything yet. they love Strikers/HF but need some aok or something to help. I thought maybe a pallisade chest w/ unbreakable for now, rolled red. y/n?

[shy willow]

If they really need it then a normal ceska chest with unbreakable should do it

[onyx sage]

yeah

[shy willow]

If they play solo then memento is enough

[onyx sage]

not final though, after they make the switch note how fast they're actually killing to benefit from that aok

[lyric prism]

no momento yet and plays some solo yea. doesn't like HB so I sort of started here just for some aok.

[lyric prism]

that is where I was sort of leaning.

[onyx sage]

just watch them closely, if it's fine then they can roll with that, if not we can discuss more

[lyric prism]

I really don't want to give them a false net, l2p is helping but something for a bit.

and ok ty.

[lyric prism]

we got lucky and dropped a chc/chd palisade mask in countdown so that some dps loss but nothing upset the other gear. ty for the help.

[glossy scarab]

i found a max rolled chc/chd palisades gloves but im more looking for chests and backpacks

[lyric prism]

I got bored and built a grupo/ceska/2p bellstone/palisade/contractors just to try it out last week. damage was ok, survival was higher.

but I felt better in my ND solo setup i put a palisade chest on. so many dots and the aok is always hitting. makes CP's and groups so easy and not losing armor.

but its a tradeoff.

[flint wave]

you already have so much crit with ND it's probably worth it

Free survivability

[lyric prism]

yea. I thought about 2p bellstone but given I sit in cover so much, it is my solo setup, didn't seem worth the need and so many better options in that regard like my grupo pack w/ vigilance.

but ND hits so well w/ its pack it would feel like a loss.

I do have one setup w/ ND chest and pack but don't use it much. makes CP4's stupid easy. dot 4-5 up, open up with an lmg on the leader.

[hexed steppe]

If anything pallisade+memento , I wouldn't 2pc bellstone

[lyric prism]

yea that too

unless you are building some sort of armor regen build I can't see 2p bellstone being worth it w/ palisade giving the aok on 1p.

[normal sundial]

Are the builds in the pin up to date ?

[hexed steppe]

Yes

They only thing that may be slightly off are the weapon suggestions. Nothing was nerfed but a few weapons had some buffs

[flint wave]

seeing fast hands be a recommended talent for acs is surreal

[hexed steppe]

Idk why anyone would use an acs that isnt lefty anyways 💀

[normal sundial]

SMG or AR for a Striker build ?

[hexed steppe]

Either

[flint wave]

damage

[hexed steppe]

Acs mains 💀

[flint wave]

theres no such thing as acs main

[hexed steppe]

No point in non utility talents on a stack gun. At least with lefty you can proc a 40% team bonus + an extra mod slot

[flint wave]

Acs is more then a stacker have you seen its damage up close

by close I mean almost pointblank

[hexed steppe]

You operate at point blank range alot?

[flint wave]

Heroic countdown has me at that range more often then u think

[hexed steppe]

Personally it's a stack gun. Most of the damage is gonna come from striker anyways. I'll stick with lefty as bis imho

[flint wave]

the other reason is I'm using gunner so having lefty is kinda pointless

I use it on my bloody knuckles version with survivalist

[hexed steppe]

Always have regular nades

[versed summit]

I'm still looking for an ACS I can put fast hands on 😋

[hexed steppe]

What chc do you see on it?

[onyx sage]

what ch do you c on it?

[normal sundial]

Some recommendations from the both categories ?

[hexed steppe]

Elmo ar, oreo smg

[normal sundial]

My bad, some easily obtainable as I have jsut started the endgame yesterday 😄

[hexed steppe]

Meaning acs only slots in 10% chc. So with the rest of the build what chc will it be at... considering the talent is based on crits

[versed summit]

you hit max fast hands at about half the mag with 60ish% crit chance. so it doesn't really matter IMO.

[hexed steppe]

So what's your other weapon?

[flint wave]

just roll chc attribute on ur acs to make up for the inevitable crit diff

[versed summit]

not seeing where this is going, but f2000 or oreo take your pic

[hexed steppe]

Must be way over crit if 60 on acs

[flint wave]

F2000 will be equal crit with acs

[versed summit]

yeah but if you hit max fast hands, at 60% crit chance, at half the mag, you theoretically can be at 30% crit chance and still max it out.

[wheat anchor]

Doesnt really matter

If you're gonna use an smg, 9mm vector

AR, there's countless

[pastel shard]

what about orororororo

[wheat anchor]

Literally an exotic 9mm vector

With 1500 rpm

And 45 vector damage

[pastel shard]

oh it is

i jus realised lmao

[versed summit]

basically. I'll build around whatever SMG/AR, and wherever my crit lands for the ACS, it's still going to max fast hands.

[wheat anchor]

Ouros talent is just one of those you forget about

Unless you plan on scuffing a pvp scenario by using ensnare bullets

[hexed steppe]

Wouldn't oreo be better as a stack/damage weapon and f2000 as main?

With the rof you wouldn't have to rely on a subpar acs

[versed summit]

I think your crit balance would be even wonkier like that.

I wouldn't say the ACS is going to be subpar, but sure.

[flint wave]

scorpio would be the secondary exotic you'd use then if you want perfect crit balance with f2000

[hexed steppe]

Ok, fair. Subpar outside after 1meter

[flint wave]

👍 ⠀

[pastel shard]

the scorpio says the 7th hit makes em take more damage but when do you know the 7th hit is active?

[hexed steppe]

When your shots increase in damage. No indicator afaik

[hexed steppe]

You can keep an eye on the status tho. Once shock is applied next shot procs the increased damage

[pastel shard]

thats the way i was doing it but i wanted to check incase i was bein dumb

[hexed steppe]

Nope, spot on 👍

[dreamy valve]

which is better dps

[plucky thunder]

Are there any good achilles pulse builds? I was lookin at a bunch on the spreadsheet last night and it doesnt seem like it

[tulip charm]

Because achilles pulse is only use for one shotting hard bosses

[acoustic coral]

The funpolice said no Sadge

[plucky thunder]

Fr

Damn shame, i wanted a reason to use it so bad

[tulip charm]

I keep it realistic

[plucky thunder]

Better than tellin me there is only for me to find out through experience how piss it is

[main socket]

Any advice for LMG build and which LMG can I use

[tulip charm]

Dw one day you’ll start speed running legendary and raids and start using it!

[flint wave]

who uses Achilles in legendary

[plucky thunder]

Me now, out of spite

[tulip charm]

L86, RPK, both MG5, Iron Lungs.

And just pick your favorite dps build.

[plucky thunder]

Cant even do legendaries but imma achilles them and myself

[tulip charm]

Last time I’ve seen it was in DUA

[gentle lichen]

Last boss can be killed by it without breaking bag

So it is the meta move to Achilles him

[flint wave]

yea 1 niche use in legendary

[sonic veldt]

you can use it to do double headshot damage on something

so any OS build

[tulip charm]

Dont forget raid one shots!

[gentle lichen]

Raids 😹

[tulip charm]

If you need achilles to one shot in a hh build then you fail already

[onyx sage]

i did striker six12 golden bullet against dua boss once

i just foamed him once and spammed six12 so fast he died

no need to break backpack

[sudden cloak]

Hm didn't think to use it on the boss when I did dua the other day

[onyx sage]

you'd need someone to overcharge the team, you need OC'd achilles

[tulip charm]

Yeah

[sudden cloak]

Damn

Trying to work on soloing it

[tame trout]

Is heartbreaker still viable for survivability and damage while playing solo?

[vestal ibex]

Yus.

It's not going to compare to the other damage sets but it'll work and is an easy farm.

[tame trout]

Up to heroic and all? Nice

[tulip charm]

Yeah

[vestal ibex]

The memento/ceska with HB chest and tech spec with linked laser is probably your best solo build and it'll allow you to be super aggressive.

[tame trout]

Ah, gotcha. So I should run Kingmaker to be able to use the laser instead of sticking with St. Elmo

[lyric prism]

for max spotter yes, or just any AR w/ spotter that can use the tech laser.

[flint wave]

memento striker is a better solo build then anything hb can produce

You can play just as aggressive if not more

[plucky thunder]

Do marks from something like the perfect sledge talent also count as marked enemies for the sake of things like negotiators dilemma? Or are the marks all separate

[lyric prism]

ND has its own mark.

[plucky thunder]

Ok, thanks

How wells this UI build in the spreedsheet do in raids and such?

[tulip charm]

UI?

[vestal ibex]

umbra

[plucky thunder]

Umbra initiative

[tulip charm]

Oh

[plucky thunder]

Sorry g

[tulip charm]

meh

its not bad but striker exist

[plucky thunder]

Dunno if im good enough to keep large stacks going for very long, need me a bit of cushion

Ill take not bad

For now

[flint wave]

only 200 stack striker is hard to maintain depending on content

[versed summit]

good thing about striker's is the worse you are the more stacks you're going to build. kind of.

[tulip charm]

what

[vestal ibex]

I mean he is right.

The worse your striker build the more you are at max stacks.

When you kill people and can't out stack the degrading stack is when you've met first world problems.

[tulip charm]

Oh

[gentle lichen]

What are you going to do with the stacks on a bad build though

[vestal ibex]

Kill things slower?

[versed summit]

kill something eventually

[tulip charm]

build so bad striker has to carry itself

[gentle lichen]

Emphasis on "eventually"

[tulip charm]

truly a build of all time

[glossy scarab]

i want a gear set that'll make me stop using strikers

[flint wave]

hotshot

[glossy scarab]

oh i do use hotshot

[gentle lichen]

Welcome to nego

[glossy scarab]

i need to train myself for nego. too many single kills

im great with it at first, but after a while it slips

[vestal ibex]

That's what she said.

[patent fossil]

try running nego with vigilance instead of nego backpack, it'll help more with single target damage for when you forget/can't tag multiple enemies

[glossy scarab]

good idea

[true thunder]

So if I was running all directives on heroic or challenging what should be a build I try n make?

[glossy scarab]

HHF w a D50 or regulus

[true thunder]

I don’t got this 😔

Sadge

[glossy scarab]

oh well i dont have reg either

[true thunder]

No I mean I d50

I don’t even got 1

[glossy scarab]

yeah they can be a pain to find

[true thunder]

Do you have that hunter fury build? Could you send me a ss of what to run?

Because last I played n knew the “builds” there way only yellows in the game

[glossy scarab]

let me check

[true thunder]

So trying now is Spain

[fair shell]

Any way to make this better going for tank build

[tulip charm]

tank tank or tanky?

[fair shell]

tanky and some damage

[tulip charm]

ok

[true thunder]

I remember I used to use some yellow build with 6 skill tiers but I forgot what pieces n talents I had :/

[fair shell]

I do double my armor during combat but I was thinking if anything can be changed

[glossy scarab]

something like this. you can use a couple blue cores for more survivability and it still works. esp with ouro

you can use a sokolov backpack tho

[true thunder]

Your reds are crit?

[glossy scarab]

or memento

yea mostly crit dmgg

[true thunder]

Alright

I’m only shd lvl 235 atm

[glossy scarab]

this is not the pistol build i was talking about tho

its for smg shottie

[true thunder]

Oh

[glossy scarab]

on the pistol version its all hsd

[tulip charm]

Personally I would replace the bagpack to a ceska with vig and keep the heartbreak pieces blue

while running technician

[true thunder]

🙏 bless up

[true thunder]

Only thing I think I’m missing from this is the bag , named chest and kneepads

I got everything else

[glossy scarab]

any chests with headhunter on it?

[true thunder]

I got a prov piece

[glossy scarab]

thats good

[true thunder]

But I don’t got a dnh backpack

[glossy scarab]

do you have memento

[true thunder]

Yea

[glossy scarab]

or any other vigi backpack like walker and harris maybe

[pastel shard]

quick question but is there any reason why people prefer me runnin the left build over the right one, the right one gives me a armor core n 10% skill haste whilst the other gives me 8% dtoc n 10% rifle damage
The rifle damage and haste dont get used so i was jus wondering why people prefer the left

[true thunder]

No 😔

I have ceska

That’s ab it

[glossy scarab]

that could work. but try memento too

[pastel shard]

corrected my wording

[glossy scarab]

i guess the foxes prayers do more for your damage than picaros (which isnt very good outside pvp)

[true thunder]

Am I the only one experiencing my recal station not loading for me to be able to recalibrate?

[pastel shard]

so they jus prefer the dtoc over the armor?

[true thunder]

Legit makes me want to get off before I even get on…..

[tulip charm]

Yeah

[glossy scarab]

yeah dtoc over an armor core for sure

i mean the picaros version will still work fine

[pastel shard]

i run the picaros for other stuff its jus cause people prefered my runnin the left for raids

[glossy scarab]

yeah dmg needs to be as high as possible in raids

[pastel shard]

ok ty

[true thunder]

Like does ubi know about me not being able to recalibrate gear?

Holy fuck

[pastel shard]

do you guys think its worth swappin my foxes for a grupo or ceska

[true thunder]

I’m very annoyed with this game rn

[pastel shard]

cant u do it from ur inv

[true thunder]

Yeah but it doesn’t even load

I try the station same thing

😐

Great game.

2000+ bugs “ fixed “

Yet I can’t even see what I’m missing if I’m even missing anything to recalibrate

What the fuck

[pastel shard]

that was fixed

[true thunder]

I still can’t

😐

[lyric prism]

m700 carbon/tactical. is determined still the talent or we have something else now?

[true thunder]

Believe it hasn’t changed

The fact I can’t give the server a video of what the fuck I’m dealing with

Is infuriating

[lyric prism]

so you go to the bench and click it, its blank?

[true thunder]

I got to the bench I’ll see it without moving anywhere I go to move one space from “rifles” everything dissapears

[hearty cloak]

i wanted to try to make a grenade build with collector, im unsure what stat grenade damage scales though, i put contractors and foxes prayer for more damage, i assume it works that way

[true thunder]

WHERE IS MY COMPENSATION CACHE HUH

A week of this shit

I can’t even play the game

[lyric prism]

what about when you try tinker direct from a piece of gear?

[true thunder]

Same thing

Exactly why I’m saying WHERES MY COMPENSATION CACHE

FOR MY GAME BEING BROKEN

[rocky rain]

With a SMG, does it matter if I choose a gear with 10% SMG damage versus 10% CHD? Is there a better option (assuming CHC is 60%)?

[versed summit]

how man weapon damage attributes/red cores do you have?

and what's your crit damage at for that matter?

[rocky rain]

It is more a general question as how they relate. But let’s say 6 reds and all attributes on CHD

Hunters Fury setup

[true thunder]

You will see my frustration.

Same thing happens at the bench

[rocky rain]

Swapping between backfire and Lady death

[true thunder]

UBI GIVE ME MY COMPENSATION CACHE

[pastel shard]

why dont u jus tinker how u did in the first 14 seconds

[true thunder]

Yeah I can only do that to the piece equipped on me right now

I swap and it won’t work 😂

Again though I’m back to square one of ubi get my damn compensation cache ready

[glossy scarab]

thats super weird

[true thunder]

Yeah for real

This game is great.

I have so much fun!

Not.

Well time to try again I guess later

Because this is stupid

[hexed steppe]

Never gonna see it

Preaching to the choir, nobody here had anything to do with your bad luck

[acoustic coral]

Question, if you go into your inventory, down to the item you want to work on and then press tinker, will it then allow you to for that item? Because then you have a workaround. You're the first I've seen to have reported this specific issue, so could consider closing game, complete reboot of PlayStation and then restart. If that doesn't work, is there a "verify game files" equivalent on PS? Try that.
If it still doesn't work, make a ticket and use the workaround.

[patent fossil]

as well as creating a ticket, you could try putting a post on the official support discord (linked in the pins in #unofficial-troubleshooting ) as it might actually get forwarded to a dev from there. I second the 'try verifying/reinstalling files' first though, because I also haven't seen anyone else post an issue like this, and consoles are usually pretty consistent.

[lyric prism]

wear 4p hotshot/chainkiller/airaldi pack and SEE is at 152.9 hs dmg.

I'm going to run it this way and make a youtube video.

I shall wear a funny yellow raincoat and call it "TOTAL DZ LOCKDOWN AR BUILD" or something

[pastel shard]

anyone got any good skill builds

[lyric prism]

the spreadsheet in the pins

[pastel shard]

ty

there any cool shotguns other than backup thing n scorp

[flint wave]

acs12

six12

[hazy steeple]

It more depends on what you need them for.

[pastel shard]

not acs i will try a six12

more damage than scorp pretty much it

[hazy steeple]

If you're going for pure single damage, both of those choices aren't super great.

[tulip charm]

m870 💪

[hazy steeple]

it helps if you let us know the build.

[pastel shard]

nvm got it sorted

[half patio]

I haven't played in ages. Any suggestions on a good solo build?

[vapid bobcat]

guys suggestions on true patriot build?

[lyric prism]

in the pins above is the spreadsheet of current builds and answers.

[tame trout]

Oh, picking up from this question.. What combination of blue and red cores should I run?

[lyric prism]

that is a personal prefrence. most say start with 3/3 and see if you want more dmg / feel like you are not dying.

[wise swallow]

I run 2 personally. mainly cuz the bonus arrmour is enough to keep me alive

[upper patrol]

What build would the best for countdown? Been playing striker with Oru and changing for elm sometimes but i want something tankier

[urban latch]

a lot of people will say strikers, I personally prefer a high end build with DCH and regulus

[tulip charm]

Heartbreak yo

[urban latch]

tbh I dont really get the reason to go tanky in countdown. Things have a lot of armor, but dont really do much damage, so just go pure damage and you should be fine. CC hunters, dont try to tank them

[magic pilot]

I run hazpro foam on extraction if I'm playing with my clan

Everyone else is full dmg or red Fi or ongoing

[urban latch]

I think people just need use faraday more, its so strong but so few people ever think to actively use it

[lyric prism]

ep cc w/ creeping death and foam/banshee pulse.

countdown glass fun, go full hazpro. only death can stop you.

[magic pilot]

I use foam and blinder

[lyric prism]

or that ya.

[magic pilot]

For extraction specifically because there's no mini tanks or warhounds

[lyric prism]

I tried all of them. I do like swapping to fire in place of foam occasionally but the foam is too useful.

[magic pilot]

Otherwise i would run foam and emp jammer and sticky

[magic pilot]

I don't run tech enough lol, I should use it more

[urban latch]

its got to me the spec I use more than any other

[magic pilot]

Firewall shield is too nice to give up

I do want to use flatline more so I'll probably start running it

[urban latch]

+1 shield tier from tech

[magic pilot]

What to proc faraday with though?

[urban latch]

revive hive or any other deployable skill you want to run

[lyric prism]

traps?

[tulip charm]

Probably

[sonic veldt]

rock n roll

[restive python]

currently bugged tho

[sonic veldt]

a little yeah

[wary tundra]

what dmg bonus type is the hotshot 4pc 20% dmg boost? is it just a multi 20% increase?

trying to decide between a hotshot bp and vigilance

[final orchid]

Airaldi BP with vigilance is what I use

[onyx sage]

yeah, it's just 20%

when you have headhunter stacks it's a bit less though

[wary tundra]

how so

[onyx sage]

and always pick vigilance

[onyx sage]

just headhunter shenanigans

[wary tundra]

doesnt quite explain much eh

is the 20% additive with HH bonus?

[onyx sage]

so, hh damage = shot damage + hh bonus right

hotshot 20% only applies to shot damage

so it's like 1.2 × shot damage + hh bonus instead of 1.2 × (shot damage + hh bonus)

[wary tundra]

oh wow

[onyx sage]

so it's going to be less than 20% in real effect

quite a bit less

[wary tundra]

well that would make it way less though right

cos the hh bonus is like 90%+ of a single shot dmg

[onyx sage]

yeah, but the real answer to your question is you can have both hotshot 4p and vigilance, which is ideal

you can sidestep the issue of missing with hotshot by using determined, it makes it easier

[wary tundra]

well if the hotshot bp is good enough then i can either use gunslinger (fun) or offset with like fox's or something for overall higher QoL

[onyx sage]

nah, you'd drop the 4th piece and just use 3p hotshot

because as you saw earlier, the 4p buff isn't that big, so people usually drop it to run another piece

vigilance is still the mainstay

[wary tundra]

yea the 4p is nice tho for regen and reload + bp helps with helmets

[onyx sage]

unlike 4p hotshot, the 25% from vigilance DOES multiply with both numbers

[wary tundra]

i would for sure run 3p in a full party

[onyx sage]

me personally, i run 3p hotshot with airaldi vigilance bp, chainkiller and dch

it's already killing everything i care about in legendary thanks to white death expertise (now would be with sr-1 instead)

so yeah, you can drop the 4p just fine

[wary tundra]

dch?

[onyx sage]

dodge city holster

[wary tundra]

ah ye

[hazy steeple]

Don't forget to make sure your stability hits 100% with 3p Hotshot.

100% no misses even when blind firing if you aim it right.

[onyx sage]

blindfire svd is going to be what i make next

[wary tundra]

whats ur chest brand?

[final orchid]

its chainkiller

[onyx sage]

chainkiller chest, so walker & harris

[wary tundra]

oh duh lol

[hazy steeple]

you can also use a non-perfect version, but chain' is much easier to get.

[wary tundra]

i always confuse chainkiller and headhunter

[onyx sage]

yeah, if you don't use airaldi + chainkiller you can use 2p habsburg, but it's asininely painful to farm

[wary tundra]

my calc said providence HH > chainkiller

or the gift + airaldi HH

[onyx sage]

for first shot damage or max stack damage?

[wary tundra]

for max ofc but im shooting at max almost all of the time

[onyx sage]

first shot damage yes, max stack damage no