td2-build-advice

[hollow pasture]

Even for turret drones I do not see anyone here really mention rigger

[flint wave]

Rigger bag makes it so when you deconstruct a skill it deletes the cooldown

I wish there was a good use for that

only thing I can think of is infinite decoys

Dps rigger infinite decoys

Never be shot

[hollow pasture]

I'm not really into turret drone builds so I guess it's out of my area of expertise

More of a HW seeker spam or eclipse build

[flint wave]

Hw seekers disappointed me

[hazy steeple]

The best thing about Rigger is that you can't name a loadout after it.

[flint wave]

Skill gearsets mid compared to high end

[hollow pasture]

Yes I can see why

[flint wave]

"Infinite threat" is gonna be my name

[urban latch]

Infinite "threat"

[hazy steeple]

Rigger is the 5.11 of gearsets.

[flint wave]

In a parallel universe where I use 1/16 loadout slots for a rigger build

[hollow pasture]

Hey guys let's randomly buff habsburg bonus so it gets MORE STATUS EFFECTS (sniper brand set BTW)
But let's not touch rigger whatsoever

[flint wave]

Sniper cc hybrid in the making rn

[hollow pasture]

Massive only has budget for one gear set tweak at a time

[flint wave]

You have 100% potential when you hit ur shots

[hazy steeple]

There's 2 PTS phases of Project Resolve.
just because people here seem to have forgotten.

[flint wave]

Project resolve and project desolve

I forgot

[hollow pasture]

I will bet the 10 million euros I do not have that they don't even know rigger exists by now
Zero chance it would get changed in phase 2

[flint wave]

Does rigger bag refresh all the charges of the hive or just the first charge thags the real question

[hollow pasture]

There'd be a bigger chance they change sys corr than ever remember rigger exists

[hollow pasture]

I would test that but that would require me having any rigger pieces in my stash

[flint wave]

Calling all 3 rigger users

[brisk barn]

you called?

[hollow pasture]

The rigger phone is dusty nobody has used it since 2020

[brisk barn]

just the first charge

[flint wave]

😭

that's so ass

[unkempt dune]

What is best pvp weapon? Elmos vs ourboros vs famas?

Considering you will equip gears to fit the weapons

[patent fossil]

ouroboros most damage, elmos most CC if they don't have resist

[hazy steeple]

It's worth noting the upcoming changes though, I'm sure someone who PvP's more can fill them in.

[flint wave]

Elmos is the 1v1 cheeser 50% of the time because nobody is running shock resist for some reason still

[hexed steppe]

They sure seem complain about it a lot tho 😂

[cursive gull]

for tank builds do you guys run opportunistic or protector more?

[onyx sage]

protector isn't that helpful because it's reliant on enemies hitting you but opportunistic is

[cursive gull]

ive been running opportunistic for the most part

also is it just me or can i not focus Yaahl gear at all?

[urban latch]

Context matters for tanks. Ideally your just using them in raids where you already have a healer with opportunistic anyways, so running it yourself doesn't really help. Protector doesn't do much, but it's something and there's not many better options for that role.

[cursive gull]

mine is just a variation of the haz build but i use it mainly in countdown for hunter countering

[junior surge]

I run opportunistic, protector or adrenaline rush depending on the boss. Galvanize is a good option too depending on situation

In countdown, galvanize or opportunistic are best imo

[cursive gull]

this is what im running so far

[flint wave]

what are you running tank for

[cursive gull]

countdown mostly, but can use it for raid if needed

[flint wave]

This is the countdown tank build I use when I play support, replacing grudge with lefty

Most useful team buffs possible and hits harder them a wet noodle

it's not the absolute most survivable but you really shouldn't need 6 pfe mods worth of survivability

[glossy tiger]

Banshee smg, love that gun

What’s the drop rate for Oro from the incursion?

[cursive gull]

if they would only fix the clipping on the extended mags 🙃

honestly like the haz pro setup the best but i need to level my watch higher so i can get the disrupt immunity and complete the build

[flint wave]

haz pro might work too with this build baseline but I cba to farm blue od unicorns🤢

[cursive gull]

i have my EG unicorn and just using the watch to fill in the missing Haz Pro for my build

[marble root]

massive i won the 1/3 for st elmo

st elmos cr cdmg ratio is 51/131, with 78% dmg bonus, thoughts?

[junior surge]

Stats are honestly somewhat misleading. These numbers alone don't define how hard you'll hit, gear talents and amplifiers will have a huge impact on that

You can have a 60%chc 200%chd damage build that hit's less hard than a 50%chc 140%chd damage build just because of talents on chest and back

[hexed steppe]

For countdown hazpro cc eclipse with opportunistic is phenomenal

[flint wave]

rip creeping death

Give this man creeping death

[marble root]

should i sack strikers chest to get glass cannon

[flint wave]

10 second cooldown for a 12m effective radius increase is awesomer then opportunistic I thought

[junior surge]

I find striker chest to be very situational. I'd recommend a ceska chest with obliterate or glass cannon, or a sacrifice

[marble root]

ok

[flint wave]

personally I hate gc on everything except skill builds which I also hate

You take so much damage

[junior surge]

Eh, you get folded on a full red build anyway

[marble root]

my kinda build

[flint wave]

Atleast a purple explosive drone doesn't kill all armor and health to proc one shot protection

[junior surge]

The burst from gc can really help keep you alive

[marble root]

6 red main, 8 red mini

[flint wave]

Gc will never keep you alive

The damage gained is not worth it

[junior surge]

That's like your opinion man

[flint wave]

Do you even use glass

this is copium

[marble root]

gc activelty kills survivability tf are you smoking and where can i get some

[junior surge]

Yeah lol, I use it almost everywhere lmao

[marble root]

i actively take 50% more dmg 💀

[flint wave]

Big balls but I don't need that kind of risky af playstyle

[junior surge]

7 of my 16 builds have glass or perfect glass

[marble root]

with all due respect

[onyx sage]

gc works, it's just down to preference

[marble root]

you need help

[flint wave]

Stacking red cores is enough damage. Sometimes more then enough

[gentle lichen]

Kill or get killed kind of survivability. Some people fancy that

[onyx sage]

but most of the time other bonuses outscale it

[flint wave]

obliterate fills in the chest talent

[junior surge]

I find that I go down more often without glass because my playstyle revolves around bursting enemies before they can get shots in

It's all just a matter of playstyle

[gentle lichen]

Yeah that's a playstyle right there

[marble root]

the only place where gc works over obli is with single fire, slow rpm guns

[gentle lichen]

Gc is better than obliterate in terms of damage

[marble root]

like snipers/rifles/shotguns

[flint wave]

Even when I had vigilance as my backpack talent I didn't notice a single difference on my high end dps

except the fact explosions are the most dangerous thing known to man

[gentle lichen]

One is added to TWD and one amplifies all weapon damage. I fail to see how they are the same

[flint wave]

I didn't say they were the same

[junior surge]

Especially because vigilance is also twd, so in that case especially it's just more damage lol

[flint wave]

But the only difference I saw in game that was noticeable was me never being safe since anything will break armor instantly

[gentle lichen]

And on demand kind of damage?

[junior surge]

What kind of content were you playing with it

Content played matters hugely here imo. Missions for example have different pacing from raids.

[flint wave]

I don't play raids

Unless u call cd a raid

[opal egret]

Is it worth to grind a hazpro PvP build with coming PvP status effect changes?

[onyx sage]

regulus nooooooooo

[flint wave]

Heroic open world and missions last time I gave gc a proper shot on dps

[marble root]

i 100% read that as hazbro i aint gon hold you

[flint wave]

Iron horse dead

[gentle lichen]

Yeah. 1 shock resist mod

[flint wave]

another blue matador?🗿

wait where sokolov piece

Or a 2nd walker

[gentle lichen]

Of every kind

[gentle lichen]

Hazpro takes a toll on your brand selection

[opal egret]

So it will still be a viable choice to be with a decent amount of hazpro even after the status effect nerfs in PvP? I’m just worried to waste my time into farming a full god roll PvP build that just gets useless cuz of the changes coming next season 😂

[flint wave]

I don't see a reason to run grupo unless that famas is also getting usage often since there's a lot of blues

[gentle lichen]

I mean the most cancer status (foam/shock) are getting nerfed pretty harshly

[gentle lichen]

On range yeah coyotes gives me chc

[flint wave]

I tested it and those 10% gun damage pieces are exponentially better the more blues u have

[modern marsh]

im just now getting back into this stuff and dont know where to start XD

[gentle lichen]

Yeah more value with blues less with reds

[opal egret]

Yeah, that was my thought too. The main reason to run hazpro is man’s people running shock, but shock gets the biggest nerf hammer possible (though it’s deserved)

[gentle lichen]

We still don't know by how much our speed is getting reduced when shocked

Maybe sledgehammer level? Bleed level?

[flint wave]

Elmo shock is still gonna cheese 1v1s if you don't run acceptable shock resistance I predict

but now shock resist should fully counter it instead of still being stunned for .5 sec

[gentle lichen]

Bonus armor makes you immune from shock

[flint wave]

Next patch?

[gentle lichen]

That's how it is currently

[flint wave]

Damn it never felt like it to me

[gentle lichen]

I cheese it when i use tech with chem and ad rush bag

Don't even need shock resist

[flint wave]

I thought the times where I hit people with shock and they don't shock is because they are running resist like a normal person

[gentle lichen]

Shocker punch however. Bypasses the bonus armor immunity

Like the shock trap

[cursive gull]

means more people running ouroboros, exactly what we need

[pastel path]

Is OB or st elmos better?

[cursive gull]

without shock ouro is better, with shock and no haz pro elmo is better currently

[slate wedge]

@vestal ibex what would you say is your average time o0n finished runs?

[hexed steppe]

Nah, I've ran creeping. Opportunistic way more useful. I get some of my amp back+8 others get amped. Add scorpio, add perfect sledge and it's a wrap. Never looked back💯

[flint wave]

As if 8 dudes are shooting the same target other then starting hunters

Perfect sledge + long foam status is good enough too. Even better tbh since it often catches the whole group with creep

Oppo seems so extra

[hexed steppe]

Dont need creep if there is a ton of death spread

[vestal ibex]

For the incursion?

[slate wedge]

yes

[vestal ibex]

Yesterday we got like a 7:37, 7:44, and a few other sub 7s but usually we reset if we miss a time. 45 on turrets, 1:11 to open gate at tanker, 3:02 or higher at moss kill, if wright gets botched we reset otherwise we'll run it out.

[slate wedge]

i see

[vestal ibex]

Are you guys on the reset grind now then?

[slate wedge]

kinda yeah, we constantly get like 7:05-7:25 runs but really rarely below that

we usually reset on a 47 or lower on entrance

[vestal ibex]

Yeah if OXY guy has a bad load it's a reset anyway.

[brisk barn]

Instead of speedrunning incursion you guys should be carrying me to get ouro 🫠

[vestal ibex]

Yeah yesterday we had a run going, we opened wrights door at 3:42 and then last valve didn't get turned right, just couldn't turn it.

[vestal ibex]

I have given like 15-20 away tho. I'll be helping people in a couple hours too.

[brisk barn]

I’ve opened 4 caches and done 2 extra runs and I’ve gotten nill

I can’t talk tho I have EB and Ravenous from basically 3 raids total 🫠

[onyx sage]

it's okay i haven't done it in a hot minute after getting ouro

and flawless

[vestal ibex]

Flawless is just a mask.

Easiest way to get flawless is git gud and have a smooth run.

[onyx sage]

thanks captain obvious

jkjkjk

[vestal ibex]

I'm always here for you.

The true key is to just not die.

[brisk barn]

Surely if you survive until Wright flawless is easy

[vestal ibex]

Martinez hitting turbo on that flame thrower.

[brisk barn]

Im going to be honest
Which one of the lovebirds is the female? 😭

[vestal ibex]

The thicc flame thrower girl.

[brisk barn]

Ok that’s what I thought

[slate wedge]

i rarely have a bad load usually i am first to open the door

[vestal ibex]

Brokens PC is a potato.

We have times the walls don't load and have to reset lol

[hexed steppe]

@vestal ibex are you guys still WR glitchless? had mo's vid from a few days ago popup on my feed while i was working.

[slate wedge]

had that aswell haha

[vestal ibex]

Yeah 6:30 currently. We are following a certain rule set too.

[slate wedge]

is there any other team between you and 6:50?

[hexed steppe]

very nice

[vestal ibex]

Yeah but they use determined. You guys also don't reset your doors, not that it matters but some picky people might not consider it to vrooms community%.

[slate wedge]

we got a 6:50 with closed doors today

currently our best

[plain moth]

Hi everyone! returning player from the initial NYC expansion. what would be a recommended build for an old man that can't aim very well? I was thinking of trying a skill build and letting the drone / turret do most of the work but not sure if that's viable?

[hexed steppe]

yeah turret/drone is still viable but not in all game modes. like countdown/incursion/raid you want a dps.
i would suggest a mortar build as its a bit more interactive and a lot of fun

[plain moth]

thank you! I play alone 99% of the time so that should work for me. I appreciate the help!

[cursive gull]

i cant fathom what the goal is for this build lol

[hexed steppe]

no purpose. must be for expertise

[wise swallow]

silly

[urban latch]

they are shd 36, they are just throwing on whatever theyve got with high rolls, likely thinking just because its green its a higher tier and better

[cursive barn]

I've looked at the negotiators dilemma build in the spreadsheet, and i've been thinking of running it with my st elmos as the primary and going vigilence/obliterate on bp/chest. Is it a good idea to swap to gunner for some armor regen on kill, ammo etc instead of technician, cuz I cant run the pointer plus flatline?

[urban latch]

Yeah, that's a solid choice. Spec is mainly just down to preference

[hollow pasture]

Low shd like raucey said lol
Probably don't have many pieces to put together a better build

[quasi wren]

Hello guys! quick question, what's the best / most ideal healing build out there?

[flint wave]

future initiative

with the chest always

[valid wyvern]

^

[tidal valve]

make sense why my st elmo always crit

[quiet sparrow]

Should I use rigger for skill build or empress/hana-u

[tawdry flare]

Empress hanau is the way

[quiet sparrow]

what attributes should I focus on? except skill dmg ofc

[brisk barn]

skill haste

[quiet sparrow]

skill duration not important?

[brisk barn]

not if you have enough skill haste

[quiet sparrow]

kk thx

[brisk barn]

skill duration is kinda long enough anyway

skill either kills everything in the time or gets destroyed before it expires

[quiet sparrow]

got ya

thank you for explaining

[hexed steppe]

what skills are you building for?

[tawdry flare]

Skill haste

[tawdry flare]

Empress 3 pcs bonus is skill efficiency 1% skill efficiency = 1% skill DMG,hast ,status effect, repair skill , duration

[hexed steppe]

it all depends on skills anyways. turret/drone dont need haste really either so possibly crit for capacitor.
oxi can benefit duration
explosives would be skill damage/status effects

[quiet sparrow]

drone/turret

[gentle lichen]

A high end skill build is going to outperform rigger

[abstract raft]

For a crit smg PvP build is it better to go with e.g. grupo or fox knee better?

[sullen sun]

Is Rigger worth using over a traditional skill build with GC?

[onyx sage]

no

[vestal ibex]

What is with the rigger resurgence these last couple days?

[hazy steeple]

I bet it's a div2 youtuber.

[hollow pasture]

roguegold

sigh

sucks thats hes one of the most popular ones too so everyone now gonna make rigger builds

[tawdry flare]

As always divtubers

They don't make real meta builds though

[hollow pasture]

yellow striker is pretty meta wym

[tulip charm]

Why rigger tho

[tawdry flare]

I meant real Meta @flint wave was arguing my timing and he tasted real meta

[tawdry flare]

Here #ask-td2-community message

[hollow pasture]

😭 💀

[quiet sparrow]

Is Kingbreaker Striker Build good?

[junior surge]

Eh, the slow rpm of Kingbreaker isn't that great for Strikers tbh

A police M4 with Flatline will probably serve you better.

[mortal trail]

what about orobouros or dark winter with a striker build is that still good"?

[junior surge]

Ouroboros is the meta rn, it's one of the absolute strongest setups

[mortal trail]

whats the drop rate for it from incursion

[junior surge]

I think 1% from the bosses and 10% from the box, same as the raids.

[mortal trail]

o7 i salute you good sir

[oak comet]

Idk why i didn’t make a healer build sooner, most fun I’ve had ever

[vestal ibex]

You should check out the build guide in the spreadsheet if you wanna improve it too.

Could have 40% DTA, another 10% TWD/TSD, and a total of 35% more amp damage.

[mortal trail]

is the chatterbox good for a striker build

[oak comet]

I run it with a vector, until i get dark winter, but yah i enjoy the ammo refill and increased fire rate on reload near enemies

[slate wedge]

btw sledge isn't dta, it is an own amplifier

[sullen sun]

Worth building?

[hexed steppe]

personally probably not, but i see they are stacking skill health for the shield. but if you do, utilize one of the cores for red or blue since free st from tech. artificer would repair the shield as well...

i have something like this setup for similar. artificer hits the shield for 48% repair

[brisk barn]

Just built myself a headhunter build. How does one build up headhunter prior to one shot madness. Do I have to just shoot and pray I don’t miss scattering enemies

[inland holly]

should i even build a bluescreen build, cuz ive tried but i dont even know what to do with it

[urban latch]

I'm not even sure what this is trying to do

[hexed steppe]

motherly love, forge, 1pc empress all for the shield

[sullen sun]

He said if you hit your shots with the Liberty it keeps your shield at 100%

[brisk barn]

It’s a pistol shield build where you try to run around tanking everything with GC Vigilance

[cursive gull]

anyone have theoretical LMG builds for when they get buffed?

[inland holly]

im tryna make a bluescreen build but i dont think its any good icl

[cursive gull]

also is the disrupt immunity still 95.8%?

cause hunters still disrupt me when im exactly at 95.8%

[hexed steppe]

i run full 100% hazpro. handy for a lot more than disrupt

there is a countermeasure that lowers hazpro until its turned off tho

[cursive gull]

well i dont have EG with haz pro so im trying to use the watch to fill in the missing haz pro

maybe its countdown jank

[hexed steppe]

the biohazard shield (second one) messes it up

[cursive gull]

ill just see when CD ends

[hexed steppe]

you should be immune according to the sheet tho. but so close might as well go 100 😎

[hexed steppe]

oic, yeah i use the watch to hit my 100

[cursive gull]

yea even with all countermeasures disabled im getting disrupted, weird

just gonna chalk it up to division being the division

[hexed steppe]

yup, as you level the haz up make a note of when it stops disrupting

[cursive gull]

also i dont get disrupted with my EMP nade anymore

[hexed steppe]

maybe those hunters have a higher threshold then

[cursive gull]

guess ill keep levelling up

[hexed steppe]

yeah at 100 i definitely dont get hit unless that specific countermeasure is active

oh wow, youre setup different than i thought 😎

[cursive gull]

yea just tweaked it as i go

[hexed steppe]

nice

[cursive gull]

could swap a PFE for disrupt resist but im betting its a threshold error and i need to get to 96% for it to work

[hexed steppe]

probably, it must be very quick anyways

[cursive gull]

yea i leveled to 96% but still disrupts

somethings wrong here

is there a place where i can encounter an EMP jammer consistently?

[inland holly]

im tryna build a damage support build without ongoing directive, where should i even start

[junior surge]

Defintely get a red Setup. The rest is up to you, a possible build is 4pc true patriot, ceska chest with overwatch and red setup. Weapons are Scorpio and Stage left. Specialization is survivalist for the damage buff to status affected targets and the incendiary grenades.

You can run that all red, and you'll still have ok damage while giving big buffs

[gentle lichen]

Ongoing directive still outperforms it especially in countdown where you would be shooting many things. The entire team isn't going to focus 1 thing with you except for hunters

[junior surge]

They didn't specify countdown or any other content

In a raid for example when everyone is burning one boss, ongoing doesn't do that much because there won't be many kills, instead you want to put as many debuffs as possible on one target

[orchid cloud]

ongoing is definitely people's choice when it comes to buffing everyone's damage

[onyx sage]

FI is first choice before ongoing

[inland holly]

this acctually helps so much tho thank you, it was for raids aswell, i just needed a good support build to help get through them so i can get the eagle bearer and the other raid exotic.

[cursive gull]

im thinking actually maybe the hunter's disrupt is treated as pulse resistance rather than disrupt resist and maybe it has to be at 100%

[onyx sage]

no that's not it

[cursive gull]

dont really know how to explain it then

unless they like silent changed it

[unkempt dune]

What is cap on protection from elits?

[cursive gull]

people dont usually run past 61%

that includes the survivalist trait giving you 10%

but im running 49% with my build ideally

[tulip charm]

Just run a dps set and dont worry about supporting in raid. Let the experience player deal with the support stuff.

[random sigil]

hello, what's a good build to run for countdown?

[cursive gull]

yea 99% of the time unless its an incursion without a healer you can basically always stay DPS

[cursive gull]

Striker build is usually what people run, check the pinned comments for the datasheet with the builds

[unkempt dune]

I heard cap for protection from elits is 80% is this correct?

[cursive gull]

the game never mentions a cap but more what you are physically able to achieve with mods

[random sigil]

got it, i got one of those, do people usually keep it all red cores or throw in some blue? I've been running a strikers (not perfect but it functions). have had some survivability issues

[cursive gull]

i would recommend heartbreaker or maybe playing more passive and in cover with your current setup

blue cores are really only heavily invested in for tanks and PvP builds cause of how scaling works

[random sigil]

got it thank you!

[cursive gull]

id usually just stay all red and learning the ropes

[random sigil]

cool, thanks! also, would you say hearbreakers is a bit better for survivability over strikers for solo heroic play? Like control points and such

[cursive gull]

heartbreaker gives you extra armor per stack but its very costly to make a DPS setup cause it defaults to blue cores

also you would have to run technician for the laser that pulses enemies and synergizes with heartbreaker

[random sigil]

mmmm, okay, ive been trying out a standard red dps build with AR's but swapped out the backpack for memento and using spotter and flatline.

maybe heartbreaker could help there

i tried adding belstone and some other armor regen, but the more i added the more damage i lacked

[cursive gull]

you will have to find pieces with red attributes and respec all your armor to red cores

[random sigil]

got it, thank you!

[cursive gull]

armor regen scales with total armor so its not worth it unless you do full tank

[random sigil]

been reading several of the guides and it seems to emphasize memento is only for solo play correct? as its much harder to build stack adn not optimal in group play?

[cursive gull]

yea cause you need to be the one to get the kill and be in close proximity to the trophies

so if teammates are stealing kills or you're far away its useless

[random sigil]

got it, i'll prob just only use heartbreaker for solo, and strikers/standard red for group stuff

[slate wedge]

can one of you guys give me a pvp hazpro mortar build please

[cursive gull]

yea if you want that should be fine

[cursive gull]

also its good to use an ACS-12 with the laser and flatline to build stacks of heartbreaker

heartbreaker tends to build stacks more slowly so its more useful to run the ACS

[random sigil]

ah, okay got it. I'll have to farm a good one

ive been using carbine 7 and police m4

[cursive gull]

also the chest is necessary cause it doubles the stacks you can build from 50 to 100

[cursive gull]

police M4 and the kingbreaker are the 2 options for HB since theyre the only ARs that can use the laser

[random sigil]

ah okay, M4 it is, i think i have a kingbreaker in my stash, but id have to check

[cursive gull]

you would run kingbreaker for the flatline damage but its personal preference if you like the M4 better

cause you are basically always pulsing the enemy with the laser

[random sigil]

is pairing HB with Obliterate/strained viable for solo play? or is HB just not worth it without the chest?

[stiff saddle]

Hmm why is it that I can't max the weapon damage for this?

[tawdry flare]

Nope HB chest is better for most part

[tawdry flare]

You are missing materials

[stiff saddle]

Oh so it scales with how much materials needed to max it

[tawdry flare]

The material missing are shown below in red

[stiff saddle]

Oohh I see I see, guess am farming the True sons for the mats then since I don't have the blueprint for it LOL

[sullen sun]

How can I improve this?

[hushed gorge]

guys,did those 2 projects, Now Do I have to wait for a week?

[vestal atlas]

you need to wait for the tuesday reset, those parts will drop only one the first clear of the week for that character, 4 from the 4 bosses and last one from the final crate

[hushed gorge]

got it

[vestal atlas]

there is a hard cap at 80%, there are easy setups where you can go over and it will cap at that, it is not stated outright anywhere like with chc annoyingly

[vestal ibex]

Yeah but that distinction isn't needed most of the time. Scorpio and opportunistic work in the same way where they make a target take more damage via a debuff but I never see people worry about that distinction.

[radiant gull]

Is 103k damage on a 1035 rof gun with 75% dmg all weapons, 25% dmg for smg plus 50% crit chance and around 70% crit dmg on a 4pc striker set a good beginner dps build or does it still need improving

I'm shd level 12

[bright raptor]

50 crit chance is decent, crit damage is okay but will improve as you get better rolled gear pieces and gear mods

[flint wave]

how much weapon handling

[slate nest]

108%

[flint wave]

I have a feeling this is an all gearset ninjabike build

[hushed gorge]

i would like to ask a thing
3x Striker
1 Ninjabike Bag
2x Hunters Fury

how ll it go ?
SMG-Shotgun will be the primary weapon obviously

[flint wave]

damn I was for sure thinking there was 2 piece hotshot

I bet there's no crit

[flint wave]

trash

[hushed gorge]

thank you for letting me know

[flint wave]

commit to strikers or commit to hunters

no hybrids are possible here

[tawdry flare]

2pcs petrov 🤮 1 ceska and contractor or 1 contractor/coyote is better

[patent fossil]

Badly

[radiant gull]

Is there a cap for crit dmg?

[patent fossil]

No, but you get diminishing returns the higher it goes, most crit builds won't go above about 180%

[tawdry flare]

If you are making a meme than do it properly use ninjabike bag

[uneven cove]

can you 1 tap turrets in incursion with dodge city?

[stark solstice]

Ouroboros,I know what the talent is, but some one using it's talent on a consistent level, there are other smg have a similar rate of fire, why not use other smg with the same fire rate at least that will have some usable talent, suggestion

[patent fossil]

'there are other smg have a similar rate of fire' - there really aren't though, Ouro is like 24% faster rof (which is basically the same as a 24% damage amp), plus a bigger mag and faster reload

[hazy steeple]

1200 regular Vector vs 1485 on the Ouro is the closest they get.
Ouro with an actually good Talent would be very broken indeed.

[stark solstice]

But how to use it's talent on regular basis,

[urban latch]

yes

[hazy steeple]

Pretend it doesn't have one, basically.

It's there to put out incredible amounts of DPS, not proc a Talent.

[uneven cove]

very gud

[stark solstice]

What about Eagle bearer, don't see many people using it, most people use st Elmo's, it's talent Eagal bearer talent to increase the accuracy but it's accuracy is low and even 30% increase at later stage is equal to st Elmo base accuracy. Is this any good indeed, is there any optimal way to use it

[uneven cove]

simple fact that its locked behind a raid and most people dont have it

[urban latch]

EB is about to be buffed in the next update, but atm it's a bit underwhelming

[stark solstice]

Maybe they should give an option to recalibrate exotic weapons talent among exotic weapons, it will start some interesting innovative build

[flint wave]

probably become meta in pvp again

[stark solstice]

Any suggested build with it in PvP and how to use it in optimal way

[flint wave]

the great fight between st elmos eagle burger and ouro

[flint wave]

idk

[stark solstice]

Can someone suggest my highest critical damage build so none of my build go beyond 150% critical hit

Damaged

[round zinc]

that means your stats are bad

either that or you use a gear set which means low chd is to be expected

[stark solstice]

You might be right so help with some suggestion

[round zinc]

im not too sure about pvp so i cant comment on it but for pve you can either use negotiator or high end red build

[stark solstice]

Any suggestion as I tried both and none of it taking me above 150

[hollow pasture]

I have 192% chd on my negotiators dilemma build

Oh I didn't read it's for pvp

Nvm what I said then

[blissful inlet]

Any1 have a good build for pvp ?

[patent fossil]

there's a pvp basics guide in the spreadsheet linked in the pins in this channel

[rich lotus]

Any advice on what you should do to get exotics gears?

Doing Pve/Pvp?

[patent fossil]

the majority of exotics can drop from any loot source, countdown is often preferred due to the sheer number of drops and the fact that you can spend the coins you earn on exotic caches

a few exotics require you to complete a project before they'll start dropping elsewhere

and 5 are locked behind either raids or dz or incursion or legendary difficulty

[wise swallow]

Striker is stupid easy to put together. 4 pc striker using striker backpack. Ceska and fenris doesn’t matter where the ceska or fenris is just as long as you have it (if using AR). All CHC till your at 60, then all CHD.

4-6 blues entirely up to you

Easiest would be all the striker pieces being blues

A lot easier to get striker pieces with good CHD roles and recal to a blue

Chest talent can be unbreakable or obliterate entirely up to you

Unbreakable is better for survivability but losses out in DPS. Oblit loses out in survivability but is better for DPS

[wise swallow]

^

Easy to use, easy to put together, works solo

Use a shotgun like rock and roll to get stacks

I like using eagle bearer + rock and roll

Striker is pretty straight forward use wise. Effectively Stacking it will take some practice but

Shoot people. They die

Then you die to fire and rage quit DZ

[radiant gull]

What's the best way to create a build? Find a item with say 1 perfect roll and a good roll in two categories you want and recalibrate another perfect roll into it?

Or find an item with 3 categories you want and upgrade it through expertise?

[fickle light]

If you are new, just finding items with the right stuff is best, and upgrading as you go. Having alright stats you want is better than max stats that do nothing for your build.

[cursive gull]

i got a famas with a godroll and im wondering should i do optimist or fast hands as the talent? i already have a strained famas so i wanted a different second one

[hazy steeple]

Fast Hands or Strained is the winner for DPS, so I guess Fast Hands for now.
might change in the upcoming balance changes, but yeah.

[novel girder]

Anyone have the btsu gloves that they are able to trade?

[gentle lichen]

Can't trade in this game

[novel girder]

u can share items

[gentle lichen]

Gonna have the player be in your session when they get the btsu for them to share it

[novel girder]

okay thanks im still kinda new im still learining lol

[gentle lichen]

All good. There are many methods to obtain exotics

Namely countdown coins where you can trade them for exotic caches

[novel girder]

whast countdown?

[cursive gull]

its an 8 player mode where you complete objectives, also when you do it make sure to focus loot on gloves as theres a chance it will be an exotic

hold "H" on the countdown dot to change your target loot

I would personally matchmake challenging difficulty to begin with

[novel girder]

okay thanks bro

u wanna join?

[cursive gull]

uh sure

[novel girder]

my ubi is StillVelo

[slate wedge]

how can i set my dialogue language to another language

[tawdry flare]

Have to change in the menu from language also have to add it from the ubisoft menu

First to download language packs

[slate wedge]

working on steam?

[tawdry flare]

From ubisoft menu

I have mine set to Japanese

That yamate from hostage is quite the fun

[onyx sage]

read the spreadsheet pinned in this channel

[hushed gorge]

why 1pcs striker if u want to run high end tier gear build?

[onyx sage]

they're just learning

[hushed gorge]

so does other high end tier gloves

[onyx sage]

basically you need gear sets or brand sets that synergize together

attributes are only a small part of your build

[slate wedge]

i wanna do that too but i only own the game on steam

[onyx sage]

not at this stage. focus on the build called Striker or Striker's Battlegear

[hushed gorge]

i use this currently on PvE rn

or 164 CHD w 60 CHC

lol,sure

i am also a new player

mine works actually very well

[tawdry flare]

Try from ubi menu

[junior surge]

Not really that's a great build. You can change it to suit your own playstyle of course, add coyotes, add or remove some blue cores, maybe a memento...

[slate wedge]

where can i find that

when reinstalling the game?

[tawdry flare]

Nope

Let me

[onyx sage]

it does have high stat requirements to function but more importantly you need a starter build to farm others with first, and striker is that

also hotshot requires consistent headshots, and while you can cheese headshots with determined i never recommend new players to use it if they want to learn headshots

[tawdry flare]

@slate wedge

It will download language file yhan you can change from menu

[slate wedge]

only see this

[onyx sage]

you can look into it after you've made strikers. learning headshots and consistently hitting them in difficult content still remain satisfying to me to this day, so if you practice now you'll never look back

[tawdry flare]

Than have to go to steam on the game page and than options menu should have it

[slate wedge]

yeah i think i found it

sadly i deinstalled already so i have to wait an hour to test

lmao

[tawdry flare]

Lmfao

[random sigil]

is there a good build for using rifles? particularly solo without getting one shot?

[hexed steppe]

nego or high end good for regular rifles

m1a varients are best for rifle

[random sigil]

I started building a good high end build, but isnt vigilance and glass cannon recommended? I'm not a huge fan since i'm not skilled enough to either not die or maintain the buff... other talent recommendations for the chest and backpack?

[hexed steppe]

contractors named gloves, fox's named knee. might be a named providence bag in highend but gift not really required

yeah glas would be better for rifle itself if maining

if you run tech class and your rifle can take the laset you could also run spotter/flatline combo with linked laser pulsing targets

spotter can also amp skill damage if turrets or somehing used

i do a lot with elmo then rifle for ranged stuff so oblit still kinda ok being prestacked a majority of time i might use rifle

[random sigil]

oh cool okay, the spotter and flatline sounds cool. boomerang is usually the weapon talent used right?

[wary vortex]

worth it

[hexed steppe]

yeah, mostly for me. i would probably still be using a flatline/spotter combo if not for elmo not benefiting

[hexed steppe]

not to optimize

rerol for damage to targets out of cover at the crafting bench

or use as is till a dttooc elmo drops

[random sigil]

wouldn't it?

[wary vortex]

but im on crit build + obliteration

full red crit build

[hexed steppe]

doesnt matter.

dttooc is best in slot

[bright raptor]

The DTOOC benefit is much stronger than a maxed crit damage stat

[wary vortex]

aight

[bright raptor]

since with crit damage you do eventually get diminishing returns, while DTOOC is a separate amplifier for damage

[hexed steppe]

you max the crit chance with weapon mods* >brand >rolls in that order

[wary vortex]

im not planning on boosting crit chance on weapons

st almo got base 20% , SHD got 10%

i gonna do crit chance on my 4 pc striker set

then it will have 60%

[hexed steppe]

elmo ceska watch maxed has you at 40% chc. if using striker 2 sub rolls on high ends/coyote will have you at 52. so 1 mod is all thats needed if not counting on coyote mid buff

[wary vortex]

the rest i gonna do all crit dmg

or 60% crit dmg + 40% headshot dmg

what u say?

[hexed steppe]

elmo 20% chc, ceska 10% chc, secondary rolls 12% chc is what i implied

[slate wedge]

and everything else possible to crit damage

[random sigil]

for full red high end rifle build spoter/flatline, do you ever run into survivability problems? or do you run shield/revive hive? also, what other talent can I use in the backpack beside vigilance?

[hexed steppe]

ceska on your striker setup allows about 9% more chd if using coyote and hitting 52% chc

[wary vortex]

ok guys, spotter or obliterate

im on striker set, so i cant do backpack

the only slot left is chestpiece

[hexed steppe]

survivability comes with killing fast. you can sub in memento for a little less damage but a lot more on the survivability side. also gives 2 shield tiers

[hexed steppe]

oblit

[wary vortex]

true, and in heroic + activities , u have shield/tanks drawing fire

all red build is basically ambush+flanking

like kill within 10seconds before enemies turning to u

[hexed steppe]

oblit better if already stacking with striker

[wary vortex]

ok

[random sigil]

oh true, i was hoping it would be a more comfy way to solo with rifles, but it really doesnt sound like it lol

[wary vortex]

striker chestpiece doesnt have any intrinsic special talents right? just like the backpack

[hexed steppe]

doubles stacks available

its good if you have really tanke targets like incursion/countdown

[wary vortex]

referring to my striker backpack?

[hexed steppe]

no striker chest

chest allows 200 stacks instead of 100

[wary vortex]

damnnnnn

[hexed steppe]

but its hard to maintain 200 unless the health poole allow for a lot of stacking

if you only see it going half full when target dies then oblit stronger since it stacks simultaniously with the striker stacks

[wary vortex]

original 1-50 : 1sec depletes 1
original 51-100 : 1 sec depletes 2

if my limit is 200, is it 1-100 depletes 1 or still 1-50 depletes 1

[wary vortex]

its quite hard to decide man, because heroic/lengendary are bunch of adds that can take in 100+ shots

u only need one to reach 200 stacks

[hexed steppe]

101-200 3 stacks lost per second iirc

[wary vortex]

bruuuuuuh thats making my life harder

[hexed steppe]

XD

[junior surge]

Striker chest is overrated imo

[wary vortex]

i gonna use golden chestpiece with obliterate

[junior surge]

Until you have over 100 stacks, it's like having no chest talent at all

[wary vortex]

i was thinking it will be like
1-100 depletes 1 stack
101-200 depletes 2 stacks

bruh

3stacks is just trolling

[junior surge]

Ye, you kill a couple adds, run to the next spawn and already lost like 30 stacks again

[wary vortex]

but it might be good with ouroboros

1500RPM

[junior surge]

It's ok when you're continously hammering something like in the incursion. In there everything is such a bullet sponge that it's worth running

[wary vortex]

wait until i fill in all the slots

[wary vortex]

complicated feelings man

im outta exotic components now

[fallen comet]

Why didn't you spend any points?

[hushed gorge]

Better look for a new St Elmos then

[wary vortex]

wanna spend them to fill in 50 at once? lol

maybe 200-250

[hazy steeple]

Enjoy the levelling process, you only get to do it once unless you make an entirely new Account.
after that, every alt at Lvl 1k can just max it out and then wait for the counter to tick down.

[tawdry flare]

You forgot HC

[hazy steeple]

I didn't forget. As soon as it becomes an actual finished mode, I'll mention it.

So never!

[hushed gorge]

try getting Damage to Target out of cover

[hollow pasture]

Gottem

[mossy osprey]

aim looking for named items and want to see the talents if someone can post them here that would help!

Good Times LMG, Hunter-Killer Vest, Manic AR, Orbit Pistol

[hollow pasture]

Good times - Perfect Fast Hands
Critical hits add a stack of 8% reload speed bonus. Max stack is 40. Hunter Killer - Perfect intimidate
While you have bonus armour, gain 1 stack each second up to a max of 8. Each stack increases total weapon damage by 5% to enemies within 10m.
All stacks are lost when you have no bonus armor
Manic - Perfectly Overflowing
Every 2 reloads from empty increases your base magazine capacity by 100%.
Orbit - Perfect Finisher
Swapping from this weapon within 10 seconds of killing an enemy grants 35% critical hit chance and 40% critical hit damage for 15 seconds.

[hushed gorge]

can u guys suggest me some High End Tier ARs?

Honey Badger with Strained is not bad
was able to git 1.1M with it

[hexed steppe]

not helping yourself by waiting to utilize category points, especially since your using up all scavenging...
crit chance, total armor, skill haste, reload speed would make a difference and could all be bumped up quite a bit at this point

[marsh nebula]

carbine 7, police m4

[gentle lichen]

Honey badger is a straight nerf compared to C7

No muzzle mod

[hushed gorge]

yes
1 less modification

[opal egret]

Sooo.... is elmos sucker banshees really all people play in pvp in this game?

[hushed gorge]

but with Strained,it is still good

[gentle lichen]

Very

Add festive into the mix and you got the casual dz police build

[hushed gorge]

DZ Police ☠️

bruh

nice metaphor

so
Carbine 7 with what talent?
Strained?

or optimist?

[gentle lichen]

Strained

[hushed gorge]

ok

[gentle lichen]

Unless blue cores

[hushed gorge]

i always use 2 blue cores

[gentle lichen]

Optimist when excessive blues (usually pvp)

[hushed gorge]

cant stay alive w 6 red cores for some reasons
skill issue

[tawdry flare]

Mhh go 2pcs heartbreaker and 1 pcs striker

[hushed gorge]

oh
thats y many Famas PvPers users use optimist

[gentle lichen]

Was thinking 2 pc umbra 2 pc ongoing. But that's too much of a sacrifice ig

[gentle lichen]

Weapon damage has more value the more blues you have

That's why picaro's fenris sokolov expertise are so important

[hushed gorge]

played too much with St Elmos
have to try some High Tier ARs

[opal egret]

sooo... i either play the same thing to not get pummeled by rogues, or play hazpro?

[glossy tiger]

wtf is that rpm on ouro, that looks fun af. Hopefully rng blesses me

[green pumice]

it will get nerfed.

[flint wave]

How do you know

[round zinc]

slightly higher base damage sorta makes up for it

also 5 rounds more🤓

[hollow pasture]

It'll get nerfed

Source :

[round zinc]

:copium:

[hollow pasture]

If it ever gets nerfed is when they send it to the dz

"Here have fun grinding for this small ass chance oh and now it's nerfed looooool get owned"

[flint wave]

Not even op anyways🥱

[hollow pasture]

If only it had a talent that was worth being called a talent

[round zinc]

the drop rate is like 1% so i doubt it

i only see a ravenous and an EB buff

if they're dead set on giving it 1500rpm then they should nerf the base damage

instead of dying on the hill where they think they can only nerf its rpm

[flint wave]

They can nerf the base weapon if it meant it getting a real talent

[round zinc]

the talent would actually be good if they put it on something that shoots slow

[flint wave]

Fr

[round zinc]

and allow us to proc the talent thru self applying

imagine a lwm4 with 50 blind rounds

[hollow pasture]

It does

[brisk barn]

It would be a good talent if there were confusion rounds

[round zinc]

didn't they say they fixed it before this season?

[hollow pasture]

Let ur Shield break and try it with oreo 😂

[round zinc]

dang

[flint wave]

Break your shield and get ur wish

[round zinc]

it got the determined treatment i guess

[flint wave]

Or play with special ammo on hyena mission

[hollow pasture]

Wonder if cleaners napalm also triggers if you get caught in it

[slate nest]

source: trust me bro

[green pumice]

Not even op he says 💀

[opal egret]

I mean, it’s not

[green pumice]

full armor ouro beats full red elmo, its not?

you all high on mad copium.

[tawdry flare]

Yeah 😂

[opal egret]

Since when should a full red build beat full armor ALLWAYS?

Going only red isn’t simply a recipe to always win bro

[green pumice]

nah you are trolling 100%

[tawdry flare]

Skill issue

[green pumice]

im talking about dps.

[flint wave]

It's really not op once you look past the spreadsheet numbers

[hollow pasture]

This server can be no fun sometimes
(can't wait for my message to get deleted)

[hushed gorge]

mine got deleted

[hollow pasture]

Are we making a build for golden bullet lol

[shy willow]

Use bullet king and never reload

[tawdry flare]

Use swap chain 0.1s reload

[random sigil]

standard red dps rifle build not really recommended for countdown?

[tulip charm]

If you dont have anything else its fine but nowadays people run striker for basically everything

[random sigil]

I did make a strikers build, but I just like rifles, buti dont like the fact that the only build for it squishier than a mashmellow

[pastel sluice]

is there a guide anywhere on the preferred modifiers on weapons and gear?

[hazy steeple]

Weapon mods are pretty simple: biggest mag size, followed by crit chance (CHC) if its a crit build.
on gear you tend to use crit damage (CHD) to go along with it.

Other builds vary.

[tulip charm]

It should be fine then

[pastel sluice]

Sorry, i dont mean weapon mods - i mean the skills or attributes? im not sure of the right name. Like on an AR - what are the 3 best rolls?

AR damage + crit damage + crit chance, for example?

[tulip charm]

Damage to Out of Cover

if lmg then you have the crit chance, rate of fire, and damage to armor (I go by that order imo)

[hazy steeple]

On guns, the first 2 "attributes" are locked and can not be changed what they are.
e.g. on AR's it's always weapon damage then health damage, the 3rd one is yeah what Fun' said, dtooc. (dtooc is also best for pretty much every other category)
for LMG's it's generally accepted to be fire-rate, as that is their biggest weakness.

[pastel sluice]

and on gear pieces - is it random?

[round zinc]

Is it tho,cuz its definitely the suppression that does it

[hazy steeple]

....yes it is. Obviously.

You can't do anything about suppression, you can about the fire-rate. I didn't think I needed to spell that out but here we go.

[onyx sage]

on gear pieces, secondary attributes are random, but they are weighted to have the same color as the core attribute, and core attribute is always fixed

[hollow pasture]

Cough, is this the setup for a cc ep build or is a eletrique BP with normal creeping death better

[onyx sage]

swap vile for electrique

[hollow pasture]

So vile isn't needed for cc ep

[onyx sage]

if that's for burn then vile + eclipse backpack

there are 2 variants: burn and pure cc

[hollow pasture]

Nah I have my burn setup already

[onyx sage]

pure cc is electrique + courier

[hollow pasture]

Just for cc rn

Okay thanks

Spec to survivalist?

[onyx sage]

yeah

firewall for burn

[tawdry flare]

You can use Golan if you have unicorn

[placid cove]

I just unlocked specializations and was wondering which one would be best for gearing up early on. demo with skill gear?

[onyx sage]

try to unlock gunner

but sharpshooter, demo and survivalist are the ones you have straight out the gate

[hollow pasture]

Not on mask slot tho

[hexed steppe]

perf creeping > regular creeping
swap over to survivalist to give team 10% damage to status
should look into opportunistic as an alternative as well for another team buff
and sledge hammer 😅

[hollow pasture]

I'll save opportunistic for my FI HEALER

[hexed steppe]

its dope when running scorpio cc, js

[hollow pasture]

Honestly creeping death is insanely fun to use

[hexed steppe]

if stuff is dying anyways and spreading foam, creeping can be overkill

[hollow pasture]

Idk why I didn't do this before

[hexed steppe]

its solid no doubt

[hollow pasture]

It's for legendary with randoms so nothing is overkill

[hexed steppe]

no emp sticky?

[hollow pasture]

It's there

Oh nvm I had burn on

Yea it's on already
Switched to it mid legendary

When I realised

[hexed steppe]

binoculars uses acostas for the oc in legendary

but yeah 10m foam more beneficial in legendary

[hollow pasture]

That might be more of a team setup acostas

When you don't need creeping
But I'll try it

Never use acostas anyway

[hexed steppe]

same

[hollow pasture]

Didn't even know it also gave you status effects that's how little I've used it

[hexed steppe]

should also sledge a pistol since youll have the fire nades and its an easy debuff for the team

[iron flower]

hi, is the dps calc linked in this post still up to date and correct?

[magic robin]

Making an LMG/Shotgun tank dps build. What gear other than lengmo should I use?

[onyx sage]

yes

[iron flower]

thanks 🙂

[onyx sage]

heartbreaker

[magic pilot]

what dien said. also some players use golan and electrique for niche situations where you dont need extra spread from perfect

[magic robin]

Got bullet king from a cache. Rn I’m running 3 lengmo and 3 grupo sombra sa until I get better set,vest has headhunter. Seem good?(I just finished WONY)

[onyx sage]

not really. you should look at the spreadsheet pinned in this channel for proper builds, look at striker and heartbreaker specifically

lengmo is honestly a terrible brand

[magic robin]

Only rly using it for LMG dmg rn tbh

Where could I get striker and heartbreaker stuff?

[onyx sage]

mostly countdown

[magic robin]

I kinda j came back after a year and a half so

Where is that lol

[cursive gull]

would it be better to run kingbreaker or police M4 for a heartbreaker build?

[onyx sage]

kingbreaker has higher theoretical damage but less versatility because of its dumb accuracy

[novel cosmos]

Anything decent for a DZ PvP build? Squad and I got absolutely destroyed by 2 groups last night mostly running bulwark shields with Regulus pistol, don't have NinjaBike Messenger Bag atm, running St. Elmo's with The Grudge

[wise swallow]

2 striker, 1 cavalier with tardi, 1 fire build or healer (healer is kinda meh imo)

shields are basically just long games, keep running and use your own cavalier to block most shots

dont try to face trade a reg shield build

youll lose 90% of the time

[wise swallow]

this is team composition

all striker players should run oblit

striker build is all crit, 4 pc with backpack

[native goblet]

Hi, may i know if memento and 4 piece hunter fury, gunner spec are fine enough for AoK build 🙂

[wise swallow]

cav is pretty straight forward, 4 pc cav with backpack, tardi and whatever on the last slot

[novel cosmos]

Does this work for a solo/duo? I usually run alone every now and then but now I've got a group and we head in there sometimes but I still like to go alone

[wise swallow]

solo id just run striker

if someone starts using fire switch to full personal haz pro + headshot DMG

maybe SMG but i hate using SMG's solo

[junior surge]

For pve, absolutely, pair that with a ceska or grupo chest, with intimidate or obliterate and it's a great build. Personally I don't even use gunner, but firewall instead as I am fine with the 20% aok from HF and firewall gives me the striker shield, which is amazing for cqb gameplay.

Gunner gives banshee pulse though, which can also be a good option.

[native goblet]

thanks for the helpful info!

[harsh kelp]

hy, can someone point me a scorp+shield (fw or any spec is ok) build?

[junior surge]

For pve?

Up to heroic, Hunter's Fury with memento and scorpio does great in solo play.

[flint wave]

the door camping build

[junior surge]

This is how I run it and it works well for me. You can even run challenging countdown very well with it, I just change the backpack to a matador in countdown as you don't get enough kills for the memento. Ad rush also helps with the hunters because it stacks your intimidate as soon as you get close.

It camps the hell out of door spawns

[flint wave]

Have you tested badger tuff piece vs grupo?

[junior surge]

No, but I use the smg quite a bit tbf

[flint wave]

k

[junior surge]

So the choice was between ceska and grupo pretty much

[harsh kelp]

k i just farmed hunters on heroic cd yesterday got like 15pieces.. will make smthg. whats the backpack? i used zeroF for extra def lately, or similar

checkin Ad rush - havent met that yet (n optical..)

[junior surge]

The backpack is memento, great for solo or small groups where you are the main damage. Alternative is a backpack of your choice with adrenaline rush, or bloodsucker.

[harsh kelp]

sry i meant armor

i have memento

oh and adrenaline rush okok

grupo w intimidate right?

[junior surge]

Yeah, that's what I run. Ceska is great too

[harsh kelp]

kk worst case i play w cores a bit (to go higher w party). checking / tenx 🙂

attribs mostly crit crit?

[junior surge]

Attributes all crit yea. Play around with how many blue cores you like. Everything from all red to like 4 blue is perfectly viable, just depends on personal preference and what suits your playstyle.

Same as always, try to get at least 50%chc and then spec into chd

[harsh kelp]

memento gives everything when droppd right? like if i have 4blue, it gives 40%armor+red+yellow stuff same time

wasnt sure of the mechanic

[junior surge]

Yea, it buffs weapon damage, gives bonus armor and skill efficiency. The skill efficiency helps keep up your shield too

[flint wave]

pvp?

[sullen sun]

It was rocking us

[hollow pasture]

I'll keep that in mind but that's probably rarely gonna happen with randoms

[shadow gorge]

hi all. Is better the obliterated or invicible for pvp in dark zone? with high end or striker?

[shadow gorge]

and also with headshot with ar?

[gentle lichen]

What servers do you play on?

[sullen sun]

We were on US East

[gentle lichen]

Figures. They all like to "experiment" with builds

[sullen sun]

Mine

Ppl don’t understand that stacking HS dmg ain’t gonna get you anywhere

And you cut your bag talent off

Smh silly boy

That’s my yahaal build

With the Nemi

[gentle lichen]

My trusty always

321% on mantis

[shadow gorge]

i have only 41k on pvp damage

but i see the average is 50k

of course with ar

possible with sniper is so high?

[gentle lichen]

Yeah ofc sniper base damage is higher than ar

[shadow gorge]

the sniper i have a build on it and have 70k not 300k

is a cheat?

[gentle lichen]

Yours must be skewed

Show it

[shadow gorge]

one moment

ah no wait i have switched but show 270k in pvp not 300

because the primary is a ar and i changed it

but with ar what is the best?

i mean the high end or striker build?

[sullen sun]

Would I be better going with Araldi with this? 3pc

Or Providence?

[patent fossil]

Airaldi I'd guess, hsd will be way more diminished on that build then weapon damage

[sullen sun]

So don’t worry about chc and chd?

[shadow gorge]

i see one with normal rifle one shot kill me is legit?

not a ar or sniper

[sullen sun]

Huh?

[patent fossil]

Oh, I was thinking in terms of 1pc prov. If you already 1-shot players with nemmy then there's no reason to go with more mmr damage

I'm really not a pvp person though

[sullen sun]

No I was two shotting before with one piece ceska and one pc grupo..

[shadow gorge]

have a normal rifle high end but not a sniper

[sullen sun]

In PvP??

[shadow gorge]

in dark zone yes

[sullen sun]

What Rifle?

[shadow gorge]

but other players can kill it

[sullen sun]

Kill what?

[shadow gorge]

is similar to m1

not remember but with one shot

[sullen sun]

I’m so lost

Lol

[shadow gorge]

well other player can kill it and on me kill with one shot

is so hard to understand? 😄

maybe all cheat idk

in any cases is possible one shot with m1?

[cedar tapir]

i'm also lost

[shadow gorge]

2 lost not is enough 😄

is hard to understand that can kill me with one shot but other players can kill him with one shot too?

xD

[gentle lichen]

Is everybody there running glass cannon?

[shadow gorge]

maybe is the ability of headshot?

the perfect one

well i wait other players who understand well 🙂

thx too 🙂 good day

[cedar tapir]

😕

[solid dagger]

I'm running perfect glass cannon on my Striker build, loving to get 1 shot in every mistake I make tho lol

[sullen sun]

On sniper builds?

[urban latch]

There's no point going with glass cannon and armor cores, just pick one or the other

[flint wave]

good luck getting red yaahl unicorns

[sullen sun]

I can’t change the blues, I’ve changed everything to red I can

[solid dagger]

Then farm with red ones lol

[flint wave]

I cant even get yaahl to drop

[sullen sun]

Huh?

[shy willow]

Dz exclusives are pain

[sullen sun]

Yep

[flint wave]

I got a few matadors in east dz cuz it was walker targeted loot but they were wrong rolled

Maybe I should've killed some extractors

[hazy steeple]

It's always worth keeping an eye out at the Countdown Vendor, which is capable of having DZ named items.

there's a Pinprick MMR in there right now actually.

[flint wave]

I donated that to expertise

[sullen sun]

Trash gun in PvP

[flint wave]

looks like trash gun in general

determined killed everything

[shy willow]

The talent is pointless

[sullen sun]

Yep, and Ranger

[shy willow]

Determined white death is funny

[hollow pasture]

I refuse to use determined

[sullen sun]

Keep refusing lol

[hollow pasture]

I will

Mantis my beloved anyways

And it's getting buffed too next season we are so Barack

[sullen sun]

Yuck

[flint wave]

I wish I could take the scope off of o carol

[sullen sun]

Guess what

So are all the Marksman Rifles

[hollow pasture]

If this is for pvp I don't play it so it doesn't affect me

[sullen sun]

Ah

[shy willow]

Can't wait for buffed EB

[gentle lichen]

Mantis is absolutely goated in pvp

What are y'all talking about

[sullen sun]

Regardless White Death with Determined for Legendaries is 🤌

[gentle lichen]

8 rounds. No charge. 3m per shot? Yessir

[sullen sun]

Buffed EB?

[hollow pasture]

Yea

[shy willow]

Faster fire rate and dttooc

[sullen sun]

Wb CTAR and F2000?

Scar? P4?

[hollow pasture]

P4 is the EB so yea also gets a buff

Same with the f2000
Think CTAR also gets a buff

[flint wave]

60 mag high end ars are gonna be cool

[hollow pasture]

Can the SIG get a buff too
Since future perfection is getting buffed

[gentle lichen]

F2000 getting mag size and rpm

Gonna make it better than famas

[flint wave]

Famas is gonna be old news by the end of the updates

[hollow pasture]

(I am tired of using it I dont mind a shake up)

[sullen sun]

Same

[shy willow]

I jumped to Elmo's when that came out

[gentle lichen]

I'm still keeping my 2 20 expertised famases tho

[hollow pasture]

Well Elmos is more fun to use tbh imo

[flint wave]

Doesn't get 19 second duration tho

[sullen sun]

Mk 17?

[hollow pasture]

I wouldn't mind that if they buffed the SIG

[hollow pasture]

Maybe I think
You can find the patch notes
(OR wait till phase 2 pts to see if anything else changed)

Not that far away

[shy willow]

Rifles get across the board buffs

Same with lmgs

[flint wave]

lmgs are gonna be good

[hollow pasture]

If only they buffed the rifles stability

[shy willow]

Iron lung getting buffed lol

[flint wave]

Should've just given its 10% crit chance mod back

[sullen sun]

Majorly

[hollow pasture]

Bullet King gonna finally be somewhat good
Dttooc and 20 %buff

[flint wave]

Gonna make bullet king with mag size

[shy willow]

Nah cuz I cannot physically imagine a day where people unironically use bullet king

And claim it does good damage

[hollow pasture]

I mean

It'll be goodish

[flint wave]

The only bad thing about bullet king now is gonna be its mods

[hollow pasture]

I'm more of a bluescreen enjoyer

[shy willow]

I swear blue screen is broken atm talent wise

[flint wave]

bluescreen also has bad mods

[sullen sun]

I like the dare..just wish it would get the laser attachment

[hollow pasture]

I quite like it's talent Tbh idk

[shy willow]

Broken as in non functional

[hollow pasture]

Wym non functional

Last I used it the talent worked fine

[shy willow]

Its allergic to doing the disrupt thing for me

[hollow pasture]

Isn't there a certain number of stacks it has to be in for it to be the disrupt effect

[shy willow]

Full I think

Still doesn't work for me at full stacks tho

[hollow pasture]

Hmmmm
Lemme try it

Did it for me in the range

[shy willow]

Damn

[sullen sun]

We need another exotic Sniper

[shy willow]

Gimme a Barrett M82

[hollow pasture]

Exotic sniper and knees are the ones left out for the longest

Last exotic knees were sawyers

[flint wave]

where exotic sawed off

[shy willow]

Cassidy was a funny gun

Especially with lone star

[warm arch]

whats a good attribute for ouro

[shy willow]

Dttooc

[warm arch]

alr ty

[quiet sparrow]

For negotiators dilemma should I use st elemo or assault riffle with laster pointer attachment from gunner for easy pulse?

[glossy scarab]

kinda personal preference. i use gunner but thats cuz i love the armor on kill and regenerating ammo

[flint wave]

St elmos

also pulse pointer is on technician

[patent fossil]

pulse is only worth it if you're using flatline and maybe spotter

[glossy scarab]

if you use spotter, you can get more damage out of regular spotter with the right brand than you can out of perfect spotter

i have this and never use it

[tawdry flare]

Wish it was 25% instead of 20%

[round zinc]

it would just be better glass cannon tho so i can see why

[bright raptor]

it's also sufficiently strong that the out-of-place Uzina brand bonus doesn't matter

[flint wave]

Obliterate exists anyways

idc if it's not amp damage

[tawdry flare]

Definitely nope cause of the pulse requirement and the brandset locked to Uzina glass cannon will still give more

[round zinc]

fair nuf

[hexed steppe]

if its only source of twd it acts like an amp 🍻

[flint wave]

exactly I mainly use striker anyways

[digital tusk]

I'm thinking of making a healer build, any tips for what attributes or gear pieces I should invest in?

[tawdry flare]

Healer means FI 4PCS Future initiative Btsu gloves and a bag alps with opportunistic

[onyx sage]

go for setup

can settle with blue core, just aim for repair skills and skill haste

use technician for the free skill tier

[brisk barn]

Tho survivalist is pretty good too

[tawdry flare]

No need to get the guy farming for even half unicorn

[onyx sage]

why no need? it's literally better

[flint wave]

getting repair skills shouldn't be hard

[hollow pasture]

(the BP is still also dropping from cps)

[onyx sage]

or not care about skill haste, literally just get a setup, recal one to repair skills and use it

it's dirt cheap and easy

[glossy scarab]

i found this with rly low rolls and had to optimize it like crazy

[tawdry flare]

It's better but difficult to farm

[onyx sage]

not difficult at all

you just need any setup

[hollow pasture]

Mine has haz pro
Pretty sure I could farm for a better one but I cba

[onyx sage]

you don't need setup with repair skills and skill haste

[tawdry flare]

5.11 set-up?

[hollow pasture]

If I ever feel like it ill craft one

[onyx sage]

tasteless joke

[tawdry flare]

You have a personal agenda against 5.11

[brisk barn]

Mine has max chc 😅

[tawdry flare]

I have a double crit setup + 3 yellow setup with skill haste /repair skill DMG repair and repair with status

[hollow pasture]

Also I just noticed
The setup has literally no quote like the other named items

They ran out of quote budget so sadge

[brisk barn]

That’s because it’s setting up for other named items to have one

[digital tusk]

Alr, just uh, small problem. Tf does any of that mean lol

[brisk barn]

Future Initiative gear set

BTSU gloves is an exotic

[tawdry flare]

Fi -> future initiative gear set BTSU is an exotic glove

[brisk barn]

Alps backpack is a brand

[digital tusk]

Well I knew the btsu gloves, I was confused on the rest

[brisk barn]

Opportunistic is the talent

[digital tusk]

Ah

[brisk barn]

Gives team more damage to targets you hit with a shotgun/grenade

[flint wave]

they ran out of gold colored named talents down the line too sadge

[hexed steppe]

shotgun or mmr, grenade is sledgehammer

[hollow pasture]

Gold costs alot mkay

Named items will now be purple

[brisk barn]

Right 😵‍💫

[brisk barn]

I NOTICED THIS AND GOT SO SAD 😭

[digital tusk]

So I assume I'm gonna be chucking grenades 9/10 times or hipfiring with my ACS12

[hollow pasture]

Scorpio

Preferably and stage left /lefty for perfect sledge

[flint wave]

lefty if ur running opportunistic

[digital tusk]

Funny enough I got a god roll lefty a few days ago

[brisk barn]

First you toss a fire grenade with lefty to proc slegde, then. You swap to Scorpio which will proc opportunistic and 7th shot will proc Scorpio damage buff for a total of 165% boost apparently

[hexed steppe]

same, scorpio/stage left on my ccep

[bright raptor]

they insteaded opted for the "great deal" or something similar scrawled on the backpack itself in marker

even if I'm reasonably certain that it's on the regular Uzina backpack too

[vale bay]

For dps build, does this look okay? The second AR is just a placeholder, and also the mask. Trying to farm a Coyote's mask. CR/CD is 40/115 for now

also opening gunner class

[brisk barn]

1 strikers too many, that 5th piece ain’t doing you much help chief

[vale bay]

It's a placeholder, gonna get a coyote's there soon!

As soon as I get it haha

[brisk barn]

Usually it’s the chest piece because 200 stacks is a lot and usually unreachable in normal content

Oh and the mask too 😅

But it all depends if teammates also use coyotes I’m pretty sure it’s a team wide buff

[vale bay]

Yep, gonna replace the mask, so ultimately it would be coyote's, 4 pc strikers and the holster!

[brisk barn]

But also great for solo content

[vale bay]

Also wanted to get some suggestions for the second gun slot, saw most build vids have shotguns?

[brisk barn]

But yeah it’s fine, bulwark shield can be swapped for crusader
Chest piece can be swapped for obliterate(talent) for easier/less stack based missions
Shotgun is ACS or lefty(named version)

[digital tusk]

First countdown, got one that's almost god roll lol

The setup bag I mean