td2-build-advice

[tawdry flare]

The higher the better

[mild echo]

is ACS the best shotgun for a striker + memento build? or can i use other shotguns?

also in squishy full red builds, do you guys run a reviver + crusader shield or crusader + pulse or pulse + reviver?

[heady ember]

ACS,Lefty,RocknRoll are great for stacking Striker up.Cause of fast shots.

[hazy steeple]

Those are the "meta 3".
six12 also works pretty well, basically any of them that fire fast, have a lot of bullets between reloads, and reload fairly quickly will be good enough.

[mild echo]

so Glory Daze and ACS are good enough for striker + memento icic, how about the skills?

right now i run reviver + crusader shield because im really squishy

but it would also be nice to see my enemies

[gloomy cipher]

striker ar

[hushed gorge]

RNG got no chill

[untold hearth]

Now what does a Rock n Roll consist of a god roll? 👀

[heady ember]

its all about the 30 mag for stacking,dooc is great,but i dont care at all on stats,just for stacking.

[hexed steppe]

Rocknroll is overkill if not running the striker chest.
I would go lefty for the extra modslot and huge debuff

[azure osprey]

anyone know a good build for incursion im struggling hard

[onyx sage]

get actual numbers lmao

numbers in skill description don't take all buffs

[tawdry flare]

It takes burn duration

[onyx sage]

we're comparing damage brug

that was the whole point

[tawdry flare]

Burger?

[hollow pasture]

The way the fire turret works should be it's base behaviour

[tawdry flare]

Ahh the range is a bit overkill though but yeah

[hollow pasture]

Maybe but if the fire turret worked at base like it does with Ortiz then we wouldn't need Ortiz and would just run it with eclipse

[untold hearth]

So I just need some slight opinions and little bit relief, besides expertise or not being level shd 1000 yet.

These are the ideal PVP builds I got so far made. I kinda think 1 red core on this one it shouldn't be that literally bad, especially using a Fenrir glove and 2 walkers which I think is just fine better than using contractors.

The other is just what others have told me is a "must" like the Fenrir, Grupo and Cheska, but is it really necessary cuz my chc is slightly high, yes I'm aware my Fenrir doesn't have another CHD, but rng had other plans 🤷🏻‍♂️.

Anyways I looked at the stats so far and they're pretty on par when I compared them. But what's really better off primarily since I play solo in the DZ most of the time.

Please do ping or reply so that I can get y'all's feedback better while I sleep. Thank you in advance. 👌🏻

Oh the skills ik defender is a must I just switch the other skill for whatever

[urban latch]

Strikers with the strikers chest is your main DPS build, and one FI healer with technician

[urban latch]

The first one is definitely low on crit chance, so ceska would definitely help it. I would just swap in the ceska knees you have and run that, assuming the backpack is a matador. You can have high enough chc without the ceska, but to do so means your giving up enough chd that makes it not worth running things like foxes knees and Picaros

[hollow pasture]

Strikers chest before tanker?

[urban latch]

It's not worth it before tanker, but for someone just getting into it that doesn't really matter

[hollow pasture]

I usually only use it after I'm done with tanker
Wright and so on it stays on
Might just be a me thing

[vestal ibex]

Striker chest is good when you can maintain stacks and you can easily do that on tanker.

[urban latch]

Yeah, Id just rather make it clear the chest is important, so if someone is running 1 build all the way through it's that one

[tawdry flare]

Use acs

[hollow pasture]

That's fair

Maybe I'll try the chest in tanker from now on

I don't really struggle with my side of tanker but it's worth a try

[tawdry flare]

It will be faster cause the stacks are way easier from tankers

[vestal ibex]

I bet you'd do just fine with obliterate chest but better TTK is better.

[hollow pasture]

I do already at the start of tanker stack with acs anyways at the spawn

So yea might aswell

[tawdry flare]

What is the chest brand for obliterate?

[vestal ibex]

Not 5.11.....

[tawdry flare]

so 5.11 it is

[vestal ibex]

It depends on your build and team comp. Not everyone has everything so a bunch of variations will work. If I were gonna do a bunch of pubs I'd probably go obliterate ceska/elmo/coyotes on turrets so I can one mag turrets and I'd decoy and sticky emp. I'd coyotes/striker chest/ceska/famas/ouro on tanker and I'd bloody knuckles/ceska/lefty/ouro wright and love birds.

[stiff tundra]

Having trouble sorting gear. Keeping anything with max attributes, Is there a better way. Like Ceska should only have red cores and skill tiers with only yellow cores? idk if that makes sense

[vestal ibex]

Best thing to do is start learning all the builds and building them. Once you dive down that hole you'll understand what's good and probably learn what the unicorns are because having yellow/red attributes on items that roll with different cores is very sought after for certain builds.

Also most gear is very easy to farm so it's not the end of the world to farm up items.

[stiff tundra]

roger roger, pinned tab has up to date info on builds?

[round hound]

is it me or the chameleon is utterly trash in long fight ?

[fallen comet]

it is

[hollow pasture]

It's an AR with SMG accuracy aswell lol

[round hound]

do you have any idea of what could replace it ? like i have a friend who just want to play THIS s****t

[round hound]

and range efficiency too ....

[hollow pasture]

Yea they never did anything to make it more like an AR

[fallen comet]

literally any high end smg or ar

[hollow pasture]

If he wants smth like it but better
Dark winter

[round hound]

he's just being full R on this one because , we just did an incursion and we both have the same build , except he's full red and i have elite mods with st elms ,
and i still manage to over dmg him by 1000M and he's keep telling me bs like " its the precision , its the range " xD

[vestal ibex]

lol you are right next to the bosses

[round hound]

i tried to tell him its the freaking gun that's garbage but he wont swallow it

[vestal ibex]

It's also a lot of other factors too. Pre stacking strikers, all headshots on the boss, vs leg and body shots to try to get said buffs up and just over all accuracy and how fast you aim and shoot. Regardless yeah get your boi an elmo/famas/police m4/carbine 7 or something. I wouldn't SMG in the incursion unless it's the ouro.

[brisk barn]

I use chameleon sad

it's just a cool weapon to me

[round hound]

i wonder what skill could be good to pair with any AR rifle since this dude want to do big numbers and dmg

[vestal ibex]

Firewall striker shield will give you damage and depending on the fight you'd want booster/scanner but those only lend to your dps in a minor or round about way without OC. Scanner does increase your dps but only in the fact of quicker target acquisition.

[hollow pasture]

You guys like my build. Has good chances of becoming the new meta I reckon

[hushed gorge]

Guys?
Is F2000 an alternative of Famas 2010?

[hazy steeple]

As of right now, no it's fairly awful.

[gentle lichen]

Shield splinterer has some weight to it as of currently

[fallen comet]

Not now but if they dont change the balancing for the next pts it might be

[hushed gorge]

I heard The Eagle Bearer is getting +50 RPM and u can change the 3rd attribute?

Will it make Eagle Bearer a meta Again?

[hollow pasture]

Yes

Not quite

I mean it'll be up there

[hushed gorge]

It was a meta back in the days

I guess

[hollow pasture]

Yea until they nerfed the P416 to the ground

[fallen comet]

You'll be able to change the 3rd stat on every exotic gun

[urban latch]

It's worth noting, saving gear just because it has max rolls is the best way to fill your stash with junk you'll never use. Getting gear with the correct rolls for a build, even if it's not maxed, is far more valuable than just having random max rolls. If you want to clear stuff out just go throw and junk anything that's more than 1 recalibration away from having the correct rolls for a build.

[steep ore]

It's awesome

Start with body shots , go to head afterwards and you're dealing tons of DMG

Only thing I don't like is the sound of it lmao

[vestal ibex]

You'd be dealing damage on par with some of the meta weapons only after like 4-5 mags or something.

It's just tons of damage in comparison to what you were doing before.

[steep ore]

What's meta now?

I just came back to division a few days ago after months xD

Because of the new stuff

[hushed gorge]

The Ouroboros SMG is the current meta rn

If ur gameplay style is DPS

[steep ore]

Yeah

Is it gotten on raid only?

[hushed gorge]

Incursion, yes

4 player mini raid mode

[steep ore]

Cool, might do later

[hushed gorge]

Do it with a proper team
Otherwise ☠️

[vestal ibex]

Yeah matchmaking is one way ticket to struggle bus.

[hushed gorge]

Its literally impossible to do with strangers

Most of the time, the strangers mess up real bad

[vestal ibex]

Eh it's not impossible it's just you might end up in a 20-30 minute run or you might not get past wright.

[hushed gorge]

Its not a indian movie that u can solo💀☠️

[vestal ibex]

It has been soloed tho...

[steep ore]

Any build recommended for it?

[hushed gorge]

Do u wanna be a 20-30k SHD lvl tryhards?

☠️☠️

[hushed gorge]

Striker 4pcs St Elmos Engine

And one healer must

[steep ore]

I'm just an innocent 505 shd

[hushed gorge]

3 dps and 1 proper healer

Thats how we did it

[vestal ibex]

11.5k?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quwXIfOP5q0

[steep ore]

Proper healers are hard AF to find

Everyone goes DPS

[vestal ibex]

Become the healer.

[hushed gorge]

Man
10k is try hard for me lol😆

I am nearly 1000 shd lvl player

[vestal ibex]

I mean that's newish player territory to most.

In the end SHD doesn't reflect much.

[hushed gorge]

Man,i got slammed by a 110k shd lvl player

[vestal ibex]

I know a lot of people with 2-5k SHD on 2-3 platforms and accounts.

[steep ore]

Wtf

Are those even a thing

[hushed gorge]

Yes unfortunately

[vestal ibex]

SHD came out a long time ago and along the way many XP exploits have come and gone and you were "allowed" to do them until they said stop or fixed them. Some people have a ton of SHD because of that. Also some people have just played a ton of hours and never farmed SHD or had tons of hours in year 1 before SHD so they are lower SHD with like 6-8k hours.

[brisk barn]

what even is a heal build? Half tank half skill with revive hive and heal drone?

[steep ore]

Probably

[hushed gorge]

Skill based build

6 Skill cores

[brisk barn]

would you want catharsis or tardigrade?

[vestal ibex]

Healer build is kinda misleading because that's a by product of the set that is just a bonus imo. It's more of a buffer support build that by healing keeps you in the FI buff.

So the FI healer build you find in the spreadsheet gives 25% TWD and TSD, perfect op is 15% amp, perfect sledge is 40% damage to armor, if doing survivalist spec it's another 10% to status effected enemies(set on fire by fire nades), and scorpio debuff which is 20% amp.

[brisk barn]

I guess I should farm out one of those builds then

good to have surely?

[vestal ibex]

I love it but it's painful to run with bad players because no matter how well you server a dish a pig is gonna knock half of it on the floor anyway.

[brisk barn]

should be good to run CD for a while then and try to find BTSU gloves

[tawdry flare]

Should not ask that question here even @vestal ibex @urban latch are afraid of that question now

[vestal ibex]

I just think it's dumb to reference the PTS which isn't part of the live game and what people are actually playing. I don't care if the meta changes but if the game gets too trivial the monkey brain will see out harder challenges.

[tawdry flare]

Yeah which I have been doing before PTS you. Know what my Meta is and it will be unless it is nerfed

[onyx sage]

yeah pts data is subject to change...

[urban latch]

Personally I just generally don't really bother with this questions. The general answer everyone will give right now is strikers, but it's sort of a pointless question but imo the real answer is just "it depends on the situation" and outside of the incursion strikers honestly isn't the "meta" option for really anything else. There's a better more "meta" strategy for everything else than strikers

[onyx sage]

too much effort spent to answer

[tawdry flare]

I was gonna make a 5.11 joke and you both ruined it 🥲🥲😭😭

[onyx sage]

if i'm gonna be honest, it's played out gogamer. lol

[tawdry flare]

Who is gogamer

[onyx sage]

you've been on it for a month now

[tawdry flare]

On what

[onyx sage]

5.11

[tawdry flare]

Yeah I will stop it when they Nerf it

[onyx sage]

you keep referencing it but not like it's constructive or anything and it's getting really tiring hearing it over and over. i don't mind it but i can see people who are

[tawdry flare]

Time to change the name than

[onyx sage]

that's not the point, just be more constructive instead of just joking around

[tawdry flare]

I am constructive most of the times

[onyx sage]

you can keep the name if you want but it's tiring to hear 5.11 over and over

[tawdry flare]

I don't joke when giving advice though but point taken will not talk about 5.11 until next PTS

[steep ore]

Damn

I was just wondering lol

[tawdry flare]

Wut?

[steep ore]

About the meta stuff

Wasn't expecting something specific but like overall preference with what there is now

[tawdry flare]

Meta is and always has been top DMG

[tawdry flare]

striker negotiators and hunter fury with weapons like ouroboros regulus etc are the meta

Alongside talents like focuss hh glasscanmon

[hollow pasture]

Personal preference but for open world I'd rather use HF over strikers
If solo

[brisk barn]

glass cannon pain

[tawdry flare]

Doesn't matter it is pain or not it is meta

[vestal ibex]

Sorry we are just a bunch of fucking nerds and get side tracked with junk. I'd suggest just following the build guide for strikers for now just know there is some things you can change for certain content which make it much better.

[brisk barn]

I was running perfect glass cannon for the longest time

[tawdry flare]

I run it on every skull build I use and nego elmos build

[hollow pasture]

Only run PGC on my HW seeker build tbh

(the only skill build I have)
Eclipse doesn't really count

[tawdry flare]

I have oxi mortar and hw seeker spam builds only

[hollow pasture]

I should make a mortar build tbh

[vestal ibex]

I was lazy and did a HW mortar/seeker build. GC china chest and minor wyvern part. Works pretty well and allows me to seeker spam.

I just went skill damage/status effect and PFE mods.

Mortar turret is like 15 second CD so destroying it isn't a big deal and when you do destroy it it'll proc HW and refresh your seekers and the time you've gotta wait for HW cooldown you pretty much have the mortar turret back.

[slate wedge]

for conflict yeah

[slate wedge]

can't you also just pick it up?

[vestal ibex]

Yeah but I'm not picking that up I'm running, cya later.

I'm also using BTSU at opportune times so it's on cool down most of the time but I'll let the distance thing despawn if I don't wanna OC.

[hexed steppe]

Hw=weak mortar 😂

Unicorn mortar or gtfo /s

[slate wedge]

what i use on my hw build is sacrifice + btsu gloves and seekers + artificer hive

[hexed steppe]

Not a fan of hw lately. I still have a set but just went all highend. China sacrifice contractors 2grupo force multiplier .
Mortar and stinger hive.
9m+ mortar hits

[slate wedge]

mine is with strategic allignment and a wyvern piece

[hexed steppe]

Mortar cd is like 10sec and hive racks charges quick. Sometime I just throw it out with a couple on it in a pinch

Perfect combined arms is 30% tsd. Really easy to 1tap something with in sync right before the hits

I think the 3second uptime scares people tbh

But it's basically on demand as needed

[onyx sage]

i use hw when i want to refresh revive hive quickly kek

[hexed steppe]

I have swapped in btsu if I see teamates with reviver on cd

Wont be able to do that after project ramshackle drops tho

[vestal ibex]

"They are all good builds brent"

Really it's just the ability to spam with me being too lazy to farm out parts for a proper mortar turret build, which is just the GS parts at this point.

[tawdry flare]

With btsu?

[onyx sage]

depends

but i'm just using 4p hw to refresh cd

[grand fractal]

what specialisation should I run with a incursion dps build?

[tulip charm]

firewall gunner or tech if healer

[magic nest]

could someone please send me a good dps build?

[hollow pasture]

The pinned in this channel has a spreadsheet with a good compendium of builds all verified by the community

[magic nest]

thank you

[desert oasis]

Which ARs are the "best", high end ones

[sweet socket]

i would love to know that too i love ARs

[slate wedge]

famas, police m4, carbine 7, shield splinterer

[sweet socket]

i do have the Carbine 7

what do you think of St. Elmo's Engine

[urban latch]

Elmo's is very good as well

[cursive gull]

im wondering if its better to run an ouroboros/famas or an elmo/ACS type build for strikers

[desert oasis]

shield splinterer? don't think I have seen that one

[sweet socket]

Does the DMG value matter in endgame or are attributes more important
like my Carbine 7 DMG is more then St. Elmo's Engine but i feel like Elmo is better when i used them both

[desert oasis]

st elmo has very strong mods

strong mods, high rpm, high accuracy, just strong overall

might have changed with the recent ptrs but I haven't been following them

[desert oasis]

thank you

[tulip charm]

Its from complete pre wony hunters

[glossy scarab]

should get it. its gonna be one of the best ARs after the next title update, unless they change it again who knows

[edgy junco]

What is the best stricker setup?

Can anyone share there end game setup?!

[tawdry flare]

Wouldn't btsu hw will be the fastest cooldown for your hive? Especially reviver

[onyx sage]

-_- putting on btsu after it's already on CD doesn't make it go faster

[tawdry flare]

Yeah it doesn't but dying and respawning will get your hive instant back

[onyx sage]

how would it if it's already on CD?

are you half awake lol

[tawdry flare]

Dying and respawning and yeah just woke up

[glossy scarab]

something like this. you can use a ceska chest with it too depending on the chc and chd rolls on your gear pieces

[onyx sage]

yeah and restart the entire legendary?

[tawdry flare]

You can just die before the last NPC and the next player will go to the cp to revive yaa that's how speeds get their oxi back

[onyx sage]

you forget i play solo most of the time

i use reviver hive to theorycraft strats before i actually do no reviver runs

[tawdry flare]

No I didn't

[onyx sage]

why would you bring up checkpoint reviving if that would refresh hive CD anyway? we assumed it's not possible so that's where 4p hw is used

[tawdry flare]

We really assumed that you didn't mention the assumption 🤔

[onyx sage]

it's implied, read between the lines. if i could do checkpoint reviving no one would mention 4p hw

[tawdry flare]

There is no TL;DR huh that is unfair

[onyx sage]

no, your logic is flawed: you went from 4p hw to 4p hw with btsu then to checkpoint reviving which defeats the whole point

why would you mention 4p hw with btsu if you were going to ask if checkpoint reviving is an option anyway

[tawdry flare]

Cause I am half awake

[onyx sage]

then don't discuss seriously until you're fully awake lol. it's what everyone learns eventually

[onyx sage]

@tawdry flare 4p hotshot with 292% hsd on white death

321 with 307% hsd on white death

[tawdry flare]

What was the hp of 4P elite legendary 25 mil?

[onyx sage]

25.2

green color in the final cells means it hits the breakpoint

[tawdry flare]

They should really increase the NPC hp by 10-15% on legendary and other difficulty with the new pts

[zenith drift]

What’s a good build based around the ninja backpack 🎒 and St Elmo

[dreamy valve]

no headshot roll yet

[hazy steeple]

As of right now, there really is no "good" build based around the Ninja Bag, but once Project Resolve goes through (see #news-and-announcements), that will likely change.

[hazy steeple]

Yeah the "rainbow protection" (as we like to call it) means that with the blue there in the first slot, you're far more likely to have more blues appear elsewhere in the item.

[dreamy valve]

huh

[hazy steeple]

It's to stop items from having one of each colour in the rolls too often, called a "rainbow roll" by the community.

[dreamy valve]

Festive bag too I guess

I don't know what people are trying to roll for that one

but I got a crit chance and damage one to drop

[hazy steeple]

I'd probably use the CHD one, just for the fun of being able to have triple CHD stats on one item.

[olive rain]

Quick question all is it the military M870 everyone uses?

[brisk glacier]

fwiw the build i came up with for ninjabike backpack when first starting was red/blue hybrid 3 x HB, 2 x striker, st elmos main and ACS for stacks close up with PFE

i doubt it's anywhere near peak but i could solo heroic content with it easily as a newbie

[gentle lichen]

Isn't punch drunk just... better?

1+ attribute and a 20% pistol damage brand

You also wouldn't need 4 godrolled HSD mods too

[dreamy valve]

I’m collecting one of each attribute roll

Don’t ask

[hexed steppe]

itll be a nice collection to keep in the stash 😆 . not a very usable piece outside of PFE tank stuff

[dreamy valve]

I just love the mask that much

https://youtu.be/ONkdlhQavs0?si=_uSo1bSJtjvOO9ck

[gentle lichen]

Damn dude chillout 😾

[stiff jasper]

Not really

They are both 30% headshot, and depends build, let's say i only need hsd and weapons handling ,hazard etc., other attributes are unnecessary, then the attributes of punch=0

[hexed steppe]

punchdrunk would still come out on top. they would match the 30%hsd sure, but punch has another attribute thats usable

[tawdry flare]

It is not punch drunk every other mask will give you more except when going for things like PFE

[hollow pasture]

💀

[regal jacinth]

Anyone know for the talent "Trauma", is the cool down per enemy or only one enemy at a time?

[tawdry flare]

It is cooldown for you not the enemies

[regal jacinth]

Ah, ty

[rigid wing]

Would like some advice on what the best build is to complete heroic CP4 and world activities farming? I've been struggling to pick a good build to play... I've tried the following and results as follows:
1: Strikers with coyote and ouroboros = felt really squishy having to go face to face
2: Regulus HF = felt like I couldn't one shot yellow mobs until I had at least 2 stacks of headhunter....
3: Hotshot with white death = can clear no problem but felt really slow as I tend to wait for people to get into view before engaging.

Note: I have mostr of my stuff on expertise but haven't "leveled up" their expertise to get bonus armor/dmg. Does it make a huge difference?

[tawdry flare]

Regulus is the fastest way but requires a bit of practice and spawn location

[tawdry flare]

Expertise doesn't make a huge difference

If you want to cheese them use Headhunter determined

You can use Scorpio with hf fury

Also a nice way for those doesn't have ouroboros

[rigid wing]

dang so i do have the riht builds. just have to git ud

gud*

[tawdry flare]

Yup your builds are fine as eevee would have said Skill Issues™®©

[vestal ibex]

Some CPs have very predictable/forced spawns while others have you running back and forth, this is why you see some people running 1 CP and resetting the map. Looking at you Navy hill. That one can be completed and reset in under 3 minutes.

[hollow pasture]

Taxi graveyard is one that's also relatively easy with the spawns

[tawdry flare]

Only few CP's have good spawns

[rigid wing]

yeah i've been runnin around completin all cp's haha

[hollow pasture]

There's another that's easy

I'm forgetting it's name

[tawdry flare]

End of the world?

[vestal ibex]

I just love Navy hill. On attack it's two doors that are like 30ish meters apart and defend it's two man holes that are 20ish meters apart.

[vestal ibex]

Breh defend sucks when they spawn the other side.

[vestal ibex]

I would suggest not calling reinforcements until you are done and have moved closer to the defending spawns, this helps you force spawns.

[hollow pasture]

Mentioned navy hill but nobody mentioned navy plaza
That's the one I was forgetting

[tawdry flare]

Also dod-regenbue has a cp guide should have most the cps covered

[hollow pasture]

That's probably the easiest one

[tawdry flare]

Yeah that one near space administration hq right?

[hollow pasture]

Yes
The one where you call reinforcements right next to the spawns basically

[vestal ibex]

Oh shit that's the one I meant. Yeah idk where the name mix up came from.

[hollow pasture]

Both navy?
Either navy hill is also not that hard
If you place urself correctly you have views of both spawns kinda

It's just longer if they spawn from one of the spawns instead of the other

[vestal ibex]

Yeah but plaza is the one you can do in under 3 minutes super easy. I should try to see my fastest time to clear with resets and traveling.

[hexed steppe]

Usually ill either be on a nego build for dps or hotshot headhunter. Both work well for clearing.
Nego is like an aoe dps since damage can transfer... hotshot just destroys, and probably the fastest for me personally

[hollow pasture]

Both feel extremely fun to use if played right

[hexed steppe]

Once I got a solid nego put together everything else dps just feels meh

[tawdry flare]

Cause nego has cc it requires a bit of practice but once someone is marked doesn't matter he Run a mile or hide somewhere he will die

[hexed steppe]

Not really tbh. You spray targets and focus the highest armor. I treat it like high end or striker.

[hollow pasture]

Just mark everything
Wiggle ur aim all over the enemies 😏

[hexed steppe]

Yeah pretty much high crit means they gonna mark easy

Its not something you have to even think about

[hollow pasture]

ND the only build that can make the diamondback somewhat good and even then its still not that fun

Since its reloading simulator

[hexed steppe]

Well, until golden bullet 🍻

[hollow pasture]

Adding that to my list of buildS to use with GB

[tawdry flare]

Should use sleigher with GB

[hexed steppe]

I'm just going to main oxi chem launcher when GB starts 😎

[vestal ibex]

Chatter box that shit yo

[hexed steppe]

Ofc.. how else am I gonna spam a spawn with 25 oxi 🤣

I've actually been throwing oxi on my mortar build for tidal and it's pretty dope at the end for the sams

[tawdry flare]

Apartment 🙃

[hexed steppe]

That slows you down after 4

[tawdry flare]

With gb you will always be at 7

[hexed steppe]

Chatter is superior

[sullen sun]

Is expertise going away in PvP?

In Feb

[patent fossil]

Only in conflict, not DZ

[unkempt dune]

12% critical hits vs damage to target out of cover, which is better?

[magic pilot]

Depends on the build

[hazy steeple]

@unkempt dune dtooc is pretty much always going to win, as there's fewer sources of it in total.

[sullen sun]

What a shame

[vestal ibex]

They are capping health gain from SHD at 2k tho.

I think it's kinda dumb to remove SHD from conflict just because you now need separate builds for conflict and the DZ as you have to account for the watch loss in conflict. Would be better if they were to give SHD augmentation for conflict then you wouldn't have such a difference.

[sweet socket]

Can someone tell me how to maximise the attributes of a an exotic weapon please ?

[glossy scarab]

optimize each attribute, or reconfigure it until it comes up god rolled

the first one i got lucky when i reconfigured it and everything was maxed out. the other one, you can see by the circular things noting the 2 attributes i had to optimize

[sweet socket]

I see thank you
Optimising needs a lot of resources i don’t have lol

[glossy scarab]

yep

[tame crane]

You def do not want to optimize from the worst possible roll all the way to the max😭 it will cost you a kidney

[glossy scarab]

yeah ideally you should only be optimizing 2-3 times.

[flint wave]

Anythings possible with a little wony running

[cursive gull]

not looking to run WONY 3 times a week with my optimizing habits

[hollow pasture]

Countdown farm for stuff with good rolls and you'll also get credits from it so then buy optimisation caches

Win win

[hollow pasture]

This expertise cost reduction gonna make me delete my 3 other characters and run wony 3 times again before project resolve drops ngl

[tame crane]

Will it be cheaper for expertise next season?

[hollow pasture]

Yes

[tame crane]

Also since you guys are mentioning WONY that much, is it a good way to get resources re-running it?

[hollow pasture]

If ur high enough shd level
Think the general recommendation is like 2.5k shd and up when it starts being worth it

[slate wedge]

it is always worth it

even 200 SHD points in 1.5 hours is great

[flint wave]

Shd 1.5k is fine

[hexed steppe]

save the next WONY till at least 1200shd 😉

[hexed steppe]

yes it duplicates your shd watch and any scavenging points you've gained. can be done on repeat if needed

[hexed steppe]

its worth doing once the shd you gain is more than you can gain in the 1.5-2hrs depending on how fast you get at it

[gleaming yew]

Hello guys, sorry if this is a dumb question but :
What would you advise a beginner to do as his first build (for solo play) as of the current meta ?

[fickle light]

for low level people (like pre-level 40) i'd just say go with the highest level stuff you find on your way to 40. For fresh level 40 peeps, check the striker build in the spreadsheet (pinned in this channel)

[gleaming yew]

Thanks man

[cursive gull]

Im wondering, would it be more effective to run ouro/famas setup or an elmo/ACS setup for strikers

[junior surge]

Both are good, just slightly different

[cursive gull]

also wondering if i should reroll this for better stats or keep it and optimize it

[glossy scarab]

its kind of a game of chance. you might get god rolls on the next re roll, or end up spending more exo components than you wanted. but thats also a lot of optimizing

[cursive gull]

yea thats what im thinking

i have quite a bit of exotc components tho

[glossy scarab]

i would keep rollin

if you get rate of fire thats good too. only slightly less damage then dttooc. damage to armor isnt very good tho

[cursive gull]

speaking of which

now im out of poly carbonate

[idle hound]

Is it possible to get the elmo without the expansion?

[glossy scarab]

i dont think so but im not 100% about that

[glossy scarab]

oof

[idle hound]

Damn but thx tho

[glossy scarab]

i mean dtaa is ok. its just a considerable amount less dmg than dttooc

[flint wave]

You probably can it has no quest tied to it or anything

[idle hound]

So i just gotta get exotics sum other way beside summit okay

[glossy scarab]

yeah if you can look at targeted loot in the open world go to ARs

[flint wave]

or random exotic cache drop

[idle hound]

Yeah but ngl they kinda bad the ones im getting

[flint wave]

that's how I plan to get level 30 elmos

[idle hound]

Note im brand new to wt 5 so

[idle hound]

Interesting

[flint wave]

but so much stuff in the pool

[idle hound]

Exactly so its so much harder

[glossy scarab]

i cant wait for the changes to intimidate next update

[cursive gull]

literally took the last drop of mats to get this

[glossy scarab]

sometimes ya gotta spend it all

[hexed steppe]

just optimize. you dont want to lose 3rd stat

welp already finished XD

[flint wave]

rip 30 exo components

[cursive gull]

still have like over 90, its all good

[hazy steeple]

If that's what you got after 30 components, I'd say it's about 30 well spent.
That's the godroll.

[cursive gull]

it was more like 12

but have no more mats tho

[hazy steeple]

Eh, just do a few Countdown or WONY runs, you'll be drowning in mats before long.

mats are easy, godrolled most OP weapon ingame are forever.

[flint wave]

Wasp is the op weapon currently

Not ouro

[hazy steeple]

For those confused, Thom' is referencing an alternate version of the Chatterbox that is exclusive to the Chinese version of div2.

which raises several questions.

[flint wave]

I don't have the Chinese copy

[hollow pasture]

Apparently tencent runs it and renamed to the blockade 2

Since its China and the division implies there's a division and you know how China is

[analog mural]

im surprised its not named the multiplication 2

[cosmic ferry]

Would Assault Rifle targeted loot be best for farming Burn Out?

Which I gather is the best DPS weapon in the game according to the spreadsheet?

[tame flax]

No best dps weapon in this game

[glossy scarab]

if you want the best dps burnout is beat by a regular famas with a dmg talent

[cursive gull]

personally this is the famas i use mainly

[cosmic ferry]

I saw that Talent for the first time today and was v intrigued

Feel like it would be wonderful on an LMG?

[cursive gull]

LMGs might be worth it when the buff comes

[hazy steeple]

Famas w/strained is pretty much the "meta" right now, but just a fair heads up: the game is undergoing a major rebalancing, mainly focusing on bringing up underused weapons to the same tier as famas/police m4/c7.

[cosmic ferry]

That's good to know

[cursive gull]

way ahead, already got a godroll shield splinterer lol

[cosmic ferry]

Fortunately (?), I'm a fresh 40 and so I'm looking for something to settle into

Right now I'm using this AKM

[hazy steeple]

We don't know about changes to the AK (afaik) but as of right now they're somewhat dfsksdfsdf.

basically, kinda naff but usable.

the important thing is a good talent and having dtooc (damage to target out of cover) as your 3rd attribute. I don't think that part is going to change.

[cosmic ferry]

Yeah, I figured that. I'm really just going off of whatever loot I obtain from activities right now. My goal at the moment is to grind as many crafting blueprints as possible, it seems like that's a logical first step out of WONY

[hazy steeple]

That is honestly the best thing you can do, yeah. Just get them all sorted out so you can share them on other characters.

[glossy scarab]

didnt take a pic from the pts but this will do

[cursive gull]

yea have the exact same roll

[glossy scarab]

maybe we both bought the same one from cassie. i dont remember if thats my original from the case or one i bought

[cursive gull]

what i did was i opened my first case when i finished WONY and then just recalibrated DTOOC on there

[glossy scarab]

cant wait for the title update. hopefully the pts 2 will not have the undesirable stuff in it

[cursive gull]

dont even know why people dont like PTS other than the swappage nerf

[glossy scarab]

yeah thats about it. that and the weird status stuff happening in pve instead of just pvp

i love the way intimidate is working

[cosmic ferry]

What's the benefit of having other characters?

[cursive gull]

you can farm materials, more loadout slots if needed, stuff like that

[limpid ocean]

How to make a build to survive in dz. All I run is striker so I get oneshot by other people

[round zinc]

This is so stupid i love it

Famas,but better in every possible way

[untold hearth]

Without expertise, what's the possibility for a PVP build that involves catharsis, Matador, a walker piece so 2 walkers, picaro, Grupo, and foxes. How would that look with 5-6 blue Cores and the CHC and CHD percentage wise???? 🧐

But your already SHD 1k

[hazy steeple]

There's a "starter guide" for PvP 📌 pinned in this channel, go to the spreadsheet.
all builds in the spreadsheet are up to date.

[slate wedge]

that's a good build

what's your chest talent?

[untold hearth]

In my head sounds that way but I can't determine the percentage numbers fully maxed nor that I'm not SHD 1k yet 🙃. That's why I asked lol

[untold hearth]

It be a walker

[slate wedge]

walker with unbreakable?

[untold hearth]

Yep

[sullen sun]

Why is flatline and laser pointer getting nerfed into the ground?

[fallen comet]

spotter isnt changing is it?

[sullen sun]

Unfortunately

[untold hearth]

2:50am sooo can anyone do the math on his one lol

[sullen sun]

Flatline sry

[hushed gorge]

isn't this server official server?

hackers build

bro literally aimbotted me

☠️

[slate wedge]

yep, he is a confirmed cheater

74% headshot accuracy

[hushed gorge]

bruh,almost killed him

[untold hearth]

🧐

[hushed gorge]

man

this game sux

again

how is this build one shotting us?💀

[slate wedge]

he is a cheater

[untold hearth]

Get clips, screenshots, load a new server, and make time to report em

👌🏻

[hushed gorge]

reported but i guess he wont get banned

[glossy scarab]

maybe when they get around to it. if the evidence is sufficient. im sure theres a long backlog of suspected cheaters that are up for review

[merry drift]

i played countdown last day with a cheater

[glossy scarab]

less work for you

[hushed gorge]

Cheating in Division 2 doesn't make sense

Its already a broken game without cheats

[icy nymph]

Hi guys, does anyone know why my non headshot sniper damage against humanoid enemies is like halfed (500k with 1,1m total damage) and 1/4 (4m while on shooting range its 17-18m) when headshot with headhunter bonus full? is there some mechanism that i havent activated yet?

[icy nymph]

so the total damage number in weapon isnt accurate too?

Bcs if my headshot bonus is 300 then my headshot damage should be like 4x of it, right? But its below 1,5m. And full headhunter should be 12,5x but in reality its just 4x i think

[glossy scarab]

are you looking at the "last hit" dmg number, or the dmg numbers from the dmg ticker you can look at it if you press /

[tawdry flare]

Bruh

The new smg is pretty busted if it comes alive

[glossy scarab]

i dont think we'll see that

[slate wedge]

what do you mean with humanoid enemies?

pvp?

[icy nymph]

Its from the damage number that appear when your bullet hit, total damage 1.1m but when i try hit it against non mech (turret, etc, when i hit them the damage is 1.1m) the damage seems decreased

[icy nymph]

Nopee, just any enemies that isnt mech like turret

[icy nymph]

Oh ill check it tomorrow, havent tried the / button yet, thankss

Or maybe i should just leave my sniper build and stick with st elmo striker ninjabike obliterate lmao

[glossy scarab]

im guessing as opposed to robotic enemies. but that had me confused for a sec too

[vestal ibex]

Did you turn on the GE?

[magic pilot]

What is that?

[glossy scarab]

a chinese version of the game exotic

[tawdry flare]

New China div2 SMG

[magic pilot]

Why does it have 5 attributes lol

[dreamy valve]

that would out dps Ouroboros

[bright raptor]

those attributes include a Damage to Elites stat and a damage bonus to enemies affected by its talent

[lethal trellis]

@bright raptor SMG damage/CHD/DTTOC/damage to elite/ROF

[bright raptor]

yes I can read Chinese too thank you very much

the "endless cycle" (roughly) name sure looks like it's their take on Ouroboros

[limpid ocean]

I see people running unbreakable and adrenaline rush so is that meta for dark zone builds

[glossy scarab]

its very common

[limpid ocean]

So it's like good for dark zone right?

[glossy scarab]

yea if you're going in to pvp

[limpid ocean]

So if I wanted to just farm landmarks I should use a dps build?

[glossy scarab]

you still want mostly armor

[limpid ocean]

I guess I'ma put blue cores on striker then

[gentle lichen]

It scales with armor

The more you have. The better it will be

[limpid ocean]

Should I do 3 red and 3 blue or 4 blue

[gentle lichen]

4 blue minimum

[glossy scarab]

If you use memento and picaros you can have 2 red 6 blue

[limpid ocean]

Picaros?

[glossy scarab]

Named Holster

Has armor core and a 15% weapon damage attribute

[limpid ocean]

I would run ninja bike messenger over memento

That's op for a holster

[gentle lichen]

Don't

[limpid ocean]

Why

[gentle lichen]

Because it's shit

[glossy scarab]

Memento is worlds more powerful than ninja bike tho. As long as you don't get rogues on you while you have no stacks. But once you have the stacks it's a great piece to use for solo dz farming

30% weapon DMG. That's 2 extra red cores on the build when u have full stacks. Making that build 6 blue core, 4 red core

[gentle lichen]

No stacks with a couple trophies around on 4 blue+ you literally win

[glossy scarab]

Yeah tru

[gentle lichen]

Also bonus armor makes you immune from shock so consider that too

[glossy scarab]

Oh nice I didn't know it protected from that

[gentle lichen]

As long as it's your bonus armor being hit shock ammo will not work

[glossy scarab]

Sick

[limpid ocean]

Well I'ma farm that holster and ourbours

And try not to get oneshot

[fickle light]

the number of misspellings of Ouroboros has just risen by one

[gentle lichen]

Oreoborealis

[glossy scarab]

Hors d'oeuvres

[slate wedge]

i saw uraburas

[severe bane]

What is a very good build if you like to take things easy but also deal quite some damage alongside a lot of armor?

[fickle light]

in general you kinda gotta forget about both doing a lot of damage and having a lot of armor

[severe bane]

okay

I'm using Survivalist atm

[hollow pasture]

Oreo my beloved

[fickle light]

the spec doesnt reeeeeally matter overall, its more of a bit of extra stuff rather than the start of a build

[severe bane]

oh alright didn't know that

So basically I just gotta figure out what suits me best

[fickle light]

but if you want a great starter build that'll help you through all content, try the striker build in the spreadsheet pinned in this channel

[severe bane]

Ah yes thank you I'm currently checking it out, thanks for the help

[mystic kayak]

does Empress International backpack only drop blue cores?

[carmine kindle]

Do you still have to do 5 challenges in summit for capacitor to fall into gen drop pool?

[bright raptor]

Yes

[bright raptor]

yes, it's bugged again since season launch

[lilac rampart]

Can someone recommend me what to run Im thinking if doing a smg build based on the dark winter using 4 pc hunter then fox knee pads but Im unsure of what exotic is best to use for the build for the gear any recommendations?

[hollow pasture]

Memento works well with Hunters fury when doing solo
Can also work in mp but less so

[lilac rampart]

thankss thats something I completely overlooked!

[icy nymph]

oh yes i do

does activating ge decrease damage?

oh yes it does work, thank you so much!!

my bad for not reading the global event description lmao

[desert oasis]

Any other talents for LMGs or strained and steady hands still the best?

[cosmic ferry]

Strained does seem goated for LMGS

[brittle bloom]

Gr9 with gunner specialization ammo mag and steady handed is just funny af

[junior surge]

Frenzy is really fun aswell

[river lintel]

if i wanna run artificer for self healing with a shield, which mods do i put on the hive itself? healing or stim efficiency... not sure which one would benefit me

[flint wave]

Tech efficiency is the only thing that benefits artificer

but that mod doesn't exist

[magic pilot]

Stim efficiency is for booster hive

Healing is for reinforcer

[carmine kindle]

How does one level SHD quickly?

[hexed steppe]

Open world, heroic, with directives you can manage.
Control points , executions, propaganda

[pearl carbon]

Hey does anyone know how to get the ravenous

And how good it is

[flint wave]

🐴 raid

[woven peak]

From Iron Horse Raid. Or if your lucky from DZ.

[flint wave]

overall not good

[desert oasis]

Mods, J Mc and KILLGOREX99 thanks for the replies I will try them out. Didn't want to bother you guys with a ping.

[untold hearth]

Without expertise, what's the possibility for a PVP build that involves catharsis, Matador, a walker piece so 2 walkers, picaro, Grupo, and foxes. How would that look with 5-6 blue Cores and the CHC and CHD percentage wise???? 🧐
But your already SHD 1k

[magic pilot]

With what weapon?

@untold hearth

[untold hearth]

1. Famas, 2. Elmo 3. Oro 4. Custom military shotgun

[magic pilot]

It would work fine for all of those. Famas would be low on crit. So would shotgun

Elmo and Oro would be fine but there's better options for each specifically

2 Walker loses out to other more specific combos

Overall not a bad option though

[untold hearth]

Please don't say chaska

[magic pilot]

Ceska lol

On all of them besides oreo

[untold hearth]

Why does it always have to be that peace? Because I'm already getting near 60% and it could go over

[magic pilot]

Because your chd is lower when not using ceska

It's a staple for crit builds that don't use smg

Unless it's Hazpro smg

[hazy steeple]

Just to clarify the "chd is lower when not using a piece that gives you chc" part
ceska is good because it gives free chc, which free's up your other attributes for more CHD.

[magic pilot]

It gives more chc than any other source which allows more chd on the build

[untold hearth]

Please just tell me right now what I really should mainly be using because I'm going to lose my mind what not to expertise and I don't want to waste resources lol

[magic pilot]

Second build is the ideal catharsis meta build for AR

Other than the health roll on chest

First build is gonna be super low on crit for a few reasons. 1 AR 2 no ceska 3 bad bp rolls

[untold hearth]

Yeah I can't get rid of that one lol I need a newer one

[magic pilot]

It's a pain in the ass

This is my 6 blue core version since I also don't have a blue matador with double crit

So believe me I feel your pain. I'm almost 5k shd on console and still don't have a blue double crit sokolov chest, matador or grupo double crit chest

[dreamy valve]

Mm a fellow 6 blue enjoyer!

[untold hearth]

Well shit so no matter what I do 2 walkers is a waste anyways? Sonova mf well looks like I'ma be stuck with A Fenrir piece for a while 🤣

[untold hearth]

I'ma start expertising these pieces now lol

[magic pilot]

3/3 split is fine but 6 blue core has some Meta versions

[hushed gorge]

game is not giving me Matador
thats why i am running normal Adrenaline Rush

☠️

[untold hearth]

Oof

[hushed gorge]

can hacker even dc you from game?

i had this question on thoughts for a long time

for some reasons recently suddenly A pop up arrives
disconnecting in 30 secs

whereas i have good internet

[vestal ibex]

You're farming this in the DZ right? You can also get it in named caches too. I forget if it's a decent reconstructed cache blueprint too which is another option.

[vestal ibex]

Yes, using voip does expose your IP and they can do ddos attacks that force your router/modem to blep.

[hushed gorge]

This is very annoying

Sometimes i get dc-ed for no reasons

[hushed gorge]

wait,Matador is DZ Exclusive?

☠️

[onyx sage]

yes lol

[onyx sage]

yeah it's a descent bp too

[hushed gorge]

damn

[bright raptor]

the good news is that it also drops from named caches

so do things that give you named caches

[gentle lichen]

It's a 2% 4% 6% diff depending on the amount of ad rush stacks

Not a game changer but every bit of armor is welcome

Good brand too

Esp when all blue because you benefit most from it

[cosmic ferry]

Which should I keep?

[tawdry flare]

1st imo 4 optimization 2nd is like 4-5 optimization

1st will require less materials

[cosmic ferry]

Thanks!

[sullen sun]

Anyone got a Ridgeway build?

[gentle lichen]

#td2-build-advice message #td2-build-advice message

Those 2 are your best bet

Put as many blues as you can

Have sadist on shotgun too

[sullen sun]

Can you run Foundry in DZ?

[urban latch]

You can run whatever you want but that doesn't mean it'll work well

[sullen sun]

Will it work well?

[urban latch]

Not really tbh

[wise swallow]

Tardi, cav is pretty good for a tank/support

[main heath]

I just got a St. Elmo engine. Does it work well with Eclipse protocol?

[flint wave]

no

[tawdry flare]

Nope Scorpio does well with EP though

[sullen sun]

Is this a good armor regen build?

[dreamy valve]

Memento is the equivalent of that entire setup

[sullen sun]

What’s the best armor regen build for DZ?

[woven tulip]

Can someone point me to an up to date AR/Lmg Striker's Build and a Dps Hybrid Build? Im a returning player trying to update old loadouts

[fickle light]

ar strikers is in the build spreadsheet, "dps hybrid" is a bit vague but you should find something close in the spreadsheet as well, spreadsheet is pinned in this chat

[vague axle]

is 31.9% CHC fine to have with 122% CHD? all my mod slots are with CHD

[tulip charm]

No you should be aiming 50%+ chc then the rest goes towards chd

[vague axle]

ohhhh ok and i get 10% from my watch lvl? aany way to power lvl that somewhere?

[tulip charm]

10% from watch, 10% from ceska one piece brand bouns, chc mods on weapons if available, coyote’s mask gives chc/chd buff and simply roll chc on gear until you max out the watch and replace it with chd

[vague axle]

man alright i rolled it for CHD xd ill start hitting the xp grind, thanks 😄

[tulip charm]

Good luck

[vague axle]

oh how much CHD should i be aming for when i get 50% CHC

[gentle lichen]

As high as you can

[vague axle]

splendid

[covert hatch]

Isnt memento best when doing a regen build

[covert hatch]

For the ar strikers, elmos or famas optimist, lefty or rock n roll, coyotes, striker everything else and chestpiece of choice(eg zero f’s or obliterate), you want striker chest for incursion

[covert hatch]

You can use it to proc od but thats a waste imo, you can try with chatterbox and hunters fury or a sadist vector

[gentle lichen]

Takes time to get stacks

[gentle lichen]

For dz not pve

[woven tulip]

Im going to assume for the named item of choice is picario's holster (the holster that has extra weapon damage on it idk the name)

[onyx sage]

no, it's not that good

also optimist isn't that good if you're running close to full red on famas, run strained or fast hands

[covert hatch]

Chestpiece of choice not named item of choice

[woven tulip]

So my plan for the build is coyotes mask, striker chest, striker bp and 2x pieces of striker. Leaving me 1 open slot for either a named item or a fenris for the AR damage set bonus.

[onyx sage]

use a ceska chest, fenris is worse

if named chest piece then you can run pristine example for perfect focus if you want to do focus playstyle

[gentle lichen]

Dying next update

[onyx sage]

i mean the shield is dead

not really focus

[gentle lichen]

Is there use cases for focus other than shield peeking?

[onyx sage]

yes, damage

focus isn't required for shield peeking

[gentle lichen]

Locked to using an 8x or higher tho?

[onyx sage]

yeah but you can shield peek with a 3.4x

or even elmo

shield peeking just helps with survivability

[gentle lichen]

Fair point but maybe of of focus's relevancy was achieved through the shield peek method

Sort of a 2 in 1

[onyx sage]

that's definitely there don't get me wrong

if you can shield peek you might as well run focus

but shield peeking being removed doesn't make you do less damage with focus, rather it makes you play differently because you can't just stay behind a corner anymore

[gentle lichen]

You need distractions though. A lot because you can't really shoot then stay in cover as that will remove focus stacks

[regal tangle]

hey, can i farm for the liquid engineer outside pvp? im trying to slap together a build with the hunter killer

[onyx sage]

there are still techniques to maintain focus stacks even then, but it gets into skill a bit more yeah

[onyx sage]

farm named caches

[regal tangle]

Can it drop in summit too?

[onyx sage]

no

[regal tangle]

dam :(

thanks

[onyx sage]

yeah just farm named caches, via countdown, GE or league, etc.

[gentle lichen]

Bloodsucker is really weird

[onyx sage]

i love bloodsucker

[gentle lichen]

First time proccing it it works normally

After the 1st bloodsucker buff every bloodsucker after it will double your armor but not refresh it

[onyx sage]

it's because it doesn't work like memento stacks, getting a kill does more than just giving you bonus armor

it increases the max bonus armor you get up to 100%, gives you that much bonus armor back (so kill count × 10% for EACH kill) and refreshes the bonus armor duration

so first kill gives you 10%, second kill gives you 20%, etc.

it's ridiculously strong and it's why they made it an exotic talent in descent

[gentle lichen]

But why doesn't it refresh? Also some amounts of bonus armor disappear before others

[onyx sage]

they should all still stay

memento bonus armor will do that tho, but not bloodsucker

[gentle lichen]

It's like they decay at the last 2 seconds of bloodsucker

[onyx sage]

hmm

[regal tangle]

can the hunter killer drop from named caches too

[onyx sage]

no

[regal tangle]

i need one with better rolls

[onyx sage]

it's either from the key boxes or from cassie

[regal tangle]

shit

[onyx sage]

can be in countdown shop too

[regal tangle]

thats going to be tough to farm for

[onyx sage]

if you've done the hunters you can buy it from cassie with credits

[regal tangle]

i have

[onyx sage]

or from countdown shop with cd credits

[regal tangle]

just finished the last 2, got every single key and im super fucking proud

[regal tangle]

i want one with crits

[onyx sage]

you have to wait for it to refresh weekly and get lucky rng

[regal tangle]

thanks

[sullen sun]

Anyone know what mods to put on a Yahall build?

[gentle lichen]

1 pulse mod that's 9.6%+

[unkempt dune]

Is armor regen like over 100k per second any good on pvp?

[wise swallow]

regen headshot is farily strong

unless that regen is coming from mostly momento

i love when people claim massive regen amounts then turns out you need full momento stacks

[onyx sage]

yeah you're right, they have independent durations

[hexed steppe]

i usually run a full unicorn mortar build with contractors, but kinda liking BTSU gloves on it lately. oc mortars are between 10-11mil when cap is stacked

[onyx sage]

that's still very good yeah

[tawdry flare]

Those tubers

[flint wave]

no strategic alignment

[flint wave]

if ur a landmark farmer that memento regen shouldn't be hard to get

[wise swallow]

no but its extraordinarily situational in a PVP context

still a big stretch to say its a 150k per second regen build

[flint wave]

rogues trying to sabotage your peaceful loot farming is pvp context

[wise swallow]

when its only that much if your at full stack

[wise swallow]

still pretty situational

if you fast travel its gone if you die its gone if you have to run for a while its gone

[flint wave]

fast traveling not allowed in the dz

That's pretty tough if you couldn't kill a thing in 5 minutes tho

[wise swallow]

go in safe house lol

checkpoint etc

im not saying momento is bad its just funny when people claim that a regen builds has x regen amount but thats only under abosolutely optimal circumstances

[shadow gorge]

hi merry christmass for all. I not remember what is called for wolf icon for make double damage come from. Someone can help me?

[cursive gull]

whats the usual offensive build people use other than FI?

[gentle lichen]

It's situations though are really good

Say you're extracting. There will be 2 ads every 10 seconds or so

Keep the trophies on the ground and when a person tries to flag up and kill you for loot just pick up trophies

60% bonus armor isn't a joke

[gentle lichen]

Better one would be ridgeway tbh. You can just throw stinger or shoot 1 bullet then chicken dance. Always works

[hexed steppe]

nah, PCA is superior 😅

[wise swallow]

ehh

not really

ive tried that before, any decent player with a crit build will still melt you

[tawdry flare]

I am way too lazy to shoot with skill builds

[wise swallow]

again this is pretty hard to simulate

getting the trophies close enough

being able to grab them fast enough

[tawdry flare]

Way too lazy when using skills

[hexed steppe]

you will be anyways though🤣 . in sync and cap both need to be maintained if you want the skilldamage

[wise swallow]

Its doable but i hate banking on something like that to survive

[tawdry flare]

Insync is lazier of the two

[hexed steppe]

needs hits every 5 seconds

[gentle lichen]

I honestly don't use this strat or the ridgeway one i just see things based on how I experienced them

I had players use the memento strat and ridgeway

[tawdry flare]

Capacitor needs to shoot every second

[gentle lichen]

Holding on such crutches tho

[flint wave]

Capacitor loses stacks so slow-

[hexed steppe]

nice thing about PCA is on demand. just need a hit before the mortar hits

[hexed steppe]

thanks for reinforcing my point

[gentle lichen]

It's going to be even better. Dttooc on that bad boy

[flint wave]

Dttoc as a third attribute should've definitely been removed from this game👴

[tawdry flare]

Still in sync shotgun is gonna be good for burst

[flint wave]

In sync mop for aok

[wise swallow]

cavalier also counters ridgeway

cavalier >>

tardi cavalier on yop

[gentle lichen]

I like to think about it in terms of pvp tho. That 12% damage to armor can be a gamechanger

[gentle lichen]

I barely find any groups that actually use it

They all use individual hazpro builds

[wise swallow]

seriously missing out

can run striker, oblit crit builds lol

massive DPS while still having haz pro

[flint wave]

How does striker have high dps when having haz pro

[wise swallow]

cavalier

[flint wave]

👴

[gentle lichen]

I also play in a solo setting so those builds don't even appeal to me

[wise swallow]

5 second downtime but you can play around that

[gentle lichen]

Flatline shotgun on dz south stairs that's who i am

[wise swallow]

shotguns are fun

my solo was always EB headshot haz pro

or foxes + contractors if no one is running fire (that never happens)

[gentle lichen]

If no cheese is happening i just run meta

[wise swallow]

for the 1% of the time

[flint wave]

fr

I cant go a conflict match without some dude running tier 6 stinger fire chem

[wise swallow]

as much as i hate it all you can really do is just counter it

[gentle lichen]

That's why tech with hive is real good

Booster = immunity from pretty much everything

Faraday for shock resist

That's for cqb tho

[tawdry flare]

Yup dttoc with Dta on ar is busted

[arctic pebble]

What are the best builds to run Legendaries solo and to farm Incursion?

[flint wave]

Solo legendary and incursion uses different builds ideally

this is a solo legendary build I would recommend for the average player(replace drone with decoy or revive hive)

[tawdry flare]

No need for blues tbh

1 blue gear is good enough

1 from memento

About 1.1 mil armour and tier 3 shield is enough

[flint wave]

Shields still pretty weak and bonus armor from trophies are no longer worth while

My source is capitol building

[tawdry flare]

We are not gonna run and gun in legendary and tier 3 shield is good enough imo

[tawdry flare]

My source is all the legendary combined

Also I use binoculars build for legendary

[flint wave]

Captiol building and manning encourage and are easier with a more aggressive playstyle

[tawdry flare]

True for every legendary the more quick you kill the better it is

[flint wave]

you can't kill if you die

[tawdry flare]

You can't kill if you don't have dmg

[flint wave]

5 blue memento can one mag legendary elites just fine with elmo I beg to differ

[tawdry flare]

With full red memento you can do 1.5 elites a mag 2 if Sniper rusher along side a regular ad

[flint wave]

yeah I've done that too

The first part of leg manning should be enough proof that maxing damage isn't always the best move

[tawdry flare]

I regulus hh it solo

[flint wave]

hhf 🥱

[tawdry flare]

Use Scorpio than

You can easily do it with elmos

Just have to get positioning right

[flint wave]

Red crit hunters fury on leg sounds insane

The thing barely does enough damage in heroic

[tawdry flare]

People have cleared legendary with Hunter Scorpio

[flint wave]

good for them

would you recommend that bs to someone trying to clear legendary?

[tawdry flare]

That is not bs also if I have to recommend it I would say go drone and turent or go full red striker or negotiator

[flint wave]

Drone turret is probably less safe then blue striker memento tbh cuz of the time it takes to clear stuff

It's not like ur invincible to a flank or an explosion with ur tech up

[tawdry flare]

Same can be said for armour build it cannot save you from getting flanked

[flint wave]

A 5 million health shield and 1.5 mil armor will and has given me the buffer I need to react accordingly to a surprise elite assault unit cosplaying as a rusher

[tawdry flare]

If you have used a full red dps build he must have been dead

[flint wave]

Kill them before they kill you is not exclusive to the overkill damage stack build

[cursive gull]

for a mortar build what exotic should i run

[flint wave]

capacitor

[cursive gull]

armor wise\

[tawdry flare]

2pcs groupo and 1pcs china light are must

[tawdry flare]

All skill tiers and demo spec no need for armour just keep a mop handy

[tulip charm]

no good exotic armor atm for that build

[gentle lichen]

I think they meant gear

[cursive gull]

was thinking of waveform but i dunno, not very well versed in skill builds

[tulip charm]

Not worth it

[tawdry flare]

Two choices
poor Men's Mortar build:3pcs empress with 2pcs groupo and strategic alignment

[flint wave]

Which is another thing I want to touch on. You only need to stack damage to a certain point in a good amount of content in this game including solo legendary

[tawdry flare]

Rich Boi Mortar Build:2pcs groupo strategic alignment 1 yellow sacrifice 1 contractor and 1 wyvern all skill tier and skill DMG

[flint wave]

You'll reach a territory known as overkill if your chasing the highest numbers and nothing else

[tulip charm]

Should be the only and correct build for mortar 😎

hope they keep that groupo explosive buff

[tawdry flare]

In pts Poor Mens' mortar build even harder than this

[tulip charm]

deadass?

what skill brand got buffed cuz i forgot

[tawdry flare]

Empress 2pcs 10% skill dmg to 20% skill dng group 15% explo DMG to 20%

Overall empress mortar hits harder than PGC Mortar on armour

And on health the difference is even large

[tulip charm]

Damn so you're telling me that +10% skill dmg makes more of a diff compared to all the other multiplicative buffs?

Thats quite funny

[tawdry flare]

Yup

[tawdry flare]

Empress also has 3pcs bonus as skill efficiency

[tulip charm]

Yeah

so current pts empress is 30%?

[tawdry flare]

So 3pcs empress is 30% skill dmg plus extra bonus fro free

[flint wave]

as if express wasn't dominant enough as a skill brand set👴

[tulip charm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[flint wave]

these devs are on something

[tawdry flare]

5.11 Express

[flint wave]

30% incoming repairs for yourselfwith the help of skill efficiency 🧠

[tulip charm]

Oh well am a happy man with mortar buff

Just hope the new gear is actually interesting

[tawdry flare]

Everyone is tbh it will make farming easier

[gentle lichen]

Grupo also getting buffed in terms of explosive damage

20%

[hoary atlas]

Airaldi Holdings is that good for Sniping ?

If use 4 Hot shot

[tulip charm]

Yeah thats the only buff I remember

[hexed steppe]

iif running a hive btsu can be good. otherwise just run all highend

[steady mantle]

Heyo, is running full dps glass cannon on legendary stronghold is fine or am I griefing and should pick smt helse

[slate wedge]

pick something else

go for striker

[inner meadow]

Where or how to get legendary guns?

[steady mantle]

I mean striker is full red too right?

[tired raft]

making build for ouroboros + striker
does momento backpack really better then cayots mask?

[flint wave]

It depends

but if ur chasing the 'highest damage numbers' then it's coyote

and it has group benefits(which you're more likely to commit to full damage anyway)

[tame crane]

In which case would Memento be more viable/reasonable than 4pc Striker and Coyote?

[flint wave]

Memento with a few blues is super strong in solo play

[slate wedge]

yes

[steady mantle]

so its still full glass cannon 0 def

[slate wedge]

nope, no glass cannon, go for 9bliterate

[cosmic ferry]

Man, Ranger really sucks a bit more than you'd think

It'd be nice if it disabled falloff dmg

You really gotta be in the sweetspot for it to feel strong

[onyx sage]

ranger has been a mid tier talent for a while

[cosmic ferry]

I have a decent roll FAMAS, but with Ranger, it's the only reason I'm using it 😦

Admittedly, it does help a bit with mid range combat

[onyx sage]

you can probably just craft another one with a better talent tbh

famas and m4 are the ones you can craft right out the gate

[cosmic ferry]

You're definitely right, I've been hanging on to my max dmg roll for far too long just because of the max dmg

I just started my talent collection too, I'm not sure if I have anything good enough yet to swap tho

[dreamy valve]

I’m in the bruiser crowd myself

[dreamy valve]

TTK isn’t so bad with the added protection

https://youtu.be/NTqNSgOkXK4?si=Aq6_KEafNDAWUxP0

[slate wedge]

love this build in PVP

[wise swallow]

vigi is interesting

[cyan drift]

🤣 guess something got unfixed

unfortunately it's skill damage and weapon handling so it's not even good as a tank backpack

and heyyyy look at that

not an MMR, that's crazy

[cosmic ferry]

Good, right? I just have to optimize?

[onyx sage]

yes

[cosmic ferry]

Heck yea

Does it make sense to recal one of the attributes to max and then optimize?

Oh I can only optimize one attribute

So basically I need to roll the talent, the right minor attribute, and one maxed attribute to get a crafted weapon to be able to be optimized perfectly

[onyx sage]

you should recal the talent, because strained is also a good talent

strained and fast hands are among the best talents for famas

and then optimize the attributes

[cosmic ferry]

But I can only optimize one attribute, right? So I'd be left with two that aren't maxed?

[brave temple]

Any1 got any good group builds for 5 directive challenging/heroics?

[wooden finch]

you can optimize all of them

you can only recal either the talent or one of the attributes

hence recal the talent, if you ever want to change it for a different build in the future

[cosmic ferry]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

[cosmic ferry]

Getting rid of tardigrade for Providence is gonna hurt

[slate wedge]

why that?

[wise swallow]

rarely ever see it

[slate wedge]

vigilamce is one of the most used talents lol

[wise swallow]

in PVP?

i never see it used with unbrekable aswel

normally spotter

[slate wedge]

not as much as in PVE but on pistol/ sniper builds and in conflict it is used pretty often

[wise swallow]

thats not a pistol or sniper build lol

[slate wedge]

can't put LLP on regulus

[slate wedge]

the build i posted is a regulus crit build lmao

[wise swallow]

hmm

interesting build nonetheless

[slate wedge]

usually it is used with liberty but i love regulus and for example in conflict this will perform better

[wise swallow]

Im too lazy to get reg lol

i was never good at sheild either

[cosmic ferry]

Santa came late

[slate wedge]

this was a clip where the enemy called me a cheater (he was using glass cannon btw)

usually i would hit around 1.15m crit headshots

i can usually 2-3 shot enemies consistently

[wise swallow]

glass cannon in DZ lol

[slate wedge]

fair point

just found that vid funny

but i got to manhunt level 44 half an hour before that

[sullen sun]

Viable?

[wise swallow]

both are good

[slate wedge]

yeah, only thing is i would use a sadist famas on the second one along with the vector

[echo oasis]

hi guys, i reach to 40 lvl some days ago an i wish to ask for someone has a recommended build to countdown for a beginner? preferably one that i can farm on countdown, i want to farm countdown and buy exotic caches and named caches

[junior surge]

Strikers is awesome for that. My recommendation is 4 pc strikers, ceska chest with obliterate and coyotes mask (alternatively grupo). Weapons can be any fast firing ar (famas, police m4) and a scorpio (great for the hunters at the start). Specializations can be demo (for tac link and explosion protection), gunner (for rof and armor on kill aswell as banshee pulse), firewall (for the striker shield), or technician (for extra skill tier and laserpointer incase you intend to use flatline).

Alternatively you can also go with a striker chest and run acs-12 (can also be named versions rock&roll or lefty) and a st. elmos. I prefer this version for heroic countdown, where enemies are bullet sponges. On challenging they die too fast to keep 200 stacks up in my experience.

Recommended skills are reviver hive and crusader shield. Can also use foam launcher or banshee pulse.

Roll everything to crit chance until you're at about 50% and then spec into crit damage.

[dreamy valve]

1.) Use Glass Cannon
2.) Accuse everyone of doing too much damage to you
3.) Profit

[echo oasis]

thx, i will try this looks great

[wise patio]

Harvest is plentiful

[static tangle]

Is umbra initiative good?

[wise patio]

#td1-build-advice

[cosmic ferry]

@hazy steeple glad to see you back online, everyone else has had to bear with my questions the last few days

[hazy steeple]

hey thanks 🙂
yeah took some time for the year's end. Although have been around, keeping the chat's tidy.

[hushed gorge]

the game is so bad
not giving me good Contractors Gloves 😭

[cosmic ferry]

I'm starting to think Overlord targeted loot wont give me Fox's Prayer

[hazy steeple]

It will, can just take some time.
Make sure to always be on Challenging or above, and then either Summit+directives or Countdown.

[cosmic ferry]

Okay, I'm on Challenging Summit and got some really good rolls for my Providence gear, but have probably been on Overlord for like 6 floors and no knees yet

I'm not really sure which directives I can handle, I feel like I can just barely play this build lol

[unkempt dune]

Is striker ourboros any good on pvp?

[hushed gorge]

its ok but not stable all the time

you need at least 50 stack

u can win a 1v1 or 1v2

50/50 chance

finally,game finally gave me this

[cosmic ferry]

Can't be mad at that

[unkempt dune]

So what would be ourboros meta pvp build that will melt players

[gentle lichen]

Switch kneepad for foxes' and lady death for ouro

That's it

[upbeat summit]

I need to get my claws on 3 weapons with the perseverance perk and 5 mods that give armor bonuses per kill but not sure where to look?

[hushed gorge]

using this rn

[woven tulip]

Is 4pc future iniative still a good healer build? Im currently using it with a scorpio for support status.

[ionic marlin]

i think its the only build for healer

[hoary atlas]

The Recruiter Build Might be bad idea

[flint wave]

wrong primary weapon

[hoary atlas]

It's Custom M416 On Wiki

[flint wave]

Not a good idea anyways

[hoary atlas]

Main was Tac50

[gentle lichen]

Armor on kill mods are USELESS

it's literally like ~1% armor on kill

[slate wedge]

he said i had aimbot

which i clearly don't

[brisk barn]

You hit two shots 👏 aimbot

[slate wedge]

i even missed on the first kill

[wise patio]

Whats up with the weed ahhh eyes

[brisk barn]

It’s aimbot 🤓 Regulus always hits the head

[severe bane]

bro where do y'all even get these exotic weapons 💀

is it like continuesly running DZ?

[vestal ibex]

Which exotic? Most are just in the general loot pool but there are a bunch that have crafting projects like the regulus you see there is an IH crafting project.

[severe bane]

That vector isn't it an exotic

[vestal ibex]

You asked about exotics here?

[severe bane]

I just asked like how they get all those exotic weapons

[gentle lichen]

You mean ouroboros?

[severe bane]

Yeah that was the name, I heard that you need a key and a chest to get it

[gentle lichen]

It's an incursion exclusive weapon

It can drop from incursion bosses with a 1% chance or open box with key by killing lovebirds for a 10% chance per week, per character

[severe bane]

ah okay ty

yeah I'm new i'm lvl 40 but I know nothing about how to make great builds etc and which weapons to use