td2-descent

[candid oasis]

3 more years of comms 😆

[ashen bloom]

Is smart cover available on descent?

[primal obsidian]

You are wrong. We are back to getting one per week. I had all 90 going into this week and just got one comm this week.

[candid oasis]

It was there on PTS but it does seem like it might not have made it into the live game. I've yet to see it and haven't seen anyone else mention they've seen it.

[nocturne hedge]

Did 2 nemesis runs since the season dropped, havent seen it yet

[opal owl]

I still somehow hope that this is not the case....

I mean, if it is only 1 this week, you have 91 of 105. Means 2 more weeks, if you get 7 per week as it was now. It would fit perfectly, 15 weeks with 7 coms to catch them all... let us have hope

[stiff rain]

did we already have max 105 comms before the 7 per week thing happened?

i suspect they're only doing it while they didn't have comms to add to catch everyone up

[opal owl]

We had 90 before

[stiff rain]

yeah i think it's just for catchup

[opal owl]

But now new players would need 105 weeks to complete, if we get only 1. That is insane

[stiff rain]

nothing's saying they won't do this catchup mechanic again

[candid oasis]

If they do another rerun of comms, they will likely do 7 per week again. One comm a week seems to be the standard for new comms though.

But the more comms they add, the more difficult it becomes to get them all, so at some point I think they will change it and make the comms easier to get somehow. Who knows though really, they don't really seem to touch descent.

[jolly cave]

@worn osprey You're looking for #lfg-xbox, GL Agent

[dusk niche]

Honestly still waiting for all the deadly sins

[opal owl]

Deadly sins?

[stiff rain]

the rotations

they're all named after deadly sins except lust and pride which we don't have

[opal owl]

Ah, yes

Hm, what talent could lust be.... seduction? If you play a female character, male enemies shoot 50%less accurate?

[stiff rain]

lmao

[meager glade]

that's not how it works. old comms you still get like 7 per week. new comms are 1 per week

pre-reset i got 7, this week's project showing only 1 and I assume it's a new comm

[red ledge]

Yes, cuz this week's comm is 91. And 92 for next week, and on and on

[meager glade]

yup

[opal owl]

Still not nice, but at least more acceptable

[mighty tartan]

Babe, it’s time for your weekly descent comm run ☠️

[stiff rain]

it's gluttony rn so no thanks

[mighty tartan]

I wouldn’t mind for them to be sold in the NSA store in bundles

Or just not lock them to weekly, just every Nemesis kill

No point anyways

[twilit whale]

Week

[stiff rain]

sir go back to tidal

[nova hemlock]

can somebody explain me these 7 sins near the talent pool? what do they do? Or are they just a set of talents?

[meager glade]

yes, different sets of talents

[worthy juniper]

There are some talents that rotate out, others are permanent.

[nocturne hedge]

Yeah the blue talents are all permanent i think

[manic dawn]

Blue doesn’t change because there are not enough blue talents in the game for them to change out. Most of them are rather useless anyway.

[graceful bane]

Any updates to the blueprint list since Y7S1 landed?

[quaint night]

How do you beat the nemesis it is so hard

[nocturne hedge]

Take the high ground, always run upstairs

Make sure to have trauma if the rotation has it

[twin geyser]

Every descent run gives trauma, regardless of the rotation

Loop 40 is waiting for us today...

[nocturne hedge]

Even better

[opal owl]

I would always recommend to take only easy or normal rooms, so you get to the Nemesis as soon as possible. And don't take stuff like turrets, sticky bombs or other high damage Skills with you. For the weapons, I would always go for lmg and AR. Get into cover on the high ground, and only shoot at the nemesis if it is moving. Get into cover as soon as it starts firing, or you are dead in seconds

[viscid leaf]

I disagree with the sticky bomb part. It's very easy to dodge and not get hit by it as long as you take cover while he shoots it. It also takes a while to explode so it's very easy to run away from it.

[opal owl]

I always try to avoid giving the Nemesis such offensive skills, if possible. But yes, sticky bombs are not as bad as drones or turrets

[dull ember]

Am I the only one who seems to have shite Descent rolls? Like my max loop is 3.

[nocturne hedge]

Might wanna try a different rotation

[blissful veldt]

is the blueprint of the "hunter-killer" in the loot pool?

[stiff rain]

no

[blissful veldt]

☹️

when exactly drop or can drop a reconstructed cache?

[stiff rain]

the blueprints are just not there

[blissful veldt]

"Is that supposed to be helpful, Earl? Because it isn't." 😒

[stiff rain]

were you looking for a different answer?

the blueprint for hunter-killer is unobtainable

idk what else to tell you

[blissful veldt]

its a completely different question. of course i want to hear a different answer

[stiff rain]

i don't understand this question

[blissful veldt]

so why you answering then?

[stiff rain]

are you asking when a reconstructed cache drops?

[stiff rain]

because i'm making an effort to answer

the question isn't grammatically correct

you're not being the clearest person in the world

[blissful veldt]

YES !!!

[stiff rain]

at loops 12, 15, 18, 25 and 30, and at nemesis

they all have different chances, reaching loop 25 and 30 will guarantee you 3 caches

nemesis is 50% chance

i forgot the chances for 12, 15 and 18

[blissful veldt]

this helps, thx

the other day i played til loop 27 incl. rogues and got 7 caches, seemed kinda random to me

[stiff rain]

going up to loop 31 will get you from 3 to 6 caches

including nemesis

if you want to grind recon caches, try to go to 31 (clearing loop 30 and exit at 31)

[blissful veldt]

ok ok got it 👍

[fierce sinew]

I am missing Striker holster blueprint. Is there any way to get old blueprints?

[nocturne hedge]

I dont think holster and chest for striker have blueprints, but could be wrong

[fierce sinew]

oh, then i have to farm for it

[dusk niche]

Some of the older sets don't have blueprints for every piece
I would love a ceska chest blueprint
It also wouldn't drop in descent

[nocturne hedge]

Man i actually would kill for that

[dusk niche]

Ikr

Can confirm, new players only get one comm a week now 💀
No catch up system

[opal owl]

lets just hope they change that back again. its just bonkers

[dusk niche]

Yeah for now the only catch up method is not introducing new comms for an entire season
But it's been like this ever since descent was introduced

[balmy finch]

i mean it can be soloed

[opal owl]

yeah, if you are a superpro. I don't have the skills to do this, sadly

[kindred yacht]

Great Descent perks in rotation currently for anyone looking for Nemesis run:

Exotic perks:
Plague of the Outcasts
Payment In Kind
Agonizing Bite
Liberty or Death
Incessant Chatter
Bullet Hell

Offensive
Allegro
Critical
Precise
Surgical
Strained
Vigilance
Unhinged
Rifleman
Close & Personal
Obliterate
Pummel
Spark

Defensive
Insulated
Adrenaline Rush
Clutch
Efficient
Entrench
Leadership
Preservation
Protected reload
Protector
Safeguard
Vanguard

[solid night]

Purple Flame in Descent, eh 🤔

[opal owl]

That would be a bit too much

[eager cedar]

Yes it's too much but the IA prefered Oneshot u with automatic rifle or shotgun at long range it's no problem 🤣

[simple warren]

the old ones only have 3 pieces available for crafting

[eager cedar]

Purple flame is not the most dangerous

[pine siren]

Please use your platform's lfg channels for finding players to group with, this channel is just for discussions.

[red ledge]

You know what would be funny? Having Exodus Gloves talent in the mode

[nocturne hedge]

Wouldn't mind that

What rotation would you put it in tho

[red ledge]

Greed. Or Wrath

[eager cedar]

haha probably good for escape seeker mine but not sure 😦

[solid night]

yeaaaa that be great but we only can wonder , Descent need some more Devs Love xd

[nocturne hedge]

The one thing i would love to see is the ability to switch weapon and skill slots

Im more comfortable with certain things being on certain slots over the other, but because of the RNG in descent i can't always have them in thw slots i want

[ashen bloom]

You know what is funny hawkster, if somebody's playing descent on a slow HD storage, if he go back to the door after entering the room, and he spawn after the enemy spawn, the enemies are not gonna be alerted, I used to make this bug on my PlayStation 4 before changing to a SSD.
But to be honest I think the idea of having the Exodus talent is pretty neat.

[nocturne hedge]

Lol i just died right before a nemesis fight cause i was blinded and shot a barrel next to myself :/

[red ledge]

Ooff :/

Well, at least with my driver downgraded to 572.16, I managed to do my Nemesis run without any crashes

[opal owl]

I guess there was only 1 new comm again?

[red ledge]

Yes. As of last week, it's 1 new comm per week

[nocturne hedge]

Yup

[quartz zodiac]

I see 2 comms in this week's project. Can someone verify it's comm 92 + 93?

[nocturne hedge]

I just did it and only got 1 comm

[candid oasis]

Yeah I saw that too, only got one comm. So must be one new and one old I guess.

[candid oasis]

Watching someone run this week, they apparently got Bridge + Amherst, comms 91 and 92. Maybe next week will be 91, 92, 93, the week after 91, 92, 93, and 94 and so on.

[red ledge]

For those who didn't catch up, I presume.

Cuz I got 91 last week, and I only got 92 for this week.

[opal owl]

Me too. So only one comm

[earnest bluff]

does descent have past seasonal blueprints?

[graceful bane]

There's a list pinned in this channel, don't think it's updated to include this season though just a heads up

[jolly cave]

@nocturne hedge Did you want to update the pin, or should someone else take a crack at re-posting it fresh?

[nocturne hedge]

I'll work on it in a few mins

[nocturne hedge]

Should be fixed now

Two questions, do the 550 blueprints include the shield splinter and hunter killer?
And, do cherished and the courier come from descent?

Cause right now im on 548 and i think i have them all

[jolly cave]

Make sure you change the heading of the post, right now it still mentions 22.1

I've got no idea, I'll leave that one for someone else to answer.

[nocturne hedge]

Lol true, what TU are we even at?

Or maybe i should write battle for brooklyn

[jolly cave]

The Year and Season number would probably help, maybe the name too.
"Crossroads Year 7 Season 1".

or however you phrase it.

Looks good!

[deft kraken]

@jolly cave ^self promo?

[jolly cave]

@deft kraken Are you asking if a text post that mentions no private channels and is just a list of the available blueprints, self-promo?

[deft kraken]

no, the guy right above with 4 images attached

[jolly cave]

The since deleted message? That was a spam bot. We get a lot of those.

It's a hazard of any big server.

[deft kraken]

that's weird. I can still see it somehow. I guess I'll restart Discord

my bad

[jolly cave]

No worries.
Yeah discord has had some serious issues lately, freezing for extended times if you tab in and out, etc.

They're compounded if you have connection issues overall, or are using a VPN, cough.

[gloomy mango]

Can talents reach a tier of 10 ?

Like what if I wanted to river hive with a skill cooldown reset chance of 100%

[stiff rain]

yes, max is 10

[stiff rain]

not how it works, skill cooldown = original cooldown / (1 + skillhaste%), skill haste being 100% doesn't mean cooldown = 0

[gloomy mango]

I meant one the talents that has a 10% chance at base to reset skill cooldowns

[stiff rain]

ah yeah that one goes to 100% at tier 10

[gloomy mango]

So at tier 10 with that talent and a reviver hive I get unlimited revives?

[stiff rain]

that needs skill kills. but not practical at high loops

yeah but you're not going to use a skill build in descent if you're rational

it needs skill kills

[north spindle]

Is there a list of all the blueprints you can get from reconstructed caches?

[pine siren]

Yes, it's pinned in this channel

[nocturne hedge]

My time to shine

[graceful bane]

Cheers for the update!

[young agate]

I did get two comms out of the weekly descent project 🤔

[twin geyser]

92/105 for me this week

[young agate]

Also one of the cleaners in descent used the new purple fire on me, wasn't sure if that was unique or not, it only happened once

[stiff rain]

cleaners everywhere do that, and yeah not sure if it's intended

[nocturne hedge]

Thought it was exclusive to brooklyn 🤨

[red ledge]

Wouldn't be surprised if it's an oversight

[fiery marlin]

Descent is simple

Pick all red cores

Pick the overwatch

Pick hide in cover increases weapon damage

First weapon pick dmr so nemesis fires slow and weak

Lvl hide in cover = more damage to tier 6-7

70% extra weapon damage

Lvl 3-4 overwatch

And allegreo

And some other talents I definitely forgot, the one that increases your damage until you take damage

Buy Hella ammo upgrade to max
Shoot like hell in all levels

At nemesis level, buy flame ammo and stun them

Profit

[nocturne hedge]

I always have shock and high velocity before nemesis lol

Regardless of what loop i see nemesis, its always those 2 options

[fiery marlin]

I didn't have any shock ammo to buy

For some reason my station only offered me fire and explosive

[nocturne hedge]

Its useless anyway

[fiery marlin]

Flame better

Long

Staggers

Shock is shorter i think

[nocturne hedge]

Nemi is straight up immune to shock, so there's that

[young agate]

I never get more than one second of effect from incendiary ammo, whereas high velocity/hollow point will keep staggering and holding the damage window open

[red ledge]

Guess I should go with high velocity ammo for next week's Nemesis run

[eager cedar]

Ur character have always the same ammo 😉

Me i have Fire ammo and bleed ammo on my 1st character

[nocturne hedge]

Wasn't always like this at the beginning

[ashen bloom]

I miss the non rotation era 😔 you could have gunslinger, vigilant, intimidate and every other dmg talent with them.

[stiff rain]

they take all the good things away

[nocturne hedge]

Good old days

[twin geyser]

Hurts to remember how awesome our builds were(

[vague cipher]

Died on loop 40 now 🤡

Just by 1 loop to get the patch

6 hours to trash ;-:

Vector was hitting 250k

Was isane fast

[stiff rain]

rip

[nocturne hedge]

Use lfg channels

[eager cedar]

always in nemesis area it's always the same 😉

[eager cedar]

sad with a friend we have make 51 for the crossroad patch 🙂

[vague cipher]

Im very disapointed

Really want that patch

But was 5 rogues

Was very tough..

[eager cedar]

yeah we play only at 2 us or solo

[vague cipher]

U guys want try with me today?

[eager cedar]

How Seeker Mine ??? We have lost for this bullshit skills

The most powerful skills using by a rogue it's the worst

[vague cipher]

Was that sniper turret who killed me

Was very good in terms of dps.. vextor was hitting 250k+

Got all reds and 2 yellows

But thst f skill….

[eager cedar]

Yep it's spawnkill or die basically but the spawn is random 🥲

sometime u not lucky at all. he have worst skills and it's over 😭

[vague cipher]

Any possibility to try today with me? Just until 41

[eager cedar]

5% of the gamer have this 🤣
It's a good challenge ! 🙂

[vague cipher]

Is the last challenge for me.. already have all commendations, all bluprints, all descent outfit

I just wont use tier 2 patch 😂

Its a shame 😂😂😂

I took 6hours and 20min to die on 40 💀💀💀

[eager cedar]

i havn't sleep again. and i prefered start a big session when I get up.

[vague cipher]

Ok dude

[eager cedar]

yes 🥲

[jolly cave]

@north kernel You're looking for #lfg-pc, GL Agent

[north kernel]

I’m on PlayStation

[jolly cave]

@north kernel You have the wrong role, in that case you'd be looking for #lfg-playstation

[north kernel]

Thanks ‘

[red ledge]

Whoever gave a tip about using high-velocity ammo against the Nemesis deserves my highest praise.

[young agate]

[solid night]

Anyone can tell what's the new pool, already in descent 😅

[twilit whale]

hit ecs and you can find the pool somewhere in the menu even in descent

[solid night]

Not when you already in decent and pool changes it stays the one you started, thanks tho

[stiff rain]

gluttony rn

[solid night]

Thanks 👍

[untold surge]

Petition: Remove talent pools from Descent (able to choose from all talents)

[jolly cave]

If you don't want to play a Rogue-lite, it's best to just not play a Rogue-lite.

[rustic bough]

I'd rather they add more talent rotations, and a randomizer, rather than them removing it.

the whole "wait for 3 more days to see what the next rotation is" should be removed.

[untold surge]

what about a custom loadout but paid stuff?

[rustic bough]

instead, we get to select one from a random selection

[rustic bough]

wdym "paid"

[untold surge]

removed totally man, select what you want not forced to play only when the rotation is a good one

[rustic bough]

you're not forced to play only the good ones.

you just choose not to play the bad ones.

it's your decision, mate

[untold surge]

well than tell me when you reach over 60 Loop with the ones that forces you to play with skills

[rustic bough]

is that for flexing purposes or

because I see no reason to go past loop 41

[untold surge]

no, the mode was more popular before the implementation of talent pools

i don't see a reason in talent pools

[rustic bough]

on the other hand, since the introduction of talent pools, we've also seen more talents get added into the pool

[untold surge]

so you say its a server problem?

or a game problem?

handling all talents to select?

[rustic bough]

my point is that it might be harder to get the talents that you want if we were to remove talent pools

especially on earlier loops

[untold surge]

can't counter skill issue there man

there is no problem with having all the talents there instead of a talent pool

you are limited

and after +30 Loop of max red talents you are capped hard in gain of more dmg

why not cap the talent at Lv10 max?

is it a balance issue ?

[rustic bough]

i mean, on paper, yeah it would be a good idea, but the chances of you getting what you want is 1 in 12 red talents (with talent rotations), whereas it's 1 in 22 (without talent rotations)

on early loops, you probably won't have enough Descent credits to reroll to the desired talent

[untold surge]

do you want all talents dropped from first 5 loops?

guess i need to quit asking for talent pool to be removed, its pointless anyway

only way the gonna do something with that is by adding a paid cosmetic attached to the possibility of making a custom loadout talent pool

[dusk niche]

Get rid of talent rotations, just make rerolls scale to the loop you're in. Why should a reroll cost 250 at loop 1 vs 250 at loop 20. It's not the same
You eventually have so much credits and nothing to spend it on

But they gave up on descent imo, it's a very good concept on paper but has some poor implementation
Checkpoints at least for solo players comes to mind

[untold surge]

if they add Checkpoints than is another Summit mode, for the mode to be popular they need to add exclusive stuff and able to choose from all talents or at least make a custom loadout

[dusk niche]

Checkpoints make sense because they added tier arm patches
I don't get them because I don't want to do a 6 hour marathon (descent gets very boring for me around the 2 hour mark), and I don't think it's a healthy practice either
Even the tier patches don't make much sense just make them based on nemesis clears each season since there's weekly audio comms

[nocturne hedge]

Or if they dont want to add checkpoints at least they can change up the requirements for the seasonal patches

[jolly cave]

As adding checkpoints are physically impossible without deleting the entirety of Descent and remaking it from the ground up (Yannick's words), you'll have to live without them.

[nocturne hedge]

Why they made descent without it in mind, i have no idea

[jolly cave]

Each previous room seems to delete itself entirely once you exit it.
It's best to stop thinking about Checkpoints, we are never ever getting them in Descent.

[rustic bough]

It's intentional.

[north spindle]

Is there a list of the blueprints that we could get from reconstructed caches?

[dusk niche]

Check pinned

[frozen radish]

really? what was the last talent added?

[rustic bough]

a bunch, can't remember them all

[nocturne hedge]

Iirc bluescreen, capacitor, liberty and a few more i forgot

Some already existing talents got shuffled around, like glass canon went from red to exotic i think

[stiff rain]

bloodsucker too yeah

[nocturne hedge]

Lots of new talents have been added since the last update to descent

It could use another shuffling

[nocturne hedge]

Just when i thought i was done, they added so many more of old gear blueprints to rec caches 😩

[dusk niche]

everytime I think I'm out, they pull me back in

[nocturne hedge]

Someone was looking for a striker chest blueprint the other day, looks like they're adding it now

[rustic bough]

Finally the 48 recon caches in my stash can be put to use

[nocturne hedge]

If you already have the blueprints from previous seasons then i dont think you'll get anything new

[dusk niche]

I wonder if those peeps who hate descent and farmed the gamepass event for recon caches farmed some extra ones

[nocturne hedge]

On my hardcore character i stashed over 20 striker holsters cause there wasn't a BP for it, looks like they're finally adding it 👀

[rustic bough]

Updated Reconstructed Caches to include all non-event Named Item Blueprints

[dusk niche]

Now the issue is if cp4s and recon caches have an overlap of blueprints

[rustic bough]

They do.

[nocturne hedge]

Was just about to say that, we should do a few control points to make sure we don't get dupes

[dusk niche]

Unless you got a ton of NSA credits, cp4s is the best bet

[nocturne hedge]

Rec caches have a bigger loot pool now than CP4s when it comes to non-attachments i think, right?

[dusk niche]

Yeah I think so

[nocturne hedge]

If there's an overlap than i wont include it in the pinned list, just the others

[rustic bough]

Pretty ballsy of them to say "all" because I'm pretty sure this still doesn't include exclusives like the Lexington and Enforcer

[nocturne hedge]

They're technically event items, right?

[rustic bough]

Enforcer isnt

[dusk niche]

Lexington was a grant

[nocturne hedge]

The event of pre ordering wony 😁

[rustic bough]

Lmao

[nocturne hedge]

And the event of happening to login at the right time

[rustic bough]

The event of being born 6 years earlier

[red ledge]

I was 24 (nearing 25) when the Division 2 released

[rustic bough]

In human years or in cat years?

[red ledge]

Human years

[nocturne hedge]

Jeez, time flies

7 years already??

[rustic bough]

Meanwhile it's like a generation for DOTA 2 and LoL

[young agate]

You gotta go to the LFG channel for that, this is just discussion of descent

[nocturne hedge]

We gotta rename this channel to something like td2-descent-NOT_LFG_ARE_YOU_BLIND lol

[red ledge]

Then you have to do the same with the game's general chat, cuz it gets the same LFG posts lol

[nocturne hedge]

Yup

[jolly cave]

This place gets a much higher frequency of LFG posts.

[young agate]

Maybe it's time to make a descent LFG channel 🤣

[nocturne hedge]

Same with td1 survival

[jolly cave]

Imagine if Survival had its own channel.

[desert vigil]

survival is such a fun mode

[rustic bough]

For some reason I hate the starting-over mechanic in Survival but not in Descent

[tacit lion]

I didn't mind starting over in Survival, but it also didn't take what feels like will be weeks of playing the mode to be able to start off well-rounded like in Descent? been dabbling in all this new (to me) stuff since I came back and idk. since it's a roguelike I've been working on armor on kill to get farther but the NSA token gains are like... low. If you play with groups do the tokens per arena increase?

[jolly cave]

I think the difference with starting over in Survival vs Descent, is that in Descent it's a simulation, so it makes sense.
In Survival, your Agent just comes across as kind of dumb, that they forgot all their gear and were too embarrassed to go back and get it.

[rustic bough]

also with Survival it's a "early bird gets the worm" mechanic. someone who knows the map better will ultimately have a more competitive advantage.

[young agate]

It wasn't that they were dumb to forget their gear, it was that they got into a helicopter during a snow squall in the first place

[jolly cave]

I am aware of what the game is, thank you.

[tacit lion]

Survival kind of ends in the same sense that failing other content in Division 1 though, you're dead. And then just groundhogged back to life

I guess you're dumb in the sense that you just get on another helicopter knowing what happened the last time you survived this exact scenario though?

[worthy juniper]

its slightly unfortunate that it takes about 28~ min to get to nemi per run.

[rustic bough]

🤔 I didn't get any new blueprints from Recon caches

[dusk niche]

Aren't you supposed to get at least virtuoso bps?
If recon caches now have CP blueprints

[rustic bough]

they're from CPs, Recon Caches only drop named item bps

[dusk niche]

Mb, got confused there

[rocky bison]

No new BP from recon caches , wth?

[nocturne hedge]

Yay. My job got easier

[thin harbor]

How many blueprints are in descent right now ? Anyone knows.

[jolly cave]

@thin harbor Check the 📌 pinned-message.

[eager cedar]

True shield splinter is removed but i have a blueprints 😂
U forgot to remove this of the crafting station ^^

[nocturne hedge]

If you have it, it stays. you cant get it anymore

[eager cedar]

i prefered hunter killer but i don't have this one not lucky 😂

[worthy juniper]

updates game to add unadded named bps.

doesn't actually do it

god I love this company.

[twin geyser]

561 \ 572 and that's all. Why is it so difficult to give us a chance to have a full set of BPs? For how many years we lack the proper amount?

[stiff brook]

@twin geyser I don't understand tbh. It's not that hard to code. You're at 561 bp and i'm at 554. I don't understand why i'm not at least at 559 since i'm only missing Hunter Killer and Shield Splinterer bps

[worthy juniper]

God why is it every time I want to do descent its always gluttony

[ocean orchid]

You got all the new ones from control points?

[stiff brook]

@ocean orchid I guess so since i'm not getting anymore from CP

[ocean orchid]

You’d think the total would be the same regardless… weird

[stiff brook]

yes exactly

[ocean orchid]

Mine has 572 total as well

[worthy juniper]

2 hours loop 11 solo. good? bad?

[candid oasis]

That is odd as I counted the remaining blueprints left for me to get (the ones added today) and I should get to 557, likely still missing 2 weapon blueprints (G28 and Police 686 Magnum), as those are still listed as S11 rewards at the crafting bench, as well as Shield Splinterer and Hunter-Killer. I also didn't play from around January 2023 until February of this year. Have you ever taken a break from the game?

[candid oasis]

A bit on the slow side, I think 2hrs solo for me gets me to around loop 20, with Wrath talent pool though. But I do kind of try to speedrun it.

Can probably aim at least for loop 15 at 2hrs

[worthy juniper]

fair its gluttony atm and I got really lucky with striker drone + kinnetic \

[rustic bough]

Offensive skills in Descent 💀

[worthy juniper]

hey it worked. I got sticky and just killed ran though the nemi

[young agate]

Offensive skills in descent are just fine as long as you can deal with nemesis without them

[worthy juniper]

can nemi hack them or something? Ik they are rare to get overall.

[young agate]

If they are roaming skills yes, however stuff like the sticky bomb is not

Plus nemesis does a terrible job using sticky bombs, will always shoot them over you when in cover and will just let it cook off instead of detonating and getting the cooldown started

[worthy juniper]

wack. ive legit never seen a skill get hacked by them

[young agate]

Yea having a drone or turret get turned against you isn't fun

[worthy juniper]

well im happy it didnt happen to me last run. i mean they only had like 20 seconds alive to do it but still

[boreal briar]

I know that ubi didn't actually get them in, but did they have a list for the new BPs from descent?

[nocturne hedge]

For reconstructed caches, they just said "added non-event named items"

For the control points:

• 6 Virtuoso (All slots)
• 2 System Corruption (Backpack & Kneepads)
• 2 Striker's (Chest & Holster)

[eager cedar]

i see nothing in the caches after updates i have 70 reconstructed 🤣

[nocturne hedge]

🤷‍♂️

[stiff brook]

@candid oasis I haven't missed a season

[candid oasis]

Hmm that is weird then. I just collected my last blueprint and I'm at 557, missing G28, Police 686 Magnum, as they're S11 rewards, Stinger LMG, Hunter-Killer, Shield Splinterer, and whatever the remaining 10 blueprints are that no one has. Any idea which ones you're missing?

[stiff brook]

@candid oasis Stinger LMG, Hunter Killer, Shield Splinterer as far as i know. Is there a list of BP somewhere ?

[stiff brook]

again, i don't understand why they are drip feeding the BPs when the game is 7 years old. I feel bad for the new players that can't get the previous BPs

[dusk niche]

Yeah there's still missing blueprints
At this point I'm not sure they will ever be back again

[stiff brook]

I found what was the problem for me. I didn't claim all the season track gear. The BP was given with the pieces. I'm at 559 now.

[stiff brook]

Yes, that's unfortunate. You'd want to facilitate the new player experience if you want an influx of new players in your game. I've been playing the division since div1 alpha but not everyone has been. It would be nice to not have fomo gear pieces such as BPs, or special events gear/Weapons (Lexington, caretaker etc...)

[nocturne hedge]

There are some old bransets that still dont have blueprints for some slots i think

Might make yet another list 😋

[dusk niche]

Hunters fury, belstone
At least those
Empress I'm not sure there's blueprints
Basically season 1-4 stuff

[stiff brook]

It should be easy to bring them in the game.
It's basically, instead of being RNG when it drops, you taking the function associated to randomly generate the values for the piece in question and give the opportunity to do them manually. It shouldn't take more than 1 afternoon of dev.

[young agate]

This is just descent discussion, you'll have to look in the lfg channel

[static tendon]

does no one do descent? 3 days of 5 hours + each in queue and in all that time ive been matched with 1 person, twice.

[young agate]

It is not a very popular mode

If it wasn't for the reconstructed caches and one-a-week comms it would probably be dead

[static tendon]

lame. i need it for the quest for final upgrade at white house

and theres no way im getting nemisis dead solo

[young agate]

I find it's actually better to solo, first off when the countdown starts you should run all the way to the left in the arena and up the stairs, there is a well defensible area where you always have the high ground to operate from cover, even when nemesis goes up there (which is rare) you can avoid contact by staying in cover around the obstacle in the middle

[static tendon]

ok

[young agate]

Don't take a revive hive as it will give nemesis a healer hive and make it way more difficult to down, decoy, riot foam, blinder firefly, sticky bombs are recommended

[static tendon]

ive never gotten past loop 2 solo and loop 3 with 1 partner and it seems the $ to get upgrades at start is shit. i have 67 after 10 hours of doing sescent

descent*

lowest upgrade is 250

[young agate]

Status effects are a big advantage, having the trauma talent to blind it gives you reliable damage windows, special ammo also helps, high velocity/high point will stagger it as you keep shooting, incindiary gives little effect

I would get armor on kill to start with, also get up to 3 stacks of preservation to help in sticky situations

Spawn camp active doors as best you can, taking enemies out as they come out of the door keeps them from surrounding you

[static tendon]

ok. hopefully ill get there eventually. seems like its ganna take a week just to get a single lowest cost upgrade that really isnt crap lol

sucks too. i kinda like descent

cant get past loop 1 99% of the time

thanks for the advice ill use it

[young agate]

Loop 1 is the hardest in some ways since you don't have a lot of power and ability

[static tendon]

i get cornered or overwelcomed from bomber drones lol

[red ledge]

I'm at least thankful that at least they added comms this season for lunatics like me lol

[pure niche]

Patch notes:

Updated Reconstructed Caches to include all non-event Named Item Blueprints.

Are these really ALL named items? Like including caretaker and lexington. Or are these counting as event-items?

[dusk niche]

Caretaker was an event (gamepass)
Lexington was a grant

[rustic bough]

Descent rotation is Wrath

[fringe adder]

i don’t understand the descent stuff can i get some knowledge about it?

[static tendon]

Im in no way qualified to explain that. However, if you want to team up and run some im down!

[red ledge]

It's a rogue-lite mode where you fight four rooms of enemies+boss room each level without any of ypur usual gear in the game

You upgrade yourself using talent consoles at the end of each room, and upgrade your ammo/grenade/armor/talent slots in the terminal at the beginning of a level.

You get a currency called NSA Tech which you get by completing a level, and doing HVT rooms.

That currency can be used to upgrade yourself at the terminal right outside the Descent door to allow you to have an easier time playing the mode. Health on Kill/Armor on Kill, Stability, HazPro, etc...

[earnest acorn]

Devs,start thinking to do some checkpoints in Descent cause is unplayable because of crashes,freeze,etc...waist of time and nobody will play....after spending a few hours a crash will waist all progress,then...why shall i play this mode??????

[jolly cave]

@earnest acorn Checkpoints in Descent aren't possible, if you don't want to play Descent, just don't.

[earnest acorn]

Nothing is impossible...i know it is an old discution regarding checkpoints in Descent being not possible to create.......maybe Ubi/Massive can hire someone competent who can......and ofcourse,if i want to play or not Descent is my decition....just asking a rethoric question

"decision"

[jolly cave]

Just move on, they aren't coming.

[dusk niche]

The checkpoints in descent is something that's asked in almost every livestream and the answer is always the same: descent wasn't designed in mind with it and it would take for whatever reasons a lot of work to implement it.
Descent has not been anywhere near a priority for them ever since release 2 years ago so there's no reason to believe that will change
It's very very unlikely checkpoints will ever be implemented
They made the same mistake just like division 1s resistance mode

[jolly cave]

To be specific: Yannick himself has said that they would need to re-build Descent from the ground-up to add checkpoints.
So when I say "they aren't possible", I mean exactly that.

[fringe adder]

i will think about it

[static tendon]

Yes! Plus I need it to finish the white house final upgrade!

[static tendon]

So how am I supposed to upgrade the whitehouse

[pine siren]

White house upgrades are from doing story missions and recruiting people from the settlements, nothing to do with Descent.

[jolly cave]

@hard bridge You're looking for #lfg-playstation, GL Agent

[earnest acorn]

Question,just to be sure if i am taking the correct talents...so,for Wrath,taking ofc Bullet Hell,Plague of the Outcasts and Bloodsucker with offensive talents : Allegro,Unhinged,Obliterate,Intimidate,Vigilance,Strained(or is better to take Critical instead)....are those the right talents?what can i change to improve damage?thx in advance for answer

[stiff rain]

where's your crit chance to proc obliterate?

you can drop vigilance here for surgical imo

[young agate]

Yea surgical is the backbone of crit builds

No sense in building crit if you aren't critting 🤣

[earnest acorn]

I've noticed that even without Surgical the Obliterate is working fine,being full all the time

[stiff rain]

not sure where you'd be getting crit chance to proc it, it'd be only 10% by default if you get the NSA upgrades so it being "full all the time" means the fight must've lasted very long for you to land that many shots

if you had agonizing bite then i would understand but without it you take too long to stack it

[earnest acorn]

lol,dont know from where Obliterate get his crits to work but it does.....the fight doesnt last long,mobs drop like they are made from paper 🙂

[stiff rain]

you wanted tips for how to improve your damage

you got one

[earnest acorn]

I tried with Surgical and without...i didnt notice any (major) deferrence

difference

[stiff rain]

i guarantee you at 31+ you will notice it

most of your other talents are covering it

[earnest acorn]

i was stopped at 34 actually

[stiff rain]

are you going full red also?

[earnest acorn]

yes..only 45% armor....just to stay alive when i got 1 explosion damage

[stiff rain]

it doesn't matter at 31+

just go full red

[earnest acorn]

sure,i can try once

[stiff rain]

anyways, try replacing vigilance with surgical. it helps you stack obliterate a lot faster, and any other crit damage buffs you got also benefit from it

that's the biggest gap you have rn

[earnest acorn]

Oki....thx v much

[stiff rain]

this is descent

[viscid leaf]

If you have Unhinged on Wrath, make sure to also get Steady Handed and Braced (some people also use Optimize). Upgrade those along with your Unhinged. No point in extra damage if you can't hit anything.

[earnest acorn]

Thx@viscid leaf,i know,Steady Handed and Braced is a must

What skills are using ?i am using Reviver Hive and Riot Foam........in Wrath and in other rotation that doesnt invole Spike talent

"involve"

[mighty tartan]

What comm number are we currently at?

[dusk niche]

93

[red ledge]

94 by next week.

[solid night]

That Armor kit bug ... 😵‍💫

[red ledge]

Yeah, it's painful

[young agate]

Darn near makes you mess yourself when you realize you've been making full armor moves, with no armor

[dusk niche]

Annnnnd it's back to sloth for 3 days ☹️

[solid night]

yeah haha

can be good pool if it had "Extra or Luckyshot" Talent so Chatterbox become usefull then all we will need an LMG

[pale hazel]

Why are the talents so bad this week ugh

[ashen bloom]

Maybe because the rotation system is bad in the first place.

[pale hazel]

Rng just hates me I firmly stand on this.

[jolly cave]

@tiny bloom You're looking for #lfg-playstation, GL Agent

[jolly iris]

Just coming back to Divison 2 after a long hiatus, havn't played Descent, is there a level requirement for the mode or can I just jump in with a new character?

[stiff rain]

level 20

[jolly iris]

Thank you!

[jolly cave]

@jolly iris What's your platform?

[jolly iris]

PC

[jolly cave]

Ta! Make sure you give #lfg-pc a go to find teammates.

[jolly cave]

@worldly void You're looking for #lfg-pc, and make sure you use English in any chanel that doesn't have "LFG" in the name.

[worldly void]

No se hablar inglés.

[jolly cave]

@worldly void It doesn't matter if you can speak english or not, use a translater. There's free ones online.

[worldly void]

Cómemela

[jolly cave]

No importa si hablas inglés o no, utiliza un traductor. Los hay gratuitos en Internet.

Don't be rude.

[nocturne hedge]

😐

[jolly cave]

If I can use a translator, then anyone can.

[wispy cape]

is the in game matchmaking dead for this gamemode?

[rustic bough]

Yes

[glossy sand]

can you use vindicator in descent and does the nemesis copy your out of descent buys

i.e. the chc skill damage

[rustic bough]

Everything that happens in Descent is entirely separate from the open world

[young agate]

No on the vindicator inside of descent itself, and no I do not believe nemesis copies your stats. I think nemesis is basically just a hunter that gets a version of your weapon archetypes and roughly copies your skills

[glossy sand]

ty

[ashen bloom]

I honestly believe that before the Ortiz robotics employees abandoned the descent facilities, they thought like: let's leave those red propane gas canisters around here.

[red ledge]

Knowing how sociopathic Claire is, I wouldn't doubt her company left those canisters on purpose

[viscid leaf]

And yet she decided to leave behind a fire gas can in the EMP lab, the only fire gas can in all of Descent.

[glossy sand]

can you get the drone variants in descent?

or the turret variants

I've done quite a few runs and have yet to encounter any variant of either skill

[red ledge]

You can, but they're not recommended as the Nemesis can use them against you when you fight it

[solid night]

Here comes the Envy 🤓

[wintry belfry]

Yo, am I missing something here or the devs have no flippin idea what cumulative means?

https://imgur.com/a/qL8zwRP

If you have base 0 CHC in Descent and this is the only source of CHC (minus talents), what is it being CUMULATIVE with? Because if it was cumulative by buying the 1% I'd get 1, by buying the next 2% now I'd have 3, and by buying the 3% one I'd now have 6%! But if each tier only applies its specific number (e.g., Tier 2 gives you 2%, not 1%+2%), then the word “cumulative” is completely misused. That’s replacing, not accumulating. Meaning this is TIERED. So at this stage I have 21% CHC or 7% CHC and the cumulative is just "I used a fancy word that I have no idea what it means"?

The question essentially is, at tier 10, I'll have 10% CHC or 55% CHC which is what it would be if cumulative?

[opal owl]

Is buying the update for increased nsa credits worth it? 250 per stage is a hefty price for it

[stiff rain]

it's not nsa credits

it's for increased descent currency (the one you get during the run to get talent rerolls and extra weapon choice etc.)

[opal owl]

Sorry, mixed that up.

I bought almost all the damage and armor upgrades, thats why I ask if spending 250 of those for a 5% increase is worth it

[stiff rain]

yeah

[glossy sand]

they should add an option to skip the 7 second countdown at the end of a run

[valid canyon]

what is up with those flamethrowers? no matter if u'r in cover or not, u go down within a sec. Dmg needs to be reduced.

[opal owl]

Same for the explosives

[valid canyon]

u can dodge explosives, not so much flames. On top of that there's always multiple flamethrowers, so even if u were to seek cover elsewhere, u still get hit

[opal owl]

Hm, right. Strangely, I barely have probs with flamethowers. More with those bomber drones and the Outcast suicide bombers

And the problem that sometimes the medkit refuses to work

[young agate]

The cleaner bomber drones have way too much health and take way too many hits to make it drop the payload, not to mention the tiny hit box

Almost makes it worth taking the jammer pulse

[glossy sand]

there's a room in the potomac loop that needs to be reworked

it's the one with the planning table in the center it is unreasonably difficult compared to the other rooms it becomes basically impossible to take cover somewhere you won't be getting shot especially on higher loops

[stiff rain]

there are just some rooms that you never go into in higher loops

simply because the map design is so bad

[wintry belfry]

So no one knows the answer to this?!

[young agate]

I avoid workshop unless I'm feeling really confident. Not a fan of cafeteria either

[young agate]

Not sure what to tell you, devs dare not tread upon this game mode

[wintry belfry]

I'm going to assume the word was used erroneously like people using exponencially for "big" because I don't feel like I'm critting 55% of the times, or anywhere near that...

[stiff rain]

it's 10% max from that upgrade

[wintry belfry]

So, like I expected, they just threw "cumulative" in there because they thought it sounded nice

🤦‍♂️

[meager wyvern]

1% per level, with Level 10 Surgical, that will put you at the CHC Cap of 60%. The definition of cumulative is "increasing or increased in quantity, degree, or force by successive additions." the value is cumulative, it increases additively. That said, I would have replaced the line with, "The increase is 1%, per level."

[wintry belfry]

1% per level in 10 levels is 10, not 60.

That's literally the difference between additive and cumulative. If all 10 levels adds itself and it's previous number in a cummulative way it adds up to 55, not 60 as well.

[meager wyvern]

1% per level from the shop, with Level 10 Surgical, that will put you at the CHC Cap of 60%.

[red ledge]

I'm currently in 541/572 for crafting blueprints.

If I recall correctly, the max is 550, yes?

[nocturne hedge]

It was max but they added 10 more so i think its 560 now

[red ledge]

Well, I've just gotten all the available blueprints from control points/weekly projects/etc...

So, I guess I have 19 Reconstructed Caches to go?

[solid night]

I got to about 552/572, rest of missing bp are mostly guns and gears bp from seasons I've missed during break from game after pandemic

[candid oasis]

561 I think, if you have shield splinterer and hunter-killer, 559 without

I have 557, missing shield splinterer and hunter-killer, and then 2 weapons from a previous season

Not sure if Stinger LMG counts towards the total either, I don't have that one

[rustic bough]

Yeah it would be 562

We gloss over the Stinger bp in the crafting bench but it's there so it counts

[abstract trail]

I have stinger, shield splinter and hunter killer and im only 561

[rustic bough]

Huh...

Welp, back to the drawing board

[jolly cave]

@candid oasis Rule #6.

[glossy sand]

just fought nem for the first time and holy

they one shot me with a punch

[young agate]

Yea, unless you are melting HVTs in seconds and have trauma to blind right away, I would not rush nemesis, treat him like the Coney Island amusement park hunter

[mossy vigil]

quick question, am I safe doing descent with a hardcore agent?

[glossy sand]

yes but you'll screw yourself if you do it at a low level bc you don't get descent caches until you reach level 40

[glossy sand]

he rushed me

[mossy vigil]

ty sir, yeah I waited till shd 60, I already got all stats so should be getting some nice exp

[glossy sand]

*ma'am

[young agate]

Yea they can move somewhat unpredictably, gotta keep them at arm's length

[analog junco]

if you go up to the left as soon as you start nemesis youre usually fine

ive never seen him come that close when fighting him from there

[untold surge]

Which would be harder to implement?

1. Remove talent pools and make all talents available to pick
2. Able to make a custom talent pool
3. Able to pick before starting a talent pool

[viscid leaf]

Custom talent pool. Also heavily unbalanced. What's stopping me from picking the 18 talents (6 for each color) and 3 exotic talents I want to only appear in a run with the custom talent pool?

[untold surge]

i don't understand the unbalanced part, the mode is endless, obvious those who don't grind or wanna reach higher loops than 50 answer

[nocturne hedge]

Assuming there's gonna be a minimum amount lol

[dusk niche]

Best option is 1, 2 and 3 are vastly inferior options if they did 1 right
Which they didn't so talent rotations exist

[rustic bough]

technically 2) already exists, talent rotations are custom talent pools curated by the developers

[glossy sand]

sadly not all pools are made equally

like gluttony

garbage exo talents

it's got like agonizing bite as the best talent

empathetic resolve is heavily situational and requires 6 loops of skill tier to be good solo when you could get better buffs with 5 red

kinetic momentum is alright but bites you in the ass with the nem

none of the other ones are even worth mentioning

it has a decent utility pool but most pools have a big portion of the power come from the exo talents and you just don't get that with gluttony

adaptive instincts is okay I guess but is really annoying to keep active especially when most enemies die in a couple bullets

based on the non exo talents the gluttony pool gets it seems like it's meant to be focused on ammo and healing replacing busy bee with pahkan's talent and empathic resolve with eb's talent would help bring the power level of the exo talents gluttony has on par with the other pools

also either replacing doctor home with bloodsucker or just adding bloodsucker to the pool would fit thematically

another thing I think could be neat is a gilded pool with overall weaker non-exotic talents but having the various different 4pc gearset bonuses as exo talents

like having it be the gearset bonus takes whatever core it naturally roles with and weaking talents in that pool to 2/3 strength with 1, 1/2 with 2 and 1/3 with 3

[main vault]

Hello. Please make it possible to return to the descent entrance. Sometimes Delta-3 crashes, and there's no way to return. My friends and I often play this descent entrance, but when I or my friends crash, we'd like to be able to return and continue playing. However, this option is no longer available. You're making the game better by fixing various bugs and glitches that dishonest players often exploit. Just make it possible to return if Delta 3 crashes.

[twin geyser]

You never come back to the place when you crash in Descent

[main vault]

You have to admit that this is stupid. When you're in a group with your friends and you reach 24 cycles and someone's delta crashes, there's no way to go back

[twin geyser]

As someone who got to loop 40 every season and crashed and delta-03d in the process - I know it well, thank you.
And we've been asking for reconnection since release

[main vault]

Why don't the developers make it possible to return to the group?
Maybe they'll hear us. 🤔

[twilit whale]

Well, devs are not here. This is a community discord.

[jolly cave]

@main vault #1380126780152614944 is where you're looking for.
@twilit whale The blue names are ubisoft/MSV staff, this is the official discord.

[pale hazel]

Are the perks good this week or should I wait til next week to see?

[rustic bough]

talent pools rotate every 3 days

it's currently Gluttony, which isn't good

[pine siren]

@verbal tiger because of the limited choice of gear and skills, descent encourages very positioning-based gameplay. Think about where you are placing yourself, ensure you don't get surrounded, use cover to cover moves to reposition when you're under threat. Manipulate it so only one enemy at a time can actually hit you. For the first loop, since it's always cleaners, remember to make use of their weakpoints, and play quite aggressively since they'll punish you for sitting back in cover if you don't move about much.

I tend to stick to pistol for the first few rooms of the first few loops so I've got plenty of ammo for the boss arena, aim for the head since pistols have a high hsd multiplier. With luck you'll get an ammo replenishing talent after a while (incessant chatter, pummel, salvage) so ammo won't be a problem any more.

[verbal tiger]

Well I’ve tried to play a couple different ways, but even with ammo not being an issue, I think I might just actually be bad lol, I’ve played descent for a good 5 hours between yesterday and today and just died over and over again, so I gave up. Thank you though 🙂

[pine siren]

That's some impressive persistence! You could view it as a training tool, taking each death and thinking about how you could have played differently (and then trying to implement those changes on your next attempt).
Or you could just go back to the regular game and get more experience, working up the difficulties to heroic and even legendary, then come back to it.
At the end of the day it's what you find fun though, descent isn't everyone's cup of tea and is by no means required to get the most out of the game.

[verbal tiger]

I was just hoping if I took out the nemesis, I would get decent rewards from the weekly quest, but maybe I’m wrong? My guild is only lvl 16 and I’m only lvl 23 so I’m not of much use since I can’t access half the guild based stuff

[pine siren]

Hmm, personally I wouldn't worry too much about that, pretty much everything you do earns at least some clan xp, just let it build up in the background and it'll reach max over time.

Descent isn't really an efficient way of earning anything except those named item blueprints

(and comms, I guess)

[solid night]

is totally a different game mode, maybe once you are aware of the main game grinding them i would say descent is nothing, but in the beginning yeah you die a lot until you know the drill. (Use your pistol on loop 1 that's the most damage weapon you have at that time + try starting the run with LMG 100 rounds)

[rich portal]

I would also say, having experience with the rest of the game helps you make some decent builds

even if the talent choice is random, once you're more aware of how everything works it gets easier

[red ledge]

You're best off asking in LFG

[gaunt shore]

i did post in there as well that chat looks to be kinda dead most of the time i recently came back to this game after a very long break so a lot of thsi is new content to me and just trying to see how things are now.

[jolly cave]

@gaunt shore Sorry, only able to LFG in the right place.

[candid oasis]

Anyone else's weekly project reset/refresh?

[red ledge]

All weekly projects?

[candid oasis]

Just descent for me

[jolly cave]

@rose notch You're looking for #lfg-pc, GL Agent

[earnest acorn]

Wrath rotation for next 2 1/2 days

[red ledge]

Yes!

Nemesis, I'm gonna kick you in the hinds

[viscid leaf]

Wrath in rotation? Yay. Time to get the loop 8 patch (I will get 7 medium rooms in a row in every run).

[dusk niche]

Good luck
Although I would leave if I got only medium on the first loop
No buffer= cancel run

[young agate]

I got the loop 8 patch 2 weeks ago without realizing it until I was starting loop 7, so just dont think about it and it will happen 🤣

[red ledge]

The thing about Loop 8 patch is that the less you think about it, the less it tries to gets away from you.

[plucky spire]

I run all blues while solo and use dps talents to make up the dps up til about loop 15

[eager cedar]

i run only red in group and solo bcz the ad Oneshot all time 🥲

[earnest acorn]

Question : while i am playing and the rotation is changing does the game continue or crash?did someoane experienced this situation ?

[shy flare]

continue nd u still have the same talent pool during ur run

[earnest acorn]

@shy flare thank you

[pine siren]

@shadow abyss this is just the discussion channel, try #lfg-playstation

[shadow abyss]

Mybad

[teal pike]

why can't I find an lfg-descent channel? Is there one?

[jolly cave]

@teal pike It's tied in with #lfg-pc

Not every mode has its own, just the ones that require more coordination.

[solid night]

Talents failed to stack anyone face this bug ? i choose 7th stack on magazine which was already stacked at 6, after selecting stack was not added but Console access was no more.

[copper goblet]

Anyone knew what rotation currently available is?

[solid night]

Wrath

[young agate]

Turned to gluttony 4 hours ago

[shy flare]

ah worst pool

[proven drift]

Not to self. If descents loop is ending in 10 mins. Don’t play it bc it will only give you 1 exotic choice. I played wrath got bullet king. Beat nemesis. Loop 10 no exotic choice. Died on loop 27.

[rustic bough]

Wdym ending in 10 mins?

[proven drift]

Each pool is 2 - 3 days long. It shows the timer on the descent door.
Well I went in with 10 mins left

[rustic bough]

Oh that's interesting, I've never had that issue before

[pine siren]

@sonic wadi the channel for group-finding is #lfg-playstation

[gloomy edge]

Someone remind me why explosive barrels kill me instantly but only scratches normal enemies?

[red ledge]

That's why you always shoot them before you deal with the enemies

[viscid leaf]

If you run glass cannon with no armor, then it will kill you instantly. More armor will save you, but if you plan to go beyond loop 30 then you're better off getting a red core.
I do wonder if the explosion from the barrel is a flat rate damage against the enemies or percentage based on their health. Most likely flat rate as well as the bleed that accompanies it.

[gloomy edge]

I didn't have Glass Cannon on, and I was at full armor anyways.

Just really pissed that they haven't removed these things

[rustic bough]

Did you lose one-shot protection?

[young agate]

I'm guessing you took a bunch of damage then the bleed got you?

I get more upset at how far away I can be from one and it'll still get me

[solid night]

There goes Sloth Again 🙄

[rustic bough]

yoooo it's Sloth?

[red ledge]

Mmm, Sloth. My favorite

[ashen bloom]

Hey guys what are your thoughts about a CHC and CHD build on descent?

[shy flare]

I always do that nd some hs talent

[analog junco]

good in that one talent rotation

think its wrath?,

[viscid leaf]

It's practically a required build for Envy considering all of the red talents and most exotic talents in there are mostly for crits.

[jolly cave]

@earnest acorn English only on the main server, thanks.

[cobalt mauve]

Guys can anyone tell me why descent is important and how should i play it ?
It will be helpful for me

[rustic bough]

Descent is highly recommended if you are looking to fill out your crafting bench. Most Named Item blueprints come from Reconstructed Caches rewarded through Descent.

[earnest acorn]

@jolly cavesure....but,sry,when i wrote in a different language?

[ashen bloom]

bro, bosses are dumb with poison gas sometimes, he started searching for me when he lost line of sight of start dying by the poison clouds lol

[cyan totem]

Try here https://discord.com/channels/477210626742288384/556242679122624523

[bold finch]

Anyone know if it's still sloth? Not near my console rn

[neat lintel]

It is

[bold finch]

Ty

[coral fox]

Anyone happen to know the next 3 decent talent pools ?

[rustic bough]

Nobody knows

But i can absolutely tell you that the next rotation is not Sloth

[coral fox]

Ah i thought they were on a set rotation
Cheers for the reply

[rustic bough]

It's random

[magic eagle]

can you do descent as a group?

[stiff rain]

yes

[magic eagle]

is there a lfg for it or just type it in normal pc lfg chat?

[jolly cave]

@magic eagle Just regular #lfg-pc is good.

[rose notch]

Does anyone know if they will update this game mode, its just a massive time sink with very little reward.

[dusk niche]

We don't know, the developers haven't hinted at any changes

It could happen one day, it could not happen

[twin geyser]

Tried playing descent 3 times - all the times NOT A SINGLE EASY ROOM AT first 2 rooms in a row

3 rooms = hard and 2 mediums

[rustic bough]

When life gives you a chance at loop 8, you complain XD

[twin geyser]

Nah, I do it in the first 2-3 days 🙂

[grim creek]

I'm always doing hard room because I feel the nemesis fight is easier (and more reliable)

[red ledge]

It's Gluttony. Yuck

[forest pewter]

Figured I would throw this out there for others who don't know yet. This update added 5 new blueprints. So if you have reconstructed caches saved up and were at max prior to yesterday then you can get 5 new blueprints today.

[fresh ivy]

what is better on decent aiming to complete the run or just farm the currency for the caches?

[pine siren]

There is no 'complete' in descent

Unless you're just farming nemesis

[fresh ivy]

defeat the nemesis XD

[red ledge]

Farming the currency for the caches.

But if you're into collecting audio logs, you can do weekly Nemesis runs to collect them.

The mode is endless.

[pine siren]

You get more currency the further you go, so if you want to farm it you'll likely be best of going deeper than nemesis, as deep as you can get

[fresh ivy]

i want those blueprints lol

but mostly with matchmake its dont go well

[nocturne hedge]

oh boy

[shy flare]

Better to do it solo or with a friend

nd u will gain experiense to play it nd u will be more confortable in the futur

[nocturne hedge]

do you know what those items are?

[dusk niche]

Purist
Goalie
Rusty
Lud
Born great

[graceful bane]

How do you go about figuring out which blueprints are available from recon caches?

[nocturne hedge]

you open caches lol

[graceful bane]

[young agate]

Check the pinned message

[dusty hawk]

would Empathic Reslove and Doctor home Synergize well in descent?

[stiff rain]

not really because in groups everyone builds dps

[dusty hawk]

i solo, so i guess i'll find out? XD

[dusty hawk]

also, is descent talents on a completely different timer?

[young agate]

What do you mean?

[forest pewter]

Sorry just saw this reply. It should be Purist, Goalie, Rusty, Lud & Born Great. I think those were the only ones.

[forest pewter]

I have a question for those of you who are pretty good with descent. I've solo'd it most of the time I've done it. I've always tried to reach past loop 40 for the patch just to say I did it. The highest I got was 37 on 3 different occasions. Is there any trick that can help past those levels past 30? Everything past that feels like it one shots you if you aren't careful.

[young agate]

Do you take all weapon damage? Most of the guys folks in here that go above 40 seem to only take weapon damage

[forest pewter]

I didn't. I think I did around 1/2 blue 1/2 red one run. The other two I did 2/3 red 1/3 blue

[dusty hawk]

when i saw my screen for talent pool i had 4 hours left when i asked, i assumed it'd be on a weekly timer of when it resets for different talents?

[young agate]

Ah yes they are on a 3-day timer

[dusty hawk]

ah, thanks. that's good to know i should be looking at the pool every 3 days

[stiff rain]

as revelation said you really just want to take weapon damage. surviving on 31+ is just about whether you picked the right spot to camp the door and whether you can contain the spawns without them leaking

[nocturne hedge]

Blueprints for Shield Splinterer, Hunter-Killer and Hunstman are available to be purchased from inaya

[viscid leaf]

Sounds far too good to be true, but can confirm this.

[untold plume]

not there for me

[fringe dome]

i dont see them

[viscid leaf]

Saw the Hunter killer there and it costs nothing. Already had the Shield Splinterer and don't have Huntsman yet so I can confirm one.

[red ledge]

You're only able to buy the blueprints if you got the items from the Hunter crates

[candid oasis]

So I guess with stinger LMG it's now 568 blueprints? The remaining 4 are 2 chests and 2 backpacks, what do we think those might be?

[stiff rain]

do you know if it's any brand/gear set in particular?

or narrowed it down somewhat?

i'm guessing it's something to do with umbra backpack and virtuoso

unless they never counted in that 568

[candid oasis]

Yeah no idea really, there are event items like festive delivery backpack but i dont know if that would have a blueprint or not

[stiff rain]

there'd be a lot more than 4 then

so i doubt it

[forest pewter]

Ok. I may try it again when the talent pool is good. I'll do all weapon damage. And, yeah the camping spot is the rough part for me. Plenty of time I've selected the wrong door and they leaked out before I could move in time. For the skills I usually went with revive hive and shield drone in case things got bad.

[stiff rain]

are you playing solo or grouped? grouped is the best way to go to high loops, even duo is a lot better than solo

[forest pewter]

Solo sadly. Never had friends who enjoyed it. So i've been soloing it which is how I made it to 37.

[stiff rain]

depending on your timezone, we got some people (and me if i'm free) who can get you to 41 for the patch

[forest pewter]

I'm in US. EST as well. That would be pretty cool. I know enough about it to be dangerous. I figured it might be easier with 4 but I wasn't sure about the scaling

[stiff rain]

scaling is dangerous at 4 man but having 4 people camping a door each balances it out. it only gets rough during the early loops until we get enough damage.

i'm gonna get back to you if we have enough people

[forest pewter]

All good. We can always try to schedule it for tomorrow instead. That would be better for me

[stiff rain]

tomorrow is no go for me either, has to be weekends because work is hungry

[forest pewter]

That works for me.

[forest pewter]

I'm assuming that would depend on the talent pool for the weekend as well.

[stiff rain]

indeed

[forest pewter]

Am I the only one who hates the talent pools? I know Envy is going on for the next 2 days so no telling what it would be this weekend.

[stiff rain]

i hate it too dw. personally am fine with any pool except gluttony if we're good for this weekend

[forest pewter]

Cool. I'm curious. How long does it take you guys to normally get to loop 40+? Just solo it was taking me 5+ hours to get to 37

[stiff rain]

5 hours is worst case for us, usually we're a bit faster

[forest pewter]

Wow ok. And, i've never done 4 player nemesis fight so that will be new for me. I can handle him no issues solo. So, just a heads up for that part

[stiff rain]

it'll be easy dw. just follow our instructions and builds and you'll be camping doors easily

[forest pewter]

Cool deal man. Looking forward to it.

[opal owl]

Is there something special on level 40? I always finish after the nemesis after loop 4 or 5

[dusk niche]

Arm patches

[forest pewter]

Just arm patches. You get them every 10 levels. Otherwise, I am like you. I farm it each week for the comm then move on. But, I always wanted to get the Loop 40 patch. Wouldn't mind doing it each season honestly.

[abstract trail]

I'm at 562/572 and nothing drops BPs anymore and I just finished a descent run. Who has 568?

[candid oasis]

Presumably people who have the Stinger LMG blueprint. I’m at 565 but I’m missing 2 gun blueprints from season 11 and stinger LMG

[abstract trail]

Wait. I have the stinger and all all the descent and hunter bps

Only at 562.

[viscid leaf]

I'm at 566. Don't have Stinger lmg and missing the Huntsman ar because I haven't killed the hunters yet. According to the bench, there are 2 chest pieces, 2 backpacks, and an AR missing.

[stiff rain]

i think that lines up with krismate

wait no then you'd be at 567 instead of 568

hmm...

[viscid leaf]

566 plus Huntsman is 567, with the 2 chest, 2 backpack, and ar makes 572. The Stinger doesn't register as a number on my table. It shows 19/19 for LMGs even though I don't have Stinger and it shows it as locked.

[stiff rain]

i need to check again, not sure if i have stinger blueprint or know where it came from

[forest pewter]

Stinger blueprint came from the recuit a friend if I remember right. I have it in my blueprints.

[stiff rain]

i see

[forest pewter]

I'll check my blueprints when I get home. I think I'm basically at max minus what the new season weapons/armor are since they aren't released yet.

[forest pewter]

I'm showing i'm at 567/572. To my knowledge i'm not missing any blueprints. Not sure what else there would be.

[stiff rain]

wait. thinking about inaya blueprints just reminded me of hunter killer blueprint

[forest pewter]

Yeah. I got Hunter Killer and Shield Splinter from the reconstruction cache when they were dropping in those a few months back. I already got those plus the Huntsman AR print. I think the only ones left are from the new season...plus the exotic blueprints that aren't in the game yet like Birdies and the new mask.

[stiff rain]

makes sense

[abstract trail]

My lmgs show 19/20 and I have stinger BP

[forest pewter]

lol Dang. I just signed off. Let me sign back on and see what mine says. If i have 20/20 i'll list out what they are

[abstract trail]

List ARs too if you can.

Im missing 3

[forest pewter]

Ok. I do show 20/20 of LMGs. They are.... Big Show, Black Friday, Carnage, Cricket, Dare, Good Times, New Reliable, Quiet Roar, Rusty, Sleipnir, Tabula Rasa, The Stinger. That's the named. Do you have all of those?

[abstract trail]

Its the rusty im.missing

Is that in descent?

[forest pewter]

Yep. And, it was just released this week if I remember right

[abstract trail]

I opened 7 recons today and didnt get shit but grown great. They screwed me.... lol

Went all the way to loop 31

[forest pewter]

lol And, ARS I show 26/27. They are... Born Great, Burn Out, Glory Daze, Goalie, Huntsman, Invisible Hand, Kingbreaker, Lud, Manic, Mechanical Animal, Pyromaniac, Savage Wolverine, Shield Splinterer, Test Subject, The Drill, The Railsplitter.

[abstract trail]

Lud, manic and ?

What could the last one be?

[forest pewter]

I would have to look but could be a gun from this season or a previous one they haven't released yet.

[abstract trail]

And what are you on Backpacks?

Im 40/42

[forest pewter]

Same. I know there are...I think two backpacks new with this season? So they aren't in the pool yet

[abstract trail]

Same for chests?

[forest pewter]

Yes

[abstract trail]

Is the purist in the pool?

Missing one smg

[forest pewter]

If it's from this season then no. And, I'm showing 18/18 submachine guns.

[abstract trail]

List please?

[forest pewter]

Cabaret, Cold Relations, Dark Winter, Emeline's Guard, Grown Great, Purist (Answers that question), Safety Distance, Swap Chain, The Apartment, The Grudge,

[abstract trail]

Lol. Ok so yeah.

Thats the one

[forest pewter]

I know they stagger these named blueprint releases.

[abstract trail]

So max in the pool is 568?

[forest pewter]

I'm at 567/572. I don't think you can get higher than that unless i'm crazy

[abstract trail]

Yeah that's it. Those 4 you listed will put me at 567

[forest pewter]

Cool deal. Still missing some exotic blueprints like the Birdies and the new mask from this season

[abstract trail]

I wonder why they are in descent

And not CP

[forest pewter]

You mean the named ones? They have always been locked behind descent

[abstract trail]

Yeah youre right. Ive lost track of where to get them. I just grind. They totally only gave me today..I thought I was done at 563

4 hours wasted down there 🤷🏾‍♂️

[forest pewter]

Hahah. Yeah. It's a carrot on a stick. If it wasn't for those I don't know that I would have tried Descent. It's not a bad game mode. Only thing I hate is you can't save what loop you are on and come back later if you want patches and stuff.

[abstract trail]

And they are super stingy with nsa tech now

[forest pewter]

Really? I bought all the stuff from the vendor last year so I've just been letting it build up. lol I haven't paid attention to it.

[abstract trail]

I used all.mime on exotics to expertise stuff.

[forest pewter]

I know boss rooms are a good way to boost it. The boss rooms provide some extra NSA stuff

[abstract trail]

Figured expertise for guns i use was better than a blueprint I'd never craft.

[dusty hawk]

only reason i run it now is for them blueprints

[abstract trail]

Welp only 4 left. Ill get them next run

[forest pewter]

That was why I did it too. That and the comms each week. Eventually, I got a desire to at least do loop 40 one time.

[abstract trail]

Yeah I have two 40 patches and dont care to ever do it again. Lol

I leave at 31 every time

[dusty hawk]

i solo it for those, so i'm not concerned atm for patches or other commendations in there atm

[forest pewter]

Lucky dog! Solo the highest i've made it to is 37.

[dusty hawk]

highest i got so far is 19

[abstract trail]

Envy is a really good rotation to solo. Super easy

[rustic bough]

I've got every tier 1 patch since the inception of Descent

[forest pewter]

1-29 isn't to bad. It feels like solo the scaling messes up 30+. Enemies basically can 1 shot you past there.

[dusty hawk]

i honestly probably fumbled my way to 19 and just got bored

[forest pewter]

Yeah. Envy i've had good luck with. Still, all it takes is one mistake.

[abstract trail]

Its always the lack of explosive resistance. Fckinh black tusks drones get me every time

[dusty hawk]

one of the many reasons i asked if Doctor Home and Empathic Resolve would be a good combo XD

[rustic bough]

There is definitely room for error in every encounter, it's how you recover from it that determines the outcome

[abstract trail]

Or the dog

[rustic bough]

Most people dont, as they've never been in a situation where shit hit the fan

[forest pewter]

I feel like I've done pretty well recovering. But, at the same time, I know those deaths were my mistakes. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. Congrats on getting the T1 patches each time. I didn't know they were a thing until about a year ago. Then I started practicing just to try to do it. I do feel like it has made me a better player honestly.

[dusty hawk]

i'm just sad they capped the skill tiers to 6

[rustic bough]

It does, to a certain extent

[forest pewter]

Did you solo your Tier 1 patches? Or do it with a group?

[dusty hawk]

i'd agree. especially the hard rooms. Makes you put your head on a 360 swivel

[rustic bough]

Usually with 1 or 2 other players. Makes it so much faster.

[forest pewter]

That seems to be what I am understanding now after chatting with a few people. A guy in this chat was nice enough to offer to try to help me out with it this weekend if the talent pool is good. Crossing my fingers it is so I can give it a shot.

[rustic bough]

yeah that's the guy I usually do it with XD

[forest pewter]

Hahah. Well damn! There you go then.

[stiff rain]

huh... interesting

[soft stream]

Do you get a guaranteed blueprint each run?

[stiff rain]

how far do you go?

the first actual 100% guaranteed reconstructed cache is at loop 25

[dusk niche]

50% chance for beating nemesis

[rugged scroll]

yeah i get it most of the time after beating nemesis

[formal venture]

right now i capped out at 562/572

played division 2 since WONY came out

so i probably dont have the 5 that others got from previous seasons

[stiff rain]

season 1 is when wony came out, you probably missed a few seasons

[fresh ivy]

what i dont understand is why the named blueprints are only behind descent why not weekly legendary to

i would then account wide 1 time

[stiff rain]

the simple reason is because they want to make descent worth doing

[fresh ivy]

make it then easyer then what it is now

[young agate]

That would be great, but they can't even seem to add back the ability to see which talent pool it is from the mini map let alone any other adjustments

[rustic bough]

It is so easy, in fact, too easy that the first few loops are too boring

[rustic bough]

Why, just use the matchmaking tab to see the talent rotation

[young agate]

I'll have to check that out

[rustic bough]

Yeah they moved it there for some reason

[young agate]

Still would be great if they displayed it with everything else when you hover over it on the mini map again

[rustic bough]

Yeah

[fresh ivy]

they need to change the blueprint pool not only descent every blueprint is from the projects or cp3/4 why must be the named exclusive descent

[misty star]

Guys, how many plans are there in total?

[fresh ivy]

100+

[rustic bough]

113 i think

[fresh ivy]

cauze i have everything from the open world

or give a blueprint from every 5 loops or something

weekly based and account

[stiff rain]

i mean you're basically asking it to be easier at this point, which is not really what everyone can agree on

if devs intended it to be this hard, then it will remain hard

[fresh ivy]

They nerfed most things cauze people couldn't clear it or what ever like legendary's

[stiff rain]

they nerfed legendaries back in tu9

they've not nerfed them since then

[fresh ivy]

Thats what i mean why would they nerfed that its the hardest content beside the raid 👀

[stiff rain]

idk

we're not devs

but again, if devs intended it to be that hard, then it remains hard

[fresh ivy]

In my eyes make descent then that easy

[stiff rain]

there's no other reason to it

then put it as feedback

not everyone would agree to make it easier but we're not devs either so

[dusty hawk]

only thing i'd like changed with descent is release the reconstructed caches to maybe daily/weekly project rewards as well. about only reason i'm currently running descent is just for those

[fresh ivy]

I want to run the descent but matchmake is worse and solo im not feeling it

[dusty hawk]

can try the LFG channels here and try to put together a premade group and go in
i just solo since i don't fully understand it and i'm only interested in the caches honestly

[frozen harness]

I used to despise Descent, then I started doing solo runs. I have a new appreciation for the mode, which has no bearing on my opinion of how anti-player the system is in general.

My advice for newer players (in general or to Descent) would be to do short runs. Rush to Nemesis, down him, check for HVT rooms in the next room of the new loop, and either do it if you see one or exit if not. Repeat for each level 40 character you have once per week. Then when you have a good understanding of the mode, maybe start working in some longer runs for more currency. If I was going to do that, I would say to partner with one person to make it easier.

Anyways, there's a lot of nuances to the mode. It is not like open world or anything else in the game. Some of the basics don't necessarily apply to the mode pre-Nemesis encounter.

[forest pewter]

I agree with pretty much all of this. And, it's how I got into Descent slowly over time. The biggest change if they ever brought this back in future games would be to allow you to save where you are if you haven't died and continue later to allow breaks. If you die then yes reset to loop 1. But, the ability to at least save your progress would be very nice if they brought it back in future games.

[dusk niche]

Developers have already said save points require a big amount of work to implement as descent was not designed with it in mind
And given the lack of any meaningful update to descent for quite a while now I doubt it'll ever happen

[forest pewter]

Right. It's why I didn't mention it for Division 2. Any future Division game is what I was referencing. If they ever decided to bring it back for Division 3.

[dusty hawk]

i think Bishop Black is thinking in terms of Div 3, build a system where we can go through whatever loops we can muster, decide to take a break and go back to it later
akin to running Summit maybe?

[forest pewter]

Yeah. Similiar to that. They can keep the whole if you die go back to loop 1. But, at least, give you the chance to stop at loop 20 after some time and go "I'll continue later today." but if you come back and die later in the day then sure go back to loop 1. It still keeps the danger aspect of it without forcing you to dedicate a lot of hours at a time. It might allow more people to try it.

[dusty hawk]

i would even say entice them to run it if it was in game

[forest pewter]

Yep. Just doing the nemesis runs for the blue prints got me interested in it. That's what made me push for the higher loops for fun. The only thing I hated as a solo Descent player was the time sink I would have to dedicate in 1 sitting to attempt the really high loops.

[dusty hawk]

oh one thing i wish we could speed up is the when you die, i just want to go back to DC immediately instead of waiting the few seconds of my summary then holding my G key to return to DC bit

[nocturne hedge]

They already made getting blueprints a lot easier than what it was initially

[dusty hawk]

what if they gave us 150% HSD and Determined + headhunter from the start?

[nocturne hedge]

That i can get behind

And some weapon handling

[dusty hawk]

i'd rather have Golden Bullet always active

[nocturne hedge]

Rookie mistake. Should have gone with reanimated. Much more headshot damage

[nocturne hedge]

Pairs well with this

[dusty hawk]

i noticed with my harvest pistol chainkiller build XD

though, i would find it amusing Reanimated + golden bullet both active (> <)

[nocturne hedge]

Servers would sh*t themselves probably

[dusty hawk]

and then some

[rocky bison]

Any new bluprints added to the recons ?

[pine siren]

Think they added this season's named weapons, plus Inaya now sells the hunter unlocks

[rocky bison]

saw they added some to CPs as well

[pine siren]

Yeah, some previous season ones to the lvl 4 CP caches

[rocky bison]

Born great - Rusty - Lud - Goalie - Purist

have been added to recon caches

[rocky bison]

@nocturne hedge

plus
Shield Splinter
Hunterkiller
Huntsman

via inaya

[dusty hawk]

oh?

[nocturne hedge]

Well technically not from rec caches, not anymore at least

[dusty hawk]

i was just thinking
would be neat if while in descent we can buy brandset pieces or gear set pieces O_O

[viscid leaf]

That would just make Descent into open world content.

[dusty hawk]

my thinking is we visit that station for upgrades you know where we buy our 3 offensive, defensive, utility talents? put a random brand/gear set pieces in there for a hefty price

[viscid leaf]

That would still just turn Descent into open world. Most brand set attributes are already in Descent as the basic talents like 10% headshot damage. Only a few gear sets would be useful and a couple would be very op (striker and hotshot).

[dusty hawk]

i'm also not thinking you pay say 3k credits and you have full on striker build. like you get random pieces. so maybe loop 30ish you finally complete the striker gear set kind of thing
as is i only want to fight the nemesis and not play again really

[soft stream]

Is greed terrible to play on?

[amber schooner]

nah its a good one TBH

[stiff rain]

it's good

[soft stream]

I feel like the reward isn’t worth the effort

90+ blueprints on a 50% chance from the nemesis.

[stiff rain]

that's why you go high loops

[rocky bison]

true but there are

Born great - Rusty - Lud - Goalie - Purist

[frigid pebble]

for descent is it worth chasing good starting guns or just take what you get and say we ball

[delicate idol]

@frigid pebble i mostly just use pistol

[frigid pebble]

how?!?!

much better gamer than i

[delicate idol]

focus on reds for 1st couple loops to get strong and then its easy

[frozen harness]

As long as you get one decent weapon by Nemesis, you'll beat him no problem. Don't really need anything as long as you're patient. Take whatever as long as it's not garbage lol. Prioritize getting 2 skills that don't make Nemesis a nightmare.

[frigid pebble]

is there anything worthwhile from grinding descent? i was gonna go for the outfits but gah damn it'll take forever

[frozen harness]

The named item blueprints if you want those.

[frigid pebble]

🤔

are the named items unobtainable elsewhere? (not the blueprint. the wep itself)

[frozen harness]

Yes.

Having the blueprint just alleviates the need to have to farm them. Good for those wanting to craft items, especially if they're trying to get unicorn stats (like all yellow on a Sacrifice) on them.

[frigid pebble]

are they a direct reward or from the descent vendor?

[frozen harness]

You can get blueprint caches directly from playing Descent. 50/50 chance on Nemesis, then I believe you have chances to get an additional one every X loops. Think it's 5 or 10. You also earn currency from Descent that can be used at the vendor to purchase additional blueprint caches.

[frigid pebble]

okok

it'll be something to think about bc the blueprints seem attractive BUT descent is one helluva grind

i wish the initial options for weapons when entering could be rerolled without having to leave and reenter

is it called reconstructed cache?

also also is the vindicator worth it?

[frozen harness]

Yea, those are the blueprint ones.

[stiff rain]

i can't post in here, but in #ask-td2-community i posted the precise loops at which recon caches can drop

along with their chances

[rugged scroll]

u actually don't need to take initial weapon playing pistol for first 2 loop and taking weapon from 3rd loop makes more sense cz later loops has better stats weapon

[dusty hawk]

i try to mostly, but sometimes i change it up and buy the special bullets before the arena for primary (secondary if i got one) otherwise my pistol and go have fun XD

so the 50% chance of the blueprint on nemesis. will it show up in chat or would i have to visit the crafting table to see if i got it? or will it literally be the reconstructed cache once i leave?

[delicate idol]

@dusty hawk you get the caches after you leave

[dusty hawk]

I understand that part, just wondering how the 50% blueprint from nemesis comes to us

[viscid leaf]

At the bottom left of your screen when you exit, it will show what caches you earned such as Simulation cache, Crafting cache, or an Exotic cache. It'll show up there as Reconstructed cache. If you are full on cache space, then it will go into your mailbox.

[dusty hawk]

I already said I understand that part.....

So, the 50% chance as blueprint is the reconstructed cache then?

[pine siren]

Yes. When you open the cache and it lists the contents you got, you'll see the blueprint

[young agate]

I always take the first weapon to burst damage whatever door I camp, then switch to pistol when I've got the room under control

[copper goblet]

Got anyone a chart for nsa tech per random boss / arena?

[dusty hawk]

here i was holding back about if there can be any known patterns where one can get exotic talents
like if you go a mix of difficulties to get them or if it's purely RNG

[frozen harness]

Pretty sure it's pure RNG. I've got 3 in 4 loops and I've also taken til like loop 10 to get 3 lol.

[young agate]

I got to loop 16 with 1 exotic talent once

[viscid leaf]

I'm pretty sure someone had the equation for nsa credit earnings for boss rooms and the percentages for exotic talents. Might've been @rustic bough

[stiff rain]

it's just a regression, not that nice of a formula

[rustic bough]

UwU

[analog junco]

UwU

[dusty hawk]

Ain't that something. Having a good run my interwebs goes out

[nocturne hedge]

Exotic chance changes based on current loop:

1 100%
2-3 5%
4-6 25%
7-9 35%
9+ 40%

Copy pasted this from someone ages ago but im pretty sure its still accurate

[mighty tartan]

How many weeks left for the new comms?

[nocturne hedge]

We're on 98/105 now

[mighty tartan]

Ooh nice 2 more months to go

Then I’ll be free again

[dusty hawk]

i was surprised logging back in when my internet came back and my 20/20 caches was full and had 4 caches in special delivery in my stash. i thought for sure what i did in Descent and internet going out i'd just log back in to nothing

[nocturne hedge]

"again"
until they add 20 more the next season

[young agate]

My body is a machine that turns descent runs into comms

[nocturne hedge]

hell yeah brother

[bold finch]

Anybody know if it's still Sloth? Away from my console rn so can't check

[earnest acorn]

Yes,in about 3 hours will change

[bold finch]

Bet ty

[light badge]

I'm creating a fresh new agent dedicated for descent alone. Just found out it's locked till lvl 20. When did they change this?

So if there are 2 player nemesis spawns 2 enemies?

[delicate idol]

yes

[light badge]

Damn. Now I kinda wanna fight 4 nemesis enemies

[delicate idol]

certain skills to not use till after nemesis

[pine siren]

@light badge @delicate idol #lfg-pc is the place to find groups, helps keep these discussion channels free for information sharing

[light badge]

Oh my bad.

[delicate idol]

i am sharing info

[light badge]

Is there someplace I can check to see the current talent pool? Not near my PC.

[delicate idol]

sent you talant pool

[dusk niche]

It's wrath

[bold finch]

Is max blueprints at 565 now?

[forest pewter]

Should be 567 now.

[bold finch]

Ty

[bold finch]

I'm at 565 now. I know I'm missing the skill from Brooklyn not sure what else

[viscid leaf]

If you're missing the skill then there's a high chance you don't have Huntsman blueprint for killing the hunters at Brooklyn.

[bold finch]

I don't have that either. So that's the 2 I'm missing. Ty

[red eagle]

Im a returning player but got back used to everything i can not for the life of me get descent done ive gone through to many random teammates

Just to get absolutely obliterated as soon as we get in the nemesis room

[earnest acorn]

Nice,thx Ubi/Massive...crash at loop 18....excellent maintanance and updates...P

[tacit lion]

Is descent supposed to be vs the cleaners all the time?

[delicate idol]

no

[shy flare]

u can have all factions

[tacit lion]

Are they locked beyond later loops? Iol...

[pine siren]

First loop is always cleaners, then it opens up a bit but BT don't appear until loop 8 or so

One of the experts probably knows the exact order they unlock in

[tacit lion]

Ah. I've been trying to get more into it but that has made it tedious... well that and the gains. feels slow even for a roguelite.

[pine siren]

Cleaners are strong if you're trying to entrench yourself in cover but weaker if you just rush them (generally the opposite of hyenas) so it's relatively easy to just charge through the first loop quickly

[young agate]

Cleaners at 1 and true sons at 2 I think, then it's a matter of odds from there

[nocturne hedge]

In group its the other way around

[young agate]

Interesting

[red ledge]

Just threw any remaining NSA tech currency I had for the Reconstructed Caches, and I'm currently 560 while my NSA tech total is 80.

Worth it.

[viscid leaf]

For group, 1st loop is True Sons then the next loops are random. For solo, 1st loop is Cleaners, 2nd loop is True Sons, and 3rd is Cleaners, then the next loops are random (I usually get Hyenas on 4th but I sometimes get True sons as well).

[tacit lion]

hmm... it feels like cleaners vast majority of the time, but I've only done solo.

[nocturne hedge]

For a solo nemesis run on loop 4 yeah its 2 cleaner loops

[delicate idol]

does any one know if server restart kicks you out of decent?

[viscid leaf]

9/10 times, no. The server restart icon doesn't actually mean the servers reset. It usually does nothing.

[delicate idol]

ok good to know

[delicate idol]

anyone know what talent pool it will change to tonight?

[jolly cave]

@north spindle You're looking for #lfg-playstation, GL Agent

[dusk niche]

No one knows it's random, other than it's not going to be wrath

[light badge]

I thought they followed a pattern. Was expecting envy next 😭

[delicate idol]

hopefully its envy

[red ledge]

I just hope the next rotation is still up by Tuesday

[delicate idol]

for anyone wondering rotation is now sloth ☹️