#td2-descent

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atomic imp
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First. And first question. Why it's so long 😛

warm stirrup
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thats what she said 😎

pine siren
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Countdown inverted

atomic imp
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Is there a list of exclusive gifts from Decent?

twin geyser
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are any blueprints locked behind this game mode?

topaz magnet
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Including few DZ ones

atomic imp
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That's quite unfortunate. It takes more then an hour to finish it even solo

twin geyser
upper smelt
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Is this where we ask for some sort of save progression option so we aren't encouraged by the game to have ridiculously long play sessions to get far in descent? To be clear, not asking to save progress on death, only a way to save progress for a logout either for a break or a crash/bug

warm stirrup
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this would be just for game mode chat. Not for official feedback.

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being honest, im actually not sure were official feedback goes, now that forums are gone. Maybe the support discord 🤔

hidden idol
lime copper
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Yay! I know people putting decent builds in the build advice was confusing new players. Also now you can search decent channel for decent info.

pine siren
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the checkpoint idea was widely requested during PTS so the devs are well aware of it, I'm sure

gentle briar
astral anchor
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fix exploits people use, and let people who play this mode come back with their stuffs if they had disconnect!. It was said many times during PTS

gentle briar
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pretty sure during the Y5S1 stream they said something along the lines of them not adding checkpoints

raven lagoon
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i kinda just wish it didn't always send u back to DC after death. just send me to a new room to reinitialize the simulation. (nb4, just stop dying and that'll solve that problem, hahaha)

gentle briar
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since it goes against the genre

hidden idol
gentle briar
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for roguelikes I don't think so

astral anchor
hidden idol
gentle briar
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probably a roguelite

warm stirrup
urban musk
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roguelite vs roguelike, whats the diff?

balmy finch
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what

pine siren
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roguelike is complete fresh start every time, roguelite lets you carry across bonuses from one run to the next (eg the stuff you buy with NSA tech)

upper smelt
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Roguelite is a type of roguelike that generally has some sort of minor progression, in our instance the upgrades you can earn/buy to get slightly stronger for your next run

urban musk
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ah

gentle briar
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simple way of thinking about it

cyan fox
gentle briar
upper smelt
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Hitting multiple birds with 1 stone

lime copper
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I think the game mode should have a short per run time. It would be better if they had put a low loop cap of like 15. Even getting good rng and running super fast you'd still be 1.5-2 hours in.

cyan fox
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I saw a daria tweet about improving the solo /group experience a week back I think

gentle briar
cyan fox
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Mods get the embed privileges😡

gentle briar
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teehee

upper smelt
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What does that tweet even mean...

gentle briar
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sounds to me like adding more rewards & making it easier for solo players

cyan fox
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I mean they advertised reconstructed caches so much pre release and I've yet to see one from descent
Aren't those the ones that drop the missing named blueprints

upper smelt
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It's apparently blueprints for all named items, even dz exclusive named items. But the blueprints are quite rare

cyan fox
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Yea that's what I heard that they are rare

lime copper
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I've always wondered about the crafting blueprint count. You'll have all available blueprints but it'll still say like 9/15 assault rifles or something with no locked blueprints. Guessing those are named ones to be unlocked via recon caches?

latent oyster
cyan fox
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Oh boy loop 40 plus

latent oyster
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running it for over 5-6h strait to get there with a chance to get 1 blueprint is a bit much considering it looks like you can get 35 blueprints

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and 5-6hrs might even be a quick run without fails. i have reached 27 and with a slow run it already took 5hrs...

lime copper
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I don't think I'd use pts patch notes to go off the current game mode but it might still hold tru? 40 loops is crazy. Highest leaderboards had last week was like 37ish and would probably be higher now but I wonder how long it took people to get there. It's about time invested and rewards and it's unhealthy to sit and play for 4-8 hours straight. It's also not fun when a simple crash could end your run.

cyan fox
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There's people at 51 plus iirc last I checked

latent oyster
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highes rigth now is like 53 group and solo 60+

cyan fox
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It's gonna keep going up
It's the natural progression of modes like this

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It's just gonna boil down to who can sit in a chair for god knows how many hours at a time

latent oyster
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well you can take breaks if you open doors but don't walk in

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there is no timer

pine siren
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or just set a macro that jiggles you about once every 10 mins to prevent a logoff, then you can leave it as long as you like (unless you crash obv)

latent oyster
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but still... i loved div because if your group is skilled there is nothing that takes more than an hour

cunning quest
cyan fox
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I wish it was like resistance where hunters would Spawn in high ass runs

latent oyster
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things like beeing at lvl 27 and you die because some rogue goes balistic and rushes like crazy killing both hivee while you are beeing revived isn't cool at all. Then there are the bugs with doors closing to quick and you don't get ported or some rooms send a full second stage afte all have choosen their talents...

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that mode is cool but has some issuse

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the higher you got the more often you enctounter rogues as far as we noticed... and they can be fun.

cyan fox
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I encountered rogues on loop 13 as a 3 Man
We were surprised
Just entered a room without knowing if they would be there

cunning quest
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@latent oyster Rogues can be fun, but devs made them bullet sponge + rushing machine so they have no "real patern" no "real AI".

latent oyster
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rogues are not signaled at all. only when the doors open... no music, nothing. Having a warning would be cool

cyan fox
cunning quest
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When you compare them to other archetyp like i.e engineer, they put their device then start moving around them, and they return to repair.

cyan fox
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But they just spam skills at you and are annoying as hell

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Found that having cc is pretty vital for them

latent oyster
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well your ways to deal with them are limited in decent compared to openworld or missions. I'm not against them, normal mobs are not that difficult in loop 20-30. They just requier a complete diffrent style of playing. A simple warning that rogues are comming would be nice.

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i mean you can still camp doors against every fraction except maybe outcast (suiciders) and cleaners (their flames hurt) at loop 20+ so dmg is not the issue. but camping doors againt rogues is suicide

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and not camping doors is slow and can be dangerous against pretty much every fraction at that point if they start to swarm you.

cyan fox
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Honestly my highest solo run is loop 20
And I died cuz apparently one of the hyena heavies threw a grenade on the ground that shocks you?

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That was smth I was not expecting

latent oyster
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well they get to use everything they got. we had flame nades from normal soldier npcs

cyan fox
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Lol guess it keeps you on ur toes

latent oyster
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as i said, camping a door and anihilating 1/4-1/2 the wave in an instant feels actually safer to play at some point

cyan fox
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Oh yea I've learned that
It's better to camp doors against certain factions than just staying back

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Allowing them to spread out is asking for trouble

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You don't want the outcast lmg dudes setting up somewhere and just making ur life hell with their special ammo

latent oyster
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but you can't camp doors against rogues. wouldn't be surprised if most of the wipes at loop 20+ are done by either rogues or cleaners

cyan fox
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Yea you never know when rogues are coming eitheir until its too late

rustic bough
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anyone having trouble with Riker loops? I always find myself getting mowed down by even the squishiest enemy archetypes

latent oyster
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if you set up your red talents correctly you only need like 5-8 reds till loop 20. rest in blue and even then things like snipers will nearly oneshot you. not getting hit is actually the easiest way.

fast dawn
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wait how are you guys reaching loop 20???

latent oyster
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at loop 27 we were still running with 8 reds and could camp doors solo XD

rustic bough
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Yeah I guess depends on what weapons you have

fast dawn
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can someone teach me how to reach loop 20, i keep getting stuck at 4. Like are there any guides I should follow?

latent oyster
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and get a revive hive as soon as possible

fast dawn
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what about in terms of talents and weapons?

proven basin
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LF1M

latent oyster
rustic bough
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You'll want Preservation

upper smelt
latent oyster
# fast dawn what about in terms of talents and weapons?

depends on your style of play and the talents you collect. rng dictates your playstyle. overwatch, preservation, entrenched and stuff like that seem to be a must have and for weapons... we acually use m1a classics, m60s, super 60 or m870 most of the time. mk16, m4 or even ak can be useful if no other choice.

rustic bough
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yeah shotguns are like meta

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there are some good talents to pair with shotguns, such as Opportunistic, Steady Handed, Unhinged.

latent oyster
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shotgun + bullet hell and the chatterbox like talent are a bit insane

lime copper
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The vid Raucey linked is clear and consise if you'd like a what's my best path to succes. That said you still gotta be gud at the game to get up super high in the loops.

frosty quail
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if I get striker drone at the start, is it possible to kill nemesis if I take skill tier cores instead of armor/weapons

lime copper
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I mean sure but the nem is gonna get a drone too and probably mop you.

astral anchor
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have played Descent today and not recieved anmy clan XP, but it was ok last week

cyan fox
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Hutchler my beloved

lime copper
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lol

fast dawn
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thanks for the tips guys, doing so much better now

astral anchor
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btw guys, is there a page, like wiki page with all talents that are in Descent?

fast dawn
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oomg yes! Got passed loop 5

raven lagoon
raven lagoon
astral anchor
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cool, thanks!

raven lagoon
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np dude, anytime, just happy to help

fast dawn
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quick question, we cant reroll weapon/skill right?

lime copper
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You can replace them but no rerolling whats available.

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Replace current ones you have*

radiant lotus
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i would so love to see the exact amount of exp i get when i finish!

lime copper
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Just screeny the xp you have and level before going in. Compare after. Each level is 700k so should be easy.

radiant lotus
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700k per level no matter whcih loop you on?

raven lagoon
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I know I did a quick run with a buddy, made a mistake and died at like loop 5? maybe....2+ levels there....

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he means each level up for characters is 700k

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so SS ur current xp and level. do some descent, exit. see what your current xp and level is after....do the math from that

radiant lotus
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i know its a lot when you get far, i got like 75 lvl of the battlepass in one run

lime copper
raven lagoon
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i know just hittin loop 9 and nemesis gave me like 7-8 levels I think.

lime copper
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I can tell you vs open world activities it's poor xp but if you enjoy decent and wanna play it, it's def a bonus to get SHD.

raven lagoon
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i just remember exiting to like 8 or so FPCs

dense bridge
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Someone with higher loop DM ty guys 🙏

arctic current
fathom minnow
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what for?

raven lagoon
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they want that sweet EX PEE!

fathom minnow
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oh nooooooes

arctic current
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Sick and tired of farming events on the map for enough exp to run activities with matchmaking

fathom minnow
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i dont think match making is tied to SHD levels

arctic current
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Yup it isnt

raven lagoon
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I blame nit picky people who judge player level as a way of experience/skill

lime copper
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You are better off solo if you are farming SHD anyway.

arctic current
fathom minnow
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well i followed a guy on my friend list yesterday evening, and he was 9830 SHD, he is now... 37281 SHD

lime copper
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idc what your SHD and bad players are the only ones who care.

lime copper
arctic current
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I'm like shd 60 lmao, i just want to get somewhere descent

fathom minnow
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i think a year ago, if you are high SHD, you are a veteran. Now, if you are high SHD, you are a glitcher and loser

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different times

jolly cave
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SHD never meant anything past 1k anyway, no need to gate keep.

fathom minnow
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if you want quick exp, just turn on 4 directives and farm CP4s

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724k exp every 3 minutes aint so bad

arctic current
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After like 20 it's gets tiring

jolly cave
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Just a reminder to not discuss exploits in here in any kinda detail, it is against the rules.

raven lagoon
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it's dumb, hope it's fixed tho, like, quickly....and rolledback

fathom minnow
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do some regular Descent if you like that, getting to loop 10 only takes an hour with friends, and you get 13 levels at that loop

raven lagoon
lime copper
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Yeah idgaf about exploits or anything. I don't take that into consideration when talking to people.

arctic current
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Appreciate your advices though, in the meantime i'll still be looking for high loop level

jolly cave
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It's borderline, but keeping the convo going around it will be an issue.

raven lagoon
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s'all good, we have same rule on other discord as well so I know how that is. exploit talk big no no. (hell, most every game server is same stance on that)

fathom minnow
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just be mindful, even if you join someone at high loop, say loop 50, you are going in naked, with no talents, no stats, no skills, no weapon. you will be completely useless.

lime copper
raven lagoon
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only thing I can see from higher loops is the % for recon caches (or other caches for that matter), and someone trying to farm BPs or something from them.

fast dawn
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BOIS I BEAT THE NEMESIS! THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AGAIN!

raven lagoon
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woo, congrats mate

lime copper
fast dawn
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is there more rewards for going through the loops past Nemesis?

fathom minnow
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just points

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i got to loop 41, and it's only just descent currency and XP past nemesis

raven lagoon
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so since u got so high, question for you....

fathom minnow
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?

raven lagoon
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after say loop 30 or so, did u exit with a bunch of reconst caches?

fathom minnow
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i got 0

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it has a chance, but not guaranteed

raven lagoon
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ooof, (i trust real world results versus the numbers so i had to ask)

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i heard some numbers but was waiting for real world test results from people who went that high and longer

fathom minnow
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yeah, you MAY get it past 30

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i was specifically sorting through my caches and found 0 reconstruct after the run

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maybe some others had better luck

raven lagoon
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that'd be some bad luck if the numebrs were true. shit....aight, thanks.

fathom minnow
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i ain't going to spend another 7 hours anytimer soon though, thats a whole work day of just 1 game mode.

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no worries.

raven lagoon
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yeah no, that's too much time

cyan fox
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Are we talking about reconstructed caches

lime copper
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Well talking about the lack of them....

cyan fox
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Yea it's kinda ridiculous

dense bridge
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Someone willing to let me get few lvls on Descent with the invite

pine siren
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wouldn't recommend, Devs said they would ban anyone who abuses xp glitches

cyan fox
dense bridge
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I am willing to take that risk. I don't have the time I am willing to put in the game it is what it is

cyan fox
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So the blueprints are coming from the simulation caches

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But we get no prompt for them

raven lagoon
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you mean you've obtained more blueprints from simulations caches but no "received: X blueprint" type prompt and no ! at crafting bench? (just wanting to be sure I understand as i've opened quite a few simulation caches)

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oh, lol, just saw a video link. XD I'm old and blind, ignore me....

cyan fox
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As in when you open the sim caches they don't appear as coming out of the caches
It'll be in the crafting blueprint but no mention you actually got them from the cache

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Like how in CPs they appear out of the boxes

raven lagoon
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gotcha, ill need to check my darn crafting table and note the number before/after some caches

cyan fox
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I'm not sure if these same blueprints are also supposed to be coming out of CPs tho

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Only one I've gotten was a eletricque blueprint in my first cp I did this season

cyan fox
indigo dagger
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how did i die in the first room man...

hallow fable
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happened to me once, its hilarious

proven basin
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LF2M Decent

cyan fox
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Happened to me once

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My biggest enemy in the mode is when I start getting cocky and they get shit on by shock ammo petter

indigo dagger
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oof, plague vs bullet hell for first pick

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gotta be BH right

cyan fox
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Yea bullet hell
And tbh I'd get diamondback talent if its available after

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I've grown to love it

indigo dagger
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meta core is blue right

cyan fox
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I only go blues after nemesis tbh

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I did just fine with mostly reds solo

desert nest
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does currency gain increase nsa tech or only descent currency?

raven lagoon
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I THINK it's only basic descent currency

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since nsa items are a one shot deal mostly, no use giving a boost to earning those faster, (that would be my logic tho)

indigo dagger
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ever since i learned shotguns were strong i've never seen one...

raven lagoon
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game knows what you want and withholds

cyan fox
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You want to upgrade ur preservation
Here's 3 protected reload rolls in a row

harsh rose
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Need descent boost

inland mist
indigo dagger
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whoo first nemesis kill

cyan fox
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i tried descent solo again and idk theres smth about the mode solo that just makes it very boring for me

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i think im only playing descent from now on in a group

fast laurel
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i like the solo because its my pace.. the group when i feel the need to rush things..
but my biggest hang up is i spend to much time in photo mode..

indigo dagger
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Man electric floor is brutal

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Died to having to stand in the open on top of a box

polar ember
indigo dagger
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it was mostly poor positioning on my end

latent oyster
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well till loop 10 or something decent is a skill check, then it gets boring for another 10 or so loops and at 25 starts the party again.

storm abyss
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preservation and bulletking are top tier perk, worth multiple rerolls

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the burst pistol works very well with trauma early game

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composure scales very well, also quite good from early game to post-nemesis

full robin
storm abyss
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entrench needs multiple loops to see its effects tho

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breathe free, maybe its good early on, i'm a person who prefer to keep heads down

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'heads down' means both ways

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so no grenades and sniper shots from enemies, no flanking from enemies

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descent has no time limit anyways, as long as enemies dont do funny stuff or game crashes, should easily get to post-nemesis

proven basin
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LFG - Decent

drifting sparrow
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got myself stuck at door 😦

proven basin
drifting sparrow
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ehh cant post image, but i got myself stuck on door trying to run back to the descent room as the door was closing

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got out though after some rolling

heavy sonnet
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Anyone to do a descent now?

full robin
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Edit: Ah nvm i see that you walked back then the game usually loads you back in

whole bear
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I finished my first Nemesis kill on a disgusting run, 6 exotics in 10 loops

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Pest/Bullet Hell/Adaptive

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Is there any kind of reward for going past the Nemesis?

balmy finch
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More credits

whole bear
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Well I saw people stopping at Loop 30 so I was curious if you get something from that

balmy finch
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You stop receiving rewards at 40 from what I've heard

whole bear
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Huh, TIL

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Thanks

balmy finch
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Basically you just get more and more credits

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And it becomes easier since you're all stacked out

whole bear
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I was stacking 6 Allegros on a FAMAS with a teammate on 10 Overwatches

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Genuinely disgusting

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Plus enough Clutches to just... keep firing, even while taking damage and your armor keeps refilling

upper smelt
balmy finch
upper smelt
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You can do descent even at level 1 , so they listed all the rewards you can get for all level ranges, ending at max level 40. So all level 40s will get the rewards for level 40 no matter how far you go

balmy finch
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OH okay

toxic temple
shrewd flame
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I'm still trying to figure this whole thing out

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I got to the Nemesis with a group once but it never showed up

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Now I haven't managed to get 100% since, my randoms keep picking hard rooms

grizzled gate
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Huh îs now descent permenant or sum

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Or am i being brainded again?

rustic bough
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if you go easy all the time you might not have enough talents and upgrades to face the Nemesis

shrewd flame
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So i just feel it might be better to balance hard and easier rooms

full robin
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If anyone picks easy rooms , i just leave
I already know how the rest of the run is going to go

rustic bough
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I'd tell them to pick hard rooms

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They might not know the benefits of it

full robin
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Yea now i started doing that aswell

rustic bough
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Leaving the run without saying anything is just rude

shrewd flame
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Hard rooms all the way then

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Or medium if hard doesn't apply

rustic bough
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Yup

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And boss rooms too

shrewd flame
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I find myself having less luck solo tbh

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I kinda always end up dying in a dumb way

ancient sleet
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Finally beat nemesis

fathom minnow
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grats! welcome to the club.

ancient sleet
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Made it to loop 13 lol

last root
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anyone wish we get to rebuild nemesis after the first fight?

fathom minnow
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Is Descent Matchmaking dead or something? tried 4 times over the past 2 hours with 0 match ups. had to use global chat to join a group

toxic temple
night bolt
jolly cave
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2 weeks, then permanent account ban upon repeat offences, to be specfic.
No warning needs to be given out, since they already did with the Lau one.

astral basalt
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Lost my exotic cashed due to reload of screen.

midnight pelican
hot carbon
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Global said...

It plays no role if you have 1 or 4 players.

  • The weapons are too weak. The roll-out gives no really chance to get a good weapon. Example: 2 Snipers against you and you have simply a MP7 only.
  • Armor is too weak, if the NPC comes from different areas at the same time you have no chance.
  • In some cases ammo is not enough

With 4 players it goes a bit easier but mostly after level 4 is mostly finish.

Global said: With big luck you can play long hours but you don't gat any reward. That mean: To play this Mode means: It is "Waste Of Time".

And what for a thing is it if a player has a CRASH or a DELTA??? He cannot come back into the match. And the other players can not invite him again or invite another player They only have the chance to kick out this deadbeat.

If there is NO incentive what makes this mode a bit more interesting, for what should I play?? 2 hrs for ZERO reward??? NO...

If there would be a simple reward after every ARENA (maybe a box with 2 pieces like weapons, armor or modification tools) as a special thank for playing this mode, it would be more interesting.

Sorry for such hard judgement, but it is how it is.

I have more from the game when I play COUNTDOWN where big part of players run away before the match has ended.

astral anchor
last root
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it includes another step after

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and they get free xp based on number of loops

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dont do it youwill get the ban hammer

astral anchor
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uff I dont care about XP, just disconnect thing do the game unplayable. Didnt know that thanks

last root
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ye descent is laggy af

astral anchor
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I didnt think that if I invite someone to play it was a glitch lol its just an invitasion

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omg

jolly cave
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The point of the ban is if you gain unreasonable amounts of xp quickly, it's nothing to do with specific glitch methods.

astral anchor
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it was posibble during both PTS and was not any info about this, that it was forbidden to invite oo ...Ubisoft, once you can release sonmething playable? xd

astral anchor
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who care about XP, lol why they ban for this, doesnt matter already if you have 1000 watch or 100k. Its a ritoric question xd no need to reply

jolly cave
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The reason it was put in place for the last exploit is not directly that they were gaining XP, but that the amount of people doing it was actually affecting the Servers due to the method used.

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Loading into anywhere not inside the DC map would cause instability in the game. It was.....trying.

astral anchor
last root
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you get HP per level after 1k

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so if u had like say 200k SHD due to exploiting 😐

astral anchor
last root
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and then there is the materials

jolly cave
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It's such a small increase that normally it wouldn't mean anything.
but with the exploits yeah it was causing some issues.

astral anchor
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idk why then they did this HP increament. People can play only for game, not for grind only

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well xd Descent topic yeah xd sry

jolly cave
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I'm hoping for updates on Descent as we go along, like a good rogue-lite should have.

astral anchor
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yeah

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btw, we were playing with electronic build yesterday too, and we won nemesis. Not only red builds are valid. It was interesting -)

gentle briar
astral anchor
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idk I feel now that some talents are good before nemesis, and some only after, cause you have no enought time to upgrade them before nemesis. How you think guys

jolly cave
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As long as they don't try and add previous versions of existing Talents to confuse the newbies, I'm okay with them adding in all the older removed ones.

astral anchor
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na, im speaking about existing talents, that are in game

jolly cave
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Was responding to drib,
After enough practice, I'm sure you'll be able to beat them with any combination.

gentle briar
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turns out theres already quite a few old talents in the pool

astral anchor
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I think they put talents all can use, level 30 and level 40. Btw I dont remember if there any difference in their sets

gentle briar
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all of the direct stat increase talents like critical, insulated & empowered to name a few are all from gear 1.0

inland mist
gentle briar
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before WoNY gear was different in how it worked which is gear 1.0 after WoNY its gear 2.0

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main thing from it was that there was talents on every gear piece

astral anchor
inland mist
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Why is glass canon and bloodsucker an exotic talent?

gentle briar
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if it was in the main pool they'd prob be overpowered once stacking

inland mist
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Imagine regulas talent in that pool instead of glass canon.

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Oh to ruin our fun, got it lol

gentle briar
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you already can get super op

inland mist
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Pass loop 25 you aren't overpowered at all.

gentle briar
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vig & clutch/preservation serve basically the same purpose

inland mist
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With 6 talents all level 10 you throw pillows at the npc

astral anchor
inland mist
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Anyone who made it pass loop 25 knows this. You can get one shot from a red sniper with 350% armor. Make that make sense

hot carbon
# jolly cave The reason it was put in place for the last exploit is not directly that they we...

I saw your discussion... Interesting theme.

So I want to ask: Why threatens the developers with a BAN for using exploits???

Why you bring out a program which have exploits? Why do you not check it that you can make sure that there is NO exploit.

When an exploit comes out to the public that often comes iby chance only and not because that there was somebody who has searched for that.

You are make it for you very simple. BAN all people which using this esploit and ready.

Then I will say ist also simple: Bring out a program which is free from exploits.

Test ist so long that you can be sure there is no thing like this inside and 1st then give it free.

gentle briar
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coding is just

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not that simple like at all

nova comet
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ah yes, the good old

inland mist
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Because we get punished for their mess ups.

gentle briar
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theres bugs in literally every piece of software

nova comet
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"make it not have bugs lol"

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you wont get punished if you dont abuse the explot

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thats how that works

gentle briar
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dont exploit dont get punished ¯_(ツ)_/¯

inland mist
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Over a year later countdown is still crashing lol

nova comet
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nice subject change

gentle briar
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few levels here and there by mistake probably wont get you a harsh punishment they'll be able to tell if you're purposefully exploiting

inland mist
hot carbon
gentle briar
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correct

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if you go out of your way to exploit thus breaking tos you are liable to get banned

nova comet
gentle briar
smoky needle
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In fact, never promise 'no bugs' in coding.

inland mist
nova comet
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Bugs will happen. Its almost expected at this point, even in polished games. All you have to do is not exploit the game and earn a bunch of levels or whatever else is bugged. Really not that hard

inland mist
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Yea, don't cheat nerds. Easy concept

astral anchor
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interesting, people who did 53 loop in Desccent stopped playing cause they wanted to sleep, they had game crash or something else 😄 server shotdown exist too xd

inland mist
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That's like smashing your car into a wall then suing the wall for damages.

hot carbon
# nova comet Exploit enough, get banned. Its not hard to *not* exploit.

For me exploiting is not question.. I'm 63 y.o. and do not need it. I do nnot need to lie to myself.

But I understand every one which find such a thing. It is always seductive.

To give a BAN for cheating or hacking is absolutely correct. But BAN somebody for a mistake which is made by yourself... That is simply cheap.

gentle briar
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oversight yes no need to give fault there that happens in coding but choosing to exploit that oversight breaks the ToS making you liable to be banned

nova comet
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Yeah thats not how that works. If you just gain a few levels and you dont realize it, its whatever. If you gain some ridiculous amount then it gets into temporary ban territory. When you decide to do it AGAIN after already being banned, thats on them, and they deserve it.

inland mist
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I blame youtubers lol

nova comet
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Same, to be honest.

inland mist
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Ban them for making videos about exploits that thousands of people see.

nova comet
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Wish it could happen, but we arent in charge of it

astral anchor
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its easy to fix I think - 1st step turn of invite option and thats ok -) they will time to fix the problem.

smoky needle
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And 'ban' players for using exploit, that really shows the weakness of devs. Especially considering the cheaters never/seldom get banned in TD2.
I'm only interested in why after the dev's tweet with comments requesting punishment , then the server sucks. Looks like somebody is trying to manipulate public opinions.

inland mist
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Won't see that happen, because they bring hype and people to the game. All in the meantime destroying it

gentle briar
gentle briar
astral anchor
nova comet
inland mist
nova comet
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*modmail is only for server issues here

astral anchor
inland mist
astral anchor
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but I think we just can report such a youtubers

inland mist
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The guy who has over 20k views in this glitch video, was caught going invisible in the dz and killing ppl. Nothing happened to him and there was video evidence.

hot carbon
gentle briar
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you can ban them

nova comet
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you can 100% ban them

gentle briar
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its simple exploiting is against the terms of service which you agree to when buying and launching the game

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break the ToS you get punished simple as

nova comet
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and sure the devs made a mistake, but its your mistake for using it. dont do it. easy as that

smoky needle
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Any ideas why TD2 using the word 'exploit', other games just describe such behavior as 'bug' ?

gentle briar
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because people exploit a bug same wording would be used in other places its the correct terminology

smoky needle
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If devs could say clearly that's a bug and not using it, things will be easier.

astral anchor
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I think partly Sentinel is right, sometimes using bug happen without such an intention. But like modes say, if it wasnt exploited it wont be bunned, only if its really repeated and exploted

nova comet
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wow ok yeah thats not acceptable

astral anchor
astral anchor
gentle briar
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deleted message

nova comet
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dont worry about it

gentle briar
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^

astral anchor
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aa xd

gentle briar
smoky needle
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Oh, sources of that message ?

astral anchor
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I rhink it was on twitter or something when it was a thing with Fey Lau

gentle briar
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1 moment

smoky needle
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Streaming or patch notes?

gentle briar
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twitter & in game

nova comet
gentle briar
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TY aspect

nova comet
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That was for the Faye Lau exploit about a year ago. The same thing applies here.

pine siren
astral anchor
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we need green emote for Descent mode xd

hot carbon
smoky needle
upper smelt
nova comet
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You can do what you want, exploit it if you dont care. But the devs will ban you, either temporarily or permanantly.

upper smelt
# smoky needle So last time they ban for 'making server unstable and high latency', and like I ...

I have no problem with something like f10 that was a very good way to level up and didn't fuck over the servers, but this glitch is on a whole different order of magnitude. F10 was around 50ish shd an hour. This is FAR higher than that. Someone I know has gone from roughly 20k shd to over 90k shd in a week or two. It's completely unreasonable amounts of exp to the point that you can farm game breaking amounts of health that can actually give you a noticable advantage. It's a problem.

smoky needle
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Will the TU18.1 release next week? I remember they say fixing the exploit.

gentle briar
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probably not

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my guess

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next 1-2 weeks

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its possible it could release next week but I doubt it personally

pine siren
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Saw a pic today of someone that was spotted with over 300k shd

smoky needle
astral anchor
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with this exploit they cant fix really important things xdxd, they simply dont have time for fix another things ah, hoping to the light future xd

hot carbon
upper smelt
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I can but all your messages read like your putting them through Google translate

hot carbon
nova comet
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And as if to prove a point! Bingo.

upper smelt
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I asked you why you had such a problem if you were claiming not to use the glitch. You responded by telling me I can't read.

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If your going to cheat and defend it, at least have the balls to admit your doing it.

shrewd flame
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I wonder why you don't have a stats tab in descent tbh, to basically remind you of what NSA upgrades you got

hot carbon
# upper smelt I asked you why you had such a problem if you were claiming not to use the glitc...

No You do not understand the message. I have a problem with people which made mistakes and give the guilt to others. as I said: Cheating and hacking are things which are an absolutely NO GO.

But expoits are a mistake for the DEV's by miscoding. They are fund by chance and not because of using forbidden programs.

If you by yourself make a mistake it is Your part to correct this mistake. You cannot say to a friend: I make a mistake... please correct it. You must do it by yourself and you cannot give then guilt to anotther person.

I have a problem with people which gives a punishment for a mistake they have done by themselves.

nova comet
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Exploits are a mistake. The devs have told you not to use them or you will get temporarily banned or permanantly banned. Stop defending the exploiters. Not gonna ask again.

upper smelt
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This exploit is not something anyone is doing by accident/mistake

nova comet
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If it was able to be done in normal gameplay, then it would be much less harsh of a sentence, or even just a rollback. But this is specific. You have to know what it is. Anyone who does it gets no sympathy.

upper smelt
hot carbon
humble axle
nova comet
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for someone who argues against banning exploiters, isnt it kinda wierd you """"havent done it""""

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this isnt a normal "oh, no, i havent" this has been like multiple hours of back and forth

nova comet
humble axle
hot carbon
hot carbon
nova comet
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Someone elses genuine mistake doesnt mean you can use it. If you have no idea how to do it, i'd not argue this hard for it.

humble axle
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If you don't know how to do it then yeah you're safe, but people actively gaining an unfair advantage should be banned, the mistake isn't solely the devs coding, it's the user taking advantage of that mistake with that intent in mind

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It's unfair for players that take leaderboards seriously

hot carbon
urban musk
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i think this has gone on long enough, exploits bad, people who use them are even worse, devs are gonna try and fix it because they aint perfect, something will always leak thru the cracks. devs are trying their best already

astral anchor
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omg guy did 140 loops, how long he played??

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thats why I dont like this mode you need to play aboyt 5 hiuyrs just to ipgrade all talents you want, insane

fathom minnow
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lol, we still on this? in real life, if you take advantage of a "mistake" in a restaurant to get free food, you get kicked out and banned for life. if you abuse a system "error" in a casino for easier winnings, you get fined, booted out and even jailed. its not hard to understand this logic.

pliant spindle
fathom minnow
pliant spindle
fathom minnow
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Also, i asked ChatGPT this :"Is it considered stealing if I buy a drink from McDonald's and leave then come back and refill?"

ChatGPT response:" Yes, it is considered stealing to refill a drink without paying for it. When you purchase a drink from McDonald's, you are paying for a single serving of that drink. Refilling it without paying for another serving would be taking something that you did not pay for, which is considered theft. It is best to purchase a new drink if you want a refill."

pliant spindle
fathom minnow
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they would of done so long ago, but they dont lose anything from refills regardless of circumstance, because once the refills are up and thew tank runs dry, they'll just post a sticker saying "OUT". they only pay for the 1 or 2 tanks of drink per day. They lose nothing in the long run.

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McDonalds i mean

fathom minnow
pliant spindle
fathom minnow
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that would of been a glorious death if i'm being honest

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sounds better than dying on a hospital bed.

hollow charm
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So did anyone else figure out how to get 3 exotic talents and 3 stats at the end of loop 1?

fathom minnow
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yes

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is it considered a bug or exploit?

full robin
full robin
fathom minnow
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you just need to take down the all boss armor and wait until you are notified to join the room. leave the room and come back in to fight again, get bonus, kill the boss, get third bonus.

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i wonder if its a bug or not

hollow charm
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We don't even touch the boss to trigger it. And it only works in the lab room boss arena

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We just die and it triggers it for everytime you are in that room. It's wild

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One of us dies.

fathom minnow
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different method i guess

hollow charm
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I'm gonna try the armor thing.

fleet grail
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anyone down for decnt good for xp

slender tinsel
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It’s terrible for xp! What are you talking about?!

fleet grail
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lol so you dont know

slender tinsel
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Exploiting (cheating) doesn’t count.

fleet grail
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obvs

polar ember
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The ban wave is coming…. 🤣😆😂

fleet grail
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half of the player base hahaa

slender tinsel
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I just speed running heroic Lincoln memorial with directives on will get you a lot more xp

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@fleet grail I hope so.

polar ember
orchid berry
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so people are 100 today and 100000 tmr?

midnight pelican
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An alternative to banning is to reset them to Level 30 and lose all level 40 gears and expertise,

river sapphire
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its gon be obvious for the devs if they wanted to know, they have every piece of data they need to tell and act accordingly, just a matter of if they will or not

river sapphire
proven basin
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LFG - Decent

fathom minnow
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lol just finished nemesis in under an hour, using pisto only from beginning until nemesis, no other weapons.

ionic plover
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Lfg ps4 decent EU pref w mic

twin geyser
fathom minnow
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well if you are lucky to escape judgment, 90K SHD is 72 years of playing normal. Even a 14 day ban is worth it in their mind.

cyan fox
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This wouldn't be a warning
They said in their streams
The more severe the infractions equal insta bans

fathom minnow
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only if you got a warning before. if you didnt, its a warning, thats what they said on streams. cheating is instant hammer

cyan fox
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I feel like smth like this they'd roll back the crap out of everyone ngl

fathom minnow
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that'd be the way to go

cyan fox
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Cuz there's people at 100k shd cuz of this thing 😂

fathom minnow
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yeah, and i just saw 1 .6M SHD guy in DZ with 3.3m health

cyan fox
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Yea that is crazy

astral anchor
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sad, was trying fire sticky bomb and chem launcher in Descent - so uncomfortable to use them - even without charge, after using they still in your hand. Does it happen to you too?

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hard to react to the enemy or take a cover when you use these skills uf

fathom minnow
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CC in descent is very helpful, but damage skills are situational and not as good. weapon damage still king

astral anchor
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every build can exist. Main idea - that all your builds work together

cyan fox
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Honestly really
Actual skills after the nemesis can easily thrive

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I ran a sniper turret against the nemesis my first time and it got hacked constantly but luckily I always placed it next to me so

astral anchor
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😄 good idea, need to try

cyan fox
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I just blind fired the turret lol
Problem solved

fathom minnow
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except nemesis can use the same skills against you all day until you are dead meat

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i ran with a group of 4 the other day, used no skills and nothing but pistos. rekt nemesis so hard by spamming infinitely until they kneeled

delicate ruin
astral anchor
rustic bough
astral anchor
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will try next time 👍

full delta
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So they fixed the xp exploit?

fathom minnow
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no

full delta
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Feels like they kinda opened the door on that one, its kinda like leaving a door a crack open, someones gonna punch it open and explore it

prisma oracle
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when u have unhinged x6 before the boss

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xD

cyan fox
hidden idol
storm abyss
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yes

prisma oracle
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The nemesis is just you

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Copies all your guns and skills

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Easiest way to kill him is to hide in cover where you enter make sure to have a shotgun. Lots of damage perks. Explo/other ammo. The skills I would recommend is riot foam

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Also when choosing exotic trait avoid glass cannon and bullet hell

astral anchor
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I like bullet hell

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and some talents with it are very cool

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like gunslinger

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exactly with bullethell its awesome duet

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I think

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cause gunslinger with often reload its hard

dense bridge
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hey guys

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I accidently got locked behind doors

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step back to shoot red canister and got stuck on doors

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got unstuck but was behind doors

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managed to kill all hostiles but doors doesnt open

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any way to fix this

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for future they must open the doors

vestal mist
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ive had it happen when i stopped just before entering and the door closed with me on the outside. its been warping me inside. though its before the room starts. not after a fight.

dense bridge
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so

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did u fix it ?

full robin
cyan fox
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Bugs like this are why some people are gonna get pissed off at the mode

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Not even smth minor
It just ends ur run

dense bridge
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dude

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I was rolling stone

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and had to leave

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there can be ipmlemented alot of fixes

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1st and obvius u got teleported inside the room when the count finishes

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2 nd u can take toxic dmg behind the doors and be forced to move forward keeping doors opened

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3rd if the encounter is completed doors open automaticly

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cause I managed to kill all the bad guys..

obtuse flint
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That’s impressive lol. I died instantly when that happened to me

cyan fox
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Not to mention enemies are shooting you through cover aswell lol

dense bridge
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I was so ahead...

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Im going out for a beer

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cya...

obtuse flint
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I made it to loop 29 arena fight and choked 😭

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I really would have liked my last full solo run to be a flat 30

gloomy pulsar
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Didn't think the waves I'd be having the most trouble with was the outcasts

obtuse flint
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Yah outcasts are evil incarnate

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I swear like a sailor the entire time I’m on a loop with them

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Rikers are the ones I hate the most next. Hate their snipers, heavy with the stupid machine gun and the boss with the bleed. They killed me on loop 29 😡

gloomy pulsar
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Snipers in this mode, are actually a cause for concern

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Like, they're the smartest of the bunch of archetypes

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Even the fucking CLEANER sniper

hallow fable
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so whats the trick to beat nemesis solo? before, not to max red talents? or what

pine siren
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I've done it a couple of times and found it relatively painless, just beamed him in the head for a bit and he went down

hallow fable
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hmm, what NOT to do before nemesis is better question? 😄

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all easy until it or hard is better

pine siren
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personally most of my runs (all solo) have wiped before reaching him, but it's a trade-off you have to choose - hard rooms mean you're more likely to wipe earlier but if you don't you'll be more powerful by the time you reach him

hallow fable
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power means nothing when his 2 bullets are enought to shreed you down

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Composure Talent, red, While in cover, increases total weapon damage. Does it increases instantly when entering cover?

fathom minnow
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and you only need 1 bullet to the head to get back 100% of your armor lol

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you just gota out last them ,easy

pine siren
hallow fable
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lucky, i always happen to had him basically spawned at me or much more close vicinity

pine siren
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the drone did a sterling job of distracting him, I must admit

hallow fable
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but lucky it didnt get hacked

pine siren
#

on a related note, lmg + chatterbox is a pretty hilarious combo, although it felt rather risky doing the intial reload with enemies around, the rof boost paid off in spades, that one reload basically lasted me at least two complete loops with effectively zero ammo loss

hallow fable
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hmm i see. what about unhinged?

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does it affects lmgs? cuz AR its insane

pine siren
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nah, I like my stability & accuracy too much

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haven't actually tried it on an lmg

hallow fable
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for SMG, thats godsend

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but smg must be close

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nemesis, close = death xD

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smg + bullet hell, plague, preservation, critical dmg + hit and allegro, works wonders

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  • unhinged ofc, 18% dmg per level
pine siren
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that ammo consumption though

hallow fable
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but ammo upgrades, thats why you have smg + ar/lmg, even rifle with big allegro feels like hard hitting AR xD

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what to use for shock traps, 10% skill dmg or duration?

pine siren
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do shock traps do any damage at all?

fathom minnow
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it shouldnt

hallow fable
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no, i picked duration, it'll help with foam too

hollow charm
hallow fable
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aaaaaaaaaaaa, damn cleaners

hallow fable
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and that shooting through cover is awesome

hollow charm
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Entrenched is my favorite op talent

odd violet
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Guys is Decent going to stay in its current state with loops of 40+ for the best cache or is this being looked into?

I mean its fine having content that is there for everyone to learn who have done everything else its just hard to get a party prepared to put that grind in without a save like summit

gilded blade
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I pretty much suck at Descent, so the outcome wouldnt really change much, BUT do people notice that the repair kits not always work? I even sometimes have to pop all 3 for it to finally register as being used?

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At first I thought i didnt pressed the key long enough and I canceled it by accident (which was a solid first guess right?) but i noticed that it happens regularly and it does use the kit, so it has been used without adding anything to my bar

astral anchor
astral anchor
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may be its bug with armor totally, cause yesterday Ive noticed that very often I wasnt sharing armor with my teammate. We were 2 and I had leadership and venguard. Usually is all ok, but yesterday very often I was giving armor only for me

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has someone notice that too?

upper smelt
odd violet
upper smelt
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Your far from the only one to read it that way lol

full robin
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I have yet to get a re-cal cache after 40-50 runs

fast dawn
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is there a max loop in terms of rewards? Like do rewards not get any better post 40 for example

balmy finch
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dont think so

twin geyser
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I'm tired of being skill-spammed and one-shotted by rogues who ignore incoming damage after loop 30

full robin
twin geyser
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And my main issue is - before loop 30, rogues are MANAGEABLE
after loop 30 - they're insanely boosted

full robin
open cape
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I seen someone talking about they always pick armor cores every time. Invests nothing in red cores and gets lots of damage from stacking specific talents

twin geyser
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Still haven't climbed loop 40, may not even try anymore before the patch with tweaks (if we have any, lol)

twin geyser
open cape
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That's what I was thinking

twin geyser
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We never pick armor before loop 10

full robin
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What about skills ?

twin geyser
#

It's pointless - you get equally one-shotted on loop 5 and on loop 25

full robin
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Which ones you go with

twin geyser
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If no luck with foam / revive - distraction+ fire sticky

full robin
cyan fox
full robin
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I think 3 should have enough foams

open cape
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Yeah I was thinking investing in reds would be kinda necessary

twin geyser
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I upgrade yellow maybe 1-2 times. If you fight rogues - they're always +1 of your team. If I'm solo - I use +1 skill tier. Everything else is red / blue (65/35)

full robin
twin geyser
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Exotic talents - bloodsucker (helps a lot if you're swarmed), chatterbox talent and Agonizing bite for critting all the time

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My highest loop is 32 (reached today) but some tweaks need to be done 100%

full robin
#

What weapons do you run then ?

open cape
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breathe free and bullet hell would be dope with a shotgun.

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super 90 or sasg even

gilded blade
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So nobody picking plague? I thought Plague+trauma was the way to go

full robin
twin geyser
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I usually drop Agonizing bite and slap bullet hell on top of x3-5 stacks of chatterbox talent. Enemies fall faster than leaves in the wind

full robin
twin geyser
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Not switching, but adding. If your have chatter stacks BEFORE bullet hell and than you slap BH on top - you get infinite ammo with rof multiplier

full robin
twin geyser
ionic plover
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Is it just straight random when you get a 2nd exotics talent option or is there something you can do to get them? I have ran solo, 2 and 3 in a group and never seems to make sense when they pop up to select...

astral anchor
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everyone goes different builds, why copy, just choose what you like and what your team need

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there is no only 1 right option

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never

twin geyser
keen trench
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anyone who i could join in a high descent loop??

chrome mist
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Is descent good for farming gear?

pine siren
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nope

grizzled briar
chrome mist
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well then I know what not to play

pine siren
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challenging countdown, summit, or just run open world if it has suitable target loot

river sapphire
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on loop 15 rn, easy and fun

grizzled briar
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i was on loop 11 and delta

river sapphire
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gonna stop at 4 or until loop 21

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aka an hour from now

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last week only got to loop 9

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team got stuck in the black room after nemesis defeat and had to back out lmao

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seen some dude for solo leaderboards get loop 108, then boost 3 people with the exploit 💀

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as if it isnt obvious now

raven lagoon
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wonder if the people offering the high loop xp exploit are charging anything....watch em be charging people $ and they wont get banned cause they didn't jump levels, but all those who bought services get banned. XD

river sapphire
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just a shame you're that skilled to get that high of a loop just to get your account banned, they were all main accounts, you can openly inspect them on the leaderboard

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like bro you're really dedicated to the game clearly, why waste it boosting 3 other accounts lol

#

we're talking at least a 7 hour run 💀

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its a little unintentional on consoles id say, but on pc nobody is inviting you from ubisoft connect to play descent unless you know about the glitch like come on now, if they are on your friends list and you wanted to invite them you'd click the big social tab when you click escape and see you can't invite people

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just because its on purpose, i'd suspect any descent team leader that invited someone while in a safe space past loop 6, or whatever it is, would be dealt with according to how they deal with glitch exploiters in the terms of service

twin geyser
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According to trello, fix is ready. Must be deployed on Tuesday (I hope)

hidden idol
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Until now the most fun I had was chatterbox + LMG with Steady Hands.

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Of course you need quite some damage, but you gonna hit a lot of shots and have pretty much no recoil. Extra handling if you use the stimulation hive (dunno if this is the correct name for english version)

fast dawn
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are there any data regarding loops? Like how harder do each loop gets? Does it get way harder in loop 10 - 20 compare too loop 0 - 10 etc.

edit: Are there diminishing rewards for each loop etc Is there any point in continuing loop past nemesis?

balmy finch
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also i literally got like 100 nsa creds from one HVT today

fast dawn
ebon hearth
twin geyser
balmy finch
fast dawn
balmy finch
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Idfk lmao

fast dawn
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that 7 hours 👀

inland mist
balmy finch
inland mist
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bleed hive skill tier 6 is nice also to protect from flanks and rogues running out of a door at you.

obtuse flint
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Does clutch have cooldown?

prisma oracle
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no

prisma oracle
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also M1A is a live saver in high loops

proven basin
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LF1M Decent

paper flame
#

Any on loop 10?

hidden idol
#

just reached loop 11 and died because Rykers + good map, however Poison effect was exactly where the only "safe" cover spot was located

#

Safe as, no spawn door behind me or by my side

brittle blaze
#

why does anyone play this dogshit game mode

gentle briar
#

because people find it fun?

hidden idol
#

For example, LMG with Excessive (Incessive?) Talking + Steady Hands + Weapon Handling.
If you have enough weapon damage, you can pretty much hit everything and never stop shooting

#

I still didn't hit above loop 12, due to skill issue and also due to it taking a long time to reach there, so I can't tell if it would work

maiden canyon
fathom minnow
#

i dont think optimist even work with bullet hell lmao

maiden canyon
#

It does. Bullet hell just makes you not reload but the mag is still there

#

So it resets after you depleted your mag and stuff

#

You can see the mag near the crosshair

hidden idol
#

Optimist just loses some efficiency due to you having a hell of a big mag

maiden canyon
hidden idol
#

efficiency

maiden canyon
#

Nor that

hidden idol
#

It takes longer to use the full buff

full robin
#

You can check the mag by switching weapons yes

maiden canyon
#

Mag is still there

#

You just don't reload

full robin
#

Even with bullet hell the ammo will go down but its weird the way it works

#

Its like it reloads itself

fathom minnow
#

what you mean?

hidden idol
#

huh

maiden canyon
#

Yeah and optimist resets after every instant reload

fathom minnow
#

optimist work on % of remaning rounds in a mag, bullethell makes you have infinite rounds for 1 entire mag. it doesn't even work, nor does it have "less efficiency"

full robin
fathom minnow
#

it doesnt really work

maiden canyon
#

Like 30 rounds

hidden idol
#

I will check this later when I have the chance

maiden canyon
#

You'll go through 30 rounds with optimist

fathom minnow
#

how do you calculate dmg % from a 900 round then?

maiden canyon
#

Not 999 or whatever amount of reserves

fathom minnow
#

does it go through 30 rounds then reset?

full robin
maiden canyon
#

Yes

hidden idol
maiden canyon
fathom minnow
#

thats just so weird

maiden canyon
#

It's awesome

hidden idol
#

and is there a list to all buffs when talent reaches 10 or no?

maiden canyon
#

I can see the damage resets too but I'm using a high rpm weapon it's not noticeable

full robin
fathom minnow
#

i played until loop 41 and died and i never use optimist once lol

maiden canyon
maiden canyon
#

Next to unhinged

hidden idol
#

but still, most fun I had until now was Steady Hands, LMG and Chatterbox

fathom minnow
#

i may try it later i guess

hidden idol
#

Because I have skill issue and still didn't max one

maiden canyon
#

Nullifies the use of the red core tbh

#

So going for blue or yellow is more beneficial

maiden canyon
#

Completely busted

hidden idol
#

yeah

#

But my guess will be that there is still no list that includes all talents at max level?

maiden canyon
#

And unhinged is something like 180% weapons damage

maiden canyon
hidden idol
#

it seems to cap at level 10 for every talent

fathom minnow
#

ever like to shoot for the moon? level 10 unhinged will get you there

hidden idol
#

atleast this is what I read

maiden canyon
#

Counters it

hidden idol
hidden idol
full robin
fast dawn
fathom minnow
#

i meant its super funny as hell when you lose steady hands

maiden canyon
fathom minnow
#

one shot and you looks at the moon and stars

hidden idol
#

yeah, I can see that

fast dawn
maiden canyon
full robin
hidden idol
full robin
#

It affects them aswell

maiden canyon
#

It's useful to have riot foam charges or whatever else

fathom minnow
#

just straight up all blues all the way and you good. too many weapon boosters and amp damage

maiden canyon
#

Imagine breathe free and glass cannon

full robin
hidden idol
#

but I took... Outcast iirc

maiden canyon
#

I would suggest your first 2 cores would be yellow

#

Then all blues

fathom minnow
#

2 yellows for what?

maiden canyon
#

And make sure to have a skill that staggers

maiden canyon
fathom minnow
#

why?

maiden canyon
#

For riot foam. Firestarter. Any skill that will benefit you or the team

#

Blue early on doesn't have as much value as yellow

fathom minnow
#

i never pick offensive skills because nemesis will use it against you. just brute force past nemesis then you can do whatever you want.

maiden canyon
#

By having 2 yellows you'll have 3 charges

#

And can shoot nemi and shoot it's face

full delta
#

The leader boards for descent are god damn joke

gloomy pulsar
#

Ok, nemesis is a cheating bastard.

#

Spawns in invisible, and just one shots me from behind cover.

maiden canyon
#

Hunter AI is brutal. Always was

gloomy pulsar
#

Lack thereof I guess

maiden canyon
#

Though i wish if they were the same as div 1 where they were more tactical

gloomy pulsar
#

All that work, just to get bummed by a cheating AI

#

Now I know how 1st week summit players felt

maiden canyon
#

Not "I'm so tanky and i deal a ton of damage you'll have to stagger me or die" kind of enemy

gloomy pulsar
#

41 f*cking minutes just for an unceremonious 2 second nemesis cheesing me

#

Gotta love being motivated by youtuber runs, then to just have it thrown in your face

fathom minnow
#

lol....youtuber runs, what are those........petter

teal fiber
#

Are people cheating on descent mode?

fathom minnow
#

....yes?

fast dawn
gloomy pulsar
#

Was a fun run, up until that point

full delta
urban musk
#

im pretty sure the highest group loop is 141 but thats clearly cheating

#

the 2nd highest is 100 something

fathom minnow
#

most obvious evident of cheating and yet they are still playing the game. petter

twin geyser
obtuse flint
#

I’m currently on loop 33 and I’m convinced what’s gonna kill me above all is running out of ammo

urban musk
#

go pistol 🙂

obtuse flint
#

Against hyenas it was a miserable loop 32. Shield guys like crazy + healer running around picking them up

#

I feel like if I get outcasts I can survive with pistol

urban musk
#

hyenas are one of the more annoying ones

obtuse flint
#

And the rogue agents eat my bullets too

fast dawn
#

ive done about 10 runs so far and ive not seen a single rogue agent. Do i need to do something to make them spawn? Do they spawn at high loop? Cus the highest ive reached is 17

full delta
twin geyser
#

👌

urban musk
fathom minnow
#

The punishment is they get to play this game for the rest of their lives without the possibility of Division 3

obtuse flint
#

I actually got lucky and got outcasts 😂

open cape
#

damn im pretty shit at descent solo but i gotta say breathe free and a super 90 is a ton of fun. just keep running around the map one shotting pretty much everything

vestal mist
obtuse flint
#

And I think they can only come out of hard rooms. Cause this is my second time getting to like loop 22 with no rogues

twin geyser
obtuse flint
twin geyser
#

After loop 30 they're straight skill-spamming you with boosted armor and even crazier dmg

obtuse flint
#

Honestly I haven’t really had a hard time with them so far

#

High key prefer dealing with them than an actual 3 round room

#

I just run until they separate, get close to one, use a decoy, beam with shotgun + plague of the outcasts and repeat

twin geyser
#

Were you investing in blue or red cores?

obtuse flint
#

Currently loop 34 with 6 red 6 blue and 5 yellow

#

I seriously wish there was some kind checkpoint system. My wrist hurts from overuse

urban musk
#

whats the ideal path to start off descent

#

i usually go full red, is that good

obtuse flint
#

Yes. Just pick whatever room has the most reds

urban musk
#

how bout for the stats bit

obtuse flint
#

Cheese nemesis with special ammo.

#

Eh, I do red until I kill nemesis and then blue until I feel like I need more DPS

#

I did realize tho that leadership L10 kinda negates the need for more than 6 blue cores it seems

urban musk
#

i usually try to get status effect skills to help

obtuse flint
#

I’m convinced reviver hive and decoy is the way

#

Once you level up your skill haste all the way in the later levels, you can easily get back your reviver hive and use it multiple times in one room

#

I just died twice in one room 😂

#

@twin geyser Do you know if you’re not able to revive yourself from death with reviver hive without buying back revive token?

static parrot
#

As far as I knew, revive tokens are just for reviving team mates

twin geyser
twin geyser
obtuse flint
#

So decoy it is

twin geyser
#

Oh, understandable

#

But I hate it so much, when you double-tap for quick foam and end up being foamed yourself(

obtuse flint
#

I have to make a decision about whether or not I’m gonna end this run on 35/36. Cause if I live through this loop, I could leave my PlayStation on and continue when I wake up.

But if something happens I don’t get to see my match stats which would be sad af

obtuse flint
#

Nvm I died instantly on 35. Awesome

obtuse flint
static parrot
#

Good to confirm

#

I just assumed thats what they were for, never checked

obtuse flint
#

So it’s interesting that you can get golden bullet stars in descent, but they don’t count towards the progression of the rewards track

inland mist
twin geyser
#

I'm so pissed, that 30+ blueprints are locked behind descent and they're completely random, so you can't get them as stable as you did with CP 3-4

wispy tusk
pine siren
#

It's also entirely possible to spend hours in descent and not get a single one, the particular caches seem very rare

wispy tusk
#

i been farming cps for hours and imma be real sad if the stuff im after is in descent only

thorn urchin
#

so is it a random drop while ur doing descent or is it at a certain floor with a certain change?

wispy tusk
pine siren
wispy tusk
#

you get hoes dont you

wispy tusk
thorn urchin
#

only the hoe i wanted

twin geyser
normal spade
#

Anyone doing descentxbox

wispy tusk
obtuse flint
#

I was watching a streamer last night doing descent and his friends were spamming him asking for invites 😂😂

prisma knot
#

Just a question: if you are starting descent f.e. in a 2 man group and during the descent my friend receives a Delta-03. Will the number of npcs will be for 2 agents or is the system reducing the npcs then to 1 agent?

static parrot
#

I would think it would scale between rooms, as in if your team mate drops during room 1, room 2 should have solo scaling

#

but...with Massive it's hard to say how they do things

prisma knot
#

Thanks @static parrot . I had the feeling that there was no scale down. Made it from loop 9 to 17 alone then and although with each loop it should get harder I had the feeling I had npcs for 2 agents 🙈

static parrot
#

Thats just how I assume it works, I cant say for sure, I've only been running solo so far

obtuse flint
twin coral
#

So something I've gotta know, how often do exotic talents show up? Obviously there's the one at the end of L1, but aside from that I RARELY get any other exotics in my entire runs. Like I'm reaching L8-9 and still no extra exotic talents. I still haven't beaten Nemmy (generally playing solo or with 1 friend). Is it the classic case of Skill Issue or am I getting THAT unlucky?

pine siren
#

It's just luck, my first successful run (beating nemesis) I found 4 exotic stations by the end of loop 7. My most recent run actually had one at the end of loop 2.

full robin
twin coral
#

Yeah, thought so unfortunately. 1 run of mine I got all three by like L4 or 5 but choked (lmao) but it just feels so bad to have about 5 total runs (out of idk 50 runs) that have more than 1 exotic.

#

I'll probably keep mashing my head against the game mode until I get all the perma upgrades and maybe try some random matchmaking too

fervent patrol
open cape
#

i have no interest in putting in 6-12 hours of gaming to get a blueprint or two

uncut gate
#

Atleast do nemesis for projects. Its nice to get a collectible and hear a story behind it.

open cape
#

im waiting for them to re tool the game mode before i put time into it

brave bridge
#

anyone wants to help me get the nemisis? I need to do the weekly mission (12 hours left)

grizzled briar
#

its bugged if u do it now and check after kill nemesis project say not complete

#

u will get exotic cache but , u can do it again

uncut gate
hidden idol
grizzled briar
#

yep

desert pond
#

well that explains why i have so many

#

i thought you get 1 exotic every 5 loops because the math made sense in my case lol

grizzled briar
#

i hoop they dont ban us for this bug😂

desert pond
#

nah you cant do anything to prevent it

grizzled briar
#

u can play only 1 time per week

desert pond
#

lmao

twin geyser
#

sounds fair 👍

compact jewel
#

That's sick, I'm on a great run and my skill is glitched so I'm stuck with booster hive

compact jewel
full robin
cyan fox
#

5 in a row...............

#

I've seen it all

#

Give me ur rng luck NOW

fast dawn
twin geyser
fast dawn
#

oh dude imagine those with 100k SHD levels getting away

cyan fox
#

I mean
They've rolled back people before so I don't need to imagine petter

twin geyser
open cape
twin geyser
#

60-80 lvls a day is possible, but 700+ is definitely not xD

open cape
#

exactly

cyan fox
twin geyser
#

Imagine not touching floor 10, so we don't have any server issues...

cyan fox
#

Especially this that can give an absurd amount of levels even more than lau

#

Did

#

Both of those farms weredestroying the servers lol
I remember trying to do manning and it being unplayable cuz of the lag

#

Shit was so bloody annoying
Couldn't touch anything offsite

open cape
#

ive been noticing the game being kinda laggy and stuttery in the past few days. i lowered all my graphics to low settings and it didnt change a thing. plus my pc is powerful enough to run the game on high settings with no problems or low fps

pine siren
#

Lau and Anderson farms destroyed the servers, f10 didn't (still needed patching though)

#

I think golden bullet often causes its own server issues (like when your hits stop registering until you switch weapon or reload from empty)

open cape
#

yeah could be that

fast dawn
#

guys what do i do if the door closes on me?

upper smelt
#

Run is over if your locked out, it's a bug

hearty ingot
#

i was once stuck inside the doors

#

that was fun

desert nest
#

a pump shotgun with bullet hell and plague of outcasts is so op

#

well, i havent tried it with bullet hell but with plague its like “youre already dead” like 3 shots fills the plague stacks and you just hide and watch them die to the stacks

hidden idol
#

from what I experimented, shotgun doesn't add a lot of damage to outcast

#

sometimes my pistol was proccing more damage than the shotgun when Outcast Plague was stacked

#

Shotgun is good to apply, but other weapons are better to deal higher damage

river sapphire
#

for me rifle is way stronger dmg wise, way more fast and safe, and not as much work

#

with shotgun you can either rush and kill with a risk of taking damage, or have to wait for them to come to you, dont have that problem with a rifle at all

#

more work with a shotgun imo

#

pair it with a vector and you're solid

harsh trout
#

Seems like plague damage applied by the shotgun is based off how much of the spread hit. Whereas with any other gun it does actual bullet damage.

hidden idol
#

yeah, me guess is that the weapon damage showed is when you hit all pellets, however Plague takes 1 pellet as base damage

#

so let's say it has 4k weapon damage for 8 pellets.
4000/8 = 500 damage
It deals 75% of 500 as damage per stack

#

idk how many pellets are shot, just a example

cyan totem
desert nest
#

maybe it was cause i had level 3 overwatch on? does overwatch increase plague damage?

hidden idol
#

when weapon damage increases, so does plague afaik

desert nest
#

overwatch isnt weapon damage, its all damage, so maybe it increased both the weapon damage and the plague damage individually

hidden idol
#

I already experienced that, I stacked with a shotgun and enemy didn't receive a lot of damage. (2k or 4k weapon damage for the shotgun)

#

However the moment I changed for my magnum or Sniper, enemy died instantly (which was around 1.2k for the magnum or 2.5k for the sniper)

spiral moss
# twin geyser 60-80 lvls a day is possible, but 700+ is definitely not xD

if it was like you say, then such players would be banned XD
met an agent at the beginning of the season with 658176 levels and 13170 hours played, this guy is lvls up like 50 lvls an hour, can't attach a screenshot, but this shit is funy)
the way i see, developers only ban those agents who use bugs known to developers

twin geyser
#

13k hours is already a cyborg)

spiral moss
#

true)

raven lagoon
#

that's ISAC/ANNA just teaching itself to become a better AI. lol

#

nb4, "those are our learning bots, put in to place to play the game and learn from other players so we can take that knowledge and make our enemy AI smarter and deadlier"

#

we jut need to blow ourselves up more often and the enemies will become potatoes

gilded blade
#

The update doesnt involve the armor bug? Well rip..

raven lagoon
#

unbreakable? or a diff one?

gilded blade
#

Leadership and the repair kits dont work as it suppose to

#

Repair kit is literally a gamble if it pops if you use it

#

Atleast on PC

agile geyser
#

"Fixed the issue where friends could join a player already in Descent through the Ubisoft Connect interface"

So playing with your friends even in a broken state is something the devs are against got it

#

Maybe just make rejoin available entirely in a game mode than last hours

astral anchor
obtuse flint
#

Repair kit has also done that to me where it didn’t work, but leadership has been pretty solid. I haven’t had a single miss with that on solo

twin geyser
#

Devs priorities are just beyond our worst expectations

astral anchor
astral anchor
#

we can reconnect in Survival, just do copy-paste of this part of code to the TD2 xdxdxd

agile geyser
#

It pains me to be a d*ck to the devs because it's not really their fault if their team got split into pieces with an axe when Massive took on too many projects at once but to me stopping people from rejoining a very long game mode shouldn't even be something to fix..

In the patch notes they sent on twitter

agile geyser
astral anchor
#

I see, twitter, do they post patch notes in another web or so?

agile geyser
#

They posted them directly in a Trello card

astral anchor
#

actually I thought 18.1 will after some weels xd nice

#

its cool if they fixed join function, so no more exploits? so goodm people just will play for fun

raven lagoon
#

fixing the invite issue is probably faster than rewriting how the xp is rewarded/calculated. so even if they do decided to do that later, shutting down invites for now is pretty much required.