Bring Back Beginners immigration

[honest fox]

Removing the jump limit is a really bad idea

[tepid sierra]

if your project is actually well managed you should be able to take over your native kd

[honest fox]

That will just make the situation according to lilith even worse

[tepid sierra]

but if you rely on an unfair advantage then you dont reallt deserve it

thats just my opinion tho

So that 3k people can just come and take over a kingdom ruining the experience for new players trying to be native?

[honest fox]

I agree jumpers are technically unfair for players who are new or who want to be native

But,

I believe jumpers are needed in the sense that if a native whale shows up and starts being an ahole to everyone, whose gonna be able to stop them?

Native f2p sure as heck cant

[mental flint]

yet Lilith should know that it is us, the Jump projects, who bring them many new players

[north leaf]

i like this update no need to bring back

[marsh saddle]

not jumpers thats for sure

[drowsy timber]

I mean a jumper group can't stop a native rouge whale anyways until the LT is taken so you can king skill him out to zone 1. If he wants to power up to T5 on day 1 then go ham then no one is stopping him.

[honest fox]

Jumpers have a much better chance then a native f2p would

[tepid sierra]

its a normal cause

[honest fox]

Oh yea but thats a kraken lmao

[tepid sierra]

i mean if the person is able to do that

then I mean you can always organise with everyone in the kd to fight back

[honest fox]

Clashing ideals and values wont let it happen tho tbf

[tepid sierra]

the same thing is apliccable for jumper projects

and what is more of a treath? One person or an entire alliance of like 300 ppl?

[honest fox]

Well i would assume said whale has an alliance as well

Otherwise yea 300ppl win lmao

I would hope

[drowsy timber]

Yeh if the whale is alone he can't do anything cause no territory building

300 would win in that case

[honest fox]

Most they could do is tp around zeroing

Which even then can be prevented

[limpid charm]

You can still make groups(startup projects) and there won’t be too many native whales around considering many will join projects. There just won’t be the jumper aspect

[tepid sierra]

native projects are still possible

[limpid charm]

That’s what I mean

You just won’t have the week long “advantage”

[tepid sierra]

I just dont think its fair for new players trying to be native to get completely demolished by ppl who have been preparing for the past week

[mental flint]

Yes, but the power gap between the kingdoms that have made jumps and the newly created ones without jumps will be too great.

[drowsy timber]

Yeh but the thing is many are thinking it's the end of the world with just a loss to their initial starting power gain and don't realize that in the end nothing will change and you can still do em just without the power.

[honest fox]

I mean native and jumpers projects are the samething, basically just without the jump part for natives

[limpid charm]

I said this earlier but it got overlooked, you can power your way up before kvk 1 to be in a top alliance

[drowsy timber]

This is probs the first real valid point ive seen today

You sir win

[limpid charm]

Don’t get me wrong I much prefer the jumper aspect but it’s not world ending, it’s not killing the restart community

[drowsy timber]

[honest fox]

In my personal opinion, jumpers keep early game alive

After that its up to whoevers left really

[limpid charm]

I thought about that earlier but by SoC it just doesn’t matter, hell by kvk1 it doesn’t matter

[drowsy timber]

How dare u that shiny kvk 1 star matters

[limpid charm]

My bad

[honest fox]

Kvk1 been useless since they remove 8 kds kvk1

(Worst decision oat)

[drowsy timber]

Never really understood that

That was a horrible change

[honest fox]

To make it easier for newbies ig

[limpid charm]

Honestly jumping only benefits you 300-700k power prekingdom, which can be made up before Kingsland even opens

Saves you a little bit of money and a little bit of time

[drowsy timber]

At least they kept zenith to 8 kds still despite the kvk 1 change

would be such bs if they didn't

[limpid charm]

Kvk1 is 4 now right?

Kinda mid kvk

[honest fox]

Ye

[drowsy timber]

basically they just turned it into a semi HA map

[honest fox]

Kvk1 is so boring now

It used to be the best kvk (imo)

[limpid charm]

Kvk2 would be cool if every kingdom I play in it doesn’t give up within 72 hours of it starting

[honest fox]

But now its just boring af

[tepid sierra]

i always sit kvk1 out

man this kvk2 with me

was crazy

we had a whole civil war

and then a ceasefire

2 days into kvk

[limpid charm]

Me to lmao

[tepid sierra]

and then nothing happened

[honest fox]

My recent kvk1 was only fun cause we had a civil war and betrayal on our kingdom LOL

[tepid sierra]

and almost nobody had the required kp

and we had like a 5 mail deadweight list

[limpid charm]

Kvk1 we had massive civil war, kvk2 my kingdom gave up before we got to zone 2 really and then I quit and I’m back for a restart cause I didn’t like my account and it’s so far behind now

[drowsy timber]

Hard to do when everyone running epic commanders , not enough dps like SoC

and lots of em don't even have aoe either on top of that

[limpid charm]

Imma just build my little Baibars kvk1

[honest fox]

My problem with kvk1 is that the commander options are boring af

For f2p

[limpid charm]

Thutmose ong

F2P your only options are like Sun Tzu/CM lmfao

[honest fox]

Its sun tzu or die

[limpid charm]

If you are really smart you can make a cav march work

[honest fox]

Thats for ppl who grind 24/7

[tepid sierra]

Sun tzu is the GOAATTT

[limpid charm]

If you are f2p and want to be in main alliances you have to be constantly online pretty much

[split hinge]

Get this shi back man

[tepid sierra]

only real ones use sun tzu in soc

[drowsy timber]

reach 800k power by 8 UTC or ur kicked pov

[honest fox]

And have at least 2 farm accs

[tepid sierra]

literally every jumper project

[limpid charm]

Rss gathering sucks and just isn’t worth, most just buy at some point

[tepid sierra]

or zero ppl :)

[gusty flume]

It will happen even without jump

[limpid charm]

That to

[gusty flume]

Top 1 will be full of p2w

[honest fox]

Its not the gathering, its the having to build up multiple accs

[gusty flume]

So F2P will give up

[drowsy timber]

Aye true enough jumpers or no jumpers the top alliance will always be the spenders in the kingdom.

[limpid charm]

Try maintaining a t5 account only gathering

[honest fox]

I have

Im talking early game

Late game, just give up

Ur cooked

[limpid charm]

That’s why I grab the credit card

[drowsy timber]

dam we're at 2.1k

this chat got more than wjhat the general chat can produce in a week

[gusty flume]

U touch too something that’s jobless people care

That’s why I am here

No one can remove my jobless things

[honest fox]

My main problem for me is that removing jumpers, takes the hype and excitement out of new accounts

[gusty flume]

Yeah a bit

[limpid charm]

Slightly but it’s not world ending

You can still build a project

[austere cradle]

Nah dont do this shit

[unborn shale]

Finally a good day in riseofkingdoms🥳 if they only listen their costumers a years ago we wouldn't have over 50% of dead kingdoms, buy imagine that they also ban other migration so unskilled spanders couldn't jump and stealing rewards and simply migrate out...

[gusty flume]

I am still

[honest fox]

I have adhd, it is world ending for me

[drowsy timber]

[gusty flume]

U will see on next months nothing will change

Is just move the problem elsewhere

[mental flint]

Let's face it: the problem isn't Jump; on the contrary, it allows new players to partially bridge the power gap between p2w and f2p players. The real problem is that the game overly favors p2w players, often the most experienced. This leaves no room for new players. So there's no point in removing Jump; the result will be the same.

[limpid charm]

Trust me I’ve been waiting weeks to pull out my card to spend money, luckily my project starts in the next kingdom

[drowsy timber]

They are getting slightly better at lisenting to us but it's only in recent times.

if they will keep that up or not is to be seen

[limpid charm]

Ban players entirely ong

[honest fox]

Just be glad that this isnt the afk journey or afk arena dev team

Both of their communities are in flames and uproar

[tepid sierra]

ads in rok when?

[opaque berry]

I had an idea

[drowsy timber]

Never really understood how such a large company like Lilith fails to do their 1 job of keeping the community bridge active.

and connected

[tepid sierra]

probably the fact that they are so large

[opaque berry]

Allow beginners immigration BUT also have a way for newer people to catch up quickly (only after ch 8 so jumpers cant take advantage)

[honest fox]

Afk arena is so bad now that their straight up copy and pasting old patch notes into new ones

[drowsy timber]

I tried AFK arena for a while, but quit around the time whne they did that persona 5 collaberation.

[honest fox]

You quit at the golden age of afk arena

[unborn shale]

This is just illusion, my 7 days f2p jump could never overcame your spending

[limpid charm]

Some of those games are trash

[marsh nexus]

Jumpers are killing the new player experience

[tepid sierra]

fax

[limpid charm]

I got into Age of Empires Mobile a bit but not enough fighting so I’m back here

[drowsy timber]

That game was way too overhyped

Kept telling my buds it will be nothing like the PC port

[mental flint]

I'm well aware of that, which is why moving the problem won't solve it. The real solution would be to completely change the advantages that make p2w untouchable.

[drowsy timber]

It's gonna be a full on monitozed mobile game like any other

[honest fox]

Aoe was a straight up bait and dip lmao

[drowsy timber]

All AoE did was give RoK some leeway to steal ideas from them

[honest fox]

More like made lilith lock in for a few onths

Cause like 1-2 months after aoe released lilith locked in

And made good changes

[drowsy timber]

Ye gotta shut down ur competitors somehow

[limpid charm]

I spent like $5k lmao, maybe I’ll eventually go back but for now I’m done

[drowsy timber]

https://tenor.com/view/telepurte-pingu-noot-noot-gif-25837050

[honest fox]

Even cheesegule their like number 1 sponsor gave up

[drowsy timber]

fck gifs dont work

[tepid sierra]

lmao embed fail

[limpid charm]

I ran his project :)

But yeah he only shows up for the biweekly “kvk”

Fake ah 2 hour fight

Haven’t seen him make a video on it in months

[honest fox]

They made bro speak to a crowd about their game and he left after a month💔

[limpid charm]

He was at the last fight, but he makes more off his rok videos so he just stuck with that

[grim garnet]

Why

[honest fox]

I mean video wise ofc

[limpid charm]

Also very much does not pour any more money into the game

[grim garnet]

Why U are guys so ugly do U think if u delete the jump U well give the new players chance that was wrong

[honest fox]

Im surprised cod is doing better for him then aoe tbh

[limpid charm]

Dawg what 😑 jumps aren’t end all be all

Stay in one kingdom, then you don’t gotta worry about that

[grim garnet]

It's end for f2p

[drowsy timber]

well seeing how the main topic has veered off course for quite a while. It was nice chatting here. There were lots of good discussions. Gotta feed the cat and head off.

[blazing scarab]

Hey guys please keep this discussion related to the original suggestion, thanks

or we will have to lock discussion on it

[drowsy timber]

Dam predicted

Saw ruz typing, knew it

[blazing scarab]

[honest fox]

Summary: jumpers good and bad 👍

[limpid charm]

No it isn’t 😭

By kvk1 it doesn’t matter lil bro

[grim garnet]

Yes

[limpid charm]

I’ve been a kingdom native and joined top alliance as council joining then after there jump

[grim garnet]

They we'll be big difference between p2w and f2p

[limpid charm]

Obviously

[honest fox]

Always has been dude

[limpid charm]

Doesn’t matter if there’s jumps or not, spenders will always hold the advantage

[grim garnet]

Not that much

[honest fox]

Yes that much

[limpid charm]

300k power lil bro

[grim garnet]

Come on

[limpid charm]

Whales/Spenders can get that in 20 minutes

[honest fox]

Unless ur name is socksaregreat, 12inch, or logicbank ur not keeping up with spenders

[limpid charm]

A weeks worth of work for a f2p is $50 for a spender

[drifting echo]

I haven’t even finish Lucerne and I’m 7m power f2p🙈

[honest fox]

And ur kd is how old

[grim garnet]

In kvk 1 ?

[unborn shale]

when are they going to remove the beginner immigration?

[drifting echo]

3766

[honest fox]

26th of march

[limpid charm]

This game was never meant to be fair between f2p and p2w

[drifting echo]

14 day

[limpid charm]

We have 5 days till new accounts don’t get the migration ticket

[unborn shale]

thanks for the reply! Oof guess ill try my last jump account x,x

[honest fox]

Their just trying to make it as fair as they can for f2p while still catering to whales tbh

[drifting echo]

F2P deserve chance of being king

[grim garnet]

Why they want destroy this game

[honest fox]

Uhm

Most kings are f2p

Just whales hold king for buffs

[drifting echo]

Which wouldn’t be if not for whales getting them there

[limpid charm]

That’ll kill a kingdom