lore-discussion

[tribal talon]

Doesn’t matter, it’s still abuse

[silver vine]

when neighbor was completely gone insane

[tribal talon]

People are allowed to head canon what they want “lore master” I firmly believe he would hit his son.

[silver vine]

why would he

tho

[tribal talon]

Aaron screams when he’s being locked up

[slim ledge]

But a small kid doesn't go ahead and sees themselves in bad light. Young minds are easily influenced by their environment around them and the people they grow up with especially. If Aaron already called himself a 'bad omen' at a young age, then there's clearly something very wrong with how he views himself, because it definitely must've been influenced by the people around him

[tribal talon]

Exactlyyy

[slim ledge]

Kids don't have self esteem issues unless they're treated that way

[silver vine]

he calls himself as bad omen cuz he ruined the chance to change his family's fate

[tribal talon]

That does not justify what neighbor did to him

He’s just a kid

While this grown man had the AUDACITY to punish his son for committing man slaughter when he’s done it many times with his own rides

[slim ledge]

How old was he at that time? Because I'm trying to think how a young kid like that could grasp such immense consequences. Idk man this is fun honestly

[silver vine]

he doesnt """""""punish"""""""" his son for goodness sake

[tribal talon]

He does

[silver vine]

sure

you may want to reread the end of book 3

[tribal talon]

Nicky looks beat up, why wouldn’t Aaron?

You can’t change my head canon dude

[silver vine]

Aaron legit says "he just wanted to protect me, in his own horrible way he wanted to protect me, thats why he wont let me leave"

[tribal talon]

He does but still

Why is he screaming then? Why does he feel like his dad hates him?

[slim ledge]

Aaron justifying the abuse because peterson thinks it's protecting him, but it's genuinely messed up to lock your child up

[tribal talon]

Yes it IS

It’s horrible

[silver vine]

true

[slim ledge]

Ted is the only family he has left around him

[vernal kraken]

actually when I was that age I was convinced I was horrible for no reason

[slim ledge]

He's a kid

[silver vine]

he also screams in book 1

a year before HNHS

[tribal talon]

Dude why can’t you just accept it’s my head canon

Why are you trying to always prove people wrong

I’m positive that he is abusive to Aaron

[silver vine]

you cant change it

[tribal talon]

You have a weird mind then for believing Enzo would do anything like that

[silver vine]

ikr

[tribal talon]

It’s honestly not believable but okay

Other people have called you out for being gross about that

[silver vine]

new topic

[tribal talon]

Mhm

[silver vine]

guest eating Quentin

(hes tasty)

[slim ledge]

I'm going to bed now, good evening

[silver vine]

bye bye

[tribal talon]

Bye

[fiery phoenix]

Like i said

He has a tongue??

[silver vine]

always had

[fiery phoenix]

Br

[silver vine]

he had the tongue ever since prototype

see it here?

[fiery phoenix]

WH

I thought that was his whithered bonnie syndrome

[ancient apex]

bruh

[tribal talon]

Stay out of this 😐

It’s over

[ancient apex]

[ripe berry]

Wdym by that?

[slim citrus]

Haha fnaf joke

So funny

[jolly dragon]

Hi 🙂

[orchid pike]

I see it

that means...

[wicked heath]

Its part of the beak

[feral brook]

sup

[wicked heath]

(dats cardboard but alright)

[daring yacht]

i thought it was plastic

[wicked heath]

the wiki

bruh

It doesnt have that much good informations

and if it was wooden, it would be SO heavy

there is no way the neighbor/nottheneighbor can wear this on top of his head

its part of the beak i think

[tribal talon]

But the beak can move freely, right?

[fiery phoenix]

Like

It looks like his mouth is clipping into something

Isnt the guest a demon tho

Or have the fans gotten into my mind

Because in the comic

Apparently the guest took the form of someone else at one point??? Idk i dont read comics often

[gleaming violet]

the wiki💀

(totally has reliable info)

[shut kite]

§

[ripe berry]

§

[torpid sinew]

He also becomes ||Pris||

😔

Time to get out my evidence folder

[ancient apex]

“the evidence folder”

[floral bone]

the kid in his bacement is his son right because of hide and seek

[ancient apex]

yes we know that

[wicked heath]

Thats basic knowledge

[chrome sun]

I need one of those

[young chasm]

Just sending a screenshot of what could happen through out the sequel

(Not saying its confirmed or anything just my lore discussion)

[tame quartz]

Me when new kids ask about basic HN lore

[ripe berry]

Yeah that's true, but have you heard of Time loops being in this series, and that HN1's ending isn't the ending of the HN timeline

Oh, and whatever the Guest is

[toxic mist]

The guest causes time loops

His mouth is a portal to the guest world, every time quentin gets caught he gets transported to the guest world and has to escape

[hazy grotto]

So r u saying he vores u and ur just stuck in this time loop 😭😭

[toxic mist]

Yes

Guest vore

Why else would light be coming out of his mouth

I knew there were portals but I didn’t know they weren’t only the nests

It also sorta explains the smoke that comes out of the “guests” beak in reset day

And other books

So the guest has smoke coming out of its beak in hn2 but in this case light

Cuz it’s subjective and yeahhhh

Also if anyone says there are no portals then explain how the wether energy harnesser thingies are found in the nests

And why is it shaped like a nest as well, why not make it more secretive or inconspicuous

Hide it in a septic tank or something

The logic is -1

[ripe berry]

No, Mayak does that, HE ending proves so

[toxic mist]

So mayak causes time loops, may be true

Wether sensors harness energy

That’s also in the books

Been explained by Norman

[ripe berry]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-engineer-hello-neighbor-secret-neighbor-hello-neighbor2-hello-guest-gif-23614679

[toxic mist]

and I don’t exactly think all these things stopped

[ripe berry]

Look at the chalkboard in the background in this GIF

[toxic mist]

yes

what about it

actually wait

[ripe berry]

It has lightning strikes and a Clock and the ♾️ symbol on it

[toxic mist]

it’s the equation from the books

remember

the parents found the equation for the sensors or whatever

[ripe berry]

The clock and ♾️ symbol mean Time loops

[toxic mist]

what they do

[toxic mist]

aight bet

so they are in time loops, why not resetting themselves from the beginning then

actually

to answer my own question because the loop wasn’t broken

[ripe berry]

Sandbox mode

[toxic mist]

it broke a bit before reset day

[ripe berry]

Sandbox mode is Time Loop

[toxic mist]

well it’s a free roam spin off but sure

mayak has gone haywire

so basically Norman and co wanted to keep the balance but all the series of unfortunate events caused it to break somehow

and they were scared of the parents finding them cuz they were scared of it ending up in the wrong hands

makes sense

also there ARE multiple wether sensor things

not just one stability gem

[ripe berry]

Because a weather station burns down in GN2

[toxic mist]

which is the one Aaron “visits”

and mayak is also in old town

and there is train

is there a train near the one Aaron breaks into?

don’t think so last time I checked

there is old town and new town

they are split up somehow

might be explained more in the show

if there even is a show anymore

[ripe berry]

I think old town is the HN2 Alpha Neighborhood and new town is the main Raven Brooks

[toxic mist]

so basically mayak has been abandoned and the one they show on the map in the pilot is the actual meteostation

so you think hn2 takes place in old town

actually nevermind it doesn’t

neighbs house is in “new” town

from show and first game

but of course the houses are factitious

[gleaming violet]

factitious

[toxic mist]

hn makes you feel 6 emotions at once

[gleaming violet]

huh

alpha isn't canon

[toxic mist]

you do know it’s the beta right

[gleaming violet]

lmao

[toxic mist]

I mean even if the alphas are canon it could mean it happens in an altered timeline or in the guest world

makes complete sense to me

[gleaming violet]

but they aren't canon

[ripe berry]

Also there is two Neighbor Houses because the house must burn down for Act 3 of HN1, but also has to exist in 2021/2022

[toxic mist]

t i m e l o o p s

[gleaming violet]

HN fans saw that the alphas had lore hints and started claiming that the alphas are canon

because

thats society for you

[ripe berry]

I deleted those posts

[toxic mist]

industrial society and its future

[gleaming violet]

huh

[toxic mist]

they don’t exist in the same time

remember reset day is literally in a time loop

[ripe berry]

Book 7 is in 2021/2022, Act 3 is either 2015 or 2017, I don't remember which

[toxic mist]

it could be modern day for the family but not for everyone else

[crude pasture]

2017

[toxic mist]

there’s probably like 18 people lurking here I swear

[ripe berry]

You think Mayak wouldn't also malfunction over Ted's house

[toxic mist]

yes

mayak is really sensitive around his house

they had a bad relationship

also the event is called mayak

[ripe berry]

Heck, Ted just existing in Raven Brooks causes The Raven Brooks Weather Station to make storms in the area

[toxic mist]

the house isn’t even called mayak

by event I mean time loop

[gleaming violet]

💔 🏠

[toxic mist]

purple storm and brain farts

and portals to the upside down

makes sense to me

[ripe berry]

And the storms can cause time loops if used correctly

[toxic mist]

anyone know what the eye symbolizes

and why all the bird eyes are closed

hmmmm

[ripe berry]

It is just a vandalized Weather Radar

[toxic mist]

nahhh

no shot

[ripe berry]

Or something like that

[toxic mist]

do you really think vandals just climbed onto the radar and painted the hell out of it for their own enjoyment

[ripe berry]

Yes

[toxic mist]

listen here bub-

[ancient apex]

i mean they are vandals

[ripe berry]

Hello Guest is still canon you know

[toxic mist]

sure yeah kinda

it’s probably is

just unfinished

will probably introduce beatrix and be a part of the main story

[ripe berry]

If they would go and destroy a 4/5 year old amusement park then they would certainly vandalize the nearby weather station

[toxic mist]

I don’t really think it’s true but ok

it might’ve got an eye from all the lightning it endured

or it was built that way

either way, mayak is mythical

[gleaming violet]

no its not

[toxic mist]

I think it does, but I could be wrong

[ripe berry]

It kinda is

[gleaming violet]

HG A1 and HGP aren't canon

and they never were

[ripe berry]

It will be a part of HN2

[gleaming violet]

please cry

[toxic mist]

hn beta 4 is canon tho

[gleaming violet]

doesn't make it canon

[toxic mist]

where Nicky climbs the top of the mill

[toxic mist]

cope

[ripe berry]

Therefore I can still use stuff from it as canon until proven not

[toxic mist]

true

the story is very

eh

[gleaming violet]

doesn't mean HG is canon

[ripe berry]

And what I used is not a lot and is basically one of core mechanics of HG and where Mayak is

[toxic mist]

doesn’t establish itself very well without mods

[ancient apex]

no, it’s still an alpha, it’s like saying hn2 alpha 1 is canon

[toxic mist]

meaning it’s on a mountain

[gleaming violet]

people say that

[toxic mist]

no train at all

[wicked heath]

everything is canon until it changes

[toxic mist]

never mind scratch that

[wicked heath]

therefore everything from the beta is canon

[gleaming violet]

not how it works

[toxic mist]

there are train sounds

making it canon

[wicked heath]

until the full game changes it

[ripe berry]

I was about to say train sounds play near it

[gleaming violet]

a

[ripe berry]

I mean, people started looking for lore in HE during the Early Access phase

[toxic mist]

:train:

[gleaming violet]

yes HG has lore hints

but thats it

[toxic mist]

but it was early access….

[gleaming violet]

its still non canon

[wicked heath]

and they can until the full releases

[ripe berry]

Even tho that all could've changed

[ancient apex]

it doesn’t mean HG is completely canon

[toxic mist]

alphas have lore hints

end of story

[wicked heath]

its not very canon anymore

[toxic mist]

how else would we know about smith so early on anyway

also imagine his real name is smith

how comical would that be huh

[gleaming violet]

its not canon at all, it just has some lore hints

[gleaming violet]

comedy

[ancient apex]

yeah

[toxic mist]

still lore hints

teasers

[ripe berry]

We use those hints until the hints are proven wrong/right

[toxic mist]

how else do you expect them to establish their rinky dink storyline without a couple leaks here and there

as an indie team

[gleaming violet]

if you say the alphas are canon then i can say that A posing guest in guest world is canon

ratio

[toxic mist]

alphas are not canon but they do have lore hints

/teasers

even just the guest and not Peterson too

is a big lore hint

[gleaming violet]

thats what i have been trying to say for like 6 hours

[toxic mist]

that’s what I’m saying brooo

no way!

!!!!!!????

[ripe berry]

HN2 Alpha 1 was the first hint that Guest and Ted are 2 different beings, even tho it is kinda iffy right now about if Guest is Ted

[toxic mist]

whadu mean iffy

[ripe berry]

Because books say yes, HN2 teasers say no

[toxic mist]

i am skating and crying michael

[gleaming violet]

HN 2 teasers show him as the guest

[wicked heath]

they are both seperate and the same

[ripe berry]

And also show him seperate

[toxic mist]

bro

[wicked heath]

as books says yes but possibly no

[gleaming violet]

this is why i hate indie game lore

[ripe berry]

Welcome to Hello Neighbor

[wicked heath]

the guest is one of us in this chat

[ripe berry]

Where the lore is confusing

[gleaming violet]

every indie horror game

[ripe berry]

Who is it?

[gleaming violet]

your mom

[wicked heath]

thats what we need to figure out

Who is it?

Is it you Mike??

[ripe berry]

Who in this chat is the Guest

[toxic mist]

There is an impostor among us

[ripe berry]

No

[wicked heath]

Mike sus

[gleaming violet]

amogus funny

[toxic mist]

shut

[wicked heath]

i saw we vote him out

[toxic mist]

I will call the cops

[ripe berry]

Sure, I has Neighball PFP

But I not Guest and/or Guestball

[gleaming violet]

Neighball sucks

flatbor is chad

[toxic mist]

also Ted is driving the car in this btw

look at his little eyes

[ripe berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720318918165659779/941381203792134214/Hello_Neighbor_2__Coming_to_PlayStation__Extended_Beta_trail.gif

[toxic mist]

so cute

[gleaming violet]

so anyway

[wicked heath]

this looks like bloody river

[gleaming violet]

new trailer implies museum is outside of raven brooks

[toxic mist]

give me one good reason why ted is not sus

[gleaming violet]

just like the e3 trailer

[ripe berry]

That is real HN2 footage but with some text added

[wicked heath]

but it seems to be near

[wicked heath]

ik

[gleaming violet]

in gameplay it does

[wicked heath]

i saw the trailer

[gleaming violet]

but in trailers its outside of raven brooks

[toxic mist]

bruh the beta lore boutta make no sense at all

[gleaming violet]

because ted is leaving Raven Brooks in the trailer

[toxic mist]

imagine all the npcs are scrapped

[gleaming violet]

but in gameplay its like 2 blocks away from the neighbors house

eh raven brooks has never been consistent

ever

[toxic mist]

Otto, spiffy or whatever the dogs name is, gerda, tweed, Peterson, the guest, imbir, wuen tong

[wicked heath]

can confirm

[ripe berry]

He is just trying to get some kilm, you kinda can't shop for food and drinks in your town if you are a criminal

[gleaming violet]

so like

where is he getting milk

[toxic mist]

whats the dogs name

[ripe berry]

From a nearby town and/or the city

[gleaming violet]

"the city"

they need a name for it

[toxic mist]

Missouri

[wicked heath]

the ned

[gleaming violet]

thats the name of the state

[ripe berry]

But what is the city's name?

[wicked heath]

the city

dats it

[gleaming violet]

it might be a fictional city

the buildings are too tall for it to be any real Missouri city

[wicked heath]

alpha 4

[gleaming violet]

welcome to alpha 3

[wicked heath]

alpha 3 was old ravenbrooks name

it was better imo

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[gleaming violet]

no it wasn't

[wicked heath]

joke but hey

[gleaming violet]

alpha 3 is a stupid name

for a town

in Missouri

[wicked heath]

but alpha 3 school

alpha 3 market

:D

[gleaming violet]

then again one of the citys in missouri is kansas city which is probably more stupid

you can never trust the people that name places in missouri

[wicked heath]

ah i remember the time i moved in alpha 1

[ripe berry]

Yes, it is I, the Guest

(Joke)

[gleaming violet]

yes it is I, sensevision

[wicked heath]

hey guys lets all turn to the guest

[gleaming violet]

sure

[wicked heath]

and start a new cult: Forest protectors 2.0

[gleaming violet]

wow

[wicked heath]

and here

[gleaming violet]

i really feel like a forest protector now

[ripe berry]

Welcome to the Forest Protectors 2.0

[gleaming violet]

cool

[wicked heath]

we gotta find another name

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[gleaming violet]

sensevision gang

[wicked heath]

Nice

[ripe berry]

Nice

So, what do we do

[wicked heath]

we commit storms

and we get what we want from it such as: Beta

[ripe berry]

Time to go commit storms

[floral bone]

When does secret neighbor take place and when does hello neighbor 2 start

The timeline is confusing

[gleaming violet]

Secret Neighbor happens in-between act 1 and 2

Hello neighbor 2 starts right after act 2

[sullen saddle]

your right

[tribal talon]

wnet to use stadia and it aint supported in australia :/

[silver vine]

no

just no

the workers say that its been 25 years since the park got covered in concrete

and, park got covered in concrete in 1996

do math and tell me when exactly book 7 takes place

anyway, why are you ppl having guest in your pfps

[silver vine]

you sure?

it looks like the mayor of the town lives right next to the museum

and the museum is also across the street from Raven Brooks Banner

[gleaming violet]

so are you saying

act 3 is not in 2017

[silver vine]

yes I am saying

act 3 is in 2017

[gleaming violet]

wh

but

you

just said it wasn't...

[silver vine]

you misunderstood what I said

[gleaming violet]

no

you misunderstood what he said

[silver vine]

ok ye

[crude pasture]

💀

[silver vine]

I thought you said reset day was in 2017

[gleaming violet]

the cutscene parts do

[silver vine]

lemme see

[gleaming violet]

well

the trailer literally

shows peterson leaving RB

presumably to the museum

but then the gameplay shows the museum being like 2 blocks away from his old house

[crude pasture]

Raven brooks has never been consistent

please calm down

[silver vine]

this is cutscene part

looks like museum is in the town

[gleaming violet]

like

the start of the trailer

[silver vine]

the start does show Ted leaving the town

[gleaming violet]

to where

[silver vine]

somewhere

to get supplies ig

he couldnt visit the local stores

[gleaming violet]

Unnamed Place, Missouri, USA

[gleaming violet]

maybe he went to the city

[silver vine]

ye prob

I have two theories as to why Ted left the town, but came back

[shut kite]

to buy groceries

[gleaming violet]

he went to anytown, usa

[shut kite]

he went to new york

[gleaming violet]

i mean the city background in HN 1 does kinda resemble it...

[silver vine]

1. he came back to the town cuz his car was very damaged and wasnt able to take him far away from the town
2. he went to buy groceries so that he was could sustain both him and Aaron
3. first, he did plan to leave the town, but he changed his mind and came back for certain reasons

[gleaming violet]

but

[silver vine]

who pinged me here

[ripe berry]

I did, I deleted the comment/post/whatever they're called because it was already outdated when I posted it

Sorry for another ping

[silver vine]

ok

[fiery phoenix]

Why is it shown that Quentin is entering Wayrom Croobs with his own map unsure of the place despite his van being for the Wayron Croobs Nebbar

[ancient apex]

why is he outside of raven brooks in the first place

[fiery phoenix]

exactly

Why is he on the WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD

[ancient apex]

many questions

[silver vine]

hes moving into the town

[fiery phoenix]

why does he have the van though

WAIY

Wait

Does this mean

Okay if Quentin works for the banner

And jay roth does too

[ancient apex]

but his van already has the sign already

raven brooks banner sign

[fiery phoenix]

Will we finally get to eat Ho Hos with Jay

Or did Quentin replace Jay

[silver vine]

Quentin works for the TV channel wing of the banner while Jay works for main HQ, which produces newspaper

[silver vine]

they prob sent him the van

[ancient apex]

how do you send a fricking van

[silver vine]

using a driver

[fiery phoenix]

UHaul

[ancient apex]

wouldn’t the driver just pick Quintin up instead

[fiery phoenix]

Or in wayron croobian

[silver vine]

oh ye like this

they hauled the van to the place Quentin lives

they also gave him the map

[fiery phoenix]

Luauh

[silver vine]

using the van and the map, he came to Raven Brooks

[gray dome]

Why can't he just

Come himself

Move there

Get the van

Ez

Also does Quentin even have a house in RB

[ripe berry]

They modified the Banner building until Quentin can get a new home

[woeful fable]

Is this a debating ?!

[orchid pike]

the neighbor litterly lives in the museum

[gleaming violet]

thanks for telling me something i have known for like a year now

[fiery otter]

We all crap on Peterson for moving 2 blocks away from his house in the beta

[gleaming violet]

i mean the start of the trailer shows him leaving the town

but then

[fiery otter]

But it seems like Gray Manor might have been on the same street as Peterson's house

[gleaming violet]

hes suddenly 2 blocks away

[gleaming violet]

evidence? source?

[fiery otter]

This here is my proof

In Alpha 2

[gleaming violet]

oh shit

[fiery otter]

Peterson's house was right next to the edge of a hill

[gleaming violet]

wow

you know what

peterson should have really just

left the town

forever

[fiery otter]

And then right here we can see that Gray Manor is at the top of the hill

[gleaming violet]

that version of raven brooks is like

uglier then the HN 2 alphas

look at that shitty version of "the city"

the buildings are literally boxes without lights

it looks so much better now

[fiery otter]

So yeah, Peterson is an idiot

[gleaming violet]

yup

he should have left and gone to "the city"

[fiery otter]

Or just hid in GAAP

[gleaming violet]

heck thats where he is at the start of act 3 (in "the city")

but then again EGS does not want to leave Raven Brooks

[fiery otter]

I mean, there's a theory that he's repairing his car in the beta in order to get out of Raven Brooks

[gleaming violet]

if they are gonna keep on using RB they should atleast try and make each version somewhat consistent

[fiery otter]

I liked the old map other than the city

The old map had some consistency

[gleaming violet]

probably to go to "the city"

which would lead nicely into act 3 ig

[fiery otter]

If Peterson actually hid out in GAAP and built the den

Would the police investigate?

[gleaming violet]

probably

[slim citrus]

thats not the real map

[fiery otter]

We've mentioned before that Gray Manor changed every time we saw it

But the map itself also changed a few times in the footage we saw

[fiery otter]

Obviously as I mentioned before, Peterson's house is on the same street as Gray Manor thanks to it being right next to the hill

Yet in the same trailer, we see footage of that same street

And Peterson's house is not right next to the hill

There's a pretty long street that leads up to Peterson's house

It's hard to see, but that is Peterson's house in the background

Here's a closer shot

[jolly dragon]

Ello

[feral brook]

ello

[ripe berry]

Ello

[ripe berry]

Alpha 2 is superior vs Alpha 2 is superior

[ripe berry]

Yes we do

[ancient apex]

peterson already has a lot of attention

he’s wanted by the police

[fiery otter]

Yet they can't seem to find him when he's right there by his house

[ancient apex]

true

[ripe berry]

Hello Neighbor logic makes no sense

[brisk bobcat]

pretty much

not to the point of some other games like fnaf

[ancient apex]

fnaf is just random stuff squished into a story and called “lore” now

[brisk bobcat]

yes!

[gray dome]

🤨

as someone who actually understands fnaf lore
this is wrong :troll:

[tribal talon]

zeiss got 🤨'd

[gleaming violet]

there is no such thing

[brisk bobcat]

head canon

[shut kite]

alpha 2 is not superior

[silver vine]

I dont think so

he prob lives at WCB

[ancient apex]

no I’m pretty sure he has a house there, the 5 minute gameplay shows us that

[silver vine]

it was the 5 min gameplay which showed us that he lives in WCB

[ancient apex]

the place he wakes up in doesn’t look like WCB, when he opens the door it cuts to the station

it isn’t the same place

[silver vine]

I have proof that its the same place

[ancient apex]

show

[silver vine]

can you see the cabary

[ancient apex]

what

[silver vine]

can you see the bakery?

[silver vine]

this is the shot of Quentin opening the door at what you call as "his house"

but you can see the bakery from "his house"

[gleaming violet]

the what

[silver vine]

and you can also see the exact same shot of the bakery at WCB

[ancient apex]

hmm

it’s possible he could be living in WCB

[ancient apex]

also why are you trying to act smart with your “his house”

[ancient apex]

very smart

[gleaming violet]

he doesn't act smart

he trys to

[ancient apex]

lmao true

[gray dome]

(There is)

[fiery otter]

We're all smart about certain parts of the franchise

And we're smart when we need to be

[pale urchin]

Imagjne if the bakery had another cake puzzle like the first game did with the mannequins

[wicked heath]

Their models are interesting tho

One even pushed my cart till the end with all my possessions. What a nice fellow

[errant hazel]

Yeah, that happened to me too

[tribal wraith]

L

[silver vine]

its not possible, its confirmed

I have another evidence

[boreal crow]

Same

[shell spire]

Hey, is the weather sensor from the books inside the golden apple the guest holds?

[jolly dragon]

Hi

HI

🤤

I have seen people playing hello neighbor2 on YouTube it is not out right??🤨

[wicked heath]

where

the alphas?

[jolly dragon]

..

Idk

It is only alpha 1and1.5

Right?

[ancient apex]

yes hello neighbor 2 isn’t out yet

[jolly dragon]

Ok

👌

[ripe berry]

No

[shell spire]

The thing in the test pilot is the sensor im pretty sure

[ripe berry]

No, that's a gemstone from Reset Day

Unless you mean the radar, in which case is still a no

[wicked heath]

i think he meant the fortune device

[ripe berry]

All luck devices are buried at the end of the Aaron books

[shell spire]

Gemstone?

[chrome palm]

AA

the man behind the slaughter

AAAA

[woeful halo]

Hmm

[weary patrol]

Hello

I think that hello guest should be a chat you know

[tribal talon]

Hello

[fiery otter]

HG is HN2, and so it should remain in the HN channel

[weary patrol]

Thank you

[vital meteor]

Wait...

Is HG in HN2 just different style?

[weary patrol]

Sort of

[gleaming violet]

no not sort of

HG is HN 2

same game

[finite steeple]

s

[gleaming violet]

when does Hello Engineer take place

[sterile forum]

Hmmm

[loud tartan]

Between HN1 and HN2 ?

don't remember

[sterile forum]

Golden Park apple bro@loud tartan

[gleaming violet]

because all i know is that its after H&S and supposedly before HN 2

[sterile forum]

Hmm maybe hello engineer not with hello neighbor 2 story

Different stories

[loud tartan]

ik but in the timeline

[sterile forum]

Oh

[loud tartan]

& free ping :I

[sterile forum]

Maybe no body know

[silver vine]

hes asking "when" it takes palce

not where

[sterile forum]

Lol okay

[gleaming violet]

tiny crow

you are the "lore master"

so tell me

when does it take place?

[silver vine]

its not revealed yet

[ancient apex]

tiny crow isn’t the lore master confirmed

[fiery otter]

Hello Engineer probably takes place around the time of Secret Neighbor

Because they're both games that are almost fully in the kids' imagination where they go against Peterson

[shell spire]

Im pretty sure the events of secret neighbor are real, we see in the pilot of the TV that they are planning the break into the house.

[ancient apex]

not how it works

[proper isle]

So when I watched the Hello Neighbor animated show, I noticed how they got lunched out of the house on the left near the end of it. And in Hello Neighbor 1 in the intro cutscene where you run to your ball, you can go to the left house and find a dig site and the error teleporter. So does this house to the left of the neighbor’s house have more importance?

If your confused on what I mean I will explain further if anyone wants

[errant hazel]

I don't think so

[silver vine]

secret neighbor is an imaginary plan of Nicky's friends to break into the basement and save him

its technically like HN1 acts 2/3

it takes place inside the mind

[woeful halo]

ias

[rigid patio]

Why isn't there a hello neighbor hide and seek chat

[fiery otter]

Because it's mixed into the general HN chat

Just like HN 2

[hazy slate]

it's real but it's not at the same time. the entire game takes place in the lobby area. A round of SN is them going over ideas to break into Ted's house.

the lobby is real

everything else is not

[gray dome]

I wonder
do these blueprints have any significance
at like all

[wooden pine]

yes

[gray dome]

ok nvm i can read what some of it says but i cant tell what the bottom says

[fiery otter]

Maybe it's the final boss of HN 2
Where goose rides a goose car and you have to kick soccer ball bombs at him

[gleaming violet]

lore

[slim citrus]

69/??

420/??

[sterile forum]

Hmmm what

Maybe this to make transition

[slim citrus]

It’s the secret funny number

If you enter it you get the hello neighbour ### ending

Real

[sterile forum]

Hello neighbor 1 ?

[slim citrus]

Nope

[sterile forum]

Hello neighbor what ?

[lucid timber]

He

[ripe berry]

Neighbor 2

[jolly dragon]

hi

[sterile forum]

Hi

[ancient apex]

what the

[wicked heath]

dats looks a bit..... umm....

[ripe berry]

how do we word this...

[wicked heath]

dont

keep the innocence in

and its good

[ancient apex]

[sterile forum]

Nice

[tribal wraith]

Hi

[sterile forum]

Oh nice

U see me edit my massage 😂 😂

[oblique drum]

massage

[sterile forum]

Oh hi

[ancient apex]

lmao

[wicked heath]

the joke is that someone shouldnt edit a message that has only 1 emoji

[sterile forum]

[wicked heath]

(cus honestly i cant tell if u got it or not)

[tribal wraith]

Hi

[sterile forum]

Woah

[sterile forum]

How are you bro

[tribal wraith]

Good

[sterile forum]

I don't write anything

[ancient apex]

#off-topic

go talk there

[silver vine]

https://tenor.com/view/edited-tf2-meet-the-medic-gif-22002258

[hazy slate]

I don't think anyone gets the joke.

[ripe berry]

Meet the Soul Harvester

[jolly dragon]

ello

[ripe berry]

Hello I like crow

[wicked heath]

deja vu moment

[sterile forum]

Hello

[woeful halo]

what

[jolly dragon]

hi

[ancient apex]

thanks

anyways back to lore

[silver vine]

lore

[ripe berry]

Skopper

[daring yacht]

rat dog

[ripe berry]

Skipper is a Dog. Dog spelled backwards is God. Therefore Skipper is a God.

[tribal talon]

hmmm

you're on to something

[ripe berry]

There is already a chat that figured that one out

It's called #918995318488576040

[rotund bay]

Xd

[fiery phoenix]

i have a lore question

if skipper is a pitbull

does that mean he has mauled a child at one point

[wicked heath]

what

but-...

[gleaming violet]

stereotype

[fiery phoenix]

its a joke shut up

attack

basically brutally hurt

because pitbull

people stereotype pitbulls to attack children because theyre aggressive

[shrewd dove]

profound lore

[slim citrus]

That dog is so ugly

Jesust

[gleaming violet]

that dog makes me miss imbir tbh

[tribal talon]

Better?

Just Imbir and Skipper

[placid current]

😳

[steel oracle]

does anybody understand what the bird man is?

[tribal talon]

The Guest

that's it

[steel oracle]

but what is he?

do we know?

[wooden pine]

No we don't but people think they do

[tribal talon]

Not really

[slim citrus]

he is nft and i have proof

[tribal talon]

wdym?

[slim citrus]

neighbor for trailer

[pale urchin]

Isn't he a bulldog?

Isn't skipper actually a bulldog, like look at the eyebrows and tell me if its a pit bull or not, and even then, bulldogs has a shorter length to its body than its height

[pale urchin]

Explains why the gates are closed, because we're the devil

[tribal talon]

He looks like a French bulldog

[tribal talon]

That's actually a sailor cloth

[misty kindle]

hello guys

I have a theory

I think the weird shadow man is the neighbor's wife

[woeful halo]

yeahh but

Then why does she haunt him?

[misty kindle]

because she is evil

idk

[woeful halo]

yeahhhh

Is talking abt who the bad guy in the new game lore? :Fr i cant type

[ancient apex]

why, how

[loud tartan]

The Shadow is an Representation of the Fear

[ancient apex]

true

[loud tartan]

It's Nicky's fear right ?

[ancient apex]

nicky’s fear yes

but the neighbor has one too

the smaller shadow man

[loud tartan]

Lil' shadow man

[misty kindle]

whos nicky

[loud tartan]

The Player

[ancient apex]

yes and the shadow man is definitely not the neighbor’s wife

[misty kindle]

oh ok

what about the bird man

[ancient apex]

a creature

[misty kindle]

I think he is the neighbor's son from hide and seek

[ancient apex]

bruh

[misty kindle]

he escaped from the basement

[misty kindle]

and wanted revenge

and locked his father

it has sense

[ancient apex]

pain

[misty kindle]

why

[loud tartan]

Aaron can do beam light with his beak yes yes

[ancient apex]

very true

[misty kindle]

a flashlight

in his mouth

[ancient apex]

he’s also a child still

[misty kindle]

a teenager maybe

[ancient apex]

no way he’s the guest which is basically the tallest character apparently

no

[loud tartan]

Slender man yes

[ancient apex]

yes very slender man

[loud tartan]

Nicky is still a child like Aaron in HN2

[ancient apex]

yep

[misty kindle]

and what happened to him

[loud tartan]

There's no ways to Aaron to be guest

[ancient apex]

he’s still locked in the basement my guy

[loud tartan]

Eating Chinesse food

yes yes

[ancient apex]

yes yes

[misty kindle]

and why the police does not let him free

in hello neighbor 2 the police is in neighbor's house

[ancient apex]

actually no, he’s somewhere else, at least in the beta

Aaron is most likely in the attic of the museum

[loud tartan]

Ted Probably moves Aaron in the Museum

so

[ancient apex]

yep

[loud tartan]

they can't find him

[misty kindle]

or he is dead

[ancient apex]

no

[loud tartan]

nah

Mya is ded

but not him

[ancient apex]

yes yes very sad

[loud tartan]

Sad moment

[ancient apex]

youtuber heartbreak moment

[misty kindle]

well

so the shadow man could be the bird man

[ancient apex]

nah

[misty kindle]

the shadow has light in its eyes

[ancient apex]

well

[loud tartan]

It's an "Urban Legend"

[ancient apex]

the shadow man is the representation of fear so idk why it would be an actual living being, but hello neighbor after what’s happening now it wouldn’t be surprising

still though, i doubt it’s the shadow man

[loud tartan]

I don't think the drawing in the Museum of a dad sending a girl in the attic could be the guest

[ancient apex]

guest is some creature, best explanation

[loud tartan]

yeah

[misty kindle]

from where

[loud tartan]

From Nowhere

[ancient apex]

real

[loud tartan]

Also Guest World is cannon

[ancient apex]

🥶

[loud tartan]

When the Guest catches you with his beam of light, he sending you in the Guest World

[misty kindle]

and what happens there

[loud tartan]

Nothing happens i guess

[misty kindle]

there are more bird mans

[loud tartan]

maybe ?

we don't know

[ancient apex]

the ravens are a thing

[misty kindle]

from bird world

[ancient apex]

no

it’s a cult basically

[loud tartan]

Pretty much why the town is called Raven Brooks

[ancient apex]

yep

[loud tartan]

or Wayron Croobs

[ancient apex]

very beautiful name

[loud tartan]

The Wayroncroobian name is better then in English

[ancient apex]

kinda idk

[feral brook]

thanks

[ancient apex]

i like both

[ancient apex]

breh

[feral brook]

💀

[ancient apex]

there’s another theory..

[feral brook]

a new theory? or what

[ancient apex]

the diane is shadow man theory

[oblique drum]

its a hint

it shows that theres a hidden attic that we need to get to

[ancient apex]

yeah

[oblique drum]

people who havent seen any of the trailers but play the game will actually be suprised

[loud tartan]

Hmm yes, Ted is the Guest yes yes

[ancient apex]

REAL

[feral brook]

bruh

[ancient apex]

if you scroll up a bit you’ll see what i mean

indeed

[feral brook]

I think he didn't read any books

[ancient apex]

well he didn’t know who nicky was so i guess

bruh

[loud tartan]

brah

[ancient apex]

there we go

grammar achievement

[loud tartan]

Edited comment Achievement

[ancient apex]

true

[feral brook]

oh yeah aaron holds a flashlight in his mouth

[ancient apex]

also saying diane was evil was just like bruh

[loud tartan]

Diane is cooking bread, very evil

[ancient apex]

very evil

[feral brook]

she's a bad omen

[ancient apex]

real

[loud tartan]

Fake real

[ancient apex]

it’s real yall

[loud tartan]

Big Guest is very canon

[ancient apex]

REAL

but also lore discussion so

[loud tartan]

Anyways lore is good

[ancient apex]

lore is cool

mayak eye ball thing? ye pretty epic ngl

[feral brook]

[silver vine]

well, it isnt

[silver vine]

the 5 min gameplay confirms that hes in the attic of the museum

[torpid sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[ancient apex]

felt the same when i read that 😔

[fiery otter]

https://tenor.com/view/face-palm-oh-no-oh-god-damnit-damn-gif-10780870

[wicked heath]

for god sake

[fiery otter]

Dianne was secretly the mother/witch from Hansel and Gretel and only Ted could kill her

[ancient apex]

dianne was secretly the main villain of the franchise guys

the neighbor’s wife bruhhhh

yes

that’s why

everyone is just

[crystal scroll]

The Thing isn't really a person, more of an entity.

[torpid sinew]

I mean

We basically have her model

All we’re missing is her head

[tribal talon]

Yup

[crystal scroll]

And we see 3 of "The Thing" just before the final boss. The big one outside with the grave represents Mya, the one at the bottom of the basement staircase represents Aaron and the one that lights up Theodore when the truck drives by represents Diane.

[wicked heath]

i dont think dat truck necessarly represents Diane

I mean how many trucks are there

[misty kindle]

what

[torpid sinew]

Diane isn’t evil

[misty kindle]

I didnt know

but what if she is

[wicked heath]

what is evil about her

[wicked heath]

she is not

[torpid sinew]

There are 4 books with her in it

[loud tartan]

She Cooking Bread, she very evil 😏

[torpid sinew]

She acts good ther

[misty kindle]

being a weird shadow

[fiery otter]

She isn't the shadow

[wicked heath]

Shes not the shadow u moro

[torpid sinew]

She’s not the Thing

[fiery otter]

Have you read the books?

[wicked heath]

The Thing is a representation of fear

[misty kindle]

are there books?

[fiery otter]

Yes

[torpid sinew]

Yes

9

[fiery otter]

There are 7 books and 2 graphic novels

[wicked heath]

u dont even need the books to know shes a nice person

[fiery otter]

So 9 books in total

[wicked heath]

where did ur idea of diane being the Thing even came from

[torpid sinew]

2 year olds

[wicked heath]

ah yes

right

[oblique drum]

yeah, i didnt read any of the books (but i bought the first 3 and theyre gonna arrive on tuesday) and i still know that neighbors wife is a nice person (and that obviously the shadow man isnt the neighbors wife lmfao)

[misty kindle]

what if the neighbor's wife is the bird man

[oblique drum]

oh

my

god

[wicked heath]

O my fu

She died u idiot

[fiery otter]

The bird looks nothing like Dianne. The bird looks like Theodore, AKA the Neighbor

[wicked heath]

Lets put the facts: Diane is a minor character who died in a car crash before the events of HN. THE END

[oblique drum]

neighbors wife died

goose is alive

[loud tartan]

||Neighball is the Guest y'alls ||

[oblique drum]

so they cant be the same person dude..

[misty kindle]

sorry I didn't know

[oblique drum]

omg diud uy just spoiled tehe tnire story og hn>???

[wicked heath]

U didnt know the wife died??

[oblique drum]

w athats frong wiht u????🤨

[wicked heath]

why are u making theories in the first place if dont even know the basics?

[tribal talon]

agreed

[misty kindle]

because I like the game

[wicked heath]

If u like the game so much, how come u dont know the basics

Hey did you know the Neighbor was your neighbor across the street?

[fiery otter]

But you should get a better understanding of the franchise's lore before posting theories

[ancient apex]

basically this guy’s evidence is: because yes

[misty kindle]

yes

[wicked heath]

Okay dats a start

[tribal talon]

"the basics"

[oblique drum]

the

[tribal talon]

b

[misty kindle]

is the player from the first game the neighbor's son?

[oblique drum]

as

ics

[fiery otter]

@misty kindle This is why the bird man is not Dianne.

[ancient apex]

WHY

[tribal talon]

"

[wicked heath]

dude u spoiled him

[loud tartan]

My Neighbor Across the street is actually kidnapping people in his basement, how did you knew that

[tribal talon]

hi zeiss

[wicked heath]

u spoiled the guy

[ancient apex]

💀

[misty kindle]

he's the neighbor

[oblique drum]

hn1 beta💀

[tribal talon]

very rude

[wicked heath]

im literally about to murder you rn

[tribal talon]

no

[oblique drum]

WOW😱

[misty kindle]

but the bird is thin and the neighbor is strong

[wicked heath]

and dats why he is not the neighbor

[tribal talon]

stop watching matpat bro. its not good for your brain

[loud tartan]

Oh yes and, The player is actually Dianne