#lore-discussion
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no
i meant this
that is ARG
u dont know hn well enough if u dont know what those are 🗿
ARG is not canon
br
its just a piece of paper with some gibberish written on it?
Ok so the arg is not canon at all?
no
What does 1003063 mean, if you know?
K
LMAoOooOo
thats not gibberish
"lore master" doesnt even know the arg fully
ARG is not canon 
well, I cant really read that
What is canon are the books canon to the game is the tv show canon to the game or are thay all different canons?
everything is canon
this is what creator said
But the games books and tv show contradict each other?
that is so easy to read what do you mean
logic 100
you say immediately after saying "arg is not canon" 
things subject to change in full thing
the only book you got?
No it's not but is this canon or is it just a gude book?
if its a guidebook, does that mean its not canon?
you should really buy that one
it ties with HN2
I have all...
i need reset day and GN2
the only books which tie into HN2...
You know the detective in hn2 I have a theory that doesn't have much evidence yet that he is enzo and also made the guide book in universe
he is not Enzo
Who is he,
Enzo is a literal kid in HN2
whereas MITH is an adult
how can MITH be Enzo
Could hn2 take place way after the books and act 2 of hello neighbor?
Like 20 or so years?
there is 0% chance of it
have you seen the beta trailer and the 5 min gameplay?
Ya but I don't see what you mean?
have you seen this
this is from the 5 min gameplay of the beta
Nicky is missing in HN2
how can it be 20 years after act 2?
Ya but what if Nicky was never found?
also why should the cops arrive at the house 20 years later Nicky's escape
its clear that HN2 either during the events of act 2, or right after act 2
New evidence from the main character of hn2
what
how does that imply that HN2 is 20 years after act 2?
What if he was never found after act 2, and hn2 takes place between act 2 and act 3 because the house was burned down
HN2 obv begins either during or right after act 2
thats for sure
it doesnt begin like, 20 years after act 2
and, act 3 is 19 years after act 2
if HN2 is indeed 20 years after act 2, the house shouldnt be there at all
But there's alot of time between act 2 and 3 so that's plenty of time for hn2 to take place
the creator confirmed that act 3 is 19 years after act 2
also, how does this imply that Nicky was never found?
It doesn't but that's a really wiard question to ask in the second last paragraph of the guide book
the guidebook itself is weird
I could be wrong, I probably am wrong but, It doesn't hurt to consider the possibility
Because it could explain alot
it doesnt explain
anything
how does HN2 being set decades after act 2, explain a lot?
besides, in the last QNA, Grandeturisto said that most of HN2 takes place when Nicky is child
so
Hmmmm ok I'm definitely wrong than
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humongous raven
ye, hes DEFINETELY not in the trailer
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definitely NOT trying to catch you
@silent wharf
and you are DEF NOT trying to take pics of the guest AT ALL
Oh he is lol🤦♂️
the guest is not invited
hes definitely not in this new teaser
😂🤦♂️
Ok so do you think the gust is the forest protector from the book the weird cult thing, or is someone else?
no, guest is not a forest protector
the other books confirm this
Because the forest protectors costumes where professional designed but the gust is just a mishmash of cloth
thats why Im telling you to buy the 7th book and the graphic novels
book 7, and graphic novel 2, which tie into HN2, provide a lot more insights on what the guest is, and whats happening in the town
Lol
guest is known by the townsfolk as "Raven Man"
Creative name
Yes makes sense but it doesn't have that scary foke lore sort of vibe
if you read the books, you'd get the lore
how did the urban legend of the raven man develop tho
When does reset day take place?
2022
GN1 - 1984
book 4 - 1991
book 5 - 1992
book 6 - 1992
book 1 - 1995
HNHS - 1995
book 2 - 1995
book 3 - 1996
HN1 Act 1 - 1996
SN - 1996
HN1 Act 2 - 1996
HN1 Act 3 - 2017
HN1 Act Finale - 2017
book 7 - 2021 and 2022
the only HN media which we dont have an exact date are HE, HN2 and GN2
chronological order^^^
@silent wharf
Because his house is burned down in act 3
for some reason his house is still there
How is he the guest
Idk
the second graphic novel just makes things more complicated
first, guest drowns the neighbor
but then neighbor comes out of the water, as the the guest
and in reset day, hes completely the guest
Whattttttttt?????? I'm so confused??????
What's the bet hn2 makes the lore more complicated
Why is it called reset day?
the whole town of Raven Brooks is stuck in a time loop
days keep getting reset
Raven Brooks is stuck in November of 2021, whereas real world is in summer of 2022
So is more than just the luck magic and weather manipulation?
Does the book say what courses the time loop?
I will
book 7 focuses more on the whats going on in the town, and GN2 focuses more on the guest
they both are said to be directly tieing into HN2
Ok I need to get the books before hn2 comes out
get em quickly
gn1 isn’t worth it
both the graphic novels were hard for me to read because I hadn’t ever read a graphic novel before
I too have never read any graphic novels before
but I found it easy reading the HN graphic novels
I like regular books way more
the big problem with graphic novels is that they don’t include much info
I’ve probably read the first 3 books 4 times
Me too
I've read all six way to much
like, an inhuman amount
there isnt 6
there are 10
7 books, 2 graphic novels, 1 guidebook
I wasn't talking. about the graphic novels or reset day
you said you've read all six
but totally there are 7 books
and i have read the guidebook
written by Carly
made a mistake
you should def read the 7th book
it has like, the most amount of lore than any other book
i did, but i just couldn't get into it
i liked the others a bit more
I liked book 7 as it has some actual horror elements
1% lore.
A
89% random shit, 10% fart jokes, 1% lore.
1% lore
But also belongs in 89% random shit at the same time
Like yeah, it is lore
But it is random and completely out of nowhere for these books and games
by this logic its 101%
Dumbass.
oh i thought this was something else nvm
Meme potential
Budasms
@fiery otter yes?
How would the inclusion of the Guest outfit in the Scary Neighbor's arsenal break the lore?
why would the kids imagine Mr.Peterson as the guest?
We've been predicting that HN 2 takes place around 1997-1998, which is around the time that SN takes place
yes
but why would the kids imagine the regular neighbor to be the guest
they shouldnt really relate the guest with Mr.Peterson
Well, if they're looking for Nicky and investigating Peterson around 97 or 98 (like we see them do in the AS pilot), there's a good chance they've run into the Guest
And before you say that the pilot isn't canon
guest wasnt even in the pilot
Cartoon pilots are supposed to be previews of what's to come in a show
y'know, if they've seen the guest, they really wouldnt associate it with Mr.Peterson
for the same reason why the ppl who havent read the books keep saying "gUeSt Is NoT nEiGhBoR"
Why wouldn't they? The Guest has the same physical build as Peterson, and the Guest is showing up around the time Peterson went missing
you sure he had the same physical build as Mr.Peterson?
guest's limbs are like noodles, when neighbor's limbs are buff
Not saying that
you sure?
also, when we first see the silhouette of the guest underwater, before it attacked Pris, its limbs are noodles
You can chalk that up to them only having that model to work with when it came to the new HN style in the HG prototype days, and then they chose to keep the model and not change it
^^^^^^
Again, it can be chalked up to the Guest's noodle arm model being the only point of reference for the artists to draw 'em
so, you saying that canonically, the guest is buff?
Plus, the arms are the only inconsistency between the builds of the Guest and the Neighbor. Everything else checks out
He literally busted down a giant wooden barn door in the HN 2 beta trailer
Well, the Neighbor took that urban legend and brought it to life
The turtle neck kinda provides extra room for the head
have you seen his coffee drinking/eating beans animation?
he just pours hot coffee into his beak
oh god I'm just imagining if it is a mask him just burning his whole face
He would also be damaging the Golden Apple in his beak
Why do people scroll that far just to find a message to react to
Tiny crow is bored
^^^^^
whats as
animated series
Ratio
Stop sending these links in the channels when they are completely unrelated with hello neighbor
I feel like the teddy bear in all the Peterson screenshots for HN 2 has lore relevance that we don't know about
My theory is that it’s mya’s teddy bear, he puts it on the couch because it reminds him of her, and the teddy bear being on the dirt thing might be a clue that, that is in fact mya’s grave
It reminds me of that creepy teddy bear from the HN 1 alphas
Also, why would Mya need a teddy bear if she has her raggedy Ann doll?
Also, who knows
this bear might be the same as the canon Clown neighbor sequence in book 6
maybe it was Theodores when he was a kid and he gave it to her
why would he of all ppl have a doll
Because kids like dolls?
His parents are too busy doing meteorologist crap to buy him a teddy bear
What if they bought him a teddy bear so he could play with it while they do the meteorology stuff 
I have a feeling that the girl in Hello guest is the parent of the little girl from hello neighbor (Hide and seek), just a feeling I have , probably not true.
Neighball emoji vanished, only neighbauble remains
Bruh moment
wdym, is that bad or good lol
They are separate characters
Oh, Good to know
(The mom is dead)
I was just thinking of it
Bruh
your right, I wasnt thinking of that-
Im gonna have to bleach my eyes for reading that
Im sorry
I mean I know about alot of the lore but I didnt think of the fact her mom is dead, Im still sorry
Yeah there are a lot of flaws in the theory
true
Lavvyro you make quazy davie SICK even suggesting that dumb theiory
Thanks.
Oof the theory wasn’t good but bruh
im sorry that i was out of line but i stay up until 4:00 in the morning reading the wikipedia and the books
I heard the wiki is not the best place to learn the lore
but i will ask you a hello neighbor lore question
do not use your PHONE or sorce of internet
What
who is mayor travish
The mayor?
NO internet
What even was the right answer
the right answer was he was a forest protector along with norman darbey and dale tapps
btw this was a thought, not a theory,
I wasnt even thinking about the mom before saying that, so I apologize
the forest protectors where all arested
you Z3!SS have the same suspition as quazy davie
Dude you have to be specific than, like say, “is he part of the forest protectors?” Or something
the mayors secret could be he was a forest protector

This image is canon
Here image of Beaned Cans
I love
the little girl in hide and seek is the neighbor's daughter, and the woman from hello guest is a random security gaurd
former mayor
ooo
ye, neighbor's wife died
I know, I didnt think about it before texting that
Anyone gonna talk that the fact that HN2 lore is complicated
no
Because SPOILER WARNING the guest is not the neihbour and the neihbor is the guest
SO
What is there to make sense
we already talked about it 1000x
thats actually his twin brother nick from l4d2 😎
he is the neighbor
yeah
But I was talking about the guest
Because the neighbor is the guest
So
How is the neighbor
Being the neibour'
And there is a guest roaming around
Thats not the neighour
again thats his twin brother nick from l4d2 😎
explain this
Lmao he dead lol
are you sure about that?
dont worry he has plot armor
Theory Aaron becomes his father's prodigy or some shit idk
no.
Looks like a corpse wtf
yes
Idk
Maybe she went t another universe
Its a strehc
Unless someone put it there
0-0
it is sentient and self awar
wtf
i thought are the same person
but thinking about the sounds that crows does
But its human-
they are
look
no
NO
Look closer at his neck
You can see little bolts sticking out
the neighbor's son is a kid at the time of HN2
how the heck can he be the guest?
This is getting confusing
it isnt confusing at all
HN2 is set during/after the time of HN1 Act 2
Nicky, Aaron, and Mya are missing
what
Yep now more simple
I suppose, you watched the beta reveal trailer and 5 min gameplay, right
which is a museum, across the street from Quentin's office
think what?
Looks more detailed considering the books came after the game
It looks like its over in the SN timeline
But the wallpaper is different
Whats relevant here
newer version^^^
Oh rgiht
what wallpaper?
what
Compare
the above one is finished
Its an alpha though
below one is incomplete alpha
this isnt alpha
so what?
why do you care about the wallpaper so much?
this isnt even the same place as the first picture
Mhm
Why
Its not that relavent
I mean
Sure
I care
But its not relavent here
Im gonna go clear my brain
Its been mush for hours
the crow man is the mr.petersin right?

yes and no 
he is and he isn’t, it’s complicated and my brain hurts because of it
Both
yes
In HN Books they are the same, in HN2 they are not
I was scratching my heaf for a while
The neighbor looks edited in

The Neighbor kidnapped kids
I know
The neighbor kidnap a kid and manipulates the police to throw ur ass in jail
Nicky thought, that Ted killed Mya, and kidnapped Aaron, so you're trying to save Aaron
Aron killed his sister and the neighbor loked him in his basement right?
thats stupid
how does that work
get a life and stop scamming
average 9 year olds be like
Hi
Breaking the law to save someone
You know sometimes I wonder how the story would've went if Aaron hadn't pushed Mya off on accident
I mean Theodore was already disturbed from his wife's death, but he seemed much more absent in a way. Feels like he broke into a manic state after Mya's death
There probably wouldn't be much of a game to play because Nicky wouldn't break in to save Aaron (haven't read books though so idk if there's different factors), but the story interests me more really
he already kinda was a maniac even before Diane and Mya's deaths
(read the books if you are so interested in the story)
They don't sell them here in German, I think
If I had money, I'd order but it's usually more expensive
order them in Amazon
not really expensive here

But someday hopefully, yes
Yep, I have them too, and I am in Czech
you can very well check out the prices atleast
And thats even worse
whats worse?
Buying something in czech
Yeah
same here
Well, I'll keep searching definitely.
At l
Least
I wanted them in German language if there's a translation because I'm learning german
I think there is
Oh, that's very cool to know then
But should read them - they're really good
I trust that. I would like to
Btw do you think maybe he's a sociopath by chance?
no
No
Ah okay
i think he is a sociopath but not in aslume yet because the police have not caught him (or he will go to jali idk)
look at his face here
hes not sociopath
he locked his son in order to protect him from dying
oh
well, I do agree that hes completely insane tho
👍
he kidnapped his son's friend so that his son can have some company in his prison
ok
Very much so
he also legit flooded the entire town cuz he wanted ppl to experience his loss
i know


no?
when did he even drink soda in book 6
joke
:/
Aaron mentionned that his dad was writing as if he drank 20 cans of soda
But it was mostly a joke
srsly, where?
tell page no.
when they find out he is rebuilding a device
mhmm
i think
lemme check
This man has some really bad psychotic breakdowns wth
he kidnaps ppl at random
Someone get this man a psychiatrist and prison, the hell
he's norman darby or somethin idk lol
lol
doubt it
Norman Darby was the height of Aaron
and Quentin isnt
Quentin is pretty short tho
I highly doubt hes the same height of Aaron
you sure?
if the neighbor is the guest, and Quintin being almost the same height as the guest, doesn’t that make him not as short?
proof that renders arent canon?
?
did you seriously say that the renders are canon
whats next?
gabs fangames are canon?
ok, renders arent canon
but, the guy is saying that Quentin is the same height as Aaron
which is false
well obviously
no way quentin is 5 feet tall
but hes totally not 6ft3 or 6ft4 either
how much height Aaron is?
how much even height Aaron, Im sure Quentin isnt the same height as Aaron
idk check the guidebook
5 feet 1 inch
neighbor is actually 6 feet 4 inches
ik
but quentin isn't 1 inch smaller then peterson
so probably smaller then 6ft3
6ft2
Quentin looks like 5ft9-6ft
exactly
the only reason he looks big in the game is because the guest hunches a lot
also the guest is like
bigger then the neighbor
Nft is the most tall than all characters
true
and Aaron is 5 feet 1 inch, so Quentin def isnt the height of Aaron
therefore, Quentin is not Norman Darby
also nicky is like an actual giant
i never said he was the height of aaron
i said he was kinda small
hi
any one here
bruh moment
...
hilarious.
he said Quintin is short, not that he is the same height of Aaron 
shoulda specified that
he said Quintin is short, what more is there to specify
whos Quintin btw
guest_turnsV20001-0130 https://www.helloneighbor2.com/diary?wix-vod-video-id=7f32b86f2cc249c1b016796fcef6d891&wix-vod-comp-id=comp-keefe7oo
It's the only video we have of the Guest fully standing up
I know only Quentin
I have a question for god- I mean for those who know the lore.
Who's house in the background?
Theodore Peterson's house (Neighbor House)
bruh moment
So, where's the grave that he's digging?
That's the main question
its supposed to be in his backyard
Look kinda strange
also, hes technically, not digging the grave
Looks like he's on Niki's side
Yh, just to say
I'm bad in English
hes filling the grave
What's with Nicky exuding this vibe everytime
tbh Neighbour has the same expression in basically every book cover too
yall really need to give Neighbor For Trailer another name
someones gonna think tinybuilds doing NFTs and yall will never hear the end of it
Stick Neighbour
oh wait that's SN
oh my good that is true, lets start a new religion
nickyguesters
i agree
that is true so much it is👍
...
Lore
Neighobo

Hi
Also Nicky is guest on the book walking nightmare the guest walks like that like how nicks crouched down
Doesn't mean nicky is guest
Reset day... HN lore is getting as bad as FNAF lore...
I agree makes lore weird
si
not that bad
Fnaf has robot children, time travelling ball pits and fazgoo, we got bird men and time loops
Trash Kaiju Afton
g u m d r o p a n g e l
"time travel"
im not gonna explain here (obviously) but its not time travel btw
kid goes into ball pit and ends up in 1985 (not time travel)

trueeee
No
Quentin gaming real?!?!
well, in some places hes called "neighbor_old"
Bird people? Time loops? This is starting to sound like that film miss peregrines home for peculiar children
I can explain
Ah yes explain in hn's lore discussion channel
like
how the hell does a machine
make your luck increase
AND can restart everyones minds
bruh

Quentin Gaymeing
- Guest to big to be crow 2. In the 2 newest HN books Guest is Ted
Ok
its not the same device
luck device is different and gem is different
and we dont know wether it is the gem which causes time loops
I feel like he was going through some memory instead of time travel
yet still interacts with the kids
u said bye yet u never said hi
No no, leave him be.
that has to be fake or im not reading fnaf books anymore
it isn’t 😔
fnaf is just getting more complicated with its lore for no reason
So is hello neighbor
yeah but at least it isn’t turning to immortal murderer who always comes back in the same series that has animatronics and goo monsters
i always come back
💀
Yeah but still complicated
true
It’s real.
William afton In fnaf 29
There’s also Sea Bonnies.
bruh
there's also #gam-
True!
Yeah very true!
And this is why I don't read fnaf books
Faz goo
And this is why I don't like fnaf
Na I've been in this server since 2017 I deserve a mod
logic is none existent in this message
Bro can't spell
What
this isn’t a fnaf server though
You don’t
nope
bruh just bc you been in this sever for a couple years doesn't mean you deserve mod
so the man only talked twice for 5 years
imagine that your first message is asking for being moderator
yes
Average 10 year old
you gotta be trained and picked by tinyBuild themselves to be moderator
I think
but yes, back to lore
and this server was created in 2018
and
he was in this server before it existed
is it that hard to understand?
he was in the server before his accoutn was created
Wb4zy lore
caught in the highest quality that no man can achieve


#w4bzy-lore-discussion
he made a time machine to join this server before creating a discord account
is your profile pic Mr. Clean...?
Yes it is why?
why
why not
overused
Guest?
#hello-neighbor message
Ironic ^
smh
No, not Guest
nope thats the guest (canon)...
ok how many ppl actually believe that cus that guy is the second one in this server who overthought that drawing
Its a drawing of a bird with clothes on
lol
Guest Drawing
cool
That is a canon drawing of the Guest
Ye
epic cheese egg
They live in a place called Raven Brooks, pretty sure there are lots of birds around for the kids to take inspiration from... plus a bird smoking a pipe lmao
or did mr peterson dress up as a bird for halloween once if he took his kids trick or treating
but that's just a theory
a gaaaame theory
He gives me shitty father vibes so I don't know
lol
He would look like a forest protector
And he hates them
but he might have done it for his kids
when they were tiny
bec he had his family and he was a hapi man
He would be a clown, not the guest
Also act 1 isnt that far from when peterson first moved into Raven brooks
Yes for my kids i would disguise as a cult of murderers who tried to kill my daughter once and are trying to make my family live in hell
Mr Peterson is a horrible father 
?
do you only play the games
i can tell u havent read the books
Ye i haven't
Lol
Started playing hello neighbor and watching the franchise 4 yrs ago
So I'm kinda new
i mean yeah
I mean. Just because he's broken doesn't make him less of a bad father. He trapped Aaron in the basement after he kid accidentally killed his sister and now has to sit in there alone
When Mr. Peterson could've been more responsible and maybe take Aaron to get some help, he's still a developing kid and not lock him in a basement. That already borders to child abuse in my opinion
Or actually give him to another relative who can take care of him
That's just how I see it really. His intentions might have been good, but his actions far from it
Yeah, it’s also likely that he even beat Aaron as a punishment.
The guest has a tounge????
Dude as if giant peterson wasnt enough to make twitter crazy
Tbh I would believe that. Aaron was literally screaming whilst his dad threw him to the basement so bro
Well...
Ted is just trying to protect him
He even built him an amusement park, inside the basement
And he kidnapped Nicky, cuz Aaron was alone
You certainly haven't read books
ayo??????
I mean.. even if I haven't read them, I've read up on what happened. He's still not fit to take care of a child, putting your kid in the basement and then kidnapping another kid to stuff there ain't it
well, neighbor lured Nicky into the basement so that Aaron can have a companion
he didnt just leave him to "sit alone without anyone"
That still counts as kidnapping and is pretty messed up
well, after he locked Aaron in the basement, he lied to the town that his kids were living with his sister Lisa in Minnesota
ye
no, he would never
Funny moment
read the books pal
I did
read the books
every book?
did you read all 7 books, both of the graphic novels, and the guidebook?
Yes
Feel bad for Aaron, he thinks he deserves to rot away in a basement, when he doesn't
he kinda does
That's not a life for a child lmao
To believe he deserved it
He didn’t do it on purpose tho
Neighbor didn’t care and still abused him mentally and verbally even before that
But it also was an accident? Bro he's a kid, little kids when they're angry they don't pay attention to their surroundings. Sure it's his fault she was pushed off, but he didn't do it on purpose
Mya literally ran from him when he got angry
She ran from her own dad
Abusive? Totally not
Nooo
Okay, correction
I mean, are you going to mess up a young child mentally by letting them believe they're a murderer and lock them away from society for who knows how long?
Certainly
he did something else, on purpose
Oh yeah that’s the right thing to do especially if you also accidentally hurt people on your rides as well 
well, kinda
theres a reason why the Peterson family is so unlucky
He’s still abusive to Aaron anyway :/
and Aaron ruined the chance of changing his family's fortune
Petersons still not eligible to be a father
thats why Ted considers Aaron to be a "bad omen"
Bruh he literally hates his son
he doesnt
He does
Maybe he does love him, human emotions and relationships are fairly complex and grey. But still his actions are awful and Aaron has to live with that now
Neighbor is not innocent, he knows he’s hurting his son by calling him that but still doesn’t care
his son legit agrees that hes a bad omen in book 6
and book 6 was 5 years before HN1
He only believes it because his father keeps calling him that
He’s horrible to Aaron
he agrees that hes an omen even before his father starts calling him that
you say that you've read all 7 books, but it doesnt look like you have a good memory
That doesn’t justify neighbor’s abuse
yes
You need to reread the times where neighbor’s own family was scared of him
that was in the first trilogy

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