#lore-discussion

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brittle sonnet
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Why

silver vine
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mayak mean lighthouse

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in Russian

brittle sonnet
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So, I was right

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Okey

toxic mist
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eh I’ll let the story play out next year

brittle sonnet
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Thx, I won't interrupt you anymore

toxic mist
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it’s not complete yet

silver vine
brittle sonnet
toxic mist
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So apparently it’s the lighthouse event

fast marten
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sqooq!!!

onyx bridge
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Wait are the friends in question referring to the kids from secret neighbor?

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(yes im just reading lore i dont know off of a wiki)

full gull
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the guys from hide and seek

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make sense

full gull
opal jackal
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Yes

onyx bridge
opal jackal
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I gtg

full gull
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idk if this is mentioned on the wiki

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but was the sus thing in hello neighbor the neibors son geting kidnaped

torpid sinew
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Specifically Enzo/Detective, Maritza/Brave, and Trinity/Leader.

wicked heath
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Mya is dead, and aaron in the basement by the time

wicked heath
shrewd dove
fiery otter
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They would've seen Aaron anyway if they were in a group

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And it doesn't explain why they're all friends in the AS pilot

gray dome
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ok but

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AS pilot not canon

gleaming violet
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thats a good thing

onyx bridge
gray dome
gray dome
onyx bridge
tribal talon
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Pilot was basically a summary of the Aaron books :/

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It shouldn’t be canon at all, nobody acts like their book/game selves

gleaming violet
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also isn't it very inconsistent with both the games and the books

torpid sinew
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Enzo actually acts like his book self though.

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So.

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There’s that.

gleaming violet
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act 1 lasts for like 5 seconds in the as pilot

gray dome
gleaming violet
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nicky doesn't even go in the basement

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dead inside

torpid sinew
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He sounds dead inside.

gleaming crown
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Am I still seeing Maritza hate or is there something I am misunderstanding? One side I am hearing Maritza being the most efficient of the group and the other is mentally deficient.

gleaming violet
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mentally deficient

torpid sinew
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She acts just

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Weird

gleaming violet
wooden pine
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Maritza also abandons nicky i think

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In the books

gleaming violet
gleaming crown
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I don't see any of Nicky's friends abandoning him unless something they find out or believe causes them to not want anything to do with Nicky. Like a false rumor.

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I am still convinced that there is a monster that is using Pennywise methods to torment the kids.

torpid sinew
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Yeah Book 3 was just

wooden pine
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Bad

torpid sinew
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Yeah

tribal talon
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How does nobody remember what Enzo said in waking nightmare that made book 3 make sense 😕
He literally says, “We’re just trying to be normal.” To Nicky. Which explains why he betrayed Nicky in book 3. He didn’t want to be associated with the “weird kid”

versed yacht
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Also everyone seems to forget that Maritza was already stressed out over the loss of 2 of her close friends, and Nicky constantly bringing it up made it worse for her

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They know he's a weird guy, it's not that they don't believe Nicky, they just don't want to get involved

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That's how I saw it at least

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Honestly I'm surprised the amount of dedication he has for it

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Man created a whole binder of evidence with a full schedule of what Ted does everyday

torpid sinew
silver vine
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and, his friends abandoed him

gleaming violet
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bad friends momen

silver vine
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true

fiery otter
errant hazel
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true, poor Nicky

wicked heath
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Random theory came to my mind

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What if goose kidnapped me so i can fix his car?

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Since i fix cars for a living

errant hazel
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That still would not explain, why did goose kidnapped Marcia and Pipers mum

wicked heath
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Make piper and delia feel pain

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Or bc he thought piper mum had the gem with her like marcia

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To which she didnt

errant hazel
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Hmm

torpid sinew
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Ehhhh

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Maritza is the only one who has a somewhat reasonable explanation

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Enzo’s is just “Dude you’re not fun” and Trinity just

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Does it

wicked heath
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Trinity goes “We are just trying to be gud friends”

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Then stares at nicky while she get her certificate bc she wanted to be a d

torpid sinew
silver vine
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Marcia died

silver vine
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he says that he wants to be a normal kid

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not being associated with a weirdo like Nicky

gleaming violet
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nicky takes drugs

torpid sinew
gleaming violet
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the whole franchise is in nickys drug induced dreams

silver vine
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n

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o

silver vine
gleaming violet
silver vine
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what does believers of Jay Roth even do

gleaming violet
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worship jay roth

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also its jay rothism

silver vine
gleaming violet
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listen

silver vine
gleaming violet
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Jay Roth is our lord and savior

silver vine
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um

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no

gleaming violet
slim ledge
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Who is Jay Roth fr

silver vine
slim ledge
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Oh, he has a dad

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I forgot people had dads

shy kestrel
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Bruh?

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I’m kinda concerned

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Like, Ted was considered a father once people found the family photo, but somehow you forgot people have dads.

slim ledge
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I know, but he's like the main father you know

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If that makes sense

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I've never heard of Nicky's parents before

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I just knew he had a grandma or something

shy kestrel
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They were always there, it’s just they weren’t brought into the series until the books

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If you think about it

silver vine
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true

silver vine
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they too, like the neighbor, were the town wingnuts

slim ledge
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Lol, he must've had some childhood

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I haven't read the books yet honestly, idk if they're available in my country

gleaming violet
slim ledge
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Btw is it just me or is the bird thing from hn2 inspired by the Schnabelperchten?

gleaming violet
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the who what now when

slim ledge
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It's an austrian folklore

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Looks like this

slim citrus
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The guest is skinny

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He is unskinny

slim ledge
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Yeah but bird

gleaming violet
slim citrus
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And his beak is real

gleaming violet
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that looks a lot like the guest tho

slim ledge
slim citrus
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Kraa meetup

gleaming violet
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holy shit

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are those scissors?

slim citrus
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The bigger the better

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Wink face

slim ledge
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Basically they come to your house to check if it's clean. If it's not, they cut open your stomach and fill it with the dirt of your home

gleaming violet
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oh my

slim ledge
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Otherwise, they bring luck to you all year round

slim citrus
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What if my home isn’t dirty

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But it’s not clean aswell

slim ledge
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Hmm good question

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Not sure what classifies as clean enough

torpid sinew
silver vine
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in QNA video

gleaming violet
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cant wait for kra to cut open my stomach

silver vine
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well, he wont do that

gleaming violet
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why

silver vine
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guest only steals stuff which ppl dont deserve

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no cutting open stomachs

gleaming violet
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i wish he did that

silver vine
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well, we dont know what he does to the kids he kidnaps

gleaming violet
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he throws them in the fire

silver vine
gleaming violet
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i remember when i thought thats what he did in the alpha 1.5 trailer

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turns out it was a toy bunny

silver vine
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I thought it was a heart beating

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Idk why

hazy grotto
slim ledge
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Legit

hazy grotto
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See the guest with them chasing Quincy down the streets of Raven Brooks

torpid sinew
fiery otter
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Oh noes

hazy grotto
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It's the nickname I used for Quentin 😭😭

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It sometimes just slips

loud tartan
silver vine
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you mean that journalist guy?

hazy grotto
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Yeh

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Again Quincy is a dumb nickname like the nickname I gave Maritza (Marcy)

silver vine
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Marcy

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lel

loud tartan
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better Mercy

silver vine
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Marcy reminds me of the local grocery store owner Marcia

hazy grotto
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Yeah true

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I wish Marcia Tillman was a character I never met.

errant hazel
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Uhm, Quentin works in Channel 4, or Raven Brooks banner? Im not sure rn

silver vine
loud tartan
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Sadly it's not more Wayron Croobs Rimmor

silver vine
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true

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I still dont understand why they changed mirror to banner

toxic mist
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we might see that in dream/distorted memory sequences

silver vine
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I doubt HN2 will have those

toxic mist
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well the guest world exists

loud tartan
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Quentin's Distorted memories 😐

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very bad

toxic mist
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so anything could happen

silver vine
toxic mist
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the guest world is like the upside down from stranger things

silver vine
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Nicky had distorted memory/dream sequences cuz he was affected by PTSD

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pretty sure Quentin isnt affected by PTSD

toxic mist
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he’s affected by the time loops tho

silver vine
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who?

toxic mist
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everyone is except the people in the tavish family

toxic mist
silver vine
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no

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he isnt affected by time loops

silver vine
toxic mist
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that have used the gem at least once

tame mural
silver vine
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the problem is

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banner isnt a TV channel

tame mural
silver vine
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there is also a separate channel 4 in the books

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which is banner's rival

tame mural
silver vine
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so, banner started their own channel 4?

tame mural
proud locust
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I have a question, the last graphic novel is canon?

proud locust
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yeah

silver vine
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why would it not be canon?

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the desc even says that it ties with HN2

proud locust
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thx it never occurred to me to translate the description he

toxic mist
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it starts right before the 2nd game

silver vine
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you sure?

toxic mist
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yes

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there was a flood

silver vine
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wheres all the water then

toxic mist
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gone

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reduced to atoms

silver vine
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more than half of the town was completely submerged in water

young kayak
toxic mist
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there is probably still mud

young kayak
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we still can see

silver vine
toxic mist
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there is mud in the alphas and hello guest, would make no sense if they scrapped that

silver vine
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a whole car was submerged in water

toxic mist
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haha yes big w a t e r

silver vine
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all those water couldnt have dissappeared within, what

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days?

toxic mist
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it seeped into the ground

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there is also tunnels below raven brooks

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that’s probably flooded

silver vine
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tunnels all collapsed

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years before flood

toxic mist
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why do you say that

silver vine
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fax

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gotta say the fax

toxic mist
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you mean at the end of puzzle master

silver vine
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ye

toxic mist
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they just “collapse”

silver vine
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they get filled by mud and rubbke

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the tunnels are gone man

toxic mist
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well that was one area

toxic mist
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the tunnels stretch for miles

silver vine
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ok

toxic mist
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also don’t forget raven brooks is shaped like a pentagon

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that is relevant somehow believe me

silver vine
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there are smart phones in GN2

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where are they in HN2?

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there are only button phones in HN2

toxic mist
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the game hasn’t come out yet

silver vine
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Pris had a modern day computer in her room

loud tartan
toxic mist
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and you do know that Gordon cleave is kinda destabilizing the world right

silver vine
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thats right

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90s computer

toxic mist
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one word

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t i m e. l o o p s

silver vine
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exactly

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time to bring in my theory

toxic mist
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if gordon isn’t the man in the hat I will cry about it

torpid sinew
toxic mist
silver vine
torpid sinew
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No

toxic mist
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I don’t think raven brooks was enclosed in a pentagon in gn2

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that only happened in reset day

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because time was destabilizing cuz the gem was broken

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oh and also don’t even get me started on how Norman Darby can see the future

silver vine
toxic mist
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probably

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I think reset day is a bit before act 3

silver vine
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Piper's mom stated that the wall was built to contain rain

silver vine
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it isnt

toxic mist
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wa

silver vine
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it takes place in 2021 and 2022

toxic mist
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which means act 3 is in 2030

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makes sense

silver vine
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no

toxic mist
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it would be cool to see Nicky as an adult in hn2

silver vine
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the workers state that its been 25 years since the park got covered by concrete

toxic mist
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so 25 minus 2021?

silver vine
toxic mist
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if when the earthquake happened at the beginning

silver vine
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atleast Raven Brooks is stuck in November 2021

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real world is in summer 2022

toxic mist
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so when does hn2 take place

silver vine
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when does it look like it takes place

toxic mist
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most likely the park will be abandoned but not demolished

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1996?

silver vine
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well, it looks like it takes place around the time Nicky goes missing

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well, lets not forget my theory, there are possibilites of HN2 taking place in 2022

toxic mist
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so around sn time

silver vine
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ye

toxic mist
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when all the kids band together to defeat thanos

silver vine
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we dont know if real world too is around that time or is in 2022

toxic mist
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reset day makes sense being in 2021

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stuck in November

silver vine
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ye

toxic mist
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but then when does gn2 take place

silver vine
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not sure

toxic mist
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before hn2 right

silver vine
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I doubt it takes place in the 90s

toxic mist
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because they have modern phones

silver vine
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and modern computers

toxic mist
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laptops

silver vine
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if my theory is correct, HN2 can take after both GN2 and book 7

toxic mist
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but there is no modern furniture tho

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back to basics, it’s a sequel after the 1st game

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but Nicky is kidnapped

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and is probably still a kid

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neighbor moved to museum to enjoy art or go in hiding cuz Nicky is in his basement

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which makes hn2 take place during sn time or even be a parallel story

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the “show” is also during sn time

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probably a bit before then

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I don’t see any world where hn2 is in modern day

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so the weather station is still standing

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and the flood happens later

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not mayak btw

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the meteostation is a different mythical building that transcends time and space

silver vine
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the AS takes place at different points in time

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its not linear

silver vine
toxic mist
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there isn’t

silver vine
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what

toxic mist
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mayak is mythical

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it’s what caused time loops

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it’s also in old town somewhere so there could be 2 weather stations

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and there is a train which we have never seen

ancient apex
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Where

wicked heath
ancient apex
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Oh ok

wicked heath
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It will cost u money though

ancient apex
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Ye I know

silver vine
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its a small town

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why would it have 2 weather stations

wicked heath
silver vine
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same

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its already confirmed that the weather station visited by Aaron in books 4 - 6 is mayak

wicked heath
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Im pretty sure likeable thought mayak was a media station or smth

silver vine
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so

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ultimately

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mayak is the only weather station

silver vine
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anyway

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why do the cops uniform change in every HN media?
in book 5, they're said to have brown uniform
in AS pilot, they have dark blue uniform
in HN2, they have light blue uniform with dark green coat

ancient apex
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Because they can

fiery otter
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The Neighbor being the Guest has now been thrown into question

shrewd dove
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Actually the screenshot confirms that they are

fiery otter
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Explain

quick dagger
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he's posing the costume in the screenshot can't you see neighborlol

shrewd dove
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The only way it could be a creature posessing him, is if this is before the guest does it, which explains why the neighbor is in his backyard and not the museum. BUT, this is incorrect because the guest is obviously a man with a wooden beak and sweater, and the police have already came as the light is a light from the police department. The neighbor needs to do something back at his house though.

fiery otter
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Well either way, I would like both of them to burn when Peterson's house inevitably burns down in HN 2

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Because they both commit horrendous crimes

shrewd dove
raw quartz
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watch the guest be one of the crows from the original game that got mutated and has a grudge against the neighbor because he left his refrigerator open causing the bird to be cold.

silver vine
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why are ppl always over looking it

gleaming violet
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technically its just 2022

shrewd dove
silver vine
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but, in truth, it takes place 5 years later

fiery otter
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I wish HN could just have a happy ending for once

wicked heath
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HN ending was happy

fiery otter
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It was the only happy ending

silver vine
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so

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HE ending isnt a happy one?

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anyway

fiery otter
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I mean, even if Mr. Peterson goes to jail or burns or something that has him more permanently defeated in HN 2, there's still the Guest

silver vine
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hes the star of the franchise

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maybe the guest can get permanently defeated

fiery otter
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I just hope that at some point in HN, we get a satisfying, happy ending

silver vine
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HN1 is prob the happiest atm

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HNHS is the sadest

fast marten
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defeated

silver vine
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I have a feeling that this is Mya's grave

shrewd dove
# silver vine it was you who said reset day takes place before act 3

How would it take place after act 3. 1. We did the math way before and it was 2016-2017 around then. 2. Nicky isn’t there, why would he go there, then right after just leave, we know he’s not there because Maritza would of likely mentioned him. 3. The neighbor’s house isn’t burned down, which means it burned down right after reset day, and right before act 3.

silver vine
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and we figured it out that it was 2021

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you just ahvent been keeping up with the server lately

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the workers said its been 25 years since the park got covered by concrete

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and, when was it covered by conrete?

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it was covered by concrete by earthpro in 1996

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so

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when you do math

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you'll figure out that the year in Raven Brooks is November 2021

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and its summer in the real world

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so, real world is in 2022

shrewd dove
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They clearly have no idea when the heck this takes place then cus the ages of the characters say it’s before then. Why wouldn’t they actually care to to do the math themselves, it’s stupid. From a lore standpoint that makes no sense, but okay.

silver vine
shrewd dove
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Maybe act 3 doesn’t take place in 2017 then

silver vine
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if Maritza didnt mention about Nicky, it doesnt mean he isnt there

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Maritza abandoned Nicky

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will she tell that to Piper?

shrewd dove
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I know, but Nicky came when the house was burned down, does it look burned down in reset day? Nope

silver vine
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you know

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the park also got destroyed

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is it destroyed in the game?

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nope

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timelines exist

shrewd dove
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Yet there it is in HN2, so many errors

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Makes no sense, they just ignore half thier past lore for no reason

silver vine
shrewd dove
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I didn’t use maritza, I used Enzo and his kid.

silver vine
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when did they mention Enzo's age?

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they did mention Jess and Jordy's age

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which is 13 and 17 respectively

shrewd dove
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Yea, they didn’t, they said he had a kid when he was 16, and if we find out Enzo’s age in the cartoon or whenever in that time, then we add the age of the kid, then we get the year.

silver vine
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they never mentioned Enzo had a kid when he was 16

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it was just the community which made it up

shrewd dove
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Whenever they said he had a kid I forgot

silver vine
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they never said the date when he had a kid

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I've read book 7 a 1000 times

silver vine
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they never mentioned the age of Enzo or Maritza

shrewd dove
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Well why would the community make it up, seems stupid

silver vine
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cuz they thought book 7 was before act 3

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just like how you think

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cuz the house isnt burned

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and, that time, the book JUST came out

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we didnt thoroughly analyse it yet

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I did a throrough analysis of it (as I do with every single HN book), and came to the conclusion that book 7 takes place in 2022

silver vine
shrewd dove
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Ok fine, but also what about the house getting burned down?

silver vine
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different timelines

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park got destroyed in the books

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while it isnt destroyed in the games

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same case for the house

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destroyed in the games, not destroyed in the books

shrewd dove
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The books are the original timeline, then the games are the new timeline. If that’s true then the guest went back to atleast before act 1 and changed stuff in the timeline leading up to HN2.

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The only canonical explanation. They can’t just be 2 random seperate timelines, doesn’t make sense.

silver vine
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also there are inconsistenceis in every book

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Aaron to be the first to ride the roller coaster in book 3, while he never rode in book 5

shrewd dove
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AS makes sense to be the new timeline, up until the begining of Act 1 (not counting house design, since that should never count)

silver vine
silver vine
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the layout legit changes in every book

shrewd dove
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Yea

silver vine
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no

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coat suit

shrewd dove
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I think they just can’t find consistency within the lore.

fiery otter
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I haven't read the books in a while

silver vine
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who

silver vine
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the authors?

shrewd dove
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We just have to peice together what we have and leave aside some of the other stuff.

silver vine
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I have already pieced everything

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nothing more to piece up

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anyway

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Im actually going to do a time line

shrewd dove
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I know but I mean stuff related to the guest. And you can’t just say the house getting burned down is just another timeline, it needs to fit in the lore somehow.

fiery otter
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HN is turning into FNAF when it comes to the lore

shrewd dove
shrewd dove
silver vine
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GN1 - 1984
book 4 - 1991
book 5 - 1992
book 6 - 1992
book 1 - 1995
HNHS - 1995
book 2 - 1995
book 3 - 1996
HN1 Act 1 - 1996
SN - 1996
HN1 Act 2 - 1996
HN1 Act 3 - 2017
HN1 Act Finale - 2017
book 7 - 2021 and 2022

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tbf, the only HN related thing which we dont know the date is HE, HN2, and GN2

shrewd dove
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Well HN2 is fall of 1996 likely

silver vine
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we dont have confirmation tho

shrewd dove
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I know, just using context

silver vine
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I'll wait for further confirmation

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theres gotta be a reason why they arent telling the dates of these 3 things

silver vine
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well, AS is gonna have multiple episodes

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which take place in multiple times

shrewd dove
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GN2 is after Act 2 atleast since there are cell phones.

gray dome
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Why did chat get purged 🗿

ancient apex
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The Power of comete

gray dome
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Mfw we're not even briefly allowed to talk about fnaf

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Nice reason

ripe berry
wicked heath
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YEs

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from yesterday

ripe berry
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Frick, I guess I missed some stuff

wicked heath
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Russia going on court: #russian-chat message

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(start scrolling down)

ripe berry
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Who the heck is the Guest in HN2 if not Mr.Peterson?

gray dome
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A creature

ripe berry
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Hey, time for people to rethink the entire HN lore because the Guest in HN2 is not Ted

ripe berry
ripe berry
ripe berry
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...

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So the Guest is some kind of other entity?

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Both someone but also not someone?

wicked heath
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Just some green goblin plot

fiery otter
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Jackzilla is gonna have to explain it all over again lol

ripe berry
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We're going more complex then the entire FNaF lore

wicked heath
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Faz-goo

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The main protagonist is a robot

fiery otter
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Stop mentioning FNAF here because Comete will purge it

wicked heath
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Giant springtrash

fiery otter
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Like they did earlier

ripe berry
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STOP

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This is HN

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I'm just comparing the complexity of the lore to FNaF's

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Is the Guest from another timeline?

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That might make sense if they comfirm that there are more than one timeline

ripe berry
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But also yes

gray dome
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not really

ripe berry
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Trying to solve HN lore right now is just as hopeless as MatPat trying to solve FNaF lore forever

pulsar falcon
gray dome
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hn's a lot more complex

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uh

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fnaf*

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not hn

ripe berry
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You didn't see the image on saturday

ripe berry
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Ted and the Guest are 2 different people

ripe berry
shrewd dove
ripe berry
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But they also are

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The Guest may be a alternate version of Ted

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Or someone else entirely

pulsar falcon
pulsar falcon
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vid on secret neighbor!

fiery otter
pulsar falcon
#

whoops wrong chat

young kayak
ripe berry
fiery otter
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GN 2 takes place right around the time of HN 2

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I think it does anyway

ripe berry
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It takes place atleast in 2016, but before 2021

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2016 comes from the cellphones with no home-screen button

pulsar falcon
ripe berry
fiery otter
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Jackzilla thinks the Guest is the Neighbor from the future/another timeline

ripe berry
#

But I don't think so

fiery otter
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I mean, I think that the Guest is some version of the Neighbor

fiery otter
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Their build is the same

pulsar falcon
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exactly

ripe berry
#

So um... what is the Guest right now?

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A clone?, A Alternate Ted?, A future Ted?, A entirely different person?, A demon?

fiery otter
#

I mean, he still looks like the Neighbor

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We have to wait until the beta comes out to get part of the answer

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Because we might be able to witness what's happening in the new screenshot

blissful ocean
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I think Alternate or future Ted

vernal kraken
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I think it's a creature that needs someone to possess in order to have more power and ability to do things

blissful ocean
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Could be

vernal kraken
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or someone he agreed to work with originally but then they have a disagreement

fiery otter
vernal kraken
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tbh the man in the hat looks more like the neighbours build than the guest but-

round geode
#

what if the guest is really a creature ?

fiery otter
#

MITH kinda looks like the Guest because of the really thin legs and arms, but then you have that scrapped Hello Guest ending

blissful ocean
#

Man in the hat

fiery otter
pulsar falcon
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notice the guest in the picture

fiery otter
ripe berry
#

Imma create and post a quick lore recap for HN

gleaming crown
#

I will bring up that TinyBuild brought the topic of cheetahs in the world of Hello Neighbor for a reason. I know this is only from the cartoon, but I won't let this detail get overlooked.

daring yacht
#

here we go

ancient apex
#

Stoooooopppppp

gray dome
ripe berry
torpid sinew
gray dome
#

Fortnite yucky

gray dome
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you pinged them twice in the span of 2 mins

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and was typing for abt 3 mins

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going on about the same thing

ripe berry
#

Ok

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Sorry

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Just making sure they knew

gray dome
#

I'm pretty sure they do

torpid sinew
young kayak
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yes lore

torpid sinew
#

Uhh

ancient apex
#

Cheetahs are apparently the best lore in the entire series neighborhuh

fiery otter
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Do not bring up cheetahs for another 2 months

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Because of reasons

ancient apex
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The guy will probably bring it up again sadly

wicked heath
#

hello. Today we lore

gray dome
#

Why did that get deleted

young kayak
#

back to lore

torpid sinew
young kayak
gray dome
#

🗿

ancient apex
#

Who ghost pinged me bruh

gray dome
#

Chillaxium probably

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Because Comete deleted one of his msgs

ancient apex
#

Bruh

gray dome
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(it was just a single fnaf meme)

ancient apex
#

comete if it was one fnaf meme no need to delete it immediately lol

gleaming crown
#

People are definitely overlooking the stuff animals and some of the interests the kids have. Hello Neighbor Hide and Seek featured different themed levels, and anything from that game must have relevance one way or another. I can only guess that Maritza and possibly others if they have a similar animal that they like could mean something in the first level.

wicked heath
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wh-what

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I didnt understood crap

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u mean animals like pet or symbolic animals

gleaming crown
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This is not a topic on furries but there could be animals that relate to each of the kids. Aron is the tiger and Maritza is the cheetah for example.

wicked heath
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Cus i think this is just a safari game that mya and aaron are playings

wicked heath
gleaming crown
#

The kids in Hello Neighbor each likely have stuff animals.

wicked heath
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Also, Maritza dont have anything related to a cheetah, aside from that one pilot where she yells Cheetah like 5 yo

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when she normally should have the mentality of someone 3 years older than her

gleaming crown
#

She is that way for a reason and I am going to put the pieces together to prove my point.

wicked heath
#

In the books she has a completely different personality

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and im gonna rely more on the books that has a better lore and has a full series than some prototype for an animated series

gleaming crown
#

I don't care how you want to define continuity when it doesn't matter.

wicked heath
#

suit yourself

ripe berry
gleaming crown
#

Sometimes popular series with good writing can leave behind clues in other media and to help promote future content if people theorize by even the tiniest of details and can make a connection. Just because there is different continuity shouldn't mean that it is beyond the realm of impossibility.

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Please stop arguing with me.

ripe berry
wicked heath
#

this is lore DISCUSSION

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its made to argue

gleaming crown
#

Sorry.

ripe berry
gleaming crown
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I just want to stay on this site with a positive.

wicked heath
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and EVEN IF there is a symbolic animal for each characters, what does it change

gleaming crown
#

I had people just slam my content and don't respect my differences.

ripe berry
wicked heath
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I mean, what do you expect from games with hidden lore and lots of discussions about it

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Take FNaF for example

ripe berry
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Like what does Aaron being represented with a tiger add to the lore?

gleaming crown
#

There can be lots of stuff in the Hello Neighbor cartoon that is completely new.

wicked heath
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Matpat theorizes the main character is a robot and ppl are pretty hateful toward him even tho he has logical arguments

ripe berry
wicked heath
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yes i think its ez to figure out

gray dome
#

no need to add the "to be specific" then lol

wicked heath
#

its just a theory based on books and other games

torpid sinew
#

Stop arguing

wicked heath
#

but enough abt fnaf

ripe berry
gleaming crown
#

We are suppose to be discussing Hello Neighbor.

wicked heath
#

(Thats a joke put the guns down!!)

ripe berry
#

who is Mih?

wicked heath
#

man in hat

ripe berry
#

Oh you mean MitH.

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Sorry typo confused me for a bit

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Or reabbrivation or whatever

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now now... What is the Guest?

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It is but also isn't Ted

gleaming crown
#

The cartoon could go the route of using ideas from Hide and Seek to some capacity and more of the kids could have something to do about an animal they like.

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Or a stuff animal.

ripe berry
gleaming crown
#

Fine.

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Cops and Robbers.

wicked heath
#

but uh... again:
Number one: This is definitely overthinking
Number two: What does it add to the lore

gleaming crown
#

Stuff animals involved with murder.

wicked heath
ripe berry
gleaming crown
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The fact that the kids do dress up and things can get out of hand.

torpid sinew
wicked heath
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Book 1 confirms it

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Diane said they rob banks

ripe berry
#

Wait then what about the firefighter thi-

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Oh wait

wicked heath
#

Aaron is fire so he burned house

ripe berry
#

It proves Aaron is the one who burned down Ted's house

wicked heath
#

Mya is zombie, so she will appear in HN2

dapper depot
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mya and Aaron commit arson

gleaming crown
#

Now you are on the right track.

ripe berry
#

Then what about Stage 4

wicked heath
gleaming crown
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I think part of it is a metaphor with going without a brain or they have to look somewhere else for one.

wicked heath
dapper depot
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mya and Aaron raid a graveyard

gleaming crown
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Mya died so it makes sense that she is a zombie.

ripe berry
#

Now explain what is Stage 5

gray dome
#

you posted fnaf!

gleaming crown
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The graveyard could mean the death of their family or their mother.

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I think Aron has a stuffed tiger.

torpid sinew
ripe berry
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It's like how people use the design of Ghost Neighbor from SN to say Ted tried to kill himself

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I mean, he probably did

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but still

torpid sinew
ripe berry
#

The GITER

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Giter is Wayron Croobian for Tiger, and is what Aaron's shirt in Stage 1 reads

gleaming crown
#

Here is one. When Mya counts, she uses the giant from Jack and the Beanstalk's catchphrase which predicts the Neighbor going giant.

ripe berry
#

That doesn't mean anything

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and Giant Neighbor is in Nicky's head

gleaming crown
#

Same universe.

ripe berry
#

Also Giant Neighbor was made before Mya

wicked heath
#

giant neighhbor is nickys fear of peterson

ripe berry
#

Giant Neighbor has existed since that one dream sequence in Pre-Alpha

gleaming crown
#

I do actually think there is a connection to Hello Neighbor and Jack and the Beanstalk.

ripe berry
#

Mya didn't exist until the full game, but wasn't a prominent character that isn't just a cardboard cutout until HNHS

dapper depot
#

mya is in act 3

gray dome
#

well more or less she was still just an unnamed character then

gleaming crown
#

Nicky is Jack and the Neighbor is The Giant. The Neighbor's house is his castle.

gray dome
#

it wasnt until book 1 when she was given character and it was revealed who it was

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or hs idk

ripe berry
gleaming crown
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Nicky is going into the Neighbor's house on a mission to retrieve something, or in this case rescue someone.

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Aron could be the Golden Egg Hen.

ripe berry
gray dome
#

I mean

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That is a plausible theory

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Not sure now

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But before it was

ripe berry
#

Pumpkin Kid has a flashlight, when a candle Nicky grabs while in the Basement goes out, Aaron rolls a flashlight to him.

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The Pumpkin and Alien Kids are "fakes" in the ending of 1.5, because they are either free(Nicky) or dead(Mya)

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Aaron is still trapped tho

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Don't know what the Ted being locked up in the end/ending cutscene would represent

gleaming crown
#

Those pre alphas do tend to not have a chance to not be in the official games and what is left in the alphas is left to debate.

ripe berry
gleaming crown
#

Please stop assuming Maritza acting out of character compared to the books and her playing cheetah won't mean anything longterm.

wicked heath
#

yes i will assume that

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cus again: Its a pilot

ripe berry
#

Pilots can be different dude

torpid sinew
daring yacht
#

"I'll bet you think you're real clever Gregory"

torpid sinew
#

har har har har har

gray dome
#

I can't tell if this is a FFPS reference or SB reference

silver vine
#

Im just counting the books here

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in the books, act 1 takes place in 1996

silver vine
#

cuz the trick or treaters have separate missing posters in the beta

ripe berry
#

I know

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But I was using their logic

pulsar falcon
silver vine
silver vine
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why did neighbor lock up Nicky inside a room in the basement, if he wanted Aaron to have his friend in his prison?

silver vine
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he wanted Nicky to be Aaron's companion in the basement tho

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then why would he lock him up in a room

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yes

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thats not him

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hes just shown as a cardboard cutout in HN1

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this is Aaron in HN1

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the kid in the shadow monster part is your younger self

torpid sinew
#

Here’s him normal design

silver vine
#

?

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thats not him

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thats you

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you have to save yourself

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your younger self

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thats you as a kid

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thats not the neighbor's son

silver vine
brittle sonnet
#

yh

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You can see him in Hide and Seek

silver vine
#

yes

brittle sonnet
silver vine
#

yes?

brittle sonnet
#

can you tell me the whole HN lore?

brittle trail
#

impossibruh

silver vine
# brittle sonnet can you tell me the whole HN lore?

heres a brief explanation:
Mr.Peterson, the neighbor, is a world renowned engineer who designs amusement parks, the most recent park he built was in his hometown, Raven Brooks, which was the golden apple amusement park, but a girl named Lucy died there and the park got closed, a few years later, a kid named Nicky Roth moves in across the street from Mr.Peterson's house, and befriends his son, Aaron. Nicky and Aaron become close friends, but sometime after, Aaron's mother, Diane, dies in a car accident, shortly after that, both Aaron and his sister Mya goes missing, Nicky notices that Mr.Peterson has locked up Aaron in his basement, and breaks in, to save him, but he gets trapped himself. Nicky's school friends, plan to save him from the basement, as seen in SN, but they never execute their plans. 2 months later, Nicky escapes with the help of Aaron, and develops PTSD. 19 years later, Nicky returns to Raven Brooks, and relives his adventures, and finally takes over his fears.

#

oh great

silver vine
#

anyway

#

its weird that there is no mentioning of the guest in any books, other than book 7 and GN2, despite him being a very famous urban legend, but there are references to him in SN, and HE.

ripe berry
#

It represents the underground park that resembles a Prison

gleaming crown
#

I have a feeling we are going to see Shadowman in Hello Neighbor 2.

gleaming crown
#

I never got that level 2 is not happening in the real world of Raven Brooks. No one is believing that Shadowman exists even in the real world since at least from the part Nicky returns to his parents' house in part 3 and the Shadowman was lurking nearby.

gleaming crown
#

DId he hallucinate the phone ringing?

versed yacht
#

Probably

gleaming crown
#

You Hello Neighbor fans can get pretty thick skinned about what is actually real in the Hello Neighbor universe.

versed yacht
#

It's never really explained, nor is it really important

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Plus the thing is just the representation of fear

gleaming crown
#

There are popular monsters that exist through fear.

versed yacht
#

But it's been confirmed he's nothing more than fear

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If anything Nicky probably sees Mr. Peterson instead of the thing

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Considering that's what he fears the most

gleaming crown
#

What if The Thing is actually Loki considering he has similar powers to Loki?

torpid sinew
#

C’mon tinyBuild

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We’re waiting…

versed yacht
#

He's been confirmed to be fear

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By Nikita himself

torpid sinew
#

Multiple times

versed yacht
#

It's not just a fan theory, the creator of the franchise himself said it

gleaming crown
#

The Thing is fear, but he appears at some parts either shape shifting or hiding in the dark with several eyes. A trope famous for how Loki does his job to cause mischief and chaos.

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Loki as a character is about doing mind games and thinking outside the box.

torpid sinew
#

But

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The Thing

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Was literally confirmed to be

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Fear

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And nothing but Fear

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He doesn’t physically exist

gleaming crown
#

I believe that Secret Neighbor takes place inside an infinite dream created by The Thing.

torpid sinew
#

It’s literally just kids on lsd kids imagining

versed yacht
#

That was also confirmed to be the kids imaginations

gleaming crown
#

The story of Hello Neighbor is not that complicated, but it causes me to think too much speculation.

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There is not that much left to discuss about what possibly happens next in the Hello Neighbor cartoon than the clues in the pilot since the cartoon is not canon and no one else is bothering to predict what new episodes could be about and if there is anything from the books or games that we can make a safe bet will be featured in the Hello Neighbor animated series.

silver vine
#

no ones saying he isnt

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shadow man is the representation of fear

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he represents fear

torpid sinew
#

Yes

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But

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He doesn’t exist

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As in

silver vine
#

he does

torpid sinew
#

You can’t walk up to him and

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I dunno

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Punch him

silver vine
#

ok but

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that doesnt mean he isnt real

gleaming crown
#

A monster doesn't have to actually exist in order to be real.

silver vine
#

its not a monster

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it just represent fears

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nothing more, nothing less

gleaming crown
#

The Thing is like a phantom.

silver vine
#

what

gleaming crown
#

The Thing is not actually there, but this supernatural entity exists as Nicky's fear.

silver vine
#

exactly

gleaming crown
#

So what is the confusion?

silver vine
#

nothing

#

all confusion are cleared

torpid sinew
#

Tiny

silver vine
#

yes?

torpid sinew
#

Tiny are you listening

silver vine
#

yes

torpid sinew
#

You started the confusion

gleaming crown
#

Is DK calling?

silver vine
#

wth

torpid sinew
#

The Thing isn’t real as in “he’s not physically there”

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He’s real

#

But he’s not real real

silver vine
#

hes not real, as in physical form

gleaming crown
#

He is not real like the real Santa Claus.

silver vine
#

but hes real, as in fears

silver vine
gleaming crown
#

Cranky is wondering if Tiny is listening.

torpid sinew
torpid sinew
gleaming crown
#

"Listen up before you drink the potion!"

silver vine
#

hmmmm

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anyway

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I dont think the thing is gonna be in HN2

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cuz, Quentin doesnt seem like hes afraid of breaking into ppls houses

gleaming crown
#

Neither was Nicky.

#

I want a better final boss.

silver vine
gray dome
silver vine
#

he was scared to death

gray dome
#

not what it means

silver vine
#

he broke into the neighbor's house, cuz of desparation

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he lost everything

gleaming crown
#

If Nicky was scared to death, he wouldn't even go near the Neighbor's house despite him being controlled by a human.

silver vine
#

he was forced to break in

torpid sinew
silver vine
#

his family, his friends, everyone abandoned him and despised him

gleaming crown
#

By the same logic as Nicky, Quintin is still going to break in and find out the truth.

silver vine
#

noone really emotionally pressured on him

torpid sinew
silver vine
#

he kinda was

gleaming crown
#

Although Quentin is too geeky for my taste.

torpid sinew
#

He went in on his own accord.

gray dome
#

no he wasn't

torpid sinew
#

He literally went

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“Aight screw everyone I’m saving Aaron.”

silver vine
#

oh ye

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like that

silver vine
#

neighbor made look suspicious, he showed the town that Nicky was the bad guy, and not him

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which made Nicky to lose everyone and everything he had

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his family despised him, his friends abandoned him

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finally he comes to know that Mya is dead

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he first thinks that it was Mr.Peterson who killed Mya

torpid sinew
#

He finds out Mya is dead before his family “despises” him

silver vine
#

what

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n

#

o

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his family despised him in the morning, and he found out Mya's death at night

gleaming crown
#

There are some inconsistencies in the books and it also makes Nicky look more sad.

silver vine
#

thats why he breaks into the basement

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to save the only one alive who can understand him

gleaming crown
#

It all happens for a reason.

silver vine
#

yes

torpid sinew
#

No

#

I’ve read Book 3 multiple times

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Nicky finds out Mya dies first

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He comes home

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And then Luanne gets pissy with him

silver vine
#

you might want to re read that part again

torpid sinew
#

Dude

silver vine
#

he finds Mya died only at the night

dapper depot
#

lemme see

gleaming crown
#

The Hello Neighbor cartoon needs a balance of mystery, suspense and comedy. I want Maritza to steal the show and balance that dark tone by being childish.

silver vine
#

well, the show isnt gonna be linear

torpid sinew
silver vine
#

each episode is gonna have a different story

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a different protagonist for each story

dapper depot
#

I don’t think the animated show should exist

torpid sinew
gleaming crown
#

The pilot implies at the end that there is going to be a continuation next because now the kids have to get back into the Neighbor's house.

#

We probably want to see what will happen next.

silver vine
#

the pilot does imply that

dapper depot
#

the pilot didn’t give us any extra lore

gleaming crown
#

Now you are saying that the cartoon is canon.

silver vine
#

cuz they said that they want most if not all episodes are gonna leave in the cliff hangers

silver vine
#

they dont want a linear series

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they want an open series

gleaming crown
#

They don't have to do the episodes in order.

silver vine
#

they dont

#

there isnt gonna be any order in HN AS

gleaming crown
#

Yes there is.

silver vine
#

no

#

Alex had confirmed this several times

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AS is gonna take place at different points in time

gleaming crown
#

Either way I have my own Hello Neighbor episodes planned and I will post them here.

silver vine
#

nice

gleaming crown
#

My episodes take place from where the pilot left off.

#

Even if TinyBuild keep flipping from different times in the Hello Neighbor universe, they can't escape not having episodes connect if theorists were able to analyze and put the episodes in order they think is correct.

fast marten
#

the j

torpid sinew
#

the

silver vine
#

its all interconnected

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every episode is gonna have a different story

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different characters

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obv everything is gonna be connected

fast marten
#

ok but like

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the j

silver vine
#

?

silent wharf
#

What does this mean, is it cannon or was it cannon at some point?

silver vine
#

what was canon?

gray dome
#

whats a cannon

silver vine
gray dome
#

are you

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🗿

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is this a serious question

gray dome
#

then no

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:trol: