lore-discussion

[wanton drum]

its

incredibly outdated

[grizzled mauve]

ik

but im stuck in that time because i live in the middle of butt hell ass no where

[gray dome]

That is right but way behind

You have a lot of catching up

[wicked heath]

Thx for summarizing 0.3/76 of the HN story

[inner lichen]

Fake Neighbor.

why is he taller than the actual neighbor

[ripe berry]

Who was he before he entered the Shadow Realm

[inner lichen]

here's a size comparison.

[ripe berry]

Fake Neighbor is someone who is taller then Mr.Peterson

AND would be alive in the Early 2000's

[inner lichen]

despite how skinny his arms are

i'm pretty sure someone would confuse him with the actual neighbor

since

I mean, quentin did

So it would have to be someone who has REALLY similar proportions, looks REALLY close to the actual neighbor, and has to be a bit taller.

[ripe berry]

Neighbor_Fake is not a adult Nicky Roth

Don't know why I checked this

[inner lichen]

i mean ofc. it wouldn't be nicky

it would have to be someone ENTIRELY NEW or

idk really.

[ripe berry]

Maybe Neighbor_Fake is Pre-Alpha Man

Both are Existn't

[inner lichen]

no way that matches up at all

plus he isn't canon

he was literally a temporary-

[ripe berry]

Pre-Alpha Man has simmular proportions to the Neighbor

[inner lichen]

y'know player model

wdym it's identical, and Pre-Alpha Man just straight up wouldn't exist in Modern HN

[ripe berry]

(He literally uses the same model as Mr.Peterson, just with a different head

But is a bit taller then Mr.Peterson

[inner lichen]

HN1 used to take place in the (I think) 1960s. Assuming he DOES infact exist in modern HN

he'd likely be much older

or just

idk

[ripe berry]

No the 1960's thing is a camp thingie the Neighbor got as a kid

[inner lichen]

anyway point is, he doesn't exist in modern HN.

[ripe berry]

The game always took place around 1996

That is a asumption for HN1 alphas

Pre-Alpha Man would know what Mr.Peterson looked like, and could make a mask to hide his face

I'll stop talking about that Theory

Next possible Theory

Neighbor_Fake is Bagger/Inventor

[inner lichen]

there's no evidence

wh

but

this takes place after act 2

and fake_Neighbor is an adult

so

that's

not possible

[ripe berry]

HN2 A1.5 takes place in the Early 2000's

[inner lichen]

huh.

[ripe berry]

At the latest 2005

Mr.Peterson looks to be in his Late 50's to early 60's in HN2A1.5

[tame mural]

good point

[gleaming violet]

he also looks like that in HN 2

thats in the mid 90s

[silver vine]

it def isnt

if you have read ALL the books, you'd have known it isnt even simple

its very complex

SN and HE are confirmed to be canon, and HE ending adds a LOT to the lore

[gleaming violet]

it does?

[silver vine]

HE does

yes

[silver vine]

time loops

[gleaming violet]

that was a thing before HE

[silver vine]

yes

in the books

[gleaming violet]

so like

it doesn't add much lore

[silver vine]

it does

[gleaming violet]

i still dont understand

[silver vine]

timeloops happen in 2021

but they do happen in HE

so, that basically confirms that HN2 is also gonna have timeloops

[gleaming violet]

yeah ik they happen in HE

[gleaming violet]

does it tho?

[silver vine]

ofc

[gleaming violet]

its not confirmed

it hasn't been confirmed at all

[silver vine]

so, how many percent chance there is

for timeloops to be in HN2

[gleaming violet]

60%

[silver vine]

hmmmmm

[paper saddle]

How tf is SN canon? I actually thouht this was just a spinoff

also I couldn't play the entire HE bc I don't wanna pay for Stadia

[gray dome]

Lobby is canon

[paper saddle]

oh

[gray dome]

Rocket event endings canon too

[paper saddle]

I guess that's correct

I mean, the story of Peterson and Nicky as well as his family are mostly easy if you played HN, HaS, but The Thing (shadowboy) is the only thing that i don't have the explanation to

also is there any explanation for shadowboy?

[ripe berry]

The Thing is a repersentation of fears

Marzita, Enzo, Trinity, Bagger, Inventor, and Scout fear Mr.Peterson, hence why when you hit Mr.Peterson enough times he turns into The Thing for a bit before dissovling

Same with Nicky, he fears Mr.Peterson and his house, so when around them The Thing appears.

[strange lance]

The Maritza

[ripe berry]

Thanks for noticing that mistake

[wicked heath]

Yes. My sister is a thing

[ripe berry]

||The Marzita||

[fiery otter]

I think shadowboy is the Guest

[ripe berry]

I am making a event timeline for the HN fransichse

[gleaming violet]

spinoffs can be canon

[ripe berry]

Event timeline https://docs.google.com/document/d/14fbj9vwcDySJ-eNaN5yPg-xQC3mQ9CpVY41-CbIxyl4/edit?usp=sharing

[silver vine]

its the kids imagination

[gleaming violet]

why is this on here

it isn't canon

and wheres the proof its in the 2000s

[gleaming violet]

why is act 3 set in 2017 but act 1 and 2 are in 1996?

isn't there a 19 year gap?

not 21 years

[silver vine]

yes

[gleaming violet]

this document makes no sense 💀

[silver vine]

in the books, act 1 is 1996, so, the dude thinks they retconned the time jump to 21 years

[gleaming violet]

💀

and HN 2 A1.5 is on it for some reason

even tho its not canon

[silver vine]

the story of alpha 1.5 can be

[gleaming violet]

its still not canon

its an alpha

whys it on there

and why is animated series pilot on there

why is hello guest listed on there as well

there still hasn't been a book 8 and 9 so why are they on there

[silver vine]

the build itself isnt canon

[gleaming violet]

this document is garbage

[silver vine]

but the story of guest hiding things in the attic may make it to full release

[gleaming violet]

doesn't mean its canon

[silver vine]

wait, wha-

[silver vine]

exactly

[gleaming violet]

why hello guest

why animated series pilot

why book 8 and 9

why HN 2 a1.5

why 21 year time jump even tho its 19 years

[silver vine]

idk

[gleaming violet]

its garbage

[gray dome]

theres not even a book 8 and 9 announced lmfao

[silver vine]

I KNOW

[gleaming violet]

this document is just...

the hell

pre nicky player?

the f

what in the actual hell

whos that

[silver vine]

PAM

[gleaming violet]

oh god

not another idiot that thinks pre alpha man is canon

HES NOT

[pearl epoch]

Skriey

[paper saddle]

Also is Nicky in any way related to Quinton (I'm sorry if i wrote that name wrong)

[torpid sinew]

Pre-Alpha Man is sadly non-canon 😔

[torpid sinew]

No

Oh yeah also

[torpid sinew]

This thing says we don’t know Piper and Delia’s birthdays

Yet with a special technique called m a t h we can pinpoint when they were born

This thing also says H&S happens during book 2

Even though it happens during Book 1

[gleaming violet]

that "event timeline document" is really bad

[torpid sinew]

It’s shit.

[gleaming violet]

i can name most things wrong with it

book 8 and 9... What

AS Pilot is there for some reason

Pre Alpha man is on there, why!?!

Hello Guest is listed as separate from Hn 2

Hello Neighbor 2 Alpha 1.5 is on there for some reason and its listed as in the early 2000s

[torpid sinew]

The fact that PAM is in there

[gleaming violet]

HN 1 Act 1 and 2 are listed as 1996 but HN 1 act 3 is listed as 2017 even tho its a 19 year time jump not a 21 year time jump

Neighbor For Trailer is listed as a separate person to both the guest and the neighbor

H&S is listed as during book 2 even tho it happens near the end of book 1

[torpid sinew]

He also treats crows and vandals as if they’re single characters

[gleaming violet]

💀

[fallow carbon]

Why is Pre-Alpha Man there lmao

[torpid sinew]

:shrug:

[tidal jacinth]

Hey, when was the neighbor born?

Ive seen 1945 and 1955

[mild dome]

i think 1955

[tidal jacinth]

He was 41 in hn1 then

[mild dome]

ok

[tidal jacinth]

So he should still be alive when Nicky comes back to his old house

Where does he go

[mild dome]

i just downloaded hello neighbor 2 alpha : D

[tidal jacinth]

Ok cool

[mild dome]

help

how do I open doors?

[young kayak]

E

[mild dome]

oh

thx

how do i change

tools

[tidal jacinth]

Ah, yes, lore

[mild dome]

help i cant change tools with number keys or mouse wheel

[ripe berry]

I just added him so that the people who think he is canon would shut up, I removed him now

[ripe berry]

I said "are Born" for them, not "is Born" like every singular character

I wrote "The Vandals are Born" and "The Crows are Born"

Not "Vandal is Born" and "Crow is Born"

[paper saddle]

Piper and Delia? Never heard of them lol

[paper saddle]

you have to hold tab to open the inventory and then hover over the item you want to take, and release tab

[silver vine]

no

hes confirmed to be 50 in HN1

[silver vine]

they're from the books

anyway

Quentin found out what happened to Nicky and Mya, and thinks that Aaron is in the museum

[versed yacht]

yes

i discovered that yesterday

[silver vine]

is Aaron in the museum?

[versed yacht]

funny alexsus man responded too so i think it's confirmed

[silver vine]

what'd he respond?

[versed yacht]

"damn you're quick"

#hello-neighbor message

[silver vine]

so, its basically confirmed that hes in the museum

[versed yacht]

well

not really

it's possible and most likely true

but still

[ripe berry]

Guys, do you think RotM is in the final game

[silver vine]

it prob is

Aaron def isnt ded

he didnt spend years in the basement

[ripe berry]

This is RotM in case you didn't know

[silver vine]

and he was well fed

books confirmed it

HN2 is right after act 2

so, he hasnt spent years of his life in the basement

what

act 1 is a part of HN1

how can it be after

[ripe berry]

You meant HN2 right

[silver vine]

no

HNHS is right before HN1

[ripe berry]

NO HS is Before HN1

A full year before

[silver vine]

yes

[gray dome]

W e k n o w

[silver vine]

yes

and HN2 is right after act 2

[ripe berry]

HN3 is Existn't

[silver vine]

HN3 doesnt and will not exist

neighbor wouldnt just let him die, cuz he locked him in the basement to protect him from dying

[fallow carbon]

I mean, Aaron killing Mya was an accident im pretty sure, and Aaron probably did feel really bad yeah, I think it was confirmed in a book or something but I'm only on early book 3 so idk

[wicked heath]

Its a possibility

[torpid sinew]

Wouldn’t it be cool if there was a chase scene

Where you have to carry Aaron out of the museum while being chased by Ted with something

Maybe a hatchet or a shovel

[round geode]

why

[torpid sinew]

Concept art reference

[round geode]

bad omen ?

[round geode]

SUS

[vernal kraken]

the neighbour chased Nicky and his friends with a shovel from the forest to the farmers barn in the books💀

[round geode]

yea but not his son

[fiery otter]

What does RotM stand for?

[ripe berry]

Rumble on the Mill

[wicked heath]

rumble of the mill

[fiery otter]

Okay

[ripe berry]

It's on, not of

[wicked heath]

Minor spelling mistake i lost

[paper saddle]

Can we get a minute of silence for the neighbor, who lost his wife in a car accident, lost his daughter and is in a weird state of depression?

[torpid sinew]

They have names y’know.

[paper saddle]

I know

I'm not THAT stupid when it comes to lore

I am kind of stupid

but not so much to not know the names

btw my favorite OST of hello neighborhttps://youtu.be/kLubRJf_beY

Yes, I did play it since Alpha 1

[gleaming violet]

its not right after

its about a year after

[ripe berry]

Guys, lets banish Borgor to the Shadow Realm

[tame mural]

How about Guest World

[ripe berry]

ok

Chat, I'm pretty sure SN happens in 1996 but have heard a theory that SN is in 1997, which is the right year

[orchid pike]

Guys I feel like hello neighbor 2 might not actually take place after hello neighbor 2 and there's evidence

one the neighbors old house is still there witch should be burnt down

and there's missing posters of nicky roth

[torpid sinew]

what

[orchid pike]

what what?

[torpid sinew]

What do you mean HN2 takes place after HN2

[tame mural]

neighbor 2 might not actually take place after hello neighbor 2?

um...?

huh

You mean Act two

[orchid pike]

I mean hello neighbor 2 might not take place after hello neighbor

[gray dome]

it is and isnt

its after act 2

[orchid pike]

yea probably

though they did say it takes place after the events of hello neighbor I think they could be lying

[shrewd dove]

I am re-reading nog simming and have found 2 extra things so far. 1. There are gaap tickets in a room with a crow like creature on it, confirming that gaap was somewhat crow themed. 2. Quentin drives by the police in the story. I know it’s been a while since it released, but just thought they were cool hints.

[wooden pine]

I have a theory well, now that I think about its probably true, the police hate quentin

[shrewd dove]

Depends on how you treat them, they might help you do some more legal investigate if some donuts “accidentally” slip under the table if you know what I mean.

[wooden pine]

Yeah

But like in the E3 trailer and the beta trailer when quentin drives by the cops, you can see officer Nielsens face gets angry

[vernal kraken]

well in nog simming I read it as Quentin took a picture of the cops and threw the photo with the rock through the graveyard keepers window so like, that alone would probably make them think he's suspect too

[orchid pike]

we all know the crow like creature is the guest

[gleaming violet]

its in 1998

[silent pollen]

ur ugly.

[ripe berry]

This explains why they look at him weird when he drives by

[silver vine]

well, they arent

they say HN2 takes place after the events of HN1

they dont say its after whole of HN1

and HN1 had 4 events

so, HN2 is after 2 of the events of HN1

[ripe berry]

Act 1, Act 2, Act 3, and Act Finale.

[shrewd sedge]

Hello

Hn2 does come after act 2

[orchid pike]

saying after the events in the first one basically means The game

[orchid pike]

probably in-between act 1 and 2

cuz his house isn't "upgraded" like in act 2

[orchid pike]

actually scratch that

[gray dome]

2 and 3*

[gleaming violet]

he didn't upgrade his house lm

at least not much

[ripe berry]

The upgraded house seen in Act 2 is a distorted memory, the house never actually got upgraded

[orchid pike]

ok wait that makes a lot of sense

that's why he's hiding from the cops

cuz nicky told them

after he escaped

[ripe berry]

Welp, that was easy to explain to you, unlike if someone says MitH is Norman Darby (He's not)

[silver vine]

the "upgrades" from act 2 arent real

it was just Nicky imagining those upgrades cuz of PTSD

[orchid pike]

can you read the guy above you Ik

[silver vine]

yes

[orchid pike]

I wonder what the guest is

[gray dome]

Ted

duh

[silver vine]

see for yourself

[orchid pike]

wrong to fat

though

I have a feeling that there related

that's why they both have suits

[silver vine]

no

he is legit the guest

[silver vine]

https://tenor.com/view/neighbor-aritfroz-smile-annoyed-change-mood-gif-16947710

^^ this was a teaser given by the devs in 2019

[orchid pike]

I think they both have suits

[silver vine]

no

[orchid pike]

I am sure that he's related to it and has the same suit

[silver vine]

guest isnt just "a guy in a suit"

hes way more complicated

[orchid pike]

otherwise why is it so skinny

[silver vine]

lemme show you

[orchid pike]

like the neighbor just drinks small juice

[silver vine]

he legit just phases thru the wall and drowns neighbor

and later, neighbor comes out of the water as the guest

@orchid pike

[orchid pike]

the neighbor died

[silver vine]

no

[silver vine]

this was the very next scene

[strange lance]

The guest kinda just stole his body

I think

[orchid pike]

exactly

[silver vine]

we dont really know who or what the guest is

we just know that it is the neighbor

[strange lance]

That's why we should just wait for HN2 to come out 😫

And then decide

[silver vine]

exactly

[orchid pike]

I wonder if the thing and the guest have something to do with the same thing

there both unatral

[silver vine]

thing is representation of fear

guest is...

[strange lance]

Something

[silver vine]

the neighbor

[orchid pike]

I think it might be both real and fear

though I know for sure it is a representaion of fear

[silver vine]

it is

it is confirmed to be representation of fears

ppl see it when they fear something

nothing more, nothing less

[orchid pike]

just like secret neighbor

[silver vine]

yes

[orchid pike]

yes i know a lot about the games it just the books I don't have my hands on

[silver vine]

you def should

[orchid pike]

ik I want some of them

[gray dome]

2020*

[silver vine]

thx

[errant hazel]

uhm, GN2 is before HN2? I kinda forgot

[wicked heath]

Gn2 has its own universe

[wicked heath]

Seems like its taking place around this time, but not in the same timeline. The Dude can talk to a cop no trouble

[errant hazel]

oh ok

[wicked heath]

Tho it seems he still had a family he lost

[tribal talon]

I don't get why channels like game theory were making theories for hello neighbor back in it's alpha builds

Like what is the point of a theory if the game isn't even finalized

[vernal kraken]

fun

[ripe berry]

Wait... everyone now believes that HN has alternate timelines, I thought that was a joke

[gray dome]

It's been a theory for a while....

[gleaming violet]

you what

[bold crow]

no

[orchid pike]

tell me, what even is Gn2?

[daring yacht]

goodbye neighbor 2

[orchid pike]

huh?

[daring yacht]

goodbye neighbor 2

[young kayak]

graphic novel 2

[daring yacht]

oh

[tame quartz]

He is

the description the connection it has to be bro

[ripe berry]

They have two different descriptions

Norman Darby is wearing a windbreaker jacket with multiple pockets, long pants. A baseball cap trying to hide his messy hair, and a pair of glasses on his crooked nose.

Meanwhile MitH is wearing Bandana, hat, trench coat, vest, black striped pants and yellow glasses.

[ripe berry]

Anyways

[gray dome]

more like Norman is Quentin

[torpid sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-stupid-people-small-brain-idiot-fool-gif-16036008

[shrewd dove]

More like norman is norman (neighball for dramatic effect)

[gray dome]

ew

[shrewd dove]

did you just say ew after a comment with neighball in it, I banish you to the shadow realm

[gray dome]

neighball isnt funny

[silver vine]

well, Darby is Aaron's height, and MITH is not and Darby has no reason to spy on the neighbor cuz he already knows his secrets

[copper wave]

the main point is trying to make your own take on the story/try and figure it out before its fully revealed

[midnight bane]

PUTTY

JIJIJA

oh..

you know somthing about hello neighbor 3?

[young kayak]

wut

[pale pendant]

Did a small lore timeline, might of missed something, what do y'all think?

oh yeah, good point

It might've been after

But It depends on the books

but yeah ur probs right

ah yes

thx fr the correction

there we go

[wicked heath]

. . .

[wicked heath]

Where is SN??

[wicked heath]

Graphic novel 2

[daring yacht]

is something wrong

[pale pendant]

Well, ngl I kinda forgot about that one

But I wouldnt give it too much attention

[wicked heath]

I mean, kids look for Nicky for 2 months

Wat about HE?

[pale pendant]

Although maybe the kids in SN are like the kids of some the people in HN2

But thats probs not a thing

[wicked heath]

I dont see either Miguel, Donald nor Joy in HN2

[pale pendant]

Well yes

[wicked heath]

Where?

Srry for ping

[pale pendant]

And hello engineer doesnt really make sense in lore

For me at least

[wicked heath]

Its kids going to park and imagining some adventures to get some parts

[pale pendant]

Exactly

So I mean there isnt really a place in the timeline for that

[wicked heath]

Yes

Sn between act 1 and 2

[pale pendant]

Bc HE and SN are purely mutliplayer purposed

[wicked heath]

So?

[pale pendant]

Not really lorevise

I mean sn could be between act 1 and 2

[wicked heath]

Still kinda important to know Enzo was as determined to find Nicky as Nicky was determined to find Aaron

[wicked heath]

It is

[pale pendant]

Exactly

Bc I think in hn2 there will be like act-vise stuff where each act has its area and its main character

And if we are thinking of the amusement park then the guest is gonna be the main character there

Maybe

[wicked heath]

There is no acts in hn2

And Alex said the park might not be in full game

[pale pendant]

Might not be

[wicked heath]

Also, we see in the beta trailer the guest near the museum

Wrong reply

[wicked heath]

I suppose we will see him often stalking us in town or smth

[ripe berry]

This is a somewhat worse and somewhat better version of @pale pendant's Timeline of HN

[torpid sinew]

Why do you call the Roths the “Rothmans”

[ripe berry]

Because of a mis-pronunciation in the AS pilot

[torpid sinew]

But the AS is bad (burning garbage)

[ripe berry]

I know

But the Pilot is still better then the new artstyle of the AS

You can't come up with a comeback to that

[torpid sinew]

True

[ripe berry]

I usually don't refer to the Roths as the "Rothmans"

I don't know why I did there

I ran out of room for all of the characters but this is a character chart and how they effect each other (Added that Mayor is the mayor of Wayron Croobs because why not (Used some info from HGA1))

I couldn't put several key characters like Jay Roth, Marzita Esposito, Enzo Esposito, Trinity Bales, Scout, Inventor or "Jimmy", Bagger, Farmer, Leslie, Luanne, and more.

[toxic mist]

Who’s Rita Ryland btw

[torpid sinew]

How does Beatrix own Imbir

[ripe berry]

Rita Ryland is Rita Ryland

[toxic mist]

ohh it’s the geography teacher

[ripe berry]

Beatrix has a Imbir pin

That is the only proof I have that Beatrix owns Imbir

[pale pendant]

Yep, better version tho

[errant hazel]

how is that strange bird in H&S canon?

that one in first stage

[ripe berry]

I put that Mya made it, which is true

[errant hazel]

Mya made that?

[opal jackal]

Why did you include Alpha 1.5?

[silver vine]

they legit say its between acts 1 and 2 in announcement trailer

and, the rocket event confirmed that SN is an imaginary plan by the kids to save Nicky

[silver vine]

pretty good chart ngl, you just gotta add SN, it is confirmed to be between acts 1 and 2 and also confirmed to be canon, also confirmed to be the kids imagination

[silver vine]

this is really good

[stoic bison]

the neighbor is secretly god

[ripe berry]

no clue

[hazy slate]

@young kayak @copper wave @hard summit

[toxic mist]

poing

[tribal talon]

is the new neighbor ever gonna come out on console?

wrong one sorry

[main lance]

I saw in the books that there was an accident at the golden apple amusment park that led for the future of it to be broken, just as seen in Hello guest

[main lance]

The neighbor is actualy wanting to keep his son safe

So that

you know

💀

[silver vine]

so that he doesnt die

we all have read all the books

[storm salmon]

[silver vine]

why?

[main lance]

Yeah

[vital meteor]

Alex said some of HN2 will come after Nicky as child

give da cat a imbir hat please

[pale pendant]

Good point, lemme re-do it slighlyy

[daring yacht]

wow lore

[main lance]

this should be in #memes

I think

[silver vine]

it seems the cat wouldnt wear it

[main lance]

Yeah

[pale pendant]

Imbir lore be like

[tropic sedge]

tfw you find out the neighbor dosent actually have super demon powers and that his house isn't real and it's all made up by the kids

hello neighbor lore sucks man

[wooden pine]

secret neighbor lore

[pale urchin]

secret neighbor lore

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor-krasavchik-secret-neighbor-hello-guest-dynamicpixels-gif-20969720

[ripe berry]

Neighbor is clapping

[pale urchin]

Only if it’s an emote

[ripe berry]

People who believe Neighbor is Guest, explain why I had to edit his proportions to make this

Like the width of his legs

[shrewd dove]

Because he isn’t that Peterson

He’s an older version of him I think, idk exactly, depends on the person you ask.

Maybe time travel idk.

[rich temple]

nft

thank me later!

[ripe berry]

Ok, I'll try to do this with NFT

[rich temple]

you when you realize nft is neighbor guest

but edited

🚎

[ripe berry]

(Will Never Actually Do That)

[vernal kraken]

I been literally saying this since December 2019😭🤣 Smiths proportions look way more like Peterson than the Guest lol yet how many people say they're the same?

[ripe berry]

The books

The books are why

in the GAMES Mr.Peterson is not the Guest, but in the BOOKS he is

(Referring to GN2 and RD for books)

[gleaming violet]

Non Fungible Token

[ripe berry]

The Neighbon Forgible Traileren

[pale pendant]

yes

[silver vine]

well, he is the guest even in the games

[gleaming violet]

he is the guest in the games and the books

[silver vine]

exactly

[silver vine]

exactly to be fair

https://tenor.com/view/neighbor-aritfroz-smile-annoyed-change-mood-gif-16947710

^^^ teaser given by devs

that is a drawing

not the actual guest

ok bye

neighbor is the guest

[tame quartz]

funny very funny how did tiny crow get tinybuild

[silver vine]

[tame quartz]

was it because you answered everyones questions on hn lore

thats not fair i have every HN book and have been here since pre alpha

[silver vine]

no?

I paid money

[silver vine]

I read every book too

if you too want to join the club, just become yt member

and link your yt acc to discord

[tame quartz]

Ohhh

well technically i am a paid member

cause i spent over 200 bucks on books

[silver vine]

lol

I dont keep count of the money

I just read and put lore inside my brain

[tame quartz]

yea

me too

[opal jackal]

Lore

[ripe berry]

Explain the lore @everyone

[fiery otter]

Bird society (led by this boi down here) and a bunch of crap related to the Petersons

[ripe berry]

He doesn't lead Birb society

[opal jackal]

The most important part of the lore

[fiery otter]

I thought he did

[fiery otter]

After all, he IS dressed up like a bird even when not possessing Peterson

[ripe berry]

Guest stares at broken Telephone pole

[pale pendant]

POV: you don't know anything about the lore and you try to explain hello guest: So you are some lame guy who somehow found a job at a dead amusement park-place and then some peanut head guy chase you around the whole thing while some other guys beat up your wooden boxes that look like houses. And then for some reason you then find a key that then leads you to some house and stuff. After 5 hours of thinking you uncover the power of flight and then you fly up the house. Then after all that hard work you get caught by some random tax insurance agent and then the game ends.

[pale pendant]

so wait, you become part of the club by being a youtube channel member?

Oh I could do that

[ripe berry]

That is HG

[pale pendant]

Well yes

Its still lore tho

[ripe berry]

The "Random Tax insurance" tries to kidnap the player but the Peanut head guy beats him to it in a extended version of the ending cutscene

[pale pendant]

that also works

the elite version

[ripe berry]

How HN Lore has evolved:

Alpha Lore: So u in coma

Beta Lore: So you are the son of someone, you have a dream of that person, you go visit their grave at the end

Full Game lore: You are trying to save your friend, named Aaron, and end up having life-long trauma

Books 1-3 Lore: Basically the person whose son you tried to save in-game is a theme park designer and you now have 3 friends

[pale pendant]

damn

thats totally acurate

[ripe berry]

SN Lore: 6 people try to save you're player character from HN1

Books 4-6 Lore: You, Aaron Peterson, with the help of a couple friends and family members, nearly destory a entire secret society that gives the whole town bad luck

[pale pendant]

Damn I should read the books

totally forgot about them

[ripe berry]

HE Lore: ...

[pale pendant]

lel

its just not a thing

[ripe berry]

Book 7 Lore: TIME LOOPS

[pale pendant]

yes

[ripe berry]

HN2 Lore: This section is unfinished, you can help me by expanding it

[pale pendant]

wikipedia be like:

I feel like the game is split into a child and a parent side

cause for adults there is HN2

and for kids there is HE

[ripe berry]

I didn't include the GNs

[pale pendant]

oh god

[ripe berry]

GN2(GN1 doesn't have a lot of lore) Lore: Theme Park Designer uses father's weather machine to cause a flood, and fights with a birb man before becoming the birb man

[pale pendant]

he fight the birb man

he become the birb man

circle of life

[ripe berry]

and that is how the lore of this franchise has evolved

[pale pendant]

exactly

its actually kinda cool

[ripe berry]

Here is the entire history of HN lore complied into one message

[pale pendant]

oh god

this is gonna be like a 400 page book

[ripe berry]

Alpha Lore: So u in coma
Beta Lore: So you are the son of someone, you have a dream of that person, you go visit their grave at the end
Full Game lore: You are trying to save your friend, named Aaron, and end up having life-long trauma
Books 1-3 Lore: Basically the person whose son you tried to save in-game is a theme park designer and you now have 3 friends
SN Lore: 6 people try to save you're player character from HN1
Books 4-6 Lore: You, Aaron Peterson, with the help of a couple friends and family members, nearly destory a entire secret society that gives the whole town bad luck
GN1 Lore: ...
GN2 Lore: Theme Park Designer uses father's weather machine to cause a flood, and fights with a birb man before becoming the birb man
HE Lore: ...
Book 7 Lore: TIME LOOPS
HN2 Lore: This section is unfinished, you can help me by expanding it

[ripe berry]

No it isn't

[pale pendant]

oh yeah you did it in that way

well then its not that big

[ripe berry]

Summed up the entire history of the Lore into, like, 40 words

[pale pendant]

well thats pog

well done

[ripe berry]

GN1 Lore and HE Lore are blank

Since there isn't really any lore there

[pale pendant]

well I think they are not really that lore-wise important

[pale pendant]

exactly

[ripe berry]

HN2 isn't out yet so I can't put any lore for it in

[pale pendant]

true true

[ripe berry]

Since it could be changed

[pale pendant]

yep

[ripe berry]

Alpha lore could be summed up in 4 words, so I did

[pale pendant]

alpha lore is interesting

its like important and not important at the same time

[ripe berry]

Beta lore comes from Beta 3 Modkit hidden ending

[pale pendant]

ahhh

ok now I get it

cause I didnt get the chance to play the betas

I only watched other people play it

[ripe berry]

FG Lore is just a basic plot summary

Book 1-3 lore is just a few details from those books

[pale pendant]

yep

[ripe berry]

SN Lore is just a gameplay summary

[pale pendant]

basically

[ripe berry]

Book 7 lore is the thing that is mentioned, but never actually happens in the book itself

[pale pendant]

yus

[ripe berry]

GN2 lore is the circle of life

[pale pendant]

totally agree

[ripe berry]

And that is all

Oh wait,

Book 4-6 Lore is the most complex

Like what is Book 4-6 Lore?

Why the heck have a entire secret society that Aaron, Mya, and Trinity end up nearly destroying

[pale pendant]

lmao

ikr

no logic

[ripe berry]

what is HN2 lore?

I want to know

[pale pendant]

hn2 lore: so basically now not only the neighbor, but the peanut guy, the neighbor and 30 angry people and a dog and a cat run after you for no reason at all and everyone things everyone else is sus

thats basically it

[ripe berry]

Ok

[pale pendant]

ikr

tall

he is the #1 hello neighbor lore god

yes

depends on which one you are interested in

ikr

its amazing

I know quite a lot about the lore

so if you have any questions just ask

thats sadly not a thing

for questins about SN go to #secret-neighbor

its steam connected

or something like that

probs

[young kayak]

please, use #off-topic if you want help

[silver vine]

it is, HE has time loops, Micheal havent played HE, thats why he did put anything

[silver vine]

HE has a lot of lore

there are time loops in HE

[silver vine]

they are tho

[gleaming violet]

thats not a lot of lore

[pale pendant]

Well, you are probably correct

[gleaming violet]

time loops already existed before HE

[silver vine]

but most ppl didnt think it would come in the games

[gleaming violet]

thats dumb

[silver vine]

Ik

[gleaming violet]

aren't timeloops important or some shit

[silver vine]

they are

they have appeared thrice in the franchise by now

[gleaming violet]

ofc they would be in the games

[silver vine]

first in the AS, then, elaborated on in book 7, then at the ending of HE

but many ppl are still telling that time loops will not be in HN2

idk why

[gleaming violet]

when did timeloops appear in AS

[gleaming violet]

thats not a timeloop

[silver vine]

if anyone has this thing, their memory wont get erased when the loop happens

[silver vine]

@gleaming violet you here?

[gleaming violet]

no

[gray dome]

are you

thats a luck device

AS pilot isnt even canon

but whatever

[silver vine]

its not

luck devices dont look like that

[gray dome]

sigh

whatever

sure it is though

does it look like a rig now aND IF U SAY YES I STG

[silver vine]

the gems from book 7 match the desc

[silver vine]

Piper describes it as this: "steak punk looking dial with a gem in the middle"

[silver vine]

does this fit this

yes

also the luck device doesnt have a gem in the middle

it looks like a brass paper weight

[gray dome]

????

what gem

i do not recall a gem

[silver vine]

that thing

if you have it, your memory wont get lost

[gray dome]

itS A RING

[silver vine]

its not

read again

[gray dome]

a ring

does not look like that

okay tell me

wait

nvm

[silver vine]

Piper describes it as "steam punk looking dial with a gem in the middle"

[gray dome]

id use mobile anyway so doesnt matter

tell me the full quote then

[silver vine]

gimme a sec

"A ruby red chip set in sort of circular steampunk- looking dial with a movable wheel, It was too heavy too"

@gray dome here

does this fit the object from AS or a brass paper weight with nothing in the middle, fits the object from AS

[gray dome]

brass paper weight with nothing in the middle

I'll double check tmrw

[tame mural]

it's got gears and stuff in the middle, and most likely some form of power device

[ripe berry]

This proves that Mayor commits Tax Fraud

[tame mural]

Tax fraud...wow...that makes sense

[worldly fiber]

[ripe berry]

This is canon

[ripe berry]

Hmm...

Explain HG in 1 sentence

[tame mural]

Security guard gets chased by a bird man and kidnapped by hat wearing fellow

[opal jackal]

hn2a1 lore: lame guy is now a journalist who is trying to find out what happened to the neighbor guy from the first game, but when he finds neighbor guy's house he finds out that the peanut head guy kidnapped neighbor guy

Now I'm gonna do Alpha 1.5 lore

Jk

I won't

[ripe berry]

HN2A1.5 lore: Lame Guy sees Birb man (Peanut Head Guy) kidnap 3 kids and then Lame Guy breaking into attic to find neighbor dude then it's revealed to be a video game in a video game then someone knocks at Lame Guy's door

[opal jackal]

Raven Brooks Live Feed stream lore: lame guy trys to find out what exactly the peanut head guy is and ends up making HN fans wait 24 hours for HN2A1 to be released

[pale pendant]

peanut head guy is supreme

[main lance]

Wait

In hello neighbor 1 was Nicky living in raven brooks

Because I don't think there is mention of his house in HN2

[ripe berry]

In Act 1/2 Yes in the beginning of Act 3 No the rest of Act 3 and Finale Yes

[main lance]

OK

[ripe berry]

It isn't finished yet

But it does exist

It just uses a placeholder

[main lance]

Somewhere

Most likley

[ripe berry]

Nicky's house is the Green One closest to the camera

[main lance]

Oh

Thanks for that

[ripe berry]

It's a placeholder at the moment

[main lance]

Yeah

Maby When the time comes we might be able to interact with Nicky in the new closed beat onwards.

[silver vine]

ye, we'll def be able to interact with Nicky

cuz, hes on Quentin's bill board

[main lance]

True

may intel

[silver vine]

what?

[torpid sinew]

We’ll get to grab Nicky and throw him at the window

[wicked heath]

and there is a checkmark on his poster in the ign 5 min trailer

[main lance]

ya

[tame quartz]

what do you guys think will happen next

like how do we stop Guest/Peterson

will the curse be lifted

like will Lucy Yi and everyone come together to stop him?

and bring justice to the Raven Brooks society?

[tribal talon]

The man has lost his entire family. I'd rather help him.

[tame quartz]

Mr Peterson is dead bruh

[wicked heath]

help him kidnap kids??

[tame quartz]

the guest just took over his form

by possesing him

[wicked heath]

bc a man lost his family doesnt excuse all the horrible things he has done

[tame quartz]

fr

[tribal talon]

Man's grieving.

[tame quartz]

he caused the death of Lucy Yi kidnaps his own son and his best friend, and scares the joobers out of Enzo

[silver vine]

Lucy Yi is dead

[tribal talon]

Everyone grieves in different ways.

[tame quartz]

doesn't mean she can't come back like a spirity

spirit*

[silver vine]

what? they already bought justice

[tame quartz]

cause we see the guest as a fictional person

no

they

[tribal talon]

That's waaaay too Sci-Fi for Hello Neighbor.

[tame quartz]

haven't

[tribal talon]

Sounds like something that would happen in Doctor Who or something.

[silver vine]

just a theory

[tame quartz]

Cause as long as guest is around he can be causing time loops and dreams

[silver vine]

we dont know what exactly went down there

[tame quartz]

"reset the clock" is going to be based around piper and delia

[tribal talon]

He literally got kidnapped by a bird.

[tame quartz]

Not exactly

more like possessed tbh

he was an easy victim cause of his mental trauma

[silver vine]

they are kinda the same

[tribal talon]

??

[silver vine]

pls dont act like its confirmed

its just a theory

[tame quartz]

it is lol

its been confirmed a bunch of times

ever seen book 7

since*

[tribal talon]

I've never read the books.

[tame quartz]

LOL

ok you are way behind on story

[tribal talon]

I've not found one in the UK yet.

[tame quartz]

oh

rip

[wicked heath]

in secret neighbor (kids imagination), Lucy does come back as a ghost, but she was freed and ascended to heaven

[tame quartz]

do audiobooks then

[tribal talon]

Don't have money.

[tame quartz]

yea see

[wicked heath]

so i doubt lucy is ever gonna come back

her story ended and she ascended

[silver vine]

no

[tame quartz]

all the people that was cursed by Mr.Peterson better be remembered

[tribal talon]

Bars

[wicked heath]

its only shown once actually

[tame quartz]

they haven't made it clear yet how they plan on stopping guest though

[tribal talon]

I feel like Nicky is kinda a bad person.

[wicked heath]

i dont believe that mr peterson got possessed. More like Brainwashed like Venom

[wicked heath]

dude risks his life multiple times for a year trying to save his best friend

[tribal talon]

Peterson is tryin' to protect his kid from being killed.

[wicked heath]

bc he knows only him can make a difference

[tribal talon]

That's my theory at least.

[wicked heath]

And Aaron is living in hell in this basement

[silver vine]

its not a theory

pls

[wicked heath]

filled with mannequins and deadly rides, fed up with some chinese takeout

[silver vine]

its a fact

[tribal talon]

Well excuuussseee me. I didn't know that.

[silver vine]

neighbor locked up his son Aaron in his basement because he did not want him to die like his wife and daughter

the books confirmed it

[wicked heath]

Nicky didnt know the intentions of Peterson

[silver vine]

guest is the neighbor, yes, confirmed

[wicked heath]

And even if mr peterson did it for a gud cause, he destroys Aaron's life

[tribal talon]

Fair, but he must of known what he was doing was illegal.

[silver vine]

guest is a being which can possess ppl, just a theory, not confirmed

[tribal talon]

The protagonist in HN2 is more in the right.

[wicked heath]

And he knows that nobody cares about Aaron except him

[tribal talon]

He's investigating something he was told to investigate.

[wicked heath]

not the police, not his friends, not his parents

[silver vine]

no, he wasnt told

[tribal talon]

What even happened to Nicky's parents?

[tribal talon]

Still.

[silver vine]

hes investigating cuz he has GUTS

[silver vine]

noone knows as of rn

[wicked heath]

(its said that he is not suppose to do that, but just like Nicky, he knows he is the only one who can make a difference)

[wicked heath]

They lose faith in their son

[silver vine]

Quenitn legit breaks into the homes of everyone in the town

Im sure thats illegal

[tribal talon]

What, and left?!

[wicked heath]

no, they just lost faith in him

[tribal talon]

At least he knows what he's doing.

[silver vine]

ye

[tribal talon]

Nicky sure as hell didn't.

[silver vine]

Nicky didnt know what he was doing

he was just desparate to find his friend

[tribal talon]

Yeah.

He got kidnapped cuz of it.

[wicked heath]

while everyone, was trying to ignore the lost ones and just tried to be a normal person, Nicky was different

[tribal talon]

In ACT 2.

[silver vine]

neighbor made Nicky look sus so that ppl will hate him which will force Nicky to come to the basement

so that Aaron can have his friend in his prison

[wicked heath]

i think this relates to Nicky a lot

[tribal talon]

Remember when MatPat said that The Neighbor made a deal with the devil lmao

[wicked heath]

Oh pls not Matpat

[tribal talon]

Ikr

[hazy slate]

He's breaking in everyone's house dude

he's probably more bad then nicky

[tribal talon]

At least he knows what he’s doing.

[silver vine]

well, everyone has some dirty secret

thats why Quentin's breaking into their houses in the first place

[tribal talon]

But like, how will it help the investigation of Mr. Peterson?

[silver vine]

idk

[hazy slate]

I know but still.

Quentin would have no idea these houses are tied to ted

unless there's clues in the beta

[silver vine]

they arent tied to Ted tbf

they tied to the town

the town has a big mystery

[hazy slate]

yeah but Quentin is mainly investigating theodore

[silver vine]

yes

his main investigation in Theodore, finding Aaron, Mya and Nicky

[hazy slate]

why risk your life for info that isn't even related to your current investigation

[silver vine]

but he also wants to find the big mysery surroiunding Raven Brooks

[hazy slate]

true

[silver vine]

the big mystery tying to all of the citizens of the town, Theodore himself, and most importantly, the guest

[hazy slate]

I still wonder what the guest is. We both know it's Theodore but the guest does weird stuff in GN2

such as appear in dreams and possibly kill ted

[silver vine]

ye

we'll prob get the answer in HN2

[silver vine]

I also dont think he straight up killed Ted

cuz, for one, they didnt find his body, and piece pf Ted's sweater was seen in the end

for two, they wouldnt kill of the main selling point of the franchise

[hazy slate]

it makes me wonder

how did he change clothes so fast

what happened to the real ted

[silver vine]

it wasnt so fast

it was a while

he was underwater for a while

[hazy slate]

I think im gonna read everything again

cause it's been awhile since I've read Nicky's books

and GN

[fiery otter]

I'm still going to hold on to my theory that the Guest is the Thing until something major disproves it

[silver vine]

hmmmmmm

Thing isnt real tho

[hazy slate]

it sorta is and at the same time isn't

cause it's something that manifests for everyone when they feel extreme fear

[silver vine]

ppl hallucinate it when they are full of fear

[hazy slate]

yeah

[silver vine]

how and why would a manifestation of fear, get a brain of its own, steal things ppl dont deserve, kill and kidnap ppl?

[hazy slate]

dunno

[silver vine]

exactly

thats why I think guest is not thing

[hazy slate]

I agree

but I do think it probably has more to it

[silver vine]

hmmmmmmm

[hazy slate]

since multiple people see it

[gray dome]

Ask Classic

[chrome sun]

I’ve seen something that the guest is a human

[stray nova]

👍

[lone rock]

l

[main lance]

Its true

[wicked heath]

he is

[ripe berry]

Correct!

+40 social credits

[obsidian thunder]

perfect conclusion

[silver vine]

what is the canon color of the front door of the act 1 house?

white or red or brown?

[tribal talon]

Idk

Wdym brown

Ooohhh hn2

I say white

[silver vine]

why?

[tribal talon]

Because ACT 1 of HN1 happened before HN2

And Alpha 2 isn't technically canon.

[silver vine]

well, the door is red in HNHS and the animated series

[opal jackal]

He paint it white and then red

[tribal talon]

HNHS?

Oh

Hide & seek

[opal jackal]

Hello Neighbor ha and sus

[tribal talon]

Wait how is the ACT 1 house even there in HN2?

I thought it burned down.

[opal jackal]

HH2 takes place after 2 act and before act 3

[silver vine]

HN2 begins right after act 2

[tribal talon]

Oh ok

Then where are all the extensions?

From ACT2

[silver vine]

they werent real

[tribal talon]

What?

[opal jackal]

Yeah

[silver vine]

Nikita said that act 2 was distorted memory

[tribal talon]

Oh ok

So they pulled a J.K Rowling?

[silver vine]

idk

[tribal talon]

Changing things AFTER the full thing has released.

[silver vine]

no

I dont think act 2 beign a distorted memory was a change after full release

it was obv that it was a distorted memory

for one, neighbor couldnt have added such huge extensions in a very small amount of time

for two, puzzles in act 2 make no sense

[tribal talon]

Fair enoughj

[silver vine]

for three, Nicky just wakes up after act 2

DTM, what're you typing for so long?

[opal jackal]

Which Raven Brooks is canon?

HN1 -
Books - 📕
HN2 Alphas -
HN2 Beta -

[wooden pine]

Alpha

[silver vine]

HNHS -

SN -

[wooden pine]

Funny

[silver vine]

HE - 🔧

[tribal talon]

Defo HN1 and HN2

And HNHS

[tribal talon]

Animated Series - 🖊️

[silver vine]

I'd say HN2 full game

cuz, HN1 was distorted memory, HNHS was half imagination, SN was imaginary plan