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But @tribal talonGT might enjoy analyzing it...
wut
bruh i would be so annoyed if i was just scrolling and misclicked, and ended up clicking on that link
More like you would be hacked.. and then they find ur location kill u, and ye, then u could be sad
i think they would just download a virus onto your computer and steal stuff
like murder is a little drastic
just imagine someone's account becomes "deleted user" tommorrow
sprints out
Then some video mentions the Tavishes founding Raven Brooks funding Mr Peterson's parent's work and they got arrested and ye
i don't know the lore has been a lie
dont forget
there is still other forest protectors
ik
that didn't get arrested
Well they lost the devices, so they lost luck
So I think, they're not dangerous anymore
what is going on here
how long do you guys think nicky was in the basement
personally i think he was trapped for 6 months
2 months
this neighbor model is way better than the one in HN1 in my opinion
Nikita said it on interview
oh really
ye
thats not that long
well, its long enough
Okay then
Stay in a dark damp basement with little to no food for 2 months
i read the whole entire nog simming channel
its really good
i hope they add more chapters
it's ended since june
kinda off topic, but why not to add back usual voice chats, like default ones, without a bot
Same
I really love that model
Hope he's gonna be in HN2
This is the hn2 model
I know
Where do you think we got it from
That's the problem
I'm just afraid, that they will cancel that model somehow, I dunno why
They wouldn't spend time modeling, uv mapping, texturing, rigging, animating, and even adding a guest version for nothing
Fun fact his anim is actually really high quality
Like it's really well animated
Wow
Neighbor looking creepy :: 
We also have the guest AI using his guest model
ik
Oh
That would probably make the game harder since it just going to random places waiting for the player to come out
I was just saying that I really love that model, and i would be really sad, if they cancel that
No like the model it fine but that crow guy aka neighbor
Will keep on catching you out of nowhere like hello guest
You have to look at him in hg
And hopefully they add back him being afraid of lights but I doubt they will seeing as he covers everything around him in lights
He's afraid of lights? In HG?
I'm sorry that i don't know that, because my pc really sucks, so I'm playing it on xbox
There's also some mixer craftables like a lamp that lasts longer and a hat with lights on it
I like that crafting mechanic
Hope it's gonna be in full game
And I would like to know, if shop is gonna be in full game too
everything you saw will be in full game
I'm just interested how you will get money
exactly same as you did in hello guest alpha 1
Maybe by breaking in someone's house, finding evidence in locked rooms, than make news on it...
Really don't know
HG is on xbox you know
Yes, I'm playing it on xbox, I just wanted to say, that it may not have all features that are on pc
that's port from pc
Yeah
Ok, I wasn't sure
good news to you
he will be
its a model from the files called "neighbor_old"
well, the other model will also be in the game
where?
I thought they were people in suits
personel questions
well, they were FPs
cuz Piper said that she imagined them to have feathers in their suits
so, its pretty much heavily implied they were FPs
ah.
eh not really I'm pretty sure he was treated ok, plus pretty sure there was a amusement park in the basement plus he was with Aaron, his best friend
he does look beaten tho
jesus that sounds incredibly dark once you think about it
he is already in, but we can only see footsteps and hear his noises
no i mean like
if that wasnt there
the footsteps and the costumes
why couldn’t he be there
like
hello guest lore wise
he is in sn??
since 1 year
thanks
its not fake ?
No it's not
well, to the town guest is just an urban legend
they dont know that its the neighbor
and, SN is the kids imagination
the kids just imagine breaking into neighbor's house to save their friend
why should they imagine, what they know is an urban legend, to be in the neighbor's house
well, if they could imagine his house big like this, mayak and man in the hat, why not the guest?
it would be really cool, seeing guest in other games
+there's his statue in map 5
well, if they add an event to map 5
he could very well be involved
but, guest as a class is very unlikely
i think, that it is confirmed, that he's not gonna be class
but that would be really cool
i do
Isnt it the same house as one of the pictures in book 1?
alphas are canon confirmed???
Ik
cause maybe they think its really scary
urban legends do tend to be scary doe
like
like uhhh
like goosebumps books
and they probably played hn and hello guest
so they probably know he has ties to the neighbour in some way
which is they’re both made in the same universe
hey but then again
my brain hurts
wait what
hello neighbor inside hello neighbor
my brain has officially exploded
what?
according to them, the guest shouldnt even be related to the neighbor
they dont
and what?
He tripped while in the basement
i love how the three versions of the neighbor, one character, aren't even the same height
Neighbor Fake and Guest are the same height
ik but still
it looks hilariously stupid
he just squishes his head into a ball so he can put on the beak
what
Neighbor Fake isnt even there tho
what
NF isnt even in this pic
whats wrong with that?
idk
Hello Guest is partlly Canon
Secret Neighbor map 5 keeps some things from the Hello Guest Map
Like the guest statue on a hill
or the ferris wheel having the thing that the carts hang from being white and not a "Copper" looking texture
well, the story of HG will be in HN2
so, we all know that its partly canon
i'd say some stuff in it is scrapped
but not 100%
I got a feeling beatrix will be a seperate story
Wasn't it's obviously gonna be like that
That's what happening in hello guest
2 separated stories
well, no
cuz, Nikita said nothing from HG is scrapped
Just why you thinking they scrapped something
yes, maybe they scrapped little things, expanded map, etc
but why some guys thinking that whole hg is scrapped
I didn't say the whole game genius
I said SOME
i didn't said you
i said SOME guys
Beatrix's story in Hello Guest takes place after Quentin's story
Lemme ask guys
Yes?
Has anyone played resident evil 2 remake
Ask that in #off-topic
It has exactly same thing we saw in hga1 with Quentin and Beatrix
No no, it's related
Explain how it is related
It has 2 playable characters
Other then that?
And it's working exactly same as hga1
Firstly we playing for 1 character, after beating the game, 2nd character gets unlocked and we can play the same story from different perspective
and same thing can happen for hn2
Beatrix's story is after Quentin's in HGa1. Do you want proof?
They aren't the same story from different persecptives
Quentin in HGa1 is Ike, that's why the game got turned into HN2, because the male character in HGa1 is dead after the events of the game
the only real thing in beatrix's story that has the same people is the ending with the man in the hat
what
Quentin was never Ike
LOL
gotta love bad planning and communication. Since they gave his design to the book illustrator for that character lol
Quentin existed even before Ike appeared in the books
in order for the character to look exactly the same as the game design someone from the dev team must have provided the book illustrator and writer the game character
that's. how production works
well
Ike's dead
he cant be Quentin
no
Ike is neighbor's best friend
why should he even think of breaking into his house and find secrets
Ike knows what secrets he hides
i don't think that was technically possible in times when Ike appeared in books
since hg/hn2 is like somewhere around act 1/2
and when Ike died?
years before HS
Yeah he been dead for a while
idk who should we blame for the similar appearance and description
Norman darby: sad noises from being lonely
it's just funny omg
2 different guys
but
looks same
both were guards
both have "Quentin" in full name
Well norman darby is said to look like reporter quentin
Backwards cap and that stuff
but Darby is old as heck
he can never be Quentin
and, Darby too, like Ike, knows all of neighbor's secrets
exactly
He also knows the future
Somehow
only, maybe.... maybe, in random case, one or two new minor npc's somehow will be related to some random characters from the books
I have a theory that Quentin is a relative of Ike
they are related only by someone stole Quentin's appearance
we dont really know if book ppl stole Quentin's model
Ike also looks kinda different from Quentin
he has a straight moustache
Well they clearly aren't the same person
Cuts himself
That's indefensible. They just reused Quentin for new character that was called "Ike"
what proof
proof that they reused Quentin's model for Ike's
Maybe Quentin took a job at the park to find out what happened to Ike. Just a theory
open your eyes and you'll see it
Im seeing Ike's model rn
appearance, description, slightly modified "characteristics", even name
the only thing similar to Quentin is the head shape
Quentin is parttime security guard, whereas Ike is full time
and this ^^^^
Im comparing Quentin's model to Ike's rn
has it been confirmed how old Quentin is?
no
wanna hear a stupid theory with no backing evidence anyway?
that there's a 90% chance it isnt canon
wait
is ike the same age as ted?
I forgot
Most likely
okay does the books say anything about ike's relatives, wife etc.
Idk
Bosco bay
yes
few years before that
Ok
Quintin
Then die
then after a few more years
Ok
the petersons move back
Ok
prehaps
They move back and die?
something happened to the mother
Ok
and the child who is now an adult
Is
No
this is years later
Oh after act 3
After hn5?
would get a job oppertunity
Ok
in Raven Brooks
Lore 1.5
(yes this theory sucks eggs)
Lore 2.0
tinybuild can't count to 2 like valve can't count to 3
i has reports u for saying forbidden number
They can
He left the server got a job and is being elected president so he can get police to kill u
hello sir he is sying 2 am very offed hep now
I thought u pinged him
lol no- UH
IT'S REAL
YOU WILL
NOW GET
BANNED
Ban
what is bosco bay ? i dont read the book
I kinda like the theory RavenBrooksCitizen was laying out about Quentin
it sucks but yeah
he could have been called quentin after Ike's middle name
it would also explain why he would have a map and not know the layout of the town already
the very first amusement park built by neighbor
In Hello Neighbor 2 alpha 1 the Guest has the clipboards from Hello Guest Alpha 1 meaning the Guest hired the Man in the Hat in Hello Guest to kidnap the player
🤦♂️
well, thats not true
cuz in the extended HG ending, Guest fights with MITH
How do you know they are the same person?
what
Guest literally fights with MITH in the extended HG ending
Both Guests are in a costume, and you can not see their face, so they could be a different person
The one in HG and the one in HN2 after all, it is Litterally a mascot costume
that the guest is wearing
they arent different ppl 
they are one and the same guest
Mr.Peterson
The Guest is the mascot of the Golden Apple Amusment Park
How do you know the one in HG is even Mr.Peterson
He makes a different sound then the Guest in HN2 Alpha 1.5
in case you didnt know
the sounds from HG were placeholders
Is this ironic or uh
and?
the sounds from HG wont be in full game
That means they would have mutiple costumes
Red guest theory…
I Don't Even Know Anymore
Maybe the guest just stole the character profiles, we don't know how much time passes from HGA1 to HN2A1/1.5
(HGA isn’t canon)
But I’m not
It is more canon then you think
it's not canon
"just believe me bro"
Not canon ≠ scrapped
So the story could be incorparated in HN2 after all there will be like 100000 sidequests
That’s what i was trying to say tc
and more sidequests added after the games release
making the game technically canon
but not at the same time
because there will be no "Canon" way to play HN2 Full Game
because the A.I. Is constantly evolving you won't be able to play it the "Canon" way more then once if there is a Canon way to play it
reminder that canon is just media that are officially considered part of the story, gameplay wouldnt even be considered for canon
classic spoke
I have been abducted by ailens
and sent to a different universe
help
someone help
i never said they werent
but the way that the players play the game wouldnt matter either way
whats important is the story of those games
gameplay isnt canon?!?!!?
things explained through text or cutscenes
since when?
I get it
Gameplay is canon or else what is the Canon HN2 events
like the player can goof off during gameplay, would it be officialize in lore that nicky spent 20 minutes flinging with a trashcan?
and
HN2 has dynamic cycle
so, you can sit in the game for hours
months will pass by in the game
HN2 will have 1000000 different sidequests and stuff so, what is the canon HN2
that doesnt mean that its canon
the fact that they exported finished cutscenes with sounds in hga1 already means base map is still same, so not scrapped as some says
the canon contains all those side quests, but the player can just not do them
the player chooses what they want to do, but that doesnt mean those side quests arent canon or important
or playing not doing sidequests?
so, you're saying Quentin breaks into every home in Raven Brooks in the canon HN2?
Then in what order?
well
canon word is related only to the story, not to the gameplay
games like Breath of the Wild for example has entire main storylines that are canon, but you can skip them entirely and beat the game instantly
Nikita said that you can do them in any order you want
exactly
No, what is the Canon order?
there doesnt need to be
we just know these events happen in their designated time
nothing needs to be exact
what order, based on how devs saying, it'll be gta/cyberpunk style
there is no canon order
HN2 is probably going to have the most lore out of all the games
yes
because everyone in Raven Brooks will have a secret to figure out
Killing Ganon with a stick

Bruh stop talk BOTW
This is a lore disscussion channel in the HN sever not Zelda server
and im notg dead
SUS
hello neighbor 2 dosent exist
then where did your pfp come from
If hn2 doesn't exist then neither does hg
hg exist but hn2 alpha 2 dosent exist
hello neighbor lore
Correct it will instead be Beta 1 footage
@patategone#5921 @patategone#5921
Why?
a
Lol
I'm back from my mute
how'd you get muted?
Spamming @round geode
ah.
Raven Brooks is actually a pentagon
I have a feeling that the gems from book 7 has some connections to why is that
and the thing from the tv show
This thing
is every alpha in hn2 canon
no
ok
thats the gem from book 7
thats the thing i was literally talking about
thanks kopopa
hi
English please

Was the guest a forest protector?
I don’t believe still that the guest was a forest protector xD
he isnt
good news to you
he isnt
those "forest protectors" most likely also copied, used as a base, from guest
like they did with ike and quentin
like ike and quentin, guest and forest protector, they looks same and etc, but at same time they totally different
Imagine if someone believes brave is guest
bave is guest 😱
jk
guest and FP look nothing alike
FPs are more like plague doctors
but with feathers in their suits
whereas guest is well...
you can't deny the fact that many people come here and say that they looks same
thats cuz they dont know much about them
thats cuz they both are half human half bird hybrids
other than that
they share nothing in common
(tinyCrow, pls dont kill me) The guest has a different form in book 7 but overall stays the same character, correct? So what if.... Eh.....
guest is based on FPs...?
Dats a random theory that i dont fully believe in
guest can't be based on forest protectors, because book 7 out long after hgp
or when those forest protectors appeared
hgp had compiling date
january or february 2019, don't remember
No i mean, in the LORE
The person who made the costume
Not the dev or character designer
mm
you have to admit, mr peterson has some artistic talent
that would have been hard to make
he is a designer...
they appeared in December 2019
HGP was found in January 2020
hgp was developed in february 2019
yeah
yes
well, guest was the mascot of GAAP
so, Ted could've taken the urban legend of FP, modified a lil, and have it as the mascot of his park
by searching "/hpg" i found out that classic was first who found it
O
golden apple is real
No way
greenhouse M13
greenhouse had unlocked the file, but i was the person to find the link to it
yes
what has this chat become?
what the hell
so
why did in HN1, Aaron and Mya's missing poster had cardboard cutouts
and in HN2, the poster has their real faces
"Nicky doesn't remember everything exactly as it was"
act 1 is completely real tho

Probably because their designs weren’t finalized yet
right after hn1, they started to make hs, so they already had design of these characters, obviously
if they started to make HS after HN then that obviously means they didn’t have the character designs already
this is not an excuse. by that logic they were able to change those posters in next few updates
but they didn't
It wasn't always there, it was added in an update
Also
Wasn’t the simming poster around in Beta 3
Not like
In game
But like
In the modkit
Actually it was in-game aswell
Ah
Even in beta 1 they already had presumptive kids design
ok?
anyone gonna explain to me why Peterson wearing aaron's shoes in GN2?
wh
when the guest drowns Ted
umm... no.... they dont....
bruh
they dont
its then revealed that Peterson is The Guest right after... The Guest drowns Peterson....
also, is anybody not wondering why nicky is digging in the middle of the night and somehow got Mya's bracelet?
without being conscious???
I have
what has this chat actually become?
you will never KNOW...
guest is the neighbor
It's a demon that looks like the neighbor
They could pull one heck of a twist and it is Aaron makes sense with him drawing the raven man and having kid guest costume in the special nickys diary entrys
HN2 takes place in the 90’s
Aaron isn't the guest
when did hn1 take place in
1996 I think
so hn2 takes place in around 1998 to 2000
Probably
Yeah
Act 3 is 2015ish
thanks
uh, (speechless)
2017, according to Nikita
isn't act 1 in 1996
in the books
its either 1997 or 1998 in the games
w h y
First it takes place in the early 200 h2 considering they have things that you would not have in 90s if you don't believe me look at graphic novel 2 where they have proper mobile phones we have now second i have read the gn2 30 times and no matter what you say that thing that emerged from the water looking like him is not him i don't know what it is but the neighbor we is either or trapped by the guest i say dead because they show the bubbles stopping and would explain why the guest is able to do stuff you can't do as a human unless your young or a demon I'm not saying it's the thing or Aaron but knowing how hn likes to delve in to supernatural and that type of stuff I would not put it past them
it's so good when you're just waiting for the hn2 full release and don't argue with anyone😴
I'm just saying what I know and seen
Don't spam it
Still don't have to be rude they could have asked nicely
It's 1996 in the books, in the games it's 1998
^^^^^
and irl events happened in 1997
¯_(ツ)_/¯
To be fair that date hasn't changed since like Alpha 4, it's probably part of the old story
so then why they didn't changed it
Don't know, ask them
It's in 1998, Nikita said that Act 3 takes place the year the game came out, and the time between Act 2 and 3 is 19 years
well
.
shit
what does ROP SUED mean?
only reason why they should release an update for hn1 is to update this god damn milk
why does it say September?
that's because of this
they didn't bothered to check actual date, because they don't really cared about it
most likely they will change it in next planed update
(if they noticed it ofc)
what does the top text mean?
Dunno
it's has to say something like "manufactured, fabricated, constructed" based on russian mixed version
here's the thing
most likely they not really care about the dates
so like 97 or 98
no difference
yes
that's not 20 or 50 years difference
only 1 year
the fact that Nikita didn't knew actual neighbor's age already says a lot
because this is not important thing in hn2 at all, they just don't care about it as we care about it
he knows
he just forgor
ok, I'll choose for real this time
47
what
U will never find my secrets
WHY not now die
Thats what i thought too!
hey have u ever HEARD of.... milky bananas??
Milky bananas...is that a Dakblake reference?
Dakblake Lore is the most complicated lore
~~he is i think ~~
ah i see
very lore here
yes so uhh guest neighbor ?
yes
yes
yes
YES
YES
YES
Wait whats Officer Keith's description i'm planning on drawing him and its not on the wiki and i also can't find it in the book
Read book 1 and 5
actually, i still don't understand one thing
i know - hello neighbor 2 alpha 1 isn't most likely canon, and i don't know, if you talked about this before
but why does Ted have 2 desing in same alpha?
in the first cutscene
and in ending
ik, its just an alpha, but still
kinda strange and interesting
again - if you talked about that before, im sorry pls don't kill me
NFT (neighbor for trailer ) and buff neighbor
yes, but why they are at the same time, in the same alpha?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe they forgot to change the model when they used it for the trailer cuz y'know, the name of the model
They said alpha 1.5 had a bit of lore
And I Think they meant kid guest and the other kids since it's in the other game with nickys diary entrys and they were in the dev log
Yes
the trick or treaters are in the AI trailer too
yes
as missing posters
we see their posters in AI trailer
meaning, they are still missing
BEEP BEEP BEEP!!! Nicky-is-Neighbor-son Alert!! #hn-memes message
NOOOOO
i love how its just buff neighbor
BUF
3+++7

the most thing i’m confused how is the neighbor simming if he just to kidnap kids?
hes on the run from cops
this also takes place between act2 and 3
no
SN takes place between acts 1 and 2
oh
then why is the house so small
what
house is small
act 2 was a distorted memory
incase you've missed the QNA
the extensions and fences werent real
ssecret neighbor was an imagination and this was a distorted memory
why are these 13 yr olds having distorted memories
✊😔they been through some shit
well, Nicky was 30 when he had distorted memory
and, SN kids didnt have distorted memory
it was imagination
act 2 too
ok lets just forget its been confirmed it wasn't a dream
IT WASNT
A DREAM
DAMN IT
calm the shit down
ok wat was act 3
self therapy
they could have just made it a dream
and how do u know that
it was clearly meant to be a dream when they made HN 1
but it was prob retconned
ppl who have read the books would know how important act 3 is in Nicky's life
act 3 is a very crucuial turning point in his life
not a mere dream
why wont anyone even understand that?
is it so hard to understand it?
not everyone is on omega shitwork
so it is in the books
no
Nikita also confirmed act 3 is not a dream
ok
he said this:
Act 1 is real
Act 2 is distorted memory
Act 3 is a self therapy
cmon ppl, nothing in HN ever was a dream
-Nikita Kolesnikov
h o w
Hello Engineer takes place...
after Hide And Seek
probably after act 1
and maybe after act 2
we dont really know
we need to ask them in a qna
ending
It’d make sense for it to take place between act 1 and 2.
Meowww
it does tie in with HN2
|| HE has time loops||
it makes more sense to be between acts 2 and 3
...Wait how does Ghost Neighbor make sense? He's somehow a freaking ghost, and the Other Two sorta make sense the clown is explained in the books, but ghost neighbor means Mr. P would have to be dead. (P.S. i known sn isn't exactly canon but this is still confusing anyway)
SN is canon
why do ppl always saying that SN isnt canon?
key
and toilet paper
do you know how canonicity works in SN?
Dewd Chill out
SN is the imaginery plan of Nicky's friends to save him from basement
they can imagine whatever they want
Ok...? thats your opinion
and whats yours?
well, rocket event confirmed it
alright then
moon eats you, and you literally just wake up
no no, don't worry, he tried to, but someone helped him
😭
The rope on his neck, I can’t-
He also has a scar on his right eye
and a bullet in his head
that's what i meant by "someone helped"
what I am unable to accept is the devlog 5
"On October 23rd 2019, Mr.Peterson's house was ransacked by teenagers"
October 2019
XD
😭
they meant release date
not actual very important lore
Hello neighbor gameplay: BRO IM SO FAST YOU CANT GET ME SLOW MANN.
Hello neighbor lore:
falls over like a chump and scratches their leg somehow
Yu0
?
have any of you guys ever thought about how golden apples don't make sense in universe
no its the lore
imagination
I just say because I was writing a story and trying to incorporate Golden Apples (from the books, since in the games they're just... an apple made out of gold)
In "Bad Blood" we learn the origins, and how it was just a warm caramel truffle that she poured chocolate on, and so they mixed together and made little apple shapes. Makes sense, but then they open up a factory and start selling them.
Do they just sell them as is? Did they make any changes, like making them bigger, or putting it over marshmallow or something?
And in both "Bad Blood" and "Buried Secrets", a kid mentions a "chocolate Golden Apple", and then also in "Bad Blood" they mention a "peppermint Golden Apple". Isn't chocolate already in the recipe, since it's chocolate and caramel? Do they just use a caramel base and then mix stuff into it, like melted chocolate or peppermint? So is caramel the standard one? Just.. a plain caramel shaped like an apple? Then there's chocolate, which is caramel mixed with chocolate, and peppermint which is caramel mixed with peppermint or... what?
What are Golden Apples is basically what i'm trying to figure out... any ideas? It'd be really helpful
apples that are golden
your a literal child
ok
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/903002974425608222/903262112158195732/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/903002974425608222/903235885095591936/unknown.png
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/903002974425608222/903268519951622224/unknown.png
any of you found this in alpha 1.5?
can anyone translate what these say?
We're trying
I'd try but I don't want spoilers lol
What is this from
I know it‘s Secret Neighbor, but is it new?

