#lore-discussion
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Even the steam post says alpha 1.5 gives clues to full game
alpha 1 isn't canon....
I mean, its guest kids costume
you sure?...
Absolutely
i don't think so...
im pretty sure its somewhat canon
GN2 literally makes alpha 1.5 canon
how
Guest takes over the neighbor in GN2
Neighbor is shown to be locked up by guest in alphs 1.5
so
And?
????/
????/
And what?
They arent 100% canon
How?
It didnt even give clues to full game
As the story wasnt laid out
Pretty sure it was to tease 1.5
Since that costume is guest kid's costume
At least that's what I think what alpha 1 ending was
the alpha 1 ending seems like a teaser for the alpha 1.5 ending
just my opinion tho
I think it's easy to say alpha 1 is not canon at all
I'd say only the ending is canon. Besides that 1.5 makes no sense
And by ending I mean quentin in his office
Neighbor banging on the door is most likely a metaphor, and the halloween kids are just something else
Maybe Quentin had a mini camera
and he recorded what was going on while he invesigated the guest's housee
so he was rewatching what he did
Alphas aren't canon
they are
So alpha 1 is canon?
HN1 Alpha 1?
true
1.5 gives clues I believe
Yes
Ye
Ye, metaphor of neighbor being blocked off by guest
I mean, you are literally going against citizens of Raven Brooks, like mayor, taxidermist, baker and farmer
No? Dude its not illegal to play a certain way, i know and acknowledge that it is the neighbor, does that mean i have to follow that concept like its law? no
I think my point still stands Tiny crow
and me i'll be in the game to u have to find out my seceret
Yes
Tbf, guest isnt entirely the neighbor too
The new book implied the guest is a different being, who takes things which ppl dont deserve
And it just uses the neighbor's body
prehaps it was born from the forest protectors
what if they were worshipping IT
to cause storms to power the devices
summoned
How did they summon a baby bird
they could have woken it up
via doing the ritual
and it took a liking towards ted to use as a vessel
funni
go to #off-topic with that nonsense please
Yay
this is lore discussion
god dang it kometak is idle I think
shhh
theres this guy posting cringe in lore discussion
thanks mate
lore is cool
what is she eating though
lore
anyways
Explain now
Now that we dont have to view meep city cringe
its possible
that the guest was somehow
summoned from the rituals
that the forest protectors did
yes
Explain
other people know about the thing
in the neighbors notebook
nicky mentions about it being gossip
aaron tries to impress a girl and fails miserably (gone wrong)
maybe
I need to leave
ok
adios
bye
I actually have a theory real fast
I think the guest took over ted shortly after his family died. the guest "Takes stuff away" and he carefully caused events to trigger mya and diane to die and theodores brain would be vunerable and thus giving the guest a chance to wiggle its way into his brain
and take over his body
Meh
I’d like to believe Guest tried to get in ever since bad stuff happened to Theodore
This literally confuses me. Nicky knows about guest, MITH and museum, which are from HN2
And now the thing is back
Ye, Raven Brooks had a lot of urban legends
Nah
I think guest and thing are different
Thing doesn't exist irl
It just represents fears
Nicky is a child in HN2
We could assume that some memories are from when he escaped
And ?
Yes
He could've known about guest and museum
He probably saw MitH once or twice
Guest is a well known urban legend and museum is a location
Can be
But wdk
As neighbor moved after Nicky escaped
I download this
wa
this is #lore-discussion here, not #secret-neighbor or #off-topic
Does anyone know everyone that is in the ||forest protector society||
Norman Darby, Gordon cleave, mayor tavish who is no longer mayor, Harold (insert last name)
if there are any more feel free to ping me
yeah
wait thats real?
Yes
can you tell me more about that please?
Content expansion
wait thats out?
Welp
For some
time to raid steam
But only for some region
U know its only on mobile
the land of the free
GASP
god dang it tinybuild
is there plans for it to be on steam?
it's off topic here
will move kometak
No its #hello-neighbor
here is #lore-discussion
zane lets move to HN before we get in trouble
Yes me know
U talking like we could get banned for that xD
or do u
dun dun DUNN
Time looping
yes
Zane can we move to the #hello-neighbor thingy ma bob so we can discuss the DLC
how come?
oh no
oh well
Sure
meet ya there
u wont
I blocked the door to hn chat
Yikes
i'll let u guys talk about the Dlc
Wait so if the guest looks the same before he ||possibly killed mr peterson, why does his clothes look the same as theodores||
He never killed him.
He possessed him.
he probably didnt do either
Yes but why the same clothes
even before he possessed him
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Norman Darby isnt one
Then what did he actually do?
Prob guest has some sort of connection to neighbor
His place has a lot of stuff belonging to neighbor
Really?
That cutscene with the thing conferms my theory on it being a representation of the neighbor and the basement because you see it in the basement and straight after nicky wakes up in panic because he’s scared of it and that olso means it’s just in his mind
What cutscene
It is the representation of the neighbor, to Nicky
It is the representation of fears
And Nicky's fear is the neighbor
Wait so is Ted dead?
Just the guest possessing his body
Or is there a way to free him
I dont think so
The ending of alpha 1.5 implies that he is still there, deep down there
Ig
Then how will the people who don’t read the books understand hn 2
Idk
Alphas arent canon

scammer
Steam and Alex say they give clues to full game

This chat is pretty interesting

Trusting Alex LOL
I'm trusting steam
Still applies
you've reached a point where you've fooled yourself, don't trust Alex, remember HGA2, the stream and all
Did I say I trusted him
what did alex say about hga2
Yes
And at the end of that video it said unlocked new outfit for secret neighbor what outfit is that?
I have a feeling it’s og neighbor
The real reason why Aaron has bad luck
what the heck
oh no
wat
Lore
Clyde the bot came and said that I was explicit
Hey it's me
hey mom I'm on tv!
That's me
Uh oh
thing is
it does not look or sound like nikita
i know what nikita looked like back then bc instagram but i dont know what he sounded like
ive seen that vid too
doesnt seem like him
also
the accent
not russian
so
i dont rly believe it
why is that a link only video lol
what
☹️
no, this means that they werent given time to prepare their answers
sometimes with interviewers they give the person they are interviewing the questions beforehand so they can prepare answers
I just noticed, the cellar door doesn't exist in HN2
because it hasn't been added yet
at this stage, it's considered as spam
You should’ve seen him asking for the mansion in SN.
hEy gUYs DiD yOu kNoW tHerE Is nO ceLLaR iN hN 2?!?!
What mansion
Oh
it's uh, probably not modeled yet. That stream build was super old so they probably didn't finish
what
Tiny Crow talking about the cellar being missing
Can u like not
What
What the muffin is a cellar?
its a giant muffin
Really?
Seriously?
yes
you predicted it
....

Are you kidding? Right?
hold on
lemme find a picture of a cellar
...
Ok
Cellar 👇
Since I am the only sensible one around here, this is a cellar.
way to ruin a joke
Thanks 
Np
kometak purged
No swear words, I know.
So
okay so
heres an example
Regina
sees stuff
in the nest
that she couldnt have seen in the truck area
such as the neighbors chair
and the nest is a "dream"
It is dream
yes but
theres clearly something supernatraul
(10 out of 10 spelling you idiot)
regina couldnt have possibly known about the armchair
I also think myas doll was in there too
It was there
regina wouldnt know about any of that
thus meaning
that something put that in her dream
that something being our favorite humanoid crow thing
I think the guest assumes ted's face
Which is likely impossible
Cuz in Alpha 1.5 guest is in neighbor's body
yeah
I still think either that guest is an entity who possesses ppl or guest is neighbors bad side
yeah
Ppl say that she saw those in the truck. So idk
I might go over that scene again
if she didnt then the guest might be able to manipulate peoples dreams as well
idk
also how did she even get knocked anyways?
Prob passed out
One question, what happened to Ike G.?
Murdered
By?
Goose? You mean crow?
Dude, I can take jokes, but barely in english, sorry if I look stupid.
Maybe he is alive.
I want to think he lived
Aaron is living
Cuz according to Alex, he is the one who burns down the house
Wdk when he burnt the house
Did Alex directly say “Aaron burned down the house.”
Did he say those exact words?
Did Nikita say that?
But Carrie-Anne Moss is confirmed.
And in stage 3, Aaron is literally fire
What
What is HS?
hey guys, what's the difference between hello neighbor 2 actual alpha and hello guest ?
but it's the same game or ?
Yes but no.
humm
i just tried hello guest on microsoft store
but it's not the same as hello neighbor 2 alpha v1.5
They're the same game
Yes and yes
#hello-neighbor
Not no
Ok.
Hello Guest is the pre Alpha for hello neighbor 2
Hide and Seek
Huummmm.
Hide & Seek
Carly Anne West
Not Carrie Anne Moss
hey, is the scout in SN mya ? i know that she is red haired in HS but in the book she isnt...
weird since mya is missing in SN timeline tho
scout isn't mya sorry
what
She is still red haired in the books
How in the world can scout be Mya?
Why would she break into her own house?
Wait
how would she break into her own house
She is literally Ded
so, you havent played hide and seek?
btw what is that in the animation ?
seems like smth magic related to crows or smth
its a device which gives luck to the user
Mr.peterson have it on him but doesn't seem to work for him xD
oh
nah
i played HN 2 v1.5 but i don't really know how to relate quentin, the guest and the neighbor
i just know the guest like to kidnap people
im still at the first book
tho
I'll tell you how to relate
guest is the neighbor
Quentin is just a random journalist who breaks into everyones house
beatrix is the same so ?
a rdm journalist
?
quentin seems pretty close to neighbor in term of apparence
but he isnt related to neighbor in any way tho
oh guess he won't have candies tho
100%
Bro the neighbors son is locked up in the basement
and?
So?
Who cares?
Let's pour gas in the basement
and redo stage 3 with Aaron but this time in real life!
Lol
Lucy is **dead **scout isn't

🔫 
yes
you should
or inventor

She’s a redhead/ginger in the books
yes
Aarons sis
it's Mya too
Sussy....m
?
Maybe she didn't die
Maybe SHE is the one in the basement. Recovering from the fall
Oh
he locked him up to keep him safe
Yeah really lol
Yes I agree
Ye
Book 3 confirms her death.
just read all 7 books
7?!
I've been gone that long!?
I have the 1st 2
there's a prequal
I read them
2 spin offs
Very odd
and a sequal
Ok
Warning:You’ll have a brain aneurysm.
yes
What is HS
Ok
Where do you even buy the books?
Are they canon?
Ok, so only amazon.
I don't have amazon...
They are digital in places also
Huh...
Forgot to say "thanks".
So Lucy came back from the ded to help her friends then
NO
Aaron is locked up in the basement in SN
How and why should he break into his own house
I can't
all 3
act 3 takes place in 2017 according to Nikita
if you do math, acts 1 and 2 supposed to take place in 1998
how come the books are in a different year
idk
Different Timelines
wqe can take the book and the game lore as the same
we
i do not think we can take the book lore and the game lore as the same
because it is in different time lines or different time stamps
what about the game hide and seek it is simple right
wait the siblings were normal until their mother died and killed his sister and now regrets it
right ?
act 3 takes place when god just finished creating earth
Aaron and Mya have had trouble around Raven Brooks before diane died
“Luck device fragments hidden in keys, Gordon Cleave, Mysterious weather station, A mythical forest protector society, Kids going missing left and right!? What are you talking about man, we gotta go find out what 14:14 means!?”
Lol
"It's a bible verse!!"
Yes
@tribal talon I like your pfp
no
alright so, vermin forced me to play the heckin' alpha.
and for the life of me, what was the sodding cutscene.
who the fugg is the guest.
and why is mr peterson in the sodding door.
Sodding
i can't say the fugg word accordinvg to vermin so i'm substituting
please don't bully me.
i'm being suppressed.
whats a sodding key?
Answer the question lore man
Your mom.
Mr Peterson confirmed
Lol
guys. I made a discovery
Book 4 page 99:
The last -the very dead last- thing i want to do is talk about Germany
"Anyway, the Crow People", I say
Aaron is a discord user confirmed
no.
chillaxium is Aaron
hi
man, who let the spam bot in here
Nice
A
i have a theory, people think that stage 3 was a dream right? could it have been reality? i mean aparently crow men in hoodies that jump around using fire extinguishers are realality. or could hello neighbor 2 be a "dream" as well? i mean it could have been the neighbors dream. in the halloween update you see 3 kids, 1 a crow (who could have been mr peterson,) and then we have a boy and a girl, (aaron and mya,) and the "Crow man" kidnappes them. signifying the fact he kept them very sheltered, especcially aaron after mya died in the books
but it could also be reality, bcs the crow kidnaps all of them and you see peterson traped in the door once u get the candy, thats signifying he is traped, so maybe in alpha 2 you will get to see aaron and mya
and, what if the person youre playing as in the game is in fact nickey all grown up, more than in alpha 4
that explains how he knows the neighbor and where he lives
am i right?
Mya is dead.
no such thing as a dream in HN
but it could be a kind of representation of her
I mean
ikr
but is it thoooooo
giant neighbor with a house on his back? giant ass house? the mini games to get past stage 3
a crow guy?
i mean
According to Nikita
if that doesnt scream dream idk what is
Act 3 is “Self Therapy”
yeah
He is very real
And you could literally make the costume in real life

then why is peterson traped behind the door when you never see the bird
guest takes over neighbor's body
in both GN2 and Book 7 he wears the costume
neighbor's persona has been locked up
And GN2 shows ||Ted with the costume on||
do you know when HN2 takes place?
Quentin isn’t Nicky
you are absolutely wrong
HN2 takes place in the late 90’s
i would think people would realise when HN 2 takes place just by watching the E3 2021 Trailer
AKA after Act 2
but they dont
sad
majority of the ppl think HN2 is after act 3
because 2
sequel
exactly
its not like "prequel sequels" exist
Yoshi’s Island/Super Mario World 2 is a sequel
or... "midquel sequels i guess"
the kon guy will never come back
probably
im baaack
anyways did you read what we said
kon: no
most of it
i bet they are gonna try to disprove what Nikita said
the creator says nothing in HN was a dream
act 3 was a self therapy
not a dream
HN 2 is a sequel to Act 2
yes
Quentin is not Nicky
HN2 is set right after act 2
idk why but everyone looks exactly the same
what
hes right
Quentin looks nothing like nicky tho
same style
yeah
but like they dont look alike
add a mustache and glasses
not really
also how can Quentin be Nicky
proof?
exaclty
nah just a thought
HN2 is right after act 2
meaning, Nicky is a kid
hmmmm
Im pretty sure that everything in HN2 is going to be reality
cuz most of it seems serious
cool
Plus the game is supposed to be seamless
do any of u have ur own theorys?
ye
Not really
tbf, theres not really much to theorize
cuz we kinda know whats the story of HN2
the serious things I said were
Cops swarming the neighbor's house
neighbor being wanted and missing at the same time
neighbor jumping from house to house in order to hide from cops
bunch of ppl missing
realistic artstyle
still looks kinda cartoony
New topic
I mean, why does that have to do with the lore, it's just photo-realism in the part of the graphics, the artstyle isn't what you're talking about
No.
that random tree?
It has tons of lore
that grass blade?
crucial to HN
Guys ik why the goose blows up Mayak in HGP
his clown drawing when he was 5 was so cringey he covered the whole building with bombs to destroy it
little does he know Mya took it home years ago
Oh
hey guys in the book nicki sneak outside from his window right
what he climbs each time to get back in ?
A tree if I remember correctly
in the books he uses a trellis
oh yes that's the word
ty
since im not english i was in trouble understanding the word xD
glad i could help
^^
ahh yes
the goose
the true villain the whole time
xd
Lol
Peterson
hes not
ik why you would get confused
Thanks
especially with the Artstyle
Good
is the guest like a spirit that possessed the neighbor, or is it a split personality?
literally HOW
how and why should he break into his own house?
and its pretty much confirmed that HN2 is right after act 2
You see
HN2's name is HN2
- everything looks abandoned and very old
At least on the Alphas
who knows
but its one of the two
ok
Same
he didn't know.... your acting like he MUST know
Will HN2 be in acts? like 1, 2, 3 and final one?
Or just the open world like they said?
idk
devs always say HN2 is not going to have acts
we will just have to wait for full game and see how it turns out
Ladies and gentlemen. We got him
Also guys, in book 4, Mya mentions Trinity is almost 12 year old... Meaning she is 11 in the book....
o
Meaning aaron and enzo are younger....
oh
Y'all know what that means, right...?
no
Umm guys...
I was reading book 4 at the school front yard under a tree during lunch
And when i reached the part where Ike gets murdered (cus i read the chapters in chronological order), a crow just landed a few feets beside me
youre next
proceeds to find a bloody book at the school
Run.
Oh no
Guest??? Is that you????!!!!!???
Oh no!!!!!!
Taht is not good!!!!!!
I am of laerge freight!!!!!!!
guest vibe
4th bot msg.
wait i am new pls explain the hello neighbor lore from the begenning
wow my bro wasnt joking this is a dead chat
this usually isnt
its...
it's usually not
complicated
it's just since a lot of people aren't online right now
considering you tried to talk at 5 in the morning (at least for my timezone) I can understand why this chat is "dead"
Its way too long to explain in one textbox
@fathom pulsar ^^
ok so basically
the neighbor was born in the town of raven brooks, and his parents were meteorologists, but they did some shady stuff
Books are canon.
and they were being funded by the Golden Apple Corporation
but for some unknown reason, the tavishes (heads of the Golden Apple Corporation) cut their funding
ok im back
so anyways, because their funding was cut, they burned down the golden apple factory
and when the police investigated
they heavily suspected that it might have been the parents of mr peterson (that is his cannon name)
and because of that, everyone stayed away from them, and thought of them as outcasts
and eventually, mr peterson left raven brooks in order to pursue his career of engineering in other countries
he built many rollercoasters, but sometimes, the technology would fail, and there would be accidents
for example, the accident at bosco bay
from the book, The secrets of bosco bay
its a hello neighbor graphic novel
and the most infamous accident, Fernweh Welt
where a guy was trapped in a waterslide and died
and because of Fernweh Welt, people began to follow mr peterson and his family, trying to hold him accountable
so they went back to raven brooks
and in raven brooks, Aaron and Mya went to school (mr peterson's kids)
and in that school, they met enzo, trinity, maritza, and lucy
major characters plotwise
@fathom pulsar
i will continue in like, 30 mins
so u were saying
i find it very interesting
small details from i picture frame to the background
a*
thsts just the beginning
ok
let me know if you want more
Tavish
its a candy making company
so what do they have with mr petersons parents
and why did they fund them
did they have an affair
its not important
what dpod u mean
yeah thats probably what happened in this kids franchise


im sure
maybe mr petersons is insane or mentelly unstable
he probably is
what about his parents
he did loose his wife and his daughter
did thay treat him right
poor man
and he basically saw his son's slow descent into madness
golden apple hired the neighbor, who was a world renowned engineer, to make them an amusement park
and thats the park you see in SN, HE and HN2
and what is golden apple exactly doing
nothing
you mean what is he doing now?

yes
ok so let me get this staraight
the petersons were a family who were meterologists study os comments and weather
and the golden apple funded them because....
i do not know
no
golden apple arent really important yknow
the thing they did is, they hirred the neighbor to build an amusement park
i still do not belive they are not important

what did they do before
they hired neighbor
the most important thing golden apple did was hire peterson to build an amusement park
ok
to build an amusement park
neighbor was a world renowned engineer
ok
have you played HN2?
wait so your telling me that all this time.... neighbor was engineer gaming?
so are mr petersons father and mother not important in the story
they kinda are
just answer
they built a shit building




