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same
The baker probably puts some artificial stuff in her food to make it taste better
yeah
the farmer clearly uses drugs for something
probably to make his crops bigger
I wonder what are Ted's intentions in HN2
It made me think of those competitions to grow the largest vegetable.. maybe that could be a thing and he's cheating?
Same
Taxidermist hides stuff in attic
Mayor hides stuff in his study
That's all we know about the new characters
where did you hear that?
^
Leaked desc
alright
From where though?
Leaked
I'm not saying I don't believe you I'm just curious
send us the link
Yes please
if you have it
oh
Ah okay
I'm asking in the other server
isnt there more people that go missing asides from nicky, Aaron and mya?
Aaron, Mya, Nicky and Ted are the known missing ppl
Trick or treaters are implied to be missing
Or maybe those won't be canon in the full game
As there are missing posters of them in gray manor
id say the crow kid is canon
I'd say all 3 of em are canon
agreed
As we see missing posters of em in AI trailer and devlog
We dont know
it could be the mayor
Nah
I just want to know what Peterson's motives are
Why he's taking people hostage and why he's stalking us at night
a new comic comes out august 2nd I think
Oh nevermind then lol
Ye
It takes place during the storm
I get vibes that alpha 2 is coming on halloween
Me too
I don't think we're getting alpha 2.
as a map maker on sn I wanted to do the contest
and it said stuff about
halloween decorations
which is a bit weird
Guys
since its july
We're already over halfway through this year and with HN2 scheduled for this year with no release date still makes me think they're in beta stages
Yeah?
yes
Omgg yess
Hello Neighbor 2 is the sequel to the smash hit Hello Neighbor, where you sneak into your neighbor's house and figure out what he's hiding in the basement. In part 2 we have gone even further, and as a journalist, you investigate murders and mysterious disappearances in the seemingly quiet town of Raven Brooks.
Imagine that the entire town with all the houses and AI-driven inhabitants is your playground. Oh, and there's something off about those inhabitants, but you can't quite put your finger on it, so you think smart, plan your ingress, and look for clues behind the shut curtains of a suburban dystopia.
To start playing Hello Neighbor 2 you need to walk down the streets of Raven Brooks sandbox world and watch the Al characters' life, look through the windows to find clues. It feels like an investigative journalist simulator, huh? What's in the attic of a local taxidermist? Why does this gentleman with a moustache go down to the amusement park every night? Which secrets does the mayor's study hold? These are just a small part of the questions you might ask yourself.
The best tactical move, however, is to sneak around, discover the ways to outsmart NPCs to learn their secrets and get a real scoop that will uncover the big mystery hidden in Raven Brooks. The twist is that every character in Hello Neighbor 2 is powered by a neural network Al, learning from the players, doing everything in their power to protect their gated community and its secrets.
OOOP Okay time to read 👀
Hmmm
Oooh I can't wait!
I am curious to know who the "gentle man with a mustache" is
its Mr Peterson
Really
pretty sure
He doesn't look gentle
I'm honestly not a horror game type so I don't like being chased lmao. I think I'd spend my time people watching more than anything.
unless they are trying to cover up someone else
I think its Ted
Hey guys, do you want to hear something funny I thought about?
As both in the books and AS he always visits the GAAP at nights
yeah
I kinda wonder if the clown is a different person
that just looks alot like ted
We get a back story for him in book 6
So since the AI knows the location of items now, I think it'd be funny to just sneak into their houses, take their items and move them to the other side of the room. I bet it'd be funny to watch them fumble around as they try to find items they need.
Clown?
Clown neighbor
the clown is a class from SN
It's just neighbor in a clown suit
Ohh right
It isnt a different person
Because he’s a clown 
even on ones such as the scare crow and mime
SN is just them planning to sneak into the house, it never actually happens
Your mother
Ted wears clown suit for Mya's tea partys
?
It’s obvious
The ending for the rocket event.
trinity nor enzo or martiza live near friendly court
Hhhh I don't play sn so I've no idea what you're talking about, sorry lmao
and that isnt nicky's house either
That is Nickys house
The woman who talks to you during the rocket event’s ending is most likely your mom.
This isn’t supposed a be your mom joke.
I am sure
it also looks like its next door to nicky's
That doesn't look like Nicky's house
yeah
Here's Nicky's house from HN
Here's "Nicky's House" from SN
by the way I just screenshotted them off YouTube 💀
yeah
They bare a resemblance but they're not the same house
yeah
it probably belongs to bagger inventor or scout
I also think scout is actually missing
Isn't nicky's house
we were doing a comparison
The neighbors house isn't in front of our in SN
discussing that same topic
🤷♂️
But she isnt
theres a missing poster in the back
and yes I know its one of the alpha kids
but wouldnt they have removed it by now?
Alpha kid represents Nicky
they did?
he website
yes, that's brave
yes, that's new art
I cant play HE because I dont have stadia
like most of peoples here
yeah
didn't they said in devlog that young boy and mr peterson are missing?
Nicky hasnt escaped yet
unless people in Raven Brooks are so lazy they dont take down missing posters
nah, devs obviously hinted on that Nicky is still missing
that's just light hint from them, like to move our theories
but ofc, everyone here started to make advanced theories like this
mega advanced
but actually everything very easy
he's still missing. that's it
dude
you do realize I know that yes?
I meant that as a joke lol
i'm not saying that to you
oh
to that dudes who will read this


I believe this game will both take place during and before reset day
first act is when nicky is still missing
as peterson still lives at the act 1 house
maybe now, with that part of HN2 (aka alpha 2, as we all think) they will explain how Neighbor's car is ok in act 1, but broken in act 2
like maybe actually something happened between act 1 and 2
yeah
I believe we will discover who caused reset day though
okay
we will ignore everything from
alpha 1.5 and below
asides from charaters
i dunno man, lets wait for full release
they definitely made alphas for a reason
and the fact that hga1 is damn good
they like just took part from their full game and made alpha from it
yeah
I believe there's a group of people researching the golden apple amusment park and Mr peterson
and Raven Brooks in general
yeah ok maybe alpha 1 is... not very canon
I wont say this is canon as alpha 1.5 isnt canon but
two man in hats
and one guy pretending to be the neighbor
actually just 1 man in hat
and its debatable on if fake neighbor is also the man in hat
uh
what happened to alex?
Does anyone actually know what the role of the man in the hat is?
Nope
Ah
also
?
did alex leave the server?
Alex? Sorry I only joined today, I'm not sure who you're talking about to be honest
the CEO of tinybuild
welp
rip
since there's no CEO
Oop
We can make up HN fanfictions and call them canon >:DDD
That's a joke by the way please don't kill me
why did i even check this chat , i always lose brain cells when i am here
its because he is offline ...
I mean the server member list
its because he is offline
Oh whoops forgot about that thing lmao
Wait we're getting off topic from the channel
we are
#off-topic <---- maybe we should go here then !
Reece friend me
I friended ya
No clue
Maybe he's the guy on the left of this painting. I mean, obviously the design is very different but maybe this is who he is supposed to be nonetheless
the guy on the left is likely to be the player
also, did u know this was a reference to the bible?
Yeah
I think it was smth about the "kiss of judas"
But the player looks different than that
Yeah HN was very religious back in it's early days and liked to deal alot with the Bible and the devil and such
Yup. Made an entire plot about it and the only way to figure out the lore is to have read the Bible
Thats why i dropped HN for a while until HN H&S
Damn really?
yup
Geez
the lore looked stupid, but i then decided to check their prequel and OH GOD its better
HN HS is so freaking good
In all honesty I feel like it could've been executed a little better but the storyline is amazing
It's so simple but packs so much
the plot twist is great
but it kind of... makes things a bit too easy
to solve the lore
like it gave away a lot of stuff
The bad thing about HN HS is if you played the first game you pretty much already know what happens
For DIane, yes
It just gives some more details
Yeah
but i did not expected Mya to die so tragically
Neither
Some people thought she was playing on rollercoaster tracks or something
Yeah
Because of one of the death flashback things
It just kind of baffles me how it was presented
Like, I don't know why they chose rollercoasters and different levels to showcase the backstory instead of actual cutscenes and stuff. It would've been a much bigger and better game with the full story but I mean.. eh
I think they had a budget cut or something because I remember hearing something about a scrapped supermarket level due to budget
Oh maybe
Or fear hospital
the one with the basketball
But that one's lesser known
i might've seen it before but not remember well
what was it again?
I'm not sure exactly what it is but all I know is that if you beat it you got an ability that made the flashlight useless
It basically made you admit a light around you
Probably because Act 1 and 2 were made 3 months before the game’s release date.
I liked the death minigames
yeah
They didn't just flat out tell us what happened, they sort of just left hints
Ah okay
Diane death was kinda obvious, but the one with Mya being pushed and the one where she gets buried was confusing AF
3 months before release
I don't even know anymore it's midnight and I'm just agreeing with everyone on this so
if you say anything to me right now I'll just accept it lol
Guest is Aaron
😳
He wanted revenge on his father
Diane is Quentin
woah
Mya is the car
That's deep
Beatrix missing Eye is MAYAk
lmfaoooo
Something I've always wondered is if the end achievement was "like father like son" does that mean for some time the father son storyline was somehow canon in the first game?
It's obviously not anymore
But was it?
got scrapped
the crowbar from HN1 resembles gordon freemans
changed with No More Fear
It’s a mistake
there are 3 planks of wood in act 2
They forgot to change it for the Xbox version
Ah
4 planks*
Omg a whole extra plank
Hello Neighbor 3 confirmed.
Hey guys, I saw a post which was basically a screenshot of HN1A1 with the classroom board with the answers to the math questions and people were like: "The answer is 21, not 3 u dumass
hello neighbor 2 will release at E3 2021 real 😱🤯 (real)
The storyline for HN3 is where Nicky wakes up after having a nightmare about the neighbour and starts moving back into his old house when he uh- idk
I wanted to say something funny but I got nothin
Act 3
lol just act 3 again
HN 4 is about Neighbor being born
Pay $60 for act 3!! :d
there are 3 chapters called acts in hello neighbor
3 acts can be called episodes
episode 1
episode 2
episode 3
half life 3 confirmed
Omg they're adding 2 new versions of episode on the app store 😱😱😱
if you don't know what I'm talking about there's this cringey roleplay game on mobile called "episode" :3
It's like the Sims 4 but not
:D
Interesting
HN5 is about Theodore doing the despacito, causing Nicky do shoot Aaron while Mya starts her quest to redeem her sins with the power of Jesus.

lets go to off topic
Nicky signs up for a jazz club and learns to play Despacito on the piano. He then buys his own electric keyboard so he can make Despacito 2
#off-topic or just talk about the actual lore lmao
we been gettin sidetracked a lil 
yeah
👄 
wait
there is one guy in eerie guest with the letter g
and alex has the letter a
tiny build has the letter B
mike has e
g a b e n
quentin is gordon freeman confirmed
Quentin is Gordon Ramsay
omg no, the man in the hat is. In HN2 alpha you see him on the cable cars, that's because he's looking for the lamb sauce
Cardi B???
Wait no
FRICK nevermind sorry I'm tired I thought it said cardi B lmao
Yay
Wait I'm gonna go to sleep actually
Night good
cya
fyi
everytime we get sidetracked lets please move to off topic
so we dont get in trouble
^^^
There is more missing kids asides from nicky Aaron and mya
its on the news paper in the HE intro
Those may be the nog simming kids
And the last one looked a lot like Aaron so maybe it's just them and Aaron on the newspaper
yeah id say the first kid is Aaron
Most likely
hopefully someone goes through the game files so we can get a better look at them
if only it wasnt a stadia exclusive we could go in files
He has
Or else, it should have been the cops who should have saved him
Sry pal, there arent gonna be acts in HN2.
He didnt
He even gave a leak for HN2 day before yesterday
sure
They chose roller coasters because of the neighbor
And also they didn't have models for Aaron/Mya at the time
Its an old newspaper
I know hello neighbor is really old not that old but i think this is just the beginning of the story 😉
Why didn't Nicky's parents call the police when he was in act two for several days?
Because, as imbir said, their only job is to taste test doughnuts?
They did
They did call police after act 2
After? Why not call the cops when Nicky is missing?
They didnt know it was Ted who kidnapped Nicky
Nicky's parents didnt know it was Ted who kidnapped him
They only came to know after he escaped
Didn't they notice that their neighbor put 5 meter wooden walls around his house?
He is literally across the road
He didnt build wooden walls
Act 2 is a distorted memeory
Kinda sus
Fences and extensions werent real
Wait what?
Nikita literally said this in the second QNA
Why is literally no one watching these QNAs
And its even kinda obvious
The house doesnt have fences in HN2
And the puzzles in Act 2 are very unrealistic
Act 1 is real
Act 2 is a memory of a real event warped by trauma
Act 3 is self therapy
If the fences are not real why did Nicky just not run out?
This is getting weirder and weirder
Nicky's house does not even exist in hn2
It is absent
Have you seen the E3 trailer?
Nicky's house is literally sitting there
Act 2 was a MEMORY of a real event
I habe seen the E3, but i habe not seen Nicky's house
And in E3, in case you don't rember, it was the museum, not Mr. Petersons house
Look closely
At the beginning they showed Ted's house
Idk man, it was short and quick, I have not recognised anything lol
Nicky's house is literally across the street
The stile is soo different
Err
ERRR
Hmm
We know it is Nicky's house cuz we see it in 16 hour showcase
I thought that the guests house from Alfa 1.5 was teds house?
Ye
Alpha 1.5 was just test map
Then why is there no nickys house
.
Alpha 2 is the real map
That's why it has Nicky's house
Neighbor made a back up plan
He made Nicky look sus
No one believed him
That's why it isnt that much confirmed
That's what kind of advanced theories i talked about 
while everything clean and understandable as heck
Nicky is still in the basement, while Neighbor doing his things outside
I can agree with you
But...
If police arrived before Nicky's escape, they should have been the one who should have saved Nicky
Cuz, we know from SN, they did search the main basement
I aint saying I dont agree with you
Cuz I myself have thought that HN2 is before act 2 after watching AI trailer
I'm not really believing what happened in SN
That map in SN can be after act 2, why not
Neighbor is not missing there. He's wanted already.
You should, as it was made for giving clues for HN2
I can agree
Neighbor is missing in HN2
But wanted in SN
Could be
But, he is still missing in book 7
No, news of him ever being wanted
Who are those ppl?
HN has 7 books which expand upon the lore
Anyway
I am interested to see how they'll add Sorcerer Neighbor into the lore
9
If u count that graphic novel and this one notebook
Hmmmm
Guidebook is the best HN book
Cuz it is the only book canon to the games
You cant change my mind
"Wild growth of his deadly house"
My favorite line from the book
I call him theodore sometimes
In the books literally no one calls him Theodore
yeah I know
His wife just calls him Ted
News channel just calls him as Mr.Ted Peterson
At the point where we zoom in on neighbor's TV
Nicky's house is in AI trailer and E3 trailer too
perhaps they havent finished the model
wonder if we will be able to break into nicky's house lol
and troll his parents
Hmmm
actually I wonder if everyone from the books are going to be visitable
such as Enzo and trinity
I mean, its implied Imbir is Trinity's cat
yeah
I cant wait for alpha 2
or maybe the full game
I think they are gonna release the full game next
idk
hi i am turkish and i love these games 😊
well based on their vacancy they posted 2 days ago hn2 is in alpha stage
But tbf, it's kinda hard to make demos/alphas for an open world game
Wait where?
i posted this several times
several times in hn chat
(don't ask why it says alfa)
well then they still want to release alpha 2
for some reason
I mean
or maybe it's in alpha stage for them only
I would like them to release alpha 2
Cuz we never really got any game called alpha 2
First we waited for HG Alpha 2, but we got HN2 Alpha 1
(which technically is hga2)
Then we waited for HN2 Alpha 2, but we got HN2 Alpha 1.5
And are still waiting for Alpha 2
rip alpha 2 then
For HG it is
But for HN2 its isnt
As HG is now HN2 Pre Alpha
So
I would really like some game called HN2 Alpha 2
Bet August release
I bet October release
For Alpha 2? Then they got like 2 months left to release full game lol.
id say halloween for full
In the map contest they said they want to see halloween decorations
of course
Im probably overthinking
but its possible
naaah....
afk
as Jack said it's like less than 2 months till full release
and releasing "alpha" which is very early build of the game right before full release... that would be weird
but if it will be beta then ok
also
before I go afk
Id say all they gotta do is make the citizens AI
Raven Brooks and Mr Peterson's AI might already be done
obviously
they just polishing the game
yeah
so its possible we might get a beta here soon with like
the neighbor and maybe the guest
I need to go afk
Be back!
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Idk how they do it whether they playtest it often or not, but according to Alex, they are in the playtesting, I’m not sure how that works though.
Also this is lore discussion so cya
rdr2 took 1 year to polish it. that's how all games work. so basically whole hn2 is on polish stage now
so yeah, lore
Nicky still in the basement or something
yeah
Wayron Croobian names: Theodore the chickmunk, Quen Tong, Beat Rox, Nikita Ro, and Eng Zog.
Raven Brooks is Raven Holm thus meaning that theodore is actually a headcrab zombie
thus meaning that nicky roth is gordon freeman
and quentin is father grigori
half life 3 confirmed
lol
hmm
I wonder who those kids are in the HE newspaper
Neighbor
This is not a coincidence
No
It must be
Yes
alex is gaben
half life
Half lifE
Hello nEighbor
Hello neighbor 2 is half life 3
lets actually talk lore before we get in trouble lol
or move to off topic
demo or beta
probably beta
no, in wayron croobian, Peterson in Teaserpon
And Quentin's name is just Quentin
I wonder if someone else in Raven Brooks is snatching kids
the first kid is 100% Aaron
but who are the rest?
this is on the newspaper in hello engineer
in the intro
its wayron croobs
we dont know
HN2 alpha 2 is after act 2 right?
i think it is because in act 3 the house is destroyed
id say its both before after
probably after because the kid called the cops
you know the livestream
but its implied Nicky is still missing tho
thus causing Aaron to break out nicky
didn't think of that part :)
then later quentin comes back to raven brooks
nah
so alpha 2 is before
there arent gonna be acts in HN2
what if I show you proof
devs have said multiple times there arent gonna be acts in HN2
I know on the survey
perhaps it takes place just after the actual break in on secret neighbor
after they plan
they break in
and yes
I know about the rocket ending
Im talkin about when they actually break in
if they do
Not the survey
Nikita and Mike have said multiple times HN2 is not going to have acts
ah yeah
the SN kids?
for example
It’s a joke and ye lol
if you piss off everyone in raven brooks
ikr
😑
and get the quentin gets murdered ending
Im worried a tad bit
because when HN2 does come out
Im worried the AI is gonna learn too much and the game will get too hard
Nikita put it like this:
since it learns off of EVERYONE
There are going to be acts scattered throughout the open world map and you can do them in any order and any way you want. And one affects the other
yeah
They are making a devlog about the Ai and I think they said they will address this.
yeah
When and where did he say this 
I hope its also possible to turn of community AI
off*
because it will feel like I broke into peterson's or someone else's house before when its my first time
on that run
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That‘s not really how it will work actually. As it gets smarter it gives itself the opertunity to get creative to try and stop you differently each time you break in, and uses the Ai to beable to know when and how to address this. It won’t already know your gonna break in right away.
thx
I know it wont KNOW I broke in But I dont want him to think Im in this closet when Ive never been there when he does get suspisous
Yea idk exactly how it works with stuff like that lol
idk
Cus yes
Wdym
Also dev game choice lol
can you just wait till full release
we'll see how did this happened
No
have a taco while you ask for us to wait
muesum
I misspelled that
we DON'T know yet
He wanted more space
Also normal act 1 would be too small
In HN2
Someone else has it, not him
He just showed the picture
Awere edited the house to look like the act 1 house (No extension)
That top model isn't even real
But it is the act 1 house
And
And why did he want more space?
his house is still small even with a added area
he made the extent to hide his trump shrines
im reading book 3 for the 8th time and its still... painful
ok
"we know its you Nicky. U can drop the act cus its boring"
Also ditched Nicky for a club CROW
Book 3 gives everyone the IQ of a Tennis ball
like i want to strangle them so bad
glad im the only one who stood on Nicky's side the longuest
But you still left him
iq -1000
the book is depressing
well i have book 1-3
gonna read book 3 and see what you are talking about after grabbing book 1-2 by accident
oh ok
but wdym
like the deep lore
oh
and then the chat goes silent
chapter 7
ok
The whole book is deep, but this is the deepest one
ok
Also dont just jump straight there
its not that deep if u dont read the whole thing
the what now
the lamp

Are you talking about that scene with the missing posters?
and Peterson framing nicky?
chapter 7 is when he snaps
Hello Engineer
Somehow every plan Mr Peterson comes up with somehow works
normally every bad guy plans don't work but Mr Peterson doesn't care
Hi

lets talk about how Mr Peterson became insane cause you obviously don't care
He came insane due to the fact his daughter got killed same with his wife
can any1 help me to fix the voice chat it not work
How HMM?
And started being sus
in Secret Neighbor?
yes
you have headphones?
yes
voice chat always on
hm,
Wife was killed in a car Wreck and daughter was kill by son in hide and seek and wife was killed in hello neighbor secret scene
I’ve played the games just haven’t dogged in the lore much
And?
and you need to know it for hello neighbor to make sense
Their names are Diane and Mya
no cause he was insane before
he removed safety features from his amusement park rides and got kids killed
and his family was scared of him
have you read the aaron books
Peterson had mental problems long before his family died
its possible its a result off what happened to him when he was a kid
though its unknown
if anything happened
but its possible
I knew he had problems before his family died but i didn't know they were scared
puzzle master has important moments that I dont wanna spoil
...oh.. so Puzzle Master actually has important stuff in it?
why wouldnt it-
important charaters and such
Do you have Reset Day?
I just skipped puzzle master and started reading reset day
yes
Reset day is the most confusing
well yes
more questions then answers
but.. does anyone know why Mr Peterson's house has "Cursed" and "Omen" all over the wall?
Probably something quentin does
or a riot accorded after nicky escaped and called the cops
Get out
the town hated the Peterson's so I wouldn't be shocked if they did that
yeah
and they hated Mr Peterson more
Oh god
yeah and when they hear
wdym?
Poor Aaron
oh.. Aaron
id say they get pissed off
10
Possibly
20..
He did get out to break a window to let Nicky escape
do they do another riot
he helped Nicky ye
I feel like the whole town is gonna go on a car chase with Mr Peterson
yeah
trying to kill him
People were pissed off regarding the golden apple accident
and to hear news about Mr Peterson kidnapping someone would probably cause a riot
So HN GTA
or something ted did
wouldnt be the first time
ok so now Mr Peterson is on the run from basically the whole town and can't escape town now...
Well I mean people sorta left him alone after some time passed when the accident happened
which incident
Lucy Yi
Lucy
didnt people attack his family
WHAT
or at least hate them
people hated him
ok yes ik they hated.. phew
but I dont think actual riots sparked toward him directly
yeah no there werent riots
it did happen at the park
also isnt the curse thing from reset day
people set it on fire
that's the only riot
everything else was just people angry at the petersons
Now I'd say people did riot again once nicky escaped
and the police were called
due to the existing anger
and when people hear something about
"wait HE HURT SOMEONE ELSE?????" people would probably get to the point of protests
They would hate him more if they found out
yeah
no
I dont think Ted actually killed anyone
but they still get mad
he justs kidnaps and holds them
Yeah
he hasn't killed anyone on purpose
but why make them get held hostage
if the police find out he's done
but they won't because he'll somehow manage to hide them
true
you know
I wonder if Ike faked his own death somehow
I dont think Ted would kill him
or would he
He did.
we dont know
He’s now the crunchy parts of your peppermints
perhaps "quentin" is him coming back to raven brooks
No
well I mean
it does look like quentin is going to Raven Brooks
even though his van is from it
but he acts like he's never been there
can you forget the town map in a span of like
idk
nearly a decade?\
he probably got a new job in Raven Brooks so he picked up his work van and went to go investigate Mr Peterson's house
"Raven Brooks Mirror"
Rimmor
why would his employee place
unless it was from RB
give him a van from some forgotten little town
One day in 2023 someone is gonna find real Raven Brooks

