lore-discussion

[gray holly]

Have you guys seen the redesign for the hn2 mayor yet?

[ripe berry]

the...
whar

[opal steeple]

wh

[gray holly]

Hang on, lemme grab it

[ripe berry]

oh it's a trol

[opal steeple]

:trol:

[gray holly]

?

[ripe berry]

anyways back to spending hours trying to figure out which teasers are from Season 3

[opal steeple]

thats a guy from cloudy with a chance of meatballs...

[unkempt sleet]

it was obvious it was a troll from the first message Micheal😭

[strong sparrow]

This is a fox

[ripe berry]

(I am not the sharpest tool in the shed)

[shut hill]

erm so what do we think is from S3

[gray holly]

Can you quit slandering me, thanks

[unkempt sleet]

Sorry BaroonVonTootToot

My deepest apologies

[ripe berry]

the MineCraft brainrot has gotten to my head

[unkempt sleet]

No Squirrels

Okay hold on

[opal steeple]

same

[ripe berry]

Sorry guys
I fed the Squirrels

[opal steeple]

very stupid question, but are there any teasers that just stand out? like the location or vibe doesnt seem like it'd fit season 2

[ripe berry]

I love how we can't even tell if that's a Fox or a Squirrel (or as the MineCraft Brainrot is trying to convince me, a Wolf)

[ripe berry]

Season 2 doesn't have a vibe we go from this...

to Peterson's Stick Together

(and yes this is from Episode 7 it's pretty clear if you watch the clip of origin)

me when I was locked in a Basement for weeks

[opal steeple]

permanent brown eyes

he lost his green contacts...

[shut hill]

did we give up..

[ripe berry]

I guess

there's no easy way to identify if a Teaser's from Season 2 or not

[frigid pumice]

I feel like season2 is tmrw

Or if there is another meaning for Tm

[muted moon]

Isn't this a possum

[shell gull]

“Trademark” but that doesn’t make sense.

[shell gull]

He looks like his whole Personality flipped, he went from being annoying and obsessed on Peterson to being this chill frustrated person.

[gleaming dagger]

hard to tell
in each teaser he has a different type of behavior (it can be chalked up to trauma)

[muted moon]

his eye colour and personality both changed

[shell gull]

Mhm.

[shell gull]

Yeah, he’s probably really confused with what to think.

[muted moon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4n5GOWpRr8 does this mean anything lore-wise

[gleaming dagger]

i think it does, but how exactly is unclear (at least for now)

[muted moon]

It's referring to trademark

The soon™ joke

[silver vine]

https://tenor.com/view/intensifies-sooning-soontm-midsizedonkey7-nowhere-gif-12050318

[safe charm]

Last time he Said it was for Peterson voice reveal it only took 3-4 days

[silver vine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720318918165659779/1166013594199134358/20231021_121504.gif?ex=6548f1c8&is=65367cc8&hm=5bdcaa7273eef5467ae5e0804157bf6202919f9d5965d48589156beab49744b3&

[spark tulip]

oh, i didn't know he also said "Aaron and Mya"

[ripe berry]

well there he had complete control over when it drops

here he has to wait for another company to agree to air the show and a specific time to air it

[pale urchin]

Oh boy, here comes twitter/HNG users!

[wicked heath]

Honestly, It’s just peak insanity for me

[unkempt sleet]

Yea we know

[shut hill]

Well duhhh we can do that too

And we got that info right when it was posted

And all you need to look for is the tb icon underneath a comment

[winter mason]

Another lil detail I noticed is he now has dead eyes, which can be signs of trauma or depression

[gleaming dagger]

he definitely has trauma, but about depression: 50/50. AS will likely make it clear

[supple coral]

yall ever dove into reset day much

by far the most interesting lorewise

but i only really talk about it with like 2 people

i mean its 3 years old but im kinda goin back to it

we're talkin artificial earthquake devices here which is something HAARP developed

could also be related to Nikola Tesla's oscilators

its definitely a rare occurence, raven brooks is said to not be near any fault lines

intraplate earthquakes have a very small chance of happening but even then this seemed like a big one if they had to close off the town

[opal steeple]

its the only book i havent read so i dont know much about it

im considering reading it but at the same time, how useful could it be anymore with books being essentially non-canon now

[supple coral]

its still pretty useful if you just pretend the lore ends with reset day and raven brooks disaster

i mean its not like its actively not there, you can always pretend the books are their own canon

the most interesting anyways

reset day was never continued but that makes it fun to theorize whats really happening

[muted moon]

something useful is it helps with theorising about old hn2

[opal steeple]

oh hm

yeah i may read it

i consume anything hn related anyway so why not

[muted moon]

old hn2 was gonna kinda like continue on from reset day somehow

[opal steeple]

is there a digital version anywhere? i can pay for it but idk if there's an e-book or not

[opal steeple]

interesting

[muted moon]

reset day was kinda like a teaser for the old hn2 story

of course since old hn2 was scrapped we dont know what happens next

[shell gull]

We have clues and other things that give us a good idea on what it was.

[muted moon]

we dont know the majority though

such as what happens after reset day, and the majority of hn2 besides guest world and timeloops

[silver vine]

Guys

How did imbir end up in guest world

[ripe berry]

what

since when were they in Guest World

HN2 Alphas?

[silver vine]

Yeah

[astral agate]

He ate the forbidden cookie

[ripe berry]

in HN2 Alphas there's a literal pipe to another world iirc

[astral agate]

Fr?

Where?

[ripe berry]

in the files, not used in-game

but during that time period Guest World could be accessed by a pipe large enough to fit a car

[silver vine]

They? Imbir is singular tho

I mean, I am aware of what Ari said

[ripe berry]

according to tinyFox, Imbir has no gender

[silver vine]

Still

We should refer imbir as it

Not they

It doesn't make sense grammatically

[ripe berry]

pal I don't think HN cares about Grammar

"All your snow are belong to me"

[silver vine]

It's just weird to call a cat as they

That all I'll tell

[ripe berry]

anyways enough talking about the correct way to refer to a Genderless Cat

[ripe berry]

I think Imbir could fit in a "Pipe" large enough to fit a car

(probably actually a tunnel or smth)

don't question the logic of the HN2 Alphas
they literally had a Fake Mr. Peterson in the Attic in a cut ending

[manic dirge]

Alex referred to imbir as a he.

Also why is this even a debate. It’s a cat 😭

[ripe berry]

[ripe berry]

you know-

just realized they didn't actually leak the Traitor

the Inve could stand for Inventors Club

we just took it as "it must be Ivan because Inve is Invent"

[unkempt sleet]

woop

[stuck seal]

new to this server..

yippe!!

anyways shouldn’t type here

[supple coral]

is this really what we're discussing

[cold gull]

That's scaring

I peed

[stiff spire]

nickyyy

(evil laugh)

[cold gull]

(pees aggressively)

[stiff spire]

ok that's enough

[ripe berry]

anyways uh

anything else to talk about

[gleaming dagger]

we can return to the topic of discussing the possible traitor

[stuck seal]

I mean

the shadow man’s intentions still aren’t uncovered

[stuck seal]

so like that’s something to call about

cuase we don’t know if he’s a sub-ploy or he’s just the villain of s2

or the guest is maybe

[silver vine]

It's the representation of fear

[ripe berry]

I'd say Guest is Main Villian
Traitor is a secondary Antagonist

[silver vine]

So, Ivan isn't traitor?

[ripe berry]

it's still a possibility he is
he's just not the only option

[silver vine]

If Ivan isn't the traitor, my next suspect would be Delroy

[ripe berry]

anyways I'm hopping off for the night

[ripe berry]

yeah, it's def one of those two

[silver vine]

What if Enzo is revealed as the traitor

Like the SN trailer

[ripe berry]

coming back for one last thing
it can't be Enzo, Trinity, Nicky, or Maritza as they already have a spot on the Character Wheel

and it'd be weird for a character to have two spots and two different descriptions in both

anyways time to hop off for real
Cya!

[stiff spire]

cya

[ripe berry]

again I hate Manifestation
but I realized something
in old lore
the Guest there's only one thing that can't be explained with Manifestation
Looking at the Guest's Actual Powers that can't be explained as non-canon or imagination...
the Thing teleports
the Guest teleports
Thing can shapeshift (as shown in SN)
Guest can swap between Humanoid and Crow
Guest can Possess Ted because they are one and the same

only thing that can't be explained is whatever's going on with the Deal with Aaron

[unkempt sleet]

And the fact that why Guest is real and annoying the town while The Thing is not real and is just on Nicky

[safe charm]

I dont like manifestation it ruins the mysterious

Vibe to me

[unkempt sleet]

I like the manifestation if it didnt ruin the whole "Raven Brooks's Urban Legend" thing

[safe charm]

Yeah and Even back in 2020 he was an urban legend

[ripe berry]

same here
I try to think on both sides to prevent bias (hence the message I sent above)

[ripe berry]

yeah, even in 2020 he was Raven Brooks Folklore

but Urban Legends and Folk Lore have no boundry to how long ago they had to form to count

Folklore is just some part of culture that multiple people share belief in
and Urban Legends are just that but it involves spooky stuff like dead people or missing person cases

and wouldn't you know it there's not only dead people involved (Diane, Mya) but also potential missing persons cases (HE Missing Kids)

I hate Manifestation but there's not too much to go against it

[unkempt sleet]

I wonder why Diane is connected to this newspaper

[ripe berry]

Both worked in a School so that's smth

(yes I'd consider a University a School)

[unkempt sleet]

But she didnt work at the University, right?

[ripe berry]

ok fair enough

School Board Members don't directly impact the Universities

[shell gull]

Let me explain, The Guest obviously needed a way to get to Ted, so what better than to Manipulate his own Son, the Deal was kinda like this: “I help save your friends, You lead me to your Dad” Obviously both ways happened, until The Guest finished his end of the Deal before Betraying Aaron and dragging him as his First Victim.

[shell gull]

In turn he removed the one thing Ted cared about, so now Ted is easy seduce into what The Guest wants, it also means he can easily get Stronger now that his Emotions are more riled up.

[shell gull]

It doesn’t though.

[ripe berry]

I mean like whatever's going on with the Plushies

[shell gull]

It’s pretty simple.

It’s the same thing as the Walkie Talkies it’s just a Game way to switch Characters, him holding the Plushies is also to show off the Deal, Aaron couldn’t say no to the Deal, hence The Guest not letting him take the Aaron Plushie.

[shell gull]

He couldn’t say no because The Guest wouldn’t let him, and either way he wouldn’t say no since he wanted to save his Friends.

[ripe berry]

but then at the same time feathers circle the characters when switching
and then Aaron/Guest disappears after that until you switch back

[shell gull]

GN2 shows off something similar, we see a Connection between Regina and her Sister with Aaron and Ted, difference is Regina said No and fought back, while Aaron said Yes, both leading different Fates, one good one bad.

[shell gull]

Sure yeah, but take in the fact we’re talking about Guest as an E.O.M. We see similar effects happen around The Things in SN, it just further shows he’s an E.O.M. It may seem like The Guest possessed Aaron but not really, wouldn’t make sense with the ending and if that was the Case why didn’t he just do that with Regina.

Only time he had to Possess someone is when he HAD to, and we see with Ted it was a big struggle.

[ripe berry]

again Aaron/the Guest are GONE after the switch
with the Guest it makes sense, he's teleported before
but Aaron?
Not so much

I don't think humans can teleport in the HN Universe

[shell gull]

If he was Possessing Aaron I don’t think it would change much, only issues is why leave his Body then.

[ripe berry]

actually it appears like it may cause a issue
the Guest can logically possess Ted because they, in a way, are one and the same

[shell gull]

Yeah but then again each New Segment of HNVR R.S. Ends up at different Areas pretty quickly iirc.

[ripe berry]

but then Aaron is a completely different person from the Guest

due to the Feathers I'd say it's more obviously teleporting and not like how the RS get from one area to the next quickly

[shell gull]

They can’t have both Characters as Player Switches in the Same Spot so they just switch the Character, like I said R.S. Moves a ton around the House.

If they allowed that I think R.S. Would run into each other In-Game.

[ripe berry]

and Guest can't teleport other objects or else they'd just teleport Ted to them

[ripe berry]

and there at least they have somewhere to go in-universe to explain why you don't see them

with Aaron?
Not so much

[safe charm]

It makes him new

To the town

Even if hes an urban legend kinda because he got seen by a lot of People

It doesnt have the same feel to me

[ripe berry]

na, Nikita was talking in Old HN2

Guest forms August 1995

[safe charm]

Yes

[ripe berry]

Old HN2, based off the Alpha 1.5 Ending being labelled canon at one point, is October 1996

I don't think after a year you're new to town

[shell gull]

Like I’ve said, they didn’t have any Game reason of Aaron not being at the Same Spot, we see after The Guest catches Ted it cuts straight to Aaron at Nicky’s Locked Room.

[ripe berry]

or even if we use logic for the time-frames
August/September is the EARLIEST Month for old HN2 to occur in depending on how we stretch the 2 month thing

[silver vine]

Yam 3

[shell gull]

Like I said I’m not saying he didn’t Posses Aaron it just doesn’t make sense Logic Wise compared to the Rest of the Media and also would easily be a Gameplay Reason.

[ripe berry]

and if we Assume Book 3 ends the EARLIEST possible date in the Summer (when Book 3/HN1 Act 1 occurs)

even using Games only Timeline

[shell gull]

It could be very well true but I still think it’s a Gameplay Reason at one bit.

[strange lance]

Hello fellow neighbors

[ripe berry]

there's still 3-4 months at least before Old HN2

[shell gull]

Hello!

[ripe berry]

I don't like Manifestation, but it's better to at least try to think through every possibility

[shell gull]

That means he can’t be an Urban Legend? he still is one in Old Lore, he’s just more recent, Unique compared to the other Folklore, something that the Town now has to watch out for.

[silver vine]

Hi

Welcome to hell

[safe charm]

Yeah i gotta say im more intrested in new guest lore IF manifestation was correct in old which it 80 percent was

Or 90

[shell gull]

This in itself is a big Plot Hole if he was Possessed.

[shell gull]

Manifestation is way cooler to me.

[safe charm]

I prefer guest being an ancient creature curse entity more

[shell gull]

Ey you do you I don’t judge.

[ripe berry]

and as far as I can tell (with the exception of the Plushies) nothing in Old Lore seems to even remotely mess with the idea of the Manifestation Theory being true
and the Plushies create a plot hole no matter what you try to do if you take everything observable in the Game literally

[safe charm]

I do miss old guest personality though

But idk maybe it Will be sorta similar in new lore

[silver vine]

Idk bruh, to me, him being a much ancient entity is more cooler to me, but you do you

[shell gull]

It doesn’t though, it’s a Gameplay Reason, they can’t assign a Specific Button without having Visualisation or a Tool Tip, and so why would there be a Tool Tip at the end of the Game when you could just replace the Walkie Talkie Item with something Unique.

[unkempt sleet]

The Guest lore

[silver vine]

Peak

[shell gull]

That’s a cool animation, would be cool for an AS Origin thing.

[ripe berry]

everything about the Cult has alternate explanations
Why are they dressed as and refer to themselves as Ravens?
People are weird, the Bohemian Grove has a giant Owl Statue, does that mean they worship a Owl God?

What about the Luck Devices?
They're powered by the Crystals on the inside, not a Luck God
and even then, said Luck God doesn't HAVE to be the Guest

[wooden hollow]

You should add a texture to the wall

[silver vine]

Also, @shell gull you saw this bruh?

[shell gull]

Guest was actually an Owl this entire time…

[ripe berry]

Unlucky Coins are the one weird thing due to the Feathers seen when collecting them

[unkempt sleet]

what texture should i add

[safe charm]

Yeah i see no big reason for act 3 being retconned in new lore

[silver vine]

The Bohemian Grove and Raven Brooks cult have so many similarities

[wooden hollow]

Catacombs wall or like bricks or something

[shell gull]

My Answer: We don’t even know the Interpretation of it yet, AS isn’t at that point, so I say we wait and don’t go ahead.

[silver vine]

What if HN1 Act 3 is the AS interpretation

What if it's exactly the same

Absence of proof is not proof of absence

[shell gull]

Highly doubt it, look at HN1 Act 1 and Act 2, HNVR, HE, SN very different, why is this singular Act going to be the same as it is in Old Lore while everything else ain’t.

[silver vine]

Because that's the only thing which is actually real

[ripe berry]

this is the one thing that actually has any form of argument that the Guest is more powerful then a Manifestation (the only thing the Guest would do that wouldn't have proof of being able to be done by a Manifestation or common sense for a Manifestation to do)

[silver vine]

Taking place in real world

[ripe berry]

Act 1 was also real pal

[safe charm]

It was

Not anymore

[shell gull]

https://tenor.com/view/g4-g4tv-xplay-god-of-war-god-of-work-gif-26576916

[safe charm]

Well kinda

But now its a memory

[silver vine]

They can't retcon Act 3 intro cutscene as memory

Yeah

[safe charm]

It originally was supposed to be real but they changed it

[silver vine]

That thing is literally impossible to retcon

[safe charm]

Even book 3 retconned act 1 before AS did

[ripe berry]

watch them pull it off pal

[silver vine]

How and why should they retcon it

It's just Nicky entering town

[shell gull]

That’s why we say Interpretation can’t drag a Piece of Media, that’s like me saying “Well I’m guessing all of the stuff in the OG Ben 10 was just a Nightmare but that one Episode where he goes to the Future actually happened according to the Reboot”

[silver vine]

It what way can they retcon it

[safe charm]

Yeah the lore has changed a lot

Theres 3 eras

Of hn lore imo

[ripe berry]

didn't they literally retcon it in old lore so that Ted's House isn't burnt down

[safe charm]

Hn1-hide and seek era

Book era

AS era

[silver vine]

That retcon isn't valid anymore cuz of HN2

[unkempt sleet]

cuz of what

[silver vine]

Edited

[safe charm]

Hn3

[unkempt sleet]

[safe charm]

No way

[ripe berry]

but it shows they can and WILL retcon Act 3

[shell gull]

OR, just accept what has already been broadly Pointed out, this is a REBOOT, nothing is lining up the same as it did in the Original, sure something will be very Identical but its a Rehash of a New STORY.

[ripe berry]

again Act 1 was real
now it's not
what says Act 3 is safe when Alex plans to remake HN1

[silver vine]

Are you seriously comparing the Ben 10 reboot to HN?

[ripe berry]

no

they never mentioned Ben 10

[silver vine]

.

[ripe berry]

oh nvm

[shell gull]

It’s an example.

[silver vine]

You see, the difference is, previous Ben 10 shows are not canon to the reboot

[unkempt sleet]

the real lore

[shell gull]

It’s an example, Read it again but now Picture it with HN, same level as what the Topic is.

[safe charm]

In my opinion hn1 is canon but the current version isnt fully canon but the remake will be the defenitive version story wise for new lore

[silver vine]

In the HNAS case, the previous games are completely canon and have actual rational explanations to fit the other games

[shell gull]

Oh wow, but your saying OG HN is somewhat Connected to AS?

[silver vine]

It's not?

[shell gull]

So what was up wit this argument then????

[silver vine]

HN2 is the sequel to HN1

[shell gull]

You were talking about Act 3 connecting with HN2 even though HN2 is part of the Reboot, but now your agreeing it isn’t???

[silver vine]

That is my argument

[shell gull]

Doesn’t mean it’s the Same Lore.

[silver vine]

Oh come on

[safe charm]

Their Making a remake

[safe charm]

Anyways

[unkempt sleet]

"something that takes place after or as a result of an earlier event"

[safe charm]

Yeah the base events of hn1 is Canon

[silver vine]

I just fricking hate this old lore new lore division, it all looks the same to me 😭

[unkempt sleet]

If its not the same continuity it can be after or the result of an event

[shell gull]

My Argument: Just because it’s the Sequel doesn’t mean it’s connected anymore, they switched the Lore.

[silver vine]

By your logic

Technically

[shell gull]

I wonder what that Event was…

[silver vine]

HN1 and HNHS are separate lores

[shell gull]

You do realise though they have been acting like Old Lore never existed.

[silver vine]

Whose "they" bruh?

[shell gull]

Even Alex admits that HN2 is now tied in with AS.

[shell gull]

TB.

[unkempt sleet]

The devil

[silver vine]

Doesn't mean it's not canon to HN1?

[safe charm]

I just dont care About the continuity anymore they can do what they want with it lol

I just care about the details guest etc

[silver vine]

Neither do I

[silver vine]

But saying HN2 is not canon to HN1 is just absurd

[ripe berry]

it's not
because the Remake Alex has said he wants to make will replace it

[silver vine]

Oh great

[unkempt sleet]

That supposed remake is not even in production

[shell gull]

Because it ain’t, it literally cannot be, no matter how hard you try to tug it, New Lores a Reboot, whatever they say about Old Lore is just Interpreting the Lore for the Reboot, not hard to comprehend.

[safe charm]

It Will be

After hn2 is done

[silver vine]

https://tenor.com/view/dust-ashes-thanos-gone-avengers-endgame-gif-17205719

[unkempt sleet]

they aint making HN2's story according to a HN1 remake that doesnt ex

ist

[safe charm]

They have its story

Already AS just told us it

[unkempt sleet]

So a HN1 remake would tell the same story

[ripe berry]

(I'm joking lol)

[safe charm]

Problaby

[safe charm]

Tell that earlier

Hehe

Before a war starts

[unkempt sleet]

"probably" It's all just a speculation

[safe charm]

Yeah

[shell gull]

Due to the Patches now slowly continuing to push New Lore and also Rehashing a Reboot, in turn it’s now Continuing on the New Lore Continuity.

[ripe berry]

Discord was lagging like hell so the message took too long to send

[unkempt sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/8-rambley-souls-killing-markiplier-markiplier-indigo-park-indigo-park-rambley-rambley-the-racoon-gif-2511286866663083815

me when i pick up directly after the events of the original game

[safe charm]

Except its not directly after

[silver vine]

HN1 fits in fine tho? how am I trying so hard to tug it in

[safe charm]

Its problaby months or at least weeks

After

[ripe berry]

I meant to send the message not too long after the first message, saw that tinyCrow typed something so I made it a reply, then Discord lagged like hell

[unkempt sleet]

That's how it's in the AS continuity buddy

[silver vine]

LIES

False advertising!!!!

[safe charm]

Dissect this

Frame by frame

[shell gull]

Because it doesn’t fit, they have already stated interpretation for HN1 in the Reboot and a Remake.

[unkempt sleet]

It does fit in a games only timeline though

[shell gull]

100% agree with this Message.

[unkempt sleet]

That's why y'all are tweaking for no reason smh

Games Timeline, Books Timeline, AS timeline

[shell gull]

Anyways, I’m gonna go back to Testing Stealth in HN2 for a Suggestion.

[unkempt sleet]

they're all canon, different continiuties

simple

[shell gull]

👋

[safe charm]

https://tenor.com/view/plooshies-inevitable-lfp-gif-722956976336320393

Mayak on its way to explain everything

Noooo

Wrong gif

[unkempt sleet]

lmao

[safe charm]

Damnit

[ripe berry]

then again you label SN as canon when Alex's own wording directly calls it non-canon

[safe charm]

Anyways

New discussion

[ripe berry]

#hello-neighbor message

[unkempt sleet]

lets talk about how awesome games only timeline is

[safe charm]

Guest timeline better

Only guest

Info

[unkempt sleet]

just a bit above

lol

[ripe berry]

means a game can be partly canon but not entirely canon to the AS

[safe charm]

So what is your theories

On the guest

Atm

[ripe berry]

love how this means SN at one point wasn't canon

[safe charm]

Problaby

Anyways

[ripe berry]

also because he contradicts himself
the only explanation that lets both pieces of info work together is that they are partly canon but not entirely

[safe charm]

Michael

Were talking goose now!

[ripe berry]

HN1 is Partly canon to the AS
but it's not 100% canon

[ripe berry]

lmao SN is non-canon to old lore according to Alex

[unkempt sleet]

HN1 is canon to AS, but it's an adaaaaptation

🐦‍⬛

[ripe berry]

guessing this is what Sh1mp was trying to say earlier

[safe charm]

Also they really made Ted a creep in nicky trilogy like my god

[ripe berry]

Adaptations aren't 100% accurate to the original lore
Coraline's Movie is a Adapatation of the Book and you'll find tons of differences between the Movie and the Book
AS is a Adaptation of the HN1/HNHS/SN/HE/HN2/HNVR/HND/RBO(?) Story, but the details won't be 100% the same

(ok maybe including HN2 as being adapted in AS isn't the case since they're the same continuity but you get what I mean-)

[ripe berry]

Books and AS are both Adaptations of the Games Storyline, so details aren't 100% but still

[safe charm]

Can we talk something Else

So i asked a friend and apperantly he doesnt see mr Peterson as an insane evil dude and that hes just coming of as evil Trying to do what he needs to do

And he watched the AS lol

[ripe berry]

(dms)

anyways

[ripe berry]

no way he understands the lore

[safe charm]

Well hes not a good Guy Either lol

[ripe berry]

I think the correct term for what Ted is is "Anti-Hero"

[safe charm]

He might have started out as doing it for what he thinks is good

But hes become evil

I feel over time

What he did in the Books to nicky is plain out evil

[ripe berry]

or- no wait... what is the correct term for Ted...

[crude dew]

it was originally titled as a spinoff
should've stayed one

[supple coral]

pretty sure it still is a spinoff lol

[ripe berry]

Spinoff doesn't mean non-canon

[supple coral]

separate story from the mainline series in the same canon

pretty much why all the rescue squad games are spinoffs cause the main story of hn1 hs hn2 dont involve them

[uncut hedge]

i have a lore

neighbour is trans

[wicked heath]

Well…

[unique latch]

[silver vine]

He told that only the maps aren't canon

I mean, yeah why would they be

His house has a fricking rocket

[ripe berry]

still means Games don't have to be 100% canon
thus I guess there's a huge question mark in what parts of a game are/aren't canon

[supple coral]

lets talk about something interesting

whats canon or not is not interesting

[shut hill]

no

[tribal talon]

hey everyone

[stuck seal]

hold up, another thing

The guest can be seen with a knife with serval teasers (Even with Ivan in them)

So the guest is going around hunting down people

or well if I’m wrong then

Ivan seems to be terrified in the teasers by guest so

guess he was being hunted down

anyways

made a lil thing here

[tribal talon]

continue

[stuck seal]

Ivan also seems to be like

hiding from the guest in some teasers

[shut hill]

yea??

[stuck seal]

so, the guest may be hunting Ivan

or something

[shut hill]

Why would he want to go near him

[tribal talon]

fr

[shut hill]

The guest is hunting all of them

[stuck seal]

yeah duh

[shut hill]

Yea duhhh

[stuck seal]

seen from the teasers we’ve got

[safe charm]

Also the guest is defenitly not human thats for sure

[stuck seal]

100%

[shut hill]

Yea idk what you are trying to prove here

We know allat

[stuck seal]

damn I’m late to the lore stuff

anyways

[stuck seal]

guest is known for turning ravens too or crows

in the AS he doesn’t do that tho, he kinda just vanished

so idk if he still has that

probably does actucally

[shut hill]

Well when he vanished a singular feather was left there

So it could be from him or just one of the crows

[stuck seal]

Yeah, we see that in S1 too

[safe charm]

Yeah

[stuck seal]

s1 shows that A LOT

[shut hill]

Ehhh

We only see his beak

[stuck seal]

It’s kinda like the guest is watching the town

[safe charm]

Well he is lol

Hes ancient or really old at least

[stuck seal]

Well ofc

but still, we see the feathers in the school too

so

like

[shut hill]

That’s only from Abenante

[stuck seal]

yeah

[shut hill]

Who is a forest protector

Not the guest

[stuck seal]

(DID NOT KNOW THAT LOL.)

[shut hill]

The only time we see the guest in S1 is his beak

[stuck seal]

but still, how many powers do u think the guest has

[safe charm]

Well

[stuck seal]

like, the only ones I’ve seen or others is

[safe charm]

Not sure its Canon anymore but i Think it is

So

[stuck seal]

Vanishing, Shapeshifting,

[safe charm]

He can posses people

As well

[stuck seal]

so as crows and ravens

[safe charm]

He can shapeshift

[stuck seal]

you can see that in the show

[safe charm]

He can enter dreams

[shut hill]

Yea

[safe charm]

At least

In gn2 and problaby hnvr

[stuck seal]

Also in the prison scene, the neighbor knows the guest, since there’s a teaser of him talking with the guest in the background.

or well

yk

if u seen it

not like there

[shut hill]

Yea hut he’s not actually w the guest

[stuck seal]

yeah he just knows him

[shut hill]

He’s telling a story to Trinity and that’s just there as a visual

[safe charm]

He hates him

As well

And is afraid of him

[stuck seal]

yeah

[shut hill]

he hates his brother… (hj)

[stuck seal]

he does tho

blud hates and is scared of his bro

[safe charm]

The guest basically want to take any happiness

Away from people

[stuck seal]

taking happiness and people

[safe charm]

Thats established in graphic novel 2

[stuck seal]

The guest in the AS looks cooler then the games in my opinion ngl

like

his outfit is crazy

[safe charm]

Its cool but i wouldnt call it Crazy

Its just a cloak

[stuck seal]

well yeah

not crazy but cool

[safe charm]

Well he has a cape in hn2

[stuck seal]

yeah but like

it’s kinda like a cult cape

or smth

[silent ivy]

Joining in smash..

THE GUEST!.. takes away happiness!

[worn ibex]

Hey guys, currently working on a HG Fangame, we're brainstorming ideas for how MITH fits into everything and I'd like to hear your ideas on who he is, why he allegedly hires B & Q and why he confronts them

[astral agate]

Mith could be cop/detective maybe and was hired by someone to find quentin and beatrix perhaps?

And I don't think this is the place to talk about this #off-topic maybe?

[worn ibex]

Hmm interesting! And sorry for asking about it here I thought it kinda counted as lore although it was old lore

Oh well, I'll ask in off topic! Thanks though!

@astral agate why would he have their CVs though?

[unkempt sleet]

Man in the Hat

[supple coral]

ok im still not sure but after research theres a chance raven brooks' earthquakes is an aftereffect of the flood because apparently floods can affect seismic activity

but it still seems like a large amount of seismic activity for a town not near fault lines so chances are its still artificial

which was my original guess

but all the manmade earthquake machine research leads back to Nikola Tesla so youd assume his oscilator is involved somehow but I don't get how theodore managed to recreate it

[supple coral]

raven brooks is full of seismic activity during reset day

despite being not near any fault lines

and we know that a flood had happened years prior

floods can influence seismic activity

[strange lance]

it could also be the long lasting effects of Ted's experiements in the park. In the prolouge in Reset Day the 2 contructions workers fall into a pit that opens beneath them while working in the park, which you can see the same kinds of pits in Hello Engineer

I'd assume over time that those effects in the park spread through the town eventually

[safe charm]

Unrelated but I just have no idea what they want guest to be atm

I’m so confused

[safe charm]

Also Mouse hehe could i ask a question?

Noxified spawned

Nooo

[spark tulip]

they want him to be the main antagonist.. heh.

[safe charm]

Yeah but is he a creature or a person with magic abilities i genuinely can’t tell anymore

Because of AS

[strange lance]

sure

[safe charm]

So do you think Ted making rides unsafe is a thing in AS? Or do you think it’s been retconned

[spark tulip]

i don't think a person would be able to control crows like that

[strange lance]

I mean Lucy still does die on the coaster, but they could have just changed it to be only the cults fault. They're also showing past Ted to be super friendly and a good guy like all the time, they show him and is faimly at the park super happy which like never happened in the books. So if I had to say, i'd say they did change it

[safe charm]

I really Hope not

But eh it is what it is ig

[strange lance]

because like this is how earthquakes destroy roads, and the ground gets raised in many areas causing uneven levels. So thats probably what was going on in Reset day

[safe charm]

I just think him getting progressively more evil and insane over a long time is much better then just completely good guy family dies turns almost pure evil supervillain

[safe charm]

Also another thing speaking of good guy would you consider book Ted to ever been a good guy?

Like in the past

[supple coral]

thats a possibility

one of three

i didnt really think of it, i haven't played hello engineer

i havent played search and rescue either

most of my ideas just come from the books only so

[supple coral]

then again, whatever he used in H.E. could still be related to tesla's oscilators

[winter mason]

Yeah, aaron says that before making the amusement park in germany (I cant spell the name), Ted was a warm person (if I’m remembering correctly)

Or at the very least a good dad

[safe charm]

Hm

[unkempt sleet]

it changed during mid making of the amusement park in Germany

Yea

[safe charm]

I wonder why actually stress or something?

[safe charm]

In Nicky trilogy do you think he was just always bad

[tribal talon]

Is there 2 universes in Hn.

[safe charm]

From the start

Because Aaron trilogy feels like it retconned

Ted’s personality

To be less of a bad dude

[unkempt sleet]

No
İf you say otherwise the laser cat will kill you

[winter mason]

Probably, like the stress from the lack of time he had to properly make everything and do all the proper safety tests, then the stress and guilt from getting someone killed

Then the lawsuits

[tribal talon]

Didn't they make a new lore?

[safe charm]

I don’t think he felt too guilty

About it

At least not in Nicky trilogy

[winter mason]

Then having to move countries and back to raven brooks, then the same thing happening with the GAAP, I think he got progressively more crazy over time

[winter mason]

In nicky trilogy, I think he’s just went totally off the rails and it makes sense considering it takes place 3 years after aaorn trilogy

[tribal talon]

What trilogy

[safe charm]

Nicky trilogy

The 3 first books

[tribal talon]

Oh, okay

[winter mason]

After the curse on his family being sealed, that probably would’ve caused more stress. So it’s safe to assume that he just got worse over the past 3 years, and by the time the nicky trilogy takes place he’s too far gone

[safe charm]

I do wish it tied with hide and seek

Better though

[tribal talon]

So is there two universes or not?

[safe charm]

Kinda kinda not

It’s complicated

Books and game/AS universe

Isn’t one to one

At least

[winter mason]

Yeah, I like the book story better but I think the TV show ties into hide and seek much better

[tribal talon]

I thought that the books and original Hello Neighbor games were the first universe. And the other universe wad the show and Hn 2 and Hn Vr

[winter mason]

I think so, yeah

[safe charm]

Alex said that AS would diverge just a bit from the books so I wonder if stuff shown in like hnd is canon to AS

[winter mason]

I hear some people say the TV show is the new cannon, while others say it isn’t, I have no idea atp so I just go with the conclusion that the book/ game universe and AS universe are separate universes

[tribal talon]

👍

[safe charm]

This is what Alex said

About it

[ripe berry]

why wouldn't he specify the year
he knows that'll drive the fandom insane trying to figure out the years

[tribal talon]

Why do the years matter. We don't even know, how many universes there are.

[winter mason]

At the very least, I hope nicky and aaron’s friendship still exists in some sense even if the specific events of HND (or the books) don’t, because I feel like their friendship was an extremely important part of nicky’s motives rather than him just being a nosey kid

[winter mason]

You’ve already gone insane from piecing together HN lore anyway

[safe charm]

I still just want them to reveal about the guest

[tribal talon]

Wasn't Theodore the guest at one point in the books?

[winter mason]

I can’t wait for S2, I wanna see stuff about the guest

[supple coral]

reset day stuff

book 7

i was researching the supernatural stuff

[silver vine]

It was the cults fault in the books tho

Lucy's death

[stiff spire]

yeah

[strange lance]

It was both of their faults in the books. Ted would make his rides unsafe because they "took away the fun", but because he was cursed it would always cause them to fail and kill someone

of course ted doesn't wanna get people killed but its gonna happen cause of both the curse and himself

[silver vine]

Hmmmm

[unkempt sleet]

And Ted is supposedly a "genius" smh, If you have a curse that's making you so unlucky you shouldnt make the rides you make purposefully unsafe

[muted moon]

im pretty sure he only realised the curse existed after the gaap was near/finished construction

[unkempt sleet]

Could be true but his change in behaviour started during mid production of the germany park, then what was up with that if he didnt know about the curse

[muted moon]

he probably began suspecting something

he moves to raven brooks to investigate further

he learns about the cult, and discovers the curse

its too late

[unkempt sleet]

Makes sense

[muted moon]

i assume the curse is related to the cult in some way

[unkempt sleet]

it is, they're the reason of the curse

[muted moon]

wait

what if he was cursed AFTER moving to raven brooks?

idk

doesnt make as much sense

wasnt it about him and his family being cursed anyway?

[unkempt sleet]

i mean his parents were cursed aswell

[muted moon]

yeah

i havent read the aaron trilogy in a few years so i dont remember anything really

[silver vine]

No

He was cursed in the 60s

Along with his parents

They cursed his entire bloodline

[shut hill]

The visitor you describe isn’t playing kids games. You’re trapped in it now, just like me.

[onyx tide]

Hello neighbor 2 mobile?

[shut hill]

NEVER

[wicked heath]

hes yapping

[shut hill]

No it was because of Nicky’s great grandma

[tribal talon]

hey

everyone

[wicked heath]

Its actually just Grandma period

[shut hill]

My bad

[wicked heath]

In the books, we learn Nicky was left alone in a grocery store at the age of 3 or so

[shut hill]

And him being alone cursed mr Peterson

[wicked heath]

Wait oh hang on I got the whole conversation wrong

Didn’t realize this was satire

[silver vine]

Peterson's parents tried to expose the cult

Cult cursed then with forever bad luck

[wicked heath]

^

ITS SATIRE

Oh lord

[silver cargo]

I short, Zane accidentally started a different topic, that was not related to Peterson curse.

[shut hill]

I’ll tell you

So basically Teds parents hated the cult and they wanted to expose them for all the evil stuff and you know

But their whole bloodline (or family) gets cursed in the process

And that’s (mostly) why everything that’s bad happens to Mr. Peterson

And they have bad luck for eternity

[unkempt sleet]

This part of the message is partly wrong
They were studying the Raven Brooks's strange weather phenomena, and that's how they found about the cult, buy they couldnt publish their work as the cult didnt want it and thats how they were cursed

[shut hill]

My bad I forgot most of the books…

[stiff spire]

sad how the books are becoming sort of irrevelant now (I mean except for a few key factors that originated from it: lucy yi and the cult)

[unkempt sleet]

the cult is a big part of the books

[stiff spire]

yup

[untold lark]

i forgot this even existed

[winter mason]

Y’all I have a question, yk how the neighbours basement is this huge place with many hallways and rooms? Why is it just a normal basement in HN2?

[muted moon]

because the large basement got sealed off in hnvr, and a weird portal kinda just formed in there

and then the portal kinda just faded away later

[winter mason]

Ah, thanks

[zinc radish]

Hi

[winter mason]

Hello

[tropic shore]

Since Theodore's parents were german, and were scientists, does it mean they were involved in the party?

[rain sluice]

Ted's parents were not German if I am not mistaken, only Ted and his family lived in Germany before moving back to Raven Brooks

[tropic shore]

Perhaps I misred something, then.

[tropic shore]

Their station has a... Unique layout.

And an exterior look.

[tropic shore]

?

[safe charm]

Not really because the cult is still a thing and Mr Peterson past and most of book 1 is possibly canon due to the references in hn2 and also hnd(If you believe it’s not outdated that is)

[tropic shore]

What's a mayak?

[wooden hollow]

The weather station

[tropic shore]

Yes.

That's what I meant.

I just never came across this term for a weather station.

[safe charm]

Yes

The fart machine blueprints

In Nicky’s tree house

And stuff

[wicked heath]

No it is Nicky's

You can see his blueprints from the books and Diaries

Also, the animated Series has its own canon

[spark tulip]

not exactly

it's off to the side

let me grab a screenshot real quick

i just searched HNAS EP4 on YT, went to the correct timestamp, and grabbed a screenshot

i didn't

yes

yes, the green house right across the street to Mr. Peterson's in HN2 is Nicky's house

it's been like that since the beta version

HN2 beta

[ripe berry]

the exact same house was used for Nicky's House in the AS Pilot

MitH never reveals his secrets
||it's not confirmed but many think MitH is the Journalist before Quentin who got too close to the cult and had to go into hiding||

if MitH is Norman or the Journalist between Norman and Quentin is up for debate, but as there's little evidence Norman still exists most use the other journalist

Norman Darby is the Puzzle Master
Journalist between (more commonly referred to as just the Missing Journalist) is the one who recorded most of the tapes found around the HN2 Map

just wrote it

rule 13 says No talking Piracy on this server
that is Book Piracy

getting something you normally have to pay for for free, now I stop talking about it

#rules-and-info

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKkaHrU1KVM

[ripe berry]

this is the audio for the tapes

hidden ontop of buildings
there's puzzles or platforming (or both) to get to them

almost every Background building except Nicky's House has one

only certain words (shit and hell from what I've seen) can be said on this server
other words can't be said

if a repeated offense then yes

I'm not a mod so I dunno the exacts

yeah I know at least one person who's permenantly banned (not Depkis though he was only banned for 30 days)

as in what are the characters saying in Red and White Tape?

no one's fully translated Red Tape
but White Tape is the Mayor saying to the Police (in Wayron Croobian)
"You must find Peterson Immediately
You're not doing enough
Well, go back to the house and find the evidence
DEAL WITH HIM"

Blue Tape is the Missing Journalist taking photos of the Guest ontop of (presumably) the church
(where, wouldn't you know it, you can find MitH's Hat)

some townsfolk are
others like Nicky's Family or Ted's Family aren't

[ripe berry]

BUT (assuming the Aaron Trilogy is still reliable) the town was founded by the Cult in some way

Gerda the Baker and Mayor yes
Otto the Taxidermist is a maybe because he was actually friends with the Missing Journalist before his disappearance (so he may have left the cult)
Rescue Squad is a no

[ripe berry]

(other then Maybe Delroy)

this is a quote from Puzzle Master

yeah

[ripe berry]

"...Raven Brooks was built on a conspiracy of Ravens."

(Ravens is how Norman Darby refers to the cult)

I didn't take many screenshots of the Books when I rented them from the local library
the image is from Mr. Apple (if you've met him yet)

the active ones yes
not every single server member

yep

Cultists who owned the Golden Apple Corporation
one of them was the Mayor before the HN2 Mayor (some think they're the same but uh... doubt it... Tavishes are white and HN2 Mayor is Black... it's possible they changed the race of the Tavishes like they did with Maritza between Book 1 and Secret Neighbor tho)

there's a image of two Tavishes in the book that use the same color for their skin as Roger Peterson

lemme see if I have a image of that...

found it!

[ripe berry]

also Raven Brooks was only founded in the 1930s and I'm like 90% sure these Tavishes were alive after Raven Brooks was founded-
and something tells me two generations is not enough time for the facial structure to change and the race to change

[unkempt sleet]

Mayor HN2 i dont think is Tavish anyway

[ripe berry]

(again I didn't take a whole lot of images from the Aaron Trilogy but I did take a few at least)

[ripe berry]

yeah
Tavish steps down at the end of Aaron Trilogy
I doubt they'd just reelect the guy

[wicked heath]

I used to believe the game just call him Mayor just because he used to be mayor

Because I havent seen him doing any political stuff around the events of hn2

[jaunty torrent]

Hello everyone

[frigid pumice]

fgteev

[frigid pumice]

whats a tavish

[ripe berry]

.

[tropic shore]

A forest protector.

[wicked heath]

not necessarily

[wicked heath]

a member of the Tavish family

(butt-rich people)

[stiff spire]

yup

[shell gull]

I love the fact that Skin Color Retcons are something Common in HN.

[crisp swift]

hi this point makes 0 sense cause half-tone very commonly doesnt have same skin tones

also what book is this even from

[ripe berry]

iirc
this was from Book 4 and it was on a Newspaper in.. either Chapter 6 or 7

the book stated the image depicts Tavishes so I'm assuming these people are Tavishes

[ripe berry]

ok
I don't know shit about biology, so thanks for telling me that

[crisp swift]

half-tone is the art style they used :nod:

• they 100% did not have the book characters planned to be HN2 characters

honestly they 100% forgot about the minor book characters

[supple coral]

not just minor ones

[crisp swift]

but yeah this is 100 the tavishes

[supple coral]

major ones too lol

[crisp swift]

or they just forgot what Adelle and Roger looked like 💀

[supple coral]

like mayor tavish or gordon

[supple coral]

its the tavishes

[ripe berry]

doubt it
if they had forgotten they'd have probably made Roger look more closer to how Ted looks then make him look completely different from the Peterson Family

[ripe berry]

I mean
fair enough
Officer Kornwell was a woman in the Nicky Trilogy
but Leslie Kornwell (HN2/AS) is a man

[supple coral]

im pretty certain hn2 mayor isnt tavish lol

tavish lost his job in book 6

[ripe berry]

exactly

he lost his job as mayor and I doubt the RB Citizens would vote for him again

[crisp swift]

well i mean

they sure did forget by HN2!

seeing as he is literally just Theodore in HN2

[supple coral]

@crisp swift solve my secret quest

[ripe berry]

exactly what I used to make that claim

[crisp swift]

@supple coral I was in Mr. Peterson's house. You should steer clear.

[crisp swift]

yeah i dont

get why they did it

[supple coral]

is this a patch thing

[ripe berry]

the race thing just is bonus evidence

[supple coral]

i dont remember a roger pic

[crisp swift]

they had to:

• go find the book files
• notice the context for it
• subconciously decide to edit off his glasses

[crisp swift]

ye s

when they redid Theodore's house they added family photos

[ripe berry]

unused texture

[supple coral]

oh its unused

[crisp swift]

and one of them is the image of Roger and Adelle

[supple coral]

guess it doesnt matter then

[crisp swift]

was unused at launch *

[ripe berry]

and then they added a photo of Ted WITH Glasses

[crisp swift]

they fixed the whole "only Mya" thing

[ripe berry]

na it's still not there

[crisp swift]

it isnt?

swear it was

[ripe berry]

they only used some of the pictures

[crisp swift]

hold on booting up game 🤓

[supple coral]

rip

that was funny af

[crisp swift]

i still dont know how they bugtested

saw that all the photos were mya and went

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

"yeah push it"

[ripe berry]

funny that they put in a unedited GAIC image in final HN2 but the Roger/Adelle one they edited goes unused

[crisp swift]

also man does this game run like crap

in serious need of optimization

[supple coral]

i am on yakuza kiwami 2 you aint seen nothin yet

[crisp swift]

there is 0 way i can run Warzone max settings 144fps but not Hello Neighbor 2

[supple coral]

yakuza 0 and k1 were optimized as hell but this??? holy moly

engine has cool mechanics though

[supple coral]

the hn2 playtester trolling the devs by unintentionally leaving out blatant issues

[crisp swift]

also man I want to know where patch 10 is

if they are even working on a patch 10

its been almost a year since we've seen anything HN2 related

[ripe berry]

they claim they're working on it

[supple coral]

\

they claim

[crisp swift]

cant wait for a 30$ DLC that isnt included in the Season Pass ala Tarkov

[ripe berry]

No official news though

[crisp swift]

also yeah

they put glasses on one of the book ted pics

[ripe berry]

yep

[crisp swift]

despite

ted

never wearing glasses ? ever ?

[supple coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/737876701702258721/1252442144598392935/caption.gif

[ripe berry]

but they didn't put the Roger/Adelle photo anywhere in-game to my knowledge

[supple coral]

i dont even remember this particular ted pic tho

in books

[crisp swift]

its from uh

[supple coral]

its just kinda that artstyle

[crisp swift]

Aaron Tril maybe?

istg its in the books

[supple coral]

i dont think so

def book style though

[crisp swift]

also they

apparently

[ripe berry]

pretty sure all the images are from the books

[crisp swift]

remade the Mya and Diane photos

[ripe berry]

or modified versions of book photos

like with Diane

[crisp swift]

but not the only one that actually needed to be remade ?

like wh

[ripe berry]

Idk either

[supple coral]

wait wow

its strange seeing her normal haircut in this style

thats cool

[ripe berry]

there's only a few photos they didn't use
one of which is the Roger/Adelle Peterson photo

[crisp swift]

also i will never forgive them for replacing the fridge with this blatant advertisement for one of their worst games

[supple coral]

it is?

what gmar

[crisp swift]

The Fridge is Red

it is identical

same hand prints and everything

[supple coral]

why didnbt they just keep the already red fridge

[crisp swift]

because forced advertisement !!

for the game not meant for the Hello Neighbor audience !!

[supple coral]

wjat is that game even about

[crisp swift]

you see

the fridge, its red.

in all seriousness though its

American Horror Story

but really bad

it has 6 different "stories" in it and 4/6 of them are the worst storytelling ever

this review puts it best

[brisk mauve]

they most likely would've remade the fridge anyway but yeah I don't like the advertisement too

[muted moon]

Smeg fridge was cool

[stiff spire]

yeah

watch them turn a once simple object into an easter egg again ||/j||

[unkempt sleet]

this fridge conversation is so lore related

[brisk mauve]

they could've just remade the model but kept the smeg branding

[brisk mauve]

true

[median spruce]

Are the characters paid?

[unkempt sleet]

?

What do you mean

[median spruce]

In the game, all the characters became for donations

[rain sluice]

Hello, you're in wrong channel, for secret neighbor come here #secret-neighbor

[wooden hollow]

Peterson is a paid actor

[crude dew]

finally someone mentions
justice for smeg fridges!!!

[fervent coral]

Whole online?

[versed yacht]

not really

its just a neat easter egg but its like satan itself for some people

[versed yacht]

|

[shut hill]

It’s a Easter egg to another tiny build game

Called the fridge is red

[versed yacht]

you hold shift then press \ on your keyboard

[supple coral]

hello

[silver vine]

Hi

[tribal talon]

hey

[urban jolt]

OO

ok neighbour

mabye ill come smash ur window

[tawny badge]

Im too stupid and lazy to translate the bottom bit lol

[unkempt sleet]

Is that the HE intro

yea it is

looks like Ivan

"Kahllo sdık neew zepry"

[tawny badge]

Ye

[tawny badge]

Yea idk what its supposed to say

Something kids new something?

Idk

[unkempt sleet]

zepry could be prize

something kids new prize

[tawny badge]

Local? It might be a stretch idk

[unkempt sleet]

Maybe

local kids new prize

[tawny badge]

Local kids wone prize?

[crude dew]

yeah
and there is one in the beginning which says something about Peterson being...they chase him?? idk

[ripe berry]

kahllo sdik neew zepry
lokhal kids ween preys
local kids win prize

[ripe berry]

Teaserpon Teelgy
Peaterson Geelty
Peterson Guilty

it's in the wake of the GAAP Incident as the newspaper next to it says

Well
Imma just use Kometes image of the newspaper from 2022 as the texture hasn't changed since

Tisasder at the Krahp
Disaster at the Prahk
Disaster at the Park

also damn
-20 to -25 Degrees Weather?
IN THE SUMMER?

[ripe berry]

wait-
that looks to have a similar shape to the Trophy on the Left there
it is Ivan

unless I'm mistaking a human for a trophy or smth

[ripe berry]

I bet everyone in the Mid-West (including me) is wishing this was the weather forecast for them

[supple coral]

how do we know HE's season

just judging by the trees?

[tame mason]

I finished reading Nicky’s trilogy yesterday. Hard to believe that stacking boxes to get to Aaron’s bedroom in Act 1 is cannon.

[ripe berry]

no
The newspaper is from when the GAAP Opened (or only 2 weeks at most if the Nicky Trilogy is to be believed)
and the Nicky Trilogy told us the GAAP opened Summer 1992

[supple coral]

oh

so it was that cold the day the gaap opened??

maybe the weather changed when the ritual happened

the one that killed lucy

[ripe berry]

maybe

[unkempt sleet]

Storm

[supple coral]

its just weird that a storm would make it that cold

[unkempt sleet]

Well Raven Brooks's storms are weird

[supple coral]

maybe RB puts the degree sign first and its only 20/25 positive?

[ripe berry]

if HND's Calendar in the Memory showing the GAAP getting forced to open early is even remotely accurate it has to be July 1st due to that calendar having 31 days due to Ted marking the 1st of the Month and July's the only Summer Month with 31 Days

[supple coral]

then we could assume RB uses celsius and that would be a pretty normal temp

even if its america

[strange lance]

Nicky gets kidnapped shortly after HS which is in May placing his kidnapping in July/August, SN likely happens a few days after he is taken, and HE is right after that. So HE is in the summer

[ripe berry]

if you look closely above the 0 and/or 5 you can see a Degrees Sign

[strange lance]

Hnvr happens around a month and a little more later in september/Obtober, just in time for hn2s weather

[unkempt sleet]

We are talking about the day Gaap opened though, arent we

[ripe berry]

it's hard to spot due to the image being somewhat low quality

[strange lance]

Someone asked what HE's season was above

Was just clarifying

[unkempt sleet]

Ah

[supple coral]

depends on what we're going off of

books make nickys kidnapping a whole year after HS

[strange lance]

I forgot dang. But there is another way of finding out

[supple coral]

eh who knows

[strange lance]

Its all thanks to HE's intro

[supple coral]

i havent played the game yet i refunded a little bit in cause the gameplay wasnt really my thing

i wish i could play S&R i just dont have vr

i mean i dont even like any of this series' recent stuff but i think id still like S&R

S&R could help me with the open world raven brooks mod

just certain details

i already have the treehouse

[strange lance]

In HE you can spot Ivan's halloween costume for when they went trick or treating, placing HE in November (explaining the cold temperatures on the newspaper) which means that SN occured in October (which aligns with the game releasing on Halloween) and that Nicky was kidnapped in October (as 2 months later in hnvr he would be freed) Hnvr is a month after HE placing it in December which is when Nicky is freed, Quentin arrives to town, and Hn2 happens. But because the weather is screwed in Raven Brooks there is no snow (it was stolen like the snow theif SN event omg)

[supple coral]

well the cold temps were on the gaap opening day not during HE

[supple coral]

aaaaaaaaa this is strange

in hn1 it seems like summer when hes kidnapped

same with the AS

and it is in the books

[strange lance]

this newspaper is so dumb why is there both old and new News

also it still has the old scrapped missing kids

I would not trust this newspaper

[supple coral]

worlds weirdest newspaper

also do we know those kids were necessarily "scrapped"

they couldve just been on the paper with no necessary relevance

[ripe berry]

I don't see anything that has to be new news in this image?

"Peterson Guilty"
"Disaster at the Park"

both date back to the day of Lucy Yi's death

sure there's the missing children but we never really hear of them outside of HE so we have no clue when they went missing

[unkempt sleet]

Guest...

[ripe berry]

or Cult!
remember the Aaron Trilogy has a event surrounding Forest Protectors like 5 years before it where 3 kids got kidnapped and 1 escaped (basically the same as Halloween Incident other then when in the timeline it occurs)

Guest ain't the only one to kidnap people in the HN Lore

(Ted too but this would be before he would kidnap anyone)

[strange lance]

"disaster at the park!" shows people having fun

[ripe berry]

reminder this is from the same day the GAAP Opened
so they probably just used whatever images they had

[tawny badge]

Well i kinda doubt they'd show Lucy's lifeless body on the news

[hazy slate]

Possible modern Norman Darby sighting spotted within Otto's home

@ripe berry awaken

explain the package

[astral agate]

What? The wolf

Or the coat

[hazy slate]

Look at what is inside the wolf's mouth

[ripe berry]

or a MJ Reference