lore-discussion

[muted moon]

and obviously the only person someone would think would frame him was nicky

[snow mauve]

also cuz the way he's acting throughout season 1

[manic dirge]

He’s very calculated in the books

[stiff spire]

the neighbor seems to be more of a weirdo and a terrifying creep in the books

[safe charm]

I hope that side gets shown more in the AS season 2

[snow mauve]

I mean bro was smiling menacingly

In prison

[safe charm]

True

That feels like something the book version would do

[vast bone]

hi guys 😦

today i have bad news

[tribal talon]

What

[wicked heath]

hi guys 😄
today i have good news

[opal steeple]

What

[gleaming dagger]

hi guys🧐
today i have mid news

[cold gull]

What

[stiff spire]

hi guys 😎

today I have awesome news hopefully this will end the chain

[pale urchin]

Hi guys 🗣
Today I have peak news

[ripe berry]

hi guys 🟡
Today I have

[wooden veldt]

I have a lore question

[unkempt sleet]

Ask

[snow mauve]

2 hours later.. they didn't ask the question yet

[ripe berry]

no Lore Question?

[unkempt sleet]

We'll never learn what that lore question was

[manic dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/jaden-williams-florida-man-damn-surprised-shocked-gif-17828269498859244319

[ripe berry]

we never did learn what the lore question was

[snow mauve]

I predicted it!

[glad hornet]

y'know how theres that theory that the guest is leading quention

in Hn2

so i remembered that the guest is in the welcome home cutscene

it was a small detail i forgot about

[ripe berry]

yep

[glad hornet]

but i was wondering how weird it was that he was in the office asleep with the room completely open

like no door or anything

but what if the guest broke into the office

which is why the door is on the wall

and placed quentin in bed

and snuck away as he was waking up

maybe peterson left him at the barn

[ripe berry]

!
That's evidence I haven't seen get brought up for this idea

[glad hornet]

for the guest to put him there in the morning

as peterson ran from police

[hazy slate]

it's possible the guest tampered with the monitors (save for one, which is where Quentin actually needs to go)

((the forest))

[glad hornet]

but we dont know how much time has passed from hit in barn, and welcome home

[glad hornet]

interesting

[ripe berry]

actually we somewhat know

since you can see exact times on Quentin's Watch

[hazy slate]

the watch does not track days

[glad hornet]

maybe the guest places quentin back in bed every night, and changes the monitor before he wakes up

[ripe berry]

yeah, that's why I said somewhat

we know how many hours HAVE to pass, but not the exact day count for how much time's passed

[hazy slate]

it's useful for learning information on when the DLCs take place (assuming they're both during the HN2 intro) but not much else really

[ripe berry]

however I would assume not too much as it's already been like 3 days since Ted escaped Jail when Quentin's knocked out

[hazy slate]

wait

hold the hell up

[ripe berry]

something tells me the cops wouldn't wait much longer to go back to Ted's House

[hazy slate]

I just realized

[glad hornet]

time passes from the Hn2 intro start and the second part at night, do they happen in between there?

[ripe berry]

yep

[glad hornet]

oh cool

[ripe berry]

?

[hazy slate]

if HN2 really follows the AS timeline and not it's own game continunity

what the hell was Aaron doing when Ted was in jail?

[ripe berry]

however there's a missing period of time no matter what order you place the DLCs in, which is where AS Episode 9 occurs

[glad hornet]

what

tell us

[hazy slate]

did he just sit in the basement starving for an unknown amount of time?

[ripe berry]

(Back to School Ends after Barn Tutorial should've begun)

[hazy slate]

small thought, what if we've been looking at things wrong a bit

[ripe berry]

and Library isn't at 3 AM, it's at like 6 PM and then time jumps to nighttime for the ending

[hazy slate]

what if back to school takes place one day before the tutorial

(the intro is the morning afterwards)

[glad hornet]

hm

[finite hawk]

That doesn’t make any sense Quentin doesn’t even have his van after DLC 1 at most he set up his operations at a school bus besides the ending just shows the camera slowly moving away from the principal and his dogs We don’t hear anything like him driving away

There was also a tree branch at the end of the road so how would Quentin get past that even if he had his van?

[hazy slate]

Quentin has his van in back to school

you must be on a different version

[ripe berry]

they added Quentin's Van to both DLCs in Patch 9

[finite hawk]

Haven’t seen it myself

Besides DLC 2

[ripe berry]

along with Intro Cutscenes explaining why Quentin's there

[glad hornet]

ok but the books are so funny

[ripe berry]

which occur in Quentin's Van

[glad hornet]

the horns drawn on the librarian

better to avoid

[hazy slate]

also I guess this explains why the act 3 stuff isn't on the house.

[finite hawk]

I really don’t get the ending to DLC 2 You flooded the museum with I don’t know tar oil ink or some purple liquid

[ripe berry]

the real question is how Quentin perfectly drew blacked-out versions of Ted, Mr. Otto, and the Mayor

[hazy slate]

Ted could have tore it down after escaping jail and Quentin arrives last

[finite hawk]

You really get no confirmation what that liquid was supposed to be

[hazy slate]

really stupid cop out but still

[ripe berry]

pretty sure it's flooding the Library with Ink (since it's a Library and Ink's used to make Books) because Quentin grabs the Archives Book, which has a pressure plate under it that he didn't spot

[finite hawk]

What kind of ink is purple though if you look closely in the fountain in the back it’s purple and then some reason turns to black when you turn the value

[ripe berry]

weird lighting or smth Idk

[shut hill]

-100 aura

[ripe berry]

I just know it makes the most sense based off the context to be ink

[ripe berry]

the real question here is what the heck is a robotic heart doing at the bottom of the Library

[finite hawk]

I thought it was just the machine that produces the liquid

[ripe berry]

and yes that is a robotic heart, if you observe the model with the Hello-Copter it looks like a anatomically accurate heart

[ripe berry]

yeah but why is it heart shaped

[finite hawk]

Not to mention, the machine looks like a bean under the liquid

I would know because I somehow managed to clip under the liquid and saw the underneath

Looked like a large bean to me

[ripe berry]

I just call it a Heart for simplicity since we don't really know what the machine is

plus it's kinda the "heart" of the Library

[finite hawk]

The Liberian is the only character in this game who won’t throw you out immediately. It’s only if you cause a ruckus, which makes sense. She is a librarian

[ripe berry]

pumping the Ink(?) throughout the rest of the building, hence why almost the entire building floods in that ending

[ripe berry]

Makes sense

[glad hornet]

shame its bugged

[ripe berry]

Late Fees honestly has the most questions and the least answers

[finite hawk]

It’s Funny you hear chase music she reaches you and then she just looks at you and walks away

Like nothing happened yeah sure this character definitely has importance to the Lore

[ripe berry]

like who are the other 4 Librarians pictured in the restricted section

are they important in any way?

[finite hawk]

I think it might be her family or maybe the library founders?

Idk

That’s what I thought when I first saw it. It’s probably just pictures of her family

[glad hornet]

probably past librarians

[finite hawk]

Kind of weird that the key is in the chandelier

Like is it a tradition or something or just gameplay wise

[ripe berry]

there is a small observation me and RBC made about one of the Librarian Pictures that Imma share rn
This Librarian has a book matching the appearance of the Archives Book in her hands

(Red Book white a Yellow Title)

[snow mauve]

Late fees lore: the librarian murders all the other librarians

Smart as shit

[finite hawk]

Fact

Like she does not care

[ripe berry]

huh-

[snow mauve]

That was obviously a joke

But honestly I can see it

[hazy slate]

technically Gerda

can't forget Gerda

[snow mauve]

Ah yes the cultist member

[ripe berry]

note-worthy and somewhat alarming observation:
The Cultist Statue in the Museum has Gears inside of it

[shut hill]

I WANT NEWS

[wicked heath]

It’s a living like the chandelier

[wooden veldt]

Hey I have a lore question

[ripe berry]

ask away

[wooden veldt]

So some people say the coins are bad luck, but Mr Peterson and the cultists possess a multitude of them and they don’t have bad luck

I would like an explanation for my confusion

[ripe berry]

some tokens (what I call the coins) are bad luck, others are good luck, simple as that

[wooden veldt]

Oh

So does Mr. Peterson only collect the good luck ones? Because in the show he usually takes them from townsfolk’s who have bad luck

[ripe berry]

the ones in HN2 and the Animated Series have mainly been Good Luck
but in Hello Neighbor VR Bad Luck ones are shown

[ripe berry]

yeah because let's just say the Cult kinda... cursed his family with bad luck

dunno why the people who have them have bad luck but still

[wooden veldt]

I got it thx 👍

[wooden veldt]

What parts of the game are bad luck coins shown?

I kinda wanna look into this

[ripe berry]

there are collectible coins in Hello Neighbor VR identified as "Unlucky Coins" by the achievements

[wooden veldt]

Oh I see

[ripe berry]

they don't actually change anything in the story if you collect them but they're there

[safe charm]

I still have that crackpot theory that raven brooks in hn2 is in a time loop but the more I think about it the more my head hurts

[ripe berry]

it ain't just in the bottom, it's also in the middle bit

[strange lance]

Those are for the mechanical door at the base of the statue

We don't know whats inside the door

[ripe berry]

didn't know that
thanks for the info

[wicked heath]

Ted is not a cultist for sure

And if he made a deal with them, surely he just does it for his kid

[snow mauve]

Theo does have the bad luck for sure

[wooden veldt]

Mr Peterson isn’t but I’m saying the known cult members in the town have them in their house

[snow mauve]

Which is why he lost everything and shit

[wicked heath]

The coins might not even be bad luck for everyone

[wooden veldt]

Yeah I know I was asking why he wanted the coins if bad luck was the reason he lost everything

[snow mauve]

Yeah some have luck some don't

The coins definitely have some connection with the guest as far as we know

[wicked heath]

Since we are talking abt the coins, do you think the animators intended the coin in Ted’s hand to disappearing upon passing the Mayor?

[snow mauve]

Hell he even gave triniy coin

[snow mauve]

Nah

[snow mauve]

Duhhhh

That's why the bad luck coins exist

The masterman behind it

NO

You don't!

Everything

Naw

Because I'm getting so annoyed!!!

YES

Seriously tho I'm just trolling around

You're good

Rarely any good videos

That has accurate lore

Most of it doesn't even cover the actual other stuff

All they cover is just Theo losing his family and his son got locked up

And that's it

Yeah but the books are unfortunately not canon anymore

The animated series is pretty much now the main focus

Yeah

But the animated series will also cover those

So some of the stuff from the books are still canon

Like Lucy Yi

And her death

The mayak

Yep even tho it's just a weather station

She dies in a roller coaster ride

In theo's amusement park he built

I mean they built the mayak

Then just disappeared

Which they died

Unknown reason

All we know is that they're dead

Confirmed by Aaron and Mya mentioning their grandparents passed away

Somewhere in bad blood i think

Nope

Not at all

It's just HN2 but pre alpha

Which of course the alphas aren't canon

Yeah pretty much

He's still canon in HN2

Just not fully around

The MITH is likely to be the missing journalist

Before Quentin became a replacement journalist

Man in the Hat

Yeah

Patch 9 has this secret photo

And why we think this because he has Quentin's camera

Yeah but now got removed

And his grave is shut now

They're definitely planning to use him in the future

I'm sure

Unknown reasons

Maybe they just didn't want him to be in the grave

Or idk

Yeah yeah I know him

He's my friend

I've already seen lots of season 2 teasers

Could you rephrase that

I didn't understand you right

[ripe berry]

not in person, but me, Depkis, and a few others know him here on Discord, he's actually in this Discord

but I won't say his Discord username

[snow mauve]

Just online friend on discord

[snow mauve]

Yeah this guy is also my pal (I think..)

Yeah I've been here since June 2022

Even tho I left recently

[snow mauve]

Which is why now it says March 21, 2024 I joined

Not really

I was never into Pokémon

Sorry

[ripe berry]

October 2021 for me (I originally made this account with the sole purpose of getting the grappling hook in HN2 Alpha 1.5), something happened which made me leave the server for a bit so it says January 2022 for me

[snow mauve]

Ah

[ripe berry]

also just realized this is Lore Discussion
we should probably move to #off-topic or #hello-neighbor (for if the topic returns to smth HN-related)

[safe charm]

Hi

[wooden hollow]

wat isg uest world

[unkempt sleet]

Hello Lore

[ripe berry]

so we were discussing things related to the GAAP last right?

[unkempt sleet]

GAAP

Golden Apple Amusement Park

[ripe berry]

(just double checking what convo is getting moved here)

[unkempt sleet]

Which is now has a mascot bird

[wooden hollow]

Is the apple mascot a retcon or what?

[unkempt sleet]

Not related to Golden Apples

What Mascot

[wooden hollow]

from GN2

on the truck

[ripe berry]

HE and AS agree on this
but AS disagrees on there being a statue of it

[unkempt sleet]

Erm there could be two statues

in the park

[ripe berry]

it's also on a billboard in book one iirc

[ripe berry]

the statue would be moved then

[safe charm]

Okay so trinity Said that the coins are apart of the whole guest mystery Soo the coins and guest are 100 percent linked

[ripe berry]

because-

[wooden hollow]

sounds about right

[unkempt sleet]

Since we know Mascot Guest is still a thing in AS

With the entrance

[safe charm]

Thats why i draw a connection with Nightmare 3

But idk

[glad hornet]

hes just staring right into my soul

i dont like it

[wooden hollow]

could just be a different part of the park

[ripe berry]

here the map only has one statue and said statue is of a Golden Apple

[unkempt sleet]

Ooor Guest with a Golden Apple on his head /j

[wooden hollow]

he wants your money

[ripe berry]

only one spot for a Statue on the map in the corner though

[glad hornet]

scawy

[safe charm]

What

Oh

Thats gaap park?

[wooden hollow]

that map is way too small

[unkempt sleet]

Okay now if HE Park Map didnt exist, i would point out that HE statue looks like its made out of scraps

But HE park map exists with the guest mascot statue

[ripe berry]

it's the HE GAAP Map but flattened out

[wooden hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571975077638176789/1231705571875618878/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_1.gif

[unkempt sleet]

Okay so, remember they tried to reopen the park in the books after the Lucy Yi incident

What if the Guest statue was put there in one of the reopen tries

but never couldnt be quite finished since the park didnt reopen

[safe charm]

So how did the guest look before gaap mascot?

[ripe berry]

unless you mean image size it's the perfect size for HE GAAP

[unkempt sleet]

so it looks like its made out of scraps

[wooden hollow]

bird

[safe charm]

Bird man

[unkempt sleet]

What do you guys think

[wooden hollow]

no just a bird

[ripe berry]

possibly?

[finite hawk]

The only areas we went in that game was the waterslide area, the desert area, and the space area

[wooden hollow]

I mean it's a smart idea but there's not really any evidence for it

[finite hawk]

Literally half the park is unused

[unkempt sleet]

So lets call it a Glorified Headcanon

[safe charm]

Hard to know if your serious

Or not

[unkempt sleet]

You asked how Guest looked like before the park mascot

[safe charm]

Yeah

[unkempt sleet]

And she says Bird

Which is possible

[safe charm]

Giant bird maybe?

[wooden hollow]

I don't know tbh

[safe charm]

Nightmare 3

[ripe berry]

Ferris Wheel is there because Ferris Wheel is iconic part of the GAAP
Roller Coaster is there because Lore
and the [REDACTED] is a cut level (Spooky Mansion)

[unkempt sleet]

No?

What

[ripe berry]

and we also technically go to the Racetrack

[safe charm]

Nightmare 3 could be how guest used to look before adopting his humanoid form

I dunno

[ripe berry]

as a part of the Waterslide level

[ripe berry]

that's just the Statue in the Museum

[unkempt sleet]

The Hello Neighbor 2 Crow statue is always used for representation of things, whether its the cult or the Guest

[safe charm]

Yeah

[unkempt sleet]

But in universe its just a normal crow statue

[safe charm]

Imagine guest lore is super simple lol

And we’re just stupid

[unkempt sleet]

To make the Museum look more presentable

[ripe berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1144008631352823891/1243312312002023605/20230808_191647.gif

[ripe berry]

yeah

[safe charm]

Could you send what book fp

Look like

[ripe berry]

hold on lemme get the Book 5 Cover again...

[unkempt sleet]

they had a hat

[safe charm]

There’s an in game

Image

I mean

In book image

[ripe berry]

Book Forest Protector

[safe charm]

That’s more detailed

[unkempt sleet]

And in Aaron's drawing they had a very fluffy neck thing i cant remember the name of

[safe charm]

There’s an in book description

[unkempt sleet]

Now bring up Aaron's sketch of a FP

[ripe berry]

don't have it saved, lemme try to look for it in the chats

[safe charm]

That looks awfully a lot like reset day guest carving

To me

It made me convinced that guest has to be connected to the cult how no idea but they look a lot similar with the beak and everything

On Aaron drawing

It would be such a coincidence otherwise to just have a bird man and a bird people cult in the same universe

[ripe berry]

it was this, right?

[safe charm]

Bro look how similar they are

[ripe berry]

I remember someone on the server had this as a pfp at some point

[unkempt sleet]

Yea

[safe charm]

This looks so much like guest to me

The beak

Part

[ripe berry]

funny how the HN2 Design is mostly accurate to this minus the hat and glasses and more realistic proportions

[unkempt sleet]

But i think that was drawen when Aaron still thought they were actual bird creatures or something

[safe charm]

Yeah but still he saw them right?

[unkempt sleet]

Barely i think

[safe charm]

I think he just exaggerated

Their appearance

[unkempt sleet]

i like the HN2 design

[safe charm]

Like their length

[safe charm]

I prefer the book

Design ngl

The Aaron drawing one

But the question is

[ripe berry]

also wasn't this version referenced in SN?

[safe charm]

How the heck does guest and mayak and cult all fit together

[unkempt sleet]

Really?

[ripe berry]

they used the Book 5 Cover FP on one of the badge-things

[unkempt sleet]

Ah

[ripe berry]

I remember finding some of the badge descriptions
Very
Very
Interesting

[safe charm]

I’m gonna be honest if guest if guest wasn’t shown to be supernatural and all that

I would think he’s a forest protector lol

[unkempt sleet]

Which ones are you talking about...

[ripe berry]

this one annoys me for specifically using the term manifestation (this isn't the main one tho)

[unkempt sleet]

Mayak manifested The Guest...

[safe charm]

[ripe berry]

it was this one I found interesting iirc

[safe charm]

What’s that supposed to mean

[unkempt sleet]

Unforeseen Disaster

[ripe berry]

my exact thoughts

[strange lance]

Fun fact: That badge is called "Wealth" in the files

[unkempt sleet]

if it was a Weather Disaster, i dont think it would be unforeseen considering its Raven Brooks

[ripe berry]

I get this is kinda a book 7 reference
but no matter what Book 7 hasn't occured yet

[ripe berry]

the one about unforseen disaster?

[strange lance]

Yes

[unkempt sleet]

Forest Protectors maybe

idk

i dont know how that badge would tie into FP's

[safe charm]

The weirdest one is the hospitality

One

[strange lance]

Its in the shape of the luck device from the pilot. Luck device connected to cultists wanting to be rich

[safe charm]

With the guest

[ripe berry]

wasn't there also one talking about Ted's House being a ruin?

[safe charm]

Oh yeah

There was

[strange lance]

It doesn't talk about his house specifically but the badge does use his house

[unkempt sleet]

Burned House...

[ripe berry]

actually the AS Pilot Luck Device is a Pentagon

[ripe berry]

the badge image just has Ted's House in disrepair

not the version from Act 3 of HN1

[strange lance]

Erm close enough 🤓

Thats probably what it was trying to be

Holo forgot what shapes are

[ripe berry]

someone send the Ted's House badge image I can't find it in my saved images

[unkempt sleet]

i like that design

[safe charm]

I can’t get it off my head how reset day guest basically almost looks like a forest protector Aaron drew but without cloak and hat

[ripe berry]

nvm found it

here it is

[wooden hollow]

Did you make that

[unkempt sleet]

Yea

[wooden hollow]

Can you send it in dms so I can texture it tomorrow

[unkempt sleet]

Abandoned ruin...
it doesnt say a house...
Which would mean the house burnt down to a ruin

[ripe berry]

this badge using a image of Ted's House annoys me

[unkempt sleet]

Sure, i'll send it when i get on PC

[ripe berry]

the Badge's Image shows a intact but still ruined house

[unkempt sleet]

i think the artists that made the badge doesnt know the lore or something smh

idk

[safe charm]

In reset day it basically looks like this

Kinda

[strange lance]

I think its as simple as them just wanting to reference the abandoned ted house

[safe charm]

Not really but sorta

[strange lance]

Its not that deep

[ripe berry]

we use the badge about Journalism as MJitH evidence

[unkempt sleet]

erm Burned House better

[safe charm]

Eh

[ripe berry]

if we toss this badge's image out we toss that badge's image out

[safe charm]

I sorta prefer it still standing

[strange lance]

Burned house more like no house at all

[safe charm]

Abandoned

[unkempt sleet]

Why is this hard

[unkempt sleet]

i like it being accurate to HN1

[safe charm]

Well I don’t see hn1 as that canon anymore but basic events

[strange lance]

Hn1 is extremely outdated and they wanted to change things for the better

You can do a lot of cool things when the house is abandoned. You dan't do anything if its a pile of wood

[safe charm]

Hn1 was made with much of the current stuff not in mind

[unkempt sleet]

Too bad the pile of wood is probably still the canon one

[strange lance]

Same with the park being burned down. They legit wouldn't be able to make any content with the park if they kept it burned, hence it being made abandoned instead

[unkempt sleet]

Awesome inconsistencies

Makes everything just harder

[safe charm]

True Hn lore and continuity is an inconsistent mess many times

[unkempt sleet]

You cant use that excuse everytime an inconsistency is brought up
Theres small ones and then theres big ones

[safe charm]

Most are big ones

Though

With hn

[strange lance]

The park one while big is justified imo. Look how much lore and content we've gotten out of one retcon

Imo that was a good decision

[safe charm]

Yes it is

[unkempt sleet]

Im not saying park staying was a bad choice, i like the park

[ripe berry]

gotta love how the Park being destroyed was to make the Book accurate to HN1 (where there's no Park visible in the map)
but then they retconned it to make it not accurate to HN1/The Books

[safe charm]

Hn1 is outdated as hell so doesn’t really matter

[unkempt sleet]

But the Park being gone in Book 3 had a big impact on Nicky, and contributed to him feeling leadless which lead him to break into the House in Act 1

[safe charm]

The hn1 remake if it happens

Will definitely be the canon version

With original being decanonized

[unkempt sleet]

But now thats retconned? idk

i mean if you say HE is connected the books

which probably is but eh

Time Loop and stuff i know

[strange lance]

Theres enough Nicky depression in the books I think we can live without that one

[ripe berry]

in-fact gotta love the books trying to incorporate references to HN1 Lore throughout

[unkempt sleet]

im just saying, if they wanted to keep something, they shouldnt have made it gone in the first place

Like the Park

[ripe berry]

like the beginning of Book 3 is the Act 3 Birthday

[strange lance]

Again HN was never meant to be this big. Over time they kinda had to change things

[ripe berry]

they were still trying to keep things as HN1 Accurate as they could

[strange lance]

Gtg

[ripe berry]

course correcting from the original non-canonicity of the books

[unkempt sleet]

With books not being canon, the Park being there affects nothing now as it was never removed at some point in the timeline

[ripe berry]

and then they retconned over the course-correction

[unkempt sleet]

People say they want consistencies, except when it comes to books

[ripe berry]

(because they confirmed the Books were canon but originally weren't at some point)

[safe charm]

I hate how it took them 7 books before deciding to retcon them

Like why didn’t they make

[unkempt sleet]

Thats how things work buddy

[safe charm]

Up their minds earlier

[safe charm]

They sadly didn’t fix the lore at all

Yet

[unkempt sleet]

sometimes you put up too much work in something before realizing you dont wanna continue with that thing and instead start a new rhing

[ripe berry]

hell they changed Missing Pieces post-release to try to make the book more game-accurate

[unkempt sleet]

Thats how humans work

[safe charm]

It’s still a jumbled together mess

[unkempt sleet]

And i hate it but its what it is

[ripe berry]

(Mya and Diane originally had Brown Hair according to book but it was changed to Red when HNHS dropped)

[unkempt sleet]

Wasnt Diane's design literally different in the books

[ripe berry]

yeah

[unkempt sleet]

I find that weird all the time

[safe charm]

Also Nikita said that everything is canon due to mayak while it’s old could still be the case

[ripe berry]

this is kinda what I mean by trying to course correct after a last-second canonization

[unkempt sleet]

Why did they change Diane's design in the books for no reason

[ripe berry]

some things they couldn't fix

other things they tried their hardest to make it as accurate as they could with what they had

taking away Nicky's Friends for HN1 by the end of Book 3

[safe charm]

That’s why while I love hn lore I also despise it at the same time because they can’t make up their minds like ever

[unkempt sleet]

its not like Diane didnt have a proper design before the books (which is an argument you might use for Maritza or something)

[ripe berry]

and removing the GAAP because it's not in the HN1 Map

and even then they still made mistakes

[unkempt sleet]

i mean GAAP was in the woods, which you might say the woods werent a part of the HN1 map or something

But factory is there

Frick

Yea

[safe charm]

Also I still hope they find a way to make the books canon to some capacity

[ripe berry]

they made Act 1 occur during a storm instead of in broad daylight at 3:30 PM

[unkempt sleet]

they wont

[safe charm]

Mayak

Time loops

Exists

[unkempt sleet]

Books messed up a lot of things

They were cool yea

[safe charm]

So does AS

[unkempt sleet]

But they did mess up a lot

[safe charm]

It’s litteraly not much better

It’s still a train wreck

[unkempt sleet]

What AS does is take pieces from all the HN media and make it a cohesive new thing that is its own thing

[ripe berry]

yeah
that's what I mean by the GAAP getting destroyed in Book 3 was meant to be a course correct to try to align the books as much as they could with the game

[unkempt sleet]

So like a reboot

[ripe berry]

but then they realized keeping the GAAP around is better for more stories so they decided to keep it around

[safe charm]

Maybe the games is their own narrative but hn2 is connected to the AS narrative more then the other games perhaps

Idk

[ripe berry]

but they greatly shrunk it's size for HE (probably to still make it not being seen from the HN1 Map make sense still)

[unkempt sleet]

Micheal no offense but i dont think anyone cared about the HN1 map on the things made after HG

the devs i mean

[ripe berry]

fair

[safe charm]

But the AS writers said how important it was to not step on the existing lore tbf

[unkempt sleet]

John cage or whatever that dudes name is

i forgot

[safe charm]

Carnage

[unkempt sleet]

is he an AS writer

[ripe berry]

also gonna just mention how the SN GAAP is actually modified version the Book Map

[safe charm]

He’s the lead

[unkempt sleet]

Who's listed as the writers in the credits

[safe charm]

Of it

[unkempt sleet]

Okay good to know

[safe charm]

So that’s why I think the books are still semi canon

To some extent

[ripe berry]

rides are located in the same general area in Map 5 as a close equivalent to what they are in the Books Map

[unkempt sleet]

i think you just cant let the books go

[safe charm]

Because honestly the games stories has been pretty mid

[ripe berry]

games are MID?!

[unkempt sleet]

And yea, its immediatly proven aswell

i like the games stories

[safe charm]

Hn1 story isn’t that interesting

Nor is hn2s

To me

[unkempt sleet]

if i didnt find HN1 and HNHS's story interesting, i wouldnt be here now

[safe charm]

I’m here only because of the books and AS at this point

And hn2 future

[unkempt sleet]

When i liked HN, i liked Wilson's tragic story

[unkempt sleet]

You might be for those but you gotta remember not everyone is there for just them

[safe charm]

Yeah but if someone aais to you I think you just can’t let hn go would you do that? Books is not hn as a whole but it’s something I like

[ripe berry]

Thomas Wilson mentioned
Alpha Fans go!

[unkempt sleet]

Erm i refer to him as just Wilson smh

Also where the hell did Thomas come, i thought it was Mart because of that one channel

[safe charm]

True most non die hard hn fans people are here for the AS

Because it’s actually good

[unkempt sleet]

im here for Hello Neighbor

And all things related to it

Doesnt matter if its a book or a cartoon or a game

[ripe berry]

pretty sure in the first ever video they made on HN they called him "Tom Wilson"

[unkempt sleet]

So many names...

[safe charm]

Yeah so stop saying I should let something go

That’s the same as I would ask you why don’t you let hn2 go

[unkempt sleet]

i said that when we were arguing about lore

For example you can hold on to the Alpha's but you cant say theyre still canon, right?

[safe charm]

I just think the books improved the games story

That’s it

[unkempt sleet]

And the improvements are still there

[winter mason]

Hey

[unkempt sleet]

Like most of the HN's Supernatural concepts with the weather or luck manipulation and cults originate from the books, doesnt it

And those improvements are still in HN

[winter mason]

Real

[safe charm]

Lore wise guest and Mr Peterson is the things I care about

And mayak

[winter mason]

My all time fav things the HN franchise are the books and the first game

Especially the first game

[unkempt sleet]

Then youre gonna have hard time trying to just care about those because those are connected to all sorts of other things

[safe charm]

I just liked the books because they made mr Peterson actually scary

[safe charm]

Which stayed in AS

Thankfully

[winter mason]

Yeah carly did a phenomenal job with these

[ripe berry]

yep

[unkempt sleet]

i liked Aaron Trilogy because he still cares about his familt more than anything
Which also stayed in AS it seems

[ripe berry]

pretty sure everything in HN is interconnected

[winter mason]

I might get made fun of here, but what is mayak

[unkempt sleet]

The Weather Station

With the eye

[winter mason]

I kept assuming people just kept misspelling maya 😭😭🙏

[unkempt sleet]

[ripe berry]

The HGP Good Ending building

[winter mason]

Ohh

[safe charm]

Would you be mad if it didn’t genuine question I’m very sure it stayed due to the flashback but still

Just thinking hypothetically

[ripe berry]

this is Mayak

[unkempt sleet]

i wouldnt like it

i like Ted that cares about his family

Even though he might be evil

[safe charm]

Nicky trilogy Ted probably does deep down

[ripe berry]

and this is concept art of the Mayak complete with random shadow people

[winter mason]

Ah right

[unkempt sleet]

i dont know really, He surely doesnt act like that in Nicky Trilogy

With the Book 1 and the Tapes that Nicky found

[ripe berry]

this is... Mayak? whatever, it wasn't ever used in-game

[safe charm]

Honestly I don’t mind that change too much although it ruins hide and seek sadly

But other then that

Ehh

[winter mason]

I thought of that too

[unkempt sleet]

See thats a difference between you and me

[ripe berry]

and this is new Mayak Design for the Animated Series, making it look more like a actual weather station

[unkempt sleet]

something you dont care much about but its something i care about

[winter mason]

Then again, I think he had moments where he acted loving then snapped the next

[safe charm]

Because he was clearly unhinged

And not a good man

lol

[unkempt sleet]

Unhinged and bad people still might have people that they care about

[winter mason]

Thanks actually, when I was reading the books I struggled to picture what the weather station looked like

[winter mason]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

also don't forget peak Episode 7 Inventor's Club Lore Pinboard thing

[safe charm]

I think you don’t really understand it ngl Ted in Nicky trilogy did care for his family deep down but he only realizes it when their gone

[ripe berry]

I love how Mayak, Crows, and a Guy's house bunring down are all tied to the School

plus whatever these pictures are

[winter mason]

The lil doodles on the board are adorable lol

[unkempt sleet]

"Family makes you stronger
Not necessarily"

He also doesnt act very lovingly towards Aaron after everyone is gone

[ripe berry]

and that Mayak is linked to a crow which is linked to a Golden Apple which is linked to a Guy getting seriously injured in a fire

[safe charm]

Have you seen Aaron in hn2

lol

He’s mistreated

And dirty

Such a loving father

[strange lance]

This is fake mayak from Replica Island

Get it RIGHT

[winter mason]

Now I KNOW HN2 aaron smells absolutely horrendous 😭😭🙏🙏

[strange lance]

Smh..

[unkempt sleet]

Yet he still comes to his Father in the ending and Theodore also tries to protect him in Saving Aaron cutscene

[safe charm]

Because he loves him have you never heard of abuse

[unkempt sleet]

Not saying he's a great father or anything

[safe charm]

It’s still his father

So he still loves him

[winter mason]

Yeah not to mention his only remaining family member

[safe charm]

Also Aaron in AS cries 24/7

Doesn’t he

[ripe berry]

seriously why the emphasis of fire on the board

[unkempt sleet]

But then you're the one saying this?

[ripe berry]

gotta love how we just ignore the fact this even exists in the canon

[safe charm]

Yep

I said that

[winter mason]

I assume this is mr peterson’s house, right?

[safe charm]

I don’t mean he literally beats the shit out of him but he definitely didn’t take proper care of him

[winter mason]

Cause in HN1 act 3, his house is burned down

[unkempt sleet]

Ted has his not very great ways of protecting Aaron, but still in the deep down he's trying to protect him

[safe charm]

He does in Nicky trilogy as well

[ripe berry]

no, this is from Episode 7

[safe charm]

He just wanted to protect me in his own horrible way

[unkempt sleet]

The thing is that its not communicated well in Nicky Trilogy even if it is

[ripe berry]

the house still exists by Episode 9

[winter mason]

Ah, mb

[ripe berry]

the house will burn down during HN2 if teaser images are to be believed

[unkempt sleet]

The only thing that shows that He cares about him is the fact that he is in the basement, its not conveyed in any other way

[safe charm]

If he ai despises Aaron in Nicky trilogy why did he bother making an amusement park in the basement

[unkempt sleet]

And i've also never saw Aaron like his Father in Nicky Trilogy

[unkempt sleet]

Unlike Aaron trilogu

[ripe berry]

hell even I forget to include it on my timelines

[winter mason]

I was about to say that

[unkempt sleet]

I never said he despises him?

im just saying he doesnt care about him as much as he did in Aaron Trilogy

[safe charm]

AS ted doesn’t even bother lol he makes all the fun for himself

[winter mason]

Also one of the reasons he kidnapped nicky was because “he wanted aaron to have a friend”, I could consider that caring in his own horrible way

[safe charm]

In the act 3 house

[winter mason]

As aaron put it

[safe charm]

While Aaron is in a dark dirty basement

[unkempt sleet]

The Act 3 House is not real but okay buddy

[safe charm]

I think it is

[unkempt sleet]

in AS, Guest comes into the picture i'd say

He's manipulating Theodore

[safe charm]

It genuinely looks

Like he’s been beaten

[unkempt sleet]

Not really?
He just looks tired

[winter mason]

That makes me think of that family guy scene with peter on the swings and stewie saying “but I want a turn, it looks fun ☹️” then peter snapping “NO” 💀

[ripe berry]

how it feels to Hello Neighbor Lore

[safe charm]

But yeah Nicky trilogy Ted and AS ted is definitely my favorite versions

[winter mason]

He looks like that chin girl from the amazing world of gumball

Sussie

[winter mason]

Real

[ripe berry]

I've noticed you use this exact Gif like 3 times today
you must like the character in the gif somewhat lol

[unkempt sleet]

i sometimes overuse gifs lol

[ripe berry]

(I know, I know, hate on me all you want for not watching (I think that's) Adventure Time)

[unkempt sleet]

Yea thats Gunter from Adventure Time

[winter mason]

My main source of HN2 lore is looking at whatever michaelhuff is driving himself insane about in this server 💀💀/ j

[safe charm]

Because I really don’t care too much about the lore established in hn1 and hide and seek it’s definitely not bad but interesting to me ehh I find the book and AS version of the story more interesting

[ripe berry]

GUNTER?

LIKE GUNTER THE PEAK HN2 CHARACTER?!

[unkempt sleet]

Yea thats why i sent it when you mentioned Gunter earlier

lmao

[ripe berry]

makes sense

[safe charm]

Many theorists like matpat stopped caring after hn1 fg because the story well it just wasn’t interesting to theorize about

[ripe berry]

(if you've played the Back to School DLC you know for a fact Gunter's a Good Boy)

[safe charm]

Also hnvr is it even canon? I really don’t know

[winter mason]

I think it’s just a fun spin off for vr (keywords being I think)

[safe charm]

Maybe

[unkempt sleet]

isnt Matpat the guy that made a theory about skibidi toilet

[safe charm]

And now you get defensive because I brought him up…..

[winter mason]

I’m gonna miss matpat

Lmao

[unkempt sleet]

You also get defensive when i talk bad about something you like

[safe charm]

Yeah

[unkempt sleet]

also he thought Neighbor made a deal with the devil or something, when that wasnt the case in reality

[safe charm]

He had alphas to work off

So it’s a valid theory

[unkempt sleet]

Also you say that but i also saw a lot of people that love the HN1's story

[safe charm]

He said when hn1 fg came out I understand it I just don’t care about it to theorize

[unkempt sleet]

Mainly outside of this server

[safe charm]

Yeah and that’s good for them but there’s also many that didn’t care

About it

[snow mauve]

Dayum

Defeated by bot

[winter mason]

I love HN1 sm

[unkempt sleet]

Okay bad for them but theres also many that did care

[safe charm]

How is it bad for them?

[winter mason]

Worst part was I didn’t even swear 😭😭🙏

[safe charm]

They don’t care lol

[snow mauve]

Oh guestyyy guestyyy guestyyy

[unkempt sleet]

Then i am guessing youre not one of them

[unkempt sleet]

Because you clearly care enough to argue about it a lot

[snow mauve]

Funny

[safe charm]

I like hn1 it’s a fun game

But the story isn’t too deep to me

[snow mauve]

What a liar

[unkempt sleet]

So you dont care

[snow mauve]

Sometimes games isn't always mainly about story

Bub

[safe charm]

About the story not really

[snow mauve]

So you don't care

About the game

[unkempt sleet]

Okay then its not worth arguing about

[snow mauve]

Anyways get flashed

[winter mason]

I absolutely love HN1, the thing I don’t like about the gameplay though is the lack of hints for the puzzles in act 3

[snow mauve]

Same

Tho the one thing I mainly hate

Is the school fear rooms

Everything else for me it's good 👍

[safe charm]

Hide and seek story is good and so is hn1 I just don’t really care about the lore in a way where I think omg it’s so interesting

[winter mason]

Like I feel like it’s almost impossible to complete act 3 without a guide

[safe charm]

The AS stuff

However and some of the later games

Peeks my interest more

[winter mason]

Why would you do this to us…

[snow mauve]

To make you forget

[winter mason]

Honestly the lore is still the same, it isn’t shown in HN1 because

1. I don’t think it was planned at the time they made HN1
2. HN1 is based around nicky’s trauma rather than the other events of ravenbrooks (correct me if I’m wrong)

[ripe berry]

I mean
I do thnik a being similar to the Guest has been a idea since HNHS

and there is something that could possibly become related to MitH (the guy in my pfp) in HN1

[snow mauve]

Plus hn1 is kinda rushed y'know

[winter mason]

Yeah because of the whole crow thing

[winter mason]

Yeah I gotta agree with that, still peak game though

[ripe berry]

HNHS Alpha
HNHS Release Trailer
HNHS Stage 5 even

[safe charm]

True

[snow mauve]

Man I remember making that one shitty theory about the crows are like the Thing's camera that's watching the whole time (the time I never knew the thing is just fear)

[ripe berry]

(for context there's a house with a Black Car (MitH's Car Color), a Hat (MitH's Hat is a modified HN1 Hat Model), and Binoculars (MitH uses HN1 Binoculars in one of his animations in HG) behind Ted's House (SN Trophy Description talks about MitH watching the Peterson Household) in HN1)

[ripe berry]

now it's the Guest's camera lol

[snow mauve]

Haha

[winter mason]

Yk, I wonder if the thing is an actual entity, like I know it’s an embodiment of fear, trauma, terror, despair, allat but could it possibly be like an ACTUAL entity that gets in your head once you’ve been exposed to a certain amount of trauma?

Like nicky said “it gets in your head”

[snow mauve]

Yeah I wonder that too

But nowadays I just think he is just Nicky's own "imaginary fwend"

Or enemy

[ripe berry]

oh dear lord

[snow mauve]

AS deaths:

[ripe berry]

I remember how people made Family Guy GIFS everytime a death was shown for AS

there was one for the first 2 episodes

[winter mason]

IMAGINARY FRIEND 💀💀 I just imagine
Luanne: who are you playing with sweetie?
Nicky: amanda
Luanne: OH! WHO ARE YOU??
The thing: I’m amanda, I’m 6 ☺️

[snow mauve]

Lmao

[snow mauve]

Man remember the time when we thought each episode will have some death scenes (cuz Alex said something about it I think?)

We've been scammed bro..

[winter mason]

💀

The landlord who got ran over is that scene of brian getting ran over

[ripe berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787355342534213652/1051518080871825528/caption.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787355342534213652/1054077039801532436/caption.gif

these are the gifs I was talking about

[snow mauve]

Lmao

Those were perfect

[ripe berry]

also gotta love how this was changed from the script to be the traps Ted has in Episode 5

(and it confirms the dead guy is a Store Clerk, which is what I officially will call him)

[winter mason]

CALLED IT

[snow mauve]

So he killed himself or theo did it orrrrrrrr???

[ripe berry]

Theo didn't do it

he was already dead

when Ted fires the Nailgun it hits a Oil Can

[snow mauve]

So it's still unknown who did it

[ripe berry]

and you don't see a hole in the guy's head

[snow mauve]

Oh shit

[ripe berry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1144008631352823891/1238862477253414983/20240511_092507.gif

[ripe berry]

now wheres the GIF for the Episode 3 Death Scene where the guy slips and falls

[snow mauve]

Hmmmmm

[ripe berry]

I'm almost certain there's at least one scene of someone falling down a flight of stairs or smth in Family Guy

[snow mauve]

I would use peter slipping down the stains while swearing

(If you know what I mean)

[ripe berry]

ok

[snow mauve]

STOP

I hate the response "ok"..

[ripe berry]

Family Guy, the Simpsons, and SpongeBob
they have a clip for everything

[ripe berry]

ok

:trol;

[snow mauve]

My feelings..

[ripe berry]

anyways back to lore

[snow mauve]

The lore isssssss

Messy as shit

[ripe berry]

you know- little detail I noticed

[snow mauve]

What

[ripe berry]

in the Teasers for the AS Lucy Yi Episode, despite being in the Second Cart, Lucy Yi is alone on the ride
if one remembers the Aaron Trilogy Aaron and Mya were gonna ride the roller coaster too but they don't last second, and we know from the book photos in HN2 Mya and Lucy were friends in AS Lore

so something similar to Aaron Trilogy but still different may occur in the AS Timeline

[snow mauve]

Aaron and Mya doesn't know Lucy yeeee in AS

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blast-off-launch-cat-jumping-into-camera-gif-6639037559618288527

[ripe berry]

HN2 is AS timeline yes?

[snow mauve]

BUT

What IFF????

[ripe berry]

one of the photos added to HN2 in Ted's House shows Mya, Lucy Yi, and a (oddly not corrected to be the Game deisgn version of) Maritza

it's not even unused like the Roger Peterson photo

it's IN the game rn, you can check

[snow mauve]

Yeah yeah I know

[snow mauve]

I've been playing it a lot, I know

BUT

WHAT

IF

[ripe berry]

so at the very least Mya and Lucy Yi should know each other

[ripe berry]

I dunno what the consequences of that could be though

[wooden veldt]

Hey

I have a lore question

[crude dew]

I love how chocolate is in the top 3 most iconic HN game items

[safe charm]

Yeah because books story aren’t as unimportant as we think even if they’re not canon anymore

Hn2 still draws a lot from the books even if it’s AS canon

[delicate narwhal]

i think ik the lore but it's long to say

[safe charm]

Like the gaap photo with Mr Peterson feels like something straight out of the books but it’s made for hn2

Heck AS was supposed to use book lore the only reason it didn’t was because the stories didn’t fit animation well enough

They didn’t retcon it because they thought it wasn’t consistent enough(it is inconsistent but so is the AS) or that it was bad

[ripe berry]

and they understood it's not bad

[safe charm]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

as you've mentioned before

they tried their hardest to retcon as little as possible

[snow mauve]

say it

[ripe berry]

(except for some tiny details they may have missed)

[delicate narwhal]

so basically

mr peterson had a family

[unkempt sleet]

books are hello neighbor, AS and HN2 is hello neighbor

[snow mauve]

duh

[unkempt sleet]

so of course they will use things from hello neighbor for hello neighbor

[delicate narwhal]

his wife died in a car accident

[snow mauve]

easy baby stuff

[delicate narwhal]

and his son Arron was crazy and pushed his sister Mya

and idk what else

[unkempt sleet]

But do you know about the Forest Protectors, Raven Brooks' strange weathers, the Crowman and the Hurricane

[delicate narwhal]

nope

[snow mauve]

dude thinks he knows the whole lore..

he lied!!

he fricken lied

I knew it

[ripe berry]

you don't know the whole lore then
you only know the Hello Neighbor 1/Hide and Seek Lore

[safe charm]

Why I think they retconned less then we might think is because John carnage said that they know hn franchise is so important to so many people and they have to get things right

[snow mauve]

I swear bro it's kinda sad

when that's all they have

most people nowadays only know this piece of lore

[safe charm]

Also ever since the books and in hn2 mr peterson is depicted wearing gloves a lot before hide and seek

[delicate narwhal]

ig

[snow mauve]

gloves must be confortable

[ripe berry]

even then you'd notice some weird oddities
like the crow in HNHS Stage 5

[snow mauve]

yuh

[safe charm]

So the guest is a bird man entity thing that’s an urban legend that takes what he thinks people don’t deserve

Forest protectors

Is a cult that want luck and power

Mayak is a weather station that can cause storms

[snow mauve]

and there's more shit

like Lucy YI

[safe charm]

Yeah

[snow mauve]

theo parents

franklin

the coins

just a lot more

[ripe berry]

yep

[ripe berry]

this + the Season 2 Poster aligning Ted's Eye to the Mayak eye and showing they're the same color is what makes me think that Ted's Parents still build the Mayak in the AS Timeline

[safe charm]

Yeah they definitely did

AS lore is just based of the book lore(but changed) and book lore is based on early game lore aka hn1- hide and seek

[ripe berry]

however what I believe they DID change is the time-span the research occured in

[safe charm]

They kept Diane being a teacher something that was established in the books

[snow mauve]

really?

[safe charm]

Yes

[ripe berry]

in the Books the research occurs from like 1960-1965 when Ted is a young kid
in the AS Franklin, who's older then Ted, has no clue his parents built the weather station

[safe charm]

They say it in ep2

[snow mauve]

ohhhh right

[safe charm]

The principal says she was on our board

[ripe berry]

AS Episode 2 says Diane was on the School's Board of Directors or smth along those lines

[snow mauve]

yeah I remember now

[ripe berry]

so I believe
Ted's Parents still build and conduct research in the Mayak
but before/around the time Franklin Peterson is born something makes them stop the research
quite possibly tied to the Pit in Peterson's Stick Together due to the weird hole in the railing

we also know AS Timeline Roger IS still alive during Peterson's Stick Together as Franklin off-handedly mentions his dad early on in the clip

[safe charm]

Btw Don’t you agree they look kinda

Similar

[ripe berry]

kinda?
but it could be due to the same artist for the book reusing the Forest Protector drawing as a template as they're both "Part Man Part Bird"

[safe charm]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

there's still enough differences that I'd say the similarity wasn't intentional

[safe charm]

Do we get any references to previous events in hn2? By looking around act 1 house

For example

[ripe berry]

1984 Safe Code alludes to Bosco Bay
iirc one can find the GAAP Blueprints from HND in Ted's House
GAAP picture shown on the Second Floor
HNHS Stage 5 allusion with the placement of the characters on the Dollhouse

[safe charm]

Wdym stage 5 allusion

[ripe berry]

Mya + Aaron on the Roof with Ted near the Kitchen Area (as he's shown to be in the HNHS Release Trailer during the incident)

also for some reason every house, including Ted's, has a Golden Crow Statue in it

iirc the statues in Ted's House are in the Room under the Staircase and Aaron's Bedroom

not sure what the Gold Crow means but I'm just pointing it out

[safe charm]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

the two places I haven't seen the Golden Crow in are the Library and the School

oh and the Forest too I guess

and the Catacombs too for some reason despite the fact it seems implied the Golden Crow's tied to the Cult in some way

[safe charm]

I wish there was more references to AS stuff

There’s game references

And book references

But AS it’s only the coins mostly

[safe charm]

Also question do you think Ted is truly as evil as we see in season 1 or do you think it’s because of the kids perspective and they imagine him to be more of evil man then he actually is honestly hope the former

[ripe berry]

I personally think it's the latter because he has a motive to do this clearly established

[safe charm]

Also Do you think mayor has killed people and stuff since he’s a cultist

[ripe berry]

maybe

he definitely wanted to kill Ted in Peterson's Stick Together

[safe charm]

Oh yeah

Forgot about that

[ripe berry]

when Franklin died he was all like "no witnesses" or whatever

[safe charm]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

https://youtu.be/3V2KDtPQfUk?si=Tu852eMcWt4qxsaS

[tribal talon]

is that that really a season 2 teaser

[ripe berry]

yeah, it's on the official tinyBuild channel

[silver vine]

You've never played HN2?

[snow mauve]

Read the title smh..

[tribal talon]

so it is?

[snow mauve]

NO

SHIT

Dude

Smh

The obvious answer is right thereeeee

[manic dirge]

Lore guys heh

[snow mauve]

NAHHH

[wooden veldt]

Yeah sorry I was asleep

So here is my question… I play on Xbox and in the description for hello neighbor 2 it says plainly, “Why does this mustached gentleman visit the amusement park every night?” While also having a map on the desk next to the museums entrance?

[safe charm]

Scrapped content

[wooden veldt]

Why do they always change stuff

This is darn confusing

[unkempt sleet]

The description is outdated a bit

[shut hill]

I NEED NEWS

HUNGRY

[safe charm]

Understatement of the century

Troll

[tribal talon]

I found this timeline on Reddit and got deleted (I added some more things here + There are different timelines)
MichaelHuff24 helped me, thanks

Welcome to Raven Brooks S2 Flashback
The Secret of the Bosco Bay
Bad Blood Ch 1-2
Hide & Seek Stage 1
Bad Blood test of the book
Grave Mistakes
Puzzle Master
Missing Pieces Ch 1-15 / memories from Diaries
Hide & Seek Stage 2-3
Missing Pieces Ch 16-17
Hide & Seek Stage 4-5
Missing Pieces rest of the book
Waking Nightmare
Buried Secrets Ch 1-10
S1 ep 1,2,3
WtRB Pilot (before Nicky went missing)
HN1 Act 1 / S1 ep 4
Buried Secrets rest of the book
WtRB Pilot Prologue and Ending
Hello Engineer
S1 ep 5
Secret Neighbor
Search and Rescue
S1 ep 6
HN1 Act 2
S2 ep 1,2
HN2 DLCs
S2 ep 3
HN2 act 1
Layout V2 Video/HN2 act 2 intro
HN2 rest of the game
Raven Brooks Disaster
RBO
HN2 Patch 9
HN2 Alpha 1.5 (if canon)
S2 ep 4
HN1 Act 3/Finale/Neighbor's notebook
Nicky's Diaries
Reset Day
Error World (idk why I add this)

[unkempt sleet]

Oh god

The chaos timeline
Nothing fits nothing

[tribal talon]

xD

And what's the Green Light in the Pre-Alpha House?

[ripe berry]

let me fix the errors in this timeline
(not gonna fix the fact a "everything is canon" timeline is impossible though)

WtRB Episode 4 is occuring side-by-side with Act 1

Episode 5 is between Hello Engineer and Secret Neighbor

[safe charm]

Well not impossible it could work but only with something like time loops

Or different universes

[ripe berry]

Episode 6 mostly takes place after HNVR, coincides with Act 2

[safe charm]

I wonder if most of hnvr took place when the kids was passed out

The guest stuff

[ripe berry]

then Season 2 Episodes 1-2 occur after this

then the HN2 DLCs (minor spoilers for a Patch 9 Easter Egg: ||Beatrix goes missing as a child and is presumed dead so HG Alpha 1 can't occur in this timeline with HN2 Patch 9 in it||)

then Season 2 Episode 3

then we get HN2 Base Game

then you'd insert the Layout V2 Video
due to the Sound Banks for Patch 9 (the end of HN2 Act 2 according to the files), Ruined Town is before Patch 9

so The Raven Brooks Disaster and RBO occur before/during Patch 9

and the Neighbor's Notebook doesn't occur during Act 1

it occurs after Act Finale

and presumably HND aswell

you know what
Imma map this chaos timeline out as a image

[ripe berry]

HN2 Alpha 1 can't be placed on the timeline due to (not sure if you're aware of the Easter Egg so I'm spoiler tagging anything that talks about it ||having the Clipboard asset which has a ADULT Beatrix||

oh, and according Alex Season 2 Episode 4 is occuring around the Time of Act 3 (but a bit before it)

[ripe berry]

nvm

[spark tulip]

my honest reaction:

[ripe berry]

Alpha 1.5 can be placed if you want to assume Quentin's either 50 (For him to experience the Halloween Incident to remember it in Alpha 1.5) or have some form of interest in a Decades old Case for some reason

[ripe berry]

that sticker basically has written them into a corner
||Beatrix has to be alive for the Sticker, but it's very clear she's meant to be dead/missing since she was a child||

[safe charm]

How can a child own a van though

[spark tulip]

this sticker means Beatrix is alive and is an adult

[safe charm]

Did she get found

[spark tulip]

obviously

[safe charm]

Then i guess

I wonder if we will see her at all

[spark tulip]

or it's an oversight

guess we'll see

[ripe berry]

I mean it's a sticker
nothing says Child Beatrix didn't just draw that or smth

now if it was a actual picture of the Van it'd be different

[safe charm]

I wonder if gn2 guest is any different from current guest

[spark tulip]

maybe

[ripe berry]

but it's not a actual picture, so we can't say for certain this means Beatrix is a adult during HN2

[safe charm]

Also if you wanna count gn2 as even semi canon then the hn2 storm has to be the gn2 one because in gn2 people who lived in rb their whole life

Says its the Worst storm and they never seen anything like it

[ripe berry]

I group that in for correcting this chaotic timeline (that in no way can be real but I'm not going to correct them on the impossibility of the timeline)

and before you say "Cell Phones Cell Phones date it after HN2!"

[safe charm]

But at the end of gn2 doesnt everything return to normal?

[ripe berry]

then by that logic WtRB Episode 1 is after HN2

[tribal talon]

Thx MichaelHuff24

[safe charm]

Or does the citizens move away from raven Brooks?

[ripe berry]

I'm not sure
but even then we only see like 1 or 2 houses

it's possible some houses weren't affected by the storm as badly as others

[ripe berry]

np (althought Layout V2 is between HN2 Acts 1 and 2, and will likely even be the intro to Act 2)

[safe charm]

To me it almost feels like theres a time skip in hn2