At this point man
#lore-discussion
safe charm
teal imp
ye no this shit dont make sense
strange lance
There is no confusion
Everything except hn2 is the original definitive lore
I do not care what Alex says about the AS and Hn2
They are incredibly inconsistent with each other and themseleves. They're unreliable
"Definitive version" suuuure
You keep saying that
But it's just not true
languid geyser
would you called the animated series a distorted memory?
tacit wagon
AS is not the canon, it’s an AU
Books and AS are AUs
Books are likely still more canon since HNVR is a thing
languid geyser
oh. thank you for the answer.
languid geyser
Books are likely still more canon since HNVR is a thing
if the books are AUs then it doesnt make sense for them to make the books in the first place.
it adds nothing if an AU.
how does that makes any sesne.
yall didnt know the books could be cannon untill hnvr was released?
that's kinda wild to me.
bleak spear
the person in the prologue to bad blood is ike right?
shell gull
The New AU Canon yes because the Original is retired.
languid geyser
it being an AU make it too confusing.
all you can go off is only with 2 HN games now.
and hello neighbor 1 doesn't count.
strange lance
It’s the main thing now
No it is not
We are still getting original lore content
Once that stops then the AS will be the main thing
shell gull
Not AU really tbh
shut hill
and hello neighbor 1 doesn't count.
Ehh not necessarily
The start of Nicky stalking Peterson could have been him playing soccer and hearing screams
But he could have just not went in at first
safe charm
There isn’t any specification on if it didn’t or did happen
And Nicky could be hiding things I think there’s a possibility of Aaron and Nicky
Still being friends
He just hasn’t told his friends
shut hill
They could go into that backstory and stuff in season 2 most likely
safe charm
Yeah
shut hill
Also because I’m season 2 we get Trinitys in depth backstory
Instead of
“It’s starting again”
“You’re already snooping again?”
safe charm
Also because I’m season 2 we get Trinitys in depth backstory
Anyways ep6 will be covering sn hnvr(at least elements) and act 2
shut hill
Yea
shut hill
Well it could be different now
He mentioned he was told a while ago
And things could have changed
safe charm
Yeah but also
shut hill
But yeah it’s cool
safe charm
It could be similar
safe charm
But yeah it’s cool
But how can the guest be someone though
Adam said identity
Soooo
shut hill
Yeah
shell gull
Adam said identity
Identity means they are Something, and it’s already cold firmed The Guest is an Entity at the least in AS Canon.
manic dirge
But how can the guest be someone though
the guest was the neighbor at one point
so thats what he was prob told
safe charm
Maybe idk
shell gull
So far Ep 4 ended with Ted being pissed off by the Kids and Kidnaps Nicky to traumatize him since he’s been annoying for a while, Ep 6 will probably try to Interpret VR so all the Kids will get trapped and Traumatized, also Ted is taking the Kids Serious on his end and has just straight up been a Menace and Bullying Trinity for fun, best character so far.
manic dirge
So far Ep 4 ended with Ted being pissed off by the Kids and Kidnaps Nicky to tra...
he shouldve said "i can eat suger you cant" sometime when he was at trinitys house
shell gull
he shouldve said "i can eat suger you cant" sometime when he was at trinitys hou...
Vector did it for us
And even better
manic dirge
Vector did it for us
yea
shell gull
manic dirge
lol
silver vine
yes for the old lore, act 1 is completely real
even the books solidify that statement by having Nicky box stack
but as of AS, act 1 is a distorted memory as well
dull smelt
Oh yes, the boxes, the most canon thing of all canon in hello neighbor
somber wigeon
I have a question, does the finale act of S&R take place in guest world?
snow mauve
I have a question, does the finale act of S&R take place in guest world?
Eh kinda
But yeah
somber wigeon
thanks
shell gull
but as of AS, act 1 is a distorted memory as well
The Interpretation of it yes.
strange lance
Here
safe charm
So in the ending what’s the symbolism of ted behind the door is the door room supposed to symbolize the guest with ted
Stuck Inside his own body
blazing latch
One message removed from a suspended account.
safe charm
💀
strong sparrow
The guest's doing WHAT to peterson...
safe charm
Not that
strange lance
So in the ending what’s the symbolism of ted behind the door is the door room su...
Think of the house as Ted's body.
The attic is his head, it's where ted is trapped, he cannot get out and do anything as he begs for help.
The guest is outside guarding the house, he won't let ted out, he does whatever he wants
It's the possession thing
safe charm
Think of the house as Ted's body.
The attic is his head, it's where ted is tra...
Why does bringing candy make ted
Appear though
strange lance
So Ted is still sentient when possessed he just can't do anything
strange lance
Why does bringing candy make ted
That was just for the guest kid, also it's a halloween update
safe charm
That was just for the guest kid, also it's a halloween update
Does anything in alpha 1 imply guest possession
Or ted being guest body
strange lance
I guuesss with the right stuff you could get Ted back in control for a bit? Guest kid (guest) is lured with candy and then he kinds gives out to the floor and ted appears asking for help
strange lance
Does anything in alpha 1 imply guest possession
No
Alpha 1 was HG chapter
There was no possession at that time
safe charm
What In 1.5 was guest kid role was he representing the guest
strange lance
That whole alpha was weird
safe charm
Guarding mr Peterson behind the door
Not letting him out?
That’s how I understood it at least
safe charm
That whole alpha was weird
Btw did guest possession happen automatically once mr Peterson gave in
In gn2
Like was him just giving in the thing that allowed for them to merge
strange lance
Well we don't see what the guest does once he makes ted pass out
But considering how quickly the Guest comes out of the water
With ted's body
I'd say instant
strange lance
Bro I don't know 😭
strange lance
The only time we really see that is in the 1.5 ending where he's all scared and panicy
safe charm
Because I’m literally gonna be a bit angry
If they scrapped that lol
They built it up so much
shell gull
So something that I realised is the Park is shaped as an Eye, referencing The Cult, and also makes sense knowing what’s under it and also who owns the Park is a Cultist.
strange lance
You're now just noticing?😭
teal imp
I wonder who owns it...
certainly not the guy who lives in the big mansion right next to it
inner lichen
The map from the alphas was also shaped like an eye.
safe charm
The map from the alphas was also shaped like an eye.
So totallynotmichael
Who would you chose i asked Many others im qurious to what you would chose
inner lichen
The Guest is 100% a cryptid of some kind.
safe charm
basically, creatures like the loch-ness monster.
But why is he looking like the gaap mascot
You Think
strange lance
We won't know till we know
safe charm
Or maybe the statue was made after him
blazing latch
One message removed from a suspended account.
bleak spear
its def getting better
lapis sonnet
also for ur whole timeline ordeal
AS is the new canon
sorry but its true
the games are canon to the AS, before we would say things like "only hn2 is"
but now they are redoing SN to fit hn2
and alex confirmed hn1 is also now new lore
HE is just
engineer\
and hnvr we dont really know
because we could just say that it's a distorted memory and is part of AS like what alex did with hn1
but the whole guest thing
although we havent learned what the guest is yet so we will just have to wait
shell gull
AS is the new canon
Your the first person who hasn’t realised this but they already have shown they are Re-Interperating the Games to add to AS Story and for the Future Pipeline to fit a bit with the Past Games still, SN isn’t getting redone they are only Updating for Content, HE is still Old Lore Always has been and is completely forgotten in AS because they didn’t know how to interpret it, HNVR isn’t even AS in any way other than a rough Interpretation for it, The Games except SN after this Update and HN2 (Since they are Two of the Biggest Games why not have them changed entirely for AS) are Old Lore, they are simply Interpreting those Games to fit, Alex said HN1 is AS as in a Interpretation, you can literally see how far off the Story is with Each Game, they are simply making their own retelling of those Games so future Pipeline Projects and also so the New Pipeline will somewhat connect with Past Games, and also to ensure a Story for AS and to somewhat connect, in Short there are the Games apart of Old Lore, and then the AS Interpretation of those Games.
shell gull
You're now just noticing?😭
Ey my bad, but it is a nice detail to connect.
inner lichen
and alex confirmed hn1 is also now new lore
wdym HN1 is new lore
are you talking about the HN1 remake or
snow mauve
and alex confirmed hn1 is also now new lore
What
That shit has been retconned for good
Every games except HN2 are all retconned
And AS is sorta does this by using the games story and making them in a different narrative
Like for example, Episode 6 is mixed with Act 2/SN/HNVR all together
Just making it 1 whole thing
Instead of it being a separate part of the story
snow mauve
and hnvr we dont really know
HNVR is pretty much kinda used in AS but missing out many important lore stuff from the original lore
thin wadi
HNVR is just the AS except the kids have better personality and also Quentin isn't there
thin wadi
AS personality sucks
Ik
snow mauve
I like both of them
snow mauve
Oh yeah Ted for sure
He is a whole another level
Of peak
With such great voice acting
snow mauve
because we could just say that it's a distorted memory and is part of AS like wh...
I don't think it is a distorted memory for AS, cuz trinity's parents also noticed the act 3 house and can see it
thin wadi
With such great voice acting
The voice acting in question
snow mauve
The voice acting in question
snow mauve
although we havent learned what the guest is yet so we will just have to wait
We pretty much do know with a few stuff in patch 9's teasers
Like the guest is now some cultist leader when wearing his cloak outfit
And the cultists are praising him
As some god cuz he's like some ancient curse or whatever shit
strange lance
she's smaller than the couch 😭
thin wadi
She is not 14
strange lance
why is he drawn like that 💀
thin wadi
On the wiki it said 14
snow mauve
Ain't no way
thin wadi
Well the wiki is outdated
snow mauve
😭
thin wadi
And unreliable
snow mauve
/hj
thin wadi
I have not touched the wiki in like a year
snow mauve
Right
thin wadi
I have not seem him do anything other than that
thin wadi
I like his quirky/awkward self he is
I do like how quirky he is
snow mauve
I have not seem him do anything other than that
(Actually helping out unlike Maritza)
snow mauve
I cannot wait for this movie
thin wadi
Hello Neighbor live action when-
snow mauve
Hello Neighbor live action when-
Hello neighbor fan made movie
languid geyser
Hello Neighbor live action when-
when the time is right?
inner lichen
tomorrow (the 26th) is the SN update.
Right after is the FNaF movie, and then AS Episode 6, and a Patch 9 trailer.
thin wadi
The 4 things I was looking forward to this month
-SN update
-Patch 9
-Slender the arrival remaster
-FNAF movie
All in one month its crazy
thin wadi
Even if its bad I still will like it
snow mauve
From what I heard
The movie is actually pretty good
It will have some sad, spooky, and funny moments
And there will for sure be lots of jumpscares that you will most likely won't expect
thin wadi
Its a movie based off of a video game, so automatically my expectations will be pretty low
snow mauve
It will have some sad, spooky, and funny moments
(Also some brutal moments that show off camera but the sound design is great from what I also heard)
thin wadi
Its a movie based off of a video game, so automatically my expectations will be ...
It auto corrected automatically to automobile and then corrected that to the 🚘 emoji 💀
snow mauve
Lmao
ripe berry
lol
manic dirge
It auto corrected automatically to automobile and then corrected that to the 🚘 ...
lmfao
lapis sonnet
Your the first person who hasn’t realised this but they already have shown they ...
i see what u mean, although i do think multiple games other than hn2 are new lore
like i think the whole SN update is to really nail it in that SN is new lore
which doesnt change anything story wise
at all
subtle turret
I cannot wait for this movie
#off-topic please
lapis sonnet
since SN has little to no story
and hn2 is new lore
but i will say hn1 is still supposedly gonna get a remake
maybe
if it does it will be to fit new lore
lapis sonnet
I don't think it is a distorted memory for AS, cuz trinity's parents also notice...
ah thats true
again, hn1 remake
lapis sonnet
im just comparing it to what TB has been doing
bc atp hn1 remake is just an idea
they have
so they could change it at literally any time since they havent started making it
shell gull
i see what u mean, although i do think multiple games other than hn2 are new lor...
Agreed but you have to also realise that they’ve only been focusing to change HN2 and SN since they are the two biggest games of the Franchise.
ripe berry
HNHS needs literally 0 changes to work in New Lore atm so it maks sense why that gam ain't being changed
Ivan seems to survive AS Episode 6 so HE can happen sometime after AS Ep. 6 nd Nicky just didn't wanna join them for some reason
and HN1 they can just come up with a sh*t distorted memory excuse or make ti therapy or smth
teal imp
Ivan seems to survive AS Episode 6 so HE can happen sometime after AS Ep. 6 nd N...
HE is clearly before act 2
silver vine
HE is just
Alex told that AS will cover HE as well
silver vine
Your the first person who hasn’t realised this but they already have shown they ...
HE is getting interpreted in the AS
Alex told that in twitter
we just have to wait and see
safe charm
HE is getting interpreted in the AS
Do you think we will get any hints to what the guest is in ep6 alex said in his twitter post
teal imp
not this thread
safe charm
The concept of the guest will be in introuduced in AS
And we already seen the guest before so it’s not an introduction to the guest character far from it
And we know he doesn’t mean ep7 because he said AS first than hn2
silver vine
we'll see
safe charm
It would be cool if we got some kind of breadcrumb dialogue from one of the characters etc
Because guest is an urban legend
thin wadi
Do you think we will get any hints to what the guest is in ep6 alex said in his ...
But he did not mention HNVR
So is HNVR definitely a different story guest wise?
safe charm
He probably didn’t
thin wadi
Not exactly going to say old lore and new lore because I'm specifically talking about guest lore not lore as a whole
thin wadi
HNVR guest is peak
thin wadi
I hope so
safe charm
Still wanna know his origin though
thin wadi
Find mentally unstable people weaken them so he can get more powerful. We see him try to do this to Regina is GN2 aswell
safe charm
Like where the guest came from
thin wadi
Regina doesn't however
silver vine
you can think whatever you want
thin wadi
Man the character development with Pris and Regina in GN2 was good. And there the Ted arc where he's evil but still has good inside him because he was able to listen to Regina, but ultimately the guest won power over him. Such a good story
GN2 is what the AS should have been
safe charm
But anyways it’s still weird how Alex keep mentioning who the guest is
Like he’s a person
thin wadi
Creature >> boring person in a mask
thin wadi
Well layout 2
Also don't think a human can make clicks and croaks like the guest
safe charm
Creature >> boring person in a mask
I mean Alex did say the guest lore STARTED to make no sense
Maybe he meant gn2 guest
Before that it was ted in a suit
thin wadi
I mean Alex did say the guest lore STARTED to make no sense
Alex does not know 😔
It did make sense
It made sense to me at least
safe charm
There’s this tiny club thing I can’t post here where ||guest runs in a forest||
He looks like a dude in a suit can’t lie
strange lance
Tip for devs. If your story starts to "make no sense" how about you just clarify upon it in your next games 😃
You know
Like normal devs do
Instead of scrapping everything
safe charm
Honestly it seems like guest person in a suit made sense but not entity
To Alex
That’s what I get
thin wadi
They were able to explain things well in the books they could have easily conveyed things in the games
Like HNVR
That game is peak
strange lance
Alex is NOT the creator he shouldn't have had any opinion on the story
He is meant to publish this game and that is it
He was not supposed to get this incolved
strange lance
The one where he is running?
safe charm
They were able to explain things well in the books they could have easily convey...
Anyways do you like mouseflash
Believe guest started as a shapeless blob
thin wadi
Anyways do you like mouseflash
What
Oh
Yeah I believe his theory
I mean it seems that way in GN2 aswell
thin wadi
I think the town of raven brooks has something about it
There was always something evil in the town
From the very beginning
Before petersons
Its why the weather was weird too
That evil energy couldn't do much
But it found mr Peterson the perfect host
It took the form of the guest, the park mascot
Because Ted built it
And slowly got more powerful and more control to the point he could go in physical
And then full control in GN2
safe charm
Did guest first possess ted
In gn2 in your opinion
Like or do you think he’s done it before
safe charm
And slowly got more powerful and more control to the point he could go in physic...
I don’t completely understand how guest possessed him ngl because isn’t he physical
How can he just enter ted lol
thin wadi
I think its like an evil crow energy
Crow demon ish
And decided to take the form of the guest
Since its a bird anyway
safe charm
So did guest basically posses him like in ghost stories you think just entered him literally
thin wadi
Also how did it get in him? Idk people get possessed all the time
It just happens
Wait no
That sounds weird
thin wadi
People get possed all the time in ghost stories and religions*
Because some people don't believe in ghosts/possession
safe charm
So didn’t guest get caught in the explosion
thin wadi
But like in actual cultures and religions people get possessed by bad spirits or demons
safe charm
How did he survive lmao
safe charm
But like in actual cultures and religions people get possessed by bad spirits or...
Do you think alpha 1.5 ending symbolizes the possession
safe charm
Ik
thin wadi
And also he could have just phased into the best right before the explosion
safe charm
Anyways
snow mauve
Alright let's talk about the FNAF Mov-
safe charm
And also he could have just phased into the best right before the explosion
It feels like guest was more like a ghost in old lore before taking over ted
He just phased in and out
Of existence
safe charm
Not literally
strange lance
He's a blob with his own dimension
The only thing we saw him phase through was a wall underwater
And he literally was the water
Really cool abilities
Peak art
Look how his hood is formed from the water
Actually he didn't phase through the wall at all
He just formed from the water
strange lance
You've always been drinking him
shell gull
Maybe hnvr is a mix
It isn’t, in VR Ted just straight up ran away, in AS we see he’s fighting beforehand.
shell gull
HNVR is canon to AS..
Idk
snow mauve
Like bro that shit is retconned
shell gull
Like bro that shit is retconned
Yeah…
snow mauve
Plus it's all a coincidence
It doesn't have anything lore related to HNVR
All you'll get in ep6
Is 4 kids break into the act 3 house
Get abused from Ted's traps
And save Nicky
Then Ted just fight and runs away i guess
Also Aaron exists i guess without any purpose
Just a plot device
shell gull
Just a plot device
Exactly, while in VR it was all the Kids in SN, they break into the House that isn’t Act 3 House, they had been planning to break in for a while even scouting out and having a Hide Out at Nicky’s House just like in Old SN, they get Trapped, Aaron Deals with The Guest, saves the Kids, Guest betrays him and drags him into the Deep Nest.
snow mauve
Exactly
Plus what's crazy
Is that trinityyy believes it is canon
All because the title of the episode
Is called "Search and Rescue"
Like that means nothing
shell gull
All because the title of the episode
Yeah doesn’t make much sense at all.
shell gull
Like that means nothing
They only used the Title to reference VR and also since they are Interpreting it in AS that Episode.
shell gull
Might not be final
True
shell gull
HNVR is canon
Mhm
snow mauve
Trinityyy (Guestyyy)
He really overthink it
Like it's clearly
Not canon at all
Plus most of the shit will be different
Than hnvr had
What?
No?
You can say dumbass
Shit
Wow
It took you months..
To finally realize that..
What?
No..
Bro what the hell are you even saying
Like most of the stuff you're texting just confuses me a lot
Please don't.. this just confuses me and other people
You sure?
Alright then
Lmao
Mb
It always does
Like HN always makes the best soundtrack
In every game
Same
I'm not really sure
There's so many
Great soundtracks
In hn2
I just like each one
But as of now
I like the Museum's ambience
Yes
I know what you mean
lapis sonnet
Agreed but you have to also realise that they’ve only been focusing to change HN...
yeah true
lapis sonnet
Alex told that AS will cover HE as well
he did?
shell gull
Apparently the SN Mayak Event is different in the New Update?
lapis sonnet
Apparently the SN Mayak Event is different in the New Update?
can someone verify this because im curious but im def not doing allat
shell gull
can someone verify this because im curious but im def not doing allat
I’m pretty sure all they did is remove the Purple Lightning
Idk what significants that gives for AS
ripe berry
huh
They took out the Purple Lightning?
Are they just trying to expand the properties of the Purple Storms to all storms in General?
or do they just not like the color Purple or smth?
no wait I'm looking too far they just took out the lightning
not the entire storm color
snow mauve
I’m pretty sure all they did is remove the Purple Lightning
WHAT
glacial whale
Maybe a bug?
shell gull
It used to look like this
Ah
ripe berry
So they actually removed th purple from the storm
safe charm
So they actually removed th purple from the storm
Hn devs trying to not make it impossible for fans
To solve their lore impossible
ripe berry
Again maybe theyre just trying to move the properties to just be in storms in general instead of specifically purple storms
safe charm
Again maybe theyre just trying to move the properties to just be in storms in ge...
Yeah
sage obsidian
Another Mayak event?
It's normal mayak, but now it looks horrible
steady nest
slow cape
snow mauve
1234
shell gull
Ok so based on Ep 6, it seems The Guest is most likely Aaron, shown by the dead Crows that The Guest was eating in the Basement, it also makes sense that Ted is trying to contain Aaron, now based on the end it seems that The Cult and The Guest are both using the Coins as ways to hold power on people, along with it giving Bad Luck, still unclear what Ted is doing with them, now based on HN2 Tapes and Old Tapes it seems that Aaron ended up being used as a ritual device, they put the Curse of The Guest in him turning him into The Guests Host, and Ted had to contain him, and is looking to use the Coins to help him, while also keeping him safe.
safe charm
Ok so based on Ep 6, it seems The Guest is most likely Aaron, shown by the dead ...
Amazing theory
Maybe the cult kidnapped Aaron before AS
And made him contain guest
Than maybe mr Peterson got him back idk
shell gull
Amazing theory
Thank you, I think it’s highly possible it’s the case, it also explains why Ted got so worried when he lost Aaron, knowing his own safety is in danger with The Curse on him.
strange lance
they're stating facts
the episode might've been good
but it doesn't connect to any game
shell gull
it doesnt even connect to hn2
Remember not everything connects just wait and see, HN2 is the only semi game for AS.
strange lance
at all
teal imp
but it doesn't connect to any game
if it did I wouldnt be upset
but it threw all of that out the window
shell gull
Listen all we know is that these things are connecting points of HN2 that’s why we have to just watch.
safe charm
but it doesn't connect to any game
Thank goodness because this is peaker I pray patch 9 make hn2 fit this
teal imp
and the fact people are shittalking me just makes me feel worse
safe charm
☺️
shell gull
and the fact people are shittalking me just makes me feel worse
I mean to be fair you’ve just been yapping
silver vine
can anyone explain to me how AS connects to HN2
shell gull
Ok so based on Ep 6, it seems The Guest is most likely Aaron, shown by the dead ...
It’s also highly possible that this explains HN2 Nightmare 3, Ted is collecting coins to help Aaron, Nightmare 3 The Crow Statue (that represents The Guest) is filled with Coins.
teal imp
can anyone explain to me how AS connects to HN2
it doesnt
unless patch 9 changes the entire story
shell gull
can anyone explain to me how AS connects to HN2
S2 Probably, Ted escapes Prison, runs back, finds Aaron and tries to escape, Quentin pulls up.
Leading to The Kids going back to the Ted hunt
And Cult
Aaron is Cursed with The Guest Curse.
teal imp
didnt alex say hn2 is between ep 6 and 7....
shell gull
Leading to what happens next after HN2, Aaron prob rampages, Turns into Guest.
shell gull
didnt alex say hn2 is between ep 6 and 7....
Yup
So prob Ep 7
Also Ep 8
From what I remember
Well at least the Start of HN2
shell gull
Leading to what happens next after HN2, Aaron prob rampages, Turns into Guest.
Leading with Quentin dealing with The Guest, and kids on Mayak.
teal imp
whats the point of watching the AS if it doesnt even connect to the lore
all it did so far was contradict
everything
safe charm
whats the point of watching the AS if it doesnt even connect to the lore
Because it’s good
Imo
silver vine
whats the point of watching the AS if it doesnt even connect to the lore
you have to sacrifice somethings if you want to make a good cartoon
teal imp
I wouldnt mind it if alex said its an AU
but alex keeps saying its the same story
when they literally contradict eachother
the games seem like their own timeline at this point
frank star
Leading to what happens next after HN2, Aaron prob rampages, Turns into Guest.
AARON the GUest?! Nooo!
shell gull
AARON the GUest?! Nooo!
Most likely yeah.
frank star
NOOOOO
snow mauve
Question is
How the hell does that work
Like a child working with grown adult cultists?
Not to mention how tall he is
snow mauve
So what was aaron doing at the end exactly
Escaping
And then we see the guest leaving a coin
To trinity
And from my understanding
Episode 7 will be about
Some of the kids
Following the guest
In the forest
Then they see Mayak
Which that's where ep7 takes place
thin wadi
To trinity
They kill Trinity! Finally no more AS-
snow mauve
They kill Trinity! Finally no more AS-
NO!
frank star
Nicky was so shaken up. Wasnt he down there for not that long even
thin wadi
Like in reset day isnt she dead
frank star
days i think
frank star
wow
snow mauve
Like in reset day isnt she dead
Retconned buddy
A little reminder
All books are retconned
Same with most of the games
teal imp
Imma just look at the AS as its own timeline at this point]
who cares what alex says
he is just wrong
snow mauve
whatever you say
teal imp
he said ep 6 was gonna tie into hn2 which it did the opposite
frank star
All books are retconned
If it means we get the definitive story now i think thats fine
just please
dont make aaron the guest
snow mauve
If it means we get the definitive story now i think thats fine
It is
snow mauve
Cuz can you imagine
Aaron
Working with grown adult cultists
And his height being that tall
snow mauve
Aaron`s room had some weird shit
Cultist stuff
wooden whale
I think, that Reset Day can connect all games, books, comics and tv show. I think that because of Neighbor’s Reset Day we have different Guests, different timelines and different events
After HN, Ted tried to make things right, so he found out about Reset Day. And after that the universe started to go a little down
For example. He tried to save Mya. But this thing can only happen in the (for example) universe of the TV-Show
Maybe, the plot of the TV-Show and HN2 doesn’t really matter, and there’s something bigger going on there
Because of that, in comics, HG and books, Ted is the Guest
But in the another one he isn’t
thin wadi
So basically you're saying,, the lore just got spider versed 😭
He broke the canon and now there's different dimensions with slightly altered timelines?
No wonder each game has its own artsyle, its because its a different dimension just like spider verse 
safe charm
No wonder each game has its own artsyle, its because its a different dimension j...
Yeah no but Aaron might be the guest host
Or something at least in AS
Doubt he’s completely the guest but maybe he’s his host
thin wadi
Yeah no but Aaron might be the guest host
"Who do you think you are, really?.."
"My name is Aaron Peterson, I was taken by the cult and turned into the guest. I think you know the rest, jerk!"
tribal talon
Can you download SN from its website or no
safe charm
"Who do you think you are, really?.."
"My name is Aaron Peterson, I was taken b...
Well there’s a teaser where the kids ask Nicky
thin wadi
Can you download SN from its website or no
On the website you can press the links that take you to its download sites?
safe charm
Did you know what really happened to him down there
thin wadi
But you can't download it directly from the website
tribal talon
Damn
I can’t get it on Steam either…
I wonder if I can get the HN License one day
So I can make an HN Fighting Game
ripe berry
Did you know what really happened to him down there
Nicky's saying it and the line is actually
"I mean you have no idea what really happened there... to him..."
vale fjord
so has Aaron ecscaped in the show? or was that The Crow?
tribal talon
It can’t be the crow tbh
hazy slate
his ehad ain't Aaron shaped because of those bags
It's Aaron, But he wasn't a wearing a bag
he had visible ears
ripe berry
oh yeah
silver vine
he said ep 6 was gonna tie into hn2 which it did the opposite
(just watch how ep7 is gonna explain how it ties)
safe charm
ep 6 literally contradicts everything
Actually it doesn’t mr Peterson escaped jail plus
teal imp
hell Aaron shouldnt even be with his dad
silver vine
Ep6 explains why Quentin doesn’t have Aaron in his
*Nicky
safe charm
I misremembered
teal imp
sounds like a whole lot of copium
silver vine
yes
safe charm
I wonder how Theo found Aaron again
Do you think guest was held in the basement alongside Aaron
Many thinks
That
teal imp
guys the AS is its own timeline
what are you on about
alex said ep 6 was gonna tie in with hn2
safe charm
Nope
strange lance
I'm seeing a lot of people say ted escapes jail when like, that hasn't been confirmed at all
silver vine
I'm seeing a lot of people say ted escapes jail when like, that hasn't been conf...
HN2 has to happen
so
he most likely escaped
also, its Peterson
teal imp
the timeline of events is all messed up
silver vine
you cant contain him forever
teal imp
the cops are absent
the act 3 house is gone
the cops randomly show up again
it doesnt make sense at all
saying its the same timeline is just pure copium at this point
strange lance
So you're telling me. Ted went to jail for some weeks, because reminder trinity has talks with ted while he is still in jail, Aaron just stays around the house, ted escapes at some point somehow and then hn2 happens.
Deapite alex saying ep6 ties into hn2. Which it doesn't at all
teal imp
like if you think about it for more than 10 seconds everything falls apart
teal imp
So you're telling me. Ted went to jail for some weeks, because reminder trinity ...
gotta agree with mouseflash here
strange lance
Or maybe you just nees to accept that the AS isn't connected to hn2 at all and never will be
safe charm
Yawn
strange lance
Because Alex sucks at telling stories
safe charm
AS is peak though
strange lance
Something being good does not excuse it from having a jaw dropping amount of inconsistencies with the supposed game it's "directly connected to"
safe charm
Ep6 was actually really good
And did we get any hints about the guest?
Because I’m confused was he held in the basement
strange lance
Also. Act 3 is real now. Like we see that it is actually real. Ted built that. Yet it'z still act 1 in hn2, how are you gonna make it act 3 in the AS but act 1 in hn2. What did ted tear it all down with a wrecking ball after he escaped jail for an hour and then kidnap Aaron
safe charm
Along with Aaron or something
safe charm
Also. Act 3 is real now. Like we see that it is actually real. Ted built that. Y...
I don’t care anymore I’m just seeing we’re it’s going
It’s there story
strange lance
I'm seeing a lot of people here just say "I don't care anymore" which is not a good mindset to have at all. If you expect everything to head in a good direction you will always be heavily disappointed in some capacity
Also are you really a fan of hn if you don't care about one if it's most important parts being it's story and lore
That's like
What made hn so popular
Besides the bugs
safe charm
Also are you really a fan of hn if you don't care about one if it's most importa...
I am
I do care about the lore
But why just complain all the time when Ik nothing will change anyways
strange lance
Because there are reasons to complain
How are you going to put out a tv show meant to connect it to the games
And then lie about it constantly
And have almost nothinf to connect to the games at all
Of course people will complain
And not say "I don't care lol!"
That shows people care
safe charm
But twisted egg constantly complains
Too much sometimes
Like we get it you don’t need to repeat yourself 6 times
strange lance
How about you like
Ignore him
Like how I ignore vector crapping on old hn2
It's like
Really easy lmao
strange lance
Still incredibly annoying
silver vine
I feel like evantually we are gonna get an explanation as to how everything connects
strange lance
"Mayak will make everything make sense!"
silver vine
like how we just got an explanation for HN1 acts 1 and 2
strange lance
I somehow doubt that
silver vine
Nicky had a bag on his head the whole time, thats why act 2 is very different from his perspective
strange lance
We did not get an explanation for act 1 and 2. We already HAD one from Nikita. Alex is just rewriting existing lore and I am not for it
If he had just said
AS was it's own thing
I would be completely fine
Honestly I would not care what the AS did
If he just says it's it's own universe
Because it so clearly is
It's so vastly different from hn2 as well
silver vine
We did not get an explanation for act 1 and 2. We already HAD one from Nikita. A...
yes he did rewrite the act 1 to be a distorted memory, but, act 2 was always a distorted memory
until now we never saw a solid reality of how act 2 happened
so, act 2 isnt that much rewritten
strange lance
We did in hnvr. It literally shows what happens.
Aaron frees Nicky from the room, Aaron is taken, Act 2 intro begins, Nicky flees from the cellar door ans goes to his friends at his house, act 2 ends
silver vine
Aaron breaking the window and escaping is still there
silver vine
We did in hnvr. It literally shows what happens.
Aaron frees Nicky from the roo...
Aaron never broke any windows in HNVR
thats one retcon
strange lance
That point got retconned in the original lore
silver vine
now it got reretconned in AS
strange lance
It doesn't matter for the original anymore
Since Aaron was the one who originally burned down the house. But then they realized oh lets keep it, and lets also kill Aaron
So they did that
silver vine
also, Quentin appears in AS
safe charm
Welp I might buy hn2 on pc as well because it will probably take awhile for consoles
silver vine
also, Quentin appears in AS
so, HN2 does happen
safe charm
Idk if i will yet
silver vine
which means Peterson does escape to the museum with Aaron
thats why I think AS ep7 will explain HN2 intro
strange lance
Well of course it happens tinycrow but I can assure you it will not be how hn2 describes it at all lmao
It will 100% be different in some way
Every AS event is
It cannot be consistent
strange lance
The state?
safe charm
Well the authorities or something idk
strange lance
Raven brooks is it's own little world ain't no outside authority is coming in to tear down just the extensions of his house but leave his normal house intact, and also rebuild it to make it look like the original, and also not do anything with ted
Raven brooks people I guess are really just dumb. They're all fine with act 3 being real
You see if they had kept the whole
Every citizen has super wacky houses
It would fit in
silver vine
Every AS event is
the difference is, every AS event so far is explained as a distorted memory by the kids
while HN2 is 100% real
so, Idk about that
but since Quentin does come to the town and HN2 happens, its clear to me that Ted escapes to the museum and locks up Aaron even in the AS
strange lance
Ngl I think that's just an excuse to be inconsistent. At least with hn1 Nicky had been dealing with ted for over a year that point, and had built up so much ptsd that all his tramau built up into the towering houses that are act 2 and 3. But now act 3 is just you know real. Like ted built that ok. Act 2 is also like not real anymore it's just the act 3 house now. And every character also gets ptsd and tramau in a few weeks yeah ok
AS's writing is so garbage
It took the important things like act 3 and completely ruined it's meaning
wooden whale
Sorry. I meant, “if he wanted to save Mya”
silver vine
Ngl I think that's just an excuse to be inconsistent. At least with hn1 Nicky ha...
I actually agree that its just an excuse to be inconsistent
but
the point is
you gotta sacrifice some things to make a good cartoon
ep 4 5 6 where actually really good
strange lance
That's true they are good
teal imp
AS was it's own thing
it should be
teal imp
But twisted egg constantly complains
because I actually care
safe charm
because I actually care
I do as well but I don’t constantly complain
I just accept things move on
teal imp
you gotta sacrifice some things to make a good cartoon
it would have been ok if they just like had it be an AU
no one would be complaining
silver vine
it stills kinda fits tho
silver vine
HN1 Acts 1 and 2 are explained as distorted memories
teal imp
but it just doesnt make sense with the games
teal imp
the absence of Delroy and Finch is often ignored
silver vine
Delroy joins the gang in ep7
teal imp
Delroy joins the gang in ep7
thats after all the shit in sn and hnvr
silver vine
it explained act 2
teal imp
like it doesnt tie in
silver vine
thats after all the shit in sn and hnvr
Alex said that SN goes on till ep9
teal imp
hnvr still
silver vine
yes, the betrayal thing happens in the next three episodes
safe charm
hnvr still
Even if I love hnvr and would like it to be canon It’s just a spin off game at the end of the day
teal imp
I just dont get why people are trying to connect it when it clearly just doesnt connect
silver vine
I just dont get why people are trying to connect it when it clearly just doesnt ...
dude, if you think about it, it actually makes more sense
use your brain
teal imp
I thought about it
it just doesnt make sense
you have to go out of your way to make think of stuff to make it make sense
silver vine
Mayor also says "go BACK to the house" which means they did investigate the house before
explains why theres police stuff in the basement
teal imp
how do we know if thats even translated correctly?
silver vine
explains why Nicky isnt in Quentin's journal
you were ranting about that for sometime before
teal imp
still why would Aaron just go back to the house???
we clearly see him leave
also if the cops search the house twice now they would have found the museum newspaper
the basement is just locked
its like they didnt bother going in it
silver vine
still why would Aaron just go back to the house???
he has no other place to go, so, he goes back to his house
thinking that his dad aint returning
but, he did
teal imp
he has no other place to go, so, he goes back to his house
ok so why doesnt he just go to the cops tho?
teal imp
its implied something is going on with the guest
silver vine
I can feel it, but, I just cant put my finger into it
teal imp
but like its only implied
teal imp
I just dont really think this makes sense
I feel ep 7 is likely gonna contradict all of this
in hnvr the guest and Aaron stuff can sorta be explained
seeing how Aaron wouldnt be able to leave the room he is in without switchting to the guest
bronze oriole
Can anybody explain the crow ? I’ve seen it sm in hn 1+2
ripe berry
Can anybody explain the crow ? I’ve seen it sm in hn 1+2
you means crows in general or the Guest
bronze oriole
you means crows in general or the Guest
I’m kinda new to the game but it’s like a crow mask with blue ish jumper
ripe berry
that's the Guest
bronze oriole
Oh my bad I thought hello neighbour 1 was the game where the camera guy went inside his house in like a ghost town sorta thing
Oh
ripe berry
that's the Guest
From what we know it's some kind of entity that's a manifestation of a curse on the town
ripe berry
Episode 6?
yeah
the coin it gave Trinity is referred to by most as Unlucky Coins due to HNVR
But it seems the Coin in Ep. 6 is actually the exact opposite
Since Trinity has "used up all [her] luck" (Mr. Peterson says so in Episode 6's Ending) the Coin is the only thing giving her luck at this point
bronze oriole
I’m actually excited cuz it said your next and I wonder if it the other kids have got the coin
bronze oriole
Oh okkk
ripe berry
Lemme get a teaser for Episode 7 rq
Episode 7 seems to have the kids trying to put something together involving the Guest
The Coins have a Golden Apple on it and the Guest looks like a Crow after all
and also evidence links the Guest to the Weather Station/"Mayak"
brb, gotta do something rq
bronze oriole
It’s like this one where Dantdm played and the ending is him looking at the neighbour and holding the crow costume
And you gotta go inside a house where the crow chases you
ripe berry
We were discussing Lore in #hello-neighbor a bit ago and Randomuser said the Evidence Marker in the Basement in FG was a leftover from the Beta, well it was moved from where it was in the Beta and the number was changed from either a 2 or a 5 (depending on which of these two Randomuser thinks it is) to a 3
So therefore it is able to be used as evidence since the Devs clearly remembered it exists
and there's no other markers in the basement for it to be
nor are there any number 2 markers in the Beta
ripe berry
therefore this is evidence Ted is a escapee in HN2
teal imp
We were discussing Lore in <#720318918165659779> a bit ago and Randomuser said t...
the basement is locked
the cops didnt even enter it
ripe berry
I know, after the HN2 Intro Ted locked the Basement up
but AS Episode 6 implies Ted is a escapee
as in Ted escaped from Jail
the cops got done collecting evidence after arresting him
teal imp
why would they lock the basement door???
ripe berry
then Ted broke out while the cops were back at the station
ripe berry
why would they lock the basement door???
Look not everything makes sense but it's the most logical conclusion
teal imp
the most logical conclusion is that the AS its own timeline and alex is just wrong
ripe berry
AS Team works on HN2 so at this point there's no logical reason to say the writers are making two different timelines
the SAME writers no less
So Ted locking the Basement Door instead of taking that Newspaper out of the Basement that hints where he's hiding at makes no sense, so what, it doesn't make sense either way since those stupid puzzles are canon if the White Tape is to be believed
Ted's actions in HN2 make no sense regardless of if we try to fit AS in there
But Ted being in Jail for a period of time before HN2 makes HN2 make more sense (again that stupid evidence marker) then if he didn't
and AS has Ted going to Jail
but you were right Alex lied about when HN2 starts
Since he said Episode 7 is before HN2
teal imp
theres no hint of the house being a crime scene in the intro
teal imp
but you were right Alex lied about when HN2 starts
I just think everything alex says needs to be taken with a massive grain of salt
ripe berry
theres no hint of the house being a crime scene in the intro
There's only 3 Evidence Markers that are paper and all of them are out of sight from the intro
teal imp
I think it all makes more sense if you consider the AS its own timeline that has pieces for the games
teal imp
There's only 3 Evidence Markers that are paper and all of them are out of sight ...
no crime scene tape or anything tho
ripe berry
ain't that what I'm doing here? taking a piece of smth from AS and applying it to the games
teal imp
I think it all makes more sense if you consider the AS its own timeline that has...
that way hnvr actually adds onto the guest aaron thing
we see what causes it
in the AS its just random
ripe berry
Also all the Crime Scene Tape stuff is off-screen from the angle we see in the Intro
safe charm
What if ep10 is the only one when they are adults
And all the other episodes is before hn2
teal imp
I still hope they redo the intro man
it just isnt that good
it relies on the player watching the AS
ripe berry
Also all the Crime Scene Tape stuff is off-screen from the angle we see in the I...
other then the ones in the middle of the road which would have to be removed for anyone to drive on that fricking road
teal imp
(if the jail escape theory is to be believed)
we literally cant be sure of anything
the AS so far has no fit into any game
it might aswell be its own timeline
ripe berry
HN2 and AS have the same writers so I don't see why they'd be different timelines
also HN1 Act 1 and the Books
teal imp
HN2 and AS have the same writers so I don't see why they'd be different timeline...
hn2 is in 1996
AS is in 2000s