lore-discussion

[silver vine]

they need evidence

and they stored all the evidence in the museum

[lyric zephyr]

But, to make a Museum
They’d already have evidence

[silver vine]

yes

[lyric zephyr]

So why not use that evidence to show people, rather than than fill a museum w it

[silver vine]

thats why they stored it in the museum

[silver vine]

much easier

[lyric zephyr]

I guess it’s easier to make a 3 story tall cult member statue than it is to just bring your evidence to the Banner or the news in general

The Museum probably was used by the cult tbh, but why even bother w the secrecy of it if you legit have it filled to the brim with cult memorabilia

One of the first rooms you walk into, human sized cult leader painting

[toxic mist]

this was a doozey to figure out but guys....

hear me out

the golden apple coins are totems of bad luck!

crazy right

absurd

[lyric zephyr]

What??? No WAY!!

[toxic mist]

I KnOW

im so smart

[frosty wedge]

Well then if the one of the Roths knew something about it it should be Jay, which really just goes all defensive when talking about Peterson

But he's not cool sharing it at least

The Search & Rescue trailer has some tunnel system, which could be the caves at least

And btw, HOW did you guys get the deluxe detective role?

Didn't find a way to get it

[ripe berry]

Meet the Gordon Cleave

[lyric zephyr]

It's actually the Raven Brooks sewers

Shaped like this except brick

and shallow

[bleak spear]

It was a limited time thing that you could get by submitting a form with proof of deluxe edition purchase.

[shell gull]

It’s Abandoned, It Was Getting Renovated But Before They Could Renovate The Inside, The Keys Got Stolen That’s Why There’s Scaffolding On The Roof.

That’s My Guess

And The Cultists We’re Using It All That Time Since It Was Abandoned But When They Heard The News They Stole The Keys So No One Would Find Out What There Doing

[hasty tapir]

Why Are You Talking Like That

[ripe berry]

He just does

[shell gull]

Imagine In HN2 You Could Go In Sewers And The Guest Would Stalk You There

[silver vine]

ppl say its sewers tho

[ripe berry]

Eh we'll find out whenever HNVR and/or AS Ep. 6 drops

[silver vine]

and

why arent we talking about the fact that the basement is just one room

pretty sure its gonna be a maze in AS

cuz, Alex said that rescue squad saves Nicky and then Nicky saves Aaron

[ripe berry]

Imma check to see if I Could come up with a explanation using what's in HN2

(Mainly if there's board on a wall then say it's just a fake wall, if not then I guess I'll need a new theory)

[unkempt sleet]

Maybe before going to the museum, Ted patched the hole? So even if somebody got to the basement nobody would see the bigger part of it. İdk just speculation

[ripe berry]

Alright no boards on the wall

So how did it get patched up seamlessly

[unkempt sleet]

Idk, Maybe Ted knows how to make walls? İdk again

[lyric zephyr]

He can’t even patch holes in the other parts of his house

Which i still have no idea why they’d be there

[unkempt sleet]

That's true.
İdk how then

[shell gull]

Might be Under The Couch In The Basement Cuz That’s Where The Washing Machine Used To Be

[shell gull]

Cuz it’s old town that’s why In patch 2 houses have scaffolding Cuz all the houses in old town are deteriorated and run down

[lyric zephyr]

No, they’re not in old town. Ted and Nicky’s house are on Friendly Court

[shell gull]

Are you serious 💀 That’s In Old Town 💀

[lyric zephyr]

No??? Since when was friendly court in old town? I’ve never heard that

Like I’ve never heard any say of that

[tribal talon]

friendly court isnt in old town

old town is a short drive away from friendly court

[shell gull]

Oh wait yeah you right, thought friendly court was the street name

[lyric zephyr]

yeah there's like, definitely no lore behind the weird house additions

Just platforming for gameplay's sake

[silver vine]

dude can turn a cheese grater into a telescope

[dry depot]

Is imbirs name actually imbir

[strange flame]

…Yes

[dry depot]

Why the 3 dots there buddy

[strange flame]

Because it just seems so random

Also because the bowl literally has Imbir’s name on it in the demo and possibly the full game

[dry depot]

Yea ok ik it's random I was just thinking about it cause most words in HN1 and 2 are like scrabbled and switched so I was just wondering if that was his actual name

[shell gull]

Thought That During Alpha 2 Times, I Thought His Name Was BIMRIS.

[glacial whale]

Wayron croobian

[dry depot]

Yeah srry

[pale urchin]

Plot explained

[tribal talon]

What is up with the different houses in (hn 1 and hn hs) and (hn 2 and AS)

[tribal talon]

Lol

[tribal talon]

The…what

[manic dirge]

cant get it anymore

[quaint ridge]

What color is the neighbors house I thought it was blue but both the real life house and tv show are not it looks more gray

[silver vine]

it is blue

[quaint ridge]

Oh

I guess it might just be old paint because in the games it looks way more blue

[wicked heath]

real life was just Mr Beast having a moment

[wicked heath]

you call this real life?

2D animations?

[quaint ridge]

No this is the show

I was just showing how it looks more faded then the games

[quaint ridge]

Is this meant to be the neighbors house but with third flour and a thing on the roof

[silver vine]

yes

[quaint ridge]

The layout changes each game

[silver vine]

the layout is the same in HN1, HNHS, SN

[quaint ridge]

Also where were the security windows in the first game

[silver vine]

and kinda the same in HN2

[quaint ridge]

I think they only changed the second floor in hn2

[silver vine]

yes

only the second floor is very different

first floor is kinda the same

[quaint ridge]

And the basement

[silver vine]

also, the house in the cartoon has a third floor just like HNVR

[quaint ridge]

Oh

[silver vine]

but it doesnt have a third floor in HN1, HNHS and HN2

[quaint ridge]

It’s weird because the tv show is before hn2 and most likely hn1 but has a third floor

[wicked heath]

Considering Principal Nabanante appeared on Peterson's board and is DEF a Raven, does that mean Mr. Murtaugh and Gerda are ravens too?

[shell gull]

Who’s Murtaugh, and yes Gerda is a Raven Literally Shown In HN2

[wicked heath]

Didnt we talk about this before?

Other than the key, are there rlly any evidences that shes an fp?

[wicked heath]

that one science dude

[ripe berry]

Yeah

The Science Teacher from AS

[quaint ridge]

Is Mr. Otto a raven

[wicked heath]

probably but who knows

[quaint ridge]

Makes sence

[crude dew]

if you could decide about ONE story becoming and staying canon
(game / books / comics / cartoon -> the possibilities. just one. no mixing. )
which one would you choose and why?

[quaint ridge]

I agree

I’m sad most of them are not cannon

[ripe berry]

Books, with Game lore in a close second

[hazy slate]

books

[frosty wedge]

Yup

The books are amazing

Like seriously

All the games have different layouts, different rooms, and different stuff pointing us to different lore

And don't even get me starting on the cartoon series

Trinity came to Raven Brooks after Nicky??

And lives in the next door house to Mr. Peterson????

Which is red??

This franchise is so messed up

Not in a bad way though

[shell gull]

That’s Why We Have The Full Timeline

[frosty wedge]

Please Stop Talking Like This

[shell gull]

No

[crude dew]

I'd go with the games, because Nikita didn't make any plotholes (at least from what I know)
and idc about the book fillers parts 🥹

[median stirrup]

Probably games yeah

Other than HN2 full release but that's written by the AS writers so I don't count it

[crude dew]

for the games, I meant the original creator's stories :]

[silver vine]

Gerda and Otto are confirmed to be Ravens in HN2

[wicked heath]

did i miss smth?

[silver vine]

yes

[unkempt sleet]

Whats the proof?

[ripe berry]

other then that?

[silver vine]

there are literally pictures of them in the museum

and the museum is entirely about the ravens

[wicked heath]

but is it

[ripe berry]

How would you know if the Missing Trick or Treaters are connected to the Ravens or not

[crude dew]

the crow kid missing just raises more questions

maybe Guest indeed took him and was, like "you are my child now"
(closes him to small dark place)

[lyric zephyr]

I think that straight up all the trick or treaters are long dead

[mighty ember]

and their corpses are on display at the museum

[crude dew]

I think they are
this is where Otto came to the pictur-

[ripe berry]

Their corpses aren't on display at the Museum

this is where Gerda came to the pic-

[crude dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/808724016340795432.png

[manic dirge]

how is gerda and otto confirmed. cuz we all know the mayor is a raven but how is gerda and otto?

[crude dew]

not confirmed, they are on a pinboard in the museum, and there's coins next to them
I think maybe Otto isn't one. he's too crazy, he would start his own cult (Katamaranov that you???)
Gerda probably is cultist

[ripe berry]

What if Otto DID start his own cult

(or, sorry, I mean what if Otto started the Cult?)

[crude dew]

he gathers together with his stuffed gang and they drink something

orange juice, obviously
this is a christian server

[crimson rain]

i wish that the AI had more places that it would be at cuz its really hard to be in the museam

the neighbor is so annoying

[dry depot]

Wrong chat

Go to hello-neighbor

[wicked heath]

Yeah i remember this guy: garlic breath, right?

[unkempt sleet]

Yep, You can

[wicked heath]

well HG isnt canon so...

[unkempt sleet]

Guest is not just from HG though

[crude dew]

https://tenor.com/view/o-lh-well-idk-really-gif-15144181

[quaint ridge]

Am I blind or do we still not know when the next episode is coming

Death was much more brutal

[crude dew]

around spring iirc

my friend, who is a huge horror fan, laughed at this scene. she thought it was made for fun
people don't really die like this..

[median stirrup]

Yeah how did she get.... there

[crude dew]

if a truck hits you, then.....

you know

[median stirrup]

That usually doesn't happen!

[dry depot]

Matpats theories aren't canon cuz they were based off the alpha version of the games and those versions aren't canon so although there is some stuff he said about the lore that still actually applies today most of them aren't true

[strange nacelle]

Guys crashes car and commits child abuse to his son and gets away with it

[dry depot]

HN franchise in a small review

[lyric zephyr]

Actually!
I have been informed by my lawyers to not continue this sentence

[lapis sonnet]

AGREED! I might be late to the convo but OH MY GOD the books are peak.

[quaint ridge]

The books are great I loved reading them but sadly not cannon

[lapis sonnet]

the cartoon is totally seperate story-wise to the games because its basically retconning the whole thing, so think of it as a seperate timeline (trinity is across the street instead of nicky so its kinda obvious)

[lapis sonnet]

why? it kinda fits into the games

theres small differences like nicky gets locked in the basement at night instead of day, suttle stuff like that

the books just expand on the game lore

so whys it not canon??

[quaint ridge]

It’s looking like tinybuild is going to start making the games look like the show like both be and the show have 3 floors

By be I meant vr

Auto correct

3 floors in the act 1 house

[lapis sonnet]

in vr game and cartoon?

[quaint ridge]

Yes

[lapis sonnet]

weird

whyd the vr game be connected to the cartoon if its a game?!

whatever

[quaint ridge]

But then again the upstairs changes almost every game

At least the layout

[lapis sonnet]

true

also theres a chance the 3rd floor will be canon to the games bc being lowkey

if you dig around theirs hard evidence they are remaking the first game

[quaint ridge]

Yeah

[lapis sonnet]

so maybe if they do theyll add a third floor

dude i cant wake if they are doing that

ive found teasers and it looks good

[quaint ridge]

I know

[lapis sonnet]

wait but why exactly do u think the books arent canon?

[quaint ridge]

The book events have trinity as a main character when Aaron was around and in hello neighbor diaries in the flashbacks we never see trinity

Which diaries has flashbacks of Aaron

[lapis sonnet]

wdym diares

ive never heard of hello neighbor diares

[quaint ridge]

It’s a mobile game that’s cannon

[lapis sonnet]

what is it exactly, a full fledged game or like slideshow lmao

[quaint ridge]

You play as Nicky finding evidence and seeing memories along the way

[lapis sonnet]

how come i havent heard of this

[quaint ridge]

Each level you find evidence from what I can tell

[lapis sonnet]

is it even made by tinybuild

[quaint ridge]

Yes

[lapis sonnet]

they never talked about it or released trailers??

is it on iphone?

[quaint ridge]

Only I think some

[lapis sonnet]

just checked my iphone 8, not on it

so must be newer phones

[quaint ridge]

I just heard about it

[lapis sonnet]

when did it come out?

[quaint ridge]

Don’t know like 4 months ago I think

[lapis sonnet]

what the hell

this is so underground like how come nobody talked about it

does it follow the books or games

[quaint ridge]

It was going to be the update for hn1

But then turned into a mobile game

There’s videos

[lapis sonnet]

shouldve been an update 😦

wouldve been cooler idk

[quaint ridge]

I agre

[lapis sonnet]

since hn1 isnt exactly my favorite we'll say

[quaint ridge]

I like hn2 more

[lapis sonnet]

but i swear the books are canon, in the books the first 3 follow nicky but 4 5 and 6 take place before the first three books,

and aaron is a protagonist for 4 5 and y6

since when did it have to do with trynity being protagonist

[lapis sonnet]

she was only a supporting character in the books

[quaint ridge]

I know

I just have to hope the show gets better

[lapis sonnet]

yeah

wait so why were you considering the books to not be canon to the games?

[quaint ridge]

Because this show seems to be the new cannon to tinybuild and all of the others think that

And in books the neighbor hates the ravens

[lapis sonnet]

oh and same with the games

okay i misunderstood

yes so the show is a seperate timeline

so the books and games are in one timeline (including comics too)

and the show is seperate

[quaint ridge]

It’s just confusing

We have to wait for tinybuild to know for sure

[lapis sonnet]

yeah i get it, some events in the books dont tie in with the games perfectly? in act 1 he breaks into the neighbors house because he hears a strange noise while going to get a ball from the neighbors yard. in the books, he puts together what happened to mya and all in the weather station in the middle of the night while raining and out of anger for knowing aaron is trapped, he breaks in

but it should still tie in its just small stuff like that which creates a plot hole

they need to remake hn1 and change small events like that to match the books

maybe add extra cutscenes and such

[quaint ridge]

Thinking about it books 4 5 6 don’t make sence why would Aaron or trinity not tell Nicky about ravens

[lapis sonnet]

forest protectors u mean?

[quaint ridge]

They are the same

[lapis sonnet]

well i believe it is mentioned at one point in 1 2 or 3, and if not they just didnt feel the need to

[quaint ridge]

Ravens are the rich who are also known as Forrest protectors

It just does not make sence for like act 1 and that

Nicky would know

[lapis sonnet]

not really

the forest protectors were secretive about it, only reason aaron found out about it all is because he happened to be lucky enough for his basement to lead to the tunnels

which is where the forest protectors primarily roam

and in act 1 nicky wasnt focused on them he was focused on the neighor

*neighbor

[quaint ridge]

The sad thing is the pilot followed the book cannon but they changed it

The pilot of the show

[lapis sonnet]

yeah i know

its whatever i guess

book and game timeline (original timeline):

ima write one lmao

[quaint ridge]

Now we have this crazy new timeline

With the games and show

I hope they save some stuff from the books

[lapis sonnet]

-hello neighbor secret of bosco bay comic
-hello neighbor book 4
-hello neighbor book 5
-hello neighbor book 6
-hello neighbor book 1
-hello neighbor hide and seek
-hello neighbor book 2
-hello neighbor book 3/Act one of hn1
-secret neighbor and hello engineer if u count them canon
-hn1 act 2
-hello neighbor diaries
-hello neighbor book 7 (reset day)
-hello neighbor raven brooks disaster comic
-hello neighbor 2
-hn1 act 3

god can someone pin that, that was a hassell

there ya go

full book and game timeline

and the show is fully seperate\

[quaint ridge]

I think hide and seek act 1 is during book 4 because you see them moving in

[lapis sonnet]

yeah the acts of hide and seek are kinda spread throughout the timeline just like with hn1

but its fine most of the acts are just them playing

so i didnt write all that down

but ur right

is diaries actually a real game??

idk how i only just found out about it

ive heard rumors and people mention it

but still

[quaint ridge]

It is there’s gameplay on YouTube

I also seen this timeline

[lapis sonnet]

eh not accurate

[quaint ridge]

But makes no sence

[lapis sonnet]

the dates are wrong and heres why:

in the show with the new timeline they also changed all the dates.

so that guy is following the dates in the show and calling the show canon

its not

show is a retcon

[quaint ridge]

Yeah

[lapis sonnet]

no way guess what

holy crap

[quaint ridge]

The show and the books can’t be in the same timeline

[lapis sonnet]

nope

but dude

[quaint ridge]

What

[lapis sonnet]

all the teasers for the supposed remaster of hn1 ive been finding

and investigating for so long

were screenshots of diaries 💀

[quaint ridge]

Wow

[lapis sonnet]

how come i did all that digging and didnt know that

i found deleted teaser photos

and nobody told me it was for a mobile game??

oh wait that explains why they said they were planning on a hn1 expansion, diaries was going to be that

diaries looks so good too

where has it been all my life 🫢

[quaint ridge]

Now they split hello neighbor into old and new timeline

[lapis sonnet]

yeah

but with my timeline its easy to understand

[quaint ridge]

I liked old timeline

[lapis sonnet]

same

because the games are part of it and the books are

and i love the books

so well written

[quaint ridge]

I know

Now we have new timeline with show and games

But still has a raven cult

[lapis sonnet]

nah show isnt connected to the games

all games even new ones like hn2 are part of the old timeline

[quaint ridge]

You think but I’m the show trinity live next door

And there’s a new house a crossed in hn2

[lapis sonnet]

the house accross in hn2 is the same one from the first just smaller, in the books and hn1 it says its a turqiose house

trinity's is red

[quaint ridge]

Good point

[lapis sonnet]

in hn2 theres a red house behind the turqiose but we dont know if its trinitys

so the house across in hn2 is still nickys\

[quaint ridge]

But the show seems to at least be connected to secret neighbor because of the nightmares

[lapis sonnet]

eh i guess

secret neighbor isnt canon its just nickys friends playing pretend

but u can call it canon it doesnt mean anything tho

[quaint ridge]

Yeah I guess

I just feel like some how tinybuild will make it in the game world

[lapis sonnet]

if they do itll make everything complicated

hopefully they dont

[quaint ridge]

I know

[lapis sonnet]

what are ur theories on the mystery man who knocked us out in the hn2 ending?

[quaint ridge]

I’m starting to think mr.Peterson in the end decided to join the cult witch is why the guest stops quinten and the man is probly a cult member

[lapis sonnet]

well thing is

[quaint ridge]

Hm

[hazy slate]

they probably wouldn't allow him to join if Aaron exposed two of their members

(If that's even still canon)

[quaint ridge]

Who knows everything is weird now

With books and the show

At least we know the neighbor is not the guest

[lapis sonnet]

this is a forest protector:

not the guest

[quaint ridge]

Plague doctor

[lapis sonnet]

the guest is the neighbor its confirmed in the comic,

yes

thats what they look like

the guest has no association with them

in the comic the guest in the neighbor and he takes from the rich

and takes things people dont appreciate

[quaint ridge]

In hn2 we see both at same time near each other

[hazy slate]

The guest is a seperate entity

it controlled Ted's body in the comic

[lapis sonnet]

oh

well the guest isnt a forest protector

[hazy slate]

correct

[quaint ridge]

What is it

[hazy slate]

We don't know for sure.

[lapis sonnet]

we dont know

he was cut from hn2 except for a split second but appears in the comic kind of

[quaint ridge]

He makes quinten crash in hn2

[lapis sonnet]

yeah thats the only time we see him in hn2

[quaint ridge]

Strange

Maybe dlc

Will have him

[lapis sonnet]

maybe

ight ima head out

dont forget to look at my timeline its very accurate

[hazy slate]

he is most likely gonna be added in the first major content update

[quaint ridge]

K

Yeah

[hazy slate]

we already got tapes teasing him.

[lapis sonnet]

just as an antagonist to deal with when ur not in a houwse

[quaint ridge]

But not on Xbox

There’s no tapes still

[lapis sonnet]

nah theyll add him on xbox

oh u mean the taoes

*tapes

when they update or patch hn2 they put it on xbox it just takes an extra week or two so

ight bye

[quaint ridge]

Bye

[frosty wedge]

The guest could have something to do with the unfinished cassette tape puzzle actually

I mean there are ravens (could be crows) on 4 tapes

[lyric zephyr]

And in the files the tapes are MEANT to play guest noises, but well

That feature is broken

Just like the entire game itself

[quasi meadow]

Will hello neighbor ever become free?

[loud tartan]

n

o

just take it on sales

it's like 5$ when i's on sales

[crude dew]

someone please say it already
matpats theories are nonsense.
only, like the 1% of them is true, because the guy could somehow google the Bible quotes (not all of them, some are incorrect) right
I literally stopped watching his video, after I put years of research into the stories. it's unwatchable. if someone takes them as fact, then...that's what they worth. 😐

[crude dew]

when food, taxes, and living in general will be free as well, then it will!
don't give up hope, guys

[shell gull]

The Guest Possesses Ted, Ted Isn’t The Guest Itself.

Yes Cuz In HN2 The Person Who Supposedly Brings You Back To The Banner After Every Chapter Is The Guest Unsure Why The Guest Would Do That Though

[snow mauve]

Gone

https://tenor.com/view/idk-shrugs-i-dont-know-spongebob-gif-14727747

[shell gull]

He Isn’t Removed From Canon, Remember HG Still Canon

[snow mauve]

No lmao

It ain't canon

No lol

Like I said, hg is not canon

[shell gull]

Proof?

DLCs are connected to HG

[snow mauve]

And proof that it's canon?

[median stirrup]

what
they're
not related at all

[shell gull]

I Honestly Don’t Know

[wicked yacht]

Said by litetally no one ever

[snow mauve]

Where the hell did you hear that lmao

[shell gull]

DLCs Take Place After HN2, HG Takes Place Aswell, Which Means They Would Both Take Place Around Same Time.

[median stirrup]

what kind of drugs are you on

[wicked yacht]

Bro

[snow mauve]

And where's the proof?

[shell gull]

DLCs Hint To Take Place After GN2, We Don’t Know Exactly When, But HG Also Hints To Take Place After GN2, Which Means They Would Take Place At Similar Times

[snow mauve]

But hg isn't canon

Hint???

Bro there's 0 hints involved with hg

[wicked yacht]

Hg being not canon is a fact tho

[snow mauve]

That sounds so dumb when it ain't even true

[shell gull]

In The Canon Quentin Was A Night Shift Guard Sometime After HN2

[shell gull]

Then When Does It Take Place

[snow mauve]

Who said it was canon?

[snow mauve]

It doesn't involve with the story when it's not canon

[snow mauve]

Plus hello guest was only an alpha

[shell gull]

So Your Telling Me The DLCs Of HN2 That Are Meant To Be Add Ons To The Story Are Not Canon

[snow mauve]

Yes lmao

That's exactly what it meant

[shell gull]

First Of All 🧢

[shell gull]

Literally Explains Why The School Shut Down

[snow mauve]

What does that have to do with hg lol?

[shell gull]

Also Beatrix In The Lore Was Replaced By Another Night Shift Guard That Apparently Went Missing

[shell gull]

Cuz HG Takes Place After GN2, Which Is Also When The DLCs Take Place?

[snow mauve]

She's was only a scrapped character

[shell gull]

We Don’t Know But The Fact That The Sign In The Start Cutscene Was Knocked Down Means It Must’ve Been Quentin, Cuz In His CutsceneHe Knocks It Down

[snow mauve]

Bro omg I can't with this guy

Sharing misinformation

[shell gull]

Anything That Hasn’t Gotten Confirmation Of Not Being Canon Will Be Treated Canon, Anything Semi Non Canon Is Treated Canon, Point Proven

[shell gull]

You’re The Oy One Here Who Know One Is Agreeing With 💀

[snow mauve]

And who told you about that information

[shell gull]

Cuz Town Run Down And Everything Is Eerie Which Is What Happens After The Flood

In GN2

[snow mauve]

I'm done talking

[shell gull]

anyways BRB

[wicked yacht]

I mean i agree with him
HG after HN2 was announced was no longer canon

[oak vine]

Off topic but I really wish the neighbor didn’t have a dirty face and it was just his normal face in SN

I’m on about I want a avatar for the neighbor -_-

[shell gull]

YES Thank You

That’s Also One Of The Reasons People Believe The Art Style Got Changed After Alpha 2, Cuz It Didn’t Fit The Time It Took Place.

Anyways Got Some Stuff To Finish

I’m Back

[shell gull]

It May Be True That HN2 Is HG Rebranded But, Where And When Did Any One In TinyBuild Or Eerie Guest Studios Stat, That HG Along With It’s Story, Was No Longer Canon?

Also Even Though HG Was In Alpha Build In The Files The FG Would Be The Exact Same Story But Would Be Continued With Chapter 2, Rumble On The Mill.

There’s Even An Extended Version Of The HG Ending For Quentin, Showing The Guest Fighting Man In The Hat, Then Kidnapping You And Bringing You To The Mill

[untold folio]

dude hello guest isnt canon anymore you are literally spreading misinformation

[snow mauve]

Thank you!

[untold folio]

the game literally got replaced by hello neighbor 2 it should be obvious

[untold folio]

id ignore him if he continues

it aint worth your time dude

[shell gull]

Where In The History Of The Hello Neighbor Franchise, Did TinyBuild Or Eerie Guest Studios, Come Out And Stat That Hello Guest FG And Story, Is No Longer Canon?

[untold folio]

you’re funny💀

[untold folio]

bro comes into the like official (correct me if im wrong) hello neighbour server and starts telling the people who are most versed in the lore they are wrong, dude what

the guest sleeps on shoes, the lore implications are crazy 🤩😤

[shell gull]

I’ve Been In This Server, Along With My Old Account That I Lost, For Over 3 Years Meanwhile I’m Being Debated On.

Yes Please

I Was Thinking, If The Flood Happened Wouldn’t That Cause The River To Be Overflowed With Water, What Happened To Ottos House It’s Literally Inside The Lake?

[untold folio]

the fact youre even being debated on should say something but hmmk

[shell gull]

No

True

So Then Wouldn’t Ottos House Have Been Submerged/Destroyed With Water

[untold folio]

i dont think otto even was planned to be a charcter that early on

its just an oversight nothing more

[shell gull]

True

[untold folio]

it doesnt, im sure the devs would just say oh yeah its there “you just cant see it”

[shell gull]

I’d Imagine A Good 1/2 Of Friendly Court Got Submerged

[pulsar sable]

who is the guest most likely

[shell gull]

Here’s The Thing In The Actual Versions Of Raven Brooks The River And Lake Is A Good Distance Away From Nicky’s

[shell gull]

Oh God Not Again

[shell gull]

Alright Here We Go

The Guest Is An Entity

[untold folio]

hes definitly peterson sometimes

the guest is an entity

and can have influence over people

[shell gull]

He Isn’t Ted Himself Though He Possesses Him

[pulsar sable]

ik but did he just came out of nowere

[untold folio]

dude

i literally just said that

what

[shell gull]

Actually No

The Guest Is A Curse

[pulsar sable]

explain

[shell gull]

We Don’t Know How It Got Started But We Know

That

[pulsar sable]

by forest protectors

[shell gull]

The Curse Is Ancient

[shell gull]

Don’t Know Prob Never Will

But Most Likely Yes

[pulsar sable]

what kind of curse is he

[shell gull]

A Curse That Will Forever Torment The Residents Of Raven Brooks And Take Things From People That They Love To Make Them Sad And Have Agony

See Ya

[pulsar sable]

ok what does nightmare 3 mean

[shell gull]

It Shows Where It Started, At The Museum, And Where It Came From, The Crow Statue Most Likely

[pulsar sable]

with the guest statue

who created it

[shell gull]

It’s Guessed That The Curse Was Being Kept Captive In The Museum But It Broke Free

[shell gull]

Don’t Know

Prob The Cultist Looking For Power

[pulsar sable]

ok the lore of hn 2 is so vauge

[shell gull]

The lore Isn’t Mainly The Cutscenes It’s The Details

[pulsar sable]

what do you mean by details

[shell gull]

For Instance The Giant Statue Of The Guest, The Upside Down Room With The Picture Of The Cultists In The Tunnels, The Giant Cultists Statue In The Attic, It All Points To The Museum Being A Lair For The Cultists

[pulsar sable]

i hope new updates will expand the story couse i was kinda spoiled for hn 2

[shell gull]

Answer to That Came From The CEO Of TinyBuild Himself

[pulsar sable]

oh yea

good

[shell gull]

Anyways Brb

[pulsar sable]

what

[shell gull]

Be Right Back

[pulsar sable]

ok

i think the guest is more intresting then the neighbor

[crude dew]

what did he say yes to? 🧠

[crude dew]

but the message had two parts 🧠
marketing strat

[shell gull]

He Said Yes To More Story Content

Meaning The Story Will Get Updated More

[haughty lava]

Unfinished game was rushed we got a new SB on our dirty hands

[haughty lava]

HN2 is basically a prequel sequel

That cost 40 dollars

[unkempt sleet]

That's not a lore topic though

[uneven stirrup]

i think nicky's dead

[shell gull]

💀

[tribal talon]

guys

about a week ago i posted an image of some sort of holder in the weazel news tower

and now i found a cassette

from a puzzle at a random house (not one of the neighbor houses)

(nevermind it has been discovered before)

[wicked heath]

what argument shall you use to back this up?

[tribal talon]

The Guest smart than neighbor

[manic dirge]

we dont fully know

[toxic mist]

raven brooks really is the narcolepsy town

[toxic mist]

I just remembered aaron was the one who drew the forest protector picture

he drew it from memory…

[shell gull]

The One In The Upside Down Room? Cuz That Wasn’t Aaron, It Was A Decorative Painting Made By Cultists.

[toxic mist]

the one in the books that I have as my pfp

he also drew an island which I assume is the full map of raven brooks

full scale I mean

[shell gull]

Yeah In HN2, Where You Get The Fish Head.

[shell gull]

Show Me

[lapis sonnet]

he cant be, we know hes alive after act 3 because diaries exists

[toxic mist]

nah you gotta buy grave mistakes bröther

[shell gull]

I Have, I Just Don’t Know What You’re Talking About

[toxic mist]

my bad its in the 4th book on page 55

[shell gull]

Aight

[toxic mist]

this is a streatch but it could be what mayak sees

the island

oh the forest protector drawing was the "very last thing" he saw before climbing the tree in grave mistakes

[shell gull]

Well If You Look Up There’s A Literal Upside Down Dining Table And Chair

Also There’s The Fact That Half Of All The Rooms Have Some Sort Of Forest Protector Symbols

[crude dew]

what's up with the upside down room in HN2? it makes no sense

[unkempt sleet]

Cult needs the blood in their brain so they made the room upside down

[fallow cloud]

Hello neighbor 1 also had upside down rooms , I don’t think it’s related to the cult

[toxic mist]

i think it is

[shell gull]

Yup There’s For Some Reason Roots Growing In That Room To

[uneven stirrup]

look

nicky doesn't remember the gang after he dissapear

so

who opened literally the door?

aaron can't be him

because

got literally saved

from the guy of HN2

can't be him

plus

it doesn't appear in HN2

so

he might be dead

[wicked heath]

All of this doesnt even connect to someone even dying. And he appears later on in Act 3, so your theory is confirmed wrong.

Also @uneven stirrup, dont single line spam

[snow mauve]

Dude Hello Neighbor 2 takes place after Nicky escaped in Act 2. He's at home chilling and ignoring what Mr. Peterson is doing, so he's not dead.

[glacial whale]

One of the background houses or whatever you call them have a room upside down. Don’t know if that was an accident or intentional. Also I’m on Xbox so it could not be there on pc from the patch’s so idk

[wicked heath]

wait hold on, is the Mya bubblehead doll basically the new version of the stuffed-doll from HN1?

[pale urchin]

Wasn't the story retconned?

[wicked heath]

Books

[pale urchin]

Def retconned

[snow mauve]

Or maybe they're too lazy to model a stuffed doll lol

[wicked heath]

or that

[snow mauve]

I mean it's egs

So

Not surprised

[wicked heath]

i feel like it has some symbolism related to H&S

[tame quartz]

well the doll holds mya's symbolism, or her soul, so of course its related

[ripe berry]

They mean the HN2 Bobblehead Doll

(can't tell which doll you're referring to so sorry if that's what you were talking about-)

[wicked heath]

and how Aaron treat both the same way

[shell gull]

Pretty Sure It’s HN2s Version Of The Doll

[ripe berry]

I feel like they just couldn't be bothered to make a model of the Stuffed-Doll for HN2 so they just reused the Bobblehead Doll for that one cutscene

[pale urchin]

Well it does also show that HN2 changed the house style of Mr Peterson, and expanded not only the arc, but changed a lot of the items, so its obvious that mya's doll was one of them, as well as nicky's house

[shell gull]

Pretty Sure The Attic Cutscene

What’s Nicky’s Parents Names Again?

[wicked heath]

Jay and Luanne Roth

[shell gull]

Alright Just Updated The Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nvlX7K7ljW_pXHPHPFJZmIX79Gs_Jew2_Z2J2eCzxE/edit

[dry depot]

Yessir

[shell gull]

😎

[shell gull]

HAROLD

Best Character Of All Time

[tribal talon]

Nice what’s after missing peices 2

[woeful orchid]

Guys, I have a question. According to the book (missing peices), Trinity (Leader kid from SN) was already living Raven Brooks. But in the Animated Series, she has just moved there. The question is: Wich variation is canon?

[wicked heath]

Yeah, umm, apparently tb decided books werent canon anymore (sorta)

[woeful orchid]

Alr, thanks

[thin wadi]

Wait is hn2 after or before nicky escapes Mr Peterson?

Because he is still missing posters for him in hn2

But he isn't anywhere to be found in the game

Alr nvrm

[wicked heath]

actually, no he isnt

[thin wadi]

:o

[snow mauve]

After Nicky escaped Mr. Peterson

[thin wadi]

Ok

[shell gull]

Planning On Adding Most Likely A Semi Part Of Waking Nightmare Then Most Likely The Animated Series

[shell gull]

No It’s In FG Too

Full Game

I Don’t Think Taking Down Thousands Of Missing Posters In A Couple Days Is Possible

[shell gull]

Also Anyone Realised There’s Only Single Person Missing Posters For Nicky And Mya But None For Aaron

[flint bridge]

Hi

I barley downloaded the game but what do you do

You guys

[shell gull]

#off-topic

[thin wadi]

Wait the 3 kids that went missing tricker treating in alpha 1.5 are canon?

[thin wadi]

I can see them being nicky's poster

Hmmm

Interesting

[dry depot]

In the museum there is like puppets of the three kids who went missing so maybe it is canon

[shell gull]

Actually The Lore To It Is, The Kids Would’ve Went Missing On Halloween At The City As It Depicts On The Poster Since It’s The Only Readable Poster, Throughout HN2 To GN2, The School Would Get Into Allegations Of The Kids Being Missing, Leading To The School Getting Shut Down And Soon Abandoned After The Flood.

It Would End Up That The Cultist Killed Them And Hanged Their Costumes In The Museum As An Offering

Which Can Explain The Fact That The DLCs Take Place During GN2 Leading Up To HG

[dry depot]

But HG isn't a Canon game

[tribal talon]

thx for the summary of the books cuz i never read them and they are canon so thx

[safe charm]

hi

[shell gull]

Don’t Worry I’ll Continue It Out

[shell gull]

Some Things Are Such As The Security Guard, MITH, Beatrix And The Mill, The Guess Is Is That Quentin Would End Up Being The Security Guard And Beatrix Is His Replacement

No It’s Not It’s Different

Most Likely The Current Ones In RB

[shell gull]

Books Aren’t Mainly Canon But By Using The Full Timeline Concept/Canon, Can Bring Things Back Into The Canon

[tribal talon]

What do you mean by not mainly canon cuz like in some of them it tells the adventures of Nicky

Or do you mean some and not others

[halcyon cliff]

I am potato a head long time no see i spoke to you last year on 21st if December

[glacial whale]

But HG isn’t cannon none of those characters have yet to appear in fg or AS unfortunately

[tribal talon]

this friday is gonna be friday the 13th

[bleak spear]

Yeah

[shell gull]

Cuz of The Cartoon Show Changing Some Things In The Story Such As Ivan Actually Knowing Mr Peterson

[shell gull]

Yes But They Never Fully Fledge Stated The Story Itself Wasnt

[lyric zephyr]

The story involved Mr Peterson being The Guest directly and Quentin not being a Journalist

Legit cannot work

[shell gull]

Yeah But Th DLCs Throw Out The Fact That He’s A Journalist Also He Has Applications For Many Jobs At Raven Brooks

[lyric zephyr]

… But isn’t he also investigating the school and library? He’s still being an
Investigative Journalist

He didn’t apply for a job at the school or library

He’s investigating them

[shell gull]

The DLCs Imply They Take Place Sometime After The Flood, HG Implies A Year After The Flood Which Would Be The Same Times For Eyes And Ears To Get A Night Shift Guard, Hinting Toward Quentin

[lyric zephyr]

What do you mean the flood??? What flood?? When is a flood mentioned in the DLCs???

[shell gull]

After The Flood At Raven Brooks Everything Got Run Down And Ominous Just Like In The DLCs And In HG Also, HG Isn’t Canon But Some Parts Of The Story Is.

[lyric zephyr]

…???

[shell gull]

It’s Also One Of The Reasons People Believe The Art style Got Changed Since The Art style Didn’t Fit The Date Of Time It Took Place

[lyric zephyr]

No.. A flood wouldn’t change the entire layout and design of multiple houses

And wouldn’t completely redesign the foliage

[shell gull]

But It Did

I Never Said Foliage But The Foliage Did Get Damp And Barren

[glacial whale]

The only thing they said was new lore back then was in alpha 1.5 which we now know is the 3 missing kids. This means that it’s the only thing cannon. HG isn’t cannon. They could bring it back but it would be different to fit the current story. The original just isn’t anything. Also the story writers are the same as the AS. They weren’t the writers for HG back then.

[tribal talon]

Oh so they are partially canon

[shell gull]

Yes

[shell gull]

First Of All, Mill Is Canon, MITH Is Canon, Night Shift Guard Is Canon, Beatrix Is Also Canon, The Story Implementation Is Canon, Therefore It’s Semi/Non-Canon

There’s Curtain Things That For Some Reason Still Exist, As Much As It Doesn’t Make Sense, It’s The Truth

[shell gull]

Just Updated The Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nvlX7K7ljW_pXHPHPFJZmIX79Gs_Jew2_Z2J2eCzxE/edit

[silver vine]

yes

their costumes are literally on display in the museum

how is it not canon

[unkempt sleet]

And they still have the missing poster in the Banner

[silver vine]

how does it mean its not canon

you are working at EGS?

then how do you 100% know that it is not canon

the steam patch note says that it adds new characters to the lore

they were introduced BEFORE alpha 1.5

guest and MITH

they werent "introduced" in aplha 1.5

all 3 of them are canon

there are no questions about that

Idk why you desparately want them to be not canon

you do

they are in the school

we know that many ppl went missing in the school

[thin wadi]

MichealHuff is the lore man

Ask him

[tribal talon]

wait but the alpha 1.5 isnt canon

[snow mauve]

He meant the characters

Not the story/build itself

[tribal talon]

but how

just asking

not to be all "i dont want them to be canon"

[snow mauve]

Look at the museum in hn2 fg

It has the Halloween kids costumes from alpha 1.5 sealed in a glass

[tribal talon]

i will check that out once im done revising chemistry

[snow mauve]

K

[tribal talon]

thats some deep lore btw

not really

[heady dirge]

r the books worth getting into

[snow mauve]

They're sadly aren't canon anymore

But it had some really good deep lore in it

[heady dirge]

what the hell

why

i thought they were

bruh

[snow mauve]

Cuz AS

[shell gull]

Cough Full Timeline Cough

Also The Canon Ending Of The Halloween Kids Is They Got Murdered By Cultist

[snow mauve]

Woops

Accidentally deleted the message 💀

[snow mauve]

They're retconned

[shell gull]

The Books Can Be Brought Back To Light, Since Alex Said “Everything Is Canon” And “Canon Is A Flexible Term” So That’s Why The Full Timeline Exist, I’m Trying To Write Everything On It In A Doc Currently.

[tribal talon]

His Grandma Would Have Left Him In A Grocery Store

that is not a grandma move she failed miserably

instead she should have taught him verbaly

[hazy slate]

but where is guest kid?

[manic dirge]

why

[tribal talon]

Rip

[hazy slate]

where at?

[median stirrup]

literally not there
idk what you're talking about

literally not in the game even

because I played the game?

💀

you must have bad memory or a big imagination then

nowhere

[lyric zephyr]

I’m pretty sure he’s not even in the files

Yeah I’m 90% sure he isn’t

[median stirrup]

Well I'm 100% sure he's not in the game nor the files

[ripe berry]

Guest Kid's on the missing posters and that's it for his current appearances in Full Game

That's the only thing keeping him canon

[median stirrup]

Does it even matter if the kids are canon or not when literally all they do is keep the costumes on display instead of giving them any importance

[ripe berry]

tinyCrow will tell you they do bc School DLC Missing Kids

[median stirrup]

🙃

[ripe berry]

But those could really be any group of kids

[lyric zephyr]

Which are still never answered in that so what’s the point!

[ripe berry]

doesn't HAVE to turn out to be the Alpha 1.5 kids

[median stirrup]

I wouldn't listen to Crow anyway

[ripe berry]

and even if they (the School DLC Missing Kids) are the Alpha 1.5 Kids what does that really change for the lore

[median stirrup]

Nothing

[ripe berry]

Correct

[median stirrup]

Because they aren't important to any story

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[median stirrup]

HN2 story got butchered

Probably because they needed a short one because they didn't even have time to make a bigger game because of their mistakes!

[ripe berry]

If they keep the trick or treaters canon they need to make a story where they actually play a somewhat important role

[median stirrup]

But they won't

[ripe berry]

Or because World Class Writers!

[median stirrup]

Both

[lyric zephyr]

I still have my own story for them that would work perfectly

[snow mauve]

Butchered indeed

[lyric zephyr]

They’re a really old missing kids case taken by the Guest

Like 30+ years old missing kids case

[median stirrup]

They already put them on museum display and knowing them they're so committed to it they won't change it

[ripe berry]

I feel like the only reason HN2 was released in this state was so they could use it to promote the AS

[lyric zephyr]

Which is why the newspapers are all yellowed and in a different style

[lyric zephyr]

True

[median stirrup]

That's like just
A lame explanation

[ripe berry]

Seriously they could've said they needed more time to make the game and we'd all understand

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah but it’s better than no explanation!

[median stirrup]

Would we?

Because I don't understand the devs either way

[ripe berry]

Or at least some of us would understand

[median stirrup]

Make and design something, commit to it, showcase and be positive about it for a year, scrap all of it saying it didn't work, repeat, release a remake of the game made in 1,5 year that made everything worse

[lyric zephyr]

I always had the cracked out theory that the Trick or Treaters were kidnapped but then were found (except Guest Kid) and became two of the current residents

[ripe berry]

(and yet they chose not to because they needed the game out before AS)

[lyric zephyr]

Not always, used to

A long time ago

[ripe berry]

Guest Kid never had a proper character that fit them

[median stirrup]

Neighb-

[lyric zephyr]

I imagined the Guest kept the Guest Kid and took the form of being a “costume”

Using Guest Kid as a host(?)

[ripe berry]

I was about to say-

[median stirrup]

Hello host

[ripe berry]

Hello Visitor_Kid

[median stirrup]

I still don't understand why alien had a plunger in her purse

[ripe berry]

Same here

[lyric zephyr]

It’s a probe

[median stirrup]

It's clearly secret neighbor scout cuz the slingshot!!!!!

[lyric zephyr]

True!!!

But yeah I have no idea what the plunger would be for

[ripe berry]

it's def not a self defense thingie

[median stirrup]

Why does that kinda make sense tho

[lyric zephyr]

Exactly!

[ripe berry]

Because it does kinda make sense

they probably wouldn't have made the theory if it didn't make some kind of sense

[lyric zephyr]

I mean, Alien Kid has the polka dot clothes and always wears gloves/mitts

The Farmer fits just bc he’s dressed as a scarecrow w overalls

[ripe berry]

and would explain where the pumpkin came from

[lyric zephyr]

Guest Kid in that theory I imagine wouldn’t be Ted tho, since Ted is like 50 and Gerda and Farmer look to be in their maybe 30s

So he’d be a host for the Guest

[ripe berry]

(it was from the farm which under that theory would belong to a family member of the Farmer that is no longer with us)

[ripe berry]

and then World Class Writers happened and broke the theory by retconning 99% of the lore

[median stirrup]

I love people coming up with weird random stories in 5 minutes that work better than full game plot which there barely is any of in the first place

None of the new characters have their own story or secret it's all just cult, nothing involving Nicky Mya's grave is just gone, nothing about the 3 kids other than costumes

[lyric zephyr]

Nicky is part of the cult sorry

The missing child is part of the cult

Everyone is in the cult

Literally I can make a better story involving the cult at least w Otto
Being an Ex-Cult Member, which is why he’s angry at the crows circling and he’s actively trying to bury his key

He quit bc they made his friend the missing journalist disappear

[median stirrup]

Nah gotta have Aaron try to escape all the time and cry in the attic only to go "my dad isn't so bad 😊 " in the end making basically everything Quentin did in HN2 pointless

[lyric zephyr]

Aaron being literally locked in a cage for 3 days after being locked in a basement for over 2 months and being forcefully dragged around and unable to shower for months (he’s COVERED in dirt)

But no he loves his dad!!!

He has to go back to him!

[median stirrup]

And the cardboard cutout of Aaron what is the deal with that

And the Mya doll

[lyric zephyr]

Aaron has a cutout of himself for no reason

And Ted for some reason carved wooden models of his entire family
Except his wife for some reason?

[ripe berry]

Diane only exists in the lore so she can die

That's it

[lyric zephyr]

Yep

[ripe berry]

Aaron and Mya were the only family members he ever cared about

(and caring about Mya is debatable)

[lyric zephyr]

In the books Mya was like his favorite child

[ripe berry]

He prob fake cried when he and Diane got into the car crash so if Diane lived he wouldn't need to explain why he wasn't crying

[shell gull]

Most Likely Used As A Decoration Since His Costume Is Based On The Guest

[lyric zephyr]

But he doesn’t exist anywhere

He ain’t used as a decoration because he just doesn’t exist in HN2 Fullgame

[shell gull]

Ik, But He’s Still Canon, They Probably Used His Costume As A Decoration At One Of Their Hideouts

Cultists

Don’t Know Probably A Secret One Since Theirs A Bunch Of Them We Don’t Know About, I Mean Before FG We Didn’t Know The Museum Was One.

Yeah, It’s In The Picture Of The Forest Protectors In The Upside Down Room.

In Early Concepts He Did

There’s Nothing Special, He Just Likes The Sweater Since It’s Nice.

But He Most Likely Has Many Pairs Of The Same One

Yup

[lyric zephyr]

I know in the books I’m pretty sure he’s described as wearing brown pants at one point

Not in the games or the AS

SN doesn’t count if he has any there

Those are clearly orange

No those are
Literally orange
They’re the exact same as his HN1 textures

And screen brightness doesn’t affect screenshots

I just took this screenshot at lowest screen brightness

Unless you’re talking about game brightness

Oh gotcha

But no those are just, bright orange pants

He’s always had them

True

Always been some shade of blue

Outside of old concept art

[shell gull]

Doc Has Been Updated: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nvlX7K7ljW_pXHPHPFJZmIX79Gs_Jew2_Z2J2eCzxE/edit

[tribal talon]

Larents

There is a mistake

[ripe berry]

Larents moment

[shell gull]

Where

Ahh I See It

Ima Fix That

It Is No Longer Larents

[stone plover]

Hey I was wondering if I could help edit some texts? I notice some capitalization errors and would love to fix them, If you do let me we should discuss it in DM’s.

[tribal talon]

Nice

[thin wadi]

Trinity Bales

[crude dew]

Nicky made the cult
remember how much he loved aliens in the books? yeah.
the cult grew from that love.

[crude dew]

yall act like irl dads didn't like their daughters more, or moms didn't like their sons more
this is a thing 😭

[lyric zephyr]

Mine aren’t like that as much but yeah it’s a common thing lol

[crude dew]

yeah I heard this from here and there, from friends
no wait
also psychology class💀

[shell gull]

Oops Gonna Fix That

Also For The Doc I’m Gonna Do Episode Two, And Then Skip To HN-HN2 Since We Don’t Have All The Episodes.

[silver vine]

is farmer even canon now?

[lyric zephyr]

No, I came up with this theory like close to a year ago I think lol

[silver vine]

its a good theory

but the thing is

is farmer actually canon or is he retconned to death like 90% of HN lore

hes more absent than MITH and trick or treaters but we still treat him as canon?

why?

[crude dew]

wdym Smith is dead 😭

[shell gull]

Cuz Uhh Pretty Sure He’s Supposed To Be St. Nick The Farmer Llama

[silver vine]

but the books are buried at the neighbor's backyard tho!

[shell gull]

This is for something in #hello-neighbor we knew that the Halloween kids went missing, we knew they went missing in the city, we know that they died to cultist, we know they used the costumes as decorations.

[unkempt sleet]

How do we know they died to cultist??

[shell gull]

Cuz a storm happened, most Likely cultist

Check kindly keying channel he made a short where he got a package from TinyBuild

Also now people can stop screaming at me saying the museum isn’t abandoned

[silver vine]

now its confirmed that the Petersons are still cursed in the AS canon

and Peterson is hell bent on getting revenge on them

[shell gull]

Which explains him wanting the golden Apple coins to gain luck

[shell gull]

Well now we know why crow kid isn’t there

[silver vine]

he was found

[shell gull]

Yup

Also My Guess Is The “No coincidence” Is Cuz the cultist were the ones who killed them

Then put there costumes in the museum

A.K.A The Monument Of Abandoned

Still laughing after proving everyone wrong that the museum is abandoned

The “What are they doing here” is most likely towards the cultist, using it as a hideout for doing rituals and more.

The investors was most likely to renovate it, but would get cut out, stopping renovation, which can explain the fact there are scaffolding in the back of the museum.

[toxic mist]

where did you see this pic

[bleak spear]

kindly keyin yt short i think

[tribal talon]

here

its here not there

It's What are they hiding here?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965689782099390517/1063529228441763930/image.png

[shell gull]

Ahh I See

[wicked yacht]

So in the books it says aaron thinks he deserves to be in the basement and doesnt really wanna escape

Then why is he so desperate to escape in hn2

[thin wadi]

I think he changes his mind after nicky escapes

Especially since at the end of act 2 in hn1 you can hear glass shattering which is Aaron trying to escape

[ripe berry]

So now we know what happened to the Missing Journalist (Sort of)

[thin wadi]

We do?

Mr. Lore man

[shell gull]

Cuz after Nicky broke out he was determined to get out afterwards

[ripe berry]

From that Kindly Keyin video people figured out the text for the Missing Journalist reads

(Ignore the Live Missing Journalist Reaction)

and with the 3 Trick or Treaters they gave them lore (Ignore the FR and the image from Alpha 1.5)

Now both the Missing Journalist and the 3 Trick or Treaters have lore explanations for what happened

So looks like the Guest Kid might be the only Trick or Treater we'll see in the AS

Since "Only one child was found"

That being the Guest Kid as to explain why their costume's replica is not found in the Museum

So now we can build more of a timeline

Also the library ending ain't sh*t

[shell gull]

All of the things are hinting to the cultist

[ripe berry]

even the pictures shown of characters

We know from Peterson's Board in WtRB that Gerda and Otto are cultists

so what's to say Leslie's not also a cultist

No

I said ignore the image

[shell gull]

It’s Towards These New Teasers On Kindly Keyins Channel

[ripe berry]

That was someone adding a image on there

[shell gull]

Also guess what? I was right, the museum is abandoned

[ripe berry]

The actual thing looks like

I know the image here is blurry with the text but IDC

[strange lance]

Here's the tape audio btw

They're summoning the guest

clearly

ritual time

[mighty ember]

guest rituals you gotta be kidding me hn

[ripe berry]

I realized listening through the audio what it was

[shell gull]

Anyways here’s everything we know: The Halloween Kids went missing on Halloween in a dangerous storm, only one of them were found, most Likely the cultist killed the other two then used their bodies as decor, The missing journalist went missing when he got to close to the truth and got killed by the cultist.

[shell gull]

Omg so your telling me my theory was correct the entire time

First I got the museum correct, now the guest origin theory too, man I’m on a roll

The Giant Crackle at the end of the 4th tape is most likely the guest breaking free and escaping the museum most Likely

[ripe berry]

Heck Nightmare #3 could be retelling what happened

That being the Forest Protectors(Yes I'm still using old name and not "The Cultists") worshipped a being and got good luck (The GA Coins) but then the Guest(The being they worshipped) got summoned and turned on them (Hence why the crow (which was most likely controlled by the Guest) kills the Realtor in AS)

and this is why the Investors don't want to comment on why they aren't putting money into restoring the Museum

and perhaps they took this unknown object out of there because it had something to do with summoning the Guest

hence why the unknown one who highlighted stuff asks "What are they hiding here"

"... and are now going to stretch their greedy hands over an object that has brought nothing but tears to the residents of the city. it is everyone's sadly famous..."

We'll have to wait and find out

[ripe berry]

This is what I'm referring to by "this unknown object"

Cya

[shell gull]

Here’s All the tapes edited in one full video:

And yes I took the time to edit it too

I’m gonna name this, The Tapes

Also who was it who took the tapes?

[ripe berry]

We don't know

Might be Missing Journalist tho

"He got too close to them"

[shell gull]

My guess is the missing object is either, Luck Device Or Golden Apple.

[safe charm]

what happens in the tapes ?

[ripe berry]

To who? the other things imply this has something to do with the Cultists

[shell gull]

It shows the guest being summoned

[shell gull]

My guess it Was Otto

[ripe berry]

Or not shows but let's you hear

[ripe berry]

and Otto is a cultist

[safe charm]

wonder what they were doing is the crow sounds in the begining the guest

[shell gull]

Plus they knew eachother

[shell gull]

Yeah

[ripe berry]

So it def connects back to the Cultists

[shell gull]

Also it’s simple, it’s them summoning him

What were the ritual devices though

[safe charm]

do we have clue to how they summoned him ?

[shell gull]

Most likely through the crow statue, by filling it with GA Coins.

[ripe berry]

Which is shown in Nightmare #3

[safe charm]

in the end why does the crow sound become louder do you think ?

[shell gull]

Ik, it’s the guest breaking free and escaping the museum

[ripe berry]

Which again I personally believe is meant to be a distorted retelling of the cult's history

[ripe berry]

It's when the Guest is summoned

[shell gull]

I agree

[ripe berry]

The GA Coins serve a double purpose

[safe charm]

how did the cultist take over a museum was it already closed

[shell gull]

It’s Abandoned

[ripe berry]

They're both used to help summon the Guest and give people with them Good Luck temporarily

[toxic mist]

i think they are the same things

[safe charm]

who stole the keys

[shell gull]

The Cultist trying to hide the fact they summoned the guest

Also @ripe berry Remember when we were trying to figure out how the Ted got inside the museum?

[ripe berry]

Again my theory is that the Forest Protectors(Yes I'm still using old name and not "The Cultists") worshipped a being and got good luck (Represented with the GA Coins, which also show how they summoned the Guest) but then the Guest(The being they worshipped) got summoned and turned on them (Hence why the crow (which was most likely controlled by the Guest) kills the Realtor in AS)

[ripe berry]

Yes?

[shell gull]

Well Everything other than keys were placed by Ted so he basically drove into the garage and barricaded it.

[ripe berry]

My current understanding of the timeline has it so that the Museum closes down before HN2 Begins, which is why we had even thought about that

[shell gull]

The real question is