lore-discussion

[tribal talon]

ceo says canon

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-leaving-agent-jonsey-jonsey-fortnite-gif-20110950

[shell gull]

Idk Why I’m Asking Here But, Does Anyone Have The Link To All The Things Planned To Come To The FG

[tidal jacinth]

Pretty sure hes talking about canon clowns

Which we already knew

[unkempt sleet]

Canon clowns?

[tidal jacinth]

Ted being in a clown suit

[tribal talon]

#hello-neighbor message

this too

[tidal jacinth]

I havent read the book yet but hes on the book

[unkempt sleet]

He posted a picture of the clown suit in AS

[tribal talon]

they have made it very clear this is canon

[unkempt sleet]

And said its canon

[tidal jacinth]

That one is very obviously a joke

[tribal talon]

this is supposed to overwrite book canon

if you deny this being canon you're just flatout wrong

nothing else

[tidal jacinth]

Bro hes clearly joking

[tribal talon]

bro if this isnt canon then why would they literally have it tie into HN2

[tidal jacinth]

Have you ever heard of something called a running gag

[unkempt sleet]

İn books, its just a suit that he wore when playing with Mya iirc

[tidal jacinth]

Yeah

[unkempt sleet]

And thats a one time thing

[tidal jacinth]

So?

He also drew himself as a clown at the age of 5

[unkempt sleet]

Why did you bring up clown being in the books?

[tidal jacinth]

Already with a mustache

[tribal talon]

the AS is canon. end of story

[tidal jacinth]

The AS isn't canon

If you're willing to admit the series is canon, you're willing to admit there's no such thing as canon

[tribal talon]

give me proof

i want proof it's not canon

[tidal jacinth]

Give me proof it IS canon in the first place

[tribal talon]

if you give me proof it's not canon

i'll accept it

[unkempt sleet]

The CEO of Tinybuild acts like it's canon
Why are you trying to deny it

[tribal talon]

hit me with your best shot

[tidal jacinth]

There's nothing to prove, we have no reason to believe it's canon

[unkempt sleet]

He literally said HN1 SN and HN2 will tie up together in AS

Oops, typo

[tidal jacinth]

Again, maybe as an idea

Like HE

[tribal talon]

wth is this guy speaking about

[tidal jacinth]

Maybe it has something behind it

Or HaS

Do you think Mya is actually flown around by a crow?

[unkempt sleet]

Thats Mya's imagination

[tidal jacinth]

Yeah

[unkempt sleet]

İts still canon

İts just didnt happened

[tidal jacinth]

Ok let me make some points

If AS is cannon, Trinity came after Nicky

Which means she never met Mya or Aaron

[unkempt sleet]

Yep

[tidal jacinth]

Oh and you're fine with that?

So Aaron never talked to Enzo about Trinity

[unkempt sleet]

İm not saying im fine with that??

İm just not denying it

[tidal jacinth]

You're fine accepting it's canon for no reason

[unkempt sleet]

Its canon, Alex made it pretty clear
Why would i deny it? Even if im not happy with it, it doesnt change the fact that its canon

[tidal jacinth]

I don't see any proof he made it clear

So far I've only seen very obvious jokes

[crude dew]

@tidal jacinthopinion on the books being canon?

[unkempt sleet]

Why the hell would he want SN tie up to AS if its a separate canon?

[tidal jacinth]

The only acceptable and consistant canon

[unkempt sleet]

Hah

Ok then wait

[lucid pumice]

Has anyone made a timeline for this series?

[tidal jacinth]

Idk what's the problem. The AS doesnt talk about Nicky getting trapped in the basement. There's no problem fitting SN in the canon

[tidal jacinth]

It doesnt adapt to the animation, not to the lore

[crude dew]

I'm not sure why smartphones were added, when such a tihng as polaroid camera existed in the 90's
will the kids google and cancel mr Peterson on twitter dot com?

[tidal jacinth]

See?

[lucid pumice]

#MrPetersonIsOverParty

[crude dew]

because things will happen differently IF there's internet

[tidal jacinth]

The animation is just a way to tell the overall story that ties hn1 and 2 together not actually canon

[unkempt sleet]

HOW would AS tie HN1 AND HN2 if its NOT canon

[tidal jacinth]

Again, as an idea not as canon

[lucid pumice]

Who knows, maybe this factors into the time loop plotline somehow?

[tribal talon]

books are being retconned because they dont translate well

[tidal jacinth]

SN ties act 1 and 2 more or less, not that it's compeltely canon

[tribal talon]

new lore over writes

get over it

[tidal jacinth]

I'm sure it's the other way around

[unkempt sleet]

Why would they do that?
Theyre not Scott Cawthon
Only Scott does the "Different timeline that explains the elements in the universe"
HN didnt have any separate canons, AS is canon

[tidal jacinth]

AS is not canon

[unkempt sleet]

AS is canon

[tidal jacinth]

It might have some main idea that ties the games

That doesnt make It canon

[lucid pumice]

He hasn’t done that, but okay.

[unkempt sleet]

Even if youre not happy with it, you cant deny it

[unkempt sleet]

books

[tidal jacinth]

I can deny it

[unkempt sleet]

Deny it all you want, it doesnt change the fact that its canon

[tribal talon]

The coping is strong with this one.

[tidal jacinth]

It doesnt adapt well to animation, so they make it non canon and let it continue

[unkempt sleet]

Thats not true

[tribal talon]

yeah, it would be weird to make HN2 intentionally defy the books.

so that means HN2 isn't canon either..

[tidal jacinth]

Same with HN games, they're not entirely canon cause it doesnt fit the gameplay

[unkempt sleet]

HN2 and AS has the same writers

[tribal talon]

is this guy actually trolling rn

[lucid pumice]

Really I’d just wait for more episodes to come out before arguing over this.

[tidal jacinth]

So?

[tribal talon]

this isnt an argument

hes just straight up denying fact

[tidal jacinth]

Just the first one defies pretty much every known interaction we had

[unkempt sleet]

No probably, The guy just doesnt understand the concept of retconning

[tidal jacinth]

You're denying the fact that it's not canon

[lucid pumice]

The point is it won’t matter until we know what Alex means.

[crude dew]

Scott originally made the books for people who wanted to read more detailed stories
it just unleashed into...whatever happens today

[tidal jacinth]

Y understand It to some degree. For example Maritza and Enzo were african american

They just changed a small detail

Not the entire known lore

Obviously just AS isn't canon

[unkempt sleet]

obviously

[lucid pumice]

The Charlie novels were a one-off continuity, but the current books are all canon and getting increasingly more connected to the games. You can even see the aftermaths of certain events in Securiyy Breach.

[unkempt sleet]

No

[tidal jacinth]

Yes

[lucid pumice]

Maybe

[tidal jacinth]

So do you think SN is fully canon?

[unkempt sleet]

We will see in SN

[tidal jacinth]

Do you think the neighbor has figured a way to shapeshift?

[unkempt sleet]

Alex said SN happens in 4-6 episode iirc

[lucid pumice]

I want this to be in a book so bad, you have no idea.

[unkempt sleet]

Bruh, let me find something

[tidal jacinth]

It's just an idea overall, kids planning to save Nicky

That's all It is

[unkempt sleet]

HERE

[tidal jacinth]

Just that didnt fit into Gameplay so they made it non cannon

[unkempt sleet]

Alex said SN is canon

Now

[tidal jacinth]

Not the map and not disguising

Not fully canon just the idea

[crude dew]

I'm terribly sorry, but I couldn't care less about the fnaf stories anymore
I did a lot back then, when the original story was going on, I read about it daily...but it's just overwhelming/heavy with a lot of plotholes in the main story, even
simply too much

I hope HN will avoid the mistakes that Scott did

[tidal jacinth]

Exactly what they did with AS. They'll prolly talk some canon but they made the timeline non canon to fit the theme

[lucid pumice]

At this point we should probably move this to DMs, I don’t want to derail the conversation.

[unkempt sleet]

Alex literally said its canon now

[crude dew]

wait wait wait
what's with the bottom message?? oh god!
that's a lot of hint lol

[unkempt sleet]

Yea, Neighbor doesnt shapeshift into a child
One of the childs is working with him

[tidal jacinth]

Alex literally said it's just the idea that is canon.

Yeah

The idea behind the game

[crude dew]

who do you think it is 😏 it's getting obvious

[tidal jacinth]

Exactly what I'm saying with AS

The idea behind AS will tell us smth about the lore

[unkempt sleet]

_thats not the case

AS is canon

[tidal jacinth]

Because you said so?

[unkempt sleet]

Alex said that

ALEX

The ceo of the company

[tidal jacinth]

Where

[unkempt sleet]

He acts like its canon

That means its canon

[tidal jacinth]

He says SN is shown in the series

How is that acting like it's canon 💀

[unkempt sleet]

Theres much more you dont see here

[tidal jacinth]

Hes just saying what the episodes will talk about

[lucid pumice]

Again, I’d just wait to see more of the show before getting worked up over it.

[unkempt sleet]

İ cant find every message he sent

[tidal jacinth]

Acting like it's canon doesnt make it canon

[unkempt sleet]

Alex is the ceo

[tidal jacinth]

The first episode is enough

Yes he is

[unkempt sleet]

Alex literally can do what he wants with the franchise

İf he acts like its canon

İt means he wants it to be canon

[tidal jacinth]

Good job

So?

[unkempt sleet]

Which makes it canon

[lucid pumice]

Canon is a purely creative concept. Something can make no sense in any number of ways, but if the people in charge intend for it to be in continuity, then it is.

[tidal jacinth]

Again acting like it's canon is just you're pov

[unkempt sleet]

Bruh i just said

Alex is not just a random fan

[tidal jacinth]

It's subjective to say he acts as if it's canon

[unkempt sleet]

İf he acts like its canon
That means its canon

[tidal jacinth]

I don't see how he acts like that

[crude dew]

Apple, I think you should let it go

[lucid pumice]

Yeah this is just getting annoying.

[tidal jacinth]

You can't prove anything

[crude dew]

not like we have to

😄

[tidal jacinth]

Yeah

Exactly

It's just a piece of content to be taken as an idea

[unkempt sleet]

İts not

[tidal jacinth]

Not to compeletely scrap the lore

[lucid pumice]

Even if it is, objectively canon, this isn’t the way to go about this. You’re chasing someone in circles, when so far the show hasn’t presented us anything potentially relevant anyway.

[tidal jacinth]

Exactly

Nothing is canon until proven otherwise

[unkempt sleet]

Ok
You can ask if its canon or not when Alex comes
İ will not discuss any further
But take my word, its canon

[crude dew]

I remember when classicjrb literally screenshotted some Nikita message from a now not public server/dm, just to prove his shtty statement
that's like the lowest thing you can ever do. don't do that
if someone doesn't believe something, then sucks to be them I guess

this whole "canon?!" thing is getting out of hand in literally every franchise
who cares?
enjoy or avoid the content. that's it.

[tidal jacinth]

I care

[lucid pumice]

Let’s just talk about something positive.

[tidal jacinth]

Also hes online

Are we allowed to ping him?

[crude dew]

no

[lucid pumice]

Yeah don’t bother him.

[unkempt sleet]

No obviously

[crude dew]

if you look at his roles, he has the no ping role.

[tidal jacinth]

Alrighr then

How often does he check the channels?

[unkempt sleet]

He just shows up randomly

[manic dirge]

it is

[unkempt sleet]

We dont know

[manic dirge]

its cannon

[unkempt sleet]

İ didnt said that to you

İ know its canon

[manic dirge]

but book 1 and book 2 might get retconned

[lucid pumice]

So what do you guys think of the show itself?

[tidal jacinth]

I swear Imma hide kids in my basement if you guys keep saying it's canon

[manic dirge]

very good

[lucid pumice]

I’m not too big on the art style, but the writing is fine.

[manic dirge]

book 1 and 2 isnt tho

[glacial whale]

Moves a little to fast at times but decent

[manic dirge]

not anymore

[tidal jacinth]

What do you mean it's not canon

Until proven otherwise, AS isn't fully canon it's just an idea like SN

[manic dirge]

ever since AS was announced it has became not cannon

[tidal jacinth]

Show ne

Show me where

Proof

[crude dew]

do you guys see a little dot on the I as well? weird

[manic dirge]

i heard about it

but it makes sence

[tidal jacinth]

No proof

[glacial whale]

Just ignore the fact Alex said it’s connecting the first game with HN2

[manic dirge]

fine dont believe me

[lucid pumice]

Does it even matter if it’s canon or not if the events so far are near identical? Nicky’s house being slightly farther from Peterson’s doesn’t mean anything.

[tidal jacinth]

"My source is that I made it the hell up"

[manic dirge]

i dont care

[tidal jacinth]

The problem is the timeline

[manic dirge]

well its not

[lucid pumice]

No I see it too, thought my screen was glitching or something.

[crude dew]

neither do the other 30 things, which were modified

I mean, what will change if it's canon and what if not?? nothing?? it will still exist

[tidal jacinth]

The entire role of Trinity in the books 4-6 become meaningless

[manic dirge]

book 1 and 2 are gonna become not cannon

[glacial whale]

They wouldn’t spend all the time and money into it if it wasn’t cannon

[tidal jacinth]

Yes they would

[glacial whale]

That would just be stupid

[tidal jacinth]

It's called SN

[lucid pumice]

Well, not necessarily. Adaptions happen all the time.

[tidal jacinth]

And HE

Pretty much all games aren't fully canon

[glacial whale]

It’s all connected

[manic dirge]

and god damn act 3 isnt fully cannon

[tidal jacinth]

They're all ideas

[crude dew]

sorry, but because of the book 3 ending, they are all meaningless when it comes to role, which they are supposed to have.
Nicky enters to the house alone, figures things out alone, end of story

[lucid pumice]

I keep forgetting this game exists.

[tidal jacinth]

Exactly

And they put a lot of resources into it

[glacial whale]

If your referring to the imagination stuff I understand that

[tidal jacinth]

Not that

Those are dreams and they're fine

[manic dirge]

act 3 isnt fully cannon.

it never burnt down

[tidal jacinth]

But for example the neighbor using a vacuum to get Nicky down of high places

[crude dew]

netflix adaptations 🥹

[glacial whale]

Like SN doesn’t actually happen but it’s cannon to some degree

[tidal jacinth]

It's all distortes memories

[lucid pumice]

Chris Pratt as Enzo.

[glacial whale]

Gameplay

[crude dew]

oh god

[tidal jacinth]

Or him jumpint through actual windows

[manic dirge]

the neighbors house never burnt down

[tidal jacinth]

Exactly it's just gameplay

[paper shadow]

Don't worry people! Mayak will connect everything!!1 Have faith!

[tidal jacinth]

Same way AS is just animation

[manic dirge]

cuz in reset day the neighbors house wasnt burnt down

[tidal jacinth]

Not entirely canon

[glacial whale]

I get what your saying

[noble viper]

It will connect so much that it itself is gone from everything except the animated series

[manic dirge]

and act 3is in 2015 or 2017

[crude dew]

knowing Nikita, it would've fixed literally everything and there wouldn't be a fight here either now.

[glacial whale]

It’s like how they had to change the books from the games because you can’t play a book

[manic dirge]

and reset day is in 2021

[tidal jacinth]

HS is almost fully imagination

[crude dew]

ah yes
book 7 exists
wow

[paper shadow]

It's funny how i see the same discussion going on since 2018 and then it's sad because all the lore content just don't connect.

[tidal jacinth]

SN is all Gameplay just canon idea behind it

HE is just some random game maybe based on their engineering club

[crude dew]

we're only missing the Neighbor Guest dilemma, for real

[manic dirge]

the neighbors house never burnt down

[tidal jacinth]

Hn2 doesnt even make all that much sense

Like the Hunter literally shoots you with a shotgun

[manic dirge]

not finished

[tidal jacinth]

And you walk it off

[crude dew]

can I send the gta gif? it has swearing in it

[tidal jacinth]

What do you even mean it's not finsihed

[glacial whale]

It’s not done

[tidal jacinth]

It Will get updates but the base Game is done

[crude dew]

oh god Alex not the bald Neighbor please

[lucid pumice]

Quentin was infected with remnant, obviously.

[tidal jacinth]

They're not gonna change the base game

[glacial whale]

The future content updates

[tidal jacinth]

Tru canon

[glacial whale]

It could add new story continuation

We don’t know

[tidal jacinth]

None of the games are fully canon

[crude dew]

you guys don't see the point of the cartoon!! they are collecting chaos emerald shards, so they can have a wish from the dragon!
ugh smh

[tidal jacinth]

They're all ideas/representations

[glacial whale]

Just the main points

[noble viper]

Aaron being the Guest was the best

[crude dew]

kri at max

[paper shadow]

Mayor is the guest

[tidal jacinth]

Oh yeah what happened to the mayor

[crude dew]

we all know that you are the Guest, Alex
too late, don't deny

[glacial whale]

Literally HN is almost nothing but dreams or imagination.

[tidal jacinth]

He used to be a skinny white guy

[unkempt sleet]

Skinny white guy?

[lucid pumice]

Different mayor, probably.

[glacial whale]

In the books?

[tidal jacinth]

All the games are mainly ideas/representations of the lore

[crude dew]

I don't remember the book mayor lol

[tidal jacinth]

Maybe

[paper shadow]

Just imagine him chasing you then he catches you, he take off the head... look deep into your eyes and say: "I'm the Mayo", then torn you to pieces. 10/10 ending.

[tidal jacinth]

The tavish family

[unkempt sleet]

If youre talking about the books
Mayor Tavish isnt the Mayor thats in HN2

[tidal jacinth]

They gave money to the GA thing

[crude dew]

have you seen how mayor looks at Quentin?? would have to set the game to 15+ 😄

[tidal jacinth]

So what happened to him

[noble viper]

It's a-me, Mayo!

[unkempt sleet]

Wym what happened?

[glacial whale]

Mayor tavish was arrested if I remember but I’m not sure if he’s the same in HN2 probably not

[crude dew]

Mayo and his brother, Joseph

[tidal jacinth]

Oh

[unkempt sleet]

Mayor tavish wasnt arrested

[tidal jacinth]

Makes sense

[crude dew]

wasn't that cleave?
who sat in prison in the end

[tidal jacinth]

Also couldve died of old age

[velvet fossil]

You guys thinking about guest and I still want to know who is the pumpkin in that stream

[tidal jacinth]

What pumpkin

[unkempt sleet]

He's just not mayor anymore

[crude dew]

pumpkin? 😳

[glacial whale]

Oh so the guest was a pumpkin

[tidal jacinth]

The guest is my fav character and I wanted his HG prototype AI in the gane

[crude dew]

didn't we all

[velvet fossil]

Yes, that person who was in the Halloween video

[glacial whale]

The stalking it used to do

[tidal jacinth]

But ofc they had to throw the best mechanic

[glacial whale]

Honestly barely remember the Halloween video

That was a while back

[tidal jacinth]

Idek what halloween video

[lucid pumice]

The Guest has a brilliantly effective design, and yet instead we got a bunch of indirect allusions to him over and over like doing it a lot means something.

[crude dew]

I don't even remember it. was it a stream? which cannot be replayed?

[tidal jacinth]

I just remember the AS, which aren't fully canon

[crude dew]

nah
overtalked topic
we're focusing on pumpkins now

[tidal jacinth]

True

[glacial whale]

I think you can rewatch streams

[crude dew]

I have the links, but some are not available anymore

[glacial whale]

Well not long ones

[crude dew]

I think this hw one was a long one

[tidal jacinth]

I just remembered the stolen snow in SN, who stole it anyway?

[glacial whale]

Remember the 100 hour zen stream.

[crude dew]

global warming

[velvet fossil]

This one https://youtu.be/6mdpOYreYic?t=13633

[lucid pumice]

Greg.

[crude dew]

oooh!
it was obviously Guest 😏

well, a guest at least

[tidal jacinth]

Did we never figure It out?

Nothing confirmed?

[glacial whale]

What?

[crude dew]

merch idea: sun-powered dancing Neighbor
khm

[tidal jacinth]

The snow thief

Who stole it

[glacial whale]

Oh

[lucid pumice]

That sounds like a young adult fantasy novel.

[tidal jacinth]

I thought we already knew

[glacial whale]

Evaporation

[tidal jacinth]

Bruh

It wasnt the neighbor

That's all I know

[glacial whale]

Truth is the snow just melted and evaporated.

[tidal jacinth]

There was a letter

[crude dew]

I just said bruh

[tidal jacinth]

Who wrote it

Also I thought we ruled that out

[lucid pumice]

So how much do we actually know about the Guest anyway?

[glacial whale]

The guest has hands

[crude dew]

Guest is
kra
and then
creature

[glacial whale]

And it’s got a beak

[crude dew]

it can run!

[tidal jacinth]

Idk he Seems to be a mix between the fp's and some weird entity

I have to finish all the books

[crude dew]

it can dance
it can blow balloons from it's-
oh.

[tidal jacinth]

And graphic novels

[glacial whale]

“Guest is the thing”

[lucid pumice]

Based off that one cutscene, I think the idea is he was somehow exploited by Golden Apple?

[crude dew]

ah yeah. catfighting about canon, what about the comics huh? 😏

[tidal jacinth]

I Guess the only official appereance of the guest in the games is that one short animation at the beginning of HN2

[crude dew]

I hated guest in the second comic, not denying that

[lucid pumice]

Doesn’t Peterson drown or something?

[crude dew]

🫠

[tidal jacinth]

By comics you mean graphic novels right?

[glacial whale]

He thought he could breath water

[tidal jacinth]

Bruh I'm getting spoilers

[glacial whale]

He was very thirsty

[crude dew]

yeah. not sure why some people call them comics, why some people call them graphic novels, for me, it's literally a comic

[tidal jacinth]

Idk it's just the name

[glacial whale]

I say novel

[tidal jacinth]

Anyway Who wrote the dam letter

[lucid pumice]

Comics are the medium, graphic novel is the format.

[tidal jacinth]

Global warning can't write

[glacial whale]

To many big words

[crude dew]

global warming literally murders the planet, it doesn't need the ability of writing

[tidal jacinth]

And most importantly, why havent they fixed the dam xor gate in sn?

[tidal jacinth]

There was a letter

[crude dew]

show?

[tidal jacinth]

No

The sn event

[crude dew]

no, I mean...show the letter

[tidal jacinth]

Do you even know

[crude dew]

I don't, that's why I ask

[tidal jacinth]

Oh

[crude dew]

until now you kept saying "uh proof or didn't happen" now you don't show a letter? 😄

[tidal jacinth]

It just said smth about stealing the snow

I'll try to find it

[glacial whale]

Your letter evaporated with the snow

[tidal jacinth]

It's on YT

All your sno belongs to me

Basically

[noble viper]

It's a reference to an old video game

[tidal jacinth]

And It wasnt the neighbor

[tidal jacinth]

So?

Who did it

[glacial whale]

Has to be you

[noble viper]

Who did what

[glacial whale]

You stole it

[tidal jacinth]

The snow

[glacial whale]

Yes

[tidal jacinth]

Who wrote the letter

Who stole it

[noble viper]

Well the Butcher skin dude

[tidal jacinth]

Goddam

That's the neighbor

Ted didnt do it

[glacial whale]

Enzo

[tidal jacinth]

Alright forget it

I guess we couldnt figure it out

[glacial whale]

I don’t know probably a new character

Or not

[tidal jacinth]

That was a year ago

[glacial whale]

Still

[tidal jacinth]

I'll try to find some message talking about snow

I just found people doing some weird event

Idk i havent played sn for a while

[glacial whale]

Oh is this a SN thing

[tidal jacinth]

Yeah

I might have done it idk

[glacial whale]

Sorry I haven’t touched SN in a long time

[tidal jacinth]

Anyway

I'm still mad about the xor gate

I asked them to add logic gates

They did it

[glacial whale]

Oh is that a pc thing

Like le

[tidal jacinth]

And they never fixed the xor gate

It's LE yeah

[glacial whale]

I’m just a Xbox guy so I wouldn’t know to much about that

[tidal jacinth]

Doesnt matter

You can still do it

It just takes 7 logic gates instead of 1

[glacial whale]

What are you talking about

[tidal jacinth]

In le

[glacial whale]

Yea it’s not on Xbox

It’s a pc thing

[tidal jacinth]

Wait really?

Dam

[glacial whale]

Yea

Unfortunately

[tidal jacinth]

Anyway I asked them to add logic gates

For connecting things you know

And they screwed up one of them

The xor gate works like an or gate

[glacial whale]

Oh so they added it but it’s a little broken

[tidal jacinth]

Yeah

Again you can still do anything

It just takes a lot more effort

[unkempt sleet]

#secret-neighbor

[tidal jacinth]

I did an addition calculator once

[glacial whale]

Right sorry

[crude dew]

alternate neighbors becoming canon 😳

[tidal jacinth]

Oh yeah we kind of went off track here

Back to the lore

Imbir is the bakers cat

[glacial whale]

Neighbor just has a big family

[tidal jacinth]

Did she adopt imbir or has It been with her its entire life?

[glacial whale]

Idk I guess she just adopted her

Book 8 right there

[tidal jacinth]

Lol

[glacial whale]

Imbirs pov

3 pages

[tidal jacinth]

The entire book is just filled with meows

Also is imbir a girl or a boy

[glacial whale]

Girl?

[tidal jacinth]

I'm used to calling "her" to all cats

[glacial whale]

Idk

[tidal jacinth]

It looks like a male but, anything goes

[crude dew]

aww

3 children (one being ex-son), alternate-selfs...the usual

[unkempt sleet]

[tidal jacinth]

I don't wanna get political but non binary isn't a gender

It's a cat

It can't identify as anything to begin with

It's either born a male or a female

[lucid pumice]

Non-binary just means identifying as anything other than the binary sexes/male or female.

[tidal jacinth]

Yeah

[crude dew]

it was topic earlier today, so let's skip it
gender not specified
that's it

[tidal jacinth]

So we don't know

[crude dew]

yes, we don't know.

[tidal jacinth]

I'm inclined to calling imbir a her, but it looks more like a male

Is imbir a gender neutral name?

[crude dew]

Imbir is the....it's...a plant
Ginger

if you google translate it, it'll give ginger as result

[tidal jacinth]

From what language

[crude dew]

idk
leave it on language detect

[tidal jacinth]

Polish

Does polish have gender specific articles?

Although It doesnt necessarily mean it's the same gender as the word itseld

Its gender is gendger

Im googling it and it seems to be a male name

Maybe the color pattern says something

[unkempt sleet]

I feel like youre looking too deep
It's just a cat. Doesnt have any gender

[oblique drum]

imbir is good when i add some of it to tea..
do not take out of context.....

[tidal jacinth]

Dam

Based on the name and the head shape, maybe even the size, id say imbir is a male

But again it's just a design choice

It doesnt have to be a male

Unless they modeled... "DetIails" on the rear end of imbir, there's no substancial evidence

[crude dew]

uh
erm
no

[ripe berry]

AlexN (probably accidentally) called Imbir a he here: #hello-neighbor message

[tidal jacinth]

I knew it

[ripe berry]

This is evidence Imbir is a Male

[glacial whale]

Well I’m going to stick with calling imbir a her because that’s what I’ve called her

[glacial whale]

I love imbir but I want more cats. We already have like 4 dogs

[violet python]

imbir identifies has a good kitty

[ripe berry]

Imbir's gender is Cat/God

[violet python]

https://tenor.com/view/madison-r-cute-kitty-cute-cat-gif-25737639

[half harbor]

looks like the kid dressed up as a crow you run into in the intro of HN2 is missing, interesting

[hazy slate]

they aren't the same

[half harbor]

oh

[shell gull]

My Guess Is HN2 Takes Place Literally After Act 2, That’s Why We Hear Aaron Break Something In The Neighbors House When Nicky Escapes Then Wouldn’t You Know It, Aaron Escapes In The Intro Cutscene, That Also Explains Why The Cops Arrive The Day After, Cuz The Day Before Nicky Escaped, Ran Home And Told His Parents.

Problem Is Is The Intro Cutscene Is In Daytime But It Changes Sometimes So Yeah

[manic dirge]

alex said imbir was a he i think

[crude atlas]

yes

[young kayak]

I would ask you to post in #off-topic , here is for the game lore

[cobalt iron]

yea i know

was just about to say that\

[crude atlas]

sorry

[young kayak]

Ty, and be careful

[crude dew]

how many HN servers are you in, Jesus

[remote plover]

he obviously doesnt know how to use folders

[neat locust]

WARNING: This following post will have spoilers to the second game. Please do not continue reading if u wish to have a spoiler-less HN2 Experience.

||So, what if, everything in HN1, was not real. So you might think? Why wouldn't it be real? So, HN1 is divided in multiple parts. What are they called? ACTS. The first game, probably is just a movie.

Now you might ask, ok, but what about HN2? In the second game, the player is named Quentin, a journalist. We know that he saw the event (Aaron being taken inside the basement) and most probably reported everything, in like a newspaper or a TV News Report.

What if, HN1 was just an movie adaptation, of the ideas in HN2?||

Please excuse me if any of this post didn't make any sense!

[ripe berry]

Ok, let me explain how this is wrong

In Hello Neighbor: Hide and Seek, Missing Pieces, and Hello Neighbor: Diaries Nicky is established as a real person that lives next-door (Books 2 and 3 are no longer canon so...)

Also in Welcome to Raven Brooks Nicky is real

In Hello Neighbor: Diaries we see Nicky enter the basement proving that that actually happened

In Secret Neighbor they're making a plan to save someone and the lack of Nicky implies that that someone is Nicky, meaning Nicky gets trapped down there like at the end of Act 1

HN2's Intro lines up with what's known to be real in Act 2's ending (Aaron being out of the basement distracting Ted from going after Nicky) (tho Quentin is also distracting Ted now)

HN2 Day 1 is not that long after as we can hear the Guest outside the banner as we wake up like it just got done adding the bandages on our head

Hello Neighbor: Diaries proves Nicky lives in RB as a adult like in the end of HN1

and the Box in HND's intro implies he's moved back into the house and hasn't just been living there

[dry depot]

Yea

[ripe berry]

Also SN makes The Thing a real thing

[neat locust]

Thanks for letting me know! I really knew that there would be very many contradictory things to my post.

[ripe berry]

(real as in it(The Thing/Shadow Man) exists, it's just a personification of fears and trauma)

Thus explaining how HN1 is real and not a movie

[ripe berry]

No Problem

Tho your theory could end up being right depending on how much is changed in this HN1 Remake they(tinyBuild) are apparently planning

Because the remake could tell a entirely different story

[ripe berry]

WtRB also is said to connect the stories of Acts 1/2, Secret Neighbor, and Hello Neighbor 2

Making Act 2 real

So while exact details (State of Neighbor's House and dates) may be different, the game is still verymuch canon

[hazy slate]

I don't think the guest is the one who helps Quentin

I think Ted is the one who does that

[shell gull]

That’s True, Theodore Is The Person Behind The CrowMan Suit, He Wouldn’t Just Leave Quentin Knocked Out Next To The Barn, And He Wouldn’t Want Him To Know He Was The One Who Put Him Back At The Banner.

[shell gull]

Ted And The CrowMan Are The Same Person.

Also The Reason I’m Saying CrowMan Is Cuz Ted Isn’t The Actual Guest, The Guest Is A Consciousness, The Guest Used Ted As A Host To Interact With The Physical World, Ted Is Now Helping The Guest With Stealing Things From People, By Dressing Up As The CrowMan, And Is Also Making Teds Agony Worse.

The CrowMan Is A Form Of The Guest Itself

A Simple Way Is The Guest Uses People With Agony, He Uses Ted Cuz He Has Agony, To Steal From People, Tricking Him Into Thinking By Taking From People They Will Know How It Feels To Lose Something, REALLY The Guest Is Doing This To Spread More Agony In People So He Can Spread.

[wicked heath]

WTH

[manic dirge]

hn1 was real

act 1 was completely real

act 2 was a distorted memory

and part of act 3 is real

but most of act 3 isnt real

[hazy slate]

They are not.

Ted's a smart guy, but he can't invent a machine to appear in dreams

also ||the guest appears just a few seconds after ted hit Quentin's window, absolutely no time for Ted to change clothes||

[manic dirge]

the guest possesed ted but thats after hn2

[hazy slate]

@shell gull ?

[shell gull]

Ahem…Cough…Cough

[hazy slate]

This isn't proof, that's Regina just making assumptions

[shell gull]

Don’t Forget In GN2, They Almost Ran Into The Guest And Seconds Later The Neighbor Appears In A Truck

[shell gull]

What’s This Then?

Where Did He Get The Costume

[hazy slate]

possession.

[shell gull]

Ik That, I’m Saying He Made The Costume During the events Of SN, He Isn’t The Guest Itself But, He Is Being Used By It Until He Decided To Go Against The Guest, The Guest Got Angry And Took Over His Body.

[unkempt sleet]

Guest literally drowned him a few pages ago

[shell gull]

Exactly

Then He Took His Body Over

[hazy slate]

Probably from the guest, also like you said, the guest runs pris and regina off the road and seconds later ted comes in a truck in a completely different outfit

same goes with HN2 but the events are swapped

[shell gull]

Yeah, Do You Know How Quick The Guest Is?, Who Isn’t To Say That’s How He Switches So Fast.

[ripe berry]

Just guessing bc we hear what sounds like the Guest in that cutscene

[shell gull]

And If The Crowman Isn’t The Neighbor Then Who?

[ripe berry]

Crowman isn't anyone

It's it's own entity

[shell gull]

Ik Im Talking About The Costume

[ripe berry]

I know

[hazy slate]

Theodore is a human, Humans can't change into a totally different outfit in the speed of light

[hazy slate]

Who is not the question, The question is what.

[ripe berry]

It doesn't NEED to possess someone, it can maintain a physical form for some time before having to leave that form

[ripe berry]

This is why it disappears so suddenly in GN2 when that happens

[shell gull]

I’m So Confused Someone Explain The Guest To Me Again

[ripe berry]

(or that's my guess as to why, I honestly have no clue myself if I'm right or not)

[shell gull]

So Wait The Guest Is A Consciousness Correct?

[ripe berry]

Yes

[shell gull]

And It Uses People To Interact With The Physical World Correct?

[ripe berry]

I personally believe it uses people to maintain contact with the physical world then it using people to interact with the physical world

It can enter the physical world for short periods of time but needs to possess something to stay inside the world

[shell gull]

So Then If Thats True How Does Ted Get The Costume Did He Just Snatch It Off Or Something

[ripe berry]

The Costume is kinda like a symbol of possession

[shell gull]

Ok Then

[shell gull]

But During The Events Of HN2 Up To GN2 Is The Guest Using Mr. Peterson Not Possession But Using

[frail ferry]

crow man is its own entity its body is different then ted or anyone it makes crow noises though you can use a animal noise maker.

[shell gull]

Ik But It’s Also A Consciousness

[frail ferry]

lets say agree to disagree

[ocean berry]

whos ted

[last tundra]

theodore peterson (the neighbor)

[tawdry marsh]

Hi, i lost my scissors in first stage. what can i do?

[hybrid spruce]

Hi guys. Are there any news about mobile HN2?

[dry depot]

Guys this is about lore not walkthrough channel

Go take that stuff somewhere else

[half harbor]

is the new animated series canon (the one premiering right now on youtub)

[unkempt sleet]

Yep

[half harbor]

happy humble's burger farm is connected then

[opal steeple]

nah it's just a reference

there's at least two more references to tB franchises

like speedrunners and totally reliable delivery service

[ripe berry]

#hello-neighbor message

It's officially a plot point

One of the references are at least

[crude dew]

I'm trying to forget the story of the second comic

[dusk sedge]

the guest is pratically a spirit you know thoese ghosts that u can interact with and touch?

kinda like that but they are very real

[lucid pumice]

Have Leslie or Nielson been given any specific characteristics? Had an idea involving them, but I want to be sure it’s close to their intended personalities.

[ripe berry]

If I remember correctly D. Leslie (yes I'm using full known names) wants to move to a big city but is stuck with the job in RB and finds the job boring (hardly able to keep himself up (hence why he drinks coffee)), meanwhile Keith F. Nielsen loves his current job in Raven Brooks. Also Nielsen seems to like Gerda's donuts a little bit TOO much that it can distract him from doing his job

[lucid pumice]

Perfect, thanks.

[ripe berry]

I think that's all we know about their personalities

[lyric zephyr]

I still like separating Keith and Nielsen as basically 2 different versions of the character

F. Nielsen > Keith Newsom

like cmon Nielsen had a whole story put to uncovering his name and now it's scrapped for him to just be called Keith

[lucid pumice]

Is anyone here experienced with writing? Starting work on a one-shot, and I don’t know many people who care enough about this series to proofread it for me.

[tidal jacinth]

I'm not the most experienced reader out there but I'd love to give it a shot

[hexed canopy]

I figured out something rlly important

[cold basin]

Esse servidor é só pra quem fala em inglês?

[glacial whale]

#portuguese-chat

[cold basin]

Thanks

[dry depot]

What is it

[hexed canopy]

idk if my game glitched but there was this like egg lookin thing that like broke my game

[rigid raven]

Why didn't Nicky ever run I to forest protectors when he was going to the GAAP? Are we to assume they were all in jail?

[ripe berry]

Fun Fact: The Books are no longer canon so it doesn't matter

[wicked heath]

wait what

[dry depot]

Yea what

I bought all those books for nothing

[ripe berry]

Welcome to Raven Brooks retcons pretty much every book already

Because it's story "Doesn't adapt well to animation"

[dry depot]

OK ngl I don't know what a "retcon" is

[ripe berry]

According to Google a retcon is (in a film, television series, or other fictional work) a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency:

Or in English instead of Dictonary

It's basically when they change a story from a pre-existing piece of media for that thing

[rigid raven]

If this is true I'm just going to give up on the AS

[ripe berry]

#hello-neighbor message

[rigid raven]

They already built such a rich story to build on. Why not write within the parameters of it?

[ripe berry]

This (above) says it's true

#hello-neighbor message

This also says it's true

They just straight up scrapped pretty much everything that came before to make work better for animation

[wicked heath]

if any of it is true, i will pretend like AS is just not canon at all

[ripe berry]

It is

GN Chat

However if AS is non-canon then HN2 is non-canon

[strange flame]

Honestly, that would make HN2’s story easier to understand

[wicked heath]

oh ik why books arent canon: Dianes design aint based on the games! There i solved it.

[dry depot]

There's probably more than that but thats one reason

[wicked heath]

(joke)

[ripe berry]

it's a pick your poison: either Books non-canon or all future HN Media non-canon

(Sorry just came back to finish what I was saying so I could get my mind off it before heading to bed)

[shell gull]

I Mean I’d Rather Have The Game Design, Without It That Would Mean Mya’s Adopted, Cuz She Would Be The Only One Who’s Ginger.

[wooden orbit]

Hey guys I have a question. I just want to get opinions on who or what the guest is, based on books or game lore.

I still am really confused

[hazy slate]

He's some kind of entity, He uses ted as a body.

[tribal talon]

ok can anyone basically sum up what happens after the events of secret neighbor?

[lyric zephyr]

Kids sit in their friends back yard to imagine the events of saving their friends, but don’t even actually break in successfully (if at all)
HN1 Act 2 happens and yadda yadda

That part of the story hasn’t really been explored yet

[tribal talon]

so basically the part of the rocket event?

[lyric zephyr]

Yep

The ending of the rocket event is the only canon part outside of the lobby

[tribal talon]

ok another question, can you also sum up what the guest really is/came from?

[lyric zephyr]

We don’t know honestly. All we know is it’s supernatural, and it isn’t human

[tribal talon]

but has human like body proportions

[lyric zephyr]

Yep. He looks kinda human, but isn’t really. Especially considering how long his arms are

[tribal talon]

some say he's mr peterson but I say not due to one of the books he's being attacked from the guest

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah, current theory is the Guest can possess people

[tribal talon]

does the guest relate to "the thing" by any chance?

[lyric zephyr]

Nope, at least not in the known lore. The Thing is just how fear is represented in HN

[tribal talon]

kk

[crude dew]

the story with the books is funnier than you'd think.
when Nicky was in RB in books 1-3, the idea of the cult didn't exist yet. that's why he doesn't even think about them. the mayak is only mentioned in book 3, because during that time, it started to be important and they wanted it to be in the books. it is legit just put into one sentence. that's it.
you cannot convince me, that a little boy, who discovered every abandoned building so far, didn't want to explore such a thing, like an abandoned, creepy lighthouse.

books 4-6 include the mayak and the cult. the mayak clearly had importance during the HG era (let's say the time Ike and all that amusement park stuff happens in the books) but later, HG was scrapped (yes, it was. yes.) and so was Ike (I still headcanon that he was going to return, because his death this way is so meaningless, it makes him such an unimportant character, did Carly seriously put him in the books, just to kill someone? cod 🙂 ) so he just died.

then comes the Norman Darby era, Norman is described in a way he exactly looks like HN2 Quentin, but still, he isn't him. Norman D, Ike, Theodore and a few other people fight against the cult. Norman was also probably a time traveller, and based on the books, there were 2 Quentins then.
nobody on the planet can convince me, that there were 2 random male nightguards, and two random male journalists with similar properties, lol
I've been writing since age 10 hello

Alex said the books didn't work well in the animated series...I mean...sure? idk what was exactly the problem, if he wants to rework, then do it, sure, we have 47836483 storylines anyway, it doesn't matter, guys.

so technically, now Trinity just replaces Nicky entirely, she even stole his brand new parents, there is probably a cult in the cartoon as well, Peterson still isn't a murderer like some say, and that's where we are currently.
thanks for coming to my TED talk, please feel free to take a free magnet, while you leave.

[dry depot]

Wait is HN1 still canon

[loud tartan]

yes

[ripe berry]

(and by Books I meant Books 1-6 + Guidebook)

[ripe berry]

Yes

[ripe berry]

"Peterson still isn't a murderer" Then explain how (I circled what I want to note here)

This is implying that Ted shot the nailgun in that direction, most likely being the cause of the Store Clerk's death

(and yes I know it's JUST Oil around him but that's because I don't have tinyClub so I don't got the High Qaulity Uncensored Version)

(The Script calls it blood so I'm treating it as blood (Hence why I immediately said it's the Store Clerk's Death))

[dry depot]

You can go on youtube and like get a video of the uncensored version

Also

[ripe berry]

I just wanted a Higher Quality image to use

[dry depot]

Oh k

Also what's tiny club

[ripe berry]

The Script in Question:

[ripe berry]

Basically YT Membership

[dry depot]

Oh

Ok

But yea Mr. Peterson is very much a killer

[ripe berry]

Yeah

[dry depot]

He always seems to find coins where people die

Even the real estate lady

Which he didn't kill

[ripe berry]

The Coins have got to be connected to the AS Version of the Forest Protectors

[dry depot]

Yea

[ripe berry]

(We know they still exist bc HN2)

[dry depot]

Ye

[ripe berry]

Perhaps they're meant to be Luck Devices

[dry depot]

It's kinda weird that a secret culture would have a whole room in the museum which is a public place

[dry depot]

I don't think so

Luck devices do exist

[ripe berry]

I know I said Books 4-6 are non-canon but there isn't really a lot to say they aren't canon

[dry depot]

Yea also I don't want to believe they aren't Canon cause you know MONEY

[ripe berry]

They could pretty easily just say a few details are different and then it'd work in the currently known AS Canon

(Like obviously Trinity's not involved anymore but is instead replaced by another character (Perhaps Ivan?))

[dry depot]

I'm not sure

I don't know a lot about characters that are put to the side

Like Ivan

Or the bagger

Do we know the baggers full name

[ripe berry]

Only his First Name

Which is Delroy

[dry depot]

Ok

That helps

[ripe berry]

However we don't really know much about him in general

[dry depot]

I mean

He's not in any of the shown episodes so far soooooo

[ripe berry]

He makes a cameo in Episode 2

I mean we do know Delroy seems to bully Nicky based off this image that has been shared

[dry depot]

Yea

True

Wait episode 2

When

I don't remember him

[ripe berry]

You can see him in the background when

and

As I said

Just a cameo, not a full appearance

[dry depot]

Yea

Ok

[ripe berry]

Bagger's first larger role in the series is in Episode 3 (Cite notation:#hello-neighbor message)

[dry depot]

But he didn't interact so not important right now

[ripe berry]

He starts interacting at Episode 3

[ripe berry]

As shown in the message I linked here above

[dry depot]

Yea only when episode 3 comes out

[ripe berry]

So at the moment Bagger is just a random Background Character

He's only important in SN

and implied in HE

(And will be important in HNVR when that comes out)

Hello Neighbor: Diaries will probably be modified to feature AS lore clips

When that gets a new soft-launch/release

We'll figure out how canon Missing Pieces is still when HND comes out

and other books

[dry depot]

Ok

[ripe berry]

At the moment we assume little to none since HND could always be changed before release

[crude dew]

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-nathan-fillion-castle-stumped-gif-5469000

[ripe berry]

Yep Peterson is now officially a Murderer

[manic dirge]

he is?

[manic dirge]

are you talking about in as epsisode 2?

[ripe berry]

Yes.

[grave kayak]

so is quentin like really scared of spiders and spiderwebs or are the spiderwebs in HN2 just... that strong that he has to cut through them instead of just waving them away

[ripe berry]

https://tenor.com/view/good-question-meme-shrek-gif-16886109

(I know makeagif.com I just grabbed the first GIF I saw)

[grave kayak]

i think its funnier if quentin rlly just went out of his way every time to get scissors since he dont wanna touch the webs

[strange flame]

I mean who would want to touch spiderwebs?

[manic dirge]

but was the ep 1 death teds fault or no

[ripe berry]

Does Ted control crows?

[opal steeple]

scared of spiders yet not scared to straight up grab things through solid glass

[ripe berry]

Same answer as if the ep. 1 death was Ted's fault

[crude dew]

I wanted to explain this whole murderer thing, using previous examples and storywriting "types" but honestly, it'd be too much effort

you'll see

[opal steeple]

makes total sense, could do it irl any day

exactly

oh and he's not afraid to break and enter, especially with a COP, yet he's scared of an itsy bitsy spider

[rigid raven]

Are we to assume the reason Nicky never ran into a forest protector when visiting the GAAP is because they were in jail? Looking back at it I would assume Aaron or Mya would never go there alone in the middle of the night since they already knew about them

[shell gull]

Imagine He Had Some Like Trauma Of Spider Webs Or Something

Also Wait Is Ted A Murderer? Cuz In Episode 1 and 2 The Deaths Weren’t Really His Fault, First One Was The Crows Doing, Second One Ted Was Just Shopping Then He Bumped Into The Dead Body.

HOLD UP I Made A Connection

As We Know In HN2 There’s A Theory Of The Statue In The Museum Being A Prototype Guest And They Filled It Up With The Golden Apple Coins As Offering

[dry depot]

No he killed him

He shot the guy with a nail gun

[shell gull]

In AS We See Ted Is Collecting Golden Apple Coins From Dead People, If The Theory Of Ted Being Forest Protector Is True, What If The Golden Apple Coins Weren’t Just Offerings, What If Each Coin Was A Soul, And They Filled The Statue As A Way To Bring Life, With The Souls.

[shell gull]

Oh Ok That’s Why He Took The Nail Gun Well Then

[dry depot]

your theory might be valid

But I think your looking to much into it

[shell gull]

True

But

What If When They Finally Summoned The Guest, We Know It Went Wrong, So When It Went Wrong They Stole The Keys To Make Sure No One Found Evidence Of The Guest Existence.

[dry depot]

How do we know it went wrong

[shell gull]

Well I’m Guessing Each Coin Possesses There Existence

[dry depot]

Also

That's not true

[shell gull]

Cuz The Guest Ran Off Into The Woods And Didn’t Obey Them

[dry depot]

K

[shell gull]

Well I Mean If Ghost Are Canon In GN1 Why Not In AS

[dry depot]

Someone said that

[shell gull]

Ik But My Guess It Was Forest Protector

[dry depot]

The forest protecters were in jail right when Nicky came to RV

So that theory is not true

Yea

But I don't think a crow would go out of its way to attack somebody

[shell gull]

Yeah But Remember The NPCs In HN2 Are Forest Protector Secretly probably Them Who Summoned The Guest That’s Why They Each Have A Stolen Key To Make Sure No One Finds Out

[dry depot]

I mean true

[shell gull]

Yeah But I’m Saying When They Die There Souls Are Still In Existence In The Coins

[dry depot]

Can somebody tell me who the forest protector members are

[shell gull]

True

[shell gull]

Of Course

Here Let Me List Them

Mayor Tavish

Officer Tapps

Gordon

Who Else

The NPCs In HN2

[dry depot]

So gurta the baker

Ngl I forgot her name

I really want somebody to confirm if the books still canon or not

No it was 1-6 that might not be canon

But I want like real confirmation

Somebody from the HN team to just say it directly

No hints or anything

Just say it

[shell gull]

Book 4-6 And 1,7 Are Canon, Book 2 And 3 ARE NOT CANON

Ik Made It A Bit Simpler

[dry depot]

Ol

Lol

[shell gull]

Who In The World Is Harold?

[dry depot]

Just glad it's not all the books aren't canon

[shell gull]

Everything In Book 1 S Canon Except Any Mention Or Thing About Trinity

Yup

Sucks

[ripe berry]

No he was in Book 5 if I remember right

[shell gull]

Imagine One Of The Boss Fights In HN3 Is Just HAROLD

[ripe berry]

Oh

Quit confusing me like that

[shell gull]

If It Was Book 6 Then Still Canon

[ripe berry]

Oh yeah it was Book 6

[shell gull]

But Still Imagine The Boss Fight In A Future HN Game Is Just Some Guy Named Harold

[ripe berry]

Me watching as the one who ||hit us in the back of the head in HN2's Ending|| is actually Harold and he's the Missing Journalist:

(/j)

[shell gull]

Lol

[dry depot]

Yea probably not true

[ripe berry]

It looks like a wrench to me

(I know I got this from YT but I have the game on Xbox and don't want to take 50 minutes trying to time the picture just right so that you can see it clearly) (HN2 Ending Spoilers)

That shape is clearly a Wrench

I'm just going with Wrench

[shell gull]

First Of All Gordon Got Arrested And Didn’t Recover Financially On The News And Didn’t Continue His Job

[ripe berry]

Gordon's original workplace doesn't even exist anymore

(I mean it's owned by another company-)

Note how the Banner has "4TV" on it

That's referring to Channel 4 News, the company Gordon Cleave worked at

But now it's the Raven Brooks Banner

and I don't think they of all companies would want him back

[undone echo]

hm

[dry depot]

Hmm what

Any new lore theory guys

[rigid raven]

Because they mention Trinity?

[dry depot]

Wait what's the problem with trinity

Is like trinity not a real person

[ripe berry]

No because they are/will(Most likely) be contradicted by Welcome to Raven Brooks

[dry depot]

K

[rigid raven]

I see

[tribal talon]

can someone explain to me what year time-lapse happens in hn (because the tv show messed it up with cellphones)

[lyric zephyr]

Every book except Reset Day has been contradicted by the AS

[lyric zephyr]

HN1, SN, H&S, and the books all take place in the 1990s. HN2 taking place in 1996
GN1 (Bosco Bay) takes place in the 1980s (likely the same year Aaron was born)
GN2 we have no idea really. Probably after HN2

The AS takes place like, in the 2010s to even current day

[shell gull]

In AS She Moves To Town After Book 1 So Any Mentions Wouldn’t Be Canon

[shell gull]

Early 2000s Actually

[lyric zephyr]

Nope.

They have modern smartphones with multiple cameras, and have legit used the word “Cringe” when making fun of Enzo

[ripe berry]

"A Bit Later"

(Literally 20 years or more later)

[ripe berry]

GN1 has been said to be in 1984 if I remember right

[crude dew]

the AS cancels every other storyline so far

still waiting for funny eye building to fix everything.

[lyric zephyr]

Yeah that’s right, couldn’t remember the exact year

1984 or 1985

[crude dew]

there's nothing to think about because of this. it's just yet another storyline.

that's why I keep saying, don't hold "canon??!!!" so tight to yourself, everyone

[unkempt sleet]

How do you think Mayak can fix everything?

[lyric zephyr]

I’m really thinking they’re just gonna use it as a storm machine tbh

Since the Mayak fixing everything was Nikita’s explanation

[crude dew]

Nikita said it will. like a year ago, but still, he did have an explanation to it.

and honestly, if Nikita cannot fix it, then noone can.

I think there was much more into the mayak

[unkempt sleet]

There was much more into Mayak
But the question is, "Is there still much more into Mayak?"

[lyric zephyr]

I highly doubt it

[crude dew]

well, yes, the mayak does exist
in another storyline
that's why I keep saying / shot

[lyric zephyr]

Since Books 4-6 featuring it aren’t used in the story, Nikita isn’t as much involved with HN anymore, and it hasn’t been present since HGA1

Even GN2 uses it just as a storm machine

[crude dew]

I still refuse to believe, that the ugly building from the comic was the mayak bruh

mayak look good 😔

[lyric zephyr]

It was a building Mr Peterson used to create weather

So essentially the Mayak

It was a weather station at least

[crude dew]

what if it was the other building from the books
idk how it was called

[lyric zephyr]

I don’t think there is another weather station?

[unkempt sleet]

Observatory?

[crude dew]

noo, the other building
similar to mayak
literally, they made two 🥹

raven brooks, more like urbex town

idk
someone just pointed out, that it was an entirely different building, and it's in HE too???

[lyric zephyr]

But I’m HE it’s a space theming and has a giant arena
In GN2, the building has nothing to do with space nor does it have an observatory

[crude dew]

what even is the story of HE? other than kids being in amusement park, where neighbor escaped (and he became even more handsome somehow )
and then they play tom and jerry

[lyric zephyr]

Tbh it looks like a real weather station

Weird short brick building

[crude dew]

yes

mayak family around the world

there was never just one

https://cdn.theculturetrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/1024px-nsa-station_teufelsberg_2009-650x435.jpg
this isn't a weather station btw, but it's still one of my favorites.

[manic dirge]

so AS is or isnt cannon?

[lyric zephyr]

Sadly it is canon, somehow

They’re forcing it to be canon when realistically it can’t be

[manic dirge]

they shoulve had old cellphones

[lyric zephyr]

Somehow the AS set in the 2010s is a prequel to HN2 set in 1996

[manic dirge]

like 2000s phones

[manic dirge]

how????

[lyric zephyr]

Because the writers want it to

That’s really the only reason

[manic dirge]

this mess up EVERYTHING

[lyric zephyr]

Destroying and decanonizing the books because “they didn’t translate well to animation”, and then making a show set in the 2010s take place before a game set in the 90s

[manic dirge]

and the layout in the ouse is different

theres a 3rd floor?

[lyric zephyr]

Not just the layout, they made
Trinity and Nicky direct neighbors

And they’re both across the street from Peterson

Trinity basically stole Nicky’s role and family

And Nicky is now obsessed with breaking in bc “murdered kids!!” As his ONLY character trait

[manic dirge]

yeah 😭

[lyric zephyr]

Legit he talks about nothing other than breaking into Peterson’s house

[manic dirge]

and now the neighbor is a murderer?

[lyric zephyr]

Not even that, seems like people just die around him

[latent cosmos]

Nicky should've been written like a actual human than a mindless robot

[manic dirge]

cuz of his bad luck

[lyric zephyr]

He was in the books! He had family history, he had interests in bands tech and had friends
His dad worked for the Raven Brooks Banner writing news articles, his Mom worked at the local university. Dad was funny and was the cook of the family

Jewish heritage, favorite bands, was actually friends with Aaron and Enzo

Now he doesn’t seem to know who Aaron and Mya are other than “Peterson’s dead kids!”

[latent cosmos]

GL

[manic dirge]

fr tho

[latent cosmos]

Nicky is soulless now

Give him his soul back

[manic dirge]

yeah 😭

[latent cosmos]

Or I will burn something down

BTW I wouldn't really want to do that

[shell gull]

That’s What I’m Saying, I Can’t Tell Myself That AS Is Canon I Just CANT Unless They Say He Was Friends With Aaron

[lyric zephyr]

Sadly, nobody is

Not even Enzo who was like Aaron’s friend in his book trilogy

Nobody even seems to know their names

They just call them Mr Peterson’s kids

[shell gull]

Technically They Haven’t Said AS Was Canon Or Not So There’s Still Hope

[lyric zephyr]

No they have

They said it ties directly into HN2 and ties Act 1, 2 and SN together

[shell gull]

Really?

[lyric zephyr]

Despite you could figure out how they connect with 5 minutes of thinking

Yep

[shell gull]

Well Technically Book 1 Is Still Canon So If You Fit It In Full Actual Storyline Nicky Is Still Friends With Aaron

Plus You Have HND

[lyric zephyr]

HND is now noncanon too thanks to the AS

AS decanonizes ALL of the books

[shell gull]

WHYYYY

[lyric zephyr]

Alex CEO himself says they’re not using the book story anymore bc “doesn’t translate well to animation”

[shell gull]

Really Not Even The Prequel Books Are Canon

[lyric zephyr]

Nope

No books are canon

[shell gull]

I’m Done… All Those Theory Ideas Everything Down The Drain For Some Marketing

Well

Did They Say Everything In AS Is Canon Or Technically Are Both Books And AS Canon In Their Own Ways?

[ripe berry]

I mean...

https://twitter.com/aNichiporchik/status/1605606500914716674?t=q9Yauxm0_ouaVOM2y1uDGg&s=33

Alex Nichiporchik (@aNichiporchik)

Over 2 million people have played Hello Neighbor 2 since launch. The team is committed to continuous updates to the game and both this and the Animated Series are tying into a shared universe. Checkout Episode 2:

https://t.co/Lp3zMl2bFr

Twitter · Dec 21, 2022, 4:49 PM

They said AS is canon to HN2

[shell gull]

But It Isn’t Technically Canon To The Full Timeline Correct?

[lyric zephyr]

It is