#lore-discussion
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Nobody’s gonna see them??
No clue
Um imagination is haunting them with guilt for ditching Nicky
Prob thinking about Vandals
And Aaron
But the Vandals would live in town when they’re not vandaling
Maybe he got delusional and put them there
yeah
I think the bigger question you should be asking is why they go to the park in the night..if they just imagine it in day time like whaat?
SN kids are something else
No clue
the day thing is just for clarity
probably
like would you want to play the entire thing with dark lighting
Imagine HE in the dark, that'd be a pain
Also, there’s another thing
What the hell is the Observatory lol
It’s not the Mayak is it?
Nope
But somehow it’s generating the Mayak lightning stuff but then Ted just slaps a giant robot spider
a little bit away from it
HE is just bizarre
That's their imagination thinking it's the observatory and not the Weather Station
This isn't imagination though...all the cutscenes are irl
That’s not even imagination, we get a cutscene which are usually set in reality for HE, like the one w Ted carrying a mannequin
Evedything else is imagination
And it was at night too unlike day everywhere else
It's a cool design fr
Well then maybe it's either just perspective tricks or the Ourple lights are somehow attracting the lightning as well
*Purple
I don't fricking know
I think Ted just placed those on top, we usually see them on hand built things in the park
HE as a whole is just weird
yeah
Ted with a whole different appearance and haircut, built off of SN Neighbor (even with giant hands)
4/5 of the game is imagination,
Enzo Maritza Inventor and Trinity just don’t give a damn about Nicky and instead want to make a funny car
And then the weird Mayak Observatory mix
And to top it all off they smush in some time loops
Remember a section of the story/game was removed so there's a plot hole for the ending and sandbox 
Yeah, Plot Hole moment
If they never add it back I'd be pretty disappointed
Which part was cut out?
breaking and entering vs funy car
silly vehicle.
Silly little car > Missing friend who warned us about the man who’s most likely to kidnap him right before he disappeared
So they ended up removing the spooky mansion section (it was mentioned when early access came out, it can be seen on the map in leve 1, it could also bee seen in the backround of the early access lobby, and is refered to on the blueprint)
We get all these except #4 (mansion) we never get the statue yet it's seen in the ending
They actually forget to update the cutscene of going to wild west with ted carrying the mannequin, you can still see it 😢
In the back
RIP haunted house section
I guess they’re just, done with HE development lol
Removing areas that were planned and such
Don't forget they still haven't finished the random Lucy clubhouse lore thing in sandbox
Some people have gotten 8/9 codes and it just won't open with all combinations
I'm hoping they add back models from early access and level designs when the steam release comes if ever (waterpark my beloved)
I'm happy they brought back Ducky so that's a point for the devs
hi
List of unused stuff:
Teacup ride, Swan ride sign, all watefpark levels, wooden whale, various water slides and waterslide towers, lawn chair for pool, giant go kartz helmet, Giant tire buddy statue, mens and womens changing rooms for pool, ticket booths for pool, golden ducky from pool, water slide minigame, various pirate themed models like the volcano coaster ride and pirate ferris wheel, many wheels and gizmos for building, spooky mansion and all haunted house props such as ghost cut outs dead tree etc. There are many more.
😢
Also more unused stuff can be seen in the latest art station post with models that never appeared in game
HE got butchered hard
I think it's that Nicky already escaped, because when we go to Nicky's house in the beta we close off the case.
That’s fair, but then again the Beta intentionally removes spoilers for the full game
hmmm, yes good point but I'm theorizing off the stuff we have.
I could be wrong, I could be right
Honestly we can just wait for full game, not far at all
But the beta takes place during act 2
So Nicky is still in the basement
And Aaron I think
The Beta doesn’t really take place at any time, it’s noncanon
I am planning to (after HN2 comes out of course) make a video that tries it's best to coherently set up the HN timeline
This is a small prototype of the first section of that video
Wondering if I got anything wrong
(And yes I am using Google Slides to prototype the video, don't ask why)
I still wonder if the Guest and the FPs have any connection
they've never been mentioned to, but they're too similar to not be connected
Also I realized I went a bit fast for the text in the prototype here
(In the final version it'll be me talking and there will actually be audio)
(and yes it'll be a voice reveal)
i love the fire
I think that neighbor is a turtle
no
Yulia literally confirmed in the BTS video that Detective, Brave, and Leader were always meant to be Enzo, Maritza and Trinity
tB gave the book desc of the characters to AS animators, they designed the pilot version of the characters, and those designs were given to hologryph, and they designed the classes
@lyric zephyr got it?
what
that makes no sense
what makes no sense?
I think they're referring to how the AS designs came before the SN designs
But I'm not sure
well if
they gave this already existing design to the team to create brave
how come they don't look anything alike!
Really wish they had kept this design for her
or maybe it was because the character design for brave was completely different but they decided to make it a completely different character!
"confirmed"
Yulia told that
she wouldnt lie to us
also you're saying that
they gave the AS people the design to create the character but like
SN came way before that...?
none of them look like the original
except for Mya kinda
remind me why they keep making every character possible white
Cause
Mayor isnt white
I think he meant already existing characters
that's not what I'm talking about
Maritza is hispanic, she looked hispanic, but now she's just white
where was it confirmed that she is hispanic?

so she looks white to you in the book image?
she doesnt
yeah thought so
Lore Master is colorblind confirmed?
its prob just the AS animators who messed up Maritza's design
Bruv
what even happened here I won't ask
Also Maritza still has her hispanic look and original design in reset day
So it's just a game thing I guess
Jumßcare
it was described she has brown hair
it wasnt mentioned she was dark tho
so
it's because she's meant to be
but apparently in AS and SN they don't like that
She also has her brown eyes too. It's her original design (better one)
we could prob keep it that she dyed her hair and wears contact lens in SN
HN2 will prob also not like that if Maritza is in HN2
there isn't really a reason for her to be in HN2
That is the most lame excuse ever
She spray painted herself duuh
Lore Master more like Excuse Master /j
Coulor?
color
could we change topic ?
yes pls
Lets theorize about the lore of the demo
No lore it's all in Quentin's head basement will have a giant toy cause funny
I bet that's what will happen
uh
Aaron had it
It's HN1, everything is weird
This will be a real battle
simple, it wasn't actually there
hmmmm
Weird
srsly, why is this chicken and bunny sooo much in the advertising for the demo
Cause funny! Toys are funny the community needs to find it funny!
they're alive
Laugh at them NOW
LMAO
no
Yes
do they have any significance?
they're alive
Prob not
they're taking over the neighbor's house
The bot too
What has he done
He shrunk the inside
he is the king
is this actually gonna be in the demo?
He made the archways his size
I mean how would we know
most likely not
Why is there a purple light
why not
Where is it coming from
lamp
do these animal toys have any significance for the full game?
why would they
It's to give a spoopy fell
No cuz the demo is a self-contained story
Fr though the drawings in the park in HE should be talked about more there are so many.
Wow meaingless drawings
Mfw HE has more vandal then current HN2
HE is not cannon I think
What have you done
Its not
3 days until the goofy ahh demo
imagine if we get a reference to Lucy in HN2
We probably will
I feel like Lucy's mom/dad will become important to HN2 and/or AS
why
Who is lucy yi
Ok
Dont do that
They keep trying to make Lucy Yi more important for some reason, even tho unless this is the case there's almost no reason to do so
Lucy (she's dead)
When did she die
Summer 1992
they're really not
other than easter eggs
what happened to her legs
ghost
Ik
Exact date is confusing bc in Book 6, it happens the same day the GAAP opens, while in Book 1 it's 2 weeks after the GAAP opens
It's prob cuz of the new writers
True
other than random easter eggs of her in HE and SN she has no importance
and I don't see why she would since it happened ages ago and nothing important about it came up ever
yeah
Wow that was like 1000 centruies ago LOL
Her death got the Golden Apple Amusement Park shut down
I expect Lucy to get a reference in HN2, but, I dont think shes gonna have any importance
Hopefully they don't give her too much importance
Her only importance RN is this
oh did I say the Golden Apple Park, I meant the whole company
Michael i actually thought the rubber chicken in your pfp was a gun
lol
is she gun?
Is she gone? (dead)
Yes Maya is dead
It’s nobody’s as far as we know
Guys it's MITH house §!1l!1!1!1!!1
mfw background house😱
Me when copy-pasted houses
Well I thought maybe it has lore sense it has some extra probs around.
Me when I sick of copy and paste:
._.
Maybe they're relatives?
The Beta isn't canon either. It was designed to have no spoilers for the full game.
Well I think it's a good thing. Early Access builds & Demos shouldn't spoil the full game's story.
Agreed. I think a lot of people where a little dissatisfied with act 3 in the first game being the beta house
ike was killed by a forest protector
It was an alpha
Whats a forest protector ?
Bruh
I don’t know all of the lore man
All I know it’s those people with the raven masks
But what do they do exactly ?
there very sus people
Imposters ?
Ok
Is the guest a forest protector ?
I’m guessing yes
Especially when he has a raven mask
i think
O
The guest is not a forest protector
Or at least not the og ones as they got busted
It’s easy to think so based on the drawings and descriptions in the books (4-6). They’re more of an urban legend if that helps.
I have not finished book 7 yet so I don’t know if they’re referenced in that one.
Yeah, the guest is its own thing
in the latest novel doesn't it reveal the guest is mr peterson?
Not sure. I'm still reading.
It's more than just "he's the neighbor"
Who’s excited for the demo?
24 more hours until demo
up to interpretation for now
physically, most likely so
Yeah I’m like, very very certain the Guest is not Mr Peterson
I like to think the Guest is a real forest protector. Not a part of the cult/group, but he’s what the cult based their ideals and costumes after
Have you read Graphic Novel 2? Just asking so I don't give you spoilers for it
giant birb
Here to steal your trash and your family
and your body
No
it would be cool if it was true
Cult are cool, guest is cool so worshipping the guest could be cool
Me when this server made a #941660118108471316
literally who else
Dude calls "them", and he literally dug something that belonged to the FPs. Why would he then hide the pieces in his wallet
who else other than him and Ted knows about the tunnels
Its also confirmed not Ted, since he picked up his kids in the forest during Ikes murder
ike has all the reasons to be murdered by an fp
Yep
It was the chicken
Proof?
actually, i prefer this headcanon
spoilers: || yes ||
PLUS it is implied EVERYTHING that went wrong in raven brooks are due to the forest protector. thats the plot
We don't kill if we don't have reason
The accidents in the park, the storms, the rumors about Roger and Adelle, Ikes death
they hide his body in a PEPPERMINT vat @tribal talon !! The latest candy flavor for golden apples!
Tasty
and if I remember right the Golden Apple Corp. is owned by the Tavishes, so the Golden Apple Corp. Wouldn't be able to say that anything is wrong
Since the Tavishes could easily censor whatever the GAC tries to release about his death
More easily then if they didn't own the GAC
Diane Death: Am I a joke to you
nicky theme boys
It's on the Stream
Cool
And it's gone
creaking noise...
But it's 12 am for me and my parent will hear the music and kill me
ah
andy parents
andy is your dad??
Yes
Patategone is named Andy comfirned
He's gone
No, my name is potator
I'm an ai
But dumb
So an a
chicken at the front door
It's me Going to kill ted
Checking this stream is literally like checking the cameras in FNaF
Ike 2:
💀
And then the mayor will mayo the pepper mint
Even worse
:Skuller_with_crossbones:
☠️
@round geode edited
I am edited
MFW he's a "a"
Yes
I'm an artificial intelligence (ai)
But I'm dumb so
I'm an artificial (a)
Why was the mayor scared to go to the fp rituals?
O right
Policeman
I'm really dumb
Well that's why you're a "a" and not a "AI"
Early prototype
alpha 1
It’s either the prototype or alpha 1
oh wow the crowbar is thicc
why
We found the one who called Aaron the guest
begone, +ho+!
why trust him when you have an entire official book series that says otherwise
That’s really the only one that makes sense. It can’t be the neighbor since he has a bigger build while the guest is much skinnier. And it wouldn’t make sense to not show what happened to Aaron after the events of the first game.
How do you know? The game hasn’t even come out yet.
books
theres books
😐
like
how do you not know
I’ve read a few of the books and honestly I don’t even think their canon. The games contradict a lot of stuff that happens in the books. The books portray mr. Peterson as this abusive father and the Peterson family is all kinds of jacked up but in the games (specifically hide and seek) he is portrayed as a kind and loving father. The books also mention how in act 1 of the game it was a stormy night in which Nicky broke in the house. In the game it looks like a nice summer day. So I find it hard to believe that this man with broad shoulders and big arms is the same guy as the skinny bird dude. It also helps that there ware promotional images of these two characters standing in the same exact area.
Look the books aren’t always canon to games. Halo the fall of reach told the story of well, the fall of reach but then was retconned when halo reach was made. Even the fnaf books aren’t necessarily canon. So it shouldn’t be hard to believe that these book are simply not in the same timeline as the games. If mr. Peterson was infact the guest then how does his entire body change once in the costume? And why is there an image of him with the guest in the back ground lurking in the shadows which is a dead giveaway away that these aren’t the same people?
bay of the barygo bay is a thing in HN lore
HN1 takes place in 1997 that takes place in 1984
see
You barely gave any proof. All the proof you have was where it stands in the timeline. That’s like me saying halo the fall of reach is canon because it takes place directly before CE. It’s still not canon. Characters died in that book that apear in later games and events from this book were contradicted by the prequel game. Now doesn’t that sound familiar?
ok i get it
Alright then. I hope I did not come off as rude here and I apologize if I did. I just simply wanted to make a point.
In hn2 Nicky is still a kid, so Aaron is a kid too.he can't be the guest
The guest is some kind of shape-shifting creature
In the book he also take over theodore Peterson's body
You need to read "the raven brooks disaster"
explain the crow kid
(totally canon)
Crow kid is actually a random kid
Here is some proof
First off
Hello Neighbor Nicky' Diaries was turned from a Content Expansion to a full fledged game that softlaunched in certain countries
It has memories of events from the books
(Mostly Book 1 right now but still)
Then the SN Classes even existing is more proof
For what I'm about to say to make sense just know the AS and SN started development around the same time
The AS designers took the descriptions off certain characters (Enzo, Trinity, and Maritza) and then made the AS Pilot designs
Those designs were then sent to the SN team
Where they were then made into some of the character classes (Detective, Leader, and Brave)
Now get this
the Devs said they did this to make SN canon
This means the books were canon beforehand
I thought that Aaron was the guest too at first.
its all one big conspiracy officer
no
peterson isn't abusive, he isn't the best father no, but he isn't abusive.
and we only see ted once in hide and seek before diane dies
Guys we don’t even truly know when this game takes place. The story for the alphas, beta, and demo have all been very different. We have no clue where this takes place in the timeline until we get some trailers for the full game. So I will stand by my claim that Aaron is the guest. I pressume that this will take place years after act 2 and explain what happened to Aaron and how mr. Petersons house burnt down.
None of them are canon, at all.
That’s exactly my point.
the game takes place shortly after act 2 though, it seems.
mostly because Nicky's missing posters is still up
Also, have you read graphic novel 2 @light fog ?
Peterson is literally possessed by the guest
I don’t believe the books are canon due to all that they contradict from the games Just scroll up to see my point. I don’t feel like writing it down again.
the books are canon
according to someone it's because of mayak
forgot who
I think it was nikita but I'm not sure
@silver vine Do you remember who said this so I can back up my claim?
if it came from what I assume was Nikita then yes.
also yeah to some degree the events of the books happened in the games and vice versa but not exactly the same
after years of development, a change of writers, and no sight of mayak whatsoever in HN2 I don't think that's still really true
they wouldn't include mayak in betas and demos because it most likely contains massive spoilers
if only you knew...
I didn't see any of the leaks, so I don't know if it's in the full game or not, but it most likely is considering the weather station is a big part of the lore.
what do you think?
this is a spoiler and should stay in #old-spoilers with tag
its my theory
My counter arguement is
Hello Neighbor Nicky' Diaries was turned from a Content Expansion to a full fledged game that softlaunched in certain countries
It has memories of events from the books
(Mostly Book 1 right now but still)
Then the SN Classes even existing is more proof
For what I'm about to say to make sense just know the AS and SN started development around the same time
The AS designers took the descriptions of certain characters (Enzo, Trinity, and Maritza) and then made the AS Pilot designs
Those designs were then sent to the SN team
Where they were then made into some of the character classes (Detective, Leader, and Brave)
Now get this
the Devs said they did this to make SN canon
This means the books were canon beforehand
Also if you're wondering how SN is canon other then that then do the Rocket Event
Still don’t know how they managed to get Maritza and Enzo’s designs so wrong but that sounds about right
Tho I thought it was the other way around, Hologryph made the designs then sent them to be used for the Pilot
Since we do have concept art by Hologryph for all the SN kids
yeah
the devs confirmed that most of HN2 takes place when Nicky was a child
Aaron and Nicky are the same age
so, ita literally impossible for Nicky or Aaron to be the guest
they are in HN tho 
Rip mayak
the creator confirmed that most of HN2 takes place when Nicky was a child
this is further confirmed cuz in the beta, there are Nicky's missing posters, and Quentin is searching for Nicky, Aaron, and Mya
Nikita
obv
@light fog just watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X3_w2vANW4&t=1776s
Nikita, the mind behind the Hello Neighbor franchise, is joined once again by our Community Manager Ariana and our Creative Video Producer Adam - together they will play through HN Alpha 1 and answer your questions!
Ask a question in our Discord: http://discord.gg/neighborgames
Nikita literally debunks your Aaron guest theory by saying that most of HN2 takes place when Nicky was a child
he also said this
Maya*
Yea it takes place during act 1 and/ or act 2
and I'm pretty sure one of the hn2 trailers or alphas literally opens with a missing poster of Nicky
Yeah
The HN2 alpha 1.5 opens with a missing poster of three kids including Nicky I think
It’s maya!
maya?
that girl
no soemthing about the weather
i dont understand what it is
It's a weather station
It's basically an observatory of weather conditions
- You did not need to ping me
- No, I did not mean "Maya" (her actual name is Mya btw)
What happened after the neighbor caught him in act 1's end?

the Basement somehow has a fricking underground Amusement Park
Yeah I don't understand fully either
There's food in the Basement
You really think Mr.Peterson is THAT inhumane that he wouldn't give Nicky and HIS OWN SON food?
It's a messed up way of letting Aaron have a friend down there
are you referring to Nicky?
Yes
Act 2, while being a distorted memory, does contain some correct info
In being that someone (most likely Aaron) manages to get the Washing Machine open (I'm making this guess based off the HN2 Beta Basement Layout) and then Nicky escapes through the back, but Aaron stays behind
and by that I mean Aaron stays in the Act 1 house]
Why does aaron stay?
He breaks a window to distract his dad after his dad notices Nicky escaping
In book one he literally writes on a note to Nicky "I make bad things happen"
(in Hello Neighbor Diaries it's "I attract evil")
What book are you referring to?
Book 1
Missing Pieces
near the end
Aaron literally thinks he's a bad omen, and he thinks he deserves being trapped by his dad in the Basement
Is the book in the game?
Books are canon to the games
and Also thinks his dad is trying to protect him, really double sided here
but yeah hope that explains it for ya
this is the Act 2 ending here btw
It does explain a lot..
I won't skip the act 2's ending next time
Will there be noises of a window breaking?
Yes
Is the house not there when he goes in act 3?
It's been burnt down in Act 3
but that's potentially retconned
since it's still standing in Reset Day(which takes place at the earliest in 2021 (for RB which is stuck in a time loop now for some reason)/2022 (for the rest of the world))
Where'd the neighbor and aaron go if the house was burnt down?
Neighbor is being (spoilers for the second Graphic Novel (The Raven Brooks Disaster)) ||Controlled by the Guest||
and Aaron is implied to be the one who burnt the house down
Meaning Aaron is quite possibly dead
Was the "guest is neighbor" rumor false?
Both yes and no
Guest is a demon that sometimes possesses the Neighbor
but Guest in HN2 is not the Neighbor
but starting at the end of Graphic Novel 2 Guest is the Neighbor
It's confusing
Is the Graphic novel a document?
I haven't mentioned Graphic Novel 1 since it isn't really all that important
No, they're books that honestly cost a little TOO much money
You bought them?
Well, you see, I borrowed the books from my local library
But I did see the prices for the books
Graphic Novel 2 is at least $11, most of the books (Missing Pieces, Waking Nightmare, Buried Secrets, Bad Blood, Grave Mistakes, Puzzle Master, Graphic Novel 1, The Official Guide to Hello Neighbor (also known as The Neighbor's Notebook), and Reset Day) are around $6-$8
I say at least because that's if you want the paperback version (which are always the cheapest versions other then audiobooks (Graphic Novels obviously can't have Audiobook versions))
That's quite weird, if someone paid for the game at least let them know the story. 
They made HNHS bc the story wasn't clear enough
then the books came
and now here we are
with 4 finished game
2 games in development
10 books (counting the Guidebook)
and a upcoming Animated Series
hello neighbor isnt like a lot of game
it has hidden plot. It isnt too relevent to the gameplay unless people are looking for it
all you really need to know is:
There have been a bunch of kids going missing, and theres this weird guy who you believe kidnapped them
if you want to go more in depth, then you pay more attention to clues and read its book series

its like fnaf yknow
except fnaf has no real context for those who never went into lore thingy
fnaf is nothing like secret neighbor William Did not kidnap the kids he lured then Brutally killed them.
secret neighbor is about the missing kids we don't know if the neighbor killed them
that would actually be messed up
coming from the neighbor he prob would kill children
Mr.Peterson did not kill the SN kids
ik
no i didnt say the lore was simila
i meant the concept of hidden lore
oh and + sorry for responding late i had to play secret neighbor with my bro otherwise he would freak
You’re not the only one with that kind of brother
oh
Hey can someone explain to me what exactly Guest World actually is
I've heard of it but never heard it explained
Guest world was a theory about there being the real world (Raven Brooks) and then the destroyed abandoned world (Messy Brooks)
Mirror world seems to be more popular now, which I like
They've done so much stuff with mirroring things, mainly in streams
Now I've also never heard Mirror World explained
Rimmor
it used to be a meme about a world of madness
I really be missing out on all of these alternate universe theories
sometimes when someone would clip through the ground in sn or get stuck in an unused empty room, they could say "Ive entered the Guest World"
which is a ref to the theory
think of it as Brazil
ok
That's nothing like Brazil but ok
you're going to Guest World
yes it is
It's not how you get to Brazil
Raven Brooks, Missouri and Guest World, Brazil
To get to Brazil you have to buy the funny things that allow you to travel in the sky (above the ocean)
With a plane
Or just already live there
no not IRL brazil
Internet Brazil
Me adding a secret Guest World to my Raven Brooks in Minecraft Map (you have to locate a hidden button on the map):
the guest world is very similar to error_world imo
but nobody has seen what was there
at least, nobody who is still living atm....
Except one is corrupted and the other is abandoned apparently
those who said they were going to find the guest world were never seen again.....
Then I'll go look for it myself and try to return /j
chances are you wont
again
/j
Instead I'll try to send a Hello-Copter there, if that doesn't work then Guest World is more a anomaly then I thought
"HE" will destroy it before anything could appear on screen.....
And if the copter does film anything, he will come for you...
Lemme guess... "he" is the Guest itself?
probably
It's the only known being to have been to Guest World and come out of there
So chances are "he" is the Guest
I'm the gueset
Is "he" always aware of when someone enters "Guest World", if that's even what it's actually called?
Yes
Whenever someone enters guest world, a loud noise will happen
And the guest does hear that loud noise
So he goes search for where the loud noise came from
So you better run away right after you enter guest world
Find a place to hide
I was actually /srs about going to Guest World...
I am just outside Raven Brooks's Border
I found a old document say Guest World is located somewhere near RB
I am near the border of where Guest World was said to be located... What was that...?
Calm down calm down, I'm just going to mark where Guest World is for future exploration
or potential future exploration
Anyways I don't think Mirror World is a thing
I'm going to find the document
I know that it's dangerous
But the guest is cool|| and I want to give some seeds to him||
Same
Guest World is North-West of Raven Brooks
What about Crowman World? That's where the Crowman's Shelter is located
Actually that's known as the Den, not Crowman World
Sorry for seeming like a nerd for correcting you there
Den is somewhere within Guest World
As the one remaining member of the Sensevision Gang, I cannot allow you to enter my lord and savior's personal place.
I'm a old member of that gang, I technically never left, just lost the costume
since I lost the costume I stopped visiting
I was there when it was created
I have proof
My proof:
Sensevision Gang whats that
A joke to refer to (originally) several people on the server who had the Guest as their PFP
Coolwing is the only one who still has a Guest PFP who was a part of it
I think I could try to find my old costume and put it on
Guess(t) what
I found the old costume
see?
Yes
I finally found that old costume
and i found my self a costume
yo new member
anyways Hello Neighbor Lore
Lore:
true
Order of games for people
(Hello neighbor secret of bosco bay, hello neighbor books 1-7, hn hide and seek, hn act 1,hn graphic novel 2,hn2, secret neighbor,hn act 2,3,and 4
🤦
I mean, technically Hide and Seek and Act 1 take place all in books 1-3
It's: GN1 (the Secret of Bosco Bay), book 4 (Bad Blood), book 5 (Grave Mistakes). book 6 (Puzzle Master), Book 1 (Missing Pieces)/HN:HS, book 2 (Waking Nightmare), Book 3 (Buried Secrets)/AS Ep. 2 (not out yet but just mentioning it)/HN1 Act 1, Secret Neighbor, Hello Engineer, HN1 Act 2, HN2, GN2 (the Raven Brooks Disaster), HN1 Act 3 + Finale (Act 4), HND (Hello Neighbor Diaries), Book 7 (Reset Day)
Guidebook, AS pilot, and the Nog Simming discord story are non-canon
just an idea, what if the guest is the shadow boy from the first game in a material form?
what GN1
and GN2
oh NM
I put the ()s to insert the titles of smth
anyways debate: Is HN1 in 1996, 1997, or 1998?
1987
haha 1987 fanf reference!!!!!!
1997
Oh wait I forgot to mention we aren't counting the second half of the game
(Act 3 and Finale are in 2017)
Really?
Acts 1 and 2 are the ones the debate is referring to
Yeah
Like the year?
yep
When Nicky was a kid
Ok
So then HN2 takes place in the 2000s?
If it takes place when Nicky is still a kid
it takes place right after act 2 which is in 1997 i think
hmm maybe he looks like 29 to me
But HN2 takes place right after Nicky was kidnapped right
And Aaron
yep
And maya is already dead in HN2 so I just thought about it
But what act? 1 or 2
Can’t he right after act 2
that was hide and seek she died
Yea
she fell of the roof
I mean when does HN2 take place during act 1 or 2?
i meant that
Ok
It's: GN1 (the Secret of Bosco Bay), book 4 (Bad Blood), book 5 (Grave Mistakes). book 6 (Puzzle Master), Book 1 (Missing Pieces)/HN:HS, book 2 (Waking Nightmare), Book 3 (Buried Secrets)/AS Ep. 2 (not out yet but just mentioning it)/HN1 Act 1, Secret Neighbor, Hello Engineer, HN1 Act 2, HN2, GN2 (the Raven Brooks Disaster), HN1 Act 3 + Finale (Act 4), HND (Hello Neighbor Diaries), Book 7 (Reset Day)
Guidebook, AS pilot, and the Nog Simming discord story are non-canon
after Act 2
Do you have any ideas who the guest (crowman) is?
GN2 establishes ||it's a demon of some kind||
Yea your right cuz in the beta the map says Nicky went back to his place
(only put the spoiler tag because clearly you never read GN2 if you don't know)
but it could chance maybe HN2 takes place after act 1
December 1st if you pre ordered deluxe
I mean we will find out the story when the full game releases
||We already know some of it :trolled:||
I know mean some other stuff
Like when it takes place act 1 or 2?
Most likely after Act 2
Like when Nicky escaped?
Yes
Ok where’s Aaron in act 2?
Still in basement?
During Act 2, yes
Ok
After Act 2, ||in the Museum's attic||
Oooh yeah
In the beta it was a cardboard cutout
With crying audio
. H h
Ik that I was just connecting
Forgor to spoiler it
I wonder what he will look like
Maybe ragged
Taller
Obviously older
(Spoilers for the full game)
||In the full game it's not||
But I just wonder
Not older, not taller
In the full game what is not?
Aaron cadboard
He had to be a little older right
Cuz HN hide and seek is before HN1
So he should be older
Hi
Unless if right after maya dies and Aaron is in the basement then Nicky shows up right after
Hi guys
||In HN2 full game he's the same age he was in Hide and Seek i think||
Unless I’m mistaken
Ok
Wassup
That makes sense
Wassup
dont spam
Nah
Cuz Nicky actually moved in across the neighbor in HN hide and seek
I just want someone to say hello back
Bye.
Ok hi can you shut up now?
#hello-neighbor if you want to talk to people
Jeez
And ik the hello neighbor story and hide and seek story I’m just trying to connect
So hide and seek is before HN1 obviously
Who?
I didn't want to see this... 😭
No hn2 takes place after act 1 cause Nicky still missing
Those are just simming posters
For all you know he could be in his house
and it's the day Act 2 happened
But that’s means he’s still missing
In act 2 it was day and he was out of the house
It could've been evening
We don't even know what time of day Act 2 happened in
Did you not get caught once in Act 2
When you get caught the time of day changes
but my theory is that HN2 takes place after act 1 because quntin go to save aaron but he find out about nicky
it kind of has to take place after Act 1 because in HN 2 there are police investigating the house and in Act 1 we see nothing suggesting that
yea
Def after act 2
Komete doesn't want ANYTHING from the leaks mentioned in this channel
not even under a spoiler tag
Cuz the neighbor isn't in his OG house anymore
I know it prob wasn't Komete, but it's the same with the others I'm 99% sure
And, if some of the beta is still canon, Aaron is in the attic
Museum's
ok
And Aaron was still locked up in the basement in Act 2
So there's no way HN2 takes place after Act 1
Unless they retconned
the police come investigate after Nicky escapes
so Ted escapes in his car with Aaron
and they go to the museum
that's how HN2 takes place after Act 1
Tat also means HN2 takes place after Act 2
random question: do you guys really learn this at 9?
is that at all related to hn or the lore..
#off-topic is the best channel for.. off topic conversations
in book 4 they are the same age as in book 1 according to Alex or someone of tb on reddit i dont remember
which technically doesnt make sense since its 3 years before... whatever..
mate this is from one of the books
my bad sir
so aaron is 12 at book 4?
yeah which is kinda inconsistent
even Nicky mentions Aaron and Enzo were 9 by the time
Mr.Peterson: Insane Maniac or Sympathetic Villain,
your opinions?
Maniac
What page? and yes in England anyway
179 of bad blood
fr, im the same page mya says "trinity is almost 12", and she's older than nicky
Weird thought.. so, in the books, Mr. Peterson is trying to give the luck thingy to the Puzzle Master, and what if he locked away Aaron to save him? What if in his own twisted way he’s a good guy?
What? This can’t be! It’s an Afton other than me?!?!?!?!?
That literally the point he does believe he's the his the good one
No, I mean like actually is he the good one? We get a bit of context for either way, but is it actually true? I’m confused about that
No, Mr Peterson overall is not a good person
He's in denial over everything, and keeps doing worse things to try and deal with the bad things happening to him.
So far he's gotten 6 people killed in his roller coasters, because in books 1-3 he states that safety features slow the rides down and make them less fun.
Joe in Bosco Bay (Killed after being thrown out of his roller coaster cart on a sharp turn), 4 Unnamed People (Killed via their log on a water ride flipping over, drowning them), and Lucy Yi (Killed by her cart being launched off of the tracks and I think into a tree)
But he denies any of it being his fault, and instead pushes the blame onto his son being a bad omen, despite the fact that Joe in Bosco Bay died before Aaron was even born.
And that's just the accidental deaths he's caused with his rides, he's done LOADS of bad stuff! But people wanna make him seem like a good guy bc
"Wah wah family died :( Tryna protect his son that he actively blamed for everything.."
The Luck Device just kinda, ruins that part of his character. I don't like it. Makes everything "OH, it wasn't HIS fault for his OWN actions! It was a magic luck gem used by the SECRET shadowy evil people causing every single bad thing to happen! All the consequences aren't HIS fault, he's a VICTIM!"
"Ted is just misunderstood!"
Ted building unsafe rides resulting in multiple deaths, locking kids away in his basement for 2 months, mentally abusing his children and wife and then later ||physically abusing his son in HN2, look at all those bruises||, and also trying to kill purposefully more kids in the GAAP where he's doing mad experiments causing those kids to be sent to a different world trapped forever in HE and also trying to flood the town destroying people's lives. Not including reset day cause he's possesed in that.
But oh no luck devices it's not his fault he's a nice guy 😭
I don't count HE as part of this but yeah that makes it actively worse
HE I don't consider as canon bc it's like, too out there even for him
Well I only count HE for the laser drones, which do hurt you, and we know those are actually real cause they were in cinematic cutscenes which are real life
Fair, but I just mean even the cutscenes HE is the most out there HN game
But either way, Ted by all means is an AWFUL person
Very
It's not.
No lol
is it HN2
At least Ted had a small change of heart cause of 1 random girl he's know for like 30 minutes in GN2 oh wait he gets possesed right after too bad for him 🤪
Tbh, she probably reminded him of Mya. Young girl with red hair and greenish eyes
That's probably what flipped him to help
i mean does HN2 have to take place after act 2 cuz nicky is still missing
thats what im saying
||simply both||
in-between the two you mean
Before and after Act 2
But back to the topic just for a sec, I just
Don't get the people trying to defend Mr. Peterson. He's just awful.
He's a 50 year old man he should know how to make proper decisions, but he's just insane
It's: GN1 (the Secret of Bosco Bay), book 4 (Bad Blood), book 5 (Grave Mistakes). book 6 (Puzzle Master), Book 1 (Missing Pieces)/HN:HS, book 2 (Waking Nightmare), Book 3 (Buried Secrets)/AS Ep. 2 (not out yet but just mentioning it)/HN1 Act 1, Secret Neighbor, Hello Engineer, HN2, HN1 Act 2, GN2 (the Raven Brooks Disaster), HN1 Act 3 + Finale (Act 4), HND (Hello Neighbor Diaries), Book 7 (Reset Day) that's mine timeline
The kids suffer so much in HN.
Nicky: Trauma, PTSD, locked away for 2 months, then more trauma, then more after that.
Mya: Mental abuse from family, then death.
Aaron: Mental abuse, locked away for 2 months, transported and locked away again and abused more.
SN kids: Lots of anxiety in books, trauma, guilt of leaving friends to rot in basement and they also have a weird imagination of their dead friend and other weird stuff, not for long tho cause then they forget their locked away friends and go to the park where they and hunted by Ted and then are teleported to a desolate world (sandbox world) where remnants of their dead friend rest. They somehow escape (we'll know once they finish the stupid update) and then are stuck in a time loop in their town unable to leave and one is kidnapped while the others can't do much to help. Don't forget the main 3 also having to witness lots of crazy stuff probably being scarred for life.
Poor SN kids lol
Nicky and Aaron got it easy
Mya easier
ho do you like it
Yeah that seems abt right
tbh SN poses the kids as kinda
Not very good!
They're not even there to save Nicky or Aaron, they're there to save Unnamed Alpha Kid
Then they never even make an attempt to save them and instead go on to make a funny car
Hey look at this rocket hehe look it's the moon
Oh Nicky? Nah back to imaging trying to summon Lucy from the dead
Fr though why is Lucy being shoved in our face so much
"Hey hey hey look Lucy from the books look at her look"
but i made on chance see right next HE is HN2 which people say it takes place after act 2
Because apparently Lucy matters more to them than their friend who’s actually alive and is in grave danger
Who warned them about the guy who’s most likely to kidnap him beforehand
Like, Nicky’s gotta be in bad health, and Aaron even worse
Hey guys there's man in a hat watching us...lets imagine we team up with Mr. Peterson, and chase the man off!
Yeah!
Then lets imagine we activate 6 levers while teaming up with Mr. Peterson and pretend we all DIE
Hahahaha!
Yes that sounds fun!
Hey guys, let’s forget our 2 missing friends and instead make a super cool race car! And also lets break into the park where our past best friend died in a brutal roller coaster accident!
Yep Sounds Fun To Me!!!
Yeah lets go during the night and then imagine the place is bright in the sun instead of actually going in the day for some reason! We are normal kids!
Yep We Can Imagen That Mr. Peterson Has A Giant Spider Robot And Trying To Kill Us!!!
Or a train and is trying to kill us! Or has murder drones and is trying to kill us! Or
Or a Giant Bossfight With The Spider Thats Trying To Kill Us!!!!
That’s already been said!
Who's ready for the Raven Brooks mist to arrive in SN 😂
Bold of you to assume SN will be updated
Me
B-but true happiness dispels ignorance 😢
Mist reveals!
This is all about bringing back snow somehow
Bc Mr Peterson used the funny Mayak weather powers to steal ALL the snow, of course!
The envelope jn the game has the grammar of a child, I don't think an adult wrote it lol.
All YOur snoW are beLonGs To Me
Lore
I think Aaron would be in better health than Nicky since Aaron is Ted's kid, while Nicky is the nosy kid across the street who broke into the house repeatedly
Tbh Nicky and Aaron were probably treated the same, food wise at least
Since Ted intentionally lured Nicky into the basement, to silence him and to give Aaron a “friend”
Wait so r Nicky and Aaron together in the attic at the museum?
no
Nicky was locked up in the normal house in the basement
after he escaped
Aaron helped him
If he escaped why is he in the basement again
I know that in act 2 he did
But if Nicky escaped why is he in the basement again
HN2 is after Act 2 so that's normal that's there's Nicky's missing posters everywhere even if he escaped
But where is Nicky in HN2!!!???
Who’s house the neighbor?
in his house.
And 2 story
Ik
and I'm pretty sure the interior of the neighbors house in hn2 isn't how it was in hn1, but something like that doesn't matter. same with the color of a kids house.
Will Nicky be in HN2 if his house is at ther
Lore
they said in a Q&A that nicky will be in HN2
So he will mostly be in
Yooo
Nicky in hn 2 would be epic
why would they do missing posters if he's not in game
To annoy people
yes we need Nicky as a NPC
He is
When was it?
Cuz if it was anytime before late 2021 then it might not be as true as it was back then
Mya missing posters:
that part literally gave me a stroke
MFW they can't even get ages consistent:
heyyy
MFW they can’t get anything consistent:
true
I’m Pretty Sure The Reason Why It Looked Like That, Is To Show Us How Nicky Sees Mr. Petersons Home.