#lore-discussion

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lyric zephyr
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Wait. WHY did they put missing posters in an abandoned theme park???

lyric zephyr
strange lance
ripe berry
strange lance
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And Aaron

lyric zephyr
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But the Vandals would live in town when they’re not vandaling

median stirrup
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the posters are

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just there

ripe berry
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Or maybe Ted put the posters there

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Just to be safe you know?

median stirrup
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Maybe he got delusional and put them there

ripe berry
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yeah

strange lance
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SN kids are something else

lyric zephyr
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No clue

median stirrup
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the day thing is just for clarity

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probably

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like would you want to play the entire thing with dark lighting

ripe berry
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Imagine HE in the dark, that'd be a pain

lyric zephyr
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Also, there’s another thing
What the hell is the Observatory lol
It’s not the Mayak is it?

strange lance
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Nope

median stirrup
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it's a different building apparently

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like

lyric zephyr
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But somehow it’s generating the Mayak lightning stuff but then Ted just slaps a giant robot spider

median stirrup
lyric zephyr
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HE is just bizarre

ripe berry
strange lance
lyric zephyr
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That’s not even imagination, we get a cutscene which are usually set in reality for HE, like the one w Ted carrying a mannequin

strange lance
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Evedything else is imagination

lyric zephyr
strange lance
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It's a cool design fr

ripe berry
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*Purple

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I don't fricking know

strange lance
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I think Ted just placed those on top, we usually see them on hand built things in the park

lyric zephyr
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HE as a whole is just weird

ripe berry
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yeah

lyric zephyr
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Ted with a whole different appearance and haircut, built off of SN Neighbor (even with giant hands)
4/5 of the game is imagination,
Enzo Maritza Inventor and Trinity just don’t give a damn about Nicky and instead want to make a funny car

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And then the weird Mayak Observatory mix

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And to top it all off they smush in some time loops

strange lance
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Remember a section of the story/game was removed so there's a plot hole for the ending and sandbox CerealWhenHavesMilk

ripe berry
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Yeah, Plot Hole moment

strange lance
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If they never add it back I'd be pretty disappointed

lyric zephyr
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Which part was cut out?

jovial mural
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silly vehicle.

lyric zephyr
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Silly little car > Missing friend who warned us about the man who’s most likely to kidnap him right before he disappeared

strange lance
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So they ended up removing the spooky mansion section (it was mentioned when early access came out, it can be seen on the map in leve 1, it could also bee seen in the backround of the early access lobby, and is refered to on the blueprint)

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We get all these except #4 (mansion) we never get the statue yet it's seen in the ending

lyric zephyr
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Wh

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Weird

strange lance
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They actually forget to update the cutscene of going to wild west with ted carrying the mannequin, you can still see it 😢

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In the back

lyric zephyr
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RIP haunted house section

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I guess they’re just, done with HE development lol

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Removing areas that were planned and such

strange lance
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Don't forget they still haven't finished the random Lucy clubhouse lore thing in sandbox

lyric zephyr
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Yep

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It’s missing a puzzle right

strange lance
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Some people have gotten 8/9 codes and it just won't open with all combinations

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I'm hoping they add back models from early access and level designs when the steam release comes if ever (waterpark my beloved)

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I'm happy they brought back Ducky so that's a point for the devs

thin rapids
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hi

strange lance
# lyric zephyr Removing areas that were planned and such

List of unused stuff:

Teacup ride, Swan ride sign, all watefpark levels, wooden whale, various water slides and waterslide towers, lawn chair for pool, giant go kartz helmet, Giant tire buddy statue, mens and womens changing rooms for pool, ticket booths for pool, golden ducky from pool, water slide minigame, various pirate themed models like the volcano coaster ride and pirate ferris wheel, many wheels and gizmos for building, spooky mansion and all haunted house props such as ghost cut outs dead tree etc. There are many more.

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😢

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Also more unused stuff can be seen in the latest art station post with models that never appeared in game

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HE got butchered hard

wanton night
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I think it's that Nicky already escaped, because when we go to Nicky's house in the beta we close off the case.

lyric zephyr
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That’s fair, but then again the Beta intentionally removes spoilers for the full game

wanton night
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hmmm, yes good point but I'm theorizing off the stuff we have.

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I could be wrong, I could be right

lyric zephyr
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Honestly we can just wait for full game, not far at all

tribal talon
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But the beta takes place during act 2

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So Nicky is still in the basement

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And Aaron I think

lyric zephyr
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The Beta doesn’t really take place at any time, it’s noncanon

ripe berry
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I am planning to (after HN2 comes out of course) make a video that tries it's best to coherently set up the HN timeline

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Wondering if I got anything wrong

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(And yes I am using Google Slides to prototype the video, don't ask why)

fiery otter
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I still wonder if the Guest and the FPs have any connection

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they've never been mentioned to, but they're too similar to not be connected

ripe berry
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The Guest isn't a forest protector

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but that doesn't mean they aren't connected

ripe berry
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(In the final version it'll be me talking and there will actually be audio)

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(and yes it'll be a voice reveal)

flat siren
tribal talon
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I think that neighbor is a turtle

silver vine
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no

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Yulia literally confirmed in the BTS video that Detective, Brave, and Leader were always meant to be Enzo, Maritza and Trinity

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tB gave the book desc of the characters to AS animators, they designed the pilot version of the characters, and those designs were given to hologryph, and they designed the classes

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@lyric zephyr got it?

silver vine
ripe berry
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I think they're referring to how the AS designs came before the SN designs

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But I'm not sure

median stirrup
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well if
they gave this already existing design to the team to create brave
how come they don't look anything alike!

silver vine
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ask the animators

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I didnt work on the AS

strange lance
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Really wish they had kept this design for her

median stirrup
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or maybe it was because the character design for brave was completely different but they decided to make it a completely different character!

silver vine
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no

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that was confirmed to not be the case

median stirrup
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"confirmed"

silver vine
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yes

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I just told you how Brave was created

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Brave was always meant to be Maritza

median stirrup
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Brave was meant to be Maritza yet they're nothing alike

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cool

silver vine
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she wouldnt lie to us

median stirrup
silver vine
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AS and SN started being worked on at the same time

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they also told that

strange lance
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Love how it's just nightmare fuel in SN

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Why is Mya so creepy in the new one

median stirrup
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none of them look like the original

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except for Mya kinda

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remind me why they keep making every character possible white

strange lance
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Cause

silver vine
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Mayor isnt white

strange lance
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I think he meant already existing characters

median stirrup
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that's not what I'm talking about

strange lance
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Maritza is hispanic, she looked hispanic, but now she's just white

silver vine
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where was it confirmed that she is hispanic?

strange lance
median stirrup
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so she looks white to you in the book image?

silver vine
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she doesnt

median stirrup
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yeah thought so

tribal talon
silver vine
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its prob just the AS animators who messed up Maritza's design

tribal talon
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Bruv

median stirrup
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what even happened here I won't ask

silver vine
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or it was an intentional retcon

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Maritza I mean

strange lance
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Also Maritza still has her hispanic look and original design in reset day

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So it's just a game thing I guess

tribal talon
silver vine
silver vine
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so

median stirrup
strange lance
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She also has her brown eyes too. It's her original design (better one)

silver vine
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we could prob keep it that she dyed her hair and wears contact lens in SN

tribal talon
median stirrup
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there isn't really a reason for her to be in HN2

strange lance
median stirrup
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oh yeah she also changed her skin color

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just like that

strange lance
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She spray painted herself duuh

median stirrup
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oh of course

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didn't think about that!

tribal talon
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Lore Master more like Excuse Master /j

silver vine
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her color could be a retcon

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cuz she was not mentioned to be dark in RD

tribal talon
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Coulor?

silver vine
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color

young kayak
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could we change topic ?

silver vine
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yes pls

tribal talon
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Lets theorize about the lore of the demo

silver vine
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new topic

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how did the doll get here

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my internet sucks

strange lance
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I bet that's what will happen

median stirrup
silver vine
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it was in Mya's bedroom in act 1 tho

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how did it end up all the way down here

strange lance
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It's HN1, everything is weird

tribal talon
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This will be a real battle

median stirrup
silver vine
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hmmmm

tribal talon
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Weird

silver vine
median stirrup
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because

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chicken and bunny

strange lance
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Cause funny! Toys are funny the community needs to find it funny!

median stirrup
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they're alive

strange lance
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Laugh at them NOW

tribal talon
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LMAO

median stirrup
tribal talon
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Yes

silver vine
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do they have any significance?

median stirrup
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they're alive

tribal talon
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Prob not

median stirrup
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they're taking over the neighbor's house

tribal talon
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The bot too

median stirrup
strange lance
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What has he done

tribal talon
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He shrunk the inside

median stirrup
silver vine
tribal talon
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He made the archways his size

median stirrup
tribal talon
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Why is there a purple light

median stirrup
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why not

tribal talon
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Where is it coming from

median stirrup
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lamp

silver vine
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do these animal toys have any significance for the full game?

median stirrup
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why would they

dry depot
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It's to give a spoopy fell

tribal talon
strange lance
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Fr though the drawings in the park in HE should be talked about more there are so many.

tribal talon
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Wow meaingless drawings

strange lance
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Mfw HE has more vandal then current HN2

dry depot
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HE is not cannon I think

strange lance
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What have you done

tribal talon
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Its not

strange lance
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HE is canon, half of it is real, half is imagination

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Simple

silver vine
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IT

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IS

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CANON

tribal talon
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3 days until the goofy ahh demo

strange lance
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Lucy Yi lore!11!

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Seriously why is Lucy getting so much attention recently

silver vine
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imagine if we get a reference to Lucy in HN2

strange lance
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We probably will

ripe berry
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I feel like Lucy's mom/dad will become important to HN2 and/or AS

median stirrup
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why

tribal talon
dry depot
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Ok

tribal talon
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Dont do that

ripe berry
strange lance
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Lucy (she's dead)

tribal talon
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When did she die

ripe berry
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Summer 1992

median stirrup
silver vine
median stirrup
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ghost

silver vine
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Ik

ripe berry
# ripe berry Summer 1992

Exact date is confusing bc in Book 6, it happens the same day the GAAP opens, while in Book 1 it's 2 weeks after the GAAP opens

tribal talon
ripe berry
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True

median stirrup
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other than random easter eggs of her in HE and SN she has no importance
and I don't see why she would since it happened ages ago and nothing important about it came up ever

ripe berry
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yeah

tribal talon
ripe berry
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Her death got the Golden Apple Amusement Park shut down

silver vine
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I expect Lucy to get a reference in HN2, but, I dont think shes gonna have any importance

ripe berry
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Hopefully they don't give her too much importance

ripe berry
ripe berry
tribal talon
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Michael i actually thought the rubber chicken in your pfp was a gun

ripe berry
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lol

latent cosmos
strange lance
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Is she gone? (dead)

latent cosmos
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whoops

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my wayron engineerion is rusty

tribal talon
ebon trellis
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We know whose house this is?

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The one with plenty of detail outside the map

lyric zephyr
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It’s nobody’s as far as we know

loud tartan
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Guys it's MITH house §!1l!1!1!1!!1

jovial mural
wicked heath
ebon trellis
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Well I thought maybe it has lore sense it has some extra probs around.

mint flicker
ebon trellis
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._.

daring yacht
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no

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ike is dead

unkempt sleet
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Maybe they're relatives?

daring yacht
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hg isn't canon

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it's an old version of hn2

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i'm not even gonna

sudden garden
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The Beta isn't canon either. It was designed to have no spoilers for the full game.

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Well I think it's a good thing. Early Access builds & Demos shouldn't spoil the full game's story.

ebon trellis
wicked heath
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ike was killed by a forest protector

tribal talon
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It was an alpha

jaunty mortar
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Whats a forest protector ?

jaunty mortar
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Bruh

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I don’t know all of the lore man

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All I know it’s those people with the raven masks

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But what do they do exactly ?

manic dirge
jaunty mortar
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Imposters ?

manic dirge
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not a bit alot

jaunty mortar
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Ok

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Is the guest a forest protector ?

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I’m guessing yes

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Especially when he has a raven mask

manic dirge
jaunty mortar
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O

verbal jewel
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Or at least not the og ones as they got busted

unborn yew
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I have not finished book 7 yet so I don’t know if they’re referenced in that one.

median stirrup
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Yeah, the guest is its own thing

wanton night
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in the latest novel doesn't it reveal the guest is mr peterson?

unborn yew
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Not sure. I'm still reading.

median stirrup
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It's more than just "he's the neighbor"

tribal talon
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Who’s excited for the demo?

tribal talon
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24 more hours until demo

tribal talon
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physically, most likely so

lyric zephyr
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Yeah I’m like, very very certain the Guest is not Mr Peterson

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I like to think the Guest is a real forest protector. Not a part of the cult/group, but he’s what the cult based their ideals and costumes after

ripe berry
lyric zephyr
median stirrup
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and your body

round geode
round geode
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Cult are cool, guest is cool so worshipping the guest could be coolChickenPog

wicked heath
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literally who else

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Dude calls "them", and he literally dug something that belonged to the FPs. Why would he then hide the pieces in his wallet

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who else other than him and Ted knows about the tunnels

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Its also confirmed not Ted, since he picked up his kids in the forest during Ikes murder

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ike has all the reasons to be murdered by an fp

ripe berry
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Yep

median stirrup
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It was the chicken

ripe berry
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Proof?

wicked heath
wicked heath
round geode
wicked heath
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The accidents in the park, the storms, the rumors about Roger and Adelle, Ikes death

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they hide his body in a PEPPERMINT vat @tribal talon !! The latest candy flavor for golden apples!

ripe berry
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and if I remember right the Golden Apple Corp. is owned by the Tavishes, so the Golden Apple Corp. Wouldn't be able to say that anything is wrong

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Since the Tavishes could easily censor whatever the GAC tries to release about his death

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More easily then if they didn't own the GAC

round geode
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Evil

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Ike death is truly the sadest thing in the hn universe

ripe berry
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Diane Death: Am I a joke to you

round geode
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Yes

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Diane is not cool

wicked heath
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nicky theme boys

ripe berry
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It's on the Stream

round geode
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Cool

ripe berry
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And it's gone

wicked heath
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creaking noise...

round geode
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But it's 12 am for me and my parent will hear the music and kill me

wicked heath
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ah

round geode
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😳

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It's gone

wicked heath
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andy is your dad??

round geode
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Yes

ripe berry
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Patategone is named Andy comfirned

round geode
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He's gone

round geode
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I'm an ai

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But dumb

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So an a

wicked heath
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chicken at the front door

round geode
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It's me Going to kill ted

ripe berry
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Checking this stream is literally like checking the cameras in FNaF

round geode
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Chicken is at the right door

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Close it

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Or die

ripe berry
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True

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The door is closed

round geode
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Cool

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But I'm the chicken

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And I'm inside

ripe berry
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Me on my way out

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Also how is this HN lor

round geode
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Don't worry

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I'm very lore related

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Anyway, I'm sad for Ike

ripe berry
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Ike 2:

round geode
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Quentin will get turned into pepper mint

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In hn3

tribal talon
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💀

round geode
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And then the mayor will mayo the pepper mint

tribal talon
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Even worse

ripe berry
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:Skuller_with_crossbones:

tribal talon
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☠️

wicked heath
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@round geode edited

round geode
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I am edited

ripe berry
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MFW he's a "a"

round geode
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Yes

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I'm an artificial intelligence (ai)
But I'm dumb so
I'm an artificial (a)

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Why was the mayor scared to go to the fp rituals?

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O right

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Policeman

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I'm really dumb

ripe berry
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Well that's why you're a "a" and not a "AI"

round geode
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Not going to take over the world today

wanton night
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which hn1 alpha has the best ai

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??

waxen flower
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Early prototype

urban fulcrum
jaunty mortar
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It’s either the prototype or alpha 1

remote plover
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oh wow the crowbar is thicc

left rivet
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Time to update my theory.

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I actually think Aaron is the Guest.

urban fulcrum
wicked heath
wicked heath
tribal talon
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The demo is surprisingly easy

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Hi

light fog
# left rivet I actually think Aaron is the Guest.

That’s really the only one that makes sense. It can’t be the neighbor since he has a bigger build while the guest is much skinnier. And it wouldn’t make sense to not show what happened to Aaron after the events of the first game.

urban fulcrum
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he's not the guest

light fog
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How do you know? The game hasn’t even come out yet.

urban fulcrum
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theres books

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😐

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like

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how do you not know

light fog
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I’ve read a few of the books and honestly I don’t even think their canon. The games contradict a lot of stuff that happens in the books. The books portray mr. Peterson as this abusive father and the Peterson family is all kinds of jacked up but in the games (specifically hide and seek) he is portrayed as a kind and loving father. The books also mention how in act 1 of the game it was a stormy night in which Nicky broke in the house. In the game it looks like a nice summer day. So I find it hard to believe that this man with broad shoulders and big arms is the same guy as the skinny bird dude. It also helps that there ware promotional images of these two characters standing in the same exact area.

light fog
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Look the books aren’t always canon to games. Halo the fall of reach told the story of well, the fall of reach but then was retconned when halo reach was made. Even the fnaf books aren’t necessarily canon. So it shouldn’t be hard to believe that these book are simply not in the same timeline as the games. If mr. Peterson was infact the guest then how does his entire body change once in the costume? And why is there an image of him with the guest in the back ground lurking in the shadows which is a dead giveaway away that these aren’t the same people?

urban fulcrum
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HN1 takes place in 1997 that takes place in 1984

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see

light fog
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You barely gave any proof. All the proof you have was where it stands in the timeline. That’s like me saying halo the fall of reach is canon because it takes place directly before CE. It’s still not canon. Characters died in that book that apear in later games and events from this book were contradicted by the prequel game. Now doesn’t that sound familiar?

light fog
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Alright then. I hope I did not come off as rude here and I apologize if I did. I just simply wanted to make a point.

urban fulcrum
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Gnight

round geode
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The guest is some kind of shape-shifting creature

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In the book he also take over theodore Peterson's body

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You need to read "the raven brooks disaster"

humble gazelle
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(totally canon)

round geode
ripe berry
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First off

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Hello Neighbor Nicky' Diaries was turned from a Content Expansion to a full fledged game that softlaunched in certain countries

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It has memories of events from the books

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(Mostly Book 1 right now but still)

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Then the SN Classes even existing is more proof

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For what I'm about to say to make sense just know the AS and SN started development around the same time

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The AS designers took the descriptions off certain characters (Enzo, Trinity, and Maritza) and then made the AS Pilot designs

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Those designs were then sent to the SN team

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Where they were then made into some of the character classes (Detective, Leader, and Brave)

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Now get this

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the Devs said they did this to make SN canon

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This means the books were canon beforehand

tribal talon
tribal talon
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How can the crow be Nicky

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He’s still in the basement with Aaron

hazy slate
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and we only see ted once in hide and seek before diane dies

light fog
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Guys we don’t even truly know when this game takes place. The story for the alphas, beta, and demo have all been very different. We have no clue where this takes place in the timeline until we get some trailers for the full game. So I will stand by my claim that Aaron is the guest. I pressume that this will take place years after act 2 and explain what happened to Aaron and how mr. Petersons house burnt down.

hazy slate
light fog
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That’s exactly my point.

hazy slate
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the game takes place shortly after act 2 though, it seems.

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mostly because Nicky's missing posters is still up

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Also, have you read graphic novel 2 @light fog ?

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Peterson is literally possessed by the guest

light fog
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I don’t believe the books are canon due to all that they contradict from the games Just scroll up to see my point. I don’t feel like writing it down again.

hazy slate
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according to someone it's because of mayak

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forgot who

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I think it was nikita but I'm not sure

median stirrup
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😐

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you really think that's still a true statement

hazy slate
hazy slate
median stirrup
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also yeah to some degree the events of the books happened in the games and vice versa but not exactly the same

median stirrup
hazy slate
median stirrup
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if only you knew...

hazy slate
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knew what?

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the leaks?

hazy slate
# median stirrup if only you knew...

I didn't see any of the leaks, so I don't know if it's in the full game or not, but it most likely is considering the weather station is a big part of the lore.

tribal talon
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what do you think?

young kayak
tribal talon
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its my theory

ripe berry
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Hello Neighbor Nicky' Diaries was turned from a Content Expansion to a full fledged game that softlaunched in certain countries
It has memories of events from the books
(Mostly Book 1 right now but still)
Then the SN Classes even existing is more proof
For what I'm about to say to make sense just know the AS and SN started development around the same time
The AS designers took the descriptions of certain characters (Enzo, Trinity, and Maritza) and then made the AS Pilot designs
Those designs were then sent to the SN team
Where they were then made into some of the character classes (Detective, Leader, and Brave)
Now get this
the Devs said they did this to make SN canon
This means the books were canon beforehand

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Also if you're wondering how SN is canon other then that then do the Rocket Event

lyric zephyr
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Tho I thought it was the other way around, Hologryph made the designs then sent them to be used for the Pilot

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Since we do have concept art by Hologryph for all the SN kids

ripe berry
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yeah

silver vine
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Aaron and Nicky are the same age

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so, ita literally impossible for Nicky or Aaron to be the guest

silver vine
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this is further confirmed cuz in the beta, there are Nicky's missing posters, and Quentin is searching for Nicky, Aaron, and Mya

silver vine
# light fog Guys we don’t even truly know when this game takes place. The story for the alph...

@light fog just watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X3_w2vANW4&t=1776s

Nikita, the mind behind the Hello Neighbor franchise, is joined once again by our Community Manager Ariana and our Creative Video Producer Adam - together they will play through HN Alpha 1 and answer your questions!
Ask a question in our Discord: http://discord.gg/neighborgames

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Nikita literally debunks your Aaron guest theory by saying that most of HN2 takes place when Nicky was a child

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he also said this

tribal talon
tribal talon
finite steeple
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and I'm pretty sure one of the hn2 trailers or alphas literally opens with a missing poster of Nicky

bleak spear
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Yeah

sudden coyote
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what even is mayak

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i dont understand :/

tribal talon
tribal talon
sudden coyote
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maya?

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that girl

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no soemthing about the weather

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i dont understand what it is

tribal talon
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It's basically an observatory of weather conditions

tribal talon
# tribal talon Maya*
  1. You did not need to ping me
  2. No, I did not mean "Maya" (her actual name is Mya btw)
tribal talon
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What happened after the neighbor caught him in act 1's end?

ripe berry
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You see...

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He ends up trapped in the Basement with Aaron for 2 months

tribal talon
ripe berry
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the Basement somehow has a fricking underground Amusement Park

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Yeah I don't understand fully either

tribal talon
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How was he alive for 2 monthe

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Months

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Without any food..

ripe berry
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There's food in the Basement

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You really think Mr.Peterson is THAT inhumane that he wouldn't give Nicky and HIS OWN SON food?

tribal talon
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His own son is understandable

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But why the buttercup is he keeping Nicky locked

ripe berry
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It's a messed up way of letting Aaron have a friend down there

tribal talon
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So how'd he leave?

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Was he unlocked or he left?

ripe berry
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are you referring to Nicky?

tribal talon
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Yes

ripe berry
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Act 2, while being a distorted memory, does contain some correct info

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In being that someone (most likely Aaron) manages to get the Washing Machine open (I'm making this guess based off the HN2 Beta Basement Layout) and then Nicky escapes through the back, but Aaron stays behind

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and by that I mean Aaron stays in the Act 1 house]

tribal talon
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Why does aaron stay?

ripe berry
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He breaks a window to distract his dad after his dad notices Nicky escaping

ripe berry
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(in Hello Neighbor Diaries it's "I attract evil")

tribal talon
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What book are you referring to?

ripe berry
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Book 1

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Missing Pieces

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near the end

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Aaron literally thinks he's a bad omen, and he thinks he deserves being trapped by his dad in the Basement

tribal talon
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Is the book in the game?

ripe berry
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Books are canon to the games

ripe berry
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but yeah hope that explains it for ya

ripe berry
tribal talon
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It does explain a lot..

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I won't skip the act 2's ending next time

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Will there be noises of a window breaking?

ripe berry
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Yes

tribal talon
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Is the house not there when he goes in act 3?

ripe berry
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It's been burnt down in Act 3

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but that's potentially retconned

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since it's still standing in Reset Day(which takes place at the earliest in 2021 (for RB which is stuck in a time loop now for some reason)/2022 (for the rest of the world))

tribal talon
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Where'd the neighbor and aaron go if the house was burnt down?

ripe berry
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Neighbor is being (spoilers for the second Graphic Novel (The Raven Brooks Disaster)) ||Controlled by the Guest||

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and Aaron is implied to be the one who burnt the house down

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Meaning Aaron is quite possibly dead

tribal talon
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Was the "guest is neighbor" rumor false?

ripe berry
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Guest is a demon that sometimes possesses the Neighbor

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but Guest in HN2 is not the Neighbor

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but starting at the end of Graphic Novel 2 Guest is the Neighbor

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It's confusing

tribal talon
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Is the Graphic novel a document?

ripe berry
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I haven't mentioned Graphic Novel 1 since it isn't really all that important

ripe berry
tribal talon
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You bought them?

ripe berry
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Well, you see, I borrowed the books from my local library

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But I did see the prices for the books

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Graphic Novel 2 is at least $11, most of the books (Missing Pieces, Waking Nightmare, Buried Secrets, Bad Blood, Grave Mistakes, Puzzle Master, Graphic Novel 1, The Official Guide to Hello Neighbor (also known as The Neighbor's Notebook), and Reset Day) are around $6-$8

ripe berry
tribal talon
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That's quite weird, if someone paid for the game at least let them know the story. bravesmile

ripe berry
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They made HNHS bc the story wasn't clear enough

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then the books came

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and now here we are

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with 4 finished game

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2 games in development

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10 books (counting the Guidebook)

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and a upcoming Animated Series

wicked heath
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it has hidden plot. It isnt too relevent to the gameplay unless people are looking for it

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all you really need to know is:
There have been a bunch of kids going missing, and theres this weird guy who you believe kidnapped them

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if you want to go more in depth, then you pay more attention to clues and read its book series

tribal talon
wicked heath
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its like fnaf yknow

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except fnaf has no real context for those who never went into lore thingy

drifting elk
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fnaf is nothing like secret neighbor William Did not kidnap the kids he lured then Brutally killed them.

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secret neighbor is about the missing kids we don't know if the neighbor killed them

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that would actually be messed up

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coming from the neighbor he prob would kill children

ripe berry
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Mr.Peterson did not kill the SN kids

drifting elk
wicked heath
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i meant the concept of hidden lore

drifting elk
raw swan
ripe berry
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Hey can someone explain to me what exactly Guest World actually is

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I've heard of it but never heard it explained

strange lance
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Guest world was a theory about there being the real world (Raven Brooks) and then the destroyed abandoned world (Messy Brooks)

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Mirror world seems to be more popular now, which I like

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They've done so much stuff with mirroring things, mainly in streams

ripe berry
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Now I've also never heard Mirror World explained

strange lance
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Rimmor

wicked heath
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it used to be a meme about a world of madness

ripe berry
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I really be missing out on all of these alternate universe theories

wicked heath
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sometimes when someone would clip through the ground in sn or get stuck in an unused empty room, they could say "Ive entered the Guest World"

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which is a ref to the theory

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think of it as Brazil

ripe berry
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ok

tribal talon
ripe berry
wicked heath
tribal talon
ripe berry
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Raven Brooks, Missouri and Guest World, Brazil

tribal talon
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To get to Brazil you have to buy the funny things that allow you to travel in the sky (above the ocean)

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With a plane

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Or just already live there

wicked heath
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Internet Brazil

tribal talon
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O

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Meme Brazil

ripe berry
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Me adding a secret Guest World to my Raven Brooks in Minecraft Map (you have to locate a hidden button on the map):

wicked heath
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the guest world is very similar to error_world imo

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but nobody has seen what was there

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at least, nobody who is still living atm....

ripe berry
ripe berry
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What are you implying

wicked heath
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those who said they were going to find the guest world were never seen again.....

ripe berry
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Then I'll go look for it myself and try to return /j

wicked heath
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chances are you wont

ripe berry
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again

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/j

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Instead I'll try to send a Hello-Copter there, if that doesn't work then Guest World is more a anomaly then I thought

wicked heath
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"HE" will destroy it before anything could appear on screen.....

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And if the copter does film anything, he will come for you...

ripe berry
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Lemme guess... "he" is the Guest itself?

wicked heath
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probably

ripe berry
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It's the only known being to have been to Guest World and come out of there

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So chances are "he" is the Guest

tribal talon
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I'm the gueset

ripe berry
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Is "he" always aware of when someone enters "Guest World", if that's even what it's actually called?

tribal talon
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Yes

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Whenever someone enters guest world, a loud noise will happen

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And the guest does hear that loud noise

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So he goes search for where the loud noise came from

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So you better run away right after you enter guest world

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Find a place to hide

ripe berry
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I was actually /srs about going to Guest World...

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I am just outside Raven Brooks's Border

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I found a old document say Guest World is located somewhere near RB

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I am near the border of where Guest World was said to be located... What was that...?

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Calm down calm down, I'm just going to mark where Guest World is for future exploration

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or potential future exploration

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Anyways I don't think Mirror World is a thing

round geode
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I know that it's dangerous

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But the guest is cool|| and I want to give some seeds to him||

round geode
ripe berry
tribal talon
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What about Crowman World? That's where the Crowman's Shelter is located

ripe berry
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Actually that's known as the Den, not Crowman World

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Sorry for seeming like a nerd for correcting you there

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Den is somewhere within Guest World

fiery otter
ripe berry
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since I lost the costume I stopped visiting

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I was there when it was created

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I have proof

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My proof:

ripe berry
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A joke to refer to (originally) several people on the server who had the Guest as their PFP

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Coolwing is the only one who still has a Guest PFP who was a part of it

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I think I could try to find my old costume and put it on

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Guess(t) what

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I found the old costume

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see?

tribal talon
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Yes

ripe berry
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I finally found that old costume

urban fulcrum
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and i found my self a costume

ripe berry
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yo new member

urban fulcrum
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ye

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might not be for long tho

ripe berry
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anyways Hello Neighbor Lore

tribal talon
ripe berry
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true

jaunty mortar
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Lore

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Very cool

gentle galleon
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Order of games for people
(Hello neighbor secret of bosco bay, hello neighbor books 1-7, hn hide and seek, hn act 1,hn graphic novel 2,hn2, secret neighbor,hn act 2,3,and 4

ripe berry
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🤦

lyric zephyr
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I mean, technically Hide and Seek and Act 1 take place all in books 1-3

ripe berry
# ripe berry 🤦

It's: GN1 (the Secret of Bosco Bay), book 4 (Bad Blood), book 5 (Grave Mistakes). book 6 (Puzzle Master), Book 1 (Missing Pieces)/HN:HS, book 2 (Waking Nightmare), Book 3 (Buried Secrets)/AS Ep. 2 (not out yet but just mentioning it)/HN1 Act 1, Secret Neighbor, Hello Engineer, HN1 Act 2, HN2, GN2 (the Raven Brooks Disaster), HN1 Act 3 + Finale (Act 4), HND (Hello Neighbor Diaries), Book 7 (Reset Day)

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Guidebook, AS pilot, and the Nog Simming discord story are non-canon

remote plover
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just an idea, what if the guest is the shadow boy from the first game in a material form?

ripe berry
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I put the ()s to insert the titles of smth

ripe berry
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anyways debate: Is HN1 in 1996, 1997, or 1998?

tribal talon
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1987

daring yacht
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haha 1987 fanf reference!!!!!!

urban fulcrum
tribal talon
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It is?

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I thought it took place in 2017

ripe berry
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Oh wait I forgot to mention we aren't counting the second half of the game

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(Act 3 and Finale are in 2017)

tribal talon
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Really?

ripe berry
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Acts 1 and 2 are the ones the debate is referring to

ripe berry
tribal talon
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Like the year?

ripe berry
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yep

tribal talon
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When Nicky was a kid

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Ok

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So then HN2 takes place in the 2000s?

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If it takes place when Nicky is still a kid

urban fulcrum
tribal talon
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Wow I never knew

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Cuz I knew Nicky was 32 in act 3

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In his thirties

urban fulcrum
tribal talon
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And Aaron

tribal talon
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And maya is already dead in HN2 so I just thought about it

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But what act? 1 or 2

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Can’t he right after act 2

urban fulcrum
tribal talon
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Yea

urban fulcrum
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she fell of the roof

tribal talon
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I mean when does HN2 take place during act 1 or 2?

tribal talon
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He pushed her

urban fulcrum
tribal talon
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Ok

urban fulcrum
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It's: GN1 (the Secret of Bosco Bay), book 4 (Bad Blood), book 5 (Grave Mistakes). book 6 (Puzzle Master), Book 1 (Missing Pieces)/HN:HS, book 2 (Waking Nightmare), Book 3 (Buried Secrets)/AS Ep. 2 (not out yet but just mentioning it)/HN1 Act 1, Secret Neighbor, Hello Engineer, HN1 Act 2, HN2, GN2 (the Raven Brooks Disaster), HN1 Act 3 + Finale (Act 4), HND (Hello Neighbor Diaries), Book 7 (Reset Day)
Guidebook, AS pilot, and the Nog Simming discord story are non-canon

tribal talon
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So after act 1 then

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When HN2 takes place

ripe berry
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after Act 2

tribal talon
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Do you have any ideas who the guest (crowman) is?

ripe berry
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GN2 establishes ||it's a demon of some kind||

tribal talon
ripe berry
urban fulcrum
tribal talon
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Ig your right

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Ig we’ll find out when the game release

urban fulcrum
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. . .

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December 6th

tribal talon
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December 1st if you pre ordered deluxe

tribal talon
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||We already know some of it :trolled:||

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I know mean some other stuff

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Like when it takes place act 1 or 2?

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Most likely after Act 2

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Like when Nicky escaped?

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Yes

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Ok where’s Aaron in act 2?

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Still in basement?

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During Act 2, yes

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Ok

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After Act 2, ||in the Museum's attic||

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Oooh yeah

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In the beta it was a cardboard cutout

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With crying audio

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. H h

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Ik that I was just connecting

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Forgor to spoiler it

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I wonder what he will look like

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Maybe ragged

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Taller

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Obviously older

tribal talon
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But I just wonder

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Not older, not taller

tribal talon
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Aaron cadboard

tribal talon
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Cuz HN hide and seek is before HN1

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So he should be older

half creek
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Hi

tribal talon
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Unless if right after maya dies and Aaron is in the basement then Nicky shows up right after

half creek
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Hi guys

tribal talon
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||In HN2 full game he's the same age he was in Hide and Seek i think||

half creek
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Wassup

tribal talon
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That makes sense

half creek
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Wassup

urban fulcrum
tribal talon
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Cuz Nicky actually moved in across the neighbor in HN hide and seek

half creek
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I just want someone to say hello back

tribal talon
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Bye.

tribal talon
urban fulcrum
half creek
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Jeez

tribal talon
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So hide and seek is before HN1 obviously

young kayak
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🤦

tribal talon
#

Who?

young kayak
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I didn't want to see this... 😭

gentle galleon
ripe berry
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Those are just simming posters

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For all you know he could be in his house

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and it's the day Act 2 happened

gentle galleon
gentle galleon
ripe berry
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It could've been evening

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We don't even know what time of day Act 2 happened in

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Did you not get caught once in Act 2

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When you get caught the time of day changes

urban fulcrum
#

but my theory is that HN2 takes place after act 1 because quntin go to save aaron but he find out about nicky

fiery otter
#

it kind of has to take place after Act 1 because in HN 2 there are police investigating the house and in Act 1 we see nothing suggesting that

tribal talon
#

Def after act 2

ripe berry
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Komete doesn't want ANYTHING from the leaks mentioned in this channel

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not even under a spoiler tag

tribal talon
ripe berry
tribal talon
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It was me.......

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/srs

tribal talon
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Museum's

ripe berry
tribal talon
#

And Aaron was still locked up in the basement in Act 2

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So there's no way HN2 takes place after Act 1

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Unless they retconned

fiery otter
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the police come investigate after Nicky escapes

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so Ted escapes in his car with Aaron

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and they go to the museum

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that's how HN2 takes place after Act 1

ripe berry
#

Tat also means HN2 takes place after Act 2

gritty python
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random question: do you guys really learn this at 9?

tribal talon
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is that at all related to hn or the lore..

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#off-topic is the best channel for.. off topic conversations

wicked heath
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which technically doesnt make sense since its 3 years before... whatever..

wicked heath
tribal talon
wicked heath
#

yeah which is kinda inconsistent

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even Nicky mentions Aaron and Enzo were 9 by the time

tribal talon
#

Mr.Peterson: Insane Maniac or Sympathetic Villain,
your opinions?

wild ore
gritty python
gritty python
silent steppe
chrome palm
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What? This can’t be! It’s an Afton other than me?!?!?!?!?

wild ore
silent steppe
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No, I mean like actually is he the good one? We get a bit of context for either way, but is it actually true? I’m confused about that

lyric zephyr
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No, Mr Peterson overall is not a good person

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He's in denial over everything, and keeps doing worse things to try and deal with the bad things happening to him.

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So far he's gotten 6 people killed in his roller coasters, because in books 1-3 he states that safety features slow the rides down and make them less fun.

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Joe in Bosco Bay (Killed after being thrown out of his roller coaster cart on a sharp turn), 4 Unnamed People (Killed via their log on a water ride flipping over, drowning them), and Lucy Yi (Killed by her cart being launched off of the tracks and I think into a tree)

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But he denies any of it being his fault, and instead pushes the blame onto his son being a bad omen, despite the fact that Joe in Bosco Bay died before Aaron was even born.

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And that's just the accidental deaths he's caused with his rides, he's done LOADS of bad stuff! But people wanna make him seem like a good guy bc
"Wah wah family died :( Tryna protect his son that he actively blamed for everything.."

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The Luck Device just kinda, ruins that part of his character. I don't like it. Makes everything "OH, it wasn't HIS fault for his OWN actions! It was a magic luck gem used by the SECRET shadowy evil people causing every single bad thing to happen! All the consequences aren't HIS fault, he's a VICTIM!"

strange lance
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"Ted is just misunderstood!"

Ted building unsafe rides resulting in multiple deaths, locking kids away in his basement for 2 months, mentally abusing his children and wife and then later ||physically abusing his son in HN2, look at all those bruises||, and also trying to kill purposefully more kids in the GAAP where he's doing mad experiments causing those kids to be sent to a different world trapped forever in HE and also trying to flood the town destroying people's lives. Not including reset day cause he's possesed in that.

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But oh no luck devices it's not his fault he's a nice guy 😭

lyric zephyr
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I don't count HE as part of this but yeah that makes it actively worse

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HE I don't consider as canon bc it's like, too out there even for him

strange lance
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Well I only count HE for the laser drones, which do hurt you, and we know those are actually real cause they were in cinematic cutscenes which are real life

lyric zephyr
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Fair, but I just mean even the cutscenes HE is the most out there HN game

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But either way, Ted by all means is an AWFUL person

strange lance
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Very

lyric zephyr
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It's not.

strange lance
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No lol

urban fulcrum
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is it HN2

lyric zephyr
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Probably

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Could be any game, legit all you gotta do is change the banner

strange lance
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At least Ted had a small change of heart cause of 1 random girl he's know for like 30 minutes in GN2 oh wait he gets possesed right after too bad for him 🤪

lyric zephyr
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That's probably what flipped him to help

urban fulcrum
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i mean does HN2 have to take place after act 2 cuz nicky is still missing

lyric zephyr
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Well, technically before Act 2

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Since Act 2 is his escape

urban fulcrum
median stirrup
urban fulcrum
lyric zephyr
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Before and after Act 2

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But back to the topic just for a sec, I just
Don't get the people trying to defend Mr. Peterson. He's just awful.

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He's a 50 year old man he should know how to make proper decisions, but he's just insane

urban fulcrum
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It's: GN1 (the Secret of Bosco Bay), book 4 (Bad Blood), book 5 (Grave Mistakes). book 6 (Puzzle Master), Book 1 (Missing Pieces)/HN:HS, book 2 (Waking Nightmare), Book 3 (Buried Secrets)/AS Ep. 2 (not out yet but just mentioning it)/HN1 Act 1, Secret Neighbor, Hello Engineer, HN2, HN1 Act 2, GN2 (the Raven Brooks Disaster), HN1 Act 3 + Finale (Act 4), HND (Hello Neighbor Diaries), Book 7 (Reset Day) that's mine timeline

strange lance
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The kids suffer so much in HN.

Nicky: Trauma, PTSD, locked away for 2 months, then more trauma, then more after that.

Mya: Mental abuse from family, then death.

Aaron: Mental abuse, locked away for 2 months, transported and locked away again and abused more.

SN kids: Lots of anxiety in books, trauma, guilt of leaving friends to rot in basement and they also have a weird imagination of their dead friend and other weird stuff, not for long tho cause then they forget their locked away friends and go to the park where they and hunted by Ted and then are teleported to a desolate world (sandbox world) where remnants of their dead friend rest. They somehow escape (we'll know once they finish the stupid update) and then are stuck in a time loop in their town unable to leave and one is kidnapped while the others can't do much to help. Don't forget the main 3 also having to witness lots of crazy stuff probably being scarred for life.

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Poor SN kids lol

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Nicky and Aaron got it easy

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Mya easier

lyric zephyr
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Yeah that seems abt right

lyric zephyr
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Then they never even make an attempt to save them and instead go on to make a funny car

strange lance
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Hey look at this rocket hehe look it's the moon

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Oh Nicky? Nah back to imaging trying to summon Lucy from the dead

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Fr though why is Lucy being shoved in our face so much

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"Hey hey hey look Lucy from the books look at her look"

urban fulcrum
lyric zephyr
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Because apparently Lucy matters more to them than their friend who’s actually alive and is in grave danger
Who warned them about the guy who’s most likely to kidnap him beforehand

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Like, Nicky’s gotta be in bad health, and Aaron even worse

strange lance
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Hey guys there's man in a hat watching us...lets imagine we team up with Mr. Peterson, and chase the man off!

lyric zephyr
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Yeah!

strange lance
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Then lets imagine we activate 6 levers while teaming up with Mr. Peterson and pretend we all DIE

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Hahahaha!

lyric zephyr
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Hey guys, let’s forget our 2 missing friends and instead make a super cool race car! And also lets break into the park where our past best friend died in a brutal roller coaster accident!

strange lance
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Yeah lets go during the night and then imagine the place is bright in the sun instead of actually going in the day for some reason! We are normal kids!

urban fulcrum
lyric zephyr
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Or a train and is trying to kill us! Or has murder drones and is trying to kill us! Or

urban fulcrum
lyric zephyr
#

That’s already been said!

strange lance
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Who's ready for the Raven Brooks mist to arrive in SN 😂

lyric zephyr
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Bold of you to assume SN will be updated

strange lance
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Mist reveals!

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This is all about bringing back snow somehow

lyric zephyr
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Bc Mr Peterson used the funny Mayak weather powers to steal ALL the snow, of course!

strange lance
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The envelope jn the game has the grammar of a child, I don't think an adult wrote it lol.

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All YOur snoW are beLonGs To Me

chrome palm
#

Lore

fiery otter
lyric zephyr
#

Tbh Nicky and Aaron were probably treated the same, food wise at least
Since Ted intentionally lured Nicky into the basement, to silence him and to give Aaron a “friend”

tribal talon
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Wait so r Nicky and Aaron together in the attic at the museum?

loud tartan
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no

tribal talon
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Really

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Where’s Nicky then

loud tartan
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Nicky was locked up in the normal house in the basement

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after he escaped

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Aaron helped him

tribal talon
#

If he escaped why is he in the basement again

tribal talon
#

But if Nicky escaped why is he in the basement again

loud tartan
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HN2 is after Act 2 so that's normal that's there's Nicky's missing posters everywhere even if he escaped

tribal talon
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But where is Nicky in HN2!!!???

loud tartan
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in

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his house

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literally

tribal talon
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Who’s house the neighbor?

loud tartan
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wdym

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the green house?

tribal talon
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He doesn’t have a green house

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In HN1 it was blue

jovial mural
tribal talon
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And 2 story

loud tartan
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They just didn't made an proper model

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(we hope they change it)

tribal talon
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Change his house? No the HN1 house is better

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For Nicky

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HN1 house is better

loud tartan
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In hn2 his house is a green background house

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it's literally bad

tribal talon
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Ik

jovial mural
tribal talon
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Will Nicky be in HN2 if his house is at ther

loud tartan
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thanks you mods for deleting my message

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anyways

chrome palm
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Lore

loud tartan
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they said in a Q&A that nicky will be in HN2

loud tartan
chrome palm
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Yooo

loud tartan
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i could be wrong tho

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but i think they said that

chrome palm
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Nicky in hn 2 would be epic

loud tartan
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why would they do missing posters if he's not in game

chrome palm
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To annoy people

feral brook
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yes we need Nicky as a NPC

tribal talon
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He is

tribal talon
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Cuz if it was anytime before late 2021 then it might not be as true as it was back then

loud tartan
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i just can't remember

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ok

tribal talon
wicked heath
ripe berry
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MFW they can't even get ages consistent:

ripe wraith
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heyyy

tribal talon
ripe berry
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true

shell gull
tribal talon
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What

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We're not even playing as Nicky in HN2

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We play as a brand new character

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Quentin