#secret-neighbor
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what do you mean
a
open the jacket
dinner
when the name leak
theyre gone anyway
so i dont think its a problem anymore
more name leaks
don't leak my nam,e
unless u guys wanna play some other map
george
no its fine
more messing around
normal cause people are here
no we mess around
Laptop out of of charge
oh
Ping when space
@topaz hinge
Ok
gtg
I'm gonna go watch YouTube
sez u 
wait
why do you have a hot diamond pfp
🤨🤨🤨
The SN ticket booth model is so good...but that door oh my god and those windows oh my god Holo why didn't you make an actual door and window model it looks awful
🤨
🤨

what does the current tree even look like
Well they removed it from the LE (if that's what you're talking about)
It was that alp-🤮 ..alpha tree
Alpha tree is better
Lies. It's a fact that alpha tree is ugly
Have you seen the UVs underneath the tree? Oh wait, you can't

I’m going to see the UVs under the tree
Be prepared, it'll stun you
Also the Christmas bulbs
🤢 🤮
Using wallpaper textures

😳
OMG.
real (not fake)
Yeah right
rip bozos
there are stadia players👀
2 players rest in piece ☹️
😔 🙏
The giant enemy spi- ticket booth (it's huge)
I still can't believe they made it that big lol
I'm in neighbor form too
So it's BIG when you're a kid
“canon is subjective - you can have multiple people tell the same story with different details, because they perceived it differently” - god
Uh yes
Aka AlexN
I thought Nikita was god
Sources: dude trust me
help
Stylish hat
What
Yeah
just hope you can disable it in cq for trol
Maybe he gets like 5 and can get more from bathtub machines
Oh god I just realized how terrible those machines would be with ghost
Oh god
Unless the ghost ability was like, the last unlockable
But wait no it can't be, all his abilities can only be used IN ghost
Bathtubs should just give you upgrades and shouldn't be mandatory to get imo. Like you already have your powers but the machines will just enchance them if you want. That's what I would do.
Yeah
Things felt more balanced when the neighbor didn't have all his abilities from the start
Yep
Like rage
*Turns into the neighbor in the first 30 seconds
(Every sn sweat)
Back when there were only 2 classes and most people used scary
I think they should stop making neighbor classes, the first 3 were fine
They really need to balance the classes
This shouldn't be limited to just neighbor either. They need more classes for the kids
put it in #old-hn1-hnd-feedback-and-bugs (again)
Each new one strays further from the games original concept
i would happily agree with that
How so
also old ambience 😭
Ghost
türk var mı
Not murder mystery characters at all
The neighbor can disguise no matter what
no
just give us back the old ambience sounds😡
It's ok. Holo listens to us, we'll get it very, very soon
There is literally no reason to be secret
Was it ever advertised as murder mystery actually
People say stuff like this then cry when they don't win as neighbor
coming soon - holo, egs, tb
And the trailer showed the detective secretly killing everyone
Winning as the neighbor is way too easy
Depends on who you're playing with
I have never lost a game as the neighbor though
My main issue is there's no way to separate the kids
Yeah
we already asked for both bathtubs and old ambience to come back a long time ago and we still didnt get them
They stick together in huge groups
They clump together
2020: give tree! Holo: we listen!
2021: give tree! Holo: we listen!
And then you're forced to brute force
i understand they want to do upgrades but
You have no choice or they'll get all the keys
there's no incentive to split up either
Butcher was a way to combat this but then again butcher is better for outdoor environments like maps 3 and 5
old ambience is better and i dont get it why even delete bathtubs in the first place
"balancing"
Doesnt exist
They said they were "fixing" them but never added them back in
https://youtu.be/0GU36c9UC38 just give me this🥺
All the themes belong to Hologryph and tinybuild!
Cause some babys complained about not getting the powers
But now I have 4 other friends who can play with me, so no more randoms 😎
like thats all we are asking for
Honestly they need to just bring back old lighting, ambience, and UI
And the sonar
old ambience which was in the full game but was still replaced
Neighbor sonar was great
yes 100% bring back the alpha
agree except for lighting
(imo)
Why
Oh hell no
Old lighting was fantastic
Sonar was fantastic
very balanced
Clearly you guys never played the alphas
New lighting is just very glitchy (which guess what, they also won't fix)
yes 100% no scam
Oh, I swear it could detect anybody through walls at all times without a cooldown
You guys don't want the game go look like this?
Does it not do that?
I do
Alpha lighting is better in my opinion
It had a cool down lmao
Did it?
It was literally just the same sonar but portable and you could move gates
I never played the alphas
it literally didnt
i did play alpha but i forgot beta and alpha had different lightings
there was never a cooldown on the handheld sonar
I was there for every build
Didnt when youtubers played it anyway
Weird
well yeah the lighting is nice
I swear it did
i just forgot about this lighting existing
Also you could use gates from far away which is good
I wish you could operate gates in kid form now, to split people up
well yea the actual lights look better but i still prefer the darkness now tho
So you dont have to press the clocks
It was good for cutting off kids and leading them somewhere else
ok but read above
It makes it so obvious
It WAS dark that's the thing
i forgot alpha and beta had different lighting
But it wasn't pitch black without a flashlight
It was the perfect balance of dark and light
😭
Then they ruined it and have been trying to make it darker ever since (black fog)
I know that now
id still survive without the old lighting
but i wouldnt survive without bathtubs (even changed, as mouse suggested it) and the old ambience themes 😭 😡
Knew it
Yes
Best suggestions
Old ambience really fit with the old lighting
no it wasnt
pa2 was the only build with darkness where the flashlight was viable, but even then outside was still bright
halloween alpha was somewhat dark, but flashlight still kinda useless
christmas alpha and onward was basically just what we had until halloween 2020
true
I like the old lighting but Idc which one we have
I kinda dislike the old ambience honestly
but i can definetly see the new lighting with the old ambience themes
Its too quiet, and layer 3 sounds like a PvZ track
It just loops
so yeah
Over and over
😤
No I'm sorry please dont dox me
If you REQUIRED a flashlight, kids would only have 1 inventory slot
I hate the ambience when you're the last kid. It's too loud
ill do worse..
The old one was more intense
u mean the old one or the new one?
Current one
but you dont require a flashlight now either
its just a normal disadvantage
Does SN have a brightness setting
Because for me its basically completely dark
plz bring it back😡😭
Basement ambience it the best. Why they removed it in 2020 Halloween I'll never know
i dont think so?
sn sucks in its current state anyway so
Doesnt on ps4
that's completely relative to your monitor because its perfectly visible in the dark for me, and my monitor's on near default settings
only issue is finding keys on the ground n stuff
Big problem there
or maybe make it so we can change what ambience we want in audio settings:
classic ambience
uhhh.. new.. ambience???
would that be cool?
No because we've heard new ambience
oh I have a pretty high brightness setting
Yup
if not max
It sucks
yeah so you can have a brightness setting without completely changing the entire lighting system for the 3rd time
Same here
i like it
it is glitchy sometimes but
imo it isnt as broken as some ppl say
If you were there for the alphas youd know how sad the game is now 😔
- they did fix a few bugs
New physics broke EVERYTHING
Remember mayak
I loved doing Mayak
but after a new update somehow more bugs are introduced
and I still do
There's new physics?
Biggest problem right now
yeah the game no longer having roof sliding too
No proper quests, levelling up etc
I liked it in the final state
why did they even get rid of it
same
Yes. Now anything in diagonal can be climbed
That's not physics thats a collision change
ik
but
why
did they get rid of it
For the new event
which event
You need to climb into the roof of one of the guard posts to get back in bounds
The Lucy event??
Kids complete the objective too fast and keycards just force everyone into a group
Theres only 1 new event
Yes that one
but the roof sliding was deleted before this even was introduced
No? You can hop off the stairs and get back
Not as a kid :/
my problem is that you still consistently get stuck running over items like pumpkins and hitting the neighbor while there's items in front of him is almost as hard as finding a needle in a haystack
I can
As a kid too
Youd die
Nope
Is there some way to clip back in?
they couldnt delete roof sliding for an event which they didnt even have planned back then
Me and my friends did an experiment, the neighbor has a super dumb hitbox
Because to my knowledge you're supposed to jump across the guard posts back into the place with no collision
Noo
Yes
It's been planned. It even had the Lucy memorial
Half the items just sorta clip through him
Unless the roof was fixed before map 5
But then again map 5 has been in development since the qna's
It still needs to be removed either way
Hope we get a hn2 raven Brooks open world map 😳
How would that work lol
dont ask
They'd need a new way to get back in bounds without glitching it
Is bagger a good character for begginers?
Yes
Yes
Who should i buy next?
He has 3 inventory slots and can't die from fall damage
Bruh. You don't need to hop on the gaurd house roofs to get back.
yep, there's a reason he's the default character on first launch
And he slows the neighbor when picked up
I didn't knew about the falo damage
Hello people
You never explained the other way to do it as a kid
tB: this should be hn3 pre-alpha
Hn2 museum map 😳
Layout needed
Guard house closest to the main area. Hop the stair railing, jump on the invible walkway.
And you're back
What stair railing 
hello people
Bruh
...didnt they remove that invisible walkway?
The railing of the stairs of the closest guard house
I thought??
Yeah I realized after saying it
Idk. But you can still jump to the roof ledge either way.
Have you tried this since the last update
Yeah
Well either way the intended way was the roof route
He can die from fall damage
Just not when full health
Mmhm
And either way, stair railing is a way out in my opinion the simplest
i just tried it and yeah the invisible walkway is gone, and also impossible for bagger to jump across (though ig for him specifically that's irrelevant)
So again it wasnt intended
So they changed the collision just for one thing. Nice job Holo
It's an important thing
though i dont think you need to mess with roof sliding just to make it easier to get inside bounds, just place a climbable shelf there or something??

But it's such a random and bold claim
all my homies play on steam anyway
New one sucks too. You trip on everything. Spam climb on anything. Game breaking at times
I could step in here and say "hello neighbor 2 and secret neighbor are actually the same game and Quentin is enzo, the devs told me"
I never had an issue with it
Odd
Like bruh. Just climb up and get over the wall
player still spazzes out on a lot of things lol
hell
I know but with the amount of roofs in the maps it was really noticable
Especially because you can get on the roof of every map
All my homies phased thru map 2 kitchen

Anyone else feel that the running animation is kinda crap
The characters hands stay stuck in the same position
Also the lighting is so broken on the map 1 roof
It should be something like hn1 and hn2 were the hands are visible
a lot of the player animations are clunky
Also why would anyone toggle to walking
What is the purpose of walking besides neighbor stamina
Why did they give neighbor a actual animation when jumping/falling. While the kids just don't move at all
Yeah its strange
And why are neighbor cosmetics more expensive despite giving you a disadvantage and having a super low chance of being the neighbor
At least his legs and arms move. The kid are just still.
well that's just how it is for any multiplayer games with a big bad
but i still agree that neighbor cosmetics are ehhh
Neighbor cosmetics are mostly DOGWATER
The thing is, they put you at a disadvantage too lol
(If you're paying with friends that is)
Like wow guys let me buy a bandaid for 2000 coins
an option in custom game to disable them would be nice, since its entirely irrelevant in quick game
Mostly
3000*
like you probably arent gonna be spending the time to memorize the combos of strangers you'll likely never meet again
worlds most expensive bandaid
I like how they got so many cool ideas with contest and then none got added
capitalism in a nutshell
No one does original combos anymore
I do
the easter gloves look really bad on that combo and i dont understand why people do it
at least use camo or default gloves
The easter gloves dont look great anyway
The spikes are kinda ugly
Spikes are way too big
im still waiting for more butcher cosmetics so there can be more good looking combos for him than this
My butcher is just art butcher
Ew
yes except roof sliding was deleted before map 5 came
its really been almost a year since there's been a new purchasable butcher cosmetic 
Butcher is so overpowered he sint even fun to use
Butcher now clips into himself. Really noticable on his Christmas one. 😭
the butcher cosmetics incident 
I think they may be trying to pretend butcher doesnt exist
Tiny tips: map 2 part 2 when. It's been months

the tiny tips incident
Why do we need a part 2
and the event was planned during the map 5 release
..probably...
I don’t like tip videos tbh
They're ultra cringey
Because they said they'd make a part 2 showing the rest of the house
Game is self explanatory and I find it more fun to find out things yourself
Tiny tips are cringe
Sn is basic
they're mostly useless for me since i already know a lot about the game
Only more complicated things are characters and their abilities
and they dont seem to be that popular either since i still see people cluelessly running around
But you can just view it
Weekly brawl hasn't been changed in like a month
Can't they just loop it like the shop
I really wanna play it
Brawls aren’t even good imo
weekly brawl system is dumb anyway, all of them should be accessible at any time
there's 0 point to having a rotation when you can access the LE maps (that are actually catered to the level design) any time you want
^
LE contest results incident 
They said they had like 30 maps left like a month ago
It should not take this long
No they listen!!11! They added light switches and they buffed clown that one time!!11
did clown even really need a buff
tbh i still was able to get results with him before
His smoke bomb still needs a bigger cooldown
the only good change to clown recently was letting you choose whatever prop you want
cause you are a pro Samuel
even back then u just needed to combine item throwing with the smoke bomb and you can still team wipe lol
"clown doesnt have rage so he's bad!!" was horrible mentality
clown haters
People used to say he was the worst then his smokevombs started slowing more and everyone was like OMG OP!!!!
I'm hoping that they realized dances are not wanted, and that they never make any
i wonder if clown wouldn't have been buffed if ppl recognized his potential in combat and mobility sooner
the fortnite incident 
😭
having a sweaty scary neighbor do the floss on me while im stuck knocked on the floor would actually be awful
his mobility may now be out-bested by ghost, but at least he's still decent at combat 
scary better at fighting
ghost better at mobility
butcher better at range
but all my homies like the all around fighter
Imagine walking down The street and see 6 kids breaking windows and a mad Man trying to Grab them

scary neighbor is prob better at surviving during a fight, but its way faster to knock everyone down with clown tbh
i feel like they're even when it comes to combat
smoke bomb + power milk
Police. The end
Tru
exactly its game over when he pulls out that combo
the lopice incident 
Haven't played The game yet, but i have Fun watching videos lol
😰
don’t play it
Save yourself
play among us or something else instead
don’t let it take you
run while you still can
its funny that clown is a technically better all around character than scary neighbor
the discord moderator incident 

Ye
its a good time if you're willing to accept a lot of BS
I mean, i don't play it
But i watch videos, which are very funni
the biggest problem with SN is the bugs, crashes and hackers.
i mean sure the level editor is fairly clunky, the community is less than great, the gameplay is more fps than social horror, and updates are inconsistent, but at the end of the day i've had some of the most fun with friends on this game
Dances are a mistake
In a game like fortnite, they make sense to exist
In a game like secret neighbor, oh my god what were they thinking
Also does anyone else think that the neighbor is just too loud?
might as well be carrying a submachine gun with how fast you can throw stuff at ppl though
Him making loud ass grunts and breathing sounds every time he transforms is super annoying when you're trying to be secret
Me and my friends only play secretly because its most fun, but it's so hard to transform behind someone and catch them when you hear "HOH" come from the neighbor when he transforms
that with even footsteps of kids being heard from like 3 stories away makes being secret p hard
The bookshelves are super loud too
And since everyone clumps together in a big group they can immediately figure out who the neighbor is
And dont get me started on voice chat distance
there should be more incentive to splitting up
Yeah
The game has way too short of a time limit tbh
15 minutes for a mystery game?
Like how
We always set it to 30
which outfit is better for clown
Guest
like alright here's something controversial, i feel if you removed the sonar splitting up would be way more effective of a strategy
it would mean that it'd be a lot harder for the neighbor to find you than if you all grouped up, thus making it harder for him to get kills immediately
Sonar is dumb
hold on
It should only become active if the clock reaches 5 minutes left
Oh god ew
if you had the voice chat distance work kinda more like phasmophobia and make the other game sound effects volume be altered by walls and roofs and stuff, i think that'd make the whole "being secret" deal more interesting
What is that combo bro 😩
these are both horrendous but the first one is slightly less aggravating so first one is better
What buttons are those. I've never seen then
I think they were part of the blue series
can't remember
Oh. They look different in that pick
Little golden ones with stars on em will appear in daily shop every 5 seconds
Along with the rest of the denim stuff, beaver brave, metal brave and pig inventor hat
And repeat
Over
And over
And the featured items are repeats too
It hurts
Pig inventor hat was ruined. The eye doesn't glow like at all, and it looks pixely
The lighting ruined everything
¯_(ツ)_/¯
It makes me sick just looking at it
@twin blaze that’s 3 words
no its one
ya love that combo so much you need a bag to puke in
also the impersonator keeps sending me friend requests
My combo is way better
seems like you didnt get that bag
show
Alien head + biker camo jacket + summer shorts + halloween pumpkin 2020 gloves
I wanna see
perfection
Its perfect
but I'm talking about clown combos

scarecrow clown better + ratio!
RIP BOZO
RIP BOZO
is this a good combo?
it matches the jeans
idk what that looks like
camo jacket
old man
is that the upgrade icon used for ghost
They could have made an ectoplasm icon...
Hi
please move to #off-topic
sn huh?! 😂
that wasnt very nice 😄
How is everyone
I am currently "meh" and the reason is not relevant to SN whatsoever.
Ok
Does anyone else think the ghost should have a different color background? It's incredibly similar to the butchers background color
bruh still cant get in secret neighbor i figured out im not on the right update and i cant update my game 😦
What version you in?
Latest update only available on steam for now, other platforms will update soon
Are you playing Microsoft version or Xbox version?
Maybe because the error you got probably a bug because they didn’t update since a month ago
dang if i google how to fix it it just shows how to fix it on steam
Because Xbox, ps4, mobile, Microsoft store, and switch is outdated version
so do you know how to fix it you seem to know a lot about this?
I don’t play Xbox or Microsoft version but maybe is just internet connection or just restart the game or and uninstalled and reinstalled to make the game work
ive tried all of that.....
1 second im gonna try something really quickly
nevermind it didnt work
im outta here
ah yes, floating houses
uhhhh
amazing lighting
the unmatched power of the sun
yoo new feature lets go floating houses
i had last 2 keys and my teamate left me to die
i guess you could call it left for dead
i have a skill issue now
i got into match with teamer 😭
how i become bneighbor
pls
remember when we could place a chair for bypass the keycard 3 door here ?
yeah
hey wait a minute
What?
they are in my game
Yea and I see you are trying to make the map 3 before the rocket science update with the neighbor room and now this!
Anyone know what the purpose of a radio is?
It's a blue item, meaning it's of some significance
I know you can turn it on, but is that it?
.
Well, yes
Its a special interactable
@warm raft sn will probably not come to android
why should it come to android
Uh
so that Android players can play it
i bet 50% of people that ask for SN android wont even be able to run it
So all the bedders can
after all, majority are only gaving android phones
Exactly
true
but they dont know that
kids crying that HN1 cant run on their 2009 samsung fridge
true
I feel bad for them tho
I know their pain
cuz, once upon a time, I was one of them
before I got my PC
I want a gaming laptop or something so I can play pc games and sn steam as that’s what Tb cares about the most
ye
I’ll probably get a gl
Before the update
And that won’t be until a few weeks/months
If you want less updates, go ahead
Beg them to release it on android
Yo, how can I find a match of Secret Neighbour through Discord?
get a role in #roles
and go find lfg chat
ayo thanks g @hybrid ridge
np
Am I really though
skill issue
Ah yes
If you want to run other games
Get an actual pc
I'm stuck with a gl
And others run terribly at times
Sns ok
30-40 fps
So
Would be cool a effect like this
having the smoke from the rocket come out of the bottom area of it
It should be more realist if we got damages from the rocket engines at launch, its dangerous to be close
Well, its kids world imagination
Imagine got projeted on roofs by engines
Guys I got banned :(
Idk if it's temporary or not :(
I did nothing
The game just says you've been banned
the ban incident
Bruh
Did you bought something on shop and got disconnected just before?
Yes!
Youre not the only victim
Hey @hot lodge
Looks like it wasnt just a troll
You have pretty much exposed yourself
Have fun 👍
You sent no proof
It's dangerous here
Also we didnt ban you, the game did it on its own
And no, dont try to get out with the shop bug
That has been definitely fixed
Unless youre using an older version, which you shouldnt be able to do
uhum ok

Hello
Nothing to talk about aa
!sn update
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About Secret Neighbor
Hello Neighbor Multiplayer. Secret Neighbor is a Multiplayer Social Horror Game where a group of intruders try to rescue their friend from the Neighbor's creepy basement. Only problem is one of the intruders is the Neighbor in disguise. Secret Neighbor is available now for PC and XBOX.
Steam Page: https://store.steampowered.com/app/859570/Secret_Neighbor_Hello_Neighbor_Multiplayer/
These are the minimum specs to run Secret Neighbor:
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
Processor: Intel Core i5-3330 3.0 GHz, AMD FX-8300 3.3 GHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760, Radeon R9 270
RAM: 6GB RAM
HDD: 5GB available space.
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!snconsole
Please read: #secret-neighbor message
Hmmm
Time to right a 500 page fanfiction of what the neighbor does with the kids
...

Real Ghost
idk
ikr !
It's write not right
Yall always come up with creative names
amongus!!!!
i personally believe my lobby names are the most creative
Proof?
Correction Simonsbutter
Show us your CG names
I hate randomness
it adds variety i guess
what the game really needs is one lock pick spawns in the map that can open any lock color 
Although this might be a bit op
🤨
why did you paint me Enzo ? -Leader
no
Death
Anything interesting happen while I was away
My name without the . Says it
kinda ironic how the ghost wields a flashlight
hand
the fog shader really hates the scary neighbor shader lol
Scary neighbor?
It seems you made a slight mistake, I will now act like it's a massive problem
Since I'm an avid Twitter and reddit user
I think is me?
yeah, i can see the ghost neighbor from very far away
but only in his physical form
i meant it as agreeing not as an answer
owner
what
Are you talking to Alex|CEO 😳
yes
colored names gone yet?
nope
kk
I wish the current game icon looked like this. It looks cool with act 1 in the backround.
Ngl SN isnt that dead
Its like
Weird
Cuz i keep seeing very fresh accounts
But the average player-count stays the same
penalty quick games are always dead
and it sucks
when you get a penalty from a crash
I am so pissed
I was the neighbor and there was only 1 kid left
That kid did me so bad
I missed a damn hook (with butcher) and he responded with a bullet
I was boutta win
Damn it
for iOS
whats this from?
k e y s
the pc version has almost everything the other versions have but just unused
basically its the subscription to unlock all characters thats it
ahh
ok
its like a picture i guess
Well its funny that pre alpha man is sort of canon now
Hey everyone!
Just a brief note here on something non-Neighbor related but still pretty cool. We will have an announcement for pc players only in a moment, its for a free playable demo of Hello Puppets Midnight Show NON VR version!
We're giving our community the opportunity to play it since a fair amount of people had mentioned wanting to try it out in the past, but couldn't because of the VR requirement!
thats fair barney. its completely optional! 
It's cool but every time there's an announcement I think it's the paranormal update for console players
hello
i'm ready for the hello puppets hello neighbor cross over 
hello cap-man
Secret neighbor vr would be slightly cursed
this is just an opportunity for pc players so only pc players were pinged
I have experienced it partially
Oh god
Why would you do such a thing
i'm not a woman
Hello neighbor vr tho 😳
hello neighbor VR would be pretty bonkers huh?
Yes
Just a tad
The neighbor sees me! Lemme just walk out of the house and into my driveway to get away from him...
No movement stick support would truly make the game immersive
Get it on the oculus quest and walk around your house shouting about moustache men coming to grab you
people would try to walk through the basement door XD
Convince your family that you're insane today!
You can already do that in the full game 😳
that moment when you try to play SN VR and you bump into someone so you take off your headset to apologize...and see they're Mr. Peterson
Maybe something like the pre alpha, a lot slower paced
Full game the neighbor sees you every 5 seconds and the artstyle would- no offence to the devs- make you sick in seconds.
this kinda feels like a possible trailer skit though
thats the trailer, thats it. haha.
you know it ;P
Confirmed
Posting it all over twitter
freg
Anyone else is going to check Hello Puppets demo?👀
freg update sn
The VR Trailer is ||Showing Enzo playing SN VR, giving players a basic idea of how gameplay looks. He then accidently bumps into something while trying to get to the basement. He takes off his headset in confusion before he sees the neighbor in front of him and he gasps. Mr. Peterson growls before he grabs Enzo, leading into the release date/announcement.||
no vr neighbor games, please.
I havent used my headset in like a year, I need something neighbor related for it
:insertwerewolfneighboremote:
butcher and ghost have pretty much no cosmetics
clown and scary neighbor have a fair amount
the purple gloves are my favorite sn purchase
I really like the entire red scary neighbor set
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