hn3-discussion

[river gyro]

okay you has to be a child there is no way

[near hawk]

Okay what was the topic before this

[deft summit]

no I don't believe that actually

[misty linden]

Brought what 🙃🙂

[deft summit]

I think English is just not their first language

which is understandable

[river gyro]

you must be karvilax

[deft summit]

English is ridiculous

[misty linden]

Also dude wait

I remember something

Are you the one who

[gleaming acorn]

what

[deft summit]

who what

[near hawk]

Basguvenlik and Karvilax are enemies yea yeah yeah anyway

[misty linden]

React my ai slop with the (👎) emoji?

You

[gleaming acorn]

this has always been my pfp

[deft summit]

I'm not the only one here who doesn't like Generative AI

[winter lark]

I don't either

[deft summit]

or anything generated using an LLM

[gleaming acorn]

never once

[winter lark]

ai sloptopus

[river gyro]

nobody like Gen AI

[misty linden]

I very hate ai too man if any game use i quit the game but this i just send my ai for fun

[near hawk]

So any ideas what the placeholder cubes for place of reflection are supposed to be

[near hawk]

Then why post it

[deft summit]

Arch I think found the image in another server I remember vaguely something about that

so not really copying

[winter lark]

talented artist uses ai

[misty linden]

Because is not official if I'm owner of the game I'm not gonna do anything about ai

[river gyro]

okay I am starting to dislike you

[deft summit]

"2 + 2 = 5" kind of statement ngl

[near hawk]

Can we talk about something else

[misty linden]

? What's math about #hn3-discussion

[deft summit]

contradictory statements

[near hawk]

Like this

[misty linden]

Is this him Right Aris

[near hawk]

Or literally anything else

[river gyro]

okay no wonder why mikey hate you

[misty linden]

Ok i understand now that math

My bad

[deft summit]

maybe to test some things out, not sure what though

[misty linden]

What happened?

[deft summit]

I guess any lighting changes they make

[river gyro]

You're an child, please rest.

[near hawk]

Nikita did say it actually is related to personality.
Or imply it.

[deft summit]

wait wdym reflections

[misty linden]

I just know that hn server have sticker to send

[deft summit]

that doesn't seem to correlate to the characters unless I'm misreading what you're saying

[river gyro]

How old are you, buddy?

[untold grotto]

the forest dweller goes to placeholder cubes and plays a animation

[near hawk]

So the dweller does this animation thing

[misty linden]

W 🔥

[deft summit]

so animation point

[river gyro]

okay that's obviously a made up lie

[misty linden]

Teenager play hn yo

[deft summit]

HN1 has animation points as well

[meager walrus]

son

[meager walrus]

when your 18 your an adult

if your 19 your also an adult

[river gyro]

dude, you doesn't seem to understand what I am talking about

[misty linden]

I hate the word son idk why

[deft summit]

not that, they just suspect them of being a child from how they are speaking

[misty linden]

(Joking) 🙂

[misty linden]

Ok 👌

[deft summit]

I don't think they are though atleast I'm not entirely sure

[untold grotto]

he plays this animation with going to the cubes named Place of Reflection

[near hawk]

#hn3-discussion message
This too

[river gyro]

Child, just go to sleep.

[misty linden]

Official?

[gleaming acorn]

ctarchaxis support is crazy

[eager glade]

He's 23

[gleaming acorn]

nah i totally stole it from the guy

wore it for a few days

can't stop me

[river gyro]

Yes

[misty linden]

He look a bit dirty the guest

[river gyro]

he said he is 19

you're blocked, I don't like you

[near hawk]

No idea what else Nikita could mean by that other than place of reflection

[untold grotto]

the forest dweller has one routine

[gleaming acorn]

meet me at 48°52.6′S, 123°23.6′W nerd... we'll face each other...

[deft summit]

ok that's a bit unnecessary but I get why you did it

[misty linden]

Block? So you been chatting with him in dm? 🙃 I'm confused

[untold grotto]

and its it

[deft summit]

do those actually lead anywhere

[gleaming acorn]

||these are coordinates for the center of the pacific ocean||

[deft summit]

or is it just in an ocean

[smoky haven]

thats not how that works

[deft summit]

ok it's the ocean

[winter lark]

What did he do? im not paying attention sometimes, im attempting to make something in blender

[river gyro]

no

[deft summit]

then just block her or whatever

[smoky haven]

what was happening while i wasnt here jesus

i was taking pretty screenshots

[eager glade]

He 19 thens

[misty linden]

Isn't degt she

Not he

[deft summit]

stupidity

[gleaming acorn]

Block? So you have been cubing with him in square? 🙃 I'm box

[eager glade]

Wassup izzy

[misty linden]

What screenshot

I hate screenshot

[deft summit]

like to be fully blunt

[smoky haven]

im testing out some new lighting in the game

[deft summit]

you don't know what it is then

[winter lark]

I think they've been squaring up in the cube

[misty linden]

Oh your game screenshot

[near hawk]

She shot her screen a few times

[smoky haven]

yeah.. ? what else would i be talking about

[winter lark]

lol

[smoky haven]

this server is so strange

[winter lark]

"i hate screenshot"

[deft summit]

probably assumed you were screenshotting the convo even though you said they were pretty

[misty linden]

Sorry but I'm not sure 🙂

[smoky haven]

im not paid enough for that

[misty linden]

For what?

I'm confused

Screenshot game or discord

[deft summit]

even though screensotting the convo is like not even that bad

[winter lark]

yes, screenshotting the chat would definitely be called a "pretty screenshot"

[smoky haven]

😭 THE GAME

[deft summit]

game

[near hawk]

Oh no who screenshoted our convo!

[deft summit]

you know what I'm screenshotting this and sending it to my aunt

[misty linden]

I shouldn't said it since first

[winter lark]

she got hit with a bazooka?

[civic totem]

Oh my God...

[smoky haven]

i am testing out some new lighting but i think its a BIT too bright..

[deft summit]

also tbh this may be an understatement

[misty linden]

Your the right side?

So cool

[deft summit]

they look really good!

[smoky haven]

yes

[misty linden]

True

Why fanmade look good than original

[winter lark]

Reshade?

[civic totem]

It's definitely too bright

[smoky haven]

no im tweaking the in game engine rn

[winter lark]

oh okay cool

[smoky haven]

so unreal engine 5 lol

[winter lark]

this unfinished game actually runs better than any other finished ue5 game

[misty linden]

Wait BTW how she got the map 🧐

[winter lark]

shes just ingame

[smoky haven]

im in game

[misty linden]

Oh

[winter lark]

its not a fangame

[deft summit]

they are trying to optimize it to all hell

[winter lark]

I would say they should do that last, but then all these smaller releases would be completely unplayable

[smoky haven]

weirdly i really like how bright it is

might just be me tho im weird

[deft summit]

I mean it makes the colors more vivid so I get it

[winter lark]

I think it looks better than the greys of the default

[deft summit]

also yeah

[gentle wedge]

can somebody help mes

[deft summit]

nobody would be able to play and give feedback

[winter lark]

exactly

[deft summit]

YouTubers wouldn't be able to give the game free promotion

it'd be such a mess so they get the optimization to where atleast the majority can play

[winter lark]

I really want backseat to play the HN3 pre alpha

he's very recently done a HN2 playthrough

like within the last few days

[misty linden]

?

Who are you

[gentle wedge]

wdym who are you 😭

[misty linden]

:0

Never see you before

[gentle wedge]

ooop

well yeah how do i help the people there

are there any hints to do it

or how

[winter lark]

there are, but you just have to look around for them

[misty linden]

Help what?

[winter lark]

the only 2 I know you can help, are the guy working on his car near the supermarket, and the baker

[misty linden]

Ohh

[gentle wedge]

hmm

[misty linden]

The man baker?

[gentle wedge]

becasue i got the thing on the note

but how do i give it

[winter lark]

there's just the one baker

nobody else

[winter lark]

what thing

[misty linden]

His name januez?

[gentle wedge]

like the volume 8 thing

[winter lark]

again, just one baker... so if thats his name then thats his name

[misty linden]

Ohhh :D

[winter lark]

ohhh yeah thats a bit strange for interaction, sometimes i was able to give it to him by right clicking, sometimes if you drop it on the floor he will pick it up and he still becomes your friend

[gentle wedge]

ohhhh okii

and then the baker and historian

i have no idea 😭

[winter lark]

yeah idk about the historian

if you want me to help you with the baker though, then ask

[misty linden]

Guys I can't find neighbor Weather place the map super huge

[winter lark]

I wont tell you how to help the baker without you telling me you wanna know

[gentle wedge]

did you find the notes

[gentle wedge]

just like a hint on how to find out what to do

[misty linden]

What is note?

Notebook?

[winter lark]

yeah idk where the note is to tell you how to help him

[eager glade]

Whats happening

[gentle wedge]

press tab

to see objectives

[misty linden]

What note????

[misty linden]

Oh thanks

[gentle wedge]

np

[misty linden]

Also your pfp nice but i like the old one

[eager glade]

Whats happening

[eager glade]

Tanks

[gentle wedge]

if you complete the objective do they become friends?

[misty linden]

New member join the conversation only that

[eager glade]

Interesting

[misty linden]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-tank-kpz-70-mbt-70-war-thunder-gif-13322009097111941772

Pov you said tank

[misty linden]

Yea

Okays chat is dead because of me

I'm the last message everytime

[winter lark]

i've just been looking around the bakery and can't find a note to tell you what to find, I know what to find so i'd know if the note was the right one or not

[gentle wedge]

ohh okok

[winter lark]

so if you want to know the location of the item, i could tell you that

its not that close by, unlike the cinema for the other guy

[lavish ravine]

Anyone here k the name of the wife of januzh ? Or her Dont have a name yet ?

[limpid pewter]

omelia

[gentle wedge]

not the location

but like what kind of item is it?

[winter lark]

you're not gonna find it just by knowing the item

lmao

[gentle wedge]

oop

[winter lark]

its a baking book

[gentle wedge]

er just tell me ig

[winter lark]

its north of the bakery

like north if you're facing the front entrance

I really dont wanna give away too much, because that ruins the fun a bit

but I dont think there are any clues for this one

[gentle wedge]

okok

[smoky haven]

i thinkk i got it perfect now

oh btw guys do you think they will release the ost on spotify

[orchid gazelle]

hopefully

[night vigil]

I really hope so

[smoky haven]

ive never seen raven brooks post bakery explosion this is so scary looking

[wanton silo]

If they do that, this will be awesome !

[orchid gazelle]

it reminds me of silent hill

but colorful

[smoky haven]

tbh

HN 3 as a whole remimds me of silent hill idk why

i think with how empty the town is and the structure of the buildings

[orchid gazelle]

if u check nikitas yt channel u can find old vids of him play sh2 lol

[smoky haven]

i know i watched them ^^ i wonder if SH 2 was inspiration for the town structure

[eager glade]

doing the explosion in morning is so beautiful

it looks eerie

[smoky haven]

its giving.. silent hill

silent brooks..

[narrow gust]

This server is eerie

[civic totem]

...guest studios

[smoky haven]

in my restless dreams i see that server. hello neighbor games. you promised you would release another prototip again someday.. but you never did

[granite junco]

Someone asked Nikita somewhere if silent hill inspired hello neighbor 2 at all and he said yes

Don’t remember where he answered that question though

[smoky haven]

hello neighbor 2 ?... hm thats interesting

[granite junco]

I also think there was a soundtrack that sounded a lot like silent hills instruments

Which was cool

[smoky haven]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5WYvSzllUW7OvlGmqnL1gM?si=95244b0f32d94679 need a track like this in hello neighbor 3 tbh

[granite junco]

yesss I would love smth like the day of night

[smoky haven]

yessss oh my god

[granite junco]

I hope the map will be as big as silent hill

[smoky haven]

dude id love that like

having a big river with a park

or even old silent hill type a deal

[granite junco]

I also hope that hello neighbor 3 will be just longer than being able to beat it in one sitting

[smoky haven]

longer + less stressful for sure

[granite junco]

I love the other neighbor games but I would just love one where we can have longer playthroughs, more time to put into the game

[smoky haven]

exactly ! id love a hn game with a really long playthrough

[granite junco]

I would love to go into more shops and buildings too, like the flower store, or the bars

[smoky haven]

YESS i think hn 3 really does need more stores and stuff but it hink that will all come in later versions

id love like a bar and a flower shop or even like that big mall from HN 1

or even like an abandoned factory

[granite junco]

a flower shop character would be cool

[smoky haven]

hear me out.. iris but now redesigned and refit as a flower shop worker

#peak

[granite junco]

she could wear like an apron

And hold like flowers or watering cans

[smoky haven]

perfect vibe for HN 3 me thinks

[granite junco]

The mall would be cool for the guest

Like hello guest

Iris could walk around and water the plants

[smoky haven]

yess that be so awesome literally my dream atp

[granite junco]

nikita better be writing this down

I wonder what Ernesto will be like in the hotel

[smoky haven]

im guessing he will be at the desk most of the time ^^

[granite junco]

Yeah maybe sometimes he will walk around and fix things

what do you guys think about the new mr Peterson?

The style reminds me of Tim Burton

[smoky haven]

hes supah awesome

i love his new design

[granite junco]

wow I saw the photo but didn’t know you could bring it to her

[tawny belfry]

U can

[untold grotto]

thought that quest is unfinished

[untold grotto]

he is like opposite of janusz

[civic totem]

Yep

[granite junco]

how do u start the quest do u need to pick it up?

[celest plank]

what quest mate

isnt it unifinished

what did i miss

[untold grotto]

ernest is someone reliable, honest, trustworthy
janusz is someone who makes petty calculations and always thinking about his wallet

[granite junco]

no I’m just wondering how you get it to show up in the quest section

[untold grotto]

you need to give her that

[granite junco]

Ah thx

[untold grotto]

wondering what will be their relationship

[granite junco]

same

what r u guys hoping they add

in the next alpha or update

[long field]

i hope they add nicky roth's house in hn3 alphas

and betas i hope

i wonder how the guest's and mr peterson's relationship will be on hn3

[tall sorrel]

so far we know how the game's programming labels them viewing each other

[long field]

wait

[civic totem]

What would be point of having the house in the game?

[long field]

i found this on reddit guys

[tall sorrel]

Mr. Peterson sees the Guest a Friend
but the Guest sees him as a Monster

[untold grotto]

the neighbor loves the guest
the guest is afraid of the neighbor

[long field]

but guys i found this on reddit

[civic totem]

Doesn't fit with the game's artstyle

Is clearly fanmade

[long field]

ok

thanks

but it does fit with the artstyle to me

and nicky's house has to be green and smaller layout tho

[civic totem]

Well you don't understand the game's artstyle then

[long field]

i mean not blue tho

i do

but its how i like things

[night vigil]

Here's the original post

[long field]

yeah ik

i found this onreddit

[smoky haven]

thats actually kinda cute !

[grim lark]

Thats really neat

[long field]

YEAH

ITS CUTE

wait

whed u find this

[smoky haven]

i just made that becausae they gave me an idea

[granite junco]

That looks so cool

it would be interesting to see Nicky house though to see how it currently looks

[long field]

yeah

would the layout be the same as theo's in hn3?

and colour of the house?

and the state of the house?

[granite junco]

I think it could be like act 3 where the green wood is ruined or maybe it’s painted back to normal

[untold grotto]

the house probably would be destroyed or something

[long field]

hm

nah

[untold grotto]

why

the house was already damaged in 2017, and there should be atleast 2 storms (2020 and 2024) after that

[granite junco]

Being able to explore it and climb it destroyed would be cool

like the other buildings in HN3

I like how pre alpha had character quests tho I hope we see more of that

[long field]

hm ok

fair

u think these 2 look same nicky's house

i mean it is

but differen hn games tho

[granite junco]

yeah I think the creator got it very close

I like the small changes like the yellow door and the roof is slightly different

[long field]

the white lines of wood near the yellow door

hm

the window design is different

the roof is taller

its blue

wait no

in act 1, act 2, act 3 nicky's house was cyan colour

hn2 alphas was dark blue

hn2 beta and full game was green

and in hn3 its light blue

well its modded so yeah

[pine marlin]

I mean hn3 he take place after act 3 and during act 3 Nicky came back maybe this is his house but it is renovated Maybe you will say about the different location but that is how the game is and I hope this time they don’t change the map and

[long field]

i love this hn3 final map

no other map tho..

[lavish ravine]

This is real or fake because it looks like a hiden teaser

[pine marlin]

Me too

[long field]

fake

its from reddit

someone made this in reddit

infact

i found this aswell in reddit

[pine marlin]

Its looks so good

[long field]

yeah

theres more

[civic totem]

I think he left the town

[long field]

who left the town?

[civic totem]

...

[lavish ravine]

It looks BEUTIFULL ngl

[long field]

yeah

[untold grotto]

holy flood

[long field]

the roof is weird

[pine marlin]

This particular picture makes me feel this really official from the game

[civic totem]

It's not difficult for you to figure out

[long field]

and the small little chimney thingy

really bro?

varx?

[civic totem]

Nicky

[long field]

ok

good

[bold siren]

Ohhhh, that's so damn cool

[long field]

yeah

[pine marlin]

I don't think so bec at the end we saw him moving into his old house

[long field]

yup correct

[limpid pewter]

He probably went back to big city

[long field]

which big city tho?

[civic totem]

He probably left after that

[long field]

i cant remember

[limpid pewter]

As i dont think he wanted to go back to Raven Brooks

[civic totem]

There's only 1

[long field]

wdym by 1

[limpid pewter]

But he had to

[granite junco]

I wonder if someone will make a mod or fangame based on the remade HN3 neighbor house

[long field]

hm

i wonder what the uptairs layout would look like

since in hn3 pre alphas current layout is odd

like its very weird

like theres a tall huge wall on the kid's bedroom

the tall wall behind the house resembles search and rescue a lil bit

[limpid pewter]

Isn't the house in shambles

[long field]

what is shambles mean

[pine marlin]

I mean, he solved his psychological problems, but he has financial problems, so he can't go back to the city

[long field]

i never seen that word

[limpid pewter]

Ruined

Destroyed

[long field]

ok

thanks

[limpid pewter]

Or damaged

[long field]

hm

wait

lemme send screenshots

[civic totem]

The town is literally destroyed, why would he stay?

[long field]

oh yeah

well

he could live in other houses that arent destroyed innit

ok lemme send the screenshots of what part of mr peterson's house uptairs im talkin abt

[pine marlin]

Idk but it still has residents.

[jade night]

Is this ai lol

[civic totem]

Probably

[granite junco]

fan mod

[long field]

wait

[smoky haven]

hello im your neighbor

[long field]

here

thats the back huge wall im talkin abt

the backside of theo's house

[limpid pewter]

I think thats just a issue with the model

[civic totem]

It's unfinished

[long field]

check upstairs

ok

and what about this

[smoky haven]

💜 secret guest

[long field]

i believe this is actually the act 1 house

bc of how the roof goes down

[limpid pewter]

It is

[long field]

to make into like a triangular shape

[granite junco]

where is this?

[long field]

hn3 mr peterson's house

[smoky haven]

underneath the post office ^^

[granite junco]

oh I didn’t even know that was there cool

[smoky haven]

i dont think a lot of did i found it today

[long field]

and explain this guys

[smoky haven]

it scared the soul out of me because i did NOT expect it

[granite junco]

I miss that giant tunnel in prototype 3 or 2 residents used to take to get form the park to the town huge hecking tunnel

[long field]

here guys

the doorway in hn3 theo's house uptairs

[granite junco]

huh that’s strange

[smoky haven]

its still there but walled off i accidentally clipped into it

[long field]

yeah

and i found this

this huge wall in the backside

[smoky haven]

😭 pretty sure it seems big because half of the roof is missing

[long field]

yeah

dont worry

theres more

no wait

[granite junco]

kind of gives off liminal space vibes

[long field]

the kid's bedroom wall is taller than the rest of the floor

heres a clear view

see?

the wall is taller

where that huge brown ladder is

so u walk into

[granite junco]

Ah I see wym

[long field]

yeah

so uh

before this house got burnt by fire and destroyed in 2 storms, there was a happy family of theodore, so where would the kid's bedroom doorway outline be at?

would there be a staircase to walk up into the kid's beroom?

[granite junco]

yeah there must have been a new staircase different

It’s usually never that high

[granite junco]

Peterson can never catch a break

[untold grotto]

the peterson house is not destroyed by the storm

[long field]

oh ok

my bad

[untold grotto]

aaron burned it

[long field]

how

[untold grotto]

no idea

but alex have said "this product will reveal why and how the house burned" before h&s launch

[raven pilot]

fire

[raven pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-bryan-cranston-breaking-bad-sigma-patrick-bateman-gif-27270478

[long field]

no way aaron peterson would burn this much of the house

and no way aaron peterson would burn this much of the roof

[untold grotto]

fire is something that spreads

i dont understand your point

[raven pilot]

in act 3, this house is in even worse condition

[long field]

yes well know that

but thanks for mentioning it anyways

[near hawk]

Yeah that and also something about the police too

[astral plinth]

wow I missed a lot

[long field]

hi guys

im back

sorry if didnt char or anything

i had a quran class

anyways

what do u wanna talk about?

[ionic bay]

Hopefully the new vegetation will be finished and shared soon

[long field]

u mean those trees, grass and bushes?

[ionic bay]

Yep

[long field]

ok nice!

[thorn wraith]

Will the npcs be able to block doors and windows by doing things like using planks? Like how the neighbor could block windows using planks if the were broken repeatedly.

[ionic bay]

It would be great if the tree had leaves

[civic totem]

That's called foliage

[civic totem]

Definitely

[long field]

YEA

[civic totem]

I mean, Nikita took this screenshot in a place where no trees are visible, so there's a non-zero chance we might get new trees in the next build (hopium) (Credits to Izzabella fof pointing this out btw)

[crude ravine]

yeah probably we'll see new foliage in next build

not only trees

[civic totem]

True yeah

[long field]

yo varx

what video r u gonna make next

i swear u r varx 0 right?

[limpid pewter]

And we are also most likely getting new item models and new items in general

Like drills

[crude ravine]

yep like drills and binoculars

[limpid pewter]

Yeah

Hopefully they add the binocular effect

[long field]

mhm

[crude ravine]

i hope too

[long field]

whats a binocular effect

[long field]

ohhh ok

hn2 also didnt have that

hn1 did

[crude ravine]

hn2 also not has binoculars

[long field]

it does

hn2 alphas did

[crude ravine]

in alphas there is a effect

[long field]

which effect

[crude ravine]

.

[long field]

ho yeah

the binocular effect

im so smart

right guys?

guys?....

whed u guys go

ah ok

[limpid pewter]

Back

[rapid rose]

how do i get ghost mode in alpha

[long field]

in hn3 pre alpha??

[limpid pewter]

Yep

[long field]

ok

[rapid rose]

yep

[long field]

atleast someone agrees

[limpid pewter]

You cant

Unless you use uet

[near hawk]

Nikita said new foliage is coming but it's not made yet.

[long field]

and maybe essek herif is sittin on this chair laughing at me

that i said im smart

[rapid rose]

like pre alpha like long time ago

[long field]

bro im smart

[crude ravine]

nope

[long field]

im not dumb right?

[civic totem]

Oh ok

[long field]

ok ok guys

forget ut

anyways

guys

[near hawk]

#hn3-pre-alpha-chat message

[long field]

remember hn2 alphas

[limpid pewter]

Yes

[long field]

is this mr peterson's house?

[limpid pewter]

?

[civic totem]

👍

[near hawk]

↑

[limpid pewter]

Sorta

But its not real

[long field]

yes ik

but

[civic totem]

Yes I am

[limpid pewter]

It's in quentins head

[long field]

ik ik bro

but

was this mr peterson's house

im askin u guys

[limpid pewter]

But yeah that is technically mr Peterstons house

[civic totem]

👍

[near hawk]

Yes it was

[long field]

bc im not sure if thats his house or not

[near hawk]

Obviously it is

[long field]

bc the house has differerent ineterior

different roof

and theres a extension

[near hawk]

It has a different interior every time

[limpid pewter]

It's because its in the outskirts of quentins head

[long field]

including a massive hole in the roof

[limpid pewter]

That's why its so wacky

[long field]

wdym wacky

hn2 alpha house?

[limpid pewter]

Yes

[long field]

hm

hn2 alphas remain a mystery

yo varx 0

[limpid pewter]

Pretty sure historian sells the piano

[long field]

can u call michael afton for me pls if hes online?

[limpid pewter]

If I am remembering right

[long field]

i wanna ask him smt

[limpid pewter]

Oh wait wrong note

[long field]

bruh

bro said wrong note ofc

bruh'

BRUHHHHH

[limpid pewter]

U am thinking of that one with the lever crank note

[long field]

level crank bridge thingy that leads to the museum in hn3?

[near hawk]

Where was that note again

[limpid pewter]

Probably theatre employees as piano in theatre

[long field]

i forgot the not sorry lil bro

(joke)

anyways

what u guy actually talkin abt?

[limpid pewter]

Piano note

[long field]

for what

for HN?

[limpid pewter]

Hn3

[astral plinth]

i didn’t know there was a piano note

[long field]

same

show me a piano note

[limpid pewter]

Yeah in pre alpha

[long field]

i wanna check it out in YT

plzzzz

[astral plinth]

also apparently there are photos of the vandals as kids but no idea where

[long field]

where

[limpid pewter]

I cant either because I am not on my pc right now

[near hawk]

#hn3-discussion message

[untold grotto]

there is not i believe

[long field]

pinned or pinged??

[astral plinth]

i don’t know sorry

[limpid pewter]

Basven did

[long field]

whos basven?

[limpid pewter]

My bad

[lunar trail]

I don't know if there's like any assumptions we can make on the piano seller since we dont have any information other than that note

[limpid pewter]

I mean basguevenlik

[long field]

oh hi mr apple

cute pfp i see

from which cartoon?

[astral plinth]

where is the note found?

[lunar trail]

It's QBert but blue

[near hawk]

What, do you wanna call that number

[limpid pewter]

Imagine someone actually anwsers

[lunar trail]

Won't stay like that, gonna change it back soon since it was for a bit

[untold grotto]

i actually tried to make something with the number with bunch of friends and ended up with nothing

[long field]

awh

[untold grotto]

i doubt its an arg ish thingy but its still weird to have that note

for whatever reason

[lunar trail]

where even is it in the pre-alpha actually

nvm found it

[untold grotto]

its like in the background houses

yeah these

[lunar trail]

it's on more than one house?

[untold grotto]

yes

[limpid pewter]

Idk why that reminds of the creepy Easter eggs you find in gta games

[lunar trail]

i guess it makes sense since whoever is this is trying to sell the piano

[untold grotto]

it was in prototype 3 too

[lunar trail]

The mysterious Piano Seller

Biggest mystery of HN3

[untold grotto]

big foot

[limpid pewter]

Yes

Hn3 myths and legends

When

[long field]

i quit guys

on hn3 pre alpha

can someone tell me how to be frends with the guest in hn3?

im bored of him catching me and not this stupid jacob

[limpid pewter]

Feed him

[long field]

with what'

[limpid pewter]

Any food

[long field]

r u tapped

u think guest is animal

[wild girder]

Something from Prototype 1 and 2 that I hope becomes more of a thing in later builds are paths in the forest that led to secret areas. Like how in Prototip 1 and 2, there was a hidden path that led to The Forest Dweller's den. I would love for there to be more of that stuff.

[long field]

oh yeah

[limpid pewter]

What

[long field]

yo foliage

nah its joke

my bad bro

apologies

[wild girder]

Yeah?

[limpid pewter]

Its fine

[long field]

remember in hn3 p1

[limpid pewter]

But yeah you can feed him

[long field]

there was the blue forest dweller's house?

[limpid pewter]

Doubts its meant to happen

[long field]

it kinda does look like hn1 alpha 2 mr peterson's house?

[wild girder]

Yea it did.

[long field]

why tho

[limpid pewter]

Coindence

[wild girder]

Not sure if it was intentional or not.

[limpid pewter]

Or just inspired

[long field]

ok

[wild girder]

If it was then I wonder what it could be hinting at.

[civic totem]

It was this

[wild girder]

It's also in proto 2

[civic totem]

Yes I know

[limpid pewter]

Yeah protot 2 had a much larger basement

[long field]

oh yeah

ok

[lunar trail]

i still think that was supposed to be the Peterson House back then

[wild girder]

I wish there was more stuff like that. Finding secret buildings in the dark path. There's not really any of that in proto 3 or pre alpha

[lunar trail]

the shape is very similiar

[long field]

no it wasnt

yes shape is similiar

but its not

and it wasnt

[lunar trail]

okay

[astral plinth]

You can use your torch or the camera to ward off the guest

[long field]

its completely someone else's houisew

how do i grab him

anyways

guys i gtg

bye

[limpid pewter]

Bye

[long field]

my lil bro's gonna play no

[astral plinth]

bye 👋

[long field]

PEACE GUYS

[limpid pewter]

I dont think it means anything

[untold grotto]

what

[limpid pewter]

Well also gtg

Bye

[astral plinth]

see ya

I’m genuinely curious about something. We know more characters are coming, and we know every building will have a purpose. I wonder if in the final game every building will have someone connected to it for one reason or another.

[vocal stag]

Most likely, not every building will have someone living in it. It will just be abandoned houses, but if they were all inhabited, the city would not be semi-abandoned.

[astral plinth]

makes sense

there’s that abandoned building next to the Historian’s house that I’m curious about. The Guest can see you if you enter it, I wonder if it had ties to the cult.

[near hawk]

Hmm...
Could Ernest be the piano seller?

[vocal stag]

Most likely, he sees us there because it's just a dark place and it's located next to the forest.

[cobalt oyster]

hn3 overall feels even more like a fever dream

[rigid jasper]

im sorry what is the piano seller

[vocal stag]

No, he's the owner of the hotel. And the piano seller is currently a resident of one of the abandoned houses.

[astral plinth]

I guess the vibe was meant to be fever dream, especially with what Nikita said in the dev logs

[near hawk]

#hn3-discussion message

[near hawk]

The note is on more houses though

[rigid jasper]

oh

[vocal stag]

Well, then it's just a decoration.

[near hawk]

No Nikita said it's lore related

[vocal stag]

Can you show me this message?

[near hawk]

↑

[eager glade]

Hahanoob

[fast walrus]

Yeah, everything is crooked and kinda ugly yet not painful to look at. I like it.

[vocal stag]

Well on paper there is a smile that look like smile that signed has on his mask. And in cinema there is thing that look like a piano and signed live in cinema so maybe he is seller of piano?

[near hawk]

Achi

[celest plank]

cancelling hn2 for hn3 is good in my opinion

but like they should finish hn2 at one point right

[astral plinth]

i think the piano seller is someone we haven’t met yet

[near hawk]

Yet they probably won't

[celest plank]

i mean i dont even care i wasnt that interested in hn2

[near hawk]

Tehnically we didn't yet meet Ernest...

[celest plank]

but some people were like

[astral plinth]

true

[celest plank]

ohh we've been scammed we paid for the game and now it wont be finished

[astral plinth]

HN2 was sad all round

i really wanted to see the ending

i just hope we found out what happened to Quentin from HN3

[celest plank]

its funny how like hn2 was this mess and then nikita just stepped in and started working on his own hn game

[celest plank]

we probably wont

nikita doesnt know a lot from hn2 and i dont get why they wont tell him the entire lore

[astral plinth]

wait they wob’t tell him?

[vocal stag]

He was probably killed by cultists.

[celest plank]

theyre not refusing to

i think nikita just isnt interested in hn2

[restive oxide]

yea

[astral plinth]

i think originally he was meant to escape if the game was finished

[near hawk]

I doubt they wouldn't

[restive oxide]

not knowing much about something doesn't mean you aren't allowed to know

[celest plank]

ts is such a humiliation

[astral plinth]

oh yeah I don’t blame Nikita, like he said it’s not his game

[celest plank]

ye

i still think knowing hn2 would be healthy though

[vocal stag]

But he need to knew lore of hn2 to like connect it. Because in hn lore there already a lot of things that can't be connected with another one.

[celest plank]

like its canon after all

[restive oxide]

hn2 is good for your health.

[celest plank]

he doesnt have to connect it

[celest plank]

yeah it is

[vocal stag]

Why

[celest plank]

hn3 takes place years after any of the other hn events

and it is essentially its own story

its not a continuation of any other existing stories

[near hawk]

In all fairness there is pictures of older times and such.
So it's not like events from older times don't get explored.

[astral plinth]

i think while it won’t be connected to anything we may get some answers on the cult and the Guest

[vocal stag]

And now we have that every hello neighbor game is breaking lore of another hello neighbor game and its like its different games.

[civic totem]

There's no cult in HN3

[celest plank]

i mean they did say we'll find extra depth if we know the other lore so to some degree it is connected inevitably

its just theyre not focusing on the rest that much

[restive oxide]

yeah
it's in the same universe and timeline, it's just far enough in the future that it doesn't interfere with any of the existing lore

[astral plinth]

how do you know for sure? What about Isaac getting scarificed?

[near hawk]

It does interfere with existing lore though

[astral plinth]

that is a planned event

[restive oxide]

i mean
not really?

[near hawk]

Like gaap is in 1984

When in other games it's later on

[celest plank]

that is some minor tweaks to the lore tho

[civic totem]

#hn3-discussion message

[vocal stag]

By the way you knew that amusement park was destroyed by planet pro company (or something like this) in one of the hn books waking nightmare

[near hawk]

It's not like HN3 doesn't explore history If Raven Brooks

[near hawk]

Not really minor

[astral plinth]

oh I know they’re not the cult but it might be someone else

[near hawk]

Wasn't it like in buried secrets

[restive oxide]

hn3 isn't technically canon until full release

[celest plank]

i dont see anything from hn3 affecting the rest of the franchise that much

[vocal stag]

But in another games it just abandoned

[astral plinth]

I really hated the idea of the vandals being cultists

[vocal stag]

No

[rigid jasper]

books are their own timeline

[restive oxide]

also whats wrong with changing the gaap date to 1984
doesn't affect much

[vocal stag]

And now we have even three timelines wow what a wonderful game

[near hawk]

Nah Nikita said it will stay with the pre alpha story but be more detailed.
And regardless it proves that HN3 being in the future doesn't mean it can't contradict material from the past.

[restive oxide]

the gaap was in fact there around that time angway

[restive oxide]

yes
but
still not canon

[astral plinth]

was that the gaap of 84?!

[restive oxide]

no?

[near hawk]

Lucy Yi is friends with Mya and Maritza in HN2, HE and SN.
She can't if she died before those were at her age

[civic totem]

Well, the difference between the cult in HN2 and AS and the festival in HN3 is that the cult is more of a secret organization that worships a evil Guest while the festival in HN3 is celebrated by the entire town and worships a "god" Guest that brings joy and seemingly stops storms

[restive oxide]

Oh true

well hopefully by the full release of hn3 the date on that is fixed

[rigid jasper]

*at least from hn3

[lunar trail]

tbh the cult probably worships the same Guest aswell, it's just that neither the HN2 or HN3 Guest is actually the Guest from the folklore

But Cult, and the Vandals think it is

[civic totem]

What????

Bruh

[astral plinth]

to be fair, while the whole sacrificing Isaac is still a thing, I believed the forest protectors disbanded due to something Theo did, and with the storms getting worse, they couldn’t get the good luck they used to and left, or got killed.

[vocal stag]

The cult doesn't even know about guest. They were making rituals with that strange machines that make you lucky and somehow give this perk to golden coins. And they were using a guest costume to hide behind town legend about forest protectors.

[lunar trail]

When in reality it's people dressing up as the Folklore Guest

[civic totem]

The Guest that's worshipped in the festival is obviously the Folklore Guest, what are you talking about????

[lunar trail]

Not talking about that

I meant the Vandals sacrificng to Forest Dweller Guest

[civic totem]

Oh

Nvm

[vocal stag]

But there was a traditional about guest festival. But cultist aren't connect with it.

[astral plinth]

i don’t think the vandals are the ones sacrificing Isaac in the final game, they were just placeholders in P3

more likely someone influential with power

[civic totem]

You should've said vandals instead of cult since I used the word "cult" to refer to the HN2/AS cult

[astral plinth]

i use cult to refer to the forest protectors

[lunar trail]

I was talking about the HN2 cult when i said cult

[civic totem]

BRUH

I...

...

[lunar trail]

Varx please read my message

[civic totem]

Ohhhh

I seee

[lunar trail]

I'm talking about the cult, then saying what the vandals did is the same as the cult

[civic totem]

I didn't read it correctly, sorry

[lunar trail]

thinking the fake guest is the actual folklore guest

[astral plinth]

the festival in HN3 is unrelated but could have something to do with the founders of Raven Brooks since there’s that picture in the museum.

[civic totem]

My brain just doesn't work correctly sometimes lol

[lunar trail]

it's okay lol

[astral plinth]

Classic HN, confusing the heck out of everyone.

[civic totem]

Yeah probably

[near hawk]

I mean personally i don't mind If there is a reason for it.

And probably it won't get changed

[smoky haven]

yop HN loovees to do that

[untold grotto]

i heavily doubt that

[near hawk]

Because #hn3-discussion message

[untold grotto]

and yet in the next build (that is there is not isaac) vandals are purposeless

[tawny yoke]

wondering how they will explain the lack of the cult in the third game

because I doubt nikita will add it in because it never was his idea right?

[tall sorrel]

what did I miss...

[lunar trail]

Nothing important

Piano stuff i guess

[near hawk]

I don't think they will any further than the urban legend thing.
That seems like the one-size-fits-all solution for everything.

[untold grotto]

basguvenlik pinged you to talk about the piano note

[tall sorrel]

...I thought this was lore-discussion lol

[lunar trail]

lore truly

[tawny yoke]

yeahh seems like that

[wild girder]

What do you mean by that?

[tall sorrel]

it's been over 20 years since they last confirmably appeared (Hello Neeighbor 2)

[near hawk]

Although i do hope they add some way to deduce the urban legend thing from the gameplay.

[tawny yoke]

but honestly it's still really weird how the tables have turned because the difference between a secret society worshiping an entity and a whole town doing so

[tall sorrel]

and ~7 years since they last speculatively appeared (Reset Day)

[eager glade]

i woud love the cult to be in hn3

[tall sorrel]

that's enough time for them to dissolve

[untold grotto]

i wouldnt

[near hawk]

Bleh

[lunar trail]

It makes sense

[untold grotto]

i actually never liked the cult

[lunar trail]

I would tbh

[eager glade]

frigid dont fit in

[tall sorrel]

I'd love it as an easter egg or smth

[untold grotto]

yeah maybe that but i wouldnt want them to be like main antagonist or something

[lunar trail]

HN2 introducing them and HN3 actually using them would be a great progression for a newcomer

[tawny yoke]

yeahhh but still isn't that like a decent plothole because like the whole town didnt worship it in hn2 I think

[eager glade]

or atleast a hello neighbor game that has the cult

[eager glade]

yessss

[near hawk]

I'm kind of apathethic about them but i'd hate if they're around for HN3.
Them being in reset day bothered me to no end

[tall sorrel]

yeah, acknowledge they existed even if no one by the time of HN3 is a part of it

[lunar trail]

also HN3 has a perfect gameplay concept that'd fit the cult nicefully into

imagine seeing some NPC's gather in secret

[tall sorrel]

and even then that's a mere implication rather then a confirmation

[eager glade]

hn3 also sounds super huge

about the secrets and mysteries

[near hawk]

This would be fine by me though

[tall sorrel]

like finding one of their masks in a tunnel somewhere or something

[tawny yoke]

I mean does it kinda

I think it's like a significant difference

[eager glade]

or statues

[lunar trail]

meh #hn3-discussion message

[untold grotto]

they are not worshipping to same context

[tall sorrel]

I personally want there to be other explanations if possible for most things

[eager glade]

they need to atleast add a catacombs location

id love one

maybe an abandoned catacombs or smth

[tall sorrel]

(I don't like just using the Urban Legend thing to retcon everything for no reason and would prefer to only use it when it's needed)

[untold grotto]

speaking of cult

the tunnels from cinema to gaap gave me cult vibes

lile what did ga mean by that

[tawny yoke]

okay yeah different kind of worshipping makes sense

[eager glade]

same tbf

but its hn3 and felt very tight

so i wasnt sure

[tall sorrel]

yeah
one is basically a holiday
and the other is a cult

[untold grotto]

and yeah, cult is seemingly worshipping to the figure all time while the townspeople is only doing that on leap days

[near hawk]

I doubt Nikita will utilise the cult in any way honestly

[tawny yoke]

yeahh like seeing the same thing from different perspectives

[untold grotto]

the guest in urban legend is also an forest dweller

[tall sorrel]

(which also fits because holidays are corporatized to heck and back irl)

[near hawk]

What exactly do you mean by when it's needed

[quartz canopy]

the slop is seemlingly worshipping to the slop all time while the slopeople are only doing that on slop days

[lunar trail]

I think he'd be more of a traveller, hence the name Guest, implying he's staying in the town as a guest

the legend i mean

[quartz canopy]

Mr. Slop | #1 Slop Fan

[tall sorrel]

I mean that if there's another way to explain it I prefer that (like the EarthPro thing I haven't shared here)
but the date discrepancy stuff I'll take as due to Urban Legend things

[lunar trail]

I dont have tC, i cant change my name...

[quartz canopy]

you dont have slop😹😹😹😹

[lunar trail]

yea slopw

[untold grotto]

like the creature thingy called or welcomed by townspeople

[tall sorrel]

which ALSO fits with the Leap Year theory
the Guest would be a traveler who visits every few years

[lunar trail]

What's the leap year theory

[tall sorrel]

that the festival only occurs on Leap Years

[lunar trail]

ah

[untold grotto]

the festival and storms only happens on leap day

[lunar trail]

would make sense

[untold grotto]

and the storms are getting stronger and stronger

[quartz canopy]

oh my god.

[near hawk]

Tsk tsk tsk notegw

[untold grotto]

2024 storm made town half abandoned

[quartz canopy]

yeah slop roleplay is over dyno pissed me off bye

[untold grotto]

and 2028 storm is going to finish what the previous didnt

[eager glade]

shitdyno look what u done

[lunar trail]

A traveller comes into town in leap years and gives the town good luck if they appreciate him, but if they don't appreciate what they have, it takes it away, bringing bad luck with storms

[civic totem]

Ok but... why is a town-destroying storm coming to Raven Brooks the same time as Alma is arriving?

[lunar trail]

bad luck, probably just coincidence

[untold grotto]

i doubt he was the one bringed storms

probably they made the pact with him because of the storms

[untold grotto]

explains why the weather station is abandoned for a long time

[lunar trail]

Where does the idea of a pact came from

[untold grotto]

the runes

[near hawk]

Maybe the reason Bob was even sent for report 13 was related to leap year or festival?

[lunar trail]

Like any evidence towards that

[tall sorrel]

we see it almost set up (but not quite) on a Leap Day (Feb 29th 2028) in HN3
the festival was cancelled on another Leap Year (1980)
then the GAAP Incident occurred the following Leap Year (1984)
and there's a previous storm that could occur anytime from ~2021-2027 in the timeline due to obviously pre-storm photos in HN3
and 2024 is one of those years and a leap year

[lunar trail]

ah

[tall sorrel]

theory spawned from the Elder Futhark Runes on the Statue Guest

[lunar trail]

What exactly was the runes, do you have an image

[untold grotto]

also explains why town was like that in act 3

storms have gotten stronger and stronger

[quartz canopy]

you guys ever thought about like a subnautica hello neighbor game where one of the leviathans is the guest and he has a big beak?

i think thats a good theory