hn3-discussion

[little onyx]

Starting the final map will make it harder to implement new features and mechanics on the fly

[peak solar]

Neighbor was said to be important, so he's probably in the "Main Loop" they're testing

since only some of the characters so far will be in the pre-alpha

some omitted for later

[night vigil]

This thing they posted a while ago is not nothing I hope. Because it shows the Neighbor walking I think

[thin portal]

I was just going to mention that haha

[night vigil]

🤝

[high brook]

i have a question, is the lore/goal in pre alpha gonna be drastically different from p3?

or is it mostly the same

[civic totem]

Interesting

[thin portal]

#hn3-discussion message

[high brook]

ah

thanks

[thin portal]

you´re welcome

[high brook]

also i wonder how much more optimized pre alpha will be? and maybe different visuals even

[civic totem]

The Pre-Alpha will be at least 1% more optimized than Prototype 3

[peak solar]

The optimization's related to the AI, so removing some of them probably might actually make things a bit more stable

[little onyx]

Knowing that the core story is what's being developed makes me excited, especially for knowing they have it locked in this early and are cutting what isn't required

[severe merlin]

Somewhere around Prototype 2 we made final decision to not use "the language", because we realized we want to use texts as one of the narrative/inforation tools

[lusty dove]

I think even a simpler climb than HN2 would be useful for parkour, and if it's too difficult to do, you could copy the code from HN2.

[severe merlin]

Yes. Different

[thin portal]

hey nikita, I asked this before, but is the time frame of the pre-alpha same as prototype 3, or different?

[severe merlin]

You mean length of the session?

[thin portal]

Yes

[crystal hare]

Hi Nikita. Will the pre-alpha be more optimized than the 3d prototype?

[severe merlin]

We experimenting. It probably going to be shorter that P3. I mean it's still 1.5 days, but time flows a bit faster.

[severe merlin]

Thats the plan

[crystal hare]

yay

[idle narwhal]

Hopefully, that's at least enough time to find out certain things.

[thin portal]

Oh, that's interesting. Thanks for responding.

[high brook]

will pre alpha have the new character models?

like signed new model

[fluid portal]

Are there any internal dev versions or do you release everything?

[high brook]

i think the only one was like early p1 when they were transitioning from rbo to hn3

around the old guest promo era

[eager glade]

Will the goal be about making a festival or different

[high brook]

i hope the escaping goal returns

also i feel like breaking the time loop could make a good ending too

[fluid portal]

That’s the thought, but what about versions like what’s referred to as hn alpha 1.5

[severe merlin]

#hn3-discussion message

[high brook]

yea im pretty sure that WAS early p1 or more like prototype 0.5

[eager glade]

Ohh that's interesting

[high brook]

also that reminds me when are we gonna get to see prototype 0?

[peak solar]

Just to get this out of the way, who's planned to be omitted from the Main Event Loop? (What Pre-Alpha is supposed to be testing)

[spark cargo]

there is this bug in some hello neighbor games where i need to watch a playthrough to do anything cuz the puzzles makes no sense. hope its patched in the new hn3

[severe merlin]

Yes

[severe merlin]

Thats the goal for pre Alpha

[fluid portal]

Do you have an idea for the direction of the final story or are you still exploring?

[peak solar]

Iris was specified, but curious if anyone else was too

[eager glade]

I'm actually really excited to see what goal there'll be

[spiral atlas]

You probably can't answer this, but will we see Peterson in Pre-Alpha?

[eager glade]

Maybe we have to kidnap a child for a ritual heh

[novel peak]

Fine by me.

[thin portal]

Hope there are more finished buildings in pre-alpha, since in prototype 3 they were only like 9 or 13 buildings that were furnished and had stuff.

[high brook]

also i have a question i meant to ask a while ago, is there a reason why hn3 shifted more over to like russian villagey vibes? im assumming its to fit story more

[severe merlin]

Core story is fully figured out.

[peak solar]

finishing that early on makes sense

[spark cargo]

are you guys working with tinybuilds?

[little onyx]

Because raven brooks getting destroyed is the main idea, I assume no matter what goal you are able to achieve each run will end with the town being destroyed. Technically no matter what you do "matters" but thats what makes doing the right thing for the sake of it compelling
I'll hazard a guess that the goals of the game will revolve around bring peace to townsfolk/making them happy, despite the end result of the town being destroyed, thus the story never will never a proper, literal endpoint because you could always play through a new story of what happened that day in raven brooks

[spiral atlas]

Are there any other characters besides Iris you can confirm won't be in Pre-Alpha? Or is just Iris?

[crystal hare]

In what version will you guys make the mayak?

[meager walrus]

beta 1.7.3/j

[atomic forge]

Will the cycle time be increased in the release? Is there a chance that you'll abandon the cycle idea?

[severe merlin]

It's a mix of an american, scandinavian and eastern-european styles. It was always like that (look at early HN1 versions with realistic trees). Now it's just "unfiltered" and more robust.

[severe merlin]

I'd say - we ARE tinyBuild

[high brook]

i wonder when we will get pre alpha

im thinking maybe late this month or next month

unless its like 4 months

[little onyx]

I remember HN picture references on insta from 2018 that look a lot like HN3 does now, Ive always loved the style

[severe merlin]

We want to keep things condensed, so there are no minutes of nothing happening, because players would then ask for fast forward function when they will be waiting for certain events to align.
Game is about loop (not narratively but from gameplay standpoint).
You immerse in the world by exploring “Groundhog Day”. End of timer just resets position of the items, NPCs and the player.
People confused because in P3 it seemed like a game over, when loop ended. We are fixing this in pre-Alpha. So loop is just a natural continuation (like in Outer Wilds, for example).

[meager walrus]

wait

ground hog day?

[little onyx]

While there is no actual time loop of the sort happening, the looping nature of the game isn't part of the narrative or themes of the game?

[severe merlin]

There are qotation marks for a reason, though

[meager walrus]

aaaah

[cunning yacht]

Is the plan to keep the game structured around the collection of items spread across the map, where you must find each part of the festival statue?

[signal geyser]

Nikita, who's left in pre-alpha? I'm worried about Janusz.

[severe merlin]

Short answer is - you absolutely right.
In reality - "kind of". There are certain layers to the meta-structure but I can explain it without spoilers.

[severe merlin]

#hn3-discussion message

[little onyx]

Right, I understand now, I was worried for a second when I read that lol

[spiral atlas]

Will the Vandals function the same as Prototype 3? Or will you be able to befriend them in Pre-Alpha?

[severe merlin]

I think you can befrend them in P3 as well, if Im not mistaken

[atomic forge]

When do you plan to add Mayak?

[spiral atlas]

Can you? I don't think anybody has found out how if that's the case, as you can't give them items in P3.

[little onyx]

I believe I was able to do it once, but they really easily get angry with you again

[spiral atlas]

🤷‍♂️

I was under the impression it was disabled in P3 but if it is possible that would probably have made things a lot easier

[little onyx]

Random long-shot question: Have you ever read the novel Umineko? Very similar themes/narrative setup that HN3 seems to have right now, fairly niche though

[pseudo spoke]

Yeah you can't give them items and I even tried dropping things in front of them and still nothing.
Pretty sure it might somehow be bugged if Nikita says it should be possible.
Now I'm wondering if giving items to the Guest and befriending him is also unintentional

[gentle carbon]

tbh my main complaint with the prototype was just the townsfolk, in that I didn't realize you could befriend them or that they really did anything

to be fair I wasn't paying much attention because I was rushing

to get ahead of the storm

[cunning yacht]

Great question, I hope grandeturisto will answer this as I have also read Umineko, and have since been wondering the same thing.

[high brook]

i wonder if guest will get new animations in pre alpha

since his current ones look like left overs from early hn3 era guest

[severe merlin]

I haven’t. Should I?

[wild girder]

Will there be a way to view a character's personality traits and our current friendship status with them in the future? Like something in the main menu or something like that?

[celest ravine]

God is here!!!

Will more characters be added to the game?

[severe merlin]

Not exactly.

[severe merlin]

[wild girder]

Oh. Okay then, thanks for answering.

[celest ravine]

Nikita can i send you a drawing i made inspired by your artstyle?

[severe merlin]

Thank you for feedback! This channel is for conversations, though 🙂

[severe merlin]

Sure!

[novel peak]

i will send it to the feedback channel.

[little onyx]

I would recommend it to anyone, but with the warning that it's an extremely long japanese visual novel, so if you aren't into that sort of thing it would be a really hard read and I would say not to try it
It does have fan translations in Russian and English/other languages, so it is accessible in that sense

[novel peak]

We should have a painting with this image in our apartment.

[celest ravine]

Thank you very much

[dry gate]

This is amazing ❤️💪👍

[celest ravine]

I think Nikita will enjoy this👀

[celest ravine]

Thx

[dry gate]

@celest ravine np 🙂

[severe merlin]

Beautiful!!!

[celest ravine]

Thank you very much god

I really appreciate that

[trim trout]

Can I?

[novel peak]

The real question is can we have the fanarts in the game?

[severe merlin]

Of course

[trim trout]

ok

[molten basin]

hey Nikita mind if i ask something?

[severe merlin]

You just did

[sand flare]

Will the enviorment be upgraded in pre alpha 🤔 or even slightly improved? It's already beautiful

[storm cave]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[molten basin]

okey

[storm cave]

Literally this bro:

[obtuse hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-explosion-gif-24686375

[molten basin]

no just, would by any chance you would use some of the older models what would fit in the HN3 game? like old Vandal from HG that would fit, idk just wanted know

[wild girder]

Will there be a cutscene of the town being destroyed by the storm in the future? Or even potentially the town slowly getting flooded in real time kinda like in Iron Lung.

[sand flare]

Fahhhh

[storm cave]

Bru

[molten basin]

are you kidding me?

[gentle carbon]

smite it

[trim trout]

I drew this in a couple minutes when I was watching the Super Bowl

[wild girder]

For example, when it starts to rain, water from the rain slowly raises up, flooding the town, I'm not sure how possible that will be but it would be cool.

[sand flare]

With ue5.6 it sure is possible but I don't know if they want to add that as a feature

It would tank performance

[molten basin]

like its possible

[wild girder]

Well, I just hope we get some sort of cutscene or something of the storm destroying the town, it would just be really cool to watch.

Real time or not

[sand flare]

They probably will make a cutcene only if that stays as the goal of beating the game before the storm comes

[eager glade]

I know you probably won't tell us this but can you give us a small thing you'll explain in the next devlog?

[blissful river]

That would be cool.

[sand flare]

But it's pre alpha so they probably won't but they might idk I don't work there

[eager glade]

Yeah I think they'll make a release video when pre alpha comes out though not a devlog it's just gonna be like prototype 2

[sand flare]

Mabye✌️

How are there 9000 people online and it's this quiet 😭 ✌️

[eager glade]

Well most of em are either cartoon fans or they are in different fandoms

[haughty tide]

Yeah but it doesn't work for some reason. I don't know it's a bug or you just need to give them some special items.

[spiral atlas]

I wonder how Nikita feels about returning characters outside of the Guest and Theodore? Like Nicky for example. I know some people liked the idea but I wonder what Nikita's stance on it is.

Personally I'm fine with a few returning characters but I also love the idea of an almost entirely original cast. So I'm mixed.

[delicate sigil]

I think atleast Nicky's house will show up eventually

[spiral atlas]

Maybe.

[severe merlin]

I look at the game from a perspective of its story, rather than trying to find a way to integrate previous characters for the sake of fan-service. I don’t want it to be forced. Let’s see what future holds 🙂

[spiral atlas]

That makes sense. Thanks for answering!

[wild girder]

If characters like Nicky and Quentin don't return. Would you ever draw them in the HN3 style anyway just to see how they would look?

[primal wedge]

adriana grandeturisto the pre-alpha footage is eral or fake?

[spiral atlas]

He sent it himself so it's real

[primal wedge]

proof?

[spiral atlas]

#hn3-discussion message

[finite carbon]

I respect that, I’m glad Eerie Guest isn’t going to force in characters just for fan service, I’m glad the characters will have a reason to be in the story and not just be characters for the sake of expanding the roster.

[peak solar]

Technically 3 as we know it was made because RBO wasn't possible to pull off if I remember right?

but the team does care about this incarnation of HN3

[storm crown]

#media message

What is this

[wild girder]

It was HN3 from the start. RBO was just a separate multi-player aspect of it but because it would've taken too long, they couldn't do it.

[peak solar]

Well yeah

I was referring to this incarnation of HN3

as a singleplayer game

even though they changed directions, they definitely still care about how it's made and where it's going

[lethal estuary]

If the texts are going to be very important, are you planning on having translations in the game? so that players who don't understand English can understand the story.

[restive oxide]

most likely

[mighty orchid]

I’m going to let the town flood every time so I can assume the role of Peterson from that one novel where he wanted to do that

[dark bison]

I wanna add a bear trap to this so I can scare Signed.

well, no bear trap.
Out of curiosity, what is the bar for?

Covered is my archenemy.

[finite carbon]

What happened to the lawn-o-tron?!

The lawn-o-torn was such a great idea! It allowed for homes to still feel risky to sneak into whilst the home owners were away. It complimented the cameras perfectly too!

They need to bring it back!

[fair oriole]

I'd prefer the lawn-o-tron over the cameras/gates we currently have

[finite carbon]

I think they both should stay, It allows for a major risky feeling when sneaking around the house and they perfectly complement each other.

[fair oriole]

Well if they stay, I hope they'd atleast get tweaked, because there's so many of them. It makes moving around in a location really tedious (museum for example)

[restive oxide]

it was missing in one build man chillax

[blissful river]

The insides in P3 felt so small

Like it wasn’t really fun to explore some of the houses because of all the traps and blocked doors.

And tight rooms.

Idk I just hope they can improve that a bit.

[finite carbon]

It best to have tighter rooms because it will benefit the stealth gameplay and tension, But I agree that the houses lacked a bit in exploration sometimes, Iris’ and Jacob’s houses are the main example’s for the lack of fun exploration, However the Cinema and Museum does a good job at exploration but it does have lots of room for improvement, As for the traps I feel like it was pretty balanced but very easy to take down traps. It would be cool if the AI’s could fix traps and turn on the security switches.

[blissful river]

Yeah I agree, but most of the houses felt empty as well.

[finite carbon]

I’m just concerned that’s all. They might be just working on it for future builds since prototype 3 wasn’t designed with stealth in mind but we don’t really know if the
lawn-o-tron will return.

[finite carbon]

The empty homes are because they don’t have any gameplay purposes yet.

[blissful river]

I’m not talking about the prop empty ones, I mean when I played the game most of the houses that HAD props had no characters inside, just didn’t feel like you were sneaking into the house and more just running around, that’s all.

I’m not saying the characters don’t go inside, just they don’t go inside a lot and the houses felt empty of life at some points.

[finite carbon]

Oh

Understood

[blissful river]

I was just saying, I hope they can possibly improve that as development continues, and I’m sure they will.

[restive oxide]

yeah all the characters were off doing something else

[blissful river]

Yeah

[finite carbon]

I feel like that’s primarily because of the absence of lawn-o-trons. That’s why
lawn-o-trons are important, It allows for the homes to still feel risky to sneak into whilst allowing the AI’s to socialize.

[restive oxide]

i imagine adding pets and people that prefer staying at home would help this

[finite carbon]

That would be epic.

[restive oxide]

i believe Nikita said pets were being debated

lemme see if i can find the message

[finite carbon]

Really! That’s awesome!

[restive oxide]

nah I can't find it

the most i could find was him saying "it's too early to tell"

[earnest cape]

Man this is sick I loved HN2 for its gadgets and I’m glad to see something similar again.

I hope and pray it returns 🙏

[chrome sun]

By the way is signeds sweat shirt dark green or black? I can't tell because of lighting of the finalized version

[earnest cape]

It’s black but covered in dirt.

[blissful river]

One of the best HN2 features.

The climbing

I assume is what your talking about

[earnest cape]

I feel like if they don’t bring it back it’s going to be empty. Games don’t usually get rid of big innovations in their sequels. Though of course it matters if it fits and work for HN3. I hope climbing returns and things like stumbling as well.

[blissful river]

yeah

[earnest cape]

As in empty I mean in movement.

[blissful river]

I really think a lot of people would agree that it just improves your experience. No one really likes stacking objects to get onto ledges and things of that nature.

At least if it’s something that you “could” easily climb over.

Even if they do something a little bit less giving as HN2, still think it would do some good

[earnest cape]

It would also make traversing the game a lot better and feel more immersive as the player. They could also try to implement climbing for the characters to give them an edge.

[blissful river]

Exactly.

[earnest cape]

Also I think they should allow characters to be able to go through windows as well.

[blissful river]

https://tenor.com/view/perfetto-yes-gif-26163077

[earnest cape]

And crouch.

[gentle carbon]

as long as it doesn't become as wonky as it was in HN1

"hey Im getting kinda tired, im going to head to bed" (smashed entire body through window)

[earnest cape]

Yeah they should keep it grounded and they should only really use it for chases. Wouldn’t make sense for homeowners to be jumping through their windows to get to places unless they are chasing an intruder.

[gentle carbon]

tbh even when chasing an intruder its a little crazy

but these people are very determined

unlike me

im not jumping through a window

[earnest cape]

Average Raven Brooks citizen.

I mean if I was living in a town where all sorts of weird and crazy stuff happens and people just break into my home I’m gonna be a lot more determined to protect my property and myself.

[brave thunder]

they already can

[earnest cape]

They can?

I never noticed.

I remember seeing it in Devlog 3 but never in game.

[brave thunder]

they do crouch in prototype 3

they often get stuck tho

[magic flume]

i bet prototype 4 comes out march or april

[low gate]

Im gonna film this for my movie.. groundhog day the sequel dequel

[magic flume]

either that or they start alpha testing

cause they are getting closer to a finalised game with the models now

[blissful river]

Actually it’s the pre-alpha next.

[magic flume]

holy peak

im genuinley so excited for hn3

imma buy it the second it goes on sale and im still dying for the movie 🙏

barely anyone i know actually knows what hn is at it shocks me cause it is peak beyond peak

[mighty orchid]

I’m guessing because it’s not popular anymore

[magic flume]

it's still popular and has actually gained popularity again due to the modding world inside it

[mighty orchid]

I meant compared to when it was in its peak popularity way back in hn1 alphas. It’s not like that anymore but it’s not dead either

[brave thunder]

<@&1162799252192379000>

[earnest cape]

https://tenor.com/view/hat-woody-you-are-my-woody-hello-neighbor-neighbor-gif-17776747774670551097

[neon ether]

Will the pre-alpha fix the moments when the FPS drops from a stable 50-60 to 10?

[thick ferry]

The playtest is over

[random shell]

I think the main reason I couldn’t beat it was because that was so dark once it was night I couldn’t see where I was going in the amusement park area

[static sedge]

It was so lovely that Nikita actually spent his time to answer all your questions

anyway still hyped up for hn3

ive seen some outstanding models

[severe merlin]

Btw, there is a gamma setting, that allows you to find correct light exposure. We will add this as a mandatory setting when the game starts for the first time (adjust until barely visible-thingy). So people will know if their brightness is correct.

[oblique parcel]

Hey Nikita i just wanted to ask if the current music tracks is mean’t to stay up Until full release?

[severe merlin]

Some yes, some not

[oblique parcel]

I hope future builds leans a bit more towards Eerieness i feel like prototype 3 almost leaned too much into the coziness at times

If that makes sense?

Really hope the forest Ambience from prototype 1 and 2 comes back or a new version of it

[cunning yacht]

tbh when i heard about the npc friend stat thingy, it reminded me of one of the mods for the first game when the modding option came out, it reminded me of that one with the coins and you sell and buy items next to the players house if anyone remembers that

[spiral spear]

It's unlikely that Nikita is here now, but I became interested to know how he feels about the plot of hn2 since he didn't write it and whether he even knows it?

[blissful shuttle]

Didn't he work on the alphas? So he probably knows the early plot

[opaque summit]

he was involved less and less during alpha 2 im pretty sure

[proud glade]

When is the pre-alpha?

[spiral spear]

Well, the plot was reworked for the release, but he didn't work on the release.

[proud glade]

Will the parkour be changed? It feels stupid that you can jump off any height and take no fall damage. You could bring in the umbrellas to glide and save you from a fall

[severe merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/potentially-in-the-future-richard-parliament-top-hat-gaming-man-it-might-happen-in-the-future-its-possible-gif-21181520

[lucid crescent]

When i played the video it's a black screen

[narrow gust]

Discord does that sometimes

[wary kite]

What story?

[blissful shuttle]

That's why i said he probably knows early plot

Istg it takes less than 5 seconds to read what i said

[spiral spear]

It's unlikely he even knows it a little, since it was completely rewritten, especially since Nikita himself says he knows nothing about hn2

[blissful shuttle]

Just to clarify we're both talking about the alphas of hn2 correct?

Like Alpha 1 and Alpha 1.5 of hn2

[spiral spear]

I'm talking about the release

[near meadow]

Was being able to befriend the guest in prototype 3 intentional? It became chill with me whrn I gave it food while it was dragging me.

Will that feature be kept?

And also another question, would the definitive storyline, of hello neighbor 3’s timeline, be this:

Hide and seek-> hello neighbor -> hello neighbor 3?

As in, this is YOUR definitive storyline?

I know hn2 storyline and all the books are canon….but….in a weird way.

But You don’t know hn2’s story. So in that case, I shouldn’t consider it part of the storyline YOU are writing correct?

[near hawk]

Probably, being able to befriend NPCs is kinda the main thing. Except the "ever choice is the right one".

[lusty dove]

Hi Nikita, I was wondering when all the other models (objects, furniture) are going to get a full finished model

[stone elk]

do we know what the final style for things look like I feel it may be toward the direction that for example the wrench and the rc car if that isnt just a placeholder asset.

[blissful shuttle]

Then why did u reply to my message...

[blissful shuttle]

I clearly said alphas

And you started yapping about full release

[spiral spear]

I thought you were also talking about the release

[empty shell]

The soundtracks are amazing you guys did an awesome job!!

[gleaming acorn]

probably before hn3 fullgame

[gleaming acorn]

we have leaks of finished character models (and two who aren't leaks like neighbor and forest dweller), if that helps
(you can see in #work-in-progress)
we've also seen paint-overs of screenshots meant to show what the game could look like, sent by grandeturisto

[blissful zinc]

when they're done

[nimble walrus]

Would be cool to find some tracks as cassettes around the map and you would be able to play them inside your place or around the map.

[neon ether]

What if each character in xn3 reflects Nikita's inner feelings?

[nimble walrus]

Or something better actually...
• Find boombox cassette player
• Find cassettes around the map
And you can use it as distraction and to make it not overused, maybe make like limit on how much cassettes are around the map and how long can it play before the cassette breaks.

[nimble walrus]

One of the cassettes would be stealing from Signed, by sneaking behind him and stealing the cassette, since he listen's to music while walking and whistling.

[torn relic]

If Nicky returns in Hello Neighbor 3
What will he look like?

[high brook]

I hope we get new tracks in pre alpha

[nimble walrus]

Same. They sound so good

[near hawk]

Orange.

[torn relic]

Ah yes

🍊

We have confirmed that Nicky will return in Hello Neighbor 3

As an

🍊

[high brook]

It just me or do some of the p3 settings not work

Like the foliage lowerer doesn’t do anything

It just removes some of it

The p1 one worked way better

[torn relic]

#off-topic

[foggy ginkgo]

Hello chat

@torn relic u are on the belugaGANG

[torn relic]

whats that

[chrome sun]

When are we getting a new finalized character?

[earnest cape]

Probably some time later this week or next week.

[chrome sun]

Ok

[high brook]

I hope we get to see Jacob’s finalized model

[earnest cape]

We got our last one literally 5 days ago not even a week ago yet.

[chrome sun]

I really hope it Iris 🤞

[opaque summit]

isnt it finished in p3?

[high brook]

Sort of

The model was just edited slightly

I meant I wanna see the full remaster

[civic totem]

HN3 PA tomorrow CONFIRMED 🔥

[high brook]

I feel like Jacob is gonna be the new pre alpha man and when it gets changed people are gonna want the old player back

I just noticed that time goes a faster in the pre alpha clip

[chrome sun]

Is that actually tomorrow?

[civic totem]

No

[finite carbon]

Definitely not

I’m curious with what new features will be added into the pre alpha.

The character model upgrades and RC car is nice, Theodore will most likely be showing up (and the AI is definitely being improved) but I’m curious with what else they’ll be adding.

[chrome sun]

The Neighbor

[finite carbon]

That’s a guaranteed

[chrome sun]

Definitely the one character I waiting to be a character NPC

[winged jungle]

I hope the neighbor's actually a walking npc, rather than a ending

[haughty tide]

i hope that they add the neighbor in the pre alpha. it wouldn't be fair to add him in the pre alpha since we have seen him in the p3 ending.

[winged jungle]

Like it takes hours js to see the neighbor

For a 10 sec clip

[finite carbon]

Worst timeline: The Neighbor only appears in cutscenes just like the Guest on the launch of HN2.

lol

[winged jungle]

Yea

[haughty tide]

that would be the worst timeline to be imagined...

[winged jungle]

That would litteraly ruin everything

[haughty tide]

yeah it literally would...

[winged jungle]

I wish hn3 was more story related then this

[haughty tide]

what do you mean by that?

[winged jungle]

Like hn3 is more focused on a mysterious town, like a loop, rather than a lore/story game

[winged jungle]

Sandbox*

[untold grotto]

its still a lore game

[haughty tide]

i'm sure that we will see story and lore in the full game. it's only just the prototype stage.

[untold grotto]

p3 already had pretty much lore

[winged jungle]

I hope

[haughty tide]

i'm sure there will be some story and lore in the full game.

hm. i still wonder of how the neighbor is gonna work in hn3?

[untold grotto]

why are we acting like there isnt already

[haughty tide]

idk.

[bronze phoenix]

when next version comes out

[winged jungle]

We don't know

[near hawk]

Unknown.

[untold grotto]

when its done

[winged jungle]

😭

[near hawk]

When else really.

[winged jungle]

Obviously tomorrow

Jk

[mighty orchid]

Well not yesterday or before that so we can rule out the past as a potential release date

[random shell]

It’s probably more annoying people complaining about the TV show getting the hype taken away from the game

The last YT post they made about the Historian is full of “when season three?” rather than the game.

[haughty tide]

i guess people are just more interested of the tv show than the the game.

[mighty orchid]

Anything they post about even like a completely different game theres always at least two comments talking about hello neighbor

[haughty tide]

i guess that's one thing that tinybuild is completely known for.

[random shell]

They liked my comment too about it

[chrome sun]

Will the Neighbor use Beartraps in Hello Neighbor 3?

[near hawk]

I wish there'd be only two

[primal wedge]

*TooniNoodle679trap's

[chrome sun]

Lol

[finite carbon]

Hopefully, Bear traps are an iconic tool that Theodore uses.

[opaque summit]

theyre unused in p2 so probably

[finite carbon]

Lawn-o-trons are used in P2, Bear traps and lawn-o-trons are not the same.

[opaque summit]

like i said, theyre unused

[finite carbon]

Yep 👍

I hope that they manage to make the stealth gameplay fun and enjoyable.

Traps really add tension and fun obstacles to the stealth sections in Hello Neighbor.

[chrome sun]

Him setting cameras can be cool too

[finite carbon]

Yessssss! That would be so peak! It could be like a polished up version of the HN1 gameplay.

[opaque summit]

if he gets cameras he should probably get a limit of them

[ancient light]

bro am i the only one whos game crashes whenever i join hello neighbor alpha 4 after the first cutscene

[chrome sun]

I'm just curious where he would live in the map

[finite carbon]

At this point it’s either the Mayak or a bunker.

[turbid shard]

Hello all

[finite carbon]

Fake Neighbor is genuinely the creepiest character in the franchise imo

[near hawk]

Mith looking really good.

[peak solar]

I wonder how the loop will be seamless?

I'm assuming that instead of returning to the main menu, an end cutscene plays out, something happens, and it instantly fades to the opening/arriving cutscene again

[cunning yacht]

Don't know if you will answer but what do you think about smashbits animation... andy's room

[eager glade]

Andays rouum fram toy stary

[severe merlin]

Kind of. Some visual feedback and just starts immediately. No cutscene.

[gentle carbon]

classic

[loud karma]

hope we get some info regarding the player concept art later this month

[lucid crescent]

Will see any robots from the neighbor

[turbid shard]

guys look

[cunning yacht]

Did you watched the smashbits animation? (Pls say yes or no)

[sonic birch]

shut up

[low gate]

🦣

[low gate]

Me when i lie

[slim radish]

groundhog downhog the threequel

[mortal crater]

Is ther a prototype 4 coming out?

[lucid crescent]

no

Pre-Alpha

[mortal crater]

Oh

[finite carbon]

There is no prototype 4

[tall pulsar]

the 3rd playtest is unavailable now....

[earnest cape]

I think a lot of people glossed over how much better the lighting and graphics are in the pre-alpha I mean this looks beautiful as a game to play.

[raven hamlet]

wrong place

I was trying to forward that to a friend

[blissful river]

It will be cool to see the small changes and improvements compared to P3 when the PA releases.

[sterile crane]

Quentin is the Guest. But you can believe me. If you, want.

[glad narwhal]

Harold is the Guest

Obviously

[sterile crane]

Who is Harold? and When is he born? Tomorrow will be a special day.

[glad narwhal]

I AM HAROLD

[sterile crane]

Actually Issac from Hello Neighbor 3 Prototype 3 is actually a secret cultist in Hello, Neighbour! 2.

Could be time travel, Not sure yet. But please be patient because it might be.

[glad narwhal]

It’s actually Mya

[sterile crane]

What? I never have thought about that?

[strong narwhal]

Idk if anyone has mentioned this but I have a theory that the vandals aren’t actually villains. From the way they look and sound, they seem a lot like rebellious teens/young adults more than actual threats. I think they might have some grievances with the townspeople or festival itself and are trying to mess it up out of spite, or maybe they’re just troublemakers trying to give people a hard time/looking for attention.

They can also be taken by the Guest, so I’m inclined to believe they’re not involved with whatever scheme that is. I also think that stealing traffic signs for fashion accessories is a very “young outcast” thing to do

[untold grotto]

theyre making a another ritual

an darker ritual

[random shell]

Don’t they have an HQ saying kidnap Issac

Sacrifice him or what ever

[strong narwhal]

I wouldn’t know I am so terrible at playing this game I definitely haven’t seen all the places and environmental details

If so, that is insanely cool though

[untold grotto]

which involves sacrificing a child

[random shell]

Yes

[untold grotto]

this plotline is probably scrapped tho

[random shell]

The little text that says sacrifice

[strong narwhal]

Oh man I haven’t seen this that’s awesome

[untold grotto]

and the vandals ending implies that

[random shell]

Yess finally got the point

It must be a free for all in raven brooks

[blissful river]

I’m interested to see what the new story will be in the pre-alpha.

[cinder halo]

No it's actually nicky Roth who is the guest in hn3

[glad narwhal]

It’s obviously Diane Peterson

[cinder halo]

Diane is dead

[glad narwhal]

It’s obviously Sonic

[cinder halo]

.

[glad narwhal]

Guest is actually Nikita

[cinder halo]

The guest's groaning is masculine so its nicky roth

[glad narwhal]

It’s actuaLllly MAN inside the Hat

[cinder halo]

It's actually nicky broth

[glad narwhal]

Makes sense actually

The broth family is Guest

[cinder halo]

Yeah

[glad narwhal]

No

[brisk forum]

You're all wrong

[glad narwhal]

It’s Harold

[brisk forum]

Its obvs gonna be Aaron

[glad narwhal]

No

It’s obviously MITH

[brisk forum]

but that's just a myth

[glad narwhal]

So it seems Guest is actually

The friends we made along the way

..

Just me…

ALRIGIIIT..

[brisk forum]

nah you're good

we've all made that same joke every now and then

[glad narwhal]

It’s used so much

lol

[glad narwhal]

Oh god 😂🙏

[eager glade]

eh no

I don't think so

If frankin became the guest then guest in hn3 is franklin and he's groaning like that cuz uknow stuck in the guest for a long while

[oblique parcel]

I don’t Think hn3 guest will be like AS guest

Nikita doesnt even know the identity of hn2 guest which was Said to be AS guest

[eager glade]

we don't really know who guest is in hn2 as well likely they are the same

[cinder halo]

Lol

[eager glade]

we will see in season 3 tho since there's one teaser with purple lighting and it's where franklin died and there's a guest shoe on the left so we will see how it goes

I think he said smth about giving his thoughts about the AS but it wasn't noticed

[glad narwhal]

He doesn’t know if it was noticed. But we know Alex wants to ground AS soo. This can hint at Guest concept and what it could be.

[peak solar]

wait what?

[eager glade]

yeah

[peak solar]

did he say that he'd give his thoughts eventually?

what's the context for that

[eager glade]

I don't think so

Let me find the messag for you guys

I might be misremembering but I'm sure he said smth ab the AS this year

[glad narwhal]

He did but he said he doesn’t know

[oblique parcel]

This is all he Said Michael

[peak solar]

alright, thanks

[eager glade]

doesn't Know What?

[glad narwhal]

If it was take into consideration

[eager glade]

Ohh

[untold grotto]

theres two guest

[glad narwhal]

We don’t know in what specific way tho

[untold grotto]

and the forest dweller is somehow not the real one

[eager glade]

Wait guest and forest dweller are different?

[near hawk]

Never cook 💔

[near hawk]

Yes

[crystal shale]

they are not

[near hawk]

They got different folders

[untold grotto]

theyre

[peak solar]

actually before we get into that

[glad narwhal]

This yea but idk about the pic tho

[peak solar]

what's the context for this filepath?

what build was it found in?

because people can probably easily misunderstand without more info

[spiral atlas]

have you guys considered that there was the guest stuff which in the files was named guest pre prototype 1 but they changed the stuff to be forest dweller as to not spoil the fact it was the guest

[near hawk]

Guest is set to never cook, Forest Dweller is the beak person from HN3

[glad narwhal]

Fake Guest

[near hawk]

The pic is like the main evidence

There are two folders for beaked people, the Guest and the FD

[glad narwhal]

The Never Cook specifically tho?

[glad narwhal]

This yes

[crystal shale]

forest dweller is referred to as the guest a few times in the code
plus the "forest dweller" has been called the guest every single time by nikita

[peak solar]

just so I can know this

was the "do not cook" filepath in Prototype 3?

or was this a build before the proper guest model got implemented?

[untold grotto]

yes afaik

[peak solar]

two possibilities

[untold grotto]

and nikita mentioned there being the guest and the "guest"

[peak solar]

• It's the old Guest Model that Nikita ended up showing off
• Forest Dweller is something else entirely

[glad narwhal]

In quotations for some reason

[untold grotto]

also nikita said you havent seen anything about guest while him being literally in the center of keyart

[spiral atlas]

to me it just seems like they had placeholder stuff for the guest (like his old model) that they set to not be included in the game because it's old and they made the forest dweller file stuff for the new guest to hide the fact it's the guest for prototypes 1 and 2 and then kept rolling with the forest dweller folder in p3 when everything for him was mostly done and already there

basically the guest folder is just old pre new guest stuff

[glad narwhal]

Take Nikita’s Quote in consideration tho

[near hawk]

Oh, and we cannot forget

[crystal shale]

the guest people in town talk about vs the guest you see in the game
like, all the murals and the statues of the "guest" are very clearly different from what the guest actually looks like in the game, so i would assume the guest in the murals and statue are the closest thing to being a "fake guest"

[near hawk]

#hn3-discussion message

[glad narwhal]

That can be part of it in a view, but there could be a fake guest.

[glad narwhal]

This adds onto many stuff that have been discussed too.

[spiral atlas]

guest the idea vs the real guest

[gentle carbon]

Im just thinking about how Nikita doesn't know who/what the HN2 guest is would his decision/decisions for HN3 be able to affect who it is in HN2? or anything else in HN2?

but there is also AS which is more connected with HN2

[oblique parcel]

No i Don’t Think it would affect whatever he was in hn2

That’s to say if they even had a plan for him in that game

[gentle carbon]

so its like books continuity, game continuity with like HN1 and HN2, but HN2 is its own thing too, and show is its own thing really, and the movie

and then HN3

and its all just kinda mixing lore around

because mayak

oh and the spin offs

[near hawk]

They have one for him in AS so probably in HN2 they also worked with something in mind.

[gentle carbon]

maybe if they finished HN2 we would know

(imagine I'm saying this in a really salty and mocking voice)

[near meadow]

But what if that unused “guest” file is just his old blocked out model they forgot to remove?

[earnest cape]

For sure.

[chilly talon]

.

[royal solar]

i really hope they start developing the art style a bit more

and remove the stock assets...

[proud glade]

Nikita will there be any cool movement like in Outer Wilds like being able to travel between locations etc?

[royal solar]

i mean come on the best parts about HN are the visuals and art style and those stock assets are sooo 😭

alsoo the visuals really need fixing nikita

most players will be playing without global illumination and the game shouldnt be designed around it

both screenshots are global illumination off. i think HN 2 really did set the graphical standard in HN because i hope hn 3 over time starts looking more like HN 2 graphically

but also its not really fair comparing a prototype to a released and finished product...

just trying to say that i hope in the future HN 3 wont look that example with global illumination off

[chrome sun]

Good resemblance

[royal solar]

thank you ! i picked two areas that i knew would look similiar for a comparison

[naive basin]

Buddy we not even on pre-alpha 😭

[royal solar]

actually we are MOVING on the pre alpha and i said slowly start developing the art style

which is not that much to ask for

[naive basin]

i do

but were not on it yet are we

[royal solar]

that doesnt matter

like i said ''i really hope they start developing the art style a bit more'' means over time i dont mean RIGHT NOW

and they need to start eventually

[naive basin]

obviously???

they aint s tupid]

😭

[royal solar]

oh who is you...

[naive basin]

?

[royal solar]

anyways....

[naive basin]

no finish

[royal solar]

no need to 🙂‍↕️

[naive basin]

wtv

[royal solar]

anyways like i was saying. i hope they slowlyy start developing the art style slowly since im curious where they will take the forestry and stuff

[naive basin]

[royal solar]

im very curious on how the game will change in terms of that

[naive basin]

are alts permitted in here?

[royal solar]

i really hope it turns a bit more hello neighbor-y

[royal solar]

you have to talk in here for a few minutes and you should get them !

wait

oh sorry

i misread

[naive basin]

😭 what now

[royal solar]

like alt accounts ?

[naive basin]

(asking for a friend cuz I definitely didnt lose my old acc thats currently on this server)

[royal solar]

i think you can reach out to jacky about that ?

she should let u know and stuff

but i think it should be okay if u lost ur old account ?

i mean that is something out of your control

[civic totem]

No

Wait

[royal solar]

but if they lost their old account that is still here then it should be okay no ?

[civic totem]

I mean

I tried using an alt in this server once and it got banned

[open plaza]

hello there 😭

[royal solar]

i think you need to let them know that ur old account is here and u dont have access to it so it doesnt get flagged down

[open plaza]

surelyyy this doesnt get me in trouble

[royal solar]

why would it ?

[open plaza]

anyways hn3 pre alpha hype

[royal solar]

😭 why would that get you into trouble

[open plaza]

who knows

[royal solar]

yes !

[civic totem]

The HN3 Pre-Alpha will release on Feb 27. Source? Trust me bro I just KNOW ok

[open plaza]

in varx we trust

[royal solar]

Nikita's evil twin: Hello ENEMIES 🙃 the pre alpha is cancelled goodbye

[civic totem]

NOOOOO

[open plaza]

i told myself that i wont play until pre-alpha

ig that time's coming

[royal solar]

tbh from what we have seen

pre alpha is just prototype 3 but with a funny car and no iris

[open plaza]

WYM NO IRIS

[royal solar]

she... isnt present anymore in the upcoming versions

nikita said they will add her back maybe if they find a purpose for her

[open plaza]

😭 lit my fav character besides the neighbor

[royal solar]

SAME 💔

[open plaza]

i think i've seen that exact same story before

i wonder where

[royal solar]

hmmmm....

maybe a little beatrix

[open plaza]

hmmm no that doesnt ring a bell

i hardly know er

[royal solar]

well at least we have one good female character that survived the cutting floor and that is gerda

[open plaza]

who

[royal solar]

gerda hello ??

[open plaza]

ah

[royal solar]

this absolute statement piece

[open plaza]

i kinda lowkey forgot abt all the characters in this game

[royal solar]

😔 tbh me too but gerda is like the only one that stands out to me

[open plaza]

oh its... its the 2nd police guy situation all over again isnt it

[royal solar]

😭 dont even remind me AHH

[open plaza]

happens

[royal solar]

tbh i already made up in my head that ''they will be added back later'' means you will NEVER see them again

[open plaza]

i wonder if I should play the game at all

[royal solar]

soo probably goodbye iris you had a good run

[royal solar]

i mean ill give the pre alpha a chance i gave the prototypes one so

i believe its gonna be good but just man without iris will it even be the same game she has been there since the start 💔

[open plaza]

i gave 2 of the prototypes a chance, the 3 felt too confusing to me

a bit too confusing even for a HN game

[royal solar]

its confusing because you have to rush thats why i think they need to scrap that stupid timed idea

😭 security breach didnt work with it thats why they scrapped it for an actual story mode and i think they need to do this here as well

[open plaza]

yes this
and they need to work on environmental storytelling perhaps

[open plaza]

tbh modern day sb doesnt work at all

[civic totem]

Nikita has said they want to make the Pre-Alpha less confusing

[royal solar]

i think what we need to take away from indie game developers is anything timed and wheeping angels

im TIRED

[open plaza]

believe it or not we had a convo about sb b4

😭

[royal solar]

oh... time comes full circle

[open plaza]

i felt dejavu and I had to look it up lol

[open plaza]

i would love it if thats the case

[royal solar]

well i think its appropriate given the fact this game is slowlyyyy going the same direction

timed games do not work

players have different speeds all ur gonna do is stress people out and you do not want that with HN

[open plaza]

unless its fnaf 1-7

[royal solar]

yeah but this is HN aka puzzles the game and now they are making the town one giant puzzle and im telling you its not gonna work if ur gonna time it with a storm

if ur already stressing people out in the prototypes do you not stop and think hmmm this doesnt seem like a good idea

[open plaza]

yes this
it was a bit too confusing and frustrating that you had to redo it all over again and figure something out in the process

for me hn is more about puzzles than all the other aspects

[royal solar]

exactly if i wanted to play life is strange i would i do not want that concept in HN when i have do do stuff over and over again

😭

oh boy signed just exploded the power supply and now i have to redo the entire game because i didnt save and predict this would happen !!!

[civic totem]

Not trying to sound smug or anything, but I'm not THAT surprised Iris got banished to the shadow realm. Why? Because I already expected them to scrap some content

[royal solar]

im already stressing thinking about this

[civic totem]

Maybe not an entire character though...

[open plaza]

not my girl iris 💔

[open plaza]

im already stressing thinking about how this came can become a flop and being timed means going that direction

tbh

[royal solar]

im telling you rn they are gonna realize this way too late and scrap the game and start reworking it months before release 😭

[civic totem]

HN2 vibes

[open plaza]

atp its HN franchise vibe

[royal solar]

i just wish they would actually listen 😭 ive gen only seen negative feedback about the whole timed aspect

[open plaza]

now that I think about it, it happened two times

[civic totem]

Nah I think what will happen is that they'll expand the time limit so much that it'll become trivial and practically won't matter

[fair oriole]

I find it baffling that they always do this kind of stuff.
For example what is an aspect a lot of people liked in HN2 over HN1? The parkour/vaulting system, as it made navigating the game less frustrating.
That's already removed from HN3

[open plaza]

well then whats the point of having it as a feature

or part of the story at that point (storm)

[royal solar]

because they dont listen at all ive noticed they make it seem like they are but they never do

[fair oriole]

Yeah the feedback channels are useless

[royal solar]

people made a point about the HN 2 vaulting system being really good... guess what we are back to the HN 1 parkour system

[open plaza]

we are? they arent adding vaulting?

[royal solar]

people dont like the timed aspect of hn 3 ? guess what they dont care they arent changing it

[royal solar]

yes nikita wants to try HN 1 parkour again

like they didnt get enough hate the first time around 😭

[open plaza]

😭 nikita should know better than that hello

i have so much faith in this game purely because nikita is back at it but I guess thats boutta change

[royal solar]

its like we took 10 steps in the good direction with HN 2 just to take 50 steps back with HN 3

[open plaza]

i mean hn2 wasnt good either
but like
it's definitely better in a bunch of aspects than hn1
worse in some

[royal solar]

i dont get it like how do you see all this feedback that people dont like these choices and you still stick with them is that not how HN 2 became to be

[fair oriole]

First game got heavily critized and is still memed very heavily today.
The second game also got bad ratings.

But guess what, we're doing the exact same formula that didn't work the first 2 times again for our third attempt!

[royal solar]

HN2 was a good step in the right direction. good parkour system. beautitul graphics even if ur device isnt the best like they had that game on

and then u look at HN 3 and the good parkour system is gone and the game looks less then appropriate if u turn off a single setting

[open plaza]

yes
and all the puzzles are great

[open plaza]

i mean
have they 100% confirmed we're going hn1 style? maybe its just not done yet

[sterile crane]

Hello, neighbour! The hello neighbor 3 prototype is a prototypes. I don’t think judge that game right now is a reason

[royal solar]

we are giving feedback

doubt they will listen

[sterile crane]

Okay, 👌

[royal solar]

yes

[open plaza]

ah

its over

game officially a flop

😭

[royal solar]

i dont wanna be overly negative but its kinda hard when nobody is ever listening like people made so many great points about some of the choices and they are still being kept around

the entire concept of HN 3 is too confusing and its not explained properly in game

[open plaza]

!!

[sterile crane]

I think. They are going to and improve the game. Better than hello neighbor 1

[open plaza]

oh you poor soul

[royal solar]

well i mean we wanna believe that but i wanna start seeing actual change

i wanna start seeing them actually listening

i dont want excuses i want actions

[open plaza]

i havent seen them stepping in the right direction (at least for me.) since proto1

[calm radish]

The creator has replied maybe 20 times that they want to work on better direction. He also said that the final product will be long, it's just this build that will be short

I suppose it's a case of people being incapable of moving on from HN2, which is sad, because it will be 4 years old by this point

[royal solar]

its still insanely confusing and the whole timed aspect is only stressing people out

[open plaza]

hell scrap half of the map if it means we get better experience and better storytelling

[royal solar]

and do you REALLY want to stress people out in a HN game ? a game about puzzles ?

[eager glade]

Whats going onnn

Folk

[royal solar]

opinion time

[calm radish]

Please read through my message instead of running your mouth

[sterile crane]

You are stressing about too much change. Okay?

[open plaza]

feedback talk

[royal solar]

no ?

[civic totem]

Well Nikita said the team gained a decent amount of good feedback from the survey but we don't know what exactly the feedback was #hn3-discussion message

[royal solar]

????? why are you getting nasty

[sterile crane]

Hello, Neighbor is about ai.

[calm radish]

Yes

He also said the game would be multiple days longer

[eager glade]

Oh hello person I never seen in 7 months

[open plaza]

i dont want it long, i want it good 😭
and they want to work in better directions. want to.

[royal solar]

nothing to do with what im saying

[calm radish]

A singular build being short is a concern yes but maybe we can get over the fact the game will be slightly shorter than usual

[eager glade]

this seems like a

[open plaza]

hello to you too browny i got my acc restored

[eager glade]

Interesting conversation

[calm radish]

They want to change and are trying to change and are actively listening to feedback and the problem is..?

[open plaza]

i swear every time i come in chat this kinda talk comes out of it

[sterile crane]

You say the game about puzzles and same, but no. Hello neighbor 3 is about a big town and people. Much different

[open plaza]

every damn time

[eager glade]

I noticed cuz of ur name before u changed it this happened to so many people they're getting banned in this server stay safe tho

[royal solar]

thats all fine im talking about how i dont like the time aspect of the game and the game being too confusing. if the game is too confusing to people you cannot time it

thats how you create frustration and negative steam reviews

[open plaza]

actively listening to feedback where? they've come back to hn1 platforming after people HATED massively on it
up to the point of it being (one of the) main complaint(s) of hn1

[calm radish]

They're fixing both of those issues

[sterile crane]

Please define that time aspect?

[calm radish]

Read through any of Nikita's messages

[open plaza]

im tryin

[open plaza]

read thru mine?

[royal solar]

HN 3 is timed ??? you only get a certain amount of time before the game ends

[calm radish]

I am and it just seems like you haven't read through his stuff. He's said multiple times he has replied they're working on taking feedback and processing it

[open plaza]

well see about that in pre-alpha

[royal solar]

and no i dont wanna hear ''oh oh its only now that its short''the final product is still gonna be timed and that doesnt work with HN

i dont wanna hear it at all these are glaring issues that are gonna cause issues later on

[calm radish]

Why does it not work with HN? Do you know how the games are meant to work?

[open plaza]

I got news. Words dont mean nothin

[calm radish]

Okay you're just saying filler stuff atp this is bait

[civic totem]

What a bizarre conversation

[calm radish]

Literally

[open plaza]

😭

[calm radish]

I think these are like models training off of conversations or something

[royal solar]

it doesnt work HN is a puzzle game. you need times with puzzles. HN 3 in particular has advanced puzzles and people already reported it being confusing as hell which doesnt work with being timed ??

[open plaza]

brother u the npc

[royal solar]

they are talking about you

you are the NPC

literally made to ragebait or idk

[open plaza]

same brain

[calm radish]

@civic totem These are generative AI models don't reply, it's eating info

[royal solar]

girl who is you

varx is OUR friend he isnt on your team 😂

[open plaza]

i feel like varx could come up with way better and way educated response even if he has diff opinions than whoever this gx erry person is

[civic totem]

Izzy and colorain aren't gen AI models

[eager glade]

ayo guys we gota chill ta frop out yo u tryna play w da

[royal solar]

im izzy gpt....

[open plaza]

WHAT is bro even talking about

[calm radish]

So true we need to calm down

[royal solar]

you started fighting us hello ?

ijbol no girl

[eager glade]

Everything I'm talking everything

[open plaza]

are you talking fish n chips

oh this is hn3
better question
are you talking hn3?

[royal solar]

Hello neighbor 3 = fish and chips

[open plaza]

are we guys talking hn3? we are right

varx what is your general opinion on the conversation that just happened

[royal solar]

varx gpt...

[eager glade]

I'm talking about hn1 hn2 hn3 hnnd hnhas

[open plaza]

🔥

ima just wait here patiently until varx sends a wall of text

[civic totem]

"HN3's in-game time limit is too short" they've said they'll extend it
"HN3 is too confusing" they've said the plan is to make the pre-alpha less confusing
"They don't listen to feedback" they do... sometimes at least lol

And if you believe "words aren't actual, concrete actions" just wait for the pre-alpha to release

Not trying to sound mean

[oblique parcel]

WHAT is going on?

[open plaza]

ill just do that and make conclusions after yes

[royal solar]

thats the thing thats great they wanna extend it but i still dont think its enough i dont think HN games should be timed at all

[royal solar]

we started getting attacked for sharing opinions

😭

[oblique parcel]

Well what do you all want hn3 to be like?

[open plaza]

and they wanna extend it doesnt work either tbh... its a puzzle game that you need to do a bunch of thigs in order to win and you also have to figure it all while time's running out and youre redoing it all over

UNLESS they wanna completely turn HN into a "explorer" game which I dont know if I like ( I DONT )

[royal solar]

i want HN 2 parkour and no timed gameplay i want to be actual able to enjoy the story and puzzles without stressing a storm is going to oblitirate the town in the next 1.8 seconds

[calm radish]

Dude wants a roleplay game

[royal solar]

and its mostly with me i have ADHD and timed games make me insanely uncomfortable

[royal solar]

no.. ?

this server is the only place where u can say u dont like pancakes and people will assume you hate waffles i swear to god

[calm radish]

Just saying words-

[oblique parcel]

i agree with hn2 parkour but like i dont think the game is like doomed

or anything

[calm radish]

It's all doom and gloom here

[open plaza]

game is doomed if we dont see any changes on the things that make the game bad in pre-alpha

[royal solar]

you people will go into insane amount of lengths just to put others down lmao me having ADHD doesnt mean i cant enjoy HN 3 😃 i just wish i wasnt constantly stressing

[royal solar]

(colorain i dont think we are safe here the HN shooters came here we gonna get jumped for having opinions)

[near hawk]

Honey wake up new HNG discord lore dropped.

[royal solar]

the evil nikita twin...

[oblique parcel]

Im personally happy hn3 isnt exactly like hn2 altough i do agree with the parkour thing

[calm radish]

((We aren't putting you down we were trying to tell you they are taking feedback and you came back snarkily by saying words don't matter and they aren't despite the numerous times they've said so)

[open plaza]

I really didnt want to start another "I dont like where HN3 is going" talk
But I guess its unstoppable now

[royal solar]

well yeah words dont mean anything did you see the state of HN 2 ? you cannot blame colorain and me for wanting to see actual actions

[open plaza]

I'm giving you a billion dollars tomorrow
Are you believing me?

[calm radish]

No because you're nobody

[open plaza]

[royal solar]

YES 😍

[open plaza]

ah yes

[royal solar]

pretty sure im more known then whoever you are ?

[open plaza]

izzy dont

just

[royal solar]

came here just to be forgotten in a few minutes

[open plaza]

dont

[royal solar]

literally who are you

[civic totem]

No offense but that's not a good comparison

[calm radish]

Uh oh someone's getting angry

[royal solar]

because you are calling me a nobody for having an opinion ?

yk what i had enough of this im dming jacky

[civic totem]

Bruh

[open plaza]

no offense as well but theres no way to know if they're listening to feedback or not until pre-alpha
for the past 3 protos it didnt seem like it

[calm radish]

Okay? You're the one insulting the game and me when I was responding respectfully earlier

[open plaza]

like 😭

[near hawk]

The problem is like, you don't get the fun you'd get with normal parkour, according to Nikita (or something along those lines) but honestly...

[civic totem]

Let's just move on

[royal solar]

''respectfully'¨is when you call me a nobody ??

yeah sure

yk what im moving on

[open plaza]

that was directed to me

but wtv

[calm radish]

After you've been disrespectful to the developers and have said words don't matter after I've tried to be respectful in the convo yes

[near hawk]

People who don't want to use it and try a lot with parkout could not use it, while people who want to avoid it can just use the mechanic

[calm radish]

"The person you've been sarcastic and rude towards is talking back"

[near hawk]

No one really loses

[calm radish]

https://giphy.com/gifs/TheUndroppables-chalk-101chalk-op-KtiZRJhqJalRikl455

[royal solar]

you didnt try to be respectful once and how is having a negative opinion disrespectful ??

yk what

im just gonna ignore you

lets move on

[calm radish]

The model has updated

[royal solar]

blocked and we can move on

[open plaza]

words in fact do not matter if they dont actually take action
and were not being disrespectful to devs I still think theyre capable of making this game a good one if they make changes

[quartz canopy]

😹😹😹Hello! Neighbor.

Hello! Disrespectful Neighbor.😿😿😹

[slender basin]

This is not a place to insult each other. We created this space for you to talk about HN3 and chat with the dev team.
Please be nice to each other.

[royal solar]

ignoreee this conversation isnt bearing any fruit

[royal solar]

😭 thank you jacky

[slender basin]

So, move on.

[calm radish]

Tysm

[open plaza]

move on to what tho this is technically hn3 talk isnt it

but whatever

[royal solar]

from what was happening earlier

[open plaza]

ah

[royal solar]

lets talk about this

how we feel about green...

green storm

[slender basin]

I mean, from now on, be nice to each other.
All opinions are welcome, but no insults.

[open plaza]

thats in the game? or is edited

[royal solar]

in game lol unreal engine unlocker

i can edit the lighting haha

[open plaza]

ah

[calm radish]

I agree!!

[royal solar]

it can get pretty crazy tho

[open plaza]

yo that color correction lowkey good

[royal solar]

its too much but it has pretty moments

this is gorgeous for example

[open plaza]

i would play like that lwk

chat do YOU think my new PC will handle pre-alpha (it has a 5070 )

[royal solar]

i play on a 2060 super

so yes

[open plaza]

yes cuz tinyjacky

[sonic birch]

hi every

[open plaza]

hi frogthejack

[sonic birch]

hiii

[high brook]

What about purple storm

[high brook]

This actually looks amazing what

[royal solar]

i can actually do that yeah that is very easy

give me a moment

[royal solar]

i agree !

[open plaza]

Do red

[royal solar]

can do that too LOL

not a single colour is off limits

[sonic birch]

i like dis

[mighty orchid]

Can you do every color?

[royal solar]

yes but i dont wanna spam lol

@high brook

also the game takes on a whole new atmosphere if you turn down the lighting

[high brook]

Cool

Reminds me of the mayak kinda

[royal solar]

i actually preffer the darker one a lot more

[high brook]

Are you just changing the gamma

[royal solar]

auto exposure !

[high brook]

I wish hn3 had the prototype 1 environment still

The dense pine forests were so much more eerie

[royal solar]

well i mean there is always time to bring some parts of that back. i also really want the deeper forests back

[high brook]

Also it feels too warm for a game that takes place in spring

It should have some green and blues

Like the old p3 map concept art

[royal solar]

tbh it looks more like fall

rather then spring

[high brook]

Yea

The old concept art looks more like spring with all the fog

[royal solar]

i actually made this filter a while back for the game

[high brook]

Anyone remember when you couldn’t throw stuff in p1

I wonder why that happened

[royal solar]

which adds a lot more of blue colouring

[high brook]

I wonder what the p3 map would look like ported onto p1 with p1 assets

[royal solar]

😭 i think it wouldnt look the best haha

[high brook]

I wish I could see the night lighting without the storm

I wonder if there’s a way to change the time or remove the storm script entirely

[royal solar]

i think this blue shadow colouring fits HN 3 so well i mean look a thisss

[high brook]

It’s giving BATDR

And little nightmares kinda

[royal solar]

yeahh i just wanted to say that i mean its practically the same thing i made the shadows blue lol

[high brook]

Also I don’t get why people are complaining about all the lag and stuff

It runs perfectly for me on full settings

The only lag I get is from the ai usually

[royal solar]

the lag is pretty bad for others tho

night lighting btw with the blue colours

[high brook]

This looks really close to irl

Maybe make the blue a little lighter and it’s perfect

[royal solar]

like this ?

[high brook]

Yea

That looks really good

[royal solar]

comparisonn

idk i think the blue really elevates it a lot

[lunar trail]

True true

Is there like any way to get this look in game

reshade maybe idk

[delicate sigil]

Right picture is so good I hope the game ends up looking like this

[royal solar]

well i can send u over the UUU preset

if u want it

[lunar trail]

Yes

[royal solar]

alright ill figure it out LOL give me a second

[delicate sigil]

The only thing im sad about with HN3's style is that there cant be falling leaves and stuff due to the trees having none

that would be the strawberry on top

[royal solar]

i agree but i mean its spring right ? maybe some trees are already alive and stuff haha

i guess we will see

[delicate sigil]

Thats true, I also like the fully leave-less tree style but some leaves can't hurt...

[royal solar]

well i mean maybe once they remove the stock trees and do their own we will get some leafy trees

[delicate sigil]

Oh they're stock?

[royal solar]

yes haha

[delicate sigil]

Didn't know that, that's interesting

[royal solar]

its just temp models lol

[delicate sigil]

Ty for the info lol, excited to see the new trees then

[finite carbon]

It adds some depth to the atmosphere.

[royal solar]

yess absolutely

[chrome sun]

Are they gonna add more houses to the map?

[peak solar]

I didn't think about it much, but

[open plaza]

[peak solar]

the blue-ish filter over the lighting makes it look better

[open plaza]

yes.

[peak solar]

makes it feel a bit colder

which makes sense for the time period it's in

[open plaza]

tbf the shadows are a bit too blue for my liking but its so good

[royal solar]

i made this greener version

less blue

[open plaza]

yeeeeeees thats muuuch better

ngl this should be the original look

its so good

[royal solar]

i agreee

it really compliments the art style

[eager glade]

Not sure about adding but the unfinished houses will most likely be finished atleast most of them

[peak solar]

It's better to just focus on the empty houses first

[near meadow]

Except for the fact theres another guest model in the game files that is set to nevercook which means this is a whole new charactwr we havent seen meanwhile the “guest” in the game? Is labeled “forestdweller”

[peak solar]

there's a few neat buildings that aren't finished yet

[royal solar]

yeah there are two guests

which is really interesting

[open plaza]

really interestin