#halo-the-series-chat
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Heresy!
Give us 343 Guilty Spark
When does if end I want to binge it
think there's 3 more episodes i believe
3 more weeks
Hopefully they don't include kuans story or her in any shape or capacity was bored of her since the first episode
Towards the end of May
really? next episode is full kwan plot? ok, this is her last chance to redeem herself now
Guess i'm skippin an episode and watching a recap on youtube
I don’t think there are any redeeming qualities to that character
no none at all sorrin is the only one i really like out of that arc
They did Soren dirty, but overal the bar is pretty low anyways. Poor Jen Taylor having her character being undermined at all times 😞
yea was nice to see here as a tiny AI in this episode
hello
Hello
We almost got it. A full episode Without Kwan. Yet somehow they still shoehorned her in as a memory hole. Wtf.
Pity
#933834868637454446 but if I were to guess, it's because of the actor's contract.
They should hide a Kwan easter egg in every episode
People really said kwan was better than the pilot
"mY fAtHeR w0u1D wANt m3 tO fiGHT"
ididnt like that borwn skinned woman
beings souless is bad
like...kiling koana?have she lost her mind
so yeah these evil vibes suck
Watch her be a spartan
#933834868637454446 lads.
I bit my tongue and started watching the series, and if you smack yourself across the face once and call the guy John Halo instead of Master Chief it isn’t unwatchable
I like the show in a weird way
it’s like a car wreck, I can’t look away
I’m trying to treat it as just a mediocre sci fi show with a Halo theme and it is okay
Though I certainly wish I was watching something more true to, or set in the universe of the real setting v.v
Coulda had a show about Spartan IVs up to something and have em appear in Infinite for these narrative events 🤷♀️ just an idea tho
Why don’t they have the good theme music at the intro of the show? So annoying
@scarlet owl Spartan IVs are underrated, would love more media on them
SIV's are just kinda boring imo
they were all ODST's prior to joining the Spartan program
I don't mind them too much but yeah, they're definitely the least interesting of all the Spartans
feels like we don't get anything other than SIV media these days
Spartan IVs are boring because they don’t have enough media and coverage around them. There’s not enough to really care about them, which is why I want to see them more fleshed out and explored. If the Spartan program existed in the real world, it probably wouldn’t have started with kidnapping children, it would have been much closer to the Spartan IV program where the best of the best are invited in and made even better. If they expanded on them, I feel like they could actually be appreciated more. The IVs were inevitable anyways, because the IIs and IIIs weren’t going to last forever. A show based on some IVs could be really interesting, because they could have actual backstories and real world problems, like family issues, stuff like that. They’re could be scenarios where they could buckle under pressure, or other emotional stuff that the IIs and IIIs don’t really show in any other media because of their origins
I’m not saying the main focus of the entire franchise has to belong to the IVs, but maybe a good spin-off game, like an ODST, or even a DLC for Infinite based on IVs would be cool. The halo universe is huge and has space for the IVs, and I’m excited about the upcoming multiplayer narrative events because they’re going to feature the IVs and hopefully add in some characters die-hard fans won’t hate like Locke and Palmer
The ODSTs had their own game, the IIIs basically had their own game with Reach, I know Jorge was a II but that’s besides the point
The fact that IVs are just regular Joe Schmos that enroll to Spartan School and are given super suits is already enough to make them inherently less interesting honestly. And if we saw them going through family issues like going through divorces and arguing with their spouse I'd definitely like them even less lmao
One of the things I dislike the most out of the TV show is the romance they're hinting towards Chief and Makee, Spartans really shouldn't be having any business getting involved with those themes
Ultimately their origins result in IVs not having the same amount of discipline that the IIs and IIIs have which just ends up with them doing really stupid things that the other gens would never do
Spartan 4s can be pretty interesting. Take veterans from the human covenant war, those that have been struggling, killing and losing the whole time. Upgrade them and unleash them on humanity's foes. They may not of been indoctrinated as children, but they definitely earned the Spartan moniker.
I don't think the writers have necessarily handled the 4's well but I find this whole 'discipline' thing to be kind of dumb. They're inherently different cultures is what's happening. That'd be like waking up to a seal or green beret and saying they suck because they have a family and friends, lol. See where that gets you
Well when you put it like that I agree. Spartan IV's are just tall marines 
That's really where the problem is. I like the concept of Spartan IVs but 343 doesn't present them well. It's said only that the best of the best are able to become them and many were former ODSTs but they're constantly being depicted as frat boys that are way into themselves. We're led to believe they're elite tier-1 operators but instead we're only exposed to cocky trust fund kids who spout quirky one-liners while being very strict to the book and never acting on intuition.

With what we saw in Halo 4, yeah. Plenty of writers out there just don't know how to write soldiers, follow some basic habits. So odd situations are often presented. Acting on intuition is often times a heat of the moment thing, not something you strictly stick to when you have the time to explore possibilities. I mean hell after all, MC was going to fire the halo ring until Cortana told him not to
You're going to get banter, definitely. But if you're referring to the scene where they're toying around with the covenant equipment and get ambushed? Yup. That was stupid. Every basic grunt out there knows that. You do that stuff back in safety of 'home,' not in the field, away from leadership
Locke: Hate for fighting Chief
Palmer: Hate for shooting Halsey
In my opinion, the IVs are pretty much kids compared to the IIs. Plus their armor looks almost cheap in a way-
And did I mention I hate Locke and Palmer?
Yes, hate me 

Did i...I.... did a warning for saying the new possible showrunners name?
Deadpool might try to break yours
Who doesnt
I felt Palmer was pretty good
their characterization wasnt very good in 5 tbh
it felt like i was playing as a marine or something
Yeah, I wouldn’t consider them “hate able” though
5 had its moments but locke just felt very cookie cutter-y and basic
"im the disgruntled team leader who wants to get the guy"
BUCK THOUGH
BUCK!
If chief ever dies, Buck should be the new protag
honestly i dont think the fandom would let 343 get away with killing off chief
i can see the ragemob now
I wouldn’t be surprised if he never died
I want Chief dead, before they ruin him anymore
Jerome/Red team should be new protagonist
Remember Halo 5s campaign
NO.
Yes buck is poggers
But I don't think buck can replace Chief. Buck is great but just not the 'humanity's greatest hope' type.
I don't think anyone can replace Chief, actually. If there was anyone, I think they'd already replaced him years ago
It's been twenty years
It would only be funny if they killed Chief in the TV series. Don't think anyone really cares enough to consider him as the same person from the games anyway
I care 🫥
Ya know can we talk about how the Twitter and paramount reveals spoil the TV show
Like in the recent post they mention a author
And because of this I think I legit know how it's going to go down
Same with makee talking about her intentions in a sneak peak
Where just by seeing it it became really obvious what her backstory was
I hate people that moan about this tv series, give it a chance I like this tv show they have to it different from the games
I somewhat disagree, I actually see most people giving creative feedback
If it's somewhat passionate so be it.
There nothing wrong with this halo tv show
The complaining about people complaining has become a issue in itself in the halo fanbase lol
I'm a halo fan but I like this tv series
Cool
Haters that what they are people who moan about halo tv series
i mean i personally found alot of issues with it and stopped watching
i just didn't like it, got sick of kwhan or however you spell her name, tired of the booty shots, tired of little to no action, etc.
I'm a big soran and rubble fan and the show just..
Doesn't portray them accurately
Nothing wrong with something different with halo
Kilo 5 triology, the Cole protocol and especially pariah are probaly my favorite halo stories and I'd be lying if I said the show was a accurate portrayal, or even respectful, but alas with weiner on board who has extensive experience with Sci fi book adoptions I think the show has a solid future
It's like what they done with halo infinite they changed that to
There northing wrong with this halo tv series it's getting good
Loving the Encyclopedia fish-man.
The encyclopedia is legit one of the best Sci fi guides I've ever seen
Probaly the best Sci fi guidebook
Is like halo games is different to the books
I mean
Are they other reach
Halo infinite is getting rhe Rubicon protocol halo ce has the flood and then first strike explains the events between ce and 2 and 4 is Really reliant on novel information
Haters going to hate 😴 I think they done well with halo tv series
Problem with halo infinite there no co op missions
Yet
I think I saw it said best by another, that the show creators want to insist how seperetr it is from the games, yet the show relies on your knowledge
I feel like maybe fanbases miss meta perspectives.
Even if you love the show a massive change in the narrative is just inevitable due to production events.
It's going to happen
Oh they completely do. Fanbases have a tenency to get tunnel vision, and easily
Is Miranda the best character in the show
No that's vennak
It'd better than the star wars Fandom at least
Poor buggers, they got Retconomiconed and then newfandom'd.
Least here, the TV shows its own thing and they made it clear its seperate.
I
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@halcyon widget what
I really want some information on seasons 2s casting
We have none
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Cant say I have, no
i love this show. im hooked. episode 5 was great. not a huge fan of the side story, but will give it time to play out.
i dropped it, just got sick of it personally. I'm sure others can love it but i'm out for now
the show is good, just as long as you take it as something new, not like the games
which is unfortunate I wish it was like the games but
47 percent critically ,
But a 79 percent audience rated
I like the story
That's brave new worlds score on rotten tomatoes
It's more based on the books
And I'm afraid it isn't a good adaption on that part.
Not yet at least
I wish they kept that jackal charater an actual jackal in the show like it was in the books
the one on the rubble
At the very least they've brought more experienced showrunners for season 2
Drop the show, enjoy the combat clips. Best way to handle it XD
Reject story, embrace Spartan lethality
But I won't lie I do think that if we do just get a solid adaptation, I kinda feel like the whole idea of the silver timeline kinda loses purpose
The show is in a weird spot.
It would probaly need to go Into being more of a elsewhere story than a retelling.
I think the "silver timeline" stuff was just an official excuse to let them do the usual stuff adaptations do.
Cause I have yet to truly see a "faithful" adaptation that doesnt require extensive money to support it.
Yeah, closest we obviously got was Landfall or FOD
Foward into dawn first half is exellent
The second half had the issue of running into budget limitations
I would kill for a Lasky show
Pity we can't get something focused on Thel
There'll be a book in October
Indeed although I'm a bit skeptical as nizat has looked like bean replaced by vale as the secondary main character
If you take it as a sequel to oblivion
I meant other series but your not wrong.
Halo: Lasky sounds amazing.
Each episode is just Lasky being a nearly unstoppable chad.
Also, the new book is very much a sequel to Oblivion
Halo: Green Machine, Johnson tale
I concur.
If we see her on the Hibbert and she recreates her glorious strike on screen, Im taking my had off.
As for Miranda, I think its more shes a Captain in rank but not specifically JOB.
I mean all she needs is a space ship
Sesson 2 will show the Fall of reach sesson 3 will be arrivel on the first halo sesson 4 back on earth then first spinof halo odst
ODST's better be introduced as shown in the live action movie trailer of halo 3
Fair enough,
I do think the show has good sets, costumes, action and cinematography but I also think the timeline has become somewhat of a buzzword distracting from the fact that it's still a adaptation
And in that regard I don't really think it's a good one
who hates margret
The actual character or the weird show version
from paramount plus
On its own I like her but as a portrayal of the book version I think it's poorly done
Margaret is meant to be like the single most powerful individual human in the galaxy.
The absolute superior to Halsey and oni and everyone pretty much
I think the show wanted to combine her and ackerson
epi 7 when
Thursday the 5th
Unicor neam play ????
For some reason my P+ app on my tv can’t play videos without stopping to buffer every few seconds. None of my other streaming apps have this issue
Sucks
Internet?
It’s better to get the P+ channel add on for Amazon Prime Video imo, I’ve had no issues with it. You won’t be able to use the standalone app though
Also what the heck is up with the ads
I pay for the ad free version
And they just...
Still give me ads?
And other people get them too
Sounds like a Paramount problem. Contact them
So, after watching the latest episode. I decided to rewatch all of it again, it's better on a second viewing at least for me. Latest episode was great.
You know don't take me saying this as being negative but paramount been trying to make alot more money as usual.
@teal nymph ☝️
oh i know how it works
So um how's your day,night,evening going?
I personally like how the show is going, I just wish the Kwan/Madrigal plot line didn’t exist. The props are good (but could use some work), and the sets are really good. I personally think the writing is decent/pretty good when you consider they’re trying NOT to be like the games. I like Miranda’s character development, I think they nailed Halsey’s character really well, maybe just make MC a bit less dramatic. I also think the music could be better, but I think the reason they went with the stuff they did was because of the Marty O’Donnell and Mike Salvatori’s lawsuit which was still unsettled at the time final edits were made. Past few episodes have been great, and I think the show can do very well and improve a lot next season.
i think its weird that it uses so much from the books but never actually represents them accuratly
I like that the actor of Master Chief tries so hard to act as him, yet they keep screwing up the character
LOL
it's a nitpick but when Chief fell to the ground after touching the bigger artifact, you could see the rubber suit bend sideways from the knees.
my only prob with this version of the chief is that he is very emotionally unstable and can't keep his helmet on. Besides that, I think the actor is doing just fine.
They should use rippys music
Actually most of halo stuff should use rippys music now that we're fighting the banished
Just like in general his music should be used more
Who says they're fighting the Banished? We don't even know if the Banished exist in this timeline.
"mY MeMoRiES WeR ERasED"
No I mean all content in general like infinite
You can also see the cardboard cut prop of a plasma pistol without any CGI in E1. They forgot to add it onto it in the final cut
Yo
Every time I see Stellur hes chewing gum, even on stream. Anyone know whats his flavor?
Let's go Optic!
yea... alot of the changes kinda ended up being... filler
they don’t layer CGI to on a prop that isn’t chroma keyed that’s not how it works
its possible and not very hard to do tho
depending on you adobe after effects trial
oh gifs dont work here
How many seasons u think they’re good for
1 is too many
Nothing other than the visuals even feels like Halo. Nothing about the characters or the story feel like the story we know. Its like the writers were like: "Source material? Whats that?"
Usually an AU usually borrows alot of the actual story, just make a few alterations. At least the Star Trek movies that came out ( which was an AU) felt more faithful than this
I feel dude. Iof all the opportunities for Halo to finally become a big series and they had to do it like this. And this will be what we get as far as live action halo goes for awhile too. Wack
For those that like it, lucky
At least we can go back to the games to relive the good stuff
Why would you want them to cancel the show? If you don’t like it I just wouldn’t watch. Cancelling the show does nothing good for the franchise. I’ve been wanting a Halo movie/TV show since I was a kid, if they cancel it we’ll NEVER get another shot seeing one.
If they could just make a movie separate from this show, that would be awesome
The show takes nothing from the foundation that made Halo what it is. The characters were butchered for the sake of a story that doesn't even make sense. The only 'passable' quality are the action scenes, but the story is supposed to be the buildup that makes that action scene feel worth it
It'll never get another shot unfortunately either. If it succeeds, it'll be confusing when fans go into the series and realise everything they watched is wrong. If it fails, no one will take a risk on it again.
So in 20 years time?
Probably not tho, considering mario had been t consistently good and as big as it is since it came out
20 years better than never baby
It is what it is now
They really should just have a movie separate from the series that follows more traditional to the games
And it doesn’t need to be the same, just capture the spirit
The thing is fans want the same thing as the games, and the issue there is that the game’s story doesn’t translate well to TV. Video Games are very interactive, whereas TV is very reactive.
At it’s core it’s the same story, they’ve just changed certain characters and things. The core of the story is still Master Chief kill alien baddies.
Problem is to get there they changed too much.
I’d say they want the identity of what makes halo more than anything
Marvel movies find a way to make spider man recognizable while being completely different n story
I'd be fine with some stuff if they'd kept Chief's origin intact. That's a huge change.
Its not the same story, not even remotely close. Like I said the 'Source material'. The games, and the books, show nothing that would have led up to where we are in the show. Its completely different. The only thing that binds them is the characters, and they couldn't even get that right
The stream ended before I could get my charm 😛
It started at 9 and I needed to watch for an hour but it edned before that
Check the game, the twitch thing was misleading me all night and I actually ended up getting it
Is it me, or is Cortana a lot more... Submissive than normal XD
yesnt
chief not being emotional and wearing a helmet helped the contrast and chemestry between the two
without it thats been lessened tho it started off fine tbh
I mean… if you were trapped in the brain of an emotionally unstable super soldier on a bad day, you probably would be too
Then why was it fine in the scene just before that? They left that prop sitting there without any post work, that’s just sloppy.
I mean, great point, I too would be timid and incredibly subservient if I was stuck in the presence of something that can snap my spine with it's finger haha
Fair enough, yeah I agree it's not a bad start in that perspective.
Also whiners will whine about literally anything no matter what so. Take some of the complaints with salt
nah i see where alot of them are coming from
the show can claim its a different timeline all it wants but as long as its keeps trying to include book characters and events and locations
its going to be considered a adaptation and be judged as such
along side stuff liek the supermario movie or the first doom movie
Hi, can someone tell me what we can see in the Halsey's videos on the paramount website? I don't live in the right country 🙄
Halo Canon makes reviews of them. Check his channel on YouTube
He does reviews of the show as well
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Thank you
@mental geyser Use #651594850042511365
Heard, I just did. Sorry bout that. @neon plover
By definition, alternate timelines will retain key characters, themes, and details yet change various aspects of those characters, themes, and details.
@spare mirage I'd argue that the core of Halo which the series is attempting to explore is a bit deeper than 'Chief kill alien baddies.' Indeed, the show is even going a bit deeper than the games, in that sense, by making deliberate and explicit the seedy underbelly of UNSC politics, the horrors of the SPARTAN program and the killing machines which it created, as well as the plainly human dimension of Chief we often lose in game (however, some moments from Halo 4, 5, and Infinite attempt to remedy that).
Ah yes the amazing change of rubble being a hyper organized and civilized Hispanic community to slum ridden anarchists.
It's not a elseworlds story
It's not formated like it. There is no point of deviation that defines the story
"Hyper organized and civilized Hispanic community" is a bit of misnomer. If anything, I'm not sure why the Kig-Yar are apparently absent from The Rubble in the Silver Timeline, but by jove I'm going to let them tell me this story and enjoy it without getting all up in my nighty. This is Halo lore tweaked in a Silver Timeline - not Holy Scripture. If I want "core" Halo for some reason, whatever that means, I'll stick to the games and books. Give me something familiar, but new. I think we're getting that.
Your welcome to think that but I think me and many will still disagree that this is meant to a adaptation first and when paramount and the showrunneres realized that it was being done poorly, they came to the agreement of Killian and Kane leaving and wiener taking hold of the project.
If that was the consensus, the show wouldn't have been written and marketed the way it was. I almost guarantee Wiener will keep moving forward with the Silver Timeline and exploring various key themes, according to Pablo, in "deeper" and "richer" ways.
However, in the words of Installation 00, there is nothing you will say to convince me to not enjoy this show. 🤣
I'm not... trying to?
Me having a opinion shouldn't get in the way of yours
The show has aliens blowing up teenagers
That's great
Fair enough - I was projecting the toxicity I see all over comment threads onto you. Not fair.
Imma be real
That happens alot
Both sides are kinda equally toxic
Toxic positivity is a real thing; you see it a lot over this show
I'm not on Twitter or reddit,
Everyone else is talking crazy to me
Fr
People are backlashing at the odst fanfilm for calling itself lore accurate and taking it as some insult to the show which it probaly is but still
True. I think folks, myself included, feel some silly need to combat the over-the-top negativity. However, if you were to scan all of the comments across YouTube, I suspect you'd find toxic negativity to be both more prevalent and "hateful," so to speak.
I think people just don't like the show and tbh it's not really that bad.
Like it's not even 1/100th of star wars toxicity
It really muddies discussions as much as negativity imo, look at how people talk about how the show's handling MC's armor/helmet -- There are tons of examples of strong characters that rarely, if ever, show their face, and her compelling, believable relationships with other characters who do show their expressions through facial gestures, etc.
I think people are projecting the star wars Fandom on the halo one
Sure, negativity and "regular" toxicity usually results in hateful speech and such, but that's like saying the sky is blue, water is wet, etc.
It's a nothing* statement and only serves to detract from the point, that toxic positivity is equally a problem to discussion for its own reasons
Not commenting on the recent discussion btw
ive seen more people complaining about people complaining than people complaining
what a tongue twister
Only joined a few comments ago, but I've been having that thought lately lol
At least @mental dirge was respectable enough to be self aware in that @teal nymph wasn't trying to attack their taste in the show
I'm not even sure "toxic" is apt for blind positivity. Perhaps 'sycophantic positivity' would be a better term. There is, in a sense, a violence associated with one, and a naivete on the other. I think to equate the two is really a nothing statement because it ignores the intrinsic nature of what it means to be positive or negative in this context.
i mean tv is tv i dont really expect every show to be like really good
most shows struggle in general, their is no pefect show and i understand that
Haha, is that all I have going for me? Oh boy . . .
I mean, idk you lol, you seem alright going from this little talk 🙂
i mean ive heard people even starting to lash out at the source authors saying the halo show fixed their work
which feels kinda toxic
Interesting, maybe those are better ways to describe it, but it lessens the impact of "toxic positivity" which is apt for these situations where an umbrella is cast upon all criticisms
people are WAY to hard on karen travis, her books are FINE and probaly good overall
I get your point and the desire for an umbrella 'catch all.' Hmm. @teal nymph Makes an interesting point. That does seem a bit toxic, but I still think there is a disparity in the two 'parties' we're seeing most often in comment threads. Perhaps the least toxic path forward is to simply let the show exist (instead of trying to literally cancel), let those who enjoy it do so without catching grief for it, and let the books and games exist on their own.
i kinda get the cancelling thing for more meta reasons tbh i think a studio more desperate for a sci fi franchise like warner bros would go a bit crazy on a shows budget
paramount already has star trek
man whatever happend to battlestar galatica
What do you mean by 'meta reasons'? Because of another studio or something? I am genuinely interested to see where Wiener and the crew take this baby next season . . . . Maybe I'm the only one . . . 😔
nono i absolutly am too
hands down
he has experiance in sci fi adaptations
rather than like a couple episodes of american dad
also i heard his episoded of fear the walking dead got a emmy
That is encouraging! From what I understand, Season 1 was practically in production limbo and had tons of different fingers all over it. Still, I don't think it's as uTtErlY tRaSh as so many claim. Each episode and the ensuing discussion is a bright spot in my week - I genuinely look forward to it.
i think the main issue is wiener probably sticking to what he does best and just make a faithful adaptation,
which would kinda constitute questioning if the silver timeline itself should continue or if a different production company could outbid paramount.
i think guessing that these versions which feel like were made for a one season show are going to be continued in their entirety is a bit rash
Perhaps - I just got the impression Paramount's vision was a multi-season production.
maybe theyll do a american horror story/black mirror
nah it was expected to be one season
i dont think it was clarified if that was said because it was formated that way or because they thought it was bad tho
probaly the first one with how fast character arks are going
Are you sure about that? With Season 2 being greenlit even before 1 dropped? Why? Perhaps with 'Halo' breaking records for Paramount, they'll up next season's budget?
probaly not because most of the outfits and sets and props are already made
True, true. Depends where they take it, I suppose.
thats not a bash that means more money will go to other stuff so it would be like having a bigger budget anyway
yea like i said black mirror / american horror story where its like one season seperate stories semi in the same universe with the same actors
i would not be suprised if sapani also plays johnson if that happens
Hmmmmm. That could be intriguing. I do think Pablo is already slated for Chief, however, based on how he's been discussing it.
i guess well wait and see
Indeed. I've appreciated the discussion, my good @teal nymph.
i would send a handshake gif if i could

Another Kwan episode due 
Yeah I'll just watch the recap on youtube. Can't really be bothered with that character.
ODST band of brothers is such a meme
From Halo Waypoint: "Next episode is a doozy, I must say! It’s one that I personally found to be one of my favorites of the show, bringing some great payoffs to Kwan’s storyline and going to some of the more esoteric corners of the Halo universe—stuff that really rubs close to some of Greg Bear’s writing. But I shall refrain from saying more, you’ll see soon enough..."
It's as revisionist as FNAF stans saying the OG games were absolutely brutal when they really weren't
Just caught up last night and I am hooked
how many episodes will there be in season 1?
9
thanks
Show sucks
That's nice
What do y'all think about Cortana in the show? My opinion not my photo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKcTkAIX0AUVFbj?format=jpg&name=small
I am enjoying Cortana - I thought they did a good job of succinctly demonstrating the darkness surrounding her creation.
Quick question: Did anyone else get a little goosebumpy when Chief yelled "On me!" in Episode 5?
Fight me
Episodes 5 and 6 (the latter of which I just watched) were the best so far, IMO.
I appreciate how they have completely taken the show into its own canon, turning the Chief from a faceless killing machine into an ocean of mental and physical anguish.
And good God, Natasha McElhone’s performance as Halsey is just perfect. I don’t think I’ve hated a character more — what an evil, evil psychopath.
I agree with most of that. The series is pretty decent when the Kwan stuff isn’t on screen. Episode 6 showed us that even Silver Timeline Halo can still be “Halo-like” at least.
Yeah, I thought I’d end up hating her in this because of the horrible glimpse we saw of her in the trailer, but she ended up being one of the very few things successfully reminding us that this is indeed a Halo series.
Finally someone who noticed this!
She did such a great job with the character until now.
I don’t know what I expected when she asked to see her daughter in Ep. 6.
I appreciated the Asian American representation and her fierce persona, but as it became clear that her obsession with avenging her father consumed her and made her a one-dimensional character, I’ve largely stopped caring about the Soren–Kwan subplot.
I can respect the fact that the showrunners wanted to give attention to the insurrectionist aspect of the Halo universe, but focusing so much on that in conjunction with how important Master Chief’s story is doesn’t really work.
im just gonna put it here flat out the show doesnt try much thats actually new
thats not like a massive dig at it but i do hope people dont try to put that as a selling point of the show because if so thats gonna dissapoint new fans
People should probaly stop comparasions because by doing that something like Halsey can quickly become the worst part of the show
How so? Almost every element in it is new. The characters, the atmosphere, the pacing, the human conflict, the brutal violence, the suffering, and the absolute departure from the very essence of the Chief’s character: putting a human face on a faceless killing machine and into conflict with his girlfriend AI companion.
.... what? There isn't a single new location and the only new character is kwan
And her dad I guess
Yea I get the face thing I've played halo 4 where we got this story and his face
Hello
I’m new to the Halo franchise, though I’ve read quite a bit about the lore and watched that 22-minute explanation of its background (IGN?). Doesn’t that shot only appear on Legendary? And where you don’t even see his eyes or nose?
Bro it's litteraly the thought that counts
The entire story is about humanizing chief and how the spartan program effected him
Makee, Captain Keyes, Admiral Parangosky, Miranda Keyes, Soren, Kai, Riz, Vannak . . . ?
I forgot about silver team which should probaly tell you something tbh
Hood? Miranda keye?
Did you not play the games?
Perengosky, soran?
lmfao
That’s what I get for arriving in Infinite
Apologies.
It's good game and a pretty ok start too
I think Riz and Vannak are a lot more forgettable. But Kai is one of my favorite characters (along with Chief and Keyes) because her extracting the hormone pellet gave her back her humanity.
I kinda disagree mostly because like a episode ago chief did the exact same thing
Vannak is actually pretty good tho he's used so sparingly but to good effect
Didn’t he get his humanity back?
Well exactly
That's the point
Kai is kinda just a retread of chief and could probaly be switched out for him
I dunno this is kinda annoying but it's not like a real bad point or anything tbh
Well, I think it’s good to have both a “freed” female Spartan and a separate take, so to speak. And I thought that scene where Chief told her to stand down because she said she was feeling things she never had before provided a good contrast. Chief seems to want to suppress his outbursts of emotion at times, and Kai just lets herself go.
When she ||let herself nearly get killed because she couldn’t absorb the psychological agony of seeing her fellow Marines get slaughtered in front of her,|| that was a standout moment, as well.
I would agree if chief actually did suppress his outbursts because he does not
That’s a good thing, though, right? That’s the contrast between Kai and Chief I was talking about. Chief seems unsure about the new emotions he’s feeling, but typically allows himself to become angry and emotional and terrifying.
No what I'm saying is that their is no contrast and chief can do both of these scenes since people can feel more than one emotion
I just think that contrast manifests itself in different ways. Kai is almost happy at times; Chief becomes emotional, terrifying.
I think the simple concept of contrast has been kinda out the window ever since they introduced the emotion inhibiters
What halo is known for, chief being a simpleton robot looking human,
And cortana being a charismatic human looking robots cannot exist now that chief has lost what defines him as a character
The truth is that the helmet, his tone, all of it added to their chemistry and now without it, it has become toxic and borderline abusive
Kwan and chief were interesting but the show just... split them up I guess
It's the same with the chief and arbiter.
Isn’t that because of the way Cortana was introduced to Chief in the show?
It was explicitly done to control him, whereas in the games she was a partner, a helper.
That entire aspect of the controlling narrative is at fault.
I completely see why people like the show tho but I'm still afraid that the "new" narrative some fans have been talking about will get it to die out like with the star wars sequels
🙏
It was totally shoehorned in (he did not have to take off his pants to remove the pellet) but I ain’t complaining
I'm guessing UK release for this will be TBA?
GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT
Garbage show
Keep it constructive please
They cared more about making it appealing to NEW viewers then actually sticking to any lore and fan based content human in the covenant....Masterchief talking and showing his face 24/7 making Spartans look weak after they take out there chips curling into a ball on the floor...all just so wrong I understand some takes like him talking more because if he didn't it would just be a weird show but even him visiting places which in lore he never did and his armor In that time that armor MK wasn't even around..
Everything is just weird the creator's never watched the show and I'm just disappointed you guys let them do this to our beloved series
Pretty sure it was just kai who curled up into a ball
nah the show isnt as bad as the Star Wars sequels. The show isnt riddled with inconsistencies, stupid logic and massive plot holes through out the entire trilogy
Like at best even if you hate the show for not sticking to in game lore, its still an average 6
yeah i agree
they had a couple moments where they tried to appeal to older fans but they were short and felt really gimmicky and cheap
Agreed
like there are hints to the games but theyre very few and far between
Silver Team: Kai Vannak and Riz and Kwan and Mackee are new characters. Keyes (both of them) Parangosky and Soren already existed in canon.
Yeah, a series veteran corrected me upthread on that. This is what I get for checking in at Halo Infinite.
No worries just trying to help a fellow fan.
I mean the fanbase overhyping it
Paramount + Only i'm afraid
just?
Didn't know that existed until i watched the series, it's the most watched thing ever on there and i'm not surprised
Yes, Paramount + only,
I tried far and wide to pirate it but it was so hard i just gave up and watched it on that
YAR
Also you can do the trial for paramount, end it and maybe get a month free
yeyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Yeah just give it a couple more weeks and you may be able to binge it
I didn't expect the show to have such good cinematography
Tracking shots are very well balanced which is something even marvel doesn't do that well
Hype for the next episode whooohoooo
Makee tryina get some of that lil spartan defender if you know what i mean
@tawdry kestrel
Just saw a commercial where they said die hard halo fans would be very pleased.
Yeah 343, I'm really sure they're pleased that you handed the IP over to people who made it a point to not view the source content.
If you're referring to the show runners not playing the games, that's incorrect and was clarified by them shortly after
they just didnt acknowledge them it was like metaphorical or something
It seems to me that they acknowledged both the games and lore. Kane denied that the show is "non-canonical," as it draws deeply upon established canon and lore, but rather is "canon-adjacent" - a fitting label, in my view.
They took Chiefs stoicism and herotic tendencies out as well
well that was a lie lol
if their gonna used book characters i would hope they would charactize them accurately
I would have been okay with the show if it built up the humanizing of Chief instead of making him go bananas from the get go
like fr i have no idea what soran is doing here or what the thought proccess was about him
this is like some supermario bros movie levels of weird random changes
Even then the whole humanizing chief is such a bad take, we've seen it since Halo 4.
i think its good but the show rushed it
or maybe not since it kinda looked like it was meant for one season and not multiple
Does no one miss the badassary and almost humorous chief ??
"Draws upon" and "facsimiles" are rather different . . . I am currently okay with it, and I expect I will continue to be, so long as nothing outrageously grievous happens . . Haha.
too late
halsey is like weirdly the opposite of her in the books
which feels very specific
the show is like watching game of thrones... backwards
I expect we will see more "badassery" and humor. However, we're also going to see more humanization - something I personally enjoy.
if you like halsey in the show then youll be VERY happy to see her in her canon apperance
shes easily the most complicated and interesting character in the franchise
i envy new fans watching the show
Chief in forward unto dawn was better ngl
I don't even mind the helmet being off, he just doesn't act like a Spartan
Oh boy . . . I really just have to disagree with you, there 🤣.
None of the Spartans in this show act like Spartans
vannak does
He does yesh
riz is like the tanaka of the show
I've enjoyed Halsey in each of her iterations!
Who is the blonde Spartan? She's very forgettable..
Her scenes are just awkward
It's not even the actors fault either
See, I also enjoy Kai quite a lot . . .😆
i understand changes but i think it loses people when it fails at accurate characterization
like for example a main aspect of miranda is that she can be called "gung ho"
but can you say that about the shows version?
I feel like the emotion suppression tablets are just dumb, you'd end up emotional empty if you were trained as a killing machine from a young age regardless
Honestly, Miranda never really connected with me . . . In game, at least. The show's iteration, however, has captured my attention. Perhaps you may be saying that about her before the end?
i think the bigger problem isnt that it just changes it
its that its actually fundimentally less interesting than halsey placing herself as a mother figure and controlling the spartans via motherly love
Agreed, because in Canon the Spartans II's would never try to kill Halsey..
i think its kinda annoying because i like her but knowing that its a replacent kinda also means were not going to get the original version
That scene actually made me scratch my head
eh
soran, saren, and niomi could probaly do it if they wanted to
Well this team is sort of this canons blue team, they were close to Halsey.
silver team is just weird and i dont understand their existence tbh
like actually ive been following the production and im just actually confused
Some might have . . . And a compromised Chief (both via the lack of suppression and direct, repeated contact with the artifact - which seems to bring a sense of 'darkness' as per Reth) might certainly have.
i think the show will probaly go back and put him in the helmet more and kinda shelf his personality for season 2 so his dynamic with others work more
which sucks but i dont know what people expected
Precisely - we're not getting the original versions. I suppose I've made peace with that and am just trying to enjoy what they come up with. I like the idea of asking, "What if Halsey did X?" "Would Y actually work?" Etc.
people hate kwan but shes a new character so im actually more invested in her than others
i think people are projecting all teh shows issues onto one character and it feels a bit unfair tbh
i would be ok if paramount wasnt going to artificially expand its lifespan
Kawans Story just sucks I'm sorry
Actor is really good, but whoever wrote it needs to hit the drawing board next season
it do
but ay its not like retreading on better material outside of the abomiation that is soran
so when somehting happens to kwan im not thinking "well this has no bearing on teh actual character in the lore"
and therefor im more interested
Did anyone else think the insurrectionist don't look like.. they belong in Halo?
outside the aks i think its fine
You'd assume they'd use stolen UNSC tech and uniforms
i dont know it looks like what if slum rats tried to fight back and i think thats cool
I mean the need for Spartans is negated if the AK bullets can't penetrate their shields
💀
i got to say costume design is absolute peak in teh show
its all so perfect
perfectly captures halos artstyle
general ha specifically looks awsome and the perfect insserectiuonist
I think the AKs make someeee sense if they are truly poor, renegade insurrectionists. Heck, they've lasted this long! 🤣
its too iconic lol
i keep seeing afganistan jokes
I think they had to in order to give his TV character depth. Regarding heroism — I think him ||giving up the artifact to save Kai's life|| was a sound demonstration of that.
Maybe there's a Soviet subplot?
ay i can see that the first innies were like soviets in space
Chief in the book had depth??
I've also said for some time that I believe that Halsey, not the Covenant, is the main antagonist of the series. After all, if you believe (as I do) that the main plot is not Human vs. Covenant but Chief vs. Those Who Seek to Use and Control Him, then that interpretation becomes fairly clear.
huh, actually the new fracture armor could have probaly been bolskavic armor from the lore
you don't have to change a character completely to make him fit lol
also the German based armor in infinite LMAOA
Looks like wolfenstein
No, TV. I'm a newcomer to the Halo franchise; most of my knowledge is based on watching YouTube explainers.
That's cool if you enjoy it
I think we'll see dynamics of Chief vs. Human AND Chief vs. Covenant - and I am totally okay with Chief vs. Human, and even want to see it, but I NEED Chief vs. Covenant.
But you'd certainly enjoy chief if he was portrayed properly more
thats a pretty bad source of info tbh
i dont know what happened but i kinda came to realize after talking to them that they dont read the books
they skim like every other chapter to make the video first
The books themselves could make excellent movies and TV shows
Forgot you can't curse in this server lol
Ya see, Peter, I'm gonna' have to go ahead and disagree with you there . . . I do think the show's portrayal of Chief is compelling in its own right. However, if your measurement of the show is canon purity, you're (not you, just generally) gonna' have a bad time.
@knotty tendon Check out Halo Canon and Installation 00 on the yootubs.
The way they handled reclaimers isn't remotely interesting either
i know em and their better than mosts thats a pretty solid group
i forgot makee is around tbh
probaly because she hasnt been around for some episodes so nevermind
lol
Yo why did they make Keyes act like Johnson tho
Not against it but
he doesnt act like johnson
He gives me Johnson vibes wym
Not I, Horajo . . . (Or however you say it . . .)
I don't think Keyes was a field commander either lol
Definitely only Navy
But Halsey in this show is nice
Halsey got nerfed
Oh yeah most definitely
U can’t black mail dr Halsey
I don't mind Miranda's new spot as a scientist either
Hear, hear.
I think I just want more of the og Miranda before this
Yeah me too..
The series to me is a overall disappointment but it has some golden lights
Maybe when thr invasion of Reach happens I'll start liking it
Play on Xbox Series s To Play My Halo Games
Think you want #general-chat or one of the game channels, this channel is for discussing the TV show
Episode 7: Skipped
My Mood for Skipping: So much better and healthier
Episode 7 of halo-the-series was great too watch. Kwan ha with associates makes great contribution to Halo storyline and Halo universe.
trolling?
hi
Is it worth getting paramount for this?
No
Watch the trailers and see if it's something you might be interested in
The trailers are propaganda. Read spoiler free reviews from people who legitimately care about Halo and aren't Corporate hacks like screen-rant, games rant, and games radar
The show is worth watching, definitely. But yeah, try reading some spoiler free reviews.
Idk if this is off topic but if there were to be a destiny tv show/series
I think Jin Ha's actor would make a great drifter
same! haha
I just watched episode 7 and I hope that’s the end of Kwans story and they can stick to master chief. They were losing me with her.
No
Trailers don't do it justice
There's wayyyy too many drama scenes
They might still enjoy it
Episode 7 was a pretty decent episode, if I do say so myself.
Seal Team and 1883 make Paramount worth it
How many episodes are left?
Too many
Episode 8 & 9 are left.
Look Ik people are complaining but i personally am glad we got something that isn’t just a carbon copy of the games
Episode 7 wasn’t bad but it would be a good note to end her story on. Maybe bring her back for a few minutes here or there with a surprise covenant attack or something.
Question for this channel, are spoilers encouraged here?
Never mind I found the correct channel lolz
Soren is my new favorite character
Go into it with an open mind.
I think people are misunderstanding the halo shows success
For one gamepass just straight up gave paramount plus so everyone on gamepass joined in
But also strange new worlds JUST dropped too and that's been anticipated since forever
Free trials wouldn't account for the increase in revenue, however.
People forget
What the sverage American pays like a grand in forgotten subscriptions
Which is insane to think about
Like unrelated to the halo show,
Damn
Also people always bring up marvel and dc when talking about timelines saying they grew up with them but like
New 52 and ultimates kinda sucked
So like.
What.
Every elsewhere story exept for like 2 Halloween specials usually ends up being really bad too
For the love of God don't read dark knights returns sequels
Or the batman beyond comicw
NO
DONT PLEASE
TRUST ME
the horror
The horror
Litteraly probaly the single worst pieces of batman media in existence
That's just like most of the show in general tbh
Yeah, last 2 episodes were pretty interesting though
If anything this episode had better pacing making it stand out more
So far from the way I'm seeing it, yea
Also I'm happy that their like actually new characters
Other than soran who is bad because he isn't
I literally decided to read through this while watching the new episode it’s pretty boring
Chevy Tahoe adventures
Is anyone having a glitch problem with the event mission? it says that I have done them but for some reason its not counting towards interference. I did 2 event mission yet I still remain at 0.
Man this episode is so boring
No spoilers, is it 100% kwan’s story?
Yes
This show is honestly so bad.
Unfortunately it was expected when we just had a full episode without her (aside from the vision). Pretty sure this’ll be the toughest watch for most during this first season.
Hated the 7th Ep
Just for this show? Hell no. If you like other things on paramount then I'd still give it a shot tho.
WHY GOD WHY
I somehow liked the episode. Before everyone jumps on me, here its why: it kind of ends the Soren-Kwan storyline, so next ones are gonna be pure Halo related. We may see them on the future but not a whole episode. I liked the connection to Halo, be so thin as it might be. All the other insurrection stuff is bland and generic but ok, every show has a drag episode where it's clear the least budget was spent. However, I think until now we had two of them. Nevertheless, I have seen worse drag episodes on other series so I can't say it's bad. It's just ok.
Thats actually a fair point, shouldn't have to worry about Kawn popping up again too often.
I’ll assume u spat some bars in there and said some stuff i could nod my head to
Why does John take the helmet off so much?
Probably cant see
It’s a visor
And don’t we even also get the pov of master chief with the helmet on
It’s really clear
I assume the costume design is just that uncomfortable for the actor but that would also be a bunch of bull waste
True
Tbh this seems some actor bs, he wanted to appear on screen as much as possible w/o the helmet. Like what happened with Mandalorian that Pedro Pascal was asking more screentime w/o the helmet.
Its all about opening up as a person. Because Chief is just like us 🙏
Only a perfectly genetically enhanced killing machine who is more blessed than the emoji
Yes this is true. But even before loosing the pallet he still took off the helmet a bit.
But that’s just a lame excuse , the mandalorian showed a near fully helmeted protagonist can become the new sensation within an episode . Why would chief , an established and loved charactor be different
It was a big turnoff to see him w/o the helmet at the end of the dream. Killed the mood, like a girl having dirty feet. It was a big turn off for a fairly ok scene.
Having it off at the beginning ruined that
How else are we going to see those cheeks
You can’t just have it off once, at the beginning of the series, there no mistique , might as well not have it
Ignoring the fact we see less and less of him in armour . First he loses the helemt , then he loses the armour , then he loses his clothes
No one needed to see the front side of his backside
What if he disowns his armor cause unsc bad, and then gets mando gear
That would be a better story no lie
Huuge
Revealing his face at the last episode of the season would be such a memorable moment. Here is just bland and boring. Kills the mood.
Least then he has a reason for taking the helemt off
Chief as he is canonically feels naked without it, uncomfortable
066 made me wonder how he lost his arm
if talking about last ep, might wanna go to the spoiler chat #933834868637454446
If chief doesnt pass gas once after all the rear shots, im angry
For build up purposes it would be great and do wonders
Nah he told John when he was young that the unsc cost him his arm.
We learned this a while ago
If a mod here posts a gif from the show after showing some distaste for it, will CBS copy strike it?
The ones who own halo with paramount
Oh
cool story bro, lol

Went off brand mode
doubt images or gifs are copyrighted, or google images wouldnt be allowed to show any images from the show
Thats what they say until they strike a 3 sec clip on youtube
Perhaps
Cbs should go after google
Agreed, it was quite awful sadly :/
The spartan augmentations were unsuccessful on him and he suffered defects in his arm.
then his skin 😂 (probably)
i guess its hard to act and emote if youre in a helmet so i saw why they did it, the acting is robotic enough through the show without the helmet, also Mandalorian is the worst show ive ever seen in my life
It’s too late to be doing an April fools my dude
But being robotic is the point
Red vs blue is the real series
Fr
So when does Madrigal get glassed?
wonder if they'll ever play the siege of madrigal track
I dont understand the hate if you dont like the show dont watch it lol
Its crushing to really want a halo series that's been teased for years. And get something that doesn't quite appeal to the lore engaged audience
All these rejected script ideas and this is what comes out
I watch it because I am a huge Halo fan, into the lore and all. Previous halo movies ? Loved them all.
This live action alternative universe? Not what I expected, nd although I watch it regardless. I'm not very satisfied with what they attempted to do here
You guys remember that Reach Trailer? Or the Hunt The Truth thing they tried with halo 5?
Hunt the truth was awesome
I didn't even recognized who the narrator was until the second installment. Like... wait a minute😆
It's a little hard to make a tv show for a series where the most important character is defined by being a blank slate but that's why halo's side characters are so memorable imo
I don't know why but studios hate franchises with large amounts of lore
Like all that lore stuff Is WHY people come over.
It's a big reason why game of thrones got popular
A canon halo show could easily run for 7 seasons even if it's bad as long as it was connected to the larger worldbuilding
hi guys
well personally i like the show
even if it's a diff timeline
at least they are lore-accurate mostly
so weird they removed halsey so early tho 🤣
anyone else think the intro is very similar to Legends of Tomorrow?
or to Krypton
or the halo wars trailer
does anyone know were the in game inventory is on halo infinite
The halo wars trailer was great.
indeed
wrong chat? 🤣
What would everyone here rate the latest Kwan episode? Me personally 0/10. That episode was not Halo.
The coolest part was the plasma grenade lmao
I honestly hate this new series and wish they took an entirely different approach to a Halo tv show
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, they first episode should have ended with them crash landing on a Halo then basically just adapt CE’s story for 8ish episodes.
Even if it’s a bit predictable to people that play the games you would still have people talking about how it’s at least accurate to the games lol
I've never completed any halo campaigns, so it's okay for someone like me. Is the blessed one a real character in the halo universe, she seems outta place
6/10, a filler, drag episode. That's it.
You think this episode was above average?
It depends on your average. You have been rating all episodes with 5/10?
Then it's above your average.
For me 6/10 is ok, I don't regret watching it, because I know this is just to drag the story and fill the 9 episodes required. It was entertaining. Not good, not bad, just ok.
What, I received a warning from a bot of this server for one of these comments. How? hahaha
I’ve received a bunch of warnings for saying the A word for master chiefs butt when discussing those episodes
I like how the series will show people getting blown up and exploding into body parts, but we can’t say the A word in this server after they show a bunch of butts
Lmao
Literally everything involving halo is just backwards. TV show sucks, infinite sucks, and the discord server is making sure I don’t say the A word
Remember, Halo's gone from a 'm' rating to 't.' on its way down to pg
For real though. The halo of the past is long gone and now we have this corporate bs
Ohhh ok.
@ancient basin hire me to lead halo lol I’ll do better than any of the clowns currently running everything
Reclaimer is canon (the symbol that's displayed when MC touches the first keystone) but "The Blessed One" is a new construct for the show. mayhap they are calling Reclaimers the Blessed Ones in the show. (my theory).
Reclaimers as a concept appears to be scrapped from this show’s silver timeline and replaced by “Blessed Ones”, which are select few humans that are special snowflakes.
Makee is the human replacement for the Arbiter.
Silver team is the replacement for Blue Team
Makee isn't arbiter lol || especially since the Arbiter only appeared in the first 2 episodes ||
Oh, so the elite minor is confirmed to be the arbiter now? Jolly
Yea at this point I'm wondering if that was just a refrence lol
Ya know. I enjoyed episode 7, for the ending segment alone. Soren was cool as always and kwan showed development which is always nice. It was nice to have it come to an end for the season seemingly.
Kwan Ha slander will not be tolerated
also I love forerunner stuff so this episode gave us some more forerunner lore
it reminded me of the society of the ancients cult from the bungie days
kwan has cool but i wanna see the covenant and the halo rings not innies
Wonder if we’ll get to see some equivalent to the half jaw since we’ve seen arbiter and I think what’s going to be atriox/Tartarus would be nice since the Sangheli in the lore have some very interesting characters
Especially Half jaw I finished reading shadow of intent recently and he’s such a good character
I know for a fact they read the books because half the books is innie stuff lmao
if only they played the games too
the books have a better story than the games
and they did play the games
hell I know pablo played them
I’m just waiting on this episode’s summary on YT and wait for the next episode. Can’t be bothered sitting through an entire episode of Kwan myself to be honest.
Funny story; Bungie didnt want the books written. They wanted the story to be the game and the information booklet you got in CEs case.
Microsoft figured that wouldnt be enough to sell the game and comissioned Eric Nylund to write The Fall of Reach to help get people interested.
Spoiler; this was a good call on their part
If you haven't even watched the episode, why are you here all day complaining about it?
does anyone know what the language that kwan ha speaks is?
Korean I think
english

yes. but i'm trying to place the asiatic ones, assuming it isnt made up.
its a shame the writers didnt care or like the books from looking at soran, the rubble, madrigal and halsey
I never knew Soren was a thing before the show, but I like his character in it. They really did him dirty by putting him with Kwan though
What do mean they didn't care? most of them are kept as they are with some changes to suit the tv show especially Halsey with the only changes is that ||she decided to memory wipe the Spartans instead of telling the truth when she kidnapped them as children ||
Kwan would beat the hell out of Master Chief
My brother have you seen soren
Or perengosky
||Also family is like the only thing Halsey believes in||
Qlso why I'm I even saying this I already listed the changed material
Mark my words, Kwan will mop the floors with Chief should he step wrong
Halsey doesn’t really believe in family lol, she hates her own mother and doesn’t have a good relationship with Miranda in the show and the main canon
thats litteraly why for both of them
the entire spartan program was based around her being the mother figure
she litteraly did all that cloning because she thought it would leave the families more intact
she thought she wouldnt be the mom miranda deserved so she left
the whole hypocrisy around her belief in family is like the core to her entire character
Yo anyone else play halo 4 for the xbox 360
Meh
Not as bad as people say but like not as good either
All the stuff people complain about is not as bad but like half the stuff people compliment is kinda bad
Outside of action sets and outfits
But still some stuff is just..rancid
Just bad and it's not even kwan it's the chief stuff
True but remember every season they produce is a season they deprive from their competetors
Probaly liek Warner bros or netflix
Under the subtitles sometimes it said Korean. And in case you’re curious about this too, when Squirrel was talking with that woman in a different language it said Hungarian
They are with HBO now
When did I complain specifically about last episode?
To be fair the new batman movie was good and same with raised by wolves
I only said I can’t be bothered watching 40min of Kwan because I find her devoid of any interesting characteristics
Netflix would be best
Their video games adaptations are top notch
I found the batman movie pretty neat. Same for the latest spiderman & I’m looking forward to the new Doctor Strange movie
Anyone saw the preview of next episode? Seems like Chief is gonna get some hate... again
I can see why
Honestly I'm just annoyed that chief has become somehow a even more generic soap opera character
I hope it’s better next season. I’m not sure why they changed so much about MC. It feels like for some reason they thought Chief’s demeanor from the video games wouldn’t translate well to tv or something. I also of think he takes his helmet off so much because the actor has a face time requirement in his contract.
Either way, I hope they make some changes next season.
is it just me or is kwan a frustrating character, a little redeemed in e7 but still, not the best
i think chief from the games translates perfectly to tv
hi
I dont see how Kwan is even a little redeemed. She has no plot relevance, has been this uppity little annoyance to everyone around her, and yet thinks she is helping people, when she has nothing nothing yet
Lol the TV show is doing so well they continue to copyright strike reviews
Paramount and other companies liek Disney is in this weird phase where it's the assumption that lore and worldbuilding is secondary to Sci fi franchises even tho I think it's probaly thr single most important aspect.
It's what will bring the general audience. Game of thrones didn't just have a good story it's world was so enormously fleshed out and people obsessed over that aspect until the writers decided to put it in the backend
I expect the halo show to kinda be like discovery, have a controversial start, get better but never really be able to overcome the fact that it's unconnected to anything greater and fizzle out
Bouta do something for a man I never met before
Bro looks like he just got out of a period film set in the early 1940s
About that last part , discovery only got better in s2 them imediately got worse so let’s stray away from Star Trek discovery and Picard
As much as I love the franchise they just do not deliver satisfactory series
damn
at least lower decks and prodigy is good
And strange new worlds
@main narwhal No spoilers here, please.
im confused on the first episode about Master Chief's armor
because everyones seen his helmet right
compared to the mk6 in halo infinite and the other games how come it looks different in the show
same helmet
Looks like the TV show's helmet resembles more the Halo 3 helmet
yeah the dimensions seem sifferent from the game
the lights on the side look small
other than that armor looks great
Started watching the show today because XBL is down. Wow.
Why is there so much nudity
Because it’s not so much a halo show as it is a sci fi show appropriating the ip
Don’t expect it to be trying to be accurate to the games or lore or charactors
Master cheeks
Yeah I'm not a fan lol. There is just so much wrong. And I'm not talking creative differences, I mean it just isn't halo.
Hunters, technically yes. Episode 5 has some good action and it fits the vibe of Halo. The rest so far is generic sci Fi with a Halo mask
The hunter just standing there xd
I can’t imagine they show the tease for a hunter and then never bring it up again
Hello guys, I'm new here. Could any of you explain me how to have permission so that I can chat in channel ask silver a question??? Thanks
That was for a stream or something a while ago that’s no longer happening I believe
While everyone hates the Kwan subplot (as do I), I feel like it had potential to be good if they made Kwan's motives actually make sense
For example: Kwan after realizing the Covenant's presence, has to create an uneasy alliance with the UNSC, namely to avenge her father and clan (She sees him ripped in half with an energy sword, boom, there's an actual motive). Maybe she feels the need to train as a marine, while also having a moral conflict with her past perception of the UNSC as a whole, now that the Covenant is the ultimate threat who wants to wipe out all humanity without compromise.
Only thing I want removed is the "mystic" crap. None of it was ever a part of Halo, either in the games or in the notable stories. Having Kwan, Chief, or Makee have some innate ability due to "genetics" or "prophecy" is just some of the most pathetic set up for us to care about their character.
I'd much rather a story about people being put down and choosing to resist in a large scale intergalactic conflict, then people having "super genetics" that probably will have many Deus Ex Machina moments due to these "powers" at some point, merely to keep the plot going, rather than it making sense.
yeah the genetics thing was extremely weird to me
i much prefer it just having the entirety of human being "blessed ones" or whatever
and im fine if they characterise Chief as a Christ archetype kind of guy, the biblical themings are cool \
but the way the shows doing it is just weird
I learned how to use a karambit
I like the show, I'm excited for the last two episodes
master cheif from the show doesn't feel like the video game chief
I've probably asked this question before but, is it likely that a majority if not all Core Canon characters have silver timeline counterparts ? Meaning in theory Silver TL versions The Ferrets, Fred, Kelly, Linda, Sam, Jorge, Kat, Jun, Buck and Alpha 9, Sarah Palmer, Lasky, Johnson are running around somewhere
Don’t give them more ideas of what else to mess up
I assume blue team never happened, because then why would chief be working with silver (with that in mind, why tf didn't they just have blue instead of silver, it's essentially the same archetypes of characters), but I agree with snowadays, please don't give them more ammunition to butcher this once-great series
After the latest episode, im about done with this show
Since episode 1 I was hoping we’d see less of Kwan, but she keeps coming back.. she’s more persistent than the flood at this rate, but very dull
IKR. Super unlikable and not very relatable character that they keep pushing and developing
Yet nobody asked for it. We want spartans. thats why the show is called Halo...
But they give us angsty teen and generic goon #1 through #20 flexing their modern age guns. At least the Covenant is pretty neat to see during battle scenes
Except we've had like 2 battle scenes in total so far
We had the tentacle scene! That was pretty battle-esc!
But in all fairness; there are still some parts that remind me that I’m still watching Halo. Hearing Cortana, the pretty spiffy looking armor on silver team
at this point im only watching it to hear cortana lol
You are better off listening to Cortana lines on youtube
youre probably right
i do not like Kwan Ha. Goodbye
This looks cool
Why they gotta use paramount+ like idek what that is
discount NetflixHuluAmazonprime
Ok
Question. For anyone Halo book readers, is the show enjoyable? So far, it doesn't feel anything like Halo. The characters are nothing like their novel/game versions. I just want to know if it aligns at all with the game/novel timeline.
Not ragging the show. Just wondering. Barely watched ep 1.
no its not, it doesnt feel like halo, seeing them mess it up is very frustrating
It is not aligned at all. It might take a concept here and there, but changes it far beyond whatever it was originally
You are better off just reading more of the books
Personally I haven’t, in fact, the only Halo content I have consumed so far are the Infinite multiplayer, Fall of Reach, that Star Wars Vision type of thing (I think it was called Halo Legends or something), so I’m very new. And although I can’t say I have a great sense of what Halo is supposed to be like but from even the part of little Halo I’ve seen so far the show hasn’t impressed me at all. If anyone is interested in hearing a newbie’s thoughts, I personally find it bland, boring, and lacking the action I had expected from a series about geneticly and cyberniticly enhanced siper soldiers fightimg various kinds of evil alien. Not to speak of the Madrigal (which to me just seems like a discount version of Jedha from Rogue One) storyline. That Twan or Kwan or whatever Walmart Jyn Erso is called doesn’t interest me at all, Chief and the spartans do, the na-zi guy is just a boring generic bad guy who seems to be evil just because seemingly he simply is and the planet itself (especially the city) just look like rip offs of Tatooine and Jedha. The smuggler is boring, whiny Jyn Erso is boring, so is na-zi guy, so is the whole planet Madrigal in general, save for the opening section of the show where the Covenant attacks the mining settlement. The main Master Chief plot seems boring and draged out and to focussed on drama than the alien asskicking I was hoping for.
Generally, I find the whole experience to be boring, underwhelming and quite frankly a dissapointment.
I do like spartan Kai though
If anyone cares about a noob’s thoughts
I think you were pretty spot on with your take on Episode 1. The current standards for these types of shows that are suppose to bring this amazing and vast universe to the screens, are just horrendously low. As bad as clickbait news articles leading to a site with 20 ads. At least P+ comes with free trials that last a week
Yeah it seems they just try to flash out every little bit of lore right away. They leave very little mystery, very little to imagine. They blatantly showed us the UNSC is pretty evil when they orderd Kwan’s (is that her name? I’m sticking with it regardless), rather than making them seem good, as a shining institution of government and slowly letting us dicover they aren’t. Or the pirate astroid colony, mean Han Solo with the messed up arm just kinda explains everything there is to know about said colony. (If no one minds I’m gonna just keep using Star Wars to compare it to) in A New Hope they never did that, they didn’t spin a long tail about the history of how Tatooine was turned into a sandy dustball, they didn’t explain where the Empire got the resources to build the Deathstar or how long it took them, they didn’t just blatantly explain that the rebel base on Yavin IV was a former temple from some ancient civilization. They left that kinda thing to the viewers imaginantion and that is what made that whole universe so interesting. And even now that that whole universe is far more flashed out than anyone ever thought it would, they still leave things to the imagination.
In Rogue One they never said anything about the history of Jedha, but the giant ancient fallen over jedi statues scattered about it’s sandy surface made the viewer wonder what that history may have been. Withholdinf those little bits of lore makes it feel incomplete, like there is more that universe than we can see in this moment, like there is more to explore. This is, in my opinion at least, an area where the Halo series fails and horribly so
The UNSC is evil, the ring is a weapon, the aliens want it because it’s a weapon, Chief can connect to the pretty rock because he’s a blessed one, bla bla bla, it’s all blatantly told to us right away. Nothing to wonder about, nothing to explore, nothing to that makes me wanna learn about this universe that these characters live in
Also the complete lack of space soldiering in this show about space soldiers is just dumb. Over the course of these past l, what, was it 7 episodes we've seen spartans kicking alien as s twice, twice. The rest has just been Chief being sad, naked, sad and naked and Kwam doing whatever that subplot is about. I'm almost falling asleep watching a show about awesome super soldiers in robot suits crushing evil alien skulls and I'm almost snoaring😴
I made better Halo Mega Bloks stories and battles in my imaginative 6 year old head, than what I see in the halo series
Also an excellent summary👏👏👏
Im mad
death, instantly

have they even mentioned anything regarding ONI? since ONI is typically the ones responsible for the more "disgusting" orders/decisions?
Theory: Covenant boarding ship=CBS
CBS is invading with copy strikes. Are they the covenant?
Heads up UK fans, the Halo TV show will be available on Paramount+ starting June 22nd! 😇
https://twitter.com/ParamountPlusUK/status/1524000549678596103?t=LPsuvOTzQ7S6AXeTS-1d9w&s=09
I feel the Halo series is trying to develop some of the major plotlines from the games but it's taking a very very long time
And seems to be trying to put its own spin on the events
Like different events leading to the same major events in the games if that makes sense? So far very slow paced but I hope it does eventually develop
We can only hope q
Not the specific term I believe. They have also just replaced it with another term like blue and silver team
They should introduce the power rangers
They also have strong limitations on words. Gotta type like ur speaking around a toddler
Let's keep on topic please, this stuff isn't up for discussion
Yeah this getting pretty off the rails. Like im sayin, bring the power rangers in to halo for a solid collab
Would be a crazy season finale
And dont swear
I thought that was halo 5
Oh tru. Could be. Halo show. They shpuld bring back, halo show, in the halo show
Halo series
Most recent episode I give 7.5/10
I’m giving Halo: A Kwan Story a 3/10
or as Angry Joe said....a Kwan out of 10 for episode 7....
Awesome, Stckr. Hopefully you enjoy it.
I'm very much looking forward to it :)
I have to have a Paramount+ subscription to watch this show?
Yes, though some services have it bundled
In the UK, not sure about other places, if you are a Sky Cinema subscriber you should get access to P+ without any extra charges - unless that's changed
Still the same according to the help page, cool.
Upon launch, those of you who are Sky Cinema subscribers will get the bonus of Paramount+ included at no additional cost.
All other Sky customers will be able to subscribe to Paramount+ as an add-on to their account
That episode was garbo
It was good. Better than I expected, which... Well, wasn't a lot, but still.
legally
Lol
Hm
Man I feel bad for Kwan's actress. She probably got the most disliked character in the show next to helmetless Master Cheeks and that likely means a lot of that dislike is going tonbe targeted her through online media while she likely had nothing to do with how the character was written
Its unfortunate, but also I'm fairly sure they are aware of what they're getting into (in terms of script and character description). So it goes both ways
It really doesn’t. For actors a role is generally just a job, they get a role they get attached to every once in a while but generally it’s just work. If fans don’t like that character and take that frustration out on the actor itself in the form online harassment and (not oncommonly) deaththreats because “they ruined the character” while they just did their job it’s reetarded because they didn’t screw up, the writers did
Well the harassment and death threats are horrible and no one should ever get into such a position. There is a distinct different between a character within a show/movie or game and the actor themselves and they should always be kept seperate.
Excatly
Nobody knows who she is so nobody will target her
What days do the new episode come out?
Thursdays
Does anyone where you can stream the halo legends short series
Nevermind, it's on YouTube apparently
Hey is anyone else having problems with the event quest because I did two of them and nothing happened I didn't even get exp for it?
Event still broken lol?
It's broken?
Chief doesnt give a freak about grunts in this show. He’ll blow these aliens to heck. And u know Kwan just does give a shoot about the unsc. They got her fudged up on some real spit. Especially when things have gone to the aftermath of digestion in which releases a mass of collected waste that is no longer necessary to hold
😤
bruh ep 5 has jackels with energy swords?
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I actually have not seen anyone be critical of the actress herself. If anything, I've seen only praise for her
And I'd agree, her acting makes Kawn feel like what she is, an annoying teenager who thinks she is always right
What a delightfully positive change of pacw
People need to learn that if they have a problem with a character dont blame the actor blame the writer
thats probably what the writers were going for
kinda like Gabi from aot where youre supposed to find her annoying
Like I said, I gave yet to see anyone going after the actress herself. Would say its like Palpatine. Evil being thanks to an excellent actor
All the actors are great at what they do. Its the writing, and direction that kill it for most. If the show captured the spirit of halo properly, even with an alternate timeline, the show would slap
Pablo himself is a solid actor, and if chief felt more recognizable, i doubt he would mess it up. Even with the change of voice from the legend himself Steve .
Yerin Ha is doing great acting wise too. Kwan could easily be likable if written better
Twilight situation huh? Great actors, terrible material?
Yup that’s basically it
Sounds about right
i love when the game crashes only during ranked and i get banded wtf
Wrong chat
I'd actually say Riz' actor (Natasha Culzac I think?) is a little awkward.
I didn't like Kai, I thought she overacted a bit but she's grown on me.
The look on Cortana's face while she was watching that was kinda heartbreaking
I felt her pain
Kai rocks
Is this episode about Kwan ?
she does not appear
It’s getting harder and harder to defend this show lol
naw tf was that new episode
It was going decent then it fell off completely
The fact the show needs to be defended at all should speak for itself
Yeah agreed, I liked it at the start despite the hate but now the show has gone downhill for me
Also anyone catch that the City that the unsc is based at is Literally called Reach City.
It'll get easier when you pick up the "I don't need to defend anything i'm enjoying cause taste is a thing" mindset
New York, New York city
Eh but a planet kinda feels weird to name a city after. Imagine Earth City or Mars City. Just feels weird.
I mean, you're not entirely wrong
But is it really something big enough to even take notice to?
Just thought it was funny not really a bad thing in the show.
Ngl the Angry joe thing kinda makes me wanna stop watching the show. I was watching because as for experiencing the world of halo is nice, over all story is eh though. And if someone so offended that they are trying to take down review videos is just doesnt look good overall
Has Angry Joe put out a vid for episode 8?
You're gonna stop watching a show cause of something that has nothing to do with the show itself? (Yeah i'm aware he's getting c-blocked by paramount and all, but it changes nothing of the show itself)
Kai is still my spirit animal.
I'm gonna need some alternate-alternate timeline where Kai got the Cortana treatment ngl.
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Why the ?
Well, yes. If you cant handle criticism you dont deserve views. Copyright abuse is weak move to make as someone creating things for entertainment, people are going to criticize. Its your job not to handle it like a child
I don't know what you meant.
After watching ep. 8, all I can say is: HALO IS FINALLY DEAD AND BURRIED
Because I'm still sleepi
Now i know i alone make no difference but it is what it is
"I want to see Kai getting the Cortana implement instead of Chief"
Better?
Not really the way I see it, but you do you :)
Better
Like, I have nothing against Pablo as Chief. He's a good actor, and he's fine for the role. But when I, a person working on her first book, with no classical training in the art of screenwriting or whatever, can do a better plot than the guys getting paid the big bucks?
Just makes me feel sick if I'm honest.
I WANT to love the show, but it's just not really doing it for me anymore.
Yeah the greatest offense of the show is that the writing seems incredibly lazy.
They're going for the most cookie-cutter by the books sci fi fantasy plots.
Hmmm
No offense but why are you sure you can do better and people would love it?
Again no offense, i'm genuinely curious.