halo-the-series-chat

[dry brook]

Literally a Luke arc

Since Luke was supposedly the last Jedi left by ROTJ, until they made it not

[tough dust]

hello

[green frigate]

Both seasons of Halo are better than that trash

[dry brook]

ROTJ?

[sweet lily]

Return of the Jedi

[sweet lily]

hell naw bro, star wars original trilogy is a masterpiece

[proud fiber]

Let's be real Star Wars has a more interesting universe

But Halo is like good as well.

[sweet lily]

it is but not as good as Star wars like you said

[little anvil]

Had a more interesting universe.
Then the Retconomicon happened.

Also, the inefficencies of all galactic powers and their militiares instantly regulates it to a "mid" series.

Come back to me when strike fighers are in their proper place; picket operations and skirmishing and missile interception.
Get outta here with your "kill a giant space station with space jet fighters cause they dont know what proper CIWS is"

[bitter ginkgo]

Kylo Ren did it better than Master Chief

[green frigate]

I misread. Original Star Wars, yes was great. I saw last Jedi first lol my bad

[unreal pebble]

Episode 8 intro be like

[wide zinc]

the clones are just my favorite type of space soldier in all of media... and also the rebellion already knew the death star has a weakspot

[tough dust]

@silver carbon

[silver carbon]

What?

[little anvil]

Nothing. Homeboy keeps tagging people randomly

[tough dust]

@drifting oak

[misty pivot]

@mighty yew destroy it

[mighty yew]

obliterated

[little anvil]

(Darkest Dungeon voice) Annhilated

[drifting oak]

Yes?

[swift summit]

He jus pings random ppl
dunno what for tho

[tough dust]

@tawdry kestrel

[misty pivot]

@mighty yew kill

[dreamy stirrup]

Please use @weary rune for issues like this.

[heady mica]

got to ask here but is season 2 still going on is is all the shows done with because i always wait until they are all out then watch it all like i did with season 1

[dreamy stirrup]

Yes, all episodes of season 2 are out 🙂

[heady mica]

ok thx i'll add that to next week to watch list , hope it's good

[obtuse minnow]

Well i Watched It already And i enjoyed it. And Now i'm watching season 2 again but now with my friend. Were at episode 6 And Hes enjoying it too.

[wraith plover]

https://x.com/IGN/status/1796187583438840064

A behind the scene book is coming to Dark Horse

[little anvil]

Hidden lore please?

[pallid fulcrum]

Did anymore or someone watched the Halo series from paramount?

[dreamy stirrup]

Yes

Discussion about it is in #halo-the-series-spoiler-chat

[pallid fulcrum]

There's so many chats 😵‍💫

[visual tangle]

You don’t say

[teal plinth]

Twas hot garbage

[toxic warren]

https://twitter.com/HaloGear/status/1798761788147716341

Halo Gear (@HaloGear) on X

Get behind the scenes and explore The Making of @HaloTheSeries with a new book featuring never-before-seen photos and details from Season One. 💫

See @DarkHorseComics for more details or preorder now.

📖 https://t.co/5hnQ7niVN0

Twitter · Jun 6, 2024, 5:00 PM

[wild raft]

Are all series over and done with or is their more? I hope their is more

More, more, and more.

[obtuse minnow]

Noo! I thought it was a season 3 announcement, don't do this to me 😭

[hollow laurel]

when season 3

[wind hatch]

.

[misty pivot]

soon

[wild raft]

I am guessing the last quarter of this year a teaser will pop up some where

[wild raft]

Anxious to see what is next

[jaunty forge]

Have they annouced season 3? I haven't seen anything yet.. or is it going to change/end/reboot since it looks like Paramount+ is being sold? With possibly Sony being a part owner of them.

[dreamy stirrup]

No announcement yet

[lone breach]

The subtitles are on for non-English stuff but why are they on for the English too ? How do I make it only for non-English

[wide zinc]

they tweeted on the 30th last month that they were not done..... maybe hinting towards something

I mean on instagram

[toxic warren]

[ebon carbon]

series is good

[valid bison]

lol

[ebon carbon]

l

[tranquil shard]

Halo show bad

👎

[wild raft]

why

[tranquil shard]

One reason. Master chief.

They absolutely ruined him in the show

Hes nothing like how he actually is

They also shown his face wayy too much

Chief was always known and always will be known for just the armor

[wild raft]

I am still going to watch it

[unreal pebble]

That's a super duper shallow way of looking at it. Honestly, if that was truly all it was, I'd never care.

[wind quest]

The Halo show is good just finished watching season 1 still not a bad show.

[wild raft]

I think they wanted to show off Master Chief

Their context and reasons for doing so

Honestly, the AI upgrade with Cortana was better with helmet off

[tranquil shard]

Theres also the issue of them re-writing chief in general and just making him less of how he was in all of the other depictions

The whole show is written poorly and isn't made for actual halo fans rather just for people who want to watch a sci fi show

[unreal pebble]

I'm criticizing your take.

Not the show's.

[worthy bane]

I'd have to disagree on the whole "it ruined X" take on the show. Yes, it bent canon (but if that's a deal breaker for you, you've got problems with every adaptation).

"How he really is" is a child Soldier. Who was literally raised to only know combat and war. And Halsey/Cortana is a pseudo-incestuous relationship that keeps him "dependent" on a maternal figure. He never gets the chance to grow up and the idea that he was somehow a mature, though brutish, adult even starting with CE betrays the reality of the dynamic between the Spartans and its program management/leadership.

The show did a really honest (albeit embellished) take on the reality of the Spartan program and when you peel back the glory and idolization of Spartans you actually get to see the very real, and very broken, humanity within them. And I'm OK with that.

[tranquil shard]

It bent it way too much

[white hamlet]

Halo

[cedar lagoon]

I like how people waiting for season 3 but on the same time trash talking about them

[obtuse minnow]

well... some wait so they can enioy the show (like me). and some wait just to hate it more and get money from youtube etc...

[proud fiber]

Yes because something is still better than nothing even if it's trash

[somber tangle]

I hate the Halo show, everything about it is terrible, they managed to change everything about every character

[dreamy stirrup]

Thank you for sharing.

[modest nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/dale-walking-dead-i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-gif-3136629546574604277

[worthy bane]

The show isn't bad IMO, but I do wish there was more harmony between eps and seasons... S2 was like "is this an ONI show? Spartan show?"

[fluid swift]

I wish they just took a lot of the story elements and put them in the universe with different characters, not needing to use John in it and doing what the fallout show did and do it's own thing. I would kill for a Human-Covenant war era show, but we ended up with an alternate timeline which I feel like makes the franchise feel even more stagnate than it is (which I feel like is a really big problem right now for halo as a whole)

[median sundial]

i would watch it but if ur expecting a good halo story you will be disappointed

[somber tangle]

If 343 stuck with the lore from the games, I think the show could've been phenomenal if they started off with Reach

[worthy bane]

why the lore from the games and not from the books?

[white hamlet]

Halo

[somber tangle]

Because that’s what drew so many people into the franchise, not saying the lore from the books isn’t good, I love that lore and actually prefer it, but I look at it as a wow factor.

Unless they were able to draw in elements from the books that added new and exciting elements to the story, I stand by that statement just because of the success it had over a long period of time.

[unreal pebble]

The two are not considered seperate by anyone other than insecure games-only fans.

[somber tangle]

What’re you trying to say lmao? the books came after the games, all I was getting at is if they did a remake of the series, it’d be great to see some of the highlights from the books

[misty pivot]

no the books came before the games

true real certified halo fans know that halo is a book series with games that came after

[somber tangle]

Less than a month before the game

[misty pivot]

before is still before

[wraith shell]

I'm slowly reading through the books

[worthy bane]

As you can tell from the follow-on discussion after my (rhetorical) question: "lore" that only refers to the original, legacy release games is not only incomplete, but IMHO gatekeeping. And given the understated problems with how Cortana+Chief represents a perpetuated psychological abuse from Halsey, it's really hard to hate the Paramount+ show, especially Season 1, that emphasized the brokenness of Spartans prior to removing their inhibitors

[granite jolt]

Halo

[tawdry kestrel]

They've could've named it Halo players series... everyone gets their own spartan armor and joins the actions

[tawdry kestrel]

Books add to the lore, but if they contradict the games, the games take priority, right?

Halo players series that would've been perfect tv series to watch... all the halo players like all of us on these shows for fun I would imagine it myself.

[unreal pebble]

No. They both just tend to overlap in a clumsy and awkward way because 343 is relatively noncommittal.

Despite claims to the contrary, they don't retcon very much that's been set in stone (in fact, Bungie's day saw more retcons, compared to 343's relatively tiny count)

[tribal copper]

it was hekkin amazing. i'm left feeling empty without season 3

[obtuse minnow]

I'm Still waiting for season 3 announcement... 😭

[worthy bane]

Be careful denying their revisionism. It's basically unironic Convanent-level fanaticism at this point.

[unreal pebble]

🙄

[tribal copper]

[pulsar saffron]

There's not enough action for me to REALLY enjoy the first season, but the love interest was great because to have John be interested in someone who isn't a hardcore Spartan 2 through 5 is so refreshing

[sweet lily]

fr

[tawdry kestrel]

Lol I put "oh god the show has a dedicated section" and it got deleted. Like cmon brah I didn't even make any direct comments about the show etc. Only rule I can see that might explain it's deletion is "do not fan the flames of discontent" but I see way more harsh comments in this thread than my milktoast comment from yesterday

But while I'm here, the show is a travesty. The very first thing they do is take off Chiefs helmet (almost like they intentionally sent a message to OG Halo people "this aint for you, buddy"). It's like someone with sub-zero respect of the source material just said "screw you" to the entire identity of chief, and I refused to watch it from that point on. From what I gather of the YouTube channels I watch that cover the series, sure enough they went further with the non-Halo stuff in a Halo show. Making chief look weak (because we're not allowed to have strong male characters anymore) and all the other nonsense. I don't care what modern Halo players who were still in nappies when the first game was made think, that show is not Halo.

[toxic warren]

There was more to it and it was entirely unnecessary. You're welcome to contact modmail to discuss it further.

It's fine to dislike the show.But let's keep it civil and constructive please. There are plenty of Halo fans who have been playing since CE and enjoyed it, along with people that have discovered enjoyment of both old and new games due to the show

[tribal copper]

LOL @ taking off helmet and "weak" master chief. What's your definition of weak? Taking on 200 elites, brutes with grav hammers, and the arbiter? Huh.

[near solar]

[near solar]

Thank you for defending me.

[tawdry kestrel]

The most effort I can summon in reply to this is watch Reapers reviews on YT for the show

[surreal heron]

didnt watch the show at all didnt okay the games either except for intinite online should i watch the show

[toxic warren]

I'd say it's worth giving it a go. You may find you like it, or you may not.

[chrome stone]

[south knot]

Wort wort wort

[tribal copper]

[wild raft]

Keep in mind it is a "bold new take" on the story

[surreal heron]

i didnt play the game so i wouldnt know the story to begin with

[wild raft]

If the TV episodes are not interesting to you. Read the books

[still olive]

Tv show is what got me interested in the game. Never played but am really enjoying the books.

[faint thorn]

that is quite intresting

[hollow laurel]

season 3 when

[weary phoenix]

soon hopefully

season 2 was pretty good

most of the people hating the show did not watch it from what I've seen

season 1 wasn't the best but I think season 2 made up for it a lot

[somber tangle]

I only had the patience for the first two episodes of the second episode because of how much the inaccurate lore pissed me off

[weary phoenix]

it's a different universe

lore is gonna be different, deal with it

[somber tangle]

One that I can’t stand

The lore should be based of what made the franchise successful

[weary phoenix]

I agree but it isn't

and its not bad, it's just different

[rotund leaf]

Nothing made for the halo community is really comunity drivenin

Everything 343 puts out has been less then expected

[tawdry kestrel]

No, it's bad. The show is called Halo, it's not a different universe or whatever that means. You call it Halo, it's supposed to be Halo. Just like if you call something Star Wars, Star Trek, Telly Tubbies.... if you wanna make something different, then call it something else. If the writers cant or wont do that all I can think in response is the phrase "Evil doesn't create, only corrupt and destroy" I don't want people writing material for something they despise the source material of.

[toxic warren]

Nobody writing for the show despises the source material, not sure where you got that from.

[tawdry kestrel]

Its obvious by watching the show

[toxic warren]

They explained their reasoning for using a different timeline, it has nothing to do with hating the storyline/source material. You can have that as your opinion, but it's absolutely not factual

[bitter ginkgo]

What is factual is the product before our eyes

[tawdry kestrel]

I have a wall of text ill put when i have time to finish it

[misty pivot]

oh joy

[tawdry kestrel]

Nah lol one of the reasons i need 15 min free to make a 2 min read is to stay in the servers decency moderating

[bitter ginkgo]

Relatable

[oak tide]

Y is this a channel 😔

[toxic warren]

To talk about the TV show

[tawdry kestrel]

I've put it into the spoilers chat. Be warned, it contains spoilers on good quality Halo story telling, otherwise known as Bungie's Halo.

[misty pivot]

quality storytelling
bungo
lol

[karmic cipher]

I wont @ you bc I understand the need for a distance as a content developer or someone in the employ of developers to help keep an ear to the community, however engaging with a member from the audience you represent with venom and stone wall behavior (if im using that correctly, mostly the over citation of a basic concept already established community wide as a tool to expose ignorance or lack of understanding) is just not really cool to us. What we see in our leaders is akin to looking up to an older sibling, and we need that attitude towards us, the fans, the people who literally made it possible for you to continue to produce Halo and content from the umbrella. We need you guys to say “we hear you, we are going to do better” not to shoot down an idea or concept or opinion of someone in your audience. Your fan base is not dumb or stupid, we understand what you are doing when you say “They explaines their reasoning for using a different timeline, it has nothing to do with hating the storyline/source material. You can have that as your opinion, but it's absolutely not factual.” This is a contradictory statement that shows your disheartenment towards your community which DOES support you and Microsoft. Ban me, mute me, or dont. I just want to have fun with Halo again. All of us do.

[toxic warren]

Just in case it's not clear, I don't work for 343, Xbox or Microsoft

I volunteer here

[karmic cipher]

I do understand this and again I stated as such

Im not attacking but understand your importance here.

Thats all.

[toxic warren]

I'm not sure what in this paragraph is contradictory? Unless you have some actual evidence where they have said "we hate the source material, that's why we went this route", then no, it's not factual and should not be presented as such.
Part of my job here is to prevent the spread of misinformation and lead and promote constructive discussion. Can't have that with people which are intentionally being disingenuous

[karmic cipher]

I understand you maybe weren’t understanding what exactly I was saying was contradictory which is my bad. My point on your contradiction was that you essentially said ‘yes this is your opinion, I see your opinion, and its wrong.’ While I understand it is your job to stop misinformation I agree, it dont believe its your place to tell someone directly that their opinion is not based on fact or reality. You have a larger role here than the Halo Series chat. This is my point. The contradiction is the behavior, not a word, a role. You are here to be a way of expressing our stuff to 343. If I’m incorrect in this than anyone can have a pink name tag and have admin, but this is not the case for every obvious reasons. We both understand this. My point is that while yes, you should stop hate and misinformation when you can, you shouldn’t say someones opinion on something they consumed and are passionate about as wrong. To be fair, there are many interviews and articles with producers, writers, and showrunners, that all highlight a key component which was the change in story direction into something they like. This can be construed many ways. Like its not my place to decide, it isnt yours either. Again Im not here to attack, just foster a more positive attitude about our favorite franchise.

I would provide these articles however this goes against ToS for the server and this channel is not the place for it, and to be frank, thats not what either of us want with our time.

[toxic warren]

I am in no way here to be a go between the community and 343

I manage the server, bots and moderation staff

I am going to call out misinformation as I see it

Anyways, back on top now

[karmic cipher]

So after all that all you can say is that your role is essentially cosmetic?

Look I respect you but this is where a lot of my frustration comes from. Theres no address to the actual issue. It’s just people who have roles and people who dont which is very sad. Enjoy your time.

Also you do not define misinformation for this community since you are simply an admin of bots and roles. You are like all of us, your name is just pink and you can promote people within the server. You’re just a fan, nothing to do with any development or insight. So you do not get to establish in this debate what is and is not misinformation as you are not the holder of the platform or information you claim to protect.

Until you get that position at 343 you do not get to define anything for us.

[toxic warren]

I can absolutely define misinformation on this server

[karmic cipher]

By saying so in a chat?

Interesting.

I will no longer engage this.

So my message gets deleted when I offer a counter point? Ok.

[toxic warren]

We don't allow political discussion here

[spring grotto]

For server moderation concerns, please send a direct message to @weary rune.

[royal dock]

Oh my god stop arguing.

[charred vine]

Im surprised in the first episode of season 1 an elite killed a bunch of unarmed civvies

Figured they would have honor

[unreal pebble]

That is honor for the Sangheili.

Their honor is not human honor, it is Sangheili honor.

[sly escarp]

Isn't honor based on combat or something
Or maybe it's because of a different timeline?

[charred vine]

I thought i read somewhere the arbiter Vel let a barracks of unarmed Marines to arm themselves before he attacked them. And in reach, an elite did not attack Jorge when he held a civvie in his arms

[unreal pebble]

They actively attempted to lop off Jorge's head before getting distracted by Nobles 1, 2, and 6. They were also responsible for the dead scientist 6 searched.

Additionally, what Thel did was spawn camp, not respectfully allow his opponent to get ready.

Most elites saw prosecution of their duties as honorable, and those duties included butchering humans without thought of what the humans did when they weren't getting slaughtered.

[unreal pebble]

Nope. People just forget that Sangheili warriors under the Covenant regime spent about 25 years barely questioning their orders to butcher (to them) alien civilians and that characters like Thel were by far the exception, not the rule.

A lot of the perception is warped because people don't really understand that no matter how 'nice' Thel and the Swords are, the Sangheili aren't a monoculture, and Thel is an exception to how Elites function, not the rule.

His reforms were intensely unpopular-it's the entire reason Jul's Covenant exists.

As for the show Covenant Elites, same basic premise. Little honor in slaughter itself, but it's a job that earns honor to prosecute.

[misty pivot]

or many other splinter factions

[sly escarp]

Oooh thanks for explaining it

[charred vine]

Huh ok

[proud fiber]

Sangheli honor seems very uncivilised

[tawdry kestrel]

Though I agree, the argument can always be made that who are we to judge what a sangheli judges honorable, they could theoretically feel the same way about our view

[proud fiber]

That's like saying a culture that idolises murder is understandable because it's foreign.
You want to know what differentiates us from animals?
We have objective morality

The reason why star trek is great is how humanity was one the main reasons the federation was founded because our values were superior

[tawdry kestrel]

Again I agree, I’ve just had this same argument before (though not about Halo), and the guy just went in circles about why everybody naturally thinks their ethics are superior and for that reason imposing one group’s values on another’s doesn’t always work

[unreal pebble]

We literally do not have objective morality as displayed by the current various political and legal statuses of the planet, let alone the united states.

[hollow laurel]

hello guys

season 3 when

[proud fiber]

Soon, or never

[fresh magnet]

The halo series is a sin

[river fulcrum]

Nuh uh

[vestal sundial]

Uh hu

[fresh magnet]

What is you fav halo game

[river fulcrum]

Infinite

[toxic warren]

Let's keep on topic please , this channel is for discussing the TV show

[median sundial]

ngl is the show did adapt the games more closely i feel general gamer audience would have carried the series

i dont like the show, i know others do and that's fine

but if the show was done a tad different, and just felt a bit more halo, it wouldn't have such a bad PR rep

but i disagree with the notion that this series was entirely 343's doing

i dislike a lot of what 343 has done, and i liked a lot, but there is much more red tape for a tv show then 343 couldn't have influenced.

hot take: the show would have probs been way better if it was written by 343 entirely 😄

[frosty arch]

Last of us had dev teams part of show and that series is great. 343 or Microsoft should have gone to hbo instead of paramount imo.

[proud fiber]

^

[cedar lagoon]

The second season of the series became somewhat dark, not like the first season

[winged horizon]

I’m way too scared to watch the halo TV show because it looks so bad I’ll die

[river fulcrum]

MC takes his Helmet off

[winged horizon]

My heart Has been destroyed

[river fulcrum]

I think Master Chief has Intercourse(Damn you filter) but I’m not sure

[timid gyro]

they call it master cheeks for a reason

[proud fiber]

Yeah he did lol. That's the only thing Jimmy Rings has over his main timeline counterpart. Jimmy Rings managed to get a real gf

[tawdry kestrel]

Hey, a rotten apple can be the most beautiful thing on the surface. The test is when you bite deep enough.

[tawdry kestrel]

I wouldn't allow a show like that to affect your love for Halo in any way, because it's not Halo. None of the people who wrote and created Halo in the first place are part of the team making that show. You wouldn't take a book seriously when it's not written by the franchises author and instead just some rando who didn't care about the source material.

have a read of this - "The TV series was developed by Kyle Killen and Steven Kane, who created an original storyline that diverges significantly from the game's narrative. Kane has mentioned that the writing team did not look at or reference the original games in crafting the series, focusing instead on developing the characters and world in their own way."

They made a show called Halo without even looking at the original material. That is why I either see people who enjoy that show as casuals who aren't invested in Halo (and that is not their fault) or who just don't give a damn about a 20+ y/o fictional series with millions of fans being so badly disrespected.

Even asking ChatGPT what it reckons on the subject comes back with this

"Yes, it is valid to say that the show deviates significantly from the original material and, in that sense, might be considered not truly representative of the Halo franchise as fans of the games know it. The show's creators intentionally chose to create a narrative that diverges from the established game lore, focusing on developing new storylines and character arcs rather than strictly adhering to the source material​"

It's ChatGPT so it always goes soft with its words. The question was "is it valid to say that show is not actually Halo"

[tawdry kestrel]

yeah because super soldiers bred from 4-5 years old for war are good candidates for love island

[winged horizon]

Agreed

[tawdry kestrel]

Also, remember that the closest thing to an emotional decision Chief makes in the Bungie series is rescuing Cortana in Halo 3. And that was primarily motivated by Cortana holding important knowledge to stop the flood. Bungie wrote in brilliantly the emotional aspect of that rescue, despite the fact it was strategically a sound thing to do

I'm kinda done with halo now especially since Microsoft's new command from above is you need to work with a DEI company like their partners at Sweet Baby Inc....freak that

I refuse to contribute money or time to a game worked on by those pricks

Or a company that demands you use dei consultants

Agreed, I stopped hoping 343/microsoft and now paramount would ever try to do Halo right a long time ago. Only thing I play now is Reach on the PC, as I've always been a PC gamer and my Xbox's only ever had Halo. So I consider having Reach on PC as a small gift, given how long I waited to have it

Btw, I really doubt that sentence with the word ending in icks is gonna stay lol, censoring is stiff on this discord

And I didn't know that but it doesn't surprise me about the dei stuff. Woke crap is everywhere today. Society is beginning to realise how poisonous it is, especially for kids.. albiet slowly

[unreal pebble]

[unreal pebble]

I don't think I've ever actually met someone who said crap like this who wasn't caustic around children.

[toxic warren]

The people that created Halo haven't been involved with the franchise for over a decade at this point. 343 had people directly involved, including some that used to work at Bungie.

The quote about not looking at the reference material is also incorrect and was clarified

[unreal pebble]

Like, absolutely insane to be angry people are telling your kids to actually accept other people just getting along in life.

[toxic warren]

https://twitter.com/mrstevenkane/status/1506421683841757189

Steven Kane (@mrstevenkane) on X

@Variety Headlines are fun, but here’s what I really said: To make the Halo TV series, we started from the game, and then we made the pilgrimage to 343 to study the entire canon, so that we could bring you the FULL Halo experience! #HaloTheSeries

Twitter · Mar 23, 2022, 12:04 AM

[timid gyro]

they're poisoning our kids! we need the ten commandments displayed the classroom right now! woof

[proud fiber]

They should have continued from the game tbh.
At least Ella Purnel played Fallout to prepare herself for the role.
Jimmy Rings actor? He probably hates the game

[unreal pebble]

It's more of a whistle than a woof so long as we're mentioning dogs.

[steady bough]

You don’t need to be a super fan to do something well, tbf.

Andor’s main show runner doesn’ like Star Wars, after all, yet it’s one of the best SW productions we’ve gotten in years.

[proud fiber]

Master Chief would be smarter than to remove his helmet Infront of an insurrectionist

[timid gyro]

it's my bigger oof

[unreal pebble]

Aye

[proud fiber]

Yes because it didn't break fundamental lore and it's canon. Also because it didn't have Jedi and all that.

The show is okay as sci fi but not as a Halo show

[timid gyro]

meh, actors can do fine even if they don't like something. I doubt most read the books that got made into movies.

[steady bough]

No it’s pretty middling science fiction, lol.

But the creators being Halo fans wouldn’t have fixed those issues.

[unreal pebble]

I've seen what Halo fans make. I'm not convinced a so-called superfan would do an amazing job depending on your definition.

[proud fiber]

They would d have fixed it by not including half the season of being the adventures of Kwan Ha

[unreal pebble]

According to my definition it'd never get made, be ruinously overbudget, and get largely panned because of how complicated the plot would be.

[steady bough]

Most fans wouldn’t do a good job, yeah, because most fans of any medium usually aren’t actually anything more than casual fans.

[proud fiber]

I have seen and they are so much better

[unreal pebble]

Generally most people I see calling themselves a 'superfan' of Halo are people whose taste in the franchise starts and ends with one of these goobers.

[steady bough]

“Superfan” with Halo also has a lot of baggage… Because “superfan” could mean:

a fan of the games only.
a fan of the universe only
a fan of the multiplayer only

Among others.

And none of them are eye to eye.

[unreal pebble]

Oh? Which, pray tell, have you seen? Halofollower, maker of the 'swelled chest and poorly edited mocap' animations?

[proud fiber]

A 30 second short film by Corridor Crew is better than the Halo series

[unreal pebble]

Most Halo animations beyond SODAZ (Which, frankly, his is good but experimental as hell compared to his masterpiece of a Fallout flick) are generally garbage.

Or super short and sweet, being more of a thought experiment than anything else.

[steady bough]

The only case of a fan doing something that does the universe they love justice I can think of is Astartes, but it bucks most of the trends of that universe.

[unreal pebble]

And god, I wish the fans of this franchise with the talent to make videos would do more than retread Reach, ODSTs, or IIs.

[unreal pebble]

Mechwarrior Living Legends, I'd say, but that's less about the universe and more about making a great Mechwarrior PvP game.

And even then its designers that got passed the torch are ridiculously cantankarous.

[steady bough]

I mean specifically with regards to watchable media, not a game.

[unreal pebble]

Ah. In that case, yeah, Astartes is a diamond in a field of raw sewage.

[timid gyro]

30 seconds versus an entire season that also has to appeal to an audience that never played halo are on opposite ends of the universe.

[unreal pebble]

I'd argue SODAZ' Fallout NV prequel thing is on an appreciable level of quality in comparison. It's at the very least a bronze medal in terms of ridiculously adept adaptations.

[proud fiber]

Idc at this point just make a live action Kilo 5 movie

[unreal pebble]

About like

What, though. They don't really do anything.

[steady bough]

Yup.

99.9% of all fan animations, stories, etc, are all garbage.

It’s not technically their fault, but a ton of people have a chip on their shoulder and think they can do better, but they themselves aren’t actually any better, they might be worse.

[unreal pebble]

The team as we know it basically only existed between Rookie joining the team and Rookie dying, barring when they all got turned into IVs and Mickey got reavowed.

[unreal pebble]

The venn diagram between 'requisite skill' and 'insane passion' might as well be two seperate circles most of the time.

[proud fiber]

That's the problem. I have never played Fallout at all before watching the show and the series make me play the game.
And fallout sales were off the roof. Did that happen to Halo?
No

[mighty yew]

Actually it did

player numbers spiked for a good while

[unreal pebble]

It problably helps that the community response to the show wasn't as caustic as Halo's was.

Because the Halo fanbase is a bucket of boiling crabs.

We lost one of the few good community heads specifically because they got harassed for trying to give the show a fair shake.

[proud fiber]

We can all agree it's objectively not even a good Halo show. It's okay I guess but not a Halo show.
Number 1: Master Chief has a girlfriend
Number 2: They don't have chips blocking their emotions
Number 3: Kwan Ha

[bitter ginkgo]

Maybe they should have given a play through a fair shake. Then the actor wouldn’t have to come out and say that a scene in which someone cannot consent was a mistake

[proud fiber]

Though I can say I don't mind the actor playing Keyes

[mighty yew]

We can all agree it's objectively not even a good Halo show.

https://tenor.com/view/disagre-disagree-cat-cats-kitten-gif-26353918

[proud fiber]

Oh yeah you love having the majority of the season following some goofy Jimmy Rings on his way to choke Ackerson.
Pretty sure in S2 he's only in armor for 3 episodes

[unreal pebble]

No, we can't, because that's a subjective opinion.

Where do you get off pretending you're the authority of what's objective?

[proud fiber]

30 years of Indoctrination gone because Jimmy Rings took out the pill from his butt

Tell me that isn't stupid

[bitter ginkgo]

What isn’t

[steady bough]

Case in point, that November Black fan film claimed to be lore accurate using proper UNSC protocols, including the titular one.

It’s from a fan wiki. I helped get them in contact with the one who made the wiki article and the head admin to explain things.

It was… a situation, lol

[mighty yew]

counterpoint
Halo 4: 30 years of indoctrination gone because Cortana doesnt like Del Rio

you have the same issue there?

He doesn't hate the UNSC

[steady bough]

I do

[mighty yew]

he questions the leadership

as a good soldier does

and he's right

[steady bough]

But I’m a lore junkie, so I’m gonna nitpick

[unreal pebble]

UBSC?

[proud fiber]

Btw in S2 he killed a few humans
UNSC humans

[steady bough]

My Typo. UNSC*

[mighty yew]

when lol

[proud fiber]

On the snowy episode he kills all the security fellas

[mighty yew]

if you mean the guys he non-lethally made combat ineffective, then no, he doesnt kill anyone

[steady bough]

Ehhhh, both had good points. H4 overall has a lot of issues in that sense. But I digress.

[bitter ginkgo]

It’s in between being beaten up scenes

[proud fiber]

To be fair that short haired security lady kinda pissed me off

[unreal pebble]

Oh no. The supersoldier meant for killing humans killed humans that were aggressive to him. Oh god, how could he. How could my Chief, the child soldier made from a young age to be an assassin and supersoldier meant to silence political threats in the human sphere, possibly kill other humans, ever, at all? Oh god, I'm gonna vomit, they ruined canon.

[mighty yew]

Even when he did shoot people it was in the legs or shoulders, not in any lethal spot

check again if you dont believe me

[proud fiber]

Dude fought and defeated Elites using his bare hands. That is one of the only things I enjoyed

[bitter ginkgo]

Where are the grunts?

Where is the warthog from season one?

[proud fiber]

Grunts appeared in the last episode of Season 1

[unreal pebble]

Didn't have a reason to use the Warthog all the damn time I'd assume.

[proud fiber]

Idk man they don't question killing insurgents and stuff. Even in the books they accepted their kidnapping and indoctrination

[proud fiber]

Okay

[steady bough]

That’s not the same thing.

[mighty yew]

In the books John killed an ODST and permanently maimed 2 others

[proud fiber]

Is it 14 year old John?

[steady bough]

He also eliminates, but doesn’t kill, numerous ODST’s when testing the Mark V, and notes the only reason he didn’t kill them was because they were needed to fight the Covenant. But he could have easily killed them all.

He has absolutely no issues with killing humans.

[bitter ginkgo]

Watching a future military lamer than our current military is ultra depressing

[unreal pebble]

It would not have surprised me in the slightest if Chief, in a timeline where the Covenant never happened, would be sent off the leash to kill UNSC troops.

[steady bough]

It’s unnecessary death that he doesn’t like.

[unreal pebble]

What are you, Russian?

US Military's the strongest fighting force on the damn planet, so I got no idea what you're yapping about if you're from the states.

[proud fiber]

Must be a crappy military if you need to kill your own

[bitter ginkgo]

Yeah and they wouldn’t make the dumb decisions they did in the show

[unreal pebble]

Yes, that is generally how organizations with agendas operate.

[steady bough]

Probably against CMA units, really.

(Who technically became the UNSC in canon so your point stands)

[unreal pebble]

Especially ones that needed to fabricate a reason to justify the Spartan IIs in the first place when they were already handing the rebels their rear on a silver platter. (God I love context)

Because ONI's doctrine was control of the Colonies. They didn't want to make the situation better.

UNSC/CMA unit starts to go 'wait a second, what?' and turns on the UEG? Pop the Colonel's head with a Spartan team.

[steady bough]

I wouldn’t necessarily say they fabricated the situation. They just took the worst possible scenario and ran with it.

[bitter ginkgo]

It all seems so petty when Covenant are glassing planets

[unreal pebble]

Everything seems petty in the face of existential threats, that's the point.

[bitter ginkgo]

Infighting is more important than Madrigal

[unreal pebble]

I mean, they did lead Halsey along to get her on their side for the program. I meant more fabricated the conditions that led Halsey to her conclusion via number fudging.

[proud fiber]

UNSC are kind of baddies. But they are based baddies

[steady bough]

She tested Carver’s model herself, he wasn’t really ONI.

Considering everything going on aT the time I can see how a predictive model would reach his conclusions.

Even if they were wrong.

[unreal pebble]

... Come to think of it, wonder if she'd ever be able to make the conclusion she was wrong.

Or if she'd just gaslight herself to her dying breath.

[steady bough]

Worse rebel attacks happened in canon than anything we see occur in the show.

[proud fiber]

Doesn't Halsey feel bad for kidnapping children. She didn't even have to make the clones

[steady bough]

No one seems to ever acknowledge Mamore’s rebellion in 2536…

[unreal pebble]

Oh, the time where rebels caused about 10 million casualties?

(2 mill kills, 8 mill injuries)

[bitter ginkgo]

Halsey is literally Obi Wan

[unreal pebble]

Oh Wait

You mean the Alpha Company thing

[steady bough]

No, the time they sent an entire Spartan III company to deal with a military coup.

Yeah.

[unreal pebble]

Which apparently still wasn't solved because B312 was still fighting rebels there

In 2552

[steady bough]

The show hasn’t had anything even remotely like that with its Insurrectionists.

[unreal pebble]

Huh. Nora-098. Wonder if that's her canon designation too.

[tawdry kestrel]

Yeah my taste for spartan armour begins with Halo 1 and ends with Reach. Same as my taste for Halo. Take a guess what else ended with Reach... oh yeah, the company that actually made the franchise in the first place hmmm

I have little to no investment in arguing over comparing Bungie's halo aesthetics to 343i's because the answer is so obvious to anyone looking at a picture comparing the two, but I will point out the major flaw with 343i's spartan armor is no sane military industrial complex would ever even consider going through the pains of producing the kinds of angles and funky donkey braying sound lines etc halo 4 onwards has

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/6/66/Spartan_IV.png/revision/latest?cb=20120613220400

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/a/ac/Ih_spartan_portrait04.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20120323044935

I'm not attempting to imply if Bungie had continued we would have seen a retention of realism to the armour, but not much point when we don't and won't get that

Like just take a look at this one... I can't even think of an individual example to point out above the others, the whole armor is just ridiculous https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/4/49/H5G_Render_Vale-Close.png/revision/latest?cb=20150615212836

I managed to think of one lol. Imagine trying to carry a wounded fellow soldier over your shoulder with that pointless spike

The central part of the chest armor (where soldiers are trained to aim for as its the biggest target) is where it is weakest. What the actual -

What about those massive arches that extend a couple of nautical miles above the shoulder? They would turn a glancing blow into a hit before they protect against any hit that was gonna get the body

And if you wanna compare a Bungie shoulder piece that sticks upwards, the Commando shoulder piece. Look it up as I couldn't find a standalone image link that wasnt a mile long. That shoulder piece actually protects from the side, and includes the neck. Those stupid arches on that 4's armor have the shoulder joint and sides completely exposed so what actual direction are they supposed to provide protection from? None as the armour was not designed with any practical use in mind.

and lol I said I have little to no investement then followed with like 5 comparisons hahaha. It's a Sunday aight

In regards to the discussion regarding the insurrectionists, those guys were ok using dirty bombs on civ populations, They weren't exactly your average US of A trying to get independence. There's a reason Spartan 2's were created to fight them

[unreal pebble]

"I have little to no investment"

Considering how much you yap, I don't believe you.

Pretty common for your type though.

[tawdry kestrel]

Hmm yes just nitpick on single thing i said and ignore all the points made, pretty common for your type though.

[surreal siren]

is there gonna be a s3

[toxic warren]

Hasn't been announced yet, but I'm hopeful

[obtuse minnow]

All I need Now Is: full list of soundtracks from both seasons And season 3 announcement 😄😭

[surreal siren]

ohh bet

[misty pivot]

oh you're one of those "people"

[proud fiber]

Halo is like the least wokest game out there

[steady bough]

The game is more woke (ugh) than the universe, really, if we count all the coatings, visors, Twitter posts, etc.

Halo’s overall been very respectful of including LGBT type characters in its fiction. When they’re there, it’s only ever a facet of their character, barely a footnote. It doesn’t feel like a major aspect forced onto them nor does it feel like an afterthought. It’s just kind of there, which, honestly, is how it should be, IMO, for anything.

[unreal pebble]

The thing is that 'woke' is literally just existing in anything for these people. It's inherently claiming poison from an illogical partisan position that serves as a smokescreen for when you want to say you're terrified of people who look and think differently than you do (see the rant about DEI).

Pointing out the nature of the rantings of someone too cowardly to say they're a coward aside in the case of 'woke' aside though, absolutely; Halo's honestly frustratingly cagey about representation outside of race. AFAIK there isn't actually any characters who are transgender, and there's only two gay couples I know of.

[steady bough]

Mhm, very true.

I’ve always been of the opinion that forcing it into something to try and send a message, or push a narrative often has the opposite effect, in that it’s done just for the sake of doing it with no substance to it.

For example I like Melissa Mckay because she’s a hard-as-nails ODST officer… who happens to be a woman, not because she’s a woman who happens to be an ODST officer.

The same is true of say, FeliCa Sanderson, where she’s an ODST who happens to be (to avoid a potential auto-warning) “not straight”, but it’s not a major aspect of who she is, it’s just another facet.

And overall Halo just never really has time or the space to really explore those relationships or traits, straight or otherwise. not exploring it, IMO, is better than shoving it in places where it doesn’t belong.

That’s true of anything, though.

[unreal pebble]

I do kind of wish it was a wee bit more... Not necessarily up front, but 'around'. In a sense.

Like, IRL, the Transgender ban the US Military had a few years back was actually incredibly divisive in the service for a reason, particularly in the Air Force-which had and still has a gamut of extremely skilled pilots who happen to be Transgender, some of which had been serving before the demise of DADT, just not openly.

In 2560, I'd figure that there'd be at least one notable in some regard, not that they'd, say, have a flag on their armor, but that it'd be a thing even if it had to be stated out of universe.

Like, the Military, as mentioned, as in any Military actually worth a damn, is a naturally pragmatic organization. Realizing you were born with the wrong characteristics, so to speak, is handled as a task like any other; Affirming care is the most effective solution, so you get affirming care.

Source; Literally going through it at this moment.

Like, Occam's razor would state that they exist, it's just unmentioned due to being irrelevant in the scheme of Halo. But the lack of actual in universe discussion would hypothetically indicate the opposite to someone less observant of best practices.

[steady bough]

I say we need more non-Spartan perspectives to really explore that.

Because I’ll be honest, no II or III should have those traits, not necessarily because they don’t have those inclinations or what have you, but because they just don’t care and they just don’t have time to dwell on it.

IV’s or ORION’s though can definitely, but yeah, I’ll be a stick in the mud about the II’s and III’s and say their environment and upbringing just would I allow for those types of explorations and truths.

[unreal pebble]

Oh, yeah, absolutely-no way in hell would it be a II or a III. Getting force fed military tactics and strategy kinda blunts the whole 'finding yourself' process.

[steady bough]

I disagree there.

Though I get what you mean.

It’s a slippery slope though I will grant. Because someone has to be first, and if you highlight them then you cause a problem by, well, making them stand out, even if the intention is to - not - do that, lol.

It has to be done organically. But I just don’t know that Halo can. not with the framing it often uses.

Though, really, not everything needs to comment on those facets of life, either.

[unreal pebble]

Oh, no, they absolutely don't need to. I'm not saying that it really needs to happen because politics, or whatever.

It's just sometimes nice to get pandered to a little, as a treat.

[steady bough]

Yeah, I get you. And that’s why I think it’s so difficult to incorporate, because it’s sadly so political now.

Well, at least among certain crowds.

[unreal pebble]

Really shouldn't be. People's right to autonomy and body should be sacrosanct, not a pissing match for political faux-pundits.

[steady bough]

Interestingly though Sci-Fi has always been very open and tolerant of that kinda stuff, or at least trend setting, even if it’s not necessarily… uh… “correct”.

The Forever War, for example, was majorly ahead of its time in showcasing LGBT (well, just LGB) pairings and a society openly accepting of them. It got a lot of stuff wrong, but for when it came out it was revolutionary.

[unreal pebble]

I've never actually read that. I should.

[steady bough]

You should!

It’s a great piece of military science fiction.

Very dated now, obviously, but really well thought out.

[unreal pebble]

Dated's fine, I mean, people still rip off power armor from 1959.

Or the ever persistent golem analogues.

[steady bough]

Mhm.

But yeah, I’m just mentioning it in the context of today it would never get written.

Which is a shame, I think. It was very blunt in a way I don’t think we can be, today.

That style of writing in general doesn’t really exist anymore.

[unreal pebble]

What, blunt and straightforward?

[steady bough]

Yeah.

[unreal pebble]

I think that it's actually still downright ubiquitous, it's just that nobody talks about it.

[steady bough]

It’s less accepted in the mainstream these days, I suppose.

Unless you’re established with a large following. But then that’s true of anything.

[proud fiber]

Yeah outside of that the only homie roommates are in the show.

Unless I'm wrong

[unreal pebble]

There's one couple from a pretty early short story, who both died in the same book.

And there's the one guy from one of the more recent short stories.

[dreamy stirrup]

https://www.ign.com/articles/skydance-to-take-over-paramount-in-8-billion-deal?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3UCLYWdSO-940IZV4mjx_jDTPEj6-c6TgSlKiioY9LEXvA37VIFpTYik8_aem_kkKqzuGUDVLsjHxa8JVCwg

We may get some kind of news soon in regards to a new season once this goes through next year

[wide zinc]

Wowsers. I wonder how that would affect star trek

[civic eagle]

Another reboot remake because of the copyrights.

[median sundial]

It's just a scifi show with a halo cloak

it failed to capture the epic that halo really is

[toxic warren]

Captured it well enough for me

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gleaming rune]

I'm just there to watch Chief slaughter aliens

[heavy tusk]

It's Halo themed

Fortunately not canon

I think it may just be the fact there's a lot of Halo Lore we know, and we're trying to apply it to the series when the series isn't canon

[elfin ember]

Wasn’t it a separate canon? Silver Timeline I think?

[heavy tusk]

It is

[bitter ginkgo]

Conveniently not named that though

[heavy tusk]

It is named that on Halopedia

[bitter ginkgo]

The general audience this show was supposed to attract isn’t even aware of Halopedia

[toxic warren]

The very first announcement of the show, it was mentioned that it was a different timeline and they've spoken about it loads in interviews and media shots

[misty pivot]

most halo fans aren't aware of halopedia or the wider lore

[median sundial]

i guess ur expectations aren't that high for halo

shame tbh

[toxic warren]

🙄

[timid mica]

Show bad

[wide zinc]

Only one scorpion tank was seen and no ODSTs. Hopefully they show up in S3 and we get whole episodes of battle

[runic prairie]

hey guys MashberChefde here

[river fulcrum]

Give this man an award

[gleaming rune]

No meaningless Quan side quests.

[mighty moat]

Agree

[hollow laurel]

season 3 when

[river fulcrum]

Now

[hollow laurel]

season 3 please

@modern shadow

[elfin ember]

Huh. I didn’t expect someone to actually be named paramount in the server

[hollow laurel]

its the official paramount account

[toxic warren]

It's not

Please don't tag random accounts

Any announcements about future seasons will come directly from whoever owns Paramount now, or via 343's social spaces / Halo Waypoint, so please stop spamming this question.

Ah, Skydance are in the running to take over

[wide zinc]

Rebooooot

[pine plover]

Eatboot

[hollow laurel]

season 3 when

before I die please

[toxic warren]

^

[upper apex]

welp
rip the show

[remote cairn]

https://x.com/THR/status/1814058339720118564

RIP

[obtuse minnow]

NOOO they can't!😭

[ancient willow]

Well well well

Looks like Jimmy Rings ain’t-

[obtuse minnow]

They literally Ended on a cliffhanger And they'll just... Leave it like this? When the best parts were about to happen?...

Why....😭🙏

[thick umbra]

Truly we will never cope

[toxic warren]

If it is indeed not continuing on Paramount, then they may be able to find a new place to show it

This will likely be due to Skydance acquiring Paramount

[obtuse minnow]

I had So many theories And expectations for season 3 i was So happy every day waiting for season 3 announcement just to find this out...

I Hope those haters are happy Now...🙄

[dreamy stirrup]

They are. I’ve already been tagged with them celebrating

No worries, Spartans, we will rise again

[obtuse minnow]

🥲

[native otter]

Until someone else picks it up!

S2 was good, S3 could be great if it ends up happening elsewhere.

[gritty bramble]

"According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, Xbox, Amblin TV, and 343 Industries will try to shop the series to other outlets."

In the article, itself.

[jovial sun]

So I just read the news. So it will probably be moved to a different platform then?

[gritty bramble]

I wasn't a fan of the show ngl but I would be down for another season with better writing.

[jovial sun]

Season 2 was on better footing definitely.

[dreamy stirrup]

No news has come from any of those parties yet.

[obtuse minnow]

I started my halo journey with this show... Then i played the games... I fell in love with both timelines... I loves the designs And Story of the show. Those easter Eggs And game concepts. Literally modern designs of covenant corvettes And Carriers, touching music... That nature... And all of this Is... Gone...

[jovial sun]

Not yet

[gritty bramble]

THR didn't say for certain, that's just what a source close to the trades said. It's up in the air for now I guess.

[native otter]

This is a cool thing to hear!

Which game did you end up trying first?

[obtuse minnow]

I'm literally sad And disappointed And i want to say things that i can't here...
Just out of hatred for those haters...😖

[obtuse minnow]

Reach. ||I almost cried when the Reach had same fate in the show||

[native otter]

Solid place to start

Have you since played all the campaigns?

[obtuse minnow]

All halo games in mcc, halo 5 And Infinite

[native otter]

Solid!

will you continue into the spin-offs?

[little anvil]

I'm not surprised honestly.
Paramounts been in the tube's for a while
They need to shop it to a better hosting company

[obtuse minnow]

I dont know.

[weary phoenix]

no way season 3 got canceled bro

it's so unbelievably over

[obtuse minnow]

Well... will there be an official statement in #halo-the-series-announcements?

[native otter]

If 343, paramount or MS makes one - yes I'm sure.

[obtuse minnow]

Everyone here saying about something on different platforms etc. But I want the 3rd season of THIS exact timeline... Not a new one... I want this...😖😭

[obtuse minnow]

Yes.

[toxic warren]

While you may not have enjoyed it, there are people who did and would like to see it continue

[tawdry kestrel]

probaby too expensive of a show to make for the 5 people who, for some reason, liked it

[toxic warren]

Let's keep it constructive please

[cedar lagoon]

At least John helped them, not napping on cryofridge

[toxic warren]

They don't need to do anything

[obtuse minnow]

😁

But why Are looking for the bad?

[tawdry kestrel]

On a positive note, the show from the other Xbox franchise (Fallout) got 17 Emmys nominations

[obtuse minnow]

Look on the good things...

[tawdry kestrel]

funny what happens when you make a good show

[obtuse minnow]

For example perfect game designs in live Action like Covenant corvette, assault carrier, onyx, armors, covenants, easter Eggs... And more

Maybe Becuase Its different timeline? Thats the problem you all Have...

You don't understand that this show Is different time line where things can go differently

[tawdry kestrel]

so nothing related to the story and characters?

So they cancelled the series. About bloody time.

I want an apology from all the ones who licked the boots of paramount attacking me over my opinions of that terrible show

[obtuse minnow]

Since Its a different timeline then Its kinda irelevant to discuss characters...

[obtuse minnow]

😂🤭

[toxic warren]

There has been no official announcement so far but if it was, then it was likely canceled due to the Skydance takeover

[native otter]

Kai and Vannak were awesome characters.

[tawdry kestrel]

so why make it a Halo show in the first place lmao?

[obtuse minnow]

Is there an article or something that Will explain this to me? Becuase i don't know Whats happening with Paramount 😄

[tawdry kestrel]

Totally not because its just terrible and im pretty sure didnt make nearly enough cash to justify more of it

[native otter]

a quick google will tell ya

[obtuse minnow]

What kind of question is that anyway...

[toxic warren]

https://ir.paramount.com/news-releases/news-release-details/skydance-media-and-paramount-global-sign-definitive-agreement

[obtuse minnow]

Okay 😄 thanks

[tawdry kestrel]

I recall someone pointing out the Fallout show got nominated for 16 emmies and paramount probably looked at that and wondered "what are we doing" lol

[native otter]

ok?

You said there weren't any good characters, and I pointed out 2.

[obtuse minnow]

Thank you

[toxic warren]

@tawdry kestrel if you're just here to trash on the show, just stop

[tawdry kestrel]

I like when Chief's guns bang the enemy, thats the Halo I want

[spring grotto]

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[tawdry kestrel]

I've spent probably over 30 mins typing out words explaining my thoughts. A little vaugness tonight I would imagine is acceptable

Even if they cancel it because of this Skydance thing, I sing Olé, Olé, Olé. I want a good quality show or none at all.

I expected the Fallout show to be just as bad and I was extremely happy to be proven wrong

[obtuse minnow]

Then go watch Fallout And dont trash talk on halo....

[tawdry kestrel]

I'm eager to watch it, quality TV ad movies these days are getting harder to come by. People should vote with their wallets more, it will coerce the industry to focus on quality of story instead of mass producing jargon

I agree with above, not the place to talk about the Fallout show, though let me point out if this thing with paramount is true this section of the discord probably wont serve a purpose for too much longer aha

there's still the unfortunate possibility of another streaming service picking Halo up

[obtuse minnow]

I don't have to tell you anything.

[tawdry kestrel]

A shame I can't react cos Exo hit the nail on the head there.

[obtuse minnow]

Thats what I meant.

[native otter]

Here's the great thing about media of all sorts.

Some people will like it and some won't - it's subjective!

[tawdry kestrel]

stcker did say "the show", so that still covers needless fruit throwing lol

if the terrible non Halo horse is truly about to be announced dead, don't beat it

Ah yes the ever present devils advocate, let no fairly made point alter their words, amen

[native otter]

internet is being strange today

that's no good.
And please turn off pings when replying 🙂

[tawdry kestrel]

It's probably the hardware celebrating at the idea it no longer has to air the show

I cant put screenshots so imma copy paste it from reddit

‘Halo’ Canceled at Paramount+ After Two Seasons
News
Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/halo.
Locked post. New comments cannot be posted. "

The post got 1.7k likes before the takedown 😆

[tawdry kestrel]

yeah I just saw that wtf, it had 500 comments

[spring grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572921337782337566/1211114454142681118/noping.png?ex=65ed053b&is=65da903b&hm=127c1f5a619a9cb041d895fc8b72e2582f18b58934fcc2c232dda28837a796a2&

[tawdry kestrel]

just reddit mods being reddit mods I guess

just a sample of the top comments, in order of most liked (i censored swears)

"They saw that the Fallout show got nominated for 16 emmies and said "what the f--- are we doing" "

"Start from scratch and faithfully follow the canon timeline. "

"I'll be T bagging in the corner if anyone wants to join"

yeah reddit mods are worse than discord ones

We might be prematurely celebrating though. I hope not but it's possible

hahaha I had to paste this comment from the post

" "We are extremely proud of this ambitious series"

You really shouldn't be "

[obtuse minnow]

Are you having a good time? You're just making a mess with that hate...

[tawdry kestrel]

yep it's pretty funny

[tawdry kestrel]

Yeah m8, having a blast!

first hint of good Halo news i nlike 10 years xD

[obtuse minnow]

Pretty annoying*

[toxic warren]

Time to take it elsewhere. It's fine to dislike like the show, but the constant negativity and non-constructive comments are not needed here.
You can be negative while still being constructive. If you can't, it's best that you don't

[tawdry kestrel]

We had our fun I knew it was being watched carefully 😆 👍

sure lol

probably best to rename the description of the channel to "good things" instead of "all things"

[obtuse minnow]

Well with the mess here, there was nothing to do but watch it...

[granite fox]

There's no way to be constructive about something that wasn't good from the start. 343i had one job with this show and stumbled over itself repeatedly

[native otter]

If you aren't sure how to be constructive about something that you don't like, that sounds more like an issue for you to tackle yourself.

If you don't see the @ on the reply, it's off 🙂

[granite fox]

Oh, I know my reasons for disliking the show. Pretty sure everyone has voiced their constructive criticisms

[granite fox]

But it seems like stickr considers any negativity towards the show "non-construxtive"

[obtuse minnow]

All the hate that's been going on here today has been rather personal...

[native otter]

being only negative without offering thoughtful alternatives, is most certainly non-constructive 😉

[tawdry kestrel]

you're not being constructive either

[native otter]

anyhow.

I really thought the shows visuals were one of the strongest points.
S2 continued that nicely.
I would've loved to see how environments on the ring look in S3

[junior bramble]

Right move!! Now start over and follow the perfect script, the books!

[obtuse minnow]

I like the show for reasons you'll never understand... So I don't have anything constructive to say to you...

I don't think So...😄

[native otter]

for a sci-fi show, I think visuals are actually pretty important, but that's just me.

[obtuse minnow]

The look of the show.

[native otter]

and to their credit, I think S2 built a lot on fan feedback and got even better.
S3 was shaping up to have some great potential!

[hexed plover]

LMAOOO

[native otter]

just a tip, you know you can also edit messages in discord, yeah?

ok, some people genuinely don't know

[obtuse minnow]

The SEASON 3 ||could Have been like the halo CE And halo 2 in one... And they just canceled it...||

[native otter]

it may still come in some form!

not dissing!
I just like to help

[obtuse minnow]

😂that guys messages still disappearing... I can't.

[idle pawn]

Show is likely to be shopped either Amazon or Netflix, it literally only got cancelled because Paramount is heavily cost cutting after thier sale/merger debacle.

[native otter]

you're good 🙂

[ebon eagle]

They can’t hurt us anymore

[native basalt]

Hi

[obtuse minnow]

👋

[native otter]

I think a lot of these streaming services don't deserve our continuous, uninterrupted subcriptions.
There is no incentive to stay subscribed continuously.

Just grab 1 month sub and binge a bunch of things, then switch next month to a different one.
Rinse and repeat each month over like 6 services and you get to see a LOT of content.

[native basalt]

🙂

[tawdry kestrel]

Am I valid?

ODST

What if I said they kicked me out their squad

Yep…

My plan is to become a spartan and fight master chief

[toxic warren]

Let's keep on topic please

[tawdry kestrel]

Oh.

[obtuse minnow]

I guess that the hate wave Is at least over😄

[bitter ginkgo]

Almost makes you wonder about the season 2 that never was with John dead and Cortana using his corpse while furthering the love story with Makee

[native otter]

It does not make me wonder about that at all

[amber hedge]

I have mixed feelings about the cancellation. I remember the excitement watching the first episode and loving seeing more live action Halo content, but the departure from canon was upsetting. When I get into a universe, I will try to consume all the content in the universe. Halo, Star Wars, Star Trek, Harry Potter, and they all have so much canon content. But watching the show felt more like trying to get into a new universe. Season 2 felt like it was starting to get back to familiar territory, though still with glaring differences that feel like a slap in the face after reading the novels. I was hopeful that season 3 would be able to simplify things and again get closer the the canon timeline, but at the same time, the show will never be able to do some things from the canon, because the first 2 seasons changed so much of the backstory.
If they don’t want to make a show that follows the games, I would have loved to see a live action adaptation of Contact Harvest or The Fall of Reach.

[amber hedge]

Imagining a world where they didn’t essentially retcon the season 1 finale 💀

[green frigate]

wont move forward on the service....not coping or anything because although i did like the second season more, theres always that chance it could get picked up by another service

and they are shopping it apparently

[obtuse minnow]

Inside me I really feel a sense of sadness and pain, And disappointment that I won't see the continuation of the story...

[amber hedge]

Yeah I know, hard to know what would change and what would stay if they can get picked up by another service

[obtuse minnow]

And everytime I think of that show. I just see || kai on the corvettes bridge with John..||

[obtuse minnow]

I'm aftaid that other services would ruin it...

[bitter ginkgo]

It’s a hard sell, you wouldn’t know if actors coming back, paramount probably selling off set pieces

[amber hedge]

I think I would trust Amazon to do it justice, though it depends on the creative team as well

[obtuse minnow]

😭

Honestly, just the thought of seeing the master chief's costume from the set for example on ebay crushes me...

Breaks my heart

[amber hedge]

As much as I want the show to wrap things up nicely, I think I’d rather see a canon prequel series or something

[obtuse minnow]

I just want a continuation of this... That's all I want...

[stark mango]

Rip

[frozen moth]

My reaction on the halo tv show getting cancelled https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[amber hedge]

On the one hand, a different service might not want to touch an existing (and potentially tainted) series, and at the same time, they might not want the brand confusion of making a new Halo series so soon.

[obtuse minnow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179510217537491055/1263656036678631446/IMG_20240719_023702.jpg?ex=669b06e4&is=6699b564&hm=30f7ef7fb1b8c4cb4146871d7dce84a07b7b634ce4d985af493b6640f6aa5c34& ""at least not on Paramount+""
There Is still HOPE!🥹

[wide zinc]

Cancelled?????????

[obtuse minnow]

Unfortunetly yes....😖

[sterile spruce]

Not my precious master cheeks

[civic eagle]

i was hoping for 10 seasons. 20 episodes each.

[lavish cedar]

My take is that you remove Kwan, remove Makee, maybe keep John's helmet (... and armor) on for a while, and boom you've got a perfectly fine adaptation. The rest is stylistic stuff that people don't like because it's different, and not because it's bad, I think. I'm actually really interested in seeing characters and plot-points shuffled around to create a different story, I think the creativity that goes into that is so much more interesting than just coloring by-the-numbers to create Halo: The Videogame: The TV show.

People are too obsessed with the idea of lore and existing canon, it holds back creative storytelling. In the past, you didn't even need the "so-and-so timeline" classification - because people just didn't see multimedia projects as this big puzzle of pieces that have to fit together, you didn't need to be told it was a different continuity. You just knew a show was an isolated product, and people were happy to see a different take - if it was good, anyway.

EDIT:
Star Wars is a big example. Before Disney, the extended universe gave them a chance to do a bunch of different stuff. The Force Unleashed went way out of its way to have a different universe, Republic Commando depicted Star Wars very differently, and both of those takes were cool and well-liked even though they were different and nearly impossible to fit with the movies' continuity. People enjoyed them as isolated works.

Now, though, Disney insists everything has to fit together in both lore and style. If we get a new game set during the Clone Wars, it'll look like the movies, but with Clone Wars designs thrown in - and not be a new depiction of it that strengthens the story's themes. It's so bland and soulless.

[obtuse minnow]

Halo has been cancelled by Paramount+.
Season 2, now the show's final season on the streamer, concluded in March 2024.
Producers are shopping the show around, hoping to find it a new home.

[frozen moth]

look can I be honest I never cared about the halo tv show

[wide zinc]

No makee

Makee is the reason John 117 lost his V card

[frozen moth]

but it make sense why paramount is canceleing all there stuff

[lavish cedar]

I know 😢 Gone is an ace icon

[limber roost]

Thank god

[sharp pelican]

🎊🎊🎊🎊

puffin halo tv show pack

[obtuse minnow]

I wouldnt be so happy if i were you.😏
Producers are shopping the show around, hoping to find it a new home.
😂🫵

[sharp pelican]

that’ll work out xd

[obtuse minnow]

So... I Guess... Enjoy your... Good time

[limber roost]

They can find a different game to made their trash writing about in their alternative universe

[wide zinc]

APPLE TV APPLE TV APPLE TV

[tawdry kestrel]

Heard from friends and came here to see if it was real, god bless

[fluid swift]

I hope that Microsoft sticks with amazon because Fallout was amazing and felt like it had a good budget behind it, which I can’t say that the halo show felt like it had the best funding all the time

[tawdry kestrel]

So I just read an article that the Halo TV show on Paramount has been canceled.

Kinda saw that happening given they decided to write some weird twisted love story instead of sticking tona solid story of what the in game lore already gave

[median sundial]

LOL LETS GOOOOO

Time for the series to be given to someone who cares about Halo, or outright cancel it for good. Halo doesn't need any more embarrassments.

[granite fox]

Oh, and find people who know something about the universe

[median sundial]

That's a big thing!

I don't think they'll reboot the series, it would literally be a waste of money.

[fluid swift]

Microsoft had had bigger waste ngl

[median sundial]

I think they could essentially reboot the series from the start of Halo CE, and completely forget what came before it.

Or pull the, "it was all a dream" type stuff LOL

[misty pivot]

so basically steer far away from the fanbase

[ocean island]

“When the execs learn of this. They will have your head.”

“When they learn? laughs Fool. They ordered me to do it.”

[wide zinc]

Apple TV better

Amazon sucks kinda

[plucky coyote]

Halo has major potential it just needs fleshed out characters that every day people can connect with. Halo from paramount unfortunately failed with this and then killed mostly everyone that was cared about off...

[scarlet kindle]

Halo show flops, ah gamers don't want a Halo show

[trim basalt]

https://x.com/IGN/status/1814103131396931836?t=G_n5mmPq4fVGixf6BY35hw&s=19

[trim basalt]

W for the gamers

I hope they make the series close to the game story

[scarlet kindle]

Same with Acolyte will get a season 2 flop, they are butchering beloved stories

[trim basalt]

And no more room for race swaping for the sake of fake and force representation

[wide zinc]

I hope they race swap John 117 just to piss you off

[misty pivot]

oh you're one of those "people"

[storm vessel]

I hope the next iteration takes ten years so I can take my time to get to Hollywood and write this thing myself

[crude kelp]

You are a disappointment

[meager crane]

rip halo tv series 2022-24

[limber roost]

To be completely fair

There was no reason to when that dude who played Keyes would've made an amazing Johnson

And we need that strong iconic black male that doesn't take bs

[blissful tendon]

I would have liked them to do one last season to just finish the plot, nothing more disrespectful than to cancel something on a big cliffhanger but I guess a show that didn’t really care to begin with would end like that

[toxic warren]

They absolutely did care about what they were doing, so let's not with that please

The cancellation was more than likely due to being acquired by Skydance

[vagrant igloo]

We're free!

[limber roost]

would it even change anything

like what questions does anyone have that gnaws at them with curiosity? this shows got none of it. yeah the flood was exciting but it's just the last of us at that point. no identity

like it's really really bad when you got both side of the halo community that loves/hates 343 all joined together and praised that it got cancelled

[dense jewel]

I thought the show was weak, but let’s not pretend like that had anything to do with it

[prime niche]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[trim basalt]

Sunk cost fallacy

[lone breach]

So the show could still continue ? They could go to Netflix prime Disney etc ?

[obtuse minnow]

Thats the plan i Guess yeah..

[lone breach]

So when will we find out if it is 10000% cancelled or if it will continue

[toxic warren]

As soon as someone makes an official announcement on it

Could be any time

[plucky coyote]

Well they did have intentions to do a third season, the cancellation seemed out of their control

[trim basalt]

could but they choose the instant way

[trim basalt]

yes and johnson too

[trim basalt]

yes it does, they choose the instant way, it is better if they just introduce new character like kwan.

if they stick to the original game story it will be better. halo game is ahead of its era, they make middle east/africa as a forefront of earth space defence in kairo station, and they choose new mombasa as the main target of alien invasion to break the hollywood logic that alien only invade america, and make africa as a forefront of human advancement on earth instead of USA

and off course the class struggle between species in the covenant and their rebellion

[wide zinc]

Netflix should stay out of it

I want Apple TV or Amazon

[blissful tendon]

I can’t see Apple picking it up, they have very strict control over their content and ms is their competitor

[obtuse minnow]

If the show continued.. you would literally get halo game season...

The halo finale ||Is the start of halo CE in Their way...||

I had So many expectations... Like ||Miranda running to the Forerunner city And then being saved by kai, mullins And perez, meanwhile John Is chasing makee on the ring then accidentally releasing the flood on the ring And also conversation with the gravemind, pillar of autumn would be shot Down in the rings atmosphere, Soren going to ONI base on earth with ackerson to explain what happened on onyx, Soren would become shows johnson etc... And season 4 would be on the ark And It would end the whole shows Story...||

[tawdry kestrel]

Is it true it got cancelled

[scarlet kindle]

yes

[tawdry kestrel]

Oh thank god

I honestly could not get past the first episode

It honestly felt like a really bad roleplay that you would find on Wattpad with a bunch of Mary Sue characters in the Halo universe and it was poorly written and you had no idea what was going on

[scarlet kindle]

Feels like they were telling a completely other story with their writing, make a spin off show if you want to change things that much. Not with already established characters we know

I watched the entire first season to "give it a try" oh boy

and to think people who never played the games, this is their first look into Halo

The Fallout show is a perfect example of sticking to the games and having a successful show

exactly it tells another story in the fallout universe

it doesnt just follow what we already played in the games

but it does it tastefully and you can appreciate the details and references having already played the games

That is the main thing that bothers me about the show. Someone who never heard about Halo before, after watching the show this is what they think its about now

The Fallout show was like a bridge between gamers and people who never played fallout before. The Halo show was something embarrassing to talk about with friends who never played the games

[obtuse minnow]

oh...GOD! can yall finally stop?.. you dont like the show we get it... but this not a place for it

[tawdry kestrel]

I didn't even finish watching the first episode and I honestly don't watch TV or care for any TV

[obtuse minnow]

this channel is here to talk about the show, not for trash talking about it

[tawdry kestrel]

For my only issue for the TV show was it couldn't grasp my attention so I essentially know nothing about the show

[scarlet kindle]

its alright we can finally stop now that the show no longer exists

[obtuse minnow]

it exist and it always will... deal with it...

its just a matter of time until producents find a new station where the ycan make season 3...

[scarlet kindle]

yes of course they will find a new one with the great story telling and massive budget

[obtuse minnow]

and if not... ill just have to deal with a fact... that i will not see the continuation of this series

[scarlet kindle]

Paramount maybe took losses in hopes that the show would bring subscribers to their streaming service

[obtuse minnow]

i would like to a hear an opinion on this.. this how i would to the 3rd season...

[scarlet kindle]

If Disney green lit season 2 of Acolyte maybe Halo has a future there

They both enjoy changing the storyline of established franchises

[obtuse minnow]

but acolyte is canon... halo show is different universe

/ timeline

[scarlet kindle]

Acolyte didnt even get the canon right

[obtuse minnow]

for the show did its purpose.. it made me love that world... game world and show world too...

[obtuse minnow]

i didnt enjoy the acolyte too... for its like... 4/10... but halo season 1 is for mě 6, 7/10 and season 2 8/10

i really love that show.. it show me something that made its place in my heart

[scarlet kindle]

I watched every episode of Acolyte with my best friend who loves Star Wars more than me and he was so dissapointed lol

[obtuse minnow]

yeah i have watched every star wars... but this.. was... only episode 5 was good..but this doesnt belong here..

[scarlet kindle]

Action scene were really good but the writing sheesh

The best episode was mostly action scenes with minimal talking

I watched season 1 of the Halo show, couldn't bring myself to continue season 2. I went into season 1 with an open mind that it was doing its own thing

[obtuse minnow]

yes but for example halo show for me had really good looking designs... ships, weapons, armors, covenants had really accurate look too, the music was TOP, and season was really good it all I wanted

[scarlet kindle]

some scenes were so bad that were supposed to be serious I was trying not to laugh

There's one scene where Kwan is riding a 4 wheeler or something and it just instantly stops with no deacceleration it looks so off

[obtuse minnow]

I have few problems with the show too... but it still doesnt ruin that good feeling i have when i watch it

[bitter ginkgo]

It’s all Joever

[ocean island]

The show to me is an example of the abuse of franchise notability. The showrunners and writers clearly wanted to exploit the appeal of the franchise to make a whole new reinterpretation of Halo and when it failed they were bitter over it and refused to improve

[scarlet kindle]

We should host a Halo show marathon watch party then pour one out

[ocean island]

It was basically high budget fanfiction but not good. I wouldn't even want to call it that since fanfiction implied passion and respect for the IP

[bitter ginkgo]

True

[scarlet kindle]

The thing is they have the budget and funding to do anything in the Halo universe and this is the outcome lol

[ocean island]

https://youtu.be/SyOAdrxlPVs?si=y2Z7-dWd-x_yZrfI

[scarlet kindle]

If you have 100m+ budget to make a Halo project with all thats available in Halo

[ocean island]

We could've had it all 😔

[scarlet kindle]

Its like the creators of the show never grew up with Halo and used the franchise to further their career

Just another project under their belt

[obtuse minnow]

i think that I was directing season 3 i would MAYBE... make that it would make haters like it too... but i dont know..🤷

[scarlet kindle]

Broader audience

[obtuse minnow]

?

[scarlet kindle]

It was designed for another audience outside of the fanbase already

[obtuse minnow]

oh yeah sorry my english is not that good 😄

[scarlet kindle]

np, your english is actually really good

[obtuse minnow]

i would do this with season 3 and 4.. with more action, leaving john with helmet on more often etc...

of course it would be more detailed this is just an idea

[scarlet kindle]

We already have an example of a helmet character with Mandalorian

[obtuse minnow]

i know.

[scarlet kindle]

The character was more interesting with the helmet and if you take it off it has something impactful to the story telling

[obtuse minnow]

and also.. i would ||explain makees survival||

well...

[obtuse minnow]

@tawdry kestrel read this and... tell me if thats fine

[scarlet kindle]

The most hype the season 1 of the halo show got was because master chief has no helmet instead of the storytelling thats when you know you're doing it wrong

thats all the press they got online

No chief is a multilayered emotional character with random rage moments and impulsive behavior

We just did the reverse of the game and are clever

[trim basalt]

Nah it's sunk cost fallacy, better let it sunk

[scarlet kindle]

Don't board a sinking ship

[trim basalt]

Better make a remake that resembles the game story with better casting and writing

[bitter ginkgo]

If they didn’t spend 2 seasons with Jimmy Rings undressing or unconscious it’d be a much easier sell. Cool green guy killing a bunch of aliens on Halo while exploring the installation’s secrets. That isn’t what they are selling and made it much harder of a sell than it should be

[scarlet kindle]

I feel like the show damaged any other streaming service from giving Halo a chance

It will be awhile until we see any other big budget Halo project

Wake me when you need me

back to a slumber he goes

||kind of ironic the season 2 ends with 343 guilty spark||

[obtuse minnow]

Casting was fine...

[wide zinc]

Halo Legends s2

[warm pine]

The wicked witch is dead, I'm celebrating. Get outta here with this Master Cheeks garbage.

[wide zinc]

Yeah except one episode killed two Spartan IIs for no good reason

Yeah

And Cal 141 or something as well. Rip

[warm pine]

Cal casually lifting O'Brien is still the funniest

[hollow laurel]

season 3 please before i die

zits been years

[toxic warren]

It's been 4 months

[hollow laurel]

time is reletive

[misty pivot]

too bad Frank O'Connor isn't with the studio anymore

[plucky coyote]

ppl wanted the old guard gone, they got what they wanted

[misty pivot]

people are not intelligent, but hey, revealed preferences and all. No more Halo Legends!

[bitter ginkgo]

Frank would have endorsed the show same as all the management. Nothing would of changed

[scarlet kindle]

Old guard was gone far too late the damage was done

now its a rebuilding process that shouldve been done years ago

[bitter ginkgo]

I wouldn’t even call them the old guard, they are the inherited guard

[scarlet kindle]

falling upwards guard

[storm vessel]

I’m glad someone else sees that. There’s still a lot of vitriol for 343 despite the major change in management like it’s really just a name now

So anyway how would you feel to FOUR seasons of build up to the reveal of the ring lol. To then have the next 3 seasons of it being halo 1, 2, and 3. Story basically ending in season 7 our favorite number

[scarlet kindle]

idk if the storytelling/writing could hold up for four seasons until the ring

I have seen shows with only 1 season but the story telling made it feel like multiple seasons

[storm vessel]

With all these books and original content I think we have enough for 50 seasons

I exaggerate of course but I think there’s enough there especially since I want original stories as well

[scarlet kindle]

there is endless material to work off of for sure

[misty pivot]

Frank was the guy who gave us Legends lol

[bitter ginkgo]

That’s best case scenario and starting from a blank slate. You don’t even have Jimmy discovering the flood on Halo. It’s been discovered on Onyx, Halsey in cryo, Soren’s son kidnapped story that everyone seems very invested in. It’s a mess on top of the general sentiment its cheeks.

[scarlet kindle]

I guess you can say its a master at being cheeks

so many plot points when you have a main story to tell just to fill the scenes

[radiant dawn]

So, what's the general opinion on the series being cancelled?

[toxic warren]

I'm sad, I really enjoyed it. Really hoping it find a new home

[cedar lagoon]

It was a really good show
Sadly but it cancelled

[radiant dawn]

Me too. It started getting good in the last episode. The fight between Master Chief & the Arbiter was great 😃 They left us on a cliffhanger and now we're stuck with that. The final of season 2 always felt like the penultimate one, like one episode was missing after that😮‍💨 I was really intrigued for season 3, hoping they get it out fast

[toxic warren]

Had 2 guys fitting a carpet in our nursery today, one of them was a Halo fan - said he'd been playing since Halo 3. Was surprised when he mentioned the TV show, he enjoyed it too

[radiant dawn]

It took them a bit too long to get to the actual story if the games, I suppose.

But, there's another element that probably plays a huge role here: Paramount setting itself up for the merger with Skydance. On a corporate level, they try to clean house before that, cancel everything that might not look profitable in their books to pretend the highest value and rig their finances short term a bit so other companies would buy them for a higher price. WB did that a lot the last years and Paramount is doing the same now. The Halo series fell unfortunately victim to that. I'm taking just an educated guess here but I'm very confident in saying that played a bigger part in the unfortunate cancellation😮‍💨

[storm vessel]

The only twinge of sadness that I feel for the cancelation is because my dad really liked it. other than that I am relieved that it's cancelled.

But at the same time I feel a great amount of anxiety cause I kept telling myself that when the show get's cancelled I would do anything in my power to be it's showrunner despite not having any experience in it. I feel like that count down has begun lol

[radiant dawn]

Fair enough 🙂

[storm vessel]

I straight up minored in creative writing because I disliked the show that much.

[idle pawn]

Only getting cancelled at Paramount because of their merger & extreme budget cut spending, it's highly likely gonna get picked up by other streaming services like Netflix.

[cursive falcon]

the one thing that always baffled me with this show was how thoroughly developed the source material was. why did they just throw it all away for the silver timeline?

if they stayed close to the books/games it would've been a slam dunk

the series thus far has been a slam dunk in terms of streams but it just doesn't feel like halo

[scarlet kindle]

Because they didnt look at the games, they wanted to do their own thing great idea btw

[cursive falcon]

then don't call it halo, i don't get it

[scarlet kindle]

the name sells

no one would watch generic sci fi show number 117

[cursive falcon]

is that what halo is now?

just a name and a list of characters?

[bitter ginkgo]

To be fair in the eyes of 343 character assassination is story telling

[scarlet kindle]

You already played the game wait until you see our vision for the Halo universe!

[cursive falcon]

there are a lot of people i know that would love the story of halo but refuse to pick up a controller

[scarlet kindle]

They had Fallout and The Last of Us follow similar to the games as an idea on what to follow but still come out with this

[cursive falcon]

i absolutely adore tlou, it's so faithful to the game and honestly in some spots surpass the source material

that's what id personally want a halo tv adaptation to be

[scarlet kindle]

Thats what I was expecting for the first season instead we got some weird storyline

They had the blueprint from the games

[obtuse minnow]

https://youtu.be/iA_z2rzGdi8?si=w3FlQWaflJuXvwgC Instalation00... He didn't disappoint again, he said it very nicely.

[toxic warren]

They did look at the games

[scarlet kindle]

and decided to go with a completely different storyline?

[toxic warren]

Yes

Explained here

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/silver-debrief-a-new-beginning

[scarlet kindle]

I can commend the ambition but not the execution

They went the MCU route with another universe to change the storyline from the original games

[abstract wing]

Sad to see the show is practically on hold.. I'm definitely going to watch it on whichever platform it comes to next though

[scarlet kindle]

You have a blueprint of a storyline that is iconic already from the games and decide your vision is better for the first Halo TV show ever

[misty pivot]

neutral. I wasn't big on the show but i think it had good parts, but in my view the good didn't outweigh the negatives

[misty pivot]

miranda keys in H3, after getting a turbo lobotomy: to war rams armed dropship into a control tower with 0 backup

[scarlet kindle]

Badass way to die

[misty pivot]

dumb way to die for cheap drama

[scarlet kindle]

I guess but it could be worse

[misty pivot]

I'm just saying rope company wasn't unfamiliar with writing characters into idiots

[scarlet kindle]

Better than master chief using a coin to decide what to do

[misty pivot]

or treating the lore with contempt

[scarlet kindle]

miranda keys on the show however is a genius who brings a contaminated ancient artifact

I prefer the moron running into battle

[wind kettle]

i have mixed feelings about the "cancellation" of the TV Show, i didn't think it was good since there were many infamous ideas the show had that aren't good and are laughable

but when season 2 dropped it seemed that they were at least fixing the mistakes and it was starting to become an actually good show

and season 3 could have been great if they went in the same direction, or a better one

[tribal junco]

If someone else takes the series, they should do a re-edition of the first season to eliminate the cringe and expand upon its strenghts

Then take the season 3 to develop based more on line with the events from the games

Bast majority isn't uncomfortable with the series for telling things different as such, but mainlt for being cringe with many takes and plot holes

If u ask me, it's nothing a proper re-edition wouldn't fix

[limber roost]

probably because the showrunners dropped halo right before it primiered and they still ran the show with their creativity

very epic, i needed to know more about kwan and her trash story and more mister cheeks

[scarlet kindle]

The comedy music as the biologist is walking around spreading it is top tier, after she knows she touched it and refuses to admit it

[wind kettle]

the showrunners of the first season dropped out in 2023 i think

[limber roost]

yeah and the show still continued with their plans

[wind kettle]

but i do agree they had awful ideas

[limber roost]

s2 had different runners and writers and that's why s2 had some similarity to what we know

[blissful tendon]

They should just reveal half way through that the tv show is actually a tv show in universe and it’s just propaganda by oni which is why they don’t care about what actually happened then move on from there

[median sundial]

Woohooo!

[scarlet kindle]

A parody recreation of history by ONI

[boreal pendant]

Die vermin die, glad it’s gone

When the great journey begins, the heresy brought about by paramount will stay their feet

[misty pivot]

god this community is cringe

[storm vessel]

Honest question. What is the theme of the show?

[quasi river]

I think the problem was the first season that too much damage for the rest

[wicked token]

Yeah that first season wasn't good. Then the second they tried to fix but just too much change to fix it. Like trying to use a band-aid for a wound

[wide zinc]

Nah 2nd season doubled down on Kwan Ha and Rubble for no reason.

Nobody liked those plotlines. It literally destroyed any hope I had for future seasons

[toxic warren]

I liked Kwans journey, I'm sure others did too

[obtuse minnow]

To be honest I hated kwan in the first season a was kidna mad john didnt execute her in the first episode when he was ordered to, but in season 2 she was much better... and I really enjoyed that part ||in that forerunner cave and then city etc.||

I'm glad that I have at least as a memory in halo infinite silver team logo and on weapons and armour keystone logo and keystone charm on all weapons 😄

in the show we saw airborne flood and also infection form... it came from the mans mouth and also I have a concept art of that infection form that we saw in the show and its really accurate. I can send to you in the DMS if you want.. i dont want to send it here because its disqustig and some could feel dizzy...

[jaunty zenith]

wait is the show canceled?

cmoon

hope so

i mean the story was horrendous but it was atleast good to see hamster chief in a life action instead of games

i know there is an other movie with master chief in it (cant remember the name)

[civic eagle]

he means the chinese action movie that ripped off master chief

https://x.com/ZhugeEX/status/1407642814180171779

😂

[toxic warren]

If you really don't like it, don't pay any attention to it. It's fair to be negative about it if you can be constructive, but just constantly hating and trashing on it is of no benefit to anyone. We can do without it here

[limber roost]

I say let em have it

Maybe then it'll show 343 that halo was already made for a broader audience. Everyone knows what halo is

[obtuse minnow]

what in the ring is that

[pulsar pumice]

No. I did not

[bitter ginkgo]

What journey? She just becomes OP

[obtuse minnow]

its kinda sad that when season 2 ended almost noone said the thing and enjoyed it.. and now when the show is cancelled everyone are here and only trash talking on it...🙄

[bitter ginkgo]

Give her drain touch and spirit bomb and you could add Kwan to Fortnite

[wraith shell]

Another streaming service definitely needs to pick the show back up and continue it. I need a season 3.

[scarlet kindle]

The show is an insult to the intelligence of the viewer, lets make the biologist who has no business being employed do everything she was trained her entire life to not do when infected. She knowingly hides the fact that she touched an object ungloved that is covered in spores. Walk around infecting everyone just because the plot point required a reason for everyone to get infected

[abstract yarrow]

I enjoyed the show because it's... Halo.. we got something. I'd rather have something than nothing. I know that's frowned upon, but that's just how I feel. Yeah, it was disapointing. Maybe someone out there will understand what I mean.

[scarlet kindle]

I can appreciate the fact that they tried making a Halo show but the execution, idk how some of the ideas got all the way to the tv screen

[obtuse minnow]

If you Watched season 2 you can see that the finale ||is similar to the start of halo CE||

Season 1 was before the fall of reach...
Season 2 ||was the fall of reach.||
Season 3 ||was meant to be like halo CE...||

[scarlet kindle]

So they are following similar paths to the games but going completely different paths to reach there

[abstract yarrow]

Agreed.

[obtuse minnow]

Yes... They're telling that Story in Their own way.

[scarlet kindle]

And the game's paths had more sense/structure in the logic reaching those conclusions than the show

[abstract yarrow]

and they never even played the games or read the books.

[obtuse minnow]

Is that they know the lore... They're just telling us that Story little differently...

[misty pivot]

this is false

[obtuse minnow]

They PLAYED the games...🙄

[abstract yarrow]

is it?

[misty pivot]

yes

[scarlet kindle]

Can I see their xbox profile to confirm

[abstract yarrow]

I guess i heard wrong, I apologize.

[misty pivot]

they did tho

[obtuse minnow]

Yes

[scarlet kindle]

Idk whats worse, they played the games and completely went a different direction with the show. Or they didnt play the game and went a completely different direction with the show

[misty pivot]

bungo wanted a blank slate but still gave him a character, wanting to have their cake and eat it. par for the course i suppose

[bitter ginkgo]

There’s more senseless beating of children scenes than warthog scenes

[abstract yarrow]

they wrote the script 253 times before choosing that script.

[scarlet kindle]

maybe the 254th time wouldve been the charm

[misty pivot]

like just because bungalow gave Steve Downes a single A4 sheet of printer paper worth of script doesn't mean he's a blank slate

[abstract yarrow]

Fax.

[misty pivot]

do you have a source

[abstract yarrow]

I did have a source, but it's been a long time since i read where I seen that. but it's a reliable one. i am not saying random things for no reason. i love halo too much for BS, you know?

[misty pivot]

and yet #halo-the-series-chat message

[scarlet kindle]

anyone from any background can look at chief and be like "thats me" lets give him a face and completely change the story

[abstract yarrow]

and yet what?

[obtuse minnow]

Becuase He took off his chip...🤦 Think about a little before you start complaining

[abstract yarrow]

Thats one thing I hated. Especially in the first spisode, but! do you know why they did it?

[wraith shell]

I mean it makes just as much sense as ancient humans that were far more advanced injecting an unknown alien dust into pets to make them more adorable.

[misty pivot]

boo hoo, he's helmetless in mainline canon too at times

[obtuse minnow]

Different timeline, different look... We still dont know how He looks like in the games so 🤷🏻 i dont see the problem...

[misty pivot]

seems clear to me

[scarlet kindle]

gotcha we are so clever we have better story telling than multi million dollars worth of games

[abstract yarrow]

I am not following sir.

Oh, becuase its been a year since I read it.

[misty pivot]

you're willing to buy bs when it confirms your priors

[abstract yarrow]

If people want to get mad, call me a liar, then go for it. I'm not here to argue.

[obtuse minnow]

And how would you act if you found out that your parents thought your dead, And UNSC that you were killing for were lying to you?

Different timeline!!!

[abstract yarrow]

Oh! Mint Blitz now I remember. I think it was in his video, he talked about it. Or Experia. One of them.

[scarlet kindle]

I watch an episode of the halo show for my daily dose of cringe

[obtuse minnow]

Sonic Is not like in the games too... And noone said anything

[bitter ginkgo]

They didn’t name it Halo into the Silververse

[scarlet kindle]

The crazy part is not like the show was an indie project it was what 100m+ budget

[misty pivot]

mint blitz is the opposite of reliable, he just vomits out whatever gets clicks

[obtuse minnow]

Are there other humans in the games like tom? No...

[abstract yarrow]

The Chiefs face was shown so much because the actor wanted it that way. Most actors are like that.

[misty pivot]

do you have a source

[abstract yarrow]

I think everyone wants to deny and hate everything said. So whatver you say.

[obtuse minnow]

Ok. No need to capslock here...

[misty pivot]

i'm happy to hate a halotuber who does nothing but clickbait garbage, yes

[abstract yarrow]

Sonic was human too.

[obtuse minnow]

I said other humans...

[abstract yarrow]

Who's reliable then?

[bitter ginkgo]

The act man obviously

[obtuse minnow]

Just to say that nothing Is meant EXACLY like in the games...

Sonic movie Is in different timeline too... They're telling Is different Story too...

All your complains Are really irelevant...

[misty pivot]

first party sources. Or HaloCanon or Installation00

[obtuse minnow]

Instalation00

[scarlet kindle]

Who

[misty pivot]

ew

[abstract yarrow]

I just don't think people are satisfied with anything. Lol.

[obtuse minnow]

Instalation00 Is a youtuber who Is talking about the lore of the games, of the show etc.

[misty pivot]

literally just listed 2 halotubers. Ascend Hyperion is also good

[abstract yarrow]

and im going to check them out.

[scarlet kindle]

I usually watch a couple of youtubers on the same topic and you get an idea on whats what

[abstract yarrow]

and an idea on whos who

[scarlet kindle]

If someone is terribly biased I usually avoid rewatching their channel

[pine forge]

RIP JORGE 😞

Shhh don't say anything more